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ORDER IN THE COURT.[Call to Order]
THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.WE WILL BEGIN WITH A MOMENT OF SIGNING PRAYER AND MEDIATION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN THIS MEETING IN A ME IN MEMORY OF MS. CARLA HAYWOOD, A TEACHER WHO TAUGHT AT NOGALES HIGH SCHOOL FOR MANY YEARS, UH, WHO JUST RECENTLY PASSED AWAY.
UH, UM, WILL ALWAYS, UH, I'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER HER, HER KINDNESS AND HER PASSION TO TEACH OTHERS AND TEACH STUDENTS LIKE MYSELF, UH, TO BECOME FUTURE LEADERS.
WE WILL START THIS MEETING AND BEGIN, UH, PRAYER AND MEDIATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE ALLION PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER HANG.
PLEASE JOIN ME WITH A PLEDGE I PLEDGING REGIONS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, UH, PAULINA, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL, ROLL CALL.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, YES, UH, COMMISSIONER HING HERE.
COMMISSIONER SERRA HERE, VICE CHAIR WILLIAMS. PRESENT AND CHAIR GUTIERREZ HERE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
AND WE HAVE, UH, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.UH, TONIGHT, WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING ON AUGUST 8TH, 2023 OF THE REGULAR MEETING.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THESE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, THEY ARE APPROVED AS AMENDED OR AS IS.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE AT THIS TIME, WE'LL, UH, BEGIN, UH, ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING, SEEING NONE? WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT WITH
[2. PRECISE PLAN NO. 20-02]
OUR PUBLIC HEARING.WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.
UH, CHAIR GUTIERREZ, UH, PLANNING MANAGER, JOANNE BURNS, WILL PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING HONOR ROLL CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A PRECISE PLAN, PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 20 DASH TWO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, AND WHICH INCLUDES A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FOR THE REMOVAL OF THREE SIGNIFICANT TREES ON SITE.
THE PROJECT SITE IS, UM, UH, POINT 98 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON WALNUT CREEK PARKWAY BETWEEN VINCENT AVENUE AND GLENDORA AVENUE.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A PARKING LOT THAT IS OCCASIONALLY USED FOR EVENT PARKING.
THE SITE WAS FORMERLY UTILIZED BY WIX FURNITURE STORE, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN DEVELOPED INTO THE COLONY AT THE LAKES, UM, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL URBAN ZONE, UM, WHICH IS THE SAME, UM, ZONING AS THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THE SITE.
THE SITE IS THE COLONY AND THE CHICK-FIL-A PARK, UM, AND THE, THE, THE PACIFIC WESTERN BANK PARKING AREA ACROSS THE STREET ON THE NORTH, THE CAR WASH THE TO THE WEST, AND ON THE EAST AND SOUTH SIDE IS AN OFFICE BUILDING IN THE BANK OF THE WEST BANK.
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HERE IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE SITE.THE SITE HAS APPROXIMATELY 215 FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE ALONG WALNUT CREEK PARKWAY.
THE BUILD THE BUILDING, UM, IS HIGHLIGHTED IN GRAY.
IT IS A BOOT SHAPE OR JS SHAPED, UM, IN CONFIGURATION, WHICH WAS DESIGNED TO CONFORM TO THE SHAPE OF THE LAW VEHICLE ALERT INGRESS AND INGRESS TO THE SUBTERRANEAN PARKING LEVEL WOULD BE PROVIDED BY A PROPOSED DRIVEWAY ON THE NORTH, I'M SORRY, ON THE NORTH E UM, EAST SIDE, RIGHT ALONG HERE, WHERE THE ARROW IS OF THE PROJECT SITE.
PROGESTERONE ACCESS TO THE BUILDING WOULD BE PROVIDED ON THE MAIN LOBBY ENTRANCE WHERE THAT, WHERE THE ORANGE ARROW IS, ALONG THE WALNUT CREEK PARKWAY FRONTAGE AND ACCESS TO THE BUILDING CAN ALSO BE PROVIDED ALONG, IS ALSO PROVIDED ALONG THE FRONT TO THOSE UNITS.
FRONTING, UM, ON THE FIRST FLOOR FRONTING WALNUT CREEK PARKWAY, THE AIR, THE YELLOW ARROWS POINTING WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, UM, REPRESENTS THE, UM, THE ENTRANCE POINTS TO, TO THE BUILDING, TO THE, UM, PROPERTIES, COMMON, COMMON AREAS ALONG THE FIRST FLOOR.
THE SITE PLAN ALSO SHOWS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPED AREAS HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN ALONG THE EAST, UM, AND SOUTH, AND ALSO ALONG THE NORTH FRONTAGE.
THE COMMON OPEN SPACE WILL BE PROVIDED VIA THE COURTYARD AND ALSO A POOL AREA TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE SITE.
THE SITE, UM, THE PROJECT IS DESIGNED TO COM TO COMPLY WITH ALL CODE STANDARDS, INCLUDING SETBACKS.
HERE IS THE FRONT ELEVATION AND CROSS SECTION FOR THE SITE.
THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE 38 FEET IN HEIGHT, AS MEASURED FROM LOWEST GRADE TO THE ROOF OF THE THIRD FLOOR, 48 FEET FROM GRADE TO THE TOP OF THE STAIR TOWER, AND 41 FEET, SIX INCHES FROM THE GRADE TO THE TOP OF THE PARAPET WALL.
THE DOWNTOWN PLAN ALLOWS ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS SUCH AS TOWER FEATURES AND PARAPETS TO BE EXEMPTED FROM THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT CALCULATION.
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, UM, FROM GRADE TO THE TOP OF A ROOF OF ANY BUILDING IS 40 FEET.
THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE TH THIS THREE STORY BUILDING IS MODERN.
THE PROPOSED MODERN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IS WELL REPRESENTED IN THE DETAILING AND BUILDING MATERIALS USED, WHICH INCLUDES STUCCO WALLS, EQUITONE FIBER, A CEMENT BOARD, PHENOLIC WOOD PANELS, ALUMINUM COMP, COMPOSITE PANELS, AND PERFORATED, UM, MESH METAL FOR THE BALCONY RAILINGS AND THE PARKING GARAGE GATE.
THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WILL INCLUDE A MIXTURE OF WHITE, GRAYISH, TAN AND BOUND COLOR SCHEMES.
THE BUILDING DESIGN UTILIZES WALL PLANES THAT OFFSET BALCONIES AND VERTICAL ELEMENTS IN THE FORM OF COLUMNS AND EXIT MATERIALS TO BREAK THE MASSING AND PROMOTE ARTICULATION, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
HERE ARE THE WEST AND EAST ELEVATIONS FOR THE PROJECT.
AND HERE IS THE, THE PROJECT RENDERING ON THE PROJECTOR IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE GARAGE.
THE, THE SUBTER BRING AND PARKING GARAGE WOULD HAVE 20, 24 FEET TO 26 FEET, EIGHT INCH WIDE DRIVEWAY AISLES LEADING TO, UM, THE VEHICLE PARKING SPACES.
AND ALSO A, A BICYCLE STORAGE AREA IN, IN GREEN
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TO THE NORTH.THE GARAGE WOULD, WOULD ALSO CONTAIN A UTILITY ROOM HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, AND STORAGE ROOMS IN, IN BLUE.
THE STAIRS AND ELEVATOR ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST IN PURPLE.
UM, ALTERNATE STAIRS ARE LO ARE LOCATED ON, ON THE SOUTH, ON ON THE NORTHEAST, AND ALSO ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE.
THE PARKING, THE PARKING AREA WILL INCLUDE 84 PARKING SPACES.
82 IS REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF, BASED ON A NUMBER OF UNITS AND BEDROOMS, UM, PER, PER EACH OF THOSE UNITS.
THE, THE 84 PARKING SPACES WOULD INCLUDE NINE ELECTRIC VEHICLE PARKING SPACES ALONG THE BACK WALL, THREE HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES, AND 72 STANDARD PARKING SPACES.
26 OF THOSE 72, UM, PARKING SPACES ARE TANDEM.
AND THESE SPACES ARE, THESE TANDEM PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED TO BE ASSIGNED TO THE SAME UNIT.
ALTHOUGH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE SEPARATE GUEST PARKING SPACES, UM, FOR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STAFF, DOES HAVE CONCERNS THAT STREET PARKING, UM, REGARDING GUEST PARKING, BECAUSE STREET PARKING IS NOT AVAILABLE NEAR THE PROJECT SITE TO ADDRESS THE PARKING CONCERN, STAFF INCLUDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO NOTIFY EACH TENANT VERBALLY AND IN WRITING WITHIN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THAT PARKING MAY BE S SCARCE AND PARKING ASSIGNMENT IS LIMITED TO TWO PARKING SPACES FOR TWO BEDROOM UNITS AND ONE PARKING SPACE FOR ONE BEDROOM UNIT.
AND, AND OR ADDITIONAL LEASE PARKING SPACES, DEPENDING ON AVAILABILITY, THE APARTMENT MANAGER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO RESERVE AT LEAST 10 PARKING SPACES FOR GUEST PARKING, UM, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THREE ELECTRIC VEHICLE SPACES AND ONE HANDICAP SPACE, AND SIX STANDARD SPACES.
UM, PER THIS CONDITION, STA UM, SIGNAGE WILL BE REQUIRED PROHIBITING OVERNIGHT PARKING ON GUEST PARKING SPACES AND LIMITING THE TIMEFRAME TO FOUR HOURS.
HERE IS THE PROJECT, UM, FLOOR PLAN FOR THE FIRST FLOOR PORTION CENTRALLY LOCATED ON THE FIRST.
THE FIRST FLOOR ARE, ARE THE LEASING OFFICE, CONFERENCE ROOM, UTILITY CLOSET, AND RESTROOMS, THE GYM, AND ALSO THE MAIL.
UM, THE MAIL ROOM SOUTH SOUTHEAST IS AN AN ENCLOSED TRASH AREA, AND IN BLUE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE 13 ONE BEDROOM UNITS.
AND IN GREEN, THE TWO TWO BEDROOM UNITS ON THE FIRST FLOOR HERE ARE THE FLOOR PLANS.
UM, THE SECOND FLOOR AND THE THIRD FLOOR HAS, HAS, UH, THE SAME FLOOR PLAN CONFIGURATION.
SO IN BLUE, THE THE 14, UM, THE 14 ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND IN GREEN ARE THE FOUR TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
AGAIN, EACH UNIT WOULD HAVE AT LEAST 100 SQUARE FEET OF COM OF PRIVATE OPEN SPACE PROVIDED BY BALCONIES AND OR ON THE FIRST FLOOR, UM, PATIO AREAS.
HERE'S A CHART THAT SHOWS A SUMMARY OF HOW THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH, WITH THE DENSITY, HEIGHT, PARKING, OPEN SPACE, AND SETBACK STANDARDS.
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AS MENTIONED EARLIER, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SEVERAL TREES ON SITE, ONLY THREE OF THOSE TREES ARE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT TREES AND REQUIRE A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.UM, THAT IS THE TWO QUEENSLAND PITTOSPORUM TREES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UM, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SITE AND THE SYCAMORE TREE AT, AT THE VERY REAR OF, OF THE PROJECT SITE.
DUE TO THE NUMBER OF, OF TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE REMOVED ON THE SITE AND REAL, UM, RECOGNIZING THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS OF THE TREES CONDITION, A CONDITION OF APPROVAL HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT PRECISE PLAN RESOLUTION REQUIRING THE INSTALLATION OF 6 24 INCH BOX SIZE TREES ON SITE AND THE RELOCATION OF REPLACEMENT OF THE CITY TREES.
UM, THE RELOCATION AND REPLACEMENT OF THE CITY TREES WOULD BE BASED ON THE CITY ARBORIST'S ASSESSMENT, UM, OF THE LOCATION AND TO THE SPECIFICATION OF THE CITY ENGINEER AND PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR, ARTS AND PUBLIC PLACES.
UM, THE PROJECT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S ARTS AND PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM.
UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ART THAT EQUALS TO 0.5% OF THE CONSTRUCTION VALUATION, UM, ON SITE, OR THEY CAN PAY THE IN LIEU FEE.
SO THAT WOULD BE USED TO, TO PROVIDE, UH, FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC OR IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AREAS OR ELSEWHERE.
THIS, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES, UM, BASED ON 51 UNITS EQUALING, UM, 1 160 $5,597.
UM, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WAS CONDUCTED ON THE PROJECT AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT'S C Q A EXEMPT UNDER SECTION 1 5 1 8 3, UM, PROJECTS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLANNER ZONING BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY STANDARDS AND POLICIES IN THE WEST COVINA GENERAL PLAN, AND ALSO DOWNTOWN PLAN AND CODE.
UM, WHERE IN 2000 DECEMBER, 2016, UM, THE CITY CERTIFIED AN E I R FOR BOTH WEST, THE WEST COVINA GENERAL PLAN AND DOWNTOWN PLAN AND CODE.
THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, TERRY HAYES AND ASSOCIATES PREPARED, UM, AN AIR QUALITY STUDY AND WHICH DETERMINED THAT IT IS BELOW BELOW, UM, SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT'S.
SIGNIFICANT REGIONAL THRESHOLDS AND NOISE ASSESSMENT WAS ALSO CONDUCTED, UM, AND DETERMINED THAT CONSTRUCTION NOISE WILL PERIODICALLY EXCEED ALLOWABLE NOISE LEVELS, BUT ONLY DURING THE DAYTIME PERIODS.
TRAFFIC STU UM, A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS CONDUCTED AND DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT WAS, WOULD RESULT IN 344 DAILY TRIPS.
UM, HOWEVER, ONLY 21 TO 26 OF THOSE DAILY TRIPS WOULD OCCUR DURING THE AM AND PM P PEAK PERIODS, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE 50 DAILY TRIPS, UM, THRESHOLD DURING, UM, PEAK PERIODS TO REQUIRE A FULL TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THE PROJECT IS SCREENED OUT FROM THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED BECAUSE IT IS LOCATED IN TRANSIT PRIORITY AREA, UM, SINCE IT IS WITHIN HALF A HALF A MILE FROM A MAJOR TRANSIT STOP, WHICH IS ON VINCENT AVENUE, UH, UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF CHASE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE, HOWEVER, REQUIRING AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN IS SUBMITTED, UM, TO THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION 23 DASH 630, WHICH APPROVES A PRECISE PLAN.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF REPORT.
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UH, DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE, UM, I'LL HEAR, WE'LL HEAR TESTIMONY, UH, AND, UH, HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.BUT, UH, MY NAME IS SARAH MAGANA WITHERS, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.
I'M THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT IN CHARGE OF ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE COMPANY, AND WE OWN AND OPERATE OVER 6 MILLION SQUARE FEET THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.
UH, WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ACTUALLY, UM, DEVELOPED AND HAVE A FEW, UH, PROJECTS HERE IN THE CITY.
AND SO WE'RE VERY PROUD TO BE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS OF WEST COVINA.
UH, YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS SEVERAL TIMES, BUT WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE HERE BEFORE YOU.
WE THINK IT'S GOING TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, ADD TO THE CITY.
UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FACADE.
UM, WE'RE INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF THE COUNTRY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET A LOAN OR ANYTHING, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
SO THIS IS A PRIORITY PROJECT FOR US.
WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH, UH, CASH ON HAND 'CAUSE WE CAN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, FINANCE IT AT THIS TIME.
BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE A SUCCESS.
AND WE WANT TO THANK, YOU KNOW, YOUR, UH,
AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HERE.
UH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION REGARDING, UH, GUEST PARKING.
I DUNNO IF I CAN ASK THAT NOW, OR, UH, YEAH, LEMME JUST, UH, DOES ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? AND THEN WE COULD GET HER ASK LATER.
AND THEN WE COULD GO OVER YOUR PAULINE OR, UH, JOANNE.
MY, MY QUESTION IS, UH, IN THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, IT INDICATES, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE EXCESS PARKING BY TWO.
UM, THE GUEST PARKING DOES NOT REQUIRED, BUT IT DOES INDICATE THAT ARE REQUIRED.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW, HOW DO YOU WANT US TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT? SO THE, THE, THE PARKING CALCULATION, UM, IS BASED ON 1.5 PER, PER ONE BEDROOM UNIT AND TWO PARKING SPACES FOR TWO BEDROOM UNIT FOR TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
UM, SO TYPICALLY, UM, YOU WOULD ASSIGN ONE PARKING SPACE FOR ONE BED, THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND TWO PARKING SPACES FOR THE TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
AND THEN WHAT'S LEFT OVER, UM, 10 WOULD BE FOR GUEST PARKING.
AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER, UM, REMAINDER WOULD BE, UM, YOU CAN LEASE IT OR ASSIGN IT TO WHICHEVER UNIT YOU WANT.
WHAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS IS A FOUR RENT PRODUCT, JUST ASSIGN THAT TO PROBABLY OUR, OUR TENANTS.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONSITE MANAGEMENT.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO CONTROL.
SO AS WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO COME IN OUR AGING POPULATION, WE DO FORESEE THAT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE FOR YOUNG, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES, COUPLES, UH, SINGLE OR ALSO, UM, OLDER ADULTS THAT ARE TRANSITIONING LIKE MYSELF, THAT BECOME EMPTY NESTERS AND NOW THEIR HOUSES ARE TOO BIG.
SO YOU LOOK FOR A PRODUCT LIKE THIS, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T EVEN NEED A CAR OR, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL MAKE ALLOWANCES FOR THAT.
UM, I NOTICED THAT STAFF DID POINT OUT, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE RENTAL HOUSING, THAT IT WAS GOING TO PROVIDE FOR DIFFERENT ECONOMIC SEGMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK FIGURE AS TO HOW MUCH PER MONTH WOULD BE CHARGED FOR THE ONE BEDROOM AND THE TWO BEDROOM? NOT A, NOT AS OF YET.
UH, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING, IF SOMEBODY, I JUST WANNA MAKE THE DISCLOSURE, IF
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SOMEBODY COMES IN AND GIVES US A RIDICULOUS NUMBER THAT WE CAN'T TURN DOWN, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD THINK ABOUT TELLING THE PRODUCT.WE PLAN TO BUILD IT AND HOLD ONTO IT.
AND IT'S A FAMILY OWNED COMPANY.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, COME IN, BUILD IT LIKE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, COUNTING EVERY PENNY.
SO IF WE, OUR MAIN CONCERN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE UNITS ARE OCCUPIED AND THAT IF THERE'S A NEED THERE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT, WE'RE NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS.
WE DON'T WANT ANY EMPTY UNITS.
SO WHATEVER THE GOING RATE IS AND WHATEVER THE DEMAND IS, ESPECIALLY LIKE ON THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS MM-HMM.
I DID NOTICE WITH THE TWO, UM, BEDROOM UNIT THAT IT APPEARS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER, UM, BEDROOM SUITES ON EITHER END.
IS THERE, OR HAS YOUR COMPANY IN THE PAST WHEN YOU HAVE A LAYOUT LIKE THAT AGREED TO ALLOW PERHAPS UP TO MAYBE FOUR PEOPLE? IT DEPENDS.
WE, WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE, THAT THERE IS A HUGE NEED FOR HOUSING MM-HMM.
SO IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE THAT IS COMING IN, AND MAYBE THEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAYBE A CHILD OR MAYBE TWO ADULTS THAT ARE OLDER, WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINDING A LOT OF OLDER ADULTS BECAUSE OUR POPULATION IS AGING, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA BE BY MYSELF, SO THEN I LIVE WITH MY FRIEND, OR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT WE SEE.
I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT COLLEGE STUDENTS.
AND WE COULD DO THAT IF, IF THERE'S A NEED, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY.
AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IT IS, YOU KNOW, HAVING A, UH, MANAGEMENT, UH, A MANAGER THAT'S GONNA BE HANDLING THAT.
WE, THIS IS, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR.
WE'RE GETTING THERE, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, IT'S THE OVERALL, UH, LONGEVITY OF THE PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COUNTING EVERY PENNY.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE VERY FRUGAL.
WE HAVE TO BE, BECAUSE IF NOT, WE CAN'T BUILD IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE HAVE A SITUATION THAT'S COMING IN, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IF THEY'RE COLLEGE STUDENTS, THEY'RE NOT ROWDY, BUGGING EVERYBODY, THEN, YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEM.
UM, SO WE WOULD LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER LEWIS.
UM, WHAT, WHAT CONSIDERATIONS DID YOU GUYS PUT INTO, UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED HERE? I MEAN, I'M PERSONALLY A FAN OF, OF THE MODERN EX ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, BUT MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS THAT THIS IS OUR, OUR DOWNTOWN DESIGNATED AREA.
AND I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE SOME CONTINUITY MM-HMM.
UM, AND THIS BEING ADJACENT TO SOMETHING THAT IS SORT OF SPANISH STYLE, QUASI MODERN.
I, I JUST, I, I DON'T SEE THAT, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN MY MIND IF THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU GUYS COULD POTENTIALLY DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES THIS MORE, UH, A, A MORE OR MORE BLENDED TRANSITION OF SOME, OF SOME WAY, BECAUSE THIS IS MODERN RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, SPANISH STYLE EFFECTIVELY.
AND I'LL BE VERY BLUNT WITH YOU.
I, I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA IS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST BEEN VERY DEFERENTIAL TO DEVELOPERS, TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE A COMPLETELY HODGEPODGE WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THINGS.
IT'S, IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO, UH, TO A, A CITY THAT HAS SOME GRAND PLAN TO IT.
SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THIS, THIS PROJECT.
AND I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU GUYS WOULD BE AMENABLE TO DOING SOME, SOME CHANGES SUCH THAT THIS LOOKS MORE SIMILAR TO THE LARGE CONSEQUENTIAL BUILDING, THE COLONIES THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
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YOUR GUYS' BUILDING IS A CONSEQUENTIAL BUILDING, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.AS A MATTER OF FACT, I QUITE LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THE, THE CONCERN IS, IS THAT IF WE, IF WE DECIDE TO, IF WE DECIDE TO ALLOW THIS, THEN WHAT WE'RE GONNA ALLOW A TWO DOOR STYLE BUILDING COLUMNS NEXT.
WHAT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
AND I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
AND, UM, FIRST I WANNA COMMEND YOU ON THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
YOUR STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR GOVERNING BODIES DID A GREAT JOB.
YOU KNOW, IT REALLY, I WORK IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WHERE WE HAVE PROJECTS AND THAT REALLY PROVIDES FOR A GOOD ROADMAP.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR STAFF WILL AGREE THAT WE'RE VERY AMENABLE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT YOUR TYPICAL DEVELOPER.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA OWN AND OPERATE.
WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE MM-HMM.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT INVESTORS MM-HMM.
BUT WE DID TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE DID THIS DESIGN, AND WE FELT THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY FIT THE FABRIC OF THE AREA AND THAT IT ALSO PULLED SOME OF THE ELEMENTS.
UM, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS LONG AS IT'S NOT LIKE A COMPLETE REDESIGN, BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY LIKE THE MAYBE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME WE, YEAH.
I MEAN, I, WE'VE DONE LIKE, COMPLETELY EVERYTHING, SO YEAH.
I, I, AND WE WANNA GET IT DONE IN MY LIFETIME.
TOTALLY, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY FROM, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I THINK I, I THINK THE FOOTPRINT IS FINE.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
I THINK MY, MY CON MY PERSONAL CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE CONTINUITY.
YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SAY THIS, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, UH, HAS A, UM, HAS, HAS A HISTORY.
SHE USED, SHE USED TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF COVINA IN THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND THE CITY OF COVINA HAS A VERY, UH, VERY PARTICULAR DOWNTOWN.
I DON'T WANT A VERY HODGEPODGE DOWNTOWN IN MY HOMETOWN.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THIS WOULD TEND TO GO IF, IF WE'RE NOT BEING VERY CONSCIENTIOUS OF THAT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, AS I TOLD YOU, I LOVE MODERN.
MY THING IS, IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT MODERN.
SO WHAT DO WE DO? RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL, UH, JUST REST ASSURED, YOU KNOW, LIKE MANY, LIKE ALL DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE YOUR SPECIFIC PLAN IS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT.
WE DID FOLLOW THAT, AND WE FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES.
WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IF THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT WE'VE SEEN, I JUST SAW ONE TODAY WHEN I WAS DRIVING BY, BUT I THOUGHT, WOW, OUR PROJECT, LIKE THE STOOPS AND EVERYTHING IS SO WELL PLANNED OUT.
IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE SOME TYPE OF SUBSTANCE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FALLING IN.
AND SO, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND WE WILL, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA HAVE A SUCCESSFUL, UH, PROJECT THAT EVERYBODY'S REALLY PROUD OF, THAT YOU CAN POINT TO.
AND THAT'S A CATALYST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOR THE CAR WASH AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT THEY THINK, OH WOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING MORE CUSTOMERS OR, YOU KNOW, LET'S SPRUCE IT UP.
BUT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T, WE WOULD HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE ENTIRE THING, BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY START ALL OVER AGAIN.
WE'RE NEVER GONNA DO ANYTHING COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT'S A VERY REASONABLE
ARCHITECT'S FANTASTIC, SUPER SEASONED.
UM, HE'S THE DIRECTOR ACTUALLY, OF HIS FIRM, AND IT'S 175 ARCHITECTS.
HE'S, YOU KNOW, HE'S VERY, HE LOVES THAT, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT, AND THEN I HAD, I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT, AND THAT'S THE, THE CHARGING STATIONS.
UH, LOOK, I, I'M NOT GONNA SAY I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA HAPPEN, BUT CALIFORNIA LAW SAYS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO SELL GASOLINE VEHICLES IN 2035.
AGAIN, I NOT GONNA PRETEND THAT THAT'S LIKELY TO HAPPEN, BUT LET'S JUST HUMOR ME FOR A SECOND.
UM, I, I, I THINK THAT HAVING ONLY NINE CHARGING STATIONS IS WOEFULLY SHORT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO PRETEND THAT THAT
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IS ACTUALLY TRUE, UM, WE HAVE TO BE MUCH MORE CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT THAT.AND REALISTICALLY, IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE EVERY SPACE, OR AT LEAST EVERY TENANT SPACE, YOU KNOW, AND I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
'CAUSE MY DAUGHTER'S A NEW PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF LA AND SO NOW I GET TO TALK TO HER ABOUT ALL THIS FUN STUFF.
BUT, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE NO GAS VEHICLES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, AT THE TIME, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT.
BECAUSE IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE EMPTY UNITS, WE'RE IN A SOCIETY, OR IT'S EITHER THAT OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TRAINS AND BUSES OR FLYING THINGS THAT ARE GONNA TAKE US PLACES.
RIGHT? IF NOT, HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA JUST PARK THEIR CARS.
SO WE'LL COME UP TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FOLLOW THOSE TRENDS, LIKE WITH ALTERNATIVE FUELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ACTUALLY, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PATRIARCH OF OUR COMPANY, HE INVENTED A, UH, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY MACHINE THAT I HELPED HIM SEND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.
THEY FOUND MERIT IN THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT NOT, IT WASN'T COMMERCIALLY FEASIBLE UNTIL WE STARTED BUILDING SOMETHING.
BUT, SO WE'RE REALLY, UM, AT THE FOREFRONT OF THAT, WE SEE A LOT OF ALTERNATIVE FUELS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.
THERE'S SO MUCH THAT'S HAPPENING, UM, TO BUILD FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE.
RIGHT NOW, WE MAY BE MISSING THE BOAT.
MAYBE THAT IS NOT GONNA BE LIKE THE PREFERRED, UH, METHOD.
MAYBE IT'S A PILL OR A CHIP, OR GOD KNOWS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE, YEAH.
WHAT IS IT A BATTERY? EXACTLY.
YOU KNOW, YOU GET IN YOUR DOLE OR SOMETHING.
AND YES, AS A, AS A CHILD GROWING UP, PROMISES WERE MADE AND BACK TO THE FUTURE TOO.
SO
WELL, YEAH, AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO, I, I WAS, I WAS MORE THINKING ABOUT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, UM, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT NOW, BUT, UM, WHATEVER YOU CAN POTENTIALLY DO.
AND, AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS LATER IN TERMS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE SUCH THAT PUTTING THAT IN AFTER THE FACT IS NOT GOING TO BE A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING.
AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING IN THEIR HOMES RIGHT NOW.
EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK, THE ONLY THING IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN MOST OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE HAVE FROM BEVERLY HILLS AND WEST HOLLYWOOD AND ALL THESE AREAS WHERE YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF ALTERNATIVE, YOU KNOW, ENERGY.
THEY DON'T GET USED THAT OFTEN, AND THEN THEY GET VANDALIZED, AND THEN PEOPLE STEAL THE, THE STATIONS MM-HMM.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.
LIKE NINE HERE, WE HOPE THAT EVERYBODY USES IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY HAS A YEAH, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF, I HAVE A HYBRID AND I HAVE A REGULAR, BECAUSE I CAN'T COUNT ON THAT.
I'M, YOU KNOW, GONNA, NOT GONNA RUN OUT OF JUICE BEFORE I GET TO MY DESTINATION,
AND THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT YOU GET TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
UH, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT QUESTION, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING NOW, IS IT POSSIBLE, 'CAUSE I KNOW EDISON HAS A LOT OF REBATES TOO, FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS, AND I KNOW, UM, THE STATE ALSO HAS A DEDICATED WEBSITE, UH, WHERE THE STATE PAYS FOR INSTALLATION OF, UH, OF EV CHARGERS.
BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UM, GIVE THE TENANT THE OPTION IF, IF YOU PUT THE WIRING, I MEAN, IF THE WIRING WAS IN PLACE, JUST LIKE NEW HOMES, THE WIRING'S IN PLACE AND IT'S COVERED UP.
BUT IF THE TENANT, IF IF THE HOME NEW HOMEOWNER, IN THIS CASE A NEW RENTER WANTS TO INSTALL THEIR OWN CHARGER, THEN THEY COULD GET APPROVAL FROM THE OWNERSHIP AND OR MANAGEMENT AND, AND, UH, AND THEN, AND THEN IF THEY WANT TO COVER THE COST TO INSTALL IT, IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE? NO.
YEAH, BECAUSE ALL YOU, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS MAKE SURE YOU HAVE, I GUESS, THE CAPABILITY TO HAVE THAT EXTRA, I GUESS, WIRING AND CHAR, UH, THAT THE GRID COULD HOLD.
I MEAN, THE GRID IS CAPABLE OF ALLOWING THAT EXTRA INSTALLATION TO OCCUR.
SO THAT'S A WAY TO SAVE MONEY, BECAUSE NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO DO THE SEVEN, BUT IF YOU WERE TO
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EXPAND IT TO FIVE MORE, BUT THAT, THAT FIVE WILL BE OPTIONAL.I MEAN, THOSE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU HAVE LEFT OVER AFTER YOU MEET THE, THE CERTAIN CITY REQUIREMENTS ON THE PARKING MANDATES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EXTRA SPACES OPEN AND WHATEVER THE, THAT AMOUNT IS, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO TECHNICALLY MAKE MONEY.
BECAUSE NOW YOU COULD DO PRE-WIRING FOR THOSE SPOTS, AND THOSE WHO HAVE ELECTRIC EV CHARGE EV VEHICLES COULD PAY EXTRA TO HAVE THAT DEDICATED SPOT AND THEN PAY TO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT INSTALLED.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE EV THEY'RE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE.
BUT IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED TO PUT IT IN.
SO THAT'S WHY LATER, LIKE WITH US, IF WE HAVE A, I HOPE WE HAVE THAT DEMAND, RIGHT? THAT'S FANTASTIC.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM PUTTING IT IN.
THE OTHER GREAT THING ALSO IS THAT JUST RECENTLY IN MAY WHEN WE WERE AT THE SHOPPING CENTER CONVENTION, WE ACTUALLY, UM, WE'RE HAVING DIALOGUES WITH A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES WHERE THEY EVEN LEASE THE SPACE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE LIKE THE CITIES ALSO WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE HUGE PARKING LOTS THAT AREN'T BEING USED LIKE AT NIGHT.
IMAGINE IF YOU HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PAY YOU TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE FOR YOUR RESIDENTS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A VERY WALKABLE DOWNTOWN WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, CAN START GETTING OUT OF THEIR CARS, WALK HOME, LEAVE THEIR CAR CHARGING, ET CETERA.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, FANTASY OF MINE.
BUT, UM, AND THEN THE CITY COULD MAKE SOME REVENUE TO, FOR YOUR PARKING LOTS OR CLEANUP OR MAINTENANCE, WHATEVER.
SO DO YOU THINK, UH, THE DEVELOPER YOU REPRESENT WILL BE OPEN TO, IF THERE WAS A CONDITION OF A CONDITION ADDED THAT SAID THAT THREE ADDITIONAL STALLS SHOULD BE PRE-WIRED ONLY, WHICH GIVES THAT OPPORTUNITY? I WOULDN'T APPRECIATE ONLY BECAUSE OF THE VANDALISM THAT WE HAVE.
I HAVE PICTURES ON MY PHONE OF WHAT THEY DO TO, I WAS JUST AT A SHOPPING CENTER TODAY ON WESTERN AND SEPULVEDA IN TORRANCE, VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, ET CETERA.
THEY, LIKE, THEY DESTROYED BOTH OF THE STATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND PUT 'EM BACK IN.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY, I, I DON'T, NINE NINE, I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMETHING WE, IT'S A LOT, SOMETHING THAT'S 12 YEARS AHEAD, WE, WE DON'T NEED TO YEAH.
AND NINE, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S A LOT.
WE'RE LUCKY IF WE'RE GONNA GET LIKE, MAYBE THREE.
I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE ARE DRIVING FAR, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, ONE OF THE GUYS IN MY OFFICE, HE CAN'T EVEN DRIVE TO SAN DIEGO BECAUSE HE ONLY GETS A HUNDRED MILES ON HIS CAR AND HE HAS AN ELECTRIC CAR.
YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T, HE DID NOT REALIZE THAT THAT'S, I KNOW THAT AUTOMAKERS ARE INVESTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN, UH, IN MAKING NEW EV VEHICLES.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE COMPETING STRONGLY WITH TESLA.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE NEW CADILLAC E S V COMING OUT THAT'S FULLY ELECTRIC.
YOU HAVE TOYOTA WHO'S INVESTING ALSO IN THE GRID AND MAKING THEIR OWN, UH, CHARGING STATION.
AND THEN ALSO THE, I DIDN'T SEE A, A LIGHT PLAN.
THERE'S NO LIGHT PLAN IN HERE.
'CAUSE UH, THE LAST THING WE WANT IS HAVE THAT AREA CONTINUE TO BE DARK OUTSIDE.
WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE, YOU KNOW, PROPER LIGHTING AND CAMERAS, ET CETERA.
SO YOU'RE COMMITTING TO CAMERAS
AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T BREAK THE BANK, YOU KNOW, LIKE YEP.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE FILMING MOVIES THERE AND STUFF, BUT YEAH, NO, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THE BUILDING CODE, UM, FOR EACH ONE OF THE ENTRANCES AND STUFF, YES.
I KNOW THAT YOUR ELEVATION DRAWINGS DON'T SHOW THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING FIXTURES.
AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHY HE'S ASKING, WHATEVER YOU SEE HERE IS BECAUSE WE CAN ACTUALLY BUILD, SO LIKE THE SMALLER THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, WELL PLAN IT OUT AND WHERE IT'S GONNA GO AND CONNECT WHEN WE PUT IT ON PAPER.
PAPER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUILD IT.
'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IN WEST COVINA IS THAT WE HAVE, UH, I MEAN WE WE'RE MAKING DEVELOPERS PER LIGHTS OUT IN THE FRONT, BUT IT'S A TIMER ON IT, SO IT TURNS ON AND OFF AUTOMATICALLY.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT, UH, THESE HOMEOWNERS ARE SHUTTING THEM OFF.
SO AT THIS, AT, AT CERTAIN TIMES, IT'S, IT'S PURE DARK NOW.
SO THE LIGHT PLAN IS NOT BEING UP KEPT IN THE CITY.
AND SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UH, THAT IF YOU DO,
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IF, IF THE TENANT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIGHT, THAT THERE'S SOME SOLUTION, SOLID SOLUTION THAT LEAVES THAT LIGHT ON AT NIGHT.SO ESPECIALLY FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS WHO COULD, WHO, WHO NEED TO RESPOND IF THEY NEED TO, AND, AND FIND THE ADDRESSEE AND SO FORTH.
WELL, WE'LL HAVE A MANAGER AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE PERIMETER LIGHTING THAT'S A GIVEN.
CONTROLLED BY, BY OUR HOUSE METER.
AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS NO, UM, IN, UH, IN, DO YOU HAVE A, IS THIS GONNA BE LIKE LUXURY APARTMENTS, LIKE INTERIOR OR, YES.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE GOLD AND CRUSTED, YOU KNOW, TOILETS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT YEAH, THE HIGH END, MODERN LOOK, TOP OF THE LINE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY PASS THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE REPLACING THEM EVERY, YOU KNOW, FEW MONTHS.
I MEAN, YOU BUY CHEAP AND THEY BREAK, SO IT'LL BE MM-HMM.
SO YOU GUYS WILL BE PROVIDING THE WASHING MACHINES AND DRYERS? UH, NO, WE DON'T PROVIDE THAT.
UM, THAT'S GONNA BE INDEPENDENT, BUT WE WILL PROVIDE QUALITY, YOU KNOW, CABINETS, THE FLOORING, ALL THE, UH, FINISHES FOR UNIT.
SO THEY NEED TO SUPPLY THEIR OWN STOVE.
UH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE APPLIANCES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO HAVE U UH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR HERE, BUT WE DO HAVE UNITS WHERE WE'VE PROVIDED THAT AND ALSO WASHING MACHINES AND DRYER.
LIKE SOMETIMES IF WE CAN GET 'EM AT A REDUCED COST AND THEY'RE NOT CRAZY.
I HAVE ONE IN MY OFFICE RIGHT NOW THAT'S SITTING THERE WAITING BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO GET 'EM, WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE HAPPY.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE MOVE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT A REVOLVING DOOR.
SO IF WE COULD PROVIDE THAT, WE'LL DO IT.
IMAGINE ON THE FLYER WE SAY, HEY, WASHER, WASHER AND DRYER IN EVERY UNIT IT'S FULL, YOU KNOW, APPLIANCES, YOU'RE GONNA BE LIKE, OH, THIS IS GREAT.
YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE A LOT OF, UM, APARTMENTS, SINCE THEY ARE MORE INDIVIDUALLY OCCUPIED, YOU DON'T HAVE THE LAUNDRY ROOM THAT NORMALLY SOMETIME AN APARTMENT BUILDING WOULD HAVE.
AND THAT KIND OF REDUCES, UM, THE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR SOMEONE PHYSICALLY MOVING IN.
AND SO, I GUESS, UM, THE WAY SOME CITIES LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE CONSTRUCTING THAT PERHAPS YOU WOULD GET A BETTER DEAL ANYWAY ON ORDERING THE REFRIGERATORS AND THE WASHER AND DRYER, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY THE, THE STOVE
I'M SURE YOU ALREADY KNOW SOMEBODY GOES TO BUY A HOUSE HERE, THERE'S LIKE 10, 15 OFFERS, RIGHT? THE SAME THING WITH RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPETITIVE.
AND DO YOU PLAN ON HAVING A SECURITY GUARD ON SITE? NO, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A MANAGER.
THERE'LL BE A BLACK BELT BECAUSE THE COLONY, THE COLONY SAID THE SAME THING, BUT THEN, AND THEN THEY END UP ING TO HIRE A SECURITY GUARD.
I'M ONLY A BLUE BELT, YOU KNOW.
THIS IS, UH, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH, TO ADD ON TO THE LOOKS AND KEEPING THE AREA, THE DOWNTOWN AREA LOOKS SO MUCH SIMILAR OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
WE DO HAVE A REALLY NICE UNITS THAT ARE THE COLONIES.
AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE BUILDING HEIGHTS CURRENTLY.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH MAXING OUT THE BUILDING HEIGHTS.
THAT'S WHY YOU GET THE MODERN LOOK WITHOUT THE ROOF AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT, UM, THE HEIGHTS IS AT 40 FEET, HOWEVER YOU'RE BUILDING UP RIGHT NOW IS IT'S, IT'S 38 OR SO.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IF WE WERE TO, TO DO SOME MEDITERRANEAN, WHICH REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS A ROOF AND WHAT HAVE YOU, IT NEEDS MORE HEIGHTS.
SO AS A COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS HERE, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN HELP TO MAKE IT SO THAT THE BUILDING CAN POTENTIALLY LOOK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO ACHIEVE THAT YES.
WITHOUT HAVING TO IMPACT THAT.
WE HAVE A PROJECT IN, UH, VISTA, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT HAS, IT STILL HAS THAT MEDITERRANEAN, SANTA BARBARA LOOK, WE ACTUALLY TOOK INSPIRATION FROM SANTA BARBARA.
AND, UM, SO IT HAS DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.
IT'S NOT EXACTLY NOT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, COW ROOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE ARE ELEMENTS THAT YOU CAN, I, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF THESE, BUT I WOULD LEAVE IT TO THE ARCHITECT TO, YOU KNOW, UM, BE ABLE TO, TO BE CREATIVE.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY, EVEN JUST LOOKING AT THE PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT CAN BE, THE BRIT CAN BE TRANSFERRED FOR STONE, OR THE WROUGHT IRON CAN BE MORE MEDITERRANEAN.
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ARE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO FULL ON WITH ARCHES AND EVERYTHING, BUT THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT CAN BE MADE.I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE WAS REGARDING THE FRONT SETBACK.
UM, APPARENTLY THE, THE, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS A LOT OF STREET FRONTAGE AND IT, LOOKING FROM THE LOOK OF IT AND THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NO FRONTAGE SETBACK, HOWEVER, THE LANDSCAPINGS ARE THERE.
SO WHOSE LAND DOES THAT BELONG TO? THE CITY OR, WELL, IS THAT THE PARKWAY? OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, THEY'RE CONCEPTUAL, SO WE WILL, YOU KNOW, HAVE A MORE FINISHED, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE PLUSH, ET CETERA.
I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THIS IS CONCEPTUAL.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE'S ZERO SETBACK RIGHT NOW FOR THE FRONTAGE.
SO, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME SETBACK IN FRONT.
'CAUSE IF YOU SEE, UH, IN THE COLORED EL ELEVATIONS, WHERE'S THE RAMP? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT, IT SAID PROPOSED SETBACK IS, UH, FOR THE FRONTAGE IS ZERO, AND THE SIDE, WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF IT, FACING THE OCEAN SIDE, IT'S 10 FEET.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS CONCEPTUAL WITH CHAIR, CHAIR, IF I MAY.
UM, SO THE ZERO SETBACK, UM, IS THAT YOU TYPICALLY SETBACK IS TAKEN AT THE CR UM, CLOSEST POINT.
IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE WHOLE ENTIRE BUILDING IS AT ZERO SETBACK.
UM, THERE IS SOME, SOME AREAS THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT, THAT ARE ALLOCATED FOR, FOR LANDSCAPING, UM, PLANTERS ALONG THE FRONT AND UP, AND THERE ARE, THERE IS ALSO PROPOSED TO HAVE, UM, LANDSCAPING AND TREES PLANTED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER FIVE, PAGE NUMBER FIVE, YOU CAN SEE LIKE SOME OF THE, UH, SO FOR PAGE NUMBER FIVE AT ALL, THE LANDSCAPING SECTION, WOULD THAT BE ALL IN THE PARKWAY, WHICH JUST BELONGED TO THE CITY? NO, IT WOULD BE IN THE PARKWAY.
AND THEN ALSO ON OUR, ON OUR AREA, LIKE IF YOU SEE HERE, THESE AREAS HERE, SO, UM, PARKWAY, PARKWAY LANDSCAPING WILL BE DETERMINED, UM, TO THE SPECIFICATION OF THE CITY ENGINEER.
UM, SO IT AND THE PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR, SO IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE PLANS, BUT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL LANDSCAPING IN THE PARKWAY.
UM, BUT THERE, THERE IS SOME LANDSCAPING THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON INSTALLING ALONG THE, THE FRONTAGE, UM, IN FOUR, UH, PLANTER AREAS.
SO IT CURRENTLY, IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS, IT APPEARS LIKE THE BUILDING ITSELF CONSISTS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE FOR THE FRONT.
HOWEVER MAJORITY OF IT WILL BE STAIRS GOING UP TO THE CORRECT ELEVATIONS.
NOT NECESSARILY LANDSCAPE, LIKE A TRADITIONAL BUILDING THAT WE HAVE.
YOU HAVE THE FRONTAGE, I DON'T KNOW, 20, 30 FEET AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CONSISTING OF LANDSCAPING AREA.
BUT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, IT'S, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S ZERO SET BACK FROM THE, UM, FROM THE FRONT.
AND THEN THE REST IS BASICALLY THE BUILDING PART OF THE BUILDING'S TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE BUILDING WITH THE DIFFERENT SETBACKS IN THE STAIRS.
AND, AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE, I DON'T SEE A, IS THERE AADA A RAMP THERE TOO? IT'S, IT WILL BE A D A COMPLIANT.
SO WHERE YOU GONNA PUT THAT OUT IF THAT'S NOT IN THERE? ALSO, IF YOU CAN PULL UP, JOANNE, THE PLANS FOR THE, I WOULD BELIEVE IT'S THE E SETBACK, WHICH IS ONLY ONE FOOT FOUR INCHES.
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING AN ELEVATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR SIZE RIGHT HERE AT THE BOTTOM.
SO IT'S BASICALLY, IS THAT THE BUILDING OR JUST A RAMP DRIVING DOWN TO THE, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE RAMP DRIVING TO, TO THE SUBTERRANEAN PARK GARAGE.
THIS IS PART OF THE BUILDING OVER HERE FOR THE PARKING GARAGE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
THERE IS A, UM, THERE'S A RAMP THAT GOES DOWN AROUND THIS WAY
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IN THIS AREA.I GUESS MY CONCERNS IS, IS, I MEAN, WE'RE MAXING OUT THE SETBACK AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THAT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY TO THE ZERO LINE.
AND THIS IS A DOWNTOWN AREA, SO RARELY REALLY, THERE'S NO LANDSCAPING WHATSOEVER, UM, BESIDES THE LITTLE POTTERY OR THE LITTLE IN BETWEEN THE STAIRWAYS AND WHAT HAVE YOU THAT YOU ARE DOING SOME LANDSCAPING.
AND SINCE THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA, IT'S A BREATHING LIVING PROJECT, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MAYBE PUSH UP ONE FLOOR AND YOU GIVE US MORE LANDSCAPING, POSSIBLY AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS THAT, I MEAN, JUST TO SUMMIT, I DON'T KNOW, OBJECT FIRST OF ALL.
THEN WE ALSO, YOUR, WELL, FIRST OF ALL THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, BUT SECOND OF ALL, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD IT AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO REDESIGN.
BUT WHAT I CAN ASSURE YOU, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE, UM, STOOP IDEA, IT'S PART OF YOUR SPECIFIC PLAN.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED WITHIN YOUR DOCUMENT.
UM, WHAT WE CAN DO IS THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT, UH, LANDSCAPE FEATURES THAT WE COULD DO ALSO THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, DROUGHT TOLERANT AND THAT WE'RE BEING WATER WISE, ET CETERA, WHERE YOU CAN HAVE MAYBE A CREEPING BIND, ET CETERA, AND IT CAN STILL LOOK FLUSH AND GIVE YOU THAT LOOK.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, CHAIR, IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT.
SO THE DOWNTOWN PLAN WAS CREATED WITH THE PREFERENCE THAT A ZERO SETBACK, UM, BE PROVIDED, UH, THE CALL, UM, AND TO NOTE THAT THE COLONY WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND CODE AND IS MUCH HIGHER AT FIVE STORIES THAN, THAN THE, THAN THE WHAT'S ALLOWED NOW BY THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, WHICH IS 40 FEET TALL.
UM, UH, THE, AN EXAMPLE OF, I GUESS THE ZERO SETBACK CAN BE SEEN, UM, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ON, UM, DOWN THE STREET, MERRILL GARDENS, MERRILL GARDENS, IF I COULD ADD TO CHAIR.
SO THE INTENT OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN WAS TO MAKE IT WALKABLE, AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S THAT ZERO SET PUT BACK.
UM, SO THE PROPOSED DESIGN DOES MEET THE DOWNTOWN PLAN CODE.
UM, AND THAT WAS, LIKE I SAID, REALLY THE INTENT WAS TO MAKE IT WALKABLE, MAKE IT LIKE A DOWNTOWN FEEL.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT SETBACK IS ZERO
AND, UH, AND I'LL JUST SAY ALSO WHAT, LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER LEWIS SAID, I THINK THIS IS A D OH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND SO MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO TALK TO YOUR ARCHITECT ABOUT, BUT I THINK THE COLOR, SHE SHOULD BE MORE, I MEAN, SOMETHING TO MATCH THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR TO DOWNTOWN.
SO I THINK GRAY MAYBE TOO FLAT FOR THAT AREA.
I THINK THAT THE, THE PRINTING DOES IT JUSTICE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HARD LIKE WHEN YOU GET IT ON PAPER AND THEN EVEN IF, IF IT WAS PHOTOGRAPHIC PAPER, IT'S STILL GONNA BE A LITTLE OFF.
I, I LOVE THE BRICK, BUT I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN DESIGNS LIKE THIS IN, IN DOWNTOWN LA AND I MEAN IN THE LA AREA.
SO I KNOW, I KNOW HOW IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT'S STILL A DOWNTOWN AREA THAT SHOULD HAVE A VER KNOW, A DIFFERENT COLOR SHE OR SOMETHING.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY.
AND, UH, WE KNOW EVERYTHING GOES WELL.
WE'LL BE AT THE RIBBON CUTTING ONE DAY.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, ANYONE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
UH, YEAH, THEY'LL GIVE YOU A CARD RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
UH, MARIO ALVARO, DISTRICT THREE.
UM, IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE YEAH, THAT AREA, SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THAT AREA.
UM, I AM LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, JUST AT THE MAP AND EVERYTHING, IT'S, I FEEL IT'S MORE DOWNTOWN ADJACENT THAN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THE CONTRAST IS GONNA BE MM-HMM.
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A GREEN AND GRAY BUILDING, WHICH IS THE BANK OF THE WEST.UM, OPPOSITE FROM THE FRONTAGE IS A BUNCH OF EUCALYPTUS TREES.
I GUESS THAT WOULD BLOCK THE COLONY.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU MAY BE LOOKING AT IT FROM, WHAT WOULD IT BE? GLENDORA AND WEST COVINA PARKWAY.
MY, WHERE THE OLD FLOWER SHOP IS AT.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF TREES IN THERE.
I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TREE REMOVAL.
UM, BUT THE ONLY CONTRAST THAT I SEE TO THE COLONY WOULD BE JUST THE FRONTAGE.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S HIDDEN ALL THE WAY AROUND.
UM, AND I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, A COLOR SCHEME, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MATCHING UP SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE BROWNISH.
BUT I SEE THAT BANK OF THE WEST THERE THAT'S GREEN AND GRAY, SO, UH, IT'S
LIKE YOU SAY, IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF HODGEPODGE, BUT ALSO FEEL THAT THIS UNIT, IT'S, IT LOOKS VERY FUNCTIONAL.
IT, I MEAN, GREAT USE OF SPACE.
UM, BUT I FEEL IT'S GONNA BE MORE HIDDEN THAN ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE FRONTAGE.
AND THE FRONTAGE WOULD BE SOMEBODY DRIVING BY.
AND I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE AREA.
UH, DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT NOT HAVING ANY, UH, DARK SPACES.
'CAUSE REGARDLESS OF THIS AREA BEING UTILIZED, THINK OF THE WEST, THE UNIT THAT'S NEXT TO THAT, HAVE THOSE DARK PARKING AREAS AND RV PARKING IN THE BACK AT THE MOMENT,
AND DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR, AUDIENCE? AND THEN NOW WE'RE HERE TESTING FOR THOSE OPPOSED? ANYONE OPPOSE SEEN NONE.
UM, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.
I WILL NOW OPEN DISCU COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS, UM, COMMISSIONER LEWIS.
UM, AS, AS I, UH, AS I INDICATED, I, I, I THINK THAT THIS, THIS PROJECT IS A, IS A GOOD USE OF THAT SPACE AND, UH, WILL CERTAINLY BE A WELCOME ADDITION.
UM, I, I JUST AS I, AS I INDICATED IN, IN MY, MY QUESTIONS TO THE, UH, APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, UH, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AREA THAT IS DESIGNATED DOWNTOWN, UH, WHETHER, WHETHER IT BE, UM, WHETHER IT BE EXACTLY ALONG THE, UH, THE GLENDORA CORRIDOR OR NOT, UM, ADHERES TO SOME LEVEL OF CONTINUITY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THIS IS, WE JUST HAVE A HISTORY IN THIS CITY OF, OF, OF LETTING THINGS GO AND NOT HAVING ANY KIND OF CONTINUITY IN TERMS OF HOW THINGS ARE DEVELOPED.
AND FRANKLY, IF, IF WE WANT TO HAVE A, A, A DOWNTOWN AND ANY SORT OF CREDIBILITY ON THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WE REALLY DO FOCUS ON MAKING DOWNTOWN AS COHESIVE AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THIS.
IF THIS WAS, IF THIS WAS AN ANOTHER AREA OF THE CITY WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE, UM, WHERE, WHERE IT'S, IT'S NOT DESIGNATED AS THE DOWNTOWN AREA, I, I WOULD BE LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, MY, MY PERSPECTIVE IS I'M A, I'M A FAN OF, OF MODERN STYLE, UH, ARCHITECTURE.
HOWEVER, UH, UH, WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT THERE AS OF AS OF YET.
AND MY GUESS IS IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A HUNDRED YEARS BEFORE THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, REALISTICALLY POSSIBLE IN THAT AREA, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I, I I THINK THE FOOTPRINT OF OF THE BUILDING IS FINE.
IT, IT, IT'S JUST, WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT ALL OF THE, UH, ALL, ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALONG, UH, GLENDORA, OR EXCUSE ME, ALONG VINCENT, ARE, ARE ONE STORY BUILDINGS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS, THIS WILL HAVE PROMINENCE.
IT'LL BE A PROMINENT BUILDING, UM, IN THAT AREA.
AND, AND FRANKLY, THE, THE JUXTAPOSITION BETWEEN THE MODERN AND THE SORT OF QUASI SPANISH STYLE THAT WE HAVE IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOFTENED IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
UM, AND I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE PROJECT, UH, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT COME BACK WITH THOSE, WITH, WITH THAT, UH, UM, WITH, WITH THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT.
UM, AND REALISTICALLY, IF, IF, IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE, I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT AND I WOULD, UH, I WOULD, I'D VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
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UM, ACTUALLY THE, UM, LAYOUT OF THE UNITS ARE QUITE NICE.IT DOESN'T REALLY SUGGEST THAT IT'S SET UP FOR YOUNG FAMILIES.
UM, I KNOW IN WEST HOLLYWOOD, UM, AN APARTMENT WHERE MY DAUGHTER LIVES, SHE LIVES ON THE FIFTH FLOOR AND UM, RIGHT ON THE ROOF, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A HOT TUB AND THEY HAVE AREA AMENITIES THAT THE APARTMENT ITSELF PUTS TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUNG BUSINESS PEOPLE.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, WHAT PAGE IS THAT, YOU COULD LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN IN HERE, FIVE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS.
'CAUSE THIS IS SUPER, SUPER COMPLICATED.
I MEAN, IT'S A DIAMOND SO THAT, THAT, IT'S TAKEN US A LONG TIME.
BUT, UM, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE USE OF SPACE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT A TWO, ONE, WHAT, LEMME SEE, IT'S, UH, ONE, TWO A, 1.0.
SO YOU COULD SEE THE COURTYARD AREA HERE.
YOU HAVE THE POOL BACK HERE, THE POOL DECK.
AND WHAT'S REALLY NICE ABOUT THIS IS THAT YOU HAVE IT SEPARATE SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T, IF THERE'S KIDS IN THE POOL OR, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HEAR ALL THE SPLASHING, ET CETERA, BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, UH, IN AN AREA THAT IS VERY ACCESSIBLE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR COURTYARD AREA HERE, WHICH REALLY, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT GETS PEOPLE OUTTA THEIR HOMES AND BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LOCKED UP FOR SO LONG WITH THE PANDEMIC THAT IT'LL BE NICE FOR PEOPLE AND FAMILIES TO LOOK OUT THE WINDOW.
YOU HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE PLACES, YOU KNOW, WE FORESEE LIKE PLACES TO SIT, ET CETERA.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A GYM, THE LEASING OFFICE IS VERY CLOSE BY IN CASE PEOPLE NEED ANYTHING.
AND ALSO FOR SECURITY SO THAT YOU MAKE SURE NOBODY, YOU KNOW, IS DOING SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO OR THAT DOESN'T BELONG THERE.
DO YOU HAVE LIKE A AREA FOR ANIMALS TO USE RESTAURANT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AREAS IN THE PERIMETER MM-HMM.
AND, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE MAKEUP OF THE, OF THE RESIDENTS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOUND.
LIKE, YOU HAVE ONE PLAN, BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE THIS VERY ECLECTIC MIX OF PEOPLE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SO RIGID THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CREATE A, A DOG AREA AND THEN YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PETS.
SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAVING THE MANAGER ON SITE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN CREATE.
I, I SEE THERE'S ROOM BY THE POO AREA, SO YES.
AND I KNOW IN, UH, LIKE IN NOUSE, SO THEY HAVE THOSE LUXURY APARTMENTS OVER THERE OFF, UH, I THINK IT WAS SUAN, FOOTHILL, I THINK.
AND THEY HAVE A, A AREA TURF AREA WHERE ANIMALS COULD USE THE RESTROOM AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHERE PETS THESE DAYS.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION FOR THE APPLICANT? NO.
AND NOW WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN AT 8:10 PM POINT, POINT OF ORDER REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY RESIDENT DOES WANT TO SPEAK, I THINK THEY SHOULD OH YES.
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY REFERRAL TESTIMONY.
SO, UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN, UH, BASED UPON WHAT THE APPLICANT JUST SAID, WOULD ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WANNA SPEAK? MAY I SAY ONE MORE THING, PLEASE.
UM, THE OTHER THING ALSO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, I THINK, WELL AS MENTIONED, WE DID FOLLOW YOUR SPECIFIC PLAN, AND
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THAT'S IN REGARDS TO THE ARCHITECTURE, TO THE LAYOUT, ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.UM, WE ARE VERY WILLING TO WORK ON THOSE ELEMENTS OF DESIGN THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCORPORATED.
I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE EVERY DELAY, AND ESPECIALLY WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH OUR ECONOMY.
IT JUST, IT'S A HUGE HIT FOR US.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROGRAM IT SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO SOMETHING, SO, SO THAT WE CAN BUILD.
AND SO IF THERE'S, WITHOUT ANY, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, WE ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE, UM, ONE LAST, I GUESS PERHAPS MAYBE YOU CAN OR STAFF CAN HELP ANSWER.
UM, SINCE THIS IS A RENTAL APARTMENT AND THE COMPLEX IS HUGE, AND THE BALCONY AREA HAS A LOT OF, UH, STREET FRONTAGE, AND I WAS WONDERING HOW CAN WE, I GUESS, PREVENT IN THE FUTURES FOR RESIDENTS TO USE THE BALCONY AREA AS A STORAGE SO THAT SINCE THIS BUILDING IS NICE AND TALL THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE, UM, IS THERE A SECTION THAT HAS THAT PORTION SO THAT YOU CAN ADD A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, REQUIRING THE, THE, UM, APPLICANT AND OR OWNER MANAGER TO, TO REQUIRE TENANTS NOT TO STORE THE, UH, OH, TO PROHIBIT TENANTS FROM STORING, UM, ITEMS ON, ON THE BALCONY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, OF PATIO FURNITURE.
IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, UH, WE'LL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:13 PM AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON BACK TO COMMISSION COMMENTS AND, UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER BERA.
ANY COMMENTS? UH, WELL, NO, I JUST WANNA ACTUALLY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME.
UH, IT'S EVIDENT THAT YOUR COMPANY HAS PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS AND, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT THE USE OF THE SPACE, THE COMPONENTS, EVERYTHING YOU'VE, YOU'VE ALL PUT IN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT AND DETAIL INTO THIS.
SO, AND AGAIN, AS, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, LEWIS HAD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, WE WELCOME THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS, WE NEED THAT IN THAT SPACE, AND IT, AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE CITY.
UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE TO SAY IS I WOULD AGREE WITH PERHAPS JUST THE, YOU KNOW, SOME SMALL CHANGES.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE DRASTIC, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, I FIRST, WHEN I SAW IT LOOKED LIKE A SCHOOL
SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE WARMER, UH, AND MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER ANG.
UM, I THINK THE PROJECT IS GREAT, UM, OVERALL IN TERMS OF THE USAGE OF THE SPACE IN RW, BUT I WISH THAT WE COULD HAVE MORE SETBACK FOR THE FRONTAGE DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
WE DO NEED SOME LANDSCAPING BESIDES THE CITY'S LAND.
UM, AND THE FRONTAGE, UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS QUITE A LOT OF FRONTAGE AND I'M, I AM VERY CONCERNED REGARDING THE BALCONY USING AS A STORAGE AREA.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN PUT SOME CONDITIONS IN THEIRS TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, PROJECT-WISE, IT'S, IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE A PROJECT.
HOWEVER, IF WE, LIKE, I, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, OR WE WERE SAYING THAT IT IS A LIVING, BREATHING PROJECT, AND IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, UM, WHETHER, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IF THE HEIGHT IS THE LIMITATIONS, PERHAPS THE COMMISSIONERS, WE CAN WORK WITH YOUR COMPANY TO SEE.
PERHAPS WE CAN GO UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THE SETBACK AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, BUT OVERALL, THE PROJECT IS REALLY NICE.
AND SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO TWO PROJECTS CONSISTENT WITH A COMMUNITY PLAN, GENERAL PLAN OR ZONING.
UH, AND, UM, WITH SOME CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UH, THE CONDITIONS I HAVE IN MIND ARE, IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE ADEQUATE PERMANENT LIGHTING, UH, AND THE OUTSIDE PERMI PERIMETER AREA.
UM, SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED OR MENTIONED IT, THERE SHOULD BE, UM, SOME SORT OF C C T V PUT IN PLACE,
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UM, TO GO ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER HANG MADE, THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO STORAGE ON THE PATIO EX WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PATIO FURNITURE.AND THEN PUTTING INTO MIND WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER BE AND COMMISSIONER LEWIS STATEMENTS MADE, WHICH WAS, UH, CO OR MEMBER COMMISSIONER LEWIS COULD SAY A LITTLE BETTER, BUT I MEAN THE COLOR STREAM OR COSMETICS OR, UH, SOMETHING TO, UH, BRING OUT DOWNTOWN WEST COVINA, AND IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES LIKE TO ADD, ADD TO THAT, UH, CONDITIONS.
SO I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE IT, IT, IT SEEMS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO MOTION TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO AL TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS AND THEN DIRECT STAFF TO, UM, TO INCLUDE THE, UH, THE THREE ITEMS THAT, THAT YOU INCLUDED, THE OUTSIDE LIGHTING C C T V, NO STORAGE ON THE PATIO, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT EARLIEST MEETING, HOPEFULLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK IT REALLY IS JUST A QUESTION OF HOW QUICKLY CAN AN ARCHITECT, UM, COME BACK WITH, WITH THE SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS ON THAT.
THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, A QUESTION THAT WE MAY WANT TO, UH, INQUIRE OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, YEAH, BECAUSE THIS IS, THERE'S A COLOR OR COSMETIC ISSUE, UH, I DO AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS CAN BE, CAN BE CONDITIONED IF THEY'RE SPECIFIC, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE, UM, IF, IF THE OBJECTIVE IS TO LOOK MORE LIKE THE COLONY AND, AND HAVE THAT SIMILAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE MM-HMM.
UH, CHANGE THE, UM, WOOD ENO, WHAT WAS IT? PHENOLIC WOOD PANELS TO MORE OF A, THE STONE VENEER.
THE STUCCO WOULD BE SMOOTH, UH, SMOOTH TILE.
THEY INCORPORATE, UH, A, UH, SLOPED ROOF ELEMENT THAT HAS A TILE ROOF SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE COLONY.
AND THE ALUMINUM PANELS WOULD BE SMOOTH STUCCO WITH, WITH DECORATIVE TILE DE DETAILING.
AND THE, UM, BALCONY RAILINGS WOULD BE, RATHER THAN THE MESH, UM, METAL, IT WOULD BE DECORATED DECORATIVE WR IRON.
AND THEY CAN INCREASE THE HEIGHT BY NO MORE THAN TWO FEET.
UM, TO INCORPORATE A, I GUESS, UM, AN ARC ELEMENT AT THE TOP SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE COLONY.
UM, THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
AND YOU CAN ALSO CONDITION IT SO THAT, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO SEE THE, THE, THE FINAL DESIGN, UH, IT CAN BE CONDITIONED THAT IT GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON CONSENT.
SO THAT, UM, IF A, HE, UM, A HEARING WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE REQUIRED IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS, IS OKAY WITH IT.
UM, OR YOU CAN ALSO LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
UM, UM, I, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE THE COLONY EXACTLY.
I THINK THIS, I THINK THIS IS A MODERN LOOK, BUT I THINK, UH, A DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEME OR SOMETHING OR SOMETHING TO BRING IT OUT MORE AS IS DOWNTOWN WEST COVINA, I THINK, I THINK THE IDEA IS, UH, DOWNTOWN WEST COVINA
'CAUSE I THINK THE APPLICANT ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THEY, SHE HAD SOMETHING IN MIND, SOMETHING THEY HAD DONE AT A PREVIOUS LOCATION.
OR ANYTHING? UM, I, NO, I MEAN, WE, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE IN THE CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, YEAH, I I I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T REALLY DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE CAN'T REALLY.
SO I'M GONNA AMEND MY EMOTION, UM, WITH SOME OF THE CONDITIONS I MENTIONED, BUT ALSO, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE COLOR SHAME, UH, I THINK WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO MATCH THE COLONY.
WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU TO DO A WHOLE NEW ARCHITECTURAL
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DESIGN.WE'RE JUST SAYING, I THINK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE COLOR, SHE, UH, I THINK IT SOMETHING TO MATCH THE DOWNTOWN WEST COVINA.
AND IT COULD EVEN BE THE IDEA OF A DOWNTOWN, LIKE IF YOU WERE TO BUILD IT IN THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN LA, KIND OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IT'S JUST THE IDEA TO, UH, BRING OUT, BRING THE BUILDING, MAKE IT STAND OUT.
UM, IF I COULD, IT'S A LITTLE BIT GENERAL.
SO YOU'RE SAYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE DOWNTOWN LA OR DOWNTOWN O COVINA.
AND SO THE, THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, SO FOR EXAMPLE, HERITAGE HOMES, THEY HAVE A COLORED ETTES, UH, LIKE A BLUISH, AND ANOTHER ONE HAS A DIFFERENT COLOR SHEEN.
I THINK SOLID, JUST LIKE A BASIC, UH, THIS, THE COLOR CURRENTLY IS JUST TOO PLAIN.
UH, JUST LIKE COMMISSIONER BRACERO SAID, IT LOOKED LIKE A, YOU WANT THEM TO WORK ON SCHEME, LOOKS LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL TO ME, I, OR MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I, I WILL BE VERY SPECIFIC IN IN, IN WHAT IT, WHAT I HAVE IN MIND.
UM, AND I, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, SOME SORT OF EITHER ROOF LINE OR, OR, UM, SPANISH STYLE, UM, CORNERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT MAKE, MAKE THEIR AT OR MAKES IT SUCH THAT THERE IS SOME CONTINUITY.
BUT I, I'M, I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH SEEING, UM, SOME, SOME MODERN, UH, ARCHITECTURAL, UM, UM, ASPECTS TO THIS.
IT'S JUST, IT NEEDS TO, THERE, THERE NEEDS, I I, I DON'T WANT TO, TO MAKE THE BUILDING SORT OF PIGEONHOLED INTO ONE SPECIFIC STYLE, SO LONG AS IT HAS SORT OF A NATURAL BLENDED CONTINUITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, BECAUSE, BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CER, I'M CERTAINLY NOT, UH, CRAZY ABOUT THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WAS CHOSEN FOR THE, THE COLONIES, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
AND SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER WE DO NEEDS TO HAVE, IT NEEDS, NEEDS TO BEAR IN MIND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS, IT'S IN ALREADY AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
AND I, I HOPE THAT THAT IS SPECIFIC ENOUGH, UM, FOR, FOR A REQUEST.
THE FEATURES OF CORRECT, THE CALLING, NOT NECESSARILY THE COLOR SCHEME, BUT SOME OF THE FEATURES, THE, THE, THE COLOR SCHEME, AGAIN, MORE EARTH TONES, I THINK IS WHAT IS WARMER.
WARMER IS, IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT ALSO SOME ARCHITECTURAL SIMILARITIES THAT ARE, THAT CREATE CONTINUITY.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I, I WOULD, I WOULD ENVISION FOR THIS.
AND SO I, I THINK THE, THE APPLICANT MAYBE HAS, AND, AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.
CAN WE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN?
YEAH, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION, CONTINUE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL CONDITIONS YOU'VE ASKED FOR MM-HMM.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU GUYS ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT I KNOW IT HAS TO KEEP BEING REMINDED.
'CAUSE THE STATE HAS TAKEN A LOT OF YOUR AUTHORITY AWAY.
UM, YOU CANNOT DENY BASED ON SUBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.
NOW WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION AND THAT'S HEALTHY AND GOOD, AND THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED A WILLINGNESS TO, TO WORK ON THAT.
BUT I DID JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT.
AND THERE'S, YOU ALSO HAVE A LIMIT OF FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, UH, A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
SO, UM, BUT IF, IF WE COULD GET, YEAH, SO I'M GONNA RECALL, MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION SO THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK, THAT THEY CAN PRESENT.
SO AFTER, AFTER THIS MOTION, WE'LL CALL OUT REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE COULD, UM, SO SHE COULD HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE COMMISSION HAS IN MIND.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS WHAT WAS ENVISIONED BY COUNSEL.
I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION AND, AND, AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, THAT WE CONTINUE THIS, THIS HEARING ONE, ONE TIME, UM, DIRECTING STAFF TO, TO WORK WITH THE SCHEDULE OF THE APPLICANT SO THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE WITH A REQUEST THAT THE, UM, THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES ARE, ARE, UM, INCLUDE, UM, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE, THE ROOF CORNERING, UM, STYLE OF THE,
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THE COLONIES, WHICH IS IMME IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT AND HAVE MORE EARTH TONE COLORS.UM, BUT NOT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED THE DESIGN SO THAT THERE IS CONTINUITY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
UM, AS WELL AS REQUESTING THAT STAFF PUT TOGETHER A, UM, AN UPDATED, UH, PROPOSED, UH, PRECISE PLAN, UH, FOR APPROVAL THAT INCLUDES THE, UH, CONDITIONS OF OUTSIDE LIGHTING, UH, C C T V AND THE, UH, NO STORAGE ON THE PATIO.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS WHAT, UH, MISS, UH, OR COMMISSIONER HANG WAS DISCUSSING.
I, I GUESS WHAT I WAS SAYING WHEN I WAS, UM, ASKING ABOUT THE LIGHTING, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE BUILDING CODE, THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE EXTERIOR LIGHTING.
IT'S JUST THAT THE ELEVATION DRAWINGS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US DON'T SHOW WHERE THE LIGHTING FIXTURES AND WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGHOUT.
AND WOULD THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO UNDERSTAND? I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK HAVING A, UH, A STATEMENT ADEQUATE PERMANENT LIGHT PLAN, UH, WILL BE BENEFICIAL.
BUT IF I REMEMBER, I THINK THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT ANOTHER HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT WE, THE LIGHTING PLAN WILL BE PART OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S, UH, UH, PERMIT SUBMITTALS.
BUT I THINK WHAT HE WAS TALKING, I WANT IT SHOULD BE PRINTED BECAUSE, UH, THAT DEVELOPMENT WE'RE REFERRING TO HAS AN OPTION TO SHUT IT OFF AND IT BECOMES PURE DARK.
SO
UM, AND ALSO BUILDING CODES REQUIRES YOU TO SET CERTAIN, CERTAIN LIGHTINGS ONLY, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS MORE LIGHTING FOR THE EXTERIOR PORTION, UM, WHETHER IT'S SURROUNDING THE FRONTAGE OF THE STREET AREA SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, TRADITIONALLY WHEN WE HAVE A SETBACK OR A FRONT SETBACK, THEY CAN PUT ACTUALLY LAMPPOSTS.
BUT NOW BECAUSE IT'S AT THE ZERO SETBACK, IT'S REALLY KNOWN.
SEE, THEY CAN EASILY PUT LIGHTING, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN AT HOTELS AND STUFF.
WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE PLANTERS, THEY'LL HAVE LIGHTING FIXTURES ACTUALLY IN THOSE AREAS.
BUT JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS FOR FIRE AND POLICE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE EXTERIOR LIGHTING FIXTURES ANYWAY.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING.
WELL, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE TRADITIONAL LIGHTING THAT THEY NORMALLY, WE ARE REQUIRED WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, IT'S MORE OF THE EXTERIOR PORTION AND A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHTING FOR THE STREET AREA WHEN YOU'RE WALKING BY, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT STREETLIGHTS THEN? JUST THE
SO STREETLIGHTS, OR NO, IT'S PROPERTY LIGHTS.
IT'S THE PROPERTY LIGHTS ON THE EXTERIOR.
UH, SOME OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE AN OPTION WHEN THE HOMEOWNER GETS TO SHUT OFF THAT EXTERIOR LIGHT, UH, WHICH MAKES IT PURE DARK.
SO THERE ARE, SO I, I, I, I THINK WE CAN PER PERHAPS INCLUDE A CONDITION THAT THAT INDICATES THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING OF THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE, UH, CONTROLLED BY THE, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE BUILDING AND ON FROM, FROM DUSK TILL DAWN OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, RATHER THAN GETTING INTO THE MINUTIAE OF THE LIGHTING PLAN, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT COULD DO.
I, I THINK, YEAH, AS LONG AS IT'S, I CAN COMMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT IF THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I'LL HAVE IS THAT THIS DOES THIS A MODERN DESIGN.
SO IF YOU ADD SPANISH TILES TO WHERE YOU TAKE AWAY THE FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE OPEN TO THIS COMMISSIONER, SO AMENDED THAT THEY COME BACK WITH A DESIGN THAT IS AS, I MEAN, IT'S MODERN, SO ALLOW THEM TO DO A MODERN LOOK, BUT SOMEHOW COME BACK WITH A DESIGN THAT MATCHES THE GENERAL DOWNTOWN AREA.
WELL, I THINK WHAT SHE SUGGESTED WAS A SANTA BARBARA LOOK.
SO, SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHANGE A WHOLE LOT ON THE ROOF.
YEAH, I, I, I THINK I, I, I, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE THE APPLICANT SOME DISCRETION IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY BRING BACK, BUT I THINK I, I THINK TO THE, TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM, THAT WE HAVE SOME CONTINUITY WITH MAJOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE DOWN THERE.
THE, THE, THE REALITY IS, IS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ACHIEVE CONTINUITY OVERNIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
AND WE, WE SHOULD TRY TO, WE SHOULD TRY TO WORK TO ACHIEVE THAT, UM, IN, IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA AS OTHER DOWNTOWNS HAVE
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DONE.AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
FUNDAMENTALLY, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO STRIVE FOR HERE.
SO, UM, I I THINK WITH I, I SUPPORT A GENERAL YEAH, LIKE YOU SAID.
SO, SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UM, I'LL, I'LL AMEND MY MOTION SOLELY AS TO THE ASPECT OF THE REMOVING THE LIGHTING PLAN, BUT HAVING THE DUSK TIL DAWN CONTROLLED BY THE CONTROLLED BY THE MANAGEMENT FOR THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING.
SO THAT, UH, SO, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND I'LL, THAT'S MY MOTION AND I'LL, UH, SECOND THAT.
SO CAN I, CAN I JUST GET CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION
UM, AND THEN TO PROVIDE, UH, THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING TO BE CONTROLLED BY THE MANAGEMENT AND THE HOURS BETWEEN DESK TILT.
DAWN, UM, PROVIDE SOME KIND OF SECURITY SYSTEM, UH, CAMERA SYSTEM FOR THE FACILITY.
YEAH, JUST HAVE A C C T V PLANT AND THEN, UH, TO PROHIBIT STORAGE OF, UM, IN THE PATIOS ALONG THE STREET.
BUT, UH, FOR PATIO FURNITURE, EXCEPT FOR, YEAH, NO HANGING OF, BUT SPECIFICALLY MATCHING THE, THE COLONY OR SPECIFICALLY MATCHING SOME FEATURES.
I SAID SPECIFICALLY THE COLONIES AS THAT BUILDING, NOT ANY OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFICALLY EVERY DETAIL OF IT.
CORRECT? YES, THAT IS ACCURATE.
SO THEY CAN MATCH THE BANK A LITTLE BIT.
THEY CAN MATCH THE STORE ACROSS THE STREET A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE ONLY THE COLONY AT THE LAKES.
ONLY THE COLONY SPECIFICALLY THE, THEN WE TAKE IT RIGHT TO DESIGN THEN LITTLE MEDITERRANEAN FLAVOR, A LITTLE SOMETHING.
SANTA BARBARA, TOM SANTA BARBARA, THEY'RE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD.
HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE OUR, ALREADY, ALREADY HAS SOMETHING IN MIND ALREADY.
CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT IF THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE FINANCIALLY? NO, THIS IS A, THIS IS A CONTINUING MEETING, SO I KNOW I'M ASKING ARE WE CONTINU? SO WE'LL GET BACK TO THE APPLICANT NEXT WEEK? YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE THE REQUEST TO THE APPLICANT.
MAYBE SHE DOESN'T WANT, DO THAT SOON, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
CONTINUE AND CONSIDER IT AT THAT POINT, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT, UH, POSSIBLE MEETING.
WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT.
SO WE HAVE, SO I'LL, I'LL SECOND THAT AND, UH, CAN WE GET A DATE CERTAIN ON THAT OR, UM, YEAH.
WHEN'S THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING? THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS ON SEPTEMBER 26TH.
UM, THE, TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, IN THE MEETING AFTER THAT IS OCTOBER 10TH, UM, FOR THE 26TH, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE PLANS BY THE 18TH.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THE APPLICANT IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, OR WOULD YOU PREFER THE 10TH, YOU KNOW,
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I VOTE, AND I'LL JUST SAY AGAIN, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE DEVELOPERS FOR INVESTING IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AND BUILDING HOUSING PROJECTS FOR THOSE MOST IN NEED.
AND, OR, I MEAN, THERE'S A HOUSING SHORTAGE AT THE SAME TIME IF, IF, IF I SECOND THIS MOTION, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE PARTNERSHIP AT YOUR, YOUR COMPANY DOESN'T WANT TO DO OR DOESN'T SEE FORESEE TO DO, THEN AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL TO THE DECISIONS THAT THIS COMMISSION MAKES TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN, UM, SO AT THIS TIME, THIS, THIS, THIS ACT, OH, ACTUALLY, UH, SO THIS ACTION, UH, WILL BE CONTINUED AT THE NEXT, UH, MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 26TH.
NON-HEARING ITEMS. UM, JOANNE, WILL YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA?
[3. DRAFT DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT]
OKAY.THE, THE NEXT ITEM AND IT ON THE AGENDA IS,
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IS JUST DESIGNED TO PROVIDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH INFORMATION.THE, THAT THE DRAFT OF DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE CITY'S AGENDA AND HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE PROVIDING THE INFORMATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S SEVERAL PAGES LONG, AND TO GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TIME TO REVIEW THE MATERIAL PRIOR TO THE OCTOBER 10TH, 2023, UM, HEARING THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING AND THAT IT'S TE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR.
THERE IS NO REPORT OR DECISION THAT THE ACT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO TAKE AT THE MOMENT.
NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MS ITEMS. WHEN ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO REPORT OR COMMENT ON AN ITEM.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE
[4. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT]
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT.PAULINA, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS TO REPORT HER PHONE?
UM, YES, THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMING EVENTS.
UM, WE HAVE DISTRICT FOUR COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, HELD BY COUNCILMAN OLI CANTOS.
THIS, UH, SATURDAY 8:00 AM, UH, TO 10:00 PM AT WOODGROVE PARK.
UM, ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETING IS AVAILABLE ONLINE, BUT IT IS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH AT 8:00 AM TO 10:00 PM.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THIS SATURDAY THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY, UH, NAACP'S 59TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION.
CELEBRATION AT, UM, UH, ALLIED AT, YEAH, AT ALLIED AT 10:00 AM THANK YOU.
UM, NEXT SATURDAY WE HAVE TETA TRUCK EVENT THAT'LL BE HELD HERE AT CITY HALL SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD AT 11:00 AM IT'S GONNA BE A FAMILY EVENT AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME.
UH, THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH WILL BE HAVING THE CENTENNIAL STATE OF THE CITY.
UH, TICKET SALES ARE AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME, AND IT'LL BE HELD AT THE SPORTS FLEX STARTING AT 5:30 PM UM, FOLLOWING THAT EVENT THAT SATURDAY, UM, SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE HAVE THE FIRST ANNUAL WEST COVINA MOON FESTIVAL.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF VENDORS, A LOT OF PERFORMERS, UM, WITH, UH, THE BRUNO'S MARS TRIBUTE BAND PERFORMING THAT EVENING.
UM, FESTIVITY START AT EIGHT, UH, 10:00 AM AND IT'S GONNA BE AT, UM, ALONG GLENDORA AVENUE.
[5. CITY COUNCIL ACTION]
IS THERE ANY CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS REPORT? PAULINA? YES.AT THE SEPTEMBER 5TH, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 15, ADOPTING THE CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 23 DASH TWO, WHICH IS THE, UH, SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT SERVICE STATIONS.
SINCE THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO CONSIDER AT THIS MEETING, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF MS. CARLA HAYWARD, UH, 8:39 PM PACIFIC TIME.