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GOOD EVENING, REGULAR[CALL TO ORDER]
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.NOVEMBER 25TH, 2025, UH, IS IN SESSION.
WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER OR MEDITATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF COMMISSIONER HANG.
WILL LEAD US THE PLEDGE OF COMM, UH, ALLEGIANCE.
PLEASE JOIN ME WITH, FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND JUSTICE.
WILL YOU CALL ROLL? ABSOLUTELY.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
FROM THE REGULAR MEETING ON AUGUST 12TH, 2025.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? UH, COMMISSIONER CORRECTION, THOSE MINUTES ARE FROM JULY 2ND, I BELIEVE, FROM JULY 2ND.
THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
WEREN'T, WEREN'T THOSE MINUTES FROM, UH, AUGUST 12TH.
I BELIEVE THEY WERE FROM AUGUST 12TH.
THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
UM, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? YOU CAN PLEASE, UH, COME FORWARD.
IF YOU HAVEN'T FILLED OUT A PINK CARD, YOU WOULD NEED TO FILL ONE OUT.
[2. PRECISE PLAN NO. 25-02]
THE HEARINGS TONIGHT, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING ART WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT TONIGHT.CONTRACT PLANNER PAUL LAM WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 25 0 2 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 25 0 3, TREE REMOVAL, PERMIT NUMBER 25 0 3, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, DOCUMENTATION THAT ACCOMPANIES, UH, THOSE APPLICATIONS.
UM, GOOD EVENING, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, TONIGHT, UH, WE HAVE PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 25 DASH ZERO TWO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 25 DASH THREE AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT NUMBER, UH, 25 DASH UM ZERO THREE FOR THE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 2200 EAST GARVEY AVENUE SOUTH.
NOW, THE, THE PRECISE PLAN BEING REQUESTED IS TO ALLOW FOR THE REMOVAL OF ALL EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A ONE STORY 15,980 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BEING REQUESTED IS TO USE THE PROPERTY AS AN ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY FOR PERSONS 55 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER.
THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS TO REMOVE THREE SIGNIFICANT TREES FROM THE FRONT YARD OF THE PROPERTY.
THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, UH, SITE SAYS UNDER, UH, 60,500 SQUARE FEET.
UH, IT IS LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MIXED USE ZONE.
THE PROPERTY SITS IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF EAST GARVEY AVENUE SOUTH AND HOLLENBECK AVENUE.
UH, IT IS ALSO SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST, SOUTH, AND WEST, AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST.
UM, THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY.
IT IS A VACANT ONE STORY, UH, 13,780 FEET SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL RESTAURANT BUILDING, UH, FORMERLY KNOWN AS, UH, VIA TEAK.
UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING WILL BE LOCATED AT THE WEST HALF OF THE SITE, AND THE SURFACE PARKING LOT WITH 61 PARKING SPACES WILL BE LOCATED AT THE EAST HALF OF THE SITE.
61 IS THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED BY THE CODE TAKEN TO ACCOUNT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND PARTICIPANTS, UM, ON THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT ANTICIPATES THAT NOT ALL 61 SPACES
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WILL BE NEEDED, AS MOST OF THE PARTICIPANTS WILL UTILIZE FACILITY PROVIDED VANS FOR TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM THE SITE.UH, THERE WILL BE TWO ACCESS POINTS TO THE PROPERTY, UH, ONE DRIVEWAY.
AND, AND THESE ARE, UH, DENOTED ON THE SITE PLAN BY THE RED ARROWS.
UH, ONE DRIVEWAY IS ALONG EAST GARVEY AVENUE, AND THE OTHER IS ALONG SOUTH HOLLENBECK AVENUE.
UH, NOW THIS IS A, UH, SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED SITE PLANS.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, UH, THAT THEY, THEY'RE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR IN REGARD TO THE BUILDING PLACEMENT.
THE RED ARROWS, UM, DEPICT THE SITE ACCESS POINTS.
UH, THE SITE PRESENTLY HAS, UH, TWO DRIVEWAYS ON, UH, THE EAST GARVEY AVENUE SOUTH FRONTAGE, WHICH BOTH PROVIDE INGRESS AND EGRESS.
UM, AND THERE'S ONE DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH HOLLENBECK AVENUE FRONTAGE THAT IS AN EXIT ONLY.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL ELIMINATE ONE OF THE ENTRANCES ON THE EAST GARVEY AVENUE SOUTH FRONTAGE, LEAVING THE PROPERTY WITH ONLY ONE ACCESS POINT ON EACH STREET FRONTAGE.
THE REMAINING EAST GARVEY AVENUE SOUTH FRONTAGE ACCESS POINT WILL STILL PROVIDE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE SITE, AND THE, AND THE SOUTH HOLLENBECK AVENUE ACCESS POINT WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN EXIT ONLY.
UM, I DO WANT TO POINT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE EXISTING SITE PLAN, UM, AND THE THREE, UM, THREE YELLOW CIRCLES.
THESE CIRCLES IDENTIFY THE, THE THREE TREES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
UH, THESE TREES ARE ALL PALM TREES WITH HEIGHTS OF 20 FEET, 30 FEET AND 40 FEET.
UM, THE BUSINESS WILL BE ORIGINALLY, UH, ORIENTED PACE CENTER OFFERING COMMUNITY BASED SERVICES AND MEDICAL CARE SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS AGE 55 AND OLDER.
UH, PACE IS AN ACRONYM FOR PROGRAM OF ALL INCLUSIVE CARE FOR THE ELDERLY AND IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM SPONSORED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH MEDICARE TO ENABLE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE AT RISK OF MOVING INTO NURSING HOMES TO CONTINUE TO LIVE SAFELY IN THEIR HOMES AND COMMUNITIES.
THIS, THE, THIS FACILITY WILL PROVIDE A VARIETY OF MEDICAL AND SOCIAL SERVICES ON SITE.
UH, MEDICAL SERVICES WILL INCLUDE DENTAL, WORK, PODIATRY, AND VISION CARE.
UH, PHYSICAL, OCCUPATIONAL AND SPEECH THERAPY IS ALSO PROVIDED, UH, PERSONAL CARE CONSISTING OF HAIR AND NAIL CARE WILL BE PROVIDED.
ALSO, UH, ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WILL BE PROVIDED CONSISTING OF MUSIC AND CULTURAL EVENTS, GAMES, GROUP EXERCISES, AND SOCIAL EVENTS.
COUNSELING SERVICES WILL INCLUDE NUTRITIONAL COUNSELING CONNECTIONS, UH, OR PROVIDING PARTICIPANTS WITH CONNECTIONS WITH COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES.
UH, PRE-COOKED MEALS WILL BE PROVIDED AND CONSUMED ON PREMISES.
THE FACILITY WILL HAVE 80 EMPLOYEES, BUT NO MORE THAN 40 EMPLOYEES WILL BE ON THE SITE AT ANY ONE TIME.
THE OTHER 40 EMPLOYEES WILL EITHER BE WORKING, UM, AT THE PARTICIPANTS' HOMES, UH, WORK REMOTELY AT HOME, OR WORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, THERE'LL BE A MAXIMUM 100 PARTICIPANTS ON THE PROPERTY AT ANY ONE TIME.
UM, THERE WILL BE A MIN, UH, THERE WILL BE AN AM SESSION, WHICH OCCURS FROM EIGHT 30 TO 12:30 AM OR PM I'M SORRY, AND A PM SESSION THAT RUNS FROM 1:00 PM TO 4:30 PM THE CENTER WILL BE OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAYS AND NOT ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, HERE IS A, UM, A FLOOR PLAN OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY AND, UM, UH, THE DIFFERENT, UH, PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING HAVE BEEN COLOR CODED TO, UH, PROVIDE VISUAL CLARITY TO THEIR FUNCTIONS.
UM, AND, UM, IF YOU LOOK ALONG THE TOP, THE PEACH COLOR AREA, THAT'S THE DINING AND DAY ROOM SPACE.
UH, MOVING TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, THE PURPLE COLOR IS THE PERSONAL CARE.
AND THEN, UH, THE YELLOW SPACE NEXT TO THAT IS ADMINISTRATION.
UH, THAT LAVENDER SPACE DOWN THE MIDDLE, THAT'S THE GREAT ROOM.
UM, AND THEN DOWN BELOW, UH, THAT PISTACHIO COLOR AREA IS THE MEDICAL CLINIC.
UH, THE, THE BLACK BLUE AREA IS THE THERAPY AND REHABILITATION SPACE.
THE GRAY AREA IS BUILDING SUPPORT.
UM, THEN THE, UM, THE DULL GREEN, GREEN AREA STAFF SUPPORT.
UM, UM, AND, UM, THE FRONT ENTRY TO THE BUILDING IS DENOTED BY THE RED ARROW ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF, UM, OF THAT FLOOR PLAN.
UM, THIS IS, UH, AN THE ELEVATION VIEW OF THE MAIN ENTRY.
THIS IS ON THE EAST ELEVATION.
AND NOW, UH, AS FAR AS BUILDING HEIGHT, AT THE HIGHEST POINT, THE BUILDING WOULD BE 25 FEET TALL, AND THIS IS TO THE TOP OF THE RIDGE OF THAT GABLED ENTRY ELEMENT.
UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE LOWER FLAT ROOF PORTION OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE 19 FEET.
UH, THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS A VIEW FROM, UH, EAST GARVEY AVENUE SOUTH.
THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION, AND THIS IS, UH, WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTIES, UH, BUDDING THE SOUTH WOULD BE VIEWING.
AND THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION, UM, FROM SOUTH HOLLENBECK AVENUE.
UM, THIS HERE IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND, UM, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER
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WILL BE PROVIDED ALONG ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.UH, THE GRAY HATCHED AREAS ON THE PLANS REPRESENT GROUND COVER THAT WILL CONSIST OF A VARIETY OF ONE TO FIVE GALLON FLOWERS, SHRUBS, AND GRASSES.
THE SITE WILL ALSO BE PLANTED WITH A TOTAL OF 31 TREES.
THE PLANTER SIZE OF THESE TREES WILL VARY FROM APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET TO EIGHT FEET.
WITH THIS PLAN, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 DASH 61 72, 61, 73, AND 61 74, APPROVING PRECISE PLANS.
NUM, PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 25 DASH ZERO TWO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 25 DASH ZERO THREE, AND TREE RE REMOVAL, PERMIT NUMBER 25 DASH ZERO THREE.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, UH, EITHER OF US, UM, PLEASE LET, DON'T THANK YOU.
A UH, NOW WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THIS THANKSGIVING WEEK FOR MEETING WITH US.
I WANT TO THANK STAFF ALL AND EVERYBODY FOR THE HELP OF THIS PROJECT OVER THE PAST YEAR.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
FINALLY, UM, I'M REALLY HERE JUST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND I DID WANT TO DISCUSS TWO OF THE CONDITIONS.
UM, IN PARTICULAR, IT HAD TO DO WITH ATTACHMENT TO THE CUP, UM, COA REGARDING THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
AND INITIALLY THE FACILITY WILL BE OPERATING TILL 4:30 PM BUT THESE FACILITIES ARE SO POPULAR, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING POSSIBLY A THIRD SHIFT DOWN THE ROAD IN TWO OR THREE YEARS THAT MAY TAKE THE HOURS TO SIX.
AND INSTEAD OF COMING BACK AND REVISITING THIS TWO, THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD JUST EXTEND THE OPERATING HOURS INSTEAD OF 4:30 PM TO 6:00 PM.
UM, THE OTHER ISSUE WAS THE CONDITION THAT THERE'D BE NO OVERNIGHT PARKING WITH THE VANS.
AND THAT JUST CAUSES AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES SERVICE THE HOMES AND PEOPLE PICK UP THE FOLKS IN THE VANS, BUT AT NIGHT THEY DON'T TAKE THEM HOME.
AND, UM, THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD SEEN THIS CONDITION WAS WHEN WE RECEIVED THE STAFF SUPPORT.
SO I DON'T SAY SURPRISED US, BUT WE WERE ANTICIPATING THAT, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE VANS PARKED THERE OVERNIGHT.
AND, UH, FOR OUR STAFF, UH, THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY.
UM, SO JUST ON THOSE TWO POINTS, AS FAR AS EXTENDING THE HOURS OF OPERATION, I, UH, AT LEAST FROM MY SEAT, WOULD'VE NO PROBLEM ALLOWING THAT IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AGREE.
BUT REGARDING THE OVERNIGHTS PARKING, OVERNIGHT PARKING, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T OR SHOULDN'T ALSO CONSIDER THAT OVERNIGHT PARKING? YOU MEAN FOR LIKE THE VANS? CORRECT.
HOW MANY VANS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? UM, HOW MANY? FIVE.
OH, I THINK WHETHER IT'S FIVE OR 10 OR 15 OR YEAH.
IT'S JUST OPERATE MUCH MATERIAL IMPACT.
IT'S FOR, AND THAT'S FOR PICKING UP THE, THE PATIENTS AND, AND YEAH.
THE PARTICIPANTS DROPPING 'EM OFF AND TAKING 'EM HOME.
WHAT WERE THE HOURS OF THE SECOND SHIFT? UH, THE SECOND SHIFT, THEY WOULD CHANGE 'EM AROUND, BUT IT COULD POSSIBLY RUN UNTIL 6:00 PM RIGHT NOW, IT'LL BE OPERATING FROM EIGHT TO 4:30 PM SO THERE, THERE ARE NO MEDIA PLANS TO EXTEND IT.
BUT, UM, TRACK RECORD, THEY HAVE BEEN GROWING SO FAST, THEY'VE BEEN ADDING THAT THIRD SHIFT THAT EXTENDS THE OPERATION TILL SIX.
AND AGAIN, WE COULD CERTAINLY COME BACK DOWN THE ROAD, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE, I THINK IF, IF I MAY, DID YOU MEAN THE SECOND, UH, YOU MEAN 1:00 PM TO 4:30 PM IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT? THE RIGHT, I, OH, I'M SORRY.
SO WHAT THAT IS, IS PARTICIPANTS COME IN FOR CERTAIN BLOCKS OF TIME, AND THE SECOND GROUP IS FROM ONE TO 4:30 PM AND THEN YOU WERE SAYING THE, THE, TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF A THIRD OVERLAPPING ONE, THAT HOWEVER, WHENEVER IT BEGINS, IT WOULD END AT SIX, CORRECT? YES.
SO NORMALLY EACH SHIFT IS ABOUT TWO HOURS.
WOULD YOU SAY THE PARTICIPANTS ARE AT THE FACILITY FOR FOUR HOUR BLOCKS? SO IT, IT MAY, THEY MAY CHANGE THEM OR OVERLAP THEM, BUT WHEN THEY DO GO TO A THIRD SHIFT, SOMETIMES THEY DO OPERATE TILL SIX AND ALL PARTICIPANTS ARE BEING PICKED UP FROM, THEY HAVE THE OPTION, UM, TO DRIVE, BUT 90 PLUS PERCENT OR ALWAYS PARTICIPATE IN THE TRANSPORTATION.
SOMETIMES A FAMILY MEMBER MAY DRIVE 'EM, SO FORTH.
SO EACH SHIFT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HAVING A HUNDRED
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PARTICIPANTS MAXIMUM.SO POTENTIALLY YOU CAN HAVE 300, NO, NOT WITH THREE SHIFT, NO, THERE WOULD NEVER BE MORE THAN A HUNDRED PARTICIPANTS OPERATING AT A TIME.
YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE THREE SHIFTS GOING AT ONCE.
WITH THREE, YOU'LL HAVE 100 IN THE MORNING GROUP AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON GROUP, AND THEY MAY EXTEND THOSE HOURS.
I, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO EXACTLY HOW IT FALLS, BUT THE MAXIMUM THEY EVER HAVE, IS THAT A HUNDRED AT A TIME? WHEN YOU MEAN EXTENDING THE HOUR, IS THAT A COMPLETELY NEW SHIFT OR IS IT JUST EXTENDING FOR THE SECOND GROUPS TO HAVE ALL THE WAY TO SIX O'CLOCK? IT W COULD BE EX E EITHER ONE, BUT AGAIN, THERE WOULD NOT BE THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS OF RESIDENTS COMING IN.
PROBABLY BE EXTENDING THE TIMES OR THE BREAKS IN BETWEEN OR OTHER FACILITIES.
AND ON AVERAGE, I YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED ON THE PROGRAM THAT'S HAD TO BE 55 AND OLDER, BUT ON AVERAGE, WHAT AGE ARE WE LOOKING AT? 70.
SO ON AVERAGE, YOU MOST PATIENTS OR PARTICIPANTS ARE AT LEAST 70.
AND THEY NEED TO BE THERE FOR FOUR HOURS.
IS THAT FOR EVERY SE SEC SESSION OR SE? CORRECT.
AND DURING THOSE FOUR HOURS, UH, AGAIN, I MEAN WE, WE HEARD ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING AT THE FACILITY, BUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE, I GUESS WHAT ARE THE SERVICES THAT ARE NORMAL FOR MOST OF THEM? YEAH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD COME TO THE MIC.
THAT WAY UP YOU CAN BE ABLE TO SPEAK, BUT I COULD HELP WITH THAT ALSO, IF I MAY.
SO IT'S REGULAR MEDICAL CARE, LIKE DOCTOR'S VISITS, PHYSICAL THERAPY AND OPERATION AND OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY.
SO FOR A LOT OF THESE PATIENTS, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THAT AGE RANGE AND, AND ALSO FOR THE REASON THAT THEY NEED THE RIDES IS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE KNEE, HIPS, WALKING ISSUES.
SO THINK IT'S KIND OF THAT POPULATION.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY SAID THEY HAD AN ADMINISTRATIVE CORNER, UH, DINING HALL AND, UH, WELL THEN I'LL LET YOU GUYS FINISH.
SO THE SERVICE OF PROVIDING TO THOSE SENIORS IS REALLY BASED ON THE CONDITION.
SO PACE PROGRAM IS PROVIDING, UH, CENTERED CARE AND THEN BASED ON PARTICIPANT CONDITION, OUR CARE TEAM, INCLUDING PHYSICIANS, NURSE PRACTITIONER, WILL BUILD UP A CARE PLAN FOR THOSE PARTICIPANTS AND IT'S INCLUDING ALL THE SERVICES THEY NEED IT.
UM, MAYBE PHYSICAL THERAPISTS, MAYBE PCP VISITS, MAYBE EVEN JUST LIKE, UH, SOCIAL WORK, CONSULTING, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, ET CETERA.
ALL THE SERVICES BASED ON THEIR NEEDS.
AND THEY WILL PROVIDED THOSE SERVICES DURING THE, OUR, THE SPENDING AT THE CENTER.
SO EV THEY EVERYTHING THAT THEIR CARE PLAN'S ALREADY SCHEDULED FROM THE TIME THEY WALK IN THE DOOR? YEAH.
OH, IT'S LIKE A DAY AT THE SPA
WE HAVE LIKE FOR JUST A DAILY, WHAT THE DAY LOOKS LIKE FOR THE PARTICIPANTS.
THEY COME IN BY OUR TRANSPORTATION, THEY'LL SERVE WITH MEALS, PRE COOKED MEALS, AND THEN GET 'EM READY AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A SCHEDULE SCHEDULED APPOINTMENT FOR THEM WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.
SOUNDS LIKE A VERY GOOD PROGRAM.
SO THIS IS, UH, IT'S NOT INSURANCE, IT'S, IT'S GOVERNMENTAL ME, MEDICARE, MEDICAL.
WE'RE SERVING, MAJORITY OF OUR PARTIES ARE SERVING AS, UH, EITHER WITH MEDICARE OR MEDICAL WITH BOTH OF THEM.
AND THIS IS A PLACE THAT WE ARE COVERING ALL THEIR MEDICAL EXPENSES.
IF PARTICIPANTS BECOME PART OF OUR PROGRAMS, WE BECOME THEIR INSURANCE TO PROVIDE, TO COVER ALL THE MEDICAL EXPENSES THAT MAY NEED.
SO WE COVER FOR THEIR PHYSICIAN VISITS, WE COVER THEIR MEDICATIONS AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE ALL COVERED BY US AND PROVIDED BY US.
SO NOT EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE, UH, OVER 55 YEARS OLD.
ANYONE ON MEDICARE, BASICALLY.
THERE IS A PROCESS TO HELP OUR PERSONALLY JOIN THE PROGRAM.
SO IN SHORT IS WE'LL CONDUCT A PRE-ENROLLMENT ASSESSMENT TO SEE PARTICIPANTS' NEEDS AND SUBMIT THOSE INFORMATION TO THE STATE HCS FOR THEM TO HAVE THE FINAL APPROVAL.
SO THE APPROVAL FOR SENIORS ENROLLMENT TERM PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY DONE BY THE STATE.
SO YOU'RE REGULATED BY THE STATE AS WELL, REGULARLY BY THE STATE? STATE AND FEDS BOTH, YEAH, BOTH FEDERAL LEVEL AND STATE LEVEL.
AND ARE THEY ALL HMOS OR ARE THEY STRAIGHT MEDI MEIS? SO IT'S ACTUALLY, WE HAVE OUR OWN OWN NETWORK OF PROVIDERS AND, UH, ALL THE SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN OUR OWN NETWORK.
SO HMO, UH, BASICALLY DOES OPERATES AT THE OKAY.
AND WHO IS THE IPA? DO YOU GUYS KNOW? UMM, NOT SURE.
IT'S IMMATERIAL, BUT USUALLY WHEN IT'S HMO, THERE'S AN IPA BY DEFAULT.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, I'M GOING OFF TOPIC.
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YEAH.WHAT, WHAT GOT ME JUST, I STARTED WORKING WITH OKE SEVEN YEARS AGO,
THAT'S WHAT I JUST LOVE ABOUT IT.
WE ALREADY HAVE ONE IN TOWN AND THE SECOND ONE BEING BUILT, AND THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD AS FAR AS I KNOW.
YEAH, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DEMAND OUT THERE.
I'M, I'M JUST TWO YEARS AWAY FROM SIGNING UP.
EVERYBODY HERE CAN ALREADY 63, BUT
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR.
I I HAVE A, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
UM, THERE WAS A, A QUESTION FOR STAFF THAT I DON'T THINK EVER GOT ANSWERED.
THING I, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE TOUCH ON THAT.
UM, DO YOU, DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND I'LL YIELD IT, I'LL YIELD TO YOU FOR A SECOND ON THAT.
THE, THE, YEAH, THE QUESTION WAS JUST, I MEAN, ON TIME, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CONCERN FOR EXTENDING TILL SIX, BUT JUST ABOUT THE PARKING, IS THERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, HISTORICAL, UH, PRECEDENT FOR MAKING THAT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL? OR WOULD STAFF HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO US REMOVING THAT, UM, PROVISION TO ALLOW THEM TO PARK THE VANS? YEAH.
HISTORICALLY WE DON'T ALLOW OVERNIGHT PARKING ON SITES.
UM, I, I'LL LEAVE, I'LL DEFAULT TO, TO PAUL TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE MORE SO WE CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN HIS THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN HE WAS ANALYZING THE PARKING.
A AS DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF CERVANTES, UH, MENTIONED, YES.
UM, STUDY HISTORICALLY DOES NOT ALLOW OVERNIGHT PARKING.
PLUS THIS WILL ALL BE CONSISTENT WITH A CONDITION APPROVAL ON ONE OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, ADULT DAYCARE FACILITIES.
MY, MY QUESTION IS, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY HAVE BEEN SPREADING OUT.
THAT WAS PROBABLY DONE WITHOUT CITY'S CONSENT.
SO WE'RE SPEAKING ON AN ITEM THAT THAT CITY HAD NO, UH, SO THAT PERMIT, THEY, THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN SOME TYPE OF USE PERMIT THAT.
SO I, I HAD, UH, I HAD A QUESTION.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR STAFF OR FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF FENCING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IS THERE ANY FENCING AROUND THE FACILITY WHATSOEVER? UH, OTHER THAN JUST THE BACK, THERE'S BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S A SIX FOOT C MALL, BUT NO, BESIDES THE A OKAY.
I, I, I THINK, I THINK THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THE, THE, THE REDESIGNED LOCATION OF, OF THIS NEW BUILDING IS GOING TO BASICALLY CREATE AN ALLEY THAT'S, THAT'S BETWEEN THE, THE NEW BUILDING AND THEN THE, THE FOUR PARCELS OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT ARE BACK THERE.
UM, THE CONCERN I HAVE, JUST BECAUSE THAT AREA IS KIND OF AN ISLAND FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, THERE'S REALLY NO ONE AROUND TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT.
SO I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT SORT OF THE ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE ASPECT OF THAT.
UM, DON'T WANNA SEE ANYTHING GO ON BACK THERE.
UM, THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE FOR, FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, INADVERTENTLY, AND I, I I, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS SORT OF A, A THOUGHT.
DO YOU HAVE, DID YOU CONSIDER POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PUTTING FENCING TO CLOSE OFF THAT AREA AFTER HOURS? UM, AND PERHAPS IF YOU DID, WE COULD MAYBE DESIGNATE THAT AS A, UM, AS A PARKING AREA FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR VANS OVERNIGHT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
WE DID LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND OBVIOUSLY FIRST THING WE THINK ABOUT SECURITY LIGHTING, BUT YOU HAVE RESIDENTS THERE.
SO WE WANNA IMPEDE ON THEIR PRIVACY.
UM, SO YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASY TO PUT A GATE ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT DRIVE AISLE.
THAT THAT MIGHT BE A GREAT SOLUTION.
IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE WILLING TO DO AS, AS A CON, AS A POTENTIAL CONDITION IN, IN ORDER TO MAYBE MAKE THE PARKING SITUATION WORK OVERNIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR YOU.
I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN REGARDING THE THIRD SHIFT.
I GUESS IT'S FINE IF IT'S AT FOUR 30, MOST TRAFFIC WILL BE, OR DRIVERS OR THE 80 CARS THAT'S GONNA BE THERE.
IT'S GONNA BE GONE BY THE END OF THE DAY BEFORE ALL THE RESIDENTS COME BACK.
HOWEVER, IF IT'S AT SIX O'CLOCK OR SIX PAST SIX, UM, IT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LIGHTS, IT'S GONNA BE SHINING TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS BACKYARD OR SIDE YARD.
I'M NOT SURE OF HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT.
'CAUSE BY SIX O'CLOCK AT CERTAIN TIME OF THE YEARS, IT DOES GET DARKER.
AND I'M SORRY, WHICH LIGHTS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? CAR LIGHTS THAT MIGHT BE DRIVING IN THE PARKING AREA THAT MIGHT, UH, THE, SURROUNDED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
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UH, RESIDENTIAL AREA.I'M NOT SURE IF THAT LIGHT'S GONNA SHINE INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S.
UM, THERE, THERE IS A SIX FOOT WALL THAT'S THERE TOO.
AND AGAIN, I, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, THIS OP RESTAURANT'S BEEN OPERATING SINCE 1954.
I THINK THEY'D BE VERY HAPPY WITH REDUCED TRAFFIC OVERALL, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
WHAT RADIUS DO YOU, WILL YOU BE SERVICING? WAS IT JUST WEST AREA OR HOW, HOW FAR OUT? SPEAK TO THE DELIVERY.
THE SERVICE AREA ACTUALLY WILL BE FINE BY THE STATE THAT BE ASSIGNED TO US.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU, THE SERVICE AREA THAT WE ARE GONNA SERVE IS ACTUALLY BEING DEFINED BY THE STATE THAT WILL BE ISSUED TO US, LIKE TO DETERMINE WHICH SERVICE, WHICH AREA, THE ZIP COAST THAT WE CAN SERVE THE PERSON WITH.
SO AT THIS MOMENT, I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION YET.
IS IT NORMALLY LIKE A RADIUS OF, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? A FEW MILES, 10 MILES OR, YEAH, 30 MINUTES OF TIME.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? AND THAT THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
TECHNICAL STUDIES WERE, THEY ALWAYS ARE.
'CAUSE THERE IS A, I I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY PROBABLY CLOSED THAT DRIVEWAY AND PUT IT FURTHER OUT JUST 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE A HAZARD OF SOMEBODY PULLING OUT AND MIGHT, YOU KNOW, GETTING HIT BY SOMEBODY TURNING.
UM, IS ANYONE IN FAVOR WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? ANYONE OPPOSED IN FAVOR? UH, I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT NOW, BUT, UH, SEEMS LIKE A GOOD FACILITY.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD BRING TO LIGHT WITH THE OVERNIGHT PARKING IS THAT, UH, NOW AT SIX OR 7:00 AM TRUCKS ARE GONNA BE STARTING BACKUP BEEPS.
YOU KNOW, REVERSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE OPTING.
SO JUST TO MAKE THAT NOTE TO THE NEIGHBORS, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
UH, BUT THE FACILITY OF ITSELF LOOKING AT IT LOOKS GREAT.
UM, THAT'S THE ONLY MARKS I REALLY GOT.
ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
I'LL OPEN THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION.
WELL, UM, YEAH, AS FAR AS THE EXTENDING OF THE HOURS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, IF, YOU KNOW, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AGREE, UM, I THINK, UH, ANY KIND OF, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE.
UM, I BASED THAT ON PAST TRAFFIC STUDIES AND SEEING THE NUMBERS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE PARKING, I WOULD SAY THE SOLUTION COMMISSIONER LEWIS SUGGESTED COULD BE VIABLE.
I, I WOULD SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT AS LONG AS FIRE DEPARTMENT IS AS WELL.
UM, AND, UH, ASIDE FROM THAT, I THINK, UM, IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.
I MEAN, A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT, UH, VIA TE X NOT, HASN'T BEEN THERE IN A LONG TIME, BUT WE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT HERE.
ANYONE ELSE? WELL, I'D LIKE TO MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE MODIFICATION OF THE GATES FOR THE PARKING.
AND, AND MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY JUST, UH, BRIEFLY, AS PART OF ANY MOTION TO APPROVE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ADD A CONDITION THAT WOULD READ, UM, AS FOLLOWS, THE APPLICANT SHALL HOLD AND MAINTAIN ALL APPLICABLE STATE LICENSES FOR OPERATION OF THE ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY DURING THE TERM OF THIS PERMIT.
IF YOU COULD JUST INCLUDE THAT IN YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND, AND JUST TO CONFIRM, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, AMEND THE HOURS UNTIL 6:00 PM AND THEN WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE PARKING TO ALLOW FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING.
IS THERE AN AMOUNT OF VEHICLES? SAY I, I WOULD, IF MAYBE SO BOLD, I WOULD SAY LET'S START WITH FIVE OR 10 VANS.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? SO I I, I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I HAD IN MIND IS TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY CAN FIT IT, UM, BEHI WHAT IS BASICALLY THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT? IF, IF THE FRONTAGE IS ON, ON GARVEY AVENUE, RIGHT, THE, THE LENGTH OF THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE THE AREA, SO LONG AS IT'S GATED OFF, UM, IN THE EVENING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SEE IT, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE PROPOSAL THAT I HAD IN MIND.
AND YOU CAN FIT WHATEVER NUMBER OF VEHICLES YOU CAN FIT IN THERE.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REVERSING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY HAVE TO FACE THE EXIT WHEN THEY PARK.
THAT WOULD BE THE CONDITION THAT I WOULD PROPOSE AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT,
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RIGHT? BECAUSE THEN IF WE, IF THEY DO GO BEYOND ANY NUMBER 10, THEN WE'D BE BACK HERE AGAIN AND JUST CAUSE THEM RIGHT.WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT CHANGE.
AND THEN I WOULD ADD THAT THOSE VEHICLES HAVE TO BE TIED DIRECTLY TO THIS SERVICE FACILITY AND NOT AS A STAGING SITE FOR, FOR OTHER, UM, AND YOU MENTIONED YOU WANTED THE FENCING AROUND THE PERIMETER.
I THINK, UM, OUR CODE DOES ALLOW UP TO A SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE PROVIDED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, OR IS THAT NO LONGER NOT THE PERIMETER, JUST GATING BEHIND HERE.
I WAS GONNA SAY PERHAPS IF YOU PULL UP THE, THE OVERVIEW, I CAN, I CAN POINT IT OUT TO YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT I MEAN, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A FENCE AROUND THE ENTIRETY OF IT.
YEAH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EXIT.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, THE BACKSIDE, THE, THE EXIT BASICALLY THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S GATED ON, ON EACH SIDE.
SO THAT'D BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, BASICALLY A, A GATE THAT GOES REC REC, YEAH, BASICALLY LIKE A RECTANGLE BACK THERE THAT COVERS THAT SORT OF ALLEY DRIVEWAY THAT FOR THE EXIT ONLY PORTION.
WE'LL WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE'LL TAKE YOUR, UM, YOU'RE TALKING FROM THAT CORNER THAT WAY AND, UH, RIGHT THERE.
IF, IF WE HAD SOMETHING TO LIKE A POINTER OR SOMETHING, IT'D BE EASY.
IF, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT ME TO WALK UP THERE AND CLARIFY, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT.
ARE YOU TALKING FOR MIKE? OKAY.
I'M, I'M JUST GONNA WALK UP AND I'LL, I'LL JUST DEMONSTRATE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
IS THERE A WALL HERE ON YOU CAN'T JUST GATE, WALL.
MAKE SENSE? DO THAT ONE MORE TIME.
DEPENDING ON WHAT IS MOST RIGHT AROUND HERE IS RIGHT AROUND HERE.
IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM BACK THERE OR? ABSOLUTELY.
SO THOSE VEHICLES WOULDN'T BE THERE DURING BUSINESS? CORRECT.
SO THE ENTIRELY THE ENTIRE BUILDING LENGTH, HOW LONG IS THAT BUILDING? AND IF THEY WANTED FIVE CARS, 10 CARS, I MEAN, HOW ARE THEY GONNA, HOW MANY WOULD FIT BACK THERE? A LOT? MM-HMM
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW LONG THAT BUILDING IS AT? I IT'S IN THE PLAN.
IT DIDN'T HAVE THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING SEE IT? 80, 60 TO UH, MIGHT I RECOMMEND THAT WE GET A NUMBER FROM THE APPLICANT AND IF HE SAYS FIVE CARS BACK UP, PLEASE, THEN DON'T WE LIMIT IT TO THOSE I NEED TO OPEN.
IT'S A HUNDRED EIGHTY, A HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT FEET LONG.
SO IF YOU WERE TO SQUEEZE IT, YOU CAN BARELY GET 12 VEHICLES TO STACK BUMPER TO BUMPER ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
AND, AND ON TOP OF THAT, THAT DRIVEWAY IS 30 FEET WIDE.
SO YOU COULD DOUBLE STACK IT TOO IF YOU WANTED TO.
YES, THAT DOES WORK FOR THE APPLICANT.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT FOR US.
AND ALSO YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEW THIS AND COMMENT AB ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS TOTALLY CONTINGENT ON FIRE APPROVING THIS PLAN MODIFICATION.
WE HAVE A SECOND REAL, REAL QUICK, MADAM CHAIR.
IF WE CAN JUST REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE WANTS TO COMMENT ON THE DISCUSSION.
I, I WOULD, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE SINCE WE HAD THE APPLICANT COME BACK, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS ANY OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS? UH, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING I THINK WOULD BLOCK THE FIRE, UH, DEPARTMENT'S ACCESS TO THE REAR OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
UM, THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE OF WHAT BEING PROPOSED.
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THERE WAS ALSO MENTION OF, UM, UH, SOMEBODY MENTIONED IS THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET, IS THAT ALSO BEING PART OF THIS OR NOT? IT APPEARS FROM THE PLANS.AND JUST, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? THIS GENTLEMEN.
OKAY, THE QUESTIONS I HAVE WAS, UH, THE HOURS OF DEMOLITION WHEN IT ARE DOWN THE RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPERTY GONNA BE THE, THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THAT GOES ALONG THE BACK OF MY PROPERTY.
THEN THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THAT GOES BEHIND MY PROPERTY.
ARE YOU GUYS GONNA BE TOUCHING THAT WALL OR, 'CAUSE IT'S COLLAPSING, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING.
YEAH, MOST OF THE, THE HOUSES ALONG THAT, THAT FACE TO BACK OF THE PROPERTY, THAT RETAINING WALL IS FALLING OVER.
SO, I DON'T KNOW, ARE YOU GUYS GONNA BE TOUCHING AS A, I'M SORRY.
CAN YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND THEN HE'LL COME UP AFTER AND HE'LL AND THE MIC ADDRESS IT BECAUSE THAT, SO THE VIDEO CAPTURES YOUR VOICE.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS THE DEMO.
I WAS A DEMOLITION 'CAUSE I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S, MY WIFE WORKS FROM HOME.
AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND ONE IS THERE'S THE RETAINING WALL BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OUR PROPERTY LINE OR THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
AND IT'S COLLAPSING, YOU KNOW, IT'S TILTING.
SO ARE THEY GONNA BE TOUCHING OR ADDRESSING THAT WALL? SO YOU WANT THEM TO FIX, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THEIR SIDE OR JUST MAKING THEM AWARE THAT THE WALL BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY OR THEIR PROPERTY, I THINK I IF BELONGS TO THEM OR US, IT'S COLLAPSING AND FALLING ONTO THEIR PROPERTY ON THEIR SIDE THROUGH THE CHAIR.
IF I MAY, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND WHAT WE COULD DO AS CITY STAFF, IF YOU COULD REACH OUT AND TOUCH BASE ON HOW WE COULD ASSIST THERE, WE COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING CONSTRUCTION NOW OR WHEN YOU CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY ANYONE ELSE? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE APPLICANT TO, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS PLEASE? I, I THINK THE, THE FIRE ACCESS IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.
UM, WHAT IF WE JUST PUT A FENCE UP ON BOTH DRIVEWAYS AND JUST SECURE THAT I FIRST THOUGHT WOULD OH, THERE YOU GO.
SAY, BUT, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, IF WE JUST FENCED OFF THE DRIVEWAYS AND SECURED IT THE PARKING LOT, I, I THINK FROM MY SEAT, I I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.
I, AND I WOULD ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GUYS GET A CHANCE, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY WOULD SAY WOULD MAKES THE MOST SENSE AND WOULD FACILITATE.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE KEY FOBS TO OPEN ANY GATES, BUT STILL, I THINK YEAH, WITHOUT, AND THEIR INPUT WOULD BE VERY WELCOME AND JUST REGARDED THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
WE, WE DID INQUIRE ABOUT IT, PICKING THAT UP AND THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING IT AT, AT A NUMBER THAT MAKES SENSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH IT REGARD.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, THE DEMOLITION, I'M SORRY, WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM WHAT WE CAN ANSWER, I'M SORRY.
7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM STAFF, STAFF CAN ANSWER IS WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS.
THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CONSTRUCTION OR DEMOLITION YOU CAN DO AT 8:00 PM BUT UM, IS, UH, IS THE PUBLIC IS A HEARING IS OH, ONE OF OUR GCS HAPPENS TO BE HERE AND REALISTICALLY THEY'RE NOT WORKING PAST FOUR OR FIVE
I MEAN, JUST PART OF MOST CONSTRUCTION SITES ARE LIKE THAT AND THEY'RE NOT BANGING NONSTOP.
SO THANK, BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW THAT.
SO NOW WE HAVE A, A MOTION, BUT CAN YOU, UM, ACTUALLY I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE WALL ISSUES.
UM, THE CURRENT RETAINING WALL OR THE SIX FOOT WALL SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY THAT IS, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
I'M NOT SURE IF ONE OF THEM IS FALLING OR LEANING, WHETHER IT'S TOWARD YOUR PROPERTY OR TOWARD THEIR PROPERTY.
SO YEAH, I GAVE THE GENTLEMAN MY CARD AND TOLD HIM WE'D LOOK INTO IT.
SO OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S RETAINING WALLS FAILING, IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST LEAVE IT UNADRESSED.
I, I I ALSO LIKE TO SEE IF IT, THAT, THAT WHOLE WALL AREA BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL, I'M NOT SURE HOW DATED IT IS.
MOST BLOCK WALLS ARE NOT IN ISSUES.
HOWEVER, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND PERHAPS HAVE A CONDITION THAT, THAT ENTIRELY OF THE WALL BETWEEN THE RESIDENT'S HOME AND THE BUSINESSES MAYBE LOOKED AT IT AND MAKE SURE ALL THAT AREA GETS FIXED.
I'M NOT SURE ALL AREAS GET LEANED.
JUST, MAYBE IT'S JUST ONLY A SECTIONS THAT SIX FOOT WIDE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT IF IT IS NOT WORKING PROPERLY, IF IT'S DATED, MAYBE PERHAPS YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THAT WOULD BE, I MAKE SURE IT'S WELL MAINTAINED.
'CAUSE YEAH, WE'RE GONNA WANT IT.
THEY'RE GONNA WANT IT TAKEN CARE
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OF.AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION, I KNOW DEMO IS ONLY FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, BUT, UM, DEMOLITION NORMALLY TAKES A WEEK OR TWO.
UH, NO PROJECT THIS SIZE LOOKS PROBABLY TAKE 30, 45 DAYS, 30 DAYS.
WE'LL HAVE TO BRING DOWN THE BUILDING, TAKE OUT THE PARKING LOT, EVERYTHING.
OH, IT IS ABOUT TWO MONTHS OUT, BASICALLY A MONTH TO TWO MONTHS OUT.
AND THAT WOULD BE, THE OPERATION HOUR WOULD BE BETWEEN SEVEN TO FIVE, WOULD YOU SAY? UH, THAT TYPICALLY, YEAH.
MOST OF THE GCS WRAP THINGS UP BY FOUR OR FIVE EVERY DAY.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION WITH MODIFICATIONS.
WOULD YOU MIND READING, I THINK YOU NEED TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND I, I'LL ANSWER THE CONSTRUCTION QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP.
UM, THE CITY DOES ALLOW CONSTRUCTION TO TAKE PLACE BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 8:00 PM SO WE USUALLY ADD THE CONDITION ON THEIR BASED ON, UH, THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE.
UM, BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT CAN, UM, OPERATE, YOU KNOW, AT REDUCED HOURS IN CONSIDERATION OF, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MEANING IF WE EVER WANTED TO CHANGE THAT, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, CORRECT? MM-HMM
SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
THIS DECISION WILL BE FINAL UNLESS A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR AN APPEAL IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS.
[COMMISSION REPORTS/COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS ]
NOW WE MOVE ON TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS, MISCELLANEOUS, UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OR OFFER OR COMMENT ON? UH, NO.THE ONLY THING I WANNA WISH EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IS I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND SAFE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY I KNOW, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS HAD A LOT OF STAFF TURNOVER AND EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, THERE WAS A, UH, THERE, THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS, UH, MOTHER MAY I BACK IN THE, UH, JUNE 20, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT JUNE, JULY 22ND, UH, MEETING THAT HAS YET TO BE AGENDIZED.
UM, AND IT PERTAINS TO, TO SOMETHING, UM, THAT'S QUITE PRESSING.
THAT'S, THAT'S COMING UP AT THE, UH, DECEMBER 16TH COUNCIL MEETING PERTAINING TO THE, UH, THE STREET SWEEPING, UH, REGULATIONS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN IMPOSED AND ARE, ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION.
I, I REALLY, UH, REALLY, REALLY WANT TO URGE STAFF, UM, TO TRY TO BRING THAT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT THE ISSUES AS TO THE SIGN BLIGHT THAT WE ARE SEEING IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DISCUSS SUBSTANTIVELY.
I THINK IF WE DO NOT, IT WILL BE A MANIFEST DISSERVICE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS HERE.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE I'D LIKE TO ADD AND WELCOME OUR NEW DIRECT, UH, COMMUNITY DIRECTOR THIS EVENING.
I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH EVERYBODY OR TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY.
AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE.
I WILL ADD HAPPY 101 BIRTHDAY TO MY MOTHER, ROSA MARIA.
OKAY, SO MOVING TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT, ART, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS? UH, NO ITEMS TO REPORT OTHER THAN SAYING, UH, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYBODY.
SO, UM, ANY CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS TO REPORT? NONE.
UM, HAVING NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 8:07 PM NIGHT.