* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] ALL [ CALL TO ORDER] RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THIS, UH, AUGUST 25TH, 2026, REGULAR MEETING OF THE WEST COVINA PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, AND I NOW CALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. UH, WE WILL NOW TAKE A MOMENT FOR SILENT PRAYER OR MEDITATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WHICH WILL BE LED BY OUR NEW COMMISSIONER. UH, COMMISSIONER BENNETT, NOT BENTE IS YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART. READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. ALL ARTUR. ROLL CALL PLEASE. ARTURO. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. OF COURSE. UH, COMMISSIONER, HANG HERE. UH, COMMISSIONER VARA HERE. COMMISSIONER BENNETT HERE, VICE CHAIR CASTELLANOS, UM, IS HERE BUT HAS RESIGNED. UM, CHAIR LEWIS PRESENT. AND WITH THAT, UM, I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, THE NOW OUTGOING VICE CHAIR, UH, MR. CASTELLANOS TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS. UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COMMISSION, WE WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS, UH, DILIGENT SERVICE AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. UH, BOTH AS, UH, BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, BEING A COUNCIL MEMBER OF THIS CITY. SO, UM, DARIA, MY FRIEND, TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN LEWIS. I WANNA THANK WELL EVERYONE HERE, INCLUDING THE NEW COMMISSIONER BENNETT, CITY STAFF, EVERYBODY. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO DAILY AND TO THE AUDIENCE. SORRY FOR SLOWING US DOWN HERE. NORMALLY I SIT THERE, BUT I MOVED OUTTA THE CITY AND, UH, HAPPENED QUICKER THAN I THOUGHT. SO FOR THIS CHAIR, IT'S TIME TO SAY GOODBYE, BUT I KNOW IT'S IN GOOD HANDS AND WANNA SAY FOR EVERYONE. I REALLY ENJOYED IT. I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL CONTINUE DOING THE GOOD WORK THAT WE NEED. AND, UM, JUST WANNA THANK EVERYONE HERE AND AGAIN, CITY STAFF, FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO. IT'S, UM, PROBABLY LARGELY GOES UNNOTICED. UM, PROBABLY THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW HOW MUCH GOES INTO THESE MEETINGS AND EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND ALSO COMMISSIONERS FOR THE, UM, COUNTLESS HOURS THAT GO INTO BEING A COMMISSIONER AND DOING IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE CITY. THANK YOU ALL. I ENJOYED MY TIME AND ENJOYED, WISH YOU ALL WELL ENJOYED. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE WILL, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] UH, MOVE ON TO THE MINUTES, UH, FROM THE REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 12TH, 2026. UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? UH, SEEING NONE, MR. HANG. NO, NO CHANGES. OKAY. SEEING NONE, UH, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED, UH, WITHOUT ANY AMENDMENTS. UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. UH, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM TONIGHT THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? ANY TAKERS? SEE NONE. WE WILL MOVE ON, UH, TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WE HAVE NO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD, [2. CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 26-03, TO OBTAIN A TYPE 20 (OFF-SITE BEER AND WINE) LICENSE WITHIN AN EXISTING SERVICE STATION WITH AN ACCESSORY CONVENIENCE STORE.] UH, TO PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT. WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. UH, FIRST WE WILL HEAR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 26 DASH OH THREE CQ EXEMPT EX EXEMPTION TYPE SECTION. UH, 15 3 0 1 CLASS ONE EXISTING, UH, FACILITIES. UM, AND THE APPLICANT FOR THAT IS SHERRY OLSON, AND THE LOCATION IS 1200 SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO OBTAIN A TYPE 20 OFFSITE BEER AND WINE LICENSE WITH AN EXISTING 2,250 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE KNOWN AS CIRCLE K AT A SERVICE STATION KNOWN AS 76, UH, LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL, UH, MIXED USE NMU ZONE ARTURO, WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF, UH, REPORT. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, ASSISTANT PLANNER ALICIA MAYS WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CHAIR. THIS PRESENTATION IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 26 DASH THREE FOR THE SER FOR THE 76 SERVICE STATION. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS BEING REQUESTED [00:05:01] FOR THE OFF SALE OF BEER AND WINE WITHIN THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE. THE ZONE OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH THE CONVENIENCE STORE IS LOCATED IN, IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MIXED USE. THE LOCATION IS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE AND WEST MERCED AVENUE. THESE SURROUNDING USES ARE COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE. UM, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. THE RED COLOR IS THE DEFINED AREA THAT IS FOR THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF NINE ONSITE PARKING SPACES, WHICH COMPLIES WITH THE WEST COVINA DEVELOPMENT CODE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR GENERAL RETAIL. THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. THERE ARE FOUR PROPOSED ALCOHOL COOLERS INDICATED BY THE BLUE COLORING. THERE IS ONE BULK DISPLAY INDICATED BY THE RED COLORING. THESE INDICATED AREAS WILL COMPLY WITH THE 10% MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE RETAIL FLOOR AREA FOR THE DISPLAY AND SALE OF ALCOHOL AS PERMISSIBLE BY THE WEST COVINA DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, FOR THE BUSINESS OPERATION, THE SERVICE STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE WILL CONTINUE TO BE OPERATED. THERE WILL BE FIVE TO 10 EMPLOYEES. THE APPLICANT HAS A TRAINING PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR AGE RESTRICTED SALES TO ENSURE NO UNDERAGE PRODUCTS WILL BE SOLD. THE BUSINESS HOURS ARE FROM 4:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. HOWEVER, BEER AND WINE SALES ARE LIMITED BETWEEN 6:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT. THERE ARE FOUR ALCOHOL LICENSES CURRENTLY ISSUED WITHIN THE SUBJECT CENSUS TRACT, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THREE OFF SALE LICENSES. SK MINI MAR, INC. ON 6 0 5 EAST FRANCISCO AVENUE IN WEST COVINA RANCH TOWN MARKET ON 5 2 2 EAST VINE AVENUE IN WEST COVINA. ROCKVIEW DAIRY ON 5 5 1 EAST VINE AVENUE IN WEST COVINA, SEVEN 11 ON 1818 NORTH HACIENDA BOULEVARD IN LA PUENTE. AND FOR REFERENCE, THERE IS A CELLAR HOUSE AND WINE SPIRITS LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE 76 AT AT 1211 SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE. BUT IT IS IN A DIFFERENT CENSUS. TRACT PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTING RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 6 180 3 APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 26 DASH THREE. THANK YOU. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE AS WELL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS AT THIS JUNCTURE FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE GONNA FIRST, UH, HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE APPLICANT, THEN THOSE IN FAVOR, FOLLOWED BY THOSE OPPOSED. UH, SO FIRST UP IS, UH, THE APPLICANT, SHERRY OLSON. GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS SHERRY OLSON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FOR CIRCLE K. UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF FOR PROBABLY SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THE STAFF IS GREAT. WE WENT BACK AND FORTH PRESENTING, UM, UH, SECURITY PLANS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, ALL OF OUR SECURITY CAMERAS AND WE DEFINITELY WILL WORK WITH, 'CAUSE I NOTICED THAT IN OUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THAT WE ALSO TO WORK WITH THE PD AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE ARE AGREEMENT WITH OUR SECURITY PLAN. UM, OUR COOLER DOORS ARE LOCKABLE. WE HAVE ALL AGE RESTRICTED, UH, CASHIER AS A POS SYSTEM. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WE'RE, WE'RE IN COM. I LIKE TO SAY WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR US THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, NEXT UP IS, I BELIEVE IT'S RAJESH VAAS. I HOPE I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY. SO MY NAME IS RAJESH, UH, I TRADE, I'M PHARMACIST AND THIS IS MY THIRD GAS STATION. AND, UH, UH, WE HAVE APPLIED FOR ALCOHOL LICENSE, UH, BECAUSE CUSTOMERS DEMANDED IT, YOU KNOW, AFTER I TOOK OVER. AND, UH, I WANNA THANK, UH, THE CITY, UH, FOR ALLOWING ME TO OPERATE IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA. UH, I HAD A VERY PLEASANT EXPERIENCE WITH THE STAFF, UH, FOR ALL THE PERMITS AND, UH, WHATEVER TRANSACTIONS WE HAD DURING THIS TENURE. AND, UH, I WANNA PROMISE TO GIVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO THE COMMUNITY [00:10:01] AND THE PEOPLE. UH, IT'S JUST ONE MISSING PART OF THE PUZZLE THAT WE HAVE TO ADD TO GROW THE BUSINESS AND TO GIVE ONE MORE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONER. NO. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. RIGHT. UM, ANY FURTHER, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT? WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ANYONE OPPOSED? ANYONE NEUTRAL? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN OPEN COMMISSION DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT. THE, UH, THE ONLY ISSUE I WANT TO DISCUSS TONIGHT IS, AND I, I THINK WE SORT OF, UH, GOT IN THE HABIT OF, OF DOING THIS JUST SORT OF AS A GENERAL PROPOSITION, AS PART OF OUR CS AND I, I DON'T THINK IT'S, UH, AFTER KNOWING WHAT I KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD PRACTICE FOR US TO ENDORSE THIS. UM, SO THERE IS A, UH, THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT'S FOUND, UH, IN PARAGRAPH FIVE OH, THAT SAYS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL OR ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE MEASURES, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, THE INSTALLATION OF SUFFICIENT CAMERAS OR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS FLOCK CAMERAS AND OR CAMERAS WITH LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION AS DETERMINED NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS, UH, FUNDAMENTALLY AT ODDS WITH WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AT THIS COMMISSION. UM, IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WANT TO ENGAGE DIRECTLY WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT, I THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN DO SO. UM, HOWEVER, I THINK THAT MANDATING THIS COULD BE POTENTIALLY, UH, OPENING US TO US UP TO POTENTIAL LIABILITY FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA VALUES ACT. AND I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD. SO I WOULD LIKE THAT ENTIRE SENTENCE TO BE STRICKEN. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THOSE CHANGES. UH, CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY ASTUTE PERSPECTIVE. UM, WE DO, WE DO AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY ON THIS, AND WE TRY TO, UM, CONDITION THAT, UM, WRITE THAT CONDITION WITH SOME FLEXIBILITY. SO WHAT WE WANT, OUR INTENT HERE IS NOT TO FORCE A TYPE OF CAMERA OR A TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, COOKIE CUTTER DESIGN ON SOMEBODY. OUR INTENT IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO COORDINATE WITH PD, UM, IN DESIGNING A SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM THAT WORKS FOR, FOR EVERYBODY. UM, AND I THINK YOU'RE REFERENCING SECTION OR, UM, CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, 11, CORRECT? YEAH, IT'S CONDITION OF APPROVAL. I BELIEVE IT'S SECTION, SECTION FOUR, UH, PARAGRAPH, UH, EXCUSE ME, SECTION FOUR, PARAGRAPH O SECTION OR SUBPARAGRAPH. OI, I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT, BUT IF WE LOOK FURTHER TO THE RESOLUTION, UH, I MISSED THAT 11. WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON? I DON'T, UH, PAGE FIVE OF THE RESOLUTION. I'M LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 6 1 8 3. AND YOU GO TO, UH, SECTION FOUR. AND THEN THERE'S PARAGRAPH FIVE THAT HAS A THROUGH V. AND I'M SPECIFICALLY REFERENCING THE SUBSECTION O, OF COURSE. UM, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT REWRITTEN? I JUST WANT THE SENTENCE THAT BEGINS WITH THE POLICE REPORT, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ENDS IN THE WORD PUBLIC SAFETY TO BE EXCISED FROM THAT. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE PARAGRAPH THAT HAS THE MENTION OF THE FLOCK CAMERA SPECIFICALLY? THAT IS CORRECT. THE, THE SENTENCE THAT'S VERY LONG. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. UM, CAN I HEAR A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE WITH THE REDACTION OF THAT SENTENCE THAT READS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE? SO THIS CONDITION WILL REMAIN EXCEPT FOR THE SECTION THAT STATES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL OR ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE MEASURES, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, THE INSTALLATION OF SUFFICIENT CAMERAS OR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS FLOCK CAMERAS AND THEIR CAMERAS WITH LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION AS DETERMINED NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT IS CORRECT. THE REST OF THAT CONDITION WILL REMAIN CORRECT, EXCEPT FOR IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I THINK THE APPLICANT IS PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF COMING TO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND AS A SECONDARY MATTER, IF WE HAVE SUCH ISSUES, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING [00:15:01] IT BACK. IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. AND, AND AS I MENTIONED, WE TRY TO BUILD IN SOME FLEXIBILITY WITHOUT TYING SOMEBODY, UM, OR WITHOUT TYING THE APPLICANT TO A PARTICULAR BRAND OR TYPE OF OF CAMERA. SO, UM, DO WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME, BUT HASN'T THIS BEEN A PREREQUISITE ON EVERY OTHER APPLICATION, CPI MEAN, HAVEN'T THEY ALL HAD TO HAVE THE THOUGHT CAMERAS? HASN'T THAT, HASN'T THAT BEEN A REQUIREMENT? THAT HAS BEEN A REQUIREMENT AND, UM, BUT, BUT, AND THAT WAS NOT NOT LEGAL OR, OR PUTTING US AT RISK? NO, IT WAS, IT, IT WAS, IT IT WAS APPROVED THAT WAY PREVIOUSLY. SO WHAT, WHY, I MEAN, WELL, NOT BECAUSE, UH, CHAIR LEWIS IS ASKING FOR THAT TO BE MODIFIED. OKAY. BUT SO NOW THIS APPLICANT WOULD NOT HAVE TO, NO, THE APPLICANT WILL STILL NEED TO COORDINATE WITH PD TO SUBMIT A, A SURVEILLANCE PLAN. UH, THE DELETION WILL BE JUST A SENTENCE REQUIRING, UM, ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS FLOCK, CAMERAS, ET CETERA. SO WE JUST, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE CRUMBS, WE JUST CAN'T PUT IT IN THE WRITING IN THE RESOLUTION. IS THAT CORRECT? WE, WE CAN, WE CAN, IF, IF, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THIS MODIFICATION ISN'T PASSED, THEN THE NEXT MOTION WOULD BE HAVE WE APPROVED ALL THE OTHERS WITH THE SAME VERBIAGE, OR IS THIS DIFFERENT? NO, THE VERBIAGE IS DIFFERENT. THE VERBIAGE IS NOW A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE THAN PREVIOUS. THE PREVIOUS ONES FROM MY RECOLLECTION, AND, AND I WASN'T HERE FOR THESE, BUT WE DID REVIEW THOSE, UM, THE PREVIOUS ONES SPECIFIED FLOCK CAMERAS. OKAY. MY QUESTION IS, COMMISSIONER BENNETT, SORRY, BRIEF COMMISSIONER BENNETT. SO JUST TO COMMISSIONER, UH, LEWIS CHAIR LEWIS, ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT IT'S MENTIONING A SPECIFIC BRAND OF CAMERA OR ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF A LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION IN GENERAL? ULTIMATELY, THE, THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS THAT THE APRS CAN BE USED IN AN ABUSIVE MANNER, AND IF WE ENGAGE IN MANDATING THEIR USAGE AND THEY ARE SHARED WITH ENTITIES, YOU, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SHARED WITH ENTITIES THAT THIS STATE HAS DETERMINED THAT IT IS OPPOSED TO WE COULD BE POTENTIALLY LIABLE BECAUSE WE ARE THEN A STATE, THEY BECOME VIS-A-VIS US, A STATE ACTOR. THIS IS BASIC CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THEM. OKAY. I THINK I HEARD ABOUT THAT AS WELL. I, I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION. ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR LEWIS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BENNETT. UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE. NO. COMMISSIONER BERA? NO. COMMISSIONER BENNETT? YES. VICE CHAIR. UH, UH, CHAIR LEWIS? AYE, UH, MOTION FAILS. TWO. TWO? YES. ALL RIGHT. BACK TO DISCUSSION. IS THERE A COUNTER MOTION OR A NEW MOTION? WELL, I THINK THE ALCOHOL SALES IN GAS STATIONS AREA IN WEST COVINA IS RE IT'S PRETTY NEW TO US. THAT'S WHY THESE CAMERAS AND THESE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS ARE IN THERE. IT'S BASICALLY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES IN THE FUTURES THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY, IF THERE IS ANY, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY AID THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN HELP WORK TOGETHER TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES. POTENTIALLY. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, GAS STATION WAS NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO SELL ALCOHOL IN WEST CARINA. SO IT'S BEEN, SINCE THE EXISTING IN WEST CARINA, THERE'S NO ALCOHOL SALE. SO FOR THAT REASON, AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S RELATIVELY NEW, AND I'M HOPING THAT THE OWNER WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL THE ISSUES AND THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME TO A POINT THAT INVOLVED THE OFFICERS IN RIGHT OF YOU. BUT IF IT COMES TO A TIME THAT IF THE OFFICER NEEDS HELP AID IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE THEFT ISSUES OR THE ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL ABUSE ISSUES, WHATEVER ISSUE THAT MAY HAPPEN, AT LEAST THE OFFICER HAVE SOME TOOLS TO HELP OUT. INSTEAD OF SENDING OFFICER OUT THERE PATROLLING JUST ONE GAS STATION. I'M, I'M HOPING THAT NEVER HAPPENED, BUT THIS IS AN OPTION FOR THAT REASON. I THINK IT SHOULD JUST REMAIN IN, BE MORE, LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND CHIME IN HERE. UH, BRIEFLY. UH, ARTURO AND I DID DISCUSS THIS, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING, UM, WITH JUST STRIKING THAT ONE SENTENCE AND YOUR, UH, THE CHAIR'S CONCERNS ARE WELL TAKEN. THERE HAVE BEEN RECENT PROBLEMS WITH THE FLOCK [00:20:01] CAMERA SYSTEM SPECIFICALLY. UM, THIS, THIS CONDITION AS THE AMENDED MOTION HAD PROPOSED, WOULD, UM, WOULD KEEP A SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM IN, WOULD STILL REQUIRE A PLAN TO BE PROVIDED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD STILL BE WORKING WITH THE VENDOR, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THAT SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM, THE ORIENTATION OF THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM, UM, WHETHER THAT'S SUFFICIENT. AND, UM, REALLY WHAT WAS STRIKING IS JUST THE REFERENCE TO FLOCK GIVEN THE, GIVEN THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN ATTENDANT TO FLOCK IN RECENT RESPONSE. SO VERY RECENT, WE MAY, WE HAVE HAD THAT LANGUAGE IN PREVIOUS, UM, UH, CONDITIONS AND WE'RE JUST MOVING AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE IT FLOCK ISN'T A TYPE OF CAMERA, IT'S A BRAND MM-HMM . AND WE, WE, WE DON'T, THEY, THEY CAN USE ANOTHER BRAND. WE DON'T, WE NEED TO BE LOCKING PEOPLE INTO FLOCK, PER SE, IN SPECIFYING THE BRAND. THEY'RE NOT OMITTED FROM HAVING THE SECURITY CAMERAS OR THEY, THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS UNDER THE CONDITION AND THAT SECURITY AND THAT, AND THAT SURVEILLANCE PLAN HAS TO BE COORDINATED WITH THE, WITH THE PD. SO PERHAPS THAT, I HOPE THAT CLARIFIED THE ISSUE A BIT. YEAH, I MEAN, AND, AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT THE PD CAN CERTAINLY CONDITION THE RESOLUTION SURVEILLANCE LEVEL SO THAT THINGS ARE PROPERLY CAUGHT ON CAMERA. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, USING A, A, A HAMMER TO, UH, TO UNDERMINE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY OF THIS COMMISSION. IT'S REALLY A SCALPEL. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. SO ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, IF, IF THERE'S NOT A COUNTER MOTION, I GUESS, UM, I, I WOULD JUST MOVE THAT WE SEND THIS TO, UH, SEND THIS TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I, I THINK WE'RE AT IMPASSE. SO, UM, DO WE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER BENNETT? WELL, UNLESS ONE OF, BECAUSE THE MOTION DID NOT PASS UNLESS, UH, EITHER COMMISSIONER BETA OR, UH, COMMISSIONER HANK WOULD LIKE TO RECONSIDER THE MOTION. I I WOULD, YES. BECAUSE HONESTLY, THE FLOCK CAMERAS JUST TO ME, UH, REPRESENTED A SECURITY SYSTEM, NOT A BRAND. SO IF WE'RE STILL ENTERTAINING THE, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENT OF CAMERAS JUST NOT THAT BRAND, THEN YES, YOU WOULD. OKAY. SO THE, THE MOTION, WE WILL RECONSIDER THE MOTION, UH, CHAIR YOUR MOTION AS, BUT THE AMENDMENT STILL STANDS. YES. SO CAN YOU READ THE, UM, AMENDMENT AGAIN, OR THE MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENTS? UH, THE, THE, UH, THE AMENDMENT WOULD READ, UM, WOULD DELETE THE SECTION. UM, UNDER O THE SECTION THAT READS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL OR ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE MEASURES, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, THE INSTALLATION OF SUFFICIENT CAMERAS OR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS FLOCK, CAMERAS AND OR CAMERAS. WITH LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION AS DETERMINED NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT WILL BE DELETED. THE AMENDED, UM, O WOULD READ, THE OPERATOR SHALL SUBMIT A SURVEILLANCE PLAN TO THE CITY AND THE WEST COVINA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO INSTALLATION. THE PLAN SHALL IDENTIFY THE LOCATION, ORIENTATION, COVERAGE AND SPECIFICATIONS OF ALL CAMERAS, AND SHALL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT COVERAGE OF THE PREMISES, INCLUDING ENTRANCES, EXITS, VEHICLE PATHS, PARKING AREAS, AND OTHER AREAS IDENTIFIED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ALL VIDEO RECORDINGS SHALL BE RETAINED FOR A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS AND MADE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OR POLICE DEPARTMENT UPON REQUEST TO ASSIST WITH ISSUES REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY, INVESTIGATIONS, COMPLAINTS, ENFORCEMENT MATTERS, OR SIMILAR. THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM SHALL BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE ALCOHOL LICENSE AND PRIOR TO THE SALE OF ANY ALCOHOL PRODUCTS. SO THERE WILL BE NO MORE LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION, IS THAT CORRECT? NOT NECESSARILY. IT'LL COME DOWN TO, UM, WHAT PD REQUIRES. UM, AND NOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR, THE, THE, THE AMENDED CODE FROM 24 DOES SPECIFICALLY SAY FLOCK CAMERAS. BUT I THINK THE, THE SENSE IS THAT THE, UM, UH, THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE LICENSE PLATE READING TECHNOLOGY. SO AGAIN, AS, UM, COUNCIL MENTIONED, FLOCK IS A BRAND. SO IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO TIE SOMEBODY TO, TO THAT BRAND IN THAT SERVICE. AND FROM DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD FROM OTHER OPERATORS, UM, THEY OVERCHARGE [00:25:01] THEY COST QUITE A BIT MM-HMM . BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE, WHY CAN'T WE JUST, INSTEAD OF REMOVING THAT ENTIRE SENTENCE, JUST REMOVE THE FLOCK PORTION OUT OF IT? ABSOLUTELY. IF WE'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT OR, UM, UM, A MOTION TO REMOVE THE FLOCK PORTION OF IF THAT WAS A, IF THAT'S A BRAND, IF THAT, IF THAT'S AN ISSUE. SO AT LEAST NEED THE CIVILIANS STILL IN THERE. UM, THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, THE INSTALLATION OF SUFFICIENT CAMERAS OR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY ARE STILL THERE. MM-HMM . THE REQUIREMENT AND JUST REMOVE THE FLOCK. WE'LL ASK THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION, IF IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU AS AN AMENDMENT? NO WAY. YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SENTENCE REMOVED. EVEN THAT, THE, THE FACT IS, IS THAT ONCE YOU GET INTO THE A LPR BUSINESS, IT IS DRAGNET SURVEILLANCE. AND ULTIMATELY THE CLOUD-BASED SHARING OF ALL OF THIS DATA CAN BE SHARED WITH OUTSIDE ENTITIES THAT THIS STATE LEGISLATURE HAS DETERMINED OUR IMPERMISSIBLE PARTIES TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. SO THE ANSWER IS NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. IT IS A BAD IDEA AND WE'RE GONNA GET SUED AND WE'RE GONNA LOSE. SO WE'RE NO LONGER TALK ABOUT. SO IF YOU WANNA GO DOWN THAT ROAD, THAT'S FINE. CAMERA, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SECURITY AND SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE CAMERA VIDEO. SO WE WE'RE NO LONGER TALK ABOUT FLOCK, THE BRAND FLOCK CAMERA PER SE. REMOVING THAT SECTION WOULD, WOULD ELIMINATE THE RE THE ABILITY FOR PD TO ASK FOR ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE. NOW, YOU STILL HAVE THAT, THAT VERY IMPORTANT FIRST SENTENCE. THE OPERATOR SHALL SUBMIT A SURVEILLANCE PLAN TO THE CITY AND POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO INSTALLATION. I THINK THAT THAT'S A SENTIMENT WE'RE TRYING TO GET ACROSS IS, IS IN THIS CONDITION, IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COORDINATE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO, TO IMPLEMENT A SURVEILLANCE PLAN. I SURE. SO WE'RE PASSING IT TO, I MEAN, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY APPROVE IT HERE, THEN WHY DON'T WE SEND IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? WE DID, WE CIRCULATE, UM, THE PLANS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS, UH, PART OF OUR, UM, COMMENT COLLECTION, UH, PERIOD. UM, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, BUT IN PHONE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. UM, WE'VE KIND OF, UH, WE'VE KIND OF COME TO, TO THIS LANGUAGE, SOMETHING THAT'S AGAIN, FLEXIBLE. UM, THIS LANGUAGE, WE DON'T FEEL LOCK STEM TWO FLOCK CAMERAS IS, AGAIN, IT SAYS, UM, TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS FLOCK CAMERAS AND CAMERAS WITH LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION AS DETERMINED NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO COME TO, WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, LAND AT, AT, AT LANGUAGE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBLE, THAT A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE YET REQUIRES COORDINATION BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND, AND POLICE. OKAY. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE, I MEAN, I GET IT. YEAH. I GET WHAT HE'S SAYING. I GET WHAT, WHY THIS IS A CONCERN, BUT ALL THE OTHER ITEMS DON'T SEEM TO BE, YOU KNOW, EXTRA LIGHTING. WHAT'S WRONG WITH GETTING, YOU KNOW, UM, SUFFICIENT CAMERAS OR OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO, YOU KNOW, DESIGN THAT. BUT I MEAN, I JUST DON'T SEE ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED. I, I, I WAS GONNA SAY C UH, COMMISSIONER BECERRA, I, I WOULD TAKE THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, JUST SO LONG AS IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PRIOR SENTENCE. AND IT SHOULD BE, THE PLAN SHALL IDENTIFY THE LOCATION, ORIENTATION, COVERAGE, AND SPECIFICATION OF ALL CAMERAS, AND SHE'LL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT COVERAGE OF THE PREMISES, INCLUDING, UH, EXITS OR ENTRANCES, EXITS, VEHICLE PATHS, PARKING AREAS. I'M SORRY, WHERE ARE YOU READING? I DON'T SEE THAT TOP OR, UH, IN SUB O. OKAY. YEAH, THE, UM, IT'S THE SECOND, UH, SECOND SENTENCE OF THAT PARAGRAPH. THE PLAN SHALL IDENTIFY THE LOCATION, ORIENTATION, UH, COVERAGE AND SPECIFICATIONS OF ALL CAMERAS, AND SHALL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT COVERAGE OF THE PREMISES, UM, INCLUDING ENTRANCES, EXITS, VEHICLE PATHS, PARKING AREAS, UH, AND, UH, PARKING AREAS AND OTHER AREAS IDENTIFIED, UM, UH, BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MAY INCLUDE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF ADDITIONAL LIGHTING. OKAY. SO WHEN WE TAKE OUT THAT NEXT SENTENCE, THEN THE PERMIT HAS TO HAVE THE STAMP OF APPROVAL FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THEY, THEY CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A SYSTEM. SO I MEAN, THAT, THAT VERBIAGE SHOULD BE PUT IN THERE AT, AT FINAL, IT [00:30:01] WOULD HAVE A A, THIS WOULD BE CONDITIONAL UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE FINAL DESIGN OF THEIR SECURITY SYSTEM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. CORRECT. AND I THINK SENTENCE ONE, THE FIRST SENTENCE AND THE LAST SENTENCE, TRY TO, THEY TIE IT TOGETHER. THE OPERATOR SHALL SUBMIT A SURVEILLANCE PLAN TO THE CITY AND PD FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO ITS INSTALLATION. AND THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM SHALL BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF AN ALCOHOL LICENSE AND PRIOR TO THE SALE OF ALCOHOL PRODUCTS. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER BENNETT HAD, HAS BEEN WAITING QUITE PATIENTLY. COMMISSIONER BENNETT, THANK YOU. UM, SO I'LL GET THIS OUTTA THE WAY. I PERSONALLY WASN'T IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW ALCOHOL SALES AT GAS STATIONS. IT WAS CHANGED IN THE CITY. SO I'M JUST GONNA PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT RIGHT AWAY, I, I WASN'T IN FAVOR OF THAT. HOWEVER, THE CITY COUNCIL MADE THAT CHANGE AND THIS COMMISSION BEFORE I WAS ON IT, MADE THIS CHANGE. SO I, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH CHAIR LEWIS THAT THE LEGAL ISSUE WITH THE L-A-L-P-R CAMERAS IS A CONCERN. SO I AGREE THAT I THINK THE FRIENDLY MOTION, IF IT'S THE WAY HE WORDED IT WORKS. SO I WOULD SECOND THAT FRIENDLY MOTION AND MAINTAIN MY SECOND. THE, THE THING THAT I'M BASICALLY NOTICING IS THAT YOU'RE TAKING OUT, UH, ADDITIONAL ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE MEASURES IS BASICALLY THE ONLY WORDS YOU'RE TAKING OUTTA THAT SENTENCE. CORRECT. I BELIEVE WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING OUT THAT ENTIRE SENTENCE AND, UM, AND, AND JUST ADDING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, UM, AS IT SO DETERMINES APPLICABLE BECAUSE THE REMAINDER OF THAT, UH, COULD BE POTENTIALLY A, UH, A, A WIDE GRANT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE A BAD ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION THAT GETS THE CITY INTO POTENTIAL LEGAL TROUBLE. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE AUTHORIZING THAT AFFIRMATIVELY, IF THEY MAKE THAT DECISION INDEPENDENTLY, THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE US THAT STANDS BY IDLY AND, AND GRANTS OR GRANTS. THAT CHARTER OF AUTHORITY. I, I THINK THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE. SO, SO WITH THE WAY YOU JUST WORDED THAT, I WOULD MAINTAIN A SECOND IF THAT'S THE AMENDMENT. SO, SO WHAT YOU'LL BE MOVING IS OUT OF THAT WHOLE SENTENCE IS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL, WHICH IS GONNA BE, BE MOVED. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL OR ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS MEASURES, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, THE INSTALLATION OF SUFFICIENT CAMERAS OR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS CAMERAS OR CAMERAS WITH LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION. SO ALL THAT PORTION IS GONNA BE REMOVED. SO THERE'S REALLY, YOU DON'T WANT THE POLICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY INPUT, AND THIS IS THEIR INPUT. BY THE WAY, THIS WHOLE SENTENCE IS INPUTTED BY THE POLICE PER, UH, PLANNING DIRECTORS. RIGHT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TYING THEIR HANDS. SO THEIR INPUT IS TO INCLUDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE MEASURES, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL LIGHT, THE INSTALLATION OF SUFFICIENT CAMERAS OR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FLOCK CAMERAS AND OR CAMERAS WITH LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION AS DETERMINED NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. NOW, WE'LL BE MOVING ALL THAT SENTENCE. THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT ASKING THE POLICE TO ASK FOR THIS, WHICH HAS BEEN REQUESTED FOR IN THE PAST. AND LIKE COMMISSIONER STEVE BENNETT HAD JUST MENTIONED SEVERAL YEARS PRIOR TO THIS, NONE OF THE GAS STATIONS WOULD ALLOW ALCOHOL NOW THAT IT WAS APPROVED. THESE ARE LITTLE PRECAUTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO INCIDENTS THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE IN THE FUTURE. AND GOOD, I, I WAS JUST GONNA COMMENT TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND ONE OF THE THINGS COMMISSIONER HANG IS THE COURTS AND THE LEGISLATURE HAVE CHANGED SINCE SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS BASED ON CURRENT LAW, CURRENT STATUTES, CURRENT SITUATIONS GOING ON IN SACRAMENTO, EVERYWHERE ELSE, THOSE PREVIOUS ONES WERE DONE BEFORE THAT. SO JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DONE BEFORE DOES NOT MEAN THAT THAT APPLIES TO THE CURRENT SITUATION. SO I, I MEAN, I, I THINK, BUT ACCORDING TO OUR LAWYER, SHE HAD MENTIONED THE FLOCK IS AN ISSUE, THE, THE WORD FLOCK IN THERE, BUT THE CIVILIANS AND ALL THAT CAN BE IN THERE. WE JUST DON'T WANNA USE THE, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THAT THE FLOCK, THE FLOCK, THE, AND THE TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE. AND I DID WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE POLICE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT THEY ASKED FOR WAS A SURVEILLANCE PLAN. THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WITH THEM. WHEN WE CIRCULATE, UM, WHEN WE CIRCULATE THESE PLANS, WE USUALLY GET AN EMAIL FROM THEM AND THEY SAY NO COMMENTS. UM, IN THAT WE HAD, UM, A DISCUSSION BEYOND THAT EMAIL. WE HAD A DISCUSSION REGARDING [00:35:01] WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE, AND IT REALLY JUST BOILED DOWN TO A SURVEILLANCE PLAN. NOW, THE FLOCK SECTION IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CODE, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU SAW IT ON PREVIOUS APPROVALS. OUR, OUR ZONING CODE SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT FLOCK CAMERAS AS A REQUIREMENT FOR SERVICE STATIONS SELLING BEER AND WINE. SO YOUR MODIFICATION WOULD BE CONTRARY TO WHAT'S IN OUR CODE, UM, WHICH IS, IS FINE. UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, REVIEWED AND, AND PASSED BY BOTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL, UH, IN 23 AND 24. SO, I MEAN, MY POSITION IS THIS. I, I DIDN'T WANT THE ALCOHOL AND GAS STATIONS, THAT RULE WAS CHANGED. SO TONIGHT I HAVE A DIFFERENT DECISION THAN WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE TWO YEARS AGO. JUST LIKE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HAS A DIFFERENT DECISION ON THE FLOCK CAMERAS OR LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION BECAUSE THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED. SO IT, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME FOR ME IN DIFFERENT REALMS. AND I, I SUPPORT ENHANCED SECURITY AND ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE. I'M FINE WITH IT. I, I GET THE IMPRESSION IF I READ SHERIFF LEWIS IS HE WANTS THEM TO MAKE THE DECISION ON THE A LPR CAMERAS, NOT THE CITY FORCED THEM TO USE AN A LPR CAMERA BECAUSE IT COULD TIE US INTO A LEGAL BATTLE BECAUSE WE ARE NOW REQUIRING THEM, THEY BECOME BASICALLY A STATE ACTOR, IF I UNDERSTAND HIS ARGUMENT. NO, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN AGREED. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL RIGHTS WE'RE TALKING IS WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANNA PROMOTE FLOCK CAMERAS. WE'RE IN AGREEMENT. MAYBE THEY'RE TOO INVASIVE. WE'RE NOT. BUT I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF, IF THE TOP, IF LEGAL, YOU KNOW, UH, SAYS THAT WE ARE OKAY WITH THE FIRST, AND THAT WOULD GIVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SUFFICIENT, UM, YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, GOVERN THIS. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GONNA MAKE THE DECISIONS. NOW, FROM THE TIME WE APPROVE THIS, THEY HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHATEVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I JUST THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE, I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S THE VERBIAGE THERE. YOU ALREADY MADE THAT CLEAR . SO I JUST THINK THAT, UH, LIKE THE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, SUFFICIENT LIGHTING, UM, I, I DON'T SEE WHAT, WHAT'S WRONG WITH MAKING SURE THEY, IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAYS THEY NEED TO HAVE BETTER LIGHTING, I, I THINK HE'S OPEN TO THAT. I AGREE. I PUT THAT I, I TOOK THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND I INCLUDED THAT. YOU DID? OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. SO, JUST SOME QUICK HOUSEKEEPING. SORRY, DIDN'T MEAN TO BE THE PARLIAMENTARY AUTHORITARIAN , THE WORST KIND OF AUTHORITARIAN. UM, SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS ON A RECONSIDERATION, LET'S FIRST DO A VOTE TO HAVE THE RECONSIDERATION. THE VOTE HAS TO COME FROM EITHER, UH, COMMISSIONER ERRA OR HANG TO RECONSIDER A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. I MOTION TO RECONSIDER. AND ANYBODY CAN SECOND THAT, BUT IT'S OKAY TO BE DOING THIS RECONSIDERATION. ANYBODY CAN SECOND IT. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. AND THEN JUST A QUICK VOTE FOR RECONSIDERING. RIGHT, UM, ARTURO ROLL CALL PLEASE. AYE. COMMISSIONER BERA. AYE. COMMISSIONER BENNETT. AYE. CHAIR LEWIS. AYE. NOW THE PATH IS CLEARED FOR THE SUBSTANTIVE MOTION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, POTENTIALLY A NEW MOTION. UM, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF, LET ME GO BACK TO THE, THE FRONT PAGE MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 6 180 3 WITH THE AMENDMENT TO SECTION FOUR, UH, SUBSECTION FOR PARAGRAPH O. UM, REMOVING THE, THE SENTENCE THAT BEGINS WITH THE POLICE, POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE, UM, AND, AND ENDING IN THE WORDS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. UM, AND ADDING IN THAT, UM, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE, UM, ADDITIONAL MEASURES, UM, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IN THE EVENT THAT IT FINDS SUCH LIGHTING INSUFFICIENT OR MAY REQUIRE THE INSTALLATION OF, UH, ADDITIONAL CAMERAS. UH, IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, THERE IS, THEY MAKE A FINDING THAT THERE IS INSUFFICIENT COVERAGE OF THE PRE OF THE PREMISES. I WILL MAINTAIN MY SECOND RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, ROLL CALL PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HANG. [00:40:01] NO. COMMISSIONER RA AYE. COMMISSIONER BENNETT. AYE. CHAIR LEWIS. AYE. MOTION PASSES. AND THIS DECISION WILL REQUEST PRESENTED TO COUNCIL WITHIN, OH, SORRY. THIS DECISION WILL BE FINAL UNLESS A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR APPEAL IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS. I APOLOGIZE. MY MIC WAS MUTED. UM, MOVING [3. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 26-01 ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT NO. 26-12 MINOR SITE PLAN REVIEW NO. 26-26] ON TO THE, THE, UH, NEXT PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING. UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 26 DASH OH ONE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT. UH, NUMBER 26 DASH 12 MINOR SITE PLAN REVIEW NUMBER 26 DASH 26 CQA EXEMPTION TYPE, UH, SECTION, UH, 15 3 0 1 CLASS ONE EXISTING, UH, FACILITIES. I BELIEVE IT'S CHOI ENTERPRISE THREE LLC IS THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR THE LOCATION LOCATED AT 6 1 0 SOUTH SUNSET. UH, IT'S TO ESTABLISH NEW RESTAURANT USE WITH LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND THE ADDITION OF AN ENCLOSED PATIO FOR DINING. UH, ARTURO, WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT. UH, THANK YOU. CONTRACT PLANNER SONIA GREGO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT. JUST GIVE US A FEW SECONDS. GOOD EVENING. UM, HONORABLE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. UM, THIS EVENING I HAVE FOR YOU IS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 26 DASH ZERO ONE, UH, ADMINISTRATION PERMIT NUMBER 26 12. AND A MINOR SIDE PLAN JUST TURNING ON THE TV, A MINOR SIDE PLAN NUMBER 26 26. UM, THE PROJECTS ON THE PROJECT SITES AT, UH, 6 6 1 ON SOUTH SUNSET AVENUE. THE PROJECT REQUIRES MULTIPLE APPROVALS, UM, ADMINISTRATION PERMIT FOR THE ALCOHOL SERVICE WITHIN THE RESTAURANT AND OUTDOOR DINING, UM, MINOR SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR A PROPOSED ADDITION TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. ALTHOUGH THAT THE ADMINISTRATION PERMIT AND THE MINOR SITE PLAN REVIEW GENERAL APPROVES ADMINISTRATIVELY, UM, THE PROPOSED LIVE ENTERTAINMENT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PLANNING, COMMISSION REVIEW AND APPROVAL. BECAUSE THE PROJECT INCLUDES MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS, THE APPLICATION REQUIRES THE HIGHEST LEVEL REVIEW, ESTABLISH THE REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE PROJECT, THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND, AND CODE REQUIRES RESTAURANTS WITH ALCOHOL SERVICE WITH A GENERAL URBAN ZONE. UM, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT IS PERMITTED SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CUP. UM, THE PROPOSED LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IS INTENDED TO REMAIN AN ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY RESTAURANT USE. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER, NUMBER 26 DASH ZERO ONE TO ALLOW THE LIVE DETAINMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPERATION OF A NEW FOOD SERVICE SEAFOOD RESTAURANT CALLED MARI. CIAO. AT SIX 10 SOUTH SUNSET AVENUE, THE PROPERTY HAS LOT SIZE OF 42,279 SQUARE FEET. THE BUILDING HAS AN EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 11,720. UM, THE ZONE IS ZONED GENERAL URBAN. UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SUNSET AVENUE AND PLAZA DRIVE. THE SURROUNDING USES, UM, IS COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES, [00:45:01] AND WE HAD THE CIVIC CENTER ACROSS THE STREET. UM, THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS PREVIOUS OCCUPIED BY SEARS OTTER CENTER. UH, THIS IS GIVES YOU A SITE PLAN, UM, OVERVIEW OF THE, UM, PROPERTY LOCATED. IT, IT IS IN THE CORNER OF, UM, PLAZA DRIVE AND SUNSET AVENUE. YOU DO HAVE TWO E UM, ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY. I INDICATE THAT WITH THE ARROWS. YOU HAVE ONE OFF PLAZA DRIVE AND YOU HAVE ONE ON SUNSET AVENUE. UH, THIS IS A PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN. UM, YOU HAVE THE MAIN DINING ROOM AREA. UM, YOU DO HAVE THE ADDITION THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PROPOSING AS AN ENCLOSED PATIO FOR DINING. UM, AND THEN YOU DO, IT INCLUDES ALSO A PRIVATE DINING ROOM AREA AND IT ALSO INCLUDES AN ADDITIONAL, UM, FOR FUTURE RESTAURANT. THEY HAVE CARVED, UH, 3,432 SQUARE FEET, AND THAT'S IN A DIFFERENT APPLICATION IN THE FUTURE. UM, THE ELEVATION TO YOUR LEFT IS THE EXISTING NORTH ELEVATION. UM, THE PROPOSED ELEVATION ON THE, ON THE RIGHT IS YOUR NORTH ELEVATION EXACTLY THE SAME DIRECTION. UM, THIS ALSO INCLUDES, UM, THE REMODEL OF THE ENCLOSED PATIO, UM, WHICH INCLUDES A 3000, UM, 17 SQUARE FEET. I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE OF THE ELEVATIONS. UM, THE BUSINESS OPERATION PLAN, UM, INCLUDES THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPERATION OF THE NEW, UH, FOOD SERVICE SEAFOOD RESTAURANT CALLED MARICO CHOW. UM, THE OPERATION WILL OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM UH, 2:00 AM. UM, UH, ESTIMATE EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY EMPLOYED ABOUT 75 TO 100. THE REQUIRED LIVE ENTERTAINMENT CONSISTS OF LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE ON TEMPORARY MOBILE DJ PROGRAMMING, A TELEVISED AND STREAM SPORTING AND SPECIAL EVENT PROGRAMMING. LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE MAY INCLUDE CULTURAL AND CONTEMPORARY MUSIC FORMATS SUCH AS MARIACHI, NORTENO, AND SIMILAR STYLES. LIVE MUSIC WILL OCCUR ONLY WITHIN THE MAIN DINING ROOM, THE ENCLOSED PRIVATE DINING ROOM, AND THE PROPOSED ENCLOSED, UM, PATIO AREA IDENTIFIED ON THE FLOOR PLAN. THE PROPOSED OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS ARE, ARE INTENDED TO MAINTAIN ESTABLISHED PREMIER AS A RESTAURANT RATHER THAN A NIGHTCLUB STANDALONE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE. NO PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY STAGES RAISE PLATFORM. PERMANENT DJ BOOTH OR DESIGNATE DANCE FLOOR IS PROPOSED. THE RESTAURANT SOUND SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE MANAGEMENT WITH COMPLETE VALIUM CONTROL FOR THE PRIVATE DINING ROOM, MAIN DINING ROOM, AND THE PATIO AREAS AT ALL TIMES. ALL AMFA FILE SOUNDS AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT SHOULD COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF WEST COVIN NON MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE CONDITIONS APPROVAL ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PURSUE TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS CARGO EXEMPT PURSUIT TO SECTION 1 5 3 0 1 CLASS ONE EXISTING FACILITIES. AND THAT THE PROJECT INVOLVES OPERATION OF A RESTAURANT WITH LIGHT ENTERTAINMENT, WITH AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE TOGETHER WITH MINOR INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR ALTERATION AS SORTED WITH ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSALS. PLANNING. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 61 82 APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 26 DASH ZERO ONE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE PER PERMIT NUMBER 26 12 MINUS PLAN REVIEW NUMBER 26 DASH 26, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL CONTAINED THEREIN. DOES THAT COMPLETE THE STAFF? UM, THANK YOU. YEAH, I, I IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO STAFF, UM, ALSO THE APPLICANT'S HERE AS WELL. [00:50:01] EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL FIRST CALL FORWARD, UH, THE APPLICANT. I BELIEVE THAT'S, UH, RAUL GONZALEZ, I BELIEVE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING TO ALL GOOD EVENING CHAIR COMMISSIONERS, CITY STAFF, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. UH, MY NAME IS RAUL GONZALEZ. I AM THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF MARICO'S CHOICE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. WE ARE PROPOSING TO TRANSFORM THE F UH, FORMER SEARS AUTO CENTER AT SIX 10 SOUTH SUNSET AVENUE INTO A FULL SERVICE, FAMILY ORIENTED MEXICAN SEAFOOD RESTAURANT. OUR GOAL IS TO REINVEST IN THIS PROPERTY AND CREATE A WELCOMING DESTINATION FOR WEST COVINA FAMILIES, RESIDENTS, AND VISITORS. WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL BRING POSITIVE ACTIVITY TO DOWNTOWN AND SUPPORT THE CITY'S GOAL OF CERTAIN WEST COVINA REGIONAL APPEAL. THE PROJECT INCLUDES AN ENCLOSED DINING PATIO, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SERVICE, AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT THAT WILL REMAIN STRICTLY AN ACCESSORY TO THE RESTAURANT. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. MARIA SCHO IS AND WILL REMAIN A RESTAURANT FIRST. I WILL NOT OPERATE AS A NIGHTCLUB STANDALONE BAR OR LOUNGE. OUR REGULAR FOOD MENU AND FULL, FULL TABLE SERVICE WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE WHENEVER ALCOHOL OR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IS OFFERED. ENTERTAINMENT WILL REMAIN WITHIN THE APPROVED DINING AREAS WITH NO STAGE RACE PLATFORM, PERMANENT DJ BOOTH OR DESIGNATED DANCE FLOOR. WE ALSO BRING AN, WE ALSO BRING AN ESTABLISHED OPERATIONAL RECORD. WE CURRENTLY OPERATE MARICO CHOICE RESTAURANTS IN DOWNEY AND CITY OF PICO RIVERA. AS OF TODAY, BOTH LOCATIONS ARE RATED AT 4.7 STARS ON GOOGLE BASED ON MORE THAN 6,000 COMBINED REVIEWS ON YELP. DOWNEY IS RATED AT 4.4 STARS AND PICO RIVERA IS RATED AT 4.5 STARS BASED ON MORE THAN 3,600 COMBINED REVIEWS. THOSE RATINGS REFLECT THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUAL GUESTS EXPERIENCE WITH FOOD SERVICE AND HOSPITALITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE RESPONSE THAT RESPONSIBLE OPERATIONS REQUIRE MORE THAN GOOD INTENTIONS, AMPLIFIED SOUND, WILL BE ROUTED THROUGH OUR PERMANENT MANAGEMENT CONTROLLED HOUSE SOUND SYSTEM. EXTERIOR DOORS WILL REMAIN CLOSED DURING ENTERTAINMENT, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE LOCKED AND NORMAL GUEST ACCESS ALL REQUIRE EMERGENCY ACCESS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE. MANAGEMENT WILL MONITOR THE VOLUME AND REDUCE OR STOP THE SOUND WHENEVER NECESSARY. WE WILL COMPLY WITH THE APPROVED SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE REQUIREMENT AND WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY AND POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE INTEND TO EARN WEST COVE'S TRUST THROUGH THE WAY WE OPERATE EVERY DAY. WE RESPECTFULLY, RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL, FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BECOMING A POSITIVE LONG-TERM PART OF DOWNTOWN WEST COVINA. I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER BENNETT? UM, I, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING A, UH, LOUNGE OR A CLUB. UH, I REMEMBER THE DAYS OF, UH, NATIONAL SPORTS BAR IN THE RED ONION WHERE PORTO'S CURRENTLY SITS. SO, WHICH I'M DATING MYSELF BY TELLING YOU HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS. UM, SO I APPRECIATE THAT 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THE CHALLENGES THAT CAME WITH THOSE BOTH FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS THE PD. SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. I'M GOOD. NEITHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. SO WHAT ARE THE OPERATING HOURS? 10:00 AM TO 2:00 AM OH, TO 2:00 AM OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU. ALRIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, IN, UM, UM, IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT? ANYONE OPPOSED? NEUTRAL. SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER BENNETT? UM, CAN STAFF TELL US HOW LONG THE CEDARS AUTO CENTER HAS BEEN CLOSED THERE? HOW LONG IT'S BEEN VACANT? ANY IDEA? ROUGH, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACT. COUPLE OF YEARS. NO IDEA. IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS THOUGH. SO THIS IS TAKING OVER [00:55:01] BASICALLY A VACANT LAND, IN ESSENCE. VACANT BUILDING. ABSOLUTELY, YES. THANK YOU. 75 TO A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING? UH, THERE IS, UM, THE MALL IS OVER PARKED, SO THERE'S PARKING RATIOS THAT WE APPLY TO, TO THESE TYPES OF USES. UM, OUR ZONING CODE ALLOWS US TO UTILIZE FOR SHOPPING CENTERS, UH, PARKING, UH, CALCULATION OF, UM, I THINK IT'S, UH, ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY 250 SQUARE FEET OF, OF, OF, OF GROSS FLOOR AREA. SO THAT'S NOT CHANGING. SO THE GROSS FLOOR AREA IS NOT GONNA CHANGE. IN FACT, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BECOME SMALLER WITH THE KITCHEN. UM, AND OUR INTERNAL KIND OF DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE SHOW THAT THERE'S, UM, A SURPLUS OF PARKING FOR THE MALL IN EXCESS OF 200 PARKING SPACES, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 300. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR DISCUSSION? I HAVE ONE. THE, THE LOT BEHIND THE BUILDING IS THAT, WHO OWNS THAT LOT? DO WE KNOW? THE BIG, I THINK IT'S A PARKING LOT RIGHT BEHIND IT ON THE BACKSIDE. A PORTION OF THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY. DO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY HOW MUCH? UH, I HAVE. I WOULD SAY PROBABLY MORE THAN HALF. IT'S IN THE, IT'S AN AWKWARD SHAPE. UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SMALL PORTION ALMOST LIKE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE THAT'S OWNED BY, I'M NOT SURE WHO OWNS IT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. THIRD PARTY BASICALLY. YEAH. AND SO THE CITY OWNS KIND OF LIKE A DONUT AROUND THAT. SO THEY OWN, BUT THEY OWN THE MAJORITY OF THAT PARKING AREA. SO A THIRD PARTY OWNS THE DONUT HOLE AND WE OWN THE DONUT. RIGHT. RIGHT NOW THERE'S A, THERE'S A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE MALL. SO THOSE, THE PARKING, UM, GENERALLY DOESN'T CHANGE. NOW THIS, THIS PROJECT WILL, UH, REDUCE, UH, SOME OF THE PARKING THAT'S IN FRONT TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT EXPANSION. UH, BUT AGAIN, BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS THAT WE HAVE, THE INTERNAL DOCUMENTS, UH, THAT, UM, THAT ACTUALLY WERE UPDATED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UH, SHOW THAT WE HAVE SUR THAT THERE IS SURPLUS PARKING AT THE MALL BECAUSE I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH MR. RA THAT PARKING, THE PORTO'S IS FULL ALL THE TIME. I MEAN, YOU, YOU GO THERE JUST ABOUT ANY TIME AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND PARKING EASILY. MM-HMM . AND ON WEEKENDS, THAT LINE IS ALL THE WAY OUT TO THIS AUTO CENTER SOMETIMES. SO I I I KNOW THAT PARKING THERE IS IMPOSSIBLE. YEAH. AND I MEAN THAT, THAT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE. GREAT, GREAT PROBLEM TO HAVE. YEAH. UNLESS YOU'RE TRYING TO GO THERE. . SO, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I AGREE THAT PARKING IS A CONCERN FOR ME, UH, AS TO HOW MUCH IS THERE. AND, AND ONE PER 250 SQUARE FEET IS NOT A LOT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. IT'S, IT'S NOT A LOT. THIS IS A GREAT, YOU KNOW, WE WELCOME THIS, THIS BUSINESS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT, IT'D BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE BUSINESSES HERE IN WAS COVINA. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING. THE, THE MALL AND YOU GOT THAT, THE GYM? MM-HMM . AND I, I WAS LOOKING TO JOIN THE GYMN. DON'T DO IT. THERE'S NO PARKING EVER THERE. I WAS LIKE, REALLY? THEY'VE GOT A SPECIAL, OH, YOU KNOW, , IT LOOKS GOOD. THEY HAVE A SO I WAS, BUT THE PARKING KIND OF SCARED ME, SO I DON'T KNOW. I JUST, JUST WONDERING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS NICE FAMILY HAS AMPLE PARKING FOR THEIR NEW BUSINESS. PARKING AT ANY SITE IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE. MALLS RIGHT NOW ARE FACING, UM, A HIGH RATE OF VACANCIES, SO IT'S HARD TO CAPTURE THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF PARKING BECAUSE THE MALLS NOT FULLY, YOU KNOW, LEASED OUT. UM, BUT AGAIN, GOING TO WHAT OUR, OUR ZONING CODE REQUIRES, THERE'S ZONING CODE REQUIRES, THERE'S ONE CALCULATION FOR ALL SHOPPING CENTERS. IT'S ONE FOR ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY 250 SQUARE FEET. SO WHETHER THIS WAS A RETAIL STORE OR WHETHER THIS WAS A, A RESTAURANT OR A SERVICE STATION, IT'S ONE FOR 250 SQUARE FEET MAYBE OFFER. THAT'S, THAT'S NOT TO SAY OFFER A SPECIAL FOR PEOPLE WHO UBER THERE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE WON'T BE AN ISSUE WITH PARKING. THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE WITH PARKING. UM, AND IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSING, UM, BIG, LARGE CONCERNS, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, ADDRESS IT AT A, AT A FUTURE TIME WITH OUR, OUR FIRST GOAL WOULD BE TO WORK, COORDINATE SOMETHING WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, BEFORE IT ESCALATING TO, UH, BACK TO YOU. HAS THIS BEEN BROUGHT UP WITH THEM? ANY TYPE OF A PARKING ISSUE? HAS THERE BEEN A DISCUSSION THUS FAR? UH, NO. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ASPECT OF IT. IF THEY WEREN'T DOING THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, UM, ASPECT, THEN YOU WOULD NOT SEE, YOU WOULD SEE THE RESTAURANT UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO OUR, OUR, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ADDRESSING THE, THE EXPANSION. I JUST, I JUST KNOW WITH THE DODGER GAME, THAT PLACE IS GONNA BE PACKED. SO I JUST WAS CURIOUS. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . WHICH IS GOOD TO PREDICT THAT THE PLACE IS GONNA BE PACKED. . IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT THING. LIKE I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT. I GET IT. I JUST, AGAIN, SPEAKING O OPENLY, WELL, HOPEFULLY THESE ARE, UH, GOOD PROBLEMS TO HAVE AS A CITYWIDE, [01:00:01] UM, THE CITYWIDE THING, UM, THERE'S PLENTY OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO ADDRESS TRANSPORTATION. UM, AND IDEALLY, UM, IDEALLY STAFF WILL BE ON TOP OF THAT IF THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE. UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DON'T WANNA CUT ANYBODY OFF. I I DON'T WANT TO THROW A WRENCH INTO THIS, BUT SURE. GOING BACK TO THE DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER REGARDING SECURITY CAMERAS MM-HMM . ITEM, THIS, THERE'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WAS WRITTEN ALMOST IN MIRROR IMAGE TO WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. SO IS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WANT TO MOVING FORWARD. IT'S, UH, CONDITION NUMBER 11. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS MOVING FORWARD, WE WANT TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS, SUMMARY WRITING OF HOW, HOW WE BRING THESE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO YOU. I THINK THAT PROBABLY MAKES THE MOST SENSE. UM, I, I, I, I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO BE A PIECEMEAL CONSIDERATION AND POTENTIALLY WE REVISIT THE DEVELOPMENT CODE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES ON THAT MOVING FORWARD OR, OR RECONSIDER CS ON THAT. UM, BUT, UH, HAVING SAID THAT, UM, WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO PARAGRAPH 11 OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 20, I BELIEVE IT'S, OR, OR IN THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 61 82. I JUST REQUEST THAT THE SAME LANGUAGE BE ADDED IN. AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, MY MOTION ALONG WITH, UH, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 26 DASH OH ONE WITH THAT MODIFICATION ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT, UH, NUMBER 26 DASH 12 AND MINOR SITE PLAN NUMBER 26 DASH 26. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE A MOTION WITH THE AMENDED 11, UH, REMOVING THAT ONE SECTION REQUIRING ADDITIONAL ENHANCED SURVEILLANCE, MEASURING AND ADDING, UM, UH, LIGHTING AS REQUIRED, ENHANCED LIGHTING AS REQUIRED. I, I BE, I BELIEVE THE, THE LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE BROADER THAN THAT. IT WAS, UH, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND, UH, ADDITIONAL CAMERAS. UM, I, I WAS GONNA SAY, UH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE LANGUAGE WAS, BUT, UM, I I'M SURE SHE WROTE IT DOWN. IT, IT WAS ABOUT THE SYSTEM AND CORRECT THAT THAT WAS THE LANGUAGE. YES. AND THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, ROLL CALL PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ANG AYE. COMMISSIONER BERA? AYE. COMMISSIONER BENNETT. AYE. CHAIR LEWIS. AYE. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO AND WE WILL BE, UM, MOVING ON. UH, THIS DECISION WILL BE FINAL UNLESS A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR APPEAL IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS. UM, MOVING ON TO NON-HEARING ITEMS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY NON-HEARING ITEMS, UH, COMMISSIONER REPORTS AND COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OR OFFER, COMMENT ON? RIGHT. UM, I JUST, I WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE, UH, A COUPLE OF POTENTIAL, UH, MOTHER MAY EYES AT THIS JUNCTURE. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY IS THERE, THERE IS, UH, NOT A SINGLE HORIZONTAL BILLBOARD IN THIS CITY EXCEPT FOR ONE. AND THAT ONE EXISTS ON THE MALL SITE. AND THE SOLE REASON THAT THAT ONE EXISTS ON THE MALL SITE WAS TO PREVENT A BLOCKAGE OF A BUILDING THAT USED TO BE THERE. AND I THINK WE ALL, WE ALL REMEMBER BOB'S A BIG BOY AND CHEVY'S WHEN IT WAS THERE. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO DO IS I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, THAT, UH, THAT GRANTED THAT, UH, THAT PARTICULAR, UM, THAT PARTICULAR MODIFICATION THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT HORIZONTAL BILLBOARD TO BE THERE, AND SO THAT IT IS UNIFORM AND WE HAVE ALL VERTICAL BILLBOARDS LIKE WE DO ON BOTH, UM, ON, ON THE REST OF THE, THE PLAZA SITE AND THE REST OF THE EASTLAND CENTER SITE. I, I UNDERSTAND THE SOLE PURPOSE FOR THAT [01:05:01] AT THE TIME WAS BECAUSE IT WAS JUST BLOCKING A BUILDING. AND ULTIMATELY, UM, THAT WAS A COMPROMISE AT THE TIME. I THINK IT'S A COMPROMISE THAT NO LONGER HAS ANY, ANY VALUE TO IT. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, BRING THAT BACK IN FRONT OF US. BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT BEAUTIFYING THE CITY. AND REALISTICALLY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ADD, UM, AN ATTRACTIVE FEATURE BACK TO THE SITE THAT, UH, UNFORTUNATELY IS, IS NO LONGER NECESSARY. UM, SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS, UM, I'D, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT AN ORDERLY THING. I DON'T WANT TO, IM IMPOSE SOMETHING ON IT ON THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO TOMORROW. BUT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS OVER A, A PERIOD OF TIME, DEPENDING ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS ARE OUT THERE. UM, JUST SO THAT IT ULTIMATELY IS RESTORED BACK TO WHAT I BELIEVE WAS INTENDED BY THIS PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THAT WAS, UH, WHEN THAT WAS FIRST, UH, FIRST APPROVED, DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE, UH, AN ADDRESS OR A CROSS STREETS? I, SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE THIRD BILLBOARD THAT IS ALONG THE, THE FREEWAY, UM, UH, AT THE WEST COVINA PLAZA SITE, UM, RIGHT BEFORE, IF YOU'RE TRAVELING EASTBOUND ON THE 10 FREEWAY, YOU CAN'T MISS IT. THE ONE RIGHT ALONG VINCENT AVENUE OFF RAMP, RIGHT? CORRECT. I BELIEVE IT'S AN EL PESCADOR ADVERTISEMENT. NOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE EL PESCADOR CONTINUE TO ADVER ADVERTISE THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, UM, IT SHOULD BE A, A VERTICAL BILLBOARD AS OPPOSED TO A, A HORIZONTAL ONE. WE'VE NEVER ALLOWED THAT PREVIOUSLY, AND IT'S THE ONLY EXCEPTION IN THE ENTIRE CITY. AND AGAIN, IT WAS A COMPROMISE THAT WAS MEANT TO ACCOMMODATE A BUSINESS. AND A BUILDING THAT NO LONGER EXISTS, IS YOUR REQUEST TO BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? CORRECT. TO OPEN IT. OKAY. YES. UM, DO WE, ARE WE ASKING FOR A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK? UM, YES. I MEAN, UN UNLESS THERE'S CONSENSUS. OKAY. UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE OPPOSED. I MEAN, I'M WILLING TO HEAR ABOUT IT. I, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT IS NOT BEING USED THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY. I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS BUILT. SO I, I'M, I'M OPEN TO IT. ALL RIGHT. COULD BE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PROP PREVENT IS TO DETERMINE WHO OWNS IT AND WHAT THE USE IS, WHAT THE, WHAT THE ACTUAL APPROVED USE WOULD BE. CORRECT. CORRECT. OH, I HAVE SOMETHING. UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, BE SORRY. UM, SO IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BAR THAT HAD OVER 200 CALLS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, I HAVE, IT IS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE'S THE STRIP MALL THAT HAS THE, UH, BARBER SHOP, LAUNDROMAT NAIL SHOP, THE SMOKE SHOP, THAT THERE'S BEEN MANY, MANY CALLS THERE. I HAD REQUESTED THAT WE GET A LIST EVERY MONTH OF BUSINESSES THAT HAVE POLICE CALLS OR HAVE, THAT ARE A PROBLEM THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, AND WE, WE NEED TO REVIEW THEIR, YOU KNOW, C PS THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE HAVING PROBLEMS JUST LIKE THAT BAR THAT WE HAD, THE PROBLEMS THAT IT, IT WAS EXCESSIVE. AND THIS, WHAT I WAS HEARING IS EXCESSIVE AS WELL. AND I'M, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY CALLS WERE MADE TO THAT LOCATION. AND, AND THIS IS THE SMOKE SHOP OR, OR THE SHOPPING CENTER? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SMOKE SHOP, BUT IT'S BEEN TO ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES. I DON'T WANNA NAME WHICH ONE IT WAS, BUT YES, IT'S NOT, I'M SURE THE POLICE KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN THERE THAT MANY TIMES. OKAY. AND AGAIN, UM, THE CROSS STREETS OR AN ADDRESS FOR THAT? HUH? THE CROSS STREETS OR AN ADDRESS FOR THAT? UM, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS, SO IT'S VALINDA AND GLENDORA. OKAY. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF CALLS THEY'RE GETTING AND, UM, WE CAN REACH OUT TO PD AND SEE IF THEY CAN PROVIDE A REPORT FOR US. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND THEN, UM, ALSO WE HAD REQUESTED FOR THAT TO BE POSTED TO THE WEST COVINA WEBSITE AS WELL, SO THE RESIDENTS CAN KNOW THE POSTING OF THE POLICE REPORT. YEAH. LIKE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE HAD PROBLEMS. UM, I, I THINK THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO KNOW, BUT ALSO, SO I WOULD, I'VE BEEN, I, ON MY WAY HOME EVERY DAY I GET OFF ON PACIFIC OFF OF THE 10 FREEWAY COMING EAST. AND I MEAN, NOT EVERY DAY, BUT I WORK FROM HOME. BUT OCCASIONALLY WHEN I'M COMING HOME, I, I WILL TAKE THAT EXIT AND, UM, YOU GET OFF ON THAT EXIT AND IT'S JUST [01:10:01] DISGUSTING. IT IS SO BAD. THE WEEDS, I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO OWNS A PROPERTY ON FLOOR DECOR, BUT THAT IS REALLY BAD FROM THE CURB. IF THAT'S SCAA AND THE CURB THEN SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING. IT'S JUST, IT'S TERRIBLE LOOK LIKE YOU JUST, IS IT THE VACANT LAND? THAT'S KIND OF, I THINK IT, NO, NO, THAT'S THE PARKING LOT. I MEAN, THEY'RE USING THE PARKING LOT, AREN'T THEY? SO YOU JUST GET OFF AND THAT WHOLE AREA RIGHT THERE, I MEAN, I ASSUME IS A PARKING LOT. THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND TO PERFECT AUTO, AND THAT WHOLE AREA IS, IS JUST BEEN OVERGROWN. IT'S NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF. IT LOOKS, IT'S AN EYESORE. YOU GET OFF THE FREEWAY, WE CAN CERTAINLY FORWARD THAT REQUEST TO CODE ENFORCEMENT PUBLIC SAFETY. MM-HMM . ANYWAYS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. UM, COMMISSIONER BENNETT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A, A RECENT DEVELOPMENT OVER IN THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN WEST GREEN AREA ON GLENDORA AVENUE REGARDING PATIO, UH, DINING. AND I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. AND I KNOW THERE'S ISSUES AND I KNOW THERE'S PROPERTY LINE ISSUES, WHAT THE CITY OWNS, WHAT THEY OWN, BUT I'D REALLY LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO LOOK AT PATIO DINING AND MAKE IT ACTUALLY A PROCESS FOR THEM TO APPLY FOR IT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE A PERMIT OR SOMETHING THAT SOME, SOME SORT OF PROCESS, I SHOULD SAY, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE PATIO DINING, LIKE THEY'VE ENJOYED, ESPECIALLY SINCE COVID WHERE EVERYBODY WAS PATIO DINING. UM, I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR IT AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT COME BACK AS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACT ON AND HOPEFULLY MAKE SOME CHANGES TO ALLOW THEM TO USE THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. UH, THE CITY IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT NOW. PERFECT. WE DO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE. UM, THERE'S TWO PROCESSES AND WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, STREAMLINE IT INTO ONE. WE HAVE A, AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, UH, BUT AN APPLICATION DOESN'T EXIST FOR THAT. UH, AND WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT, UM, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE OUTDOOR DINING. WE'RE COORDINATING WITH, UH, THE BUSINESSES ALONG HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, UM, TO IDENTIFY THE PROPER PATH AND TO, UM, SET THE BOUNDARIES ON HOW TO GO, UM, THROUGH, UH, OBTAINING A PERMIT. SO, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, POSSIBLY SOME TYPE OF ENCROACHMENT PERMIT WITH A PLANNING APPLICATION COMBO. UM, AND SO PLANNING IS WORKING WITH THAT, UM, WITH THE CITY, UM, UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON IMPLEMENTING THAT. UH, ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, BRING THAT BACK TO, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND INFORM YOU OF, OF THE FINAL, UM, UH, PROCESS. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WOULD BE GOOD. ABSOLUTELY. MM-HMM . UM, ONE, UH, ONE OTHER, UH, ITEM I I WANTED TO BRING UP, UM, AND I'M, I'M TRYING TO FORMULATE EXACTLY HOW TO ADDRESS THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS UNFORTUNATELY BECOME FAR TOO COMMONPLACE, UM, IS UNFORTUNATELY FIRES AT GALSTER PARK. WE'VE HAD NO LESS THAN FOUR FIRES OVER JUST, JUST OVER THE PAST TWO MONTHS AT GALSTER PARK. UM, NEEDLESS TO SAY, I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT IN TERMS OF IMPACTING, UH, MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS INSURANCE RATES AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE EVEN GOING TO BE, UH, PROVIDED WITH INSURANCE MOVING FORWARD. UM, THERE HAS BEEN SORT OF A DEAFENING SILENCE, UM, FROM THE CITY ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, AND I'M NOT EXACTLY CERTAIN AS TO WHY. UM, GIVEN THAT FACT, I, I WANT TO, UH, POTENTIALLY CALL FOR A, A JOINT MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY AND SENIOR SERVICES COMMISSION, WHICH, UH, WE HAVE SORT OF CONCURRENT, UH, JURISDICTION OVER DEVELOPMENT AND PARKS, UM, TO POTENTIALLY MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO POTENTIALLY PREVENT WILDFIRES IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION FROM BECOMING AS COMMONPLACE AS THEY ARE. IT IS, IT'S A PROBLEM AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE HAS BEEN NO TRANSPARENCY AS TO WHAT THE CAUSE OF ANY OF THESE FIRES HAS BEEN. AND, UH, I THINK, I THINK IT'S HIGH TIME THAT SOMEBODY IN THE CITY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE. UM, BECAUSE AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, UM, NOTHING HAS HAPPENED ON THAT FRONT. I'VE, I'VE HEARD ONE COUNCIL MEMBER BRING IT UP AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, PRETTY MUCH WHERE IT'S DIED. UM, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME DISCUSSION OF THAT. UM, AND POTENTIALLY BRINGING FIRE IN MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, BEST PRACTICES ARE FOLLOWED AND WHAT CAN BE DONE, UH, FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD TO ENSURE [01:15:01] THAT THERE, THERE IS NOT AN ISSUE. AND I, AND I I WILL SAY THIS LAST FIRE WAS THE FIRST FIRE THAT I, THAT I HEARD THAT ACTUALLY THREATENED HOMES. UM, AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT, UM, ONE IS TOO MANY. DID YOU SEE WHAT THE CAUSE WAS? NOPE. THERE'S BEEN NO INFORMATION ABOUT ANYTHING. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. NOT A SINGLE WORD HAS COME OUT. FIRE CHIEF IS SILENT. EVERYONE IS, COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF IT IS A HOMELESS, WHY DON'T THEY TELL US? RIGHT. THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT, THAT I HAVE. AND REALISTICALLY, THE FACT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WEST COVINA SHOULD NOT BE A CITY WHERE WILDFIRE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HAVE TO CONCERN OURSELVES WITH. I MEAN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FIFTH FIRE THAT HAPPENED, UM, ON 4TH OF JULY. WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO TELL US AS THEY'RE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY, THEY HANDLE THAT THIS IS PLANNING, BUT I MEAN, THEY, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAVE TO TELL US. CORRECT. UH, COMMERS, UM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS, UM, COMMUNICATING THAT IT IS UNDER AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION. SO WHICH ONE? , THANK YOU. THE ONES YOU JUST DESCRIBED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. INCLUDING THE ONE ALL THE WAY BACK ON JULY 4TH IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION. CORRECT. BUT I CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO OUR FIRE CHIEF AS SOON AS THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETED TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, I, I I, I WANT TO SEE, UM, POTENTIALLY THIS COME BACK SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT THIS IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE. AND I THINK, UH, COMMUNITY AND SENIOR SERVICES WOULD BE, UH, WELL ACQUAINTED WITH DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL. THAT'S WHY I WOULD PROPOSE A, A JOINT MEETING ON THAT. AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM IN WEST COVINA AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY IT'S A PROBLEM AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO PREVENT IT MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SURE. WE'LL HAVE SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS AND SEE, UM, IF WE CAN, WE CAN EXPLORE THE ABILITY OF HAVING THIS, UH, JOINT MEETING. UM, A LOT OF THE TIMES, UM, FIRE PLANS HAVE TO BE PUT IN PLACE BEFORE WE GO IN AND MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS. UH, AND, AND THERE'S OTHER LAYERS TO THAT. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE MAY BE UM, UH, THERE MAY, THERE MAY BE A PRESERVATION EASEMENT OR, OR SOME TYPE OF A COASTAL SAGE BRUSH WE HAVE TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO. SO UNLESS THERE'S AN ACTIVE FIRE GOING ON, WE CAN'T REALLY TOUCH THOSE, UM, THAT WHATEVER BRUSH WHAT APPEARS TO BE A BRUSH. UM, BUT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS PARK. UM, AND YEAH, AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL EXPLORE THE ABILITY OF HAVING, UH, THAT JOINT MEETING, UM, AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. AREN'T THERE CURFEWS ON THE PARKS? WHAT WAS THAT? AREN'T THERE CURFEWS ON THE PARKS? ALL THE PARKS? I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. AND, AND WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING THE PARK MASTER PLAN RIGHT NOW, OR IS THAT DONE? UH, THERE'S A DRAFT, UH, OUT, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN INCORPORATES A, A FIRE PLAN, UM, THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO, TO, UH, GALSTER PARK ITSELF, UM, IF NOT REGIONWIDE. UM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MASTER PLAN TALKS ABOUT THAT, UH, THE, THE FIRE UH, PROTECTION OR THE FIRE PRE, UH, PROTECTION AGAINST FIRE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SECTION IN THERE REGARDING THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT IS A WILDER MORE OF A WILDERNESS PARK THAT WE HAVE AND IT BUTTS RIGHT UP TO WHAT WAS THE BKK LANDFILL BASICALLY. SO IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY GOT SOME WILD LAND THERE, BUT IT, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING IN THE PARK MASTER PLAN TO PREVENT SOMETHING. I MEAN, I AGREE WITH CHAIR LEWIS. SOMETHING HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERED. THERE ARE OPTIONS. I'VE GOT PLENTY OF IDEAS, BUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THEM. WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? UM, DO WE HAVE, UH, I WAS, I WAS GONNA SAY I THINK A CDC REPORT IS UP NEXT IF MEMORY SERVES ME. RIGHT. SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO WELCOME, UH, COMMISSIONER STEVE BENNETT. UH, IF WE CAN, UH, SAY, UM, WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE HIM, UH, JOIN THE COMMISSION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVICE EXPERIENCE AND, UH, CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY. UM, ALSO WE WANTED TO, UH, BRING SOME LIGHT TO SOME SPECIAL EVENTS TAKING PLACE. UM, SHORTLY WE HAVE THE 2026, UH, WEST COVINA, STATE OF THE CITY AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION DINNER. UH, THE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS ARE INVITED TO ATTEND. UM, IT WILL BE ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH, FIVE 30 TO EIGHT 30 AT THE WEST COVINA SPORTSPLEX, UM, 2100 SOUTH AZUA. YOU CAN CHECK IN A COCKTAIL. UM, SOCIAL AND CHECK-IN IS AT FIVE 30 AND THE PROGRAM BEGINS AT SIX. UH, WE ALSO WANTED TO INVITE THE COMMISSIONERS TO ATTEND THE MARROWS GRAND OPENING AND THE RIBBON CUTTING CELEBRATION AT THEIR NEW WEST COVINA LOCATION. [01:20:01] THAT IS ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 27TH. UH, THAT'S AT 5:00 PM RECOMMENDED ARRIVAL TIME AT FIVE FOUR IS 5 45. THE LOCATION IS 9 8 7 SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE, UNIT FIVE, UH, IT'S INSIDE HAVEN CITY. IF YOU CAN, UH, IF YOU CAN, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU AT THE, UH, MARROWS AND CELEBRATE THE GRAND OPENING, UM, IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT CONCLUDES. ALRIGHT. ANY, UH, CITY COUNCIL ACTION? MM-HMM . ANY CITY COUNCIL ACTION TO REPORT. ALRIGHT. HAVING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO CONDUCT THIS EVENING, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 8:22 PM NIGHT. EVERYONE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.