Apr 14, 2020 Planning Commission

HERE.

I WILL NOW, UH, TOSS IT BACK TO OUR DIRECTOR AND HE CAN KIND OF FILL US IN A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UH, MACHINATIONS OF TONIGHT'S MEETING AND HOW THINGS ARE GONNA WORK.

SO, JEFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

AND THESE ARE BASICALLY TO TRY TO HELP IT BE AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE ATTENDING TO.

SO FIRST OF ALL THAT THE CHAIRMAN SHOULD CONTROL THE MEETINGS AND CALL ON EACH COMMISSIONER TO COMMENT AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DELAY.

THERE'S A FEW SECOND DELAY.

SO THERE MAY BE SOME THAT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD.

SOMETIMES WE'D BE EXPECTING THAT A COMMISSIONER SHOULD LISTEN ON THE PHONE AND WATCH YOUTUBE PERSPECTIVE WITH THE VOLUME YOU THAT IF YOU HAVE THE TELEVISION ON OR THE YOUTUBE TURN, TURN THE VOLUME ALL THE WAY DOWN SO YOU DON'T PICK UP ANY ECHO IN THE BACKGROUND TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THOSE LISTENING, PLEASE SPEAK LOUDLY AND CLEARLY INTO YOUR PHONES FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE AUDIO RECORDING.

AND THEN DURING THE MEETING, ALL PERSONS COMMENTING SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.

SO THIS IS A KEY VOTE DIRECTOR, JEFF ANDERSON.

I'M, I'M SPEAKING AT THIS TIME.

UH, NEXT ALL VOTES SHOULD BE ROLL CALLS, VOTES.

AND THEN LASTLY, IF YOU CAN PLACE YOUR PHONE ON MUTE WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, THIS WILL REDUCE BACKGROUND NOISE AND FEEDBACK.

SO THAT'S MINE INSTRUCTION TO TRY TO HELP OUT WITH THE ABILITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BUSINESS TO WHERE IT CAME TO.

VERY GOOD.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NOPE.

THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 10 2020 AND THE COMMISSIONERS WERE STILL MAKING ANY CHANGES, SO LET ME KNOW WHO YOU ARE HEARING NONE.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THOSE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS PRESENTED TO US.

THE NEXT TIME MAKE SURE ALL COMMUNICATIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY STUDY WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION EITHER VIA EMAIL OR THAT WE'RE CALLING TO HAVE THEM SPEAK? WE DID NOT GET ANY REQUESTS FOR OH, COMMUNICATION.

TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO TWO A GENERAL EXEMPTION CITYWIDE LOCATION.

THEN WE WILL UH, DISPENSE WITH THAT HAVING ASKED FOR IT, WE WILL MOVE ON

[2. CODE AMENDMENT NO. 20-02 GENERAL EXEMPTION LOCATION: Citywide REQUEST: The proposed code amendment consists of certain amendments to the Zoning section of the West Covina Municipal Code to modify commercial (nonresidential) uses and standards.]

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT CONSISTING OF CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING SECTION OF THE WESTMEAD MUNICIPAL CODE TO MODIFY COMMERCIAL, NON-RESIDENTIAL USES AND STANDARDS.

MR. ANDERSON, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR REPORT, SIR.

YES, I WILL BE PRESENTING THIS ON TO THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, JEFF ANDERSON IS CODE.

I'M IN THE 2002 AND WE KIND OF TITLED THIS COMMERCIAL CLEANUP.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION INITIATED THIS CODE AMENDMENT ON JANUARY 28 2020 AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF AND A STEADY INFLATION WOULD TELL ABOUT A FINDING CONDITION ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2020 SO I HOPE TO GET SOUNDS PRETTY FAMILIAR TO YOU AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

THE PROPOSED CODE ADMIN WOULD BASICALLY DO FOUR THINGS WITH MODIFY THE LAND USES ALLOWED IN VARIOUS RED NON RESIDENTIAL ZONES IN THE CITY.

SO IT'S THE NAME COMMERCIAL CLEANUP.

WE WOULD REVISE STANDARDS FOR SCREEN WALLS AND COMMERCIAL AREAS

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WHICH ARE WALLS BETWEEN PARKING AREAS IN THE STREET AND IT WOULD REVISE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS IN THE ZONE AND IT WOULD REVISE SEPARATION STANDARDS OR TATTOOING USES AND RESIDENTIAL.

SO WELL I'M GOING TO START WITH THE LAND USE CHANGES IN THE MATRIX.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO, WE'RE SUGGESTING ADDING TO THE OFFICE PROFESSIONAL ZONE, SEPARATE PERMITTED USES, THOSE BEING CATERING SERVICE DELICATESSENS ICE CREAM SERVERS, MAKE FACILITIES AND POSTAL SERVICE ALSO ADDING AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE OPS ZONE BUT OUR NARY HOSPITALS AND ICE CREAM STORES.

WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONE WE'D BE CHANGING UH, POSTAL SERVICES FROM REQUIRING AND ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT TO A PERMITTED USE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND IN THE MEDIUM COMMERCIAL ZONES WOULD BE ADDING A CONDITIONAL USE, UH, ENBREL, RECREATION FACILITIES, OTHER CHANGES TO THE LAND USE MATRIX ARE A CHART THAT WAS DONE, THE CODE, THE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THAT CHART AND DELETING IT AND THEN INCORPORATING THOSE THINGS IN THE CHART INTO THEIR REGULAR LANDIS' MATRIX.

THESE INCLUDE MOVING COFFEE SHOPS, SNACK SHOP AS A PERMITTED USE PHARMACIES AS IT PERMITTED USE AND BARBER AND DD SHOPS.

IS IT PERMITTED TO USE IN TERMS OF SCREENING? THE CURRENT STANDARD REQUIRES THAT IN 36 INCH HIGH BROCK WALL BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE OUTSIDE OF PERIMETER OF PARKING AREAS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO PUBLIC STREETS.

THIS HAS CAUSED SOME CONFUSION AND IT CAN BE A GRAFFITI MAGNET AND CAN ALSO CAUSE SOME UH, MAINTENANCE ISSUES BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO PARKING SPACES, WHERE SUGGESTIONS THAT'D BE CHANGED TO REQUIRE PARKING AREAS TO BE SCREENED FROM PUBLIC STREETS USING MEANS SUCH AS LAND CONTOURING, LOW-PROFILE WALLS, SHRUB PLANTINGS OR SIMILAR SCREENS OR COMBINATION.

SO THAT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE VARIETY AND FLEXIBILITY TO APPLICANTS AND HOW THEY WANT TO PROVIDE THAT SCREEN FOR LANDSCAPING.

FIRST OF ALL, THE CODE OR IN THE INDUSTRIAL PART OF TOWN, THE NORTH RESTAURANT SEC SECTION OF TOWN KIND OF REQUIRES 8% OF THE PROPERTY BE LANDSCAPE, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONE.

AND YOU THINK IF WE THINK ABOUT COMMERCIAL OR MANUFACTURING ZONES THAT THAT MIGHT BE A BIT MUCH.

AND I THINK YOU GET A LOT OF LANDSCAPING IN THE BACK OF THESE KIND OF LOTS.

IT'S NOT VISIBLE AND MAYBE NOT MAINTAINED OVER TIME.

SO WE'RE SUGGESTING TO REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 4% LANDSCAPING WITH AT LEAST 75% OF THAT BEING WITHIN 50 FEET OF THE PUBLIC STREET.

AND THEN LASTLY FOR TATTOOING, THE CODE CURRENTLY REQUIRES A TATTOO.

USES BE SEPARATED BY 300 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES OR ZONES.

I'M SUGGESTING THAT THAT BE CHANGED TO REQUIRE 300 FOOT SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL USES, BUT NOT FROM ZONES.

WE DID HAVE A SITUATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE SOMEONE PROPOSED A VARIANCE.

WE GRANTED THE VARIANCE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T TRAINING FROM A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, BUT THEY WERE FROM HOUSTON.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CODE AMENDMENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE SAFRA COURT, UH, WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

UM, AND THEY WOULD MAKE, TAKE FINAL ACTION BEFORE THIS BECAME PART OF THE CODE.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE THIS TIME.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? I DON'T HEAR ANY OF THIS.

JUST KIND OF CODIFIES WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE STUDY SESSION AND THAT'S, WE'RE JUST PRETTY MUCH BLESSING GETTING SO NAKED ON ITS WAY.

SO THIS QUESTION I HAVE IS, I HAVE A QUESTION.

HAD REQUESTS FOR THINGS THAT SEEM TO BE NOT CONSISTENT WITH HOW THE REST OF THE CODE WORKS.

UH, IT'S GO HAPPY.

UM, AND I'M KINDA CATCHING UP A LITTLE BIT ON THIS ISSUE WITH REGARD TO SOME OTHER POSSIBLE POLICIES THAT ARE IN PLACE.

UM, AND UH, SO MY QUESTION KINDA IS GOING TO LEAD TO THAT AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER, BUT IN THE REVIEW OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, UM, WAS THIS ALL, DID ALL DEPARTMENTS HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW? IT'S MORE THAN NAMES.

THEY HAD THIS PROPOSAL, THIS ROCHE CHANGE IN THE CO IN THE CODE AND THE COMMONALITY WELL, HOW, HOW THIS CAME ABOUT IS THIS WAS A STAFF-DRIVEN SUGGESTION.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS INITIATED.

THANK ME.

SHE INITIATED, BUT IT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF AND WE HAVE BEEN NOTING THINGS THAT WE'VE

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SO STAFF PLANNING STAFF HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THIS.

WE REALLY DIDN'T DISCUSS THIS WITH OTHER STAFF FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

THIS IS MORE OR LESS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT REALLY HAS THE AUTHORITY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO, TO REVIEW AND TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO APPLICANTS WHEN THEY MAKE.

I UNDERSTAND.

UH, UH, HOW IT CAME ABOUT AND HOW, HOW IT WAS HANDLED FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

UH, WE WANT TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS, UH, ABOUT THE POINTING TO MY QUESTION LATER.

COMMISSIONER HUCK HARRIS.

THERE'S MORE TO YOUR QUESTION.

SESSION AMONGST THE COMMISSIONERS.

OH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS? I'M HEARING YOU.

WHY DON'T YOU CONTINUE ON A MISSION.

UM, AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION WAS, UM, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS CATCHING UP WITH, UH, SOME OTHER POLICY MARATHONS THAT OUT THERE GOING ON, UH, IN SORT OF THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL WORLD AND LA COUNTY.

UM, AND MOSTLY THROUGH MY OWN, UM, MY OWN PROFESSIONAL ENDEAVORS WITH REGARD TO THE, UM, THE STORM WATER PERMITTING OR RAMS THAT EVERY CITY, UH, HAS HAD TO UNDERTAKE.

UM, BECAUSE OF THE, UM, OBLIGATION OF, OF A, OF THE PERMIT THAT GOES BACK TO A, YOU KNOW, LAST ADOPTED BY THE LA, UH, LOS ANGELES REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD BACK IN 2012.

UM, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THE CITY UNDERSTAND NOW IS THAT HE HAD HAD IMPLEMENTED OR ADOPTED, UH, A ORDINANCE, UM, WHAT IS COMMONLY CALLED A LOW LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.

UM, EXCUSE ME, UM, BACK IN AUGUST, 2015 OR 14, BUT, UM, THIS, THIS ORDINANCE PUTS INTO PLACE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR YOU, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND, AND REDEVELOPMENT.

SHE SIGNED WITH WHAT ARE CALLED, UM, STANDARD OR ANYTHINGS FROM WATER MITIGATION PLAN REQUIREMENTS, OR IT'S A UGLY ACRONYM THAT PEOPLE SOMETIMES, UM, ABBREVIATE TO SOMETHING.

SO HE'S, UM, SO THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE HE JUST HEARD, CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WITH REGARDS TO THE NEXUS TO THIS EXISTING ORDINANCE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, URBAN ONLY APPLIED TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BUT AT SOME POINT IT MIGHT BE, MIGHT BE WORTH, YOU KNOW, TAKING THAT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

UM, AND THOSE REASONS PRIMARILY FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE CITY, BOTH FINANCIALLY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE.

I DON'T RECALL, UH, THAT IN ONE OF THE RECENT APPROVALS THAT WE DID FOR, UM, IT WAS FOR THE DOMINANT UP THERE IN SAN BERNARDINO OR WHEREVER WE, RIGHT, IT WAS REALLY COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING TYPE, UM, PARCEL WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, WE SAVED FOR PEOPLE BEING STARTED BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT IS A REALLY INTERESTING REALLY EXCITING CAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO DO A LOT OF GOOD, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

UM, UH, BUT I, I DON'T RECALL SAYING OR, OR BEING AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT RUN THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, WE'LL CALL LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND, AND PLAN REQUIREMENTS TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

UM, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE STATE THAT THE CITY'S IN AND YOU, I'M MORE THAN INCLINED TO NOT EVEN BE TERRIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER SEE THE ADMITTED BUSINESSES GET SET UP AND GET UNDERWAY, INDEPENDENT

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START DOING BUSINESS.

UM, BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE REGULATORY POWERS ARE GOING TO FLEX THEIR MUSCLES AND EVENTUALLY YOU CAN'T AVOID, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH A BED.

AND, UH, SO THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE, UM, IN THE CODE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, UM, AND DO THAT WITH HOPEFULLY LITTLE TO NO HARM TO THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP AND LEAD, DEVELOP, UM, JUST KIND OF POVERTY.

SO, UM, MY THOUGHT WAS IS THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INSERT SOME LANGUAGE TO REALLY INVIGORATES THE PROCESS AND WHICH, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AS ARE REVIEWED AND ARE CONDITIONED IN ORDER TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR UNDER THIS, UNDER THIS PERMIT.

SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT I'M, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS PROBABLY AN EXCHANGE OR AN ADDITION.

THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE AND IN THE, UM, IN THE DRAFT, UM, OF THE, UH, OF THE, OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO, UM, I KEEP OFFERED THAT LATER, BUT I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS MAYBE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE REGARD TO THIS, THIS STORM WATER PERMIT REQUIREMENT.

AND WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN SOME LANGUAGE TO ADDRESS THAT WITH REGARD TO THE LANDS BEING, UM, UH, ELEMENT OF IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GREAT THINKING, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THAT FROM 40, CAUSE I NEED THE 4%, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM.

UM, BUT THE OFFICER SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, REGULATORY OBLIGATIONS, UH, THAT WE, UH, THAT WE NEED TO MEET.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M PERSONALLY AWARE OF AND HOPING WE CAN, YOU KNOW, NOT, UH, NO, SHE, HER, YOUR WAS IN THE FOOT, BUT NOT BRINGING NO.

UM, NEXT IS POLICIES TOGETHER.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP.

UH, GO AHEAD CHAIRMAN.

MAYBE.

YEAH, THIS IS JEFF, THE COMMUNITY DIRECTOR.

SO LET'S, WE, WE DO HAVE THOSE POLICIES IN PLACE.

UM, AND THOSE ARE DONE BY OUR ENGINEERING DIVISION.

THAT'S NOT, UH, JIMMY PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE THEM.

HE'S A DONE PART OF PLAN CHECK.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONSULTANT WHOSE JOB IT IS TO LOOK AT THOSE PLANS.

HE HAD ID PLANS SO THAT, THAT IS DONE.

UH, HE HASN'T DONE FOR THE LAST FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS.

WHAT, WHATEVER TIMEFRAME WE LOSE SOMETHING IN THE CITY IS VERY SERIOUSLY WATCHING AND WE ARE VERY AWARE THAT THERE ARE STUFF CAN BE PENALTIES IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THAT.

UM, IT'S, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE USUALLY VARIETY OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE THOSE RUNOFF STANDARDS.

UM, LANDSCAPING IS ONE, AND THIS WAS SUGGESTED CODE AMENDMENT.

WE'RE NOT UM, RESTRICTING THEM FROM HAVING MORE LANDSCAPING IF THEY SO DESIRED.

BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD JUST BE THE MINIMUM.

SO, UM, THEN IF THERE'S A CONCERN ON THE PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE REMOVED ALTOGETHER FROM HERE AND WE COULD LEAVE IT ALONE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ALL THESE THINGS SORT OF STAND ALONE IN THIS CODE AMENDMENT.

UM, IF THAT'S THE ONE I THINK WE'VE NOTED.

AND IF YOU DRIVE UP TO THE MANUFACTURING AREA, THEY'LL NOTE THAT THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH LANDSCAPING UP THERE ON ANY OF THE LOT OF, SOME LOTS.

I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY LANDSCAPING ON HIM.

SO THAT'S WHY A STAFF IS TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT WE COULD MAXIMIZE THE, THE AESTHETIC REPAIR LANDSCAPING WITHOUT HAVING PEOPLE PUTTING 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE AREAS ON THE BACK, WHICH STEP PROBABLY NEVER MAINTAINED.

SO IN SOME WAY THAT WE DO UNDERSTAND THE NPDS REQUIREMENTS, OUR ENGINEERING DIVISION LOOKS AT THAT ALL THE TIME.

WHEN WE GET NEW PLANS DATE, THEY GO TO OUR CONSULTANT AND WE DO PUT CONDITIONS ON THE PROJECTS, LIKE THE ONE THAT'S CORRECT MENTIONED ON SAN BERNARDINO ROAD AND THE ONE WE WERE PLANNING ON BRINGING TO A PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

BUT WE'LL HAVE THOSE CONDITIONS ON THERE AS WELL.

TO MAYBE THROW SOMETHING IN THERE THAT, UM, SOME LANGUAGE THAT YOU KNOW, PROVIDED THAT YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SUSAN CONDITIONS ARE MET THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS ISN'T, IF YOU DON'T THINK NECESSARY JACK, I MEAN THIS IS WHY I'M LOOKING FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR ADVICE IS TO DRAW SOME CONNECTION TO THAT BY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF AIDING A MINIMUM AREA, UH, IT MAY NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, UM, MEET THOSE CONDITIONS.

GOTCHA.

YEAH, AND I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY WE WOULD NOT NORMALLY SEE THAT.

IT JUST, THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO SEE THAT.

UM, BUT, UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IN THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE CODE, IN THIS, UH, PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS HERE, UM, THE, THE LANGUAGES SUGGEST THAT A MINIMUM OF 4% OF THE TOTAL IN THAT AREA, UM, OTHER THE ELEMENTS SHOW ME LANDSCAPE AND SOME OF THE WATER AND MOVE ON OUR MISSION, YOUR MAP, YOUR USAGE, ASSUMING PERCENT ALASKA PUBLIC STREET.

UM, I LIKE

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UM, YOU MIGHT NEED A PLACE TO MEET THEIR RUNOFF AND KEEP IT ONSITE AND 40%.

IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF AREAS.

IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, NO BOOKER IS BY THIS JUST CONVICTED MINE BASED ON THE GROSS AREA OF THE PARCEL.

A VERY LARGE PARCEL WILL HAVE A VERY LARGE AREA OF THAT'S AMOUNTS TO 4% POLY ISSUE, MUCH BETTER THAN A MUCH SMALLER PARCEL DID.

SO, UM, ANYHOW, UM, JUST KINDA CONCERNS ME.

THERE WAS A, UH, I SEE THINGS HAPPENING IN THAT WORLD WHERE, UM, IT'S EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY GONNA RAMP UP AND ONCE WE GET OUT OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PANDEMIC EMERGENCY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY IS THE COUNTY IS UH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, UM, AS MUCH AS THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE HOOK FOR THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, REGULATORY, UM, COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR FUNDING PROGRAM IS KIND OF CALLING THE SHOTS ON AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE TIED WITH AND UM, SO THE MORE THAT THE CITY DOES FOR ITSELF, UM, THE LESS LIKELY HAVE PARTIES LIKE THE COUNTY OR THE REGULATORY BOARD BREATHING DOWN NECK.

SO I GUESS MY SUGGESTION IS CAN YOU INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE IN HERE ABOUT 4%.

SO PART OF PROVISIONAL IS PROVIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MPDS DEPARTMENTS THROUGH CONTROLLING WENT OUT ON THE PARCEL HAD BEEN MET.

I THOUGHT SO.

THIS IS, THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE.

I THINK THAT'S NOT IT.

THAT LOOKS FINE.

UM, CAUSE WE COULD SAY THAT PROVIDED THAT IT PROVIDED THE PROPERTIES IN COMPLIANCE WITH STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS.

NOW, I THINK I'LL WORK A LITTLE BIT ON THAT STORM WATER CLIMATE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE, I'LL TALK TO THE ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TITLE THERE SO WE CAN EASILY ADD THAT IF EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

THIS IS A CHAIRMAN ROAD HOLDS.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS? ANYONE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH COMMISSIONER HOTEZ IS SUGGESTING OR ARE WE GOOD TO GO ON THAT? DO YOU THINK ANYBODY WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT? SO COMMISSIONER KENNEDY, I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HAUKASS AND AND UH, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT.

THIS IS A CHAIR READ OFFS.

ANY OBJECTIONS FROM A WE SHOULDN'T HOLD? ARE YOU GOOD? YOU NEED TO TAKE A ROLL CALL.

WELL WAS SO THIS, IT WOULD BE IN IT.

YES, GO AHEAD.

I THINK, I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO RIGHT NOW, ALTHOUGH IT'S A LITTLE, IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE AWKWARD, IS TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WE RECEIVED ANY, ANY COMMENTS AND THEN I WAS FINE.

AND THEN YOU KNOW, WE'LL GIVE THE COMMENTS AND YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC TAG AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO DISCUSSION.

AND, AND, AND A MOTION.

YEAH, I FORGOT.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC TESTIMONY PORTION.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM, MR. DIRECTOR? WELL, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REQUESTS TO PROVIDE INPUT.

UH, AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT IS THAT UM, THE COUNTY HAS PROJECT, UH, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROJECTS THAT THEY'D BEEN POSING TO CONSTRUCT A FACILITY THAT CAPTURE STORM WATER.

I GUESS IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO TO A COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM.

YOU MENTIONED A HOT CARES.

DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST ON THIS, ON THE DISCUSSION TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE JUST REFERRING TO AND WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN? YEAH.

UM, I JUST WANT US TO JUST HER, WE EMPHASIZE THAT THE FORCES AT WORK OUT THERE THAT IN THIS, IN THIS WORLD OF THIS FORM WATER PERMANENT, UH, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, BRING A LOT TO BEAR ON THE CITY AND ACTUALLY DO HARM TO THE CITY.

UM, I'LL GIVE YOU JUST ONE SORT OF BIZARRE EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT, UM, HAD BEEN A STORY I HAD BEEN FOLLOWING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND I, AND I AND, AND I HOPE, UH, STAFF IN SOME WAY CAN, YOU KNOW, BECOME AWARE OF IT AND KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND BEAT AND

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UM, IT A SUBSURFACE FACILITY, UH, OUT, THIS IS OUTSIDE THE CITY AREA IN WHICH IS AROUND THE POINT THERE, RIGHT? THE UNINCORPORATED, UH, AREA OUTSIDE THE CITY UNDERNEATH CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOLS OF FOOTBALL FIELDS AND, AND OTHER OPEN SPACES KNOW, UH, ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND, UM, AND IT'S A PROJECT THAT WOULD HAVE A CONNECTION TO POTENTIAL CONNECTIONS, UH, THE VARIOUS PERMITTED, UH, CITIES, UM, BEING ABLE TO, UM, POTENTIALLY USE THAT PROJECT AS CLIENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, TO OR TO REGISTER COMPLIANCE WITH THE PERMIT PROGRAM.

HOWEVER, THIS PROJECT AND IN MY OPINION IS A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE PROJECT.

IT'S, UM, IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.

YOU WANT TO BUILD THIS PRODUCT FOR A PRICE OF ABOUT $60 MILLION.

AND BECAUSE THEIR CONTENTION IS, IS THAT BRITISH CITIES BENEFIT FROM THE PROJECT IN THIS REGULATORY STANDPOINT, HOW MANY IS GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY LOOKING TO CITIES THAT COULD, SHOULD BE RUN OFF IN, IN THAT DIRECTION TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROJECT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS, UM, STRONG MATER PERMIT PROGRAM, UM, THE COUNTY HAS SET UP ITS OWN FUNDING PROGRAM THROUGH WITH WAS VOTED IN, UM, AWHILE AGO.

OH, YOU KNOW, THE MEASURE W AND UNDER THAT PROGRAM THE CITY'S GOING TO, UH, PRESUMABLY ESTIMATES ARE GET 1.3 $7 MILLION IN ITS MUNICIPAL ALLOCATION OUT OF THAT, UM, WHICH ISN'T REALLY INTENDED FOR THE CITY AND FOR ITSELF, UH, ON ITS OWN, YOU KNOW, SMALLER PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY.

UM, BUT, UH, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THAT IN ANY WAY IT COULD BE CONTRIBUTED TO THE COUNTIES GLAM AND FOR THIS $60 MILLION PROJECT OUTSIDE THE CITY BOUNDARIES IN, IN A LOCATION THAT WAS, FEEL, CAN FEEL, CAN SEE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AGAIN, UH, AND EVENTUALLY, UM, IN DEALINGS BETWEEN SOME PARTIES, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH BASKIN UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I MEAN, AN ENTITY WAS ACTUALLY AUDITED BY THE STATE AUDITOR BECAUSE IN THIS KIND OF, UH, SO, UM, SO THIS WAS THE SORT OF THING THAT CAN HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LONG STRETCH FROM OUR PLANNING PERMISSION, UM, MISSION, UH, WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

UH, BUT IN EMPHASIZING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THIS CURRENT AMENDMENT, REALLY THINK THAT IT'S ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS WHERE WE CALL OUR OWN FAITH.

WE MANAGE OUR OWN, UM, UH, BUSINESS WHEN IT COMES TO BUYING, WHICH NEEDS, UH, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS, UH, AND, AND NOT BE, UH, HOODWINKED BY, BY THE COUNTY, UH, TO BE, UH, UH, BE TRICKED INTO PARTICIPATING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN A, UM, A PROJECT THAT IS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, THE WITH PROBLEMS AND, AND, UH, AND, AND IS, WILL THE PRICE, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO THE BENEFITS.

SO, UM, THIS IS THAT, THAT'S JUST WHERE THIS ALL THIS THINKING HAD, COMES FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, A WORD.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY.

AND I SEE THIS AS JUST A REALLY SMALL WAY.

UM, BUT THAT'S MY MOTIVATION BEHIND IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY.

GO TO COUNCIL AND HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

THIS WAS CHAIRMAN REYNOLDS.

ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ON THIS? NOW LET ME ASK A DIRECTOR, ANDERSON, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS A, I MEAN IS THIS SOMETHING THAT ENGINEERING WOULD LOOK AT AS PART OF THEIR REVIEW OF A PROJECT OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WE SHOULD CONSIDER ADDING INTO THE LANGUAGE? NO, THIS WAS, THIS WAS SIMPLY THIS IS A DIRECTOR.

ANDERSON.

YEAH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE ENGINEERING WE WILL BE LOOKING AT.

IT IS LOOKING AT IT, IT'S VERY TIMELY THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS MENTIONING THAT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

I'LL GO SLEEP BEFORE THE CD CAN SPEND ANY OF ITS MONEY.

IT HAS TO

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SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT A RURAL, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS DISCUSSING AND LOOKING INTO AND, AND WILL BE LEAD TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT.

THIS WAS, THIS IS TRIM AND RED ALSO.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADD OR IS IT JUST SOMETHING THAT THAT HAPPENS AS PART OF THE PROCESS? THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WITHOUT IT, IT WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THIS CODE OF MINT.

AND I THINK MR. MARQUEZ IS EXPLAINING WHY HE THINKS IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT IN PEOPLE'S FOR A FRONT FOR THINK ABOUT THE STORMWATER RUNOFF ISSUES.

GOTCHA.

SO WHEN WE CAN, IF WE CHOOSE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND UH, APPROVE THIS AS IT'S PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT.

CORRECT? YES, HE CAN HIM, BUT I KEEP IN MIND THAT COMMISSIONER HAS, DID SUGGEST THAT LANGUAGE, WHICH I READ AND IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT THEN THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO REPRESENT IT TO YOU.

AND UH, IS THAT THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION TO, TO ADD THAT AT THIS POINT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

IF ANYBODY, THIS IS RED IF ANYBODY WANTS TO.

WELL, GOOD.

YOU KNOW WHAT? UH, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER HOT CARE.

DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS WITH YOUR LANGUAGE EDITION? YOU SHOULD KNOW HAFEZ.

SORRY, I PUT MYSELF ON MUTE.

UM, DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS ITEM WITH YOUR ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE? YES, I DO.

AND I CAN OFFER SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, VERY, VERY SIMPLE SPRAYS TO ADD END OF THE, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE POST CODE AMENDMENT.

UM, I WOULD, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THAT TO ADD THE LANGUAGE AT THE END OF EITHER THE, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN BOLD AND UNDERLINED, UH, REGARDING THE MINIMUM 4% OF TOTAL THAT AREA, THE LANDSCAPING, UH, THAT AT THE VERY ENDS FOR THE AD PROVIDED, UH, THE POSITIONS ASSIGNED BY A TO THE C CAN BE MET IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDER.

I LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCES ORDINANCE NUMBER 2262 OR SOME OR SOME OTHER, UM, WORDING TO REPLACE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2262 IF THERE'S SOME OTHER DESCRIPTION FOR THAT.

SO PROVIDED THAT SHE WAS ASSIGNED BY THE CITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH OKAY.

STAFF OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, WE CAN WORK WITH THIS IS OBJECTORY ANDERSON.

YES, WE CAN WORK WITH THAT.

THIS IS CHAIR RED HOLTZ IS THERE.

THAT WAS THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOTEZ.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION WITH THE, UH, AMENDED ITEM COMMISSIONER KENNEDY? I WILL SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOKAS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KENNEDY.

AND MAYBE WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

BUT THIS IS A DIRECTOR, ANDERSON.

BEFORE I DO THAT, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE RESOLUTION NUMBER, WHICH IS ELLUCIAN T THANK YOU.

20 DASH SIX OH THREE ONE AND THEN I WILL CALL AND I, I THINK, WELL FIRST OF ALL, START OFF BY ASKING IF, IF WE DO HAVE COMMISSIONER HANG WITH US AT THIS POINT AND IF NOT, THEN I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER HOLTZ.

I, I'M HAVING A LITTLE CONCERN HERE BECAUSE I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THE, UH, COMMISSIONER SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I HATE TO SAY YES WHEN I HAVE VERY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THAT WILL DO.

UM, SO I'M THINKING I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN ON IT AT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING OR THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THAT WOULD DO OR WHAT WOULD A CAUSE.

ALRIGHT, SO ABSTENTION FROM MR HOLT'S, UH, COMMISSIONER HAUKASS, MISSIONARY KENNEDY.

I AND CHAIRMAN REYNOLDS.

THAT ITEM AND I ONLY PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS TRUE.

I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A, I'M GOING TO VOTE, I AUDIT FOR THE RECORD, BUT YOU KNOW, I COMMISSIONED A HOT CARES IS AN ENGINEER AND YOU KNOW, I KIND OF HAVE TO UH, UH, YIELD A LITTLE BIT TO HIS EXPERTISE ON THIS AND ALSO WITH STAFF'S CONCURRENCE.

SO KEEPING THAT ALL IN MIND, I'LL VOTE HI.

SO WE HAVE A THREE I VOTE AND AN EXTENSION.

SO IT DOES PASS THREE, IT WAS ZERO WITH ONE EXTENSION.

OKAY, WELL SO LOU THAT TAKES CARE OF

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SO THIS IS TRIM AND RED HALTS AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NON HEARING ITEMS.

[3. STUDY SESSION - DESIGN REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE GUIDELINES]

ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS A STUDY SESSION REGARDING OUR DESIGN REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE GUIDELINES.

DIRECTOR ANDERSON WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT.

I WILL BE DOING THAT AS WELL.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMISSION ON FOR SOME TIME NOW, PROBABLY THREE MONTHS OR SO TO UPDATE THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

UH, FURRY REVIEWED THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW GUIDELINES.

I'M SORRY WE HAD A, A PROJECT OR AS A CONCERN ABOUT THE WAY THE FRONT ELEVATION WAS DESIGNED.

WE WENT THROUGH AND HAD A STAY SESSION ON THE GUIDELINES AND WE DECIDED TO ADD TWO ONE TO THE ONE SRE GUIDELINES AND ONE DID THE TWO STORY GUIDELINES.

AND TONIGHT WE JUST, WE PRESENTED YOU IN THE, IN THE MATERIALS THAT THE NEW FORMS THAT WE'LL BE HANDING OUT TO YOU GUIDELINES FOR ONE STORY AND TWO STORY PADDED, UH, FOR THE ONE STORY GUIDELINES AT THE FRONT ELEVATION OF HOUSES SHOULD BE DESIGNED TO ENGAGE THE STREET TO THE PLACEMENT, THE DOOR WINDOWS AND THE FRONT PORCH AS WELL AS OTHER ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT DEFINED THE ELEVATION AS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

SO THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE ONE STORY.

AND THEN THE TWO STORIES, WE WOULD ADD A GUIDELINE THAT SAYS INCORPORATE THE ONE STORY GUIDELINES IN THE ARCHITECTURE DESIGNED FOR TWO STORY HOUSES IN ADDITIONS.

SO RAFAT, THAT'S, THIS IS MORE INFORMATIONAL.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A VOTE INVESTORS, ANY CONCERNS, WHAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THOSE AND START HANDING THOSE GUIDELINES OUT TO THE PUBLIC, UM, RELEASED TOMORROW.

OKAY, THIS IS CHAIRMAN RED HOLDS.

ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY UH, ISSUES OR UH, ANYTHING TO DISCUSS ON THIS ITEM OR WE CAN JUST UH, MOVE IT ALONG.

HEARING NONE.

I GUESS THOSE GUIDELINES WILL BE ADOPTED.

IS THAT THE CORRECT LANGUAGE? SO YES.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ANOTHER NON HEARING ITEM, WHICH IS A GENERAL PLAN ANNUAL REPORT OR 2019 AFTER ANDERSON.

SO WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.

[4. GENERAL PLAN ANNUAL REPORT FOR 2019 This report is an annual report required by State law for the progress of the General Plan. The report was presented to the City Council on March 17, 2020. The Housing Element report has been sent to the Department of Housing and Community Development and the General Plan report has been sent to the State Office of Planning and Research. The report is provided to the Planning Commission to inform the Commission of the data in the reports. No action is required.]

YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT THIS ITEM? YES.

AS THE REPORT STATES ANNUALLY WE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE STATE ON OUR GENERAL PLAN PROCESS OR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS.

AND ALSO ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT I WAS HEARING THAT IS REQUIRED TO ME A PARDON THAT CAME TO STATE THEIR REVIEWS THAT PROVIDES US SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAVE TO FILL OUT AND RETURN TO THEM.

SO IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, IT'S CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT ALL CITIES IN CALIFORNIA.

WE PROVIDED YOU THAT INFORMATION.

IT KIND OF TALKS ABOUT HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS HAD BEEN BUILT OVER THE OR HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS ANSWERED BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND THEN HOW MANY HAD BEEN BUILT IN FINALS OVER THE PAST YEAR.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE GENERAL PLAN INFORMATION THAT PROVIDES YOU INFORMATION ON THE DEVELOPMENT CHART, WHICH WHEN THE JAIL PLAN WAS ADOPTED AND INCLUDED SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, VARIOUS DISTRICTS IN THE CITY WHERE DEVELOPMENT WAS, UM, IT WAS THOUGHT TO BE THE PLACE THAT WAS GONNA OCCUR.

SO, AND WE DID AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT BASED ON THAT.

SO WE DIVIDED THAT BREAKDOWN AND WE ADD THE NUMBERS TO THAT EVERY YEAR.

AND SO THAT'S PROVIDED TO YOU AND ATTACHMENT ONE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE, UM, POLICIES AND ACTIONS THAT IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND THEN KIND OF MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE AT IN PROCESS, WHETHER THEY STARTED WITH, IS THERE AN ONGOING THING OR WITH, AS THEY'VE BEEN, THIS WAS BRING IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, FOR, UH, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S AGENDA PART OF THE CITY.

IT'S THE, IT'S THE ADOPTED POLICIES AND GOALS OF THE CITY.

IT'S THE IDEA OF WHERE THE CONCEPT OF WHERE THE CITY SEES ITSELF GOING OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS OR SO AT THIS POINT.

AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE ALSO PROVIDED THE CITY COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN SAYS AND WE'RE IT, IT'S TRYING TO TAKE THE CITY.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU, AGAIN, IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING WE NEED YOU TO VOTE ON.

IT'S JUST INFORMATIONAL AND, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE RESPONDED THOSE.

ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT? YES.

AS COMMISSIONER HAKA SAYS, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, UH, JEFF, THE UH, I GUESS, UH, ALL THE ELEMENTS IN THE GENERAL PAM, THE ONE POTATO ELEMENT IS THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND UM, BEING THAT IT HAS, I WOULD PRESUME SOME SORT OF KEY AND TURNS OF THE STATE, YOU KNOW, LAW REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO BE,

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UM, HOUSING TO MEET CERTAIN HOUSING, UM, THE CROWNS FOR AT, AT DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS.

AND, UH, SO FROM THE THIRD IN THE REPORT, THERE IS A REPORT ON, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS ELEMENT WITH REGARD TO THAT.

THE, UM, IT SHOWS THAT'S WHEN BACK TO 2014 AND IN THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD OR REPORTING ON IT, UH, AS WE HAD, UH, A, UH, THE REGIONAL REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT ALLOCATION NUMBER OF 831 UNITS, UM, THAT NEEDED TO BE MET.

AND, UM, AND THAT THAT'S BROKEN DOWN ACROSS, ABOVE MODERATING MODERATE INCOME, LOW INCOME, AND VERY LOW INCOME.

AND, UM, AND FOR THE, OF THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES, INCOME CATEGORIES OR HOUSING PIPES, UH, THE ONLY ONE THAT, THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN, THAT IS ON THE ABOVE, ABOVE MODERATE, UM, HAD A GLORY AND THE OTHER THREE, UM, NO HOUSING, UM, IN THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, UH, HAS BEEN DEVELOPED TO MEET, UM, THOSE NUMBERS.

SO, UM, WHAT IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IS A STORY AS TO WHY THAT'S THE CASE? I WOULD THINK THAT FOR COMMUNITY AND FOR CITY, LIKE WHAT'S THE NINA, THAT LAURA, YOU GO DOWN ON THE INCOME LEVEL FOR THE HOUSING PRICE MORE DIFFICULT.

IT IS TO ME BECAUSE IT'S JUST HARDER FOR DEVELOPERS ABLE TO DO THAT TOGETHER AND YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU KNOW.

AND THEN WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT MEETING, UH, UM, ALLOCATION NUMBERS? THIS WAS WHAT'S THE DIRECTOR? ANDERSON.

SO WE HOUSING ELEMENT IS AN EIGHT YEAR CYCLE.

WE'RE IN THE 2014 TO 2021 CYCLE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE IN THE INTERGRAPH, UM, AS, AS MICHELLE HAS POINTED OUT, WE, WE RECEIVED A, A REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF 831 UNITS BACK IN 2013, 2014.

AND SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO, WE HAD TO DO AT THAT TIME WAS WE HAD TO SHOW THAT WE HAD ZONING CAPACITY FOR 831 UNITS AND THE ZONING CAPACITY TO ALLOW FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE FILLED TO MEET.

THAT'S THE MAIN THING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO COMING UP ON A TIME FRAME WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ANOTHER HOUSING ELEMENT IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.

AND WE WILL NEED WHATEVER THE NUMBERS THEY GIVE US FOR THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR 2128.

THAT WILL BE, UH, ISSUED SOMETIME IN THE FALL AND WE WILL NEED TO SHOW ZONING CAPACITY FOR WHATEVER NUMBERS THEY GIVE US.

SO THAT BECOMES THE, THE REAL, UH, JOB OF THE CITY, THE CHALLENGE OF THE CITY TO SHOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF THERE BEING ANY PUNISHMENT FOR NOT MEETING, UM, UH, AFFORDABILITY.

UH, ALSO I THINK IN THE SAME BREATH WE CAN SAY WE HAVEN'T BUILT ANY AFFORDABLE, WE ALSO HAVE NOT DENIED ANY AFFORDABLE UNITS.

I WANT TO PROPOSE ANY SORTABLE UNITS SINCE 2014 WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE STATE DID AWAY WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES.

2012, I THINK IT WAS.

AND UH, THE THREE DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES GOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM FROM THE STATE TO MAKE SURE THAT UH, SORT OF THE HOUSING UNITS WERE CONSTRUCTED.

SO THE, FOR THAT TIME BEFORE 2014, WE DID HAVE SOME CONSTRUCTED OVER THE 10 YEARS BEFORE THAT BECAUSE WE HAD FUNDS COMING IN TO DO THAT.

NOW WE HAVE NO VERY LITTLE FUNDS COMING IN TO DO THAT.

SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A PROJECT AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY PROPOSED THE PROJECT.

SO, UM, THE WRONG, AND THE SHORT OF IT IN MY ESTIMATION IS THAT, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HOUSING ELEMENT, THE BIG CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MEET, UH, HOW OUR ZONING CAPACITY WILL ALLOW FOR WHATEVER NUMBER OF RENA UNITS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO US.

WELL, UM, WE DON'T REALLY, UH, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATION NUMBERS AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT ONE COMING OUT.

UM, I MEAN IN TERMS OF THEM BEING SORT OF SOFT NUMBERS OR HARD NUMBERS AND POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES, UM, HE IS LIKE, UM, IN HIS, WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING POLICY, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IT A HEAVIER HAND, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE AND MORE.

AND SO JUST WONDERING IF, UH, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, LAST,

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YOU KNOW, CREATE ANY UNDUE BURDENS ON THE CITY.

THIS IS DIRECTOR ANDERSON.

THAT WILL DEPEND ON WHO'S, WHO'S LISTENING TO THOSE, THE BURDEN, UH, WHETHER THEY THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO OR NOT.

BUT I, UM, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE PREPARED FOR A FAIRLY CHALLENGING NUMBER THAT'S ASSIGNED TO IT BECAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE STATE, THEY ARE RAMPING UP THE IDEA THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING.

AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BROADCAST THAT ACROSS THE STATE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO JUST ASSIGN ONE CITY TO, TO HAVE ALL THE UNITS.

THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTE THOSE UNITS ACROSS THE HORIZON.

SO, UM, WE SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR THAT.

AND YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS ALREADY KIND OF BEEN THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS, BUT WE WON'T KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SCIENTISTS.

THIS IS CHAIRMAN RED HOLDS TOO.

AND IN LIGHT OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED LATE LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE, REGARDING OUR ZONING OR OUR ONE ZONING TOO, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE STATE HAS IT IN THEIR AGENDA TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY RAMP UP, YOU KNOW, HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.

SO, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

THAT'S ABOUT IT.

IT'D BE DEALING WITH, FOR A, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST INTO THIS NEXT YEAR AND BEYOND.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I'VE EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS AND I CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

SERMONS ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT'S GOING IN.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? I DON'T HEAR ANY.

SO THIS WAS A RECEIVING FILE ITEM WITHOUT THE ACTION NEEDED, SO IT'S JUST RECEIVING FILE.

YES, WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ITEM.

GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

WE HAVE REACHED TO A, ONE OF THE AGENDA FOR COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ANY COMMISSION, UH, COMMENTS, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND, UH, STATE YOUR COMMENT IF YOU HAVE ANY.

I DON'T HEAR ANY.

OH, OKAY.

AT LEAST DAWN'S AWAKE.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

LET'S

[5. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT:]

AND MR. ANDERSON, PLEASE.