* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. IT [00:00:01] IS 27TH. YEP. OKAY. WELL, NOTHING CHANGES WITH RESPECT TO THE GENERAL ORAL COMMUNICATION. GOOD EVENING. [CALL TO ORDER] UM, WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, JANUARY 27TH, 2026 IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. UM, WE'LL NOW TAKE A MOMENT FOR SILENT PRAYER OR MEDITATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER LEWIS. PLEASE FACE THE FLAG FOR THE PLEDGE. READY BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. TONIGHT [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM REGULAR MEETING ON DECEMBER 9TH, 2025. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED. CHAIR, COULD WE DO A ROLL CALL? OH, YES. OH YES. SORRY. UM, COMMISSIONER ANG HERE. COMMISSIONER REYES? HERE. COMMISSIONER CASTELLANOS. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR LEWIS. HERE. CHAIR VARA HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING [ORAL COMMUNICATIONS] ON TO ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. UH, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE ONE FOR GENERAL. WE DO. MM-HMM . OKAY. FOR GENERAL? THIS IS FOR, FOR WHAT? THIS IS FOR. OKAY. SO MARIO. MARIO, ARE YOU ON THE STAFF? I AM NOT , UH, ALTHOUGH MARIO SRO DISTRICT THREE. UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT. UH, GENERAL STATEMENT JUST ON DEVELOPMENT, UH, IMPACT FEES. UM, I NOTICED THAT WEST COVINA HAS NOT UPDATED THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES SINCE 2019. SO, UH, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A HOME OR AN A DU, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2500, 1800 IMPACT FEES VERSUS CITY LIKE COVINA, WHICH IS $10,000. AND WHEN WE HAVE, UH, POTENTIAL PROJECTS COMING IN WITH 200 PLUS UNITS, I FIGURE WE GET OUR, YOU KNOW, SHARE FAIR WORTH OF, UH, IMPACT FEES SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, USE THAT TO SOMETHING FOR THE CITY. SO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, MAYBE UPDATING THOSE FEES. OH, AND ONE OF ONE OTHER NOTE, UM, UH, S SENATE BILL THREE 30 I THINK OFFERS PROTECTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT, UM, FOR FREEZING THOSE FEES UPON THEIR APPLICATION. ANY CHANGE OF A SPECIFIC PLAN OR CHANGE IN ZONING, DISQUALIFIES THAT, UH, DEVELOPER FROM FREEZING THOSE, UM, IMPACT FEES AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, I'M SURE STAFF WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND FOLLOW UP. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO [2. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 25-01] MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT. WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED, UH, ARTURO, WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT. UH, CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, STAFF RECEIVED THE WRITTEN REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT MLC HOLDINGS, REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING FOR THE DEL NORTE PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER 25 DASH OH ONE ZONE CHANGE NUMBER 25 DASH ZERO ONE PRECISE PLAN, 25 DASH ONE TREE PERMIT NUMBER 25 DASH 10, AND THE ASSOCIATED TENTATIVE TRACK, MAP AND ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS WHICH WERE SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THESE ITEMS BE CONTINUED TO A DATE INSERT AND TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO FINALIZE PROJECT REVISIONS. A COPY OF THE REQUEST LETTER WILL BE PROVIDED RIGHT NOW TO THE COMMISSION FOR REFERENCE. UH, BECAUSE THE REQUEST IS A DATE TO, UM, IS TO A DATE UNCERTAIN. THE PROJECT WILL BE RENO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS. AND I'LL HAND OUT THESE, UM, THE APPLICANT'S LETTER RIGHT NOW. [00:05:01] DO WE HAVE A DATE OF TO WHEN IT'S TO BE CONTINUED? NO, IT'S TO A DATE. UNCERTAIN. UNCERTAIN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM WAS LEFT OPEN AND CONTINUES TO BE LEFT OPEN. HOWEVER, WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE ALONG WITH A PENDING MATERIAL CHANGE, UM, TO THE PROJECT. I WOULD, I WOULD THUS SUGGEST THAT THE PUBLIC HOLD COMMENTS, I KNOW EVERYBODY CAME HERE READY TO, TO, UM, SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, BUT, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD, WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY RECOMMEND AND HOLD THEIR COMMENTS ON THE PROJECT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE REVISED PROJECT IS PRESENTED. THE COMMISSION WILL ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, AS ONLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE LIMITED ISSUE CONTINUING THE MATTER. AGAIN, WE ASK THE PUBLIC TO HOLD ANY, UM, OTHER, UH, COMMENTS ON THE PROJECT ONLY BECAUSE YOUR COMMENTS MIGHT NOT EVEN APPLY TO WHAT THE NEW PLANS ARE GOING TO BE. UM, BUT IF YOU CAME TONIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU YOU WANT TO COMMENT, UM, I WOULD REQUEST A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A DATE, UH, UNSPECIFIC WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE RENO, UH, WHEN THE NEW HEARING DATE IS SELECTED. UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, CHAIR, UH, I THINK THAT THE RECOMMENDATION SHOULD COME AFTER WE HAVE, UM, THE OPENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. AND THAT PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ARE ASKING TO BE LIMITED ONLY TO, UM, THE ISSUE OF THE CONTINUING THE CONTINUANCE, THE REQUESTED CONTINUANCE. OKAY. BECAUSE, UM, WITH THE CONTINUANCE, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE PROJECT MAY CHANGE OR NOT. IS THAT ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. OKAY. SO JUST, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE WILL START WITH, UM, AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. START WITH ALBERTO MACIAS. OKAY. I'M SORRY. SURE. AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE MAY WITHDRAW, REQUESTING, WANTING TO SPEAK IF THEY'RE LIMITED YES. TO THE CONTEXT. SO FEEL FREE CONTEXT OF TO WITHDRAW IF CONTINUANCE AS EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE CHANGING. AND I'M SURE YOU'LL BE WAITING TO SEE THOSE CHANGES. OH, OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN THEY DO DECIDE, UM, WE AT ALL RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN WEST COVINA SHOULD BE NOTIFIED BY MAIL. YES. UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING NOTIFIED AND I LIVE LIKE ONE, ONE STREET AWAY, SO WE'RE NOT GETTING NOTIFIED. THEY DO PUT, THEY DID PUT A SIGN UP AND I BELIEVE THEY PUT THE SIGN UP MAYBE THIS WEEK. UM, BUT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AND I, I'VE BARELY SEEN IT THIS WEEK. IT HAD AN OLD SIGN AND THEY BARELY PUT THE NEW SIGN UP THAT SAID THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO THE HEARING TODAY. SO WE, WE'D LIKE TO FOR SURE. MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL KNOW SO WE CAN COME. SURE. UM, SO, UH, MAILING LABELS WERE SENT TO TIES PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THAT PROPERTY, UH, OF THE SITE. UM, IS YOUR ADDRESS ON THE COMMENT CARD? WELL, I'M FIVE 50 NORTH CONLIN, WHICH I'M OKAY. THE NEXT, IF YOUR ADDRESS IS ON THAT, UM, CARD, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A NOTICE. IF YOU'RE NOT ON THAT RADIUS LIST, I'LL MAKE SURE TO ADD IT. IS HER ADDRESS LISTED ON THERE? YES. PERFECT. RILED, CAN YOU READ IT? I DON'T THINK YOU WANT IT OVER THE, IT'S, THIS IS PUBLIC. OH, OKAY. CAN YOU READ? YEAH. OH, I CAN READ IT. YEAH. YES. I I THOUGHT YOU WANTED ME TO READ IT LOUD. I SCRIBBLED IT. YEAH. OKAY. I SCRIBBLED IT REALLY FAST. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU CAN READ IT. EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE. OKAY. OKAY. THEN. UM, I THINK HE'LL WE'LL WAIT UNTIL THEY DO THE NEXT ONE AND THEN THEY, YOU CAN DECIDE. THANK YOU, UHHUH. SOMETIME THE NOTICE ONLY GO OUT LIKE A TORAH WAS SAYING THAT'S ONLY 500 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW NEIGHBORS THAT WANTS TO GO, YOU ARE WELCOME TO NOTIFY THEM AS WELL. OKAY. BUT BY LEGAL LEGALLY WE CAN ONLY DO OR DID THE NOTIFICATIONS 500 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY. YEAH, THAT'S LIKE NOBODY, 'CAUSE I ASKED MY NEIGHBORS AND NONE OF THEM KNEW ABOUT IT. SO THAT'S LIKE, OKAY. NOBODY HARDLY WHAT'S A 500 COULD BE BETTER RADIUS, 500 FOOT RADIUS. CORRECT. UM, IT'S A 500 FOOT RADIUS FROM THE, UH, PARCELS, UH, PERIMETER. REMEMBER WHERE I'M AT IS WHERE THE SCHOOL'S AT. SO THE SCHOOL WILL BE AFFECTED. SO I'M ON CONLAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF MONTE VISTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SO I WILL BE INFECTED. AND SO ALL MY NEIGHBORS, 'CAUSE THE TRAFFIC'S ALREADY BAD AND THE TEACHERS ALREADY TRY TO PARK ON THE STREET 'CAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO PARK. SO THERE'S, YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. RICHARD MCCABE. THANK, THANK YOU. SHERRY BARILLA. MARILYN? [00:10:05] YES. MY NAME IS SHERRY BARILLA AND I'M IN DISTRICT ONE. UM, WHEN I WENT, I'VE BEEN TO ALL THE, THE MEETINGS FOR THIS PARTICULAR AT DONY SCHOOL. AT THE SCHOOL, I SAW PLANS THAT HAD, THEY HAD PLANS FOR A NEW DOG PARK, A NEW WATER PARK, AND AN OUTDOOR, NOT A GAZEBO, BUT UM, LIKE A STAGE AND, AND CEMENT THINGS. PLANS ARE EXPENSIVE. THEY DON'T COST 10 CENTS. THEY COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. THE COMPANY HAS ALREADY DONE THOSE. UM, THEY, I'VE SEEN THEM, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE COPIES OF THEM, BUT WHY DO WE THE PUBLIC NOT GET TO SEE THOSE DESIGNS? THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE THOSE DESIGNS TO THE CITY, BUT I THINK WE AS RESIDENTS NEED TO KNOW THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT THEY HAD PLANNED ON DOING TO OUR PARKS. OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE THOSE THREE PLANS BROUGHT FORWARD FROM, FROM MERITAGE AND I HAVE CALLED THEM AND ASKED, OKAY. AND THEN I SAW MILAN UP THERE. MILAN'S STILL UP THERE. THAT'S A DA WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT, THAT OFF. I, I CAN'T STAND THROUGH A WHOLE MEETING WHEN I'M UP IN THE HANDICAP SECTION REAL QUICK. I JUST, I JUST WANNA PUBLICLY STATE I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY PLANS OTHER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PUBLICLY SHARED. SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON ON THAT FRONT. UH, IF THOSE PLANS EXIST, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TRANSMITTED TO ME. MAYBE DOES SHE MEAN THESE RIGHT HERE, THOSE TYPES OF PLANTS OR WHATNOT OR, OR STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT THE PARK, NOT NOT THE DEVELOPMENT. SOME DISCUSSION OF AN AMPHITHEATER AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS REGARDING THE PARK OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT. AND ALSO NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SHARED WITH ME. AND SO FAR AS I KNOW, NOT EVEN IF WE HAD IT, EVERYTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE. SO AT THIS POINT IT'S MOOT. BUT THANK YOU, UH, ERIC PINAL. JUST REALLY QUICK, IF THINGS ARE CHANGING, I MEAN IF WE, IF THERE'S SOME WAY IT WOULD HELP BECAUSE WE'RE NOW ON THE BACKSIDE AS, AS RESIDENTS TRYING TO CATCH UP. ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THE 500 FEET IN THE RADIUS. IT IS, IT IS. UM, I LIVE OFF OF NORTH OF ROLAND THERE AND WHERE THE DOG PARK ENDS, OUR HOUSE WAS AND REACHED AT 500 FEET. AND THE LADY THAT CAME EARLIER, HER HOUSE WOULDN'T EITHER, BUT WERE GREATLY AFFECTED. ORIGINALLY THE PLANS DID NOT HAVE OPENINGS TO THE PARK. AND THOSE PLANS APPARENTLY WERE CHANGED WHERE THE OPENINGS CAME TO THE PARK. AND THAT WAS THE DESIGN. I MEAN, AGAIN, I KNOW WE NEED, UM, GROWTH AND WE NEED PLACES FOR HOMES, BUT THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS EXUBERANT. NO MORE THAN A HUNDRED SHOULD HAPPEN. THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN DOG PARK, THEIR OWN TENANT COURT, THEIR OWN GAZEBOS. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC, I MEAN A PRIVATE POOL THERE, A HUGE HOA POOL. WE CAN'T WALK IN THERE BUT OPENING'S THERE. BUT IT'S ONLY ONE WAY. OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY'S BEING DISRUPTED. ON SUNDAY, I TOOK PICTURES OF THE BASEBALL FIELD THAT'S GONNA BE GONE OBVIOUSLY, BUT AGAIN, DISPLACED OF A COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR IT TEAMS AND PLAYING AND FAMILY. SO, UH, FROM THE GET-GO, THE LADY FROM MERIT TOUCH THAT CAME IN, SHE HAS TOLD YOU GUYS TWO WEEKS AGO OR WHEN THE LAST MEETING SAYING, OR A PRINTER MADE AN ERROR, BUT THAT WAS CORRECTED. AND SO I'M REQUESTING THAT WE GET THAT LIST OF ALL THE RESIDENTS. 'CAUSE MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE 500 FEET HAVE NOT, DIDN'T RECEIVE THE MAILER. THERE WAS LESS THAN 30 PEOPLE AT THE ORIGINAL MEETING AT THE PARK THERE IN DEL NOR, SO THEY'RE PRINTING ERROR. WHO IS SUPERVISING THAT? ALL THOSE HOMES MAYBE HAVE A SECOND PRINTING DONE HERE. BUT IF WE CAN GET THE ADDRESSES, I'LL GO DOOR TO DOOR AND ASK, DID YOU GET ONE? DID YOU GET ONE? DID YOU GET ONE? WE'RE GONNA HEAR A LOT OF NOS. SO FROM THE GET GO, THERE WAS A CLOSED MEETING LAST, UM, AT THE LAST, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK WITH MERITAGE. IT WAS ON THEIR AGENDA. WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED OBVIOUSLY IS CLOSED MEETINGS, BUT THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD. AND AT SOME POINT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE, YOU CAN'T STOP THIS ANYMORE. AND I'M AFRAID OF THAT. THAT YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, POSTPONE THIS, POSTPONE THAT. BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, THEY'RE NOT NEW TO THIS, THIS IS NOT THEIR FIRST RODEO. THEY'VE CREATED A LOT OF THESE, UH, SAME KIND OF CONDO SITUATIONS AND HOMES AND OTHER PLACES. THEY KNOW THAT THEY START HIGH AND LEVERAGE WITH THE CITY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING FROM FOUR STORY DOWN TO THREE STORY, OR WE'RE DOING THIS, WE'RE DOING THAT. AND IT'S A GAME FOR THEM. IT'S ABOUT MONEY, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A GAME FOR US. IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY. IT'S OUR HOME. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT IN THIS. THEY HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT TO US. AND THEN FAIRNESS AND, AND THAT'S THE THING. JUST LET'S BE FAIR AND MAKE THIS A FAIR DEVELOPMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. NOT DESTROYING BECAUSE HOA AND THEIR FEES FOREVER AND THAT POOL AND ALL THE THINGS, AND THEY GET TO THEN OVERRIDE AND PUT EVERYTHING INTO [00:15:01] ON THE CITY AND OUR, AND ON THE, ON OUR, ON OUR OWN PARKS AND THINGS. SO I WOULD LIKE THE LIST. AND HOW DO WE GET THAT ADDRESS LIST? THEY SAID TO CONTACT THE CITY, BUT THEY SAID THEY'RE ALREADY LIKE THREE OR FOUR WEEKS BEHIND IN RETURNING, UM, INFORMATION LIKE THAT. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK FROM THE VERY GET GO, THEY WERE THOROUGH AND ETHICAL IN GETTING THOSE ADDRESSES, THOSE FLYERS OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARDO. IS THERE A LIST WHERE, OR, UH, SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY, HOW THEY CAN VERIFY IF THEY'RE ON THE LIST TO BE? UM, THE FILE HAS THE RADIUS MAP AND LABELS THAT, I MEAN, IF THEY COME TO THE CITY, I, I CAN SHOW THAT TO THEM. IT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, BUT, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY SHOW THAT TO THEM. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REFERENCING THE MAILING LABELS OR THE PAMPHLETS THAT THE APPLICANT PUT OUT. 'CAUSE I THINK THE APPLICANT HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THEY HAVE, THEY CIRCULATED, UM, PAMPHLETS. THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. OUR, OUR NOTICING IS, UM, A CERTIFIED MAILING COMPANY CREATES THOSE LABELS. IT'S A THIRD PARTY THAT CREATES THOSE LABELS AND THEY GIVE US A RADIUS MAP. AND UH, OUR STAFF PERSONALLY TAKES 'EM TO THE POST OFFICE. SO WE KNOW THEY GET MAILED AT LEAST 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THIS, TO, TO THE MEETING. SO, UM, THEY WERE MAILED AGAIN. UM, FOR THIS MEETING, UH, WE DID ANOTHER 500, UH, RADIUS. UM, SO WE DO HAVE THAT IN THE FILE SO I CAN SHOW THAT TO THEM IF THEY COME TO THE CITY. RIGHT. AND OUR LIST IS THIS, THE CITY SENDS OUT, UM, NOTICES REGARDING THIS PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S THE REQUIRED, UM, THAT'S THE STATE REQUIREMENT FOR, THAT'S THE CITY ADOPTED AND STATE REQUIRED NOTICING. OUR LIST IS THE SAME AS THE APPLICANT'S LIST. CORRECT. IT MAY NOT BE. 'CAUSE THE APPLICANT, AGAIN, IF THEY'RE DOING A COMMUNITY MEETING, IT'S UP TO THEM HOW FAR, HOW WIDE THEY WANT TO SEND THEIR, THEIR PAMPHLETS OUT. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENT THAT, THAT THEY ABIDE BY. THEY CAN GO HIGHER. THEY CAN GO LOWER. IS IS THERE A WAY WE CAN SET SOMETHING UP SO RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF THAT 500 FEET CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, JOT THEIR NAMES DOWN TO BE CONTACTED? YES. THERE, THERE, UM, STAFF CAN, UH, MANAGE. I'M, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD AND COME SPEAK TO THE FRONT. THANK YOU. THERE IS AN OPTION FOR, UM, A RESIDENT TO PUT THEIR NAME ON A MAILING, UM, ON A LIST. AND ANY ITEMS PERTAINING TO THIS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THAT RADIUS, UM, WILL BE NOTIFIED. SO WE, I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. WE CAN DO THAT FOR THIS PROJECT. THEY JUST NEED TO CONTACT US AND GIVE US THEIR NAME AND THEIR ADDRESS AND THEY'LL BE PUT ON THE MAILING LIST. OKAY. UM, SECONDLY, OKAY. YEAH, SO THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT. THEY CAN, THEY CAN PUT THEIR NAME ON THAT LIST SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THEM IN THAT, THAT UH, RADIUS. SO THEY WOULD NEED TO COME TO CITY HALL. WHOSE OFFICE WOULD THEY NEED? EMAIL. THEY CAN EMAIL. UM, THEY CAN EMAIL YOU. THEY CAN EMAIL US AT, UH, PLANNING DIVISION@WESTCOVINA.ORG PLANNING DIVISION@WESTCOVINA.ORG. YOU CAN ALSO CC ME, UH, AS WELL. UH, MY EMAIL IS ACERVANTES@WESTCOVINA.ORG. THAT'S A-C-E-R-V-N-T-E S@WESTCOVINA.ORG. YOU REPLIED, APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THE LAST MEETING, THE THANK APPRECIATE THAT OF COURSE, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIME IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN VACANT FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 30, 40 YEARS AND THE FLYERS OR THE NOTICE THE EXISTING SCHOOL, IT'S OH, OKAY. POINT, POINT OF ORDER. I'M, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE HAVING A, A DIALOGUE LIKE THIS. I, I UNDERSTAND. I, I I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO WANT TO ENGAGE IN THAT. UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IF WE LET ANYONE TALK FOR IN EXCESS OF THREE MINUTES, WE'RE DEPRIVING OTHER PEOPLE OF THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF US. AND THAT'S INHERENTLY PROBLEMATIC. SO I JUST WANT TO NOTE MY OBJECTION AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER AND, UH, MOVE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF, UH, ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LEWIS. UH, NEXT IS STEVE SCHUSTER BRIEF, UM, COMMENT ON, [00:20:01] UM, PARKING ON SUNSET AVENUE. AND THIS IS RIGHT NOW, NOT AFTER THE PROJECT. UM, THERE'S NO PARKING PER STREET CLEANING, AND IT'S BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET ON THE SAME DAY AND PRETTY MUCH OVERLAPPING TIME. AND IT EXTENDS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IF YOU HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREET, YOU HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU EVEN HAVE TO GO. SO THAT'S SOMETHING, USUALLY THE ALTERNATE SIDE OF THE STREET, DIFFERENT DAYS. I UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR STREET CLEANING, BUT IT'S A LOT OF CARS THAT PARK ON SUNSET AND, UM, PRETTY DIFFICULT TO FIND A PLACE TO GO ON TUESDAYS, TUESDAY MORNINGS. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU. UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE HAVING THE HEARING FOR THE PROJECT, BUT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD UNDER ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. RIGHT. WH WHICH I I THOUGHT YOU WERE NOT TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT, BUT SINCE YOU ARE, I HAVE CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY SINCE I'M A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. SORRY. AND LET'S PAUSE THIS TIME. TECHNICALLY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER BECAUSE THE APPLICANT ISN'T HERE. SO, UH, IF, IF WE CAN LIMIT DISCUSSION TO, UH, TO ISSUES SURROUNDING THE REQUESTED CONTINUANCE, THAT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW. OTHERWISE, TECHNICALLY YOU'RE ASKING FOR CONTINUANCE FOR HOW LONG TO A DATE UNCERTAIN. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED. AND SO ULTIMATELY EVERYTHING ON HOLD UNTIL THEN, YES. THAT'S, THAT'S IT. AND EVERYONE, EVERYONE WILL BE RENO. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MARIO S HELLO, MARIO AGAIN. UM, ALL RIGHT. FRAME THIS FOR CONTINUANCE. UM, OKAY. SO WITH REGARDS TO CONTINUANCE, I WANNA DISCUSS WITH REGARDS TO, UM, I GUESS WOULD BE THE NOTIFICATIONS, UH, RADIUS FOR DEVELOPMENT. UM, SINCE 2018, I WAS GOING TO THE DOG PARK. UM, Y'ALL WANNA KNOW THAT I'M PRETTY ENGAGED AND INVOLVED WITH THE CITY MATTERS. IT TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF A SCREENSHOT OF A SCREENSHOT OF A FRIEND THAT GRABBED A FLYER THAT WAS IN SOMEBODY'S MAILBOX, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AGO FOR ME TO FIND OUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS HAPPENING AT DEL NORTE. AND IT WOULD BE MY REQUEST WHEN DEVELOPMENT. I CAN UNDERSTAND A DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT'S JUST SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTS, BUT WHEN A DEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING NEXT TO A PARK, WHICH IS UTILIZED BY THE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT OR NEXT TO A SCHOOL OR NEXT TO A BUSINESS, IF THE CITY COULD PERHAPS LOOK AT EXPANDING THAT RADIUS OR CREATING A SYSTEM TO LET YOU KNOW, TO NOTIFY, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF US THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED THAT DO NOT LIVE IN THAT AREA BY THESE PROJECTS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME TO PUT YOUR NAME ON THE LIST. EMAIL ARTURO. AND, UH, AT THIS POINT, THAT'S, THAT'S CODE. SO WE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CHANGE THAT. GAIL PLATH, DID I PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT? HUH? DID I PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT? PLATH. WOW. OKAY. UM, SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION TO NOTIFY US IF WE'RE 500 FEET FROM THE STRUCTURE TO OF ANY MEETINGS. I WAS NOTIFIED BY MAIL BECAUSE I FILLED OUT A PAPER. MY NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST WERE NEVER NOTIFIED. SO I'M WONDERING WHERE IS YOUR LIST AND HOW ARE YOU REALLY NOTIFIED BECAUSE THEY WOULD'VE LOVED TO COME, HAD GIVEN THE PROPER NOTICE. SECONDLY IS HOW DID WE KNOW THIS WAS CANCELED? I NEVER KNEW I'M ON YOUR LIST. HOW DID I KNOW THIS MEETING WAS GOING TO BE RESCHEDULED? I HAVE KIDS, I HAVE PLANS. IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE FOR THIS NOTIFICATION TO AT LEAST BE PUT ON YOUR PUBLIC WEBSITE, AND I WOULDN'T HAVE SHOWN UP HERE. BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY YOU ARE NOTIFYING PEOPLE 500 FEET, WHICH I AM, YOU NEED TO ALSO NOTIFY MY NEIGHBORS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT WAS PURPOSELY, BUT I KNOW MORE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON NORA AVENUE WOULD BE HERE HAD THEY BEEN NOTIFIED AND GIVEN THE TWO WEEK NOTICE. SO WHOEVER'S MAKING YOUR LIST NEEDS TO CHECK IT TWICE AND EVEN MAYBE GET SOME OF US RESIDENTS TO GO UP AND DOWN THE STREETS AND PASS OUT THESE FLYERS IF THE POSTAGE IS AN ISSUE. BECAUSE I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY [00:25:01] TO CIRCULATE MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I BELIEVE WE WERE ALL NOTIFIED TODAY. SO THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS LAST MINUTE BY THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE THAT SAID THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE CHANGES. THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO MAYBE, PERHAPS COMPLY OR TO MAKE CHANGES TO MAKE THE RESIDENTS HAPPIER. WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE. SO AT THIS POINT, UM, IT MAY BE IN THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS. SO I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO TELLING. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE YET. BUT THERE ARE CHANGES. I, I ACCEPT THAT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS NOBODY'S BEING NOTIFIED ABOUT THESE MEETINGS. THEY'RE NOT, AND IF YOU DON'T GO ON THE WEBSITE, I GUESS YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS TO IT. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AT MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE NOTIFIED. AND I THINK 500 FEET IS KIND OF SMALL. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU SHOULD STEP UP TO SOME OF US RESIDENTS WHO ARE WILLING TO SPREAD THE FLYER AROUND, BECAUSE I THINK MORE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HERE. THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED THE 500, BUT IF YOU PUT YOUR NAME ON THE LIST, THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE LIST. I GOT THE NOTICE. OKAY. BUT MY NEIGHBORS DIDN'T GET IT. AND THE EAST, MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET DIDN'T GET IT. SO I KNOW THAT IT'S, AND THEY'RE ALL 500 FEET TOO. I THINK YOU GOT ME ON THE LIST BECAUSE I WROTE MY NAME WITH MY ADDRESS ON YOUR LITTLE PA PAPER. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK MY ADDRESS APPEARED. BUT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE NOTICES, BUT GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION AND SO THEY CAN GET ON THAT LIST, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, CAN WE VOLUNTEER TO SPREAD THESE FLYERS OUT? YES, DEFINITELY. SO CAN YOU TAKE MY NAME AND CALL ME AND TELL ME TO PICK UP 500 OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND I'LL SPREAD 'EM OUT ALONG THE STREETS, BECAUSE I THINK THE PEOPLE BEHIND NORA SHOULD BE NOTIFIED TOO. THEY'RE AFFECTED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GAIL. ANGELA CUNNINGHAM. GOOD EVENING. SORRY IF YOU MENTIONED THIS, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR IT, BUT HOW DO WE KNOW, OR WHERE DO WE LOOK TO FIND OUT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN BETWEEN THE MEETINGS? UM, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT I HEARD TONIGHT, I, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. UM, I DID KNOW ABOUT TONIGHT'S MEETING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE, UM, INVESTORS WEREN'T GONNA BE HERE OR DIDN'T HAVE THEIR STUFF READY ON TIME. SO IS THERE, RATHER THAN RELYING ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD APP, SOMETIMES IT'S UPDATED WHERE ON THE CITY OR HOW, WHERE DO YOU FIND INFORMATION OUT? ARTURO, DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT? ? YEAH, WE POST THE AGENDA THREE DAYS PRIOR TO, UM, UH, OUR MEETING. UM, WE ALSO CIRCULATE, UH, AS, AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL TOUCH ON THIS, UM, THE RADIUS ACTUALLY EXPANDED IN 28, 24, THE NEW ZONING CODE ADOPTION, IT WENT FROM 300, UH, FOOT RADIUS TO 500 FOOT RADIUS. SO THAT EXPANSION HAS TAKEN PLACE. UM, IT, IT IS ALSO POSTED TO THE SITE AT LEAST 20 DAYS PRIOR TO, UH, THE MEETING. UM, IT'S WHAT POSTED 20 DAYS PRIOR? THE, THE, THE, THIS MEETING DATE, THE, THE NOTICE IS POSTED AT THE SITE UHHUH. UM, IT'S CIRCULATED IN A NEWSPAPER AND IT IS, UM, MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500, WITHIN A 500 FOOT RADIUS OF THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NOTICES, THE FIVE THAT'S, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE 500 RADIUS NOTICES. I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE, THE, THE, NOT THE AGENDA, THE, THE, THE OTHER PLANS THAT THEY HAD. UM, SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED YES, THE PLANS YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UM, AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THE CONVERSATIONS, I GUESS, I GUESS THERE, THERE, THERE'S NO WAY TO FIND THAT OUT IN BETWEEN MEETINGS, LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON IN BETWEEN MEETINGS SO THAT WE AS RESIDENTS, IF WE WANNA RESEARCH SOMETHING OR LOOK SOMETHING UP, HOW CAN WE FIND THAT OUT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S STUFF GOING IN BETWEEN, YOU DON'T JUST WAIT FROM ONE MEETING TO THE NEXT, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE. BUT IS IT, CAN YOU FIND THAT OUT OR NOT? I, I DON'T, UH, SO, SO, SO PLANS, THEY HAVE NEW PLANS, THEY SUBMITTED IT. UM, OR, UM, I SHOULD HAVE WROTE DOWN WHAT THE OTHER PERSON HAD SAID, BUT I, I DON'T REALLY RECALL. BUT IS THERE MORE INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT IN BETWEEN MEETINGS ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMEWHERE? DO WE MAKE PHONE CALLS? I DON'T WANT TO CUT INTO YOUR THREE MINUTES, SO I'LL LET YOU FINISH WHEN YOU'RE DONE, THEN I CAN, IF THE, [00:30:01] IF THE COMMISSION DIRECTS ME, I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. NO, THAT'S FINE. I JUST, I'M BASICALLY WANTING TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. UM, AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEY, THEY CONTINUED IT, SO WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT BY GETTING A NOTICE, BUT WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET THAT NOTICE? THAT'S IT. WOULD YOU LIKE ARTURO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOESN'T MATTER. OKAY. AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA CUT INTO YOUR THREE MINUTES, SO IF YOU'RE DONE, I'M DONE. OKAY. UM, SO AGAIN, THOSE NOTICES WILL GO OUT, UM, TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 500 FOOT RADIUS. IF YOU'RE NOT WITHIN THAT 500 FOOT FOOT RADIUS, UM, YOU CAN PROVIDE US WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE'LL INCLUDE YOU ON A LIST AND YOU'LL BE PART OF THAT, OF THE NOTICING, UH, UH, THE NOTICES THAT GO OUT, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BETWEEN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN BETWEEN. UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE APPLICANT'S GONNA PROPOSE. SO THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH INFORMATION WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU AT THIS TIME. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. QUICK QUESTION ON, ON THE NOTICES. I KNOW IT'S 500 FEET, OBVIOUSLY SOME RESIDENTS ARE HAVE CONCERN WHETHER THEY'RE ON THAT LIST OR NOT. IS THERE SOMETHING ON THE WEBSITE WE CAN POST THAT SHOWS WHICH RESIDENTS ARE ON THAT 500 FEET? SO THE ONES THAT AREN'T, CAN GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT THEIR NAME AND INFORMATION SO THEY CAN BE INCLUDED IN THAT? UM, THAT'S INFORMATION WE DON'T POST. UM, THERE ARE SOME PRIVACY ISSUES THAT CAN ARISE FROM THAT. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY CAN USE IT FOR MARKETING OR, OR SOMETHING. MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR ADDRESS OUT THERE. SO I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT WE POST IT ON THE WEBSITE. THAT'S WHY IF I'VE, I'VE OFFERED, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME AND, AND REVIEW THE ADDRESSES THAT WE HAVE, THEY CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. I'M NOT EVEN SAYING POST THE ADDRESS, PUT A MAP, HERE'S THE SQUARE. IF YOU'RE IN THAT SQUARE, THIS IS THE HOUSES THAT WILL BE, UM, NOTIFIED. ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT WON'T, THAT WAY THEY AT LEAST KNOW MM-HMM . OBVIOUSLY, WHOEVER LIVES IN THAT AREA IS GONNA KNOW WHERE THEY LAND IN THAT BOX AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THAT BOX WON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . UM, YEAH, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T GENERATE THAT, THAT IMAGE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GENERATED BY A THIRD, UH, PARTY, A MAILING LABEL COMPANY. UM, YOU CAN CERTAINLY GO ON GOOGLE MAPS AND THEY HAVE A, A DISTANCE TOOL AND YOU CAN TAKE 500 FEET, 500 FEET. YOUR RIGHT ISN'T A LOT. IT MAY BE HALF A BLOCK AND SINCE, AND SINCE IT COULD BE A WHOLE BLOCK. UM, BUT THAT'S WHY WE OFFER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OPTION TO PUT YOUR NAME ON THE LIST AND WE'LL INCLUDE YOU WITH THOSE MAILING LABELS. LORENA PINAL, UM, MY HUSBAND, AND I'LL BE SHARING SOME THINGS HERE. YEAH. JUST ON THAT SAME MATTER, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO WALMART, THEY WANT TO HAVE YOU REGISTER TO VOTE OR SOMETHING, AND YOU SIGN YOUR NAME, YOU PUT YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, WHATEVER. IF WE CREATED A FORM THAT JUST SAID NAME, ADDRESS, SIGNATURE AND EMAIL, AND WE WENT DOWN THE BLOCKS AND COLLECTED THE, COULD WE SUBMIT THOSE TO YOU AS OPPOSED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT GIVING THAT FORM, GETTING IT? WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT AS A YEAH. THE COLLECTIVE? SO WE, OF COURSE MM-HMM . OKAY. AND, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, MR. PINAL, I'M SO SORRY, YOU ALREADY HAD THREE MINUTES. IF YOUR WIFE CHOOSES TO SPEAK, SHE, THIS IS HER TURN. OKAY. THIS, YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. I, I JUST WANNA BRING SOMETHING TO YOUR ATTENTION. UM, MAYBE ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THERE WAS A STOP SIGN THAT WAS PLACED ON NORA AND, UM, IS IT ROLAND? OKAY. WE NEVER HAD A STOP SIGN THERE BEFORE, SO OBVIOUSLY IT WAS PUT THERE FOR A PURPOSE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH TRAFFIC. AND YES, WE HAVE MONTE VISTA JUST AROUND THE CORNER. SO I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER WHAT IS, UM, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ALSO GONNA CREATE THERE. IT WAS ALSO A MAN THAT GOT KILLED ABOUT MAYBE A FEW YEARS AGO, UM, RIGHT OFF OF, UH, SUNSET AND ROLAND. HE WAS BARELY STEPPED OFF THE STREET AND HE GOT HIT AND KILLED. THAT'S IT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE KNOW THAT SUNSET IS NOT A STREET. WHEN I MOVED HERE, IT WAS JUST A STREET. NOW IT'S ALMOST A BOULEVARD. SO I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO REALLY CONSIDER WHAT IS HAPPENING, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE COMING IN 200. AND I THINK YOU BROUGHT IT DOWN TO 262. I, IT'S AN ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WOULDN'T WANT THAT HAPPENING TO YOUR COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU LIVE AT. I KNOW YOU WOULD AND YOU WOULD BE FIGHTING FOR US. I REALLY HOPE YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, REALLY LOOK AT THIS AND FIGHT FOR US. REALLY, I, I WOULD GREATLY WANT YOU TO TAKE THAT AND MOLD THAT OVER. HOW WOULD I FEEL THAT WOULD BE NEXT DOOR TO ME? YOU KNOW? AND THE THINGS [00:35:01] THAT MY HUSBAND BROUGHT UP WITH THE PARK, THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THESE IN AMENITIES, AND YET THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO A PARK THAT IS ALREADY VERY INUNDATED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE WEEKENDS. THERE ISN'T ANY PARKING AROUND WHEN YOU DRIVE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. 'CAUSE A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES COME IN AND USE THOSE FACILITIES THERE. AND SO I'D, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS, UM, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY, OUR COMMUNITY TREMENDOUSLY. AND MAYBE YOU WERE MISLED THAT POINT OF ORDER. MADAM CHAIR, THE SPEAKER HAS ALREADY HAD HIS THREE MINUTES. JUST SAY A MOMENT AND, AND AGAIN, RESPECTFULLY TO ANYONE SPEAKING, THIS NEEDS TO BE ORIENTED TOWARD A CONTINUANCE. OTHERWISE IT'S OUTSIDE THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE ITEM BEFORE US. AND UNFORTUNATELY, LOOK, I I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND. WE ALL WANT TO HEAR YOU OUT. WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOU OUT. WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT IN FRONT OF US THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU OUT ON. SO I, FOR, FOR FORGIVE THE BREVITY HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO. THIS REALLY JUST COMES DOWN TO CONTINUING THIS PROJECT OR NOT, UM, TO AN UNCERTAIN DATE. AND APPLICANTS MAKE THOSE REQUESTS ROUTINELY. SO I, I DON'T KNOW. I, I I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TO SAY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE BROWN ACT, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ROBERTS RULES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND, AND I, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE, THE CHAIR, UM, ADMONISH SPEAKERS FOR GOING OUTSIDE OF THE CONFINES OF THE ACTUAL SUBJECT MATTER ISSUE BEFORE US TONIGHT. AS MUCH AS WE ALL WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, AND I DO VERY MUCH NOTED. I STILL HAVE A FEW SECONDS. UM, I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT SOMETHING WHERE THERE WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE SCHOOL DEL NORTH SCHOOL. IT HAS BEEN, ACTUALLY, IT WAS OPEN MAYBE ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, AND THEY STILL USE IT FOR OTHER, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICT USES. SO IT HASN'T BEEN CLOSED. I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY 30 TO 40 YEARS HASN'T BEEN CLOSED FOR 30 TO 40 YEARS. THERE'S ACTUALLY A ROP GOING ON IN THAT SCHOOL. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT, UH, TO CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I WONDER IF ALL THIS ATTENTION AND CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD WHEN THEY, THEY MADE THE SALE AND, AND NOW THE MESS IS LEFT IN OUR HANDS. OKAY. SO WHERE WERE YOU ALL WHEN THEY WERE MAKING THIS DECISION? WE DID NOT MAKE THIS DECISION. WE ARE LEFT TO APPROVE SOMEBODY WHO PUT IN AN, IN A REQUEST FOR A PERMIT. AND IT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT, UM, THAT'S JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. OKAY. SO WE'LL CALL THE NEXT PERSON REBECCA URICK, JUST REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, WITH ABOUT THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT YOU GUYS AS ADVOCATES FOR US AND THE RESIDENTS AND TO MAKE THE CITY GREAT. WE WERE JUST ASKING YOU TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND, AND EXPAND THE, THE NOTIFICATION. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE. THE MEANS YOU'RE, YOU WORK, I MEAN, I HATE TO SAY THAT YOU WORK FOR US, I DON'T MEAN THAT, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING THE CITY BETTER FOR US. SO WE'RE YOUR RESIDENTS AND WE'RE JUST ASKING TO PLEASE EXPOUND THE NOTIFICATION. THAT'S ALL. AND LIKE I SPOKE YOU SPEAKING TO THE MIC, I'M SORRY I SPOKE LAST TIME. PULL IT DOWN. THERE YOU GO. I SPOKE LAST TIME. I TURNED IN A FORM. I DIDN'T GET A NOTIFICATION. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. IT JUST FOR THE COMMISSION, THE PLANNING, WHOEVER DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND INFORM YOUR RESIDENTS, YOUR RESIDENTS FOR YOUR CITY THAT YOU WORK FOR, THANK YOU. AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE FOR STAFF. AND IF YOU, THEY'VE ALREADY MADE THE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE, MAYBE YOU CAN PASS OUT FLOWER FLYERS WITH, UH, EMAILS. YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT, PUT YOUR NAME ON THE LIST. UH, THEY CAN CALL VERIFY MAYBE IF THEIR NAME IS ON THE LIST. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS THAT YOU CAN MAKE SURE AND ENSURE THAT YOU ARE NOTIFIED. SO, AND I I I, I'M WITH YOU. YOU, I WOULD WANNA BE NOTIFIED TOO. SO IF, IF EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, ANYONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, LIKE YOU SAID, DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED, I WOULD, I WOULD GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION THAT THEY YOU RECEIVED TONIGHT. ELVIA LIMA CHEESE. I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UH, TO GET SOMEBODY TO LEAVE MEETINGS FROM [00:40:01] DOWNTOWN LA TO GET TO THIS MEETING BECAUSE IT MATTERS. AND SOMEBODY THAT U IS USUALLY VERY INSECURE ABOUT SPEAKING IN PUBLIC. UH, IT, IT'S BECAUSE IT MATTERS A LOT. THIS PROJECT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY DISRUPTIVE TO THE COMMUNITY. SO HERE I AM IN TERMS OF THE NOTIFICATIONS. I, I MUST SAY I USUALLY WALK AROUND OR TAKE MY MORNING WALK ON A SATURDAY AROUND HOLLOW. AND I STOPPED BY ONE OF THE NAME NEIGHBORS AND I ASKED HER, I SAID, HEY, YOU ARE WATERING YOUR PLANTS HERE AND IT'S VERY PEACEFUL THIS MORNING. HAVE YOU REALIZED WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM, FROM WHERE WE ARE? AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, I JUST CAME TO KNOW ABOUT IT AND I ASKED MY NEIGHBORS, AND NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS PROJECT, ONLY BECAUSE THEY JUST RECENTLY POSTED THAT BIG SIGN THERE. BUT IT IS ALL HAPPENING WITHOUT THE C THE THE COMMUNITY BEING NOTIFIED. AND IT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT HERE. WE NEED BETTER NOTIFICATIONS. AND WHAT I KEEP ON HEARING IS THE MAILERS. AND WE WERE NOTIFIED IN THE 500 FEET, BUT WE ARE IN THE 21ST CENTURY WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, WITH AI DOING THE JOB FOR US. AND I WONDER WHY ARE WE NOT RELYING ON MORE, UM, VIRTUAL AND UH, ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL TO HAVE BETTER OUTREACH. I MEAN, WE SEE, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS PUBLISHED IN THE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNTS, THE FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS, AND EVERYBODY'S COMMENTING AND INVOLVED AND ENGAGED. WHY, WHY ARE WE NOT USING THOSE MEDIA TO GET THE COMMUNITY AWARE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING OR WHAT IS COMING UP OR WHAT THEY SHOULD BE SHOWING UP FOR? WHY ARE WE ONLY USING IT FOR WHEN WE WANNA LOOK GREAT AND WE HAVE THIS EVENT AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, HEY, LOOK WHAT WE DID. CAN WE ALSO USE SOCIAL MEDIA TO GET THESE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING FOR THEM TO SHOW UP? ARE, I'M SORRY, ARE YOU FINISHED? YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANDREA. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M NOT GOOD AT PUBLIC SPEAKING EITHER. THE ONLY TIME I USED TO PUBLIC SPEAK WAS YELLING AT MY KIDS IN TARGET TO STOP FIGHTING WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE. SO , YOU GET USED TO IT. ARTURO, IS THERE ANY, I GUESS SOCIAL MEDIA THAT ANY CITIES HAVE THAT OFFER THAT TO THE RESIDENTS? UH, WELL THE PLANNING DIVISION, UH, DOESN'T HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, SITE. THE CITY MIGHT, BUT THE, UM, BUT WE DON'T, UM, IT, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT BY, BY STATE OR BY CITY ORDINANCE TO, TO POSE IN PUBLIC ME, UM, ANY TYPE OF SOCIAL MEDIA. UM, WE UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE THE EMAILS TO THE RESIDENTS 'CAUSE THERE'S NO DATABASE THAT WE CAN, UH, DIP INTO TO, TO SEE THOSE, UM, THOSE EMAILS. UM, SO THE TRIED AND TRUE MAILING NOTICES, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNERS PULLED OFF THE ASSESSOR'S TAX ROLL THAT THAT'S WHAT WE GO GO OFF OF. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY. UM, 21 CENTURY, LET'S MOVE FORWARD. AND AND THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTES SAY, MAILING, THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTES FOR FOR NOTICE, SAY MAIL. THEY, THEY HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP TO YES, FACEBOOK AT ALL FOR . DON'T FORGET PUBLICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT EVERYBODY READS . SO ARE WE ALLOWED TO, IS IS THERE ANY WAY THAT UH, YOU KNOW, A STAFF MEMBER OR SOMEONE CAN PUT ON A WEST VENA BUZZ OR SOMETHING AND INFORM, IS THAT ALLOWED ALL THE TIME? MM-HMM . UM, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY PROMISES. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT, BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO RESPECT THE, THE, THE STATE REQUIREMENT AND WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO THE MAILINGS 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED. UM, AND ON OUR WEBSITE WE ALSO POST, WHEN WE POST THE AGENDA, ALL THIS INFORMATION'S POSTED UP THERE. UM, AND AS YOU'VE SEEN WITH THIS PROJECT, THERE HAVE BEEN REVISIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE PLAY SOMETHING OUT THERE AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY IT CHANGES. THERE MAY BE REPERCUSSIONS OR, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME FALLOUT FROM THAT. SO WE WANT TO BE KIND OF CAUTIOUS, UM, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS. YEAH, SO I ALSO WANNA ADD THAT REGARDING THE CONTINUANCE. UM, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD IT TO CONTINUE TO THIS MEETING. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. AND THEN FOR THIS MEETING, WE JUST HEARD FROM A TORO, ME PERSONALLY JUST HEARD FROM MONTERO THAT IT WILL BE CONTINUED AGAIN TO AN UNKNOWN DATE. SO BECAUSE IT'S CONTINUED, THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT, WE GET THE PACKAGE ON [00:45:01] THURSDAY, ALL THE PLANS, ALL THE MOST UPDATED, UM, INFORMATIONS ON THURSDAY. AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO READ ALL THAT AND THEN HEAR EVERYTHING TODAY AND THEN MAKE SOME SORT OF DECISIONS. SO IN TERMS OF INFORMATION, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE HOLDING OR THAT WE ARE NOT INFORMING THE PUBLIC. LITERALLY I JUST SAT ON THE CHAIRS AND WHEN THE OPEN MEETINGS STARTED, THAT'S WHEN THE CONTINUANCE AND THE LETTER WAS PASSED TO US THAT IT WILL BE CONTINUANCE TO A UNKNOWN DATE. SO I JUST WANT THE PUBLIX TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT THE INFORMATION, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY GAVE IT TO THE CITY, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S, IT'S, THE MATTER IS THAT IT WAS CONTINUED FROM THE LAST MEETING AND WE HAVE TO BE HERE AND ADDRESS THE CONTINUANCE. MOVING ON TO THE FUTURE DATES. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANNA ADD REGARDING THE CONTINUANCE. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THE SAME THING. THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT ANY REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE WAS AFTER I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL AT 3:51 PM FROM MR. CERVANTES. UH, THAT WAS WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE REQUEST. THE FIRST TIME I EVER ACTUALLY SAW THE REQUEST IN WRITING WAS RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF ALL OF YOU. SO BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU KNOW AND WHAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. AND SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU PREPARE FOR A MEETING AND THEN YOU RECEIVE A LAST MINUTE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. SO, UH, SO ULTIMATELY WHILE I SYMPATHIZE AND BELIEVE ME, UM, I I I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT MANY OF YOU CAME OUT WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RESULT THIS EVENING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. UM, UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S JUST NOT IN THE CARDS. UM, AND AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE BEHEST OF WHATEVER PROJECT IS PUT IN FRONT OF US OR NOT PUT IN FRONT OF US. SO I, I HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND, UM, AND I HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND. ULTIMATELY WE DO WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SUBSTANTIVELY ON WHATEVER IS ACTUALLY PUT UP BEFORE US AND NOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW I HAVE, I HAVE THIS MASSIVE THING RIGHT HERE FOR A PROJECT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY EVEN BEFORE US ANY, ANY FURTHER. SO, YOU KNOW, KNOW, DUNNO WHAT TO TELL YOU ON THAT FRONT. BUT, UM, SO ACTUALLY WE ALL, HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING, WE WOULD ALL BE HOME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY THING ON THE AGENDA. SO ANYWAYS, AT THAT BEING SAID, AT THIS TIME, I WILL REQUEST A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A DATE SPECIFIC UN UNSPECIFIC WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE RENO WHEN THE NEW HEARING DATE IS SELECTED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON OR OFFER COMMENTS ON? OH, THAT'S THE COMMISSION REPORTS. COMMENTS OF MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. DO WE NEED A VOTE? OH YES, I'M SORRY. I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. , COMMISSIONER ANG AYE. COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE. COMMISSIONER CASTANOS. ABSENT VICE CHAIR LEWIS? NO. CHAIR BERA. AYE. AND WE GOT A, UH, [COMMISSION REPORTS/COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS] A LOT OF RESIDENTS WITH A LOT OF GOOD POINTS REGARDING THE CONTINUANCE IN THE RADIUS. I MEAN THIS IS, BESIDES THE CONTINUANCE THAT WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA, UM, WE LEARNED QUITE A BIT, BUT LIKE, UM, THE CITY WAS SAYING THAT BY LAW WE WERE ONLY REQUIRED TO GIVE OUT THE 500 FOOT. BUT THE RESIDENTS, THEY CURRENTLY WILL ONLY BE QUIET MAILING POSTING. HOWEVER, AS A RESIDENCE, YOU CAN POST IT ON LIKE THE NEXT DOORS, THE WEST CAMINO BUS, UM, WHILE YOU'RE DOING YOUR WALK, YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE COPIES AND PASS IT OUT TO NEIGHBORS THAT YOU THINK MAY NOT BE IN THE 500 FOOT RADIUS. SO THAT ACTUALLY HELPS TO GET THE NEIGHBORS TO COME OUT NOW THAT THERE IS A POST, A SIGN, A BIG SIGN AT THE SCHOOLS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE THAT THERE WILL BE A PROJECT THAT'S COMING. BUT, UM, OR EVEN ADDRESS THAT YOU, ONE OF THE RESIDENT HAVE MENTIONED THAT THEY CAN COLLECT IT AND, AND, AND PROVIDE IT TO THE CITY STAFF THAT THEY CAN PUT IT ON SO THAT WHEN THE CONTINUANCE COME THEY CAN BE ON THAT LIST [00:50:01] TO BE MAILED OUT. SO I KNOW IT'S VERY LIMITED RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. BUT AS A RESIDENT THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU, I CAN DO BESIDES WHAT THE CITY CAN DO. ACTUALLY I THINK WE NEED TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T THINK WE NO, NO, NO. WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT OPEN ON THIS. YES. AND I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, ARE WE, IS THAT THAT COMMENT? UH, COMMISSIONER HANG UNDER THE, UH, COMMISSION REPORTS AND OR THE COMMISSIONER REPORTS AND COMMENTS? OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL BE MOVING ON. UM, YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M SORRY, , WHAT WAS, WAS YOUR COMMENT UNDER COMMISSION REPORTS AND COMMENTS? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHERE WE WERE WE, WHETHER WE WERE STILL ON THE HEARING ITEM OR HAD MOVED ON TO COMMISSION COMMENTS. BUT THE HEARING ITEM WILL BE OPEN UNTIL IT'S CONTINUED OR DO WE CLOSE IT AS OF NO, WE'VE HAD A VOTE. THE HEARING HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO A DATE. UNCERTAIN. OKAY. PERFECT. OKAY, SO NOW MOVING ON [COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT] TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT. DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS TO REPORT? UH, WELL, STAFF WANTED TO NOTE THAT, UH, TONIGHT IS, UH, COMMISSIONER REYES' FINAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER REYES FOR HIS TIME SERVICE AND VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO THE CITY. WE APPRECIATE HIS DEDICATION AND WISH HIM THE VERY BEST. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER REYES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY MUCH. AND THAT IS UP. OKAY. UM, REAL, REAL QUICK, I DID WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMISSIONER COMMENT. UM, THERE ARE TWO THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP. UM, ONE, UH, THERE WAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY, UM, REGARDING, UM, AMAZON FRESH STORES THAT ARE ALL GOING TO CLOSE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I KNOW WE HAD, UH, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A, I BELIEVE IT WAS A WINE, BEER AND SPIRITS TASTING. UM, CUP. UM, I THINK WE OUGHT TO REVISIT, UM, REVISIT THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO LONGER A TENANT THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING INTO THAT SPACE. UM, AND THEN, UH, ONE OTHER THING, UM, AS A, AS ANOTHER MOTHER MAY, I, I WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD, UH, BRING BACK THE IDEA OF, UH, NEW AND POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL, UM, NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE FRANKLY MORE MODERN. UM, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY MAKE IT FEASIBLE AND NOT A, UM, A LEGAL NIGHTMARE MOVING FORWARD FOR, UM, FOR STAFF AND, UH, AND COUNSEL. I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO EXPLORE. THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE TWO THINGS. I AGREE. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE DO GIVE THE 500, UM, RADIUS NOTIFICATION. MAYBE IF THERE'S SOMEBODY BUILDING A TWO STORY, THIS IS ACTUALLY 262 HOMES. COULD WE NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, AGENDIZE MAYBE EXPANDING THAT FOR BIG PROJECTS LIKE THIS, MAYBE TO A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. I WOULD SOLVE ALL THIS PROBLEM. I THINK . YEAH. UH, YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A REQUEST, UM, TO THE COUNCIL TO AMEND THE ZONING CODE TO INCREASE THE RADIUS. UM, TYPICAL FOR MOST JURISDICTIONS, 500 IS KIND OF THE, THE, THE NUMBER. UH, SOME JURISDICTIONS DO GO A LITTLE HIGHER. UH, BUT THAT'LL BE SET, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD. SO ALL OTHER PROJECTS REGARDING OF THE SCALE THIS WOULD INCLUDE 'CAUSE IT'S PUBLIC NOTICING FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS, IT'S PUBLIC NOTICING FOR CS AS WELL. SO IF IT'S A CUP FOR BEER AND WINE, LIKE THE AMAZON FRESH WAS, THEY'LL BE SUBJECT TO THAT SAME INCREASE IN, IN, IN NUMBERS. SO SOMEONE A THOUSAND FEET AWAY MAY NOT CARE THAT IT'S, WELL THAT'S COMMERCIAL. COULD WE MAKE IT FOR RESIDENTIAL? WE GENERALLY HAVE ONE NOTICING FOR THE ENTIRE, JUST TO KEEP THINGS CLEAR. UH, ONE NOTICING REQUIREMENT FOR ALL, ALL, UH, DISCRETIONARY APPLICATIONS. I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS. MM-HMM. IF WE, WE ALL AGREE TO SORT OF PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, MAYBE INITIATE A CODE CHANGE IF NEED BE ON THAT FRONT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. YES. THANK YOU. A FEW SHARED DISCUSSIONS, UM, REGARDING THE CODE CHANGE. OKAY. OKAY. ANYMORE THERE'S NO MORE ITEMS ON THAT REPORT. RIGHT, ARTURO? SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY [CITY COUNCIL ACTION] COUNCIL. ACTION. UH, THERE ARE NONE. I'M SORRY. UH, THERE ARE NONE. THERE'S NONE. OKAY, PERFECT. UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE FINISHED AT 7 55. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. WE HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS AT THIS TIME. AND GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.