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WE ALL COME TO WEST COVINA CITY COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL TODAY IS OCTOBER SEVEN, OCTOBER 20TH.
AND WHY NOW IS SEVEN OH TWO AND HOUR MEATY IN OLDER AND TONIGHT THEY IN VOCATION WOULD BE LED BY A PESTA MASON, A KUBO PHI E EMMANUEL.
FIRST LUCEL IN CHURCH FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF LEGION LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHUMAKER.
ALL RIGHT, PLEASE HAVE A SEAT PLEASE.
AND AZIZ NCD CLUB ROLL CALL PLEASE.
AND EVENING COUNCILMAN CASTELLANOS, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOEMAKER HERE.
TONY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING WE PULL OFF ON CLOSED SESSION? NOTHING.
[November 3, 2020 Election Presentation]
TO THE PRESENTATION? UH, TO NY IS A COUNTY STAFF HERE.WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE TIME TONIGHT FOR HOT FOR THE ELECTION, HOW TO VOTE.
AND YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED YOUR BALLOT, HOW'S YOUR, YOU DO YOU SEE? BUT OTHER PEOPLE CALLING ME THE WHITE GUARD, BUT THE HUSBAND HASN'T RECEIVED IT.
SO I SAY, OKAY, MAYBE YOU CAN GO TO THE COUNTRY DONE ONLINE TO REQUEST, OR YOU CAN BRING YOU A SAMPLE BALLOT AND GO TO THE PRECINCT AND TO GET YOUR BALLOT AND VOTE IN PERSON.
SO ANYWAY, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IS REALLY CONFUSED.
WHAT SHOULD WE DO? AND NOVEMBER 3RD, OKAY.
IF YOU'RE A CITIZEN, PLEASE VOTE.
WHEN, HOW LATE TO REGISTER TO BE A VULTURE.
AND BECAUSE NOVEMBER 3RD, THIS ELECTION IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND AT THE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK UP ANYTHING, YOU WILL NOT HAPPY AT THIS TIME, OKAY.
TO USE YOUR BALLAD, TO HAVE YOUR RIGHT.
SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR COUNTY, OKAY.
FAILED TO COME OVER HERE AGAIN, TO GIVE US A DETAIL AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
AND WE CAN HAVE EVERYBODY TO FEEL COMFORTABLE TO VOTE AND TRUST THE SYSTEM.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A DOUBT ABOUT THIS MAIL AND THE BOWEN POT.
SOMEBODY SAID THE FIRE, HOW CAN WE PROTECT THE RIGHT? AND THE, HOW CAN WE, THIS IS DEMOCRACY OF THE UNITED STATES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY EXERCISE THERE.
THEY AWRY AND WE HAVE THE WHITE PERSON TO GET ELECTED.
CARRY ON AND TELL US ALL THE QUESTION.
AND LATER ON, WE HAVE A Q AND A, IF ANY PEOPLE HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND PRESENT TO THE GOOD CITIZENS OF WEST COVINA TONIGHT.
DEFINITELY AS A MAYOR STATED IN THIS TIME OF MISINFORMATION, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET OUT, UH, AS THE COUNTY AND GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO THE FOLKS STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE.
SO I HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TONIGHT CALLED VOTING IN A TIME OF PANDEMIC.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NONE OF US, HOPEFULLY I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE, AND HOPEFULLY NONE OF US EVER HAVE TO EXPERIENCE AGAIN, BUT I'M GOING TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING TO TRY AND LAY SOME FEARS AND MAKE SURE WE ALL TURN OUT EITHER AT THE POLLS OR WITH OUR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS.
SO REAL QUICKLY, LA COUNTY AT A GLANCE, YOU
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KNOW, I'VE SPOKEN HERE BEFORE LA COUNTY IS THE LARGEST, MOST DIVERSE VOTING JURISDICTION IN THE NATION.IT IS MADE UP OF 10 MILLION RESIDENTS OF THAT 10 MILLION.
WE HAVE ABOUT 6.1 MILLION THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.
AND OF THAT 6.1 MILLION, WE HAVE 5.6 MILLION THAT ARE ACTUALLY REGISTERED.
SO WE HAVE A GREAT REGISTRATION RATE IN LA COUNTY COMES OUT TO ONE WHERE MY MATH MAJORS, 85, 88% UP THERE.
WHAT WE NEED TO WORK ON IS GETTING THAT TURNOUT UP.
SO NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION IN A SNAPSHOT, UH, WE ARE 5.5 MILLION REGISTERED VOTERS GOING BACK TO APRIL, UH, WHEN THE PANDEMIC FIRST HIT, WHEN WE FIRST WENT INTO LOCKDOWN, THAT'S WHEN OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS ACTUALLY VERY PROACTIVE ABOUT APPROACHING US AND ASKING US, HEY, OR LETTING US KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS IS GOING TO GO ON.
WE HAVE A WAY OR A PLAN IN PLACE TO PROVIDE BOATING TO THE PUBLIC.
IF WE'RE STILL ON LOCKDOWN, WHAT'S A SAFE WAY WE COULD PROVIDE VOTING.
WE DETERMINED THAT SENDING EVERY REGISTERED VOTER, EVERY REGISTERED HAVE VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT.
SO EVERY VOTER THAT WAS REGISTERED BY THE CLOSE OF REGISTRATION DEADLINE, WHICH WAS YESTERDAY, OCTOBER 19TH WILL RECEIVE A VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT.
NOW THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE YOU FROM VOTING AT THE POLLS, WE WILL STILL HAVE IN-PERSON VOTING OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN DO SO SAFELY.
THE BIGGEST HURDLE TO THAT HAS BEEN SOCIAL DISTANCING, RIGHT? SO THE SMALL COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WE MAY HAVE USED IN THE PAST IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
WE CAN'T FIT ENOUGH STAFF MEMBERS, VOTERS, AND VOTING DEVICES IN THERE WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING.
SO WE MOVED ON TO LARGER LOCATIONS, OR YOU MAY HAVE SEEN WE'RE VOTING IN PLACES LIKE THE HOLLYWOOD BOWL, KAGAN PATIO OUT THERE AT DODGERS STADIUM.
WE HAVE LARGER LOCATIONS WHERE WE COULD SPREAD PEOPLE OUT AND ENSURE SOCIAL DISTANCING.
WE WILL HAVE THE FULL 11 DAY VOTING PER IN-PERSON VOTING PERIOD.
AND THAT STARTS THIS SATURDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, OCTOBER 24TH IS THE FIRST DAY OF VOTING.
WE'LL HAVE OVER 70 LOCATIONS SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE COUNTY.
AND THEN ON OCTOBER 30TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY, ALMOST A WEEK LATER, THAT NUMBER WILL BUMP UP TO ABOUT 800 VOTE CENTERS ACROSS THE COUNTY.
AND THE KEY THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT VOTING CENTERS IS THAT THEY OFFER YOU A PLACE TO VOTE, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY, YOU ARE NOT TIED TO A HOME PRECINCT ANYMORE.
YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR WEST COVINA BALLOT.
YOU WILL NOT BE FORCED TO VOTE PROVISIONALLY.
YOU WILL NOT MISS OUT ON LOCAL CONTESTS OR MEASURES.
AND THEN FINALLY WE'VE UPDATED OUR, OR WE'VE UPPED THE NUMBER OF DROPBOXES WE HAVE AROUND THE COUNTY.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM RIGHT THERE.
THESE ARE WHAT THE OFFICIAL DROPBOX HAS ACTUALLY LOOKED LIKE FULLY BRANDED BY LOS ANGELES, COUNTY BLUE AND YELLOW.
DURING THE PRIMARY, WE HAD ABOUT 200, JUST OVER 200, 208 DROPBOXES AROUND THE COUNTY FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.
WE BUMPED UP THAT NUMBER TO 400, THERE ARE 400.
DROPBOX'S A FEW THINGS WE WOULD DO WANT TO REMIND VOTERS IS THAT WHEN YOU ARE TURNING IN YOUR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT, WHETHER YOU'RE SUBMITTING IT VIA USBS, WHETHER YOU'RE SUBMITTING IT VIA ONE OF OUR OFFICIAL DROPBOXES, OR IF YOU'RE DROPPING IT OFF AT ANY VOTE CENTER DURING THE VOTING PERIOD, PLEASE ALWAYS REMEMBER TO SIGN THE BACK OF YOUR BALLOT.
SO PLEASE SIGN THE BACK OF YOUR BALLOT.
IF SOMEONE ELSE IS DROPPING IT OFF ON YOUR BEHALF, WHICH IS COMPLETELY LEGAL TO DO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIGN THE BACK OF YOUR BALLOT.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S OKAY, YOU KNOW, THE LAW SAYS SOMEBODY ELSE THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A RELATIVE OR A MEMBER OF YOUR HOUSEHOLD TO DROP OFF YOUR BALLOT.
BUT WHAT I DO CAUTION FOLKS IS PLEASE ONLY RELEASE THAT BALLOT TO SOMEONE YOU ABSOLUTELY KNOW.
AND TRUST ONE THING WE ARE PROMOTING FOLKS IS PLEASE, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'VE STARTED THIS, WE'VE HAD USBS DELAYS, RIGHT? THIS IS SOMETHING NOBODY FORESAW.
SO THE STATE HAS REACTED TO TRY AND PROTECT THE VOTER A LITTLE MORE AND THEY'VE EXTENDED DEADLINES.
NOW I MENTIONED THAT WE STARTED THIS PROCESS BACK IN APRIL, A SPURRED ON BY THE PROACTIVENESS OF OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AT THAT TIME, UH, THEY STARTED CON WE STARTED CONVERSATIONS WITH USP RIGHT AWAY, CAUSE WE KNEW, HEY, WE TYPICALLY SEND OUT ABOUT 3 MILLION BALLOTS, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING OUT OVER 5 MILLION.
SO LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION STARTED.
WE HAVE A SOFT COMMITMENT FROM USBS.
IT IS THEIR GOAL TO DELIVER ALL ELECTION RELATED, WHETHER IT'S FROM THE COUNTY, TO THE VOTER OR FROM THE VOTER BACK TO THE COUNTY WITHIN FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS.
NOW ON TOP OF THAT, THE STATE HAS STEPPED IN AND EXTENDED SOME OF OUR DEADLINES.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE PAST, WE COULD ONLY RECEIVE A VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT AS LONG AS IT WAS POSTMARKED ON ELECTION DAY, THREE DAYS PAST ELECTION.
WE COULD RECEIVE IT UP TO THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY.
HOWEVER, FOR THIS ELECTION, THE STATE HAS AMENDED THE LAW AND WE NOW HAVE THE E PLUS 17 LAW.
MEANING AS LONG AS YOUR BALLOT IS POSTMARK ON NOVEMBER 3RD, WE CAN ACCEPT IT ALL THE WAY UP TO NOVEMBER 20TH.
AND OUR TEAM DOES GO DOWN TO USBS HEADQUARTERS EVERY DAY AND PICKS UP BALLOTS.
UH, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, TYPICALLY ON A GENERAL ELECTION BACK IN 2016 AND SIMILAR ELECTIONS, WE WIND UP WITH ABOUT ONE POINT WE PROCESS ABOUT 1.3 MILLION VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS.
WE'VE BEEN PROCESSING FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF WEEKS NOW, AND WE'RE ALREADY APPROACHING 1 MILLION BALLOTS PROCESSED.
ANOTHER THING THE STATE HAS DONE TO TRY AND ALLAY FEARS OF THE VOTERS AND TO ENSURE THAT YOUR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT IS GETTING WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.
IS THEY PARTNER WITH A COMPANY CALLED BALLOT TRACKS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THEIR WEBSITE THERE IT'S CALIFORNIA DOT BALLOT TRACKS.NET RESURFACE,
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SUPER SIMPLE TO SIGN UP.ALL YOU NEED IS A NAME, ADDRESS, BIRTH DATE, AND PROVIDE EITHER AN EMAIL ADDRESS.
IF YOU WANT EMAIL ALERTS OR A CELL PHONE NUMBER, IF YOU WANT TEXT ALERTS AND YOU WILL RECEIVE ALERTS ON THE STATUS OF YOUR BALLOT, AS IT PROGRESSES FROM YOUR HOME TO THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE TO HEADQUARTERS, UH, NOT UNLIKE WHEN YOU ORDER SOMETHING ONLINE, RIGHT? YOU'LL GET A NOTIFICATION SAYING, HEY, YOUR BALANCE HAS BEEN RECEIVED BY USP S HEADQUARTERS.
YOUR BALLOT IS ON ROUTE TO RCC, THAT TYPE OF THING IN LIEU OF THAT, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO LA VOTE.NET.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A BALLOT LOOKUP TOOL THERE.
THAT ONE WILL GIVE YOU A SINGLE THERE.
YOU SIMPLY CLICK THAT AND IT'LL TELL YOU WHETHER YOUR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
AND IF IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR COUNTING, NOW, WE WILL NOT TELL THE ANY BALLOTS UNTIL POLLS CLOSE ON APM ON NOVEMBER 3RD.
THAT'S WHEN TALLY ACTUALLY BEGAN.
SO EVERYTHING HAPPENING NOW IS JUST PROCESSING THE BALLOTS, VERIFYING SIGNATURES AND GETTING THEM READY FOR THAT.
I MENTIONED WE'LL HAVE 11 DAY AND FIVE DAY VOTING PERIODS.
UM, IF ANYBODY'S CURIOUS, YOU, EVERY HOUSEHOLD SHOULD HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED A LISTING OF ALL, BOTH CENTERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LIVE IN LA COUNTY.
AGAIN, YOU CAN GO TO ANY VOTE CENTER.
YOU CAN FIND THAT LIST IN ALSO ON LA VOTE.NET AND ON PEOPLE'S, UH, VOTE BY MAIL BELTS OR CENTRAL BELL BOOKS.
IT WILL LIST ACTUALLY YOUR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT.
IT WILL LIST THE THREE NEAREST LOCATIONS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, EVERY REGISTERED VOTER SHOULD RECEIVE A POSTCARD.
IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS ONE THAT WILL TELL YOU WHERE YOUR THREE NEAREST LOCATIONS ARE.
I MENTIONED WE WILL HAVE IN-PERSON VOTING WHERE WE CAN DO SO SAFELY.
UH, WE WILL BE USING THE NEW BALLOT MARKING DEVICES THAT ROLLED OUT, UH, DURING THE PRIMARY ELECTION.
WE'VE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A PAPER BALLOT, NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
UH, ONCE IT PRINTS, IT KNOWS NOT WHO YOU VOTED FOR IS THAT PROPER ENGLISH.
IT DOESN'T KNOW WHO YOU VOTED FOR.
THE MEMORY IS CLEARED AFTER EACH VOTER AND FOR THIS ELECTION, AFTER EVERY VOTER, SOMEBODY WILL COME UP WIPED DOWN AND SANITIZE THE ENTIRE UNIT BETWEEN VOTERS.
SOMETHING WE IMPLEMENTED WITH THAT NEW VOTING SYSTEM IS WHAT WE CALL THE INTERACTIVE SAMPLE BALLOT.
THIS COMES IN, ESPECIALLY HANDY DURING A PANDEMIC.
WHEN IT'S THE CLOSEST WE CAN GET TO A TOUCHLESS IN-PERSON VOTING EXPERIENCE.
AND WHAT THIS IS, IS YOU'RE ABLE TO SIGN UP ONLINE AND RECEIVE YOUR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT ELECTRONICALLY VIA EMAIL.
ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN GET IT ON YOUR PHONE OR YOUR PC.
YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF PRE MARKING YOUR CHOICES ON YOUR PHONE OR PC.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT VOTING OVER THERE AND YET WE'RE JUST PRE MARKING OUR CHOICES MUCH THE SAME WAY WE WOULD WITH A PAPER SAMPLE BALLOT.
ONCE YOU'RE DONE, IT WILL GIVE YOU A QR CODE LIKE YOU SEE ON THE CENTER IMAGE.
THERE, YOU CAN PRINT THAT OUT AS THIS PERSON HAS DONE, OR YOU COULD JUST KEEP IT RESIDENT ON YOUR CELL PHONE, TAKE A SCREEN, A SCREEN IMAGE AND KEEP IT THERE.
ONCE YOU GO TO THE VOTE CENTER AND CHECK IN, YOU SIMPLY SCAN THAT QR CODE AND YOUR BALLOT WILL BE POPULATED.
ACCORDING TO HOW YOU CHOSE AT HOME, YOU HAVE ONE CHANCE THEN TO MAKE ANY LAST MINUTE CHANGES ON THE SCREEN.
AND WHEN YOU'RE READY TO GO, YOU SIMPLY HIT PRINT, REVIEW YOUR CHOICES AND HIT SUBMIT, AND IT'LL SUCK THE BALLOT RIGHT BACK UP INTO A SELF CONTAINED BALLOT BOX.
IF THERE IS, FOR EXAMPLE, I RECEIVED A OKAY, THE VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT, BUT I WANT TO VOTE IN PERSON.
SO SHALL I SURRENDER? OKAY, WE'RE NOT RIGHT.
OR SHOULD I DO WHAT THE RESIDENT SHOULD DO? WELL, WE ASK YOU TO DO IS BRING THAT VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT TO ANY VOTE CENTER WHEN YOU'RE READY TO VOTE.
WHEN YOU CHECK IN AT THAT POINT, WE'LL SPOIL THAT BALLOT AND WE'LL ISSUE YOU A NEW BALLOT.
IN WHICH CASE YOU VOTE ON THE BALLOT, MARKING DEVICE ON A STANDARD PAPER BALLOT.
NOW, IF SOMEONE SHOWS UP AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT, THEY'VE FORGOTTEN IT.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT.
WHEN WE SEE YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR BALLOT, WE'LL STILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SPOILING IT THAT WAY.
IF IT DOES SHOW UP AND IT SCAN WE'LL KNOW THAT'S A SPOILED BALLOT AND WE'LL ISSUE A FRESH BALLOT RIGHT THERE ON THE SPOT.
OH, THIS IS NEXT ONE, RIGHT? IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL A LITTLE TOO FAMILIAR WITH THESE DAYS AND IT'S THE COVID SAFETY GUIDELINES, BUT IT IS TO ENSURE YOU THAT AT EVERY VOTE CENTER THAT YOU'RE AT, WE WILL BE ENFORCING ALL STATE AND COUNTY MANDATES REGARDING QUBIT SAFETY MASKS WILL BE REQUIRED AT ALL VOTES CENTERS.
ALL BOLT CENTER EMPLOYEES WILL BE WEARING MASKS AND FACE SHIELDS.
IN ADDITION TO GLOVES, IF YOU DID NOT HAVE A MASK ON EVERY VOTE CENTER WILL HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A STOP STATION.
YOU'LL BE REQUIRED TO STOP THERE BEFORE ENTERING THE VOTE CENTER AND YOU WILL BE OFFERED A MASK.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE GLOVES, ALSO ALL THAT WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY.
SO HERE'S OUR TIMELINE FOR THE ELECTION.
UM, SEPTEMBER 24TH IS WHEN SAMPLE BALLOT BOOKS BEGAN MAILING OUT OCTOBER 5TH IS WHEN WE STARTED MAILING OUT THE VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS.
THAT'S ALSO WHEN WE BEGAN EARLY VOTING AT NORWALK HEADQUARTERS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S WILLING TO DRIVE OUT TO NORWALK FOR EARLY VOTING, BUT IT WAS AVAILABLE OUT THERE.
AND IT WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT WE OPENED UP OUR, UH, BALLOT OR A VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT DROP BOXES, OCTOBER 19TH, WHICH WAS YESTERDAY, WAS THE OFFICIAL CLOSE OF REGISTRATION.
NOW WE DID HAVE A BOX AVAILABLE AT OUR OFFICE UP UNTIL 11:59 PM TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT MINUTE REGISTRATION IN.
HOWEVER, IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, BUT DID NOT REGISTER, THEY MISSED THE DEADLINE.
THANKS TO THE NEW VOTING SYSTEM WE'VE IMPLEMENTED AND
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SOME CHANGES FOR INTO THE VOTERS CHOICE ACT THAT PASSED LAST YEAR.YOU COULD WALK INTO ANY VOTE CENTER AND TAKE PART IN WHAT WE CALL CONDITIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION.
THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC REFERS TO AS SAME DAY VOTER REGISTRATION.
WE WILL REGISTER YOU AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A BALLOT ON THE SPOT.
NOW ON THE BACK END, WE STILL HAVE TO TREAT THAT BALLOT MUCH.
THE SAME WAY OF PROVISIONAL IS TREATED.
WE HAVE TO VERIFY YOUR ADDRESS.
WE HAVE TO VERIFY YOUR SIGNATURE, ALL THAT OTHER INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN TELL YET.
BUT AGAIN, THAT PERSON WHO TYPICALLY WOULD HAVE MISSED OUT BECAUSE THEY MISSED A REGISTRATION DEADLINE.
NOW HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAST A BALLOT ON OCTOBER 24TH.
THAT STATE IS WHEN ALL THE VOTE CENTERS OPEN UP.
ALL THE VOTE CENTERS ACROSS THE COUNTY WILL BE OPENED UP FROM 10:00 AM TO 7:00 PM.
DAILY 10:00 AM TO 7:00 PM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NOVEMBER 3RD, WHICH HAS A TRADITIONAL ELECTION DAY HOURS, TRADITIONAL AND LEGAL ELECTION DAY, HOURS OF 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM.
I MENTIONED TODAY THAT I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT HERE AND PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE.
BUT IF PEOPLE DO WANT OTHER INFORMATION, RATHER THAN, UH, HAVING LISA CALL ME UP EVERYDAY AND SAY, HEY, PHIL, ARE THERE ANY UPDATES? I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR TWITTER ACCOUNT HAS LONG TIME BEEN, HEY, LOOK, HERE'S A PICTURE OF FIELDS, OUTREACH TEAM REGISTERING VOTERS THAT THE NEW CITIZENS CEREMONY AND HERE THEY ARE AT DODGER STADIUM, BUT NOW WE'VE REALLY SHIFTED GEARS ON THAT.
AND WE'VE CHANGED IT TO JUST INFORMATION AND HOW TO, SO IT'S PRIMARILY KEY DATES.
HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, KEEPING PEOPLE UP TO DATE, PUTTING OUT IMPORTANT INFORMATION, ANY CHANGES THAT MAY OCCUR TO THE LAWS, A EXTENSION OF DEADLINES, WHICH OCCURRED AS WE WERE PLANNING THIS, WE WOULD POST THOSE EXTENSIONS OF DEADLINES FOR FOLKS.
SO THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE YOU WANT TO GO TO THE, GET THE MOST ACCURATE UP TO DATE INFORMATION.
I WANT IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT QUICK BECAUSE I DO WANT TO DO I'LL HAVE TIME.
I UNDERSTAND COUNSEL HAD A, SOME QUESTIONS.
SO THE MAYOR WANTS TO LEAVE THAT.
MAY I APPROACH ONE OF THE, ONE OF OUR SENIOR RESIDENT, UM, MESSAGED ME, EMAILED ME TODAY IN REGARDS TO THE SECURITY OF THE BALLOT BOX.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THE BALLOT BOX THAT BURNED IN BALDWIN PARK AND SHE WANTED TO KNOW, ARE THERE CAMERAS? WHAT IS THE SECURITY AND SAFEGUARD OF HER BALLOTS? WE HAVE, UH, IN THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE PLACED HIM FROM MOST PLACES, WE TRY AND FIND A HOST LOCATION, RIGHT? WHERE WE HAVE SOMEONE IN A NEARBY BUSINESS IT'S OUT IN FRONT OF THEIR STORE OR SOMETHING THAT KEEPS ON IT.
UNFORTUNATELY IT JUST LIKE MAILBOXES.
SOME ARE GONNA BE IN PARKS WHERE PEOPLE, TRAFFIC, UH, HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS, BUT MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE SOMEBODY WATCHING IT 24 SEVEN.
WE HAVE TO RELY ON PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE LAW, RIGHT? JUST LIKE A MAILBOX.
SOMEONE COULD DO ANYTHING TO GO MAILBOX, BUT WE RELY ON PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE LAW.
WHAT HAPPENED IN BALDWIN PARK IS UNFORTUNATE.
UH, SOMEONE JUST MADE THEMSELVES A FELON, BUT AT THE SAME, WE IMMEDIATELY TOOK ACTION.
WE BEGAN AN OUTREACH CAMPAIGN STARTING FROM THAT AREA FIRST AND MOVING OUT FROM THAT NOTIFYING PEOPLE, WHAT HAPPENED AND LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT THEIR OPTIONS WERE PROVIDING THE PHONE NUMBER TO CALL IN.
IF THEY FELL UP, HEY, I HAD JUST DROPPED MY SON OFF THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPOIL THAT AND REISSUE A NEW BALLOT.
WHEN WE DO REISSUE, THAT BALLOT GOES OUT THE SAME DAY.
AND WHAT VOTERS HAVE BEEN RESPONDING BACK TO THAT? THEY HAVE BEEN RECEIVING IT WITHIN FIVE DAYS, FIVE TO SIX DAYS, ACTUALLY.
AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY ARE PICKED UP DAILY.
SO WHAT TIME DO THEY GET PICKED UP? UM, THERE'S NO EXACT TIME.
WE SEND OUT THERE'S 400 DROP BOXES.
WE SEND OUT MANY TEAMS OF FOLKS WHO HIT THE COUNTY.
THEY'RE PICKED UP EVERY 24 HOURS.
SO THERE'S, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IT IS, BUT IT'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT GO OUT.
THEY ALWAYS GO OUT AND AT LEAST A TEAM OF TWO, NO ONE HAS EVER ALONE WITH BALLOTS.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE PICKUP IS 24 HOURS.
UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE LIKE ON A CABLE INSTALLATION TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE ANYTIME BETWEEN ONE AND 5:00 PM.
I KNOW I WAS JUST THROWING THAT OUT ON THAT DAY OR THE DAY? YES.
AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER RESIDENT ASK BECAUSE THEY'RE FATHER AND SON HAS THE SAME NAME, EXCEPT SON IS JUNIOR.
BUT THE, I THINK ONE OF THEM ACCIDENTALLY SIGNED ONE OF THE BALLOT, BUT THEY, THEY SCRATCH IT OFF AND CORRECT IT.
BUT THEY SAID, THEY'RE ASKING, IS THAT OKAY TO JUST SCRATCH OFF AND THEN PUT THEIR CORRECT SIGNATURE FOR THE, THAT WILL BE OKAY BECAUSE BALANCE 10 GOES A LONG WAY.
AND AS LONG AS THAT SIGNATURE DOES MATCH, WE'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, OKAY, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON THAT SIGNED IT.
NOW KEEP IN MIND IF YOUR BELL AT SIGNATURE DOESN'T MATCH, IF IT'S QUESTIONED OR LIKE MANY PEOPLE DO, THEY MAIL IT OFF AND FORGET TO SIGN IT.
THAT DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFY YOUR BALLOT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE USE AUTOMATIC SIGNATURE VERIFICATION AND THE TOLERANCES ON THAT MACHINE ARE VERY TIGHT.
SO IF IT SAYS IT'S A GOOD SIGNATURE, GREAT.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN IT'S THAT NITPICKY, IT'S GOING TO THROW OUT SOMEONE LIKE MY GRANDMOTHER WHO WAS 96 YEARS OLD, HER HANDWRITING GOT A LITTLE SHAKY, RIGHT? SO IT MAY QUESTION THAT BY LAW, ANYTHING THAT, THAT MACHINE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A HUMAN VERIFY IN LA COUNTY BECAUSE WE ARE THE LARGEST IN THE NATION.
THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF EYES ON US, DESPITE YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE'S THE CURRENT ELECTION CLIMATE OR NOT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF EYES ON US.
SO WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT IN LA COUNTY, OUR RULE IS IF THEIR
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MACHINE QUESTIONS A SIGNATURE, WE REQUIRED THREE PEOPLE TO VERIFY THAT SIGNATURE, IF ALL THREE QUESTION IT, IT'S STILL NOT DEAD.AT THAT POINT, THAT DAY, A LETTER WILL GO OUT TO THE VOTER, EXPLAINING THE SITUATION.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO VERIFY YOUR SIGNATURE.
PLEASE CAREFULLY SIGN YOUR SIGNATURE.
IF THAT MATCHES WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR DATABASE, THEN WE WILL COUNT THAT BALLOT.
SO WE GIVE THE VOTER EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN.
UM, AND THEY DEADLINE TO RECEIVE THAT SIGNATURE LETTER HAS ALSO BEEN EXTENDED.
IT ACTUALLY GOES TO THE END OF THE, I BELIEVE IT'S NOVEMBER 27TH.
COUNCILMAN CASIANO WHAT'S THE BEST AND EASIEST WAY TO CORRECT.
ANY KIND OF MISTAKES, REGISTRATIONS REGISTRATION.
THESE ARE JUST WAY TO CORRECT.
HER REGISTRATION WAS TAKE IS JUST TO SIMPLY REREGISTER.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT.
UM, HOW ABOUT SITUATIONS WHERE LIKE MAYBE, UH, DUPLICATES OCCUR OR DUPLICATES WITH MISSPELLINGS OR, UM, I'VE HEARD OF PEOPLE RECEIVING BALLOTS THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW EXIST.
FIRST THING YOU NEED TO DO IS NOTIFY US RIGHT AWAY.
SO FIRST OF ALL, IF IT'S YOU RECEIVING DUPLICATES, ONE THING WE'LL DO IS WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK.
I'VE HAD THIS COME UP SEVERAL TIMES A DAY FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED.
SO I'M RENTING OUT MY OWN PLACE AND I STILL GOT A BALLOT THERE.
WELL, WE LOOK IT UP IN THE SYSTEM IT'S BECAUSE WHEN THEY MOVED, THEY DID REREGISTER AS THEY SHOULD, BUT THEY DIDN'T REGISTER INTO THE SAME NAME.
THEY DIDN'T USE THEIR MIDDLE INITIAL OR INSTEAD OF MARYLAND, THEY JUST PUT MARY ON THE SECOND ONE.
SO WHEN THE COMPUTER IS SAYING, WELL, MARYLAND OR SOMETHING LIVES HERE AND MARY SOMETHING LIVES HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
ALL IT TAKES IS A SIMPLE LETTER.
YOU CAN CONTACT ME, SEND ME AN EMAIL.
I'D WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT WE DO IT ALL THE TIME WOULD LIKE YOUR CONTACT INFO IN THE EMAIL ADDRESS ON THE SCREEN.
BUT BEFORE WE LEAVE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LEAVE LISA WITH A NUMBER OF MY BUSINESS CARDS FOR YOURSELF, FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND PICK UP, GIVE ME A CALL.
I AM YOUR CONDUIT TO THE DEPARTMENT, DUDE.
ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER QUESTION? NO.
I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE RESIDENT.
UM, I THOUGHT OF IT BASED ON A QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM ASKED, UM, IT REMINDED ME WHEN I WENT TO GET MY LICENSE RENEWED AND THEY SAID, OKAY, YOU HAVE TO SIGN IT EXACTLY.
WELL, IT WAS MY 16 YEAR OLD SIGNATURE VERSUS MY 32 YEAR OLD SIGNATURE.
SO WHEN YOU SEND FOR VERIFICATION, ARE PEOPLE ALLOWED TO SAY, LOOK, THIS IS ME.
IT JUST LOOKS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A 20 YEAR OLD SIGNATURE.
HOW, OR IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO CORRECT IT? SO, SO THE BEST WAY, IF YOU'RE LIKE MANY PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, I HAVE A WORK SIGNATURE AND MY LEGAL DOCUMENTS SIGNATURE, RIGHT? WORK LOOKS LIKE MY INITIALS AND ALIGN LEGAL DOCUMENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE HANDWRITING CHART FROM FIFTH GRADE, RIGHT? I'M STILL SIGNING THE SAME WAY WHEN I GOT MY FIRST BANK ACCOUNT AT 18 AND ALL THAT.
THEY WE'RE GOING TO LAW FIRMS. SO I CALL IT MY PROOF OF SERVICE, SIGNATURE, SAME THING, SAME CONCEPT.
SO WHAT WE DO IS EVERY TIME SOMEONE REGISTERS FIRST OFF REGISTRATION DOES NOT GET YOU JURY DUTY.
LET'S PUT THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY USE THE SAME, UH, PUBLIC DATABASE THAT WE USE AND AS A DMV.
SO THE FIRST TIME YOU REGISTERED, WE'RE VERIFYING YOUR SIGNATURE AGAINST YOUR DMV SIGNATURE.
EVERY SUBSEQUENT TIME YOU REGISTER, WE'RE RECORDING THAT SIGNATURE AS YOUR NEW SIGNATURE.
SO YOU MOVED, YOU CHANGED YOUR NAME, CHANGED YOUR POLITICAL PARTY.
REREGISTERED NOW WE SCAN THAT AND WE'LL KEEP EVERY SIGNATURE ON FILE.
SO IT'S HIGHLY POSSIBLE THAT ONE DAY I WALK IN AND I DECIDED LIKE, OH, I'M GOING TO START SIGNING THE WAY I DID WHEN I WAS ON HIGH SCHOOL, I'M A LITTLE MIDLIFE CRISIS.
WELL, MY SIGNATURE DOESN'T EXACTLY MATCH THAT.
CLERK HAS THE ABILITY TO BRING UP ALL MY SIGNATURES.
AND I SAID, OH, LOOK, WELL, ACROSS THE BOARD FEELS P'S ARE ALWAYS THE SAME.
HE HAS THAT SIGNATURE LETTER THERE AGAIN, THE LAW DOES SAY IT HAS TO BE AN EXACT MATCH.
WE'RE NOT HANDWRITING ANALYSTS, BUT WHAT IT DOES SAY IT HAS TO BE A REASONABLE SIMILARITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO MAKE THAT MATCH.
AND I ESPECIALLY ASKED THAT SINCE LIKE I HAD TO CHANGE MY ADDRESS.
WELL, NOW YOU JUST GO ON TO LA VOTE.NET AND DO IT THERE.
SO YOU'RE NOT REWRITE AS YOU'RE NOT REWRITING YOUR SIGNATURE AND YOUR SIGNATURE AND SOMETHING YOU COULD DO.
AND I'M SORRY, YOUR GOVERNMENT CHARGES FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT THREE BUCKS.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY REQUEST A CERTIFIED COPY OF YOUR REGISTRATION.
SOME PEOPLE WILL TELL ME, LIKE, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW I STARTED FILLING I FIVE YEARS AGO.
IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU CAN REQUEST A CERTIFIED COPY FOR THREE BUCKS AND VERIFY HOW YOU SIGN OR YOU CAN TAKE TWO MINUTES, FILL OUT WHEN YOU READ FORM.
GIVE ME A CURRENT, UH, SIGNATURE AND WE'LL HAVE THAT ON FILE ALSO.
AND ANY OTHER CONSOLE MEMBER? OKAY, VERY GOOD.
I CAN MOVE ON TO THE AUDIENCE.
BUT BEFORE THAT I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, I THINK, OKAY.
IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY MOVE UP, BUT OKAY.
SOME OF THE VOTE BY MAIL BELL IS STILL OKAY.
ALL RESIDENT WITH A DIFFERENT SPELLING WRONG.
SO HOW YOU DEAL WITH THE SITUATION? IT'S LIKE, OKAY, PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT WHY.
THEY SEND THE KIND OF THING INTO IT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE PEOPLE CALL IT FROM PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE THERE ANYMORE.
WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO IS A, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO TURN IN THOSE BALLOTS BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKE THEMSELVES
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FELON.WE WANT THEM TO NOTIFY US RIGHT AWAY.
AND ANOTHER THING I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE RESIDENT BECAUSE OKAY.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ME ALL TIME, WE WANT TO THOUGH IN PERSON.
AND HOW MANY IN OUR CT READY TO OPEN? WAYNE'S OPEN.
SO MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE INFORMATION IS OUR, LET'S SAY THE CITY CLERK AND SHARE WITH OUR RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN VOTE IN PERSON.
STUDYING WHAT DAY AND THE WAY IT'S LOCATED.
SO ALL ON TILE RESIDENT
WE HAVE EIGHT IN PERSON VOTE CENTERS HERE IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AND THEY OPENED OCTOBER 30TH, FIVE DAYS BEFORE ELECTION DAY.
AND THOSE CENTERS ARE AT THE WEST KOBE FIGHT.
THEY WILL BE WHICH THEY WILL BE LENT.
OCTOBER FACILITY IS THAT WILL BE WHAT? FRIDAY.
SO FRIDAY, OCTOBER, THIRD YEARS WERE OPEN.
WHAT TIME? EIGHT, 10, 10:00 AM TO 7:00 PM.
AND THAT WILL CONTINUE OCTOBER 30TH, TIAA, NOVEMBER 3RD.
I GO AHEAD AND ON NOVEMBER 3RD, IT'S AT EIGHT, EIGHT, I'M SORRY.
SEVEN TO EIGHT ON THE NOVEMBER 3RD.
YOU WILL OPEN FOR THE LOCATION.
EIGHT LOCATIONS IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
WE HAVE THE WEST COVINA LIBRARY PLAZA, WEST COVINA, CAMERON PARK, COMMUNITY CENTER, CORTEZ PARK, COMMUNITY AND SENIOR CENTER, SHADOW OAK PARK, RECREATION CENTER, ORANGE WOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, VFW POST 86, 20 AND SAN JOSE EDISON ACADEMY.
LIKE, LIKE ME, I PREFER IN PERSON.
I HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HAVE THE APPROVAL.
WHICH IS LOCAL IN WEST COVINA.
BUT FOR THE CITIZENS, YOU COULD USE ANY LOCATION ACROSS THE COUNTY.
SO IF YOU DO FIND YOURSELF OUT IN VENICE BEACH FOR THE DAY, AND YOU SEE A VOLT CENTER THERE, YOU COULD POP IN AND YOU WILL, YOU HAVE YOUR WEST COVINA BALLOT, ALL YOUR HOME MEASURES AND CONTESTS.
AND ANY QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE? OKAY.
EVERYBODY VOTE, THEY ALL BOUGHT ALREADY.
EVERYBODY ALREADY CAST THEIR BALLOTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PARTICIPATE.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH TO FAIL.
FAIL FOR CALM DOWN THE SECOND TIME, BUT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO VOTE.
FOR OUR RESIDENT TO PARTICIPATE.
AND CHOOSE THE WHITE PERSON YOU PREFER AND TO WIN THE POSITION.
AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO OVERALL COMMUNICATION.
[ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - Five (5) minutes per speaker]
AND REGARDING ANY PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 14.I THINK WE SHOULD RESERVE THE TIME.
FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SPEAK UP, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE CODING.
BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE AGENDA ON THE AGENDA.
FOR OF COMMUNICATION, NOTHING ABOUT THE, OKAY.
THE AGENDA, NUMBER 14, YOU ARE FREE TO SPEAK.
AND HOW MANY SPEAKER WE HAVE? SO AGAIN, UH, AS SOON AS CITY CLERK, I THINK WE HOSE THOSE PEOPLE REGARDING OPPOSE OR IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA.
INCLUDING TO LET TIME WE LET THEM TO SPEAK FOR THAT AGENDA.
ANYTHING IS NOT ABOUT THE AGENDA.
THREE SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE NOT AN ITEM.
SO, UH, WE HAVE AGENDA NUMBER 14 TO TALK ABOUT THE GAS STATION, THE ONE AND BILL THAT WILL BE.
SO IF WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND WE ARE GOING TO QUICKLY FINISH ALL THIS, THEN AGENDA NUMBER 40, COME UP.
YOU FOODIE TO TALK ABOUT IN FAVOR OF POSTS.
SO, BECAUSE WE HAVE AGENDA, IT'S ALWAYS DESIGNED FOR THAT.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS GABRIELLE RODRIGUEZ.
GABRIEL RODRIGUEZ FOLLOWED BY MARK VILLANOVA.
MY NAME IS GABRIEL RODRIGUEZ AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA
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SINCE I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THAT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBERS, EVERYTHING THAT GENDER ITEM, NUMBER SIX, BE STRICKEN FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL.
THIS IS ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL'S AVERSION TO ANYTHING THAT COULD HELP OUR CITIES ON HOUSE POPULATION.
WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC.
PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO MAKE THEIR RENTS.
AND INSTEAD OF WORKING WITH THE STATE GOVERNMENT TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THIS COUNCIL, THIS COUNCIL WOULD RATHER CONTINUE TO BUILD LUXURY APARTMENTS THAT PEOPLE IN WEST COVINA CAN SIMPLY NOT AFFORD.
ACCORDING TO THE 2019 ACI ACS ONE YEAR INCOME ESTIMATES FOR WEST COVINA, 32% OF HOUSEHOLDS IN WEST COVINA ARE MAKING LESS THAN $50,000 A YEAR.
THAT IS NOT AN INCOME THAT CAN SUPPORT THESE NEW HOUSING UNITS LIKE THE COLONY OR THAT NEW LUXURY SENIOR CENTER ON SUNSET.
IT IS THIS EXACT DEMOGRAPHIC THAT IS MOST VULNERABLE TO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS.
AT THE END OF THE, OF THIS PANDEMIC HAS ONLY 1.1% OF PEOPLE IN WEST COVINA IN THAT INCOME RANGE OWN THEIR HOMES.
THIS INITIATIVE, CALIFORNIA CITIES FOR LOCAL CONTROL ARE OPPOSED TO BUILDING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT NOT ONLY THIS CITY, BUT THE ENTIRE STATE WILL NEED IN ORDER TO WEATHER THE STORM OF THE UPCOMING EVICTION CRISIS, THEY WOULD RATHER SEE OUR FELLOW RESIDENTS OF WEST COVINA, HOMELESS THAN QUOTE UNQUOTE RUIN THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
LET ME ASK YOU WHAT EVEN IS THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS OUR CHARACTER, THE GENTRIFYING APARTMENTS, LIKE THE, UH, LIKE THE COLONY, WHICH COSTS A MINIMUM OF $2,000 A MONTH BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE WEST COVINA I GREW UP IN.
WE ARE NOT THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE GONE ALONG WITH THE SHAMEFUL INITIATIVE.
WE ARE NOT GLENDORA OR BEVERLY HILLS.
AND I SAY THAT IN THE BEST LIGHT POSSIBLE, THIS WOULD USUALLY BE THE PART WHERE I APPEAL TO YOUR EMPATHY.
HOWEVER, THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY LACK THAT THEY HAVE ABDICATED ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION.
I EXPECTED THAT MAYOR PRO TEM LOPEZ, AS MY REPRESENTATIVE, WOULD HAVE MORE EMPATHY AS SHE HAD AT ONE POINT EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS.
HOWEVER, IT SEEMS MAYOR PRO TEM THAT AS SOON AS YOU CLIMBED OUT OF THAT EXPERIENCE, YOU WANT TO KICK DOWN THE LADDER SO THAT NO ONE ELSE CAN DO WHAT YOU DID.
THIS INITIATIVE HIDES BEHIND THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE PROTECTING LOCAL CONTROL, BUT YOU'RE IGNORING THE FACT THAT THE THOUSANDS OF MEDICINES AND AS WELL AS MYSELF IN WEST COVINA VOTED FOR ASSEMBLYMAN RUBIO.
I MEAN ASSEMBLYWOMAN RUBIO AND SENATOR RUBIO, BOTH OF WHOM VOTED IN FAVOR OF INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN WEST COVINA AND ACROSS THE STATE.
THIS BILL WAS OUR WILL DO NOT PRETEND TO BE REPRESENTING US HERE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK VILLANOVA FOLLOWED BY STEVE.
I AM A NEW RESIDENT IN WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA AS OF AUGUST, 2018.
THIS IS MY DAUGHTER, MADISON VILLANUEVA.
AND, UH, WHAT I HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT TODAY IS REALLY JUST, UH, SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HOPE, UH, GIVES POSITIVITY AND, YOU KNOW, SOME HOPE FOR THE CITY OF CALIFORNIA AS WELL.
THE STATE, UH, MY DAUGHTER WAS RECENTLY, UH, COMPETING IN A PAGEANT FOR NATIONAL AMERICAN MISS AND SHE WON, UH, LAST YEAR.
SHE WAS THE, UH, SHE WON TOP 10 AND WAS REPRESENTING THE CITY OF WEST COVINA THIS YEAR.
SHE IS ACTUALLY REPRESENTING THE STATE AND FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, SHE WILL BE REPRESENTING CALIFORNIA, UH, IN FLORIDA, IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA AGAINST, UH, SEVERAL OTHER QUEENS WHO HAVE JUST WORKED VERY HARD FOR THIS.
AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO, I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP AND KIND OF INTRODUCE HER TO EVERYONE.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STAY ACTIVE AND, UH, HELP WITH, UH, ANY LOCAL ISSUES.
AND, UH, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS A GOOD UPBRINGING AND SHE ALSO STAYS ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AT THIS POINT, I MAKE SURE THAT SHE DOES VOLUNTEER WORK, ESPECIALLY AT SHEPHERD'S FOOD PANTRY, WHERE SHE, UH, HELPS PACK FOOD AND DELIVER THEM TO THE LESS FORTUNATE AND DISABLED AND SENIORS AND, UH, PRETTY MUCH, UH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE CAN STAY ACTIVE AND
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KNOW ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THE COMMUNITY, KNOW ALL THE FACES AND THAT SHE, SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO STAY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.SO THIS IS WHY I DECIDED TO BRING HER TO THIS, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, EXCUSE ME, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.
IT'S KIND OF MY FIRST TIME UP HERE AND, UH, YEAH, THAT THAT'S ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, UH, I'D LIKE FOR HER TO GET INVOLVED IN ANY KIND OF CITY EVENTS WHERE WE'D LIKE TO EXUDE ANY KIND OF, OR EXEMPLIFY ANY KIND OF POSITIVITY OR, YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO SMILE AT.
UH, AND UH, I WANT TO INVITE YOU TO COME BACK IN NOVEMBER 17 AND THE CT, WE WILL PRESENT A CERTIFICATE TO PRESENT TO YOU, A DELTA FOR ACHIEVEMENT.
AND I THINK SHE CAN SAY SOMETHING THAT TIME.
SO, UH, ARE YOU WILL, YOU WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE NOVEMBER 17.
AND WE CAN ARRANGE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU, BRING YOUR DAUGHTER BACK AND WE WANT A YOUNGSTER UNDERSTAND A DOUBT.
WE CARE ABOUT OUR CHILDREN AND THEY ARE OUR FUTURE.
SO IS THAT OKAY? YOU WANTED TO COME BACK NOVEMBER 17.
WE WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE DAY AFTER WE WILL BE, UH, LEAVING FOR FLORIDA.
AND YOU GIVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION TO
YOU GOT GOTTA ALREADY, INCLUDING THE EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER.
WE WILL MAKE A CONTACT AND WE WILL PRESENT A CERTIFICATE AND A, WE WANT TO HAVE OUR PROUD YARNS TO, TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WE CARE ABOUT DANNY.
OKAY, MATT, MATT, I'M GOING TO SEE YOU NOVEMBER 17.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A CERTIFICATE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEVE BENNETT FOLLOWED BY MINERVA.
STEVE BENNETT WAS COMING A RESIDENT THAT'S VERY CLOSE TONIGHT.
UM, MR. MAYOR, STAFF COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM ME A LITTLE LATER AS WELL, BUT I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS RIGHT NOW.
UM, TONIGHT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, EITHER RESCINDING RESTRICTING OR MODIFYING THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY POWERS OF THE CITY MANAGER.
CURRENTLY THERE'S TWO EMERGENCIES.
I BELIEVE THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS.
UH, ONE OF THESE IS THE COVERT EMERGENCY, WHICH WAS DONE BACK IN MARCH OR APRIL.
THEN YOU HAVE THE FISCAL EMERGENCY, WHICH WAS DONE IN MAY.
UM, BOTH OF THESE GIVE EXTREME AMOUNTS OF POWER TO THE CITY MANAGER.
UH, AND I THINK THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS MORE OF A SALES PITCH TO KEEP HIM HAVING THOSE POWER IS VERY INTERESTING.
I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE UP THEIR ABILITIES TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, UH, VARIOUS TOPICS THAT COME UP AND ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER, SOME UNILATERAL CONTROLS, UM, IN RELATION TO VARIOUS TOPICS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN.
AND I BROUGHT IT UP DURING THE CANDIDATE FORUM THAT HE SENT AN EMAIL BACK IN JUNE SAYING THAT HE WAS WILLING TO SIGN A CONTRACT FOR LA COUNTY FIRE SERVICES, UM, ON JULY ONE AND THAT HE WAS LOBBYING HILDA SELISE AND HER OFFICE TO ALLOW HIM TO DO THAT WITHOUT IT GOING THROUGH LAFCO.
AND WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS AT, UM, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THAT IS AN EGREGIOUS ABUSE OF POWER.
AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO DO THAT, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE NOT REIGNED IN THOSE POWERS BACK IS AMAZING.
EVEN BIGGER ISSUE IS UNDER THOSE POWERS.
HE HAS THE ABILITY TO RENEGOTIATE AND FORCING NEGOTIATIONS WITH SOME OF OUR UNION CONTRACTS.
AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU GUYS APPROVED 12% RAISES FOR ABOUT 2.4 MILLION, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO POLICE AND FIRE UNIONS.
BACK IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER OF 19 MONEY, THAT WE COULDN'T AFFORD MONEY, THAT RESIDENTS TOLD YOU WE COULDN'T AFFORD, BUT THE CITY MANAGER SAID HE'LL FIND IT THROUGH ECONOMIC WAYS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE DEFICIT SPENDING AGAIN, AND THOSE UNIONS, THOSE EMPLOYEE BARGAINING UNITS HAVE GIVEN BACK VERY LITTLE.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK HE HAS UTILIZED HIS POWER IN AN AREA THAT HE SHOULD HAVE UTILIZED HIS POWER.
THOSE TWO EMPLOYEE BARGAINING UNITS HAVE GIVEN SO LITTLE BACK OF WHAT THEY WERE GIVEN TO BY YOU GUYS, THAT NOW YOU'VE WENT TO OTHER EMPLOYEE BARGAINING UNITS WHO DIDN'T GET ANYTHING AND TOLD THEM TO GIVE YOU MONEY BACK.
AND HIS UNILATERAL CONTROL OR UNILATERAL ABILITY IS NOT BEING UTILIZED IN THE PROPER WAY.
AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE AGAIN, THAT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE UP
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THE RIGHTS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS YOU ARE ELECTED TO BE HERE.FOUR OF YOU WERE ELECTED TO BE HERE AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BY THE PEOPLE, WHETHER I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH YOUR DECISION, YOU WERE STILL ELECTED TO THAT SEAT.
AND SO YOU WERE THE ONE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
AND I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO RESEND BOTH EMERGENCY POWERS OR AT LEAST HEAVILY RESTRICT AGAIN, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, I UNDERSTAND THE COVID ONE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET FEMA DOLLARS.
THERE'S PROBABLY SOME RESTRICTIONS WE CAN PUT ON HIS, BUT THE FISCAL EMERGENCY WE'VE BEEN OPERATING BROKE FOR YEARS.
AND NOW WE REFINANCED AND GOT $10 MILLION BACK IN OUR RAINY DAY FUND, AS HE SAID, WE'RE BACK TO BROKE.
SO WHY ARE WE STILL IN A FISCAL EMERGENCY? WE SHOULD BE BACK TO NORMAL, MAYBE NOT SPENDING, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN CONTROL THAT.
BUT THAT IS WHERE I STAND ON THAT.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS LATER ON ALCOHOL, TAKE CARE.
LISA SHERRICK IS YOUR SPEAK IN ITEM ON THE PUBLIC HEARING OR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEM 14 ON THE PUBLIC.
WE'RE GOING TO PLACE YOU BACK ON HOLD.
AND WHEN WE GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, I WILL ASK YOU TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME.
FRANCIS, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF FRANCIS? THIS IS ASSISTANT FRANCIS.
CAN YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT YOUR ITEM IS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ON? UM, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ORDINANCE CHANGE FOR GAS STATIONS, I BELIEVE WITH AGENDA ITEM 14.
I'M GOING TO PUT YOU BACK ON MUTE AND WHEN WE GET TO ITEM NUMBER 14, I WILL ASK YOU TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME.
AND THAT'S ALL THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.
ANY ODS IN POSEN? ONE TO SPEAK AND NOTHING.
PLEASE WAIT FOR THE PUPPY HEARING.
AND ONE SUGGESTION IS JUST CITY MANAGER.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS I WAS WONDERING WHY CITY COUNCILMEN, MR. COSTA YANO FELT THE NEED TO HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION REGARDING THIS DECLARATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ATTORNEY AND NOT DO IT PUBLICLY.
MY SECOND QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH MS. SCHUMAKER'S REQUEST FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE PROOF OF THE NEED FOR THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION.
SO MY QUESTION TO YOU MA'AM IS, WAS THAT SATISFIED AND WAS IT PUBLIC? AND I JUST MISSED IT.
I'M WONDERING SINCE YOU ANNOUNCED AND I WANT A DOG AND YOU ANNOUNCED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BECOME KNOCKING, HAVE THEY THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE DOING IT AS THEY DID PREVIOUSLY? AND THAT IS HOLD A REGISTRATION DAY AT THE PARK.
IT WAS QUITE A TURNOUT SUCCESSFUL, UH, CONVENIENT FOR, SO CERTAINLY THE OLDER FOLKS AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL.
SO I THINK THAT MAYBE IF YOU CAN REACH OUT TO, UH, THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND HOPEFULLY ARRANGE THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL APPRECIATE IT.
AND THEN WOULD YOU PLEASE PUT A FEEL OUT YELLOW CALL? YEAH.
I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA FOR 20 YEARS.
I'M A REGISTERED NURSE AND A GRADUATE OF AZUSA PACIFIC UNIVERSITY.
THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY, TO ME, PHYSICAL HEALTH, EMOTIONAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH.
WHEN OUR HEALTH SUFFERS, WE ARE UNABLE TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY TO BECOME OUR BEST SELVES.
WHEN WE ARE EMOTIONALLY DISTRAUGHT, WE CANNOT BE THERE A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR OUR FAMILIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS WHY I SERVED ON THE EAST VALLEY COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER BOARD FROM 2008 TO 20 1212.
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I AM REACHING OUT ON BEHALF OF 142 RESIDENTS OF THE MONTERA POINT AND SOUTH HILLS TO HOA CONDOMINIUMS IN WEST COVINA.I AM REACHING OUT FOR EMPATHY, COMFORT, AND SUPPORT IN ADDRESSING A FAMILY IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS VERY UNHEALTHY.
THIS FAMILY NOT ONLY HAS CONFLICTS WITHIN ITS OWN UNIT, BUT THIS FAMILY STRIKES OUT AT ANYONE THAT CROSSES THEIR PATH.
SINCE 2016, WE HAVE BEEN THE VICTIMS OF A CONTINUOUS AND ESCALATING COURSE OF CONDUCT THAT WE FEEL CONSTITUTE RACE-BASED ANTI-IMMIGRANT ETHNIC AND GENDER BASED DISCRIMINATION.
WE HAVE TAKEN OUR COMPLAINTS TO BOTH OF OUR HOS MONTERRA POINT AND SOUTH HILLS TO SHARE CARE THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY FOR MONTERRA POINT CMS, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR SOUTH HILLS, THE WEST COVINA POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPERIOR COURT, JUDGE JOHN SLAWSON AND MAYOR TONY WOO.
DIRECTED ME BACK TO THE WEST COVINA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THUS FAR, NONE OF THESE ENTITIES OR INSTITUTIONS HAVE BEEN WILLING OR CAPABLE OF STOPPING THE COURSE OF CONDUCT THAT IS CAUSING SUBSTANTIAL EMOTIONAL DISTRESS.
AND THE SENSE OF DREAD AND TERROR IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE INABILITY OF THE WEST COULD BE IN WEST COVINA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO EXTINGUISH THE SHOEMAKER FAMILIES, VICIOUS, VILE ACTS AS ONLY EMBOLDENED.
THIS FAMILY'S ATTACKS ON US 24 SEVEN, WE ARE SUBJECT TO ANNOYANCE HARASSMENT, PROPERTY DAMAGE, LOUD MUSIC, VIOLENCE, THREATS OF VIOLENCE.
THE WEST COULD BE IN A POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS GIVEN US 11 PAGES OF OVER 75 CALLS FROM RESIDENTS TO THE WEST COVINA POLICE DEPARTMENT BETWEEN JANUARY 21ST, 2020 AND OCTOBER 7TH, 2020 REPORTS OF HARASSMENT, BULLYING INTIMIDATION BASED ON OUR RESIDENTS, RACIAL, ETHNIC RELIGIOUS GENDER PREFERENCE AND IMMIGRANT STATUS.
THE CALL LOG IS EVIDENCE OF A CONDUCT OF BEHAVIOR THAT ALARMS AND DISTRESSES US.
THE FEELING THAT THEIR BEHAVIOR TRIGGERS IN ME IS ONE THAT I EXPERIENCED THREE DECADES AGO, STUDYING AT AN INTERNATIONAL COLLEGE IN 1979.
I RECALL A BIZARRE ENCOUNTER WITH AN ENGLISHMAN.
WE WERE SITTING AT A BAR TALKING TO MY FRIENDS FROM IRAN AND SAUDI ARABIA.
WHEN THIS REZ RED FACE, MAN SPIT ON ME AND SHOUTED.
WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY A FEW MONTHS AFTER THAT, MY FRIENDS AND I WERE STROLLING DOWN THE COBBLESTONE LANE TOWARDS THE INTERNATIONAL STUDENT CENTER.
WHEN A MOB OF NATIONAL FRONT WHITE SUPREMIST CHANTING GET OUT, STARTED CHASING US.
MY HEART WAS BEATING OUT OF MY CHEST FAST FORWARD TO 2020.
AND WHAT DO WE HEAR AGAIN FROM THIS SICK FAMILY? GET OUT OF THE POOL.
ASIANS, GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY.
WE'RE CALLING IMMIGRATION ON YOU, WETBACKS YOU DIRTY.
BEANERS GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY, GET OUT OF YOUR GAZE, NO FAGGOTS HERE.
AND YOU KNOW, ON A SINGLE WOMAN'S DOOR, WEARING A MASK YELLING, I'M GOING TO KILL YOU.
YOU BLANK WETBACK, GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY, GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY.
WE'RE GOING TO LET OUR DOGS OUT ON YOU.
OUR DOGS ARE GOING TO BITE YOU 75 CALLS TO THE WEST COVINA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THE RESULT IS ONLY AN ESCALATION IN THE HATE LANGUAGE AND THE HATE VIOLENCE ON OCTOBER 1ST, TWO ASIAN WOMEN WITH THEIR SIX YEAR OLD CHILD WERE VICTIMS OF THE SHOEMAKER'S TWO BISHOPS DOGS LED OFF LEASH, BUT IN ONE WOMAN IN THE HAND AND BACK AND SERIOUSLY INJURING HER DOG WITH BITE WOUNDS ON ITS ABDOMEN ON BOTH SIDES OF ITS TORSO.
THE VET BILL WAS $1,300 AND CONTINUES TO ESCALATE THE POLICE.
TELL US, CALL YOUR HOA MINDY CAPELLO OF SHARECARE.
THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY WROTE.
DID THE POLICE EXPLAIN HOW THREATS DOG ATTACKS THROWING ROCKS THROUGH WINDOWS? BREAKING WINDOWS ARE NOT CRIMES.
2020 IS FULL OF SURPRISES, I GUESS WHO ENDED UP FOR 10 SECONDS? WOULD YOU PLEASE? FIVE MINUTES.
EVERYBODY HAVE FIVE MINUTES ENJOYED IT.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING THE WEST COVINA CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS AN INITIATIVE TO START A HUMAN RELATIONS COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS THIS FAMILY.
I DON'T THINK THE WEST COULD BE IN A POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR SOCIAL WORKERS, PSYCHIATRIST, OR PSYCHOLOGIST.
WE NEED TO REACH OUT AND DEVELOP A COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS THIS FAMILY THAT IS TERRORIZING US.
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OKAY.UH, ANY OTHER RESIDENT WANT TO ADDRESS TO COUNCIL? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE OVER COMMUNICATION.
DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND SOME OF THE ISSUE? OKAY.
AND THE WISDOM THEY JUST RAISED.
UH, WE GOT IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY AND ABOUT YOUR POWER.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN ABOUT WHAT KIND OF POWER YOU HAVE? OKAY.
AND WHY IS THE BENEFIT FOR THE CT FOR YOU? AND LAST TIME, LAST MEETING, I THINK I WILL EXPLAIN, WE NEED SOME OF THE SWEEP REACTION TO DEAL WITH THE PANDEMIC TO COINCIDENCE.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE SPEAKERS, UM, ESPECIALLY ON THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE RESOLUTION.
THE COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER TONIGHT ON YOUR CONSENT CALENDAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH WOULD DETERMINE THE NEED TO FURTHER CONTINUE THE LOCAL EMERGENCY.
JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT.
UM, LAST WEEK I WAS ASKED TO BE A SPEAKER AT A CONFERENCE OF OUR OWN CALIFORNIA JOINT POWERS, INSURANCE AUTHORITY ON A NUMBER OF THESE TOPICS.
AND IT WAS REALLY A PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT OUR CITY AT THAT CONFERENCE IN ON THESE TOPICS.
AND I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAID THAT I THINK ARE GERMANE TO THIS QUESTION.
UM, WEST COBAIN IS A CITY WITH MANY PROUD TRADITIONS AND OVER ITS HISTORY, A VERY SOLID RECORD OF CIVIC ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TOUTED TO THE ATTENDEES AT THIS MEETING WAS THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF COMMUNITY WHERE RESIDENTS ARE CIVICALLY ENGAGED AND EXPECT TO GET GREAT MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
SO THE REASON THEY ASKED ME TO SPEAK IS BECAUSE I THINK A WEST COVINA HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF MANAGING ITSELF AND CONDUCTING ITS BUSINESS, UH, DURING THIS PANDEMIC, WHICH IS NOT TO SAY WE'VE DONE ANYTHING, RIGHT? IN FACT, WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT SOME LESSONS LEARNED.
THERE ARE A COUPLE POINTS THAT I WANT TO JUST SHARE.
FIRST, THE MOST AMAZING THING ABOUT THIS FIELD OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH THINGS WHICH ARE KNOWN BEST PRACTICES IN THE LITERATURE AREN'T FOLLOWED.
THE LITERATURE TELLS US CLEARLY THAT DISASTERS ARE BY DEFINITION, COME AS YOU ARE PARTIES.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THAT UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, BUT REGARDING THIS DISASTER DECLARATION TONIGHT, I'M FOLLOWING COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
AND IN RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE ADDED SOME LANGUAGE TO THAT DECLARATION TO MAKE IT MORE EXPRESSLY CLEAR WHAT THOSE POWERS ARE DURING A LOCAL EMERGENCY.
THE THING GOES ON FOR THREE OR FOUR PAGES, BUT I JUST WANT TO READ THE SECTION THAT WAS ADDED SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHILE THE LOCAL DISASTER EMERGENCY REMAINS IN EFFECT, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL LIMIT THE EXERCISE OF THE POWERS GRANTED TO THE CITY MANAGER, AS THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DURING A PROCLAIMED LOCAL EMERGENCY PURSUANT TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE, TWO ACTIONS DIRECTLY RELATED TO RESPONDING TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
AND THIS IS THE RESPONSE TO THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GAVE.
MOST OF THE SPEAKERS WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 14.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OH, YOU SEND AN EMAIL REGARDING THE COUNTY THING.
I THINK PEOPLE NEED NO THAT'S NEED COUNCIL APPROVAL.
AND THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T HAVE A RIDE TO GO TO THE COUNTY.
SO YOU WANT TO MAYBE ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT, UM, WELL, IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO REMAIN ELIGIBLE, TO RECEIVE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS AND AID, IN FACT, THERE WAS A NEW GRANT THAT JUST WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPETITIVE FOR, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISASTER DECLARATION AND REPLACE, AND WE'VE BEEN GOING AFTER GRANTS AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY'RE PRESENTED TO US, UM, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, UM, QUARANTINE TRAILERS.
WE ACTUALLY AVAILED OURSELVES OF THE TRAILERS THAT WERE GIVEN US WHEN OUR, UM, ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES NEEDED A PLACE TO QUARANTINE.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S BEEN OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY TO HAVE THOSE POWERS IN PLACE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND AS WITH ALL THE OTHER CITIES IN OUR DISASTER AREA, THAT, THAT THIS BE CONTINUED UNTIL STATEWIDE THIS, UM, GOVERNOR'S PROCLAMATION CONCLUDES.
THE OTHER ONE I WANTED TO RESPOND TO WAS, UM, J D S COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, DOG LICENSES AND SERVICES AT THE PARK.
WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH HIM ABOUT SOME OF THAT AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT ON A DRIVE UP WINDOW BASIS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, VIOLATING SOCIAL DISTANCING, ET CETERA.
I TAKE YOUR POINT ABOUT THE MASS.
AND SO MY QUESTION REGARDING STATE PANEL, MR. STEVE BANNON TALKING ABOUT THE EMAIL THAT YOU SEND TO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYTHING REGARDING, OKAY.
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THAT WILL LET EVERYBODY KNOW.THEY ALL HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE OR DENIAL.
ABOUT THE COUNTY AND THEN THEY WERE STILL WAITING FOR THEIR NUMBER.
SO MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO US, WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EMAIL? I DON'T RECEIVE ANY EMAIL WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR AHEAD.
THE PROCESS OF CONSIDERATION FOR, UM, CONTRACTING WITH THE COUNTY FOR FIRE SERVICE IS LENGTHY AND COMPLICATED.
ONE OF THE REQUIRED STEPS WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION THROUGH THE LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION COMMISSION, WHICH IS A GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION BODY THAT REGULATES THESE KINDS OF THINGS IN THE COUNTY.
I DON'T REMEMBER A SPECIFIC EMAIL WHERE A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE AT ALL UNUSUAL.
WE DID HAVE A STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF THAT BODY THAT WAS SHARED PUBLICLY.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH ANYONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN IT.
UM, THAT CONTRACT IS PENDING ANALYSIS, WHICH IS CONTINUING THIS AFTERNOON.
WE HAD ANOTHER TWO HOUR MEETING ABOUT OUR DEFICIENCIES IN THE FIRE STATION, PHYSICALLY AT YOUR MEETING, COUPLE OF MEETINGS BACK, DO YOU APPROVE SOME POWER PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT? BUT THEN WE ALSO KNOW WE'VE GOT SUBSTANDARD CONDITIONS WITH THE PHYSICAL BUILDINGS THAT WE RUN OUT OF.
AND SO THAT'S ON ITS WAY BACK TO YOU.
UH, I THINK THE WEDNESDAYS, YOU UNDERSTAND.
AND THE CT MANAGER HAS NO RIGHT TO DECIDE.
SO THERE'S ABOUT FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WELL, FIRST THE COUNTY, IF THEY HAVE ANY COUNTY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE NUMBER COUNTY, HAD TO DO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, TALK TO THE RESIDENT SHOW ABOUT HOW MUCH SAVING OUR SERVICE TO EASE ANY OF THE DOUBT.
SO EVERYTHING WILL GO TO THE RESIDENT AND LATER ON GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO CITY MANAGER HAS NO RIGHT TO DECIDE OUT THIS BIG ISSUE OR THIS ISSUE.
WE'LL BRING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE RESIDENT.
AND I'LL PULL IT TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHAT IS OUR NEXT MOVE, BUT ANYTHING, WHAT IS CITY MANAGER OR OKAY.
THEN WE OPEN TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBER WITH ALL THE OPTION, IF THE NUMBER IS NOT THERE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO EVERYTHING'S STILL, SO THE CITY MANAGER, I DON'T THINK HE OKAY.
HE HE'D BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30 YEARS.
I THINK HE UNDERSTAND CLEARLY WHAT IS YOUR POWER? OKAY.
COUNCILMAN, CASIANO JUST WANTED TO RESPOND, UH, THROUGH THE CHAIR AND ALSO ASK OUR CITY MANAGER AND ATTORNEY FOR J D HIS QUESTION ABOUT THE EMERGENCY POWER DECLARATION.
I HAD MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IT.
UH, SO I'LL ASK THE, UH, CITY MANAGER AND ATTORNEY, IF IT'S NORMAL AND PRUDENT FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT PROS AND CONS OR ANY, UH, AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE THE MEETING, I'LL SPEAK AND THEN INVITE THE ATTORNEY TO SPEAK AS WELL.
IT'S ENTIRELY REASONABLE AND I'M WELCOMED AND EXPECTED.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY RESIDENT THAT HAS A QUESTION, OR CERTAINLY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT HAS A QUESTION ABOUT PENDING AGENDA, BUSINESS, OR BUSINESS OF THE CITY TO ASK OF THE TEAM THAT'S HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.
THANK YOU, DAVE AND TOM, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
SHE'LL MAKE HER, UM, JEFFERSON, UM, BASICALLY, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, THERE WE GO.
UM, MY CONCERN WAS ASSUAGED BY THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL AGREED TO BRING BACK THE DECLARATION TO LIMIT THE POWERS.
SO THERE WAS, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED AS IT KEEPS US IN PLACE TO GET FUNDING FOR ONGOING COVID SUPPLIES, MATERIALS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND BY LIMITING THE POWER, WE ARE THE POWER BACK TO THE COUNCIL.
SO INSTEAD OF, UM, NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS UNDER THE FISCAL EMERGENCY AND SAYING, WE'RE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THIS BECAUSE OF THIS REASON, NOW HE CAN NEGOTIATE, BUT IT CAN'T BE IMPLEMENTED.
AND THEN WE RATIFY IT COMES TO US FIRST.
SO, UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT THE EXACT ANSWER YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT MY CONCERN WAS ADDRESSED AND THAT
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AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT THING I WANT TO ADDRESS IS, UM, ACCUSATIONS BY MY NEIGHBOR.AND I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO ADDRESS THIS PUBLICLY BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE MATTER.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S AN ISSUE OF HARASSMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE INTERESTING.
LET'S GO THROUGH THE LOGIC HERE, COMPLAINTS TO THE HOA.
THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING COMPLAINTS TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THEY SUPPOSEDLY DON'T DO ANYTHING, GOES TO COURT TO GET A RESTRAINING ORDER.
THE COURT SAYS, NO, WHAT'S THE COMMON THREAD THERE, THE COMPLAINING PARTY.
SO IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT APPARENTLY WE ARE SO POWERFUL THAT EVEN THE COURTS DON'T WANT TO TOUCH US, THINK ABOUT IT AS FOR THE ACCUSATIONS OF RACISM.
I FIND THAT TO BE THE MOST INSULTING THING OF ALL, BECAUSE WHAT SHE'S DOING IS LOOKING AT ME AND SAYING, SHE'S A WHITE PERSON.
SHE CALLS MY FAMILY, WHITE, WHITE, TRASH, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THE SIMPLE FACT IS WE ARE MANY THINGS.
MY DAD'S SIDE OF THE FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE SINCE IT WAS PART OF MEXICO.
MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS BORN IN MEXICO CITY.
SO ACCUSATIONS OF RACISM AGAINST MY OWN BACKGROUND IS JUST IDIOTIC.
I SIT ON A COUNCIL AND WAS APPOINTED BY MEMBERS OF MINORITY CLASSES, MY NIECES AND NEPHEWS, WHO SHE SAYS ARE RACIST AGAINST ASIANS.
ONE NEPHEW THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IS TAKING MANDARIN IN SCHOOL AND HAS ACTUALLY PRACTICED WITH MAYOR WOO, WHO COMPLIMENTED HIM ON HIS ACCENT.
THEY ARE ALSO ASIAN THEMSELVES FROM THEIR DAD'S SIDE OF THE FAMILY.
SO AGAIN, OUR FAMILY, YOU KNOW, MUST BE SO FULL OF SELF HATE THAT WE ARE DISCRIMINATORY AND RACIST TOWARDS OURSELVES.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A WOMAN WHO CALLS THE COPS.
IF MY NIECES AND NEPHEWS ARE RIDING THEIR BIKES ON OUR STREET, A STREET, SHE DOESN'T LIVE ON, SHE CALLS IF THEY ARE PLAYING IN THE HILLS, UH, AROUND OUR COMPLEX, SHE CALLS IF THEY ARE IN THEIR SWIMMING POOL, SHE CALLS IF THEY ARE RIDING THEIR BIKES OR SCOOTERS DOWN THE HILL TO PICK UP DONUTS OR GO TO TACO BELL OR TO GO TO TOKYO CENTRAL.
AND I REALLY, REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO POLLUTES THIS AGENCY WITH THIS, BUT AT SOME POINT, IF I DON'T STAND UP FOR MYSELF, WHO WILL, OKAY.
UH, CONSOLE MEMBERS SHOULD MAKE A, CAN WE NEED TO MOVE ON REAL QUICKLY AND FOR, UH, JUST A QUICK COMMENT FOR OUR FIRST SPEAKER, I THINK, UM, ITEM SIX, I THINK THERE MAY BE A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THAT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER OR ANY OF THE TOPICS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, PLEASE SEND ME AN EMAIL AND WE COULD CONNECT AND I COULD DISCUSS IT WITH YOU.
[CONSENT CALENDAR (Part 1 of 2)]
ON CONSENT CALENDAR ONE TO 17 AND THE MEMBER ONE TO POOL, WHICH ONE? UH, OKAY.YOU ARE NOT THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND THIS MAYOR, I THINK HE'S TRYING TO INTERRUPT BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE SKIPPED OVER THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.
DID THEY MANAGE YOUR REPORT WOULD BE APT TO CAUSE WAS IT WAS SO BRIEFING THAT YOU MISSED IT? WE HAVE IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO PULL SOMETHING OFF THE CONSECUTIVE.
THEN I GO TO THE CITY MANAGER REPORT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAPPENED LAST WEEK.
SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T GIVE YOU A REPORT FOR A WEEK.
WHO WANT TO PULL ANYTHING? AYE.
AND THEN ANYTHING FROM YOU? NUMBER 10.
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TO PULL NUMBER SIX.AND I KNOW CITY MANAGER WANTS TO PUT NUMBER FOUR.
SO I ALREADY KNOW WE, YOU LIKE A BOOK.
[CITY MANAGER'S REPORT]
MANAGER REPORT.JUST A COUPLE OF BRIEF THINGS TO SHARE THIS EVENING.
UM, MARIN COUNCIL AT YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU APPROVED A PACKAGE OF MEASURES THAT WILL SAVE THE CITY MONEY ON ITS POWER BILL.
AND OUT OF THAT SAVINGS, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
A COUPLE OF ROOFS FROM SOLAR PANELS, HPAC SYSTEMS, LIGHT BULBS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
YOU DIRECTED ME TO SHOP FOR FINANCING AND WE'VE DONE.
SO WE WORKED WITH A LOCAL BANK WHO WAS UNABLE TO MATCH THE RATE, WHICH WAS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THAT WAS 4.15% FOR 20 YEARS.
UM, WE HAD A COUPLE OF BANKS, INCLUDING WELLS FARGO WHO HANDLES OUR DEMAND DEPOSIT ACCOUNT, UM, DECLINE THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, IT'S VERY SPECIALIZED KIND OF ALONE.
THE BEST RATE I WAS ABLE TO FIND WAS, UM, BANK OF AMERICA HAS AN ENERGY SERVICES GROUP BASED IN CINCINNATI, OHIO.
AND THEY WERE ABLE TO QUOTE ME, UM, 16 AND A HALF YEARS.
AT 2.3% OF THOSE RATES ARE CLIMBING.
I TALKED TO THAT BANKER TODAY AND IT'S 2.34, BUT I'M IN CONVERSATION WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR OF WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND A COUNCIL THAT WE, UM, SELL FINANCE THAT CITY FINANCES HAVE IMPROVED AND RATHER THAN PAY ANY INTEREST, WE THINK WE COULD DO IT JUST BY PAYING FOR IT OUT OF, OUT OF CITY FUNDS.
THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME COUNCIL ACTION, WHICH I'LL PLACE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA, BUT I WANT TO KEEP YOU APPRISED.
WE'RE ANXIOUS TO ISSUE A NOTICE TO PROCEED, BUT WE WANT TO GET THE FINANCING LINED UP.
AND EVEN THOUGH 2.3% WAS LUCRATIVE.
IT PAINS US TO PAY ANY INTEREST WE CAN AVOID.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THE, WITH THAT OUR SENIOR MEALS PROGRAM, UM, WE GOT AN ADDITIONAL GRANT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE UP TO, UM, PROVIDING MEALS THAT WOULD BE EATEN NOT BUT NOT DELIVERED, UM, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
AND SO THAT PROGRAM IS MOVING ALONG VERY WELL.
WE HAVE MOVED OR REMAIN IN WHAT LA COUNTY CLASSIFIES AS A PURPLE TIER.
WE KEEP GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THIS CERTAIN KIND OF BUSINESS CAN OPEN OR CAN'T OPEN.
UM, FOR A SMALL EXAMPLE, WE HAD TO CURTAIL THE BOUNCE HOUSE AT THE PUMPKIN PATCH, WHICH WAS PARKED IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE PLAZA WEST COVINA.
WE THOUGHT BECAUSE PLAYGROUNDS WERE ELIGIBLE THAT THAT AS A PRIVATE PLAYGROUND WOULD ALSO BE ELIGIBLE, BUT THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS QUITE STRICT AND THEY HAD TO TAKE THAT DOWN.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAY ON TOP OF THIS AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, UM, WEAR MASKS AND BE SOCIALLY DISTANCED AND ALL THOSE USUAL THINGS EVERYBODY'S BEEN HEARING FOR MONTHS.
NOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN EVENT AT PLAZA WEST.
WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF DOING IT IN THE PARK OR HAVING TWO EVENTS.
WE DECIDED TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES.
WE DO IT AS A DRIVE THROUGH AT THE, AT THE MALL.
AND SO THAT IS GOING TO BE FROM FIVE TO 7:00 PM ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30TH.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT THIS EVENING.
UH, AND, UH, MAYBE SHE'LL ANNOUNCE OUR OKAY.
UH, WISCO PLAZA ALWAYS CALLED ME AND IT'S OPEN.
AND, UH, AND I, I POSTED ALL THE PICTURES.
AND A LOT OF SHARPER OVER THERE WILL MASK AND WAIT IN THE LINE.
AND I THINK WE NEED IT ALL TO HELP FOR THOSE BUSINESSES.
WELL, I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
I HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS, UM, ASK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THEY PLANNING FOR FOR THIS EVENT? BECAUSE, UM, IN YEARS PAST IT'S BEEN POPULAR TO GO TRICK OR TREATING AT THE MALL.
AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY RUN OUT OF CANDY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO, UH, PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW BASICALLY HOW SOON THEY NEED TO GET THERE.
AND WILL THERE BE ENOUGH SUPPLIES? I UNDERSTAND.
YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION NOW, BUT LET ME PUT THAT ON MY IOU LIST IF I MAY.
[CONSENT CALENDAR (Part 2 of 2)]
UH, WE GOING TO, UH, OKAY.SO WE HAVE A ONE, TWO, THREE, AND A NUMBER.
AND THEN, UH, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT FIVE SIX SEVEN EIGHT ONE TWO THREE.
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NUMBER SIX POOL.AND UH, YOU PUT NUMBER NINE AND THE 11, RIGHT? OKAY.
DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE EXCEPT, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
REMOVE REMOVING ITEMS. NUMBER SIX, NINE, 10, AND 11 FROM CONSENTS OF A ONE, TWO, THREE.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
LET ME, LET ME DO MY JOB, PLEASE.
UH, MY OPPONENT WANTS TO PULL NUMBER NINE AND 11 SIX, NINE 11.
SO ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE, SIX, EIGHT.
I ASKED HIM REMOVED AND YOU REMOVE, YOU WANT TO PULL 10? OKAY.
UH, WHO ARE GOING TO MOVE TO MOTION FOR AGENDA? ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE, SEVEN, EIGHT, AND TOUGH AND NUMBER.
AND WHO GONNA MOVE THE MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
I KNOW WHO CAN SECOND I'LL SECOND.
UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON COUNCILMAN CASIANO AND, UH, WE HAVE A SECOND BY MAIL PROTEIN LOPEZ.
WE NEED TO INCLUDE ITEM NUMBER 13 ALSO.
THERE WILL BE INCLUDED NUMBER 13.
NO, ON FIVE, ON SOME MEMBER SHOEMAKER, I MAY APPROACH TIM LOPEZ VETO MAYOR.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE ZERO BESIDE THE NUMBER FIVE IS FOUR ONE.
AND THEN WE GO TO THE FIRST POOL NUMBER SIX.
I MAKE A MOTION OR A SUGGESTION THAT SINCE WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING IN THE AUDIENCE AND PEOPLE WAITING ON THE PHONE THAT WE MOVED THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR NUMBER 14 UP NOW AND HANDLE THE OTHER ITEMS AFTER IT.
UH, WE CAN DO THAT IF THE COUNCIL APPROVED.
ANY OBJECTION FOR LESS SO WE CAN MOVE NUMBER 14 FIRST.
UH, SO WE CAN SAY THE TIME PEOPLE OVER HERE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT.
[14) PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CODE AMENDMENT NO. 20-07 TO ALLOW AND REGULATE OFF-SALE (RETAIL SALES FOR OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION) OF BEER AND WINE AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO A SERVICE STATION]
OKAY.NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE NUMBER 14.
NUMBER 14, CONSIDERATION OF A CODE AMENDMENT, NUMBER 20 TESTS THERE ZERO SEVEN TO ALLOW AND THE REGULATE OF SELL RETAIL, SELL FOR OFFSITE CONSUMPTION OF BEER AND WINE.
AS THE ASSESSOR, WE, UH, TO THE SERVICE STATION, MINI GAS STATION, THE MATTER SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING CONSISTS OF AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 26 OR WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATED TO ALCOHOL, SELL AT A GAS STATION.
OR GASOLINE SERVICE STATION, THE CITY CLUB VERIFIED THE PROPER LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN.
AT THIS TIME I SHOULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CO A MEMBER NUMBER 20 DASH OH SEVEN.
THEY WILL FIRST BE THE PRESENTATION OF THE STEP REPORT.
THEN WE SHOW HERE FROM THE ZOS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL, THEN THOSE POSTS MR. MANAGER, MR. COLEMAN IS CITY MANAGER WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAIR REPORT.
THE CITY'S PLANNING MANAGER WILL BE GIVING US THIS REPORT.
MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO ON AND START OFF WITH A BIT OF BACKGROUND REGARDING THE PROJECT OR THE ISSUE THAT THIS ISSUE WAS LAST CONSIDERED IN OCTOBER, 2019, BUT NOT ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL INITIATED THE CODE AMENDMENT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2020.
THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2020.
IT'S BEEN LESS THAN A YEAR SINCE THIS WAS LAST DISCUSSED.
STAFF NOTICED A CODE AMENDMENT AS A PUBLIC HEARING AND PRESENTED THE PREVIOUS DRAFT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERED ON OCTOBER, 2019, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL THOUGHT THE ORDINANCE ALLOW BEER AND WINE SALES IN SERVICE STATION, CONVENIENCE STORES AS AN ACCESSORY USE WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
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AT THE TIME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING THE ITEMS ON THE SCREEN WERE PRESENTED BY STAFF TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.UH, THE CITY, THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS A TOTAL OF 45 PLACES THAT HAVE ALCOHOL THAT HAVE ACTIVE OFF SALE ALCOHOL LICENSES WITHIN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
AND THIS INFORMATION WAS OBTAINED FROM THE CALIFORNIA ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL WEBSITE.
AS FAR AS GASOLINE STATIONS WITH CONVENIENCE STORES IN THE CITY, THERE ARE 21 GASOLINE STATIONS, ALL GASOLINE STATIONS WITHIN THE CITY HAVE CONVENIENCE STORES.
STAFF DOES NOT HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW MANY GASOLINE STATIONS THAT ARE, UM, THAT HAVE CONVENIENCE STORES GREATER THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET.
HOWEVER, EXISTING CON CONVENIENCE STORES THAT ARE LESS THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET CAN POTENTIALLY BE INCREASED IN SIZE.
SOME GAS STATIONS HAVE HAVE SERVICE BAYS THAT ARE NO LONGER BEING USED.
THAT CAN BE CONVERTED INTO CONVENIENCE STORE AREAS AS WELL.
WITH THIS, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
THE, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 74.
THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE OPTION OF APPROVING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION CAN RECOMMENDATION OR PROVIDING ALTERNATIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF.
AND BEFORE I MOVE TO ORAL COMMUNICATION AND ANY ELDER COUNCIL, I HAVE A QUESTION OR YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THE, OH, OKAY.
SO WE ARE GOING, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JOANNE AS, WHY NOT? NO, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME BACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHAT WAS IT? CAN YOU TELL ME A 401, FIVE, OR WHAT WAS IT IN THE BACK OF THE CITY COUNCIL? UM, TO CLARIFY, WERE YOU, UM, DID YOU WANT TO KNOW THE VOTE? OKAY.
UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND DOUBLE CHECK THAT I DO SEE, IT SAYS VOTED FIVE.
ON THESE, UH, ON THE AGENDA STAFF REPORT.
UH, AGAIN, UH, I WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO ORAL COMMUNICATION AT THE COUNCIL.
CAN YOU WAIT FOR THE RESIDENT TO SPEAK UP FIRST? OKAY.
THEN LATER ON WE CAN HAVE A QUESTION.
AND THEN COME AND FOLLOW THROUGH.
SO IN THAT WAY LESS, THAT IS RESIDENT.
THEY'RE ALREADY HERE TO SPEAK UP AND THEN PEOPLE WAITING ON THE PHONE.
WAITING IN THE LINES SO THEY CAN ADDRESS TO COUNSEL.
SO THE FIRST ONE YOU WANT TO GO TO THE IN FAVOR OR YOU WANT TO GO TO IT? OKAY.
OPPOSITION, LET'S GO TO THE FAVOR FIRST.
THERE ARE NONE IN FAVOR, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN FAVOR.
THEY HAVE A, OH, ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT TRUE.
I'M SAYING I'M GOING TO, OKAY.
I'M GOING TO OPEN, OPEN UP THE OVERALL OKAY.
TO COUNCIL REGARDING THE ITEM NUMBER 14.
AND THE FIRST WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE PEOPLE IN FAVOR.
THEN AFTER LAND, WE HAVE A PEOPLE IN OPPOSITION.
SO THE PERSON IN FAVOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE GO FIRST? SO WHO WANTS TO WANT TO GO TO THE FIRST ONE? MR. HERB BREAD HOLDS FOLLOWED BY EDDIE ELDER.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF AND RESIDENTS, HER HERBERT.
HOLTS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER CITY OF WEST COVINA.
LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
WE TOOK THIS UP FOR ONE REASON.
WEST COVINA BUSINESSES LOCALLY RUN INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GAS STATIONS WITH CONVENIENCE STORES.
THIS IS TO ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD AND COMPETE WITH NEIGHBORING CITIES, WITH BUSINESSES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THEIRS.
THIS HAS BEEN, UH, ON THE BOOKS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND, UH, IT'S, I'M ASKING YOU BASICALLY TO COMPLETE THE TASK
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ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE.WE, UH, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT? QUITE CLEARLY, WE'VE OFFERED YOU, I BELIEVE 12 OR 13 CONDITIONS.
AND THIS IS A MENU OF CONDITIONS.
YOU CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH ITEMS YOU WANT TO DO.
YOU'VE GOT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM.
THIS REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
ANYBODY, ANY GAS STATION OPERATOR WHO HAS A CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FIRST OFF TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I KNOW IT SAYS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 21 GAS STATIONS AND THEY'VE ALL GOT SOME KIND OF CONVENIENCE STORE IN THEM.
THIS IS WHY WE INITIATED AND, AND INSTALL THESE RESTRICTIONS.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND BE HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
I FOUND IT INTERESTING AT OUR, AT OUR MEETING, UH, BACK IN SEPTEMBER THAT WE HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO CAME UP HERE AND TOOK US TO TASK BECAUSE WE WERE DOING ALL OF THIS FOR ONE PERSON, ONE GUY, WHY ARE YOU DOING ALL OF THIS FOR ONE GUY? ANOTHER SPEAKER CAME UP RIGHT AFTER HIM AND TOOK US TO TASK AND CHASTISED US BECAUSE OVERNIGHT 21 GAS STATIONS WOULD MORPH INTO LIQUOR STORES OVERNIGHT.
ARE WE DOING IT FOR ONE GUY, OUR 21 GUYS? I WASN'T SURE, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS NEITHER.
ONE OF THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE EACH ONE REQUIRES A CUP IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT FAIRNESS.
IT'S THIS IS A PRO WEST COVINA BUSINESS PROPOSITION.
WE HAVE GAS STATION OPERATORS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THIS CITY FOR DECADES THAT OPERATE GOOD CLEAN BUSINESSES.
THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
AND I THINK WE OWE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ASKED ABOUT THE VOTE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THIS, WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS, UH, THIS ORDINANCE MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS AND AT OUR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, THIS WAS THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT WE HAD EVEN ANANYMOUS FIVE, OH, VOTE ON THIS.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THREE TO TWO OR FOUR TO ONE OR SOMETHING, BUT THIS LAST TIME WAS FIVE.
OH, WHICH I WAS HAPPY TO SEE BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE, WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS, WE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH.
AND I'VE TALKED TO ELECTED OFFICIALS IN NEIGHBORING CITIES ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS AN ISSUE AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
NOBODY SAID TO ME BY GOD, DON'T DO THAT.
IT'S A BIG IT'S, IT'S GOING, GONNA RUIN YOUR CITY.
NOBODY SAID THAT IT'S NOT TRUE.
AND I'M KIND OF TIRED OF, OF SCARE TACTICS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE HEARD FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ON THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE ALLOW THIS, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR WOMEN ARE GOING TO BE MOLESTED AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET ROBBED AND BEATEN UP.
AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT UP.
I'VE ONLY GOT 17 SECONDS LEFT.
WE'LL USE UP ALL THE TIME ALREADY.
I KNOW, I KNOW I'M USED TO BEING ON THAT SIDE AND HAVING A FREE REIGN, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD WITH FIVE MINUTES HERE AT 10, NINE, EIGHT, EIGHT.
I'M ASKING YOU TO, UH, FINISH THE DOLL AND ALLOW THIS TO GO THROUGH.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS EDDIE ELDER.
WELL, I'VE BEEN HERE 45 YEARS IN SOUTH HILLS.
OH, BY THE WAY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FINALLY PAVING THE STREETS.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS MORE RUTS IN THE STREETS.
THEY'RE ON A DIRT RACETRACK, BUT ANYHOW, THEY'RE REALLY NICE, BUT WE'RE IN CHANGING TIMES.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I MOVED HERE, I STOPPED AT CHARLIE BARKER STATION AND YOU KNOW, THEY'D WASH YOUR WINDOWS, CHECK YOUR TIRE PRESSURE, AND YOU PAY 29 CENTS FOR GAS
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AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE.WHAT DIFFERENT TIMES? AND TODAY YOU GO TO THE GAS STATION.
YOU WANT TO TURN AROUND AND RUN SOMEWHERE AND GET A BOTTLE OF WINE.
YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE TO GET IT RIGHT THERE INSTEAD OF MAKING ANOTHER TRIP.
IT'S JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
IT DON'T MAKE SENSE TO ME THIS THE THIRD TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, IT DON'T MAKE SENSE TO ME OR MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT WHY YOU CAN'T STOP IT.
THE GUESTS THAT WHEN YOU GET GAS AND JUST PICK UP SOME INCIDENTAL, IT, A LOT OF TIMES ON THE GAS STATION, I PICK UP ICE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE CONVENIENCE TOO.
AND SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE JUST WHY THEY LIMIT IT AND NOT BEER AND WINE.
THERE'S, THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HARD ALCOHOL, YOU KNOW? SURE.
YOU COULD DRIVE DOWN THE STREET, FOUR BLOCKS, FIND A PARKING SPOT, GO IN, BUT IT'S JUST THIS THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHY YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO ME LIKE THAT THEY APPROVE THIS AND LET'S JUST GET UP WITH A MODERN TIME, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
WHY SHOULD WE BE DIFFERENT? THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ISAAC ELTON.
UH, WELL, I THINK HE'S IN, HE'S COMING HERE AT, WOULD YOU PLEASE NOW WHO'S FOLLOWING HIM.
DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPOT? I MEAN, ISAAC IS SALLY MORALES.
WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND BY? OKAY.
UH, I KNEW TO BEING NEW TO CALIFORNIA AND LIVING IN COVINA AND THEN MOVING TO WEST COVINA, IT WAS LIKE A SHOCK TO BE, UH, I WAS LIVING IN CA IN WEST COAST IN COVINA AND I COULD GO TO THE GAS STATION AND HANDLE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO DO, BUT THEN I MOVED ACROSS THE STREET AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT THAN, I MEAN, IT'S A MATTER OF 50 TO A HUNDRED FEET.
AND IT JUST LIKE THE MAN SAID WE'RE IN CHANGING TIMES, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS, UH, AN OLDER, MORE TRADITIONAL TYPE OF THING.
WHEREAS IF YOU WANT TO CATCH UP WITH THE TIES, I MEAN, IT'S UNFAIR THAT IF I HAVE A SUNOCO HERE, I CAN'T COMPETE WITH THE SUNOCO ACROSS THE STREET BECAUSE WE'RE JUST ACROSS THE STREET.
NOW HE'S GETTING ALL MY BUSINESS AND WHERE WE'RE A HUNDRED FEET APART BECAUSE OF A RESTRICTION THAT, UH, I, I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T SEE A GOOD REASON FOR IT IN 2020.
NATALIE MORALES FOLLOWED BY OSCAR TUSCADERO.
I'M JUST HERE IN FAVOR OF THE SELLING OF BEER AND WINE AT THE GAS STATION.
AND THAT'S ALL YOU WANT TO SAY.
I WANT TO SAY MO NO, NO, THAT'S IT.
AND KNOW WHO IS FOLLOWING HIM? WOULD YOU PICK? I HAVE A ROMY AND I DON'T HAVE A, IT WASN'T MARKED IF IT WAS IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSE.
I'M A OSCAR CORRINA WITH EXTRA MILE.
SO I'M A REPRESENTATIVE EXTRA MILE HERE.
SO WE HAVE A CONVENIENT SOURCE HERE IN WEST COVINA.
SO, UH, IT'S UH, WE RECOMMEND THIS BECAUSE WE WANT A ONE, ONE STOP SHOP.
YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN AND GET THE GUYS, THEY COME AND GET THE CIGARETTES AND THE BEER AND THE HOT.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA PROVEN THIS.
ANYBODY IN FAVOR? COME, PLEASE.
AND THE, DO YOU FILL UP THE YELLOW CAR? NO.
COULD YOU ADD THE, YOU DUMP? DID YOU FILL IT UP? UH, COME SPEAK FIRST, GO AGAIN.
I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE WEST KOREAN AREA IN WEST COVINA COVINA ALL AROUND.
UM, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE GAS STATION OWNERS, SOME OF WHOM HAVE BEEN IN THESE COMMUNITIES.
LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID 30, 40 YEARS, THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEY, UM, THEY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS.
SOME OF THEM OWN SERVICE STATIONS, GENUINE SERVICE STATION RELATED REPAIRS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND HAVE REALLY BECOME SEWN INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND FOR WEST COVINA, NOT TO ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THE OTHER CITIES, LIKE THE GENTLEMEN SAID IS KIND OF SIR, DUE TO AN ARCHAIC LAW.
IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING OUT OF THESE GAS STATIONS WITH A SIPPY CUP DRINKING, YOU KNOW, A BOTTLE OF BEER OR CHUGGING DOWN A BOTTLE
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OF WINE.SO IT'S JUST KIND OF IRRESPONSIBLE OF THE CITY TO PUT THAT KIND OF HANDICAP ON A LOCAL BUSINESS.
IT'S JUST KIND OF UNFAIR, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
APPRECIATE ANY RESIDENT AUDIENCE WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR IN FAVOR IN FAVOR.
A REASON I'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL, SEVERAL TIMES LOWER ALL OVER MY, YEAH.
THE POINT IS I DON'T SEE ANY INCONVENIENT.
WHY WE'VE BEEN CLAIMING ME ALMOST SEVEN TIMES A WHOLE BUNCH OF GOOGLE HOME EARLY TODAY, LATELY IN GOING OUT, YOU ALMOST 1130 FOR, BUT ANYWAY, MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THE MATTER IS THAT THE WINE AND BEER, WHY NOW THAT SECTOR TO HAVE AN AMIR ILLEGAL, LEGAL, YOU KNOW, OFF A METER OFF A LICENSE, YOU KNOW, AND A PARTICULAR GAS STATION.
I DON'T SEE ANY POINT WHERE THERE IS A REASON BECAUSE GOING THAT WAY OR THIS WAY, THAT WAY I SEE THE SCHOOLS, IT'S ABOUT A MILE, MILE AND A HALF.
AND I NEVER, I SEE ANY KID HANGING AROUND AT THE GAS STATION SPECIAL.
I BIKE EVERY DAY IN THE MEANTIME THROUGH THAT AREA.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY KIDS AT ALL TO ME, I DON'T SEE THE POINT REALLY TO, YOU KNOW, BASIS AND THAT CYCLE, I GREW UP, YOU KNOW, COFFEE AND OTHER STUFF, YOU KNOW, THAT I BUY THERE, I GOT A GALLON MILL AND GO PULL MY GAS AND GO HOME.
SIMPLE AS THAT, SINCE I REALLY WANT TO DRINK SOMETHING, IT TAKES ME A WHILE TO GO SOMEPLACE AND NOT REALLY TO GET A BEER, WINE, WHATEVER, AND BEGIN LYING ON THAT.
IT'S KIND OF STRESSFUL FOR ME.
IT'S SIMPLE TO BE A GAS STATION.
WHAT ARE YOUR TRUNK? AND GO, LIKE I SAY, I DON'T SEE NOBODY AROUND HANGING AROUND AND DRINKING OR TRYING TO INTIMIDATE ANY YOUNGER, YOU KNOW, TO GET SOME LEGAL FROM THE PLACE.
SO I THINK IT'D BE GRATEFUL FOR US, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, THE STORY OF BE THAT LICENSE, YOU KNOW, FULFILLED.
WHY ARE YOU BEING OKAY? WHAT'S UP? WHAT US.
AND DID YOU FILL OUT THE YELLOW CALL? HELLO COUNSELOR? HELLO MAYOR.
UH, MY FAMILY HAS AN OPERATING A GAS STATION HERE FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.
UM, I WOULD SAY THE WHOLE POINT FOR US, UM, AT THE GAS STATION AS MR. OSCAR SAID EARLIER IS WE WANT TO BE A ONE STOP SHOP FOR THE CUSTOMER AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER CONVENIENCE FOR THE CUSTOMER.
AND, UH, FOR US NOT BEING ABLE TO OFFER BEER OR WINE TO THE CUSTOMER.
I MEAN, WE HEAR IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I MEAN, I GREW UP AT THE STORES.
I'M 25 MYSELF AND YOU HEAR ALL THE TIME, OH, YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE BEER.
CAUSE WE'RE THE ONE PLACE OUT OF ALL THESE CITIES LIKE THAT THEY HAVE NORMALLY GONE TO THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE BEER OR WINE HERE.
SO WE HAVE TO TELL THEM TO GO SIMPLY YOU BROUGHT ACROSS THE STREET TO THE SEVEN 11, WHERE JUST BECAUSE THE SOLE FACT THAT THEY DON'T SELL GUYS THAT THEY COULD SELL BEER, UM, FOR US TO HAVE THE ALCOHOL LICENSE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO, OH, BY THE, BY THE ABC LAWS TO RIGHT.
WE HAVE TO CHECK FOR ID AND UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A 13 RULES THAT THERE ARE, THAT THEY WROTE OUT FOR YOU GUYS TO, THAT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW.
UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK I SEE US BEING JUST AS RESPONSIBLE AS LIKE A LOCAL LIQUOR STORE AND THE SEVEN 11.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, TO PROVE US, TO ALLOW US TO SELL ALCOHOL.
SO WE GO ON TO THE PEOPLE, WE, THE NEXT ONE WILL BE IN OPPOSITION.
LET'S GO HAVE A FIRST SPEAKER PLEASE.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. STEVE BENNETT.
AND WHILE HE COMES DOWN, UH, MARK PERSICO IS GOING TO HAND OUT EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND OPPOSITION.
HOW MANY EMAIL WE HAVE TO EMAIL.
SO LET'S HAVE A, THE FIRST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION.
WHO IS GOING TO GO THROUGH FOLLOWED BY DANA SYKES.
STEVE, ANYTHING AGAIN? COUNCIL MR. MAYOR STAFF.
UM, SO TONIGHT YOU HEARD FROM ONE OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WHO BROUGHT UP THE, UH, IT'S ALL ABOUT ONE BUSINESS.
AND LET ME EXPLAIN THAT COMMENT.
SO THAT THAT PLANNING COMMISSIONER CAN UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC
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THAT HE IS MISSING.UM, IT IS ONE BUSINESS OWNER WHO HAS APPLIED FOR THIS CONTINUALLY EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT IS ONE BUSINESS OWNER WHO HAS LED THE FIGHT FOR THIS FOR YEARS AND IS ONE BUSINESS OWNER THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO CAMPAIGNS TO TRY TO GET THIS SWITCHED.
THAT IS THE ONE BUSINESS OWNER.
IS IT GOING TO BE 21 BUSINESSES OR IS IT GOING TO BE ONE BUSINESS? WELL, AS MR.
IF AN APPLICANT APPLIES FOR A CUP AND HE'S GRANTED THAT, AND LET'S SAY TWO OR THREE APPLICANTS ARE GRANTED THAT SAY FOUR OR FIVE, PRETTY SOON YOU SET A PRECEDENT.
AND WHEN THAT ONE PERSON IS DENIED, YOU MIGHT GET SUED.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SITUATIONS THAT COME INTO PLAY WHERE, WHY JENNA? I WON.
SO WHAT'S TO STOP THIS WHAT'S TO STOP THE NEXT COUNCIL FROM SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS 2000 FOOT REQUIREMENT, I DON'T LIKE IT.
I'M GOING TO REMOVE THAT PART.
NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE CAN DO MORE.
THE ISSUE THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH TONIGHT IS AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN IN FRONT OF THE CITY FOR YEARS.
AND I AGREED TIMES ARE CHANGING THINGS HAPPEN, BUT THERE'S ALSO THINGS THAT ARE FABRIC OF THE CITY.
AND WE'VE HAD OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR YEARS.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SWITCHING FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
THAT'S A FABRIC OF THE CITY HAVING OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT.
EVEN THOUGH I HAVE THE EMAIL THAT SHOWS THE CITY MANAGER DOING THAT, THAT YOU ASKED ABOUT EARLIER, I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU.
WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE FABRICS OF THE CITY, SUBURBAN HOMES, NO HIGH DENSITY LIVING.
WE HAVE ONE HIGH DENSITY PLACE.
REALLY HONESTLY, THAT'S A MIXED USE.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE HAVE RANCH-STYLE HOUSING IN THIS CITY.
THAT'S THE FABRIC OF THE CITY.
THE RESIDENTS FOR YEARS HAVE SUPPORTED THE IDEA OF NOT ALLOWING BEER AND WINE AT GAS STATIONS.
THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR YOU GUYS OR VIEW, UM, THE ISSUE YOU HAVE IS IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS? WELL, PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE DECISION CHANGED.
UM, THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES TO BUY ALCOHOL.
COMMISSIONER SAID IT'S ABOUT PARODY.
SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WITH THE GAS STATION NEXT TO PACIFIC LIQUOR, SHOULD WE NOW ALLOW PACIFIC LIQUOR TO PUT GAS STATION PUMPS IN THAT'S PARODY? LET THEM COMPETE ON AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
RIGHT? WE WANT TO GIVE LIQUOR STORES THE ABILITY TO GIVE GAS, OR DO WE WANT TO GIVE GAS STATIONS? THE ABILITY TO GIVE LIQUOR THAT'S PARODY? YOU WANT TO GIVE BOTH THE OPPORTUNITY? WELL THEN LET'S, LET'S GO BACK AND LET'S OPEN UP OR GAS STATIONS.
LET'S PUT GAS STATIONS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
BECAUSE WHEN THAT GAS STATION FIRST OPENED, YEAH, THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN FOUR ON FOUR CORNERS THAT BACK IN THE DAY, AND THAT HAS SHRUNK DOWN.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DEALING WITH WHEN THEY OPENED THEIR BUSINESS.
PARODY IS ALLOWING EVERYONE TO DO IT.
MAYBE WE SHOULD ALLOW CVS TO OPEN A GAS STATION.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT PLANNING COMMISSIONER MENTIONS.
SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU GUYS TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS, HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS OPPOSE THIS, NO RESIDENTS CAME FORWARD AND SAID, I WANT THIS.
IF THEY EVEN LIVE IN WEST COVINA, WHICH A FEW OF THEM UP HERE THEY HAVE.
UM, BUT NO RESIDENT CAME UP AND SAID, GOSH, I REALLY WISH I COULD WALK INTO A GAS STATION TO BUY A CAN OF BEER OR A THREE PACK OR SIX PACK.
THIS WAS STARTED BECAUSE ONE BUSINESS OWNER, ONCE THE LAW CHANGED ONE BUSINESS OWNER AND THE OTHERS ARE JUMPING ON THIS ORDINANCE MAKES WEST COVINA UNIQUE.
IT'S PART OF THE FABRIC OF OUR CITY.
LIKE MANY OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE BROUGHT UP.
THERE'S A GREAT MAN THAT WE ALL KNOW.
AND I'VE BROUGHT THEM UP BEFORE WHO FOUGHT THIS BATTLE FOR YEARS.
AND I WISH HE WAS HERE TODAY TO FIGHT THAT BATTLE AGAIN.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS STANDING OUT IN THIS COMMUNITY SAYING, I DON'T WANT THIS WHO ARE NOT GOING TO COME HERE AND SPEAK.
AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT JUST HOW MANY THAT IS.
AND MY ADVICE IS LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS PRO-BUSINESS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR.
NOT MORE THAN $10,000 IN TAX REVENUE.
IF IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE DIFFERENTIAL, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PRO-BUSINESS, IT'S PRO-BUSINESS FOR ONE SPECIFIC TYPE OF BUSINESS.
AND THAT IS ABOUT 21 BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY.
AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO INCREASE SALES AND INCREASE REVENUE TO OUR CITY.
NEXT DANA SYKES FOLLOWED BY FREDERICK SYKES.
FIRST OF ALL, I, UM, ONE I'VE MENTIONED AGAIN, FOREST WILKINS FORCE WILL CONSIST,
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FOUGHT THIS FIGHT FOR YEARS.WE LOST HIM THIS YEAR AND I WAS AT HIS FUNERAL AND NOT ME CARED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND HE PUT HIS HEART AND SOUL INTO THIS COMMUNITY.
AND HE DID THAT BECAUSE HE WAS A POLICE OFFICER.
HE KNOWS ALCOHOL AND CARS DO NOT MIX.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S COMING ON LAWS, PROHIBITS ALCOHOL AT GAS STATIONS.
ONE GUY SAID, HE'S BEEN HERE FOR DECADES.
THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE THE ALCOHOL, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAY, YOU ALWAYS HEAR, OH, WE'VE GOTTA BE PRO-BUSINESS PRO-BUSINESS.
WHAT ABOUT THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WITH THE LIQUOR? YOU'RE NOW TELLING THEM CAUSE THEY CUT OFF.
AND WHAT YOU DO IS YOU LOOK FOR A SPOT WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR BUSINESS AT.
YOU DON'T WANT TOO MUCH COMPETITION AROUND.
SO THEY PUT THEM SPOT NEXT TO A GAS STATION.
CAUSE THEY'RE NOT PUMPING GAS.
NOW WE HAVE THE, UM, GAS STATION OWNERS SAYING, WELL, HEY, I WANT TO SELL LIQUOR TOO.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A BEDROOM, COMMUNITY FAMILIES.
WE COME HERE TO RAISE OUR FAMILY IN A WHOLESOME, NICE COMMUNITY CURRENTLY.
AND WE CAN'T SAY THAT'S ALWAYS TRUE BECAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A BIT PROBLEMS WITH THE HOMELESS.
WE HAVE HIM IN MY PARK NEAR ME, ALCOHOL, A TREX HOMELESS.
I JUST GO TO THE 99 CENT STORE.
THEY SELL CHEAP WINE AND BEER, WHICH IS WHAT THOSE GAS STATIONS WILL BE SELLING.
GO IN THERE AND SEE IF YOU SEE A HOMELESS PERSON WALKING AROUND THE 99 CENT STORE.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PLUS, YOU KNOW, PUMPING GAS AND UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, UH, PURVIEW, A PERSON THAT SPOKE AT, UM, HEIGHTEN COMMISSION MEETING ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE COULD PUMP GAS, WALK NEXT DOOR TO THE GAS STATION, TO THE LIQUOR STORE AND GET A BEER WHILE GAS IS PUMPING.
WELL, THAT RIGHT THERE PROVES WE'RE SATURATED.
WE'RE NUMBER TWO, NUMBER TWO IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY IN LIQUOR, LIQUOR ESTABLISHMENT.
ONLY ONE THAT HAS MORE IS ELMANI.
AND IT'S AMAZING HOW GLENDORA, WHICH IS QUITE THE SAME SIZE CITY AS US AS AT LEAST PROBABLY ABOUT A THIRD OF WHAT WE HAVE.
I WOULD RATHER BE ON GLENDORA THAN ALIMONY.
ANOTHER PERSON TALKED ABOUT, UM, I CAN GET GAS AND BEER AT COSTCO.
I BUY MY BEAR THERE SOMETIMES, BUT AFTER I GET MY GAS, I GOTTA GO PARK MY CAR, WALK INTO COSTCO TO THE BACK OF THE STORE AND PICK UP MY WARM BEER.
SO IF YOU GUYS, IF THEY WANT TO SELL WARM BEER, GO FOR IT.
I DON'T THINK TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE POPPING UP, POPPING UP IN THE TOP OF THOSE GUESTS, THOSE BEER CANS, IF IT'S WARM.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING TOO, IF THE WINE DOESN'T HAVE A CORK IN IT, THEN IT SHOULD NOT BE SOLD AT THE GAS STATION.
CAUSE NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE CARRY AROUND A CORKSCREW, DON'T MAKE IT.
THEY CAN'T HAVE THE CHEAP STUFF.
I MEAN LIKE AGAIN, 99 CENT STORE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TO MANY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD A RESIDENT GET UP HERE AND SAY, WE NEED ALCOHOL AND GAS STATIONS.
THE ONLY TIME YOU HEAR THAT IS WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE LAW.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I SEE THEM HIGH FIVING, THE, THE OWNERS OF THE GAS STATIONS ON THE WAY OUT, IT'S JUST A LITTLE QUEEN KEATING THERE.
WHAT OFTEN YOU HEAR THEM SAY IT'S ONLY BEER, IT'S ONLY WINE.
UM, WE WERE SENT RECENTLY, UM, EMAIL ABOUT A FATHER WHO HAD FIVE KIDS IN HIS CAR.
HE HAD BEEN DRINKING BEER AT HOME AND DECIDED HE NEEDED SIMILAR BEERS AND TOOK THE KIDS OUT TO GET SOME HAMBURGERS WHILE HE NO LONGER HAS FIVE KIDS.
HE ONLY HAS TWO BECAUSE HE, HE WAS IN A, UM, UH, HEAD-ON CRASH CAUSE HE WAS DRUNK, BUT HE NEEDED THAT BEER AND HE GOT THE BEER FROM A GAS STATION, JUST SO YOU KNOW, DON'T MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO DRINK AND DRIVE.
IT'S THE MESSAGE YOU SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT.
AND IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS FRED SIKES FOLLOWED BY BRIAN TABATA.
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FIRST OF ALL, I HOPE YOU REMEMBER AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND OF CURE.I HAVE WALKED MY STREET FOR TWO DAYS.
MY NEIGHBORS TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND I SAID, I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING TONIGHT.
CAN YOU SIGN THIS PETITION PLEASE? AND THIS PETITION IS ASKING THAT WE DON'T CHANGE THE LAW THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE I MOVED HERE.
WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1978, THAT LAW WAS IN PLACE AND IT'S JUST A LITTLE SIGN.
IT'S A PART OF, LIKE STEVE SAID, IT'S A PART OF THE FABRIC OF IT'S CONVENIENT.
IT'S WHAT MAKES WEST COVINA WEST COVINA MAKES US DIFFERENT.
THAT'S OVER 150 SIGNATURES IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
I'M FREDERICK SYKES RETIRED, DEPUTY SHERIFF.
THAT'S PART OF WHY I'M FIGHTING SO HARD.
CAUSE I'VE SEEN A LOT OF STUFF.
WHAT ALCOHOL DOES TO PEOPLE AND I'M ALSO THE FORMER MAYOR OF THE CITY.
SO I SUBMITTED THAT PETITION WITH THOSE HUNDRED 50 NAMES.
AND REMEMBER THIS, THIS WAS GOTTEN IN THE COVID STYLE MASK ON AND DISTANCING TO GET THOSE SIGNATURES.
THIS NEW ALCOHOL SOLD IN GAS STATIONS, LAW.
IT'S NOT MAKING THE CITY BETTER.
IT'S NOT IMPROVING OUR SITUATION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST YOU.
THEY KNOW THE DESIRE OF THIS MAJORITY.
THAT'S WHY THE QUICK, QUICK TURNAROUND THREE OF YOU SAID, HEY, WE WANT IT.
THEY DIDN'T DO ANY TYPE OF DUE DILIGENCE, A COUPLE OF LITTLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.
WITHOUT ANY RESEARCH WE GET, I JUST TOLD YOU, I GOT THESE SECRETARIES.
WHAT COVID COVID HAS AN IMPACT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOME KIND OF AT LEAST SOME KIND OF A LITTLE REPORT ABOUT THAT.
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH PEOPLE WITH THIS COVID ENVIRONMENT AND ALCOHOL, NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO DO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO A GOOD SHOE.
EVEN THOUGH THIS LAW IS LIKE THE OVER TWO DOZEN, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE GROUPS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS THIS PART OF THIS HIDDEN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAKES WEST COVINA A BETTER CITY.
THIS IS ALSO A HUGE BETRAYAL TO THE CITY THAT I, AND MY NEIGHBORS AND OUR LIQUOR STORE OWNERS HAVE INVESTED IN SOME OF THESE BETRAYED LIQUOR STORE OWNERS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS.
SOME HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO A YOUTH IN SPORTS PROGRAMS AND IN OTHER WAYS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND NOW TONIGHT, THE CITY LEADERS ARE MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO STAY IN BUSINESS.
OUR CITY ALREADY HAS A LARGE NUMBER OF CONVENIENCE STORES, LIQUOR STORES AND LIQUOR VENDORS.
AND THIS ADDS TO THE BURDEN OF POLICE WORK AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHEN I USE THESE CONVENIENCE STORES, THIS IS WHAT I SEE A STORE BY DESIGN THAT ATTRACTS CRIME AND OTHER SOCIAL PROBLEMS, THE SMALL OPERATION OF QUICKIE IN GRAB AND GO THAT HAS BUILT IN CRIMES OF OPPORTUNITY.
JUST BUILT INTO THE FABRIC OF THE STORE, TAKING MERCHANDISE AND RUNNING OUT OF THE STORE WITHOUT PAYING.
I USED TO BUY A LOT OF REPORTS FOR THAT AT CONVENIENCE STORES UNDER AGE, DRINKING CUSTOMERS OFTENTIMES ARE CONFRONTED BY PEOPLE LOITERING AROUND BEGGING PANHANDLING, STEALING PURSE, SNATCHING AMONG OTHER HARMFUL THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALL AROUND THESE KINDS OF LOCATIONS.
IF YOU LOOK, THERE ARE THE ASSAULTS AND THE ROBBERIES OF THE STORES AND THE CUSTOMERS.
AND USUALLY THESE PLACES ATTRACT A OF HOMELESSNESS AND DERELICTS BY REMOVING THIS LAW, WE'RE LOWERING THE LONGSTANDING STANDARDS THAT OUR CITY HAS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND AND SEE HOW
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EVERYBODY AROUND US, THEY HAVE ALREADY, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LAW.WE HAVE THIS LOCAL CONTROL AND COMBINED WITH THE TREMENDOUS UNDER-STAFFING OF WEST COVINA PD.
THIS IS A BAD IDEA AT THE WORST TIME.
YOU KNOW, ONLY GOT FIVE MINUTES AND I GOT, I GOT A TON OF THINGS THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT BECAUSE I SAW PEOPLE DIE.
DRINKING AND DRIVING UNDER AGE, DRINKING LITTLE KIDS CAN, CAN DRINK TOO MUCH.
AND I'VE WRITTEN DEAD BODY REPORTS ABOUT THIS KIND OF STUFF.
AND CAUSE ANYWAY, UH, I HOPE THAT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF YOU SEE THAT YOU SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS.
THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA AND THIS IS BAD TIMING FOR IT.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BRIAN TABATA BY FOLLOWED BY MINERVA.
I'D LIKE TO BEGIN MY PUBLIC COMMENTS BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE LAND AND THE NATIVE PEOPLES TO WHOM THIS LAND BELONGS AS ITS ORIGINAL CARETAKERS.
THIS IS THE LAND OF THE TONGUE OF THE NATIONS AND THEY ARE STILL HERE.
WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH ALL INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND THEIR RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION AND JUSTICE.
WE COMMIT TO WORKING TOWARD THE HEALING OF THE GENERATIONAL TRAUMA THEFT AND DISPOSSESSION NATIVE PEOPLES HAVE FACED AND CONTINUE TO FACE.
THOSE ARE WORDS THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO HAS BEEN HONORED TO SERVE US RESIDENTS HAVE UTTERED WHETHER ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL OR WHEN YOU TOOK THAT OATH OF OFFICE, THERE WAS A COMMITMENT MADE TO US, THE RESIDENTS OF WEST COVINA, A COMMITMENT TO LISTEN, A COMMITMENT TO SERVE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, A COMMITMENT TO DO THE WORK NECESSARY, TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS, TO DO THE READING, TO ASK THE QUESTIONS, TO COME PREPARED, TO CAST A VOTE AND CONVEY CLEARLY YOUR REASONING TO THE RESIDENTS OF WEST COVINA.
IT IS CLEAR THAT MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL HAVE NOT TAKEN THIS COMMITMENT SERIOUSLY.
ON OCTOBER 16TH, A MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL ADMITTED IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY TRIBUNE TO NOT DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE VOTING ON RAISES THAT HAVE PUSHED THE CITY CLOSER TO BANKRUPTCY.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THE 12% RAISES GIVEN THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN 2019 WERE NOT A GOOD IDEA.
THE RAISES THAT WERE GIVEN TO THE POLICE AND FIRE IN HINDSIGHT, THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN GIVEN.
WE WERE TOLD IT WAS IN THE BUDGET FOR IT AND IT WASN'T.
LUCKILY FOR THE CITY OF WEST COVINA RESIDENTS BANDED TOGETHER AND DEFEATED TAX WC, WHICH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENDORSED AND WHATEVER ATTACHED ANOTHER 13% ON TOP OF THE 12%, WHICH SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN GIVEN.
AND HERE WE FIND OURSELVES AGAIN, ANOTHER CONSEQUENTIAL VOTE THAT WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE OUR CITY IN AUGUST.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON TOLD THE TRIBUNE THAT ALCOHOL SALES AT OUR GAS STATIONS WOULD GENERATE MONEY FOR WEST COVINA.
WE DEFINITELY NEED THE REVENUE AND I THINK THIS WOULD BRING A GOOD SOURCE OF REVENUE BASED ON WHAT RESEARCH BASED ON WHAT STUDIES, WHAT DID YOU READ A MONTH LATER DURING THE DISTRICT ONE FORUM, THE RATIONALE CHANGED.
IT WAS NO LONGER OUR BUDGET SHORTFALLS.
IT WAS CREATING FAIR COMPETITION.
AGAIN, BASED ON WHAT READING, WHAT STUDY WHEN TALKING ABOUT FAIRNESS, ARE WE CONSIDERING THE ADVANTAGES GAS STATIONS HAVE BASED ON CERTAIN LOCATIONS? DO WE CONSIDER THE ADVANTAGES OF A GAS STATION LOCATED NEAR QUEEN OF THE VALLEY OR A GAS STATION LOCATED ON PLAZA, WEST COVINA OR ONES THAT CONTAIN A CARWASH OR GIVE DODGER TICKETS WITH AN EIGHT GALLON PHILIP OR GIVE REWARDS WITH USE OF THEIR CREDIT CARD OR TREAT CHEAPER PRICES WITH A STORE MEMBERSHIP WHEN MAKING THIS DECISION, ARE WE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT HOW GAS STATIONS MANIPULATE CONSUMERS ENTER ENTERING THE CONVENIENCE STORE BY OFFERING A CHEAPER PRICE FOR THOSE WHO PAY CASH OR CHARGING 35 CENTS AT THE PUMP? ARE WE CONSIDERING THE DIFFERENT MARKETING STRATEGIES THAT ARE USED THAT ENTICE CONSUMERS TO PURCHASE ALCOHOL WHEN THAT WAS NOT THEIR INITIAL INTENT, HAS THIS COUNCIL CONSIDERED
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THE PUBLIC SAFETY COSTS, THE COST OF INCREASED CALLS TO CONVENIENCE STORES, WHICH SELL ALCOHOL HAS THIS COUNCIL CONSIDERED THE COST OF POTENTIAL LITIGATION FROM GAS STATIONS WHO WILL SURELY ARGUE AGAINST THE ARBITRARY NATURE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT CONSIDER THIS COUNCIL'S RATIONALE OF FAIRNESS.HAS THIS COUNCIL CONSIDERED THE FACT THAT THE RESIDENTS YEAH, OVERWHELMINGLY DO NOT WANT THIS CHANGE? WHAT DUE DILIGENCE WAS DONE BY THIS COUNCIL OR ARE SOME ON THE COUNCIL WAITING FOR REELECTION TO DO THE ASSIGNED READING.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MINERVA FOLLOWED BY FRANCIS MINERVA.
UM, DURING THE TWO HOURS I WAS ON HOLD A FRIEND EMAILED ME A COMMENT.
SO I'M GOING TO READ HERS FIRST AND THEN MINE.
MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I AM EILEEN MIRANDA JIMENEZ, A 24 YEAR HOMEOWNER AND RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA.
I AM OPPOSED TO EXPANDING ALCOHOL SALES.
I GUESS PATIENTS, WE CURRENTLY HAVE AMPLE LOCATIONS TO PURCHASE ALCOHOL, SUCH AS BEVMO, GROCERY STORES, TARGET WALMART, ET CETERA.
THERE WAS NO IMMEDIATE NEED TO EXPAND LOCATIONS.
I GREW UP IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAD ALCOHOL EASILY ACCESSIBLE AT MANY, MANY LOCATIONS TO RESIDENTS.
I LEFT MY CHILDHOOD COMMUNITY TO ATTEND COLLEGE IN A DRY TOWN.
I HAD NEVER HEARD OF A DRY TOWN.
AND ONCE IT WASN'T DISBELIEF THAT ALCOHOL WAS NOT SOLD IN ANY STORE OR LOCATION WITHIN THE TOWN OR CITY LIMITS, IT WAS NO COINCIDENCE THAT MY COLLEGE TOWN HAD VERY, VERY LOW CRIME RATE.
WHILE MY CHILDHOOD TOWN HAD A VERY HIGH CRIME RATE FELLOW HIGH SCHOOL CLASSMATES WOULD BRAG ABOUT WHERE THEY KNEW THEY COULD PURCHASE OR GET ACCESS TO ALCOHOL MORE THAN HALF THE TIME IT WAS AT GAS STATIONS, QUICK CONVENIENCE STORES OR INDEPENDENTLY OWNED LIQUOR STORES.
I AM PLEASED THAT MY WEST COVINA HOMETOWN HAS A RESPONSIBLE AND REASONABLE BALANCE OF ALCOHOL ACCESSIBILITY, NOT A DRY TOWN, BUT NOT EASILY AVAILABLE AT EVERY TURN.
THERE'S NO PRESSING OR IMMEDIATE NEED TO EXPAND SALES TO GAS STATIONS.
ALL THE LOCATIONS THAT CURRENTLY SELL ALCOHOL HAVE NOT SUDDENLY GONE DRY.
I URGE EACH OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THE EXPANSION OF ALCOHOL SALES AT GUESTS STATION IN PARTNERSHIP, EILEEN MIRANDA HUMENEZ.
NOW FOR MINE, UM, GETTING ME I'M A NIRVANA WEST COVINA RESIDENT.
WHY IS IT NECESSARY FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN JOHNSON TO CONSIDER LIFTING THE BAN ON THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AT GAS STATIONS? WHY MUST IT BE ADDRESSED NOW DURING THAT PANDEMIC, WHEN RESIDENTS ARE BUSY, JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE, NOT ONLY IS THE MOVE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE SHAMEFUL, THE TIMING IS REPREHENSIBLE.
I'M GOING TO READ THE FOLLOWING FEW LINES FROM A CALIFORNIA STATE PTA RESOLUTION QUOTE, LIMITING CONCURRENT SALES OF GUESTS, OF GASOLINE AND ALCOHOL AT THE PROLIFERATION OF OUTLETS.
WHEREAS THE PROLIFERATION OF OUTLETS, WHICH SELL ALCOHOL WITHIN COMMUNITIES IS GROWING, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF THE INCREASING NUMBERS OF GUESTS STATION MINI MARTS.
AND WHEREAS ADOLESCENT ALCOHOL ABUSE CAN LEAD TO EARLY ADDICTION, INCREASED INCIDENTS OF CRIME AND DEATH RATES.
I E SUICIDE SUICIDES, TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND ACCIDENTAL DEATH.
AND THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CALIFORNIA STATE PTA URGE ITS UNIT COUNCILS AND DISTRICTS TO ENCOURAGE SUPPORT OF REGULATIONS IN THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES, LIMITING THE PROLIFERATION AND AVAILABILITY OF ALCOHOL, THEN DOORS, THE RE THIS RESOLUTION OR JUST PTA IS TO ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT LOCAL REGULATIONS, ORDINANCES TO LIMIT THE PROLIFERATION OF AVAILABILITY OF THESE ALCOHOL VENDORS.
UM, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE RESOLUTION.
YOU CAN READ IT FULLY AT WWW DOT
MY CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL IN DISTRICT TWO AT ORANGEWOOD AND EDGEWOOD ACROSS THE STREET FROM EDGEWOOD.
THERE IS A GAS STATION WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE DIAGONALLY FROM THAT GAS STATION IS ANOTHER GAS STATION WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE ADJACENT TO THAT GAS STATION.
IT'S A 70 11, WHICH ALREADY SELLS ALCOHOL.
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STOP AT THE GAS STATION OUTLETS TO PURCHASE SNACKS AND REFRESHMENTS AN HOUR OR TWO AFTER SCHOOL ATHLETES FROM EDGEWOOD TEND TO GO TO THE CONVENIENCE STORES STORE ACROSS THE STREET FROM EDGEWOOD TO PURCHASE GATORADE AND SNACKS.IT'S COMMON TO SEE STUDENTS OUTSIDE THE GAS STATION, CONVENIENCE STORES, AS THEY SNACK AND CHAT WITH THEIR FRIENDS.
IF THE CITY CHANGES THE ORDINANCE, THEN THERE WILL BE THREE OUTLETS SELLING ALCOHOL WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE FROM EDGEWOOD TO ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS WHERE THERE WILL LIKELY BE MORE CRIME, MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR UNDERAGE DRINKING, MORE DANGER TO CHILDREN AND THE COMMUNITY MORE WORK FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
WHY WOULD ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WANT THIS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY? THE CHANGE IS NOT WORTH IT.
NOT ONLY IS THE MOVE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE SHAMEFUL.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS FRANCIS FRANCIS.
AND ALL OF MY COMMUNITIES MEMBERS THERE ARE PRESENT.
I HOPE YOU, UM, YOUR FAMILIES ARE SAFE AND HEALTHY AND BEING WELL CARED FOR IN THIS TIME.
UM, I AM ASKING, I AM A RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA.
I AM IN DISTRICT ONE SINCE MARCH.
MY HEART HAS BEEN BREAKING REGULARLY.
THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THOSE SHOWS, ALL THOSE KIDDOS, ALL OF THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE LIVING IN HOME, UM, WITH ABUSE THAT NOBODY IS ABLE TO CHECK ON CARE FOR ARE THE MENTAL HEALTH DYNAMICS THAT WE ARE, UM, SURVIVING THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS VERY REAL AND SPIKING IN WAYS THAT WE CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO IMAGINE, LET ALONE SEE WHAT WE'LL ALL HIT IN IN OUR HOMES.
AND I, EH, I JUST THINK IT'S UNNECESSARY COMPLETELY, UTTERLY UNNECESSARY TO INCREASE THE AVAILABILITY OF ALCOHOL WHEN IT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THERE IS NO STRONG BENEFIT TO ADDING ALCOHOL SALES TO GAS STATIONS.
IN FACT, WHAT I THINK ABOUT AND MY OWN PERSONAL FEAR WITH MY THREE KIDS UNDER 10, WHEN I GO TO FILL UP MY GAS OR WHEN I GO TO THE SUPERMARKET IS HOW MUCH OF A SITTING DUCK I AM WITH MY THREE KIDDOS IN THE BACK.
AS I'M WAITING AT A PUMP, TRYING TO WATCH I'M SEEING ANY WHICH DIRECTION, BECAUSE I'M VERY AWARE THAT THE DESPERATION, THE HUNGER, THE OPPRESSION AND THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH ARE SPIKING.
AND I JUST DON'T FEEL SAFE ADDING ALCOHOL TO A GAS STATION WHILE I'M SITTING THERE WHILE PEOPLE MAY BE LOITERING OR GOING THERE INTENTIONALLY WITH THE EXPLICIT PURPOSE OF BUYING BEER AND WINE FOR CONSUMPTION, IT IS A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE.
UM, I THINK IT ALSO, YOU KNOW, BRINGS TO MIND WHAT WE'RE TALKING.
I HAVE HEARD I'VE BEEN AT WESCO FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND I HEAR US CLAIM THAT WE'RE A VERY PRO-BUSINESS CITY, BUT I CONFUSED WITH THE IDEA THAT OUR LOOKER STORES, WHICH ARE SMALL BUSINESSES WOULD HAVE TO COMPETE THEN WITH GAS STATIONS, A BUSINESS THAT HAS NOT HAD ANY, I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS NOT STOPPED SAYING GAS, GAS, GAS STATIONS DON'T NEED HELP TO INCREASE THEIR REVENUE.
BUT WHAT IT MIGHT DO IS DRIVE THAT TOMORROW MOM AND POP LIQUOR STORE OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO I JUST WANT US TO BE REALLY CLEAR WITH WHAT OUR VALUES ARE.
UM, IT IS, I HEARD IN, IN FAVOR OF THE POSITION THAT TIMES ARE CHANGING AND WE NEED TO GET UP TO CODE IT TIMES ARE CHANGING THAT IT'S WHITE, THIS IS 2020.
AND THIS IS THE COMMUNITY AND THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY UNDER EXTREME STRESS AND CHAOS.
SO I URGE YOU PLEASE TO OPPOSE ANY CHANGES.
LET'S TAKE SOME PRIDE IN THE FACT THAT WE ARE STANDING UP FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS BY NOT HAVING GAS STATIONS, GAS STATIONS, WITH WINE, AND THERE IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY AND A MOVE THAT TO SERVE.
I'M NOT CLEAR WHO, BUT I KNOW THAT IT DEFINITELY WOULD NOT SERVE MY HEART OR MY GUT WHILE I'M PUMPING MY GAS OR I'M AT ANY OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY.
WHEN I KNOW IT'S THAT MUCH MORE AVAILABLE, I SINCERELY THANK YOU FOR YOUR AND YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HEART AND VOTING OUT OF GLOVE.
WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE STILL ON THE PHONE.
I WAS GIVEN A SPEAKER CARD BY J D.
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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.OBVIOUSLY I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY I'M DONE.
AH, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL LAST, BUT YEAH, YOU CAN BE OPTIMISTIC.
THERE WAS A TIME YOU SPANS TOMO, WARSAW OR SHAW.
EVEN YOU LLOYD WITH SPAN, CLOSE TO BE UP HERE UNTIL MIDNIGHT DEBATING WHETHER YOU SHOULD APPROVE A FEE OR NOT.
AND SINCE THIS LAST, SINCE IS CONSOLE, I'LL SEE, YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE FIVE MINUTES AFTER ARRIVING EFFICIENCY.
I WANT THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS OR THIS TO KNOW IT'S GOING TO PASS.
IT'S GOING TO PASS BECAUSE NOTHING'S CHANGED SINCE IT LAST FAILED, BUT IT'S BACK THAT TELLS ME THIS IS A DONE DEAL.
THIS IS, WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS HERE.
I THINK EVERYBODY IN THOSE THAT ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT ARE NOT HERE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DECIDED TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE.
SO IT'S KIND OF SAD THAT WHEN SPEAKERS ON THE PHONE OR THOSE THAT COME TO THIS PODIUM ARE SPEAKING REO, OR SOME OTHERS WILL TURN THEIR HEADS AND PRETEND LIKE THEY'RE BORED WITH WHAT'S BEING SAID, AT LEAST GIVE THEM THE DECENCY OF YOUR ATTENTION.
WE DO HAVE A HOMELESS PROBLEM IN A THIRD OF THAT HOMELESS PROBLEM IS DUE TO DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE ALCOHOL CAME BEFORE THE DRUGS AND THERE WAS A TIME DARIA ON THE PLANNING, COMMISSIONING AND YOU ON THIS COUNCIL.
AND I BELIEVE YOU AS WELL, COUNCILMAN LOYD, MARIJUANA, YOU WANTED TO BRING DISPENSARY'S TO WEST COVINA.
I FIND THAT FAR MORE CONSISTENT AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT.
I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU'RE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ALCOHOL.
AND I MEAN SPIRITS, YOU DON'T GET DRUNK OFF BEERS.
SO WHY THE INCONSISTENCY, YOU WON PARODY U OF M SPIRITS APPROVED SPIRITS APPROVE THE MARIJUANA.
WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT? BECAUSE THERE'S A POINT OF SATURATION THAT COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU, YOU NEED TO RESPECT.
THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS, BECAUSE THIS IS VERY SIMILAR WITH THAT EMERGE TO THAT EMERGENCY DECORATION.
IT'S GOING TO BE AS MANY AS APPLY.
AND AS MANY AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TOLD TO APPROVE JUST LIKE THIS ORDINANCE, WATCHING THAT TIME.
SO PEOPLE GET A LITTLE DISCOURAGED WHEN THEY INVEST THEIR TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND HOPE TO HAVE A CITY COUNCIL THAT WILL CONSIDER THEIR PETITION IN PARTIALLY IN AN IMPARTIAL WAY, AS OPPOSED TO HAVE ALREADY DECIDED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND IN THIS CASE, IT COMES THROUGH SO LOUD AND CLEAR BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE HAS COME THROUGH THIS COUNCIL AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS AND IT'S BEEN DENIED.
YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT THERE HAS TO BE A POINT THAT YOU DRAW BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
JUST LIKE MARIJUANA, JUST LIKE SPIRIT, JUST LIKE ALCOHOL.
THERE COMES A POINT WHERE YOU HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, YES, WE LIVE IN A CAPITOL.
THIS COUNTRY, I'M A FREE MARKETER.
I LOVE THE DOLLAR, BUT I LOVE MY BEERS TOO, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN INCONVENIENCE OF GOING TO ANY STORE IN WEST COVINA TODAY AND PICKING UP BEERS.
I DON'T NEED A DRIVE THROUGH TO DO THAT OR A GAS STATION.
THAT'S THAT'S KINDA SILLY STUFF I'M GOING TO STOP THERE.
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I'M GOING TO SAY ONE LAST THING.DO YOU LLOYD, LLOYD, I THINK, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO FOR THIS ADVICE, BUT I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE DONE YOURSELF A LOT OF GOOD.
HAD YOU RECUSED YOURSELF ON THIS VOTE, IF NOT FOR LEGAL REASONS OR THE INTEGRITY OF THIS COUNCIL, I WOULD HAVE HELPED YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION.
IT'S NOT A DISPENSER WAY IS A MONEY WATER CONSERVATION.
IT'S A CULTIVATION CULTIVATION.
THE CULTIVATION WAS ANYWAY, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THEN I DON'T THINK WE PASSED THAT.
I HAVE A PRESENTATION SO HE COULD LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE ON THE PRESENTATIONS, I WAS HOPING THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD ANSWER THEM.
THE FIRST ONE IS RELATED TO THE CAMPAIGN DONATION TO COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SO I JUST WAS WONDERING IF RECEIVING THE CAMPAIGN DONATION FROM A GAS STATION OWNER, UM, WHO STANDS TO GAIN FINANCIALLY FROM THE REMOVAL OF THE LAW, IF THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED ALSO THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR CONVENIENCE STORES TO SELL ALCOHOL.
I WANTED TO GET THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS DISCRIMINATORY.
SO I KNOW THAT THE NARRATIVE THAT'S GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT WILL BE, IT'S ONLY FOR GAS STATIONS.
IT'S NOT ALL THE GAS STATIONS, BUT ALL IT TAKES IS ONE, UM, GAS STATION OWNER TO FILE A LAWSUIT BECAUSE OF SOME SORT OF DISCRIMINATION.
BECAUSE EVERY TIME I'VE ASKED ABOUT THAT 2000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY SORT OF JUSTIFICATION OR IT'S NOT QUANTIFIABLE.
SO TO ME, OBVIOUSLY I WOULD WANT TO LIMIT IT TO FOUR, BUT THE NARRATIVE AGAIN IS GOING TO BE, OH, IT'S ONLY FOUR, BUT WITHIN A DAY WE GET SUED.
IT COULD BE 21 THAT COULD APPLY FOR THIS CUP.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION I WOULD LIKE ANSWER.
UH, THE NEXT SLIDE IS I WOULD LIKE SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY THE POLICE CHIEF.
UM, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT, UH, IMPACTS THEY WERE BE ON IN ENFORCING ALL THE NEW CONDITIONS AND ALL THE NEW OUTLETS.
ALSO, UH, THE IMPACTS ON RESPONDING TO INCREASED CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THESE LOCATIONS.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION IS I THINK WE, WE REALLY HAVE A LACK OF, UM, I GUESS, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE POLICE CHIEF TO EITHER RECOMMEND REMOVAL OF THE LAW OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REMOVING THE LAW AND WHY OR WHY NOT.
I THINK THAT WOULD, UH, PUT THE RESIDENTS AT EASE.
AND I SAID THIS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I SAID, IF THE POLICE CHIEF COMES UP HERE AND SAYS THAT HE SUPPORTS REMOVING THE LAW, THEN REALLY THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN SAY BECAUSE HE'S THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY.
HE HAS THE JEW, YOU KNOW, HE CAN JUSTIFY IT.
SO THAT'S THE QUESTION I WOULD WANT ASKED OF THE POLICE CHIEF.
SO REAL QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THE REST OF MY SLIDES.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH.
I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES INCREASING THE DENSITY OF ALCOHOL LOADS WILL DETERIORATE PUBLIC HEALTH.
UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ACTUALLY HAS A DOCUMENT RELATED TO UNDERAGE DRINKING AND THEY SPECIFICALLY, UH, RECOMMEND RESTRICTING ALCOHOL SALES AT GAS STATIONS.
AND IF YOU CAN SEE THERE TO SAYS, NUMBER TWO, RESTRICT PROHIBIT CONCURRENT SALES OF ALCOHOL AND GASOLINE STATIONS.
AND THEY EVEN SAY THAT JURISDICTIONS WOULD BENEFIT IF THEY HAD AN IMPOSED THE LAW IN 1980, WHICH WE HAVE, UH, IT SAYS IF, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOCAL JURISDICTION HAD ENACTED IN 1980, A LAND USE RESTRICTION THAT PROHIBITED ALCOHOL AND GASOLINE SALES AT AT THE SAME RETAIL OUTLET, THEN THIS MARKETING SCHEME WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN HOLD IN A LOCALITY.
SO THIS IS COMING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
NOT FOR ME, NOT FROM ANY ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE.
THIS IS AN ACTUAL VERIFIABLE DOCUMENT.
SO BY REMOVING THE LAW, WE'RE ACTUALLY CONTRADICTING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
I LOOKED AT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE WEST COVINA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A DATA DRIVEN RECOMMENDATION.
THIS IS NOT AGAIN, ANONYMOUS, ANECDOTAL.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I JUST CAME UP WITH.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT CONVENIENCE STORES THAT SELL ALCOHOL AND YOU LOOK AT GAS STATION, CONVENIENCE STORES, THE INCIDENTS AND CALLS FOR SERVICE AT THE ALCOHOL SALES IS NEARLY DOUBLE GAS STATION, CONVENIENCE STORES.
THEY ALSO HAVE HIGHER RATES OF CRIME AND THEY ALSO HAVE HIGHER ALCOHOL RELATED INCIDENTS.
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NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU COULD POUR THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS YOURSELF AND VERIFY THAT, BUT THIS IS A DATA DRIVEN SOLUTION OR A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WHEN THESE LOCATIONS START SELLING, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE INCIDENTS.
AND THAT COMES WITH INCREASED PUBLIC SAFETY COSTS AND IT'S NOT SCARE TACTICS IT'S DATA.
AND THE LAST, THE NEXT SLIDE I DID A POLL ON NEXT DOOR, TWO THIRDS OF RESIDENTS, OPPOSED IT, UM, THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THE PEOPLE THAT DID SUPPORT IT, AND MOST OF THEM WERE RELATED TO TAX REVENUE.
AND WHEN WE, WHEN THEY WERE CONFRONTED WITH THE FACT THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANY TAX REVENUE, THEY WERE KIND OF AT A, AT A, AT A, AT A DEAD END.
BUT, UM, I'M A MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS STILL OPPOSED IT, TWO THIRDS.
AND I SPECIFICALLY ASKED, SHOULD WEST CORINA ALLOW MORE CONVENIENCE STORES TO SELL ALCOHOL BECAUSE IN THE PAST THEY'VE SAID IF I COULD HAVE 20 MORE SECONDS.
UH, I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IN THE PAST PEOPLE HAVE SAID CONVENIENCE STORES IN GASOLINE STATIONS ARE THE SAME THING.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY SELL ALCOHOL.
AND THEN IN THE NEXT SLIDE I ASKED ON NEXT DOOR, UH, RESIDENTS TAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BACK AND IT WAS 83% OF RESIDENTS THERE, OPPOSED IT.
SO HERE YOU HAVE A CLEAR, UM, I GUESS VOTE.
SO LASTLY, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HOLD OFF TO THE ELECTION, CAUSE THERE'S A CLEAR INDICATION THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THIS GOOD.
UH, IS THAT ANY RESIDENT IN PERSON WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ABOUT THIS ISSUE? UH, IN FAVOR AND OPPOSITION ANYWAY, THE ONE HASN'T SPOKEN.
OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE ORAL COMMUNICATION.
UH, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE ORAL COMMUNICATION.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BACK TO A COUNCIL QUESTION AND DISCUSSION AND I WANT TO START.
SO I, I KNOW RESIDENTS HIT, UM, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON FOR RECEIVING A CAMPAIGN DONATION FROM THE GAS STATION.
I TOO HAVE RECEIVED THE SAME DONATION.
UM, OBVIOUSLY MY VOTE IS DIFFERENT FROM COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, BUT I DID WANT IT TO VERIFY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM, TO MAKE IT CLEAR, IS THIS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, MR. MAYOR? THIS IS NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HEARING TONIGHT, BOTH OF YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? UM, THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, IN REGARDS TO MR. TORRES, UM, IF IT DOES PASS, CAN THE OTHER GAS STATIONS CHALLENGE OR FILE A SUIT FOR DISCRIMINATION AND NOT ALLOWING OTHERS TO SELL? WELL, COUNCIL'S GOING TO NEED TO ARTICULATE SOME BASIS FOR THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT TO WITHSTAND ANY CHALLENGE TO THE ORDINANCE.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS FOR OUR CHIEF, UNLESS LATER.
UH, I HAVE, UH, PIGGYBACK ABOUT MALE PROTEIN QUESTION REGARDING, AND, UH, UH, MR.
AND, UH, I I'M REALLY HAVE A, UM, FIRST QUESTION I HAVE FOR MAYBE JOANNE CAN ANSWER HOW MANY GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORE THAT WE HAVE IN WEST COVINA CITY BOUNDARY ON THE ONE 2220, I BELIEVE 21, ALL GUESTS, ALL GUESTS STATIONS IN WEST COVINA HAVE SOME TYPE OF MONEY.
OH, 21 GAS STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE.
HOW MANY IS THE 2000 SQUARE FEET AND UP AND HOW MANY IS 1500 AND UP.
AND HOW MANY? 1000 AND UP, HOW MANY IS BELOW 1000 IN YOUR STORE? MEANING WE USE A CONVENIENCE STORE MINI YOU SELLING ANY OLDER BEVERAGE.
OH, A SNACK FOR PEOPLE TO PICK IT UP AND THEY PUMP THE GAS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBER FOR THAT? I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
WE OBTAINED INFORMATION ON THE GASOLINE ON HOW MANY CONVENIENCE STORES OR GASOLINE STATIONS HAVE CONVENIENCE STORES FROM THE, THIS IS LICENSED DATA IN THE BUSINESS LICENSE.
STATE IS NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE SIZE OF IT.
I KNOW, BUT, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR, I THINK, COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION REGARDING OKAY.
BECAUSE WE, IF WE RESTRICT THE 2000 SQUARE FEET AND THEN WE HAVE TO KNOW WHO IS 1850 OR 1900 ODD.
SO WE NEED, THEY ARE SO CLOSE, BUT THEY NOT QUITE SO MANY THEY'RE OUT OF THE LOOP.
SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY CONVENIENCE STORE, OTHERWISE NOT FAIR TO THEM.
AND HOW MANY IS 1500? THEY SHOUT OUT 500.
SO MANY TO HAVE A VERY SMALL CONVENIENCE STORE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, CAN WE CALL THEM CONVENIENCE STORE OR THEY JUST SOMETHING, A ROOM FOR YOU TO PICK UP SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY, JUST A SODA OR DRINK.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A SURVEY ABOUT WHAT A GAS STATION, THE DEFINITION OF A CONVENIENCE STORE, WHERE THEY JUST, OKAY.
THEY MEANT 2000 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE HOW THE FAIRNESS.
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OKAY.WE TALK ABOUT FAIRNESS TO ALL THE GAS STATION.
AND, UH, AND IT'S, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF ALL THAT AS FAR AS HOW MANY? NO, I WOULD SAY THAT AGAIN, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH CONVENIENCE STORE.
HOW MANY IS OKAY AT 1900, 1500 SOMETHING, B WHO IS BETWEEN 15, LET'S MAKE IT EASIER TO THOUSAND UP.
I BELIEVE THAT AS FAR AS THE 2000 SQUARE FEET, LESS THAN FIVE CONVENIENT GASOLINE STATIONS, LESS THAN 5 MILLION FOR APPROXIMATELY WE JOANNE, WE NEED TO HAVE A EXACT NUMBER.
SO HOW MANY? BETWEEN 1500 TO 2000, WE DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
AND HOW MANY? LIKE 1000 UNDERGRADS.
AND WE NEED TO KNOW THE DEFINITION OF A CONVENIENCE STORE THAT GO WITH THE ISTATION.
SO WE NEED TO PREPARE ALL THIS NUMBER.
SO I THINK COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE YOU JUST PUT A 2000, I THINK THIS DOCUMENTARY OKAY.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE PUT ON THE LOCATION.
LOCATION OF A GAS STATION TO SELL BEER AND WINE THAT MAYBE MAKE MORE SENSE THE CASE THEY ARE AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL AWAY FROM THE, AND THEY ON THE BUSY STREET.
NOW BY SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT SHOULD BE BY LOCATION.
AND IT'S STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO GO TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND GOES THROUGH THE HEARING.
SO WE HAVE A, ANOTHER LAYER OF, UH, MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS OKAY.
SO ANYWAY, WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.
THEN THERE'S THE SECOND INFORMATION REGARDING THE POLICE REPORT.
TO HELP POLICE TALK ABOUT THIS? SO TELL ABOUT, I THINK THE PEOPLE WORRY.
I THINK IT'S, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OKAY.
VERY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY SCARED ABOUT WHAT IS CREATE MORE CRIME.
AND, UH, WE DO NEED THESE PANDEMIC TIME.
SO MAYBE POLICE CAN GIVE US A REPORT.
I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE, YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY YOU FOUGHT.
THIS IS HOW YOUR BUSINESS IS OUR CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS, BUT YOU NEED TO TELL US ABOUT THE DATA NUMBER.
UM, I'M SORRY, BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I CAN'T JUST SNEAK OUT FOR A COMFORT BREAK, SO I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT CAN WE TAKE A, LIKE, CAN YOU DO THIS? CAN YOU GO TO THE, YOU WANT TO GO BATHROOM? CAN'T BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO, CAN YOU HOLD ON, LET THE POLICE FINISH AND THE POLICE TO CCO, WE COME DOWN.
UM, ARE YOU OKAY? LET'S GO AHEAD AND POLICE, AS YOU COME DOWN, I DON'T WANT TO SUSPENSE.
MAYOR, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICAL DATA.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL ALCOHOL PLACES THAT YOU'VE PUT IN PLACE WILL INCREASE COSTS FOR SERVICES.
UM, THOSE CALL FOR SERVICE SOMETIMES CAN CONSUME A MINIMUM OF TWO OFFICERS.
SOMETIMES THREE, IT CAN LAST FOR OVER AN HOUR THAT WILL IMPACT SERVICE TO THE CITY.
UM, BUT AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS PRESENTED WITH SOME OF THE PRA REQUEST, UM, I'VE FOUND THAT, UH, SOME OF THE DATA IS, UM, UH, NOT QUITE UNDERSTOOD.
SO THERE WAS ONE REPORT THAT SAID THERE WAS A, UM, I THINK I HAVE IT HERE.
I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE, UM, 15,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE, UM, UM, OVER THESE CONVENIENCE STORES.
AND AS I STARTED TO GO THROUGH AND HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT WAS RELATED TO ALCOHOL, THOSE NUMBERS WERE FAR LESS THAN WHAT'S STATED IN HERE.
ARE THE CALLS GOING TO INCREASE? YES.
ARE ALL THE CALLS, UH, CALLED IN FROM THE CONVENIENCE STORE? ARE THEY ALL ALCOHOL RELATED? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.
AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
A POLICE OFFICER CAN MAKE A TRAFFIC STOP IN FRONT OF THE LIQUOR STORE AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LIQUOR STORE, BUT GIVE THE ADDRESS OF THE LIQUOR STORE.
AND THAT'S COUNTED BY THE LIQUOR STORE.
UM, UH, AN ELDERLY PERSON COULD HAVE AN EPISODE TROUBLE BREATHING IN FRONT OF THE LIQUOR STORE AT THE LIQUOR STORE.
RESCUE SHOWS UP, GIVE THAT ADDRESS.
THAT'S COUNTED AS A CALL FOR SERVICE.
SO AS I STARTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, I FOUND THAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE GREATLY DIMINISHED.
HOWEVER, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, ALCOHOL, UM, RELATED CALLS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE IMPACTED AND WE'VE BEEN REDUCED DOWN TO 90 OFFICERS THIS YEAR.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY OFFICERS AVAILABLE.
SO YES, UH, THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE.
UM, IT WAS ONE OF THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO DUI DRIVING.
UM, I WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD
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DRAW A CORRELATION BETWEEN ALCOHOL PURCHASED IN WEST COVINA IN OUR DUI DRIVING.AND I COULD NOT FIND ANY CORRELATION TO THAT.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT SOMEONE WE ARRESTED DID NOT PURCHASE ALCOHOL IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, BUT THEY COULD HAVE BEEN DRIVEN FROM ANY CITY AND GOT STOPPED DRIVING THROUGH WEST COVINA AND WE MAKE AN ALCOHOL ARREST.
SO I DID A STUDY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS ON ALCOHOL, UH, DUI ARREST INFORMATION.
AND I FOUND THAT IN FIVE YEARS THERE WAS 707 DUI ARREST.
UH, BUT WE AVERAGE 80,000 INCIDENTS A YEAR.
SO WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP OVER FIVE YEARS, YOU'VE GOT 40,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE AND THE INCIDENTS.
SO COMPETITIVELY, IT'S A SMALL NUMBER.
UM, THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN FROM 2014 TO 2019 BY 37%.
SO I COULDN'T FIND THAT CORRELATION.
SO I CAN'T SAY THAT BY HAVING THESE, UM, CONVENIENCE STORES IS GOING TO BE MORE, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT POTENTIAL THOUGH.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL THE DATA I HAVE, UH, WITHOUT ADDING MY OWN PERSONAL, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.
SINCE YOU GOT THE DATA, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A GAS STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE SELLING THE BEER AND WINE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA, BUT DID YOU HAVE A COMPARISON DATA, FOR EXAMPLE, COVINA.
I'M AUNTIE I THINK MAYBE IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMILAR POPULATION SIZE.
THEY'RE SELLING ALCOHOL, WHAT NUMBER THEY HAVE OKAY.
WITH THE CALL SO WE CAN GET A DATA.
SO WE KNOW WE CAN COMPARE IN THAT WAY, IS THAT REALLY INCREASED IF THE GAS STATION SELLING ALCOHOL AND THE DUI AND THE UNDERAGE USE THE FAKE ID.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE DATA IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION, INCLUDING MYSELF, BECAUSE WE WILL, THE SAFETY, I THINK IT'S EVERYBODY CONCERNED.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE THE DATA COMPARISON.
DO WE HAVE A LEAD DATA? I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT EACH CITY IS DIFFERENT.
UM, YOU'RE COMPARING US TO EL MONTE OR GLENDORA THE DEMOGRAPHICS DIFFERENT, THE EDUCATION LEVEL IS DIFFERENT.
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY PEOPLE MAKE ARE DIFFERENT.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT COMPARISON.
WE CAN, WE, WE CAN DRAW THOSE NUMBERS AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS CONVENIENCE STORE SELLS ALCOHOL VERSUS THAT ONE.
BUT THE NUMBERS HAVE TO BE IDENTICAL IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE A COMPARISON.
AND THE CITY WEST COVINA, 17 SQUARE MILE, THE SOUTH SIDE, NORTH SIDE, EAST, WEST SIDE, THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
BUT, BUT THE THING IS THE HUMAN BEING, THE HUMAN BEHAVIOR IS THE SAME.
SO WE WANT TO COMPARE, UH, THE, THE ALCOHOL, THE SELLING, OKAY.
I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE OF DATA ON THE EL MONTE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SEEING THE NUMBER OKAY.
COMPARE WITH SOME OF THE PLACES.
I THINK WE CAN TAKE, BASICALLY WE HAVE SOME NUMBERS TO BASE ON WHAT THAT IS.
SO BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF THEY APPROVE, OKAY, WE WILL APPROVE.
THEY'LL BASICALLY THE FLOOD GATES OPEN.
AND WHEN IT'S OPEN, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CLOSE IT.
SO WE WANT TO BE VERY CAREFULLY.
SO FROM THERE, WE CAN SEE THE GENUINE, IT'S REALLY NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE WORRY IS TOO MUCH.
THEY WANT IT ALL TO DO WITH THE DATA.
WE JUST SHOWING THE INCREASE AND WE DON'T HAVE A POLICE OFFICER ENOUGH DUE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO RETIRE A LOT OF PEOPLE, OKAY.
DOING PANDEMIC SIXTIES, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE DURING THIS TIME WE CAN PROTECT ALL THE RESIDENT.
I THINK THAT YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT OF VIEW.
I VIEW IN THE DATA, IF WE CAREFULLY TO, TO GET ALL THE NUMBER, I THINK THAT'S OUR JOB.
I CAN CHECK WITH DIFFERENT CITIES.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO GET THEIR NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PULL THEM.
CAN WE GET IT? CAN WE GET A NUMBER I'M GOING TO TRY? I THINK, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A WICKER.
I THINK THIS IS A POPULAR RECORD WE GOT IN.
HOW MANY CALLS THEY HAVE OF A POLICE STATION? SORRY, THE GAS STATION.
AND THE SELLING ALCOHOL IN EL MONTE, OR MAYBE COVINA OUR NEIGHBOR, CT OF WHAT, HOW MANY CALLS THEY HAVE COMPARED WITH OUR GAS STATION? HOW MANY? BECAUSE WE ARE NEIGHBORS.
SO HOW MANY ARE BOWEN PARK? OKAY.
IF WE WERE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER OF WHY IS THE CALL? I THINK WHY THE WAY WE CAN SEE THE NUMBER AND GET TO DO A JUDGMENT, I'M SURE I CAN GET THE NUMBER OF HOW MANY GAS STATIONS, SO ALCOHOL AND WHAT THEIR CALLS FOR SERVICES.
I CAN HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR YOU.
SO I THINK WE SAID NUMBERED, IF THE NUMBER IS REALLY THE SAME, THEN WE GOT TO PROVE, OKAY, WE LET PROVE.
AND THE SAME TIME WITH HOW MANY SQUARE FOOTAGE.
ALL THAT KIND OF ISSUE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A POTENTIAL LAWSUIT BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU HAVE A KIND OF A PHABLET JUST FOR A SMALL GROUP THAT MORE THAN 2000, I THINK THIS IS A POTENTIAL ISSUE.
IF WE ONLY RESTRICTED THE FACE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, I THINK BASED ON LOCATION WOULD BE MUCH SAFER
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RATHER THAN BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.SO, SO I THINK THAT THIS DATA IS VERY IMPORTANT.
COMPARE WITH NIBBLING CT, WITH A GAS STATION SELLING WINE.
AND THOUGH, IF WE CAN SEE WHAT THE CALL NUMBER COMPARE WITH OURS, SO WHAT WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE? SURE.
I'LL TRY TO ALIGN IT UP SO THAT IT'S A FAIR KIND OF COMPARISON, BUT I'LL GET THAT DATA FOR YOU.
WOULD YOU PLEASE, SO, SO I THINK WITH THAT.
AND, UH, AND THERE'S A COMMAND POST AND YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
REMEMBER YOU WANT THE CHIEF TO ANSWER AND THE UK HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THIS, THIS ISSUE IS MORE OF AN ALCOHOL ISSUE, MORE THAN ANYTHING, NOT JUST A GAS STATION, BECAUSE IT DOES CONCERN ME THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE BUSINESSES THAT ARISE UP AND THEY'RE SELLING ALCOHOL.
WE HAVE A NEW SEVEN, 11, IT SELLS ALCOHOLIC.
IT COULD BE NEAR THE SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH.
THAT DOES CONCERN ME THAT 99 CENT STORE SELLS CHEAP ALCOHOL AND FOR ONE CONTAINER.
UM, I'M SURPRISED THAT NOBODY CHALLENGED THE COUNTY FOR ALLOWING ALCOHOL TO BE TAKEN HOME TECHNICALLY ON AN OPEN CONTAINER.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, NOBODY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT THAT, THAT CONCERNS ME, THAT, THAT A BIG ISSUE, UM, GENERIC AND IN GENERAL, UM, I WANTED TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS WHOLE COVID, UM, WITH THE RECENT BUSINESSES THAT ARE SELLING ALCOHOL AND WITH THE WHOLE COVERT THAT ALLOWS THE ALCOHOL TO BE TAKEN HOME, HAVE YOU SENT AN, SEEN AN INCREASE IN CALLS OR OUT ALCOHOL RELATED? UM, IN GENERAL ITEMS IN OUR CITY, NOT, NOT ACCORDING TO THE ARREST DATA.
UM, I LOOKED AT THE COST FOR SERVICE BACK THROUGH MARCH, WHICH IS WHEN THIS STARTED AND THERE'S BEEN FAR LESS THAN PREVIOUS YEARS.
UH, BUT AGAIN, UH, THE CONTACTS ARE DOWN.
UM, UH, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE PEOPLE WEREN'T OUT, UH, THE STREETS WERE CLEAR, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAIR THAT DATA IS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO USE AS A COMPARISON.
BUT, UM, THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN ALARMING INCREASE OF ANY ALCOHOL RELATED ARREST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT I CAN SEE.
UM, I'D HAVE TO DIG INTO THE NUMBERS A LITTLE MORE TO GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT JUST GLANCING AT THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN I'M A PIGGYBACK QUESTION ON THE, UM, OKAY.
W OWNED A CONVENIENCE STORE TO SELL THEM BEER AND WINE OR ALCOHOL.
THE HOMELESS OR TRANSIENT OR ANY OF, UH, POTENTIAL PEOPLE DRUNK IN PUBLIC AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL OF THESE CONVENIENCE STORES, I FOUND CALLS WHERE THERE WERE DRUNK IN PUBLIC.
UH, WE CALL IT SIX 47 EPISODE.
THERE'S PEOPLE THERE THAT HAVE OBVIOUSLY CONSUMED ALCOHOL AND IS GOING BACK FOR MORE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STOP THAT IF YOU'RE SELLING ALCOHOL AND THE PLACE IS CONVENIENT, PEOPLE ARE GONNA ARE GOING TO SHOW UP THERE.
NOW THE CORRELATION TO HOMELESSNESS, NOT ALL HOMELESSNESS DRINK, UH, BUT, BUT ARE THERE HOMELESS AROUND PLACES THAT SELL ALCOHOL TO ANSWER TO THAT IS YES.
BUT THE, THE LIQUOR STORE THEY SELL IN HALAKHA RIGHT ON.
SO WILL THAT BE A DIFFERENCE OR LET THE SAME, WELL, IF YOU ARE AN ALCOHOL DRINKER, UM, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GO WHEREVER YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON ALCOHOL, IF IT MEANS THAT MUCH TO YOU.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A PROBLEM, NOT THOSE PEOPLE WHO DRINK RESPONSIBLY.
SO, UM, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT ACCURATELY FOR YOU, BUT, BUT, BUT THE, THE POINT IS BASED ON YOUR, OKAY, IT'S A PLEA CHIEF, ALTHOUGH RANKA COOL IN THE, YOU HAVE HIS CONVENIENCE STORE.
WHEN NOW WE HAVE MORE COLD FOR THAT PEOPLE DRUNK IN PUBLIC, AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, THE MERE FACT THAT YOU'RE SELLING ALCOHOL CREATES THAT IF YOU'RE NOT SELLING ALCOHOL, THEN YOU CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT A PERSON THAT DRINKS CAN'T GO TO A CONVENIENCE STORE, BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE SELLING ALCOHOL, THERE'S MORE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'RE GONNA PROTECT SOMEONE WHO'S DRINKING.
HOW ABOUT FOR THE FAIRNESS? OKAY.
THE CONVENIENCE STORE OR POTENTIALLY, OKAY.
A GAS STATION SELLING BEER AND WINE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT BAR, RESTAURANT, RESTAURANT, THEY SELLING BEER AND WINE.
LIKE ALL THE PLACES WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME UP, THEY SELL HIM BEER AND WINE.
WE'LL LET CREATE CON CAN WE COMPARE THAT? OKAY.
TOO LATE IS THAT APPLE TO APPLE IS APPLE TO AN ORANGE.
I THINK A RESTAURANT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
USUALLY THERE FOR SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WHEN YOU'RE EATING YOU'RE CONVERSATING.
I MEAN, CAN YOU GET DRUNK AT A RESTAURANT? THE ANSWER IS YES.
UM, BUT COMPARING THAT TO A CONVENIENCE STORE, I THINK IS DIFFERENT.
SO WE CANNOT COMPARE BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S ARGUING SAY, HEY, IF, IF Y IF A OKAY, WESTERN SELLING, UH, ALCOHOL, WHY APPEAL AND WHY, OR WHY NOT? OKAY.
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GAS STATION.SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO UNDERSTAND COMPARE WITH TWO.
THEY HAVE, WELL, ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES RESTAURANTS USUALLY SHUT DOWN AT NINE, 10, 11, NOT NINE, BUT NOW IT'S NINE, BUT 10 OR 11 WHERE CONVENIENCE STORES WILL STAY OPEN UNTIL AS LATE AS TWO IN THE MORNING.
AND THEN WE ONLY CAN SELL ALCOHOL TWO O'CLOCK THAT'S.
UM, SO YOU WILL SEE, UM, INCIDENTS SUCH AS THE, UH, FIGHTS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS HAPPENING IN THE LATE HOUR OF THE NIGHT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE ALCOHOL.
YOU USUALLY DON'T FIND THAT AT THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT CLOSES DOWN.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR COMPARISON.
BESIDES YOU CAN GET THE DATA WE GOT IN THE GAS STATION, SELLING BEER AND WINE.
AND ALL THE CITY COVINA AND THE NAME ARE ENABLING CT TO SEE THE NUMBER.
UH, GET SOME OTHER INFORMATION.
AND, UH, HOW, HOW HOUSEHOLDS GAS STATION.
AND THAT THEY, THEY, THEY PICK UP THREE CONTAINER.
I THINK THREE CONTAINER IS LIKE VERY SINGLE.
THE CELLS BELIEVE IN QUANTITY FEWER.
SO WILL THAT BE AN ISSUE BASED ON THE POLICE? YOU ARE OKAY.
BECAUSE YOU GO TO THE, YOU BASICS, PAIR, YOU GET, UH, OKAY.
AND THEY PUT, PUT IN YOUR, UH, OKAY.
AND, UH, WE KNOW IT, YOU CAN NOT HAVE AN OPEN CONTAINER WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING.
SO WITH THIS, WOULD THAT BE AN ISSUE? THE SIZE THREE CONTAINER.
FEWER THAN THREE CONTENTMENT IS PROHIBIT THREE CONTEND.
THAT IS THREE, ONE, TWO, THREE.
I'VE SEEN STORES WHERE THEY SELL PACKAGES OF THREE.
UM, UH, THAT'S A ABC ISSUE THAT I'D HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE IF IT'S LEGAL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NOT UP TO SIX CONTAINERS.
SO IN THAT WAY TO BE ABLE TO PEOPLE JUST GET A SIX PACK.
AND THEN, SO THAT'S THREE BASIC, ALMOST LIKE A SINGLE ONE.
YOU CAN MAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, I SAID POLICE OFFICE.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, LITTLE EASIER.
IF YOU JUST BUY ONE TO CONSUME IT RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, OPPOSED TO A SIX PACK.
BUT I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE LAWS IN PLACE THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DRIVE AND DRINK.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO OPEN THE CONTAINER IN YOUR CAR.
AND, AND, UH, TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, MAYOR.
UM, I, I DEAL, I WORK IN LA OBVIOUSLY, AND I DEAL WITH OUR SENIOR LEAD OFFICERS.
WE DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO DRINK AND STUFF.
UM, MY SENIOR LEAD OFFICER SAYS THAT WHEN GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF IT'S THREE OR UNDER EASY DAY, BUT WHEN, WHEN THEY HAVE TO PURCHASE BULKS, THEY FIND IT, UM, STATISTICALLY THAT THEY DON'T DRINK AS MUCH BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO JUST GO BY.
THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE FOR NOT JUST ONE ALCOHOL.
IF YOU'RE A DRINKER AND YOU'RE BUYING ONE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING THERE TO DRINK IT USUALLY HAVE THEIR FRIENDS OR SOMETHING.
SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL PLANNING APPROVE.
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SIX PACK ALL CASE.
SO IN THAT WAY, CAN WE DO USE, I, IN SPEAKING TO YOU, YOU CAN ONLY DO THIS, BUT IF IT IS OKAY, YOU HAVE TO BUY A QUANTITY.
SO IN THAT WAY, PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET A CHIP.
SO IT'S AGAIN, A CONSTANT PAYPHONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FOR IT AND WHY NOW WE HAVE PAINFUL, BUT IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY TO PUT IT.
I DON'T EVEN KIND OF SEE THE PAYPHONE PAYPHONE, LIKE AN ANCIENT MACHINE.
LIKE YOU WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF YOU PAY PHONE RIGHT THERE.
SO I MIGHT USE A CELL PHONE RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND NOW THE QUESTION YOU HAVE A NEW, CONSTANTLY HAVE A QUESTION.
I HAVE A BUNCH OF OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WILL NOT BE DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU.
UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY LAST YEAR, WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND WAS IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOST, IF NOT, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED BY MAYOR WOO WERE ANSWERED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
HAVE YOU SEEN A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IN THAT INFORMATION SINCE A YEAR AGO? NO, I HAVEN'T.
THE INFORMATION IS RELATIVELY THE SAME.
I REMEMBER WHEN THIS ARGUMENT CAME UP LAST TIME AND THIS THE SAME ARGUMENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A DECISION THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE.
HAVE YOU SEEN A BIGGER INCREASE BECAUSE RESTAURANTS WERE BROUGHT UP AND, YOU KNOW, THE TRADITIONAL SENSES, PEOPLE SIT THERE AND DRINK THEIR DRINKS AND MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE AS LONG OF A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT WITH COVID, UM, RESTAURANTS ARE NOW ALLOWED TO PUT IN TO GO CUPS ALCOHOL.
SO ARE YOU SEEING MORE DUIS FROM THOSE SALES? UM, I ADDRESSED THAT AND I HAVE NOT AS OF NOW, BUT, UM, AGAIN,
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UH, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY LESS OFFICERS ON THE STREET AND WE ARE, UH, NOT AS ACTIVE AS WE WERE BECAUSE OF COBIT.SO COULD THERE BE THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN THE NUMBERS TO, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A DATA.
AND I DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET THAT DATA ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
AND THEN, UM, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, ARE WE HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF GROCERY STORES TARGET ANY OTHER STORES IN THE CITY THAT SELL ALCOHOL THAT ARE ALLOWED TO SELL SINGLE CANS? DO WE HAVE PEOPLE STANDING IN THE PARKING LOTS AND CRACKING ONE OPEN AND COMPARISON? YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.
UM, I DON'T KNOW OF ALL THE STORES THAT SELL SINGLES VERSUS VERSUS SIX PACKS, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE IN HERE, THAT GAS STATIONS THAT MAY BE APPROVED BY A, GET A CUP, CANNOT SELL AND PACKAGES LOWER THAN THREE.
CURRENTLY GROCERY STORES, TARGET BEVMO LIQUOR STORES CAN SELL IN PACKAGES OF ONE.
AND SO, UM, IF IT IS MORE LIKELY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CRACK ONE OPEN, WHY ARE WE NOT LOOKING AT THEM TO SAY PUT THE SAME THREE CAN LIMIT? BECAUSE I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT IF YOU'RE C IT WOULD MORE LIKELY SEE AN ISSUE.
IF YOU ARE ABLE TO BUY ONE THAT YOU WOULD BE SEEING THAT AT THOSE TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENT, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.
IF, IF AN INDIVIDUAL WANTS TO BUY A SINGLE BEER AND HE KNOWS WHERE THAT LOCATION IS, THAT'S WHERE HE'S GOING TO GO GET IT.
SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF IF THE CONVENIENCE STORE SELL THREE, THEY'RE GOING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN CRACK WIDE OPEN THERE.
IF THEY WANT A SINGLE BEAR, THEY'LL GO A PLACE.
IF ANYTHING, IT MIGHT BE A DETERRENT.
IF YOU WANT A SINGLE BEER VERSUS HAVING TO BUY A THREE OR SIX PACK AT USUALLY A HIGHER COST.
OKAY? SO THOSE ARE MY ONLY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AND THEN HOW SOON YOU CAN GET THOSE DATA, FOUND THE GAS STATIONS TELLING YOU KNOW, WHY IN OUR ENABLING CT, ALL THOSE NUMBERS CAN PROVIDE FOR COUNCIL.
WE'LL START WORKING ON THAT TOMORROW.
THE HOUSE THAT WE CAN REACH IT OUT.
SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU A DEFINITE TIMELINE AND THE JOANNE HOUSEHOLD, WE CAN CANCEL THOSE NUMBER WITHOUT IN 1800, 1900 SQUARE FEET, BECAUSE WE'RE NOW THEY WANT US TO APPROVE 2000 SQUARE FEET.
SO-CALLED A FAIRNESS ISSUE AND A POTENTIAL LAWSUIT AND THE HOUSE WHERE WE CAN KIDS, THOSE NUMBER PROVIDE FOR COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE TO PHYSICALLY GO OUT THERE.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT A PHONE CALL MAKE A PHONE CALL.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT THERE.
YOU, I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE BUSINESS.
I THINK PAULINA IS ALL THE NUMBER.
JUST CALL THEM UP AND SAY, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET, CONVENIENCE STORE, HOW BIG IS YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE? THEY ALL KNOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO, OKAY.
BASED ON THIS SQUARE FOR THE PAY, THE, THE BUSINESS TAX.
SO ANYWAY, THIS IS MY, I THINK YOU DON'T, IT'S ONLY FUNDING ONE.
YOU'LL SAY 21 HAS A CONVENIENCE STORE.
YOU TELL THEM, HEY, HOW BIG IS YOU DON'T KNOW.
THEN WE SEND PEOPLE TO MEASURE.
SO AT LEAST WE CAN HAVE A SURVEY AND AS SOMETIMES AS TEND TO, THEY WANT TO APPLY BEYOND WINE.
AND THESE THINGS SHOULD GO TO PLANNING TO SET UP THE OTHER CALL REGARDING ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS FOR LAND.
I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE.
SO IN THAT WAY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO RUSH THIS THING.
THIS SEEMS NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO DO IT DUE TO THE BUDGET ISSUE.
I THINK WITH THIS THING, WE SHOULD GET ALL THE DATA.
CAN I FINISH ASKING MY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MAIL.
NO, THAT'S WHO I MENTIONED BEFORE.
THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
UM, WE DO HAVE PLANNING COMMISSIONER, HER BREAD HOLDS HERE.
AND FROM WHAT I RECALL FROM LAST YEAR, IT WAS FOR CONVENIENCE STATIONS, UH, GAS STATIONS THAT HAD A CONVENIENCE STORE OF 2000 SQUARE FEET OR MORE THAT WOULD MEET IT.
UM, I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAD THE NUMBERS THAT I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, UM, RIGHT NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STATIONS.
AND I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER RED HOLDS DO YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN A YEAR AGO, SO I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S CHANGED MUCH.
UM, I KNOW YOU DON'T HANDLE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT, UM, IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY THE 2000 SQUARE FEET, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OR REQUIREMENTS TO ESTABLISH
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REASONING BEHIND THE DECISION FOR 2000 SQUARE FEET? UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ARTICULATE SOME BASIS FOR, AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.SOMEHOW WHY YOU'RE CHOOSING 2000 FEET, YOU CAN ELIMINATE THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT IF THE COUNCIL SO DESIRES THE REQUIREMENT RIGHT AFTER THAT PROVIDES A 10% OF THAT FLOOR AREA RATIO.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING SMALLER THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S 1500, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT 150 SQUARE FEET OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT SOME, UM, RETAIL UP HERE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ARTICULATE SOME BASIS AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE, WHY YOU WOULD LIMIT IT TO THE 2000 SQUARE FEET.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY REASONING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS TO WHY THEY CHOSE THE 2000 SQUARE FEET THAT WOULD MEET THOSE STANDARDS? UM, I'M NOT JOANNE.
WE JUST HAD A QUICK DISCUSSION.
JOANNE SAID THERE WERE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
MAYBE SHE CAN, UH, HELP OUT WITH THAT.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ONE OF THE COMMENTS REGARDING THE TWO SQUARE FEET.
THEY, THEY S UM, SINCE THEY LIMITED IT TO 10% OF THE, THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF THE, OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE, UM, A SMALL, THEY FELT THAT A SMALLER, A SMALLER, UM, CONVENIENCE STORE.
WOULD IT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE SALES OF BEER AND WINE, BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE US A LOT SMALLER AREA.
UM, UH, MR. JORDAN, DO YOU FEEL THAT THAT MEETS THE STANDARD? YEAH, THAT WOULD LEAVE THE CITY.
SO IT'S A CHALLENGE WITHOUT ORDINANCE, BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN REMOVE THAT CONDITION.
YOU HAVE THAT SECOND CONDITION WITH 10%, UM, UM, WHERE THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 10% OF THE RETAIL FLOOR AREA SHALL BE ALLOWED FOR THE DISPLAY AND SALE OF ALCOHOL.
UM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO CHANGE THAT PERCENTAGE? SURE.
YOU NEED TO ARTICULATE A BASIS FOR THAT AGAIN AS WELL.
WHY, WHY YOU WOULD CHANGE THAT BAIT? WHY WOULD YOU WANT A HIGHER OR LOWER PERCENTAGE? OKAY.
UM, IT'S INTERESTED, UH, LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS, BECAUSE WE HEAR THAT ALLOWING BEER AND WINE AT GAS STATIONS, UH, WITH SATURATED, OUR CITY, THAT'S ALREADY SATURATED WITH LIQUOR, BUT OH, NO, YOU MAY PUT A LIQUOR STORE OUT OF BUSINESS.
I, IT JUST DOESN'T COMPUTE IN MY MIND BECAUSE THEY WOULD SEEM TO BE CONTRADICTORY.
I NEVER WANT TO PUT A SMALL BUSINESS OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT HOW ON ONE HAND, CAN YOU SAY BEER AND WINE WILL SATURATE AN ALREADY OVERSATURATED CITY YET? IT WOULD ALSO CAUSE LIQUOR STORES WHO SELL HARDER LIQUOR TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO, UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
THERE WAS A COMMENT REGARDING THE 2000 SQUARE FEET REQUIREMENT AND THAT WHO'S TO STOP ANOTHER COUNCIL FROM GETTING RID OF THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP ANOTHER COUNCIL GOING FORWARD.
JUST LIKE THERE'S NOTHING THAT STOPS THIS CURRENT COUNCIL FROM REMOVING THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT OR REMOVING THE ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS BEER AND WINE AT, UM, A GAS STATION.
UM, I DO NOT WANT TO DELAY THIS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I DO AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE TABLED BECAUSE, UH, FOR DIFFERENT REASONS THEN, UH, MAYOR WOO.
BUT FOR ME, WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE HAVE THE REASONING IN PLACE TO WITHSTAND A CHALLENGE TO THIS ORDINANCE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
A ROLL CALL PLEASE, TO TABLE THIS FOR, FOR THE DISCUSSION.
AND WE NEED TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT WE JUST REQUEST.
AND THEN WE GOT ALL THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND THEN REGARDING THE CHALLENGE OF WHAT LED TO PUTTING BACK TO, TO US, UH, FOR FUTURE, UH, MEETING.
MR. MAYOR, IS THIS, ARE YOU GONNA, ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE DATE, CERTAIN, THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 17TH? OR ARE YOU GOING, UM, YOU WANT US TO RE NOTICE IT? I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, WE NOTICED ABOUT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WE WANT HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE, AGAIN, OKAY.
WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO GET HIS OLD DATA, ALL THE INFORMATION WHERE NOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF POLICE AND THEY'LL DO WE HAVE INCREASED THE CALL IF WE DO IN THIS? SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RUSH THIS THING
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DURING THIS DIETING.WE SHOULD TAKE THE TIME, GET ALL THE INFORMATION, GO OUT THE DATA AND STUFF ON THERE.
AND IF EVERYTHING LOOK OKAY, THEN FINE.
BUT IF THEY HAVE INCREASED THE ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD DO IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO WASH IT.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE TO DO THIS RIGHT AWAY.
DO WE HAVE A BUDGET? IT'S NOT A BUDGET ISSUE.
AND IF IT'S EVERYTHING NUMBER IS OKAY, THEN WE SHOULD BE OKAY.
MR. MAYOR, I ACTUALLY HAVE A, UM, COMPETING SUGGESTION AND THAT IS TO APPROVE THIS FOR FIRST READING AND HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE, UM, I WOULD LIKE WITH, UH, THE RATIONALE TO SUPPORT THAT WE CAN DO THE 2000, UH, MY MOTIONS TABLE DID FOR POACHER, FOR GETTING ALL THE DATA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH APPROVE THIS ISSUE.
IF WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS ISSUE, YOU SHOW, UM, AND MEN AS A, MY MOTION TO CHANGE TO APPROVAL, BECAUSE WHY NOW MY MOTION HAS NOTHING TO DO APPROVE OF MY MOTION OR THE FUTURE DISCUSSION.
AND THAT'S WHY I AM MENTIONING THAT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE NOT TABLE.
I'M HAVING DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
SO BASICALLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SECOND, OKAY.
SO YOU WILL SECOND THE TABLE IT'S ALREADY BEEN SECONDED, WHICH IS WHY IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION NOW.
SO SHE DIDN'T MENTION, YOU KNOW, CHANGING LIKE THE PERCENTAGE AND STUFF.
SO EVEN IF WE DO THE FIRST READING, THERE'S GOING TO BE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO BE CHANGED ON THIS.
SO THERE'S NO POINT OF APPROVING THIS.
I MEAN, IT SHOULD BE ALL TABLED ALTOGETHER.
I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHO DOES TIER.
WE GET ALL THE DATA, DATA, AND NO DATAS, NO APPROVAL, OKAY.
BECAUSE WHY WE WANT TO WATCH THIS THING, WE LOVE THE DATA.
WE'LL ALWAYS SEE ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN CT.
WE'RE GOING TO GAS STATION, ALL THOSE CRIME.
AND THE, WHAT THEY INCREASE OR NOT, IF NOT, THEN THEY SEND THE CHALLENGE.
BUT WITHOUT THE DATA, WE ALLOW THE POTENTIAL LAWSUIT, A CHALLENGE, WHY WE WANT TO WATCH THEIR THING.
I THINK WE SHOULD JUST TABLE THIS FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT GET ALL THE DATA AND GO TO PLANNING AND THEN SEND BACK TO US WITH ALL THE NUMBER, WITH ALL THE DATA.
I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO PROTECT A RESIDENT.
BECAUSE THE DATA IS THE PROOF OF WHAT THIS IS SAFE FOR.
IF YOU FEEL SO SAFE, THEN LET'S GET THE DATA.
AND I REITERATE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THIS DATA.
IT WAS GIVEN TO US A YEAR AGO WHEN IT CAME FORWARD TO US.
AND SO, UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, OKAY, CONSOLE MEMBERS, JAMAICA.
I REQUEST THE POLICE CHIEF REGARDING ALL THE NEIGHBORS, CT WITH GAS STATION, SELLING BEER AND WINE.
HE SAY HE DOESN'T HAVE, BUT HE CAN GET IT TOMORROW RIGHT AWAY.
THEY NEVER REQUEST BECAUSE NOBODY AND I ACTUALLY WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS AND GOT THE INFORMATION AND PAID ATTENTION TO THE INFORMATION.
SO, UH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS.
I HAVE THIS HOUR, YOU WANT TO AMEND MY MOTION? SO YOU WANT TO AMEND THE MOTION TO BOW IT WHILE YOU WANT.
BECAUSE MY MOTION IS TABLED IS FOR FUTURE FUTURE DISCUSSION.
AND I GOT A SECOND FOR ME OR PROTEIN.
AND YOU WANT TO MAKE A, UH, AMEND THE MOTION.
I CAN AMEND IT OR I CAN LET YOU TAKE A VOTE.
AND BASED ON THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACTUALLY ACCEPT THIS FOR FIRST READING AND HAVE A COMEBACK FOR SECOND READING WITH IT'S UP TO YOU.
IT'S YOUR RIGHT TO DECIDE WHY YOU WANT TO DO, YOU CAN AMEND THE MOTION TO HAVE A VOTE, OR YOU CAN HAVE A VOTE EXACTLY.
WHAT YOU, WHAT WE HAVE WITH SMEAR CAN MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON TOP OF THE MOTION.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TO SUBSIDY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TO NOT AMEND THE MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON TOP OF MINE.
AND THEN SOMETHINGS MOTION HAD TO GET VOTE FIRST MRI.
HEY, I'VE DONE THIS FIVE YEARS ALREADY, MAN.
WE, UH, RECEIVE THIS FOR FIRST READING AND NOT WAIT FOR THE READING.
BRING IT BACK FOR SECOND WITH THE REQUESTED INFORMATION.
AND SO, UH, SO, UH, SO FIRST, UH, SODA SUBSTITUTE MO MOTION.
SO WHAT WE SHOULD DO NEXT, I'M AGAINST THAT.
MR. MAY YOU NEED A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.
SO DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR, UH, OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD MAKE A, REGARDING MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, UH, EXCEPT THE FIRST READING ON IT.
WELL, LET ME GET BACK FOR THE MINI A SET, A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, RIGHT? YES.
SO WE HAVE A FIRST SUBSTITUTE MOTION MOVED BY COUNCILMAN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD MAKER.
AND THE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
YEAH, IT'S IN MY CUSTOM LENO'S
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UH, WELL LET ME SOME RATIONALE.I DON'T WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY WHERE WE DO A FIRST READING.
CAUSE I, UH, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING IT, BUT I DON'T LIKE THESE CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE.
UM, I THINK, UH, MAYOR WU DOES MAKE A GOOD POINT ABOUT GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA FROM THE POLICE CHIEF.
UM, WORRIED ABOUT, UM, PUTTING THE CITY IN LIABILITY BY REQUIRING 2000 SQUARE FEET.
SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING THE FIRST MOTION, ALTHOUGH I AM GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS AS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN, I THINK THIS IS MESSY AND WE DO NEED TO BRING IT BACK.
SO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, I'M A NO ON AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, SHOEMAKER MAYOR PRO TEM LOPEZ.
AND THEN I GO BACK TO TABLE THIS FOR FUTURE FUTURE DISCUSSION.
LOPEZ BEATO LOCAL PEACE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOEMAKER.
MAYOR, WILL I? AND A MOTION TO APPROVE TABLE THIS FOR, GO GET ALL THE DATA AND SHOW INTO PLANNING.
I SHOW INTO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ONE.
WE ARE GOING TO, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A RESET.
DO YOU WANT TO RESALE OR YOU WANT TO CONTINUE A FIVE MINUTES RESET.
TO CONTINUE, FINISH OUR MEETING.
SO WHO'S GOING TO PUT NUMBER SIX.
UH, AND THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN SESSION.
AND UH, WE GO ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
[6) CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION No. 2020-108 EXPRESSING OPPOSITION TO STATE PLANNING AND ZONING LEGISLATION THAT DIMINISHES LOCAL CONTROL]
AND NOW WE GO INTO NUMBER SIX.AND I, AND I DO WANT TO THINK, UM, GABRIEL, I, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS.
UM, I, I ALSO WANT TO GIVE AN INTAKE ON MYSELF CAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE HIT ME LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GONE FROM NOTHING TO SOMETHING.
UM, AND I'LL OF COURSE THAT'S A PROCESS.
AS PEOPLE KNOW, I WORK IN LOS ANGELES, EAST LA BOYLE HEIGHTS AREA.
SO I DEAL WITH A LOT OF ISSUES.
I DO HAVE FAMILY WHO RESIDE IN LA STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, IN INGLEWOOD OR IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF LA.
AND ACTUALLY WHEN I RAN MOST RESIDENTS, UM, WHO DIDN'T KNOW ME, HIT ME NEGATIVELY AND SAID, OH GREAT, SHE'S GOING TO BRING LA HERE.
AND SHE'S GOING TO TURN WEST COVINA TO LA.
UM, THERE'S A REASON WHY I MOVED TO WEST COVINA, BUT OF COURSE I'D LIKE TO BRING ALL THE GOOD THINGS CAUSE THERE'S GREAT THINGS IN EVERY CITY THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING HERE IN WEST COVINA.
UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, IT'S BEEN CLEAR BY MOST RESIDENTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN SAYING WE WANT LOCAL CONTROL.
UM, EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT EVEN WITHIN A CITY.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THINGS WE IMPLEMENT DOESN'T FALL IN LINE WITH THE STATE.
UM, BUT AT LEAST THE RESIDENTS HAVE CONTROL.
AND WE HAD THAT BIG DEBATE REGARDING ADU THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE STATE.
AND MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS WERE VERY LOUD AND CLEAR HERE.
SO IT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS WERE UPSET WHEN WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, FALL IN OF COURSE THE STATE OVERTURNED IT.
UM, OUR CITY OFFERS A LOT OF PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES FOR OUR RESIDENTS, THE CDBG PROGRAM, WHICH I KNOW FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE UTILIZE IT TO, UM, FOR HOME IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS UP.
I KNOW, UM, COUNCILMAN CASIANO HAS A TAKE ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS PLANNING AND ZONING.
SO THIS IS NOT JUST LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AND THEN COUNCILMAN CASIANO CAN GO AHEAD AND GIVE HIS TAKE TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND.
THANK YOU, LOPEZ OR MAYOR PRO TEM LOPEZ VIANO.
UH, WHEN WE GOT THIS LETTER FROM MIKE GRIFFITH FROM TORRANCE AND HE SENT IT OUT TO ALL A TON OF CITIES, MY UNDERSTANDING AND WHAT I BELIEVE IS THAT HIS BASE HAS HAD MORE TO DO WITH ADU TYPE ORDINANCES.
UM, IF YOU FOLLOWED THE LAWS THIS YEAR, JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, THE ADU ORDINANCES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA GOT VERY RELAXED.
I WOULD SAY PROBABLY WAY TOO RELAXED.
AND IF YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE ADU ORDINANCE AND HERE IN WEST COVINA, IT'S BEEN A LONG DEBATED CONTENTIOUS ONE, UH, HOVERING AROUND THE 12,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, LOT SIZE RANGE.
NOW THE CALIFORNIA NEW LAWS ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADU ON 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
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VERY SMALL, I THINK FOUR FEET, UM, VERY RELAXED.I THINK THAT, UH, MIKE GRIFFITH WOULD, WOULD HE REALLY WANTS TO GET SUPPORT ON IS THAT WE WANT LOCAL CONTROL ON ISSUES LIKE THAT.
UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A, AN ATTEMPT OF A LAW THAT FAILED THIS YEAR WAS ALLOWING THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, QUADPLEXES WHERE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES EXISTS THAT FAILED.
UH, BUT IF IT HAD PASSED, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SOMEONE COULD LEVEL THAT PUT UP A QUADPLEX AND THERE IT IS.
SO THAT'S REALLY MORE OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS NOT, IS PUSHING BACK ON THE STATE TO LET CITIES HAVE A SAY IN THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU, UH, YOU BROUGHT UP AND I APOLOGIZE, I FORGOT YOUR NAME, BUT YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF JOANNE IS STILL IN HERE, MARK COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THIS PRETTY CERTAIN TO MY RECOLLECTION OF MY TIME ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AND EVERY CITY IS REQUIRED TO, UH, HAVE PLACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN BE PLACED.
THAT WHAT THAT DOES THOUGH, IS THAT JUST OPENS UP THE MARKETPLACE TO DEVELOPERS, TO CHOOSE IF THEY'D LIKE TO BUILD THAT.
UM, SO IT'S NOT THAT WE WOULD BLOCK OR DISALLOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM BEING BUILT.
REALLY THE QUESTION IS, WILL A DEVELOPER STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND SAY, YES, I WANT TO BUILD THAT.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE AND EXERCISE TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH SOME DEVELOPERS AND ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD BUILD THAT.
WHY OR WHY NOT? I'VE BEEN TOLD THE ANSWER IS NO, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF LOSING MONEY AND SUBSIDIZING THINGS AND WALKING AWAY FOR NO GOOD REASON.
A FEW COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO, I MENTIONED BRIEFLY AN ARTICLE I READ, I THINK IT WAS ON NBC NEWS ABOUT THE COUNTY BUILDING HOMELESS HOUSING.
AND I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE END COST PER UNIT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 650,000, MAYBE 750, BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS EGREGIOUS AND IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AFFORDABLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT EASY TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT STILL COMES DOWN TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO BUILD IT.
THE CITY, WE, WE, WE DON'T BUILD IT.
WE DON'T LIKE SECURE THE LAND, HIRE THE CONTRACTORS AND BUILD IT.
AND EVEN IF WE DID, IT'S NOT LIKE WE WOULD SOMEHOW BUILD A UNIT THAT'S 150 GRAND AND THERE IT IS, IT'S FOR SALE.
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO COVER.
IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, PLEASE EMAIL CALL AND I HOPE THAT WAS HELPFUL.
UH, UM, UM, I WANT TO DO A LOCAL CONTROL NO MATTER WHAT.
SO I WANT TO MOVE THE MOTION TO APPROVAL.
DO I HAVE NLD DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE SAME THING AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS NOW, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HOMEOWNERS IN THIS CITY THAT MOVE HERE, THEY MOVE HERE FOR THE SUBURBAN FEEL.
THEY MOVE HERE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THEIR LOTS.
A LOT OF THEM ARE MOVING FROM LARGER URBAN AREAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ON TOP OF NEIGHBORS.
THEY ARE MOVING AWAY FROM APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOMES AND CONDOS AND COME TO WEST COVINA AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
AND FOR ME, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A HUGE PUSH, NOT ONLY ON THIS ISSUE AT THE STATE, BUT ON MANY ISSUES TO BASICALLY TELL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.
YOU NO LONGER HAVE SELF DETERMINATION.
AND YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF WEST COVINA IS DIFFERENT THAN CITIES AROUND US, MUCH MORE DIFFERENT THAN CITIES IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA OR WAY NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
AND TO TAKE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH TO LAWS REGARDING LOCAL ZONING IS JUST IMPROPER.
THAT IS WHY THERE ARE ELECTED LOCAL BODIES.
I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, IF WE HAVE NO LOCAL CONTROL, WHY ARE WE SITTING HERE? AND SO THAT IS WHY I AM IN SUPPORT OF PUSHING THE STATE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE NOT THE BE ALL END.
ALL THAT LOCAL CONTROL IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONES WHO KNOW OUR COMMUNITIES BEST.
COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOEMAKER, MAYOR PRO TEM LOPEZ.
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AND A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE, ZERO.WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER NINE, RIGHT? OKAY.
WE NEED TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
AND, BUT FOR THE FOREST POOR ALREADY, THE CITY MANAGER PULLED IT OUT.
I WOULD THINK I'M FALLING ASLEEP.
[9) CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2017-18 RESIDENTIAL STREET REHABILITATION PROGRAM - PROJECT NO. SP-18032]
OKAY.UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS BACKDATED ON PURPOSE 27, 2018, UM, YOU KNOW, PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, UH, AND THAT FINALLY COMPLETED IN MAY 29, WHICH I'M GLAD OUR RESIDENT DID SAY THANK YOU FOR PAVING THEIR STREETS.
I JUST WANT TO PUT IN FOR WELL TO MAKE NOTE THAT FOR FUTURE, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE, ALL THE LIST OF ALL THE STREETS THAT NEED PAVING AND SO FORTH.
UH, I AGREE THAT THIS IS, SHOULD BE ON YOUR MANAGEMENT REPORT MANAGER REPORT REGARDING THE TREE HAS BEEN PAID.
AND TO SHOW THE BEFORE AND AFTER THEN, AFTER THAT, THEN YOU SHOW HIM WHICH CT UP NOW, WHICH STREET WE ARE GOING TO, WHAT LOCATION WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, LET THE RESIDENT KNOW OKAY.
THAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE REPAID.
LET NEED TO BE SHOWN TO OUR RESIDENT THE BIG IMPROVEMENT.
I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR ALL THE WAY.
WHAT MOVED THE MOTION? THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
A MOTION MOVED BY MALE POTEN LOPEZ VR TO A SECOND.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, PLEASE.
I MAY APPROACH HIM LOPEZ DUETTO.
I MAY, OR MAY I MOTION TO APPROVE A FIVE ZERO.
[10) CONSIDERATION OF AUGUST FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020-21]
THEN WE GO INTO NUMBER 10.THERE WILL BE THIS POOR BY JESSICA.
UM, I JUST WANTED, UM, AND WE, THIS PREVIOUSLY, UM, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT OVER TIME IS, UH, AT 91.4% OF WHAT WE BUDGETED.
AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE IT TO COME BACK TO US FOR A DISCUSSION ON WHY THAT IS AND WHERE ALL OF THE ASSURANCES THAT WE WOULD NOT BE FACING THIS TYPE OF BUDGET AMENDMENT, UM, WET.
SO YOU WANT THE CHIEF TO COME OUT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU? NO, BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION I HAD, UH, REQUESTED THAT WILL BE CHIEF ALREADY STAND BY YOU, YOU WANT? NO.
IF YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT NO, BECAUSE I HAD REQUESTED OTHER INFORMATION.
REMEMBER THIS WILL BE COMING BACK.
UH, UH, DURING THE COLD SESSION.
SO WE ALREADY REQUEST MORE INFORMATION.
SO WE, WHY NOW? I THINK MAYBE WAY FOR ALL THE COLLATERAL INFORMATION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER REQUESTS YOU SO WE CAN GET ALL THOSE NUMBER.
BUT MAYBE YOU CAN STAND BY MAYBE OTHER, THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO ASK YOU, JUST GIVE ME FIVE MINUTES OR YOU DON'T WANT THE ESSAY.
SO, AND THE COUNCIL AND THE, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? GO AHEAD.
UM, THE REPORT SHOWS THAT, UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD COLLECTED 6.2% OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
AND THIS, BY THIS POINT, AND THIS YEAR WE'VE ONLY, UM, RECEIVED 3.4%.
UM, FOR SOME REASON THEY'RE CALLING THAT A DECREASE OF 2.8%.
UM, I DO MATH DIFFERENTLY AND I THINK THAT'S A DECREASE OF ALMOST 50%.
BUT, UM, PART OF IT IS THE DELAY OF THE PROP, A FUNDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS ATTRIBUTED TO THAT.
AND HOW MUCH IS IT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, OUR SALES TAX REVENUE HAS BEEN DECREASING.
AND, UM, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, UM, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION LAST YEAR, AT THE SAME TIME, I BELIEVE IN JULY LAST YEAR, WE DID THE EXCHANGE FOR THE PROPERTY MONIES ON THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
WE APPROVED THAT CONTRACT AND I'M WAITING TO GET SIGNED CONTRACTS BACK FROM FOOTHILL TRANSIT BECAUSE THEY TOOK IT TO THEIR COUNCIL.
AND ONCE I GET THAT, THEN WE WILL DO IT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THE FULL AMOUNT THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE GOT, UM, REVISIONS OF THE REVENUE ESTIMATES FROM A METRO.
AND SO WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE EXCHANGING 1.8 RATHER THAN THE TWO POINT.
I THINK IT WAS 2.3 THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET.
UM, AS FAR AS THE SALES TAX GOES FOR THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A BIG DIP IN THE SALES TAX AND A BIG REASON FOR THAT IS A LOT OF THE SALES TAX THAT COMES INTO THE CITY FROM
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PLAZA.WEST COVINA GOES INTO THE CFD, THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT, THAT FUND WE'VE SEEN NEGATIVE SALES TAX BECAUSE OF THE MALL BEING CLOSED FOR SO LONG.
BUT FORTUNATELY IN THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S, WE'RE HOLDING OUR OWN THERE AND I'M GOING TO KEEP LOOKING AT IT.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, CAUSE TOT IS DOWN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVISE THAT FOR THE YEAR.
UM, IF I SEE SALES TAX DIPPING, WHICH I HAVEN'T SO FAR, WE'LL REVISE THAT PROBABLY AT MIDYEAR BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A BETTER ESTIMATE, UM, RIGHT NOW THROUGH AUGUST BECAUSE WE ACCRUED JULY AND AUGUST SALES TAX BACK TO LAST YEAR.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS.
THERE'S NO SALES TAX IN THIS YEAR YET, BUT THE NUMBERS THAT I'M SEEING ARE VERY EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST FOR, FOR JULY AND AUGUST.
SO I EXPECT SEPTEMBER, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THINGS ARE OPENING UP, WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW QUICKLY THE ECONOMY RECOVERS.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UM, JUST GET A COPY OF THOSE NUMBERS? UM, THE REVENUE EXPENDITURE REPORTS? UM, YES.
I KNOW WE GET SOME OF IT AS PART OF OUR WEEKLY UPDATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT JUST A NICE CHART THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO THE PUBLIC THAT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN AREA THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THAT SHOWS THAT.
UM, AND THEN I SEE THAT EXPENDITURES FOR AUGUST, 2020, WE'RE DOWN TO 4.6 MILLION, WHICH IS 6.9% COMPARED TO AUGUST, 2019, WHERE WE WERE AT 11.8%.
SO, UM, THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE UNITS WHO TOOK CUTS, THANK YOU TO ROBIN FOR HAVING THANK YOU.
AND JUST TO ADD ON TO THAT, THAT'S WITH THE INCREASES THAT THE POA AND THE FFA GOT.
SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY CONTROLLING OUR EXPENDITURES THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THOSE NOW THAT I'M LOOKING AT THEM EVERY MONTH, NOT THAT I DIDN'T BEFORE, BUT TO BRING THIS REPORT AND ANALYZING THEM MORE DEEPLY, WE'LL CONTINUE TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AND BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN AND LET YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION I'M WORRIED.
SO ANYWAY, UH, REGARDING A LOT OF PEOPLE ORDER ONLINE.
I OWN THE DESIGN THAT FROM OKAY.
A WEBSITE, AMAZON DESIGN THAT.
ALL CT, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE, OKAY.
THOSE TEXTS GO TO US, BUT, BUT I HAVE A, OKAY.
A BUILDING ADDRESS THEN I HAVE, UH, SHIPPING, SHIPPING, SHIPPING ADDRESS.
SO, SO HOW THEY KNOW THIS GOING TO OUR CT DOSING, I PAY IT.
SO THE ONLINE SALES, UM, THEY GO INTO, WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE COUNTY POOL AND IT GETS DIVVIED UP AND I BELIEVE IT'S BY POPULATION, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
NOT FOR THE COUNTY POOL, BUT THE COUNTY POOL AGAIN.
UM, AND GET DEMEC HAS BEEN WAY UP.
CAUSE EVERYBODY'S ORDERING EVERYBODY ALL THE ONLINE.
SO WE GET SOME SHELL COME, YOU GET, WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT FROM THE COUNTY OR BASICALLY IS BETTER SHIT THAN BEFORE BECAUSE EVERYBODY OWED ONLINE.
AND THAT'S WHY THE ZOOM EQUIVALENT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE HOLDING OUR OWN IN SALES.
WORK-WISE MY TAX DOLLAR GO TO.
UH, I, SINCE I WON THE PIGGYBACK SALARY TOO LATE, YOU RUNNING AROUND THE STAIR.
AND CLEARLY, UH, REMEMBER WE TALKING ABOUT OKAY.
REMEMBER THE PROMISE FOR YOU IS FILL OUT MY STAFF, THEN WE CAN CUT OVER TIME.
SO NOW OAKLEIGH OVER TIME IS GOING TO EXIST.
SO WHAT HAPPENED? OKAY, WELL, IT'S THE PROMISE FONT.
WE FILLED OUT QUITE WE KEEP WHILE YOU WANT.
I KNOW IT'S A RETURN TO THE CT ECHO, UH, IN RELATION TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT FILLING UP.
AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE COUNCIL APPROVED AND CITY CA THREE MANAGER APPROVED ME TO HIRE THE NINE POSITIONS LAST YEAR, WHICH MADE US FULLY STAFFED, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT OVERTIME WITH THAT NINE FULLY STAFF.
AS OF THE DATE, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE SAVED $231,000 IN OVERTIME WITH, WELL, HOW MUCH ARE WE SAVING $231,000 THIS YEAR BY HAVING THOSE NINE POSITIONS FILLED, WHICH WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 1.4 MILLION.
IF WE DID NOT FILL THOSE EXTRA OVERTIME THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE EXPENDED, IF WE DID NOT HAVE THOSE NINE IS THERE.
SO MY CONDO FOR CONFUSED QUESTIONING IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE FEEL ALL THE POSITION WITH A FULL STAFF, THE FULL STAFFING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE WILL CUT DOWN THE MAJORITY OF ALL THE TIME.
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THERE'S WHAT THE TIME.AND WE DID IN AND THROUGH CONSTANT STAFFING FOR OPEN POSITIONS.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE FOR THIS YEAR, SO FAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR CUT DOWN $231,230,000 COMPARE WITH WHAT ORIGINAL, YOUR PROMISE, RIGHT? WHY NOT? WE ALREADY GO TO 91%.
MEANING IS GOING TO BE EXISTS.
SO AS THE STAFF REPORT STATES, UM, WE'VE BEEN FALLING OVER TIME, WEEKLY, DAILY.
WE SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
SO REPORT ONYX HAS, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID FINANCE THE WAY HE WOULDN'T SAY SOMETHING OR COULD YOU PLEASE LEAVE IT SINCE SHE KNOWS SHE KNOW THE NUMBER.
I JUST WANT TO, UM, EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE NUMBERS, UM, THE 91% WE CUT THE OVERTIME IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR DRASTICALLY TO, I THINK IT WAS TWO SOMETHING LAST YEAR.
IT WAS LIKE, WERE WE BUDGETED 500,000 FOR THE REGULAR OVERTIME THIS YEAR? BECAUSE AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE PREPARING THE BUDGET, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVES FOR FIRE AND WE MADE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS THAT IT WAS GOING TO GO FORWARD.
AS IT, AS IT HAPPENS, IT DIDN'T GO FORWARD.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SO WE WERE LOOKING AT MAYBE DOING AN ALTERNATIVE WITH CARE, AMBULANCE, LOOKING AT COUNTY SERVICES, UM, OR LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, DRASTIC LAYOFFS, TO BE HONEST IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT 91%, I THINK IF HE HAD A BUDGET RIGHT NOW OF SAY 1.3, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT HE REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET, IT WOULDN'T BE 91% RIGHT NOW.
SO, SO, SO YOU HAD THE CONTROL OVER TIME.
OTHERWISE WE MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE BUDGET OF THE WHEEL APPROVAL.
AND, UH, AND THE REVENUE COME IN NOW, WHAT BE TOLD YOU DON'T TOT TAX.
WE DON'T HAVE A FULL SALES TAX AND A LOT OF BUSINESS STILL SUFFERING.
BUT WE, WE ALWAYS REQUEST THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN BRING TO COUNCIL TO DISCUSS, BUT OKAY.
I THINK LATER ON WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU, CHIEF FINANCE DIRECTOR, REALLY APPRECIATE.
AND, UH, UM, DO YOU ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE THE MOTION? OH, OKAY.
UM, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION HERE.
SO EVEN IF WE HAD PUT THE 1.3 MILLION, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE PACE RIGHT NOW TO BE 3 MILLION.
SO, UM, WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE TRENDING THE OVERTIME DOWNWARD? OH, SO AS I STATED, UH, IS THAT IF WE WANT TO COMPARE FILLING THE POSITIONS AND CUTTING DOWN OVERTIME FOR THAT, IF WE WERE STILL OUT OF THOSE NINE OPEN POSITIONS, WHATEVER OVER TIME WE SPENT THIS YEAR WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $1.4 MILLION ABOVE THIS YEAR.
SO FAR AT THE $519,000 EXPENDITURE FOR JULY AND AUGUST THERE, THOSE ARE BROKEN UP INTO TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
ONE OF THEM IS ACCRUED LEAVE AND OTHER LEAVES AND OTHER REASONS WHY THEY SPEND IT.
SO I SEPARATED THOSE IN TWO THINGS AND THE CRUDE LEAVE VACATION, LEAVE SICK, LEAVE BEREAVEMENT COMP TIME.
THAT AMOUNT COMES TO $269,000, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN ANNUALLY 1.6 MILLION WE'D HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH RIGHT ON TRACK WITH THE 1.3, BECAUSE IT FLUCTUATES IN THE SUMMER MONTHS AND WE WOULD HAVE LESS VACATION.
SO I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON COURSE WITH THE 1.3, HOWEVER, WE HAD A LOT OF UNEXPECTED, UM, COSTS THIS YEAR.
I HAD A NUMBER OF IOD THAT ARE CURRENTLY STILL OUT RIGHT NOW FOR A TOTAL OF 249,833, THREE, 900 HOURS OF LEAVES RELATED TO OLD IODS CURRENTLY FROM JULY AND AUGUST ONLY.
SO ON THAT PACE, THAT'S AN EXTRA $1.4 MILLION.
UH, OTHER THAN THE DRASTIC MEASURE MEASURES, WHICH AREN'T RECOMMENDED FOR STAFFING, IF WE DEAL WITH, UM, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR STATED THERE'S ONLY WAY TO CONTROL THAT IS NOT HAVE PEOPLE HERE IN RODNEY CALLS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT RUN THE CALLS.
SO WE WEREN'T, WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF IOD.
WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO HAVE THE GALSTER FIRE TO COST US, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED HOURS OF TIME.
WE WEREN'T EXPECTING, EVEN THOUGH WE DID PLAN FOR THE 4TH OF JULY, THAT COST US A COUPLE OF, YOU KNOW, SIX GRAND.
SO THOSE THINGS WERE UNEXPECTED, ESPECIALLY THE IOD.
UM, THE REST OF THIS WILL BE, UH, HAVE TO BE THE CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION BECAUSE, UM, I HAVE HUGE ISSUES WITH WHAT WAS JUST SAID, BUT, UM, IT FALLS UNDER PERSONNEL, SO I'LL LEAVE IT ALONE.
AND CHEAP, PLEASE CONTROL THE OVERTIME DAY WHILE YOU CAN DO OKAY.
WE, WE DON'T WANT TO, UM, GO TO SOME DRASTIC OKAY.
WE REALLY WANT THE SERVERS BY THE SAME TIME WE NEED TO KEEP THE BUDGET.
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US.UH, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS? THIS IS A APPROVAL.
THERE'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT, THREE BUDGET AMENDMENTS ATTACHED TO THIS REPORT.
AND TWO OF THEM WERE JUST, UM, THERE'S NO DOLLARS INVOLVED.
WELL I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON TO, UH, AGAIN, MOVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.
[11) CONSIDERATION OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENTS FOR FIRE PREVENTION PLAN CHECK SERVICES]
TO THE, UH, AGENDA.I MAY, I PUT IN THE OTHER, OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE PLAN CHECK SURVEY.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED, WE USED TO HAVE A PART TIME STAFF TO HELP OFFSET.
NOW WE DON'T, UM, WITH THESE THREE CONSULTANT, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO, IF THEY'RE STILL OVERBURDEN, WHAT WILL OCCUR NEXT OR IS IT JUST INCREASE OF COST? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY IF THERE, UM, CAUSE IT SAYS THAT THERE'S TIMES THAT THEY'VE BEEN OVERBURDENED WITH PLAN, CHECK REVIEWS, RESULTED IN DELAYS AND TURNAROUND TIMES.
BUT IF IT'S STILL A CONTINUING ISSUE, WHAT HAPPENS, WE'LL HAVE TO TRY TO FIND MORE CONSULTANTS, BUT I'M CONFIDENT WITH THE THREE THAT WE CAN DO IT.
AND IT'S 30,000 MAX PER CONSULTANT.
I REQUESTED POS 30,000 FOR ONE CONSULTANT, 15 FOR THE OTHER TWO, THE OTHER TWO, UH, THE 15TH.
EACH OF THOSE ACTUALLY HAVE NUMBER OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TODAY ARE OVERBURDENED.
I HAS MORE STAFF OF INSPECTORS AND NOT THAT MANY FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THAT ONE TO BE OUR PRIMARY.
AND THEN I WAS REVIEWING THE PLAN CHECK SURVEY.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE OTHER CITIES, UM, WHICH MAJORITY OF THE CITIES THEY DO IT IN HOUSE.
AND WITH ONLY THREE TOTAL CITIES, UM, BESIDES THE MONROVIA MONTEREY PARK AND US, UM, WE DO HAVE CONSULTANTS, BUT WHY IS IT THAT FOR A PERMIT APPLICATION FEE, EXPEDITE FEE, RESUBMIT FEE, THEY CHARGE A $99 PLUS A CONSULTANT FEE WHILE THE OTHERS, THEY REALLY DON'T.
UM, WHY IS THAT? AND WHAT ARE THE CONSULTANT FEES? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART HERE, UM, THE BOTTOM SIX ARE LA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH THEY DO IN HOUSE, UH, MONTEREY PARK, MONROVIA, AND OURSELVES USE THE SAME CONSULTANTS.
ARCADIA HAS IN HOUSE CONSULTANT.
I DO IN HOUSE AND SPECTRUM TO DO THEIR OWN AS WELL AS MONROVIA IN HOUSE CONSULTANT OR IN HOUSE STAFF AND IN HOW STAFF THINKS AND HOW STAFF.
SO IF YOU LOOK FOR THE EXPEDITE FEE, EVERYBODY HAS AN EXPEDITE FEE EXCEPT FOR OUR HAMBRO.
AND I SPOKE TO ALHAMBRA, UM, WHICH BY THE WAY, THE CONSULTANT, EVERYBODY SHE USES ACTUALLY WORKS FOR ALHAMBRA.
HE'S ACTUALLY THERE IS, THEY DO IT PRETTY QUICKLY OVER THE COUNTER RIGHT THERE.
AND THEY JUST DON'T, THEY DON'T CHARGE.
THEY GET THEIR COSTS WITHIN THE OTHER, OTHER FEES.
NO, BUT MY QUESTION IS, UM, IF YOU LOOK INCLUDING WHEN RAVI AND MONTEREY PARK, I KNOW THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE A CONSULTANT, BUT DURING THOSE COLUMNS, THE PERMIT EXPEDITE AND RESUBMIT ONLY WAS COVINA CHARGES, $99 PLUS CONSULTANT WHILE THE OTHERS DON'T.
AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY AND WHAT ARE THOSE COSTS IS THE CONSULTANT IS THE CONSULTANT FEE.
IF YOU LOOK AT I'M SORRY, IF YOU LOOK AT MONTEREY PARK THEY'RE EXPEDITE FEE, IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? MONTERREY FOR WORK? YEAH.
I MEAN, THEY ALL HAVE A SET RATE.
WE CHARGE AN EXTRA NINE, $9 FOR X BY FEE.
CAUSE WE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY HAVE IT, PUT IT IN THE MAIL, SEND IT AND PAY FOR THE SHIPPING BACK AND FORTH.
SOMETIMES IT'S THE PLANS ARE HUGE.
AND SO WE HAVE TO, WE PUT THAT BURDEN FOR THE EXPEDITE ON THE VENDOR FOR US TO HAVE TO MAIL IT BACK AND FORTH TO US ELSE.
WE COULD LOSE MONEY BY DOING THIS.
AND THEN THE FEE FOR THE CONSULTANT IS WHAT THEY CHARGE TO EXPEDITE AS WELL AS THEIR NORMAL CONCERNS FEES.
THEY'RE THERE IN THE, IN THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR EACH OF THE ONES I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, IN MY HEART FOR EACH VENDOR.
SO BASICALLY IF YOU COME IN AND YOU SAY, I WANT THIS DONE IN SEVEN DAYS, WE CHARGE YOU THE CONSULTANT FEE TO DO IT.
AND THEN THE CONSULTANT FEE, THE CONSULTANT ALSO CHARGES US ANOTHER FEE TO GET IT DONE IN SEVEN DAYS ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR NORMAL FEE.
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REASON WHY I WAS ASKING, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY I WANTED TO SEE WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE PAYING.AND I WANTED TO SEE IF WE ARE PAYING COMPARABLE TO OTHER CITIES.
ARE WE OVERPAYING OR UNDERPAYING, WHICH LEADS ME BACK TO THE REASON WHY I'D LIKE TO SEE AN INHOUSE.
I KNOW I DID SAY THAT I WANTED THIS TO BE A ONE YEAR REVIEW SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHAT THE FEES WERE FOR OVERCHARGING.
IF WE HAD AN IN HOUSE EMPLOYEE, WE WOULD PROBABLY LOSE MONEY.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THE COST FOR A FULL TIME INSPECTOR TO DO PLAN CHECKING IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN THE 60,000.
SAY WE SPENT 60,000 THIS YEAR TO DO PLANS THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE AND THEN PAY THE VENDOR.
IF WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL DO THAT, THERE ARE COSTS THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE COST OF A PLAN'S INSPECTOR THROUGH THE FOOD.
IS IT, YOU HAD A PART TIME INSPECTOR WHO WAS A NINE 60 EMPLOYEE WHO HAPPENED TO BE ABLE TO DO PLANS.
SO SOMETIMES SHE WOULD DO THEM JUST TO HELP OUT THE VENDORS AND GET IT DONE.
UM, WELL, I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN A YEAR, WELL, IN ONE YEAR THAT WE REVIEW THIS, THE TOTAL COST OF NOW WITH THREE CONSULTANTS, WITHOUT THE HELP OF OUR OWN PART TIME, UM, JUST TO SEE HOW THE SERVICES IS BEING PROVIDED.
IF THESE, UM, CONSULTANTS ARE STILL BEING OVERBURDENED, IF OUR COSTS IS DO, UM, INCREASE.
AND I DO LIKE TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF BEING IN HOUSE AS WELL.
CAUSE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WITH ALL THESE OTHER CITIES, THEY HAVE IT IN HOUSE, SO I DON'T SEE WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY WE COULDN'T IF, AND THEN, BUT OF COURSE THE FEES THAT WAS, UH, UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MAKE UP PLEASE.
UM, I'M GOING TO PIGGY BACK ON A MAYOR PRO TEM LOPEZ V AUTO.
SO HOW DO WE ACTUALLY CHARGE THE RESIDENTS? BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THESE FEE SCHEDULES, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
SO LIKE, UM, EXPEDITING SERVICE ON, UM, KJ CONSULTANT IS, UH, ACTUALLY NOT LISTED.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT M A K IT'S 200 PLUS THE, UM, CONSULTANT FEE, UM, WE HAVE KJ CONSULTANTS THAT ARE CHARGING US TRAVEL TIME.
I DON'T SEE THAT MAK UM, WE HAVE PE CONSULTING GROUP.
THAT'S $70 PER HOUR WITH A MINIMUM OF, UH, ONE HOUR FOR EACH PROJECT.
WE HAVE AN EXPEDITE FEE FOR THEM IS ONE 25 FOR THE FIRST HOUR AND 95 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL HOUR.
SO WHEN I COME IN AND NEED THIS SERVICE, IS IT ROULETTE ON WHO I GET? WHAT I'M GOING TO BE CHARGED? OR HOW IS THIS GOING TO WORK? SO THE TWO SO M AND KMP, THE ONES WE'VE BEEN USING HAVE EXPERTISE, ONE DOES BUILDING AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER ONE DOES FIRE PROTECTION AND FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS. SO THEY HAVE THEIR EXPERTISE, EVEN THOUGH THEY BOTH CAN DO ALL OF IT.
THEY HAVE THEIR EXPERTISE WHERE IN KJ CONSULTANT CAN DO ALL OF THEM AND THEY HAVE MORE STAFF TO DO THEM, ALL THE OTHER ONES.
WE HAVE TO PAY TO SEND THEM TO THEM.
WE HAVE TO PUT THEM IN THE MAIL, PAY FOR THAT.
AND THAT COMES OUT OF THE NINE, $9 APPLICATION FEE THAT WE, THAT WE, THAT WE GET FROM THE I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE CHART, I'M FOCUSED ON THE ACTUAL AGREEMENTS.
AND SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT KJ CONSULTANTS WILL HANDLE ONE TIGHT PERIOD, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HANDLE THE OTHER TYPES AND THE OTHER TWO FIRMS WILL EACH UNDER THE OWN INDIVIDUAL THING.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A CASE WHERE, UM, LET'S SAY MAK IS UNAVAILABLE.
SO WE MOVE IT UP TO KJ CONSULTANTS AND THE PERSON GETS CHARGED SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THEY WOULD HAVE UNDER MAK.
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE VENDOR CAN DO.
THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY SINCE NOBODY IS GOING TO BE THE SAME PRICE.
AND WE CAN'T JUST USE ONE VENDOR, IT DOES WORK THAT WAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE TRY TO USE THEIR EXPERTISE, SPRINKLER, FIRE PROTECTION, FIRE SUPPRESSION, OR BUILDING MR. CITY ATTORNEY, UH, HELP, BECAUSE HOW CAN WE CHARGE DIFFERENT RESIDENTS, DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE SAME SERVICE.
I NEED TO TALK WITH CHIEF ABOUT THIS.
WE JUST CHARGED IN THE, IT SAYS WE JUST CHARGE WHATEVER THE CONSULTANT FEE IS.
WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL STANDARD THAT SAYS WHAT IT IS.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I, AS A RESIDENT AM GOING TO BE ONE TEED OFF RESIDENT.
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PAY MORE FOR A SERVICE THAT MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR PAYS LESS FOR.AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EVEN LEGALLY DO THAT, BE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE FAIRNESS.
SO, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS JUST SAID THAT THIS WILL, HE WILL NEED TO DISCUSS IT.
SO, UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO TABLE IT.
SO YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS? YEAH, I DO, BECAUSE I NEED TO ANSWER TO WHETHER WE CAN, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE? IT IS TO GET CLEAR INFORMATION AND INCLUDING, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK SOME OF WHY YOU TABLE THIS.
ONE OF THE COMPARE REASON WAS IN HOUSE BECAUSE ACADIA, THEY HAVE A LOCAL CODE SO THAT YOU CAN HOUSE.
I'VE GOT HOW MANY COMPARE WAYS OF HOW WE CONSULTANT IS.
YEAR, TWO YEARS A WEEK AT THE SAME TIME.
WE NEED TO, BUT THE THING IS, I AGREE WITH, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD MAKE A REGARDING HOW CAN WE CHARGE PEOPLE WITH A DIFFERENT PRICE BECAUSE DIFFERENT CONSULTANT, THAT IS A ISSUE.
IF I MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF CHIEF, IF YOU DON'T GET THESE CONTRACTS APPROVED TONIGHT, WILL WE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE PLAN TECH SERVICES AT ALL? WE ARE NOT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE HOLDING ALL PLANS.
WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ANY RESIDENTS OR WE NEED IT, SO WE NEED TO IMPROVE THIS SO WE CAN.
AND, UH, THIS IS A YEAR TO YEAR, RIGHT? TO APPROVE ONE YEAR'S AGREEMENT.
CAN WE HAVE A OLDER, EQUAL CHARGED? OKAY.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, YEAH, I AGREE.
WHAT CAN I HAVE A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT IF INJURED, DUE TO DIFFERENT SHIPPED.
IF YOU LOOK, IF THEY'RE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS, OKAY.
THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT CHART, BUT IF THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING, GO AHEAD.
UM, I, WELL, DIFFERENT CITIES IS IT RESIDENTS WITHIN OUR CITY.
SO, UH, WE CAN ARGUE ON WHETHER WE SHOULD NEGOTIATE LOWER PRICES BASED ON THE CHART.
SO IF WE NEED SOMEBODY TO PREVENT, UH, TO BE DOING FIRE PREVENTION PLAN CHECKS NOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO DO IT, THEN I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE APPROVE THE ONE THAT WOULD BE DOING THE PLAN CHECKS AND TABLE THE OTHER TWO, OR MAKE IT THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL COMPANY HANDLES THEIR SPECIALTY SO THAT THERE WILL BE NO.
IF MAK CAN'T HANDLE IT, IT GOES TO KJ CONSULTANTS WHERE THERE MAY BE WHEN I MOVED THE MOTION.
AND JUST ONE THING I KNOW, I SAID I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THESE CONSULTANTS MADE WITH OUR, UM, RESIDENTS WITH ALL THESE, UM, BUSINESS IN A YEAR, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID PERFECT FOR IT.
UM, SO IN 2015, 16, 16, 17, 17, 18, 18, 19, 1921.
BUT THEM AS A CONSULTANT, THE ORGANIZATION, HOW MUCH DID THEY MAKE OUT OF OUR RESIDENTS THE WHOLE YEAR OF, CAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID, IF WE HAVE IT IN HOUSE, WE'LL LOSE MONEY.
BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT UNLESS, I MEAN, IF, IF THEIR FEES ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WE CHARGED IN HOUSE PRIOR THOSE MANY YEARS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY ACTUALLY MADE WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY MADE FROM US.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, 15, 16, WE MENK FIRE PROTECTION MADE 16,110 TOTAL FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
LIKE THIS IS NOT WHAT OUR CITY PAID GENERAL FUND.
IT'S MORE WHAT THE RESIDENTS, CAUSE YOU SAID RESIDENTS COVER THE COSTS.
WELL THAT WHAT THE RESIDENTS PAY TO THEM X.
SO WE, THE CITY KIDS TO KEEP THE NINE, $9 APPLICATION FEE FOR HAVING THE STAFF THAT DOES IT FOR ANY PLANS WE HAVE TO MAIL OR SHIP, UH, THAT GOES INTO IT.
ANY OTHER PORTIONS, ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAN CHECKS IS BURDEN ON THE CUSTOMER AND THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO THEM.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.
ALL THE, I MEAN, ALL THAT COST OF WHAT THEY GET, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS RIGHT HERE.
UM, AGAIN, I NEED TO TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
BECAUSE ON THE STAFF REPORT, THEY BASICALLY ALL SAY FOR FIRE PREVENTION PLAN, CHECK SERVICES, BUT I WANT THE AGREEMENTS CHANGED OR, UM, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO SO THAT IF WE APPROVE ALL THREE TONIGHT, IT'S WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE NO CROSSOVER.
SO IF MAK CAN'T HANDLE SOMETHING AND KJ DOES HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN DO IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE IT TO THEM FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE PRICE.
DID YOU ABBREVIATE YOUR EMOTION? SO YOU EMOTION IS YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE TONIGHT? WELL, NOT NECESSARILY.
IT'S BASED ON WHAT THE CITY, MR. MAYOR, YOU CAN MAKE, PUT THAT IN YOUR MOTION AND DIRECT STAFF, DIRECT CITY ATTORNEY,
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CITY MANAGER, CHAT TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT AND EXECUTE IT.AND THAT'S WHY THE MOTIONS ABOUT APPROVE SOME TOO.
AND THE OLDER, FULLY INFORMATION, WE DON'T HAVE A LEGALITY ISSUE.
AND I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THESE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENTS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CONTRACTS WILL BE AMENDED SO THAT EACH FIRM HAS SPECIFIC DUTIES AND, UH, THEY WILL STAY BASICALLY IN THEIR LANE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO PUT IT.
AT THE SAME TIME WE WON THE FULL INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE IN HOUSE.
MAYBE OUR FINANCE DIRECTORS CAN SEE THE COMPARISON COMPARED WITH OTHER CITY, HOW MANY STAFF WE NEED AND TO COMPARE WITH, CAN WE PAY FOR BY ALL THE SERVICE? SO, AND, UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND ONE QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF AHEAD? WOULD THAT HURT US OR RESIDENTS OR APPLICANTS IN ANY WAY? YES, IT WOULD.
BECAUSE IF WE, IF WE HANDCUFF OURSELVES SAYING THAT VENDOR A CAN ONLY DO SPRINKLERS AND WE HAVE A HUNDRED, UM, FIRE PROTECTION ONES COME IN HOODS AND STUFF, AND WE ONLY CAN USE VENDOR B FOR THAT.
RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE VENDOR B CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
YOU SAID THAT MAK AND M P CONSULTING HAVE SPECIFIC SPECIALTIES THAT YOU WANT TO USE THEM FOR.
SO WHERE EVERYTHING IF NEEDED.
BUT WE HAVE IN THE PAST LAST FEW YEARS, STAFF HAS DECIDED, HEY, WE KEEP A CERTAIN PLANS FOR PE AND CERTAIN CERTAIN FOR M AND K, JUST TO KEEP IT.
THAT WAY, IF WE DID THAT CHIEF, I THINK WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A DELAYS OR PEOPLE HAVE A PROJECT WE CAN RIGHT AWAY SEND OUR TEAM, THE CONSULTANT OVER THERE.
BUT I THINK YOU CAN TALK TO THEM.
TO TRY TO EVERYBODY THE SAME SO WE CAN USE EVERYBODY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'LL TRY TO DO.
AND IF THEY DO JOB, THEN WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM THE RENEWAL.
SO, SO YOU GUYS, WHY YOU, SO, OKAY.
IF WE LET ALL THREE WORK ON EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO, THEN YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTS' PAIN MORE OR LESS THAN OTHER RESIDENTS.
I JUST SAY, I JUST MENTIONED TO ACHIEVE, HE NEEDED TO MAKE EVERYBODY THE SAME CHARGE.
OR SO WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND THE CONTRACTS WHERE WE SET UP, MAYBE SET UP A SCALE OF WHAT PEOPLE CHARGE AND FIND OUT WHAT THAT, WHAT RESIDENTS ARE CHARGED TO FIND OUT WHAT MAKES IT COST NEUTRAL.
AND IT'S CLEAR, RIGHT? YOU GOT IT RIGHT.
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU APPROVAL SO WE CAN MOVE ON.
SO IN THAT WAY, WE WANT TO HAVE TO SEE IT AS IN CHARGE AND LET THEM DO TO HELP YOU TO NEGOTIATE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND BY WHO? OR SECOND? BY MALE PUTIN.
AND, UH, WHAT COPIES? OH, IT'S IN MY CUSTODY.
BEATO MARABOU I END UP EMOTIONAL POO FOR ONE.
AND I THINK A CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CHIEF AND CITY MANAGER CLEARLY AND NO.
THE CONCERN IS WE CANNOT SHOW IT TO PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY WITH A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT COMPANY.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, SO THEY NEED TO COME ABOUT A SIMILAR CHARGE AND THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT.
SO IN THAT WAY, IT'S A FAIRNESS AND THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, REGARDING HOW THEY, UH, THE CHARGE.
SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEY WILL GET CHARGED FOR SOTERA MONTH.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER THING IS OUR CHIEF OF FINANCE, THE K TO LOOKING TO THE IN HOUSE.
[15) CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION 2020-104 CONFIRMING A WASTE MANAGEMENT AGENCY AND DESIGNATING A LOCAL ENFORCEMENT AGENCY FOR ENFORCEMENT OF A SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM]
LET'S MOVE TO AGENDA.WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER 15.
THIS IS THE LATEST, THIS IS THE LATEST THAT MEETING WE EVER HAD.
SEE, I WOULD THINK
UM, ITEM NUMBER 15, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION 2020 DASH ONE OH FOUR.
CONFIRMING A WASTE MANAGEMENT AGENCY.
AND THAT'S AN 18, A LOCAL ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
ENFORCEMENT OFFER SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
AND MR. PRISCO TO CDOS ISN'T CITY MANAGER.
YOU WANT TO PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT? THIS IS WHY YOU, RIGHT.
UM, I WILL MAKE THIS QUICK GIVEN THE LATENESS OF THE HOUR, UM, AS THE MAYOR HAS INDICATED, UH, THE ITEM BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO, UH, REAFFIRM
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THE CITY'S WASTE MANAGEMENT AGENCY AND DESIGNATION AS A LOCAL, UH, ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.THIS IS RELATED TO THE BKK SITE.
UH, THE CITY HAS SERVED AS THE LEA SINCE 1992.
UH, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED RESOLUTION 88 ZERO SEVEN, AND THAT WAS AFFIRMED BY THE STATE, UH, INTEGRATED WASTE MANAGEMENT BOARD IN THE SUMMER OF 1992.
UH, FAST FORWARD, THE CITY HAD SERVED, UH, STEVE SAN DIEGO, WHO IS CURRENTLY HERE, UM, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, WAS A FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE.
HE WAS THE, UH, LOCAL ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OFFICER, UM, AND SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY FOR ABOUT A DOZEN YEARS, UH, THEN BECAME A CONSULTANT TO THE CITY.
UH, HE WAS REPLACED BY AN OUT ANOTHER OUTSIDE FIRM.
UM, AND THAT'S WHEN THE CITY STARTED HAVING ISSUES.
UH, IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, WE WERE INFORMED BY CALORIE CYCLE THAT THEY INTENDED TO DECERTIFY THE CITY AS THE LEA, UH, THAT STARTED NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY.
AND I WANT TO, UH, THANK CALORIE CYCLE FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN PARTICULARLY STEVE WAS LEVINE, UH, WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH US AND WE DID REACH A STIPULATED JUDGMENT.
UM, OUR, I SHOULD SAY IT WAS A STIPULATION FOR CONTINUATION OF HEARING.
IT WASN'T ACTUALLY A JUDGMENT.
UH, THE COUNCIL'S BEING ASKED TO ADOPT, UH, THE RESOLUTION 2020 DASH ZERO FOUR.
UH, WHAT IT REALLY DOES IS CLARIFY THE REPORTING STRUCTURE.
UH, THE LEA WILL NOW REPORT TO THE POLICE CHIEF, OR I'M SORRY, THE FIRE CHIEF HAS IT SAYS HERE.
UM, UH, WE WILL THEN UPDATE THE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM PLAN AND THE DESIGNATED INFORMATION PACKAGE, UH, AND ADDRESS A NUMBER OF OTHER ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
UH, WE DO THINK WE'VE MADE VERY SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS WITH, UH, CALORIE CYCLE AND, UH, WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION, UH, THE COUNCIL IS ALSO BEING ASKED TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH, UH, WRITTEN CON ENVIRONMENTAL, WHICH IS MR. SALMON.
DIEGO'S FROM ALSO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH COLE HUBER, WHICH HAS SERVED AS OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
AND ONE OF THE LARGEST ISSUES IS INSTALLATION OF A FENCE ALONG A CITY PROPERTY, UH, FOR A COST OF APPROXIMATELY $35,000.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, A CITIZEN CITY MANAGER, DOES CITY COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTION? NO QUESTIONS, BUT NICE TO SEE YOU, STEVE.
UH, YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YEAH.
AMBER MARIN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
UM, IT IS, UH, NICE WELCOMING TO COME BACK HERE TO THE CITY, UH, IN THE, IN THIS NEW PANDEMIC AREA.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M HERE AT YOUR SERVICE AND I'M READY TO HELP AND GO TO WORK AND GET THINGS DONE FOR YOU.
SO IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ASK, CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION? SO IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTION YES.
PROVIDE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THEN SHE, HE CAN DO TO APPEAL TO US WITH YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION SO WE CAN TALK TO YOU.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME ALL CONSOLE MEETING, BUT, UH, SO WE CAN HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU.
AND, UH, UH, COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHERWISE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? IT'S JUST GOING TO SAY IT'S NICE TO PUT A FACE TO A NAME.
SO THE MANAGER WOULD BE MENTIONING YOU AND THEM SO MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES.
SO WE'LL COME TO SHOW HIM, PUT THIS OVER HERE.
YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, I WAS AROUND WHEN YOU'VE WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR ALL THOSE YEARS, I WAS AROUND EVERY GIRL BY, BECAUSE SEE, YOU'RE UP THERE DOING ALL THOSE, WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM, WHAT ELSE OUT THERE? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OUT THERE AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK ON THE TEAM.
AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T NEED THIS INFORMATION.
I'VE KNOWN STEVE FOR MANY YEARS.
YOU'RE GOING TO SAY STEVE, HEY, YOU ARE PRIVILEGED.
I DON'T HAVE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN A WHO'S AGAIN.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOEMAKER.
I, OR WILL I, UH, CONGRATULATION WELCOME BACK AND JOINED A TEAM.
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WE NEED A SITE SAFE AND CLEAN.AND WE ARE GOING TO THE AB ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING.
DO WE HAVE ANY COUNCIL COMMENT, A REQUEST? I THINK YOU HAVE A REQUEST, RIGHT? UM, UH, THIS MOLDING MEETING, YOU HAVE A REQUEST IT'S TOO LAZY LEVEL CLOCK.
DID YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE REQUEST WE SAY NOW? THE MENTOR? MAY I JUST REQUEST, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER? NO.
THEN I SAID, NO, NOT THE AT, I USED TO SEE THE CONSOLE THAT, BUT IF NOBODY OR WE JUST GET THE INFORMATION, BY THE WAY, DID YOU, I DON'T REMEMBER EITHER.
I'M REALLY GETTING OUT THE DJS.
I ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING TO GO.
SO FOR SORRY TO DELAY T LEVEL CLOCK.
BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A LONG MEETING WITH SOME AGENDA.
OTHER THAN THAT, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, ALL THE, IF YOU REMEMBER JUST SENT YOU, I PUT IT IN GENDER AGENDA NEXT TIME.
OTHER THAN THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOTION? YEP.
I'M REALLY SORRY TO GO TO 11 O'CLOCK AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF.
WE SHOULD, SHOULD BE DONE WITH NINE 30, BUT NO MATTER WHAT.
AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY, WATCHING THE SHOW.
AND WE GET ANOTHER THING DONE, BE SAFE AND COULD NAI AND A MEETING OF GERMANY.