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REGULAR MEETING[CALL TO ORDER]
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL IS CALLED TO ORDER APRIL 28TH, 2026.UM, WE'LL NOW TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER OR MEDITATION AND WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE WITH COMMISSIONER HANK.
PLEASE STAND, PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, P ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES MAYOR REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION.
OKAY, ARTURO, WILL YOU CALL? ROLL OF CO.
TONIGHT WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE REGULAR MEETING ON MARCH 24TH, 2026.UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? UH, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS, I'M SORRY, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
UH, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? THIS IS A TIME FOR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A PINK CARD.
UM, WE HAVE NO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR THIS EVENING.
[2. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 25-01 ZONE CHANGE NO. 25-01 PRECISE PLAN NO. 25-01 TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 004618 TREE PERMIT NO. 25-10]
PUBLIC HEARINGS.FIRST, WE'LL HEAR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER 25 DASH ONE, WHICH IS A ZONE CHANGE.
THERE'S ALSO PRECISE PLAN, TENTATIVE ACTION, UH, TE TRACK MAP, PRE PERMIT, MITIGATIVE NEGATIVE DECLARATION, AND WE HAVE AN APPLICANT, LUISA POLLO.
SO ARTURO, WHO WILL, UH, PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.
TONIGHT, UH, CONTRACTOR PLANNER JEFF ANDERSON WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, I AM A CONTRACT PLANNER WITH THE CITY, AND MY NAME IS JEFF ANDERSON.
AS ART JUST, UH, COVERED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
TONIGHT IS FOR A PROJECT AT DEL NORTE SCHOOL SITE AT 1501, UH, WEST DEL NORTE STREET.
THE PROPOSAL REQUIRES THE APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING, A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM CIVIC SCHOOLS TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIUM DENSITY AND TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, A ZONE CHANGE TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO SPECIFIC PLAN AND OPEN SPACE.
A PRECISE PLAN TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF 232 UNITS, A TENTATIVE TRACK MAP TO ALLOW THE SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE SALE OF UNITS AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT TO ALLOW THE REMOVAL OF ONE SIGNIFICANT TREE THAT'S LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
THE LOT SIZE OF THE SCHOOL SITE IS 13.62 ACRES.
THE LOCATION IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF DEL NORTE STREET AND NORA AVENUE SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH AND WEST, OPEN SPACE TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS DEL NORTE PARK AND OFFICE, AND SINGLE FAMILY TO THE E SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST, AS WELL AS A PORTION OF THE PARK SITE, WHICH IS TO THE EAST.
THE PROJECT SITE IS ADJACENT TO DEL NORDE PARK TO THE NORTH AND A PORTION TO THE EAST NEAR THE TENNIS COURTS.
THE SITE WAS USED AS AN INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL UNTIL 1989.
MORE RECENTLY, IT IS USED, IT WAS USED AS A REGIONAL OCCUPATIONAL PROGRAM TECHNICAL CENTER.
WHEN THE ROP CENTER RELOCATED THE WEST COMMUNITY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, CONTRACTED WITH THE APPLICANT MLC HOLDINGS TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
THE PROJECT SITE IS IMPROVED WITH SCHOOL BUILDINGS, PARKING LOTS, OPEN SPACE, AND BASEBALL FIELDS.
THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL FOR 232 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
THESE UNITS WOULD BE MARKET RATE UNITS.
TWO TYPES OF UNITS ARE PROPOSED.
TWO, TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND THREE STORY ATTACHED TOWNHOME UNITS.
EACH UNIT INCLUDES A TWO CAR GARAGE, SOME OF WHICH ARE TANDEM GARAGES, AND THERE ARE 62 GUEST PARKING SPACES FOR A TOTAL
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OF 526 TOTAL PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE.A COMMON AREA IS LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE PROJECT AND INCLUDES A SWIMMING POOL AND OTHER AMENITIES.
DEL NORTE, UH, DEL NORTE STREET WILL BE EXTENDED THROUGH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO INTERSECT WITH SUNSET AVENUE.
THE STREET PARKING WILL BE ADDED IN THAT EXTENSION.
THE EXTENSION OF THE STREET WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR STREET PURPOSES.
THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A REVISED PLAN SINCE THE LAST SCHEDULED HEARING IN JANUARY.
SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THERE WAS ORIGINAL, UH, HEARING IN DECEMBER, WHICH TIME I BELIEVE THERE WAS 280 SOME ODD UNITS.
AND THEN THEY REVISED THAT FOR A HEARING IN JANUARY TO 262 UNITS, AND NOW THEY'VE REVISED IT FURTHER.
SO THE CURRENT PROPOSED PLANS ONLY HAVE TWO AND THREE STORY UNITS.
THE PROPOSAL IS FOR UNDER 20 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS THREE STORIES, 38 FEET.
THE PROPOSAL IS FOR 232 UNITS AND INCLUDES A 1.45 ACRE PARK DEDICATION OF THE BALL FIELD ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS DEDICATION WOULD BECOME PART OF DEL NORTE PARK.
THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE HAS INCREASED FROM 115,000 AND CHANGE TO 208,000, ALMOST 209,000, WHICH INCLUDES THE PARK DEDICATION.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SO JUST A, A NOTE ON THE, THE SIZES 'CAUSE AS YOU READ THROUGH THINGS, YOU MAY SEE DIFFERENT SIZES, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 13.62 ACRES, BUT THE PROPOSAL, UH, ALSO ENTAILS A, A STREET DEDICATION TO EXTEND DEL NORTE STREET TO SUNSET AVENUE.
AND THAT DEDICATION REQUIRE IS, UH, REDUCES THE OVERALL PROJECT TO 13.19 ACRES.
NOW, THE, THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES A PARK DEDICATION OF 1.45 ACRES.
THE PARK DEDICATION REDUCES THE PROJECT SIZE TO 11.74 ACRES.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED IS 11.74 ACRES.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
THE SITE LAYOUT CONSISTS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ON THE FRONTAGE OF DEL NORTE STREET AND NORA AVENUE AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN THE NORTH.
AND, UH, THE NORTH, CENTRAL AND EAST PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO THE PARK AND TO THE OFFICE.
USED TO THE EAST, THE PARK DEDICATION WOULD BE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WITH THE OUTLINE OF THE BALL FIELD, UH, SHOWING, UH, ON THE AERIAL BELOW, TWO POINTS OF VEHICULAR ACCESS ARE PROPOSED, ONE ON DEL NORTE STREET AND ONE ON NORA, WHICH IS THE EXACT SAME THING THAT YOU, UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE SAW AT THE HEARING IN DECEMBER, OR YEAH, DECEMBER VEHICLES WOULD ACCESS GARAGES AND UNITS THROUGH A SYSTEM OF DRIVE LANES, WHICH COMPLY WITH FIRE LANE REGULATIONS.
THE NORTH AND EAST SETBACKS ARE A MINIMUM OF 10 FEET IN WIDTH, AND EOS ARE PROPOSED TO ALLOW PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO ALL THE UNITS, ESPECIALLY THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN TO THE CENTRAL AND, UM, NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE.
THERE ARE TWO PLAN TYPES OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND THREE PLAN TYPES FOR TOWNHOUSES.
IN ADDITION, THERE ARE TWO ARCHITECTURAL STYLES PROPOSED.
SO I, I PREPARED SLIDES FOR EACH, UH, TYPE AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THEM FAIRLY QUICKLY.
UM, IN ADDITION, THERE ARE MIRRORED, MIRRORED PLANS FOR EACH OF THE FLOOR PLANS AS WELL THAT I WON'T SHOW THE MIRROR.
I'M ONLY GONNA SHOW THE, THE TYPES.
SO YOU GET AN IDEA OF THE FLOOR PLANS AND THE ELEVATIONS.
SO THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR WHAT THEY CALL PLAN THIRTY TWO TWENTY TWO.
IT IS 1,678 SQUARE FEET, THREE BEDROOMS AND TWO AND A HALF BATHS.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN FOR, UH, PLAN 35 22, WHICH IS 1,957 SQUARE FEET, FOUR BEDROOMS AND THREE AND A HALF BATHS.
THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR PLAN ONE FOR THE TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS 1,226 SQUARE FEET, TWO BEDROOMS AND TWO AND A HALF BATHS.
THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR A TOWN HOME PLAN TWO, WHICH IS 1,470 SQUARE FEET, THREE BEDROOMS AND THREE BATHROOMS. THIS IS A FLOOR PLAN FOR TOWN HOME PLAN SEVEN, WHICH IS 1,755 SQUARE FEET, FOUR BEDROOMS AND FOUR BATHROOMS. THERE ARE TWO, AS I SAID, THERE ARE TWO ARCHITECTURAL STYLES PROPOSED, AND IN ADDITION, AT THE END OF THE ROWS OF THE BUILDINGS, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE ENHANCED ELEVATIONS WITH EXTRA TREATMENT AND DETAILS TO PROVIDE INTEREST ON THE ELEVATIONS FACING THE PARK AND AT LOCATIONS, OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE VISIBLE.
I'M GONNA PRESENT 10 SLIDES OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
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THIS FIRST ONE SHOWS THE ELEVATIONS OF THE SEASIDE STYLE FOR PLAN 32 22, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT.THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 24 FEET AND THREE INCHES.
THIS IS THE SPANISH STYLE FOR PLAN 32 22.
UH, THIS BUILDING IS 24 FEET AND TWO INCHES IN HEIGHT.
THIS IS THE SEASIDE STYLE FOR PLAN 35 22.
THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 24 FEET, THREE INCHES.
THIS IS A SPANISH STYLE ELEVATIONS, UH, FOR THE, THAT SAME PLAN.
THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 24 FEET AND SIX INCHES.
THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE ELEVATIONS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOME UNITS.
THERE'S A VARIETY OF SIZES OF THOSE.
UH, THIS IS A SEASIDE STYLE FOR THE FOURPLEX, UH, TYPE OF UNIT.
AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT HERE IS 37 FEET AND TWO INCHES.
THIS IS THE SEASIDE STYLE FOR THE SIX, UH, PLEX UNITS.
AND THIS BUILDING HEIGHT IS 37 FEET AND 10 INCHES.
THIS IS THE SPANISH STYLE FOR THE FOURPLEX, AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT HERE IS 37 FEET AND TWO INCHES.
THIS IS THE SPANISH STYLE FOR THE SIX PLEX, AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT HERE IS 37 FEET AND 10 INCHES.
THAT IS THE HIGHEST BUILDING PROPOSED.
THIS IS A SEASIDE STYLE FOR THE EIGHT PLEX, AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT HERE IS 37 FEET AND 10 INCHES.
THIS IS THE SPANISH STYLE FOR THE EIGHT PLEX, AND THE BUILDING AND HEIGHT HERE IS 37 FEET AND 10 INCHES FOR PARKING.
EACH ATTACHED AND DETACHED UNIT HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE.
OF THE 232 GARAGES PROVIDED, 155 ARE SIDE BY SIDE, TWO CAR GARAGES AND 77 ARE TANDEM, FRONT TO BACK TWO CAR GARAGES.
A TOTAL OF 464 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED IN THE GARAGES, AND A TOTAL OF 62 GUEST PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED IN ADDITION TO THAT.
SO A TOTAL OF 526 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED FOR THE UNITS, WHICH IS 2.27 SPACES PER UNIT.
IN ADDITION, THE DETACHED HOUSES HAVE DRIVEWAYS THAT ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TWO CARS TO BE PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 68 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.
STREET PARKING IS ALLOWED ON THE SURROUNDING STREETS IN THE NEW NEWLY DEVELOPED PORTION OF DEL NORTE STREET, THERE ARE 11 PARKING SPACES THAT WILL BE ADDED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT STREET AND MARKED AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS REGARDING SITE DESIGN.
THERE THERE'LL BE WALLS AND FENCES INSTALLED FOR THE PROJECT.
FENCING WILL BE INSTALLED WHERE ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, SOLID WALLS AND FENCES ALONG THE EAST SIDE, UH, THREE FOOT AND, UH, THREE FOOT WALLS AND THREE FOOT TUBULAR FENCING ON MOST OF THE NORTH, UH, AREA THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE PARK AND THE BALL FIELD AND FENCES WILL ALSO BE INSTALLED AROUND EACH OF THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
UH, DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROJECT TO THE BALL FIELD OUTFIELD, A CONDITION HAS BEEN INCLUDED THAT THE HOA WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INSTALLING NETTING TO PROTECT INDIVIDUALS, VEHICLES AND UNITS.
IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH ERRANT BALLS COMING OVER THE, THE FENCE, THE NORA AND DEL NORTE, UH, FRONTAGES WOULD BE OPEN FRONT YARDS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
COMMON OPEN SPACES WOULD BE PROVIDED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE LARGEST BEING THE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE OF 21,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH INCLUDES A SWIMMING POOL AND OTHER AMENITIES.
OTHER OPEN SPACE AREAS INCLUDE THE YARDS OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, EOS BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND OTHER OPEN SPACES THAT ARE, UH, SITUATED AROUND THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.
A TRACK MAP WOULD BE RECORDED, UH, TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTIES TO ALLOW FOR THE SALE, THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, AND TO ALLOW AIR RIGHT SUBDIVISION OF THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES.
THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AS PROPOSED, UM, AND THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE DISTRIBUTED EVENLY AROUND THE THE PROJECT.
THIS IS A SCHOOL SITE DEVELOPMENT COMPARISON CHART.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS AT THE LAST HEARING, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THE PROJECTS, THE VARIOUS SCHOOL SITE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THE PAST FIVE, SIX YEARS.
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VINCENT WERE APPROVED IN 21 AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY COMPLETELY DONE AND OCCUPIED AT THIS POINT.UH, I I I, I DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN TO GO THROUGH THIS VERY, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THIS, UH, ITEM BY ITEM, BUT I DID WANT TO, UH, NOTE THAT IT'S PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IT, IT PROVIDES A COMPARISON.
ONE OF THE, UH, MAIN DIFFERENCES IS THE CITY'S, UH, CLEARLY BEEN, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, I RETIRED FROM THE CITY IN 2020, SO SOME OF YOU GUYS KNOW ME, SOME OF YOU GUYS DON'T.
UM, BUT FOR THE WHOLE TIME I WORKED HERE ABOUT 20 YEARS, IT WAS A 300 FOOT NOTICING RANGE.
WELL, THEY, THAT WAS INCREASED TO 500 A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND NOW THE, THE THESE, THIS PROJECT WAS ASKED TO DO A THOUSAND FOOT.
SO THE PREVIOUS TWO PROJECTS ON PIONEER AND SUNSET DID A 300 FOOT NOTIFICATION.
THIS ONE HAS DONE A THOUSAND FEET.
UH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT THE, AT THE DECEMBER MEETING ABOUT THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT REQUIREMENTS, UM, WHICH AREN'T SPECIFICALLY RATED RELATED TO THIS PROJECT, BUT THEY ARE RELATED TO THE PROJECT BECAUSE, UH, SINCE 1969, THE STATE IS REQUIRED ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PLAN FOR HOUSING NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE PROCESS STARTS WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CALLED HCD, DETERMINING HOW MUCH HOUSING IS NEEDED IN THE NEXT 10 YEAR PERIOD.
IT'S NOT REALLY 10, BUT IT'S CLOSE TO 10.
EACH CITY IN CALIFORNIA IS THEN REQUIRED TO ADOPT HOUSING ELEMENTS, WHICH INDICATE HOW THE CITY WILL MEET THEIR ASSIGNED LOCAL HOUSING NEEDS.
THE HOUSING NEED IS SPECIFIED IN DIFFERENT RANGES OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, INCLUDING VERY LOW, LOW, MODERATE, AND ABOVE MODERATE, WHICH IS MARKET RATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, WEST COVINA WAS ASSIGNED A NUMBER OF 5,346 UNITS FOR THE CITY TO ALLOW TO BE DEVELOPED BETWEEN OCTOBER 15TH, 2021 AND OCTOBER 15TH, 2029.
SO CURRENTLY WE ARE AT 511 UNITS, SO THE UNITS NEEDED IS 4,835.
SO IT'S NOT SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE MATH THAT THE CITY'S GONNA BE ASKED TO, UH, PRESENT TO HCD WHEN THE NEXT HOUSING ELEMENT COMES AROUND.
AS I SAID, THERE IS A TREE REMOVE, UH, REMOVAL PERMIT REQUIRED.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
IT'S KIND OF IN BETWEEN SOME OF THE EXISTING, UH, SCHOOL BUILDINGS THERE RIGHT UP AGAINST, UH, DEL NORTY STREET.
THEY, THEY ARE PLANNING TO REMOVE THAT THE APPLICANT HELD FIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS, THREE IN 2025, UH, BEFORE THEY COMPLETED THE PROJECT, AND TWO MORE AFTER THE HEARING IN DECEMBER.
UH, SO ONE IN JULY, TWO IN AUGUST OF 25, AND THEN ONE IN FEBRUARY AND ONE IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
ISSUES DISCUSSED AT THAT, AT THOSE VARIOUS MEETINGS.
THIS IS A, UH, ALL OF THEM ADDED TOGETHER.
THESE ARE NOT SEPARATE, UH, TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION, GUEST PARKING ON SITE AND ALONG NORA AND DEL NORTE, AND WHETHER IT IS SUFFICIENT, UH, AND RV PARKING, PROHIBITION, GATING AND FENCING PROPOSALS, UH, PRICE ESTIMATES FOR THE UNITS AND LACK OF AFFORDABILITY, THE PROPOSED TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UH, TWO STORY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA AND WHY HIGH-END HOMES WERE NOT PROPOSED WHEN HOMES WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE AND AN INTEREST LIST.
SIGN UP IF ITEMS FROM THE SCHOOL WILL BE NO DONATED BEFORE THE IT'S DEMOLISHED.
REMOVING TWO FIELDS FROM LITTLE LEAGUE ACCESS THE BENEFIT, UH, TO THE PARK OF THE DEDICATION, LITTLE LEAGUE USE AND EXISTING DOG PARK TO REMAIN THE PROPOSED POOL FOR HOMEOWNERS AND NOT ENOUGH AMENITIES PROVIDED FOR THE DENSITY POLICE IMPACTS OR REQUIREMENTS FOR IMPACT FEES AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CALCULATING IMPACT FEES AND CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS.
NOW WE'RE GONNA, UH, UH, CHANGE GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT REQUIREMENTS.
WE, THE ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED BY RING CON CONSULTANTS, AND WE HAVE JOHN MORLAND HERE REPRESENTING THEM THAT WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
GOOD EVENING, UH, MEMBERS OF THE WEST PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY PLANNING.
UH, WITH ON, WE WERE BROUGHT ON BOARD TO CONDUCT AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR THE PROJECT.
AND PURSUANT TO STATE LAW IN THE CITY'S, UH, SQA GUIDELINES, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT NEEDED AN INITIAL STUDY MITIGATING NEGATIVE DECLARATION OR AN ISM AND D.
UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROCESS FOR THE IISM AND D, WHICH WAS PREPARED, UH, INITIALLY PREPARED.
THEN, UM, THE CITY RELEASED THE ISM D FOR PUBLIC REVIEW FROM OCTOBER 28TH, 2025, UH, AND EXTENDING, UH, THE REQUIRED 30 DAY PERIOD TO DECEMBER 1ST, BEYOND THE 30 DAY TO, UM, ALLOW ACCOUNT FOR THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY.
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UH, THEN WE RESPONDED TO COMMENTS AND PREPARED THE FINAL IS 70 D.AND WHEN THIS PROJECT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADOPT THE IS 70, THEN MAKE THE DECISION ON THE PROJECT.
CQA GUIDELINES, UH, INCLUDE 20 DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL TOPICS RANGING FROM AESTHETICS TO WILDFIRE IN OUR REVIEW.
THERE ARE SIX DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE AREAS, UH, WHERE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS COULD OCCUR, NEEDING MITIGATION, AND ALL OTHER AND ALL OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE AREAS.
A PROPOSED PROPOSED PROJECT WAS FOUND TO HAVE EITHER NO IMPACT OR LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT IMPACT WITHOUT THE NEED FOR MITIGATION MEASURES.
THE SIX DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE AREAS, WHICH, UH, NEEDED MITIGATION INCLUDED BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, CULTURAL RESOURCES, GEOLOGY HAZARDS AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, NOISE AND TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES.
THE MITIGATION MEASURES IN, UH, INCLUDED IN THE ISMD INCLUDED AVOIDING NESTING BIRDS PROCEDURES FOR THE UNANTICIPATED DISCOVERY OF CULTURAL PALEONTOLOGICAL OR TRIBAL RESOURCES.
UH, TESTING EXISTING BUILDINGS FOR HIGHER, UH, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS PRIOR TO DEMOLITION, CONDUCTING A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, INSTALLING NOISE BARRIERS DURING CONSTRUCTION, RESTRICTIONS ON CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, AND THE RETENTION OF A NATIVE AMERICAN MONITOR PRIOR TO GRADING.
WHEN THE IM AND D WAS CIRCULATED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW, THE CITY RECEIVED TWO COMMENTS ON THE IM AND D ONE FROM THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT, AND ONE FROM CALTRANS.
THE SANITATION DISTRICT COMMENTS WERE, UH, INFORMATIONAL, WHEREAS, UH, CALTRANS COMMENTS INCLUDE A REQUEST TO STUDY QUEUING AND MULTIMODAL CONFLICTS.
UM, RESPONSIVE TO COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PREPARED AND OR ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT, AND, UH, THE COMMENTS PROVIDED NOT REQUIRE RE ANY REVISIONS TO THE I SM AND D.
UH, SINCE THE PUBLIC REVIEW OF THE ISM AND D, THAT APPLICANT, UM, AS JEFF MENTIONED, HAS MODIFIED THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION, UM, BY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 282 TO 232, UM, ALSO PROVIDING A PARK AND REMOVING THE, UH, FOUR STORY HOUSING TYPE, UH, PURSUANT TO CQA, UH, THE CITY, UM, A ANY CITY WOULD NEED TO RE-RELEASE AN ISM AND D IF ONE OF TWO CONDITIONS WERE MET.
UH, FIRST, DOES THE MODIFICATIONS INTRODUCE NEW SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS? AND SECONDLY, DO THE MODIFICATIONS REQUIRE NEW MITIGATION? WE HAVE REVIEWED THE 20 ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE AREAS AND DETERMINED THAT THE MODIFICATIONS DO NOT INTRODUCE NEW LAND USE TYPES, NOR DO DOES IT EXPAND THE PREVIOUSLY ANALYZED THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT.
THEREFORE, THE REVISED PROJECT WOULD NOT RESULT ANY NEW OR INCREASE SEVERITY OF SIGNIF SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS BEYOND THOSE, UH, THAT WERE CIRCULATED IN THE ISM AND D AS SUCH, NO ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OR DOCUMENTATION WAS REQUIRED FOR THE REVISED PROJECT INS QA, AND WE PREPARED A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY MEMORANDUM, UH, INDICATING HOW THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROJECT WOULD AFFECT THE 20, UM, ISSUE AREAS AS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT.
SO, IN CONCLUSION, FOR THE, UH, STAFF REPORT FINDING IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT, THE, UH, STAFF HAS PREPARED RESOLUTIONS FOR THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, THE ZONE CHANGE, THE PRECISE PLAN, TENTATIVE TRACK, MAP AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FINDINGS HAVE BEEN MADE AND PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN THE RESOLUTIONS.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE RESOS, INCLUDING CONDITIONS REQUIRING ENHANCED ELEVATIONS OF FINAL LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION PLAN, A DETAILED WALL AND FENCE PLAN, COMPLIANCE WITH THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES ORDINANCE AND THE SUBMITTAL OF CCNRS AND A HOMEOWNER'S ASSISTANT, A HOMEOWNER'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE OPTIONS, OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMISSION CON, UH, INCLUDE CONTINUING THE HEARING AS, UH, CONTINUING THE HEARING OR, UH, DENYING THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
UM, JUST ONE NOTE BEFORE I CONCLUDE.
THERE WAS SOME, UH, UH, INFORMATION BROUGHT.
AS, AS MAY YOU MAY BE AWARE, THERE IS A POSTING REQUIREMENT, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT IS SUPPOSED TO POST A BOARD ON THE SITE THAT ANNOUNCES THE HEARING, AND THAT WAS DONE IN THE TIMEFRAME, THE 30 DAY TIMEFRAME.
WE HAVE, UH, PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF THAT, BUT I GUESS THERE WAS SOME, UH, CONFUSION IN REMOVING OLD SIGNS AND THEN MAYBE SOME, SOME, FOR SOME REASON, ONE OF THE SIGNS FELL DOWN EITHER A STORM OR VANDALISM OR SOMETHING.
UM, SO, UH, WE WERE NOTIFIED OF THAT LATE LAST NIGHT.
SO, UH, ART AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO GET THAT PUT BACK UP TODAY.
UM, AND SO WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH THE FACT THAT IT WAS POSTED AS REQUIRED.
AND I'LL CONCLUDE MY STAFF REPORT.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.
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THANK YOU FOR THAT THOROUGH REPORT.UH, NOW WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WOULD THE, UH, APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP? OH, OKAY.
UH, GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
I AM THE DIRECTOR OF ENTITLEMENTS WITH MERITAGE HOMES.
WE ARE THE APPLICANT FOR, UH, THIS PROJECT.
UM, I JUST WANNA FIRST START BY THANKING STAFF.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT WE STARTED, THERE WAS DIFFERENT STAFF HERE AT THE CITY.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT TRANSITION.
THEY'VE BEEN PHENOMENAL TO WORK WITH, KEEPING THIS MOVING FORWARD AND BRINGING FORTH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE THINK IS THE BEST PROJECT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UM, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF WHO MERITAGE IS, UM, WHAT WE DO, HOW WE BUILD SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU SAW THROUGH THE ITERATIONS OF SITE PLANS, UH, SOME OF THE OUTREACH WE DID, AND JUST SOME PROJECT RENDERINGS AS WELL.
SO, MERITAGE HOMES, WE ARE THE FIFTH LARGEST PUBLICLY TRADED HOME BUILDER, UH, BASED ON HOMES CLOSED, UH, IN THE US WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 40 YEARS.
WE OPERATE IN 12 STATES, 31 MARKETS, AND WE HAVE BUILT OVER 200,000 HOMES TO DATE.
UH, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN A DIVISION FOR US, UM, SINCE 2004.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 10 ACTIVELY SELLING COMMUNITIES, 10 UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND ABOUT 21 IN EITHER PLANNING OR FINAL ENGINEERING STAGES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY PRIDE OURSELVES IN IS THE FACT THAT, UH, WE HAVE WON NUMEROUS AWARDS AND ACCOLADES.
SO WE HAVE BEEN AN 11 TIME ENERGY STAR PARTNER OF THE YEAR AWARD, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTIFIED, ALL OF THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE MOST PROUD ABOUT IS THE AVID AWARDS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED.
SO AVID IS A THIRD PARTY CUSTOMER SERVICE SURVEY, UM, PROGRAM, AND THEY WORK WITH LARGE NATIONAL BUILDERS, PUBLIC BUILDERS, SMALL BUILDERS, AND THEY DO A ONE YEAR MOVE IN SURVEY OR A ONE MONTH MOVE IN SURVEY, AND THEN THEY DO A ONE YEAR SURVEY, UM, TO SEE HOW THE PROCESS HAS BEEN.
AND OUR DIVISION HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HAS ACTUALLY WON THE TOP AWARD NATIONALLY, UM, I WANNA SAY THREE OR FOUR TIMES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
AND WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE JUST REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF THAT BECAUSE CUSTOMER SERVICE IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY PRIDE AND FOCUS OURSELVES ON.
SO THIS SLIDE IS JUST TOUCHING ON SOME OF OUR, UM, ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS GREEN FEATURES.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE TRIPLE CERTIFIED THROUGH THE EPA.
UM, IN 2010, WE BECAME THE FIRST NATIONAL HOME BUILDER TO HAVE ALL OF OUR HOMES BE ENERGY STAR CERTIFIED.
UH, WE PROVIDE SOLAR, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE ALL DONE WITH EV READY, BUT TWO THINGS I WANNA FOCUS ON ARE SPRAY FOAM INSTALLATION AND CONDITIONED ATTICS.
SO, UM, WE USE SPRAY FOAM INSULATION.
THIS CREATES A, UH, BETTER INSULATION THAN YOUR TRADITIONAL STYLE.
AND IT ACTUALLY, ESPECIALLY IN, UM, TOWN HOME COMMUNITIES, REALLY HELPS MITIGATE NOISE FROM NEIGHBORING UNITS AS WELL AS NOISE FROM OUTSIDE IN.
UM, AND THEN OUR CONDITIONED ATTICS, WE ARE COMPLETELY ENCLOSED, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY VENTILATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT REDUCES YOUR FIRE RISK, IT ACTUALLY HELPS KEEP YOUR HOME BETTER INSULATED.
SO WE SEE REDUCED ENERGY BILLS, UM, AIR CONDITIONING, ALL OF THAT.
WE'RE REALLY, REALLY PROUD THAT WE BRING IN ALL OF OUR HOMES.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS MERITAGE FOCUSES ON OPERATIONALLY IS THAT WE TARGET A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER, OR A FIRST TIME MOVE UP BUYER.
UM, THAT MEANS THAT WE TRY TO TARGET THIS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
UM, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR NOT QUITE YOUR TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY.
YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, 6,000, 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, BUT YOU'RE NOT INTO A MID-RISE, HIGH-RISE PODIUM OR WRAP APARTMENT KIND OF PROJECT HOUSING TYPE.
UM, SO THAT CAN BE DUPLEXES, IT CAN BE TOWN HOMES, TRIPLEXES.
WE, WE LIKE WORKING IN THAT AREA BECAUSE WHILE IT DOES MEAN YOU'RE A SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY, IT ALLOWS MORE HOMES.
SO YOU'RE ABLE TO SPREAD THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT COSTS OVER MORE HOMES AND KEEP YOUR HOME PRICES LOWER.
SO AGAIN, REALLY TRYING TO TARGET THAT FIRST TIME HOME BUYER AND KEEPING OUR PRICE POINTS ATTAINABLE.
UM, AND WE FIND IN MOST OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE, WHILE IT IS, MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY THAN, UM, SURROUNDING USES, REALLY TRYING TO WORK TO BLEND THAT AS SEAMLESSLY AS POSSIBLE.
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SO, HIGH LEVELS, STARTING OFF ABOUT THE SITE, WE ARE ABOUT HALF A MILE NORTH OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.UM, DOWNTOWN AND CITY HALL, UM, KIND OF RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF THE CITY, AS YOU CAN SEE.
SO THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL TOWN.
THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL PROJECT CONCEPT.
IT AS, UH, JEFF MENTIONED IT WAS 282 HOMES.
WE HAD THE THREE DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES, THE SINGLE FAMILY, THE THREE STORY TOWNS, AND THE FOUR STORY STACK FLATS.
UM, WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU IN DECEMBER, THIS WAS TECHNICALLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT WE WERE PIVOTING ALREADY AT THAT POINT, UM, TO THE NEXT ITERATION.
UM, WAS THE REDUCED PLAN WE PRESENTED KIND OF LIVE AND IN PERSON WAS THE 260 HOME CONCEPT WHERE WE ELIMINATED THE FOUR STORY STACKED FLATS, UM, WHICH REDUCED OUR OVERALL BUILDING HEIGHT.
IT REDUCED OUR UNIT COUNT, IT BROUGHT US DOWN TO UNDER 20 TO THE ACRES.
SO WE WERE NO LONGER PURSUING, UM, A RESIDENTIAL HIGH GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION.
UM, AND FROM CONVERSATIONS, UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BEST THING WE COULD BRING BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, UM, AND CONCERNS WE HEARD IS WHERE WE LANDED ON THIS NEXT PLAN.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY.
AS, UH, JEFF MENTIONED, IT'S 232 HOMES.
THERE'S STILL THE 34 TOWN, THE 34 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT FRONT ON NORA AND DEL NORTE.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE IS A HUNDRED AND NINETY EIGHT THREE STORY TOWN HOMES.
UM, IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, WE DID CARVE OUT 1.45 ACRES FOR THAT PARK DEDICATION.
UM, AND WHEN WE WERE WEIGHING WHAT WE COULD DO BASED ON COMMUNITY CONCERNS, THIS REALLY LANDED AS THE BEST OPTION WE COULD DO.
UM, IN OUR OPINION, IT IT CREATED A LEGACY INVESTMENT THAT WOULD BENEFIT CITYWIDE, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT PROVIDE MORE OPEN SPACE ON SITE.
WELL, THAT WOULD REALLY BE BENEFITING THE RESIDENTS OF THIS VERSUS THIS OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO A 1.45 ACRE DEDICATION IS SOMETHING THAT EXPANDS THE EXISTING DEL NORTE PARK AND IT BECOMES A BENEFIT FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY.
UM, IT WILL KEEP THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH ADDS ANOTHER BASEBALL FIELD TO THE CITY.
UM, THE FIELD RIGHT NOW WHERE IT WAS CURRENTLY DESIGNED, YOU KNOW, LITTLE LEAGUE WOULD RENT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON OCCASION.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE DONE IT IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, BUT THE FIELD AT THE END OF THE DAY WAS UNDERSIZED, UM, WITH WHERE THE FENCING'S AT.
SO WITH THE DEDICATION AREA, WE ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, THE FULL STANDARD SIZE OF A FARM LEAK FIELD PLUS THE SAFETY BUFFER, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AREA BEYOND THAT, UM, WHICH WE THINK IS AN AMAZING VALUE TO BRING TO THE CITY, UM, TO BRING ANOTHER FIELD INTO OPERATION AT THIS PARK AND, AND PROVIDE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND I JUST REALLY WANNA NOTE THAT OBVIOUSLY WEST COVINA IS PRIMARILY BUILT OUT, SO THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARK LAND, UM, IS A PERMANENT BENEFIT THAT CAN'T BE TAKEN BACK OR CONVERTED DOWN THE LINE.
SO, OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS THAT WE DID, AS JEFF MENTIONED, WE STARTED WITH A 500 FOOT RADIUS.
AND TYPICALLY AS WE DO, UM, WE LOOK AT WHERE THAT LINE FALLS AND, AND TRY TO INCLUDE HOMES THAT WE THINK ARE GOING TO BE, UM, OH, MY NEIGHBOR GOT IT, WHY DIDN'T I GET IT? TRY TO TRY TO INCLUDE THAT END OF BLOCK.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THOSE EXPANDED POCKETS YOU SEE OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO STANDARD, IT COVERS SOME HIGH LEVEL PROJECT FACTS.
THIS WAS DONE BACK WHEN WE WERE STILL PROPOSING THE FOUR STORY, UH, STACK FLATS AS WELL, AND WHERE THE 282 HOMES.
AND THEN WE JUST HAVE SOME FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW HERITAGE OPERATES, WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN EXPECT IN TERMS OF HOAS, CCNRS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE HELD, AS JEFF MENTIONED, WE HAD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT MERITAGE HOSTED.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN A TOWN HALL MEMBER TOWN HALL, UH, HOSTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUTIERREZ.
AND THEN THIS YEAR WE DID, UM, A COUPLE MORE OUTREACH THINGS.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER GUTIERREZ HOSTED ANOTHER TOWN HALL IN FEBRUARY.
THIS WAS KIND OF RIGHT AS WE WERE GETTING READY.
WE HAD JUST SUBMITTED KIND OF FOR THE PIVOTED, UM, CONCEPT PLAN WITH THE REDUCED UNITS AND THE PARK DEDICATION.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF GIVE A HIGH LEVEL UPDATE TO PEOPLE AND, AND THE BENEFIT WHICH WE APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GUTIERREZ'S TOWN HALL HAD
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WAS HE WENT OUT TO HIS ENTIRE DISTRICT WITH NOTICING ABOUT THIS MEETING.SO WE FELT REALLY HAPPY THAT THERE WAS ADDITIONAL PEOPLE BEYOND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE COULD SPEAK WITH.
UM, SO WE DID KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES, HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT.
UM, WE DID ABOUT QUESTION Q AND A FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS WE MADE SURE THAT THERE WERE SIGNUP SHEETS IN THE LOBBY.
SO IF PEOPLE, UM, WERE OUTSIDE OF THE IMMEDIATE RADIUS, WE COULD INCLUDE THEM WHEN WE WERE GONNA BE SENDING OUT OUR MAILERS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, WHICH WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS LATER IN MARCH.
UM, WE HOSTED IT ONSITE AT THE SCHOOL AGAIN, AND WHERE OUR PREVIOUS OPEN, OUR PREVIOUS COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE DO AN OPEN HOUSE STYLE WHERE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CONSULTANTS COME AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO KIND OF MOVE AROUND AND TALK ONE-ON-ONE, UM, TO KIND OF ANS GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
THIS ONE WE DID MORE OF A TRADITIONAL PRESENTATION STYLE.
UM, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED HAD ATTENDED SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS ONES THAT WE KNEW THAT THEY KNEW A FAIR BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT ALREADY.
UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION ON A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT WE HAD READY AT THE TIME OF COUNCIL MEMBER TIARA'S, TOWN HALL, UM, AND HAVE A LOT OF THAT DIALOGUE.
OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WAS PRESENT TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY DID TO ENSURE WE COULD REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE WITH THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, IN THE GRAPHIC, WE EXTENDED THE RADIUS, UM, FROM SOME OF THE, UM, HEARINGS WHERE WE SAW PEOPLE SPEAKING ABOUT THE PROJECT AS WELL AS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GUTIERREZ'S TOWN HALLS.
WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CAPTURING THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY NORTH OF THE PARK, WHERE THAT TRADITIONAL 500 FOOT RADIUS WOULDN'T CAPTURE.
UM, SO THE EXPANDED RADIUS THAT YOU SEE, AND THEN RATHER THAN SENDING IT AS A, A LETTER IN AN ENVELOPE THAT MIGHT COME ACROSS AS SPAM OR REALTOR OR SOMEONE JUST KIND OF TRYING TO GIMMICK YOU, UM, WE DID IT AS A LOOSE POSTCARD, REALLY JUST LIKE AN OBVIOUS SAVE THE DATE OF LIKE, YOU, YOU CAN'T MISS IT, YOU CAN'T ACCIDENTALLY THROW IT AWAY HOPEFULLY.
SO WE GOT A REALLY GOOD ATTENDANCE AT THAT.
UM, AND WE'RE ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT OF, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WE HADN'T HAD BEFORE.
SO THAT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, SO AS JEFF MENTIONED, THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF TOPICS, UM, THAT CAME UP DURING ALL OF THESE MEETINGS.
I'M JUST GONNA TOUCH ON A HANDFUL OF THESE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, EVERY HOME PROPOSED IS DESIGNED WITH AT LEAST A MINIMUM 20 BY 20 CLEAR GARAGE IF IT'S IN A SIDE BY SIDE CONFIGURATION, YOUR STANDARD GARAGE.
UM, OUR TANDEM GARAGES ARE OVERSIZED, SO THERE ARE 11 BY 40.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THIS CLEAR AREA FOR VEHICLES, THERE IS A MINIMUM 160 CUBIC FEET OF STORAGE IN EVERY GARAGE AS WELL.
UH, CCNRS WILL BE IN PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL REQUIRE ALL HOMEOWNERS, HOMEOWNERS PARK TWO CARS IN THEIR GARAGE, UM, AND IF NEEDED, LIKE GARAGE INSPECTIONS AND, UM, THOSE KIND OF ENFORCEMENT CAN BE DONE.
AND THEN THE CCNRS WILL ALSO, UH, ESTABLISH THAT THE GUEST PARKING ON SITE IS FOR GUESTS.
IT'S NOT OVERFLOW RESIDENT PARKING.
AND IF WE NEED TO, UM, IMPLEMENT A GUEST PARKING PROGRAM, UM, WE OR A GUEST PERMIT PROGRAM WE CAN DO.
SO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED BY OUR CONSULTANT URBAN CROSSROADS IN, IN, UH, COORDINATION WITH THE CITY.
SO, UH, TRAFFIC SCOPING, UM, WAS COMPLETED.
UM, THE CITY SIGNS OFF ON THAT AND KIND OF DICTATES WHAT INTERSECTIONS THEY WANT MONITORED AND KIND OF THE BREADTH OF THE, OF SCOPE OF WORK.
UM, THE STUDY OVERALL FOUND THAT, UM, THERE'S ONE KIND OF TWO INTERSECTIONS, RIGHT? IT'S THE, THE ROLAND INTERSECTIONS WOULD BE THE INTERSECTIONS THAT WOULD NO LONGER PASS IN TERMS OF LEVEL OF SERVICE.
HOWEVER, I WANNA MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE'S THREE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LOOKED AT.
THERE'S CURRENT CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW, UM, 20, WELL AT THIS POINT IT WAS 2025, THEN THERE IS OPENING YEAR, WHICH IS WHEN THE PROJECT WOULD BE BUILT OUT IN ITS ENTIRETY, UM, WHICH FOR THIS WAS 2029, AND THEN THERE IS HORIZON YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE 2050.
AND IN EACH OF THOSE CONDITIONS, THEY LOOK AT THE EXISTING AND THEN THE EXISTING PLUS PROJECT AND THE INTERSECTION AT SUNSET.
AND ROLAND WAS THE ONE THAT FLAGGED AS, AS BEING AN LOSF IN THE OPENING YEAR, 2029 AND THE HORIZON YEAR.
AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE FAILING.
I WANNA STRESS THIS WITH OR WITHOUT THE PROJECT.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT'S A FLAGGED THING FOR THE CITY TO KNOW THAT, HEY, THIS
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IS GONNA BE AN INTERSECTION WE'RE GONNA NEED TO LOOK AT.AND WHAT COMES FROM THIS REPORT IS THAT THE PROJECT IS OBLIGATED TO PAY A FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTION FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS OF THAT INTERSECTION.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS A TRAFFIC CONDITION IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I JUST WANT TO ALSO NOTE, DOES NOT, UM, INCLUDE A FEATURE THAT WE ADDED LATER, WHICH I'M GONNA TOUCH ON NEXT, WHICH IS A LEFT TURN POCKET ON SUNSET.
UM, AND IT OBVIOUSLY WAS DONE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE FULL ORIGINAL 282 HOMES.
SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME ADDITIONAL REDUCTION OF IMPACTS WITH, UM, REDUCING THE PROJECT BY 50 HOMES.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME FROM OUR INITIAL COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS, AND THESE ARE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE DOWN ON WORKMAN, WAS THERE'S GONNA BE SO MANY PEOPLE TURNING ON WORKMAN AND COMING UP THROUGH FOXDALE, THROUGH REAL TIN, THROUGH HOLLOW, LIKE IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THAT? AND THEY, OUR TRAFFIC STUDY WAS OFF AND RUNNING ALREADY AND THEY WERE LIKE, COULD, COULD SUNSET CONNECT THROUGH? AND SO WE WENT BACK TO THE CITY, WE SAID, HEY, WE HEARD THIS, IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT? MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE CORRECTLY AND, AND HAD OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT LOOK AT THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NOW WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IN THE PROJECT.
SO DEL NORTE STREET, AS JEFF MENTIONED, IS GOING TO BE IMPROVED AND FULLY CONNECT FROM HOLLOW WELL WHERE IT CURRENTLY ENDS AT HOLLOW OVER TO SUNSET.
AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE DESIGNED AS A RIGHT AND RIGHT OUT, UM, THE STREET IS GONNA BE DEDICATED FOR THE FULL 60 FOOT WIDTH.
WE'RE PROVIDING PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT NEXT SLIDE IS THIS LEFT TURN POCKET FOR NORTHBOUND SUNSET, WHICH WILL ALLOW PEOPLE COMING OFF THE FREEWAY TO MAKE A LEFT TURN DIRECTLY ONTO DEL NORTE STREET NOW, RATHER THAN NEEDING TO CUT THROUGH THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF WORKMAN.
UM, AND SO WE THINK THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT, UM, FEATURE TO INCORPORATE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE, THIS IS GONNA BE ABLE TO DIVERT OVER 35% OF PROJECT RELATED TRIPS, UM, IN ADDITION TO OTHER TRIPS THAT MIGHT USE WORKMAN ENROLLMENT.
UM, AND SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THIS FEATURE INTO THE PROJECT.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON IS PRIORITIZING THIS IMPROVEMENT FEATURE TO BE ABLE TO GET THE TURN LANE OPERATIONAL.
SO MAYBE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC COULD BE DONE THIS WAY VERSUS CUTTING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM ON.
SO JUST HIGH LEVEL ON ON GUEST PARKING THAT I WANTED TO FOCUS ON.
SO WE'VE GUEST PARKING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, UM, HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PINK BOXES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE 62 SPACES AS SHOWN.
UM, WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE PARKING COUNTS THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF IS ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HAVE TWO FULL TWO CAR DRIVEWAYS IN ADDITION TO THEIR TWO CAR GARAGES.
UM, AND THE ON STREET, UM, I MEAN WE, WE NEVER LIKE TO COUNT PUBLIC PARKING TOWARDS A PROJECT, BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE, UM, 11 PARALLEL SPACES ALONG NORA AND DEL NORTE THAT ARE CREATED, UM, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO BE OPEN FOR ANYONE TO BE ABLE TO PARK ON.
CURRENTLY SOME OF THE STREETS SOUTH OF THE PARK HAVE, UM, PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMIT SYSTEMS IN PLACE.
AND SO WHILE WE'RE DOING THE DEL NORTE STREET, UH, DEDICATION AND EXTENSION OUT TO SUNSET AND ADDING THOSE ADDITIONAL PARALLEL SPACES ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, THIS PROJECT WON'T ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE, UH, CALL IT GRANDFATHERED IN FOR THE, THE HOME SOUTH, UH, OF THE STREET.
SO, UM, IT'S A NICE FEATURE WE'RE ADDING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND, UM, IF THERE IS PARKING DEMAND, WE THINK THAT IT'LL BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO THIS IS A, UH, ENLARGEMENT FOCUSING ON OUR CENTRAL RECREATION AREA.
SO AS JEFF MENTIONED, WE'RE PROVIDING THE POOL SHADE STRUCTURES IS A RESTROOM BUILDING.
UM, WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENT BARBECUE PAVILIONS OUTSIDE OF THE POOL AREA WITH A SMALL, UM, TURF LAWN AREA FOR IF YOU'RE HAVING, UH, A PARTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THERE'S CABANAS AND THEN THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE, UH, GUEST PARKING KIND OF RIGHT PRO IN PROXIMITY TO THE POOL AREA.
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LIKE WHEN POSSIBLE TO ORIENT FRONT DOORS TO THAT.SO THE TWO TOWN HOME BUILDINGS THAT KIND OF FRAME IT ON THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT REALLY HELP, UM, GROUND THE SPACE AND CREATE A REALLY NICE, UM, CENTRAL AMENITY SPACE.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF OUR TYPICAL POEO ENLARGEMENTS, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SECONDARY SPACES WE HAVE.
SO, UM, WITHIN A TRADITIONAL POEO YOU'LL SEE MEANDERING SIDEWALKS.
SOME UNITS HAVE, UH, SEMI-PRIVATE PATIO SPACE IN FRONT WITH LOW PATIO WALLS AND GATES.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OF THESE SECONDARY SEATING AREAS AND DIFFERENT FEATURES THROUGHOUT.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, UM, THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING THIS 1.45 ACRE, UH, DEDICATION AND THE INTERFACE BETWEEN THE EXISTING PARK FEATURES AND THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE A COMBINATION WALL, UM, THAT IS PARTIALLY BLOCK AND THEN, UM, TUBE SEAL ABOVE.
SO IT REALLY CREATES A NICE PERMEABILITY AND CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PROJECTS.
THE FIELD RIGHT NOW IS, AS I MENTIONED, UNDERSIZED.
SO THE DISTANCE THAT WE ARE CREATING WITH THIS CARVE OUT PROVIDES A STANDARD FARM FIELD.
SO IT'S 180 FEET TO THE HOME RUN LINE, THEN THERE'S THE ROOM FOR THE ADDITIONAL 20 FOOT BUFFER AREA, AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING BEYOND THAT.
UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW WOULD BE INCLUDED WITH THE DEDICATION TO THE CITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD VERY EASILY BECOME A, UH, AMENITY THAT COULD BE UTILIZED RIGHT AWAY.
UM, AND THEN THE CURRENT PLAN, PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUS PLANS YOU HAD SEEN INCLUDED SOME, UM, PEDESTRIAN, UH, PARK CONNECTIONS FROM INTERNAL ON THE PROJECT TO THE PARK.
AND WE HEARD A, WE HEARD MIXED REVIEWS FROM THE NEIGHBORS ON IF THIS WAS A GOOD FEATURE OR NOT.
WE CHOSE TO REMOVE THEM RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT THERE IS FLEXIBILITY IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY REALLY WANTED TO SEE ADDED BACK IN, IN THE FUTURE.
SO AS I MENTIONED, UM, THIS IS THE WALL AND FENCE PLAN.
SO ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE, ALONG THE BASEBALL FIELD AND ALONG THE TENNIS COURTS WOULD HAVE THIS COMBINATION FENCE, SO BLOCK WALL AND TUBE SEAL ABOVE.
UM, AS IT TRANSITIONS ALONG SUNSET, THERE'S AN EXISTING BUSINESS AND A RE EXISTING RESIDENCE THAT BLOCK WALL WOULD REMAIN.
AND THEN WE WOULD PROVIDE NEW BLOCK WALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, OUR PERIMETER, UM, HOMES THAT ARE EITHER AT THE CORNERS OR AT DRIVEWAYS ARE GONNA BE ENHANCED WITH BLOCK WALL AND PLANTING.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE VINYL FENCE WITHIN FOR THE PRIVATE REAR YARDS AND, UM, BLOCK WALL FOR THE, UM, SEMI-PRIVATE PATIO SPACES IN FRONT OF THE TOWN HOMES.
SO THIS IS A VIEW, UM, ALONG THE DEL NORTE EXTENSION.
SO JUST KIND OF GIVING A SENSE OF WHAT THAT SINGLE FAMILY STREET SCENE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WE WOULD BE PROVIDING FULLY NEW CURB, GUTTER, SIDEWALK, UM, PARKWAY PLANTING, STREET TREES, ALL OF THAT ALONG BOTH DEL NORTE AND NORA.
THIS IS, UM, A RENDERING OF THE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES.
SO THAT WAS THE OLD, YOU CAN SEE THE OLD PARK PLURAL STILL, BUT, UM, THIS REALLY GIVES A NICE SENSE OF WHAT THAT ARCHITECTURE LOOKS LIKE.
THE MOVEMENT, UM, UH, THE THREE STORY MASSING STEPS BACK TO REALLY SOFTEN THE HEIGHT AND THERE'S A GOOD VISUAL INTEREST IN THE MATERIALS AND COLORS IN THE ELEVATION.
SO THIS IS JUST A RENDERING FROM THE PARK.
OBVIOUSLY THE PARK PLANS ARE KIND OF INFLUX NOW, UM, WITH WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO, BUT THIS REALLY SHOWS WHAT THAT COMBINATION WALL WILL LOOK LIKE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT JUST A WALL WHERE WE'RE TURNING OUR BACK TO THE PARK.
WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CREATE, UM, THAT ENGAGEMENT AND INTEREST.
AND ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, THE HOMES ADJACENT TO THE PARK WILL HELP, UM, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASPECT OF ADDITIONAL EYES ON THE PARK AND THAT NICE SAFETY FEATURE THAT'S KIND OF AN ADDED BONUS.
UM, WE, I DO JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE WE, UM, THE CITY IS IN PROCESS OF KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH THIS, THIS, THERE'S THE PARK MASTER PLAN THAT'S GOING THROUGH ITS PROCESS.
THE CITY HAS FUNDS FOR DOG PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IF WE NEEDED A DIFFERENT TREATMENT OF THE PERIMETER WALL AT THE DOG PARK INTERFACE.
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REITERATE, UM, THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WE'RE ELIMINATING THE FOUR STORY STACK FLATS, UM, REPLACING THEM WITH THREE STORY TOWN HOMES.WE'VE REDUCED THE OVERALL UNIT COUNT BY 50 HOMES, BRINGING THE DENSITY BELOW, UM, 20 UNITS PER ACRE, AND ELIMINATING THE MIXED GENERAL PLAN REQUEST THAT INCLUDED A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION, UM, LOWERING THE OVERALL HEIGHT TO BE 38 FEET, UM, INCREASING THE OPEN SPACE ON SITE AND THEN PROVIDING THE 1.45 ACRE PARK DEDICATION TO EXPAND DEL NORTE PARK.
AND SO, AS JEFF MENTIONED, OUR CURRENT REQUESTS, UM, NEXT SLIDE AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE.
I ALSO HAVE MY, UM, TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND MY CIVIL ENGINEER IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
OKAY, NOW WE WILL HEAR THOSE IN FAVOR, MARIO.
ALVARO, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ IT.
I KNOW, I KNOW YOUR NAME BY HEART ALREADY.
UH, THANK YOU PLANNING COMMISSION FOR HEARING US OUT HERE.
UH, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROJECT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UM, AND I FEEL MERITAGE HAS DEFINITELY DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, GOING, REMOVING THE FOUR STORY, UH, HOMES, REDUCING THE UNITS, UH, GRANTING PART OF THE, UH, PARK BACK.
THE BIGGEST THING, UH, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS WAS THE TRAFFIC, WHICH I THINK INITIALLY WAS PART OF THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
I STILL CAN'T GET THAT RIGHT, BUT, UH, IT GOT PULLED ASIDE BY THE CITY OR TRAFFIC COMMISSION AND THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD STUDY ON THAT.
UM, LIKE WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING HERE.
UM, ALL IN ALL, I THINK THEY'VE, UH, WELL, I GUESS I ALSO WANNA REMIND THOSE THAT ARE COMING TO MAYBE SPEAK AGAINST IT THAT HAD MERITAGE ALLOTTED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THESE HOMES TO BE VERY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE TODAY.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN A MINISTERIAL REVIEW AND IT WOULD'VE JUST BEEN PASSED, UM, PER CALIFORNIA, UM, GUIDELINES.
SO, UM, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE HERE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE RESIDENTS, UM, I THINK IT'S A VERY, UH, POSITIVE THING.
UH, MOVING ON TO CITY ASPECT OF THIS, UM, I WAS WAS TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES.
NOT SURE IF THOSE GOT CHANGED SO WE CAN GET SOME MORE MONEY THERE.
UM, ALSO ART IN PUBLIC SPACES DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
NOT SURE IF THERE'S MONEY IN LIEU OF THAT, AND I KINDA WANNA MAKE SURE ALL THIS MONEY THAT MIGHT BE IN LIEU OF THINGS IS NOT GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT IT GETS, UH, TAGGED, YOU KNOW, FOR ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE, UH, THE AREA OF THE PARKS THAT IT DOESN'T JUST GET DUMPED INTO A GENERAL FUND.
OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK, UM, THEY'VE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.
THE HOMES JUST GONNA USE MY TIME UP HERE.
THE, UH, THE AESTHETIC OF THE HOMES ALONG THE PERIPHERY, UM, I FEEL LOOK WELL AMONGST THE, UH, HOUSES THAT ARE, WOULD BE ACROSS THE WAY THE PARKING, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS WOULD HAVE THEIR PREFERENTIAL PARKING, UM, THE TWO CAR GARAGE, THE EXTRA STORAGE SPACE, AND THEN THE TWO CAR GARAGE BEING MONITORED, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT CARS ARE IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, NOT ANOTHER FAMILY IS LIVING INSIDE THE GARAGE THING.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD, UH, THING THERE.
HOW ARE YOU? UM, I'M, I'M VERY, VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MERITAGE MADE.
IT, IT, IT IS A HUNDRED TIMES BETTER.
THE DONATION OF THAT BASEBALL FIELD BACK TO OUR WHOLE CITY IS JUST AN AMAZING IMPROVEMENT AND THE SIZE I THINK IS APPROPRIATE NOW FOR THE AREA.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW.
UM, AS A LIFELONG RESIDENCE, I KNOW I'M GONNA SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UM, EVEN THOUGH MERITAGE IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING, UH, THEY DO DO GOOD WORK.
I'VE SEEN THEIR THEIR HOMES BEFORE.
IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL AGAINST, UH, UH, THE DEVELOPER.
MY, I'M VERY UPSET WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR SELLING THE PROPERTY IN THE FIRST PLACE,
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UH, FOR MANY REASONS.BUT, UH, THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU GOTTA LOOK AT.
SO FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE TRAFFIC.
SO WHEN YOU LEAVE DEL NORTE AVENUE AND NORA, WHEN YOU GO, IF YOU'RE GONNA GO, UH, WESTBOUND ON THE 10, YOU GOTTA GO OVER TO WORKMAN AND THEN OVER TO ORANGE TO CATCH THE 10 FREEWAY.
WELL, AT THAT POINT, WORKMAN IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND IT'S ALREADY CROWDED.
UH, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE, 'CAUSE NOBODY ELSE LIVES OVER THERE.
YOU, YOU WOULD, IT'S CROWDED, YOU, IT'S ALWAYS PACKED.
AND THEY PROBABLY DID THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT NOBODY LIVES OVER THERE.
AND, UH, I THINK THEY NEED TO REDO IT.
SO YOU'RE GONNA PUT IN 240 UNITS AND YOU'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE 60 GUEST PARKING.
SO THAT'S ONE FOR EVERY FOUR UNITS REALLY.
WHERE'S EVERYBODY GONNA PARK, DO YOU THINK? UH, NO FAMILY MEMBER'S GONNA COME OVER.
DO YOU THINK EVERYBODY'S JUST GONNA BE TWO PEOPLE LIVING IN THE HOUSE? IF YOU DO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DELUSIONAL.
SO THEY NEED TO COME UP WITH MORE PARKING AND, UH, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
UH, THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH EVERYTHING THE CITY IS THROWING AT THEM.
THEY, THEY, THEY PASS EVERYTHING WITH FLYING COLORS AND, AND YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE NO CHOICE TO APPROVE IT OR YOU WILL BE SUED.
UM, JUSTIN HARVEY, YOU DIDN'T PUT, IF YOU WERE FOR AGAINST, COME ON IT.
HOW'S IT GOING? UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UM, SO BASICALLY I, SAME THING.
UM, A LOT OF MY CONCERNS WERE, UH, VOICED.
UH, WE'RE KIND OF CLEARED WITH, UH, THIS NEW, UH, CHANGE.
BUT THERE'S JUST STILL A FEW THINGS.
LIKE, UM, ONE CONCERN IS PARKING.
UM, EVEN IF THE PROJECT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, REAL LIFE CAN LOOK REALLY DIFFERENT.
UM, I LIVE IN APARTMENTS RIGHT NOW, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE UNITS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE ON SUNSET, IT'S ALREADY OVERFILLING, IT'S SPILLING OUT ONTO THE STREET.
SO WITH THIS BEING, YOU KNOW, ALMOST THREE TIMES THE SIZE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE HARD JUST TO SAY THAT IT'S, EVERYTHING'S GONNA WORK OUT THAT WAY.
SO I DO RECOMMEND, UM, MAYBE THOSE GARAGES, HOW THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE GONNA LOOK INTO, UM, CHECKING THEM OR, AND SUCH LIKE THAT ACTUALLY GETS PUT TO USE.
UM, AND ALSO, UH, THE TRAFFIC FLOW, UH, SUNSET MAY IMPROVE, UH, CIRCULATION, BUT, UM, IT MAY CHANGE HOW DRIVERS MOVE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SPEED CONTROL, CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, UM, JUST ADDING THAT MANY CARS ON THE ROAD, UM, IT'S ALREADY A, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AT DOWN ROLAND AND SUNSET, THAT'S WHERE SO MANY ACCIDENTS HAPPEN AND IT'S A BOTTLENECK.
SO JUST ADDING THAT MANY CARS, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA EVEN LOOK.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, JUST PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UH, AREAS THAT INCLUDE FAMILIES, CHILDREN, PARK USERS, UM, SIDEWALKS, JUST, UH, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT IS CON UM, JUST TREATED AS IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE PROJECT, NOT AFTERTHOUGHTS.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL PRETTY MUCH ALL I'D REQUEST.
UM, REALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THE SLIDE THAT THEY SHOWED EARLIER, THE SCHOOL SITE DEVELOPMENT COMPARISON CHART.
THEY, THEY SHOWED IT JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, THE GENTLEMAN, UM, I HAD NEVER SEEN THAT AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I MEAN, THE, THE MERITAGE HOMES, IT IS GONNA, THEY DO EXCELLENT WORK, SO THE HOUSES AND THE ENCLOSED ATTICS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE SHOWING, SHOWING THAT CHART RIGHT NOW, IT SAYS, UH, LOTS SIZE AT PIONEERS, 9.1 ACRE, 158 UNITS, VINCENT, 8.0 ACRES, 119 UNITS, AND DEL NORTH, THE 11.7, 232, THE NUMBERS ARE JUST, UH, THE PERCENTAGE YOU'RE, YOU'RE MOVING FOR HIGH DENSITY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR HIGH PROFIT.
THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT CAN CONTINUE, IT'LL ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY, IT'LL BE GREAT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE LOWERED.
THEY WILL STILL PROFIT SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THE ONE 60 TO 180 RANGE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE TO THIS LEVEL.
THEY CAN RENEGOTIATE WITH, WITH THE SCHOOL FOR VERY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING BECAUSE I DUNNO IF IT CAME UP THE, UM, THAT SLIDE COME UP.
NO, IT WAS ANYWAY, BUT IT, IT'S JUST GOING ON.
IT'S 17 DENSITY WITH PIONEER, BUT PIONEER AND VINCENT, THEY'RE BOTH ON MAJOR STREETS.
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UNIQUE.IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENTS IN WEST COVINA, IT'S ENCAPSULATED BY RESIDENTS.
WHAT SHE STATED RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE DENSITY THAT THE, THE, UM, STOP SIGN, UH, THERE AT ROWLAND AND SUNSET FAILED.
AND IT'S GONNA FAIL FOR 2029 OR 2027 AND 2050 WITHOUT THIS IMPACT.
AND WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT IT IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S ALREADY, IT IS ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY IN NEED OF SUPPORT.
IT'S AL ALREADY OVERCROWDED AND THEY SAY, OH, THIS IS NOT GONNA MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT ALREADY IS OVERCROWDED.
SO SHE STATED RIGHT THERE, IT'S ALREADY A TROUBLED PLACE.
I'M ONE BLOCK FROM THERE, HALF A BLOCK.
ACTUALLY, I EXPERIENCE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
SO LOOKING AT THAT, 415 PARKINGS FOR NINE ACRES, SEVEN A HUNDRED FIFTY EIGHT UNITS, 285 PARKING SPACES FOR 119 UNITS.
SO HOW DO YOU GO FROM 11.7 ACRES AND 9.1 ACRES, 158 HOUSES TO 232, 5 56, AND FOUR 15 PARKINGS.
THE PARKINGS ARE JUST ABOUT THE SAME WITH A QUARTER OF THE HOUSES LESS.
BUT VINCENT IS A MAJOR STREET.
THE IMPACT IS NOT AFFECTING WHERE KIDS CROSS THE STREET WHERE THEY'RE BICYCLING AND SKATEBOARDING TO SCHOOL.
THERE ISN'T A SCHOOL NEAR THE VINCENT OR PIONEER.
I'M AN EDUCATOR AND MY KIDS WENT THERE AND THEY STILL CONTINUE TO CROSS THE STREET AND NEED THAT.
WE CAN'T DO THAT TO OUR CHILDREN.
WE CAN'T DO THAT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
PLEASE JUST DROP IT INSTEAD OF THE HIGH DENSITY, HIGH PROFIT.
LET'S MAKE IT ETHICAL AND RIGHT FOR EVERYONE.
I THINK THAT THE PROJECT IS TRYING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, BUT SOMETIMES BEING IN COMPLIANCE IS NOT ALWAYS DOING THE RIGHT THING.
I THINK THAT THERE IS BETTER THAT CAN BE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY, THE DENSITY.
I, I AGREE WITH WHAT I, I BELIEVE ERIC IS HIS NAME, UH, WAS SAYING IT, IT IS TOO MANY HOMES.
UH, I THINK IT CAN STILL, IT CAN DO BETTER AND THE PARKING CAN DO BETTER TOO.
WITH THREE TO FOUR BEDROOM HOMES, THERE WILL BE MORE THAN TWO DRIVING ADULTS IN THE HOMES, AND THERE WILL BE THE NEED FOR MORE THAN TWO CARS IN EACH HOME.
WE NEED MORE OPEN SPACES FOR JUST FOR, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE LEAVING THERE TO MAKE IT EVEN EASIER FOR THEM AND LET ALONE THE COMMUNITY THAT ALREADY EXISTS WITHIN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK THAT THE NOTICING, EVEN THOUGH IT SAID THAT, UH, OR THEY SAID THAT, UM, IT WAS NOTIFIED THAT IT FELL AND IT CAME BACK UP AGAIN.
I WANNA MENTION THAT I DID STOP BY OR, OR WAS PASSING BY APRIL 10TH, THAT'S 18 DAYS AGO, APRIL 10TH, THAT SIGN WAS ALREADY ON THE FLOOR.
AND THE REASON WHY IT CALLED MY ATTENTION IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A FAMILY READING A SIGN THAT WAS UP AND IT, IT, IT WAS IMPRESSIVE TO ME BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING SHOWING UP TO THE MEETING, AND WHEN I APPROACHED THEM, WHAT THEY WERE COMMENTING ON IS, OH, TOO BAD.
WE ALREADY MISSED THE MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS ON DECEMBER X, DECEMBER 9TH, AND THAT IS THE SIGN THAT THEY WERE READING.
I TRY TO TELL 'EM, OH NO, THERE IS ANOTHER ONE ON THIS SIDE, AND THAT SIGN WAS ALREADY ON THE FLOOR.
SO THE NOTICING HASN'T BEEN PROPERLY DONE.
AND MY APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE IF THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT TIME TO, UM, TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
I, WE LIVE ON NORA RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE TAKING PLACE.
UM, WE TAKE PRIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE KEEP IT CLEAN.
RECENTLY, WHAT I'VE BEEN NOTICING IS, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF HOMELESS AT THAT PARK THAT THEY'RE THERE IN THE MORNING, THEY'RE THERE LATE AT NIGHT.
UM, THEY, I'M NOT SURE IF THE POLICE ARE GOING AND PATROLLING.
HOWEVER, LATELY, THERE'S PEOPLE LIVING IN THEIR, THERE'S A VAN THAT COMES AND PARKS IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE AND IN BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
UM, AND THEY'RE THROWING THEIR TRASH OUT, LETTING THEIR DOGS JUMP OUT OF THE YARD AND POOP ON THE YARD'S, NOT PICKING IT UP.
AND SO, UH, MY CONCERN NOW IS WITH THE PARK BEING PATROLLED, IF THEY'RE
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GONNA PATROL OUR STREETS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE CONTRIBUTING MONEY, BUT NOW IS THAT MONEY GONNA BE USED TO ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT THE OTHER EXPENSIVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE ALL THE MONEY'S GONNA GO TO.UH, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT I COULD, UM, ADDRESS HERE WITH YOU, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT THAT IS MY MAIN CONCERN, IS THE HOMELESS NOW THAT ARE BEING SHOOED OUT OF THE PARK, BUT NOW PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF.
UH, GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION.
I GET A LITTLE NERVOUS, SO I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME.
I'M A PROUD RESIDENT OF, UH, WEST COVINA FOR THE PAST 26 YEARS.
I LIVE IN WEST, THE DISTRICT ONE, AND I'M STILL KIND OF BORDER ON THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE PRIORITIZE OUR QUALITY, UH, OUTDOOR SPACE FOR OUR CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE 200 NEW FAMILIES THAT ARE MOVING IN.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE LITTLE, LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS AND HAS SADLY FALLEN INTO DESPAIR.
AND IT'S UNFAIR FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PASS THE FIELD YES, TO THE CITY, BUT IN SUCH POOR CONDITIONS, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR THAT FIELD AND HAVE IT READY FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE, UM, TO KEEP RUNNING AND MAKE IT INTO A MAJOR FIELD.
UM, I PROPOSE, UH, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS REGARDING THE DESIGN AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SURROUNDING STREETS REQUIRE DEVELOPER TO COLLABORATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO IMPLEMENT SLOW STREET MEASURES, SUCH AS SPEED RADARS, SPEED BUMPS WITH EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESSES ON THE PROJECT'S FRONTLINE ALONG NORA AVENUE, THE NORTE AND ROLAND AVENUE.
UH, THIS IS CRUCIAL AS ALL THE TRAFFIC IS BEING REDIRECTED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DUE TO THE SUNSET AVENUE, ALLOWING ONLY RIGHT TURNS MANDATE THAT THE PROJECT INCLUDES A PARKING DEMAND MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH MUST BE APPROVED BY PUBLIC WORKS TO ENSURE PROPER PLANNING AND MITIGATION, UH, MITIGATE ANY PARKING OVERFLOW INTO OUR NEARBY, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, DESIGN, UH, THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING SHOULD FEATURE DECORATIVE ELEMENTS THAT WRAP AROUND THE, THE BUILDING, INCLUDING TRIMS, MATERIAL, UH, VARIATIONS AND STYLISH DETAILS.
TO ENHANCE THE VISUAL APPEARANCE, UH, THE STACKED FLATS MUST HAVE COVERED BALCONIES INSTEAD OF OPEN TRELLIS, WHICH DO NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE SHARE SHADING OR PROTECTION FROM THE RAIN AND OTHER WEATHER ELEMENTS.
UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE, THE ART FUND, 'CAUSE I BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA BE RECEIVING SOME MONEY.
I WOULD PROPOSE IF, UH, THIS COMMITTEE COULD ALLOCATE OR DIRECT THAT MURAL OR WHATEVER ART PIECE IS GOING, THAT IT STAYS IN DEL NORTE, UM, AS WELL AS WHATEVER FUNDS WE RECEIVE FROM THIS PROJECT, THAT IT GETS REINVESTED TO DISTRICT ONE SINCE IT'S GONNA BE AFFECTING DISTRICT ONE.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE NOTIFIED OF ANY, UH, UPCOMING COUNCIL HEARINGS, BECAUSE THE WAY I FOUND OUT WAS, LUCKILY MY COUNCIL MEMBER SENT OUT NOTICES, AND SO THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I EVER HEARD OF THIS PROJECT, AND I GOT THE NOTIFICATION AND I REACHED OUT TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT.
SO THIS WAS A NOTIFICATION THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT COMING ABOUT.
I KNEW THE LAND WAS GONNA BE SOLD.
I KNOW A LOT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE ATTENDANCE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP IT GOING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER NOTIFICATION TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THAT 400 OR 500 RADIUS.
UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE APPLICANT A CHANCE IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS.
UH, YEAH, SO JUST, UM, A FEW THINGS.
UM, THE PROJECT WILL BE OBLIGATED FOR, UM, PARK IN LU FEES, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE PROVIDING, UM, THE PARK DEDICATION, IT'S NOT THE FULL OBLIGATION.
SO THERE WILL STILL BE A REMAINDER PARK IN LU FEE THAT IS, UH, ABOUT $961,000.
WE WILL BE DOING AN ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, UH, IN LU FEE, WHICH IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE $378,000 TO THE CITY.
AND THEN, UM, GENERAL DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES FOR THE HOMES THEMSELVES IS ABOUT $384,000.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $1.7 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES TO THE CITY.
UM, WE ARE ALL FOR IT IF THERE'S A WAY TO ENSURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE ABLE TO STAY IN
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DISTRICT ONE AND, AND BE IMPLEMENTED IN THIS AREA.I'M NOT SURE THE, THE MECHANISM FOR THAT WITH THE CITY.
UM, THE, UM, MY, MY TRAFFIC CONSULTANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THAT, BUT I DO JUST WANNA TOUCH ON, UM, THE, THE LAST SPEAKER WHO ASKED ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, UM, FOR TRAFFIC RELATED TO THE FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTIONS, THEY DID ACTUALLY, UM, IMPLEMENT A, A NUMBER OF TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SO THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE, UM, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE SURROUNDING STREETS.
SO I WANNA SAY IT GOES UP TO ROLAND STUFF DOWN ON, UH, WORKMAN OVER TO ORANGE AS WELL.
SO IN THAT GENERAL AREA, THERE WILL BE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE PROJECT IS OBLIGATED TO DO IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.
UM, WITH PARKING IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE ON INFILL.
UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I, I CAN, I CAN SAY THAT OUR EXPERIENCE IS THAT BECAUSE WE TARGET A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER, FIRST TIME MOVE UP BUYER.
UM, A MAJORITY OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS REALLY ARE ONLY THOSE, YOU KNOW, TWO ADULTS DRIVING.
UM, AND THAT WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF, UH, MULTI ADULT HOUSEHOLDS LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
NOT TO SAY IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, UM, BUT OUR HOAS WITH THE CCNRS HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL BEING ABLE TO ENSURE THAT GARAGES ARE BEING USED FOR PARKING BY THE RESIDENTS THAT GUEST PARKING IS GETTING MANAGED, AND THAT IT'S NOT BECOMING OVERFLOW PARKING FOR RESIDENTS, THAT IT IS REMAINING FOR GUESTS.
UM, REGARDING, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TOUCH ON.
I KNOW THAT A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE TOUCHED ON THAT WITH, UM, REGARDS.
BECAUSE THERE IS A SCHOOL THAT IS TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE SITE, UM, THE PROJECT WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN WITH THE TRAFFIC CALMING.
THERE'S ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SAFE LINE OF SIGHT AND ALL OF THAT FOR THE IMMEDIATE PROJECT AREAS SO THAT, UM, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY BEING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PARK, UM, IS AT THE FOREFRONT.
UM, AND AGAIN, KIND OF REITERATING THE, THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT AT THE END OF THE DAY PROVIDES ADDITIONAL EYES ON A COMMON SPACE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE MORE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, A LOT OF TIMES IT, IT COMES DOWN TO RESIDENTS REACHING OUT TO THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE CITY SAYING, HEY, THIS IS GOING ON.
AND SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA KEEP PUSHING THE, THE SQUEAKY WHEEL TO SEE CHANGE.
AND THIS IS JUST GONNA BE MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO CARE ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO WANT TO SEE THIS BEING A THRIVING PARK AND, AND PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, THAT NEIGHBOR SURVEILLANCE, NEIGHBOR OUTREACH, MAKING SURE THAT IT CAN BE, UM, A SPACE USED AND ENJOYED BY EVERYONE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE THINK THAT THAT IS GOING TO HELP HOPEFULLY MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE NEGATIVE BEHAVIORS THAT CAN CREEP UP.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT COME UP AND ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL? YEAH.
HELLO? UH, MY NAME IS ROBERT VU.
I'M A LICENSED TRAFFICKING JUNIOR IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING TRAFFIC.
THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE RESIDENTS, SOME OF THOSE ARE, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU ADDRESS THOSE SO THEY CAN BE PUT AT EASE OR MAYBE JUST HAVE SOME OF THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
UM, REGARDING THE COMMENT ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING, UM, THE CORRIDOR, UM, ANYTHING, UH, WE PROPOSED, UM, SEVERAL TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES WITHIN THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE IN CITY TO CONSIDER TO SLOW DOWN SPEEDS.
UM, ONE COMMENT, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO PROVIDE ON STREET PARKING, AND THAT'S DOCUMENTED AS A WAY TO SLOW DOWN SPEEDS, MAINLY BECAUSE, UM, IT PROVIDES WHAT WE CALL SIDE FRICTION.
UM, IT NARROWS THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD.
UH, PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING ANY POSSIBLE, UM, DOORS OPENING, UM, SOMEONE LOADING THEIR CAR OR THE CAR MERGING INTO TRAFFIC.
AND THAT IN A WAY SLOWS DOWN TRAFFIC, UM, FOR THAT CORRIDOR.
AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSED, UM, SPEED HUMPS OR SPEED CUSHIONS.
THAT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE CITY'S DISCRETION TO IMPLEMENT.
UM, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS REGARDING SPEED HUMPS OR SPEED CUSHIONS ARE, UH, SLOWING EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES AND INCREASED NOISE FROM VEHICLES GOING, UH, OVER THOSE, UM, TRAFFIC COMING MEASURES.
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EFFECTIVE IN SLOWING DOWN SPEEDS.UM, IT IS DOCUMENTED TO REDUCE, UM, CORRIDOR VOLUMES, PEOPLE JUST USING THE ROAD AS PASS BY.
UM, THAT IS, IT IS DOCUMENTED TO REDUCE SPEEDS AND, UH, TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
AND THERE ARE OTHER, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, UM, ROUNDABOUT OR TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
UH, ROUNDABOUTS TYPICALLY CARRY A LARGER AREA AND, UM, IT IS DOCUMENTED TO REDUCE, UH, CONFLICT POINTS BE SAFER FOR, UH, VEHICLES, PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS THAT, UH, CAN ALSO BE CONSIDERED.
UM, UH, ANOTHER OPTION FOR ROUNDABOUT IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RIGHT AWAY, AND THE INTERSECTION IS A TRAFFIC CIRCLE, WHICH IS ALMOST LIKE A MINI ROUNDABOUT.
UH, CITY OF LONG BEACH DOES HAVE THIS THROUGH A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT DOES, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE SPEEDS, UH, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE, UM, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
UM, EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE ABLE TO, UH, GO AROUND IT IF IT'S DESIGNED PROPERLY.
AND, UM, OVERALL IT DOES IMPROVE, UH, SAFETY FOR EVERYONE.
UM, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC FLOW, UM, IT IS DOCUMENTED IN THE TRAFFIC REPORT THAT THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES AT ROLAND, UM, BOTH THE NORTH ROLAND AND SOUTH ROLAND.
AND THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO PAY THEIR FEES TOWARDS, UM, THAT FUTURE IMPROVEMENT, WHICH WILL HELP, UH, TRAFFIC CIRCULATION WILL HELP, UM, MANAGE LEFT TURNING CONFLICTS.
UM, PEOPLE WAITING AT A STOP SIGN, THAT IMPROVEMENT WILL GIVE THEM PROPER RIGHT OF WAY CONTROL TO TURN, UH, MORE SAFELY RATHER THAN WAITING FOR GAPS IN TRAFFIC.
THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL PROVIDE THAT GAP IN TRAFFIC.
AS FAR AS PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UH, WE DID LOOK AT, UH, SITE DISTANCE COMING IN AND OUT THE DRIVEWAYS.
UM, THERE ARE, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS TO, UH, KEEP VEGETATION AT A, UH, MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
UM, UH, UH, THAT I BELIEVE THAT HEIGHT IS AROUND 30 INCHES, UM, THAT'S LESS THAN THREE FEET, AND THAT'S, UM, SOMEONE SITTING IN A CAR WILL BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, UM, KID PET, A BICYCLIST OR PEDESTRIAN, UM, AS LONG AS THAT'S KEPT TO MINIMUM.
UM, REGARDING THE, UM, LET'S SEE.
I THINK THAT COVERED THE COMMENTS THAT I NOTED.
UH, DID I MISS ANYTHING? WORKMAN? I THINK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WORKMAN AS WELL.
UM, WORKMAN, THE PROJECT DOES HAVE, UM, TRAFFIC USE UTILIZING WORKMEN, UM, BUT THE TRAFFIC DELAYS THAT WE ANALYZED, UM, ANY QUEUING ALONG THERE, UM, THERE'S NO DEFICIENCIES AND IT MEETS, UM, ALL THE CITY REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, WOULD, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS TO THE CONSULTANT FROM THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW? SHOULD WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? FIRST QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NO, FOR THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, YOU MAY ASK NOW.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, YES.
SO, UH, SORT OF JUST A CURIOSITY OF MINE, UM, PRIOR TO THE LAST, UH, TO THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAD ON THE 27TH OF JANUARY, UM, I SAW THAT THERE WAS, I GUESS, AN ATTEMPT BY THE CITY OF WEST COVINA TO I GUESS, TRY TO PURCHASE THE PARK LAND, AND NOW IT'S PART OF A PARK IN OR PARK DEDICATION, I GUESS.
ARE, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE FACT THAT THE CITY WAS TRYING TO BUY THAT PARKLAND FROM YOU GUYS? I GUESS, UH, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WENT THROUGH ITS DISPOSITION PROCESS A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, THEY NOTICED OUT TO BASICALLY, I, I THINK THERE WAS 10 OR 15 DIFFERENT LOCAL PUBLIC AGENCIES AND SCHOOL TO SEE IF ANYONE WAS INTERESTED, AND THERE WAS NO INTEREST AT THAT TIME.
BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF IF THE CITY REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SEPARATELY, I'M NOT AWARE THE THE CITY DIDN'T REACH OUT TO YOU TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AT ALL? NO.
I JUST, I JUST SAW THAT ON A CLOSED SESSION THING, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S PART OF A, A DONATIVE TRANSFER, WHICH I WAS LIKE, THIS IS A LITTLE STRANGE ALL OF A SUDDEN.
IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING SORT OF COME TOGETHER IN THAT MANNER AND YOU GUYS DON'T
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KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS INTERESTING.UM, COUPLE, UH, COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO, TO ASK.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST ON, UH, DEL NORTE SPECIFICALLY, I NOTICED THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE, UM, YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE INGRESS AND EGRESS AS A RESULT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, DON'T YOU THINK IT'D BE WISE TO HAVE A SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET? UH, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM IMPLEMENTING ONE.
UH, ORIGINALLY THAT AREA WAS JUST GOING TO BE, UM, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING.
UM, BUT WHEN WE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SOME PARKING SPACES, WE ADDED THE PARKING SPACES, WE'RE HAPPY ENOUGH TO ADD SIDEWALK CONNECTING.
THE, THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THAT STREET, OTHERWISE, IT'S JUST GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC.
I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IT'S SORT OF A, IT'S SORT, IT'S SORT OF WAS LIKE A CUL-DE-SAC BASICALLY, UH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT AT THE TIME.
AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THE, UH, EXISTING TRACK THERE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS, AND THERE'S REALLY NO CROSSWALK THERE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CITY BECAUSE I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY TECHNICALLY ENDS, UM, SINCE THERE ISN'T IMPROVED SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, RIGHT NOW, SO WE, THAT'S PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE CITY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE, UM, EASEMENTS FOR, RIGHT.
IF THE CITY HAS AN EASEMENT, DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT, IMPLEMENTING THAT? I MEAN, IT PROVIDE UNIFORMITY THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL, IN ADDITION TO CONNECTING THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN A, IN A WAY THAT'S COHESIVE? UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY I WOULD SAY WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WHETHER IT'S, UM, A COST SHARING OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COSTS FOR THAT WOULD BE JUST GIVEN, UM, IF THERE'S RIGHTS OR EASEMENTS OR UTILITIES UNDERNEATH THERE.
I'M, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, SO IT COULD EASILY KIND OF SPIRAL INTO AN EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING, BUT FOR AT LEAST OUR PORTION OF, UM, DEL NORTE THAT WE'RE IMPROVING AND, AND EXTENDING WHERE THE PARKING IS, WE CAN ADD SIDEWALK THERE, IF NOT A PROBLEM.
YEAH, I, I, I THINK IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PARKING THERE AND, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME DEDICATED PARKING THERE, AND NO, NO WAY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME WITHOUT HAVING SIDEWALKS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS STARE A DREAM.
WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE, THE STREET FACING PERIMETER WALLS, UM, IT SAYS IN THE, UH, IN THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, UM, THERE'S, UH, I GUESS CLINGING VINES TO BE INSTALLED ON ALL, UH, RETAINING AND, AND, UH, FREESTANDING WALLS.
UM, DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE IN, IN TERMS OF THE FENCING AROUND THE PERIMETER? SO ON THAT, UM, WALL AND FENCING EXHIBIT NOW, CAN YOU, ONE OF YOU PUT THE WALL AND FENCING EXHIBIT BACK UP FOR ME? IS THAT FROM YOUR SLIDES? YEAH, FROM MY SLIDES, IT'LL BE, UM, I WANNA SAY NUMBER, NUMBER 20, SLIDE 23.
YEAH, THERE, SO THE YELLOW PORTION MM-HMM
IS ALL GONNA BE LIKE YOUR PRIVATE, LIKE VINYL AND INSIDE YARD FENCING MM-HMM
BUT THOSE CORNER ELEMENTS WHERE IT'S, UH, THE DARK BLUE MM-HMM
LINE, THAT'S OUR GONNA BE OUR BLOCK WALL.
AND IT'S IN THOSE AREAS, UM, FOR BOTH GR GRAFFITI PREVENTION AS WELL AS JUST KIND OF SOFTENING OF A BLOCK WALL.
THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR BLOCK WALL.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT LAYERED PLANTING, INCLUDING VINES WOULD BE MM-HMM
UM, SO REALLY IT'S THOSE, UH, SEVEN KIND OF END CONDITIONS, UM, THAT YOU SEE.
AND WE WOULD JUST WORK WITH OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PLANTING IS IMPLEMENTED AND THAT IT'S A PLANT SPECIES CONDUCIVE TO CLIMBING
I, I WOULD JUST HOPE IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO BECOMING A RAT'S NEST.
UM, OUR HOA WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING ALL OF THAT LANDSCAPING SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S KEPT IN GOOD ORDER.
UM, I HAD A QUESTION ON THE CCNRS, UM, THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE, UH, PRECISE PLAN 25 0 1, UM, AND THE
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RESOLUTION, UM, IT SAYS THAT GARAGES MUST BE AVAILABLE TO PARK VEHICLES.IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE USED.
SO THAT IS THE CITY'S LANGUAGE ARE ACTUAL CC AND R'S SUITE THAT RESIDENTS NEED TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES IN THEIR GARAGE WHEN THEY OKAY.
SO TO PARK THE TWO VEHICLES IN THEIR GARAGE.
SO THE, SO IN TERMS OF A MODIFICATION ON QQ, UM, THAT SH THAT SHOULD REFLECT THAT GARAGES MUST NOT JUST BE AVAILABLE TO PARK VEHICLES, BUT MUST BE USED BY THE OCCUPANTS.
CORRECT? I'M, UH, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT MODIFICATION.
WE'RE, LET ME JUST, UH, COMMENT ON THAT, THAT THAT MEANS IF SOMEBODY HAS ONE CAR, THEN IT, THE OTHER SIDE HAS TO BE AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES FOR PARKING, SO YOU CAN MODIFY THE CONDITION, BUT THAT, THAT WAS THE INTENT NOT TO, 'CAUSE IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CAR OR SOMEBODY HAD, DOESN'T HAVE ANY CARS, THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN STILL CONVERT THEIR GARAGE INTO SOMETHING.
THEY STILL HAS TO BE AVAILABLE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE PARKING CARS THERE.
THAT'S THE INTENT OF IT, BUT RIGHT.
FEEL FREE TO MODIFY IT HOW YOU THINK IS YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, WE, I, I THINK WE'VE INCLUDED THAT LANGUAGE IN, IN PRIOR PROJECTS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT JUST DIDN'T GET TRANSLATED HERE.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD.
UM, AS FAR AS, UM, UM, HOLD ON.
NEXT UP, I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE TRAFFIC, UH, THE TRAFFIC CALMING, UM, UM, FEATURES, I GUESS, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF MY, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS, BUT, UH, I, I THINK THAT OUR TRAFFIC COMMISSION'S PERFORMANCE LEAVES SOMETHING TO BE DESIRED.
SO I WOULD, UH, I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ARE, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE AT LEAST YOU'LL HAVE SOME, UH, SOME ACTUAL RESIDENCE, UH, INPUT ON THIS INSTEAD OF PEOPLE WHO JUST LIVE HERE AND LEAVE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
UM, I, I THINK THAT'S INHERENTLY PROBLEMATIC.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IF, UH, IF THIS PROJECT IS TO BE APPROVED.
UM, SO I, I DID, I DID, UH, I DID MAKE THIS REQUEST EARLIER.
I WANTED TO KNOW HOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL, UH, CENTER FIELD DEPTH FOR THAT BALLPARK CURRENTLY? OR WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? SO WE WOULD BE FROM HOME PLATE TO THE, UH, HOME RUN LINE WOULD BE 180 FEET, WHICH IS STANDARD FOR A FARM FIELD.
SO IT IS, YOU KNOW, I WANNA SAY THAT'S THE EIGHT TO 10 AGE, UH, FIELD FOR LITTLE LEAGUE.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT IS A 20 FOOT SAFETY BUFFER AREA, AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING BEYOND THAT BEFORE THE PROPOSED PERIMETER WALL.
SO THE, THE MAXIMUM DEPTH IS JUST 200 FEET? CORRECT.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE CAPPED OUT, WE CAN ONLY USE THAT FIELD BASICALLY FOR, FOR UP TO MAYBE AGE 10 TOPS, UH, IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S, IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S DESIGNED.
I, I, I MISUNDERSTOOD, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I THOUGHT IT WAS MAYBE UP TO THE, THE 200 FOOT STANDARD, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS USUALLY LIKE THROUGH AGE 13 KIND OF THING.
SO IT SORT OF LIMITS THE, LIMITS THE AVAILABILITY OF THAT FIELD FOR, FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND ELECTRICAL ON THAT SITE, I ASSUME THAT'S TIED TO THE EXISTING SCHOOL SITE.
SO I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL ABOUT THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULD BE AN EASY ENOUGH IRRIGATION SWAP, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT'S KIND OF BEEN ON MY MIND OF MAKING SURE, HEY, IF WE'RE GIVING THIS OVER TO THE CITY IN THE FUTURE, LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT CAN TIE INTO THE PARKS IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND TIE INTO ALL OF THAT.
SO, SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE SEAMLESSLY DONE, AND MERITAGE WOULD OBVIOUSLY MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS, UM, COMPLETED OR, OR WORK WITH THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS DONE.
THE, THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA ASK, UM, JUST WITH REGARD TO THAT SITE IS OBVIOUSLY THAT'S USED FOR, YOU KNOW, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY GAMES, YOU KNOW, USUALLY FROM LIKE FIVE TO 10, THAT'S SORT OF THE TIMELINE AND THEN IN THE MORNINGS ON SATURDAYS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MY, MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY EXPECTATION FROM HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE, IM IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SITE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LITTLE JOHNNY CAN'T GO UP AND, YOU KNOW,
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GET HIS NAME ANNOUNCED IN THE MORNING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE NEW RESIDENTS DON'T LIKE IT.SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS GONNA BE PART OF THE CCNRS PART OF, PART OF THE DISCLOSURE? YEAH, WE WOULD DE BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE, WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE DISCLOSURES NOT ONLY AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELDS BEING IN ACTIVE USE, BUT ALSO THE DOG PARK, BECAUSE THOSE ARE EXISTING USES THAT ARE ENJOYED BY RESIDENTS BOTH IN THE CITY AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
AND WE WOULDN'T WANT TO, UM, WE WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE FULL TRANSPARENCY, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE BUYING NEXT TO, UM, THIS IS AN EXISTING USE.
YOU CAN'T START CALLING THE CITY COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE EXACTLY.
NOTHING'S GONNA YEAH, EE EXACTLY.
THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A BIG CONCERN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEN IT WOULD BE SORT OF SETTING IT UP FOR AN UNTENABLE RESULT.
SO, UM, SO YOU BUY A HOUSE NEXT TO A TRAIN TRACK, YOU DON'T EXPECT ANY TRAINS EXACTLY.
UM, LET'S SEE, UH, HAD A FEW OTHER, UH, HAD A FEW OTHER ITEMS, UM, NOISE ORDINANCE, UM, I, I, I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE LOCATIONS OF ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMERS, VAULTS, ANTENNAS, MECHANICAL, AND OTHER EQUIPMENT.
UM, IT SAYS IT MUST BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, UM, AND PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
I THINK THIS IS UNDER SUBQ, UNDER PLANNING DIVISION.
UM, I, I, I THINK, I THINK IT'S GOOD POLICY THAT THIS SHOULD, THAT THIS STUFF SHOULD BE, UH, SHOULD BE UNDERGROUNDED.
UM, AND I THINK THERE'S NO REASON WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE PART OF THE, UH, CONDITIONS HERE.
SO, UH, YOU PHYSICALLY, A SEA DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO UNDERGROUND TRANSFORMERS FOR A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
SO THE RESIDENTIAL TRANSFORMERS ON SITE HAVE TO BE ABOVE GROUND.
THAT IS JUST WHAT SC OH, EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME.
I I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING BIG BOXES THAT YOU SEE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THOSE HAVE TO BE ABOVE GROUND.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL LINES.
UM, I DID, I DID WANT TO ACTUALLY, UM, COVER ONE OTHER THING.
I I, I JUST THINK IT'S A LITTLE STRANGE THAT, YOU KNOW, LARGE PROJECT COMES IN AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE STILL ABOVE GROUND POWER LINES, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, PARTICULARLY ALONG DEL NORTE AND THEN, UM, AND THEN ALONG, UH, SUNSET.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF NOT NOW, WHEN IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN? AND I, AND YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A NEXUS THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS TO MANDATE IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA SEE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN COMMIT TO, TO, TO DOING OR, SO WE HAVE EVALUATED THAT WITH OUR DRY UTILITY CONSULTANT, BECAUSE NORMALLY IN A PROJECT, IF YOU HAVE OVERHEAD LINES, YOU LOOK AT ALONG YOUR FRONTAGE, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO UNDERGROUND.
AND SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND UNFORTUNATELY WITH HOW, UM, THE POLES ON SUNSET ARE, FIRST OF ALL, OUR FRONTAGE ON SUNSET, IT'S ONLY 120 FEET MM-HMM
UM, SO IT'S A VERY LIMITED PORTION.
AND SO, AND, AND YOU CAN'T, THE, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD, UM, OBLIGATE FOR ADDITIONAL RIGHT.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW FAR THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO GO BASED ON POLES THAT HAVE EXISTING TRANSFORMERS ON THEM SERVING POWER TO EXISTING BUILDINGS, IT BECOMES A VERY LONG SPAN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDERGROUNDED THAT BECOMES, UM, COST PROHIBITIVE TO THE PROJECT.
UM, AND IN OUR INITIAL CONVERSATION CONVERSATIONS WITH SCE, THEY WEREN'T ACTUALLY, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF IT, SO THAT'S WHY, UM, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
BUT THE POLES, THE LIGHT POLES ON NORA THAT ARE CURRENTLY SERVED OVERHEAD, BECAUSE THOSE ARE GETTING RELOCATED, UM, SHIFTED WITH THE DRIVEWAYS, THOSE WILL BE REDONE TO BE SERVED UNDERGROUND.
UM, LET'S SEE, I THINK I HAD ONE MORE THING THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS.
THE, THE, THE STREETLIGHTS ON NORA RIGHT NOW ARE CURRENTLY SERVED OVERHEAD POWER.
AND SO BECAUSE WE NEED TO RELOCATE THOSE STREETLIGHTS TO AVOID DRIVEWAY CONFLICTS, THEY WILL BE REDONE AS UNDERGROUND POWER.
AND THEN THE ONE ON DEL NORTE, IT
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STILL REMAIN ON THE POLE IN THE FRONTAGE OF THE DEVELOPED AREA, THE DEL NORTE FRONTAGE WILL HAVE NEW STREETLIGHTS PUT IN AS WELL.SO THE DEL NORTE FRONTAGE AND THE NORO FRONTAGE OF THE PROJECT WILL HAVE NEW STREETLIGHTS AND THEY'LL BE UNDER UNDERGROUND POWER SOURCED.
I ACTUALLY, UH, IF THE TRAFFIC, UM, CONSULTANT CAN COME BACK UP, UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC IN PARTICULAR ROLAND AND WORKMAN AREA.
UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE MEDICATIONS THAT CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE THAT IN THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
UH, SO FOR THE FIRST ONE, UH, ROLAND, UM, THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO PAY FEES TOWARDS THE, IMPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, IT WOULD WORK SIMILARLY TO THE ONE AT WORKMEN, UH, THE EXISTING SIGNAL DOWN THERE.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS WORKMEN, UM, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ORIGINALLY WAS, UH, DID NOT CONSIDER THE LEFT TURN, UM, FROM SUNSET INTO DOWN NORTE WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL ANALYSIS THAT WE DID.
UM, THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC GOING DOWN WORKMEN AND USE, UTILIZING THAT TURN LANE INTO DONTE.
SO, UM, THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, IT PROVIDES A CONSERVATIVE ANALYSIS AND OVERESTIMATES THE ADDED DELAY AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND BASED ON THE CITY'S METHODOLOGY, UM, THERE IS NO DEFICIENCY AT, UH, WORKMAN THAT THE PROJECT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO OR CREATE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING BY INCREASING THE EFFICIENCY OF THAT, THOSE TWO CORNERS, PAYING THE FEE TOWARD BUILDING A STREETLIGHT IN THE FUTURE FOR THOSE TWO AREA, UH, IN ROLAND, THERE'S THE NORTHERLY ROLAND, AND THEN THE SOUTHERLY ROLL IN, UM, IN THE CITY'S, UH, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE PROGRAM, I BELIEVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS IDENTIFIED AS AN IMPROVEMENT UNDER FUTURE CONDITIONS, AND THE PROJECT WOULD CONTRIBUTE, UH, FEES TOWARDS THAT IMPROVEMENT.
ONLY THAT, UH, ONLY THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION, NOT AT THE BOOKMAN AREA? CORRECT.
UH, WORKMAN IS CURRENTLY SIGNALED, UM, AND THERE ARE NO, UH, IMPROVEMENTS RECOMMENDED TO ADDRESS ANY.
SO BY HAVING THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, IT'S ACTUALLY CAN HELP IMPROVE THE FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA? YES.
UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, IT'S, IT'S SAFER FOR ALL USERS, VEHICLES, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.
UM, THERE'LL BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO, UM, STOP CARS, UM, GIVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING RIGHT AWAY, BICYCLISTS AND ALL THAT.
SO OVERALL THERE WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT IN, UH, SAFETY AND TRAFFIC OPERATIONS.
QUESTION I, I HAD, I HAD ONE OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION, UH, PERTAINING TO THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
UM, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE APPROXIMATE, UM, ENTRY LEVEL PRICE WOULD BE LIKE AS IF IT WAS BUILT TODAY? I UNDERSTAND MARKET CONDITIONS CAN CHANGE AND EVERYTHING, BUT LET'S, LET'S SAY AS OF TODAY, WHAT WOULD THE PRICE, THE INITIAL PRICE BE? YEAH, SO WE HAVE THE TOWNHOUSE STARTING IN THE MID SIXES RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN THE SINGLE FAMILIES, I WANNA SAY ARE STARTING IN THE MID EIGHTS.
MY, MY, MY QUESTION ON THAT IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE HIGH INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE, UM, AND WHO KNOWS WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT HYPOTHETICALLY IS COMPLETED? UM, MY, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED, EXCUSE ME, MODERATE INCOME, UM, IS NOT SO, UM, IS NOT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY QUALIFY TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTIES, UM, WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT DOWN PAYMENTS.
SO, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, I, I'M CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME RANGE WHO CAN EVEN QUALIFY FOR A LOAN? UM, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FHA, SO THEY HAVE PRETTY SIZABLE LOANS TO BEGIN WITH, AND SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SIZABLE INCOME.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AN $800,000 HOUSE HYPOTHETICALLY, LET, LET'S, LET'S SAY THAT'S WHAT IT'S AT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING WITH THE CURRENT INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT SOMEWHERE IN THE
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RANGE OF $200,000 AND MODERN INCOME IN WEST COVINA IS SOMEWHERE IN THE ONE 20 RANGE.SO HOW DO YOU BRIDGE THAT CHASM THERE? THAT'S WHAT I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT.
AND IF IT GOES UNUSED, THEN WHERE DOES THE $15,000 MINIMUM PER UNIT GO? SURE.
SO THE, THE PROJECT IS OBLIG IS, UM, SETTING ASIDE 10% OF THE HOMES.
SO 23, 24 HOMES WILL BE SET ASIDE TO BE IN THE CITY'S HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT PROGRAM HAS THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA AND DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN EARN THE POINTS TO QUALIFY, UM, AND BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT.
I WANNA SAY ON SOME OF OUR PAST PROJECTS, WE'VE HAD ALL THE HOMES, UM, SELL TO YOU, SELL TO, UH, BUYERS IN OTHER SITUATIONS, WE HAVEN'T HAD ALL OF THEM SELL WHERE WE THEN TOOK THE REMAINING DOLLAR VALUE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRY AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
WE DO THE ADVERTISING, WE WORK WITH THE CITY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT THERE AND NOTICING, UM, THAT THESE ARE AVAILABLE.
BUT WHEN YOU HIT A CERTAIN POINT TO KEEP THINGS MOVING, WE, UM, WORK WITH THE CITY TO DO A LUMP SUM INTO, I FORGET WHICH FUND IT GOES INTO, BUT WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST TO ONE OF THE HOUSING FUNDS.
UH, SO I, I GUESS SORT OF MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT THIS IS APPROVED, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME, SOME, UH, SOME CASH CONTRIBUTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE PROPOSED AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING.
I WANNA SAY RIGHT NOW IT'S $15,000 CONTRIBUTIONS AND FOR THE 10%, UM, AND THEN MERITAGE, LIKE ALL OTHER BUILDERS, WE HAVE OTHER INCENTIVES THAT WE RUN.
SO I WANNA SAY IN SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING GREAT BUY DOWNS.
YOU KNOW, WE OFFER, YOU KNOW, COVER CLOSING FEES, WE OFFER A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS 'CAUSE WE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WORK WITH OUR BUYERS ONE-ON-ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP GET THEM INTO THAT HOME.
I, I, I WOULD, I WOULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THIS IS NOT SUCCESSFUL, AND I THINK UNFORTUNATELY GIVEN THE, THE INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT, I THINK THE HIGH LIKELIHOOD IS THAT IT WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL.
I, I THINK YOU, UH, YOU OUGHT TO CONSIDER PUTTING THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, MAKING OUR CITY MORE WALKABLE.
I THINK THAT'S A BETTER, BETTER INVESTMENT OF THE MONEY THAN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GIMMICKS, SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE AND APPRECIATE.
WELL, THE, THE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 10%, WOULD THAT BE A REDUCTION IN PRICE OR WOULD THAT BE, SO THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT THE CITY RUNS, IT IS A LUMP SUM CONTRIBUTION TO A QUALIFIED BUYER, UM, OF A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
SO WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO BE USED TOWARDS DOWN PAYMENT? YEAH, THEY CAN DOWN PAYMENT CLOSING COSTS, HOWEVER THEY WANNA UTILIZE IT TOWARDS, UM, PURCHASE OF THE HOME.
SO 10% OF 850,000, THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF, UH, 10% OF THE HOMES.
AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $15,000 CONTRIBUTION RIGHT NOW.
SO NOT 10% OF THE SALES PRICE, NOT THE PURCHASE PRICE.
IT'S 10% OF THE TOTAL UNITS WILL BE IN THIS.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? LUISA, UH, REGARDING THE LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL FIELD, UM, WILL YOU BE BUILDING OUT THAT PARTICULAR BASEBALL FIELD THAT, THAT CORNER, THE ONE POINT SOMETHING ACRE? SO WE'RE GONNA BE LEAVING THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD, WE'LL NEED TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE DELIVERING SOMETHING THAT'S USABLE AND, AND NOT IN DISREPAIR TO THE CITY.
SO, UH, RIGHT NOW THE PLAN WAS FOR THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS TO REMAIN, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY NEED TO DO A EVALUATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE FIELD IS USABLE AND NO ONE'S GONNA GET HURT ON IT.
SO, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DONATING THAT PARK OR IS IT NO, SO IT'S PART OF OUR PURCHASE.
IT'S, IT'S PART OF WHAT WE ARE PURCHASING, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DONE.
SO WHETHER IT'S WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS SINCE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE STAFF AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN START THAT PROCESS NOW, OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT MERITAGE DOES, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT WANTING TO NECESSARILY DELIVER SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, IN DISREPAIR TO THE CITY SIMILAR TO THE IRRIGATION.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING SOMETHING THAT'S, WERE YOU ABLE TO RECOUP ANY OF THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT AREA OR THEY, DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY CREDIT OR WOULD YOU JUST, UH, WE'RE WE'RE, IS THAT DEDICATED STRICTLY FROM WITH YOUR PURCHASE PRICES? WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE BASED ON LOOKING AT THE
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PLAN AND LOOKING AT THE TOTAL PROJECT, THERE IS A LITTLE BASEBALL AT THE ONE POINT SOMETHING ACRE BASEBALL FIELD.SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN THE PROJECT IS SAID AND DONE, WILL THERE BE A LITTLE BASEBALL FIELD? YEAH, SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS TELLING US THE PROPERTY AS IS, RIGHT? SO THAT MEANS THE SOFTBALL FIELD THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE, THE BASEBALL FIELD, ALL THE BUILDINGS WE, WE, WHEN WE CLOSE ON IT, WE OWN THAT, RIGHT? SO IT'S OUR, IF THE PREVIOUS PROJECT ITERATION THAT BUILT OUT THAT CORNER, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD'VE BEEN DEMOING EVERYTHING.
AND NOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS, UM, SOME IRRIGATION IMPROVEMENTS KIND OF ALONG THAT PROPERTY INTERFACE.
AND THEN, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE IRRIGATION'S CONNECTED TO THE CITY, MAKING SURE ALL OF THAT.
AND THEN THAT'LL GET DEDICATED TO THE CITY AT OUR FINAL MAP PROCESS.
SO IT, WHEN MERITAGE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST 'CAUSE THE TENTATIVE MAP IS APPROVED, IT'S NOT THE FINAL MAP.
SO THAT TRANSFER PROPERTY PROCESS, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS AND THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT DOING, UM, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY IMMEDIATELY HAPPEN.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BETWEEN, UM, WHEN THE PROJECT WOULD BE APPROVED AND WHEN IT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
DID YOU ADDRESS THE PARKING SPACES WHEN THAT FIRST MODIFICATION OR NO, THE GUEST PARKING SPACES? NO, BECAUSE THE, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP THAT THERE ARE ONLY 62 GUESTS PARKING SPACES.
AND FOR 232 HOMES, THAT DID SOUND QUITE A MINUTE AMOUNT OF PARKING.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK ON? MAYBE.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT RESIDENTS WOULD RATHER HAVE PARKING SPACES RATHER THAN, UM, TENNIS COURTS.
SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S CITY PROPERTY UNFORTUNATELY.
SO WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
UM, WE, WHEN WE WERE DOING THESE MODIFICATIONS, WE DID LOOK TO ACTUALLY MAXIMIZE AS MANY SPACES AS POSSIBLE AND I, AND I DIDN'T WANNA NECESSARILY, UM, BRING THIS UP.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY 66 GUEST SPACES.
UM, IT WAS A COUNTING ERROR ON THE PROJECT SUMMARY.
SO THERE'S ACT, IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE, BUT IT'S 66, NOT 62.
UM, AND WE, WE LOOKED TO SEE HOW WE COULD MAXIMIZE AS MANY SPACES AS WE COULD WHILE STILL KEEPING A PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, WORKED FOR WHAT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY AND, AND WORKED FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT MERITAGE NEEDED IT TO BE.
SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T SEE AN EASY WAY TO, TO EKE OUT ANY MORE SPACES.
UM, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, I KNOW THE TABLE SHOWED THAT THE OTHER SCHOOL PROJECTS, UM, DID, WERE ABLE TO, TO PROVIDE A SLIGHTLY HIGHER RATE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE DOES ONLY CALL FOR A QUARTER SPACE.
UM, SO WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT, UM, OBLIGATION.
UM, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS ON WHETHER YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, CONVERT THOSE TO PARKING SPACES? THE TENNIS COURTS? MM-HMM
UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY AROUND.
I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING JUST 'CAUSE IT'S OPEN SPACE.
AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CHALLENGE OF REMOVING OPEN SPACE AMENITY FOR, FOR PARKING LOTS.
I'M NOT SURE, UM, WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD BE.
SO NO, WE NEVER HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT.
WELL, WHEN THEY'RE, THEY HAVE THE LITTLE LEAGUES GOING ON, WHERE, WHERE IS EVERYONE GONNA PARK? IS IT ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THEY HAVE THE
SO THIS IS GONNA BECOME PART OF THE, THE RUST OF DEL NORTE PARK.
AND SO THERE'S THE, UM, MAIN PARKING LOT THAT'S OFF OF ROLAND.
AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADDRESS? SOME STAFF QUESTIONS? WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US OR? YES, I, I WILL DIRECT THIS AT, I, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A, A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION OR IF THIS IS A STAFF, UM, GENERAL STAFF QUESTION.
UM, THERE'S AN SB THREE 30 APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED FREEZING THE, UH, UM, UH, FREEZING THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT FEES.
UM, WHEN WAS THAT SUBMITTED IN THIS CASE? I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2025.
AND THE PARK, THE PARK DEDICATION FEES, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, WHEN WAS THAT FIRST APPLICATION SUBMITTED? THE FIRST APPLICATION, YES.
UM, LUISA CAN VERIFY THIS, BUT I BELIEVE, UH, IT'S, IT WAS EITHER, WE WEREN'T HERE AT THE TIME, SO THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION COMMISSIONER VERY CLEARLY, BUT
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IT WAS EITHER IN DECEMBER OF 2024 OR JANUARY OF 2025.SO WHAT FEE SCHEDULE, UM, WHAT FEE SCHEDULE ARE WE GOING OFF OF? AND ARE WE, ARE WE REQUIRED TO, UM, AS, AS AS A CITY, ARE WE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT THE SB THREE 30 APPLICATION ON THE UH, UM, ON THE FREEZING OF FEES? THE, THE FEE SCHEDULE? I BELIEVE THAT IT, IT, IT WAS PREDICATED ON WAS THE 2024, THE ONE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN PROBABLY JUNE OF 2024, I'M SORRY, JULY OF 2024.
UH, AND THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE PREVIOUS DEPUTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
AND SO THAT WAS THE, THE, THAT THOSE, UH, FEES WERE DOCUMENTED AND ACTUALLY THEY'RE, WHAT IS IN YOUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TONIGHT ARE THAT THE DOCUMENTED FEES PER UNIT? IT, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF UNCLEAR BECAUSE I, I, I WENT BACK THROUGH, I LOOKED UP THE SCHEDULE OF FEES AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE SCHEDULE OF FEES FROM 2024, UM, FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES WOULD'VE BEEN $4,550 PER UNIT AND $3,247, UH, PER UNIT FOR THE, UM, FOR THE ATTACHED, UM, SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY.
UM, AND SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A PRETTY SIZABLE, UH, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT, UM, LET'S SEE.
I, I THINK, I THINK BASED ON THE MATH I DID, IT WAS ABOUT A $395,000 DIFFERENCE BASED UPON 2024 AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO US WHEN WE, WHEN WE ARRIVED HERE SURE.
WAS A, UH, A LETTER THAT STATED THAT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES WERE 2050 $9 FOR SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND 1,468 FOR ATTACHED UNITS.
I HAVEN'T DONE ANY OTHER RESEARCH ON THAT COMMISSIONER 'CAUSE I WAS TAKING THAT FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WAS HANDED.
YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT, THAT WAS CLEAR TO ME WHERE THESE NUMBERS CAME FROM.
IT SEEMS LIKE, EXCUSE ME, WE'RE GOING BASED OFF OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES FROM DECEMBER, 2015 AS OPPOSED TO, UM, ANY TIME IN THE, IN THE RECENT PAST THAT, THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD.
JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF, UH, UM, SIZABLE AMOUNT OF, OF IMPACT FEE DIFFERENTIAL RELATIVE TO, UM, RELATIVE TO CURRENT NUMBERS OR EVEN THE LAST TWO, UH, FISCAL YEARS, UH, PRIOR TO THIS ONE.
UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY RESEARCH THAT AND PROVIDE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONVERSATION THE APPLICANT HAD, BUT, BUT, UH, IT SHOULD BE THE 2024 NUMBERS.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, CAN WE OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN AT A, YOU WISH TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SPECIFICALLY FOR ADDRESSING THIS ONE ISSUE? YES.
SO SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SB THREE 30, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE THIS CLEAR.
SO, UM, WHILE SB THREE 30 DOES VEST YOUR FEES AT TIME OF, UM, THE SB THREE 30 APPLICATION BEING DEEMED COMPLETE, THERE IS THE CAVEAT THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO INCREASE IF YOUR FEES ARE BASED ON, UM, CPI INCREASES AND I BELIEVE THAT WEST COVINA HAS PASSED THAT ORDINANCE MM-HMM
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, FEES THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING BASED ON THE CURRENT 2026 FEE SCHEDULE IS WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW.
UM, I WANNA SAY THAT THE PARK FEE IS THE ONE THAT IS KIND OF WEIRDLY CODIFIED INTO THE MUNICIPAL CODE, RIGHT.
UM, AND THEN THE PARK FEE, OR EXCUSE ME, THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES IS OBVIOUSLY DONE AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT COSTS, BUT THE, THE DIFF FEES, UM, I WANNA SAY WE, I I I, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE NUMBER OFFHAND THAT'S IN THE COAS, BUT IN OUR ACTUAL BUDGETS WE'RE, WE'RE GOING OFF OF THE CURRENT FEES.
SO IT'S THE, IT'S THE 4 48 45 86, UH, FOR 34 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND THEN $3,458 FOR THE 198.
UM, SO I I I, I CAN'T SPEAK EXACTLY TO WHAT THAT TOTALS TO, THAT'S VERBATIM FROM THE SCHEDULE.
AND, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ON HOW IT GOES FOR THE MULTI FOR ATTACHED UNITS.
SO I, I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW THE MATH IMMEDIATELY IN MY HEAD TO CONFIRM IF IT'S THAT PER UNIT OR IF IT'S DIFFERENT ON A PURPLE DING.
SO I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT EXACTLY.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT, UH, 384,000 IN DIFF FEES TOTAL FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY AND, UM, TOWN HOMES 384,000.
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YES.IT'S LOWER THAN WHAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT BY LIKE $16,000.
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT IN THE STAFF REPORT? JUST SO THE SAME PAGE WE'RE SPEAKING, I AM LOOKING AT, UH, 1, 2, 3, EXCUSE ME.
SO SEVEN EIGHT PAGES IN WHAT'S, IS THERE A TITLE TO THE PARAGRAPH? UH, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES SLASH PARK FEES.
YEAH, WE, WE NEED TO CHECK THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE, UH, KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'VE HAD THREE DIFFERENT, UH, UNIT COUNTS.
SO I, I, I DON'T, NOT SURE WHICH ONE THAT WAS AT.
UM, SO YEAH, IT, IT'S THE 200, IT'S A, WE WERE MORE FOCUSED ON PER UNIT IS BECAUSE THE UNIT COUNT KEPT CHANGING.
SO IT'S 2059 PER SINGLE FAMILY UNIT AND 1400 PER ATTACHED.
SO THAT'S THE NUMBERS WE WERE USING.
THEN WE'D MULTIPLY BY WHATEVER YEAH.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN TONIGHT IF WE HAD A NUMBER, WE COULDN'T PROMISE, 'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENS AT PINE, A COUNCIL MAY CHANGE AND THAT WOULD CHANGE THE NUMBER.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE USING THE BASE NUMBER AND NOT THE, THE, THE FULL NUMBER.
BUT I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BEING IN THERE.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVER VERIFIED THAT, THAT IF THAT'S THE NUMBER FOR 2 82.
BUT I DO BELIEVE, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE THE CPI CAVEAT ON THEIR FEE SCHEDULES THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS GONNA BE DRIVEN MORE AT TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE.
SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON IF AND WHEN THOSE HAPPEN.
SO ARE, ARE YOU, DID YOU GET THAT ANSWER? YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AT ANOTHER QUESTION? I I, I'M NOT REALLY TOO SURE SORT OF, I GUESS IT'S A NEBULOUS, IT'S A NEBULOUS DISTINCTION THAT SOME POINT SOMEBODY WILL FIGURE OUT, I'M SURE.
UH, SO YOU, YOU MADE MENTION OF, UM, THAT YOU, UH, DO A SURVEY EVERY, UH, YEAR OR EVERY HOW MANY MONTHS OR THE, UM, THE AVID SURVEYS.
THE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SENT TO LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE HOME BUYER WE HAVE.
SO WHEN YOU PURCHASE A HOME, YOU'RE KIND OF ENROLLED IN IT AND IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU EITHER IGNORE IT OR YOU TAKE IT.
AND, UM, WE TEND TO HAVE A VERY HIGH TURNOUT RATE, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR, OUR BUYERS.
AND THAT'S THE ONE MONTH SURVEY AND THEN THE ONE YEAR SURVEY.
SO THE RATIO OF THE PARKING SPACES, YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE MEETING THE QUOTA.
UH, DO THOSE, UH, APPLY TO ALL THE 232 HOMES OR ARE YOU, ARE YOU KEEPING OUT THE SFRS BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE FOUR SPACE? SURE.
SO IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE FOR 232 HOMES, THAT IS LIKE, WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT 0.25.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND WHAT THE MUNICIPAL CODE CALLS FOR SINGLE FAMILY, IT CALLS FOR TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE, TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.
AND THEN FOR ATTACHED PRODUCT HOUSING, IT WOULD BE TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE, UM, AND A 0.25 GUEST.
SO IF YOU WERE TO ACTUALLY BREAK APART OUR DIFFERENT USES, THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE TOWN HOMES, OUR RATIO WOULD ACTUALLY GO HIGHER.
IT WOULD BE A 0.3, A 0.32 IN THAT BALLPARK.
IF YOU WERE JUST LOOKING AT THE GUEST SPACES RELATED TO THE TOWN HOMES AND NOT THE SINGLE FAMILY, RIGHT, BECAUSE THE CHART THAT THEY DID HAVE UP, I MEAN IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, 80 PLUS HOMES FROM THE LA LAST ONE THAT WAS 153 OR SO, AND THE AMOUNT OF SPACES WAS, YOU KNOW, EQUAL OR, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T A SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ABOVE WHAT YOU KNOW FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN THE HOMES.
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WAS INADEQUATE.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THEM, BUT WE, WE TRIED TO MAXIMIZE PARKING AS BEST AS WE COULD.
NO, I MEAN, IN THIS PROJECT, YEAH.
SO THIS PROJECT SEEMS LIKE IT HAS MORE HOUSES AND LESS RATIO OF PARKING SPACES.
BUT, SO THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, WHEN YOU CALL THESE PEOPLE, ARE THEY DO, DO THEY EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PARKING? NO, I MEAN, WE DON'T.
I I, THEY WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT WITH BUYERS ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS.
IT IS, YOU HAVE TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE BUYING.
IF YOU HAVE THREE, FOUR CARS, THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THE COMMUNITY FOR YOU.
YOU ARE GIVEN TWO SPACES IN YOUR GARAGE.
AND, AND THE OPEN SPACES ARE FOR GUESTS AND OUR SALES COUNSELORS ARE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
SO OUR BUYERS GO IN WELL AWARE OF WHAT IT IS, UM, AND THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE BUYING INTO.
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WELL THANK YOU.WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING REAL QUICK.
I I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THIS.
GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE PROVIDED THE APPLICANT WITH AN, WITH ADDITIONAL TIME TO OPINE ON OTHER ISSUES.
UM, DO WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FURTHER? SO WE, UH, YEAH, WE WERE JUST ASKED THAT, UM, WE COULD, AS WE, THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT IS WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T JUST BE FOR MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
IT WOULD BE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK AGAIN.
UM, IF YOU WOULD, IF IT WOULD BE A PREFERENCE TO DO THAT.
YOU COULD LIMIT THAT DISCUSSION TO WHATEVER NEW INFORMATION WAS JUST PRESENTED WITH THE APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL AND THIS RECENT EXCHANGE.
UM, CAN WE LIMIT THE TIME TO, YOU CAN LIMIT THE, THIS IS YOUR, YOUR, YOU'RE GRANTING A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE.
YOU COULD LIMIT THE TIME TO ONE MINUTE TO TWO MINUTES.
UM, I THINK THAT IT'S, EVERYTHING'S ALREADY BEEN PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED.
SO THERE, THERE WOULD BE LIMITED ITEMS TO, YOU KNOW, FOR QUESTIONS.
SO LET'S, LET'S LIMIT IT TO ONE MINUTE PLEASE.
DID ANYONE LIKE TO COME UP TO ADDRESS THE APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL? OKAY, MARIO.
UH, THIS IS A KNOWN, SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP, UH, BEFORE, I'M JUST GONNA READ IT OUT LOUD.
UH, WEST COVINA DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES, UH, 232 UNITS, UM, AT A RATE OF 1,468 PER UNIT.
THIS IS BASED OFF A DIS SCHEDULE THAT WAS LAST COMPREHENSIVELY UPDATED IN DECEMBER OF 2019.
IN COMPARISON, THE CITY OF COVINA IS $10,000 PER UNIT.
UH, SO USING THE COVINA SCHEDULE 232 UNITS WOULD BE $2,320,000 IN IMPACT FEES.
UM, SB THREE 30 UH, ALLOWS FOR THE FREEZING OF THIS AT THE APPLICATION PERIOD.
BUT IF THERE IS A CHANGE TO THE GENERAL PLAN OR THE SPECIFIC PLAN OR A ZONE ZONE CHANGE THAT ALLOWS IT TO BE, UH, MODIFIED.
HAVE YOU FILLED OUT A CARD? NO, I HAVE, I'M GONNA BE REALLY QUICK.
YOU, YOU STILL HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD HERE IN THE FRONT.
YOU'VE ALREADY FILLED ONE OUT.
YOU CAN COME ON UP LAURA, REAL QUICKLY.
VERY, VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT THE SIDEWALK.
IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA PARK THERE, THEY NEED TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO WALK.
SECONDLY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN OVER TO THE PROPERTY AS COMMISSIONERS TO PLEASE GO VIEW IT.
THE PARKING FOR THE BASEBALL FIELD IS ALREADY THERE.
THOSE TENNIS COURTS ARE USED EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, MORNING TILL NIGHT.
SO THERE'S NO, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR ANYTHING WITH PARKING.
I HAD NOT COMPLETELY THOUGHT THE PARKING ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
I LOVE EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT EXCEPT THE PARKING.
UH, REBECCA, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, THREE THINGS.
I THOUGHT AT ONE OF THE TOWN HALL HALL MEETINGS, MERITAGE HAD SAID THAT THEY WOULD DO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BASEBALL FIELD.
SO I THINK THAT'S SORT OF A QUESTION THERE.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT THEY SAID THEY WOULD COMPLETE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
TWO, UM, THE TENNIS COURTS ARE NOT PART OF THE PROJECT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.
AND THREE, HAVE ALL OF YOU GONE AND SEEN THE SITE PHYSICALLY IN PERSON? 'CAUSE I THINK THAT IS A BIG THING THAT YOU NEED TO DO IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I JUST WANNA MENTION LAST TIME WHEN, UM, COUNCIL, UH, OUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE GUTIERREZ HAD, UH, A DISCUSSION HERE AROUND THE PROJECT.
THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM THE VINCENT PROJECT THAT SHOWED UP AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE PARKING IS GETTING SO TERRIBLE THERE THAT THE ABILITY TO HAVE SPONTANEOUS FAMILY GATHERINGS IS NOT HAPPENING FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE ANYMORE.
THEY'RE, THEY NEED TO PLAN AND IN ADVANCE FILE FOR A PERMIT, GET A PERMIT FOR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO PARK THE, I I BEG FOR YOU AND FOR THE PROJECT NOT TO DO THAT TO OUR RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FAMILY COME OVER AND JUST OPEN THE DOORS AND HAVE DINNER OR SOMETHING WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE WEEKS OF PLANNING
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FOR THAT.YEAH, SO I LIVE ON FLYING LANE JUST WEST OF THE, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PARKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE FOR ME, BUT IT'S KIND OF FURTHER OUT.
BUT IS THERE A CONSIDERATION FOR DRAINAGE? BECAUSE THE, WHERE I LIVE RIGHT NOW, THIS, THERE, THERE'S BIG AREA RIGHT HERE THAT ABSORBS A LOT OF THE RAINWATER, RIGHT? ONCE THIS IS THERE, THE DRAINAGE AS IT IS IT ALMOST CRESTS OR THE SIDEWALK WHERE I LIVE, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A, WHEN IT RAINS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HARD.
SO, UM, IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THERE LIKE, LIKE, UH, ANYTHING THAT DOWN, LIKE WHERE THE WATER'S GONNA GO AFTER WE PAVE ALL THIS AREA? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT WAS ONLY SPOKEN ABOUT.
SO YOU'RE OPENING UP A NEW, NEW QUESTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT COME BACK.
SO WE HAVE TO STICK TO WHATEVER THE, IT'S IN THE, WHATEVER IT WAS JUST RECENTLY DISCUSSED.
SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN WHEN YOU SHOULD HAVE COME UP THE FIRST
IF WE, IF WE WANT, WE CAN ASK HER TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS THAT.
SO YOU TALK ABOUT THE SIGNAL THERE AT ROLAND AND, UM, SUNSET, IF YOU DRIVE FROM WEST VENA PARKWAY ALL THE WAY TO IRWINDALE TO THE TWO 10 FREEWAY, THE, THE, THE LIGHTS ARE PACED AT A BLOCKS DISTANCE.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT ISN'T IS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF, UM, THE EXIT OF THE FREEWAY WHERE THE APARTMENTS ARE.
AND THE NEXT ONE IS ON PUENTE.
IF YOU PUT ONE THERE, IT'S GONNA BE FOUR STOPS.
THE CONGESTIONS WILL COME OUT AND MAKE A LEFT GOING NORTH FROM ROLAND OVER TO SUNSET, THE, THE LIGHT'S GONNA BE SIGNALED FOR SUNSET.
IT'S A FAST-PACED STREET AS OPPOSED TO ROLAND WORKMAN OR THE OTHER STREETS WANNA COME OUT.
ALSO THE CHART, SHE GOES, WELL, WE WEREN'T INVOLVED WITH THE OTHER PREVIOUS ONES, BUT IT'S EVIDENCE OF WHAT THE CITY WAS.
AND SAYING THE PREVIOUS BUILDS HAD THIS MANY PARKING SPACES AND THIS MANY HOMES.
SHE JUST SAID, OH, WELL, WE WEREN'T PERSONALLY INVOLVED WITH THOSE, BUT THE, THE, THE PLACE THAT THE COMPANY THAT WAS MADE IT ETHICAL AND REASONABLE, AND THE LAST THING, THE PARKING AT THE PARK IS ALREADY FULL.
NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE, THE LITTLE LEAGUE THAT'S GONNA BRING MORE PEOPLE.
BUT THE PARKING SPACES IS ABOUT 45 SPACES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, I'M A RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA AND I THINK HE SAID THE TRAFFIC FOR LA COUNTY THAT IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT US ON, UH, WORKMAN.
MY STREET IS ALREADY FILLED WITH CARS.
AND IF YOU'RE MAKING A RIGHT TOWARDS THE, UH, APARTMENTS THERE, YOU TAKE SO MUCH TIME TO TRY TO MAKE A RIGHT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING.
AND THEN THE SPACE THAT YOU HAVE BETWEEN TO GO STRAIGHT TO WORKMEN AND THEN MAKE A RIGHT, YOU CAN'T, BECAUSE THERE'S CARS PARKED THERE.
AND THEN HE'S SAYING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SPACE FOR BICYCLES AND, UH, FOR THE TRAFFIC TO MOVE EVEN SLOWER BECAUSE THERE'S CARS GONNA BE PARKED THERE.
THERE'S ALREADY CARS PARKED THERE FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ON SUNSET.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S FROM.
I MEAN, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEBODY HERE FROM TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT AT THIS MEETING.
NOT SOMEBODY THAT SHE BROUGHT BECAUSE WE'RE THE AFFECTED, I'M NOT AGAINST IT.
AND I THANK NICHOLAS LEWIS FOR SPEAKING UP FOR THE WEST COVINA RESIDENTS BECAUSE HE HAD A LOT OF, UH, UH, POINTS THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT.
BUT YOU CAN TELL THAT HE'S LOOKING OUT FOR US, AND I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TOO.
LOOK AT THINGS THAT WE CAN'T, THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
BUT YEAH, SO WORKMAN, THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
AND UH, WEST
SO, UM, DOES THE APPLICANT WANNA COME BACK AND ADDRESS THOSE LAST COMMENTS? ARE YOU WONDERING ABOUT DRAINAGE SPECIFICALLY, OR? I, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.
BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, UH, ORMAN IS A VERY CONGESTED STREET, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SCHOOL DOWN, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THE WAY PEOPLE IN THE MORNINGS COMING FROM ALL DIRECTIONS.
UM, WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY FOCUS ON IT, BUT JUST HIGH LEVEL.
UH, THE, THE SITE DOES THE, THE PARK CURRENTLY DOES DRAIN ONTO THE SCHOOL PROPERTY.
IT DRAINS RELATIVELY NORTHEAST TO SOUTHWEST.
SO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS, UM, AT THE PROPERTY LINE, THE INTERFACE WITH THE PUBLIC PARK IS WE'LL BE CREATING, UM, UH, KIND OF CONCRETE V DITCHES TO CAPTURE ANY, WE'LL HAVE, UM,
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WEEP HOLES IN THE WALL SO THAT WATER CAN PASS THROUGH.'CAUSE THAT IS THE NATURAL HISTORICAL FLOW OF DRAINAGE.
IT'LL BE CAPTURED IN, UM, A VDI KIND OF CHANNEL AND CONVEYED OUT INTO THE EXISTING STORM DRAIN SYSTEM.
WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SEPARATE, UH, INFILTRATION BASIN AREAS.
SO IT'LL BE CAPTURED ON SITE, DIVERTED, GO THROUGH A MODULAR WETLAND SYSTEM TO BE CLEANED AND THEN, UM, BE ABLE TO INFILTRATE IN THE GROUND.
SO THAT IS HOW STORM DRAIN WILL BE, UM, COVERED ON SITE.
UM, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WORKMAN.
UM, LET ROBERT, UH, HELLO AGAIN.
SO, UH, WORKMAN, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS, UH, RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT AND LEFT IN PROPOSED ON DEL NORTE, WORKMAN WILL BE LESS UTILIZED BY THE PROJECT THAN THE OTHER TWO ACCESS POINTS CLOSER TO THE PROJECT.
THE CONVERSATION THOUGH IS ABOUT WORKMAN GOING TOWARDS VINCENT TO GET ON THE FREEWAY.
SO ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT OUR, OUR SCOPING WITH TRAFFIC WAS INCLUDED THE CERTAIN EXTENT.
IT INCLUDED THE INTERSECTION OF, OF WORK MINUTE, SUNSET.
IT, THE CONVERSATION WITH TRANSPORTATION DIDN'T HAVE US GOING AND LOOKING AT WORKMAN AND VINCENT OR LOOKING AT, I KNOW THE ONE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE FREEWAY ON RAMPS AND OFF RAMPS, AND THAT INVOLVES CALTRANS AND IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING.
SO IT'S KIND OF BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT.
SO IN THE SPECIFIC AREA OF THE PROJECT, WHAT WE WORKED WITH, WITH THE CITY ON WHAT NEEDED TO BE ANALYZED, THAT IS WHAT WE ANALYZED.
UM, WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE DRIVEN IT BEING, BEING UP HERE AS MUCH AS I HAVE DOWN WORKMAN.
AND IT IS A, IT IS A BUSY STREET, AND YOU DO SEE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE PARKED, YOU KNOW, THAT UTILIZE THAT STREET PARKING.
SO IT, IT DOES CREATE THAT BIT OF, UM, TRAFFIC WELL INHERENT AS KIND OF ROBERT SPOKE TO TRAFFIC CALMING BECAUSE IT DOES FORCE IN THEORY, SLOWER SPEEDS.
BUT, UM, PEOPLE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, GOING THAT WAY IF THEY'RE TRYING TO CONNECT ON THE 10 THERE.
AND IT'S, UM, COMMON AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING PRACTICE TO LIMIT THE STUDY ERROR TO 50 PEAK HOUR TRIPS.
THAT'S LESS THAN ONE VEHICLE A MINUTE, WHICH, UM, TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING, UM, SOMEONE DRIVING CAN OBSERVE, UH, MORE THAN 50 PEAK HOUR TRIPS.
UM, THEY MIGHT SEE ONE MORE CAR WHILE THEY'RE, UH, COM UH, COMMUTING TO THE FREEWAY.
UH, DURING THAT TIME, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS COMMON TRAFFIC ENGINEERING METHODOLOGY AND IT WAS, UM, SCOPED WITH THE CITY AND IT WAS AGREED TO UPON A STUDY AREA BASED ON THAT.
SO, I MEAN, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST EVERYONE WHO CAME HERE TO SPEAK AND IS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IRATE ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ALREADY SOUNDS BAD.
UM, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH REGARDING THE, THE PARK, THE, THE FIELD, AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST GOING TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AND TELLING THEM TO GIVE THEM FUNDS FOR MORE PARKING.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT, UM, WILL, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION, THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, CRAZINESS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY THAT WILL BE ENHANCED BY THE ALL THESE 232 HOMES PLUS A FIELD.
SO THAT TO ME, I, I, I THINK THAT THE PARKING IS AN ISSUE AND I, I KNOW THAT YOU MEET THE QUOTA AND YOU'VE ALREADY DONE SO MUCH.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU KNOW, 50 HOMES AND YOU'RE PROBABLY, WHAT MORE DO THESE PEOPLE WANT, YOU KNOW? BUT I, I THINK THAT THEY WANT PARKING.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO IN NEGOTIATIONS AS IF YOU'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THE SCHOOL BOARD OWES THESE RESIDENTS FOR WHAT THEY DID TO THEM.
SO IF YOU WANT, YOU SHOULD START WRITING LETTERS, GO OVER THERE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU KNOW, START TALKING TO PEOPLE OVER THERE AND TELL THEM THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM.
THEY NEED TO WORK WITH LUISA HERE.
NO, UH, NOW, UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION? ANY MORE OPEN DISCUSSION? I, I HAD ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, WAS THIS, UH, WAS THIS SITE, UH, PART OF THE, UH, PARCEL LIST THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT?
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I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM.I BELIEVE IT WAS NOT GOOD POINT.
IS THERE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT WE CAN ASK FOR? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN MET BY THE APPLICANT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ON OUR END THAT WE COULD ASK FOR TO HELP WITH THAT? THE DECISION IS TO, IT IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION ON, ON WHAT STEPS TO TAKE NEXT.
UM, I DO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO MOTION, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MODIFICATION ON ITEM QQ, UH, TO, UM, REGARDING THE CCNRS, WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT AMENDMENT, UM, IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOTION.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WITH THIS PROJECT, I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IT CAME ACROSS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND, UM, I AM VERY GLAD THAT THE RESIDENTS HAS A LOT OF INPUT INTO THIS PROJECT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, IT'S, THIS PARTICULAR LAND WAS SOLD BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO WE WISH THAT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DISCUSSION.
THE RESIDENT HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO WHEN THEY GET TO THIS POINT.
THE CITY BASICALLY NEEDS TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, IN TERMS OF HOUSING, UM, CRITERIA THAT HAS TO BE MET FOR THE CITY.
AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD CAME A FEW TIME TO REDUCE THE NUMBER, UM, FROM 280 PLUS TO NOW DOWN TO 232.
I MEAN, IT MAY NOT SEEM A LOT, BUT THE HOUSING NUMBER GOT REDUCED IN ITS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF YOUR INVOLVEMENT.
UM, IN TERMS OF ASKING FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL FIELD, THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE REDUCING THE NUMBER, UM, A LOT OF TIME, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN THE STATE PUT PRESSURES IN THE CITIES TO COME UP WITH 5,000 SOME UNITS BY YEAR 2029.
BUT EVERY LITTLE WEST CARINA PROBABLY, THIS IS ONE OF THE, I WANNA SAY LAST, UM, LARGE LOT THAT WE CAN BUILD WITH A PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, GOOD SIDE UNITS VERSUS THE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL WHERE YOU CAN GET ONE OR TWO UNITS OUT OF THAT LOT.
BUT DESPITE EVERYTHING, IT WILL IMPACT, UH, THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL HASN'T REALLY OPENED OR NOT PARTIALLY OPEN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
SO THAT AREA WAS NOT IMPACT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC DURING THE MORNING THAT YOU'RE USED TO IN A SCHOOL AREA.
IN FACT, I LIVE ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM SCHOOL AND I TRY TO AVOID THE EIGHT O'CLOCK AND THE THREE O'CLOCK WHENEVER THEY GET OFF SCHOOL.
SO I TRY TO STAY AWAY FOR 30 MINUTES OR SO BEFORE I START GOING OUT.
BUT I DO COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN NOT FULLY OPERATIONAL FOR A LONG TIME.
SO YOU'RE USED TO TRA LESS TRAFFIC THAN WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF IT WAS FULLY OPEN.
UM, TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL IMPACT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER, UM, WHAT THEY WILL DO, BUT IT WILL IMPACT THE AREA, UM, IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING.
UM, BUT AT LEAST BECAUSE OF YOUR INVOLVEMENT, THE DEVELOPER HAS, UM, TRIED TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS THERE.
UM, YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU WANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, I, THIS IS, THIS PLANNING COMMISSION TONIGHT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT WHETHER THE CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, UM, THAT WOULD BE THEIR DECISIONS AT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE HERE TONIGHT WILL BE JUST A RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE MAY INCLUDE SOME INPUT IN TERMS OF WHAT
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WE WANTED TO ADD.UM, IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT, THAT WAS NOT ONE OF THE OPTIONS.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS TO REFER THIS TO CITY COUNCIL AND NO, YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
RIGHT NOW, MY RECOMMENDATION EARLIER IS IF YOU MOTION TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU MOTION WITH THE, UM, CHANGE TO QQ REGARDING THE PARKING.
AND WE'LL WORK ON, UH, TIGHTENING THAT UP SO THAT IF GARAGES ARE USED SOLELY FOR, UH, THE PARKING OF VEHICLES, WE'LL TIGHTEN THAT UP, UH, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL TEXT.
UM, WE CAN START WITH THE MOTION.
I, I MEAN, I CAN MAKE A MOTIONS TO FORWARD THIS TO THE CITY COUNCILS WITH ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS SUCH AS, I LIKE TO SEE IF THE LITTLE LEAK FEEL, UM, WHEN IT'S SAID AND DONE, UM, HOPEFULLY THE DEVELOPER CAN IMPROVE THAT LITTLE AREA INSTEAD OF JUST LEAVING AN AREA CALLED A PARK.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO ALSO REGARDING PARKING TO SEE IF WE CAN INCREASE A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING SPACE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO WORK WITH WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN IMPROVE THE NOT.
UM, AND ALSO TO SEE IF, IF IT DOES IMPROVE TRAFFIC, THE AREA, WHETHER IT'S WORKMAN OR ROWLAND WORKMAN OR ROWLAND, IF IT DOES INCREASE TRAFFIC TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING.
I'M NOT SURE, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO THE FREEWAY AND THEY DO WANNA MOVE EVERYONE THAT GET OUT OF THE FREEWAY FURTHER OUT.
AND IF YOU PUT MORE TRAFFIC, IT WOULD BE, IT COULD CREATE MORE PROBLEM.
BUT, UM, IF IT, IF TRAFFIC CAN BE IMPROVED BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT, I'M NOT SURE I FORGOT WHERE WERE ROLLING.
OR, UM, WORKMAN HOPEFULLY THAT RECOMMENDATION TO GET INTO THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEE IF THOSE THREE ITEMS CAN BE HELPFUL TO THE RESIDENTS.
SO I WAS GONNA, I I THINK THAT WE ARE LIMITED HERE TO, IT'S ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE FOR WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY HIGHER, MORE DISCUSSIONS AND MODIFICATIONS THAT CAN BE, UM, ANY COMPROMISES WITH THE, THE APPLICANT.
UM, AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, WE, WE'VE MADE SUGGESTIONS IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'VE HEARD YOU, THIS IS YOUR PLATFORM RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU GET TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AND WE DID HEAR YOU.
I THINK COMMISSIONER LEWIS MADE EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.
THE PARKING IS EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.
I MEAN, I THINK EVERYONE IN THE CITY HAS HAD NEW HOMES.
I MEAN, I, I'M BY WEST VENA HIGH SCHOOL, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DID WE ALREADY HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC ON THAT INTERSECTION ON CAMERON LA ELLEN, WHERE IF MY SON WANTED TO GO TO SCHOOL AT WEST COVINA, I SAID, YOU CAN WALK FASTER THAN I CAN DRIVE YOU.
SO ANYWAYS, UM, AND THEN THEY BUILT ON TOP OF THAT, THEY BUILT THE HOUSES RIGHT THERE WHERE DUB DAY USED TO BE AND THE CHURCH.
SO WE FILL YOUR PAIN
BUT YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WE ADJUST TO IT.
AND IT, IT ACTUALLY WASN'T TOO BAD.
THEY MADE, I BELIEVE THE THREE-WAY LIGHTS.
SO I'M, I'M NOT TELLING YOU TOO BAD.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT I'M SAYING, UM, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE A LOT OF THE THINGS WERE WELL THOUGHT OUT AND, UM, 'CAUSE THEN I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE YOU GUYS COMING BACK SCREAMING.
BUT I THINK THEY WERE WELL THOUGHT OUT.
AND, UM, LIKE COMMISSIONER HANG SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, WE DO HAVE TO COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR ALL THAT THEY HAVE DONE TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE RESIDENTS.
AND THEY'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, ALL THE COMPLAINTS AND, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT TOO, 50 50 HOMES THAT THEY, THEY REMOVED, THAT'S ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF PROFIT FROM THEIR BOTTOM LINE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH, WITH US.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW BEFORE EVERYTHING'S SOLIDIFIED, I WOULD DEFINITELY START COMPLAINING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, MAKE THEM WORK WITH THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, SO AS FAR AS MOTIONS, ANY SUGGESTIONS? I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST SAY THIS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE ARE POSITIVES TO THIS, TO THIS PROPOSAL.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME SUBSTANTIAL NEGATIVES.
MY, MY GUT FEELING UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH IS THE, THE, THE PARKING ISSUE AND THE FRANKLY SUBSTANTIAL
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SIZE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THIS.UM, HONESTLY, I, I, UH, I, I STRUGGLE WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WE NEED UNITS.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT PART OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS IS, UM, FRANKLY IN AN AREA WHERE I, I JUST, I I, I COULD NOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, UM, MYSELF SAY I WOULD WANT THIS TO BE PART OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT IS, I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT.
SO, HAVING SAID THAT, THOUGH, HAVING SAID THAT THOUGH, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AND ULTIMATELY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT I THINK OR WHAT ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS COMMISSION THINK, UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A CITY COUNCIL DECISION.
SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, UM, I THINK THAT WE SEND THIS TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WITH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT I SET FORTH, UM, AND, AND ANYTHING THAT MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO ADD ON, UM, AND SAYING, HEY, LOOK, WE THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL PARKING.
WE THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SIDEWALK CONSIDERATIONS.
WE, WE THINK THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES, EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, UM, IF THEY'RE TO APPROVE IT, THEY SHOULD INCLUDE THOSE AS ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.
UM, HOWEVER, I I, I WOULD SAY THAT WE, WE SEND A RECOMMENDATION, AND THIS WOULD BE MY MOTION, MY MOTION IS TO DENY IT.
UM, HOWEVER, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF THE COUNCIL IS TO OVERRULE US, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE PROJECTS WORSE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
WE WANT THEM TO WORK OUT IN A WAY THAT, UM, IS AS CONDUCIVE AS POSSIBLE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S THE RESPONSIBLE THING, AND THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
UM, SO IT'D BE A MOTION TO DENY THE RESOLUTION.
UH, I THINK IT'S RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 DASH SIX, UH, 6 1 7 5.
I NEED TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
FIVE, FIVE RESOLUTIONS, FIVE RESOLUTIONS, EXCUSE ME.
UH, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER 25 DASH OH ONE ZONE CHANGE NUMBER 25 DASH OH ONE PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 25 DASH OH ONE TENTATIVE TRACK MAT NUMBER 0 0 4 6 1 8 ENTRY PERMIT NUMBER, UH, 25 DASH 10.
UM, I WOULD MOTION TO DENY WITH A CAVEAT THAT, UH, IF THE COUNSEL IS TO OVERRULE US, THAT, UH, THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE, UM, THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
UM, AND IF I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ARTURO HAS THAT INFORMATION, IF IT'S, UH, YEAH, JUST TO RECAP, THERE'S A SECOND.
THE ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT WERE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FIELD.
UM, INCREASE IN GUEST PARKING, UM, LOOKING TO ANALYZE A LIGHT AT ROLAND AND SUNSET, THE SIDEWALK CONSIDERATION ALONG DEL NORTE AND UNDERGROUND UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES ON SITE UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES ONLY ON SITE, UH, PARTICULARLY ALONG THE, UM, THE DEL NORTE AND SUNSET CORRIDOR RE THAT WASN'T ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT, THAT YOU MENTIONED.
THAT, THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY ITEMS. ULTIMATELY PARKING IS A PARKING'S A CONSIDERATION.
AND HOWEVER, HOWEVER, THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDE, HOWEVER IT WORKS GO RIGHT.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR DISCUSSION ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.
WELL, I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD DENY IT, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE A MOTION TO REFER IT TO CITY COUNCIL.
TONIGHT'S VOTE IS ABOUT RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO HIS MOTION IS TO NOT MOVE IT TO CITY COUNCIL IS TO NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO, TO THE, TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO BASICALLY, HIS, HIS, UM, MOTION IS TO NOT RECOMMEND TO MOVE TO CITY COUNCIL.
NO, THAT'S NOT RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE.
SO IT'LL, IT'LL BE APPROVED WITH,
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I'M, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL DENY, DENY.AND SO WE, AS A BODY WOULD MAKE AS, AS WE DO IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE RECOMMEND DENIAL, UM, THAT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE A PRECISE PLAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH IS WHAT'S INCLUSIVE IN HERE.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE SAME IF WE JUST CON, YOU KNOW, SEND THIS TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, US DENYING ITS, IT'S, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT ANYWAYS, YOU KNOW? SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT WOULD NEED TO FURTHER NEGOTIATION AND DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, WITH THE APPLICANT.
SO, SO THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE FINAL APPROVING BODY FOR EXACTLY, FOR PROJECT LIKE THIS, YOUR CHOICES ARE ONE OF TWO.
IT'S EITHER WE DO NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THAT IS WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER LEWIS'S RIGHT.
HAS, HAS MOVED IT HAS NOT BEEN SECONDED YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE HAS MOVED.
YOUR OTHER CHOICE IS WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
IT'S KIND OF TOUGH DECISIONS WHEN THE CITY SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL HAS TO LAND.
WE CURRENTLY, WE CAN'T LEAVE IT VACANT.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO, WE CURRENTLY HAVE PENDING A MOTION, NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL PENDING.
WELL, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD AN OPTION TO REFER IT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT JUST DENYING IT.
I CAN MAKE A MOTIONS TO, UH, MOVE IT TO CITY COUNCILS WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT REGARDING THE PARKING, WHICH IS WHAT I SAID.
SO I'LL, I GUESS IF SHE MOTIONED THAT, I'LL SECOND IT.
SO NOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO MOVE IT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
CITY COUNCIL WITH NO RECOMMENDATION.
WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF NO RECOMMENDATIONS WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE REGARDING THE PARKING, THE FIELD, THE SIDEWALK, THE PARKING, WHAT ELSE? THE LIST THAT, OKAY, SO YOU, ARE YOU SUGGESTING A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS RELATING TO THE SIDEWALK ADDITION, THE CORRECTIONS OF THE CC AND R, THE LITTLE FIELD, THE LITTLE LEAK FIELD IMPROVEMENTS, AN INCREASE IN PARKING, THE WORKMAN TRAFFIC ISSUES, AND THE UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES.
THAT WOULD YOU, YOU WOULD, IS IS, HAVE I CORRECTLY CHARACTERIZED YOUR MOTION? AND SECOND, YES.
THAT WOULD BE A REC THAT YOU, YOU WOULD ONLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THOSE CONDITIONS IN PLACE? YES.
AND THEN WE STILL HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER LEWIS HAS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENYING THE PROJECT.
TO DIRECT, TO RECOMMEND IT TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY DENY THE PROJECT.
THE COUNCIL, WE DON'T HAVE A STANCE TO DENY IT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
WE, THAT WE DON'T, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT LUXURY.
SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE SCHOOL BOARD WHEN THE FIRST TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, AT THIS TIME, UH, COMMISSIONER LEWIS'S, UH, MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, WE HAVE A MOTION.
A SECONDED MOTION PENDING FOR RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.
I DO ADDITION OF A SIDEWALK, UM, THE CORRECTION OF THE CC R REGARDING VEHICULAR PARKING AND GARAGES.
UH, FAIRLY MINOR LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD IMPROVEMENTS, PARKING, A PARKING INCREASE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH SOME SORT OF WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR OTHERWISE.
UM, A, UH, SOME SORT OF FURTHER RESOLUTION OF WORKMAN TRAFFIC FLOW ISSUES, AND, UM, UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES AND AN AREA THAT'S SPECIFIED.
YEAH, SHE, SHE DID ADD PARKING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A SECOND MOTION FOR ME.
I'M IN FAVOR? YES, WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
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COMMISSIONER CASTELLANO'S.SO, UM, THIS DECISION WILL BE FINAL UNLESS WRITTEN.
SO THIS IS GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ANYWAY, SO WE'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
SO THIS MOTION FOR TONIGHT IS BEING RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND AT THE TIME, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE VOTING ON THIS PROJECT WHEN, UH, I'M SORRY.
DECIDED WE, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATE SET YET, BUT WE ANTICIPATE SOMETIME IN JUNE.
YOU DID? OF COURSE IT'LL BE, YES.
IT'S USUALLY ON THE WEBSITE, THE CITY WEBSITE.
IT'S, IT'S ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
SO WE GIVE EVERYONE A FEW MINUTES.
WE'LL GIVE EVERYONE A FEW MINUTES TO, CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE? ABSOLUTELY.
WE'LL DO A 10 MINUTE BREAK IF THAT WORKS.
ALRIGHT, ON COMMISSIONING COMMISSION MEETING BACK IN SESSION.
[3. CODE AMENDMENT NO. 26-01 CEQA GENERAL EXEMPTION]
WE ARE REVIEWING CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 26 DASH ONE ARTURO, WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.WE WILL GET A POWERPOINT GOING UP REAL FAST.
TONIGHT, UM, WE HAVE A CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 26 0 1 FOR A, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE TO, TO ESTABLISH OBJECTIVE AND REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND, AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
AMEND THE LAND USE REGULATION TO LIMIT HOTEL AND MULTI CONVERSIONS TO THE REGIONAL MIXED USE OR RMU ZONE AND AN AMENDMENT TO PROCEDURES FOR PROCESSING PLANNING APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SUBMITTAL DEADLINES.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
THE DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS APPROVED IN, UH, FEBRUARY, 2024.
AND THE CODE, IN ESSENCE, UH, UH, MERGED BOTH THE SUBDIVISION CODE AND THE ZONING CODE INTO A SINGULAR DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND SO THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, PERIODICALLY RECEIVES UPDATES, UH, TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN POLICIES.
UH, THE CONTINUED EFFECTIVENESS OF LOCAL LAND USE REGULATIONS AND CALIFORNIA HOUSING LAWS, UH, THAT REQUIRE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, UM, UH, REQUIRE THEIR COMPLIANCE.
CURRENTLY THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, CURRENTLY THE DEVELOPMENT CODE PROVISIONS ADDRESSING SUPPORTIVE AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, UH, DOES NOT IDENTIFY HOTEL AND MULTI CONVERSIONS WITHIN LAND USE TABLES.
UM, ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE LACKS CLEAR LANGUAGE THAT STATES THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND ACTIVE PLANNING APPLICATIONS MAY REMAIN OPEN, WHICH CAN RESULT IN A BACKLOG OF ABANDONED UH, APPLICATIONS.
UM, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THE NEED TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO CLARIFY REGULATIONS, UH, APPLICABLE TO SUPPORTIVE AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND ESTABLISH OBJECTIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CONSISTENT WITH STATE HOUSING LAW, REFINED LAND USE REGULATIONS RELATED TO HOTEL AND MULTI CONVERSIONS TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE CITY'S LAND USE FRAMEWORK AND ESTABLISH CLEAR CONSISTENT PROCEDURES GOVERNING APP PLANNING, APPLICATION PROCESSING, INCLUDING APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS, COMPLETENESS DETERMINATION AND RESUBMITTAL TIMELINES.
SO THE TAX AMENDMENT TONIGHT, UM, WILL ESTABLISH SOME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR SUPPORTIVE AND TRADITIONAL HOUSING SECTION 26 1 3 3.
UH, THESE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WILL INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, THESE TYPES OF USES PROVIDE OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT PLANS THAT THEY, UM, SUPPLY AN ANNUAL REPORTING TO THE CITY.
UM, AND IT, THE TEXT WILL, UM, ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO CREATE AN APPLICATION AND SUBMITTABLE SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS, UH, WHICH W CAN BE UPDATED FROM TIME TO TIME.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THE LAND USE TABLE, UH, DOES NOT INCLUDE A, UM, UH, HOTEL MOTO CONVERSION, UH, UM,
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LAND USE.SO WE'RE ADDING ONE SO THAT, UH, HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSIONS ARE LIMITED TO ONLY REGIONAL MIXED USE ZONES.
UH, WE'RE ALSO AMENDING, UH, THE PLANNING APPLICATION SECTIONS 26 1 8 2, UM, TO, FOR THE REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF PLANNING APPLICATIONS.
THIS WILL AUTHORIZE A DI DIRECTOR TO ESTABLISH A LIST OF APPLICATIONS, UH, FOR PLANNING THE CREATION OF, OF A SUBMITTAL CHECKLIST FOR THOSE DOCUMENT, FOR THOSE, UH, APPLICATIONS.
AND, UM, ALYSSA REQUIRED SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTATION TO HELP WHEN ANALYZING FOR CE QA.
UH, THE APPLICATIONS WILL ALSO HAVE A 180 DAY DEADLINE FOR RESUBMITTAL FOR INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS.
WHEN WE RECEIVE APPLICATIONS, WE BEGIN OUR ANALYSIS AND WE'VE NOTICED THAT, UM, WE, WE, WE RETURN TO THE APPLICANT A DEEMED IN INCOMPLETE OR A CORRECTION LETTER, UM, AND A LOT OF THE TIMES, OR, UH, THERE'S A PORTION OF TIMES WHERE THOSE APPLICATIONS, THOSE APPLICANTS DON'T RETURN, UM, REVISED PLANS CORRECTING THOSE, UM, THOSE, UH, REQUESTS.
AND SO THEY STAY IN OUR, IN OUR FOLDERS.
UM, SO WE ARE NOW CREATING A DEADLINE SO THAT WE CAN DEEM THESE APPLICATIONS AFTER 180 DAYS, DEEM THOSE APPLICATIONS WITHDRAWN, WE WILL ALLOW FOR ONE 90 DAY EXTENSION PROVIDED THE APPLICANT, UH, SUBMITS, UH, THEIR REQUEST IN A TIMELY, UM, MANNER.
UH, AND THOSE LASTED APPLICATIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED, UM, WITHDRAWN, AS I MENTIONED.
AND IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK WITH THAT SAME PROJECT, IT'LL BE CONSIDERED A NEW APPLICATION.
I THINK WE JUMPED ONE ON THE FINDINGS.
SO, UM, THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED DOES MAINTAIN INTERNAL CONSISTENCY WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES, AND STRATEGIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN WILL NOT CREATE INCONSISTENCIES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, ALSO KNOWN AS CHAPTER 26 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST, HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE, OR WELFARE FOR THE CITY.
THE AMENDMENTS CONSIST SOLELY OF TAX AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WOULD NOT DIRECTLY RESULT IN ANY PHYSICAL CHANGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, THE TAX AMENDMENTS ARE ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN POLICIES, P 2.1, WHICH IS TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THE CITY'S CURRENT TAX BASE, UH, POLICY P 2.6, WHICH IS TO CREATE A DIVERSE HOUSING, UM, OPTION AND POLICY P 3.3, WHICH, UM, STATES NEW GROWTH WILL COMPETE, ENHANCE, AND REINFORCE THE FORM AND CHARACTER OF THE UNIQUE WEST COVINA NEIGHBORHOODS DISTRICT AND CORRIDORS.
UM, THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS EXEMPT FROM CQA PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 5 0 6 1 B THREE BECAUSE IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE SEEN WITH CERTAINTY, WITH CERTAINTY THAT THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY THAT THE ORDINANCE MAY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
THE ORDINANCE CONSISTS SOLELY OF TEXT AMENDMENTS OF THE, TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND DOES NOT AUTHORIZE OR APPROVE ANY SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
SLIDE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCT A DUALLY NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO SIX DASH OH ONE, ADOPT THE C EQUA EXEMPTION AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO SIX DASH 6 180 1, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 6 1.
UH, THIS COMPLETES STAFF'S REPORT AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SO, UH, I GUESS WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AM I ON THE WRONG PAGE? NO.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT? NO, NO APPLICANT? NO.
NO APPLICANT FOR DISCUSSION? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BECAUSE IT SAYS ON HERE
WE ALREADY HAVE, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A FEW MORE AMENDMENTS IN THAT S TRICKS ON ME HERE,
SO THESE ARE ALL, UM, THESE ARE AMENDMENTS BEING BROUGHT ON THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO TIGHTEN UP THE, THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF A FEW THAT'LL COME.
YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER ONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, AN UPDATE TO THE A DU ORDINANCE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HCD HAS TOLD US WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE REQUIREMENT, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN LINE WITH THEM.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT A DRAFT THAT THEY NEED A REVIEW.
GIVE US, UH, THE, UH, THE GREEN LIGHT AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE, ALONG WITH THE, UH, COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, LAND USE TABLE, UM, UH, CLEANUPS? NO.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I GUESS
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MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE AMENDMENTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR TRANSITIONS.UM, TAKING HOTELS AND, UM, CONVERTING IT, TRANSITION INTO THE, HOW DO YOU WORD IT?
WELL, 'CAUSE THE LAST TIME IT WAS A, A CO A YEAR OR SO AGO, THERE WAS A TRANSITIONAL THAT, I MEAN, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE APP.
IT WASN'T JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE CAME ACROSS THAT, UM, IN, IN LOOKING AT THE TABLE, WE CAME ACROSS HOTEL CONVERSIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE CONVERTED TO ANYTHING, ANY KIND OF CONVERSIONS WAS NOT ADDRESSED AT ALL.
SO WE HAD LIKE CONDO CONVERSIONS IN THERE.
HOTEL CONVERSIONS WASN'T MENTIONED.
IT COULD BE HOTEL CONVERSIONS FROM HOTEL TO LIKE SMALL OFFICE OR, YOU KNOW, OFFICE COLLECTIVE.
UH, BUT IT JUST WASN'T ADDRESSED BY THE TABLE AT ALL.
SO THIS ONE IS JUST FOR PARTICULAR HOTEL, AND WILL IT COME TO THE PLANNING CONVENTION OR CITY COUNCILS WHENEVER THERE'S A CONVERSION? OR IS THIS A STEP LEVEL DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT CONVERSION IS TOO? OH, YOU WERE GONNA SAY, YEAH, I MEAN, IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THE PROJECT WAS AND WHAT THE CONVERSION IS TOO.
IT'S JUST, IT WAS JUST A USE THAT WASN'T EVEN IN THE TABLE AT ALL.
IS IT A USE THAT THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO ALLOW UNDER A CUP OR, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT CAN, MY QUESTION IS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY STATE LAWS.
SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING HOTEL CONVERSIONS OR MOTEL CONVERSIONS.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S, WAIT, SO THE STATE LAW DOES NOT ADDRESS IT.
WHY ARE WE ADDRESSING IT?
SO EVERY TIME THEY HAVE A CONVERSION, IF THEY FIT A CERTAIN CRITERIA, DOES THAT THE COMMUNITY HAVE A SAY IN THAT CONVERSIONS OR NO, NOT IF WE ALREADY PRE-APPROVE IT, I THINK.
WELL, RIGHT NOW, UM, THE CONVERSIONS WOULD, WOULD BE ALLOWED ONLY IN AN RMU.
AND AGAIN, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE CONVERTING IT TO.
SO, UM, THIS IN ESSENCE IS SAYING CONVERSIONS AND MMUS AND SMUS WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO RETAIN OUR, THE HOTEL USE, UM, AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
AND, AND HOTELS ARE SPECIAL BECAUSE THEY GENERATE TOT MM-HMM
WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT REVENUE RESOURCE TO, UH, FOR THE CITY TO PRESERVE.
BUT CURRENTLY YOU'RE SAYING IN OUR CODE IS NOT ALLOWED FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING USE? WE DO ALLOW THAT.
WE DO ALLOW IT, WE DO ALLOW THAT TRANSITION.
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS ALLOWED IN ZONES THAT ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL.
SO IF IT'S ALLOWED IT, THEN WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS CITYWIDE? IT WASN'T IN THE TABLE.
SO WE NEED TO PUT IT ON THE TABLE.
AND IT WAS ALLOWED ALREADY, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE TABLE.
UM, IT'S A VERY TINY, TINY TABLE.
UM, SO WITH REGARD TO THE, EXCUSE ME, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE APPLICATION ASPECT OF THINGS, I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
IS, IS THIS AN OVER THE COUNTER APPLICATION? IS THIS LIKE A, AN A UP SCENARIO OR? SO THE A UP NO LONGER EXISTS THAT'S BEEN REPLACED WITH THE ADMIN PERMIT.
WHAT I MEAN IS, IS THIS, IS THIS AN OVER THE COUNTER ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT THAT'S, THAT'S DONE VIA APPLICATION? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN, THAT, THAT WE CAN PLACE UNDER THE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PURVIEW? NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSITIONAL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
THOSE ARE, THEY'RE NOT DISCRETIONARY PERMITS.
SO WE'RE, SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE, WOULD THEY EXIST? IF WE DIDN'T HAVE, WHAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE AN APPLICATION, WOULD THEY EXIST? THEY, THEY W THEY CAN EXIST
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WITHOUT THE APPLICATION.THE APPLICATION IS ENABLING THE CITY TO CREATE A, A, A LIST OF CRITERIA, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS PER SE, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO ABIDE BY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, AN ANNUAL AUDIT, UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS.
UM, BUT BASED ON STATE LAW, UM, WITHOUT THE, WITH OR WITHOUT THE APPLICATION, THEY COULD EXIST.
SO IF WE APPROVE IT, IT DOESN'T COME TO US ANYMORE.
OH, REGARDLESS IF WE SAY YES OR NO.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH, AGAIN, A, A, A SET OF CRITERIA TO HOLD IF, IF A USE DOES COME IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A, A LIST OF CRITERIA THAT THEY SHOULD ABIDE BY.
AND WE WANT TO PUT THIS OUT THERE.
SO IF ANYONE DOES BRING A PROJECT TO US, THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE BEING REQUIRED AS PART OF, UM, THE APPLICATION.
SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT, IS, WILL THIS BE, EVEN THOUGH WITH THIS USE, WILL IT BE A CONDITIONAL USE OR IT'S A USE BY RIGHTS FOR THE TRANSITIONAL HOMES WITH THIS CODE? WITH THIS AMENDMENT? THIS AMENDMENT DOESN'T CHANGE THE, THE, THE USE BY RIGHT.
IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES FOR TRANSITIONAL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
SO IT'S STILL A CONDITIONAL USE.
IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE, IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE.
NO TRANSITIONAL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS NOT A CONDITIONAL USE.
WE HAVE TO MEET THE CRITERIA, BUT THEY DON'T GET TO BE DENIED.
BUT THAT CRITERIA DOESN'T, BUT THE CRITERIA DOESN'T EXIST YET.
SO THIS AMENDMENT, UM, WILL CREATE THAT CRITERIA.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, IT'S ADDING, IT'S ADDING TO THE TRANSITIONAL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SECTION, UM, SUBSECTIONS E THROUGH, UM, JAY, I BELIEVE.
AND THOSE SUBSECTIONS IS, IT INCLUDES A LIST OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED AND THE CREATION OF A APPLICATION FOR, UM, ANY INTERESTED PARTIES.
AND THROUGH THAT APPLICATION, WHICH, UM, WILL BE ABLE TO BE AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME BASED ON THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME.
UM, WILL, WILL ASK FOR CERTAIN, UM, DOCUMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE USES ARE, ARE VALID.
THEY'RE ON THE UP AND UP THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THEY HAVE SITE CONTROL, FULL SITE CONTROL, UM, FOR, FOR ANY APPLICANTS IN THE FUTURE.
SO BASICALLY IT'S, YOU ALREADY HAVE IT, THERE'S JUST NO CRITERIA.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY THAT IN THE BEGINNING? OH,
LET'S SAY WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF 10 TO APPROXIMATELY NINE, I BELIEVE.
SO NINE, NINE OF 'EM, IF THEY ALL WANT TO DO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, IF CAN THEY COME TO THE CITY, APPLY FOR IT, AND THEN IF EVERYTHING FIT, THEN THEY WOULD SAY, OKAY, HOTEL CONVERGENCE ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CODE IS TRYING TO ADDRESS.
UM, BUT IF SOMEBODY CAME IN, LET'S SAY IT WASN'T A HOTEL AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD, UH, TRANSITION SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND A SITE THAT WAS ZONED RESIDENTIAL, THEY COULD MM-HMM
UM, AND THIS CRITERIA HASN'T BEEN ESTABLISHED, SO THERE REALLY WOULDN'T BE MUCH FOR US TO HOLD THEM UP TO.
SO THIS CRITERIA WILL NOW, OKAY.
SO I GUESS, UM, I LIKE TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES IT'S DOING.
SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, UM, FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND REGARDING HOTEL IN PARTICULAR, LIKE COMPARABLY IN THIS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING REGARDING TRANSITIONAL? I DID, I DID, UM, DO AN ANALYSIS OF SOME OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES.
A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES, UM, DON'T SAY MUCH ON SUPPORTIVE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
SOME CITIES DO HAVE THESE TYPES OF CRITERIA.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UM, I THINK, UH, COMPTON WAS ONE CITY, LARADO WAS ANOTHER CITY.
WE TRY TO UTILIZE A LOT OF THOSE, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY HAD IN CREATING THIS LIST.
UM, AND SOME CITIES, UH, DON'T SAY MUCH ABOUT IT.
AND SO, UH, TRANSITION SUPPORTIVE HOUSING USE CAN COME IN AND THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE IN PLACE.
THEN THEY'RE IN ESSENCE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT, WHICH THEY ARE HERE AS WELL.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST CREATING STANDARDS THAT WE
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WANT THEM TO COMPLY WITH, UM, PRIOR TO COMING IN, WHY CAN'T WE JUST CHANGE THEM TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PERIOD? WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BACKWARDS, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BY STATE LAW.I, I, I, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE, UM, MAYBE MY QUESTIONING KIND OF MUDDIED THE WATERS, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF APPLES AND ORANGES ONE, UH, SO, SO THE, THE APPLICATION, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT DEALS SOLELY WITH RESIDENTIAL, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONING APPLICATIONS, THE MOTEL AND HOTEL CONVERSION ASPECT, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS, THE CUP PROCESS? CORRECT.
UM, CURRENTLY AS, AS PART OF THIS REFORM, YEAH.
IT NOT NECESSARILY, UH, HOTEL MULTI CONVERSIONS RIGHT NOW, UM, AREN'T REALLY CALLED OUT IN THE LAND USE TABLE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU TODAY SO THAT WE CAN, UM, GET A LITTLE CONTROL OVER THAT AND TRY TO LIMIT IT TO THE RMU ZONES.
UM, BUT, UH, TRANSITION SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, IF IT'S IN AN AREA ZONE FOR RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S VERY LIMITED CONTROL.
SO, SORRY, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS.
SO THE, THE HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSIONS ASPECT OF THINGS I, I UNDERSTOOD TO BE SORT OF PART OF A, PART OF A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SECTION.
RIGHT? AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHANGE A HOTEL OR MOTEL TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN A HOTEL OR MOTEL.
UM, AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO, THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO WITH SUP, UH, WHAT IS IT SUPPORTIVE OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PERMITS LIKE THIS.
IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND APART.
MY QUESTION IS, BY ADDING THIS TO THE TABLE, DOES THIS MAKE IT PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IF THERE IS A CONVERSION, OR ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AS A MATTER OF, RIGHT, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, TURNING A MOTEL OR A HOTEL INTO, I DON'T KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WHERE, WHERE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING CONCEIVABLY THAT WOULD BE, UH, STATE LAW WOULD SUPERSEDE WHAT WE, WHATEVER WE SAY ON THAT ISSUE.
IS THAT, IS, IS IT BASICALLY WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE CONTROL AROUND THE THINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE CONTROL AROUND.
IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT A GOOD WAY OF EXPLAINING IT? YES.
BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, IT, IT SAID WEST CARINA, UH, MUNICIPAL CODES TO ESTABLISH OBJECTIVE AND REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO JUST SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, BUT THIS AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THERE'S, THERE'S THREE PARTS TO THE AMENDMENT.
THERE'S THE TRANSITIONAL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THERE'S THE CONVERSION OF HOTEL MOTELS, AND THEN THERE'S THE APPLICATION DEADLINES.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ADDRESSING THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS WITHIN THE ZONING CODE.
THIS IS, I I WOULD SAY THE BEST WAY TO, TO EXPLAIN THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS SORT OF A GRAB BAG AMENDMENT WHERE WE SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO WHOLESALE KIND OF GIVE AN OMNIBUS CORRECTION OR CHANGE MM-HMM
FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT.
AND AS I MENTIONED, YOU, YOU WILL SEE ANOTHER ONE IN PROBABLY THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS, UH, DEALING WITH ADUS.
AND AT THAT POINT WE'LL ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER SECTIONS THAT WE WANT TO CLEAN UP.
WE DON'T WANT TO COME WITH THESE CORRECTIONS, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY MONTH OR EVERY TWO MONTHS.
WE WANNA TRY TO SPREAD 'EM OUT, UM, AND TRY TO GET AS MANY AS WE CAN PER, PER CODE AMENDMENT, CLEAN UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN EACH TIME WE BRING IT TO YOU.
ARE, ARE WE DONE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT? I BELIEVE SO, RIGHT? I, I THINK WE MOVED TO DISCUSSION.
UM, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY GRASPING THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT, AND I LIKE TO SEE, OR AT LEAST CONTINUE OR, OR, OR DO SOME RESEARCH ON WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING FOR THIS PARTICULAR,
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UM, CITYWIDE, YOU KNOW, THE CODE AMENDMENTS.I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BEFORE, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY, UH, THIS, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE ALSO A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO A LIST OF THE CRITERIA, WELL, MAYBE A LIST OF THE CRITERIA THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
MY, MY QUESTION IS, THE RECOMMENDATION IS CONDUCTING A DUALLY NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THIS.
IS THAT AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL OR IS THAT IT'S HERE.
SO IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE, IF WE WERE CONTINUE.
WELL, I THINK I, I THINK IF WE'RE, SO BASICALLY THIS WOULD BE FIRST READING, RIGHT? FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT? NO, YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD THEN MOVE TO, TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND AT CITY COUNCIL THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD, UH, TAKE THE SAME REPORT, YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, UM, AND THEN HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND READING.
BUT BECAUSE I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE AMENDMENT, I LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS.
IF, IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS AND PERHAPS LOOK AT OR DO SOME RESEARCH AND LOOK AT, SEE WHAT OTHER SERIES ARE DOING REGARDING THE, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING IS IT'S ALREADY IN EFFECT, BUT THERE'S NO CRITERIA YET.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE COMING UP WITH CRITERIA AND WE ARE MAKING, WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF THIS FITS EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED OR WANTS FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, THEN YES, WE JUST MOVE IT ONTO CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT BECAUSE YOU WANT, YOU WANNA DECIDE WHAT THE CRITERIA IS.
OR LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING TO UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT ARE WE APPROVING OR A MEANINGFUL THE CITY.
IT'S STILL GONNA GO TO CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER REGARDLESS.
BUT WITH A, WITH THE, WITH THE WORDING THAT WE WANTED FOR THE CODE.
SO OTHER CITIES WERE RESEARCHED IN DOING THIS.
AND AS I MENTIONED, SOME OF THE CITIES, EVERY CITY HAS TO ALLOW THIS BY, WELL, AGAIN, THERE'S THREE PORTIONS TO THIS.
THE, IS YOUR CONCERN, THE TRANSITIONAL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THE CONVERSION OR THE DEADLINE ON APPLICATIONS? UM, THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THE CONVERSION.
I LIKE TO UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO WITH THE HOTEL, MOTEL, UM, THAT PARTICULAR AND SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY TO GET THE PUBLICS TO MORE TIME AND MYSELF MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THIS CODE AMENDMENT MM-HMM
THAT IT ULTIMATELY IT'S AFFECTING THE, UH, IT'S AFFECTING CITYWIDE.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE NINE HOTEL MOTEL, UH, POTENTIALLY IF THERE ARE LOTS, THEY CAN BUILD MORE HOTEL MOTEL.
AND THAT ALSO APPLIES TO THE NEW ONE AS WELL, CORRECT? CORRECT.
I'LL, I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND THAT, UH, CITY COUNCIL CONDUCT A DULY NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 26 DASH OH ONE.
ADOPT THE CQA EXEMPTION AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 6 1 8, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 26 DASH OH ONE WITH THE AMENDMENT, UM, TO THE RESOLUTION AS IT PERTAINS TO GIMME ONE SECOND IN EXHIBIT A, UM, UNDER SECTION SEVEN, INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT INDICATES THAT TO THE, UH, GREATEST EXTENT THAT THE LAW SO PROVIDES THAT ANY HOTEL AND MOTEL CONVERSIONS WITHIN THE REGIONAL MIXED USE, UH, ZONES SHALL BE ALLOWED ONLY BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
HE CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.
BUT I ALS I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTIONS TO CONTINUE THIS AND HAVE THE, UM, CONDUCT THE STUDY HERE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL.
BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT I ASKED BEFORE.
SO WHAT HE SAID IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.
REGARDING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CORRECT? NO, HE'S, HE, HE PUT IT IN ANOTHER WAY.
HE'S JUST MOVING THIS BODY, THIS, UM, CONDUCTING THE STUDY HERE TO CITY COUNCIL.
HAVE THEM DOING THE, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, BUT INSTEAD OF MAKING IT, IT, IS IT RMU ZONE, THAT WAY WE'D HAVE PROHIBITED.
YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE CUP INSTEAD OF PROHIBITED.
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IT IS, IT IS ALLOWED, BUT OH, YOU WANNA CHANGE IT TO CUP? YES.ALLOWED SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
YOU WOULD LIKE THAT TABLE CHANGED TO A CUP? CORRECT.
BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD COME TO US AND THEN, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION.
NEITHER MOTION'S BEEN SECONDED YET.
SO WHY? AND WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION TO CONTINUE.
I SECOND MOTION COMMISSIONER LEWIS TO CHANGE, TO CHANGE IT TO THE CUP BECAUSE THEN IT COMES TO FORCE THEN TO CHANGE, TO CHANGE THE TABLE.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW HERE, X MEANS ALLOWED, SO THE X WOULD CHANGE TO A CUP FOR HOTEL EMOTIVE CONVERSIONS.
SO THAT WOULD IN EFFECT BRING IT BACK TO YOU GUYS.
NOW AGAIN, THAT'S A HOTEL MULTI CONVERSION REALLY TO ANYTHING.
RIGHT? AS, AS, UM, COUNSEL SAID IT COULD BE TO OFFICES, IT COULD BE TO WHATEVER CONDOS, APARTMENTS, RIGHT? YEAH.
ANY QUESTION? AND AGAIN, IT IS OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO THE SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, WHICH I, I, I'M KEENLY AWARE OF TO THE EXTENT THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS ABROGATED, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT ABROGATED, BUT TAKEN AWAY OUR ABILITY TO HAVE ANY LOCAL CONTROL.
UH, THE MOTION TO CONTINUE HAS DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
THIS WILL BE FINAL AS WRITTEN REQUEST FOR AN APPEAL AS PRESENTED IN COUNCIL, BUT I THINK THAT'S WRONG TOO.
SO, UM,
[4. Fiscal Year 2026-27 Capital Improvement Program Finding of Conformance with the General Plan. ]
WE HAVE, UH, ONE NON-HEARING ITEM, FISCAL YEAR 26 27, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FINDING OF CONFORMANCE WITH GENERAL PLANT ART WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT PLEASE.UH, THE STAFF REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED BY, UM, OUR CIP PROJECT MANAGER, UH, ROBERTO.
GOOD EVENING COMM COMMISSIONERS TODAY BRINGING, UH, BEFORE YOU THE 2026 2027 CAPITAL PROGRAM.
UM, SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.
SO, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 65 4 0 1 REQUIRES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ANNUALLY REVIEW THE LISTS OF PROPOSED PROJECTS AT THE CITY, CIP AND THE CITY CIP, AND VERIFY THEIR CONFORMANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
SUBSEQUENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION FOR THE CI'S GENERAL PLAN PERFORMANCE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL THEN ADOPT THE PROPOSED CIP BUDGET.
UM, SO THE GOAL OF CIP ARE THE GOAL OF ALL CIPS ARE TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE COMMUNITY, TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC SYSTEMS WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, 27, THERE ARE 53 EXISTING CARRYOVER CIP PROJECTS THAT WERE DETERMINED TO BE CON CONFORMANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
UM, SO IN DECEMBER, I, I BROUGHT THIS BEFORE YOU GUYS.
LET'S, UM, THE CIP REPRESENTS THE CITY'S FUNDING PRIORITIES FOR COMPLETING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ROLE IS TO MAKE A FINDING THAT THE CIP FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 27 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN, NOT TO CONSIDER THE MERITS OF EACH CIP PROJECT.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE PROPOSED CIP PROGRAM, FINDING IT CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL.
SO THAT'S IT FOR ME, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, WHAT IS, UH, I GUESS ITEM C 21 0 2 3 VIDEO DETECTION, CITYWIDE VIDEO DETECTION, CITYWIDE ENHANCED CITY IMAGE AND EFFECTIVENESS.
I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER LEWIS.
WHAT, UH, PROJECT NUMBER IS THAT? IT IS C 2 1 0 2 3 0 2 3.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN FOR YEARS.
THE CITY'S TRYING TO CREATE SOME PUT VIDEO FOOTAGE AROUND THE CITY IN OUR PARK SYSTEM JUST TO ENHANCE SAFETY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PD WOULD OVERSEE, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY IS GENERALLY MORE SAFE.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE FLOCK SYSTEM? NO, THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND THEN I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, THE C 2 5 0 1 5, UH, EH, IT'S KIND OF A PET PEEVE OF MINE.
UH, THE STREET SWEEPING SIGNS AND EQUIPMENT, UM, THAT'S ON PAGE FIVE OF SIX.
UM, WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? SO I'M ASSUMING THIS IS THE STREET SWEEPING PROJECT.
SO IT'S PHASE TWO OF OUR STREET SWEEPING.
SO WITH PHASE ONE, THIS PROJECT
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WAS PUT OUT VERY QUICKLY.WITH THAT THERE WAS SOME OVERSIGHT.
UM, SO WITH PHASE TWO, WE ARE GONNA CLEAN THAT UP.
WE'RE GONNA SPEND MORE TIME CREATING THE SCOPE OF WORK.
SO THAT MEANS RECTIFYING OR FIXING CERTAIN SIGNS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THAT'S REPOSITIONING, THAT'S REMOVING, I KNOW WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT SIGNS THAT WERE BEING POSTED ON THE WOODEN POSTS, EDISON POSTS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO DO.
THERE WAS TWO OF US MANAGING THIS PROJECT WITH OVER 5,000 SIGNS.
IT, IT WAS HARD TO PINPOINT EVERY SINGLE SIGN.
SO WITH PHASE TWO, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, IS SPENDING MORE TIME FINDING MISTAKES.
WE LINK, WE PARTNERED WITH A PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, THAT WAY WE KNOW, HEY, WHAT SIGNS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO THAT'S WHAT PHASE TWO CONSISTS OF.
SO WE'RE NOT REPLACING SIGNS, UM, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CURRENT ROLLOUT.
IT'S JUST MODIFYING CERTAIN SIGNS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND NEED TO BE CORRECTED.
SO WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANY SIGNS? NO, WE'RE, OH, THEN THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.
I, I, WE'RE NOT SAY THAT THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING FOR THE CITY'S IMAGE.
IT LOOKS LIKE GARBAGE AND WE NEED TO CORRECT IT.
WITH THAT, I, I KNOW WE HAD CONCERNS AND SO WE FOLLOWED CALTRAN STANDARDS, WE FOLLOWED THE CITY OF PALMDALE STANDARDS.
'CAUSE CURRENTLY THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY STANDARDS AS FAR AS PLACEMENT OF SIGNS.
SO WE DID FOLLOW THOSE STANDARDS.
UM, AND I, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I CAN'T, YEAH.
COME TALK TO ME AFTER THE MEETING.
I'LL TELL YOU THE VEHICLE CODE STANDARD AND HOW YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THE KIND OF INSANITY THAT WAS DONE, BUT NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, I WILL GIVE YOU THE EXACT VEHICLE CODE ON THE ISSUE.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE CAN RECTIFY THE MESS, UH, THAT WAS CREATED BY IRRESPONSIBLE CONTRACTING AND LACK OF OVERSIGHT ON THIS.
IT'S A BLIGHT, IT'S DISGUSTING.
MAYBE IF YOU SPEAK WITH THEM AND WHEN THEY COME AROUND THE SECOND TIMES TO FIX IT, MAYBE THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF.
COMMISSIONER LEWIS? YEAH, I, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE PLAN ON DOING.
WE'RE NOT GOING, WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD THE SAME CONTRACTOR.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA GO OUT TO BID.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE HOPEFULLY A NEW CONTRACTOR.
UM, AS MENTIONED, WE ARE SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME PUTTING EFFORT MAKING, PERFECTING THIS PHASE TWO OF PROJECT.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO THAT BY NOT REMOVING SIGNS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S POSSIBLE.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, I, I WILL MOVE TO FIND THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FINDING OF CON OR I'LL MOVE THAT.
THE SUBJECT FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 27 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROGRAM IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS NUMBER, UH, C 2 5 0 1 15 AND C 2 6 0 1, 12 0 1 5 AND OH ONE TWO.
I DON'T SEE DRAINAGE IN HERE AS KARINA DRAINAGE.
SO THEY'RE NOT PLANNING TO DO ANY DRAINAGE WORK IF IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST.
SO WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TRASH CAPTURE DEVICE, UM, THAT IS FOR STORM WATER AS FAR AS 20, UH, WHICH CODE, WHICH SECTION WOULD THAT BUDGETED FOR? ONE SECOND.
SO ON THIS SHEET HERE, IT'S PAGE TWO ON THE SECOND SHEET, AND IT IS PAGE TWO, BACK AND, UH, PAGE TWO.
AND IF YOU GO DOWN MAYBE HALFWAY, THERE'S THE CATCH BASIN CLEANING.
SO THAT IS SOME, THAT'S TO ADDRESS STORM WATER IS C 2 2 2 2 0 0 6.
SO THAT'S A STORM, THAT'S A STORM WATER PROJECT THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE USING MEASURE W FUNDS.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS DRAINAGE ISSUES, WE ARE, WE DO HAVE RES UH, SOME RE STREET REHAB PROJECTS THAT WILL ADDRESS, UM, STORM RUNOFF WATER IS, IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, COMMISSIONER HANG THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT'S CATCH BASIN? IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR LOCATION? IT'S CITYWIDE.
SO IT'S CITYWIDE WITHIN OUR CITY.
I FORGET HOW MANY WE HAVE THAT ARE, THAT BELONG TO THE COUNTY THAT WE WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE ADDRESSING THOSE BECAUSE THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR AREA OFF ON VIRGINIA LANE, THE CATCH BASIN WITH THE, I DON'T, I MEAN, IT MAY NOT BE IN HERE.
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THERE'S A BIG METAL PIPE THAT'S CRUMBLING ON THE STREET, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT I, I AM NOT AWARE OF, BUT I CAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN MAYBE TOMORROW GO OUT THERE AND SEE AND IN ONE OF OUR PROJECTS, MAYBE INCORPORATE OKAY.LOOKING IT OVER OR ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE.
HOW, HOW DOES THIS LIST GET TO BE? I MEAN, I GUESS YOU GOT CREATED IT.
SO HONESTLY, HONESTLY, CIP IT'S A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, NEIL CAN BRING SOMETHING UP TO ME AND IF IT'S CIP RELATED, WE DISCUSS IT, WE PLAN IT, AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT ON THE LIST.
THAT'S HOW THESE PROJECTS COME ABOUT.
THEY'RE EITHER, THEY COME FROM THE RESIDENTS OR INTERNAL STAFF.
THE REMOVING COMMUNICATION TOWERS TO ENHANCE THE CITY IMAGE, I THINK THAT'S A CELL TOWER, RIGHT? THAT WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION CELL TOWERS, THAT TOWERS THE CELL TOWER THAT WE'VE BEEN IN.
WHAT, WHERE'S THAT ON HERE? HERE? UH, THAT WAS C 2 2 0 1 8 C TWO TWO.
SO I KNOW THAT'S CURRENTLY IN, IN PLANNING RIGHT NOW.
UM, THAT ONE I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU.
I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.
I KNOW IT'S IN DISCUSSION WITH, WITH MATT, WITH CITY MANAGER STAFF, BUT THERE'S NO BUDGET THERE.
THAT MEANS THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
THIS THERE'S NO BUDGET, RIGHT? YEAH.
SOME OF THESE WE DON'T HAVE BUDGET YET.
THEY'RE JUST IN COMMUNICATION.
SO THEY'RE, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T WENT INTO THE PLANNING PHASE RIGHT NOW IT'S IN DISCUSSION TO SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN SELL IT FOR THINGS OF THAT SORT AND ARE, SO THOSE STEPS NEED TO BE TAKEN BEFORE IT BECOMES A PROJECT.
SO I SEE THAT THERE'S, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL STREET REHAB, UH, SO ARE WE GONNA SEE, UM, A LOT CLEANER STREETS AND MAYBE THE, THE LAWN WILL BE WATERED AT THE COURTHOUSE?
ARE WE, ARE WE IN A DROUGHT
SO WITH THE RESIDENTIAL STREET REHAB, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO ANNUALLY.
SO IT'S DONE EVERY YEAR AND WE ADDRESS, UM, DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY EACH YEAR.
SO IT'S JUST, UM, DEPENDING ON THE, THE STREET WE EITHER GRINDING GAP, SO IT'S A COMPLETE GUT AND UM, OR WE DO SOMETHING, UM, JUST TO ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THE STREET.
SOMETIMES THAT INCLUDES, AND THAT'S JUST ONCE A YEAR? I MEAN, WOULD IT BE, IT'S ONCE A YEAR BECAUSE THE STREETS, THE LONGEVITY OF THE STREETS AFTER, UM, REFURBISHING THEM OR ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN TO 14 YEARS.
SO YOU'RE TALKING LIKE ABOUT POTHOLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH.
SO RESIDENT, IF THEY HAVE A REALLY BAD STREET OR REALLY BAD THINGS THAT THEY NEEDS TO BE FIXED, THEY CAN CALL IN AND GET TO BE IN THIS LIST.
THIS ONE WITH A, UM, THIS, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY, IT'S A TRAFFIC SAFETY, UH, UH, PROJECT THAT WE HAVE ALSO YEARLY WHERE RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO CALL IN, THEY'RE ABLE TO SEND EMAIL, THEY'RE ABLE TO LET US, UM, LET US KNOW VIA GO GOV, UM, THEIR COMPLAINTS, THE WANTS, NEEDS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND WE TRY TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR PROJECTS.
WHAT ABOUT THE OFF RAMP ON AZUSA GOING WESTBOUND, THAT IS THE DIRTIEST OFF RAMP.
DOES IT EVER GET CLEANED? SO THAT IS CALTRANS JURISDICTION.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN, I THINK WE HAD A MEETING ON IT TODAY, RIGHT NOW REGARDING YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH, WE, WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH CALTRANS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE, THAT IS A BIG ISSUE AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
CA I THINK THAT IS TONY WOO'S CONCERN AND IT, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO FIX THAT ASAP WITH G TRENDS.
WELL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT.
I DUNNO WHY WE JUST DON'T DO IT.
WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO ANYWAY? SOMEBODY OVER THERE NEEDS A GOOD TALKING TOO.
YEAH, THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.
ARE THEY GETTING PAID FOR THAT? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
UH, THEY DO HAVE A SERVICE REQUEST PORTAL, UM, SIMILAR TO OUR PORTAL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY RECOMMENDED RESIDENTS CAN DO, UM, THROUGH CALTRANS.
IT'S A SERVICE REQUEST PORTAL THROUGH
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CALTRANS AND WE CAN DEFINITELY SHARE THAT, UH, LINKED WITH YOU GUYS.I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY SHOULD BE CALLING THEM ON, NOT RESIDENTS.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO ADDRESS AS THEY SEE IT.
SO IF THE MORE RESIDENT KEEP NAGGING THEM ABOUT IT, THE MORE POSSIBLY THEY ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
SO THAT SERVICE REQUEST PORTAL IS INTENDED FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO ANYTIME THEY HAVE PICTURES DESCRIPTION, CAN WE GET THAT DESCRIPTION PORTAL ON THE, ON THE WEBSITE TO ABSOLUTELY.
WE WILL WORK ON ADDING THAT TO OUR WEBSITE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CLICK ON THAT LINK AND MAKE THEIR NECESSARY, UM, QUERIES TO RAS.
IS THAT IT? ARE WE MOTIONING, DO WE ALREADY MOTION? HAVE A MOTION? DID WE HAVE A SECOND? THE MOTION? CAN CAN WHAT'S THE MO? OH, SO THE, THE, THE MOTION WAS COMMISSIONER LEWIS, CORRECT ME IF I'M, I'M WRONG.
THE MOTION WAS TO, UH, ACCEPT THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION AS BEING IN CONFORMITY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A HANDFUL OF ITEMS DEALING WITH STREET SWEEPING SIGNAGE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER C 2 5 0 1 15 AND C 2 6 0 1 2.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WITH THE OH ONE TWO AND OH ONE 15? THEY WANT TO ADD MORE BLIGHT.
YOU WANNA ADD WHAT THEY WANT TO ADD MORE BLIGHT? COMMISSIONER HANG.
I'M AGAINST THAT AND THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I'M FINDING THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION IS, IS THE, IS THERE A CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN? IT'S COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT.
WELL, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT BUDGET IT AND IT, IF, IF WE SEE THAT IT'S, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT THEY'RE GONNA ADD MORE LIGHT TO THE STREET.
I DON'T SEE HOW HOW PLACING A WHOLE BUNCH OF GRATUITOUS SIGNAGE ADDS TO THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT, BUT ARE, ARE WE ADDING MORE SIGN OR ARE WE GOING BACK TO FIX SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT IS I THOUGHT IT WAS DONE ALREADY.
WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY MORE SIGNS.
IF ANYTHING, WE'RE GONNA TAKE AWAY SOME SIGNS THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID LOT.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT ADDING, WE'RE NOT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS FIX THE SIGNS THAT NEED TO BE, THAT, THAT NEED ATTENTION.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE GO IN, I KNOW SOME POSTS OR SOME SIGNS WERE PLACED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF HOMES.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS REPOSITION THAT WHERE IT'S NOW THE PROPERTY LINE, PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN BOTH HOMES.
SO IN THAT SENSE, WE ARE GONNA BE MODIFYING REVISING SIGNS, BUT WE'RE NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL.
AND FIX THE SIGNS DOES NOT MEAN REMOVE THE SIGNS YOU POSTED THOSE SIGNS IS JUST RIDICULOUS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A DEGREE TO POST THOSE SIGNS, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE A TREE THERE OR, OR SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, THEY POST 'EM RIGHT IN FRONT OF SOME OF THOSE HOUSES.
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE WITH THE CONTRACTOR IS ONE, THEY DIDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH, THEY WERE, SO THAT WAS A CHALLENGE ITSELF.
I I, I SPOKE TO THE CEO OF THE COMPANY.
I TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN.
SO WITH PHASE TWO, WE ARE SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME COMING UP WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK WHERE WE'RE, WE ARE TRYING TO, WE'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, A LOT OF RESIDENT COMPLAINTS AND TRYING TO ADDRESS IT THE BEST WE CAN WITH PHASE TWO.
SO MY FEELING IS THAT IF THERE IS A LITTLE BUDGETS TO NOT ADDING MORE SIGN OR, OR, OR WORK WITH THE EXISTING SIGNS THAT WE HAVE IS BETTER THAN REMOVING THEM AND NOT HAVING A BUDGETS TO MAKE SOME OF THE CORRECTIONS THAT'S ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.
UH, THAT'S JUST MY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND REPLANTED.
AT LEAST THERE IS A BUDGET FOR THAT.
I THEN I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO STATE THAT THOSE ITEMS NEED TO BE SPECIFIED THAT THEY ARE PERTAINING TO REMOVAL OF EXCESS SIGNAGE AND BLIGHT CAUSED BY SAID SIGNAGE OR RELOCATION REMOVAL OR RELOCATION.
I ALSO HAVE WITH AN EMPHASIS ADDED ON REMOVAL.
UH, WE, WE, WE ALREADY PAID FOR THAT LARK ALLEN HOUSE ON THE PARK, CAMERON PARK TO BE DEMOED AND IT'S ALREADY DEMOED AND ALREADY CLEANED UP THAT WHY ARE, ARE WE PAYING FOR IT AGAIN? I'M SORRY.
WHICH, WHAT PROJECT? THE HOUSE.
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HOUSE AT CAMERON PARK.IS THAT THE SAME HOUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? YEP.
SO WHY, WHY ARE WE DEMO PAYING, GOT A BUDGET FOR DEMO AGAIN? WHAT NUMBER IS THAT? YEAH, WHAT, WHAT PROJECT NUMBER 2 1 0 2 8 2 1 0 2 8.
IS THAT FOUNDATION? I THINK IT'S FOUNDATION.
I BELIEVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2 5 0 1 4.
IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? MARK ALLEN HOUSE? NO, IT'S 2 1 0 2 8 2 1 0 2 8.
ISN'T THAT WHAT I JUST SAID? YES.
I THINK IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN ROLLED OVER OVER THE YEARS AND UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS WITH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.
SHE GAVE ME THIS LIST BECAUSE CERTAIN PROJECTS ARE ROLLED OVER.
SO LET ME, LET ME LOOK INTO THAT AND I WILL, WHY YOU ADD IT? LET'S ADD ANOTHER ONE.
I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO GO WITH THAT.
TO INCLUDE COMMISSIONER HANGS.
SO ON THE FIRST PAGE, WHICH IS THE SECOND ITEM, C 1, 8 0 4, 0 AND C ONE.
C 1, 8 0 4 0, THE SAME NUMBER? MM-HMM.
NINE ITEMS, WHICH IS THE SIGNAL LIGHT OFF ON CAMERON BRANCA.
I THOUGHT IT WAS DONE, BUT WHY ARE WE BUDGETING MONEY FOR THAT? I I I'M NOT SURE.
IT MIGHT BE A ROLLOVER BECAUSE DO IT AGAIN.
DO BETTER HAVE HER
YEAH, LET ME, I THINK SO WE CURRENTLY HAD A, A SIP CYCLE 10 PROJECT AND I THINK WE EXCLUDED THIS INTERSECTION AND I THINK OUR TRAFFIC TEAM IS CURRENTLY LOOKING INTO THIS, THIS, UH, INTERSECTION.
THERE IS A TRAFFIC LIGHT, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO LIKE LEFT POCKET TURNS, THERE'S MODIFICATIONS THAT THEY TRAFFIC.
THAT'S WHY I I, AND I THINK THIS IS, IT, IT THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
WITH OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION, DO WE NEED TO REQUEST THE LAST LIST SO WE CAN COMPARE THEM AND SEE WHY ARE WE STILL PAYING OR DUPLICATING THINGS? OR IS THIS GONNA, I MEAN, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED HERE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THIS PROJECT HERE THAT HAS THE SAME PROJECT NUMBER TWICE.
IT'S DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE A, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RESIDENTIAL, THE ZOO, AVENUE STREET REHAB, IT'S ON HERE.
IT'S DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.
SO NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE DUPLICATING PROJECTS, IT'S MORE SO THERE'S MULTIPLE 'CAUSE OF FUNDING SOURCES OR THE PROJECT HAS BEEN ROLLED OVER FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.
THE FUNDING SOURCES WE'RE NEVER WORKED ON.
WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT STUFF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AND IT'S STILL ON HERE.
BUT AGAIN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IS DONE OR NOT DONE.
SINCE MY TIME HERE, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S TRAFFIC TEAM IS DISCUSSING.
I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE LEFT TURN POCKETS AND MET WARRANT FOR LEFT TURN.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THEY WERE LOOKING INTO.
I KNOW WE PAID QUITE A BIT FOR THAT LARK ALLEN HOUSE AND I LIKED THAT HOUSE.
I I KNOW IT'S ONE, IT WAS I'S DOWN THE STREET
I WAS LIKE, AND I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH WE HAD TO PAY FOR TO, TO DEMO THAT AND CLEAN UP.
SO I'M JUST CONCERNED WHY IT'S STILL ON THERE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL LOOK INTO.
I'LL, I'LL HAVE AN EMAIL SENT TO ART TOMORROW.
THAT WAY WE CAN GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE.
AND REMEMBER THE FOCUS HERE IS FOR GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY.
WELL, WE DIDN'T WANNA DUPLICATE.
I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER LEWIS AND I INCLUDED COMMISSIONER HANGS, UM, UH, TWO ITEMS I BELIEVE, WHICH IS THE, THE DUPLICATE DRAINAGE.
DRAINAGE, UH, IN VIRGINIA, I BELIEVE.
RIGHT? THE, AND THE TRAFFIC LIGHT ON WRONG.
THE, THE DUPLICATE ITEM CONCERN THAT YOU HAD ON, UH, UH, BARRANCA AND, UH, CAMERON, THE LIGHT
RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S C ZERO, UH, C 1 8 0 4 0.
AND I THINK THE OTHER ONE WAS C 2 1 2 0 8 SOUNDS RIGHT.
THAT'S A LARK ALLEN HOUSE THAT YOU WANTED TO UPDATE ON.
THE OTHER ONE IS C 2 2 0 0 6 C 2 2 0 0 6.
I GUESS I CAN TALK WITH YOU AFTER MR. THE CATCH BASIN.
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IS THERE A SECOND? OH, I'LL SECOND THAT.ROLL CALL COMMISSIONER ANG I'LL ROLL.
MOTION HAS PASSED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE FIVE ITEMS I HAVE LISTED HERE.
OKAY, SO ON TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS, MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OR OFFER COMMENTS ON? NO.
[COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT]
DIRECTOR'S REPORT.ARTURO, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS TO REPORT? YEAH, UM, I'VE GOT SOME, I, UM, SOME EVENTS COMING UP I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU.
UM, OR SOME CITY, CITY HAS SOME EVENTS COMING UP.
UH, ON MAY 2ND SATURDAY, UH, CITY WILL BE GIVING AWAY FREE COMPOST FROM EIGHT TO 12 AT WEST COVINA CITY YARD.
UH, SO BOURBON WATER WILL PRESENT A LANDSCAPING WORKSHOP ON SATURDAY, MAY 9TH, UH, FROM 9:00 AM TO 11:00 AM AT CORTES PARK COMMUNITY AND SENIOR CENTER, 2 5 0 1 EAST CORTES STREET.
UH, ON MONDAY, MAY 25TH FROM 10:00 AM TO 12:00 PM UH, THERE WILL BE A, UM, UH, MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION, UH, WITH A LUNCHEON AT THE WEST COVINA CIVIC CENTER.
1 4 4 4 WEST GARVEY AVENUE SOUTH.
AND ON SATURDAY, MAY 30TH, UM, THE CITY WILL HAVE ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BOBA FESTIVAL AND NIGHT MARKET FROM 4:00 PM TO 9:00 PM AT THE WEST COVINA CIVIC CENTER.
1 4 4 4 WEST GARVEY AVENUE SOUTH.
UM, ALSO I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THIS IS GONNA BE MARIA'S LAST, UH, MEETING WITH US.
SHE'S ACCEPTED A POSITION AT A DIFFERENT CITY.
WE UNFORTUNATELY ONLY HAD HER FOR A COUPLE OF, UH, MONTHS.
UM, I WISH IT WOULD'VE BEEN LONGER.
SHE'S, UH, BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO THE DEPARTMENT AND SHE'LL BE, UH, VERY MUCH MISSED.
UM, ALSO, UH, WE DIDN'T GET TO DO THIS LAST TIME, BUT I WANTED, UM, I WANTED TO GIVE, UH, COMMISSIONER RES A FEW MINUTES TO TELL US ABOUT HIMSELF.
I WANTED TO WELCOME HIM TO THE, UH, COMMISSION AND IF HE CAN MAYBE SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HI HIMSELF, HIS BACKGROUND, ANYTHING HE, HE'D, HE'D, UM, BE WILLING TO SHARE WITH US.
I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN WEST COVINA.
UM, FOR OVER 20 YEARS I'VE WORKED IN REAL ESTATE HELPING FAMILIES AND PROPERTY OWNERS MAKE DECISIONS THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT THEIR FINANCIAL FUTURE.
UH, THAT EXPERIENCE HAS GIVEN ME PRACTICAL, REAL WORLD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW PLANNING DECISIONS, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, AND INFRASTRUCTURE, SHAPE, PROPERTY VALUES, NEIGHBORHOODS, AND LONG-TERM DIRECTION OF OUR CITY.
UH, I BELIEVE IN WEST, I BELIEVE WEST COMMUNITY DESERVES LEADERSHIP THAT IS TRANSPARENT, ACCOUNTABLE, AND CONSISTENT.
DECISIONS SHOULD BE MADE OPENLY COMMUNICATED CLEARLY AND GROUNDED IN RESPECT FOR PEOPLE, IN RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK, AND INVEST HERE, MY APPROACH IS STRAIGHTFORWARD, DIRECT, BE DIRECT, BE FAIR, AND ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT STAND THE TEST OF TIME.
UM, IF I MAY, I, I, UM, WANTED TO MAYBE ADJOURN THE MEETING.
ARE ARE, ARE WE ADJOURNING NOW OR NO.
I, BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE, UM, DAVE, UH, DAVE STEWART WHEN POSSIBLE.
I WAS GONNA RECOGNIZE SOMEONE TOO.
SO RO IS THERE ANY CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS, REPORTS? UH, NONE.
SO HAVING NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
SO I'LL DO MINE FIRST AND YOU CAN DO YOURS.
SO I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING IN HONOR OF FRANCIS GRIFFITH, A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA, MOTHER OF A GOOD FRIEND, UM, ROSE CHADWICK, WHO OPENED HER EYES IN HEAVEN SUNDAY EVENING.
AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY REST IN PEACE.
UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN THIS EVENING, WE DO SO IN HONOR OF THE MEMORY OF DAVE STEWART, A DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANT AND VALUE VALUE MEMBER OF WEST COVINA COMMUNITY.
MR. STEWART GAVE GENEROUSLY OF HIS TIME AND TALENTS AND SERVICE TO OUR CITY, CONTRIBUTED CONTRIBUTING THOUGHTFUL LEADERSHIP AND CIVIC COMMITMENT ACROSS MULTIPLE ROLES.
HE SERVED AS PLANNING COMMISSIONER FROM 2011 TO 2013, HELPING GUIDE IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT SHAPED THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF WEST COA.
HE LATER CONTINUED HIS SERVICE AS A COMMUNITY AND SENIOR SERVICE COMMISSIONER IN 2016 AND 2017, AND AGAIN IN 2019, SUPPORTING PROGRAMS AND POLICIES THAT ENRICHED THE LIVES AND RESIDENTS ACROSS GENERATIONS.
HIS WILLINGNESS TO STEP FORWARD, TO ENGAGE AND TO SERVE REFLECTS THE VERY BEST OF THE, OF COMMUNITY SPIRIT ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, UM, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HIM, UH, FOR HIS SERVICE AND GRATITUDE AND HIS CONTRIBUTIONS.
DAVE WAS ONE OF A KIND AND, UH, TRULY A GENTLEMAN WHO ALWAYS CONTRIBUTED IMMENSELY
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TO THIS COMMUNITY.AND, UH, ALL I CAN SAY IS, UH, I'LL MISS HIM AND MY BEST TO, UH, MY BEST TO HIS FAMILY.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 10:45 PM.