[Planning Commission on April 28, 2020]
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NOW, MR. ANDERSON, IF WE CAN HAVE THE OFFICIAL ROLL CALL PLEASE.
DIRECTOR ANDERSON AND I WILL CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER HING HERE.
COMMISSIONER HAWK HAS HERE, COMMISSIONER KENNEDY AND CHAIRMAN RED HOLES HERE.
NOW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE THE STAFF THAT'S AVAILABLE TONIGHT FOR THE MEETING.
SO WE DO HAVE SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT.
WE HAVE JOANNE BURNS, OUR PLANNING MANAGER.
WE HAVE IVF THIGH FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE MARK PERSICO, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
WE HAVE LISA SHERRICK, OUR CITY CLERK, AND WE HAVE A MOD ON, SORRY, WHO'S WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING? ARE YOU THERE? I'M ON NOW.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE FIVE STAFF MEMBERS AVAILABLE BESIDES MYSELF.
THEN WE WILL GO ON WITH UH, UH, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL, 1420 20.
THERE'S ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY CHANGES TO MAKE TO THOSE MINUTES HEARING NONE.
THOSE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.
AND THIS IS THE TIME WHEN ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER WITHIN THE SCOPE OF DUTIES ASSIGNED TO THE COMMISSION RELATING TO NOT AGENDIZED OR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS OTHER MATTERS INCLUDED ON THIS AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED WHEN THAT ITEM IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ALL OUR COMMUNICATIONS.
THE CHAIRPERSON MAY IMPOSE REASONABLE LIMITATIONS ON PUBLIC COMMENTS TO ASSURE AN ORDERLY AND TIMELY MEETING.
THE BROWN ACT LIMITS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS MEETING.
MAY BE AGENDIZED FOR A FUTURE MEETING OR REFERRED TO STAFF.
THE COMMISSION MAY ASK QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION IF DESIRED.
AT THIS TIME BY POLICY, THE COMMISSION OR ALL COMMUNICATIONS AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SOME, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, INTERESTED IN ORAL COMMUNICATION.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, TURN IT OVER TO, UH, OUR ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, LISA SHERRICK.
I HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT WAS EMAILED.
I WILL READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.
IS THIS THE MAY RESIDENT AFTER CPN WHO LIVED AT 1237 SOUTH VAN HORN AVENUE WEST COVINA NINE ONE SEVEN NINE ZERO SHE IS ASKING THE COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT SIGNS ON SIDEWALKS ADVISING THE PUBLIC WHO WALKED THEIR DOG TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PICKING UP THEIR DOG POOP.
IT SHOULD BE A FINE FOR NOT DOING SO.
THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE OF DOG POOP LATELY ON THE SIDEWALKS WHERE I WALK DAILY NEAR EDGE WOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL THROUGHOUT AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS DUE TO THE RECENT VIRUS VIRUS PANDEMIC, PEOPLE ARE WALKING THEIR DOGS MORE AND ARE NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE OR CONSIDERATE.
THEY SHOULD ALL CARRY DOGGY BAGS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THAT IS THE END OF THAT PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL NOW THROUGH THE CHAIR START CALLING RESIDENTS WHO WISH TO SPEAK AT THE MEETING.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE MR. ROBERT TORRES.
I NEED TO CALL HIM ONE MOMENT PLEASE.
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YES, SIR.HE'S ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, ISN'T HE? NO, I BELIEVE HE WANTED TO SPEAK ON HER OWN COMMUNICATION.
YEAH, I CANNOT HEAR HIM EITHER.
50 PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE ARE MAD AT YOU AND YOUR JOBS.
SO IT WAS AT THAT MOMENT THAT I UNDERSTAND WHY SO MANY PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS MAD AT JEFF.
IRONICALLY IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS GREAT AT WHAT HE DID.
AND AS A SIDE NOTE, JUST TODAY, I SAW JEFF ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE FIRST TIME AND FROM THE LOOKS OF IT, THE MULTICOLORED SHIRT, IT LOOKS LIKE SHE WAS READY TO RETIRE TWO MONTHS AGO.
SO, UM, BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, UH, IN A RESIDENT THAT WAS CLOSELY INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE CITY AND YOU INTERACTED WITH JEFF AUSTIN AND OBSERVING HOW HE WAS ALWAYS WILLING TO FIT TWO CONCERNS ON BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE AND MAKE A THOUGHTFUL RECOMMENDATION, REALLY SPOKE TO HIS INCREDIBLE PROFESSIONALISM AND HIS PASSION FOR HIS WORK.
SO JEFF, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENCE IN WESTERN, WE, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BIG VIRTUAL ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU'VE DONE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND CONGRATULATE YOU ON A WELDER RETIREMENT.
WE READY FOR YOU TO READ THE NEXT ONE? YES, I WILL CALL NEXT.
ARE YOU READY? I CAN START NOW.
CHAIRMAN, RED HOLTZ AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS IS LYDIA DOES OUR SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
YOU ALL KNOW ME AS THE PERSON WHO ATTENDS YOUR MEETINGS AND TYPES OF MINUTES.
I ASKED TO ADDRESS YOU THIS EVENING BECAUSE THIS MEETING WILL BE THE LAST JEFF ANDERSON OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND FORMER PLANNING DIRECTOR WILL ATTEND AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY.
I HAVE WORKED FOR JEFF FOR 19 YEARS AND ALMOST EIGHT MONTHS.
HE WAS HIRED ON SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2000 AS A SENIOR PLANNER.
HE WAS RECLASSIFIED TO PRINCIPAL PLANNER AND LATER BECAME THE PLANNING DIRECTOR IN 2018 HE WAS APPOINTED THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY VOMIT DIRECTOR.
I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING HIS COWORKER AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR MOST OF THAT TIME DURING HIS TIME HERE.
I'VE WATCHED HIM MENTOR NEW PLANNERS, ENCOURAGE PLANNING INTERNS AND HELP THEM LEARN WHAT PLANNING IS ABOUT.
I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WEST COVINA OFFERS ONE OF THE BEST INTERNSHIPS FOR PLANNING STUDENTS AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF JEFF.
HIS CALM DEMEANOR AND CONFIDENCE IN HIS COWORKERS IS SOMETHING WE ALL COME TO RELY ON ALONG THE WAY.
WE'VE ALSO MADE SOME PRETTY GOOD MEMORIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE DEPARTMENT'S ANNUAL SPRINKLING, BIRTHDAY LUNCHES, PLANNING THE DEPARTMENT'S HALLOWEEN THEME AND COSTUMES, CHRISTMAS PARTIES, AND THE OCCASIONAL IMPROMPTU SOCCER GAME IN THE HALLWAY OF OUR DEPARTMENT.
THEY MISS BITE EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY ME.
I WISH YOU WELL ON YOUR RETIREMENT AND HOPE YOU'LL COME TO VISIT IT ONCE IN A WHILE.
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THANK YOU.I THINK I SENSE A PATTERN HERE.
MR. MARTINEZ, ARE YOU READY? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION STAFF, UH, RON GARCIA CITY PINER FOR CITY OF BALDWIN PARK AND, UH, FORMER, UH, COWORKER OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, JESS, JUST WANTED TO WISH YOU A HAPPY RETIREMENT, WELL DESERVED.
UH, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, UH, WHAT A BLESSING IT'S BEEN TO HAVE WORKED WITH YOU FOR OVER 14 YEARS IN WEST COVINA.
UH, NOT ONLY AS A COWORKER, BUT, UH, A GOOD FRIEND.
UH, YOUR WORK IN WEST COVINA HAS MADE A LASTING IMPACT AND ONE THAT HAS CHANGED THE CITY FOR THE BETTER.
UH, WE'LL ALL REALLY MISS YOU.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR ALL OF US THAT I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU.
AND ONCE THIS CORONA VIRUS HAS PASSED US, UH, WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE WITH YOUR FAVORITE, UH, COSTCO CAKE AND, AND LITTLE CAESARS.
MR. GARCIA, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO READ ALSO? YEAH.
SO I'D LIKE TO READ SOMETHING FROM A KAISER, RON WALLA, UH, JEFF, CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU'RE LEAVING BEHIND A GREAT LEGACY IN WEST COVINA, GENERAL PLAN AND THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, UH, CODE ADOPTED DURING YOUR TENURE.
AND THIRDLY, UH, BIG SHOES TO FILL.
UH, YOUR LEGACY HAS ALSO, UH, INCLUDES THEIR TREE.
MANY STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE THE GOOD FUTURE TO WORK UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ARE NOW LEADING PLANNING OFFICES IN VARIOUS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CITIES.
UH, I'VE SEEN YOU, YOU'RE, YOU WORK HARD AND YOU WORK SMART DURING THE CITY'S TURBULENT, ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL PATH DURING TOUGH TIMES.
YOU KNOW, YOU KEPT YOUR FOCUS AND DELIVERED THE DESIRED OUTCOMES.
UH, YOUR ABSENCE WILL BE A BIG LOSS FOR WEST COVINA.
UH, BEST WISHES FOR YOUR NEXT CHAPTER.
UH, I'LL MISS YOU, BUT YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN.
KAISER RUNG WALLEN PRETTY COOL.
THEN WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, DIAL IN THE NEXT 20.
MR BOUSHAY, ARE YOU READY? ARE YOU READY? PLEASE PROCEED.
WELL, I SAY I WOULD LIKE TO WISH, UH, UH, JAY
I GUESS YOU'RE READY FOR THE NEXT ONE.
YEAH, I FIGURED THAT IT'S A GOOD TIARA.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND REGARDING JEFF ANDERSON.
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MR JEFF.I UNDERSTAND HE WAS RETIREMENT.
YOU'RE ON YOUR, HE CAN HEAR YOU.
I WAS, I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT IT WAS A GREAT, UH, WORKING WITH DAN AND I'M VERY HAPPY FOR YOU AND YOUR RETIREMENT.
MR. HERNANDEZ IS ASSISTANT CITY CLERK.
YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AT SMITH PLANNING COMMISSION? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
I'M CALLING TO CONGRATULATE MR. ANDERSON, JEFF ANDERSON FOR HIS RETIREMENT AND JUST TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE TIMES THAT WE, WE, UH, WORKED TOGETHER.
UM, I WORKED THERE FOR LIKE THREE YEARS AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND I WORKED CLOSELY TOGETHER, SO CONGRATULATIONS JEFF.
WE SAID AT SOME POINT TOO, IF WE GET THE, YOU KNOW, THE FULL NAMES OF THE CALLERS.
THAT WAS, UH, MR MIGUEL HERNANDEZ.
THE NEXT CALLER IS MS FABIOLA WONG'S.
WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO MISS VERONICA HERNANDEZ.
THIS IS A ASSISTANT CITY CLERK FOR THE CITY COMMISSION.
AND FORMERLY A PLANNER AT WEST COVINA.
I WANTED TO WISH JEFF WELL AND SHE CONGRATULATIONS ON HIS RETIREMENT.
AT THIS LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, I STARTED AS AN INTERN IN WEST COVINA AND FEEL SO LUCKY TO HAVE JEFF AS MY BOSS FOR FOUR YEARS.
UM, I ALWAYS KNEW THAT JESSICA WAS OPEN FOR ANY QUESTION, NO MATTER HOW SMALL OR FREQUENT.
THANK YOU, JOE, FOR HELPING ME GROW AS A PLANNER AND A PERSON.
I LEARNED SO MUCH AT WEST COVINA AND MY EXPERIENCES THERE PROVIDED A SOLID FOUNDATION WHEN I MOVED ON.
JEFF WAS AND REMAINS A GREAT MENTOR.
I'M INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL TO HAVE.
THANK YOU, JEFF FOR ALL YOUR GUIDANCE, ADVICE, KINDNESS, AND MOSTLY THE FREQUENT DONUTS, PIES AND ICE CREAM AT STAFF MEETINGS.
WISHING YOU ALL THE BEST AND A HAPPY RETIREMENT.
OUR NEXT CALLER IS CHRISTINE DELIS RENTALS.
HI, THIS IS DEAN AND I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE
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ZACH ON HIS RETIREMENT AND ALL THE YEARS THAT HE'S DONE SERVICE TO NOT ONLY THE CITY OF TREVINO BUT ALSO TO ALL THE PEOPLE OR THAT HE TRUSTS PASSWORDS, INCLUDING MYSELF.SO I'M A LITTLE BIT, I JUST, I'M READY.
UM, BUT UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR CARDS AND I THINK ALL OF US IN THE CITY AND SAY THAT YOU'RE ONE OF THE FEST.
I'M GOING TO GO TO MR. ALLEN HERNANDEZ.
THIS IS LISA SHERRICK, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK FOR THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
YOU WANT US TO GET TONIGHT'S PLANNING COMMISSION? GO AHEAD.
UM, AND HE, YOU THINK FOR MY TIME THERE, DO YOU HAVE IT? ARE YOU PLAYING? YEAH, GO AHEAD AND MUTE IT AND THEN GO AHEAD AND TALK.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING SUCH A GREAT MENTOR.
UM, UM, AND I THINK EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR, FOR MY SELF APPEARS, UM, TAKE CARE AND ENJOY.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? OH, HONORABLE AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
JUST WANTED TO CALL AND CONGRATULATE JEFF ANDREW SET ON HIS RETIREMENT.
UM, I CAN'T BELIEVE, I THINK I CAN GIVE THERE 21 YEARS.
SO I'M UH, BY THE WAY, I'M A WEST COVINA EMPLOYEE AND CURRENTLY CITY MANAGER AND IN BALDWIN PARK.
AND UH, HE WAS THERE 21 YEARS EXCEEDING MY 18 YEARS.
I THINK HE'S THE LAST OF AN ERA, THE LAST UH, DIRECTOR THAT I WORKED WITH THERE.
SO, UM, ANYWAYS, CONGRATULATIONS JEFF ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
UM, IT WAS GREAT WORKING WITH YOU.
YOU ONLY MADE ONE MISTAKE IF YOU DIDN'T COME WORK FOR ME IN BALDWIN PARKER, AND I'M JUST KIDDING.
BUT ANYWAY, WHEN THIS IS ALL OVER, WE'LL THROW A PARTY AND GET YOU YOUR COSTCO CAKE CAKE.
SO, UM, TAKE CARE AND KEEP IN TOUCH.
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OH, GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS JEFF UNDER SOMETHING NIGHT.
JEFF AND I, UM, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE MENTORING THAT YOU DID ON MY EARLY STAGES IN MY CAREER.
THANKS TO YOU, I DISCOVER PLANNING AND WHAT HE CAN DO TO IMPROVE COMMUNITIES AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, I WAS CURIOUS AND EXCITED TO BE A PLANNER AND FOLLOW YOUR DREAM OR PATH.
THERE WAS SUPPORT INCLUDED LENDING ME GET DRESSED WHEN I LIVE IN A NIGHTDRESS PROGRAM.
YOU PREPARE ME FOR MY FIRST INTERVIEW AND YOU DID SUCH A GOOD JOB THAT I WOULD HIRE WITHOUT ANY PREVIOUS PLANNING EXPERIENCE.
YEARS LATER WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER AGAIN IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
YOUR PATIENT'S KNOWLEDGE AND GUIDANCE.
DURING MY TENURE WITH THE CITY AS MY IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR AND COLLEAGUE, WE WERE ALWAYS WILLING TO, YOU WERE ALWAYS WILLING TO LISTEN SPECIALLY WHEN WE CAN NOT SEE EYE TO EYE ON THINGS.
YOU ALWAYS WILLING TO COLLABORATE AND BE OPEN MINDED AS WE TALK THROUGH AND WORK THROUGH ISSUES, FINDING VIABLE SOLUTIONS.
ONE THING WAS FOR SURE WE BOTH SHARED THE SAME VISION, DOING WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS AS A FRIEND ALWAYS AND RESIDENTS.
MY FAMILY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS COMMUNITY AND TO THOSE OF US IN THE PLANNING FIELD.
AS MANY HAVE MENTIONED THAT ALREADY IT WILL BE MISSED.
I'M GLAD TO PATIENTS KNOW RETIREMENT, MY FAMILY AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
IS MR MIGUEL NOON YET?
DO YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK AT TONIGHT'S PLANNING COMMISSION? I WORKED FOR JEFF AND WANTED TO CONGRATULATE HIM.
I WORKED IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA FROM 2005 TO 2007.
UH, LIKE MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SPOKEN ALREADY, YOU WERE A, UH, ONE OF MY FIRST MENTORS IN PLANNING.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU HAVE DEDICATED TO THE PROFESSION AND THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED FOR YOU AND WITH YOU AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU HAVE SERVED FOR.
I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS WE WERE ALL LUCKY TO WORK WITH YOU.
UH, WE'LL MISS A, UH, A WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANT.
AND AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AND WE WISH YOU, UH, AND THE CITY ALL THE BEST MOVING TARGET.
THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER CHAIR.
WE JUST HAD A WHO'S WHO OF A PLANNER, QUITE A TESTAMENT, JEFF TO YOU AND UH, I THINK YOU'LL, YOU'LL HEAR FROM US, YOU KNOW, LATER ON IN THE MEETING.
THAT WAS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WAS GOOD TO HEAR THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE AGAIN AND UH, YOU KNOW, THE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION THEY HAVE FOR YOU IS, YOU KNOW, IS WELL DESERVED.
AND YOU KNOW, MY GOD, YOU COULD, YOU COULD, EVEN FROM OUR GREAT DISTANCES APART HERE, WE CAN, WE CAN FEEL IT.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY SOMETHING REALLY AWESOME.
AND THIS DIRECTOR, ANDERSON, I, I, I WILL SAVE SOME COMMENTS TILL THE END, BUT I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO LISA AND SHE TOLD ME THERE WAS BUCKS, YOU KNOW HER, CAUSE I CALLED YOU AS WELL.
I WAS KIND OF IRRITATED THAT THERE WERE 13 CALLERS AND WHAT WERE THEY THINKING THEY WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT? SO THIS IS COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED, BUT I DO APPRECIATE HEARING ALL THOSE VOICES.
THEY'RE ALL GOOD PEOPLE AND HAD LOTS OF GOOD MEMORIES WITH THEM.
AND EVEN, UH, ROBERT WHO'S, UH, WHO I DIDN'T WORK WITH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE HAD SOME GOOD CAMARADERIE OVER THE YEARS
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TOO.YEAH, WELL I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T THINK I COULD KEEP A SECRET, BUT I GUESS I CAN, CAUSE I KINDA KNEW THAT WAS COMING.
SO, UH, ALL RIGHT, WELL I GUESS WE CAN, UH, DRY OUR EYES AND MOVE ON TO THE, UH, BODY OF THE AGENDA, WHICH IS, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO.
AND THIS IS A PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 19 DASH ZERO ONE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 19 DASH ZERO ONE BARRIER 19 DASH ZERO ONE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO ONE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
THE APPLICANT IS MATTHEW LIVINGSTON RIDGECREST REAL ESTATE LLC AND THE LOCATION IS 1912 WEST VIRGINIA AVENUE.
MR. DIRECTOR, THE STAFF REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED AND PRESENTED BY WHOM? UH, THAT'LL BE PRESENTED BY MYSELF IF I CAN KEEP MY, UH, THANK YOU MYSELF STRAIGHT AFTER ALL THAT.
I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING AND I DO WANT TO DO A COUPLE, UH, BUSINESS THINGS AND I ALREADY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, THE APPLICANTS ARE STILL THERE.
SO YOU, MATT LIVINGSTON AND CHRISTOPHER HAUN AND DOUGLAS PANCAKE, ARE YOU STILL ALL THREE ON THE LINE? YES, WE ARE.
AND THEN, UH, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, KEVIN FARRIER, IS HE ON THE LINE? YES, JEFF.
SO WE WILL HAVE THOSE WHEN WE GET TO THERE.
IF THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT, UH, AND WHEN WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEAK, PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION, A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER, BUT I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH AN UNUSUAL WAY.
UM, WE DO, WE DID GET ONE EMAIL FROM MR. ROBERT TORRES AND I DID FORWARD THAT TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, AND UH, HE DIDN'T, HE WANTED TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU BUT HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY NEED IT RE READ INTO THE RECORD.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE CAN RESPOND TO THAT.
SO LET ME THEN GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT AND IS, UH, THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED THIS IS A PRECISE PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT VARIANCE AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
AND THE ADDRESS IS 1912 WEST MERSEYSIDE ROAD.
THE SITE, UH, TRY AND GET HER SHAPE A LOT ON THE CORNER OF VAN HORN AND MERCE AND UP AGAINST THE WASH.
BASICALLY THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE LOT.
THE EXISTING SITE IS 2.27 ACRES AND IT IS VACANT, ALTHOUGH HISTORICALLY THERE WAS A SCHOOL THERE.
IT WAS UH, DEMOLISHED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A VACANT PROPERTY FOR PROBABLY TWO OR THREE YEARS.
THE PROPOSAL, AGAIN IT'S FOR A PRECISE PLAN FOR THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE FOR AN 81,759 SQUARE FOOT, TWO-STORY ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WITH MEMORY CARE AND IN 56 PARKING SPACES THERE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE FACILITY IN THE
AND THEN THERE IS A VARIANCE BASICALLY TO UH, EXCEED STANDARDS THAT WE ARE ONE ZONE CALLS FOR.
AND I'LL COVER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THERE'S THREE VARIANTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
AND THEN LASTLY, THERE'S A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FOR THE REMOVAL OF 37 TREES DEFINED AS SIGNIFICANT.
AND THOSE TREES ARE DEFINED AS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF THEIR LOCATION IN THE FRONT YARD OR THE STREET SIDE SETBACK, NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR SPECIES.
SO THERE'S NO OAKS OR SYCAMORES OR CALIFORNIA WALNUTS ON THE SITE.
THEY ARE BECAUSE OF THEIR LOCATION.
OH, THIS IS A SITE PLAN OF THE PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S A TRIANGULAR SHAPE LOT AND UH, THE UM, OF THE, YOU CAN'T SEE THE STREET NAMES.
THE, THE STREET TO THE RIGHT WOULD BE MERCEDES AND THE STREET TO THE TOP WOULD BE VAN HORN.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE WASH, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN PROPOSED WITH THE PARKING FACILITIES AT THE FRONT OF THE LOT UP AGAINST MERCER SAID WITH TWO DRIVE APPROACHES, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE LOT.
AND THEN IT IS A TRIANGULAR SHAPED BUILDING WITH A COURTYARD IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH IS ESPECIALLY GOOD FOR THE MEMORY CARE FACILITY.
THERE ARE SOME LANDSCAPED GROUNDS ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THEIR CLEAR PROPOSAL IS TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT IN THE COURTYARD.
50 FOOT ON THE FRONT AND 25 ON THE STREET SIDE AND 10 ON THE, ON THE WASHDOT.
NOW YOU'LL SEE THE ELEVATIONS COME UP.
WE HAVE THE MARCET ELEVATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE FRONT, AND IT MAY BE A LITTLE HARD TO TELL ON THERE, BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT THERE'S A, THERE'S A PEAKED ROOF, A KIND OF A GABLE ROOF ON THE FIRST THREE ELEVATION AT THE PORT OF CACHE, SO YOU CAN DRIVE UP AND DROP PEOPLE OFF AT THAT LOCATION.
THE REST OF THE BUILDING IS SET BACK A BIT.
ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU'LL SEE IT'S MORE OF THE SERVICE AREA WHERE THERE'S A TRASH ENCLOSURE AND
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DELIVERIES WOULD BE MADE INTO THERE.SO IT'S NOT IN AN AREA WHERE IT MIGHT NEGATIVELY AFFECT, UH, RESIDENTIAL ON THE, UH, ON THE SIDE ELEVATION ON VAN HORN, YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP, AND THAT'S ALL ONE ELEVATION.
ALTHOUGH CLINTON THE TWO, IT'S ALL ONE ELEVATION WITH AN EDGE MATCH.
UM, IF YOU LOOK ON THE FAR, THE UPPER PORTION AND THE FAR LEFT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT PORTICO SHAY THAT EXTENDS OUT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF PROVIDING SOME DIFFERENT, UM, MATERIALS AND SURFACES.
UM, ALONG THAT ELEVATION PROVIDE INTEREST.
THEY HAVE SHOWN US A MMM CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT SHOWS, UH, LANDSCAPING TREES BEING PLANTED ALONG THE FRONT STREET SIDE AND THE WASH SIDE WITH TREES ALSO IN THE COURTYARD.
UM, THAT AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING LAYOUT.
AND AGAIN, I WILL SAY THAT THE, THE SERVICE AREA WHERE THE DELIVERIES WOULD BE MADE IN THE TRASH ENCLOSURE IS SORT OF AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
UM, IN THAT TRIANGULAR PORTION THERE WHERE YOU'D COME IN FROM MERSAD AND GO STRAIGHT INTO THERE.
SO, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE WASH.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRADITIONAL USES, LIKE, UM, HEARST RANCH AND THERE'S A CIVIC CLUB THERE AS WELL.
I CAN'T, I THINK IT'S A SHRINER'S OR SOMETHING TO STOP.
THE MASONIC LODGE I THINK IS MASONIC LODGE.
AND THEN WE DID, UM, THE, UH, EVALUATION AND REVIEWING, UH, REVIEWING THE ENVIRONMENTAL SITUATION THERE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION WOULD BE REQUIRED, WHICH WE CALL AN M IN D FOR SHORT.
UH, THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT WITH APPROPRIATE MITIGATION MEASURES.
UM, WE DID SOME CULTURAL RESOURCE DISCUSSION WITH THE, THE TRIBAL UNIT THAT'S IN THE VICINITY.
WE DID A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, WE DID A NOISE AND VIBRATION STUDY.
WE DID AN AIR QUALITY IN GREENHOUSE GAS STUDY AND BASICALLY WE FOUND SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE MITIGATED.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE, IT CAN'T BE FULLY MITIGATED.
AND WE DO HAVE THE MITIGATION MEASURES PROVIDED IN ATTACHMENT ONE EXHIBIT OF ATTACHMENT ONE IN THE STAFF REPORT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE PROPOSALS OF, I'M SORRY, THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED HERE.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE PRECISE PLAN.
PRECISE PLAN IS FOR THE PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION.
IT ALSO INCLUDES A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
I WON'T GO INTO THAT VERY MUCH UNLESS WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
LIKE WE SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THERE ARE 37 TREES THAT ARE IN THE FRONT AND THE SIDE SETBACK STREET SIDE SETBACK THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED FOR THE GRADING FOR GRADING PURPOSES.
SO THAT'S WHY THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED, THE DESIGN IS ATTRACTIVE AND FOCUSES THE SITE TO THE INTERIOR COURTYARD.
SO A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES WOULD OCCUR IN THE COURTYARD.
IT'S APPROPRIATE IN SCALE AND ARCHITECTURE TO THE SINGLE FAMILY USES AROUND IT.
MOST OF THE HOUSES AROUND, THERE ARE ONE STORY, TWO STORY, BUT IT IS TWO STORY IN, IN CONTEXT, UH, IN BUILT IN SIMILAR FASHION IN A MORE OF A TRADITIONAL STYLE TO THE HOUSES THAT ARE AROUND THAT AREA.
THERE IS, AS WE SHOWED ON THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN, THERE ARE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING WITH TREE SCREENS ALONG BOTH STREETS THAT WOULD HELP SOFTEN THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING FROM THE STREET.
AND THE PARKING LOT HAS BEEN KEPT TO A MINIMUM AND JUST FOCUSED ON THEM OR SAID FRONTAGE WITH NO ACCESS ON VAN HORN, WHICH IS IT GENERALLY A RESIDENTIAL STREET, WHEREAS MARCET IS MORE OF A, A COLLECTOR STREET, UM, AN ARTERIAL TYPE OF STREET.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS ALSO REQUIRED AND THAT'S FOR THE OPERATION.
THE YOUTH OR THE ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE FACILITY FACILITIES IS INTENDED FOR RESIDENTS 75 AND OLDER.
SO IT'S A LOT OF THEM DON'T HAVE CARS AND THAT'S WHO IT'S INTENDED FOR.
AS THEY HAVE SHOWN IN THEIR, IN THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS PLAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 40 EMPLOYEES WITH A MAXIMUM OF 20 ONSITE AT ANY ONE TIME, UH, INWARD FOCUSED SERVICES.
AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE BUFFERED BY THE BUILDING, LANDSCAPING AND PARKING.
THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT NOISE OR TRAFFIC IMPACTS ANTICIPATED WITH A USE OF THIS TYPE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY MORE A QUIETER TYPE OF USE AND IT ISN'T A GREAT TRAFFIC GENERATOR ON MOST DAYS OF THE YEAR.
AND IT ALSO PROVIDES A NEEDED SERVICE IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING.
THEN WE HAVE THE VARIANCE THAT THE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE IS BECAUSE THIS SITE IS ZONED R ONE.
SO IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, WHICH MEANS THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE DESIGNED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
THIS IS A USE THAT'S ALLOWED IN THAT AREA.
BUT THE, THE UM, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WERE NOT NECESSARILY TAILORED FOR ITS USE.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE VARIANT.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT LIMIT I THINK BY SIX FEET FOR A TWO STORY STRUCTURE WITH AN APPROPRIATELY DESIGNED GABLE ROOF.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY THEORETICALLY COULD MEET THE HEIGHT LIMIT BUT THEN DIDN'T HAVE A FLAT ROOF AND IT WOULD CHANGE
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THE WHOLE WAY THAT BUILDING LOOKS UNTIL WE THINK THIS IS A BETTER, MORE ATTRACTIVE DESIGN.THE LOCK, THE LOCK COVERAGE LIMIT IS APPROPRIATE FOR SINGLE FAMILY WITH 35% 31%.
SO THIS IS UM, IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR AN INSTITUTIONAL OR WHAT WE CALL SEMI-COMMERCIAL USE AND THERE ARE THOSE USES AS WE JUST DISCUSSED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WASH THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS TYPE OF USE.
THEN THERE IS MORE PAVING IN THE FRONT YARD.
THEN OUR ONE STANDARDS WOULD SUGGEST SHOULD HAPPEN.
BUT I THINK THAT IN THIS CASE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PUT THE PAVING WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
THE PARKING FACILITY I SHOULD SAY AND AGAIN REITERATE THAT THEY DID NOT PUT ANY ACCESS ONTO VAN HORN, WHICH IS REALLY A MORE OF A QUIETER RESIDENTIAL STREET SO WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANTS FOR THE REASON THAT THIS, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WERE DESIGNED FOR OUR ONE SINGLE FAMILY TYPE OF CITY DID DO A FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS JUST COVER THAT CAUSE THE FIRST TIME I THINK THAT THE COMMISSION HAS SEEN ONE OF THOSE BUT IT WON'T BE THE LAST SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE GUIDELINES IN IT, A NEW DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.
STAFF HIRED BATTLE SOME COMPANY TO PREPARE THAT ANALYSIS AND THE APPLICANT DID BEAR THE COST AND WE DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE PREPARATION OF THAT FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.
THE ANALYSIS, EVALUATES THE REVENUES THAT WOULD BE GENERATED AND FORECAST THE COST.
AND BASED ON THAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO AGREE TO A PAYMENT OF 36,700 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE OPERATIONS OF FACILITIES WITH THE INCREASE OF CPI OVER TIME DEPENDING ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEARS.
UM, TWO THINGS WE DO, UM, I'M GOING TO NEAR THIS IS WE'RE GETTING INTO THE CONCLUSION HERE, BUT I DO WANT TO COVER THAT.
WE DID, WE, WE DO HAVE THAT SUGGESTION TO MODIFY TWO CONDITIONS, ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS BEING ON THE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THAT'S ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION CONDITION 14.
I CAN GIVE YOU THE, THE ATTACHMENT NUMBER THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH, I THINK IT'S L IT'S CONDITIONAL, BUT IT'S ON ATTACHMENT THREE CONDITIONAL.
AND ALL THIS IS REALLY SAYING IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT A, A CAP ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN INCREASE IN A YEAR.
SO THE CAP WOULD BE 4% SO IT WOULD GO UP CPI, BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD HAVE A CEILING OF 4% IN ANY ONE GIVEN YEAR.
AND WE DID THE APPLICANT, WE DID DISCUSS THAT WITH THE APPLICANT.
THEY, THEY PREFERRED THAT FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES.
SO WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT THE SECOND CONDITION WE'RE SUGGESTING CHANGES IN THE PRECISE PLAN, WHICH IS ATTACHMENT NUMBER TWO.
OH NO, IT'S CONDITIONED FOR L AND IT'S UNDER THE ENGINEERING CONDITIONS.
AND THERE WAS SOME ORIGINAL CONDITION SUGGESTED MAYBE MULTIPLE STREETLIGHTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS.
HE GENERALLY ONLY REQUIRES STREETLIGHTS AND IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE THE IMPROVEMENT IS OCCURRING.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD BE TO INSTALL NEW STREET LIGHTS ON MARCET AVENUE ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT.
SO WITH THOSE TWO SUGGESTED CONDITION CHANGES, I'LL COME TO THE CONCLUSION.
UH, STAFF DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH HIM FOR PROBABLY OVER TWO, WELL IT IS OVER TWO YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
THEY DID HAVE TO, IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THEY DID HAVE TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
THEY HAD ONE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AT WHICH ONE OF OUR CALLER ENDS.
RON GARCIA WAS THE ONE WHO ATTENDED THAT MEETING.
UH, AND THEN, UM, THEY HAD ONE IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
UM, SO THEY DID DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THEY DID OBTAIN, UH, THREE SUPPORT LETTERS WHICH ARE ATTACHED OR HIS ATTACHMENT NUMBER EIGHT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THOSE WERE SUPPORTIVE, THE NEIGHBOR OF NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THEY DID DO THEIR WORK AND TRYING TO PROVIDE AN ATTRACTIVE AND I THINK, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA THAT'S AROUND IT.
UH, THE DESIGN AND THE BUILT FORM AROUND IT, THEY PROPOSE USE AND STRUCTURE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE REQUESTED VARIANCES ARE REASONABLE GIVEN THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE FACT THAT IT'S ZONED SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THEN LASTLY, THEY HAVE AGREED TO PAY FOR FISCAL IMPACTS TO OFFSET COSTS TO THE CITY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF SUPPORT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF FROM THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT? IF SO, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR QUESTION.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE'S AT.
I HEAR ARE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BUT
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OKAY.NO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
THEN I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UH, AND BITE THE APPLICANT.
I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING, YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME EARLIER BUT I WANTED TO GO OVER THE CHART THAT WE HAVE.
UNFORTUNATELY THIS THING DOES NOT HAVE A PAGE.
THE CHART OF THE STAFF REPORT, DR. ANDERSON, COMMISSIONER HANGER, THE CHART AND THE STAFF REPORT.
I THINK IT'S ON PAGE FOUR CAUSE THERE'S NO PAGE NUMBER EIGHT ON THE, I BELIEVE IT'S ON PAGE FOUR.
UM, FOR THE FLOOR AREA RATIOS BECAUSE YOU GOT TO ASK HIM FOR VARIANCE.
WELL THEY'RE ASKING FOR VARIANCE AND RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE 35 SO WITH A VARIANCE OF WHAT EVERY RATIO, WHICH IS 0.83, IF IT'S AT 35, HOW MANY SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THAT? THE FOOTPRINT.
SO BASICALLY THE FOOTPRINT ONLY ALLOWED 35 POINTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE 35% OF, UM, GIVE ME A SECOND.
THAT'S 34,600 THAT, SO THAT'S THE FOOTPRINT.
AND THEN THEY COULD GO TWICE THAT WITH A SECOND STORY.
BUT THEN, UM, THE VARIANCE WAS REQUIRED FOR, UM, 80, ALMOST 83% BASICALLY CORRECT.
THE VARIANCES FOR THE LOT COVERAGE, WHICH KIND OF GOES WITH, GOES ALONG WITH THE FLURRY RATIO, BUT IT'S FOR THE, IF YOU GO DOWN A COUPLE ROWS, YOU'LL SEE THE LOCK COVERS.
SO FOR THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT ORIGINALLY IT'S, IT'S ALLOWED ONLY 35% OF THE FOOTPRINT, BUT WE INCREASED IT TO 83% OF THE FOOTPRINT.
SO THE FOOTPRINT IS THE LOT COVERAGE FLOOR AREAS.
SO THAT'S 35% VERSUS IT INCREASES TO 42%.
AND THEN THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS, THE FLOOR IS NOT REALLY A LIMIT.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S SORT OF A GUIDELINE OF 35% AND WITH HOUSES THEN YOU, YOU REMEMBER THE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT WHERE YOU GO THROUGH THE LARGE EXPANSION IN THE RIGHT ALLOWS 35% GEOFF AT 35% THAT'S 34,608 SQUARE FOOT FOR LIVABLE SPACE IS THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE ALLOWED FOOTPRINT, BUT THAT THAT'S WHAT, 35% SO I'M TRYING TO GET TO SEE IF WHEN WE INCREASE IT TO 83% WHAT FLOOR AREA RATIO IS, HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THAT? WELL THERE'S, THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS 82,000 I THINK IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECT.
SO YES, 82 82 THAT, OKAY, SO 82,000 SO IT'S REALLY WHERE THE ORIGINAL CODE IS 35 SO IT'S LIKE 35% WHICH IS COME OUT TO BE ABOUT 34 34,608 SQUARE FOOT.
SO IF YOU BUMP IT UP TO 82 SO THE BUILDING BASICALLY GOT TO BE 82,000 SQUARE FOOT.
AN ADDITIONAL DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE LIVABLE SPACE, IS THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION VERY WELL.
UM, THE, THE, THE LOT COVERAGE IS 34,000.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ON THE ROW UNDER LOCKOUT, I SEE THAT THE FLOOR AREA COVERS ANY PART OF A FLOOR.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON THE GROUND ON THE GROUND.
SO IT INCLUDES A SECOND STORY IN THE FIRST STORY, BUT IT'S ONLY ALLOWED THAT RATE IF HE STATED THAT RATIO, IT'S ONLY ALLOWED 35%, WHICH IS 34,000 SQUARE FOOT VERSUS THE BUILDING OR THE LIVABLE SPACE INCREASE THE 82,000 SQUARE FOOT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO YOU'RE BASICALLY INCREASING THE BUILDING ALMOST QUITE A BIT.
WE'RE ALLOWING, WE SHOULD SAY THAT THE TRIP'S PROPOSAL IS TO ALLOW A BUILDING THAT HAS A LOT MORE LOT COVERAGE THAN A HOUSE NEXT DOOR WOULD BE ALLOWED.
SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO BASICALLY BY ALLOWING THAT THEY INCREASE THE LIVABLE SPACE BY 48,000 SO
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MORE THAN DOUBLE.JEFF, IF WE WERE TO SAY WITH THE EXISTING CODE, THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, THEY ONLY ALLOW 34,000 SQUARE FOOT.
BUT BECAUSE THE INCREASE IN, WE ALLOWED THE VARIANTS TO 83% THAT ALLOWED THE LIVABLE SPACE INCREASED BY 48,000 SO 34,000 BUTTS ALLOWED WHEN WE INCREASED IT TO 83% WE ALLOW AN ADDITION OF 204,000 IN ADDITION OF 48,000 WHICH TOTALS TWO 82,000 SQUARE FOOT A LIVABLE SPACE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
WELL, I THINK THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASSUMING SOMETHING, I'M FLURRY RACHEL.
THERE IS NO CAP ON FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THE R ONE ZONE.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS KEPT IS A LOT COVERAGE.
SO THE LOT COVERAGE IS PROPOSED AT 41,000 AND THEY ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE IS 34 SIX SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE INCREASE.
I MEAN YOU SAID IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT, THERE'S NO CAP, BUT THE 35% IS THE CAP.
THE 35% ISN'T, IT'S A THRESHOLD THAT'S USED TO MEASURE WHEN HOUSES NEED TO HAVE A HEARING.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WHEN WE CHANGED THE VARIANCE, SOME 35% TO 82% BASICALLY THE BUILDING LIVABLE SPACE IS 34,000 SQUARE FOOT, BUT WE JUST ADDED BY CHANGING IT TO 82% WE JUST ADDED ANOTHER 48,000 SQUARE FOOT.
BASICALLY THE BUILDING ALMOST MORE THAN DOUBLE.
UH, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, HANG ON.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MATH YOU'RE DOING.
I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS IS TECHNICALLY THAT IS NOT HOW THAT STAFF LOOKS AT OR W WE BELIEVE THE CODE, THE CODE SAYS YOU CAN COVER 35% OF A SINGLE FAMILY LOT WITH STRUCTURE.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IF IT'S SINGLE RESIDENTIAL, IT'S ONLY ALLOW ONE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL, OR EVEN IF HE WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED WHAT THE EXISTING CODE IS, IF WE WOULD NOT TO GIVE ANY VARIANCE, THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE LIVABLE WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED TO 34,000 SQUARE FOOT.
BUT BECAUSE HE CHANGED, IF HE WOULD ALLOW CHANGE IT, THE VARIANCE, IT WOULD GO UP TO 82% 82,000 SQUARE FOOT.
SO ALMOST DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING LIVABLE SPACE LIFE.
LET'S GO DOWN TO THE SECOND VARIANCE.
LET'S MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
WELL LET, LET ME, LET ME BE CLEAR WHEN I'M TALKING WHAT I'M TALKING.
WHAT I'M ANSWERING IS LOT COVERAGE AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FLORIDA RATIO.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COVERAGE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LACK OF COVERAGE.
W W, W WHERE DO YOU WANT, WHICH EYE LINE ITEM DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT FIRST? NOT COVERAGE.
COVERAGE IS ONE OF THE VARIANCES.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE VARIANTS.
SO THEIR TOTAL FULLY RENTS, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LOT COVERAGE.
SO A LOT OF COVERAGE RIGHT NOW IS 35 BASICALLY THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
SO THE WHOLE BUILDING IS 34,000 SQUARE FOOT, BUT WE IN THE ONLY INCREASE A LOT COVERAGE, 42% SO THIS, THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE FOOTPRINT JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
SO FROM 34 TO 42 45 SO IT'S ABOUT SEVEN 7,000 MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN TERMS OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
SO THAT AVERAGE, OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE HEIGHTS NOW.
SO THE HEIGHT IS 25 FEET BY TWO STORIES, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT'S, YOU KNOW IT'S ALLOWED IN THAT AREA.
BUT IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THE MARIANA 31 FOOT, BUT SO THE ONE FOOT THAT'S LIKE YOU SAID, ANOTHER SIX FEET INCREASED TO MAKE THE ROOF LOOKS BETTER.
NO, THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER VARIANTS.
NOW MOVING ONTO THE THIRD VARIANCE, WHICH IS THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.
THIS PARTICULAR RACIAL, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE AT ITS EXISTING CODE IT'S ONLY ALLOWED 35 SO 35 THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE OR LIVABLE SPACE WISE, IT'S ONLY 34,000 SQUARE FOOT.
BUT WHEN IT'D BE CHANGING APPEARANCE, TWO 82 THEN THE BUILDING SIZE WOULD ORDER.
THE BUILDING LIVABLE WOULD INCREASE TO 82,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS ANOTHER 48,000.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS PUT 8,000 MORE PLUS BUILDING LIVABLE SPACE FOR THAT.
LET, LET, LET, I JUST PULLED UP ON THE SCREEN THE VARIANCES BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT THE VARIANCE IS.
UH, THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR BULLET POINTS HERE.
FIRST ONE'S JUST TALKING ABOUT THE
UM, THE, THE SECOND BULLET POINT IS TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT LIMIT, WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
THE THIRD BULLET POINT IS TO EXCEED LAW COVERAGE.
THE FOURTH ONE IS EXCESSIVE PAVING IN THE FRONT YARD, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE
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AMOUNT OF DRIVEWAY SPACE.YOU CAN'T PAVE YOUR WHOLE FRONT YARD.
THERE IS NO VARIANCE FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO.
AND THE THRESHOLD IS MEANT TO REQUIRE HOUSES TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF IT GOES OVER A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, THIS IS WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING SO THERE'S NO REASON TO APPLY THOSE STANDARDS TO A SEMI COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S THE REST WHOLE THAT WE ARE CHANGING FROM A 35 TO 82 VARIANTS.
IT WENT UP IN TERMS OF THE MUSCLE, IT JUST WENT UP 48,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING SIZE, LIVABLE SPACE.
THE MATH BUILDING JUST INCREASED AND I THINK WE HAVE A TYPE OF WANT TO BREAK THAT UP IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW THE PERCENTAGE, CAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES UNDER 1% 35% THEN ENDED UP AT 82% THE DIFFERENCES IS WHAT IT, WHAT WE HAD THE THRESHOLD RIGHT NOW IS ONLY 30 BUT IF WE WOULD HAVE INCREASED THAT VARIANCE OR GO OVER TO 35% INCREASE, THE BUILDING SIZE IS 48 48,000 SQUARE FOOT.
LITERALLY MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT THE BUILDING IS REGARDING TO THE EXISTING VESSEL.
SO THE, IF IF YOU APPLY THE 35 CORRECT? LIKE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS.
SO THE THRESHOLD, THE THRESHOLD FOR A ROYER POINT OF ORDER.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO AHEAD QUESTION, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE GIVE THE COURTESY TO THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TO FINISH BEFORE YOU GO ON WITH ANOTHER SUBJECT.
COMMISSIONER HOLT, PLEASE LET HIM ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
IS A COMMISSIONER HITTING, YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS BUT YOU'RE TALKING RIGHT.
SO LET HIM ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
OKAY, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.
SO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO VALUE TO HAVE UH, A, A GROUND FLOOR AND A SECOND FLOOR.
SO REALLY THAT W IT ALLOWS YOU UP TO 69,000 SQUARE FOOT.
IF THIS WAS A HOUSE OF SOMEBODY WHO WAS BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, THE FLARE REALLY ERASED RACIAL WOULD WOULD SAY YOU COULD HAVE A TWO STORY HOUSE OF 69,000 SQUARE FEET.
BUT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT ANY CLEAR.
THE FLURRY RATIO IS A THRESHOLD.
YOU CANNOT GO OVER 35% UNLESS YOU APPLY FOR A VARIANCE.
THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS A STANDARD THAT WE HAVE IN THAT WAS PUT IN, IN THE ARWEN STANDARD TO ALLOW TO REQUIRE LARGER HOUSES OR CHANGES TO HOUSES TO GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING AND NOTIFICATION PROCESS.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND SO IT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY IN THIS CASE.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF HEARING NONE THEN I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANTS TO BE HEARD ON THEIR PROJECT.
CHRISTOPHER, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
UH, THIS IS MATTHEW LIVINGSTON.
UH, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO CONDUCT THIS MEETING IN THIS MANNER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, CONTINUING TO BE A IMPORTANT BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD IN THESE VERY STRANGE CIRCUMSTANCES.
UH, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING, UM, FOR DOING THIS TONIGHT.
AND OF COURSE, I WANT TO ALSO THANK JEFF ANDERSON.
UH, WANT TO BE THE 15TH OR 16TH PERSON.
UH, JEFF, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY A STAND UP GUY AND, UM, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GETTING US TO A HEARING BEFORE YOU RETIRED AND, UH, WISH YOU THE BEST OF US.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS MATT LIVINGSTON.
UH, MY PARTNER CHRISTOPHER HAHN IS HERE AS WELL.
UM, AND AS WELL AS OUR ARCHITECT DOUGLAS PANCAKE FROM DPA AND UM, CHRIS CHRISTOPHER, UH, RUNS OUR OPERATIONS.
SO IF THERE ARE OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS I WOULD, I'LL DEFER TO HIM.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, DOUGLAS IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY DESIGN RELATED QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND OUR VISION FOR IT.
UM, AND UH, MY REMARKS WILL BE PRETTY BRIEF.
UH, WE'RE BASED OUT OF GLENDALE.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, PROJECTS THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, KIND OF ACROSS THE RESIDENTIAL FOOD GROUP FROM HOME BUILDING TO UM, MULTIFAMILY AND ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE.
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UH, WE BUILT 13 ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, UM, AND AROUND THE COUNTRY.MOST OF OUR PROJECTS ARE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA NOW, BUT UNDER CHRIS'S WATCH, UM, HE STOLE 13 FACILITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED IN ON THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES IN WEST COVINA AS WELL AS SAN GABRIEL VALLEY.
WE HAVE DONE A TON OF MARKET RESEARCH AND WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF UNMET DEMAND EVEN THOUGH, UM, UH, MERRILL GARDENS IS GOING UP.
WE INCLUDED THAT IN OUR ANALYSIS.
AND, UM, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE DEMAND THAN THERE IS SUPPLY, UH, ASSISTED LIVING, UM, UNITS AND BEDS IN WEST COVINA, IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY.
WHAT, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A SITE, WE CONSIDER A FEW THINGS.
UM, WE CONSIDER IS THERE A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY? IS THERE THIS UNMET DEMAND? AND THAT WAS A RESOUNDING YES.
UH, THERE'S, WE'VE IDENTIFIED ABOUT 300 UNITS, UH, THAT NEED TO BE BUILT JUST TO VERBALIZE THE MARKET, JUST TO REACH SOME EQUILIBRIUM.
AND WE EXPECT THAT IT'S GOING TO GET SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, EXACERBATED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE NEXT, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AND DECADE AS THE BABY BOOMERS CONTINUE TO AGE.
SO, ONE, IS THERE A NEED? YES.
UH, TWO IS THIS INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE IN THE LOCATION.
UH, THREE, UH, CAN WE DELIVER A HIGH QUALITY FACILITY THAT WE'RE PROUD TO PUT OUR NAMES BEHIND? WE'RE, UM, WE TEND TO, UM, TO OWN AND OPERATE THIS FACILITY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
AND, UH, THE QUALITY OF OUR, UH, FACILITIES ARE IMPORTANT TO US AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY TO THE NEIGHBORS WANT US THERE.
UM, SO, UH, AND THAT ALSO WAS A RESOUNDING YES, OUR, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE UNMET DEMAND, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE, OUR ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT A FIVE MILE RADIUS, THAT THERE'S 300 UNITS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE BUILT IMMEDIATELY JUST TO MEET THE DEMAND THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
UM, AND WE FOCUSED OUR ANALYSIS ON A FIVE MILE RADIUS BECAUSE WEST COVINA MANNER, OUR PROJECT IS REALLY A PROJECT FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF WEST COVINA.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING WHAT PROPOSING TO BUILD WEST COVINA BANNER TO ATTRACT RESIDENTS FROM, UH, PASEDENA OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY ANYWHERE FURTHER THAN A FIVE MILE RADIUS.
IF THEY COME TO OUR FACILITY, GREAT.
BUT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE IMMEDIATE MARKET AREA.
AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT, UM, THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE A HIGH QUALITY PLACE FOR, UM, HIGH QUALITY PLACE FOR THE ELDERS OF WEST COVINA TO, UM, TELL THEM ABOUT THEIR LIFE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT FORCED TO MOVE, UH, FAR OUT TO PALM SPRINGS OR SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THERE'S MANY MORE FACILITIES.
IT'S MEANT FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE CITY THAT HAVE BUILT THE CITY, BUT THEY HAVE A PLACE TO STAY AS THEY GET OLDER AND CAN BE STRESSED TO THEIR FAMILIES.
SO YES, THERE'S A NEED OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, UH, AS FAR AS THE HIGH QUALITY PROJECT, UH, I THINK, UM, JEFF, UH, JEFF DID A GREAT JOB OF PROVIDING SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AT THE HIGH, HIGHLY AMENITIZED PROJECT.
UM, THE SHAPE OF THE SITE ACTUALLY ENDED UP BEING A BLESSING.
WE WERE A BIT CONCERNED BY THE TRIANGULAR SHAPE, UH, BUT WHEN, UH, DOUG AND HIS TEAM WERE DONE PUTTING A SITE PLAN TOGETHER, UH, CHRISTOPHER AND I WERE, WERE, WERE BLOWN AWAY.
UH, THE WAY THAT THE COURTYARD WORKS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, UM, PROVIDING A TON OF LIGHT TO OUR UNITS.
GREAT ACCESS TO THE COURTYARD.
YOU WALK IN THE ENTRY OF THE BUILDING.
UM, WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL WINDOWS LOOKING OUT IN THE COURTYARD.
AND THEN, UH, AS YOU WALK AROUND TO THE DINING AREA, IT'S THE SAME THING.
SO WE'RE REALLY ABLE TO MAXIMIZE BRINGING LIGHT INTO THE PROJECT.
UM, AND, AND I'D LOVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHAT I MENTIONED WITH THE MOST IMPORTANT CONCERN OF OURS IS TO THE NEIGHBORS WATCH US THERE.
AND WE SPENT EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS, WE MET WITH, UH, WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING BEFORE WE, UM, JUST AS WE PUT THE PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT AND WE WERE JUST STARTING OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND, UM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS THAT SHOWED UP WERE EITHER, UM, MISSILE MISUNDERSTOOD AND WE'RE READY TO RENT, RENT A UNIT FROM US AT THAT TIME, WHICH WE'RE GLAD TO SEE AS OTHER RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON.
VAN HORN CAME OUT AND WERE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE WERE PROPOSING NOT ONLY SOMETHING ON THE PROPERTY, UH, BECAUSE IT'S, UM, I THINK BEEN A BIT OF AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE FOR THEM.
UM, BUT TO HAVE SUCH, UH, AN APPROPRIATELY, UH, LAND USE AND THAT LOCATION.
UM, SO WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN THE AREA THAT TRANSITION, CAUSE JEFF MENTIONED THE TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL
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AND WE'RE KIND OF A HYBRID, UM, HYBRID HOUSING PRODUCT.UM, AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF A WASH THERE, BECAUSE THE SITE, UH, IT'S JUST VACANT LAND.
I THINK THERE, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES PEOPLE DUMPING ON THE PROPERTY AND SOME TRANSIENT PEOPLE COMING THROUGH.
SO I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY EAGER TO HAVE SOMETHING CONSTRUCTED THERE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP EYES ON THE STREET AND ACTIVATE THE AREA.
AND, UM, SO THEN IN MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, I NOT ONLY TO, WE HAVE TO, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, BUT I'VE ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH GONE DOOR TO DOOR ON VAN HORN AND TO TALK TO AS MANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORS AS I CAN.
UH, SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE INVITED ME INTO THEIR HOMES AND WE HAD, UM, VERY, I THINK VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS WHERE I PRESENTED THE PROJECT TO THEM.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE THE SUPPORT LETTERS YOU'VE SEEN BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WERE VERY EAGER TO, UM, TO, TO HELP US INVITE, FINDING THEIR SUPPORT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY, I THINK SENSITIVE TO THEM.
WE, UH, NO, WE HAVE NO PARTICULAR ACCESS ONTO VAN HORN, SO ALL OF IT COMES OFF OF HER, SAID WE HAVE, UM, LOCATED AS JEFF MENTIONED, WE LOCATED, UH, OUR SERVICE AREA AND OUR LOADING AREA ALONG ALONG THE WASH AND KIND OF ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE PUT IN A 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UH, VAN HORN TO OUR PROPERTY, TO OUR BUILDING.
AND NO ONE, NO ONE ASKED US TO DO THAT.
THAT WAS AN INITIAL DESIGN REQUIREMENT OF OURS, UM, THAT WE, UM, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, THAT WE COULD SAY, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY, HE SAID BACK FROM VAN HORN AND OFFER THAT UP IMMEDIATELY BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ANYONE TRIED TO PUSH US INTO DOING THAT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT GARNERED A LOT OF, UM, SUPPORT AND TRUST FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
SO THAT WOULD BE IN THE ENTERING SIDEWALK FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, WORKS REALLY WELL FOR EXERCISE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, I THINK, I, I, I FORGOT WHAT THE ALLOWABLE SETBACK IS THERE.
I THINK IT'S EITHER, I THINK IT'S FIVE FEET, MAYBE 10 FEET, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE AT 25 FEET, SO WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, SETBACKS FROM THERE AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL, THAT THE AREA FOR THE PEOPLE ON VAN HORN, UH, TO SEE.
AND, UM, AND THEN I THINK WHAT WE'RE DESIGNING A BEAUTIFUL JOELTON BEHIND IT.
AND, UM, OF COURSE, UH, THE NEIGHBORS ARE HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE WILL BE VERY QUIET NEIGHBORS.
OUR RESIDENTS TYPICALLY GO TO SLEEP VERY EARLY.
THEY, UM, ALMOST ENTIRELY DO NOT DRIVE ONCE IN A WHILE YOU'LL HAVE SOMEONE WHEN THEY FIRST GET THE BIG HUMIDITY AND SYSTEM BRINGING THEIR CAR AND TYPICALLY WITHIN, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS OR SO, UH, THEY GET RID OF THEIR CAR.
SO IT'S VERY, IT'S REALLY JUST STAFF ON TRAFFIC AND THEY'RE ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, USUALLY NOT ARRIVING DURING RUSH HOUR AS WELL.
UH, SO VERY MINIMAL TRAFFIC TO NO TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND NO IMPACTS TO THE SCHOOLS, PRACTICALLY NO IMPACTS TO THE PARKS.
UM, AND I THINK EVERYONE APPRECIATES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ROLE THAT OUR ELDERS HAVE PLAYED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE ARE EAGER TO, TO HELP THEM AND HELP PROVIDE A LIVING ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE OUR ONSITE MANAGERS, A GROUP NAMED ISL.
UM, THEY ARE VERY, UM, VERY EXPERIENCED COMPANY.
UH, THEY HAVE ABOUT FOUR DECADES OF EXPERIENCE.
THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE IN 19 STATES.
UH, THEY HAVE 80 COMMUNITIES, 24 OF WHICH ARE IN CALIFORNIA AND THEY WILL BE OUR ONSITE MANAGER.
SO, UM, UH, THEIR, THEIR STAFF WILL BE ONSITE.
UH, THEY WILL HELP PROCESS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENT OF THIS AS WELL AND HELP WITH THEIR LICENSING.
SO GOOD, VERY STRONG, UM, EXPERIENCED TEAM.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S REALLY THE CONCLUSION OF MY PRESENTATION.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING ME OUT TONIGHT.
AND, UM, AND UH, MYSELF, CHRISTOPHER AND DOUG ARE ALL AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT? IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND, UH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
UH, MATTHEW, ANYONE ELSE FROM YOUR TEAM WISH TO SPEAK OR DID YOU COVER IT FOR EVERYBODY? I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GOOD UNLESS THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC DESIGN QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT, UM, I THINK I'VE, I THINK THAT COVERS IT FOR EVERYONE.
AND THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WORK WITH THEM ALREADY, RIGHT? AND OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL? YES, WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM ON
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FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.SO NO QUESTIONS FOR MATTHEW OR HIS TEAM? IF NOT, I WILL.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM IN FAVOR, JEFF? NO, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS.
UM, JUST JUST TO REMIND YOU, WE DID HAVE THE EMAIL FROM MR. ROBERT TORRES, BUT OKAY.
AND, UH, ANY, ANY OPPOSITION SPEAKERS OR EMAILS OR ANYTHING WE HAD, WE RECEIVED NO, NO, UH, REQUEST OF PROPOSITION.
THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PORTION OF THE HEARING AND WE WILL GO TO COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST ON THIS OR SHOULD I JUST NAME A NAME? I CAN GO FIRST.
COMMISSIONER HALTS, GO AHEAD PLEASE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR CLOSE TO 12 YEARS AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST PROJECTS I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME WHERE THEY'VE MADE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM USE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WAS KIND OF AN, A WORD LOCATION, BUT IT'S A, IT'S QUALITY.
UH, THE RESIDENTS ARE FOR IT AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING TOO, BUT IT'S, IT'S IN A LOCATION THAT'S GOING TO BE QUITE QUIET.
YOU'VE GOT THE, THE WASH ON ONE SIDE AND BEHIND THE WASHER GOT A, UH, UH, NOT A CHURCH, BUT A MASONIC TEMPLE.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE FARM THAT'S THERE.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO NOISE THAT'S GONNA LEAK OUT OVER THERE AND VAN HORN AND THE OTHER.
AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALL FOR IT.
IT'S A QUALITY, QUALITY LOCATION.
AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THESE COME THROUGH, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST THAT I'VE SEEN IN MY TIME ON THE COMMISSION.
AND IT'S THE PEOPLE ARE VERY INTERESTED.
A MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS VERY INTERESTED DOING ALL THEY CAN TO GET THE PEOPLE'S OKAY.
AND I WAS AT ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS YOU HAD WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU BROUGHT THIS OUT AND I WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND I WAS WONDERING IF HE WAS GONNA I'M THROUGH WITH ALL THE THINGS YOU HAD PROMISED AND YOU HAVE ASIAN, YOU HAVE IN MY MY ESTIMATION.
UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A QUALITY ACT.
UH, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE CENTER CITY IF YOU WILL GET AWAY FROM THE NOISE AND THE IMPACT, BUT IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH WHERE YOU CAN GO SHOPPING AT MANY RESTAURANTS IN A VERY, UH, UH, SHORT ORDER.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S AGAIN, IT'S AN IDEAL LOCATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, BUT IT'S A QUALITY LOCATION AND I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK WITH THIS AND I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF IT.
UH, ONE THING THOUGH, WITH JEFF, UH, ANDERSON RETIRING, UH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER HIM MOVING IN THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
WE CAN PUT UP, BUT I'M GOING TO BE EVERY TIME IF THEY EVER HAVE THIS, UH, UH, PROJECT THAT'S REALLY EQUALITY, EQUALITY AND QUALITY LOCATION INEQUALITY, CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE A SPECIAL THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HALTS.
COMMISSIONER HOCK HAS YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS? YEAH, JUST BRIEFLY.
I JUST WANT TO, UM, UM, TO UH, SUPPORT, UH, EVERYTHING THAT COMMISSIONER HOLTZ HAD TO SAY, UM, FOR ALL THE SAME REASONS.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SORT OF HAVING MY OWN CONNECTION TO THIS INDUSTRY THROUGH MY WIFE'S WORK.
HE WORKS FOR A COMPANY THAT PROVIDES, UH, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, UH, BECOME VERY FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE BUSINESS OVER THE YEARS.
AND, UH, AGAIN, I, I WANT TO REITERATE WITH MR WHOLESALER, THIS IS DEFINITELY A QUALITY PROJECT AND, AND UH, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF WE SEE MORE OF THIS OCCURRING IN WEST COVINA AND IN THE REGION BECAUSE DIDN'T, UH, AS, UH, AS WE HEARD FROM, UH, THE APPLICANT, THE THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, THE MARKET IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AS THE BABY BOOMER GENERATION AGES AND IT'S VERY, VERY MUCH NEEDED A FACILITY AND SERVICES.
AND SO WE'RE HAPPY THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEING, IT'S GONNA OCCUR HERE ALONG WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON IN WEST CAMINO THAT ARE PROVIDING, UM, JUST, UH, AN A SENSE SUCH
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AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE AND SUCH A, A GREAT QUALITY ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND VERY, VERY PLEASED.AND I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THE QUALITY WORK YOU'VE DONE, UM, ON, UH, I'M PUTTING THIS PROJECT TOGETHER.
COMMISSIONER HOT KIDS? COMMISSIONER KENNEDY? YES SIR.
I THINK WE USED, I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE PROJECT CALLED THE WORK.
UM, ALL YOU'RE SHY HAD WAS THE PARKING, BUT UM, THAT'S ALL BEEN MET AND I, I HAVE NO ISSUES.
I WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK AND, UM, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
I'M, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
WELL, I SEE THAT THERE IS A NEED IN TERMS OF ASSISTANT LIVING AS THE AGING POPULATIONS IS COMING THROUGH.
HOWEVER, I I LIKED, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE DESIGN IS GOOD, BUT I LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF LIKE, UM, THERE'S A HUGE MATH AT VAN HORN IF POSSIBLE, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT I'M OKAY WITH IT.
UM, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE MATH AS WELL.
I MEAN IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT MASSIVE IN THAT AREA, BUT THE BEGIN, ONE SIDE IS THE WASH AND THE OTHER SIDE IS A BIG STREAK ON MY SIDE, SO I'M OKAY WITH IT AS WELL.
LET ME JUST, UH, MAKE A COUPLE OF BRIEF COMMENTS.
LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST REMIND ME, JOE, I HAVE A FIVE MINUTE LIMIT.
YEAH, THIS IS CHAIRMAN RED HALTS AND UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE WAY THIS DEVELOPER HAS GONE ABOUT THIS PROJECT FROM DAY ONE, THIS IS TEXTBOOK.
IF YOU WANT TO GET A PROJECT, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION, IF YOU WANT TO GET THE, THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ONBOARD WITH YOU, JUST DO WHAT THEY DID RIGHT FROM THE GET GO.
THEY HAD PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, UH, UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
THEY BROUGHT IN THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, THE MS OR MATTHEW WENT DOOR TO DOOR, LIKE YOU SAID, KNOCKING ON PEOPLE'S DOORS AND PRESENTING THE PROJECT AND SITTING DOWN WITH THEM.
AND THAT EFFORT PAYS OFF BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG DEAL ON THAT STREET.
IT'S A CHANGE AND TO HAVE, AND I REALLY REALIZE IT'S KIND OF A DIFFERENT SITUATION WITH THE WAY WE'RE DOING THINGS.
BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, NOBODY, UH, SENT A LETTER IN OPPOSITION, NOBODY IS SPEAKING AGAINST IT.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES IN, IN HOW TO GET OUT AND GET A PROJECT.
AND IT ALSO DOES HELP TO HAVE A QUALITY PROJECT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, I MEAN THE DESIGN, THE ARCHITECTURE IS PERFECT.
IT FITS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT'S GOING TO SIT.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN ON THAT AND IT LOOKS LIKE, I MEAN, I, I USED TO LIVE MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO IN ST LOUIS IN THE MIDWEST AREA AND THIS LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A MIDWESTERN, UH, YOU KNOW, HOTEL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IN ST LOUIS, I SAW A COUPLE OF THEM BACK THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS PERFECT.
AND THE WAY THEY LAID IT OUT AND DESIGNED IT, IT'S GONNA WORK.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, KUDOS TO THEM FOR GOING ABOUT IT THE WAY THEY DID AND UH, YOU KNOW, THE VARIANCES MAKE SENSE TO ME.
I UNDERSTAND IT AND I SEE THE NEED FOR IT AND, UH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A QUALITY PROJECT.
SO, UH, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COMMENT I WILL GO AHEAD AND, UH, UH,
IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I FORGOT TO MENTION.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY MENTIONED IT, BUT BEING THAT THIS IS A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY, THEY ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO MEDICAL FACILITIES, UH, WITH THE HOSPITAL THERE AND IT'S JUST A SHORT RUN.
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, VERY CRITICAL.
AND I THINK THAT OUGHT TO BE INCLUDED IN A MINUTE.
SO IS APPROPRIATE NOT TO HAVE THE RESOLUTION NUMBERS READ A DIRECTOR ANDERSON? YES, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.
THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WHICH IS 20 DASH SIX OH THREE TO THE NEXT WOULD BE PRECISE.
THE PRECISE PLAN, WHICH IS 20 DASH SIX OH THREE THREE FOLLOWED BY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS 20 DASH SIX OH THREE FOUR AND THE VARIANCE, WHICH IS 20 DASH SIX OH THREE FIVE.
AND I ALSO WOULD REMIND YOU THAT WE DID REQUEST A MODIFICATION FOR THOSE TWO CONDITIONS.
SO THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE, UH, IN THE UH, MOTION.
AND THOSE ARE FOR THE PRECISE PLAN OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
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YES.COMMISSIONERS ARE GOOD WITH THAT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THESE PLEASE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLTZ.
IS THERE A SECOND? UH, OF COURSE YOUR HOCKEY HAS.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY HOLTZ A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOCK HAS, MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? YES.
JUST ONE EYE AND IT SEEMS TO WORK FINE.
SO THE MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THOSE INVOLVED.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING THAT PROJECT GO UP AND TO GET FILLED UP AND IT TO BE A, YOU KNOW, A, A, A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
WE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO WEST COVINA AND CONGRATULATIONS VERY MUCH.
YOU'RE REALLY WONDERFUL DIRECTOR.
I UNDERSTAND THAT DIRECTOR ANDERSON, JUST A COUPLE OF BUSY WORK THINGS.
THAT WAS THE MOTION AS AMENDED BY THE, BY THE CONDITIONS AND COMMISSIONER RED HOLES ON THE NEXT PAGE THAT YOU MAY WANT TO COVER THE 10 DAY APPEAL PERIOD JUST FOR YES, YES, YES I WAS.
I WAS GETTING, YEAH, THIS, THIS DECISION IS FINAL UNLESS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS.
I THINK I ACTUALLY EXCUSED THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE CALL FOR THAT R D ENGINEER AHMAD, SORRY.
WHO WAS THERE FOR THAT ITEM AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, KEVIN FARRIER AND THE THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE APPLICANTS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU TUNING IN TO THIS TONIGHT.
IS THE, UH, IS THE CITY ATTORNEY STILL ON? I AM HERE, BUT YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN ME WORK TO DO NOTHING TO DO.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO FOUR GENERAL EXEMPTION WIDE.
MR MADISON WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT ON THIS OR PLANNING MANAGER.
JOANNE BURNS WILL BE PRESENTING THE REPORT AND WE'VE GOT TO DO SOME COVERT CLEANING.
SO GIVE US A SECOND BEFORE SHE STARTS HER REPORT.
MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AT HOME.
UM, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 ZERO FOUR, UM, REGARDING THE RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND HERE TO BEGIN WITH.
UM, ON FEBRUARY 25 2020, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD THE STUDY SESSION, UM, IN ITS INITIATED CODE AMENDMENT 20 DASH ZERO FOUR.
UM, AT DURING THE STUDY SESSION, THE PLAN COMMISSION WAS DISCUSSING THE STATE MATT, UM, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT MANDATE AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT CHANGES TO THE
ALTHOUGH THIS IS THE CASE, UM, THIS
UM, ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE, THE DRESS CODE OR CODE AMENDMENT IS TO SECTION 26 DASH SIX TO TWO AND SECTIONS WHEN YOU SIX DASH 62, I'M SORRY, IN SECTION 26 DASH THREE NINE ONE SAID SUBSECTION TWO, A DEFINITION WAS ADD ADDED FOR UM, HABITABLE BONUS ROOMS, BUT INSTEAD OF CALLING THEM HABITABLE BONUS
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ROOMS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT NAME BE CHANGED TO NON HABITABLE BONUS ROOMS INSTEAD.UM, THE DEFINITION OF NON HABITABLE BONUS ROOM WOULD BE ED DETACHED STRUCTURE USED FOR PRIVATE RECREATIONAL PURPOSES, ACCESSORY TO A RESIDENTIAL USE WITH, WITH ITS OWN SEPARATE EXTERIOR ENTRANCE OR ACCESS.
AND UM, STANDARDS WERE ALSO ADDED FOR NON HABITABLE BONUS ROOMS, WHICH, WHICH IS UM, IT'S LIMITED TO 200 SQUARE FEET.
HABITABLE BONUS ROOM IS ALLOWED PER LOTS, NO INTERIOR BATHROOM OR NO KITCHEN.
UM, IT HAS TO BE CITED BEHIND THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
IT HAS TO BE CITED 10 FEET AWAY FROM ANOTHER STRUCTURE AND YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE AN HABITABLE BONUS ROOM IF THEY HAVE AN EIGHT 80 U OR J ATU ON THEIR PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT STANDARDS, UM, AND LIMITS TO THE NON HABITABLE AND NON HABITABLE BONELESS ROOMS WOULD HAVE TO BE AGREED UPON THROUGH A COVENANT THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE RECORDED AT THE COUNTY RECORDER'S OFFICE.
UM, ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS CHANGED IS REGARDING UM, ADDING ON TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES OR HOMES, UH, THAT ARE NOT, UH, THAT DO NOT HAVE A GARAGE OR HAVE A NON COMPLIANT GARAGE.
UM, CURRENTLY EXISTING GARAGES ARE ALLOWED TO BE CONVERTED INTO 80 ADU WITHOUT REPLACEMENT.
SO WEST COVINA WAS MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES FOUR PARKING SPACES, TWO IN WHICH IS GOING TO BE AS REQUESTED, BE CONTAINED IN THE GARAGE.
AND TO UNCOVERED FOR ALL HEALTH FOR ALL HOUSES CONSTRUCTED AFTER, UM, JANUARY 1ST, 1993.
UM, AND THE, THIS JANUARY 1ST, 1993 DATE WILL BE REMOVED OR HAS BEEN REMOVED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, HOUSE ADDITIONS ARE LIMITED TO UM, 300 SQUARE FEET FOR RESIDENTS WITH NO GARAGE OR NONCONFORMING GARAGE OR NONCONFORMING PARKING.
SO BASICALLY IF THEY HAVE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A GARAGE, THEY OR THEY DON'T HAVE NO, IF THE PARKING IS NOT, UM, FOR ME AND THEY WANT TO ADD MORE THAN 300 SQUARE FEET, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADD A GARAGE OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE ROOM.
UM, SO THAT UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS COMPLIED WITH.
ANOTHER SECTION THAT WAS CHANGED WAS SECTION 26 DASH FOUR ZERO 2.6 SUBSECTION B TWO AND ALSO SUBJECT SECTION E.
CURRENTLY THE MAXIMUM DRIVEWAY WHICH IS BASED ON THE WIDTH OF THE GARAGE PLUS 12 FEET.
SINCE THE ADU ORDINANCE NOW REQUIRES GARAGES OR ALLOWED GARAGES TO BE CONVERTED INTO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHOUT REPLACEMENT, SOME PROPERTIES ARE LEFT WITHOUT GARAGES.
SO IN THIS CASE, THE MAXIMUM DRIVEWAY WITH IS NOW 20 FEET OR HAS BEEN, YOU'RE IN AS 20 FEET IF THERE IS NO GARAGE ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT HOWEVER, IF THERE IS A GARAGE ON THE PROPERTY THAT HAS NOT CHANGED, IT'S STILL THE WIDTH OF THE GARAGE PLUS 12 FEET.
ANOTHER CHANGE, ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WAS DONE IS THAT, UM, IS FOR A SECOND STORY.
SETBACKS, UM, WITH THE DRESS CODE REQUIRES TWO STORY SETBACKS FOR STRUCTURES WITH FIXER WALL HEIGHTS, UM, GREATER THAN 12 FEET INFRASTRUCTURES WITH AN OVERALL HEIGHT GREATER THAN 16 FEET.
SO, UM, THE REASON FOR THIS IS, UM, SO THAT, UM, TALL STRUCTURES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TOWER OVER, UM, NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES OR OVER STREET CAUSE, UH, CAUSE SOME, UM, UM, STRUCTURES ARE, UH, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW ARE ALLOWED TO BE LIKE 16 FOOT TALL, THE FLAT ROOF.
UM, KIND OF LIKE THE DIAGRAM OR THE PICTURE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN AND THEY, AND THEY, UM, THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED A FIVE FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS A SINGLE STORY STEP BACK.
SO IN THIS CASE, UM, WE'RE INCREASING THAT TO A TWO STORY STEP BACK IN, UM, TO THE RIGHT.
UM, RIGHT ALONG HERE IS A DEPICTION OF WHAT AN EXTERIOR WALL HEIGHT OF 12 FEET IS, UM, IN RELATION TO A 16 FOOT OVERHAUL OVERALL BUILDING HEIGHT.
ANOTHER SECTION THAT WAS CHANGED WAS THE SECTION PERTAINING TO ANIMAL KEEPING OVER THE ANIMAL KEEPING OVERLAY ZONE.
UM, IN THIS SECTION IT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION.
UM, THE CODE CLARIFIES THAT BONUS ROOMS PROPOSED
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ON LOWER FILLER PAD AREA PROPERTIES AND ANIMAL KEEPING OVERLAY ON REQUIRED AT ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT.UM, SO BASICALLY, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, CURRENTLY IF THEY ARE, IF, IF YOU'RE IN THE ANIMAL KEEPING OVERLAY ZONE AND YOU'RE, YOU HAVE LIKE A GUEST HOUSE OR, OR SOME TYPE OF UM, UM, HABITABLE STRUCTURE ON THE LOWER PAD AREA OR YOU WANT TO PROPOSE ONE EIGHT REQUIRES, UM, AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT BECAUSE WE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LIMIT BECAUSE IF, IF THEY DO HAVE HABITABLE SPACE OR NOT, UM, OR SIMILAR SPACE ON THE LOWER PAD AREA, THEY, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP HORSES ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH THE ANIMAL KEEPING OVERLIGHT OVERLAY ZONE IS DESIGNED FOR.
WITH THIS STAFF RECOMMENDED THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ADOPT A RESOLUTION, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO FOUR TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS, JEFF AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE COMMISSION? IF SO, IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
YES, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER HOLTZ.
I THINK WE HAVE A CODE AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW IN A CITY THAT YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE THREE DOGS.
IS THAT CORRECT MR. ANDERSON? DIRECTOR ANDERSON RETIRE RIGHT? HE WAS ON YOU.
MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DIRECT TO EDISON.
THEY TRIED TO SHUT ME UP REALLY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, BEFORE I WAS REALLY LEAVING.
UM, THE, THE, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT'S THREE OR FOUR DOGS, BUT THERE DEFINITELY IS A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF DOGS AND CATS THAT CAN BE, THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE HOUSE.
UH, WITH THIS, UH, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, UH, IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE THAT OR WOULD IT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE LIKE THREE PETS ON IT? UM, IT WOULDN'T, IT WILL NOT CHANGE THAT.
WHAT? THEY WILL NOT CHANGE IT.
SO THAT'LL APPLY TO THOSE TWO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF FROM THE COMMISSION HEARING? NONE.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY BUT HE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS FOR AGAINST STAFF.
I WAS TOLD BY THE CITY CLERK THAT WE, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UM, REQUEST FOR PUBLIC, UM, WRITTEN COMMENTS.
THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC, UH, TESTIMONY PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL GO FOR A COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST ON THIS SIDE? I'M EITHER DISCUSSION OR, UH, AND OR EMOTION ON THIS ITEM.
UM, I GO THAT WE APPROVE THIS MOTION.
YOU WANNA YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YES.
CAN WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION NUMBER? WE HAVE A MOTION TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A SECOND.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS EARLIER WAS HE GOT INTO THE UM, THE PARKING ISSUES, WE JUST APPROVED A EARLIER, SO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND APPARENTLY THE GARAGE WAS CONCERNING ISSUES RIGHT NOW THAT THEY CONVERTED THE GARAGE TO AN ADU, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY STATE CODE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE BECOMES, YOU CAN SAY TWO UNITS OR DUPLEX AND, BUT NO GARAGE WAS ONE BIG DRIVEWAY AREA THAT THEY CAN PARK WAS THIS PARTICULAR LIMITATION HERE THAT WAS SAYING DRIVEWAY WITHOUT A GARAGE.
BUT I WOULDN'T ONLY CALL ME FOOTAGE OF PARKING, BUT THAT'S REALLY ONLY LIMITED TO THE DUPLEX,
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THE ONLY TWO CAR GARAGE TWO TO TWO COSTING SPACE IN A GARAGE.I GUESS MY THING IS THAT WITH THIS PARTICULAR CALL RIGHT NOW, WELL TO SOME EXTENT WE HAVE TO KIND OF MITIGATE BUT WHAT TYPE OF CODES THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.
AND ALSO I'LL BE LIMITING ALL RESIDENTS WHO HAVE MORE PARKING SPACES OFF STREET PARKING SPACE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IN SOME OF OUR IMMUNO COMMISSIONERS WAS CONCERNED IN THE PAST BICKERING THAT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON THE STREET.
HOWEVER, IF WE'RE NOT, WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF 80 YEAR OLDS ARE LOUD AND THEY'RE CONVERTING ALL THE GARAGES TO ADU AND THERE'S NO, THAT PARTICULAR LOT HAS NO FUDGE.
AND IF WE LIMIT THIS 20 FOOT, THAT'S THE ONLY REALLY TWO PARKING.
BUT THAT'S, LET'S JUST SAY EACH UNIT AND HOUSED IN AN ADU THAT CAN GO UP TO 1200 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, WHICH IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAXIMUM IS A THREE BEDROOM.
THE ONLY IS HAVING TWO PARKING, WHICH, WHICH FAMILY HAS TWO CAR, FOUR SPACE TWO WILL BE ON THE STREET.
SO AS COMMISSIONERS IN THIS PARTICULAR COBRA HERE, I KNOW, I MEAN IT'S A LONG NIGHT, BUT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND I DO HAVE A CONCERN WITH FUTURE PARKING ISSUES AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, NOT NECESSARILY ISSUE, BUT A CONCERN REGARDING PARKING AND HOW THE PARKING WILL IMPACT THE CITY AND THE PARKING THE STREET BECAUSE THE WHOLE BLOCK WILL CHANGE.
BUT BECAUSE OF, UM, ANY DEPARTMENT, WHAT THE STAFF HAD MENTIONED THAT PREDOMINANTLY RIGHT NOW MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE PROJECT THAT COMES IN IS THESE QUESTING FOR THE ADU.
SO WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, EVEN WITH COLBERT 19 AT ALL, WE ALMOST HAVE MORE REQUESTS FOR ADU FOR THE WHOLE YEAR OF LAST YEAR.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A VERY POPULAR EVENT AND I LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
PERHAPS COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP THE FUTURE HELPS TO HAVE MORE POCKETS ON THE ENCOURAGE TO HAVE HUGGING BUILT ON THE, ON THE LOT ITSELF BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO TWO CONCERNING ISSUES.
THAT ONE, IT JUST TALKING SIZE, UM, 20 FEET, 20 FEET ONLY HAS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY PUMP IF THAT IS THE CASE.
THEN REALLY THE OTHER TWO CARS, IF THEY HAVE FULL CARS, UNLESS EVERYONE TAKING A OR DRIVE OR A WALKING, THEN THE OTHER TWO CARS IS GOING TO BE ON THE STREET.
AND THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ISSUE WITH IS REGARDING THE TWO STORIES AND THE 12 FOOT AND THE 16 FEET HEIGHTS FOR THE ADU, WHICH IS THE SECOND STORY IN, YOU KNOW, BUT THE HIGH STRIKE THAT REALLY WE ONLY ENCOURAGING ONE SINGLE STORY.
AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, YOU CANNOT ADD A GARAGE ON THE BOTTOM AND THEN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BUILD ON TOP TO HAVE LIKE LIVABLE SPACE ON TOP AND LAND IS SCARCE NOW.
AND BUT ADDING MORE UNITS ON IT, IT MAKES IT EVEN WORSE THAN, THAN THERE'S NO BAR FOR PARKING.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO AT LEAST ADDRESS AN ISSUES AND HOPEFULLY I'LL, COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR ALL FUTURE RESIDENTS AND WHAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR CITY WITH THE ADU ISSUES OR ISSUES.
UM, THE IMPACT OF ADU IS ON ALL CITY.
THEY'RE GOING TO UNMUTE THEMSELVES.
SO, UM, FOR UM, MISS, UM, COMMISSIONER HANGS FIRST POINT REGARDING THE, THE DRIVEWAY WITH UM, BEING LIMITED, COMMITTING PARKING TO JUST TWO PARKING SPACES.
UM, IT WOULD BE, UM, IT'S TRUE THAT IT LIMIT PARKING TO TWO PARKING SPACES IF IT'S, IF THE CARS ARE PARKED SIDE BY SIDE.
HOWEVER, IT ALSO DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THE DRIVE WEIGHT OF THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS.
SO, UM, A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE GARAGES THAT ARE BEING CONVERTED INTO ADU ARE, ARE WHERE YARD GARAGES AND SO THEY HAVE A DRIVEWAY WITH, THAT'S ALMOST THE LENGTH OF OR THE LENGTH OF THE DEPTH OF THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THERE ARE LIKE MORE THAN, UM, I WOULD SAY LIKE 60 FEET DEEP.
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THAT INSTANCE IT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UM, SIX, SIX VEHICLES OR EVEN, AND SOMETIMES EVEN MORE.UM, THERE ARE PROPERTIES WITH GARAGES IN THE FRONT, UM, THAT ARE BEING CONVERTED INTO JUNIOR, UM, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN ADU IN, IN THOSE CASES? UM, YES, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO TWO CARS AS FAR AS ONSITE PARKING IS CONCERNED.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT CODE, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED CAVE AREA, UM, ON THE CURRENT, UM, THAT THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS IS THE WIDTH OF THE EXISTING GARAGE PLUS PLUS 12 FEET.
SO IF THE GARAGE IS CONVERTED INTO AN ADU, THEN THEN, UM, THEN THE PROPERTY WOULD NOT HAVE A GARAGE.
SO THERE, THERE WOULDN'T, THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED ANY PAVING IN, IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
SO THERE WOULD BE NO, NO ALLOWABLE PARKING SPACE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE WITHOUT THIS CODE CHANGE.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST DOING EVERYTHING BY POLICY.
UM, SINCE, SINCE, UM, WE DON'T, UM, WE HAVEN'T DONE THE DAKOTA AMENDMENT YET.
UH, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, HANK BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS, BUT WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIKE A JET SKIS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT OR WHAT ARE WE LIKE ON THIS PROJECT OR NOT? PROJECT WAS ON THIS, UH, UH, THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT ABOUT IF THEY PARKED JET SKIS IN ONE OF THEIR SPOTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO JET, JET SKIS AND UM, JET SKIS ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE PARKED IN, IN UM, IN THE SIDE YARD.
UH, THEY MADE HEARTS JET SKIS IN THE FRONT YARD.
UM, ONLY IF THEY ARE APPROVED THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT PROCESS.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE SEND OUT NEIGHBOR NOTIFICATION.
UM, AND IF THERE, IF THE JET SKI IS TAKING UP PARKING SPACE THAT UM, THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE PROPERTY HAVING NO PARKING.
UM, ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT PROCESS.
SO IF I, IF I'M JUST A SINGLE RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, TYPE THING THAT THERE WAS, I DON'T HAVE TWO CARS AND I PARKED MY, ONE OF MY CARS THERE AND IT'S THE OTHER ONE TO BE JET SKIS OR THEY STILL HAVE TO BE IN THE SIDE YARD.
IT'S STILL CURRENTLY BUY, RIGHT.
IT HAS TO BE ON THE SIDE YARD.
I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MISUSE THAT.
THEY ALWAYS HAVE AND THEY STILL ARE.
BUT UH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE SO THEY CODE ENFORCEMENT'S GOT SOME TEETH.
UM, WE DO HAVE A SEPARATE SEPARATE SECTION IN THE CODE REGARDING, UM, UM, RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKING.
UM, AND WHICH INCLUDES DESKY AND, UM, IN RVS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSION COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I DON'T HEAR ANY.
SO WE UH, REVERT BACK TO THE, THERE WAS A MOTION ON THIS BY KENNEDY.
WHO IS THAT CORRECT? COMMISSIONER KENNEDY COMMITTEE.
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, AND YOU CAN ADD ON TO THE PARKING ISSUES.
CAUSE YOU HAD MENTIONED IN THE PAST THAT UM, THE AREA, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD SOME CONCERNS, YOU GOT HIM PARKING.
I LIKE TO SEE IF HE HAS, WELL MY ISSUES ARE ALWAYS, PARKING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE.
AND WHEN YOU BUILD PROJECTS OR YOU HAVE PROJECTS, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, UM, UH, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE WE NEVER HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
NOW IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HALLS AND THAT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ONTO YOUR GARAGE, REMEMBER THERE'S NO RESTRICTION TO PARKING IN THE STREET.
SO THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT PARKING.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TURN YOUR DRIVE UNTIL, UH, ANOTHER ROOM, THEN YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GIVE UP SOMETHING.
SO, UM, THE PARK IN THE STREET, UM, VERY, VERY, VERY FEW STREETS ARE RESTRICTED.
SO I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES HERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE COMMISSION
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HEARING? NONE.SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY KENNEDY.
IS THERE A SECOND TO KENNEDY'S MOTION? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, MR. OKAY, GO AHEAD.
I HAVE COMMISSIONER HANK WANTING TO TABLE THIS TILL, TILL THE NEXT MEETING OR W OR LATER FOR DISCUSSION.
DO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION? NO, I'M JUST SAYING I'M GIVING HER THE OPTION.
WELL YOU HAVE A MOTION AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THE MOTION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A MOTION BY KENNEDY.
MAYBE WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION NUMBER PLEASE.
YES, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.
THE RESOLUTION NUMBER WOULD BE 20 DASH SIX OH THREE SIX.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THE RESOLUTION NUMBER HAS BEEN RED.
MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE ON THE MOTION PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER HOLT? NO, WITH SAYING THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE TALK ON THIS RATHER THAN A QUICK VOTE.
AND JUST, I THINK THEY'RE JUST AS COMMISSIONER KENNEDY HAD SAID, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE WITH, WITH THE HOMES GOING IN AND EVERYBODY BEING ABLE TO DO BASICALLY WHAT THEY WANT.
IT'S JUST GOING TO IMPACT THE PARKING.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON IT.
UM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO WITHDRAW MY VOTE AND CHANGE IT? I LIKE TO CHANGE MY BOAT CONTENT.
IS THAT, I GUESS THAT'S OKAY, ISN'T IT? I THINK IT'S OKAY.
SO, ALRIGHT, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD KENNEDY.
IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS MORE, I'LL, I'LL WITHDRAW IT AND LET'S DISCUSS IT FURTHER MEETING.
SO YOU'RE WITHDRAWING YOUR MOTION.
I'LL, I'LL, YES, I WILL, I WILL DRAW IT OUT FOR SO WE COULD HAVE THIS ON FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO WHAT TABLE IT IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE? IS THAT THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT? TYPE TABLE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
YOU CAN CON, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
UH, USUALLY THAT WOULD TAKE IT.
UH, YOU WOULD SET A, UH, A DATE FOR IT TO COME BACK.
UH, IF YOU TABLE IT, THERE'S NO DATE FOR IT TO COME BACK.
AND THEN WE'D NEED AN ENTITY THEN WE WOULD NEED TO RE NOTICE IT.
WE NEED TO PUT IT BACK ON THE PAPER IF WE, IF IT'S NOT THE DATE, SIR.
NOTICING THE TABLING OR THE, I DIDN'T GET THAT.
WELL, LET, LET ME, LET ME ALSO SAY A FEW THINGS HERE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN, UH, SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO DO HERE IS SEPARATE, UH, THIS ARE ONE STANDARDS, UH, DISCUSSION FROM ANY ADU DISCUSSION CAUSE THIS ISN'T ABOUT ADU.
THIS IS ABOUT, UH, THIS IS ABOUT THE STANDARDS WE HAVE IN THE CODE THAT WE HAVE TO REACT TO BASED ON STATE LAW CHANGES.
SO, UH, I GUESS I WANT TO WARN YOU THAT, UH, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU WANT TO DISCUSS 80 USE AND WHAT THEIR IMPLICATIONS ON PARKING IS.
THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT THIS CODE, THIS CODE IS ABOUT.
WE HAVE ANOTHER CODE AMENDMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD ON USE AND THAT WOULD BE THE TIME THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN OR CAN'T DO WITH 80 USE.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T CONTINUE THIS AND ASK FOR MORE CLARIFICATION, BUT I DO WANT TO WARN YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS, THIS CODE AMENDMENT IS NOT ABOUT ADU.
THIS IS ABOUT ARWEN STANDARDS AND, AND WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO WITH THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, UH, GIVEN OTHER TYPES OF, UH, THINGS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, WHAT IS THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE? DO WE STILL WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH TABLING THIS OR DO WE WANT TO UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS NOT REALLY AN ADU DISCUSSION WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WILL COME LATER? DO YOU WANT TO, UH, WHAT'S THE COMMISSIONS PLEASURE.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION AGAIN OR DO YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH TABLING? OH, HELLO COMMISSIONER.
I THINK I LIKED TO BE ABLE TO TABLE IT AND HAVE A DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE SOME MORE THOUGHTS AND MAYBE HAVE SOME INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL IF HE, IF HE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO THAT WITH THE COVERT 19
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AND WHAT HAVE YOU.AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO, HOW LONG WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PHONE, UM, A LONG TIME.
BUT IF YOU CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPENING.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS COMMISSIONER HOUSE, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE, THE ANSWER WILL BE WITH, UH, WITH THE, UH, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, THAT'S FINE.
BUT NOW THAT I HEAR THAT THE, UH, UH, THIS IS GOING TO COME ABOUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
JEFF, WHAT'S THE NEAR FUTURE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? I'LL LET PLANNING MANAGER BURNS.
WHAT SHE'S WORKING ON THE
DO YOU HAVE A DATE ON THAT AT THIS POINT? I'M AT THIS POINT, WE DID NOT HAVE A DATE ON THAT.
WE ARE WAITING FOR RESPONSE FROM THE STATE.
WE DID, UM, IN JANUARY WE SENT THE STATE THE CITIES, UM, URGENCY ORDINANCE, A COPY OF THE CITY'S URGENCY ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO ADU AND WE ARE WAITING FOR THE STATE TO COMMENT ON THE CITY'S CODE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS AND BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR, FOR, UM, ANY CHANGES, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, DO ANOTHER STUDY SESSION TO DISCUSS THE COMMENTS THAT THE STATE HAS PROVIDED.
BUT AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THE STATE.
I THEN I RECOMMEND MAYBE WE DO A STUDY SESSION ON IT.
PARDON? WELL, THAT WAS A COMMISSIONER I GUESS, GO AHEAD.
I THINK FOR ALL OUR BENEFIT, THE NICE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE OF, UM, SOME CONFUSION IN MY READING, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF REPORT HERE, THE BACKGROUND DOES READ THAT, UM, CODE AMENDMENT 21 ZERO FOUR WAS BROUGHT FORTH, DOES THE STATE'S ADA MANDATE.
UM, AND ALTHOUGH THIS QUOTE AMANDA IS UNRELATED TO THE ADU ORDINANCE, SO YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ADVISING US THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE ADU ORDINANCE.
IT IS, THIS CODE OF MINUTE WAS BROUGHT FORTH, BROUGHT FORTH BECAUSE OF THE STATE'S ADU MANDATE.
AND FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IN SECTION 26,
THIS IS, THIS IS PLAYING DIRECTOR ANDERSON.
UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT, HOW YOU STATED IT'S AS A RESULT OF, IT'S NOT ABOUT ADS, IT'S AS A RESULT OF STATE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT SEPARATION.
AND TO BE CLEAR, WE WANT TO MAKE THAT SEPARATION BECAUSE ANY CHANGES TO THE ADU ORDINANCE IN OUR ORDINANCE, WE HAVE A SECTION ABOUT 80 YEARS.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ADU ORDINANCE, THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN.
WE DON'T NEED TO MEET ANYTHING THAT MIGHT PERTAIN TO SOMETHING THAT HAS AN ADU ON IT.
BUT ANYTHING THAT PERTAINS TO THE ADU ORDINANCE WE HAVE TO SEND TO THE STATE.
SO THE TRADER IS FOR A FEED, COULD, COULD BE A RESULT OF AN 82 EDITION OR, OR SOME OTHER ADDITION.
SO, UM, BUT, BUT THE END RESULT IS IT COULD, UH, IT COULD AFFECT THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT CAN BE PROVIDED ON THAT PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF THAT ADDITION.
AND SO I, UM, I, AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS AN BIT OF AN INDIRECT CONNECTION TO 80, USE THE LEFT RATING AS WE ARE STARTING TO SEE, UH, I THINK, AND THAT'S THE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LANE.
SO COMMITTEE, UM, I THINK I WOULD MIND MY IS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM AND IF IT MEANS HAVING TO PUBLISH THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN, YOU KNOW, STILL BE AT CONTINUE TO SIGN BECAUSE MY, MY CONCERN, I THINK IF I SHARE THIS WITH COMMISSIONER HANG IS THAT THE PROLIFERATION OF 80 USE BEING ONE SUBSET OF ADDICTIONS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE ON PROPERTIES IS GOING TO TRIGGER, UH, AN ISSUE WITH PARKING.
UH, AND, AND VEHICLES BEING PUSHED OUT ONTO THE STREET IN RATHER LARGE NUMBERS POTENTIALLY.
AND THAT IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE, UH, FOR THE SAY THAT THE DOES CONCERN ME.
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AND THE FACT THAT THE STATE IS, UH, FORCIBLY IMPOSING, YOU KNOW, UM, DENSIFICATION OF, OF, UH, OF, UM, OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH THE, WITH THE ADU LAW STATE MANDATE AND THAT SEPARATE A SEPARATE GRADE THERE.UH, BUT THAT IS CONCERNED OF HOW IT AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
YOU KNOW, SUDDENLY A STREET THAT YOU DIDN'T EXPERIENCE A LOT OF ON STREET PARKING.
UH, SUDDENLY YOU GOT A, ON A STREET ON A CLOSE SECOND STREET WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH UH, 30 HOMES AND, AND HALF LOAM CERTAINLY HAVE, UM, HAVE GOT PERMITS FOR 80 USE AND THOSE 15, THERE'S 15 PERMITS ARE, CAN RESULT IN 30 MORE CARS PARKED ON THE STREET.
THAT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD GIVE IT SOME TIME TO ADDRESS THIS IN DUE REGARD.
YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO 80 YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE IN A SIDE EFFECT, A SIDE EFFECT.
I'M COMING AND I'M HOPING WE CAN CONTINUE IT FOR THAT REASON.
IT'S A BIPRODUCT THAT'S FOR SURE.
IT'S, IT'S A REACTION TO, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT, UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT A GREAT BIG RUSH ON THIS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY COME INTO PLAY IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO WHEN WE GET GETTING THINGS THERE.
ALSO, AS, AS I, I LIKE THE WAY THAT COMMISSIONER HUCK HAS PUT IT THIS, THIS IS A SUBSET OF ISSUES.
WE DO HAVE HOUSES IN THE CITY THAT LEGALLY HAVE NO GARAGE.
THERE ARE A CERTAIN MINORITY NUMBER OF CASES OUT THERE THAT ARE LIKE THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ONLY HAVE ONE CAR GARAGE.
SO THOSE ALSO WOULD APPLY IN THOSE CASES AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS A CASE WHERE A GARAGE MAY HAVE BEEN DESTROYED OR BURNED DOWN OR SOME OTHER ISSUE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER SITUATIONS BESIDE THAT AND I STAFF IS NOT HERE TO SUGGEST THAT, UH, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE, WHAT THE STATE DID FOR THE, UH, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT LAW.
I THINK YOU HAVE ALL HEARD US DISCUSS THAT.
UH, WE ARE REACTING TO NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT PROMOTING THAT OR THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT THE STATE IS PROMOTING IT AND OTHER CITIES ARE PROMOTING IT.
SO THAT WORD IS OUT THERE THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT THE GENIE BACK IN THE BOTTLE AT THIS POINT.
SO, UM, BUT I THINK IF YOU WANT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
I THINK THE OPTION WOULD BE TO CONTINUE TO INDEFINITELY.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT, I THINK THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR FURTHER INFORMATION FROM STAFF THAT WE NEED TO RESEARCH.
IF YOU JUST WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON IT, FURTHER DISCUSSION, IT COULD BE CONTINUED TO THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY AND YOU CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE SO FAR I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY UH, REQUESTS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.
JUST THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S MAYBE HELPING TO MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD TONIGHT.
I FOR ONE, THIS IS CHAIRMAN REYNOLDS.
I'D LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION MYSELF.
I GUESS FOR THE COMMISSION THAT I LOOKED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM INDEFINITELY AS WE REQUEST AND REQUEST MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF ON OPTIONS FOR ADDRESSING, UM, UH, THE TWO SUBSECTIONS THAT RELATE TO, YOU KNOW, ON STREET AND UH, OR, OR PARKING ON, UH, PROPERTIES OR STREET PARKING.
IT'S CALLED OFF STREET PARKING COMMISSIONER AND DRIVEWAYS.
YOUR ATTORNEY, UM, JEFF, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE RE NOTICING IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CONTINUING IT TO A DATE CERTAIN YEAH, WE CAN RE NOTICE THERE'S A COST.
BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THAT IS THERE'S A COST TO THE CITY.
IT'S SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT, BUT IT'S NOT DIFFICULT TO DO BECAUSE WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH A FUTURE DATE WHEN YOU THINK STAFF WILL BE READY.
AND IF FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT READY FOR THAT MEETING, WE CAN DO A FURTHER CONTINUANCE.
WE COULD JUST, WE COULD JUST CONTINUE IT TO, WE HAVE TO PICK A DATE.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT IF THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO A DATE CERTAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THAT JUNE 23RD OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION THEN.
THEN MY MAKER OF THE MOTION, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
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CITY ATTORNEY SUGGESTED THAT COULD BE FURTHER CONTINUED TO THAT POINT IF NECESSARY.DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THIS HERB? I MEAN JEFF, DO I HAVE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION JUST LIKE YOU DID AS DIRECTOR? YEAH, I HEARD THAT.
OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER KENNEDY, ARE YOU SECONDING HOCK HAS MOTION? ABSOLUTELY.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL A DATE.
CERTAIN JUNE 23RD MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL ON THE MOTION, PLEASE? YES.
SO THE MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO THE ITEM IS CONTINUED TIL JUNE 23RD THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? WE'RE ON A ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A NON-HEARING ITEM.
THEY REQUEST TO INITIATE A CODE, A MAN PLAN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NUMBER ONE, PD A PD ONE, WHICH IS THE WOODSIDE VILLAGE AREA.
SO MAYBE WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT.
YES, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.
UM, WE HAVE A CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICT CALLED PLAN COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT NUMBER ONE.
ONE, IT'S THE WOODSIDE VILLAGE AREA, WHICH IS A GOOD PORTION OF THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY FROM ABOUT THE BKK AREA.
WELL, EVEN FOR THE NORTH OF AFRICA, ABOUT THE, UH, FAIR GROVE STREET AREA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, UM, LA FUENTE ROAD.
IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF AREA AND IT WAS A DEVELOPMENT KIND OF CONCEPT THAT WAS PUT OUT IN THE SEVENTIES AND, AND ADOPTED.
AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY UPDATED THE WORDING.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CONCERN, UH, IN GENERAL ON THE STANDARDS.
IT'S THE WORDING AND THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP AND ALSO THAT IT'S A RESOLUTION AND NOT AN ORDINANCE, SO IT'S NOT IN THE CODE.
SO THAT CAUSES LOTS OF PEOPLE CONCERNED.
THEY'RE CALLING US, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KNOW WHAT ZONING STANDARDS.
SO IT DOES CAUSE SOME CONFUSION IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND WITH UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA AT THIS POINT, SOME 40 YEARS, SOME ODD LATER TO ZONING, NO HURRY, BUT PUT THAT IN THE, IN THE ZONING CODE AND WRITE IT, UH, WHAT WOULD BE MORE STANDARD ZONING LANGUAGE.
SO THAT STAFF IS SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THINKING THAT RIGHT NOW THE WAY THINGS ARE WITH COVERT, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO BE DOING SOME DRAFTING AND TO PROVIDE SOME, UM, SOME GOOD BENEFIT TO THE CITY, UH, WITH THE TIME THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, UH, TILL TILL WE'RE ABLE TO OPEN THE DOORS AGAIN.
SO THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING IT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND IF WE WOULD, WE WOULD REQUEST, UH, THERE IS A RESOLUTION, A RESOLUTION THAT'S ATTACHED TO THAT.
SO WE WOULD REQUEST A MOTION TO SECOND AND A VOTE ON THAT RESOLUTION.
AND I ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS THAT WE RECEIVED.
ANY, UH, QUESTION FROM THE COMMISSION HEARING NONE.
THIS IS KIND OF JUST CLEANING THIS UP, WHICH NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? UH, LET ME LET, UH, DIRECTOR ANDERSON ONE.
THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING HERE.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLEAR ON THE, IN THE AGENDA, BUT THE RESOLUTION IS FOR A CODE AMENDMENT AND A ZONE CHANGE CAUSE THERE ARE SOME ZONING ISSUES THAT WE'D LIKE TO CLEAR UP, BUT THAT WOULD COME AFTER THE CODE AMENDMENT WAS COMPLETED.
SO JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
AND THIS GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL ONCE WE'VE ACTED CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE ITEM.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR RED HALL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAWK HAS ROLL CALL PLEASE ON THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER KENNEDY CHAIRMAN.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
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OR A COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS THAT MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, CAN WE DO THE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON YOUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT? UM, WELL WE HAVE FORTHCOMING WOULD THERE A NO ITEMS FOR THE MAY 12TH MEETING, BUT WE DO HAVE ITEMS FOR THE MAY 26 MEETINGS.SO THERE WILL BE SOME HEARINGS.
SO EXPECT TO HAVE A MEETING ON THAT DATE.
AND WE ALSO PROVIDE YOU THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW.
ANY CITY COUNCIL ACTION CITY COUNCIL ACTION ON A CODE AMENDMENT FOR FILM STANDARDS.
THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OUT OF HEARINGS A LITTLE, UH, I THINK IN MARCH, UH, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED THAT IN HIS ASS FOR THE SENATE, BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT SOME THINGS.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE EXPECT TO HAVE ON THE MAY 26TH AGENDA.
ALL RIGHT, WELL NOW I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO UH, UH, COMMISSIONER REPORTS AND COMMENTS.
UH, LET ME JUST KIND OF PICK UP ON WHERE SOME OF THE, UH, EMAILS AND NOT EMAILS, BUT SOME OF THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED WITH, UH, DIRECTOR ANDERSON, JEFF ANDERSON FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WAS STATED BY, BY ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE CALLERS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, JEFF IS THE LAST OF THE, THE OLD GUARD, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MOVED ON, RETIRED OR GONE TO ANOTHER POSITION.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I JUST, UH, JEFF, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE YEARS OF WORKING WITH YOU.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S BEEN A, AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE.
UH, YOU KNOW, MY WORK WITH YOU WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE SECOND TO DOUG MCISAAC AND BEFORE THAT I WAS COMING TO MEETINGS BEFORE I EVER CAME ON THE COMMISSION AND THAT WAS BACK IN 2005 ORIGINALLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU, YOUR, THE WAY YOU HANDLE YOUR COMMISSIONERS, THE WAY YOU DEAL WITH US.
YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR EVEN KEEL AND YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT WITH IT, MAN.
YOU'RE JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST GO WITH IT, DEAL WITH IT, HANDLE IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND THE SAME THING, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES FORWARD, I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT KIND OF A GUY AND IT'S, UH, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT GUY IN THE RIGHT POSITION FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
AND, UH, I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU WHEN I, WHEN I CALL IN OR WE DISCUSS THINGS TO, UH, ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE UNFLAPPABLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU, YOU RESPOND TO EVERY QUESTION.
I MEAN, SOMETIMES IT, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU KNOW, AS A PROFESSIONAL IT MIGHT GO, BOY, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOUR HEAD TO THINKING THAT'S A DUMB QUESTION, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T, YOU ANSWER IT ANYWAY AND IT COMES OUT AND WE GET, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL BETTER FOR IT.
SO JUST TO KINDA MAKE IT QUICK AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.
I COULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR A BETTER PLANNING DIRECTOR ALL THESE YEARS.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, I WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR RETIREMENT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND UH, YOU KNOW, HALF OF MYSELF AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THEY, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS OF WEST COVINA, MOST OF WHICH, YOU KNOW, DON'T KNOW WHO ANY OF US ARE.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING.
BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE AND I WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST AND, AND UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL LET MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WEIGH IN ON WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO GO, WHO WAS FIVE MINUTES OR AHEAD.
THE OFFICIAL TIMEKEEPER WITH THE GROUP AND WATCH.
I COULDN'T HAVE KIND OF SAID IT BETTER THAN, THAN HER.
I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION ON FOR 12 YEARS AND I HAVE TO REALLY COMPLIMENT YOU FOR DEALING WITH ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, ODD BALLS PUTTING ME ON THE TOP OF THE LIST WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON.
YOU'VE NEVER, YOU KNOW, STARTED SCREAMING OR TEARING YOUR HAIR OUT OR OF COURSE YOU GREW UP.
I'M SO THEY'LL TELL YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS AN ACT TO DO IT, BUT YOU DID A REALLY GREAT JOB AND VERY EASY TO TALK TO AND UH, AND TO GET ANSWERS, AND I WILL TELL YOU, I WORKED IN CORPORATE WORLD FOR A FORTUNE 500 COMPANY WHERE WE HAD SUPERVISORS AND MANAGERS AND ALL THAT.
AND YOU REALLY ARE A CLASS ACT.
I MEAN, SOME, SOMETIMES YOU CAN APPROACH THESE MANAGERS AND ALL THAT OR THEY BLOW UP AND YOU'VE NEVER DONE THAT.
YOU'VE ALWAYS REMAINED CALM, PROFESSIONAL TO ME OR TRUE PROFESSIONAL.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
AND AS A MAN SAID, LIVINGSTONE, HE GOING TO KEEP AN APARTMENT OVER HERE FOR YOU.
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KANSAS CITY AND MAYBE ROOTS FOR THE, FOR THE LAKERS AND FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CHARGERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.IT REALLY HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.
UH, SO YOU'RE ASSUMING PROFESSIONAL SPORTS IS GOING TO COME BACK.
SO WHO WANTS TO GO TALK HAS, OH, GO AHEAD.
WELL, WHAT I LIKE TO SAY IS, JEFF, I LEARNED A GREAT DEAL FROM YOU CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, I'M RELATIVELY NEW IN TERMS OF AS A COMMISSIONER AND MANY PEOPLE BEFORE YOU, WHETHER IT'S YOUR INTERN OR STAFF OR MANY OF THE DIRECTORS WHO LEFT, YOU KNOW, LEARNED A GREAT DEAL FROM YOU.
I LEARNED A GREAT DEAL EVEN THOUGH AT TIMES, EVEN THROUGH THE MEETINGS, YOU GUIDE US THROUGH ALL THAT.
UM, AT TIMES COMMUNICATION WAS QUITE INTERESTING AND YOU ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, VERY PROFESSIONALS AND TRY TO GET THE JOB DONE AND FOR THE BETTER OF THE FEATURES AND ALL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, FOR THE CITIES AND ALL THE STAFF.
I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW IT, THE RESIDENTS, BUT YOU PUT A LOT OF YEARS UNTIL I, FOR ONE, LIKE THE THING, EVERYTHING DONE AND IT'S NOT A GREAT DEAL FROM YOU AS WELL.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOCK HAS, YOU'VE, UH, YOU'VE ONLY WORKED WITH THEM, HEAR FROM YOU.
UM, I, UH, BEEN ON ONLY A VERY SHORT TIME, OF COURSE, ON THE COMMISSION, ALTHOUGH, UH, I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HANGING AROUND, UH, THE CITY, THE CITY GOVERNMENT, UH, AND PLANNING FUNCTIONS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT IN THAT, A LITTLE BIT OF EXPOSURE, UM, WITH JEFF BEFORE THAT AND WAS IT FROM THE VERY START? SO IMPRESSED WITH, YOU KNOW, HIS PROFESSIONALISM.
UM, I THINK ADD A LOT OF THE, UH, VERY, UM, NICE THINGS THAT ARE SAID ABOUT YOU.
I WOULD, I WOULD SUM UP IN ONE WORD AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I DON'T, UH, GET TO USE THIS WORD VERY OFTEN WITH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT I HANG WITH.
SO IT GETS YOU, GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE KIND OF PEOPLE I HANG WITH, UM, THAT YOU'RE JUST TRULY A GENTLEMAN, A GENTLEMAN.
IT, IT MEANS IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALMOST BECOMING SORT OF AN ARCHAIC WORD IN DESCRIPTION, BUT IT'S SO BEFITTING OF YOU.
UM, I AM, I'M, UM, VERY, UM, YOU KNOW, PROUD AND PLEASED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU IN THIS SHORT PERIOD.
UM, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S BEEN FAR MORE ENRICHING, UH, THEN THEN, UH, CAN, UH, THEN THE FITS THE SHORT TIME THAT, UH, WE, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER.
AND I REALLY, I WISH YOU THE BEST.
I'LL COME TO THE GUY THAT'S BEEN ON THE COMMISSION.
WELL, I HAVE TO YIELD THAT SOMETIME.
UH, COMMISSIONER KENNEDY, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU JEFF.
UM, I KNOW I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR PROBABLY A YEAR, BUT I'VE BEEN A COMMISSIONER FOR 15.
YOU'RE A VERY KIND AND GENTLE PERSON.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS TAKING THE TIME TO ANSWER EVERY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS BUDDY, UH, WHEN I RETIRED, IT WAS NICE.
WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST THREE MONTHS? AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT YOU, IT'LL GET OLD REAL QUICK.
SO I HOPE YOU FIND SOME TYPE OF HOBBY.
SO ANYWAY, GOOD LUCK MY FRIENDS AND, AND, AND WELL EARNED.
YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME JUST, UH, OF COURSE I HAVE TO ALWAYS HAVE ONE MORE THING, BUT, UH, UH, JEFF, YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S A TESTAMENT TO YOUR, TO YOUR ABILITIES AND TO YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND TO WHO YOU ARE, THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, UH, WORKED WITH YOU AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EITHER SIDE-BY-SIDE AS STAFF OR IN OTHER CAPACITIES CALLED IN TO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ACCOLADES, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN TO HAVE YOUR PEERS THAT ARE IN THE SAME BUSINESS AND PROFESSION THAT YOU'RE IN TO CALL UP AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU THE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF A SENDOFF AND, YOU KNOW, NOTHING CAN REPLACE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS JUST REALLY THE EPITOME WHEN YOUR PEERS HAVE THAT KIND OF RESPECT FOR YOU.
THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN THAT.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO MISS YOU A LOT.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M KINDA KINDA GLAD I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M, THIS IS REALLY MY LAST
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FULL MEETING AS CHAIR, YOU KNOW, AND I'M KIND OF GLAD HERE CAUSE I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU SO MUCH.YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW THE ROAD AHEAD.
I'M SURE IT'LL BE GOOD, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WON'T BE THE SAME.
DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING JEFF? WELL, YEAH, I, I THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.
I MIGHT WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS HERE.
I KIND OF DID A QUICK CALCULATION.
I THINK I PROBABLY ATTENDED ABOUT 400 PLANNING COMMISSIONS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN GREAT.
A GREAT DEAL OF PLEASURE AND UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
SO, UM, AND PROBABLY ABOUT THAT MANY OR ABOUT 200 CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
SO IT'S A LOT OF MEETINGS AND UM, YOU KNOW THAT.
GLEN'S TOLD ME THAT BEFORE, WHAT HE JUST SAID AND I DO RESPECT THAT, THAT I EXPECT THAT TO OCCUR, BUT I'M NOT SURE I'M EVER GOING MISS, UH, TUESDAY NIGHTS, UH, BEING HERE LATE, LATE AT NIGHT AND HAVING TO GET UP EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNINGS.
UM, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED WITH LITERALLY DOZENS OF STAFF MEMBERS, BOTH.
UM, AND I'M REALLY FOCUSING ON PLANNING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE I'VE WORKED WITH AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT DOZENS OF, OF STAFF MEMBERS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND REALLY DOZENS OF INTERNS AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE.
RENE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WAS AN INTERN AND NOW HE'S A FULL TIME STAFF MEMBER, VERONICA AND CHRISTINE WHO YOU HEARD FROM EARLIER THE SAME WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR ANYTHING THAT I'VE LEARNED TO, BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH TO PEOPLE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH HERE THE LONGEST, WHICH IS DOUG MCISAAC, FABIOLA WONG, RON GARCIA, SHERRY SANCHO SINCLAIR.
AND THEN LYDIA
UM, BUT THOSE GUYS HAVE HAD A PROFOUND IMPACT ON MY LIFE.
UM, BUT I, I, I'VE CONSIDERED IT AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH ALL THE INTERNS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH.
AND ALL THE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH OVER THE YEARS.
ONE OF MY GREATEST, UH, W THE GREATEST THINGS THAT GAVE ME CHILLS WAS WHEN I WENT TO A, A SEMINAR AND THAT SEMINAR WAS BEING RUN BY AMONGST OTHER PEOPLE.
TWO OF THE FORMER INTERNS THAT I HAD HAD, ONE OF THEM WAS MIGUEL NUNEZ WHO YOU HEARD FROM TONIGHT.
HE WAS RUNNING THE SHOW AND HE'D BEEN AN INTERN.
AND YOU KNOW, WE, THEY STARTED WITH US AND, AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS, RON, VERONICA, CHRISTINE, THEY'VE GONE ON TO OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE, THAT THEY PROMOTED AND UM, AND THEY'RE DOING GREAT THINGS.
AND I REALLY, I, I CONSIDERED IT AN HONOR TO, TO HAVE THEM AS FRIENDS AND THEY, THEY, WHATEVER THEY'VE LEARNED FROM ME, I'VE, I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM THEM AS WELL.
UM, I WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN HAPPY WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'VE DEALT WITH.
UH, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT GIVE ME A GREAT DEAL OF PRIDE.
I FEEL LIKE WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET THE COLONY DEVELOPMENT INTO A STATE WHERE IT HOPEFULLY SETS A BAR FOR WHAT COMES AFTERWARDS.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT PROJECT BE GREATLY EXCITED WHEN, WHEN, OR IF WE EVER GET SOME KIND OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THERE, BUT UM, OR COMMERCIAL USE.
BUT OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN REALLY PROUD OF IS THE COMPLETION OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND THEN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THERE.
UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WE FORMULATED A W UH, DOUGLAS, ISAAC AND I AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS BACK IN THE EARLY 2000.
THAT'S HOW THAT CAME TOGETHER.
THE HOUSE DESIGN GUIDELINES AT THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN, BUT WHICH FORMER COMMISSIONS HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN.
I, I'M VERY PROUD THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THINGS AND HOPEFULLY PUT THE COMMUNITY IN A PLACE THAT IT, IT, IT DOES, IT GETS BETTER EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANNA UH, BECAUSE I'M, UH, SETTING WHERE, UH, GLEN USUALLY SETS AT THIS MEETING IN THE HALL WHERE NOBODY'S AT.
AND I HAVE THE GAVEL IN FRONT OF ME.
SO I HAD MY COULD MAKE A REQUEST THAT YOU ALLOW ME TO ADJOURN THE MEETING WITH THE GAVEL.
CAUSE ALL THIS TIME, 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN WATCHING PEOPLE GOBBLE THINGS AND I'VE NEVER GOTTEN.
SO THAT IS MY REQUEST, IF, IF, IF I WOULD BE SO HONORED BY THE CHAIRMAN AND I AM HONORED, SIR TO GRANT YOUR REQUEST.
AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE WITH THESE COMMISSIONS WITH YOU AS THE COMMISSIONERS AND I'M GOING TO MISS EACH OF YOU GREATLY AS WELL.
ARE WE READY TO ADJOURN? SO WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN AND I GUESS WE ARE ALRIGHT.
WE ARE JOINING THIS MEETING AT NINE 20 THANK YOU.