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[City Council on May 5, 2020]

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GOOD.

WELL, WE'LL COME TO WEST COVINA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TODAY IS MAY CO AND THEY HAVE AN OLD CLOCK SHOP AND A MEETING IN SESSION AND TONIGHT THE INVOCATION WOULD BE LED BY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MK CRESCO AND FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF LEGION LED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND THE OLD RICE PLEASE.

OKAY, MARK, PLEASE.

YES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

WHAT A SPOWER HEADS LORD OF THE UNIVERSE.

WE ASKED FOR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM AS WE EMBARK ON THE IMPORTANT BUSINESS OF THE CITY.

HELP US TO BE HONEST AND ETHICAL IN ALL OUR DEALINGS.

HELP US AS WE SERVE OTHERS, HELP US TO BE FULL OF GRACE AND HELP US TO FAITHFULLY FULFILL OUR OBLIGATIONS AS NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST COVINA COMMUNITY, OUR NATION, AND THE WORLD.

AMEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYBODY.

PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND PASTE THE FLAG AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I'VE LEGEND IS IN AMERICA.

EVERY VISIBLE JUSTICE PLEASE.

AND IF IT SAYS SAFETY CLUB ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOEMAKER, COUNCIL MEMBER.

THAT'S OKAY.

MAY I APPROACH HIM? LOPEZ, BEATA MAYOR WILL HIT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

I KNOW WE HAVE A THREE PROCLAMATION TONIGHT.

I WOULD HAVE AN ASSISTANT FOR TWO WEEKS.

I MEAN, THINK ABOUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I STILL WANT TO WISH THE SMALL BUSINESSES THIS WEEK IS NATIONAL.

OKAY.

SMALL BUSINESS WEEK AND I WANTED TO WISH ALL THE SMALL BUSINESS OR THE GOOD LUCK.

I KNOW IT'S TOUGH TIME RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE GOING TO GET TOGETHER AND TO GET THROUGH THIS AND THE CITY WILL DO EVERYTHING TO HELP YOU WHEN THE TIME'S UP, THE TIDES COME.

OKAY.

WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT THING HAPPEN AND MAKE SURE MOM AND POP SMALL BUSINESS, THE VIBE, PHYSICAL COVINA AND DO GOOD FOR THE FUTURE.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CHOOSING WEST COVINA IS YOUR HOMETOWN AND THE WAY I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS THIS WEEK.

NOW, UH, TO THE CITY CLUB.

WOULD YOU PLEASE WEED UP INFORMATION? MR MAYOR, TOM CITY ATTORNEY.

CAN I REPORT OUT REAL QUICKLY? OH, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

APPLE.

GOT YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY, SO GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

UH, SINCE THE SET OF THE, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

THE CT, THE CT TELLING YOU, WOULD YOU PLEASE, WE PULL OFF WITH A CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU, MR MAYOR.

WITH RESPECT TO GUTIERREZ, THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ON A BOAT OF FIVE TO ZERO COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO PAY THE PLAINTIFF $400,000 AND THEN RETURNED.

PLAINTIFF AGREED TO DISMISS THE CASE.

THANK YOU MR MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WELL MY SQUEAK.

OKAY.

GAIT.

WE DON'T HAVE YOUTUBE.

WE PULL OUT.

SO NEXT TIME I'M GOING TO ADD ON.

OKAY.

NOW LET'S SEE.

SINCE A CD CLIP, WOULD YOU PLEASE? OKAY.

READ THE FIRST PROCLAMATION.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN MR MAYOR? FIRST PROCLAMATION IS LUPUS AWARENESS MONTH, WHEREAS SYSTEMATIC LUPUS AND THROW MASS DOSES COMMONLY KNOWN AS LUPUS IS AN ACUTE CHRONIC COMPLEX AND OFTEN LIFE-THREATENING AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE.

AND WHEREAS RESEARCHERS ESTIMATE THAT 5 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH LUPUS OR RELATED DISEASES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE OR DIAGNOSED EVERY YEAR.

WHEREAS IT HAS BEEN ESTIMATED THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS LIVE WITH SOME FORM OF LUPUS AND WHEREAS WITH THIS STRIKES WOMEN OF CHILDBEARING AGE AND IT AFFECTS ALL ASPECTS OF LIVES AND WHEREAS WOMEN OF COLOR DEVELOP LUPUS AT A RATE OF TWO TO THREE TIMES THE RATE THAT CAUCASIANS DEVELOPED LUPUS.

WHEREAS THERE HAS ONLY BEEN ONE NEW DRUG APPROVED BY THE U S FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, SPECIFICALLY FOR LUPUS IN 57 YEARS.

CURRENT TREATMENTS FOR THE DISEASE HAVE DAMAGING EFFECTS AND WE RECOGNIZE THE URGENT NEED TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS AND THE CITY OF WEST COVINA OF THE DEBILITATING IMPACT OF LUPUS AS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

AND WHEREAS LOOMS FOR LUPUS, STRIVE TO EDUCATE AND INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS, EDUCATION AND RESEARCH, UH, WHICH ARE KEY TO WINNING THE BATTLE AGAINST LUPUS AND WHEREAS MAJOR GAPS EXIST IN THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE CAUSES

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AND CONSEQUENCES OF LUPUS.

NOW THEREFORE, OUR MAYOR OF WEST COVINA ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY, 2020 AS LUPUS AWARENESS MONTH RECOGNIZING LUPUS AS A SIGNIFICANT HEALTH ISSUE WORLDWIDE.

MAYOR SECOND ONE.

OKAY.

OUR SECOND PROCLAMATION IS FOR FIBROMYALGIA AWARENESS MONTH, WHEREAS FIBROMYALGIA IS A COMPLEX CHRONIC ILLNESS WITH CAUSES WHICH CAUSES FATIGUE, COGNITIVE PROBLEMS AND DEBILITATING PAIN IN WOMEN, MEN AND CHILDREN OF ALL AGES AND RACES.

AND WHEREAS OVER 4 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES, TWO TO 4% OF THE POPULATION AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH FIBROMYALGIA, A DISEASE FOR WHICH THERE IS NO KNOWN CURE AND WHEREAS FIBROMYALGIA OFTEN TAKES AN AVERAGE OF THREE, FIVE YEARS TO RECEIVE A DIAGNOSIS OF FIBROMYALGIA, WHEREAS THE SUPPORT FIBROMYALGIA AND THAT WORK LOOMS FOR LUPUS AND PEOPLE WITH EMPATHY HAVE JOINED TOGETHER TO ADVOCATE FOR FIBROMYALGIA AWARENESS, SUPPORT AND A BETTER FUTURE FOR RESEARCH, TREATMENT, DIAGNOSIS AND EDUCATION.

NOW THEREFORE, THE MAYOR OF WEST COVINA, MR TONY WOO ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY, 2020 AS FIBROMYALGIA AWARENESS MONTH.

THANK YOU LISA.

NUMBER THREE PLEASE.

YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

OUR THIRD PROCLAMATION, MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH, WHEREAS THE MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES IS A VITAL ISSUE THAT AFFECTS NOT ONLY QUALITY OF LIFE BUT ALSO THE HEALTH OF COMMUNITIES, FAMILIES AND ECONOMIC STABILITY.

AND WHEREAS INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS AND OTHER BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DISORDERS CAN AND DO RECOVER WITH CLINICAL TREATMENT AND SOCIAL SUPPORT INCLUDING MEDICATIONS, PSYCHOTHERAPY, PSYCHOSOCIAL REHABILITATION AND PEER SUPPORT.

AND WHEREAS RECOVERY BEGINS WITH SELF DIRECT CARE AND PARENTS, FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS ARE ALLIES IN RECOVERY AND SERVE AS CRITICAL MEMBERS OF THE CARE DELIVERY TEAM AND WHEREAS KAISER PERMANENTE EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH PROGRAM AND LOOMS FOR LUPUS, STRIVE TO EDUCATE AND INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS AND INDIVIDUALS CONNECT TO PEER SUPPORT SERVICES ARE BETTER CONNECTED TO THEIR COMMUNITY AND SERVICES AND UTILIZE CRISIS ANY EMERGENCY SERVICE LESS NOW.

THEREFORE, TONY WOO, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY, 2020 AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH RECOGNIZING MENTAL HEALTH AS A SIGNIFICANT HEALTH ISSUE WORLDWIDE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU LISA.

AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ORAL COMMUNICATION DUE TO THE CURRENT ONGOING PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY OVER-COMMUNICATION.

I'VE BEEN ACCOMMODATED VIA EMAIL AND TELEPHONE CALL AND THE ASSISTANT CITY CLERK NOW WHERE WE THE OVER-COMMUNICATION THAT WE'LL RECEIVE BY SIX 30 THIS EVENING IN PLACE.

TELEPHONE CALL THAT WAS REQUEST BY SIX 30 THIS EVENING.

AND THE ASSISTANT CITY CLERK.

HOW MANY EMAIL YOU WANT TO READ THROUGH? I HAVE TWO EMAILS ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MR. MAYOR.

UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE FIRST ONE? THE FIRST ONE IS FROM MR AND MRS. GOMEZ.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE A CONCERN IN REGARDS TO AN INCREASE OF FOOT TRAFFIC WALKING AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BETWEEN ME HOURS OF MIDNIGHT AND THE EARLY MORNING HOURS.

THE STREETS ARE MORE EMPTY DURING THIS TIME, SO INDIVIDUALS ARE NOW CHECKING MORE FOR UNLOCKED VEHICLES AND NOW GOING THROUGH OUR MAILBOXES.

I LIVE ON AVENUE BETWEEN BRANCA AND GRANT AND LAST WEEK MULTIPLE MAILBOXES WERE FOUND OPEN WITH MAIL STOLEN FROM ONE NEIGHBOR AND A CAR WAS BROKEN INTO THAT SAME NIGHT.

A REPORT WAS MADE ONLINE.

MY CONCERN AFTER VIEWING OUR CAMERAS THAT WE DO NOT SEE ANY POLICE CARS PATROLLING THIS AREA.

IF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WALKING AROUND DOING THIS WOULD SEE A PATROL CAR, MAYBE THEY WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT LOOKING FOR UNLOCKED CARS WITH THE HOMELESS LIVING BEHIND THE SEVEN 11 ON GRAND AVENUE, OUR STREETS ARE EVEN MORE VULNERABLE TO THIS.

I SUGGEST A LOOK INTO HOW MANY REPORTS HAVE BEEN MADE FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU MAY FIND AN INCREASE IN THIS TYPE OF CRIME.

PLEASE HAVE MORE PATROLLING AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. GOMEZ.

OKAY, NEXT ONE PLEASE.

OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MR J.

NEATER.

GOOD EVENING.

IN LIGHT OF CURRENT EVENTS, IT WOULD BE A, IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT THE CITY SHERIFF TAX REVENUE FROM MOST SOURCES WOULD BE SEVERELY CURTAILED, RESULTING IN

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A RATHER DRAMATIC EFFECT ON CITY SERVICES AND EXPENDITURES.

INCLUDED IN THE MIX IS THE OTHER PRESENT CLOUD OF THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF UNFUNDED PENSION AND BENEFITS LIABILITIES.

WHAT IS THE CITY PLANNING TO DO NEXT? I'M SORRY.

WHAT IS THE CITY PLANNING TO DO TO MEET THIS REVENUE SHORTFALL AND THE SHORT AND LONG TERM? A LARGE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY IS MADE UP OF PEOPLE WHO OWN OR WORK FOR SMALL BUSINESSES OR ARE OTHERWISE SELF-EMPLOYED AND THEY ARE THE ONES MOST AFFECTED.

THESE PEOPLE WILL NOT TOLERATE A TAX INCREASE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CANNOT ECONOMY ECONOMIC ACTIVITY ACROSS THE BOARD AS WE PRESS AND WILL REMAIN SO FOR SOME TIME.

SO WHAT REALISTICALLY COULD WITHSTAND INCREASED TAXATION? WE CAN ALL HOPE THE SITUATION IS NOT DIRE, BUT PLANNING SHOULD START NOW AND STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN NOW.

CITY EXPENDITURES MUST BE BROUGHT INTO LINE WITH REVENUE.

REVENUE CANNOT BE MADE TO SATISFY CITY EXPENDITURES.

THIS IS A COMPLEX PROBLEM.

REQUIRE ANY DETAILED PLAN.

I FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR CARMONEY.

HE STOPS ON THE MATTER.

RECENTLY I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS VIA YOUTUBE AND HAVE NOTICED THAT AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION MAYOR WILL THINKS THE COMMENTATORS AND ASK MR CARMONEY FOR OUR RESPONSE.

HIS RESPONSE IS INVARIABLY HIS RESPONSE INVARIABLY IS LESS THAN COMPLETE, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE SINCE HE IS BEING PUT ON THE SPOT SO TO SPEAK.

IN THE SHORT TIME I HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.

I HAVE NOT WITNESSED ANY RESPONSE FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBER.

IS THIS WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT? IF SO, THE COUNCIL SHOULD DIRECT MR CARMONEY TO MORE COMPLETELY ADDRESS THE CONCERN POSTS DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

I FOR ONE WOULD LIKE THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS ADDRESSED IN A MORE FORTHRIGHT DIRECT MAT MANNER BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO AFTER ALL ARE STEERING THE SHIP.

NO ONE IS EXPECTED TO HAVE A READY ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION, BUT EVERY PLACE SUCH AS WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING OR I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.

WHAT IS YOUR EMAIL? PHONE NUMBER IS PREFERABLE TO NO REPLY AT ALL.

FINALLY, IN LOOKING BACK AT THE AGENDA POSTINGS ON THE CITY WEBSITE, I NOTICED THERE IS NO RECENT ACTIVITY BY THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

THE LAST MEETING WAS JANUARY 22ND AND TO QUOTE THE CITY WEBSITE, THE COMMITTEE WILL MEET AT LEAST QUARTERLY AT CITY HALL AND HOLD OTHER MEETINGS AS AN ON NEEDED BASIS.

THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL THAT HAVE NOT BEEN REPLIED TO AND I DO NOT SEE ANY AUDIT COMMITTEE MEMBER MEETINGS SCHEDULED DURING THIS TIME OF DEPRESSED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND THE RESULTS DECREASE IN CITY REVENUE.

IT WOULD SEEM THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER IS THE TIME WHEN HELP AND ADVICE IS NEEDED.

EFFECTIVE LEADERS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO KNOW EVERYTHING.

SUCCESSFUL LEADERS SURROUND THEMSELVES WITH PEOPLE THAT DO KNOW EVERYTHING.

THAT IS THE END.

EXCELLENT.

MS TAMMY.

OKAY, NOW WE MOVE ON TO OUR CT MANAGERS.

OKAY.

WOULD YOU PLEASE RESPOND? SOME OF THIS TO A RESIDENT, THEIR CONCERN THAT, GO AHEAD.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY AS WE GOT INTO VIRGINIA, OKAY.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UH, OKAY.

IT BROKE INTO THEIR CAR AND A MAILBOX.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE NISSAN PATROL DUE TO THEY CLOSE TO THE SEVEN 11.

SO GO AHEAD.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS REGARDING THE SPENDING ISSUE.

GO AHEAD.

HMM.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS CITY MANAGER DAVID CARMONEY.

I'M GOING TO TRY AND BRIEFLY RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS RECEIVED AND BEGIN BY THANKING THE FOLKS FOR MAKING THOSE COMMENTS, UH, VIA EMAIL.

I, I GOT TO TELL EVERYONE THAT I TRULY MISS THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE PUBLIC IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

IT'S A MOMENT I LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO REOPEN.

THE FIRST COMMENT WAS FROM MR AND MRS. GOMEZ REGARDING SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, BURGLARIES AND MAILBOX PILFERING AND CARS BEING, UM, BROKEN INTO ON VIRGINIA AVENUE BETWEEN BRANCA AND GRAND.

I UM, MEET WITH THE CHIEF EVERY SINGLE DAY AND WHEN I MEET WITH HIM TOMORROW MORNING, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WAYS IN WHICH OUR DEPARTMENT MEMBERS CAN, UM, RESPOND TO THIS EITHER WITH A FOOT PATROLS OR, OR MORE VISIBLE BLACK AND WHITES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THANK YOU TO THE GOMEZ FOR THAT.

THE SECOND COMMENT WAS, UM, FROM MR J METER WEST COVINA RESIDENT WHO HAD UM, SOME VERY COGENT COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THE CITY'S LOSS OF TAX REVENUES.

IT'S A POINT THAT'S WELL-MADE AND CERTAINLY NOT LOST ON CITY STAFF OR CITY COUNCIL.

AS OF APRIL THE 29TH.

THE CITY, UM, HAD CASH AND IT'S GENERAL FUND IS SOME TWO POINT $8 MILLION.

WE'RE TRYING TO GENERAL FUND BUDGET OF $66 MILLION IS, UM, IS QUITE LOW IN TERMS OF LIQUIDITY.

THIS ISN'T A MEASURE OF THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE, BUT RATHER JUST CASH ON HAND AS OF THAT MOMENT.

THE COVEN PANDEMIC WORLDWIDE HAS CERTAINLY AFFECTED THE CITY'S ABILITY TO MEET ITS REVENUE PROJECTIONS IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

I NEED TO SAY THAT THE BUDGET WAS BEING MET THIS YEAR, RIGHT UP UNTIL

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MARCH WHEN WE RAN INTO THIS PANDEMIC.

BUT NOW WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES INCLUDING SALES TAX, TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX CAUSE NOBODY'S STAYING IN THE HOTELS.

AND QUITE SOON WE'LL SEE SOME REDUCTIONS IN PROPERTY TAXES AS WELL.

WE'VE BEGUN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING FOR PUBLIC AND COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF BALANCED BUDGET FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO MEET THAT LAST YEAR IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS WHERE WE ALWAYS LOOK IN TERMS OF OUR MAJOR SERVICES.

WE HAD UM, ESTIMATED SOME $66 MILLION IN REVENUE AND THAT IS GOING TO BE PROJECTED TO BE DOWN BY AT LEAST $2 MILLION IN THE COMING YEAR.

SO WE HAVE BEGUN, UM, MEETINGS, FORMAL INFORMAL MEETINGS WITH OUR EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATIONS, POLICE AND FIRE AND ALL THE MISCELLANEOUS GROUPS TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WAYS THAT THE CITY MIGHT ADDRESS THIS.

WE'RE IN CONVERSATION WITH THINGS THAT, UM, I'M HOPEFUL WILL BEAR FRUIT AND I CAN HAVE A REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL HOPEFULLY AS SOON AS THE NEXT MEETING.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MR MAYOR.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, DO YOU HAVE, UH, OKAY.

I MANAGE A PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

AND WE GOT INTO WHAT HAPPENED IS TWO WEEKS.

DO WE HAVE ANY IMPROVEMENT OR SOMETHING? WE'RE FACING OUR PANDEMIC YEAH, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

MR MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS CITY MANAGER DAVE CARMONEY.

AGAIN, I DO HAVE A BRIEF CITY MANAGER REPORT.

UM, IN TERMS OF PROJECTS GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THE QUESTION OF HOW DO WE CONVENE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND COMMUNITY PROJECTS AND WE'VE DECIDED TO GO VIRTUAL.

ALTHOUGH I'M PERSONALLY NOT A FAN OF ALL THESE ZOOM MEETINGS AND GO TO MEETING MEETINGS.

I'D MUCH PREFER THE IN PERSON.

I KNOW WE ALL DO.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THIS A TRY WITH ONE OF OUR VIRTUAL COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS WE'RE SETTING UP, WE HEAR FROM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND CITY ENGINEERING STAFF ABOUT POSSIBLE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CORNER OF CITRUS AND CAMERON.

IT'S AN INTERSECTION THAT HAS, UM, BEEN BESET WITH AN ACCIDENT HISTORY AND WHERE SIGNALIZATION IS PROBABLY WARRANTED BASED ON ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UM, AGAIN.

AND SO WE'RE GOT A MEETING COMING UP ABOUT THAT VIRTUAL WORKSHOP.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, TONIGHT I WANTED TO ESPECIALLY RECOGNIZE AND THANK OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, JEFF ANDERSON, WHO, UM, IS ANNOUNCED HIS INTENTION TO RETIREMENT.

THIS HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR SOME TIME, BUT JEFF IS A STALWART IN THE CITY HALL AND A VOICE OF REASON AND CALM AND WISDOM.

HE'S WORKED ON A NUMBER OF MEMORABLE PROJECTS AND WE WISH HIM EVERY BEST THING IN THE, IN THE RETIREMENT YEARS AHEAD.

COBIT, 19 UPDATES.

UM, OUR CITY HAS BEEN OPERATING UNDER STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY SINCE MARCH 16TH.

OUR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER IS ACTIVATED AT LEVEL THREE.

WE'RE MEETING AT LEAST DAILY AND OFTEN MORE OFFER OFF FROM THIS AS REQUIRED.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OPERATING UNDER A TACTICAL ALERT THREE AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS OPERATING UNDER SOME DIFFERENT PROTOCOLS.

EVERYBODY'S ASKING WHEN CAN WE REOPEN BUSINESSES? UM, GOVERNOR NEWSOME HAS ANNOUNCED THE REOPENING OF SOME RETAIL STORES ON FRIDAY THE EIGHTH COMING UP.

THIS IS, UM, CINCO DE MAYO.

SO IT COULD BE THAT WE'LL HAVE SOME BETTER GUIDELINES RELEASED TO LATER OUR COUNTY.

AND WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING QUITE CLOSELY AND COMPLYING LITERALLY WITH THE LA COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT ORDERS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF THE PANDEMIC.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, WE'RE GOING TO WATCH VERY, VERY CAREFULLY WHAT THE COUNTY HEALTH DIRECTOR HAS TO SAY.

THE NEXT SLIDE PERTAINS TO OUR EMERGENCY MEAL PROGRAM.

UM, I KNOW THE COUNCIL'S AWARE, I THINK THE PUBLIC IS AS WELL, THAT PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC WE WERE SERVING OUR SENIORS A VERY NICE HOME COOKED MEAL EVERY DAY IN A SENIOR CENTER, ABOUT 150 OF THOSE.

AND WE'VE NOW COMPLETELY TRANSITIONED THAT PROGRAM AWAY FROM A CONGREGATE MEAL TO DELIVERY.

SO OUR PART TIME STAFF AND OUR REC STAFF HAVE ALL STEPPED UP AND WE'RE RUNNING 10 ROUTES AND WE'RE NOW DELIVERING TO, UM, IF I RECALL ABOUT 500 WEST COMMUNITY RESIDENTS EVERY DAY.

UM, OH, HERE'S SOME APRIL FIGURES FOR OUR MEAL PROGRAM.

UM, APRIL WE SERVED 11,176 MEALS AND WE HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTING THE REGIONAL FOOD BANK BOXES AND WE'VE BEEN DISTRIBUTING THE MATH.

UM, I KNOW OUR MAYOR HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE GARNERING OF DONATIONS AND THE RESIDENTS ARE STILL ABLE TO PICK THOSE UP ON WEDNESDAYS BY DRIVING THROUGH THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND HERE'S SOME OF OUR HARD WORKING STAFF, UM, EXHIBITING THE DRIVE UP WINDOW THAT'S AVAILABLE AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

UM, I GET MORE NICE COMPLIMENTS ABOUT OUR STAFF.

I HAD SOMEBODY SAY, I CAN SEE THEM SMILING IN THEIR EYES BEHIND THE MATH AND I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM FOR THAT GREAT COMMUNITY SPIRIT.

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UM, THE MAYOR MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK.

WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES WHICH ARE SUFFERING.

WE'RE WORKING HARD TO SEE WHAT WE CAN BE ARRANGING WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO HELP THEM AS THEY BEGIN TO REOPEN AND TO RECOVER.

AND WE INTEND TO HAVE A PROGRAM ANNOUNCED, UH, LATER THIS WEEK TO HELP PRIME THAT PUMP WHEN IT'S TIME.

NEXT SLIDE.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SEE ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MARIN COUNCIL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CITY MANAGERS.

SO, SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO CONSENT, KEVIN.

OKAY.

UM, AND THESE CT COUNSELING, COULD YOU SEE CITY MANAGER AND THE TO POOL? I THINK YOU WANTED TO PULL A NUMBER OF FILE NUMBERS.

THANK YOU.

MIRA.

YES, PLEASE.

IF I MAY HAVE REMOVED FROM YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, ITEM FIVE, I'D LIKE TO DO SOME MORE WORK ON THAT MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS A PIGGYBACK BID.

I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT ONE BACK OUT TO BID AND SEE IF I CAN GET AN EVEN BETTER UNIT PRICE ITEM SEVEN AS WELL.

LIKE TO HAVE PULLED OFF.

I HAD A RESIDENT QUERY THIS AFTERNOON AND I'D LIKE A CHANCE TO ANSWER THAT MORE FULLY.

SO IF I COULD JUST REMOVE BOTH OF THOSE FROM THE CALENDAR TONIGHT, I'LL BRING THEM BACK AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

AND I'LL WALK OUT WITH A CD COUNCIL.

OKAY.

YOU WANT TO PUT ANY ITEMS TO DISCUSS? IF NONE.

OKAY.

AND DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YUP.

COOL.

WELL WE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

OKAY.

OTHERWISE.

OKAY.

AND UH, OH, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I DID NUMBER ONE.

YEAH.

WELL WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH.

OKAY.

SO MALE PROTEIN, NO, PASS VI.

DOPE.

OKAY.

MOVE TO MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND PHONE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'VE BEEN NUMBER 1236891011 1213 AND 14 AND ASSISTANT CITY CLERK.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COUNCILMAN CASTELLANO'S? YES.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHOEMAKER.

I MAY APPROACH HIM.

LOPEZ BEATO.

MAYOR.

WHO? AYE.

A MOTION APPROVED.

FIVE ZERO NOW WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 15 A PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

A CONSIDERATION OF THE COLA AMENDMENT NUMBER 16 DASH ZERO THREE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITATING THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.

OKAY.

THE MEDISAFE WILL, PUBLIC HEARING CONSISTS OF AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATED TO THE REVIEW PROCESS AND STANDARDS FOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FOR CDT AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY WHERE THE ASSISTANT CITY CLERK VERIFY THAT PROBABLY LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN.

PROPER LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN ME.

GOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THEN AT THIS TIME I SHALL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON COLE AMENDMENT NUMBER 16 TEST.

YOU ARE THREE.

THERE WILL FIRST BE THE PRESENTATION OF THE STAFF REPORT.

THEN WE SHOW HERE ON THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL.

THEN THOSE POSTS.

SO MR AN ECD MANAGER WHO WILL PRESENT A STAFF REPORT.

MR MAYOR, THIS EVENING'S REPORT FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING PRESENTED BY OUR PLANNING MANAGER, JOANNE BURNS.

YEAH, GO AHEAD, JOANNE.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE PRESENTATION WITH THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

ON FEBRUARY 16TH, 2016, THE CITY COUNCIL INITIATED A CODE AMENDMENT PERTAINING TO WIRELESS SELECT COMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, NOTHING WAS DONE THEN, UM, MAINLY BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME COURT DECISIONS THAT WERE, THAT THAT WERE BEING, UM, THAT THE CITY WERE, WERE WATCHING FOR.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CITY WAS IN THE PROCESS OF REORGANIZING OR HAD JUST REORGANIZED.

UM, AND THERE, THERE WERE, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UM, WAS, UM, WAS MOVED TO THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.

UM, IN SEPTEMBER 27, 2018 HAD THE FCC ORDERED ORDER RELEASE SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANTLY, SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITING LOCAL MANAGEMENT OF SOME MORE WIRELESS FACILITIES.

THEN ON APRIL 20 2009 APRIL, 2019 THE SUPREME COURT DECIDED, UM, A LAWSUIT REGARDING T-MOBILE WEST LLC VERSUS THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO WHERE THE COURT DETERMINED THAT MUNICIPALITIES CAN REGULATE

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AESTHETICS OF WIRELESS FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THE SAME, THE SAME MONTH IN A YEAR.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IMMEDIATELY ADOPTED DESIGN GUIDELINES.

IN RESPONSE TO THIS.

IN JULY OF 2019, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND APPROVED FIVE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS FOR SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY PROPOSED ON TOP OF REPLACE REPLACEMENT LIGHT POLES.

THIS DECISION WAS ULTIMATELY APPEALED TO THE, UM, ON AUGUST 5TH, 2019 TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2019, THE CITY COUNCIL BOARD VOTED TO OVERTURN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION AND DENIED THE APPLICATION.

UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEN HELD PUBLIC HEARINGS REGARDING THE CODE AMENDMENT ON NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER, 2019 AND ALSO ON JANUARY 28 2020 ON JANUARY 8TH, 2022 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PROVIDED INPUT AND EXPRESS REVIEWS ON THE CITY ADOPTING STRICTER AESTHETIC STANDARDS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY VOTED FOR ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVED APPROVAL OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, THIS CODE AMENDMENT IS A THREE PART PROCESS.

THE FIRST PROCESS WAS THE STUDY, THE STUDY SESSION AND STUDY.

SEVERAL STUDY SESSIONS WERE HELD IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CODE WAS DRAFTED BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDED.

UM, THE SECOND PART IS THE REVIEWING OF THE CODE AMENDMENT, UM, WHICH WAS DONE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

AND IT IS NOT BEING DONE THROUGH THIS PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO APPROVE OR ADOPT THIS CODE AMENDMENT.

THE STAFF WILL, UM, WORK WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN UPDATING THE ADOPTED DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO OVER THE CURRENT CODE.

THE CITY DOES HAVE A CODE OF PERTAINING TO WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES.

THIS IS DIVISION 16 OF THE ZONING CODE, UM, THAT THIS CODE SECTION STATES THAT, UM, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, UM, DIFFICULT SECTION STATES THAT WEALTH TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES THAT ARE OWNED BY A PUBLIC UTILITY ARE NOT REGULATED UNDER THIS CODE SECTION.

AND IN THIS CASE, WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES ARE, OR COMPANIES ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC UTILITIES BY THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, DIFFICULT SECTION STATES WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES ARE PROHIBITED IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, HOWEVER, IT PROVIDES AN EXCEPTION, UM, EXCEPT FOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES ATTACHED TO LIGHT POLES, PUBLIC UTILITY POLE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND SIMILAR STRUCTURES.

THEREFORE, THE EXISTING CODE SECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO, UM, TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE, UM, SUCH FACILITIES ARE TYPICALLY ATTACHED TO LIGHT POLES.

UM, UTILITY PULLS OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

UM, AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT BEFORE APRIL, 2019, APPLICATIONS FOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WERE JUST SUBMITTED TO THE ENGINEERING DIVISION AND WE'RE ALLOWED THROUGH JUST AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT PROCESS.

BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED THE DESIGN GUIDELINES IN APRIL, 2019, AESTHETICS WERE NOT CONSIDERED AT ALL BY THE CITY.

UM, AND IT WASN'T UNTIL AFTER APRIL, 2019 WHEN THE SUPREME COURT VALIDATED THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WERE ALLOWED TO REVIEW A AESTHETIC THAT WAS WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION SALTED IT.

AND THAT'S WHEN THE CITY STARTED REGULATING AESTHETICS FOR SMALL WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO OVER, UM, KNOWN EXISTING FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY.

SO THE DOTS ON THE MAP, UM, ARE LOCATIONS OF EXISTS.

NO ONE EXISTING WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.

UH, UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP MOST OF THESE AIR, MOST OF THESE FACILITIES ARE CONCENTRATED IN THE SOUTH PART OF

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THE CITY, WHICH IS CALLED THE WOODSIDE VILLAGE AREA.

AND THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE DENSEST RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE CITY.

SO IT'S THEIR AREA WHERE I'M POINTING THE ARROW AT.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND GO OVER PHOTOGRAPHS OF EXISTING FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN THE CITY.

SO THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH IS LOCATED IS A FACILITY THAT'S LOCATED ON AN AMER AND AZUSA.

I HAVE THE RED ARROWS POINTING TO THE ANTENNAS IN THE EQUIPMENT.

UM, AND THEN THE ONE TO THE RIGHT IS ON NOGALES AND SHADOW OAK.

AGAIN.

UM, BOTH FACILITIES LOOK SIMILAR.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE THREE OTHER ONES.

UM, W ONE IS LOW.

THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH IS LOCATED ON GRAND IN CAMERON AND UM, THE RED ARROWS SHOW WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE LOCATED.

SO THIS IS THE BOX AND THIS IS THE ANTENNA RIGHT ALONG HERE.

UM, AND THEN THE MIDDLE PICTURE IS THE LARGEST ONE WE HAVE IN THE CITY, WHICH IS LOCATED ON VINCENT AND YOURSELF.

UM, UM, SOUTH OF LA QUINTA AVENUE.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE ANTENNA IS ATTACHED TO THE YUKON UTILITY POLE AND THE EQUIPMENT AND ALSO, UM, PORTION OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON THE SIDEWALKS RIGHT ALONG HERE.

AND NEXT IS ON SHADOW, UM, NEAR, NEAR SHED OAK PARK.

SO THEN 10 ON TOP, SOME EQUIPMENT ON THE POLE ITSELF AND ALSO OF OTHER EQUIPMENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE UP ON THE SIDEWALK.

NEXT, I'LL GO OVER THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

ADOPT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

UM, FIRST OFF IN THE ADOPTED DESIGN GUIDELINES, UM, THERE IS TWO, TWO DIFFERENT, UM, REVIEW PROCESSES THAT DESIGN GUIDELINE IDENTIFIES.

UM, SO BASICALLY IF THEY COMPLY, IF THE APPLICANT COMPLIES WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINE, THEN THE, THE APPLICATION IS, UH, IS REVIEWED AND APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY UNLESS IT'S APPEALED.

UM, IF, IF IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, WHICH IN THIS CASE, UM, IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW INITIALLY.

UM, THE LOCATION IS IDENTIFIED AS 100 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

UM, SO THEY HAVE APPLIC APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

UM, OTHERWISE IT AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERS A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

UM, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT APPLICANTS ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME WITH FACILITY AND SUPPORT EQUIPMENT WOULD HAVE, ARE REQUIRED TO BE UNDERGROUNDED.

UM, THE, THE ANTENNAS AND IN RADIO UNITS WOULD HAVE TO BE CONCEALED OR SURROUNDED ON TOP, WHICH IS THE AREA AROUND WHERE THE ARROW'S POINTING.

AND THEN, UM, WIRELESS WIRES, I'M SORRY, WIRES AND CABLES WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE POLE ITSELF.

SIGNAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO THE MINIMUM ALLOWED BY LAW AND TO THE POLE ITSELF WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE OUT OF AGGREGATE.

UM, OR CONCRETE, UH, IN HA WOULD HAVE TO BE A, UH, A COLOR THAT MATCHES EXISTING FOOT POLES WITHIN THE VICINITY, UM, IN THE HEIGHT.

UM, THE POLE WITH THE INTENT CANNOT EXCEED 35 FEET IN HEIGHT.

SO I'LL GO NEXT.

I'LL GO HOME OVER THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS.

THE FIRST CHANGE IS DIVISION THREE, WHICH IS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SECTION.

IT JUST CLARIFIES THAT, UM, THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FINDINGS, UM, ARE FOR PROJECTS LOCATED WITHIN A LAND ZONE, UM, WHICH IS OUR AREAS WITH ZONING DESIGNATION.

UM, AND IT, IT ALSO, IT, IT ALL BECAUSE, UM, THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT PROVIDE SEPARATE FINDINGS FOR A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UM, ITEM.

AND THEN IT ALSO CO, UM, CROSS REFERENCES WHERE THESE FINDINGS

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ARE LOCATED OR PROJECT LOCATED WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

AND I'LL GO, I'LL GO OVER THAT LATER ON.

UM, DIVISION 16, UM, WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES.

BASICALLY, THAT WAS THE, THE CODE SECTION THAT I WENT OVER EARLIER.

UM, WHICH THE CHANGE TO THIS IS JUST CLARIFY.

THE DIVISION 16 WILL NOT APPLY TO WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

SO IT'S, UM, TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR, UH, CROSS-REFERENCES WORK, THE CODE SECTION PERTAINING TO WIRELESS COMMUNICATION IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS LOCATED SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AROUND AND SEARCHING THE CODE, UM, JUST TO SEE WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

SO IT, IT'S JUST A CROSS REFERENCE.

AND THEN ON DIVISION 29, UM, DIVISION 29 IS A NEW DIVISION THAT WAS CREATED.

UM, IT STATES THAT I DIDN'T MINISTRATIVE REVIEW APPLICATION IS REQUIRED FOR MINOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION, UM, FACILITY PERMITS.

SO MY, UM, MINOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY PERMITS ARE TYPICALLY SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES OR, OR, UM, EXISTING FACILITIES THAT ARE, UM, GETTING MINOR MODIFICATION OR A FACILITY OR FACILITIES THAT COMPLY WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES IN GENERAL.

UM, IT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A WIRELESS TO THE COMMUNICATION FROM FACILITIES THAT DO NOT COMPLY, THAT DO NOT QUALIFY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

SO IF IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEN IT WOULD NOT BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH REQUIRES PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW.

AT THE VERY LEAST, THIS IDENTIFIES APPLICATION SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS AND APPLICATION REVIEW PROCEDURES AND IT IDENTIFIES DESIGN, UM, IN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

SO THE DESIGN, THE DESIGN IS MEANT TO BE VAGUE IN THE CODE BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THE CODE IS RAN, IT REFERENCES A DESIGN GUIDELINES SO THAT IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT THE, UM, THAT ARE MADE BY EITHER THE SUPREME COURT OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STAFF CAN QUICKLY, UM, CAN QUICKLY TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TO, TO MAKE A REVISION TO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, IDENTIFY, UM, IT IDENTIFIES OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE STANDARDS.

IT OUTLINES PROCEDURES FOR PERMIT, EXPIRATION, ABANDONMENT REMOVAL AND LEGAL NONCONFORMING FACILITIES.

AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL.

THE PLAN COMMISSION ASKED THE STAFF TO RESEARCH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND HOW OTHER CITIES ARE REVIEWING, UM, WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, STAFF RESEARCHED, UM, NEARBY TEN-YEAR BY CITIES.

UM, WE RE, UM, WE INCLUDED THE CITY OF BALDWIN PARK.

THIS, THE CITY OF BALDWIN PARK HASN'T HAD DESIGN GUIDELINES.

SO BASICALLY THE WAY THAT THEY PROCESS SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES IS THAT THEY, IF IT COMPLIES WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE.

UM, IF IT DOESN'T, IT'S, IT REQUIRES, UM, A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

UM, THEY DO NOT HAVE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, TO OR FROM RESIDENTIAL AND THEY DON'T HAVE A SEPARATION BETWEEN POLES REQUIREMENTS.

THE CITY OF COVINA REVIEWS THAT THROUGH AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT PROCESS, WHICH IS ISSUED BY PUBLIC WORKS.

THEY DO NOT HAVE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL AND THEY DO NOT HAVE A SEPARATION BETWEEN POLLS.

UM, CITY OF ERINDALE IS PROCESSED BY THEIR PUBLIC WORKS.

AGAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE THE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL AND SEPARATION BETWEEN POLES EITHER.

UM, CITY OF INDUSTRY IS PROCESSED ADMINISTRATIVELY, UM, EITHER PLANNINGS DIVISION OR DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE DISTANCE FROM ESSENTIAL AND SEPARATION BETWEEN POLES EITHER.

UM, THE CITY OF SENDING THEM AS A SIMILAR, THE PR PROCESS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE CITY OF BALDWIN PARK AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL AND SEPARATION BETWEEN POLES, CITY OF WALNUT ADMINISTRATIVELY, IT'S REVIEWED ADMINISTRATIVELY PLANNING, UM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, RESIDENTIAL DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AND SEPARATION BETWEEN POLES EITHER.

UM, CITY OF GLENDORA IS THE SAME THING, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO GENERALLY TO REVIEW PROCESSES A MINOR, UM, UM, AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW OR MINOR WIRELESS FACILITIES AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES.

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THEY DON'T HAVE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL AND THEY DON'T HAVE SEPARATION BETWEEN POLES THAT THE CITY OF OMANI.

UM, THEY PROCESS EVERYTHING ADMINISTRATIVELY.

UM, AGAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL AND SEPARATION BETWEEN COLES.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THE NEARBY CITIES, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE CITY LOOKED AT THE CITY OF COSTA MESA REQUIREMENTS AND AT THAT TIME, UM, COSTA MESA IS WORKING WITH, WAS WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IN MODIFYING THEIR CODE.

SO THIS WAS THEN BEFORE THAT.

BUT UM, I WAS TOLD THAT, UM, SINCE THEN IT'S THE DESIGN GOT THEIR DESIGN GUIDELINES DID NOT CHANGE OR HAS NOT CHANGED.

UM, BASICALLY THEY REQUIRE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW FIRM, WHICH IF THROUGH THEIR MINOR CUP PROCESS, UM, SO IN A PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING IS TRIGGERED BY NONCOMPLIANCE WITH DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEY DO REQUIRES 25 SEATS FROM RESIDENTIAL, BUT THIS IS ONLY A REVIEW THRESHOLD OR A TRIGGER.

SO IF THEY DON'T, SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S LESS THAN 25 FEET, IT'S, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE ALLOWED, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW.

UM, AND THE SAME WITH THE SEPARATION.

THEIR TRIGGER IS 500 FEET.

IF IT'S CLOSER THAN 500 FEET FROM ANOTHER HOLE, THEN IT TRIGGERS PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW.

AND UNDER THE PROPOSED OUR PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW WILL BE TRIGGERED BY NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE DINE GUIDELINE, THE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL IN THE PROPOSED CODE IN THE PCB, ONE AREA WHICH IS THE WOODSIDE VILLAGE AREA, W, UM, IS 15 FEET AND IN OTHER AREAS IS 30 FEET.

SO THIS IS MAINLY BECAUSE IN THE WOODSIDE VILLAGE AREA, THE REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK FOR RESIDENTIAL IS 10 FEET.

SO WE JUST ADDED ANOTHER FIVE FEET.

AND GENERALLY FOR OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE CITY, IT'S 30 THE, THE REQUIRED STEP BACK FOR A HOUSE IS 25 FEET.

SO IN THIS CASE WE'RE REQUIRING 30 FEET.

AND AGAIN, ADDING ANOTHER FIVE FEET IN SEPARATION BETWEEN POLES IS 250 FEET, WHICH AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A THRESHOLD, UM, FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO IF IT'S LESS THAN 250 FEET, THEN IT WOULD HAPPEN, THEN IT'S AUTOMATICALLY A CDP.

BUT IF IT'S MORE THAN 250 FEET, THEN IT CAN JUST BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVE RATES, ASSUMING THAT THEY COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER DESIGN GUIDELINES.

UM, WITH, BEFORE, BEFORE I GO AHEAD AND READ OUT THE RECOMMENDATION, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE CITY, UM, BEFORE THE HERE, UM, THE MEETING THE CITY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM VERIZON WIRELESS AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR LETTER.

UM, UM, IT APPEARS THAT THE LETTER ASSUMED THAT UNDER THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, MOST SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES WOULD REQUIRE A MAJOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS PERMIT APPLICATION, WHICH IN WHICH, UM, IT WOULD WITH TODAY'S DESIGN GUIDELINES.

HOWEVER, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT THIRD PART TO THIS PROCESS IS TO REEVALUATE AND REVISE EXISTING DESIGN GUIDELINES.

SO IF THE PLANNING, IF THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, APPROVED THE ORDINANCE AND ADULTS AND IN REC AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE, THEN THE STAFF WILL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND, AND WORK WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND REVISING EXISTING DESIGN GUIDELINES.

UM, AND IN ADDITION, THE ORDINANCE, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WAS PURPOSELY RAN TO BE A LITTLE BIT VAGUE.

UM, AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE DESIGN, UH, MAINLY BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN TO GO HAND IN HAND WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, UM, IS THAT IS GOING TO BE REVISITED.

UM, LATER ON AFTER THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, APPROVED AN ORGANISM, UM, WITH THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I MEAN, I'M SORRY WITH THIS,

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THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 24, SEVEN.

UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS OPTIONS, UM, ONE WHICH IS TO APPROVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OR TO, TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE DIRECTION.

THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

YEAH, SO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YEAH, THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.

SO I DID CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

YES, THIS IS MAYOR PRO TEM.

I HAD A QUESTION TO THE OTHER CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL AND FULL, UM, WELL THE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL AND THE SEPARATION BETWEEN FACILITY AND POLES, DOES THAT MEAN THOSE CITIES IT'S WIDE OPEN.

IT COULD BE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, I MEAN, DID YOU LOOK AT THAT? UM, I DID AND WELL IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE.

SOME CITIES LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE CITY OF LA CLINICA, THEY JUST ISSUE IT THROUGH AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT PROCESS.

UM, SO THEY DON'T REALLY CONSIDER THAT THE AESTHETICS OF IT.

SO THAT'S JUST WIDE OPEN THERE.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT COME THAT DON'T HAVE A DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES THAT DO REVIEW AESTHETICS.

UM, LIKE THE CITY OF GLENDORA, THE CITY OF BALDWIN PARK IN THE CITY OF SAN DEMAS.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE THIS, THEY DON'T HAVE, HAVE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL.

UM, BUT THEY DO REVIEW THE AESTHETICS AND THEY DO HAVE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT THEY FOLLOW.

OKAY.

AND THEN WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH THIS, WHEN WE WERE HEARING ALL THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO BACK, I DON'T KNOW, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, UM, THE MAJOR NETWORK WITH T-MOBILE AND NOW I'M HEARING IT'S FOR RIDES IN WIRELESS.

IT'S OUT AND IT'S JUST VERIZON WIRELESS.

CAUSE THAT'S MY CONCERN IS LIKE HOW MANY NETWORKS COME THROUGH.

OKAY.

SO THE INITIAL APPLICATION THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, LAST YEAR WAS SUBMITTED BY CROWN CASTLE IN CRANK CAPITAL.

LUMBER REPRESENTS SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, TELECOMMUNICATIONS PROVIDERS.

AND THAT APPLICATION HAPPENED TO BE FOR T-MOBILE.

UM, VER VERIZON HAS BEEN CONTACTING WHAT HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY SINCE, SINCE, UM, LAST YEAR.

AND WE, THEY WANTED TO SUBMIT FOR AN APPLICATION FOR A SMALL WIRELESS FACILITY.

BUT THAT WAS HELD UP BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD AT THAT TIME THAT THEY WERE, BECAUSE OF OUR DESIGN, THE STRICT RULE OF OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEY WERE TRYING TO SEE IF WE WE CAN ADOPT, WE WOULD ADOPT AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE AT THAT TIME WE WERE ALREADY WORKING IN AN ORDINANCE AND THEY, AND IT WASN'T, WE WERE UNDER THE, OR THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

UM, SOON, SO, BUT, UM, RECENTLY, UM, EARLIER, UH, LAST MONTH, WHICH IS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE DID RECEIVE AN APPLICATION FOR VERIZON WIRELESS FOR SMALLER WIRELESS FACILITIES.

AND THE LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING WAS FROM VERIZON'S LEGAL TEAM.

UM, AND IT DOES, IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT VERIZON WASN'T IN THE PICTURE, UM, IN THE PAST.

BUT THEY DID PROVIDE, THEY WERE THE ONES THAT PROVIDED A PUBLIC COMMENT LETTER.

WE DID NOT GET ANY PUBLIC COMMENT LETTER FROM T-MOBILE, BUT THEY, THEY, T-MOBILE DOES, UM, INSTILL INTENSE ON RECENT OR CROWN TASSELS STILL INTENDS ON RESUBMITTING FOR SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES IN THE CITY.

AND IS THERE A LIMIT OF HOW MANY NETWORKS CAN BE TAKEN? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DOES HE HAVE TO COUNSEL ANY QUESTION? NONE.

OKAY.

I WAS FOR A QUESTION FOR JOANNE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKING THROUGH IT ON PAGE FIVE, UNDER DIVISION 29 WHERE IT SAYS IT'S OUR POSITION THAT ALL OF THE SUPPORTING INTREPID SHOULD BE UNDERGROUND NOW, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU THAT IN THERE.

IT JUST SAYS UNDERGROUND, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING WHAT IF IT'S A STANDALONE, A

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CELL TOWER THAT THEY WANT TO PUT UP WITH? I DON'T KNOW, A LIGHT POLE NOW, BEFORE WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT BACK THE LAST TIME, WHICH I REJECTED 100%.

ANY EQUIPMENT THAT SOMEBODY THAT BY THE GROUND, I COULDN'T BUY THAT.

SO I'M WANTING TO, WHY CAN'T THAT BE PUT IN WRITING THAT ALL EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE UNDERGROUND? THE MAP.

IT'S A STAND ALONE ALL THE TIME OF MAPLE.

CAN YOU ANSWER THAT, JOANNE? GO AHEAD.

UM, THERE ARE FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT, UM, OR FEDERAL LAWS THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH AND WE CAN'T EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS, UM, WIRELESS FACILITIES FROM BEING LOCATED, UM, IN THE CITY IF THEY HAVE ABOVE GROUND METERING.

UM, AND IF THEY HAVE ABOVE GROUND EQUIPMENT, UM, WE CAN ONLY REGULATE IS IT A STATIC, UM, THAT CAN, UM, CAN BE TIED TO A FETISH.

UM, AND THAT, UM, IN PARTICULAR IN THIS CODE AND THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IN PARTICULAR, WE DON'T SAY THAT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

UM, IT JUST, IT'S JUST ONE OF THE REVIEW TRIGGERS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION ON WHAT THE COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

WE CAN REGULATE, UM, EQUIPMENT ABOVE GROUND WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S DUE TO SAFETY OR NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THE SIDEWALK.

UM, AND ALSO WE CAN, IF, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW OR, OR, OR MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT FOR ABOVE JOHN EQUIPMENT TO BE INSTALLED, IF IT'S, IF IT'S BECAUSE OF AESTHETICS YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, UM, MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT THEY CAN DO AESTHETICALLY TO MITIGATE THAT IMPACT THAT, THAT THE CITY IS DETERMINING.

UM, IN THIS CASE, IF IT REQUIRES, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, UH, YOU CAN REQUIRE IT TO BE, YOU CAN REQUIRE THEM TO INSTALL LANDSCAPING TO SCREEN IT FROM PUBLIC VIEW.

YOU CAN REQUIRE THEM TO DO AN ALTERNATE.

ANOTHER ALTERNATE WAY OF, OF SCREAMING IT AND MAKING IT MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

GOT IT.

VERY CLEAR.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU JUST USE THAT, THAT TAKE THE ONE TO BE VIEWED BY PLANNING OR WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEE AND THEN BASICALLY BASED ON THE FEDERAL GUIDELINE, WE CANNOT LOOK ON WHY TO DO THAT.

POSSIBLY WHETHER YOU WAS TRYING TO SAY AND OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M IN JOHNSON AND THE OTHER QUESTION, YES.

AND I ALSO, I, I SEE WHAT THEY SAY 250 FEET APART AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM NO MATTER WHAT ON A 250 FEET APART.

AND I CAN SAY I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING GOING ABOVE GROUND.

SO IF WE, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT NOT ONLY SHOULD GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF SOMETHING LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE, COULD COME THROUGH THE COUNCIL AND ANYTHING THAT, UH, GOES AGAINST ANYTHING COMING ABOVE THE GROUND, I CAN'T ACCEPT ANYTHING ABOVE THE GROUND AS FAR AS DOING EQUIPMENT.

VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS LIKE THIS? THIS IS THING I HAVE ANOTHER, THIS IS ADEQUATE, UM, ON YOUR, ON THE PRESENTATION YOU MADE.

I KNOW WITH THE EXISTING PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, UH, ESPECIALLY VINCENT AND YOURSELF OF WHEN IT IS, IT'S AN EYESORE.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU PUT OUT, THE ADMIN REVIEW AND THEN THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

IT'S, IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

UM, YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE SLIDES.

SO, YEAH, I MEAN IT HAS SO MANY THINGS GOING ON.

IT'S NOT EVEN AS WITH DATE SMALL, BUT IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WITH THE ADMIN REVIEW AND DISCRETIONARY VIEW, IF YOU COULD PULL THAT UP, THE, THE PREVIOUS ONE WHERE IT SHOWS ADMIN REVIEW.

THERE YOU GO.

YEAH.

MINISTRATIVE REVIEW VERSUS THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

THE ADMIN REVIEW, IT'S MUCH CLEANER AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AESTHETICALLY, IT'S NOT AN EYESORE, BUT THE DISCRETIONARY VIEW, IT HAS A LOT OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY THE LARGE TRIAL, THE ABOVE GROUND, THE SIDEARM, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA.

UM, ARE YOU STATING THAT IF THEY APPROVE IT WOULD BE THE ADMIN, BUT TO GET SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, THERE'S, THERE IS A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL GIVE AND IT'S

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GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT? NO, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT.

IF IT'S A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

THIS IS IF, IF LET'S SAY AN APPLICATION COMES IN FRONT OF THE CITY, UM, OR IN FRONT OF STAFF AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THEY'RE PROPOSING A SMALL WIRELESS FACILITY IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

AND SO IF WE SEE THE FIRST, UM, THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH, WHICH IS THE ADMIN, WHICH IS THE ADMIN REVIEW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DETERMINE THAT, UM, THE, THAT STAFF CAN JUST APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVELY.

UM, IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS SOMEWHAT, UM, OKAY, THAT LOOKED SOMEWHERE SIMILAR TO THE PICTURE BELOW DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE APPLICANT TO MODIFY THE, THE PROPOSAL SO THAT IT'S MORE WITH THE ADMIN REVIEW.

OTHERWISE, IF THEY REFUSE, THEN WE WOULD FORWARD IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

AND IT WOULD BE UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON WHAT, WHAT MITIGATION OR, UM, WHAT AESTHETIC, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS THEY WOULD MAKE.

UH, SO THAT THE, THAT THE APPLICATION OR THE, THE WIRELESS FACILITY WOULD BE MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

SO THEY ALL, THE, WHEN GOES TO THE HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL HAS THE OPTION OF IDENTIFYING SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO FIX IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PROJECT APPROVABLE.

SO THEY CAN, THEY CAN DIRECT THEM TO THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

BUT IN, IN THIS CASE, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY, UM, THEY ARE NOT GONNA COMPLY WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF STATEMENT OR SOME KIND OF PROOF WHY THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THAT PARTICULAR, UM, GUIDELINE OR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL WILL REVIEW THAT TO SEE IF, IF THEY'RE, IF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS REASONABLE.

OKAY.

AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE, AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE WHEN THEY SAY, CAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH CROWN CASTLE AND WE SAID THE UNDERGROUND AND THEY SAID, WELL THAT'S GOING TO COST MORE MONEY.

I MEAN THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AND THAT'S NOT OUR ISSUE BECAUSE WE WANTED A ASCETICALLY APPEALING.

SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, IS THAT ALSO, UM, CAN THEY UTILIZE THAT AS A DESIGN GUIDELINE WHERE THEY SAY, I DON'T HAVE, I MEAN IT'S TOO MUCH.

AND IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION GOING TO GO TO THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW OR THIS IS THE ADMIN REVIEW IS GOING TO BE LIKE THE HARD, UM, FINAL THING THAT THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE WITH.

SO THE, THE, UM, IT WOULD GO TO THE, IT WOULD GO TO THE PLANT, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO IT'S EITHER GOING TO MEET THE AD, THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, BE ADMIN REVIEW STANDARDS, OR IF IT DOESN'T, IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, OR, UH, MAJOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS.

SO, UM, PERMIT.

OKAY.

THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

JUST ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT IN THIS WAY.

UH, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE ADMIN REVIEW AND DISCRETION REVIEW PICTURES IS BECAUSE THE APPLICANT WANTS TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

THEY WANT THAT.

THAT'S THEIR GOAL IS TO GET THAT BECAUSE IT'LL BE CHEAPER, IT WILL BE FASTER AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO DISCRETIONARY VIEW.

SO IF YOU SHOW THEM THE PICTURE AND SAY DO THIS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH DISCRETIONARY VIEW, MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT IF THEY CAN PHYSICALLY POSSIBLY DO IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER CITY COUNCILS? ANY QUESTION? I HAVE A QUESTION.

UNDER THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, IT'S SUBSECTION PATH UNDER SECTION 26 65 POINT 11 600.

IT SAYS LOG INCLUDING ELECTRIC METER.

ALL ACCESSORY EQUIPMENT SHALL BE LOCATED UNDERGROUND.

SO THAT'S THE AREA THAT ADDRESSES THE UNDERGROUNDING OF THE EQUIPMENT? CORRECT.

SO THE ONLY PART THAT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE IS ELECTRIC, WHICH FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS US FROM INCLUDING, THAT'S CORRECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHY DID WE SETTLE ON A 250 FEET BETWEEN THE TOWERS AND NOT DO 500 FEET? THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY ATTORNEY OR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, UM, AT THE TIME RECOMMENDED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT REQUIRE MORE THAN THAN 250 FEET.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT THE, UM, IN, IN

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THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION, UM, ANYTHING OVER 200 FEET, UM, IS ANYTHING OVER 200 FEET, UM, WOULDN'T, MAY NOT BE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE.

THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.

WHERE IF COSTA MESA HAS 500 FEET.

RIGHT.

UM, I BELIEVE AT THE TIME, UM, THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR COSTA MESA, UM, SAID SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT THAT THEIR COUNSEL STILL STILL, UM, ADOPTED THE 500 FEET.

SO, BUT THAT IS JUST A THRESHOLD FOR THE DISCRETIONARY LEVEL.

IT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY WOULDN'T, THAT THEY WOULDN'T, UM, BE ABLE TO HAVE A SMALLER WIRELESS FACILITY IF IT'S MORE THAN MORE THAN 500 FEET OR MORE THAN 250 FEET.

IT'S JUST THAT WITH, WITH STAFFING AND WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, APPLICABLE.

UM, THE, THE CLOSE, THE CLOSER THE, THE THRESHOLD, THE MORE APPLICATIONS THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL WILL REVEAL.

OKAY.

AND, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'M NOT FINISHED.

BUT I MEAN, ONE OF THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS WAS HOW MANY WOULD END UP IN OUR CITY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL-CELL WIRELESS, UH, BAIJI MEETING 500 FEET AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE SETTING IT AT TWO 50 TO GET DISCRETIONARY.

I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE, AGAIN, WHY WE WOULD SET THE THRESHOLD AT 250 FEET WHEN QUITE FRANKLY, I WOULDN'T WANT THEM CLOSER THAN 500 FEET.

THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

I THINK THE, UM, THIS, THE ADVICE WE WERE GIVEN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THEY'RE THERE, THEIR GOAL IS TO REDUCE LIABILITY.

SO THEY'RE SUGGESTING THAT IF YOU GO OVER THE 200 AND YOU'RE INCREASING YOUR LIABILITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THE CITY IS TRYING TO AVOID.

SO THAT'S ONE ANSWER TO THAT.

UM, WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE BEFORE THE 500 FEET WAS, UH, WITH THE 500 FEET, UH, WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THERE WAS ANOTHER PART OF THAT 500 FEET.

THIS IS ALLOWING IN THE RESIDENTIAL, WE'RE JUST SAYING WE DON'T WANT THEM EVERY SIX INCHES BASICALLY.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS IN OPEN SESSIONS SINCE IT'S LEGAL ADVICE, I JUST AM MISSING THE POINT OF, HEY, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE IT.

WE JUST DON'T WANT THEM ANY CLOSER THAN 500 FEET.

SO I DON'T QUITE SEE THE SAME LEGAL ARGUMENT THAT I SAW WHEN WITH OUR OLD ORDINANCE, WHICH PRETTY MUCH ALLOWED THEM, DIDN'T ALLOW THEM BECAUSE OF OUR STANDARDS.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I, IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME OUT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OKAY.

AND I THINK BEFORE, THEY DON'T EVEN ALLOW THE WEDNESDAY SHOW, BUT NOT DUE TO THE FEDERAL OR THE SOUTH TOWEL.

A DEAL ALLOWED THEM TO COME IN TWO HOURS DIDN'T SHOW.

NOW WE TRY TO PUT SOMETHING OF DEFENSE THAT WE ARE TIED TO.

IT'S JUST THAT YOU SAY WITH TRICK THAT I THINK THE CONCERN BASICALLY IS OKAY, IF THE, CAN WE GO FIND IT? I AGREE WITH YOU.

I WON'T FIND IT, BUT WE THE DEFENSE.

OKAY.

AND ABOUT 252 I, WE GET CHALLENGED BY, BY THE, UH, OKAY.

OH, THOSE WIRELESS CARRIERS.

SO THIS IS A CONCERN AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU CALL IT A MACE OUT.

THEY, THEY DO FIRE.

ANDREW, WHY CAN'T WE DO A FIRE ENGINE? SO MAYBE TONY CAN ANSWER.

OKAY.

WHAT KIND OF REMEDY WE HAVE.

YEAH, I MET MR MAYOR.

THAT ADVICE WE PROVIDED WAS TO TRY AND REDUCE THE LIABILITY.

OF COURSE COUNSEL CAN INCREASE THAT AMOUNT.

IT'S UP.

IT'S UP TO YOU.

WE CAN LOOK AT THIS FURTHER.

THIS IS FIRST READING AND IF AND IF, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO BEYOND 50, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN SUPPORT THAT.

YEAH.

I'M TRYING TO SHOW WHY IT INCREASES THE LIABILITY.

OUR ORDINANCE BEFORE BASICALLY WAS AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T ALLOW THEM PERIOD BECAUSE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.

NOW WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO ALLOW THEM AND IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES OR FEDERAL LAW THAT SAYS WE CAN'T SAY,

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OKAY, WE DON'T WANT 50,000 OF THESE IN OUR CITY, SO WE WANT TO LIMIT THEM TO, YOU KNOW, EVERY 500 FEET.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE ON EVERY LAMP POST IN THE CITY OR I MEAN, WHERE IS LIABILITY COMING IN HERE BY SAYING WE DON'T WANT THEM MORE THAN EVERY 500 FEET VERSUS THE TWO 50.

BUT THIS IS, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

SO DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

SO I THINK THAT, UM, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN FULLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT LET ME, LET ME, LET ME RESPOND IN THIS WAY THAT THE FEDERAL LAW IS KIND OF TAKEN THE OFFICE AFTER THAT.

MS MR MAYOR, UH, BARREN BATON, THE HOUSING WHO APPROVED AND HELPED DRAFT THIS, UH, ORDINANCE WAS UNAVAILABLE TONIGHT.

WE CAN HAVE HIM FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND WE'LL GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU THEN OR IN BETWEEN THAT TIME.

WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH AN ANSWER AS TO THE BASIS OF THAT ADVICE I WOULD LIKE AND I'LL DEFER BACK AND I'LL, I'LL DEFER BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

BUT MR MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR DIRECTOR ANDERSON COMMENTS ON THE, ON THAT ISSUE THOUGH, JEFF.

YEAH, I AGREE.

I THINK, I THINK WE NEED, UH, WE NEED A, UH, ATTORNEY.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY UNDERSTAND THE LAW TO SEE CAN WE DO FIND YOUR FEES.

SO, UM, I THINK THESE ARE THE CONCERN, UH, TO ALL THE, RATHER THAN THAT WE DO NOT WANT, OKAY FINE MEDIA AND THEY'LL FOLD THE CELL TOWER IN.

OH, THE CORNER OF, IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA.

I THINK THIS IS A COMPLETELY SCARED THE RESIDENT AND THE, WE TRY TO SEE HOW WE CAN, TO BE FAIR, OKAY.

BY THE FEDERAL LAW THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THEM TO BE INTO OUR INNOVATIVE BY THE SAME TIME.

BUT SOMETIME WE NEED A PROFESSION.

A PROFESSION, NO.

OKAY.

THAT UH, TONY, THEY UNDERSTAND OTHER REMEDIES.

OKAY.

AND SO TO US, SO IF YOU'VE GOT, I ANSWER THE WHY WE CANNOT DO A FINE JOB OF PEOPLE WALK THE REMEDY THAT WE MAY BE HAVE TO POSTPONE TO A NEXT MEETING WHEN THE ATTORNEY THAT CAN KEEP UP WITH THE ANSWER SO WE CAN MAKE A RIGHT DECISION.

WE DO NOT WANT THE CT GOING TO THE POTENTIAL REMEDY.

BY THE SAME TIME, WE DO NOT WANT JUST HASTILY, JUST APPROVE IT.

I KNOW WE LOVE TO KNOW WHAT MORE IN DETAIL.

SO I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY SEE A SECOND WAY TO DO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A, THIS IS JESSICA SHOEMAKER.

UM, I BELIEVE WE CAN APPROVE IT FOR FIRST READING AND EVEN, UH, MAKE THE SUGGESTED CHANGE AND OUR ANSWER IN BETWEEN AND EITHER WHEN WE HAVE IT UP FOR SECOND READING, UH, LEAVE IT AT THE 500 AS SUGGESTED FROM FIRST READING OR AMENDED TO THE TWO BACK TO THE TWO 50.

YES.

MISS AMERICA AND PLUS LET'S HAVE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.

AND THEN ONCE WE CLOSED ALL THE COMMENTS WE CAN, YOU GUYS CAN DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS.

IT IS FIRST READING.

WE WILL HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU AND IF SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND READING, THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE YOUR FIRST READING AGAIN.

OKAY.

UH, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WE HAVE TO MOVE ON, BUT OTHERWISE WE CAN CONTINUE TO DRAG OVER HERE.

OKAY.

MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY.

AND THEN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE OTHER QUESTION, NO QUESTION.

NO QUESTION.

OKAY.

I THINK I'M SPEAKING TO, I THINK EVERYBODY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WE GOT IN HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS THING.

BUT AGAIN, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT NEED, THAT ATTORNEY COULD GIVE US SOME KIND OF, UH, UH, ANSWER THAT WE CAN PROTECT ALL THE CT.

SO IN THAT WAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO, OKAY.

A PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

DID CLOSE, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER WE GOT INTO THIS ISSUE? GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

THIS IS LISA SHERRICK, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK.

YOU RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MR. PAUL ALBRIGHTON.

UM, AND THAT LETTER WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES.

WE ALSO HAVE A CALLER, MR. MICHAEL FOR RARE, WHO IS STANDING BY WHO WISHES TO AT THE, UH, REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, MAYBE TO CALL IT.

MAYBE WE SHOULD THAT THEY CALL IT A COINCIDENCE.

I HAVE HIM ON THE LINE ALREADY, MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO, UM, THAT HE'S BIG.

HE'S A, HE'S A AGAINST, HE IS OPPOSED OR HE IS PROSE.

WHICH ONE? UM, WHY IS THAT HIS POSITION? I'M A, HE'S FROM VERIZON.

MR MAYOR, I'M GOING TO PUT HIM ON THE LINE ONE MOMENT.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

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OKAY, THANK YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? PAUL? GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO IMPART SOME COMMENTS, UH, DURING THIS SORT OF FUN ORTHODOX TIME.

UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS OF STAFF.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A HIGHLY REGULATED AND TECHNICAL, UH, CHALLENGING LANDSCAPE, UH, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE HERE IN, IN DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE, UM, AS A REPRESENTATIVE, UH, FOURTH HORIZON.

UM, I WOULD ASK THAT THIS TIME, I WOULD STRONGLY REQUEST THAT THIS COUNCIL DEFER TAKING ACTION ON THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE.

UM, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I, I WOULD, I WOULD DEFER TO MY COUNSEL OF LETTER AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE LEGAL, UH, CHALLENGES, ISSUES THAT ARE PRESENTED BY THE DRAFT ORDINANCE HAS AS RED.

UM, MORE MOREOVER, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND, AND IT APPEARS FROM, FROM LISTENING TO A LOT OF THE ANSWERS THAT WERE OFFERED THAT THE INDIVIDUAL CARRIERS THEMSELVES, UH, WERE NOT CONSULTED.

AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY, THIS IS THE CITY'S PREROGATIVE.

THAT'S JUST THE CITY'S ORDINANCE.

UM, BUT I THINK WHEN THESE, WHEN THESE ORDINANCES ARE DRAFTED IN A VACUUM AND WITHOUT INPUT BY CARRIERS, IT IS REALLY CHALLENGING TO BE ABLE TO MANEUVER THROUGH, UH, WHAT IS TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE, UM, WITHOUT HAVING DIRECT INPUT FROM CARRIERS.

AND I, AND I'LL, I'LL DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN CHARACTERS AND CROWN CASTLE.

CROWN CASTLE IS NOT A CARRIER.

THEY ARE A LANDLORD.

THEY ARE, THEY BUILD ON SPECULATION.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WITH LIFE TO DEPLOY AND THEY BUILD AS BIG AS POSSIBLE TO INVITE AS MANY TENANTS TO THEIR FACILITY.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE BEST PLACE FOR PRIMARY INFORMATION TO, TO DESIGN OR ARCHITECT THIS TYPE OF AN ORDINANCE.

UM, SECONDLY, I THINK THE MOST BENEFICIAL, UH, FORWARD, UH, WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND I HAVE DONE THIS IN DOZENS OF MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS BEEN CUSTOMER DROP THE ORDER THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY DEPLOYING YET AND TO THE, TO THE PLEASURE OF BOTH PARTIES.

UM, IT'S TOO OLD SOMETHING OF A STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED US BY FOLKS HAVE A DYESS TODAY.

HE ANSWERED SUCCINCTLY AND ACCURATELY BY THE CARRIERS THEMSELVES.

UM, THERE WERE NO, IN MANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS WE HAVE PUBLICLY HELD WORKSHOPS, HAS DISCUSSED THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE OF THE, OF THE ORDINANCE THEMSELVES.

UM, THE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE A SEPARATE ISSUE.

AND I KNOW THIS, I KNOW THAT THE STAFF HAS ALLUDED TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY REVISITING THOSE.

UM, CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.

BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS IT'S REALLY EXCITING AND SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITHIN THE ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY DRAFTED DO CERTAINLY POSE AN UNDULY RESTRICTIVE BURDEN, UH, AND, AND WHAT IS IT EFFECTIVELY PROHIBIT OUR DEPLOYMENTS IN MANY AREAS.

SPECIFICALLY IF YOU JUST TAKE US AS A ONE OFF EXAMPLE, THE RESIDENTIAL SETTING UP REQUIREMENTS OF A HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

IF YOU TAKE A QUICK GLANCE AT YOUR ZONING MAP, THE LION'S SHARE OF THE ENTIRE MUNICIPALITY IS GOING TO BE PRECLUDED GOING TO PRECLUDE US FROM DEPLOYING THERE.

AND I, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT AESTHETICS.

WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT EFFECTS.

WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WISH TO DEPLOY ANYTHING THAT IS UNSIGHTLY OR OTHERWISE A CLUTTER OR A HAMPER.

THE AESTHETIC IDEAL OF WHAT'S CONVENIENT AND IS OUR IMPERATIVE TO BE A COOPERATIVE PARTNER.

AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO BE ABLE TO, HE CANDIDLY AND UNDERSTAND, EXPLAIN THE TECHNICAL CHALLENGES THAT THAT MAY NOT BE SEEING FROM STRICTLY A LEGAL BACKSTOP OR A LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE PERSPECTIVE.

AND I SAY THAT AS A FORMER ATTORNEY, I JUST, THIS IS A HIGHLY TECHNICAL AND DYNAMIC DESIGN THAT HAS TO MEET SORT OF DEFINITELY THREADING A NEEDLE.

AND WE USED TO DO THAT COOPERATIVELY WITH GOOD SIGHTING, UH, IN COOPERATION WITH STAFF.

UM, THE REQUIREMENTS, THE BURDENS ON STAFF WITH THE CURRENT FEDERAL REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT ARE, ARE CHALLENGING.

UH, AND IT'S, IT'S OUR AIM TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER WITH STAFF TO IN THAT END AND THAT AIM.

UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WOULD, WE WOULD REQUEST THE DEFERRED ACTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH STUFF,

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UH, UH, SIT DOWN WITH ESSENTIALLY COUNSEL TO GO OVER A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, THE ANSWERED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS OFFERED THIS EVENING.

UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ACC MAY OFFER A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT AND ON DOES NOT.

UM, I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THESE DESIGN OFFERED AS AN EXAMPLE, AS AN EXEMPLAR FOR, UH, FOR THE, THE DISCRETIONARY PROCESS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULDN'T BE LOOKING TO DEPLOY THAT HAD EVERY DALE, IF I MAY, MR MAYOR, THAT'S FIVE MINUTES.

HEY.

HI PAUL.

SO PAUL, PAUL, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

UM, AGAIN, SUSAN CITY CLUB, TALK ABOUT THE FIVE MINUTES, BUT, BUT OKAY.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY.

YOU BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, THE CT, SHE'LL HAVE SOME INPUT WITH OR SOME OTHER CARRIER SO YOU CAN HAVE SOME INPUT AND THE, YOU ARE WAITING TO DO THE WORKSHOP TOO SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY ALL THIS COMPLICATED.

OKAY.

HIGH-TECH THING.

SO, SO WE CAN BE EDUCATED.

OKAY.

AND UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

WHY IS OUR STEM FOR THE AESTHETIC AND THE POSSIBLE, OKAY.

HOW TO PULL YOUR EQUIPMENT INTO OUR CT.

RIGHT.

THIS IS WHY YOU WOULD SAY, RIGHT.

YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU WENT OUT AGAINST THE CITY TO APPROVE THE THING AND THEY SEE YOU.

OKAY.

THE, YOU ARE THE ATTORNEY THAT YOU HAVE AN ISSUE KIND OF WITH OUR CT, WITH OUR CODE AND THIS, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT YOU PREFER TO KIND OF, OKAY.

WANT TO HAVE INPUT WITH ALL CDS STAFF AND THE CITY COUNCIL OR OUR RESIDENT.

AM I RIGHT? THIS IS WHY YOU ARE ALL YOUR SPEECHES ABOUT, AM I RIGHT MR MAYOR? HE'S HUNG UP.

YOU HANG UP.

OH, OKAY.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO, TO, TO DISCUSS WITH US.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WOULD YOU PLEASE? OKAY, SO WE CAN AT LEAST, YEAH.

I THINK ONE IS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING VERY SENSITIVE.

OKAY.

AND THEN HE COMING IN AND THEY HAVE A DEBT ISSUE WE CAN UNDERSTAND.

I WONDER, HOPEFULLY HE LISTENED TO, HEY PAUL.

PAUL BACK UP THE LINE.

WELL, ARE YOU THERE? SORRY, MY NAME IS MIKE .

I'M THE MUNICIPAL ENGAGEMENT PARTNER ON BEHALF OF HORIZON.

UM, I GOT A LETTER THAT WAS PENNED BY OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.

JUST A CLARIFICATION HERE.

WELL THIS IS AGAIN, AGAIN, I'M CONFUSED.

OKAY.

WE HAD THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, HE REPRESENT VERIZON.

HIS NAME IS PAUL.

OKAY.

AND UH, OKAY.

AFTER HE FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY.

I TRIED TO, OUR ATTORNEY CALLS IS, WAS NOT ON THE LINE.

I WAS A SPEAKER.

MY NAME IS MIKE AND I DO REPRESENT HORIZON A PARTNER WHO ADDRESSES ORDINANCES AND THE LIKE, UH, MIKE, MIKE, MIKE, MIKE, COULD YOU HOLD ON ONE SECOND? MIKE? MIKE, HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT MY SPEECH APP TO PAUL? HANG UP.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST MENTIONED? WE GOT IN? I KIND OF UNDERSTAND.

I TAKE YOUR PARDON? SO MY, OUR POSITION, UH, HORIZONS POSITION, UH, THAT I, THAT I AM CONVEYING AT THE JUNCTURE IS WE, WE DO NOT THE COURT, THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTLY WRITTEN, WE WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO, TO DEFER TAKING ACTION ON IT THIS EVENING.

UM, RE REDIRECT STAFF TO, TO CONSULT WITH.

AND, UH, AND UH, IT IS MIKE.

MIKE, MIKE, THIS IS MIKE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I, I, I'M, I ALREADY KNOW.

OKAY.

YOU'LL POSITION BECAUSE WE LISTENED TO PAUL, BUT WE JUST WANT TO HIM UNDERSTAND AND MY INTERPRETER, RIGHT ABOUT YOU GUYS POSITION YOUR POSITION IS YOU AGAINST WHILE WE ARE GOING TO REVEAL TONIGHT FOR OUR PLANNING.

OKAY.

DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

AND DO YOU PREFER YOU WOULD PREFER TO SIT DOWN WITH ALLAH? OKAY.

OKAY.

STAFF AND THAT YOU'VE BEEN ALL WITH DD COUNCIL OR EVEN OUR RESIDENT HAVE A WORKSHOP TO KIND OF PRESENT YOUR CASE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT, WHAT YOU ARE DESIGNED.

OKAY.

WELL THEN WE APPROVED THIS THING TONIGHT.

NO MATTER WHY THIS IS YOUR POSITION.

THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.

MR MAYOR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I JUST WANT TO, OKAY, WE WANT TO LISTEN.

OH, THE ANGLE SO WE CAN BRING BACK TO OUR DISCUSSION.

SO WE LISTENED TO YOU, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION AND THAT WE WILL ASK

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THIS.

OKAY.

I WANT STAFF REGARDING THE INPUT FROM THE CARRIER.

OKAY.

AND ABOUT WHAT KIND OF POSITION AND THE CT, I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY SENSITIVE ISSUE.

WE WANT.

WE WANT TECHNOLOGY.

BY THE SAME TIME, WE DO NOT WANT TO DESTROY OUR CT LOOK.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE AESTHETIC IS ACCEPTABLE BY OUR RESIDENT.

AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE EVERYBODY HAVE FOR THAT FIVE G SO THEY CAN GO TO ALL THE PLACES AND PLUS THIS IS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WALLACE TO HAVE LAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

WE ALL, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT BALL THAT WE TRIED TO FIND A BALANCE.

OKAY, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND ANY OTHER THING YOU WANT TO INPUT? WE, WE ALWAYS UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION.

YOU WANT TO HAVE A MORE INPUT SO IN THAT WAY SHARE WITH CT MRI.

THAT'S CORRECT.

MR MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.

OKAY.

LET ME GO BACK TO OUR MEETING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, APPRECIATE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY AND THEN CAN WE GO TO A NOD TO A SPEAKER AS SOON AS THEY TAKE A LOOK? YOU WANT TO READ THE EMAIL? WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT? LISA BEAR.

BEAR WITH US.

JUST ONE MOMENT.

JUST GIVE US A MOMENT.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK TO YOU.

I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS.

OKAY.

IF I REMEMBER YOU SAY YOU HAVE EMAILED AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE CALLING.

SO YOU RECEIVED THE LETTER ALREADY FROM VERIZON'S ATTORNEY.

SO BASICALLY YOU SENT THE DATA AGAINST, OKAY.

THE ALDEAN IS WE ARE TRYING TO DO TONIGHT.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

NOW WE GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR MAY, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

COULD I MAKE A COMMENT ON UH, THE VERIZON'S UH, INPUT? THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO GO AHEAD.

UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BRINGING UP THE A HUNDRED FOOT SEPARATION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE CODE NOW.

AND IF WE DON'T ADOPT THE CODE TO REPLACE IT, THEN WE STILL HAVE THE A HUNDRED FOOT.

THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THE A HUNDRED FOOT IS TO ADOPT THE NEW CODE.

SO I DO, I DO UNDERSTAND VERIZON'S CONCERN HERE AND I DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT I THINK YOU CAN DO BOTH.

YOU CAN ADOPT THE CODE AND THEN WE CAN WORK WITH THEM.

AND SEE IF WE HAVE TO UH, REVISE THAT CODE BASED ON WHATEVER WE FIND OUT FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THE SEVERAL PROVIDERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY ENCOURAGEMENT.

OUR CODE IS OUT OF, WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE RIGHT NOW WITH FEDERAL LAW.

WE NEED TO GET IN COMPLIANCE.

AS LONG AS WE'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

HORIZON MAY NOT BE HAPPY, BUT AT AND T MAY MAY BE LESS HAPPY.

I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH LIABILITIES THAT WOULD COME.

AND ALSO OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT ISN'T AVAILABLE THERE AND VETTING THE HOUSERS, HE LOOKED AT THE LETTER AND I DON'T THINK HE HAD ANY CONCERNS OR WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING A HEARING NOW.

SO I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH THIS AND THEN START WORKING WITH HORIZON AND PERHAPS SPRINT AND AT AND T AND OTHERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD ADVICE.

OKAY, VERY CLEAR.

OKAY.

WE, WE NEED TO CALL AMENDMENTS.

OKAY.

TO OKAY.

GO WITH THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO IN THAT WAY WE HAVE TO DEFENSE AND THAT DAN, WE WILL GO THROUGH LATER ON EACH, ALL THE CARRY BECAUSE WE HAVE A AT AND T, VERIZON, T-MOBILE AND APPLAUSE.

THE LANDLORD, THE CROWN CASTLE OR EITHER OTHER.

OKAY.

DEVELOPERS.

SO, SO WE NEED TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

AND I'LL JUST, ANY CONSOLE THAT STOP COMING OR ANY, ALL THE QUESTION ECHO HATS.

WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST? OKAY.

UH, OKAY.

WHO IS THE ONE THAT GO FIRST? GO AHEAD.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR MAYOR.

I LIKE WHAT JEFF HAD TO SAY.

I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WHILE STILL WORKING WITH VERIZON AND THE OTHER CARRIERS.

I DO LIKE WHAT MIKE WITH VERIZON HAD TO SAY AND I, LIKE I SAID, I'D WANT TO WORK WITH THEM THOUGH WITH THE LATEST TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES AND POSSIBILITIES ARE WHILE STILL KEEPING AESTHETICS AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THIS AND WORK WITH ALL THE CARRIERS TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO FOR ACHIEVING A HAPPY MEDIUM.

VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

UM, UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON PLEASE.

OH, THANK YOU.

MR MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, I, UH, I KINDA AGREE WITH MAYBE WHAT YOU, UH, THE MAYOR SAID AND MY COUNSELOR WHEN A SHOEMAKER SAYS IF WE START OUT IN FIVE FUNDING, YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE SECOND MEETING, A CHECK, A READING.

WE CAN ALWAYS DROP IT TO SUIT SYSTEMS. BUT I WOULD ALSO, UH, JOANNE KEPT SAYING ABOUT, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE AND THE STRESS OF ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, ON THE HOLD ON THE OTHER ONE.

IT CAN EITHER BE DONE BY THE PLANNING

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COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL.

I THINK IF THERE'S ANY VARIATION, I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR.

I THINK THE COUNCIL IS THE ONE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO OKAY.

IT, BECAUSE IF THEY WANNA START ANYTHING INSIDE OF IT OR THEY START LIKE THAT, THAT PICTURE SHOWS, I WOULD NEVER WANT THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK THE RESIDENTS WOULD EVER WANT THAT.

SO I THINK OF A DECISION LIKE THAT FROM IT.

AND THEN I JUST HAVE TO BE MADE UP TO THE COUNCIL.

SO YOU WON'T, YOU WANTED TO AMEND THE MOTION.

WE GOT THE, THIS UH, ISSUE REGARDING THE TELE COMMUNICATION.

YOU WANT THEM TO ADD THE 500 SEA BASIS WHEN I WAS 200 AND PLUS YOU WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE A FINAL SAY OR WE GOT THE ASEPTIC.

OKAY.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA OF THE NUMBER OF 15 AND THEN BEFORE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTION AND THE COMMENT, GO AHEAD.

UM, GO AHEAD.

I'M FINE WITH DOING IT ADMINISTRATIVELY AND THE FINAL DECISION NOT COMING TO THE COUNCIL.

UM, THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE STAFF WHO ARE EXPERTS IN HOW THESE THINGS ARE HANDLED AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PUT THE BOARD IN PLACE AND NOT MICROMANAGING DAY TO DAY.

UM, AND THEN WE ALREADY HAVE THE FALL BACK ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PEOPLE CAN APPEAL TO THE COUNCIL AND I THINK IT'S A FORKING TO KEEP SAYING LINES IN THE SAND SO THAT A CHAIN CAN BE FOLLOWED IF THERE'S ANY DISCREPANCY OR ISSUES.

AND SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PUT THE 500 FEET IN INSTEAD OF THE TWO 50, UM, UNTIL WE KNOW IF OR WE CAN OR NOT TO DO THAT.

BUT I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING EVERYTHING COME UP TO THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

SO BASICALLY WE HAVE AMENDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON REGARDING THE FINE JET AND PLAZA.

OKAY.

EVERYTHING HAS TO GO BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO THE FINAL VOTE.

OKAY.

AND THEN, OKAY.

THIS IS A LOWEST JOHNSON AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

TONY.

OKAY.

BY THE WAY, BEFORE I MOVE ON, I WANTED TO CHECK WITH ALL THE CITY COUNCIL A COMMON OR ANY QUESTION.

OKAY.

I WILL MAIL PROTEIN OR, OKAY.

SO THEN I SEE, I KNOW.

NO, IF NOT, I WILL.

I WILL SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, JOHNSON REGARDING THE ISSUE, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING, UH, BECAUSE LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH THE ALL'S OKAY AND THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SPEND TOWNSEL MONEY AND THE TO APPEAL TO US AND CREATE A HARDSHIP AND BURDEN THAT THIS IS ALL A JOB WE GET ELECTED.

OKAY.

WE NEED TO TAKE THE CONSEQUENCES.

WE GOT THE EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENT JOHNSON.

OKAY.

UH, COMPLIMENT JOHNSON.

WE GOT INTO AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE A FIND YOUR FEET AND PLUS OKAY.

WITH A MUTATION.

OKAY.

AND THE REQUIREMENTS.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? IF EVERYTHING HAD TO BEEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL AUTOMATICALLY BY, AM I RIGHT? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? THIS IS WHY YOU AMENDMENT.

YEAH.

YEAH, THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A FIRST, I HAVE A SECOND AND CD ATTORNEY.

MY RIGHTS SHALL WE MOVE ON? UH, OKAY.

UH, THE JOHNSON, UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, UH, MOTION AND THAT WE'VE DONE WITH AMENDED MOTION OFF OF THE FINES OF FEE AND UH, ADMINISTRATION.

OKAY.

USE AND WENT TO CITY COUNCIL.

FINAL DECISION.

MY WIFE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

LET'S SEE.

CAN I, YEAH.

CAN I CLARIFY REAL QUICKLY THAT, GO AHEAD.

COUNSEL.

COUNSEL WILL HAVE THE FINAL DECISION, BUT WILL IT GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL? THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW IT WORKS AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

IT GOES TO PLANNING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS MY TIME.

YEAH.

OKAY.

LOTS OF TIME.

OKAY.

THE THING IS WHEN THEY APPROVE, OKAY.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO APPEAR AND THEN THE GATEWAY IS THEY HAVE TO SPEND MONEY.

TONS OF MONEY CAN NOT BE, WE'D THUMB AND THEN WE HAD TO GO STEAL, GO TO THE CONSOLE.

OKAY.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, OKAY, WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS LET THE ONES SAY THE RESIDENT ABOUT THOSE.

OKAY.

WASTE OF MONEY.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE CAN GO OKAY.

TO THE COUNCIL DECISION PAVE ALWAYS THIS SENSITIVE ISSUE.

AM I RIGHT? OKAY.

MAYBE.

MAYBE.

THAT'D BE FINE.

IF THAT'S THE MOTION, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

THAT WILL BE OKAY.

THERE'S A, OKAY.

OKAY.

MR. JOHNSON, YOUR MOTION? YEAH, THAT'S IT.

THAT THIS IS THE MOTION,

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SO CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL AND THAT, OKAY.

MR TONY, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M CONFUSED.

SO INSTEAD OF THINGS GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY'RE GOING TO COME DIRECTLY TO US INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF FIRST, WHO GIVES US A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE EITHER SAY YES OR NO ONE.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW? AND THEN MAYBE TONY, YOU'VE BEEN KIND OF A, OKAY.

EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THE PROPER PROCEDURE WE CAN CLARIFY.

OKAY.

ON THIS.

OKAY.

BASICALLY WHEN WE HAVE, LET'S SAY VERIZON, OKAY.

OR THEY SAY MOBILE, COMCAST WANT TO APPLY AND THEN WE'LL GO TO A PLANNING.

OKAY.

A PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL BASICALLY PULL ON THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THIS AND THAT COMPLY WITH, OKAY.

ALL WHAT REQUIREMENT.

OKAY.

AND THEN SHOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, MAYBE I NEED TO SEND, YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION OR TONY.

YES, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

SO THE SYSTEM THAT IS, UH, WE ARE, THAT IS BASICALLY SET UP BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP HERE IN OUR CODE IS, UH, IS, IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN.

THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

IF YOU DO THOSE THINGS THAT ARE SHOWN AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, YOU ARE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

THERE WAS NO NOTIFICATION.

IT'S JUST APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF.

IF YOU DO NOT DO THOSE THINGS AND YOU DO THE THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE ON THE DISCRETIONARY VIEW, THEN AS A DISCRETIONARY VIEW IN THE WAY THAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING IT, IT WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO COUNSEL.

IT WOULDN'T GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL IF THEY DIDN'T MEET THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW CRITERIA.

IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THAT'S IT.

IF I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, I HAD GONE TO THEIR PAYING COMMISSION AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OR WHAT THEY COME FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

BUT IF THEY WANT TO VARY IT FROM THAT, I THINK THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD.

I THINK I'M CLEAR WITH WHAT, UH, MR ANDERSON'S EXPLANATION.

BASICALLY EVERYTHING MATCHING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION REQUIREMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO US.

IT'S ALREADY APPROVED BECAUSE THIS IS WHY THE REQUIREMENT THAT THAT TAKE EVERYTHING AND OKAY, THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, THIS IS WHAT FEDERAL COVER IN THE WALLS TO DO IT.

ANYTHING OUT OF THIS THING.

THEN THEY MUST GO TO THE REVIEW.

OKAY.

AND THIS THING WAS TRIED TO GET AN ADDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

OKAY.

AND IT GOES THROUGH THE, WHAT MR TALKING ABOUT IS WHY THEY DIDN'T CALL THE PLANNING GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THE FINAL SAY.

AM I RIGHT? OKAY.

QUESTION.

THIS IS THE MAYOR PRO TEM OPENS THE AUTO, UM, FOR THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE DOING ANY DISCRETION OR REVIEW TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY, EFFORT AND THAT'S WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS FOR.

SO SHOULDN'T IT GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN GO THROUGH IT AND THEN AFTER THEY DID GO BACK AND FORTH WITH ALL THEIR, UM, REVIEW AND CHANGES, THEN IT GOES TO US TO MAKE THE FINAL MR. ANDERSON, YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WHAT I UNDERSTAND SHARE THIS IS DIRECTOR.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS MAKING SURE I WASN'T ON MUTE.

THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

UM, THAT WHAT, UH, THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS DESCRIBING IS THE NORMAL PROCESS THAT WE UTILIZE.

RIGHT.

THE CODE SAYS STAFF LOOKS AT SOMETHING GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT CAN BE APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION CAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL SUCH AS THIS CODE AMENDMENT, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING NECESSARILY WRONG WITH JUST GOING STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.

IT'S A POLICY DECISION, BUT THAT THAT IS NOT THE NORM IN THE CODE.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

AND SO MR. JOHNSON, SO HOW DO YOU THINK, WILL YOU ACCEPT OKAY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE HER A MALE POTEN LET HER LOPEZ THEIR OBJECTION, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE NORMAL WAY? WELL, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT GOING THROUGH THE NORM GOING THROUGH THE NORMAL WAY, AS LONG AS IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

I MEAN, NO MATTER WHAT THE, UH, IF THE PAIN COMMISSION DECIDED, HEY, WHERE WE CAN ACCEPT THIS AND, BUT THAT SHOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY CASTLE WITHOUT ANY RESIDENTS APPEALING IT, HAVING TO PAY MONEY TO DO IT.

IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT YET, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

OKAY.

SO YEAH, THIS IS JESSICA AND THAT'S WHAT I'M BEEN TRYING TO SAY.

BASICALLY IT WILL FOLLOW THE NORMAL PROCEDURE, BUT INSTEAD OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKING THE DECISION THERE, BY THAT I HAVE THE RESIDENTS HAVING TO APPEAL IT, IT WILL COME US AS A RECOMMENDATION.

THEREFORE, WE WILL HAVE ALL THE BACKGROUND

[01:35:01]

AS MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, LOPEZ V AUTO STATED WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THERE FOR, WHICH IS THE TECHNICAL TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON.

SO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION ONCE IT GETS TO THE COUNCIL LEVEL FOR US TO EITHER APPROVE OR NOT.

SO YOU ARE TAKING OUT THE PRESIDENT, BUT YOU'RE ALSO PUTTING IN LEAVING THE STEPPED IN PLACE THAT IS NECESSARY FOR OUR TECHNICAL OR YOU AND KNOW HOW GOT IT.

OKAY.

UH, I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT.

I THINK A WOMAN TO MAKE IT MAKE A POINT IS STILL GO TO A NORMAL PROCEDURES DEAL.

LET THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE THING ABOUT WHEN THEY DO A RECOMMENDATION, THEN WE, WE'LL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THE FINAL APPROVAL.

AM I RIGHT? THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE SUGGESTION.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I'M IN MY, UH, MORRISON THEN.

UH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE CUSTOMER I KNOW WITH THE 500 FEET.

YEAH.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

SO THE 500 FEET WILL BE THE AMENDMENT OKAY.

ON THIS AGENDA OR THIS.

OKAY.

TELE COMMUNICATION WIRELESS.

OKAY.

SO THE ATTENTION BY 200 FEET, 250 FEET TO FIND YOUR FEET.

AND, UH, REGARDING THE REVIEW WE GOT IN THE DISCRIMINATION THAT WE SHOULD KNOW THAT REALLY WE VIEW WILL BE A DUMP BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GO BACK.

OKAY.

AND THEY'LL REVIEW IT.

OKAY.

AND DAN FOLKS, THE CD COUNCIL TO GET A FINAL APPROVAL AND THE DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

YEAH.

OKAY.

LET ME SAY JOHNSON MOTION.

OKAY.

ON THAT.

AND I'M GOING TO, WE NEED TO CALL UP.

OKAY TO EAT THE THING AGAIN.

THE FIRST MEETING EMOTION IS UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

SO YOU ARE JUST STILL RIGHT STILL.

YOU NEED TO READ IT AGAIN IF NUMB.

I'M GOING TO SECOND IT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE.

HOW CAN I COST ALLANA? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHOEMAKER PRO 10 LOPEZ.

BEATO AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

AT THE MOTION WAS AMENDMENT FIVE.

WE MOVED TO THE NEXT AGENDA.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST READING WE APPROVED.

SO WE'LL BRING BACK NEXT MEETING.

MR MAYOR, THIS IS ASSISTANT CITY CLERK.

I NEED TO READ THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO YOU REMEMBER I ASKED YOU TO READ IT.

NOW YOU DON'T WANT TO READ NOW YOU WANT ME TO READ AGAIN PLEASE? YES.

TITLE OF ORDINANCE 24 70 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA APPROVING CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 16 DASH ZERO THREE RELATED TO WIRELESS COMMUNITY RELATED TO WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THAT WAS THE AMENDMENT 200 FEET, 50 FEET TO FIND YOUR FEET, RIGHT.

SO, OKAY.

DO YOU WAIT, DO WE NEED TO CAST A BOW AGAIN OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? NO, WE'RE OKAY MAN.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

SO NOW WE MOVE TO AGENDA NUMBER 16 OKAY.

OKAY.

NUMBER 16 CONSIDERATION OF THE COLA AMENDMENT.

20 DASH ZERO TWO COMMERCIAL THEN USE AND EXTEND IS OKAY.

THE MATTER IS SET FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, AMENDED TO CHAPTER 26 THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODES RELATED TO THE COMMERCIAL USE AND EXTEND.

IF SOMEBODY'S MEAL, PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN FINISH OUR MEETING.

OKAY.

WITH THIS AS THE NCD CODE VERIFY THE PROPER LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN.

TERRIFIED MAN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND AT THIS TIME I SHOW OPEN THE POPPING HEARING OCO AMENDMENT NUMBER DALE WILL FIRST BE A PRESENTATION OF THE STATUS REPORT.

THEN WE SHOW HE'LL FIND THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL.

DENZEL'S A POST IS A COMPANY TO SEE THE MANAGER.

WOULD YOU PLEASE? OKAY, KEEP ME IN THE LOOP.

I'M UP.

WE'RE UP.

LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON SO IT'S NOT EVEN EMPTY BACK BY AND OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO SEE THEM ON MOTHER'S DAY, BUT I MEAN WAS LIKE NOTHING.

MR MAYOR, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT INTERFERENCE IS, BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION FROM DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

OKAY.

AND I MISSED THE MANAGERS.

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OKAY.

CITY MANAGER KAMANI OKAY.

WHO WILL PRESENT A STEP REPORT.

OKAY.

I THINK THIS IS OUR DIRECT TO MR. ANDERSON.

I HEARD ABOUT YOU ARE GOING TO BE, YOU'RE GOING TO RETIRE TOMORROW, SO THIS IS STORIC MOMENT.

THIS WILL BE THE LAST PRESENTATION BY OUR DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

OH MY GOD.

WE WENT MISS YOU.

I'D BE WALKING WITH YOU FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AND I CAN NOT SAY MORE THAN YOU ARE.

JUST OUTSTANDING.

OKAY.

AND THE THERE.

OKAY.

HELPING TO CT.

SO THIS IS WHAT VIEW ALLOWS PRESENTATION FOR THE CT.

AND I KNOW TOMORROW YOU AS SAY YOU'RE GOING TO SELL TO THE OCEAN EVEN IN THIS PANDEMIC.

SO YOU MAY BE AT HOME.

OKAY.

AND WATCHING TV AND PLAY THE COMPUTER GAME.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO CALL, YOU'RE GOING TO CALL US THAT WE MEET.

I MISS YOU GUYS.

I WANT TO COME BACK.

PLEASE PRESENT THE OKAY, GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

UM, THIS IS A CODE AMENDMENT 2002.

IT'S UH, ABOUT COMMERCIAL LAND USE, USES AND STANDARDS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION INITIATED THE CODE AMENDMENT ON JANUARY 28TH AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF, LET'S SAY SESSION WAS HELD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 25TH.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 28TH AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

THE PURPOSE OF THE CODE AMENDMENT IS TO MODIFY THE LAND USE IS ALLOWED IN VARIOUS NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONES TO ALLOW GREATER FLEXIBILITY FOR BUSINESSES AND LANDLORDS TO REVISE STANDARDS FOR SCREEN WALLS AND COMMERCIAL AREAS.

THOSE ARE AREAS BETWEEN PARKING AREAS AND STREETS ARE WALLS BETWEEN PARKING AREAS AND STREETS TO REVISE THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS IN THE ZONE AND TO REVISE THIS SEPARATION STANDARD OF TATTOOING USES AND RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LAND USE MAP MATRIX OR THE THE LAND USE CHANGES FIRST.

SO WE ARE SUGGESTING ADDING IN THE OFFICE PROFESSIONALS ZONE, THE FOLLOWING USES CATERING SERVICES, DELICATESSENS ICE CREAM STORES, TOOTING FACILITIES AND POSTAL SERVICES AND ADDING AS A CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED USE VETERINARY HOSPITALS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ZONE.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING CHANGING FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE TO A PERMITTED USE OF THE USE OF POSTAL SERVICES.

AND THEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND MEDIUM COMMERCIAL ZONE, WE'RE SUGGESTING ADDING A CONDITIONAL USE OF INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY AND THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION IN THE, IN THE CODE THAT'S A SEPARATE MATRIX.

IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING.

WE WERE WANTING TO ADD IT SO THAT IT'S ALL ONE PLACE.

ALL THE USES ARE LISTED IN ONE PLACE.

SO WE BE RELOCATING THOSE USES FROM THIS MATRIX, WHICH WE'RE DELETING.

THOSE USES WOULD BE A COFFEE AND SNACK SHOP, UH, PHARMACIES AND BARBER AND BEAUTY SHOPS.

WE ARE CHANGED.

WHERE ARE SUGGESTING THREE CHANGES TO THE BELLMAN STANDARDS? THE FIRST BEING A CHANGE TO A SCREENING.

RIGHT NOW OUR CODE REQUIRES A 36 INCH HIGH BLOCK WALL TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE OUTSIDE AREA PARKING AREAS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO PUBLIC STREETS AND THAT HAS PRESENTED SOME ISSUES AND SOME GRAFFITI MAGNET ISSUES.

SO WE ARE SUGGESTING TO CHANGE THAT TO REQUIRING PARKING AREAS TO BE SCREENED FROM PUBLIC STREETS.

USING MEANS SUCH AS LAND CONTOURING, LOW-PROFILE WALLS, SHRUB PLANTINGS, OR SIMILAR SCREENS OR COMBINATION.

THEY'RE OFF.

THE SECOND ONE IS ABOUT LANDSCAPING IN THE ZONE, WHICH IS OUR MANUFACTURING ZONE, WHICH IS IN OUR FAR NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE CITY.

RIGHT NOW THE CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 8% OF A LOT TO BE LANDSCAPED, WHICH IS THE SAME WITH ANY OTHER NONRESIDENTIAL ZONE.

COMMERCIAL ZONES OF ALL TYPES HAVE THE SAME, BUT YOU MAY BE AWARE IF YOU GO TO INDUSTRIAL AREAS, MOST OF THE REAR PORTION OF A LOT IS NOT AVAILABLE OR VISIBLE FROM, FROM TO THE PUBLIC.

SO WE'RE SUGGESTING TO CHANGE THAT TO REQUIRING A MINIMUM OF 4% WITH AT LEAST 75% OF THAT LANDSCAPING BEING WITHIN 50 FEET OF THE PUBLIC STREET.

SO YOU'D HAVE LESS LANDSCAPING, BUT ALL THE LANDSCAPING WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET AND THEREFORE MORE LIKELY TO BE MAINTAINED OVER TIME.

AND THEN LAST TATTOOING, RIGHT NOW WE REQUIRE THE TATTOOING USES BE SEPARATED BY 300 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES OR ZONES.

WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT'D BE CHANGED TO REQUIRING A 300 FOOT SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL USES, BUT NOT FROM RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

AND SAFRA CUMMINS AT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE CODE AMENDMENT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT AS WELL.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY FINAL STAFF PRESENTATION.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW ACT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION FOR ALL OF THE DIRECTORS? IT WE TIRING.

I GAVE YOU THE TOP QUESTION.

[01:45:02]

NONE.

NO QUESTION.

OH, OKAY.

THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UH, AND SO MS SANDRA SAID, WHY IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS CHANGE TO BE, UH, THE REASON IS WE ALREADY AND I THINK FOUR AND A HALF, FOUR, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE HAVE A GENERAL PLAN THAT BY THE CT FUTURE AND ALL WITH DIRECTION ABOUT HO I WILL SEE IF YOU LOOK LIKE IN MOST IMPORTANT NC I WILL COMMERCIALS ONLY SO AND THAT INCLUDING THE THE OFFICE.

OKAY.

AND AREA.

SO RIGHT NOW SOUND LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO ADD A UI EXIT.

TINA, YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS OFFICE USE WIDE THAN JUST OFFICE ONLY.

SO, AND IS THAT A MATCH IS I'LL DO A CT AND I UNDERSTAND ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW DUE TO OUR COLON AND DAMAGE AND THE OTHER BUSINESS SUFFERING WITH THIS HELP FOR OUR FUTURE, FOR THE BUSINESS COMING BACK AND DUE TO A LITTLE BIT LOOSE ON THIS REQUIREMENT ON THIS, UH, CODE IN HIS OLD NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WHY IS BEHIND FOR THIS CHANGE? UH, MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO US AND HOW IT'S A BENEFIT FOR ALL A CT TO ADOPT THIS WHILE THEN OFFICE ONLY THEN NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF MIX.

USE IT.

GO AHEAD.

MR. ANDERSON.

YES.

UH, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON AND I THINK YOU'VE EXPLAINED THAT PRETTY WELL.

UH, MAYOR WOO, THE UM, THE STATE OF, UH, COMMERCIAL FLOOR AREAS IS, IS IN FLUX AND IT HAS BEEN FOR 20 YEARS OR SO.

A LOT OF THAT'S COMMERCIAL FLOOR RETAIL FLOOR AREA IS, YOU KNOW, THE DEMAND IS LOWERING BUT YOU SEE THE SAME THING WITH OFFICE.

SO, UM, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY A GREATER, AND AS, AS AS MAYOR WE WOULD DISCUSS, WE HAVE A GENERAL PLAN NOW THAT SORT OF, UH, TRIES TO MAKE THINGS MORE MIXED USE, TRIES TO BRING MORE USES TOGETHER AND INTO SIMILAR PLACES.

SO, UM, THAT IS KIND OF THE GENESIS FOR THIS TO TRY TO, UM, CONTINUE TO WITH FORETHOUGHT ALLOW USES.

THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.

THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS.

WE'VE DONE, I THINK THERE'S FIGHT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

THE, PROBABLY THE, MAYBE THE THIRD TIME WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS LOOKING AT USES AND SEEING MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD ADD INTO DIFFERENT ZONES TO ALLOW FOR GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN THAT THAT'S HELPFUL FOR BUSINESS, FOR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WANT TO MOVE OR OPEN A BUSINESS.

AND ALSO FOR LANDLORDS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR TENANTS TO HAVE A GREATER FLEXIBILITY OF USES AVAILABLE.

SO, SO BASICALLY, UH, YOUR IDEAS, UM, WITH THIS CHANGED, UM, FOR ALL THE CTE FOR THE OFFICE, UH, AREA TO KIND OF, UH, CAN HAVE A MORE OF A VARIETY OF THE DIFFERENT BUSINESS THAN JUST OFFICE ONLY IS THAT'S WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SO.

SO IN THAT WAY THE LANDLORD CAN KIND OF LEASE OUT THE PROPERTY AND SO, SO HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY.

FOR THE BUSINESS CAN CALL THE DARE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF, UH, UH, OKAY.

PIECE OF ACTION.

BUT WILL THAT KIND OF A SQUEEZE OUT? OKAY.

I'LL OUTSIDE ON THAT BUILDING OF ALL THE BUSINESS WHERE LAB WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR ALL THE SAVANT IN BUSINESS.

THEY MAY BE DUE TO SOMEBODY INSIDE THE OFFICE ALREADY DOING THE COFFEE SHOP, WHETHER IT BE A ISSUE OR ASKING THE STORE OR SOMETHING.

WELL A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

MOST OF THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS ARE ALREADY MADE BY LANDLORDS.

WE DON'T RESTRICT, YOU KNOW, IN A COMMERCIAL CENTER, WE DON'T RESTRICT WHETHER IT'S AN ICE CREAM SHOP OR A FOR A LAUNDRY OR A DRY CLEANER.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF A LANDLORD WANTED TO ALLOW FREE BUSINESSES OF, OF DRY CLEANERS TO OPEN AND SHOPPING CENTER, THEY'RE PERFECTLY ABLE TO DO THAT AND THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY SAY IN THAT CAUSE THEY'RE PERMITTED USES IT SO THAT WE KIND OF LEAVE TO THE MARKET TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

UH, OUR, OUR, OUR THINKING HERE IS THAT WE JUST WANT TO ALLOW THE GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN USES, UH, AGAIN FOR BUSINESSES AND LANDLORDS.

SO BASICALLY OFFICE BUILDING, YOU WANT TO KIND OF OPEN IT UP.

OKAY.

THE MORE OF A VARIETY OF BUSINESS CAN OPERATE.

WHY DIDN'T JUST OFFICE ONLY THAT IS WHAT THIS YOUR KIND OF IDEA.

SO GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

AND, AND ALTHOUGH THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION? OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

NO QUESTION.

OKAY.

THEN WE MOVE INTO A PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

AND AS IF AS HE COULD, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT RECEIPT? OKAY.

NONE.

OKAY.

THEN WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN WE WENT BACK TO UH, THE CITY COUNCIL COMMENT OR QUESTION AGAIN.

AND UH, ANY OTHER COMMENT YOU HAVE, UH, YOU GUYS THINK IS A GREAT IDEA OR YOU THINK ABOUT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE SIGNATURE.

OKAY.

UH, ACT OF

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ALLAH.

WE POWERING A DIRECT TO OKAY.

FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO WHAT'S MAYOR PRO TEM? LET'S GO CAUSE I JUST WANNA YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SEEM MINUTE, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ABOUT THE WALLS AND SCREAMING, UM, TO CHANGING IT.

LOW PROFILE WALL SHRUB PLANTINGS AND SIMILAR SCREENS TO PREVENT GRAFFITI.

I KNOW THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE AND WE, AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THAT CAUSE IT SAVES OUR STAFF TIME FROM CLEANING THAT UP AND PREVENTING GRAFFITI AND OUR KIDNEY.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION THAT COME IN, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALMOST WHO GO FIRST.

OKAY.

I T I HEAR THAT A FEMALE.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

SO UM, SO YOU'LL BEAT EVERYBODY.

SO I'LL PUT SOME IN, SEE I KNOW.

MOVE THE MOTION.

WHO'S GOING TO SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, GO TO THE SECOND AND UH, UH, DO YOU NEED TO READ THE TITLE AGAIN? YES MA'AM.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

READ THAT TITLE.

GO AHEAD.

ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO FOUR SEVEN TWO IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA APPROVING CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO TWO CODE AMENDMENT RELATED TO COMMERCIAL, NON-RESIDENTIAL USES AND STANDARD.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

AND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COUNCILMAN CASTELLANO.

ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHOEMAKER.

I APPROACHED HIM, LOPEZ BEATO AIRBORNE.

I AM MOTION APPROVED, FIVE ZERO AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL IT DIRECT TO JOHNSON.

DUETTO AND TO SEND FOR US SERVICE FOR OUR CT FOR 20 YEARS OR MORE.

AND UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

AND TO HELP OUR CT AND THEN WE WANT TO WISH YOU ALL THE BEST FOR YOU RETIRING.

OKAY.

ON THE ULI NEW LIFE.

AND THEN WHEN YOU FEEL BOLD AND DON'T FORGET TO CALL US AGAIN SO WE CAN HAVE A OKAY.

YOU ADVICE.

OKAY.

Y'ALL ALL STANDING? UH, NO WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE, BUT ONCE UP.

ONE MORE TIME.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU AND NOW OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE UH, UH, CONSULT COMMON OR AB ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR OF COST.

WE DON'T HAVE B, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, WE CALL ANYTHING AT HOME.

OKAY.

SO, AND THE, ALL THE, UH, MAIL.

OKAY.

UH, MOTHER, MAY I OR ANY COMMON THAT'S A MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED A MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU.

UH, THANKS JEFF FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE, FOR OUR CITY AND UH, I JUST WANT TO WISH YOU A VERY HAPPY RETIREMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE LEAVING IN A GOOD TIME OR NOT.

YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU, BUT WE JUST WANT US TO SAY THANK YOU AND WE HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.

ANYBODY ELSE? JONATHAN? FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY KIND OF JACK.

YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOWN JEFF FOR A LONG TIME.

I KNEW HIM WHEN HE FIRST STARTED HERE.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CITY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

I REMEMBER HIM WHEN HE WAS WITH DOUG.

I'D HAVE TO HAVE A DARK SIDE.

STAN WAS, BUT JEFF DID A FABULOUS JOB THERE AND WE KNEW ALL ALONG WHEN DOUG RETIRED THAT JEFFERY CEPHEID IN AND NEVER MISSED A BEAT AND HE NEVER DID.

HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB THIS LAST 20 YEARS.

AND I WANTED TO THANK HIM SO VERY MUCH.

I WISH HIM A GREAT SUCCESS IN RETIREMENT.

AND I KNOW THAT HE THINKS RETIREMENT ISN'T REALLY A BIG THING, BUT YOU KNOW, THE FIRST FEW WEEKS OF SALT OFF, YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF, I NEED THIS TO DO SO.

I WISH YOU A LOT OF LECTURE.

AND I ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT'S THE RESIDUE.

NOW YOU SAY, FIGHT THIS.

THEY HOLD ME TO CAC.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 147 THAT'S BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS VIRUS.

THANK GOODNESS WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY INVESTED IN REST OF THE ARENA.

SO EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE AND HEALTHY AND TAKE CARE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND ANY, ANY PERSON, ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? OH YEAH.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO SAY GOODBYE TO JEFF ANDERSON AS WELL.

I'VE KNOWN JEFF SINCE 2013.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU TAUGHT ME AND EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY.

I WISH YOU THE BEST IN RETIREMENT AND WE'LL MISS YOU.

AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO MR J METER.

I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU AND THE GOMEZ FAMILY WHO WROTE IN ON, I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU GUYS AS WELL.

HAPPY CINCO DE MAYO, EVERYBODY AND HAPPY REOPENING FRIDAY TO ALL THE BUSINESSES ALLOWED TO OPEN.

ALRIGHT.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT GUYS.

PICK UP AND THINK IT WAS CONSOLE MINTED.

OKAY.

CASIANO ANY OTHERS? COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING IF NONE THEN UM, AGAIN, JEFF.

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OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND, UH, NOW I'M GOING TO REPRESENT MY DAUGHTER.

OKAY.

SHE LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU AS AN INTERN.

OKAY.

AND SHE TOLD, SHE TOLD ME YOU ARE OUTSTANDING TEACHERS.

OKAY.

I THINK YOU MIGHT BE A PROFESSOR IN SOME COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE ANOTHER KNOWLEDGE.

OKAY.

SO GOOD LUCK AND I HAVE A GOOD RETIREMENT AND WE WISH YOU THE BEST AND DON'T BE A STRANGER.

OKAY.

COME BACK TO SEE US AFTER PANDEMIC WHEN WE CAN SEE EACH OTHER.

OTHER THAN THAT, I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY, I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

THIS IS KIND OF VERY, VERY TOUGH TIMES, ESPECIALLY FOR SMALL BUSINESS AND THIS IS OKAY AND UP STRUGGLING AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE, I THINK THE LIE AT THE END OF TURNOVER, IT'S GRADUALLY KIND OF UH, COMING UP AND UH, WE ARE GOING TO HELP YOU.

OKAY.

AND THE CT WILL DO EVERYTHING TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESS AND TO HOPEFULLY BRING THE JOB BACK AND THE POINT OF NORMALCY TO OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT MOST IMPORTANT THING IS SAFE SAFETY.

YEAH.

WE'LL WANT TO, EVERYBODY'S SAFE STEEL, STAY HOME CHEER THE, OUR COUNTY STATE.

OKAY.

AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO KEEP US ALL THE GREEN LIGHT BECAUSE WE STILL MOANING ABOUT THE SITUATION.

WE WANT TO SEE THE FLAT.

OKAY.

AND THE SEEMS THE QUIZ AND THEN POSSIBLE LAYS THAT TIME.

OTHER THAN THAT, UH, I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY AND A MOTION TO A GYM.

YOU, I WANT TO CONTINUE.

NOBODY WANT TO MOVE DOWN.

OKAY.

I HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I SEE YOU.

OKAY.

NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

APPRECIATE NIGHT.