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[Call to Order]
THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENT, UM, AND THEN FOLLOWED BY A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
NOW FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
JO JOANNE, COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, ROLL CALL.
LET THE RECORD SHOW ALL PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WE HAVE, UH, MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING ON JANUARY 28TH, 2025.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? IF THERE'S NONE, THE MINUTES ARE NO.
THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
[ORAL COMMUNICATIONS]
WE HAVE ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.UH, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS THAT IS NOT ON AGENDA? JOANNE, DO WE HAVE ANY CARD? NO.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR TONIGHT, WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.WOULD ANY, I WAS GONNA SAY, WOULD ANYONE LIKES TO PULL THIS MATTER FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR DISCUSSIONS? OR WOULD ANYONE LIKES TO MAKE A MOTION? MOTION? OH, THAT'S I'LL SECOND CONSENT CALENDAR.
[3. PRECISE PLAN NO. 23-05]
ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING.
JOANNE, WILL YOU PRESENT THE ITEM? UM, I WILL BE PRESENTING THE ITEM I.
SO, UM, THIS ITEM IS FOR A HOSPITAL EDITION AT 7 25 SOUTH ORANGE.
UM, THE ALTERNATE ADDRESS, 7 41 SOUTH ORANGE.
THE, THE PROJECT REQUIRES A PRECISE PLAN, UM, FOR THE SITE PLAN.
IN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR THE HOSPITAL USE.
A VARIANCE IS REQUIRED BECAUSE A SITE WITH THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES AND A TREE ROOM WILL PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR THE REMOVAL OF 25 SIGNIFICANT TREES ON, UM, ON SITE.
IT IS BASED ON ITS LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND IT'S NOT BASED ON SPECIES IN PARTICULAR.
THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST OF SOUTH ORANGE AVENUE
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AND THE, AND WEST CAMERON AVENUE INTERSECTION SOUTH, JUST SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE 10 FREEWAY.THE, THE SITE IS THE EXISTING MEDICAL, UM, WEST COVINA MEDICAL CENTER.
UM, IT ENCOMPASSES A HOSPITAL AND ALSO MEDICAL OFFICE, A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.
AND NOTE THAT AS PART OF THE PROJECT, THE, UM, THE CARPORT AT THE RE, UM, ON THE, JUST ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WILL BE REMOVED.
UM, AND THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO REQUIRE, UM, IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEIR EMERGENCY, THEIR FIRE TRUCKS OR, UM, FIRE ENGINES TO, TO BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND ON, ON AND OFFSITE.
THE SITE IS A, A BUDDING FLOOR AND DECOR JUST SOUTH.
UM, THE, THE PARK, UH, THE PARKING LOT THAT'S UTILIZED BY THE WEST AVENUE MEDICAL CENTER TO, TO THE WEST, AND A OFFICE BUILDING ALSO TO THE WEST AND TO JUST EAST OF THE SITE IS THE INTER INTERSTATE 10 FREEWAY.
UM, JUST LITTLE PROJECT OVERVIEW.
THE, THE HOSPITAL WILL WILL BE LOCATED JUST, JUST, UM, EAST OF THE EXISTING MEDICAL BU, UM, OFFICE BUILDING ATTACHED TO THE ONE STORY PORTION OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
AND IT IS LOCATED, UM, AND IT IS THE AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN, IN PURPLE ON THE SITE PLAN.
THE SITE, UM, SITE IS A ACCESSED FROM, FROM SOUTH ORANGE AVENUE, UM, VIA DRIVEWAY.
UM, THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY ON, ON SITE AND THE, UM, FROM THE SITE, UM, FROM THE ENT, FROM THE SITE ENTRANCE, YOU, UM, YOU CAN, UH, VEHICLE CAN GO ABOUT TWO WAYS FROM TO THE PATIENT DROP OFF AREA, WHICH IS A COVERED AREA, UM, OR TO THE REAR, WHICH LEADS TO THE AM UM, THE AMBULANCE BASE AND ALSO THE, THE STAFF PARKING THERE ARE, THERE, THERE ARE 12 STAFF PARKING AREAS PROVIDED ON THE SITE, AND A TOTAL OF SIX HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES ON SITE AS WELL.
UM, AND AS FAR AS, UM, CIRCULATION IS CONCERNED, LEAVING THE SITE, UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE IS GONNA BE A, A TURNAROUND AREA FOR, FOR THE, THE FIRE ENGINES JUST TO THE, THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE WHERE THE EXISTING CARPORTS ARE LOCATED.
THE SITE IS A FOUR STORY BUILDING.
UM, OR THE PROJECTS, THE PROJECT IS A FOUR STORY BUILDING.
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 70 FEET TALL, AND IT, UM, THE SITE IS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, UM, DOWNTOWN PLAN AND CODE AREA.
AND FOR THE, THE URBAN CENTER ZONE, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 70 FEET.
SO THE PROJECT DOES COMPLY WITH THE 70 FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IN THE DOWNTOWN PLANNING CODE AREA.
UM, THE DESIGN OF THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE BUILDING WILL, WILL MATCH THE EXISTING, UM, BUILDING THAT THAT IS THERE.
UM, IT'LL HAVE, UM, SO SIMILAR COLOR DETAILS.
IT'LL HAVE, UM, STUCCO AND, UM, BEIGE AND STUC, UM, WHITE
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OR BEIGE STUCCO WITH GRAY DETAILS AND, AND ALUMINUM OR MIDDLE, UM, SIDING MORE OF THE, THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR, FOR THE SITE.UM, THE, THE AREA THAT IS SHOWN ON THE TOP PHOTOGRAPH IS, IS ACTUALLY THE, WHAT IS GONNA BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET ALONG ALONG ORANGE.
AND THEN THIS VIEW RIGHT HERE IS ALL ALONG NEAR THE AM THE AMBULANCE BAY ALONG THE SIDE, AND ALSO THE REAR, THE FIRST FLOOR OF, OF THE, THE PROJECT.
UM, WE WILL HAVE THE, LIKE UTILITY EQUIPMENT AREA, THE FILE, THE FIRE PUMP, RISER, STAIRS, UM, THE STAFF LOCKER ROOM AND LOUNGE AREA, THE, THE KITCHEN, THE GENERATOR, MECHANICAL ROOM AREA, THE AMBULANCE BAY DOCK RECEIVING, UM, THE AREA FOR RECEIVING PATIENTS AND ALSO THE LOBBY AND WAITING ROOM AREA.
THE SECOND FLOOR WILL HAVE, UM, THE, THE BEDS, THE TOTAL CONFIGURATION.
UM, THE PROJECT WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF 71 BEDS.
UM, THE, THE SECOND FLOOR WILL, WILL HAVE, WILL BE MAINLY USED FOR THE, FOR THE PATIENTS WITH, WITH, UM, PATIENT BEDS AND ALSO THE NURSING STATION, UM, CENTRALLY LOCATED WITH THE EXAM ROOMS, UM, SECLUSION ROOMS AND STORAGE ROOMS, AND ALSO THE STAFF RESTROOMS. UM, THIS, THE AREA TO THE LEFT, UM, AND IN PINK WILL BE THE CON THE CONSULTATION AND THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
UM, AND IT, THAT IS LOCATED NEAR THE ELEVATOR AREA.
AND AT THE, THE ORANGE AREA, THE BOTTOM IS THE GROUP THERAPY, DINING ROOM, RECREATIONAL ROOM AREA, AND AN INDOOR ACTIVITY SPACE.
ON THE THIRD FLOOR, THE THIRD FLOOR WILL HAVE SIM A SIMILAR CONFIGURATION, UM, EXCEPT THAT THERE IS THE TRIANGULAR, THE GREEN ANGULAR AREA.
UM, RIGHT ALONG HERE WOULD BE THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITY SPACE, WHICH IS OPEN FROM, WHICH HAS AN OPEN ROOF AREA SO THAT THE PATIENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY OR HAVE OUTDOOR ACTIVITY.
AND THE, UM, FOURTH FLOOR ALSO HAS SIM SIMILAR CONFIGURATION, EXCEPT THAT THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AREA IS ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, TO THE, UH, SQUARE AREA AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, OF THE BUILDING.
SO AS FAR AS PROJECT DATA IS CONCERNED, THE EXISTING SITE IS 2.83 ACRES.
UM, THE TOTAL BUILDING ADDITION, UM, IS 42,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE SITE WITH THE BUILDING ADDITION WOULD BE ONE 103,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE, THE, THE SETBACK AS FAR AS THE SETBACKS ARE CONCERNED, UM, IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND CODE AREA, THERE IS NO MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM SETBACK.
UM, EXCEPT FOR THE REAR, WHICH IS THE NORTH SIDE, THE MINIMUM IS FIVE FEET.
AND THE SIDE, THE PROJECT SIDE, AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE CONCERNED, UM, COMPLIES OR WITHIN WI IS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ALLOWED IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND CODE AREA.
UM, I HAVE ON, ON THE SCREEN, I HAVE PROJECT RENDERINGS WITH, WITH, UM, A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE SITE, THE PROJECT SITE, THE, UM, THE VIEW FROM THE FREEWAY ON OFF RAMP, AND THE PATIENT DROP OFF AREA, AND ALSO ARRIVAL ALONG ORANGE AVENUE.
AS FAR AS PARKING IS CONCERNED.
UM, THE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE
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IS FOR PARKING.UM, AND BASED ON JUST THE CODE, THE, THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE ALONE, UM, BASED ON THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THE EXISTING IN ITSELF WOULD REQUIRE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 117 PARKING SPACES.
AND THE, THE HOSPITAL, UM, WITH THE ADDITION WOULD REQUIRE 234 PARKING SPACES.
HOWEVER, THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, PLAN AND CODE ALLOWS RE UM, PARKING REQUIREMENT IS 65%, 65% OF WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
SO IN THIS SENSE, THE, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE DOWNTOWN PLANNING CODE AREA AND FOR THE SITE IS 229 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS A 79 PARKING SPACE DEFICIT.
UM, THE EXIST, THE EXISTING SITE WITH THE PARKING OF THE 18 PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE ON THE PROJECT SITE ITSELF, AND ALSO ON THE PARKING LOT ACROSS ON ORANGE, HAS A TOTAL OF 150 PARKING SPACES.
UM, AND THERE, THERE HAS BEEN A PARKING ANALYSIS, UM, THAT WAS CONDUCTED FOR THE SITE AND BASED ON THE, UM, PARKING COUNT, UM, THE PEAK DEMAND FOR THE, FOR THE EXISTING USE IS, UM, 123 PARKING SPACES.
AND THAT WAS COUNTED, UM, ON A WEDNESDAY AT 10:00 AM AND ALL OTHER TI TIMEFRAMES THAT WERE, WHERE, WHERE THE PARKING COUNT WAS CONDUCTED, UM, THE PARKING DE DEMAND RANGED FROM 13 TO, IT SAYS 19, BUT, UH, IT'S 119 PARKING SPACES.
HOWEVER, UM, BA BASED ON THE PARK, UM, ITE OR PARKING DE PARKING DEMAND, AND ALSO WITH THE EXISTING USE, UM, INTO CONSIDERATE CONSIDERATION, THE, THE PARKING DE THE TOTAL PARKING DEMAND IS 154 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS FOUR SPACES LESS THAN WHAT IS PROVIDED.
UM, HOWEVER, BASED ON THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPOSED USE, UM, IN USING THIS IN COMBINATION WITH, WITH, UM, THE FACT THAT THE, UM, THE EXISTING MEDICAL OFFICE, UM, IS THE EXISTING USES ARE GONNA BE, THE TENANTS ARE GONNA BE VA VACATING THE SITE BECAUSE OF THE ANTICIPATED EXPANSION OF AN ADULT DAYCARE PROGRAM, WHICH HAS A, UM, LESS OF A PARKING DEMAND BECAUSE THE ADULT, THE RES OR THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE ADULT DAYCARE PROGRAM ARE TYPICALLY BUST OR SHUTTLED TO THE SITE.
SIMILAR TO THE OTHER, UM, ADULT DAYCARE PROGRAMS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED IN THE PAST.
UM, THIS IS TO SAY THAT, THAT THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN, IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION RE UM, INDICATING THAT THE ADULT DAYCARE PROGRAM, UM, WILL REQUIRE A SEPARATE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE ALLOWED ON, ON THE SITE.
AND THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AT A LATER TIME WHEN, WHEN THEY DO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.
UM, THERE ALSO HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UM, THAT, THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE PARKING CONCERNS.
UM, AND THESE CONDITIONS, UH, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UM, REQUIRES THAT IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, PARKING, UM, I GUESS ISSUES ON THE SITE, THAT THE PLANNING, THAT STAFF CAN BRING THE ITEM BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR MODIFICATION OF, OF THE ENTITLEMENT FOR ADDED CONDITIONS OR, OR, UM, REMOVE MODIFICA, UM, OR MODIFICATION OF, OF WHAT, WHAT THEY WERE APPROVED FOR IN ADD.
UM, IN, IN, IN ADDITION, UM, THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER, UM, CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THAT THE PARKING LOT THAT'S BEING UTILIZED BY THE WEST COVINA MEDICAL CENTER THAT IT CONTINUE TO PRO.
UM, IT CONTINUES TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR THE CENTER.
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AND THAT THE, THAT, UM, DOCUMENTATION OF THIS BE RECORDED, UH, BEFORE, UM, BEFORE THE, THE PERMIT FINAL.THERE ALSO ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, FOR THE ENTITLEMENT.
UM, ONE IS ARTS AND PUBLIC PLACES BASED ON THE PROJECT, UM, ARTS AND PUBLIC PLACES WOULD BE RE, PUBLIC ART WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UM, AND THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO INSTALL THEIR OWN ART OR PAY THE, IN LIEU, IN LIEU COST, UM, WHICH IS EQUAL TO 1% OF THE CONSTRUCTION VALUATION.
UM, DEVELOPMENT IN IMPACT FEES, THE TOTAL FEE REQUIRED, UH, BASED ON, UH, THE CURRENT STANDARDS IS, IS, UM, 72 THOU 72,660.
UM, AND UPON DISCUSSION WITH, WITH STAFF, THE, THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PROVIDE THE CITY 10 BEDS, UM, 10, 10 BEDS A DAY, UM, FOR UNHOUSED INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS, UM, NEEDING MENTAL HEALTH CARE.
UM, AND THE, THE 10 INDIVIDUALS LEADING ME MENTAL HEALTH CARE DOES NOT NECESSARILY, IS NOT NECESSARILY GONNA BE PROVIDED CARE ON SITE.
UM, THEY MAY, IF THERE IS ROOM ON SITE, THEY WILL BE PROVIDED CARE ON SITE.
IT, THEY MAY BE DROPPED OFF AT THEIR OTHER LOCATIONS, UM, LOCALLY THAT THE OWNERSHIP OF THE WEST COVINA MEDICAL CENTER ALSO OWN IN OTHER CITIES AS FAR AS IN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS CONCERNED.
UM, THE, UH, THIS, UH, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT DOCUMENT WAS REPAIRED AND IT WAS CIRCULATED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT, UM, FROM JANUARY 15 TO FEBRUARY 3RD.
AND, UM, THE CITY DID RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT AND DEPARTMENT OF TOX TOXIC SUBSTANCE CONTROL.
THE STATE DEPARTMENT, UM, COMMENTS WERE PREPARED FOR LETTERS RECEIVED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND A COPY OF THOSE LETTERS WERE ATTACHED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT.
UM, AS FAR AS, UM, THE CA DOCUMENT IS CONCERNED, THE C EQUA DOCUMENT WAS PREPARED BY THE CITY'S CONSULTANT, UM, TERRY HAYES AND SOCIA, AND I HAVE THERESA LEE AVAILABLE IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT.
AND SHE IS ABLE TO GO INTO MUCH, UM, INTO DETAIL REGARDING THE CEQA DOCUMENT IN ITSELF.
UM, WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OR OF THE PROJECT, UM, WITH THE CERTIFICATION OF THE MITIGATED NECK DECK, APPROVAL OF THE PRECISE PLAN, UM, THE RESOLUTION, THE, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND ALSO THE VARIANCE.
ALSO, UM, ONE THING TO POINT OUT IS I DROVE BY THE SITE THIS MORNING AND NOTICED THAT, THAT THE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET ON ORANGE IS CURRENTLY LACKING.
SO I'D LIKE TO ADD A CONDITION OF APPROVE.
I LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER ADDING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THAT REHABILITATION OF THE LANDSCAPING ON THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET, UM, THAT'S BEING UTILIZED ON ORANGE AVENUE.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
DO WE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE OPEN UP? I HAVE NO QUESTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPING CONDITION.
I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE, I, I GUESS, COMMUNITY BENEFIT THAT IS TO BE PROVIDED AS PART OF THIS, UM,
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10 PATIENTS PER DAY DROPPED OFF BY WHOM? THE POLICE? UM, TYPICALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.SO IT'S, SO IF A THIRD PARTY WHO HAPPENS TO BE IN WEST COVINA, OR IS A RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA, ARE THEY GOING TO BE TURNED AWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE UNHOUSED, OR IS THAT, I, I'M, I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT.
SO IT, UM, IT WOULD BE A COMMUNITY.
IT, IT WOULD BE SOME, IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT A CITY OFFICIAL OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DROPS OFF ON, ON THEIR, ON THEIR SITE.
AND IT CAN BE ON THEIR EXISTING SITE OR, OR IN THEIR NEAR NEARBY SITE ON, I BELIEVE GLENDORA.
ARE, IT'S, UM, TYPICALLY THE WAY, THE WAY THIS HOSPITAL IS OPERATED, THEY, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T ACCEPT PATIENTS, UM, ADMITTED ON, ON THE SITES.
THEY'RE USUALLY TRANSFERRED THERE FROM THEIR, FROM OTHER FACILITIES.
SO, SO CURRENTLY THEY'RE OPERATING A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITY, CORRECT? CURRENTLY, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
HOW, HOW MANY BEDS DO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE? UM, I BELIEVE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 40, 46.
AND SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO GO FROM 46 TO SEVEN, UH, AND ADD AN ADDITIONAL 71, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THE PARKING, OR SEE, OKAY, LET ME, LET ME ASK, OKAY.
SO HOW MANY NEW EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE ON SITE WITH THE, WITH THE NEW FACILITY, UM, VERSUS CURRENT STATUS QUO? THE, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO BETTER ANSWER THAT QUESTION REGARDING THEIR EMPLOYEES.
AND, AND AS FAR AS THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ASPECT OF, OF THIS, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INPATIENT FACILITY? YES.
AND ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, UH, INVOLUNTARY PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT? THE APPLICANT WOULD BE BETTER AS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I HAVE A QUESTION REGARD PARKING THOUGH, JOANNE, UM, EXISTING IN NEW PARKING THAT'S BEING PROVIDED WITH FOR THE NEW BUILDING.
UM, DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER? AND WHERE ARE THE PARKING, WHERE ARE THE PARKINGS RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW, THE PARKING, THE PARKING SPACE IS THIS, THIS AREA IN BETWEEN THE EXISTING BUILDING AND ALSO THE OFF THE I 10 OFF RAMP.
UM, AND IT IS WHERE THE PROPOSED BUILDING WA UM, IN DRIVE AISLE IS, IS PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED.
I'M SORRY, UM, WE DIDN'T SEE THE ARROW ARROW EARLIER.
SO CAN YOU POINT TO WHERE THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING PARKING IN, IN THIS AREA, THAT'S THE EXISTING PARKING? YES.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE NEW PARKING? UM, I'LL, I'LL SHOW, UH, YOU HAVE THE AARI HERE.
THE EXISTING PARKING IS IN THIS AREA, AND ALSO THERE'S EXISTING PARKING IN THE BACK, WHICH WILL REMAIN.
AND THERE'S ALSO EXISTING PARKING ALONG THE EAST, WHICH ONLY TWO WILL, WILL REMAIN IN PLACE BECAUSE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENT OF THE TURNAROUND.
SO HOW MANY EXISTING PARKING AND HOW MANY WILL BE NEW PARKING AFTER THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT? IT'S CURRENTLY 55.
UH, AND THE REQUIREMENT ADDING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD BE 150, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND SO, WHERE'S THAT 150 GONNA, WELL, THAT'S WHY THE VARIANCE IS BEING REQUESTED BECAUSE WE'RE, UH, SHORT 79.
BUT, BUT WHERE ARE THE NEW PARKINGS GONNA BE? STREET EVEN THOUGH STREET, THERE'S NO STREET PARKING? NO, THEY, THEY DO HAVE A PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
AND THAT'S OWNED BY THE, CAN YOU SHOW THE PICTURE IN, IN ON THE DIAGRAM? I IT'S ACROSS THE STREET ON ORANGE.
IT'S A, IT'S ON A DIFFERENT SITE.
DO AT THIS AREA WHERE THE TREES ARE, THAT'S ALSO OWNED BY THEM AS WELL? YES.
HOW MANY PARKINGS OVER THERE? UM, IT'S, IT'S EXISTING, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW THE TOTAL 55,
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MAJORITY OF THE PARKING'S OVER THERE, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE PARK, UM, THERE'S PARKING, THERE'S 55 HERE AND THERE.THEY ALSO HAVE, UM, PARKINGS IN THIS AREA.
LET ME GO AHEAD AND CHECK, HOLD ON.
I GUESS WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT AFTER WE HEAR FROM THEM.
70, 72, YOU COULD BRING THEM, IT LOOKS LIKE.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF NOT, WE'LL JUST, IS IT, UH, FOR THE PATIENT, IS IT LONG-TERM OR SHORT-TERM CARE? UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I'LL JUST, UM, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE GONNA BE HEARING TESTIMONY FROM APPLICANT AND THEN THOSE IN FAVOR, THEN THOSE OPPOSED, UM, I HAVE ONE CARD, BUT IT DIDN'T STATE, I GUESS WE HEAR IT FROM THE APPLICANT.
FIRST IS, IS, IS THIS BRAD MANNING? NICK.
UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND WHAT THIS WILL DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
MY NAME'S NICHOLAS HERMAN WITH THE BR COMPANIES.
WE ARE THE DEVELOPER ON THE PROJECT.
I'M THE CHIEF O OPERATING OFFICER FOR THE HOSPITAL.
C VICKI ROLLINS IS JOINED BY BILL NELSON.
UH, THEY'VE RUN SEVERAL, UH, HOSPITAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UM, FACILITIES THROUGHOUT LOS ANGELES, THE GREATER LOS ANGELES AREA.
THEY DO A LOT OF, THEY DO A LOT OF WORK THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND WITH THEIR L-A-D-M-C FOUNDATION.
THIS HOSPITAL ACTUALLY IS PART OF A LICENSE TIED TO DOWNTOWN LA SITE.
SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THE OPERATING PLAN FOR THIS HOSPITAL, PATIENTS ARE FIRST EVALUATED IN DOWNTOWN LA AND THEN, UH, WOULD BE BROUGHT HERE FOR ACUTE, UH, INPATIENT INPATIENT PSYCHIATRIC CARE.
SO THE LENS OF STAY WOULD BE LIKE EIGHT TO 10 DAYS.
YOU WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LONG, THE, THE CONTINUUM OF CARE WITH THE PATIENTS, I THINK.
SO THEN AS FOR THE PARKING QUESTIONS, WE ARE LOSING SOME PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE.
UH, THERE ARE BENEFITS TO PUTTING THE BUILDING ON THE SITE BECAUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE SERVICES WITH THE EXISTING, UH, HOSPITAL THAT IT'S CONNECTED TO.
THE MOB THAT'S THERE UP UNTIL THIS POINT HAS HAD A DAYCARE, UH, HEALTH, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR, FOR ELDERLY AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PATIENTS THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN IT HAS ALSO HAD PRIVATE TENANTS THAT PRACTICE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.
THOSE LEASES HAVE BEEN TERMINATED AND, AND BASICALLY THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF VISITORS THERE WON'T BE, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC COMING TO THIS SPACE NOW.
AND IN THE FUTURE, AS JOANNE MENTIONED, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL BE APPLIED FOR, TO EXPAND THE CURRENT DAYCARE PROGRAM.
THAT DAYCARE, UH, IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS APPLICATION, BUT IT'S JUST TO SAY THAT THE PARKING DEMAND WILL BE LESS ON THE SITE.
UH, WE WORKED THROUGH TAHA AND THEN ALSO HIRED LLG TO HELP US DO THIS, UH, ANALYSIS.
THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET THAT WAS SHOWN, WHICH IN THIS PICTURE IS IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.
UH, WHEN, WHEN YOU SEE THE PHOTO OF IT FROM THE AERIAL PHOTO, IT'S COVERED IN, IN TREES THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXISTING PARKING LOT OWNED BY THE, UM, BY THE OWNER.
ALSO, PARKING IS, HAS BEEN BORROWED, UH, FROM FLOOR DECOR IN THE PAST, WHICH THE OWNER, LIKE WE, WE WANTED TO APPLY FOR THIS VARIANCE TO BE ABLE TO JUST USE THE PROPERTY THAT THE OWNER OWNS.
BUT, UH, ALSO A, A, LIKE A, A LONG-TERM AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SET UP WITH, UH, FLOOR AND DECOR TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT'S CLOSER IF NEEDED.
BUT THE, THIS VARIANCE IS, UH, REQUESTED TO JUST BE ABLE TO USE THE, THE TREE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE WAY AND THE REMAINING, UH, PARKING THAT'S ON THE SITE, GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE, OF THE PATIENTS, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE VISITORS.
MAYBE THERE'S ONE VISITOR A DAY, THEY'RE THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE LEFT, UH, OR WHEN THEY GET TO EXIT THIS HOSPITAL, THEY'RE NOT JUST LET OUT ONTO THE STREET.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THE FOUNDATION WORKS WITH A WHOLE PROCESS TO MOVE THEM THROUGH CONTINUUM OF CARE AND FIND HOUSING FOR THEM.
IF I COULD ALSO GO AND ADDRESS THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW PATIENTS ARE DROPPED OFF THERE, THE OWNER HAS WANTED TO MAKE THIS PROJECT A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, LIKE YOU SAID.
UH, AND IN INITIAL MEETINGS WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE REALLY WASN'T A PLAN OR A PROGRAM FOR TRANSIENTS OR PEOPLE WITH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO REALLY THE, THE TERMS OR THE DEFINITIONS OF THAT ARE, ARE JUST THAT IF YOUR OFFICIALS, YOU KNOW, NEED HELP AND BRING, BRING PATIENTS OVER, UH, MS. VICKI AND BILL NELSON, YOU KNOW, HAVE AGREED TO TAKE THOSE PATIENTS IN, BRING THEM TO LA DOWNTOWN MEDICAL CENTER AND DOWNTOWN LA EVALUATE THEM.
AND THEN, UH, IF THERE'S SPACE IN THIS HOSPITAL, THEY CAN BRING THEM BACK HERE FOR CARE OR THEY CAN BRING THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT THE INITIAL POINT OF DROP OFF WOULD BE THERE, HERE.
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A, THERE'S AN AMBULANCE BAY IN THE BACK, WHICH CAN JUST BE, YOU KNOW, WOULD JUST BE USED AS A DROP OFF.IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AN EMERGENCY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL RECEIVE THEM THERE AND THEN ON OUR OWN ACCORD, BRING THEM TO DOWNTOWN TO EVALUATE THEM.
AND HOW MANY YEARS IS THE LONG-TERM AGREEMENT FOR PARKING WITH FLOOR DECOR? UH, SO IT WAS NOT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, BUT MS. VICKI WENT AND DID THAT.
YOU HAVE A, IT'S, UH, THERE IS, UH, NO SET, UH, BUT IT'S RENEWABLE EVERY TWO YEARS.
SO THAT WAS, YEAH, I GUESS THERE'S NOT A TERM ON IT, PARKING SPACES, TWO, TWO YEAR TERM.
UH, I SAID THERE'S NOT A TERM ON IT.
THAT'S WHAT I, HOW, HOW MANY OPTIONS ARE THERE? THERE'S, THEY DIDN'T, UH, STIPULATE ANY OPTIONS.
BUT DO YOU, DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE CONTRACTUAL OPTIONS, UNLIMITED CONTRACTUAL OPTIONS? OR, OR IN PERPETUITY OR? IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, BETWEEN, UM, PER PERFECT.
OH, THE AUTO THAT, UH, WE WERE ABLE, WE WERE DEALING, WE WERE, WE WERE NEGOTIATING WITH THE TWO COMPANIES, UH, FLORIDA CORE THAT YOU MENTIONED, AND THEN, UH, PER PERFECT AUTO SERVICE PARTS AND YEAH.
AUTO SERVICE PARTS GAVE US AN AGREEMENT, UH, FOR UP TO 72 PARKING SPACES.
AND, AND THE TERM OF IT, IT'S, UH, FOR TWO YEARS RENEWABLE, BUT THERE IS NO SET HOW MANY TWO YEARS WE HAVE TO RENEW.
AND, AND I THINK, I GUESS THE, THE PURPOSE THERE, A LOT OF TIME WAS SPENT ON THE PARKING STUDY AND, YOU KNOW, GOING OVER THE OPERATING PLAN, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY VISITORS ARE COMING, WHAT THE CURRENT USAGE IS.
SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY NEED THOSE SPACES, YOU KNOW, TO MEET, LIKE, THE DEMAND AS IT WAS STUDIED WAS ONLY 119, RIGHT? AS SHE MENTIONED IN THE PEAK, IT WAS 1 23.
SO WITH THIS MOVE, UH, THE, AND THE MOB BEING CLEARED OF DOCTORS, DENTISTS AND PATIENTS, WHATNOT, YOU KNOW, THAT DEMAND IS GOING DOWN AND THESE PATIENTS THAT ARE IN THIS 71 BED ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE BUST IN AND BUST OUT.
SO THE, THE WHOLE INTENT OF THAT PARKING VARIANCE WAS TO STUDY, CONFIRM, AND SHOW THAT, UH, OUR PARKING REDUCTION IS ACTUALLY GOING DOWN BECAUSE THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, USE IS CHANGING.
UH, AND THAT THE EXISTING PARKING WAS SUFFICIENT.
AGAIN, THEY ONLY MONITORED AND SAW 123 ARCING, YOU KNOW, SPACES USED IN THEIR PEAK TIME.
SO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, UH, AUTO STORE AND THE FLOOR AND DECOR AGREEMENT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDED JUST IN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS AS A SAFETY NET.
BUT OUR, OUR VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN.
SO YOU HAVE 46 BEDS, UH, CURRENTLY 71 THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO ADD, UM, OF THE 46 THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE, ARE, ARE ANY OF THOSE GOING FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PATIENTS? NO.
SO IT IS, THIS IS A, UM, GENERAL ACUTE CARE HOSPITAL THAT IS LARGELY USED AS SKILLED NURSING RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE ARE 13 MED SURG BEDS NOT BEING OPERATED AS MED SURG.
UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD, THERE ARE A LOT OF SEISMIC COMPLIANCE THINGS TO LOOK AT.
SO RIGHT NOW, UH, THERE ARE ONLY, UH, 14 SKILLED NURSING BEDS BEING USED IN THE EXISTING HOSPITAL.
WE HAVE ABOUT, WE AVERAGE ABOUT, UH, 17 TO 20 IN THE, UH, SUBACUTE SKILLED NURSING, UH, PART OF THE HOSPITAL.
AND THEY'RE LONG TERM BECAUSE AFTER COVID YEAH, THAT, THAT'S LONG TERM.
AFTER COVID, UH, WHENEVER REALLY REOPENED THE MEDICAL SURGICAL UNIT AND, UH, THE OPERATING ROOM.
SO IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING AS A TRADITIONAL HOSPITAL WHERE SOMEBODY BREAKS AN ARM AND GOES IN THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO SEE A DOCTOR.
IT'S JUST BEING USED AS SKILLED NURSING AT THE MOMENT.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT CHANGES AND YOU START UTILIZING THAT FACILITY BACK TO ITS, YOU KNOW, BEST AND HIGHEST USE ARE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A BIG PARKING DEFICIT UNDER THE CURRENT STUDY? THE, THE PLANS ARE FOR SKILLED NURSING IN THE FUTURE, WHICH WILL ADDRESS IN THE COMING FOUR YEARS.
UH, BASICALLY IT WILL, IT WILL, IT WON'T BE ABLE TO BE A SURGERY CENTER IN THE FUTURE BASED ON H KAI'S CODE, UH, AND SEISMIC REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE, THE BUSINESS MODEL OF THIS CAMPUS IS CHANGING INTO, YOU KNOW, INTO JUST TREATING PATIENTS THAT NEED TO BE DROPPED OFF AND, AND TAKEN CARE OF.
SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOU'RE, OKAY, SO I, I NEED TO ASK A BASELINE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PATIENTS ARE GOING TO STAY BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10 DAYS.
ARE WE TALKING INVOLUNTARY? INPATIENT, MOSTLY INVOLUNTARY BECAUSE, UH, THE CURRENT LICENSE OF OUR OTHER, UH, SITES, WE ARE LPS DESIGNATED FACILITY.
SO ONLY ONE OF THE FEW THAT, UH, IS LPS DESIGNATED.
SO IT'LL BE MOSTLY INVOLUNTARY.
SO, SO YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO BE DOING ANY 53 50
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STUFF.YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE DOING 51 AND 50 TWOS? TWO 50.
SO 50 TWOS BY DEFINITION GO 14 DAYS.
SO, SO ARE YOU, WHEN YOU SAY IT'S EIGHT TO 10 DAYS, IS THAT, ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT AN AVERAGE OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE? OKAY.
THE, THE THING IS, IN AS, AS SOMEBODY WHO IS VERY AWARE OF THE MENTAL HEALTH SITUATION IN THIS COUNTY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO FALL UNDER 52 50 HAVE VISITORS TYPICALLY IN THE EVENING.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES ALLOW FOR IS EVENING VISITATION, USUALLY FOR AN HOUR.
AND MOST OF THE TIME WHEN I'VE GONE TO THOSE FACILITIES DURING THAT TIME, THERE'S NO PARKING.
AND IT'S NOT JUST A PROBLEM IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY, IT'S A PROBLEM IN ORANGE COUNTY AS WELL.
SO MY CONCERN ABOUT IT IS THAT WHATEVER YOU GUYS DO, IF THIS IS APPROVED, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE OFFSETTING VISITATION HOURS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ACTUALLY WORKS.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE, I VERY MUCH FEAR IT WON'T WORK.
'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT TO SEE YOU.
IF, IF YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE, THE EVALUATION IN LOS ANGELES BUSTING PEOPLE OUT TO WEST COVINA AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEIR LOVED ONES OR WHATEVER ARE COMING OUT TO SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS FOR THE MOST PART.
AND, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LPS, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE AVERAGE HOMELESS PERSON ON THE STREET THAT'S GETTING PLACED IN LPS.
IT'S USUALLY SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT A REALLY DILIGENT LOVED ONE WHO ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THEM, WHO REALLY FORCES THE SYSTEM TO TAKE THEM.
THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW IT WORKS.
UM, AND SO MY, MY, AGAIN, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN ON THIS PARKING ISSUE.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLEHILL, BUT I'VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES.
SO, A AGAIN, I, I, I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A, UH, HAVE A, HAVE A, A SECONDARY PARKING, UM, PLACE.
MY, MY, MY, MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION ON THAT IS, OKAY, IS THAT A RECORDED LEASEHOLD ESTATE OR IS THAT JUST A CONTRACTUAL SITUATION? CONTRACTUAL.
BUT WE DO HAVE A, UH, FACILITY IN THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD MM-HMM
WHICH IS LIKE 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM HERE.
IT'S 118 BED, UH, FACILITY, INPATIENT AS WELL.
AND, UH, YEAH, WE DO 52 FIFTIES OVER THERE.
SO, UM, BUT YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING 50 THREES? NO.
SO THEY'D BE TRANSFERRED OUT TO, YEAH.
HISTORICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, 51 FIFTIES, THE 52 FIFTIES, AND THEN, UH, THE, UH, 53 FIFTIES WERE LIKE PROBLEMATIC TO A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, INPATIENT, UH MM-HMM
UM, WE HAVE A COUNTY CONTRACT AND, UH, THEY REALLY LIKE HOW WE EVALUATE, MANAGE, AND TREAT THEIR CLIENTS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, FROM A 10 BED, UH, CONTRACT IN OUR OTHER FACILITIES, THEY INCREASED IT TO 36.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, BECAUSE, UH, OUR CORE OF PSYCHIATRISTS AND, UH, THE, UH, INTERDISCIPLINARY TEAM THAT, UH, WE'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUILT IN OUR COMPANY ARE REALLY LIKE, PASSIONATE ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH AND, UH, PSYCHIATRIC, UH, ISSUES.
AND WE HAVE PROVEN TO THE GOVERNMENTS, WHETHER FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY, LOCAL, AND, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, THE EIGHT, 10 DAYS IS KIND OF A, AN AVERAGE, UH, LENGTH OF STATE, THEN YOU CAN GO INTO YOUR GEOMETRIC LENGTH OF STAY.
AND, UH, BUT, UH, WE'VE PROVEN THAT WHEN WE START, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE RIGHT TREATMENT FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL PATIENT, THAT IT DOES WORK, AND YOU CAN, AND YOU CAN TREAT THE PATIENT WITHIN THAT CONTINUUM, UH, TIMEFRAME.
AND, UH, THE OTHER REASON WHY WE'RE, I GUESS, SUCCESSFUL IN THAT REGARD IS, UH, OUR COMPANY ALSO OWNS AND OPERATES, UH, SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES.
SO AFTER WE DEVISE THE NEW TREATMENT PROTOCOL FOR THE PATIENT AND THE MEDICATION REGIMEN FOR THE PATIENT, WE DON'T, UH, RETURN THEM TO THE LOWER LEVEL OF CARE.
WE RECOMMEND LIKE A 30 DAY STAY IN A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY WHERE THEY REALLY TRULY, YOU KNOW, UM, EXPERIENCE THE BENEFIT OF THE NEW TREATMENT AND MEDICATION MODALITY.
AND WHEN NICK WAS SAYING THAT WE ALSO GO BEYOND FROM THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY BEFORE EVEN TRAINING THEM BACK TO THEIR LOWER LEVEL OF CARE, WE TRY AND, UH, PARTICIPATE, ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THE JOB, ON THE JOB TRAINING PROGRAM FOR THIS, FOR THESE PATIENTS BEFORE THEY CAN BE INTEGRATED BACK, BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.
YOU SAID THAT MOST ALL OF THEM ARE INVOLUNTARY.
WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THAT? UH, THE INVOLUNTARY MM-HMM
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UH, WE DO ABOUT 80% OR 85% OF OUR TOTAL.AND FOR THE OTHERS WHO WISH TO BE DISCHARGED AND THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO JUST WALK OUT, THEY DO, THEY'RE SELF DIRECT.
SO WOULD THEY BE RELEASED INTO OUR STREETS OF WEST COVINA? UM, WELL, UH, LIKE, UH, WE HAVE A FEW SELF DIRECTS, UH, FROM THE COUNTY, AND WE USUALLY GET THEM ENGAGED.
AND, UH, I'M FIGURING THE POPULATION HERE IN WEST COVENA ARE PROBABLY ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM WITH THE COUNTY.
SO WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, ACTIVELY ENGAGE THE COUNTY FOR COLLABORATIVE, UH, EFFORTS.
IF THEY WERE TRANSFERRED HERE FROM ANOTHER LOCATION, I, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA TRANSFER THEM HERE AND THEN OH, WHEN THEY WANNA DISCHARGE, JUST LET THEM WALK OUT INTO THIS IS, WELL, WE DON'T, YEAH.
THIS IS, THIS IS AIMED AT BEING A PROBLEM SOLVING, NOT A PROBLEM CREATING PROJECT.
SO AS, AS FAR AS VOLUNTARY STAYS, UM, IS, IS THAT GOING TO BE, UM, ARE, ARE THE VOLUNTARY STAYS GOING TO BE COMING FROM OTHER FACILITIES, OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE INITIATED HERE? UM, IT DEPENDS.
UH, I MEAN, UH, IT'S IN OUR HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'RE REALLY, THE MAJORITY IS REALLY, UH, INVOLUNTARY, RIGHT? SO, UH, THE VOLUNTEERS ARE PRETTY, UH, MINIMALLY NUMBERS, SO THEY'RE MANAGEABLE.
I, I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD ADD TO THIS ALSO THAT THE, THE OTHER SITES THAT, CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.
I JUST DIDN'T WANNA YELL IN HER FACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER SITES THAT ARE RUN BY, BY MS. VI, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT OVERFLOWING, RIGHT? SO THERE'RE WE'RE NOT IN A POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE PATIENTS FROM LA DOWNTOWN MEDICAL CENTER ARE NEEDING TO BE TRANSFERRED HERE OR FROM INGLESIDE ARE BEING TRANSFERRED HERE.
THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY IS A STATE FUNDED PROJECT FROM THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONTINUUM INVESTMENT PROGRAM.
SO WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT ONE STATE FUNDS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTHCARE SERVICES, UH, TO BUILD THIS PROJECT.
SO THE, THE LOCATION ON THE SITE WAS MORE BECAUSE THERE'S A NEED OUT HERE AND THERE IS, THERE WAS SPACE AND THE, THE HOSPITAL COULD SUPPORT IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE GENERA, THE, THE ORIGINATION OF THIS, OF THIS PROJECT.
UH, WE, WE LOOK AT THIS AS A SOLUTION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WELCOMING 10 PATIENTS A DAY, OR, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM YOUR OFFICIALS IS A, IS A, IS A GREAT OFFERING TO SHOW THAT WE'RE HERE TO HELP, YOU KNOW, AND NOT JUST THE, THE IDEA OF THIS IS NOT TO TRANSPORT PATIENTS FROM LA TO THIS POINT AND, AND LET THEM OUT ONTO THE STREET HERE.
IT'S TO SERVE THOSE PAT PATIENTS, UH, HELP THEM GET BETTER.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO OPENING THOSE DOORS TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA BECAUSE YOU HAVE PATIENTS HERE THAT NEED HELP, AND YOU'RE ABLE NOW BRING THEM TO THIS FACILITY AND HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, GET TREATED BY A, A REPUTABLE PROGRAM.
UH, SO I, I THINK I, I, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT WAS SAID PREVIOUSLY IS THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING ANY EV EVALUATIONS ON SITE HERE IN WEST COVINA.
SO WE HA LET'S SAY WE HAVE 10 PATIENTS A DAY DROPPED OFF.
ARE YOU GUYS, UH, HOLDING THEM IN CUSTODY AT THAT POINT IN TIME THROUGH, THROUGHOUT, FROM THAT POINT IN TIME ALL THE WAY TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE TRANSFER POINT TO BE EVALUATED IN LOS ANGELES? OR HOW IS THAT WORKING BE BECAUSE, OR, OR IS THE DROP OFF REALLY NOT, NOT REALLY HAPPENING HERE.
WE'RE HAVING OUR, OUR POLICE OFFICERS DRIVE THEIR CARS TO DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES TO DO IT.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE TYPICALLY THOUGH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE PATIENTS ARE BEING TAKEN BY PD AND, UH, OTHER HOME TEAMS, UH, THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH, UH, THE COUNTY, WITH THE COUNTY'S, UH, YOU KNOW, MENTAL, BEHAVIORAL, UH, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES.
AND, UH, THEY USUALLY, THEIR TEAM WILL USUALLY TAKE THEM TO EMERGENCY ROOMS AND GET CLEARANCES.
SO FROM THE, UH, EMERGENCY ROOM LIKE QUEEN MM-HMM
THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY TO WESTS.
COVINA, THERE'S NO PROBLEM IF THEY COME FROM INTER COMMUNITY, UH, ER AND THEY'RE MEDICALLY CLEARED MM-HMM
THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY TO, UH, SO WE WON'T BE HOLDING THEM.
THE WEST COVINA CENTER, PER SE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS ON ALL OF THIS.
SO, SO YOU GUYS ARE, SO IN THE EVENT THAT YOU DO HAVE A, A, A PATIENT WHO, WHO NEEDS TO BE TEMPORARILY INSTITUTIONALIZED FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, WE CAN QUIBBLE OVER THAT WORD, BUT WHATEVER.
UM, MY, MY QUESTION IS, THEY'RE NOT COMING TO YOUR FACILITY.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH ONE OF THE LOCAL HOSPITALS FIRST AND THEN TRANSFERRED TO LOS ANGELES AND THEN ULTIMATELY TRANSFER TO YOU AS, AS PART OF OUR
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APPLICATION, WE'VE SUBMITTED A BUSINESS OPERATIONS PLAN.THAT BUSINESS OPERATIONS PLAN STATES THAT IF A PATIENT IS BROUGHT TO THE WEST COVINA FACILITY MM-HMM.
THAT WE WILL TRANSPORT THEM TO DOWNTOWN LA TO MEDICALLY CLEAR THEM, TO EVALUATE THEM, TO GET THEM STABLE.
AND THEN ONE STABLE, WE'LL BRING THEM BACK.
SO IF YOU BROUGHT ONE AT 8:00 AM UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF OUR VANS OR AMBULANCES TAKE THEM TO DOWNTOWN LA.
IF YOU WERE BROUGHT ONE AT 9:00 AM WE WOULD NEED TO EITHER TAKE A SECOND VAN OR THAT SAME VAN WOULD NEED TO RETURN.
UH, SO THE IDEA OF HOLDING THEM IS IF, YOU KNOW, IF, CAN YOU TALK TO THAT POINT? IF THEY'RE COMING SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE DAY? UM, I'M A LITTLE LOST WITH THE HOLDING BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN OUR OPERATIONS.
UH, RIGHT NOW, IF PD WILL PICK UP, LET'S SAY IN DOWNTOWN LA, THEY USUALLY BRING THEM TO OUR LA DOWNTOWN, UH, LOCATION HAS A CLINIC THAT MEDICALLY CLEARS THEM AND THEN GETS TO BE ADMITTED INTO OUR, BECAUSE PD CAN ALSO DO 51 FIFTIES.
AND, UH, THE HOME TEAMS FROM, UH, THE LA COUNTY, THEY CAN ALSO DO 51 FIFTIES AND THEY HAVE PSYCHIATRISTS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE MOBILIZED ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF LA.
AND, UH, THEY CAN PUT THEM ON 51 50.
SO BY THE TIME WE, UH, GET THE PATIENT ADMITTED, THEY'RE MEDICALLY CLEARED AND THEY'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, READY FOR INPATIENT.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE THAT WASN'T, THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE A DETERMINATION THAT HAD BEEN MADE.
YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO TAKE THEM TO LA I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU GUYS HAVE THE CUSTODIAL RIGHT TO DO THAT? AND THEN, YEAH.
SO I, I THINK, YEAH, THIS WILL, I, I THINK FAIR ENOUGH, ADDITIONAL, UH, DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY WILL NEED TO BE HAPPENING THAT WAY I CAN BETTER EXPLAIN TO THEIR PD AND TO THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, CITY OFFICIALS, RIGHT.
THE, UH, DYNAMICS WOULD BE, WOULD BE OKAY, UN UNDERSTOOD.
BUT BEFORE WE SIT JUST ON THIS PARKING VARIANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BROUGHT UP THIS ADDITIONAL AGREEMENT, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF TODAY'S, YOU KNOW, REQUEST, IT'S, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER AND ACCEPT THE PARKING VARIANCE BASED ON THE STUDY THAT WE'VE DONE, THE CARS THAT WE'VE COUNTED, THE CHANGE IN USE OF THE MMOB, THAT'S GONNA REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THERE.
UH, AND THEN THE OTHER COMPONENT THAT WAS IN THAT VARIANCE WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE MONITORED AND IF IT BECAME A PROBLEM THAT WE COULD REEVALUATE THAT TOGETHER.
SO I THINK THE REASON FOR THAT PROPOSAL IS THAT EVERYBODY IS CONFIDENT THAT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF VISITS AND HOW THIS BUSINESS PLAN WILL OPERATE, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SUFFICIENTLY PARK OURSELVES.
SO, SO REAL QUICK, 'CAUSE I, I DO NEED AN ANSWER ON THIS.
UM, AND I HAD ASKED STAFF, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
HOW MANY NEW EMPLOYEES WILL BE ON SITE AT ANY GIVEN TIME? WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WHO WILL BE ON SITE LOOKING AT ABOUT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 50 50.
AND HOW MANY ARE CURRENTLY ON SITE? HOW MANY CURRENTLY ON SITE? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE MAX AT ANY POINT IN TIME CURRENTLY? MM.
WE'RE ONLY DOING SKILLED NURSING FACILITY WITH AN AVERAGE CENSUS OF 18.
SO, SO THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE 19 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES ON SITE WITH THE, WITH THE INPATIENT FACILITY? WELL, THE RIGHT, OR WITH THE, WITH THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITY ONLY 18 MORE.
SO RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN GUESS AT THE NUMBERS, WE HAVE THIS OUTLINED IN THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT, THAT WE SUBMITTED.
SO LET ME GO TO MY SEAT AND TRY TO PULL THAT UP.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH, REGARDING ACUTE FOR THIS, UH, BEHAVIORAL MENTAL FACILITY, IS THAT A LOCKDOWN? IT, IT, IT'LL BE A LOCKED, UH, FACILITY.
SO ONCE YOU GET IN THERE, THE PATIENT CANNOT GET OUT BY THEMSELVES? NO.
THE OTHER ONE WAS WHEN YOU MENTIONED INVOLUNTARY, INVOLUNTARY MEANING ALL, OR AT LEAST 80% OF THEM, 83 YEAH.
WILL BE COMING IN THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
LIKE HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN INVOLUNTARY? HOW, HOW DO THEY GET TO BECOME INVOLUNTARY? SO, UH, ALL THE, WE TYPICALLY WE HAVE AN INTAKE ADMITTING DEPARTMENT THAT GETS THE INQUIRY OR GETS THE CALLS.
UH, AND THEN, UH, WE, UH, WE HAVE OUR OWN, UH, UH, PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATION TECHNICIANS OR CLINICIANS.
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ARE DONE VIA VIDEO.AND, UH, TO EVALUATE WHETHER THAT PATIENT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR 51 50.
WE DON'T TAKE THEM UNLESS THEY QUALIFY FOR THE CRITERIA.
I GUESS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THE, IS THE PATIENTS COMING THROUGH THEIR FAMILIES OR THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS OR USUALLY BROUGHT RIGHT NOW? UM, FOR THE INVOLUNTARY ONE, FOR THE INVOLUNTARY ONES, WE GET THEM FROM, UH, A LOT OF EMERGENCY ROOMS. OUR COUNTY CONTRACTS, OUR, UH, SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES.
UH, THEY HAVE PATIENTS WHO ARE DECOMPENSATING FROM THEIR SCHIZOPHRENIA, BIPOLAR, THAT TYPE OF, UH, DIAGNOSIS, BUT WE DON'T REALLY, UH, ADMIT THEM UNLESS THEY QUALIFY FOR, THEY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR 51 50 FOR INVOLUNTARY, AND THEN THEY ONLY STAY THERE ABOUT EIGHT TO 14 DAYS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY GET TRANSFERRED SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UH, IT DEPENDS ON, UH, THE TYPE OF PATIENT, IF THIS IS YOUR HEART, UH, VERY CHALLENGING, UH, PATIENT, WE USUALLY RECOMMEND, UH, FOR THE PATIENT TO GO INTO A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY TO CONTINUE THE NEW TREATMENT, UH, MODALITY.
BUT SKILLED NURSING IS ONLY LAST ABOUT 30 DAY OR SO AFTER THAT IS THERE, IT DEPENDS IF THE PATIENT, UH, DOES WELL IN THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY AND IS ABLE TO GO BACK TO THEIR LOWER LEVEL OF CARE, LIKE ADULT RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, UH, CONTINUING, UH, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL FACILITY OR TRANSITIONAL FACILITY, THEN WE WOULD, UH, DO THAT TYPE OF DISCHARGES.
SO EVENTUALLY THEY'RE, THEY HAVE TO GO TO SOME TYPE OF FACILITY, NOT EVENTUALLY GOING OUT BACK TO THE, IT DEPENDS, THERE ARE PATIENTS THAT WHO CAN GO BACK DIRECTLY TO THEIR APARTMENT OR THEY CAN, FAMILIES WILL TAKE THEM BACK HOME.
THE GOAL IS WITH THESE PATIENTS IS TO TREAT THEM AND HELP THEM GET BETTER AND GET BACK TO NORMAL LIVES.
SOME PATIENTS CANNOT RETURN BACK TO NORMAL LIVES AND NEED CONTINUOUS CARE AND TREATMENT AND THEY END UP IN THE SYSTEM FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE PATIENTS THAT ARE ON THE FENCE AND SOMETIMES HAVE EPISODES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, MIGHT FIND THEM WALKING AROUND, A POLICE OFFICER DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM, BRINGS THEM TO THE HOSPITAL AND DROPS 'EM OFF AND SAYS SOMETHING'S WRONG.
AND AT THAT CASE, THE HOSPITAL REACHES OUT TO MS. VICKI AND MS. VICKI HELPS TREAT THEM, UH, GET THEM BACK TO A STABLE POINT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES TO GET BACK ON ON THEIR FEET.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON, UH, THE PATIENT, HOW THEY RESPOND TO THE NEW TREATMENT, UH, MODALITY AND THE NEW MEDICATIONS THAT WE ESTABLISH IN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, AT THE HOSPITAL.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA, YOU DON'T WANNA CREATE THIS NEW MODALITIES AND THEN THE PATIENT GOES BACK TO A LOWER LEVEL OF CARE.
NO ONE IS SUPERVI SUPERVISING THIS PATIENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PATIENT IS MEDICA ME MEDICATION COMPLIANT OR, YOU KNOW, OR IS REALLY FULLY, UH, UH, REHABILITATED TO GO BACK TO, TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO FOR THE 20% VOLUNTEER AND THE 80% IN VOLUNTEER, THE ENTIRE CAMPUS IS LOCKED DOWN? IT'S LOCKED DOWN.
WHETHER IT'S VOLUNTEER OR INVOLUNTARY, THEY JUST CAN'T OPEN THE DOOR AND GO INTO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE HUNGRY BECAUSE IT'S, UH, IT HAS IN AN INPATIENT PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY, UH, IT IS A STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATION REG, AND WE'RE HEAVILY REGULATED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE SECURITY OF THE CLIENTS AND THE SAFETY OF THE CLIENTS AND THE STAFF ARE PARAMOUNT.
I KNOW WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE SUBJECT OF PARKING, BUT NOW THAT I HAVE THIS BUSINESS PLAN, AND, UH, MR. LEWIS, YOU HAVE THIS WITH THE WEST COVINA HEADING UP? YEAH, I, SO THIS WAS THE THING I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
OKAY, SO SHE'S SAYING, SO, SO SHE'S SAYING THERE WILL BE ON AVERAGE 50 ON SITE.
SO WE, WE SORRY THAT WE WEREN'T PREPARED FOR THAT.
WE WROTE THIS DOWN AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WE COULD PLAN THIS OUT, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE WERE PLANNING THE BUILDING IN ITS OCCUPATION, SO THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH EDITION ITSELF, THE NEW 71 BEDS WILL HAVE 50 TOTAL STAFF.
RIGHT? THAT'S NOT AT ONCE THOUGH, RIGHT.
SO 16 IS THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT'S FOUR PER FLOOR, RIGHT? UH, DURING PEAK SHIFT WITH SHIFTS STARTING 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM AND ANOTHER 7:00 PM TO 7:00 AM.
SO WHEN WE'RE COUNTING CARS, WE'VE GOT 16, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKERS THAT ARE THERE WITH CARS.
AND THE REALITY IS NOT ALL OF THEM USE CARS.
SOME OF THEM CARPOOL, SOME OF THEM BUS, SOME, SOME WALK.
UH, BASED ON MS. VICKI'S EXPERIENCE WITH HER CURRENT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FLOORS THAT SHE HAS AT DOWNTOWN LA THERE'S
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NOT A LOT OF VISITORS.SO WE HAVE LESS THAN FIVE VISITORS PER DAY IN THESE GENERAL HOURS BASED ON THESE BEDS.
SHE'S GOT MANY SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES, OTHER BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITIES, THEY'RE NOT VISITORS ONE PER PATIENT EVERY NIGHT.
SO WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LISTED OUT WHAT WE THINK IS REASONABLE BASED ON HER EXPERIENCE AS FIVE VISITORS A DAY.
AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT'S IN OFF PEAK HOURS AND WE HAVE 10 DROP OFFS PER DAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT DROP OFF CAN USE THAT BACK ENTRANCE OR WOULD USE THAT BACK ENTRANCE.
SO IT'S NOT A VEHICLE THAT'S PARKING THERE.
AND THEN WE MENTION THAT LENGTH OF THAT LENGTH OF STAY.
IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND PAGE, IT CALLS OUT THE EXISTING SUBACUTE HOSPITAL, WHICH HAS CURRENTLY 16.
UH, AND THIS IS WHERE MS. BOBBY, UH, IS OFTEN AT 16, TOTAL NUMBER OF STAFF DURING PEAK, UH, 10 DRIVE, WE COUNTED THEM.
UH, AND OTHERS USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, ONE TO TWO VISITORS A DAY FOR THOSE, THOSE LONG-TERM PATIENTS THAT ARE THERE.
AND THEN THAT MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING IS THE, WHERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE PLANNING A CHANGE OF USE RIGHT NOW, WE JUST VACATED THE TENANTS.
SO THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 24 STAFF THERE DURING PEAK BECAUSE THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT DIFFERENT SUITES RENTED OUT WITH FOUR TO SIX VISITORS PER HOUR.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD THIS ALL UP, UH, YOU KNOW, 16 STAFF, ONE VISITOR, 16 STAFF, 10 DROP OFFS, I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET TO VERY HIGH NUMBERS OF PARKING IS WHAT WE DETERMINE FOR THIS TYPE OF PATIENT CARE.
BUT YOU, BUT CURRENTLY YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO, TO CHANGE BACK TO THE PRIOR EXISTING USE AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
WITHOUT ANY SAY FROM US, CORRECT? UH, YOU MEAN ON ON ON THE MOB? YEAH.
UH, I, I THINK THAT, UM, WE COULD ADD THOSE NUMBERS IN AND STILL AC ACCOMPANY THAT WITH THE, WITH THE 123 PARKING SPACES, TAKE A, YOU KNOW, TAKE A DRIVE BY IT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT PARKING LOT IS LARGELY EMPTY.
I'VE BEEN THERE TWO TIMES FOR A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT AND I COULD NEVER FIND A SPOT.
AND IT SEEMED LIKE THE PARKING LOT WAS ACTUALLY VERY, UM, I MEAN, IT WAS JUST VERY MESSY THE WAY IT WAS.
IT WASN'T ORGANIZED ONE ON SITE, LIKE RIGHT.
AND I BOTH TIMES I HAD TO PARK ACROSS THE STREET.
AND YOU, YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T EVEN AWARE THAT THERE WAS A PARKING ACROSS UNDER WHERE ALL THOSE TREES ARE.
NO, I THOUGHT THAT BELONGED TO THE OTHER BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
SO, SO AS PART OF THIS, AS WE WORK WITH THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT CROSSWALK NEEDS TO BE ENHANCED, YOU KNOW, AND UH, THAT, THAT PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY BECOME, BECOME MORE APPARENT THAT THAT'S THE PARKING.
I GUESS THROUGHOUT THIS EVENING IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE THREE PARKING SPACE.
ONE OF 'EM IS THE MAIN HOSPITAL OR MENTAL AREA THAT YOU ARE BUILDING.
THEN THERE'S ACROSS THE STREET TO THE RIGHT THAT WAS OWNED BY THE OWNER.
THEN THE OTHER TO THE LOWER, ACROSS THE STREET TO THE LEFT, THE RIGHT, NOT THE LEFT
ANYWAY, UM, THOSE TWO PARKING IS QUESTIONABLE.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW MANY TOTAL PARKING WITHOUT THOSE TWO PARKING THAT ARE CURRENTLY FOR THE NEW BUILDING AND ALSO FOR THE ENTIRE COMPASS, WHICH IS FOR THE SENIOR, ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT PARKING FOR IF YEAH.
LET ME, SO I'M GONNA ASK TWO THINGS.
ONE, I'M GONNA JUST CLARIFY IN THE MAP, AND THEN I'M GONNA ASK JOANNE TO GO BACK TO THE, THE NUMBER SLIDE REALLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS MEETING, WE SHOULD FORGET ABOUT, SORRY, GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE.
OH, IN THE, IN THE TOP LEFT PICTURE ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND SIDE.
CAN WE PUT A MOUSE OVER IT? JOANNE, CAN YOU PUT THAT PICTURE JUST BY ITSELF? I THINK YOU HAVE IT EARLIER.
I DON'T JUST, JUST THE BUILDING ITSELF.
SO THIS IS OUR SITE HERE AND THERE ARE PARKING SPACES HERE.
WHEN THE NEW BUILDING IS PUT IN, WE DO LOSE THESE PARKING SPACES, RIGHT? THIS PARKING LOT CURRENTLY HEAVILY UNDERUTILIZED.
IT'S THIS ENTIRE SQUARE, LARGE, RIGHT OUT OF CONVENIENCE.
AND LIKE FOR YOUR LAST VISIT,
SOME OF THE PEOPLE HAVE DONE THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS MEETING.
YOU KNOW, I ASK YOU TO IGNORE THIS LOT.
WE HAVE THIS LOT WITH THE PARKING AND WE HAVE THIS LOT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THE WHOLE FUNCTIONAL PROGRAM AND OPERATING PROGRAM IS BASED AROUND USING BOTH OF THESE.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT OUR VARIANCE REQUEST IS ABOUT.
UH, AND OUR PARKING CALCULATIONS ARE ONLY OFF OF THIS.
IN REALITY, WE WANTED THIS BUILDING TO STAND ON ITS OWN, YOU KNOW, THIS, BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THEY'RE
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OWNED BY THE OWNER, SORRY, WE INTRODUCED IT.BUT, AND ANTICIPATING THIS, OR BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE PARKED THERE BEFORE, MS. VICKIE HAS MADE EXTRA EFFORTS TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE AUTO PARTS STORE OVER THERE TO BE ABLE TO USE SOME SPACES.
AND NOW SHE'S SPENDING EXTRA MONEY JUST TO HAVE THAT IN HER BACK POCKET.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT OUR, OUR OPERATING PLAN AND OUR PARKING STUDY SHOWS THAT WE CAN SERVE THIS BUILDING THROUGH THESE TWO LOTS.
SO WITH THE, THE PARKING AREA THAT THE OWNER OWNS, HOW MANY SPACES THAT, CAN YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE, UH, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A WRONG ANSWER HERE,
UM, CAN YOU GO TO SIDE WITH THE NUMBER ONE ACROSS ONE ACROSS THE STREET? 72, NOT AT THE AUTO, PLEASE.
SO THERE ARE 72 IN THE LOT ACROSS THE STREET.
ON OUR COULD, COULD YOU PLEASE COME UP PLEASE? THANK YOU.
OUR ARCHITECT CATHERINE, UM, ON THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING MUCH PARKING, IT'S GONNA BE REDUCED.
SO I THINK THERE'S 20 SOMETHING ON THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
THEN WE'RE PROVIDING 130 SPACES.
'CAUSE THERE'S, WE'RE PROVIDING 150 TOTAL.
SHE CHAIR, I MAY, UM, ACROSS THE STREET THERE'S 132 PARKING SPACES.
AND ON SITE THERE ARE, THERE'S GONNA BE 18 PARKING SPACES.
WE DIDN'T COME WITH THAT REHEARSED.
THIS IS A, WE WORKED ON THAT MANY MONTHS AGO.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE 150 PARKING SPACES TO DATE.
WE'VE NEVER COUNTED MORE THAN 123 CARS, WHICH IS, THAT'S CURRENTLY TODAY WITHOUT THE NEW FACILITY BEING BUILT.
AND WITHOUT THE MOB OPERATING AT ALL.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S WITH THE MOB OPERATING, THAT'S WITH THE MOB OPERATING.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OF TRAFFIC THERE.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT IT WILL WORK OUT.
YES, WE HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT THIS WILL WORK OUT, UH, AND, AND THEREFORE APPLIED FOR THAT VARIANCE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED TIRELESSLY WITH TAHA AND WITH LLG TO DO THE STUDY AND MULTIPLE SITE VISITS.
SO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ALSO BASICALLY TIED THE OWNER'S PROPERTY WITH THE PARKING.
THAT'S 132 TO THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY? YES.
AND IT DOES SAY IN THE REPORT THAT IF PARKING BECOMES AN ISSUE, UM, AND WE COULD REVISIT THE CUP AND THE VARIANCE, UH, JOANNE, UM, OR OUR ATTORNEY.
THIS QUESTION WOULD BE FOR YOU GUYS AT, AT WHICH POINT, UM, COULD THAT BE BROUGHT UP OR ASSESSED? IS IT ON AN INTERVAL LIKE TWO YEARS OR IS IT AS NEEDED? IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THIS.
UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THIS BROUGHT BACK, UM, AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN TWO YEARS, THEN WE WOULD DO SO.
UM, OR, UH, TYPICALLY IN OTHER PROJECTS, IT, IT WAS AT A COMPLAINT.
SO WHEN WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS WITH PARKING, UM, MAINLY, UM, PEOPLE CALLING THE CITY OR, OR, UM, OBSERVED BY OTHER CITY STAFF, POLICE DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, PLANNING STAFF, ENGINEERING STAFF, UM, WE THEN WE WOULD TALK TO THE APPLICANT AND INITIATE BRINGING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
HOW MANY OTHER FACILITIES DO YOU HAVE, MS. VICKI? HOW MANY OTHER FACILITIES DO YOU HAVE?
MS. BE, UH, SO, UH, THE LA DOWNTOWN CAMPUS IS, UH, AT 1711 WEST TEMPLE.
AND THEN THE ROSEMEAD, UH, CAMPUS, WHICH IS ONLY 15 MINUTES AWAY, WE HAVE 118 BEDS AND HOPEFULLY THE 71 BED FACILITY THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THE CITY TO APPROVE FOR BUILD.
I'M SURE THAT ALL OF YOUR STAFF MEMBERS ARE SPECIALIZED IN MENTAL HEALTH.
UM, HAVE, HAVE THEY HAD ANY INCIDENTS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, CAUSE ANY, YOU KNOW, UM, DAM UH, DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY? NO, MA'AM.
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SO THEY, I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS TYPE OF CARE THAT YOU, THEY ALL ARE, I MEAN, I'M, I JUST, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING AND HOW WELL ARE THEY TRAINED TO HANDLE THAT TYPE OF PATIENT? SO, UH, BECAUSE OF THE REGULATIONS, UH, WE DO HAVE MANDATED IN-SERVICES FOR THE STAFF, WHETHER IT'S, UH, MONTHLY OR, UH, ONCE IN EVERY QUARTER OR, UH, SEMI-ANNUAL AND YEARLY.AND, UH, WE'RE ACCREDITED BY THE JOINT COMMISSION FOR THE HOSPITALS.
AND, UH, THEY COME EVERY YEAR? NO, EVERY THREE YEARS.
UH, DEPARTMENT OF, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH COMES EVERY YEAR FOR SURVEYS.
AND CMS ALSO DOES, UH, THE ANNUAL SURVEY.
AND THEY'RE ALL EXPERIENCED, NOT STUDENTS.
THEY ABOUT, THEY DO CHECK THE LICENSE IS, SORRY TO INTERRUPT THE LICENSING IS THERE LVNS RNS.
WE EVEN HAVE, UH, NPS NOW AT THIS POINT.
WHAT WAS THAT? NATIONAL? UM, NURSE PRACTITIONERS.
SO, SO LICENSED PROFESSIONALS LI YES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS LOOKING FOR, FOR CONFIDENCE IN, IN THE STAFFING, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO YOU TO HAVE CLARITY ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
AND IT'S A, IT'S BEEN PART OF A, OF A BIG MISSION WORKING ON THE B CHIP, THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONTIN, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATION PROGRAM.
AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING US AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING GOOD WORK FOR YOU.
UM, OH, ALSO, UM, FOR THOSE WHO ARE SPEAKING EARLIER, COULD YOU, I DIDN'T GET A CARD, SO COULD YOU FILL OUT ONE CARD FOR US? NO, THE APPLICANTS, DO YOU HAVE A, A CARD? I ONLY HAVE ONE FOR, UH, BRAD MANNING.
OH, FOR ADAM, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, I WANNA THANK YOU JUST FOR NOTE, I SPENT 10 YEARS ON THE COVINA PLANNING COMMISSION, ANSWERING AND ASKING ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WERE GIVING TODAY.
AND I'M SURE GLAD I'M ON THIS SIDE, NOT ON YOUR SIDE TONIGHT.
UH, BY THE WAY, DO I STATE WHERE I LIVE? OR YOU JUST TAKE THAT OFF THE CARD, BUT IF YOU WANT TO NO, WE USED TO DO THAT OVER AT THE OTHER PLACE.
UH, 2 1 3 1 OH, EAST COVINA BOULEVARD IN COVINA, CALIFORNIA.
I'M ACTUALLY NOT A RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA, HOWEVER, I HAVE BEEN NAMED CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY IN REGARDS TO COMMUNITY EVENTS.
AND I'M REALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS, THIS PROJECT, AND I LOOK AT IT FROM A THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW AS SOON AS I WAS GONNA TALK, I WAS GONNA GET HOARSE, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ONE.
I'M THE FORMER PRINCIPAL AT WEST COVINA HIGH SCHOOL, UH, FROM A
UM, AND IF THERE WERE LOCAL BEDS, THAT WAS NICE.
MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE NOT, A LOT OF THOSE BEDS ARE IN LA AND FAMILIES ARE DISPLACED AND HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I'M EXCITED THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE A FACILITY WHERE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO KEEP THE KIDS LOCAL HERE FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF OUR, OUR FAMILIES.
I ALSO LOOK AT IT FROM OBS, UH, A PARTNERSHIP STANDPOINT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY SITE.
AND WE HAVE HAD SOME INFORMAL TALKS ABOUT THAT, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO APPROVE THIS, THIS PROJECT.
I'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT, JUST OVER FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, UH, MY GRANDSON, WHEN HE WAS IN FOURTH GRADE, HAD AN EPISODE IN WHICH HE HAD TO BE TAKEN TO INTER COMMUNITY TO BE EVALUATED AND WAS TRANSPORTED TO LA.
AND SO FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THE NEED FOR IT.
AND I THINK THAT, AND THIS WAS 10 YEARS AGO, 15 YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, AND IT'S ONLY GOTTEN WORSE.
THE NEED FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR AREA TO SERVE OUR FAMILIES IS MUCH NEEDED.
AND TO HAVE FACILITY AND EXPERTISE RIGHT HERE IN OUR OWN BACKYARD, I THINK IS, IS REALLY POSITIVE.
I ALSO LOOK AT IT FROM, I ALSO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DEL HAVEN COMMUNITY CENTER.
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DOES A LOT OF AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS AND DEALS WITH, UM, UH, OTHER ISSUES THERE, THEY HAVE NOW STARTED A PROGRAM, AND I'LL SAY THE WORD WE HAVE STARTED NOW THAT I'M ON THE BOARD, HAVE STARTED A PROGRAM CALLED BECAUSE, CALLED BECAUSE WE CARE, TIM SEAL, THE, UH, OWNER.AND, UM, UH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT HIS TITLE IS NOW 'CAUSE HE'S KIND OF STEPPED ASIDE FROM DIRECTOR, I GUESS.
HE'S CEO, UM, HIS FATHER WHO STARTED DEL HAVEN COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THIS IS PUBLIC, I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF HAT, HE'S SPOKEN ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES, SUFFERED FROM MENTAL ILLNESS AND EVENTUALLY TOOK HIS LIFE.
UM, TIM'S BROTHER, UH, WHO HELPED HIM RUN THE PROGRAM ALSO SERVED, HELD, HAD MENTAL ILLNESS PROBLEMS AND EVENTUALLY TOOK HIS LIFE.
AND THEN HIS SON WAS HAVING PROBLEMS. AND FORTUNATELY HE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO GIVE HIM THE PROPER HELP, AND HE'S NOW IN GREAT SHAPE.
UH, BUT HE HAD A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE HE HAD PROBLEMS, UH, AND HE LOOKED AROUND AND HE LOOKED AT HIS COMMUNITY, WHICH SERVES WEST COVINA AND SAYS, THERE'S NOT A LOT HERE.
SO HE AND HIS OWN ACCORD HAS STARTED A PROGRAM CALLED BE CALLED, BECAUSE WE CARE.
IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS IN, IN EXISTENCE NOW, IN WHICH THEY HAVE GONE ON AND CONTRACTED WITH, UH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOR EVALUATIONS, TREATMENTS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THAT ERIC BEOV IS OUR NEW DIRECTOR, HAS WRITTEN A LETTER OF SUPPORT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD IN WHICH WE CAN TAP INTO SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES TO HELP HIS PROGRAM AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS FROM A PERSONAL, FROM A PROFESSIONAL, FROM A, A COMMUNITY ASPECT.
AND I REALLY THINK THIS IS A PO A A, A POSITIVE THING.
YOU HAVE TO GET BY THE, THE THINGS LIKE PARKING AND, AND BEAUTIFICATION AND NEEDS.
UM, AND I WISH WE HAD MORE THAN 10 BEDS DESIGNATED FOR WEST COVINA, BUT, UM, I THINK THE, THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE IT HERE, THAT WE EVENTUALLY CAN BUILD PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE CITY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND, AND THE, AND THE SITE ITSELF IS REALLY POSITIVE AND WELL WORTH DOING.
AND, UH, WITH THAT, I THANK YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM.
AND YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THIS.
I WAS GONNA GO IN AS ALL THIS STUFF AND I'M GOING, I DON'T KNOW HALF AS MUCH AS WHAT, YOU KNOW, SO I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT.
AND OF COURSE, DARIO, HE LIVES IT.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ELSE? I I, I WILL, I WILL ADD ONE LAST THING.
WEST COVINA MEDICAL AS A INSTITUTION IS A GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNER WITH WEST COVINA, WITH MY WORK WITH THE WE WEST COVINA KIWANIS CLUB, WITH OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE GROUPS, WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES AND ACTIVITIES THAT WE GET INVOLVED IN.
THEY ARE IN IT A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH US.
AND I JUST LOVE THEM AS A COMMUNITY PARTNER.
AND I THINK THE CITY COULD REALLY DO WELL BY, BY CREATING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS.
UM, DO WE HAVE THOSE WHO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT? UM, SEEING NONE WHO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS.
WELL, I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED QUITE A BIT IN ASKING QUESTIONS.
UH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
MY MOTION WILL HAVE THREE BULLET POINTS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IF MY COMMISSION AGREES, UH, THAT, UH, THE LANDSCAPING BE CLEANED UP.
AS, AS MENTIONED, THE SECOND CONDITION WOULD BE, UH, THAT WE REVISIT THE PARKING, UM, TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, IT WILL JUST BE AN AS NEEDED BASIS AS DISCUSSED, UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON COMMUNITY COMPLAINTS.
AND THE THIRD ONE, UH, THAT BRAD JUST MADE ME THINK OF IS THAT IF IT ANY POINT IT BECOMES HELPFUL FOR WEST COVINA TO, UH, USE MORE THAN 10 BEDS, THAT THAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED.
AND THAT'S ALL FOR ME AND COMMISSIONERS.
I, I WOULD, I I WANT TO SECOND IT.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.
UM, SO, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, I THINK IT'S UP TO 10 PER DAY, UH, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
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THAT'S ACTUALLY BETTER THAN YOU THINK IT IS.YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY, AND, UM, AND, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE PARKING ISSUE, THE ONLY THING I, I WANT TO GET CLARIFIED IS I KNOW THEY DO HAVE THAT OFFSITE, UH, THAT OFFSITE PARKING.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK, UM, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT ANY SATELLITE PARKING THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE, UM, IS INCLUDED IN ANY STUDY WHEN IT DOES COME BACK.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY RANDOM DISTORTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, IF, IF WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO PARK ON THE OFFSITE PARKING THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT THE, UH, THE, THE 150 IS SUFFICIENT.
SO THAT, THAT'D BE THE ONLY SORT OF, YEAH.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, IS JUST TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
AND THEN, AND THEN I'D SECOND IT IF WITH THAT AMENDMENT, I'M COOL WITH THAT.
SECOND, AND, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING ELSE THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING? NO.
UM, IN THAT CASE, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
THIS, UH, ADDITION, THIS DECISIONS WILL BE FINAL UNLESS A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR APPEAL IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS.
AND WE SHOULD TALK MORE ABOUT MENTAL FACILITY.
IT'S A GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
WHERE'S NEXT? WE'RE MOVING ON TO NON-HEARING ITEMS, HONORING ADAMS. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE
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V REVIEW OF UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NUMBER 3 4 8.ADDRESS IS 2 7 4 8 EAST GARVEY AVENUE, THE FIVE STAR N JOANNE, UM, WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.
I WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT.
FIVE, UM, FIVE STAR INN IS AN EXISTING OPERATING MOTEL, UM, WITHIN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
UM, IT IS, IT IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO, TO, UM, CRESTVIEW CADILLAC TO THE WEST, UM, DAYS INTO THE EAST AND THE WALNUT CREEK WASH TO THE SOUTH.
UM, IT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF GARVEY AVENUE EAST, JUST SOUTH OF THE I 10 FREEWAY.
UM, THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS ACROSS THE WASH, APPROXIMATELY 24 FEET AWAY FROM THE SITE.
UH, THE, THE SITE, THE USE IN THE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE WAS INITIALLY APPROVED THROUGH, UM, AN UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT.
THE UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT IS, IS BASICALLY THE SAME THING AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THE CONDITIONAL USE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS, IS THE MO THE MORE
UM, THIS ITEM WAS LAST REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING THE ITEM BACK TO THE, UM, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN FIVE MONTHS.
UM, JUST A REVIEW OF THE, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES SINCE, SINCE AUGUST, 2024, SINCE THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW.
UM, AND JUST TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND, THE MOST RECENT CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE WAS OPEN IN MAY 3RD, 2023.
UM, THIS CASE HAS NOT BEEN CLOSED BECAUSE, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE, THAT, UM, WAS PART OF THIS CASE WAS THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS DONE IN THE UNITS WITHOUT PERMITS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE OBTAINED THOSE PERMITS ARE
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AND ARE, ARE, AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE PERMITS FINALIZED, FINALIZED WITH THE CITY'S BUILDING DIVISION.HOWEVER, SINCE, SINCE THEN, UM, SINCE LAST AUGUST, 2024, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, SEV SEVERAL ONGOING CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES, UM, INVOLVING GRAFFITI, UM, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES SUCH AS, UM, A GREENS SWIM POLE IN AND ILLICIT DISCHARGE AND DEAD LANDSCAPING, UM, WINDOWS WITHOUT PROTECTIVE SCREENS, ABANDONED SHOP SHOPPING CARTS, AND, UH, PILES OF TRASH ON SITE LOITERING, UM, OUTDOOR STORAGE.
AND ALSO, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS, OBSER HA HAS OBSERVED THAT, UM, THE, THE, UM, BUSINESS OWNER HA HAS WERE PRE WAS PREVIOUSLY WORKING WITH A NONPROFIT THAT DROPPED OFF UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS ON, ON THE SITE.
HOWEVER, ACCORDING TO THE BUSINESS OWNER, THE, THE HOMELESS VOUCHER PROGRAM THAT HE HAD WITH, UH, THE NONPROFIT HAS BEEN TERMINATED.
UM, AND HE IS IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, REMOVING THE LONG-TERM TENANTS, UM, WHICH AT THIS POINT HAS BEEN MOSTLY REMOVED FROM, FROM THE SITE.
UM, HERE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CODE ENFORCE, UM, FROM, FROM WHEN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE OBSERVED, UM, THE VARIOUS CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN, FOR THE RECORD.
UM, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPING ISSUES.
UM, I DIDN'T WANNA INCLUDE PICTURES OF PEOPLE LOITERING, UM, WHAT THEIR FACE IS SHOWING.
SO THIS IS A PHO THIS ON THE LEFT IS A PHOTOGRAPH THAT I FOUND WHERE THERE'S, I GUESS A PART OF, UH, PEOPLE
UM, HOWEVER, SINCE THE CODE ENFORCEMENTS OFFICER'S LAST VISIT TO THE SITE, MOST RECENT VISIT, WHICH WAS ON FEBRUARY 3RD OF THIS YEAR, UM, THE ISSUE, UM, IT, IT HAS BEEN OBSERVED AT THE ISSUES THAT OF PREVIOUSLY PENDING CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED AND HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
AND THESE ARE PICTURES TAKEN OF THE, OF THE SITE, UM, WITH THE SITE CLEAN.
AS FAR AS POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE IS CONCERNED, SINCE FROM JANUARY 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2023, THERE WERE 95 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
UM, IN FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2024 TO JANUARY 27TH, 2025.
AND SINCE THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE HAVE BEEN A TOTAL OF FOUR FOUR CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE SITE.
UM, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CAPTAIN PLUNKETT, UM, IS HERE, UM, AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, UM, BY, UM, ASKED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS QUESTIONS REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CALLS FOR SERVICE.
AND ALSO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY'S CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, DEPARTMENT HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT RELATED QUESTIONS.
UM, AND AS FAR AS PLANNING COMMISSION OPTIONS ARE CONCERNED, UM, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSS THE UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT, UM, AND ALSO THE PLAN, UM, AFTER DISCUSSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN, UM, CAN DIRECT STAFF TO START THE, UM, UUP MODIFICATION OR REVOCATION PROCESS
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WITH THE PROPER PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATION.OR, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ALSO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING THE ITEM BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR, FOR DISCUSSION AT A LATER TIME OR JUST SIMPLY TO RECEIVE AND FILE WITH THAT.
UM, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CAPTAIN? YES.
CAPTAIN KEN PLUNKETT FROM THE WEST CAMINO POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOW CAN I HELP YOU HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO FIRST? GO AHEAD.
WELL, THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS IN, IN GENERAL TYPES OF WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AND, UH, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL? WHAT DO I THINK WOULD BE, WHAT HELPFUL WITH RESOLVING, UH, ANY KIND OF, UH, DIFFICULTIES WE MAY BE HAVING? UM, I'LL ANSWER THAT PART FIRST.
IT, IT SOUNDS, IN TALKING TO, TO MYLAN WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND STUFF, THE PROPERTY HAS, HAS CLEANED UP SOME OF THEIR, SOME OF THEIR ISSUES.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT, UH, SOME OF THEIR LEASE AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN REVOKED AND IT, THE BUSINESS HAS KIND OF RETURNED BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
UM, THE, THE, THE TYPICAL CALLS, THE KEEP, THE PEACE, THE DISTURBANCES, THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL HAVE, UM, AT, AT PLACES.
I WAS, I WAS ASKED TO PULL SOME NUMBERS AND DO A COMPARISON, UH, COMPARED TO THE, UH, OTHER HOTEL IN THE AREA, THE CALL VOLUME IS PRETTY SIMILAR.
UM, WE AVERAGE, IT'S JUST UNDER, YOU KNOW, TWO CALLS A WEEK THAT WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND IT'S BEEN CONSISTENT FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
UM, SO I THINK THE CALL VOLUME HAS STAYED ABOUT THE SAME.
UH, I, I LOOK AT, UH, ARREST NUMBERS AND STUFF.
THERE'S NOTHING REALLY THAT STANDS OUT THAT'S, UM, SUPER SIGNIFICANT FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT I HAVE FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THE, THE CALLS HAVE BEEN RELATIVELY THE SAME, ESPECIALLY AT BOTH LOCATIONS.
SO IT SEEMS TO JUST BE THAT AREA THAT ATTRACTS, UM, THE CALL VOLUME AND, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE MOVING IN POSITIVE DIRECTION AS FAR AS CLEANING UP AND WHAT WE HAVE OVER THERE.
SO I, I THINK IT'S MOVING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED WITH WHAT I'M SEEING AND WHAT I'M TALKING TO MILAN ABOUT FEEDBACK.
SO IT'S GET IT'S GOTTEN BETTER.
YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER, DEFINITELY.
AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW LIVE HERE.
ANYTHING ELSE? UM, NO, I, I, I DID HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT NEXT EVENING.
MATTHEW REZA, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER.
SO AS FAR AS WE COULD SEE, UH, AND JUST LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, JUST EVEN SIMPLE THINGS, I COULD PULL THAT GREEN THAT THEY CLEAN UP, AND THEN IT'S A GREEN AGAIN.
SO HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY IMPROVEMENT WITH THE UPKEEP OF THE PROPERTY? SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT? UM, ESPECIALLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, WE HAVE NOTICED THAT, UM, PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEEN, UM, PICKING UP CONSISTENTLY ON A, UM, DAILY BASIS AND, UM, MAINTAINING THE POOL AND ALONG WITH, UM, JUST OTHER, UM, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
HOW OFTEN, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY CODE ENFORCEMENT, NOT BABYSITTERS, BUT HOW OFTEN DO YOU HAVE TO GO OR DO YOU PATROL THE PROPERTIES, BOTH OF THE, ANY OF THOSE HOTELS THERE? YEAH, SO, UM, TYPICALLY WE GO ABOUT, UM, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS AN ONGOING CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE, WE USUALLY GO WEEKLY, UM, AT LEAST MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK.
UM, I WAS ACTUALLY OUT THERE TODAY AND THE PROPERTY LOOKED, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY, UM, BETTER, UM, IN MY OPINION.
UM, SO YEAH, OVER THE PAST, UH, UH, THERE'S NINE INSPECTIONS SINCE, UH, SEPTEMBER OF, UH, SEPTEMBER 19TH.
BUT THAT'S JUST INSPECTIONS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UM, LOG IN AS A, AS A, UH, FULL PROPERTY INSPECTION, BUT WE DRIVE THROUGH ALL THE TIME AND CHECK ON IT.
SO DO YOU THINK THAT'S JUST INADEQUATE STAFF THAT WHY THEY, THEY CAN'T KEEP, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE IS TRASH THERE.
WE SEE THE PICTURES, WE SEE THAT THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LANDSCAPING, IT'S DIRTY, THERE'S GRAFFITI, UM, KNOW
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AMPLE TIME FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CLEAN THIS UP, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE WITHIN 24 HOURS.I MEAN, UM, OR, OR SOONER, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE LEFT THERE.
UM, I HAVE TO WONDER IF, IF, IF THE, UM, THE OWNER ACTUALLY TAKES THIS SERIOUSLY BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF I HAD BEEN BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRIOR, I WOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING.
YEAH, NO, UM, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE OWNER AND HOW IT WAS DONE BEFORE.
UM, I KNOW THAT SINCE WE'VE HAD, UM, OPEN DIALOGUE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, HE HAS BEEN RESPONSIVE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON PRIOR OR WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
WE, WE DO GIVE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ON OUR NOTICES.
UM, WE DO RECOMMEND THAT, YOU KNOW, DAILY CLEANUPS, UM, AND, UH, JUST MAKING SURE THAT HIS STAFF DOES, UH, UM, CLEAN, YOU KNOW, ROOMS DAILY AND MONITOR THE PROPERTY DAILY.
HE DOES HAVE AN ONSITE MANAGER WHO I BELIEVE IS HERE TODAY AS WELL.
UM, THAT EXPRESSES, YOU KNOW, HIS, UH, HIS CONCERNS AS WELL.
UM, AND SO FAR IT'S BEEN, UM, SINCE THIS, THESE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS I'VE SEEN IMPROVEMENT.
SO, UM, UM, COMPARED TO OTHER HOTELS, I MEAN, DO YOU, I MEAN, GRAFFITI, WHAT HAVE YOU, DO YOU SEE THEM ON OTHER HOTELS WELL AND WHAT HAVE YOU? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, IT'S GRAFFITI'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM, UM, THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL CITIES LA COUNTY.
AND, UM, BUT WE DO ADDRESS 'EM, UM, AS WELL.
UM, THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR JUST KIND OF RISE TO THE OCCASION OF, UM, NUMEROUS, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSTANT CALLS WITH, UH, SERVICE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ONGOING, UM, UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS CAUSING, YOU KNOW, CAUSING A MESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, THIS CASE WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT, UM, GRAFFITI WE DO ADDRESS, UM, CITYWIDE WITH A FEW, FEW MOTELS THAT WE HAVE.
IS IT A COMMON PROBLEMS FOR BUS CONVENIENCE WITH GRAFFITI? UM, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEAL WITH.
UM, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A, UH, YOU SEE IT QUITE A BIT, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DEAL WITH IT AND WE TRY TO, UM, WORK WITH EACH PROPERTY OWNER, UM, GET GETTING THEIR, UM, THEIR CONTACT DIRECTLY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST DO, UH, ESTABLISHING THAT DIALOGUE TO, UM, CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY AS NEEDED.
ON JANUARY 16TH, 2025, BUSINESS OWNERS CONTRACT WITH NONPROFIT THAT DROPPED OFF UN UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS TO THE SITE FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING, APPEARS TO HAVE SEIZED, APPEARS TO HAVE SEIZED.
HOW, UH, WHO'S VERIFIED THAT? UM, I HAVE NOT PER, I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY VERIFIED THAT.
UM, THE OWNER HAS, UM, BEEN IN CONTACTS WITH US, UM, AND BASED OFF OF THE ACTIVITY AT THE PROPERTY, IT HAS SUBSTANTIALLY, UM, DIED DOWN AS FAR AS, UM, SEEING PEOPLE CONGREGATE, LOITER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, EMAIL COMMUNICATION CONFIRMING THAT, BUT, UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING FROM THE OWNER THAT SET IN STONE THAT IT HAS BEEN, UM, THAT IT HAS BEEN ENDED THE VOUCHER PROGRAM.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS PROBLEM? UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OWNER? I MEAN, FILE CODE ENFORCEMENT? NO.
CODE ENFORCEMENT CODE, THANK YOU.
DOES ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UM, QUESTIONS FOR THE OWNER OR THE OPERATOR OF THE APP? THE, THE, THE OWNERS OF THE HOTEL MANAGERS AND OPERATOR PROPERTY? YEAH.
WELL, I'LL GET, I'LL GET STARTED IF YOU DON'T.
UH, WELL, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME PROGRESS THAT'S MADE, BUT I DO WANNA ASK ABOUT THE, THE GREEN SWIMMING POOL AND WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT HAPPENED THERE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN OF NOT JUST THE UNSIGHTLINESS, BUT MOSQUITOES BEING A HUGE PROBLEM IN, NOT ONLY IN OUR AREA, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT HAPPENED WHEN THE POOL WAS, WAS GREEN IN AUGUST AND, UH, STILL IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR? WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WHAT HAPPENED, BUT AT THE SAME DAY WHEN HE TOOK THE PICTURES, THE ACTUALLY SWIMMING GUY CLEANER, HE CAME AND CLEANED THE POOL, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHY HE WAS STILL CLEAN.
AS SOON AS WE RECEIVED IT, HE CAME BACK AND CLEANED IT AGAIN.
SO I'M NOT SURE AT THAT POINT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED, BUT THERE WAS ONLY FOR LIKE MAYBE ONE OR TWO DAYS, I WOULD SAY.
MAYBE HE WASN'T THERE FOR THE CLEANING.
MAYBE HE WAS SHORT OF STUFF, I'M NOT SURE.
BUT AS SOON AS WE RECEIVED THE NOTICE, IT WAS CLEANED RIGHT AWAY.
SO IT WAS CLEANED, BUT, AND THEN IT HAPPENED AGAIN? NO, IT WAS FOR THE, LIKE ONE TIME.
SO FROM AUGUST 30TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 21ST, IT WAS, IT WAS
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GREEN THAT ENTIRE TIME? NOT THE ENTIRE TIME.I'M ASKING IN THAT WAY, BECAUSE HERE IT SAYS AUGUST 30TH IT WAS GREEN, AND THEN AGAIN, SEPTEMBER 21ST, IT WAS GREEN ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S 22 DAYS DIFFERENT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF IT WAS TWO INCIDENTS OR IF IT STAYED GREEN.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU DON'T RECALL.
WELL, THE, THE DETAILS OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR RECOLLECTION, THAT'S OKAY.
THE MAIN POINT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE THOUGH IS, UM, THAT IS A PRETTY SERIOUS CONCERN.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE BE SURE YOU HIRE THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR THAT.
MOSQUITOES ARE A BIG CONCERN, YOU KNOW, MORE SO THAN THE UNSIGHTLINESS, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, AS OF RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE SERVICE CLEANER GUY, THE POOL CLEANER GUY, HE COMES TWICE A WEEK SINCE THAT PROBLEM HAS BEEN SOLVED ALREADY.
FROM MY, UH, LET ME ADD THIS, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN, UH, MANAGING OR OWNING, OPERATING THE HOTELS.
UM, THE CLIENTELE THAT WE HAD, UH, THE LONG-TERM, UM, HOMELESS VOUCHER PROGRAMS, AND A LOT OF KIDS, THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, PROPER SWIMMING CLOTHES, SO THEY JUMP IN WITH THE T-SHIRTS, THE COTTON THAT EATS THESE CHLORINE VERY QUICKLY.
SO EVEN IF THE POOL GUY CLEANS HIS TODAY, AND IF THEY'RE IN THERE ALL DAY LONG, NEXT DAY YOU WILL SEE IT TURNS GREEN.
BASICALLY THAT CHEMICAL, THIS, THE COTTON CLOS SOAKS US UP REAL QUICKLY.
SO, BUT LIKE, UH, THE ANNU SAID THAT WE HAVE INCREASED IT, BUT PRACTICALLY WE SEE THAT THOSE KIND OF CLIENTS NOT THERE ANYMORE ANYWAY.
SO THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF THE WATER AND THE CLEANLINESS.
YOU COULD PROBABLY ALSO STOCK SOME CHLORINE TABLETS FOR, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WERE TO HAVE AN INCIDENT LIKE THAT.
AND MOSTLY, LIKE YOU SAID, THE SEPTEMBER, A AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, IT WAS A SUMMER MONTH.
IT WAS VERY HARD TO GET THE KIDS OFF OF THE POOL, OUT OF POOL.
SO THEY WERE USING OVERUSING AND WITHOUT THE PROPER SWIMMING.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT GRAFFITI.
UH, WHO DOES YOUR GRAFFITI ABATEMENT? DO YOU GUYS DO IT YOURSELVES OR WHO DOES IT? UH, OUR MAINTENANCE GUYS.
AND DO YOU GUYS HAVE LIKE A STANDARD COLOR OF PAINT THAT'S READY TO GO, LIKE IN UTILITY CLOSET OR HOW, HOW DO YOU GUYS MANAGE THAT? UM, JUST THE REGULAR PAINT.
BUT WHAT, WHAT I'M ASKING IS, UM, DO YOU HAVE LIKE COLOR MATCH READY, UM, BUCKETS OF PAINT YES.
IT SEEMS THAT WOULD BE THE, YEAH, QUICK AND EASY WAY OF DOING IT IS HEAVY.
MOSTLY WE SAW THAT IN ELEVATOR WHERE IT'S VERY HARD TO CATCH WHO'S DOING IT.
AND, UH, STAIRCASES, THE RAILINGS PARTICULARLY, AND THE BOUNDARY WALLS, UH, A LOT OF TIME PEOPLE JUMP OFF OF, UH, AGAIN, THAT THE WASH AREA THAT I WAS MENTIONING LAST TIME AS WELL.
UM, NEXT DOOR, THE CADILLAC DEALER HAS THAT BARBED WIRE.
I WOULD DEFINITELY PUT THAT ON THAT SITE, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT I'M NOT, IT'S NOT PERMITTED.
UM, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF ANY WAY WE CAN BLOCK THAT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT THE GUESTS THAT IS STAYING IN THE HOTEL, BUT THEY'RE RIDING THE BICYCLE.
THEY EVEN LIFT THE BICYCLE UP AND BRING IT INTO OUR PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THE ONLY PROPERTY HAS CLEAR WALL WITHOUT ANY, UH, OBSTACLES.
THE NEXT DOOR DAYS IN HAS THOSE, UH, UH, GLASS ON THEIR BOUNDARY WALL, UH, GLUED TO THE WALL.
SO ANYBODY WERE TO TOUCH IT WILL GET CUT, CANNOT CROSS.
SO I'M THE ONLY ONE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT CAN, UH, DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM COMING INTO OUR PROPERTY.
I'VE SEEN IT, PEOPLE COMING FROM THERE, THEY'RE LOITERING, THEY'RE DOING THE GRAFFITI AND STUFF, SO WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A CONTROL OVER THEM, BUT WE DO WHAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR PROPERTY.
HOW OFTEN DO YOU CLEAN OR HAVE SOMEONE WHO DOES MAINTENANCE TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY, TO GO AND LOOK FOR TRASH AND CLEAN TRASH? EVERY DAY? PRACTICALLY EVERY DAY WE HAVE THE HOUSEKEEPERS, THEN THE MAINTENANCE MAN DOES IT AND DOES THE GOVER.
GARDNER, WE HIRED THE GARDNER WHO WAS DOING THE BLOW, BLOWING THE PARKING LOT ONCE A WEEK AND NOW TWICE, ONCE, TWICE A WEEK NOW SINCE WE NOTICED, UM, LAST, UH, AUGUST, I BELIEVE WHEN, WHEN WE
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WERE HERE LAST TIME, SINCE THERE, WE INCREASED THAT TWICE A WEEK AS WELL.WELL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE, SO PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU SAW IS NOT THE CURRENT ONE.
THAT WAS FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE.
I BELIEVE SO NOW, NOW IF THERE'S NO LONGER, UH, SHOPPING CARTS AND TRASH AND, UM, NO DEAD LANDSCAPING.
SO YOU ALSO HAVE, UH, FAMILIES WHO ARE LIVING THERE FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.
WE HAD NO LONGER, THERE'S ONLY ONE, RIGHT? THE ONE 14? YEAH, ONE 14.
WELL, THERE'S ONE, BUT SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR LIKE, SHE 10 YEARS OR MAYBE MORE.
SHE'S NOT FROM THE VOUCHER PROGRAM THOUGH.
SO HAVE, SINCE THESE, UM, SINCE CODE ENFORCEMENT REPORTED THESE, YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE MORE, UM, YOU'VE ADDRESSED IT MORE, SO YOU'VE ADDED THE DAYS FOR THE CLEANUPS? YEAH, WE ADDED THE DAYS TO CLEAN UP ALMOST DAY, BUT IT'S NOT EVERY DAY.
I MEAN, SOMEBODY SHOULD BE GOING OUT THERE EVERY MORNING TO LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY AT NIGHT.
IN THE MORNING WHEN THE HOUSEKEEPER COMES, UH, THEY SWEEP THE PARKING LOT.
I MEAN, THEY PICK UP THE TRASH IN THERE.
THE HOUSEKEEPERS ON TOP OF, ON THE HOUSEKEEPERS ON TOP OF IT.
WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE GUY THAT HE COMES ONCE OR TWICE.
HE DOES IT A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL, GOES AROUND IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
AND I, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THE GARDENER WHO'S ASSIGNED TO DO THE GARDENING AS WELL AS THIS PROPER, UH, BLOW BLOWING THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT.
SO, SO WAS HE COMING TWICE A WEEK WHEN THESE, ALL THESE ITEMS WERE HAPPENING? WAS HE COMING TWICE A WEEK? NO, HE WAS NOT THERE.
HOW OFTEN WAS HE COMING? HE WAS COMING ONCE A WEEK.
DO YOU THINK MAYBE YOU MIGHT NEED HIM TO COME MAYBE THREE TIMES A WEEK OR SO? PROPERTY IS CLEAN ALL ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING.
UM, ALSO THE HOUSEKEEPER, WHEN THEY LEAVE AFTER WORK, THEY ALSO CLEAN BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE PARKING, WHO DOES THE HOUSEKEEPER? THEY ALSO CLEAN THE MORNING AND THEY ALSO CLEAN BEFORE THEY LEAVE, BEFORE THE WORK.
SO THE PARKING LOTS GETS CLEAN TWICE A DAY AND THE MORNING AND THE NIGHT EVENING.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE SECURITY? NO, WE DON'T.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED GETTING SECURITY? HONESTLY SPEAKING, WE ARE BARELY MAKING PAYMENTS RIGHT NOW.
UM, SINCE THE VOUCHER PROGRAM IS GONE, IT'S TOTALLY DOWN LESS THAN 50%.
IT'S VERY HARD TO MAKE THE ENDS MEET RIGHT NOW.
WE HAD TO LET SOME EMPLOYEES GO TO FOR NOT HAVING ENOUGH WORK.
UM, DON'T YOU THINK THAT MAYBE BRINGING UP THE LEVEL A LITTLE HIGHER MIGHT HELP REVERSE THAT TREND? I'M SORRY.
WELL, WHAT'S THE QUESTION? UH, MAKING IMPROVEMENTS LIKE WITH SECURITY, MORE PAINTING MAY ELEVATING THE, THE LEVEL SECURITY IS NOT THE CONCERN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO CRIME THAT THAT'S THE REASON.
BUT THE MAIN REASON IS THAT EVEN THOUGH IF YOU LOOK AT THE INSIDE WE IMPROVEMENT THAT WE, WE HAVE DONE SINCE I BOUGHT IT, I HAVEN'T HAD THESE, UH, FOR MAYBE LESS THAN A YEAR OR SO IN MY POSITION, NOT EVEN, YEAH, NINE MONTHS.
BUT SIGNIFICANTLY, WE IMPROVE THE CONDITION INSIDE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THE BETTER CLIENTELE WITH THE OUTSIDE APPEARANCE THAT HAS, UH, IMPROVED WITH THIS VOUCHER PROGRAM IS GONE.
UH, BUT IT TAKES TIME, UH, TO HOPEFULLY, BUT IN GENERAL, BUSINESS IS SO DOWN IN, NOT ONLY IN THIS CITY, BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE TOO.
PARTICULARLY ON, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF THE 10 FREEWAY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE HOTELS ON THE NORTH SIDE ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO SOLD OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S DUE TO THE FIRES.
MAYBE DUE TO THE FIRES, BUT YEAH, NO, THE HAMPTON WAS FOR SALE.
I LOOKED AT THEIR DATA, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY BETTER.
THEY'RE DOING LIKE 65% OCCUPANCY WHEN
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THEIR MARKETING PACKAGE WAS OUT.SO IN GENERAL, LIKE I SAID, AT 2024 WAS DOWN AND 25 DOESN'T LOOK THAT GOOD EITHER.
SO HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WHEN BUSINESSES PICKS UP AND UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET BETTER BUSINESS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE TAKING A HIT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO MANAGE IT THE WAY IT IS.
UH, THE QUIET, CLEAN BUSINESS AND NO VOUCHERS.
IS THAT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY IN TERMS OF GOING IT DOWN FOR 24, 25 THAT YOU'RE THINKING? YES.
ANY PARTICULAR REASON DO YOU THINK? DO YOU HAVE ANY? I THINK THE OVERALL TOURISM IS DOWN A DOLLAR IS SO STRONG, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY INTERNATIONAL TRAVELERS THAT THEY USED TO COME.
CHINA, NOBO, ALL THESE, BASICALLY, I WOULD SAY WEST COAST WAS FULL OF CHINESE TOURISM.
UM, BUT SINCE, UH, FIRST, UM, TRUMP ERA, UM, IT'S NOT THERE.
THEY WERE A VERY BIG PART OF THE, UH, TOURISM BUSINESS.
UM, AND NOT SO MANY TRAVELERS.
LIKE I SAID, COVID ALSO WAS PART OF IT LONG.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S MORE LIKE IT.
YEAH, IT HASN'T PICKED UP SINCE, SINCE THEN.
AND I DON'T KNOW, WITH THIS, UM, CURRENT ICE RATES, IT HAS TAKEN THE ECONOMY INFLATION.
THE LOCAL, THOSE THAT THEY USED TO COME AND SPEND NIGHT OR TWO IN THE HOTELS, ESPECIALLY WEEKENDS OR SO, THAT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED TOO.
SO IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT UNFOLDS IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE ICE RAID AFFECT THE ECONOMY FOR THE LOCAL STAYS? THAT'S MY GUESS, BECAUSE I, I SEE LESS TRAFFIC IN SO MANY AREAS, PARTICULARLY HOTEL OWNERS.
WHEN WE MINGLE, WE TALK ABOUT IT.
AND THEN THAT'S, PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, THOSE BEFORE THIS HAPPENED, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.
I DOUBT THAT'S BEEN AFFECTING YOU.
I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S ONLY BEEN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT ONLY COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT OVERALL SINCE BEFORE THE IMMIGRATION, SINCE HE WAS ELECTED.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE THEY KNEW THE STORM WAS COMING HAS ALREADY LEFT.
WE'RE IN PLAN OF LEAVING THE STATES, UNITED STATES ANYWAY.
UM, WHAT ABOUT YOUR ANAHEIM HOTEL? HAS IT BEEN AFFECTED THAT MUCH? ANAHEIM ALSO HAS BEEN AFFECTED, BUT, UH, NOT AS HARD, BUT STILL, YEAH, ANAHEIM IS VERY SEASONAL.
UM, LIKE IF YOU'RE SPRING BREAK, YOU HAVE LOCAL TRAVELERS, THEY COME AND STAY AND, BUT INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL IS VERY LESS, UH, ANAHEIM.
UH, A LOT OF, UH, CONVENTIONS BUSINESS THERE TOO.
BUT SO LIKE ON THE 15TH OF THIS MONTH, EVERY PROPERTY IS SOLD OUT, BUT THAT'S JUST LIKE, UH, FOR A FEW DAYS OUT OF WHOLE MONTH.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THEN WE'LL HAVE NO, NO.
DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO CAMERA SYSTEM CURRENTLY? YES, WE DO.
SO DID YOU PICK UP ANY GRAFFITI DOER? ONCE I PICKED UP, BUT THEY WERE FROM THE VOUCHER.
WE, THEY ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE.
WE'LL HAVE A COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
ANYONE WANNA START FIRST? SURE.
I MEAN, MY, MY CONCERN IS THE, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT'S, UH, LOOKING BETTER NOW, BUT MY CONCERN IS THE PRIOR VIOLATIONS OF, UH, THIS, UH, WHAT WAS IT? UH, THE OLD NAME FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UUUP, UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT.
A LOT OF THE CONDITIONS ON THAT UUP WERE NOT BEING MET.
UM, I THINK BRINGING THE PROPERTY AND OPERATIONS UP TO A HIGHER LEVEL WOULD, DO YOU DO THAT OWNERS WELL, UM, THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT SECURITY AND I ASKED ABOUT THE CAMERAS.
UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE CONDITIONS ACTUALLY, IT'S, UH, THAT SUCH USE WILL NOT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE PARTICULAR CASE BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH SAFETY PIECE OR GENERAL WELFARE OF PERSONS RESIDING OR
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WORKING IN THE VICINITY OR INJURIOUS TO PROPERTY OR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE VICINITY, ET CETERA.THERE'S MORE THAT WERE NOT BEING MET.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED ABOUT THE POOL.
YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT'S RESOLVED, BUT I THINK IN GENERAL, UM, TO NOT CONTINUE TO VIOLATE ANY PROVISIONS OF THIS PERMIT AND TO NOT REQUIRE US TO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS PERMIT.
ONE RECOMMENDATION I'LL MAKE, AND I'LL SEE IF MY COMMISSIONERS AGREE WITH ME, IS I'D LIKE TO SEE SECURITY AND THE ADDITION OF A FLOCK CAMERA TO THE SITE.
UM, AND I'LL LEAVE THE REST TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO, UH, GIVE US SOME INPUT.
ANYONE ELSE? WELL, I, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS CODE ENFORCEMENT SAID THAT, UH, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S COMPARABLE TO OTHER HOTELS, UH, ADJACENT OR IN THE AREA, OR SIMILAR, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT EXCUSES THEM FROM HAVING SECURITY.
I MEAN, HE DOES HAVE SECURITY, HE HAS FREE SECURITY.
AND, UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING FOR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REQUIRE HIM TO HAVE THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IF HE HAS SOMEONE ELSE HAS SIMILAR ACTIVITY AND WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE IT.
SO I, I MEAN, HE IS MAKING AN EFFORT, UH, TO, UM, IMPROVE THE PROPERTY AND THE CONDITIONS THERE.
UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT, I THINK SAID HE'S GOING THERE TWICE A WEEK, OR IS, IS THAT WHAT HE SAID? TWICE A WEEK RIGHT NOW? ONCE A WEEK OR SO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN I, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REVISIT THIS AGAIN AND SEE IF THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS CONTINUE.
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU BILL COMMISSIONER LEWIS? YEAH, I MEAN, I'M, I I I, I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY WITH REGARD TO REQUIRING SECURITY, UM, OR REQUIRING ONSITE SECURITY.
I, UH, MY, MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, HOW, HOW DO YOU ENSURE THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST COMPLETELY HOSING THE BUSINESS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S JUST ECONOMICALLY UNVIABLE AT THAT POINT IN TIME? THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THE FLOCK CAMERAS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIG PROBLEM WITH THE FLOCK CAMERA STUFF IS I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DATA TO SUPPORT THAT IT'S DETERRING ANY CRIME.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IS A FLOCK CAMERA LITERALLY ON THAT STREET RIGHT IN FRONT OF MCINTYRE SQUARE.
THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER ENTRY POINTS.
I THINK THERE'S, UH, AN IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, UM, DOWN THE STREET AS WELL.
BUT, UM, I MEAN, I, I, I, I ALWAYS, I JUST QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THAT, THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE MOST OF THE STUFF THAT I SEE, UM, IN THAT AREA, UM, TENDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ON FOOT, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING WHATEVER.
IT'S, IT'S NOT USUALLY PEOPLE IN VEHICLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I SEE CONSTANTLY AS BEING AN ISSUE IS THE WASH RIGHT BEHIND THERE.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, THAT, UM, THAT LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE, THE MEDICI OR WHATEVER IT IS, UM, THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF, OF VERONICA AND, UH, AND VIRGINIA HAS CONSTANTLY, I MEAN, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO CLEAN THE BACK OF THE, THE CARPORTS ALONG THAT, UH, ALONG THAT WASH AREA.
SO, I MEAN, I, I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S AN AREA THAT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, YOU KNOW, SO LONG IS THAT, SO LONG IS THE, THE WALNUT CREEK WASH IS KIND OF THIS, UM, ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE THAT IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PREVENT A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY THE, HOPEFULLY THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL, WILL, UH, WILL CONSIDER MAYBE, YOU KNOW, RAISING THE FENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD IDEA.
AND, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY, IF, UH, IF THAT IS AN ISSUE, UM, PLEASE COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW ON THAT FRONT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE OUR CODE ON THAT SO THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE AN ISSUE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S BAD ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE VOUCHER PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEED TO MAKE MONEY, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD, A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD, AND IT'S A, IT CAN BE A PROBLEM FOR THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING.
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YOU GUYS HAVE MOVED ON FROM THAT, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS STAY MOVED ON FROM THAT.UM, YOU KNOW, AND TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.
SO JOANNE, THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, STUFF IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF LIKE INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS? YES.
THEY'RE WORKING WITH BUILDING THE BUILDING DIVISION PLANNING, WENT OUT THERE AND, UM, DID A, UM, PLANNING FINAL.
UM, BUT THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON BUILDING THE BUILD WITH THE BUILDING DIVISION IN, IN FINALIZING THEIR PERMITS AND EVENTUALLY CLOSING THEM OUT.
AND THIS IS TO, TO UPGRADE THE INTERIOR OF THE, UH, OF EACH OF THE ROOMS OR, YES.
AND ON, ON THAT NOTE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO INCORPORATE IN THAT APPLICATION, UM, WHAT THEY MENTIONED ABOUT ADDING SOME SORT OF SECURITY TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM HOPPING OVER IN THE BACK? OR WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION? UM, IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.
WELL, IF THEY WERE GOING TO ADD IT WILLINGLY, THEY CAN, THEY CAN GET PERMITS OR TO INCREASE THEIR FENCE, UM, HEIGHT.
BUT IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO, TO ADD IT IN THE CONDITION, UM, THEY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO MODIFY THE, UM, UUP AND THE PROPER PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATION PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AND FOR THE UUP MODIFICATION.
BUT, UM, THE, THE, UM, A OR THE BUSINESS OWNER ALSO HAS AN OPTION OF INCREASING THE FENCE HEIGHT AND ADDING SECURITY ON THEIR OWN AS WELL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A WILLINGNESS THERE AND A REQUEST.
SO I THINK, UM, WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT A CONDITIONAL, A CONDITION OF THE UUP.
SO I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL JUST LET THE APPLICANT DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU OR THE, THE BUSINESS OWNER DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN SINCE THEY SEEMED INTERESTED.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL.
I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT PERHAPS THE CURRENT OPERATOR OR A HOTEL OWNER HAD INHERITED SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HE PURCHASED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
SO SINCE A YEAR AGO, UM, HE HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT ACCORDING TO OUR CAPTAIN AND ALSO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, THERE ARE SOME STUFF THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, KEEP UP WITH, AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL KEEP UP WITH THE AREA, THE HOTELS AND SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT YOU HAVE.
YOU HAD ALSO MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE GOING TO WHETHER INCREASE THE WALLS OR PUT SOME BARB WIRE, UM, FROM PREVENTING FROM THE PEOPLE FROM THE WASH COMING IN.
HOPEFULLY YOU WOULD, UH, VOLUNTEERS TO DO THAT YOURSELF VERSUS, UH, HAVING OUR COMMISSIONERS TO PUT SOME CONDITIONS.
I LIKE TO SEE, UM, HOPEFULLY IT'S STILL ONLY BEEN UNDER A YEAR, HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURES IT CONTINUES TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, UM, THAT WE MONITOR JUST LIKE WHETHER IT'S, UH, SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR FROM NOW, JUST TO SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, OPERATION, OPERATION IS MOVING SMOOTHLY OR NOT.
UM, WE LIKE TO SEE THE RIGHT DIRECTIONS THAT YOU'RE MOVING, LIKE CURRENTLY WITH WORKING WITH OUR OFFICERS IN OUR, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT IT IS MAKING, UM, IMPROVEMENT.
SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID AND DONE, UM, I LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN PERHAPS BRING THIS BACK WHETHER IT'S UM, IF OUR, UM, COMMISSIONS AGREED, WHETHER IT'S SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR FROM NOW, UM, SEE IF THERE'S SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.
HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT, LOOK, IIII THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT'S ONGOING IS OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PERMITTING PROCESS, JO, JOANNE, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER THAT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR, FOR THAT STUFF TO GET TAKEN CARE OF? SO THAT'S NO LONGER A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE? OR, OR DO, DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON THAT? UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM TO FINALIZE IT.
I I WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE LONGER, IT SHOULDN'T BE LONGER THAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
IS IT BUILDING OR PLANNING? IT'S IN BUILDING FOR BUILDING, BECAUSE IT'S BUILDING, I THINK THEY HAVE SIX MONTHS THAT THEY HAVE TO CALL FOR INSPECTIONS OR IT CAN LAST UP TO FIVE YEARS.
BUT WE WENT OUT, WE HAD TO CONFIRM THAT THEY WERE ALMOST DONE.
I'M SORRY, THEY WERE ALMOST DONE.
SO HOPEFULLY AFTER THAT'S DONE.
SO, SO CONCEPTUALLY, IF HERE'S, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I'M THINKING IS, LOOK, IF THERE AREN'T ANY MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND THAT, AND THAT IS BUTTONED UP, YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, YOU KNOW, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I DON'T SEE ANY NEED TO HAVE THIS COME BACK, BUT IF THERE ARE ISSUES, IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, THEN I THINK IT COMES BACK IN SIX MONTHS.
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DON'T WANNA HAVE A HEARING ON NOTHING.THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
UM, SO IF, IF WE'RE HAVING A, IF, IF WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS GOES BY, NO MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THERE'S NO OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY MERIT OUR ATTENTION AND OUR TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I SAY AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THERE'S NO NEED TO COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS, BUT IF THERE IS IN SIX MONTHS AND WE CAN SET A DATE CERTAIN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW OR, OR GIVE OR TAKE, UM, AND THERE ARE ONGOING ISSUES, I, I THINK I, I, I THINK WE BRING THIS EXACT SAME ITEM BACK THEN.
AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT, OKAY, DO WE NEED TO DO A MODIFICATION? DO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT REVOCATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I THINK THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, RATHER THAN HAVING STAFF, YOU KNOW, WASTE TIME DO DOING A REPORT, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND, AND DOING, UH, DOING WHAT A RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS OWNER IS DOING.
UH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
I THINK IT'S NOT WASTING THE STAFF'S TIME TO DO THIS.
I THINK WHAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE IS SOMETHING THAT I HAD ASKED FOR BEFORE.
UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE A REPORT OF ANY AND ALL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA THAT ARE HAVING, UH, PROBLEMS WITH, WITH ANY, UM, NUISANCES.
SO WE, WE'VE YET TO PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA TO FIND OUT AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE A MONTH WE SHOULD HAVE A, A REPORT.
SO WHAT, WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING? IS THERE A REPETITIVE, IS THERE, ARE THEY REPETITIVE WITHIN, UH, ANY BUSINESS? YOU KNOW, OR IF ANY OF THE BUSINESS ARE HAVING PROBLEMS, MAYBE THEY CAN REPORT IT.
SO IT COULD COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION, LET THE RESIDENTS SPEAK, LET US, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON UNTIL IT HAPPENS SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE JUST SEE THESE WALLS AND WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PATROL THE CITY.
SO IT, IT HAS BEEN, I MEAN, THE CURRENT OWNER HAS BEEN MAKING IMPROVEMENT AND I LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE.
AND THE ONLY WAY TO SEE THAT IS TO PERHAPS BRING IT BACK WITHIN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR FROM NOW.
UM, THIS WAY WE CAN MONITOR, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IN, AND WITHIN THAT GIVEN TIME, WE CAN BE EVALUATE TO SEE IF THE CURRENT OPERATOR IS MOVING THE TO TOWARD THE RIGHT DIRECTIONS THAT WE LIKE TO SEE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLAN.
I'D LIKE TO SEE SIX MONTHS WITH THE INPUT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT IF IT BECOMES NECESSARY NPD, BUT I WOULD ALSO THROUGH THE CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO ASK CAPTAIN PLUNKETT TO COME BACK.
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, PLEASE.
CHAIR BEFORE, BEFORE THE, UH, THE COMMISSION TAKES A MOTION OR ACTION, JUST PLEASE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WELL, WILL BASICALLY OPENING IT UP THE PUBLIC HEARING MEETING AGAIN.
JUST THE QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE FLOCK CAMERA.
DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY BENEFIT TO CONSIDERING THAT IN THAT LOCATION? UM, I'M A, I'M A FAN OF FLOCK CAMERAS, SO I, I WOULD THINK THERE'D ALWAYS BE A BENEFIT, BUT, UM, MR. LEWIS BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.
UM, THE MORE CAMERAS IN THE CITY, THE BETTER.
UM, WHETHER YOU MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT ON A BUSINESS OR NOT ISN'T UP TO ME.
BUT IN GENERAL, OUR DATA SHOWS THAT THE, THE ONES WE HAVE AVAILABLE HAVE BEEN.
BUT GIVEN RESULTS SHOWS THAT IT LEADS TO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ARREST AND THE, THE, THE CRIME DATA THAT YOU'RE DETERRING IS VERY HARD TO DETERMINE.
UM, EVERY TIME YOU ARREST SOMEBODY WHO'S OUT COMMITTING CRIMES, YOU'RE ACTUALLY DETERRING MORE CRIMES FROM OCCURRING.
SO TO, TO COMPUTE THAT NUMBER IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GIVE YOU A WHAT HAS IT DETERRED.
BUT, UM, I WOULD SAY FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, NOT ONLY DOES IT HELP US CATCH, UM, CRIMINALS, BUT IT ALSO HELPS US DETER CRIME IN THE CITY FOR SURE.
I JUST HAVE A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, ONE, I ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS ONCE YOU GET INTO OVERSATURATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS THAT ARE HIGH CRIME, YOU JUST END UP HAVING SCENARIOS WHERE PEOPLE JUST TAKE OFF THEIR PLATES AND THAT'S THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, RE REALISTICALLY, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THAT UNSOLVED MURDER THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, OR THAT OCCURRED A FEW YEARS AGO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY ON, ON AMAR AND AZUA, THAT'S PROBABLY STILL UNSOLVED, IS BECAUSE THAT PERSON PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE A PLATE.
UM, AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE FLOCK CAMERAS AT THE TIME.
WELL, YOU KNOW, BESIDES, BESIDES, I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU HAVE PASSIVE STUFF, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WHEN PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE MONITORED, THEY DISGUISE THEMSELVES.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
OUR DESCRIPTION DATA IS VERY HELPFUL FOR
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INVESTIGATIONS AS WELL.AND THE FLOCK CAMERAS DO PICK THAT UP, SO IT'S NOT YEAH.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY, I MEAN, PEOPLE TAKE THEIR PLATES OFF NOW AND, AND I GET YOUR POINT.
I MEAN, IT'S THEIR PLATES FOR THE, IT'S, IT'S NOT, THE CAMERAS STILL HELP US.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A PANACEA, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I, I I, I GUESS THE, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF LEADS ON APPREHENSIONS OF SUSPECTS, WHAT, UM, WHAT DATA DO YOU HAVE ON THAT? I MEAN, IN TERMS OF THAT BEING A HELPFUL TOOL? BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION THAT, THAT I'VE ASKED AND I, I HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN AN ANSWER ON.
I MEAN, FROM FLOCK DATA, HOW IT, FROM FLOCKED DATA, HOW MANY FLOCK DATA, THE ARREST IT'S LED US TO.
WE HAVE THAT DATA AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT, UM, SURE.
AT, AT, AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
IF YOU CAN PASS IT ALONG TO STAFF AND GET IT TO ME, I, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT JUST 'CAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF ADOPTED THIS WHOLESALE PRACTICE OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR, FOR THE GAS STATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT OF, OF MAKING THAT A REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, FOR ALCOHOL PERMITTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I, I WANTED TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ANY EFFICACY BEHIND IT.
I THINK YOU'D BE VERY PLEASED.
IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT TOOL AND RESOURCE THAT WE'RE USING IN THE CITY FOR SURE.
I'M, I'M HONESTLY GLAD TO HEAR IT.
I HONESTLY HAVE, HAVE NOTHING TO SAY NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE ON IT.
THAT'S WHY I, I'M SAYING I QUESTION THE EFFICACY.
'CAUSE NO ONE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.
NO ONE'S BEEN PUBLICIZING THAT DATA, SO SURE.
WE'LL, UH, WE'LL WORK TO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.
SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAMERA, HOW MUCH DOES THOSE CAMERA COST? IT'S A SUBSCRIPTION BASIS.
THEY COST AROUND, I, I CAN'T QUOTE THE EXACT PRICE, BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE AROUND $3,000 A YEAR.
AND THERE'S AN INSTALLATION FEE THAT GOES WITH THAT AS WELL.
NOW WE COULD CHECK, UM, THE AUDIENCE.
DO WE HAVE ANY THAT WANT ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO COME UP IN FAVOR OR AGAINST ANYONE OUT THERE? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND DO WE HAVE COMMISSION DISCUSSION AGAIN,
NOW TO, UH, COMMISSIONER LEWIS'S POINT, UM, I DEFINITELY WOULDN'T WANT TO, UH, PUT THEM OUTTA BUSINESS, BUT I THINK THEY COULD ALSO HAVE SOME LEEWAY IN DETERMINING, YOU KNOW, THEIR OWN SECURITY NEEDS.
UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I, I'M GONNA DISAGREE WITH WHAT THE OWNER SAID ABOUT THE HOTEL.
THE HOTELS I'M FAMILIAR WITH ARE SEEING, UM, CLOSE TO FULL OCCUPANCY.
SO I REALLY BELIEVE THAT KEEP KEEPING THAT PROPERTY IN BETTER ORDER AND, AND SAFER IS POSSIBLE AND IS WHAT'S NEEDED.
A FLOCK CAMERA IS CHEAPER THAN A SECURITY GUARD, RIGHT? YEAH, IT SURE, IT SURE WILL BE.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THE DIFFICULTY I'M HAVING WITH, WITH THE COMMENTS ARE THAT I JUST DON'T SEE THE LACK OF DEMAND IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY.
I THINK IF, IF IT'S DONE RIGHT, UM, THE DEMAND IS THERE.
SO THAT'S, UM, I, AND I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT'S GOING ON.
I MEAN, OKAY, WE CAN'T REALLY BLAME EVERYTHING ON COVID, BUT IT HAS AFFECTED THE TOURIST INDUSTRY.
AND, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THE OPERATOR WAS NOT THIS PARTICULAR NEW OWNER, AND IF IT'S DATED INSIDE, IT DOES TAKES TIMES TO, YOU CAN SAY, RENOVATE ALL THE NEW, BRING IT UP TO DATE, TO ALL THE 70 SOMETHING, UM, ROOMS. SO WITH, THEY'RE WORKING TOWARD IT WITH OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENTS, IMPROVING SOME OF THE ROOMS. SO HOPEFULLY WITHIN THAT, AND WE KEEP AN EYE OUT, HOPEFULLY WITH THE, WITH THE NEW HOTEL THAT BRING IN NEW CLIENTS AND HOPEFULLY THE NEW OPERATORS OPERATE THE PLACE MUCH BETTER AND HOPEFULLY BEST IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK WE NEED THE, THE, THE RIGHT OPERATOR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME BUSINESS MINDSET OR, OR, OR SKILLSET.
UH, BUT I THINK, UM, AS I MENTIONED ALREADY THAT I, I THINK I, I KNOW THAT COULD BE DONE BETTER AND PROPERLY.
SO, UM, I MEAN, SOME OF THE ISSUES WE TALKED ABOUT THAT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM OUR PD AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE RESOLVED.
I JUST HOPE THOSE WEREN'T TEMPORARY BANDAIDS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP
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REVISITING THIS ISSUE FOR BECAUSE, UM, I, I REALLY THINK A, A GOOD HARD LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THIS, THIS PERMIT IS, SHOULD STILL BE ACTIVE, NEEDS TO BE KEPT IN FOCUS.UM, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WITH THE INPUT OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE SHOULD CONSIDER MAYBE NOT A DATE CERTAIN, BUT TO REALLY HAVE A HARD LOOK AT THIS WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
'CAUSE I I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A REVOLVING DOOR OF NONSENSE, REALLY.
WE SHOULD REVISIT THIS IN SIX MONTHS.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SH YOU KNOW, POLLS TURNED GREEN IN ONE DAY.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, I THINK THE, THE CLEANUP HAS TO BE CONSISTENT AND, UM, WE COULD TAKE IT FROM THERE.
I MEAN, UH, FROM THAT POINT, IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, I I'M NOT SURE IF THE CALLS OF THE IMPROVEMENT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THEY'RE GONNA GET ANY LESS THAN THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
THIS SEEMS, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT THE CAPTAIN HAS SAID, THAT THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD WITH'S, THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS.
BUT, UM, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE IT.
IF, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A FLOCK CAMERA, WE CAN DISCUSS IT MAYBE IN SIX MONTHS.
SO, JOANNE, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OR CAN WE JUST, UH, YOU ARE GONNA, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS TO BRING, UH, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO US IF WE WANNA MAKE A MOTION WITH CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW, OR IF WE WANNA BRING IT BACK, BUT WHAT DO YOU SAY? DO YOU WANNA, I, I STILL, I, I WANT TO, I, MY MOTION STILL STANDS FOR FLOCK, CAMERAS AND SECURITY AS ADDED CONDITIONS.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
UM, PUBLIC, MAY I JUST CLARIFY, ARE YOU ASKING FOR IT TO RETURN FOR A NOTICED MODIFICATION OF THE UUP FORMAL, FORMAL PROCESS, OR ARE YOU WANTING TO BRING IT BACK AND HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? THEY'RE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO, AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO THAT STAFF KNOWS WHAT TO DO AND WHAT PROCESS IS BEING PROPOSED, UM, WHEN YOU DO MAKE THE MOTION, PLEASE MAKE IT VERY, LIKE, SPECIFIC AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK FOR A FORMAL MODIFICATION OF THE, OF THE USE PERMIT, UM, TO ADD ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OR TO JUST BRING IT BACK FOR A STATUS CHECK TO SEE IF YOU KNOW THE CONDITION, THE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES AND PROBLEMS HAVE RESOLVED AS THEY CONTINUE, UM, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, WORK ON IT.
I, I, AND IT'S JUST UNCLEAR FROM HOW IT WAS PHRASED.
SO WHAT, WHAT I WOULD, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS TO MODIFY THE CONDITIONS TODAY, UH, TO ADD THE FLOCK CAMERA.
UH, IS THAT DOABLE TODAY? IT WOULD REQUIRE FORMAL NOTICE, FORMAL NOTICE FOR MODIFICATION PROCESS.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM AND PUBLIC COMMENT ON A DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT TO, TO DO A MODIFICATION OF THE CONDITIONS, UH, OF THAT USE PERMIT, IT NEED REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT PERIOD OF NOTICE THE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY OWNER NEEDS NOTICE AS WELL AS, UM, ADDITIONAL OTHER NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
SO IT'S A MUCH MORE FORMAL PROCESS WHERE A DUE PROCESS HAS TO BE OBSERVED.
SO WHY DON'T WE BRING IT BACK SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND WITH THE NOTICE REGARDING THE CCT FLOCK CAMERA.
I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLAN.
BRING IT BACK IN SIX MONTHS AND IN FOUR MONTHS, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE AN UPDATE FROM OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PD AS TO ANY DEVELOPMENTS FROM NOW TILL THEN, AND HOPEFULLY BY THEN IF THE OWNER AND OPERATOR LISTEN TO ALL OF THIS AND PERHAPS SAY IF THEY MAKE A DECISIONS TO DO IT THEMSELVES, THEN THAT, WOULD WE TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE THING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN SIX MONTHS? WHAT DECISIONS ARE WE GONNA MAKE IN SIX MONTHS? I'M FINE BRINGING IT BACK IN SIX MONTHS.
I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS IF WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK WITH THE INTENTION OF IMPOSING, YOU KNOW, A FLOCK CAMERA ON THIS MOTEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A NOTICE AND WE CAN VOTE ON IT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
YEAH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING ON, ON SIX MONTHS FROM NOW PARTICULAR ISSUE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSAL, BUT IT'S NOT NOTICE RIGHT NOW.
SO EVEN IN WITHIN SIX MONTHS WHEN IT BRINGS IT BACK, THEN WE CAN EITHER VOTE ON IT.
IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING BY THEN.
I, I, I GUESS I, I, I, I UNDERSTAND.
UM, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I THINK MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE.
UM, AND PERHAPS, UM, PERHAPS RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH THAT EXPENDITURE, WHAT WE, WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO IS POTENTIALLY DIRECT STAFF TO INQUIRE WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THERE IS AN ABILITY FOR BUSINESSES TO VOLUNTARILY HAVE FLAW CAMERAS ON THEIR, ON THEIR SITE.
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IF, IF THIS BUSINESS OWNER WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN SUCH A PROGRAM AND THEN BRINGING IT BACK AS JUST A, A, A, A, A DISCUSSION ITEM SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ASSESS WHAT THE SITUATION IS AS FAR AS, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THESE CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS ARE ACTUALLY ONGOING CONCERNS THAT WE NEED TO CONCERN OURSELVES WITH.BECAUSE IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MODIFICATION RIGHT NOW WITH THE INTENTION OF MODIFYING IT, UH, FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE, NAMELY THE FLOCK CAMERAS, I THINK I, I, I THINK WE KIND OF PI PIGEONHOLE OURSELVES.
AND, UH, THE THING IS, IS THAT WE, WE ALL KNOW FROM THE LAST, FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD ON THIS, THAT, THAT THIS GENTLEMAN TOOK OVER IN JULY, HE HAD TO FORCIBLY GET THE PRIOR MANAGEMENT COMPANY OFF OF HIS SITE.
SO WE KNOW THERE'S GROWING PAINS THAT HAVE HAD TO HAVE OCCURRED BECAUSE HIS FORMER, THE, THE FORMER MANAGEMENT COMPANY WAS GOING THROUGH AND WAS UTILIZING THIS VOUCHER PROGRAM NONSENSE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE NEXUS OF ALL THESE ISSUES.
SO, UM, OR OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ISSUES ACCORDING TO, ACCORDING TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO, TO NOT HAVE ANY DATA KIND OF GO IN BLIND.
UM, LOOK, IF, IF THEY'RE REALISTICALLY, IF, IF THIS IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM, WE'RE NOT TALKING MODIFICATION IN SIX MONTHS, WE'RE TALKING SOMETHING PROBABLY FAR MORE ONEROUS THAN THAT, AND NOT JUST FOR FLOCK CAMERA STUFF, RIGHT? SO I, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE MONITORING IT FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO.
BUT WE'RE NOT MONITORING BRING IT UP.
WE UNDER, UNDER, UNDER THE MOTION THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE IMPROVEMENTS CONTINUE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS, EVEN THOUGH IT COMES BACK IN SIX MONTHS, THERE'S STILL A VOTE THAT NEEDS TO BE GOING ON, BUT AT THAT TIME, IT WILL BE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY IT IS NOT.
SO EVEN WITHIN SIX MONTHS, THE CONDITIONS ARE STILL STAND AND WE STILL NEED TO VOTE AT THAT POINT IN TIME OR IN SIX MONTHS, WE CAN REVISIT THESE ISSUES AND THEN HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO EITHER WAY, I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE RE REVISIT YOUR, UM, YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO COMMISSIONER LEWIS, YOU SAID GET A REPORT FROM CITY STAFF AND THEN EVALUATE.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE GET A REPORT FROM CITY STAFF IN SIX MONTHS SO WE CAN SEE WHETHER OR NOT ALL OF THE COM ALL THE COMPLIANCE ISSUES THAT, THAT WERE IN EXISTENCE ARE GONE.
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE ISSUE, ONE ISSUE DEALS WITH BUILDING FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE RESOLVED WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE AREN'T ANY FURTHER ISSUES WE CAN ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, ADD A, OR CONSIDER HAVING A FUTURE PUBLIC HEARING TO ADD ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
BECAUSE AGAIN, UM, UH, IF WE, IF LET'S BE LET CLOCK CAMERAS, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
WE'RE ASKING TO COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS, WHETHER IT'S THE STAFF GIVING US A REPORT OR, OR WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME DIFFERENCE.
SO THE BUILDING PERMIT IS NOT AN ISSUE, IT'S A PERMIT THAT THEY'RE CONTINUE, THEY'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO WITH THAT, WHETHER IT'S, UM, WHETHER IT'S, UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT OR NOT WORKING ON IT, THAT IS A PERMIT THAT WAS ISSUED TO THEM RIGHT NOW.
THE ISSUE WAS ON, ON PERMITTED BUILDING.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH AND THEY'RE CORRECTING THAT BY GOING THROUGH AND GETTING BUILDING PERMITS, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S AN OPEN ISSUE CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, IF THE COMMISSION WISHES TO BRING THIS BACK AND HAVE A REPORT PRIOR TO DIRECTING STAFF TO SIMULTANEOUSLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A MODIFICATION AND MAILING ALL THE NOTICES TO EVERY OCCUPANT, EVERY OWNER, EVERY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THOSE DISTANCES, INCURRING THE CITY'S COST TO MAKE THOSE PUBLICATIONS NOW JUST BE, JUST SO THAT WE ARE VERY CLEAR TO STAFF ON WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
AND I, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS TO, NUMBER ONE, GET A REPORT AND THEN MAKE THAT DECISION TO DO THE FORMAL PROCESS WHERE THE CITY DOES HAVE TO INCUR COSTS TO DO ALL THE MAILINGS, UM, IDENTIFYING ALL THE PROPERTIES, THE OWNERS, THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO GET THOSE NOTICES PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER, ET CETERA.
LIKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE LIKE THE FORMAL PROCESS.
SO, SO THE CONFUSION IS WITH THE DIRECTION THAT COMES TO STAFF IS, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THE STATUS REPORT AND THE MODIFICATION AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH MEANS
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THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PREPARE IN ADVANCE TO SEND ALL THE MAILERS, DO ALL THE PUBLICATIONS, AS IF IT IS A MODIFICATION HEARING, AND AT THE MODIFICATION HEARING YOU WILL HEAR THE STATUS UPDATE AND MAYBE NOT HAVE IT, AND THEN THE CITY JUST KIND OF DID ALL OF THAT.OR IS IT TO HAVE TWO PIECES AND THAT THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION.
I, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I, I THINK THAT WILL TAKE TOO LONG AND IT'S CONFUSING.
I'D RATHER NOTICE IT, HAVE THE MEETING AND GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE A DECISION AND, AND FOR STAFF.
UM, SO, SO IS THAT CLEAR WHAT, AT LEAST WITH COMMISSION, AND DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS? YES.
IF WE ARE MAKING A MOTIONS MOTION, ONE WOULD BE, UM, DO WE DO THE SIX MONTHS AND THEN BRING BACK THE NOTIFICATIONS? NO, I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SCHEDULE IT AND SIX MONTHS WITH NOTIFICATIONS TO GIVE US A STATUS UPDATE AS WELL AS HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME.
THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACT IF WE NEED TO OR NOT ACT IF WE DON'T NEED TO.
SO THIS WOULD BE MOTION, UH, COULD WE HAVE A SECOND? IF THERE'S A SECOND PLEASE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION MOTIONS TO JUST, UH, GET THE REPORT IN SIX MONTHS AND THEN DETERMINE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, UH, FOR MOTIONS TO GET A REPORT IN SIX MONTHS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
WE HAVE A SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
SO SIX MONTHS FROM NOW WOULD BE A IN AUGUST.
UH, SO NOW THAT WE HAVE A MOTIONS, HOPEFULLY THE OWNER OR OPERATOR LISTENS TO WHAT'S GOING, UH, EARLIER OUR COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS AND HOPEFULLY MAKING SOME DECISIONS THEMSELVES.
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TO, UM, COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING TO REPORT OR OFFER COMMENTS ON? UH, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF, UM, IF STAFF CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSION JUST PURELY ON AN INFORMATIONAL BASIS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THE FLOCK PROGRAM OR THE FLOCK CAMERA PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ANY BUSINESS THAT WAS JUST TO PARTICIPATE, OR WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS TO BE IMPOSED OR SOMETHING PURSUANT TO SOME, UH, SOME PERMITTING PROCESS THAT, THAT, UH, THIS COMMISSION OR, OR, UH, OR COUNSEL.SO DESIGNATES I THINK ANY BUSINESS WITH THAT MANY CALLS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVELOCK CAMERAS.
THAT'S JUST TOO MANY CALLS GIVEN THAT, UH, CAPTAIN PINKEN EARLIER HAD MENTIONED THAT HE DOES HAVE A REPORT THAT CAN BE, UH, INTERESTING TO LOOK AT.
SO INSTEAD OF JUST SENDING IT TO COMMISSIONER LEWIS, PERHAPS SENT IT TO ALL OF US.
NO, I I I MEANT SEND IT TO THE WHOLE COMMISSION.
NO, NO, NO, I WASN'T, IT WASN'T JUST TO ME.
I I WANTED EVERYONE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE THAT RECORD, SIR, I HAVE ONE, ONE MORE REQUEST.
FOR STAFF, IF WE COULD GET, UM, O OWNERSHIP DATA FOR THE LAST DECADE FOR THAT HOTEL.
IS THE, THEN THIS INFORMATION.
DID, DID YOU WANT IT PRESENTED IN WITH IN SIX MONTHS WITH THAT REPORT, OR DID, DO YOU WANT THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE.
AND, AND THE TOT DATA COULD BE JUST, UH, TWO YEARS, PLEASE ACTUALLY MAKE IT A LITTLE LONGER.
THE TENANT, THE TOT THREE, IT'S UP TO YOU.
I JUST WANNA MAKE IT REASONABLE FOR STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD THAT INFORMATION'S GONNA COME BY, BUT I'LL ASK BY YOUR BEST.
I'LL ASK FOR THREE YEARS AND IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, THEN TWO.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS, UM, MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS FROM COMMISSION REPORTS AND
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COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'RE MOVING TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS REPORT.JOANNE, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS TO REPORT? UM, YES.
SO ON FEBRUARY 19TH IS TOYOTA WEST COVINA GRAND OPENING.
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I, I WAS JUST TOLD THAT THE TOT DATA IS, IS CONFIDENTIAL.SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T BE JUST, WE CAN'T REPORT.
AND ANY, ANY OTHER METHOD WE COULD TRY TO DETERMINE HOW ABOUT MORE OCCUPANCY? YEAH.
HOW ABOUT MORE GENERALLY? UM, OUR RTOT DATA AS A CITY OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS? I CAN CHECK, I CAN CHECK TO SEE WHAT WE CAN REPORT AND IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REPORT, I'LL DEF I, I WILL BRING IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I, MY, WHAT I'M THINKING IS TREND DIDN'T, DIDN'T COMPUTE THAT IT'S SUCH LOW OCCUPANCY.
SO THAT'S ANY DATA YOU CAN PULL, PLEASE.
BUT NORMALLY, GENERALLY THE HOTEL'S OCCUPANCIES IS 75%.
'CAUSE THE LAST TIME THE HOTEL WAS HERE A COUPLE YEARS BACK, THIS IS BEFORE COVID.
I DON'T KNOW IF COVID IS TO REALLY BE BLAMED FOR ANY OF THE TOYS.
HOWEVER, UM, THE HOTEL, COUPLE OF HOTELS THAT HAD THEIR RENOVATIONS, THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE TOURISTS, BUT THEY GOT SOME MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT FOR SURE.
OH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOTEL.
UM, THEIR OCCUPANCY RATE, THEY MENTIONED THIS IS BEFORE COVID WAS ABOUT 75% OCCUPANCY.
I DON'T, I'M, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'M NOT IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY, BUT IT SEEMS IT MAY SEEMS A LITTLE LESS, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST THE IMPRESSIONS THAT I GOT IN THE, THE, UH, SOME OF THE BUSINESS, UH, NEWSPAPER THAT I READ.
UM, IT HASN'T PICKED UP TO THE PEAK YET.
UH, MAINLY THROUGH DISNEYLAND, BUT I DON'T KNOW
UM, COMMUNITY DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS REPORT, OR JOAN, DO YOU HAVE MORE FOR
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THE, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS PART OF IT.UHHUH
SO THE SECOND READING FOR THE ZONE CHANGE ORDINANCE IS SCHEDULED FOR, FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH.
UM, ARE THERE ANY CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS TO REPORT OTHER THAN THAT WAS THAT WAS IT? OH, AND ALSO, UM, NOT ACTIONS YET, BUT UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL ITEMS FOR THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING? IT WOULD, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REVIEWING THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WHEN WOULD THAT BE? THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR, WELL, THE 18TH.
UM, HAVING NO FURTHER BUSINESS.