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GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.WELCOME TO OUR WEST COVINA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TODAY, AUGUST 15TH, 2023.
AND I AM ROSARIO DIAZ, YOUR CENTENNIAL MAYOR.
TONIGHT'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR MATT CHAVEZ FROM ONE IN ALL CHURCH, AND I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU TONIGHT THAT WE GET THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME.
'CAUSE THAT MEANS WE HAVE BREATH.
AND WHEN WE HAVE BREATH, WE HAVE PURPOSE.
WE HAVE LIFE, AND WE HAVE A MEANING AND A PLAN.
SO WE THANK YOU, GOD TONIGHT FOR ALL OF OUR, OUR COUNCIL TONIGHT, LORD, AND, AND, UM, SUPPORTING TEAMS AND PEOPLE COMING OUT TONIGHT, GOD, TO SUPPORT, BECAUSE WE DO LOVE WEST COVINA.
AND YOU ALWAYS SAY, TO PRAY FOR OUR CITY, TO PRAY FOR OUR STATE, FOR THAT MATTER, AND ALL OF OUR COUNTRY AND ALL OF OUR LEADERS.
BUT LORD, WE THANK YOU GOD FOR WISDOM.
WE THANK YOU FOR CLARITY, LORD.
AND WE PRAY FOR JUST YOUR FAVOR, BECAUSE WHEN OUR CITY PROSPERS, WE PROSPER GOD.
AND WE KNOW YOU LOVE US, GOD, AND YOU'RE ALWAYS PROVIDE.
SO WE THANK YOU, GOD, THAT WE, AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, THAT WE SURRENDER EVERYTHING TO YOU GOD.
'CAUSE WE KNOW YOU'RE IN CHARGE, GOD.
AND WE THANK YOU GOD, THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS GUIDING AND YOU ALWAYS PROVIDE.
SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR FAVOR, YOUR PEACE, AND LET YOUR FACE SHINE UPON US TONIGHT.
IN JESUS' NAME, EVERYBODY SAID AMEN.
PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND REPEAT AFTER ME.
I ALLEGIANCE TO THE BLACK I'LL BE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR IF YOU CAN, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING.
AND WE WANNA HAVE A SILENT MOMENT FOR THE MAUI FIRES.
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA IS ROCKED BY THE DEVASTATION AND WILDFIRES IN MAUI OF THE FIRES HAVE CAUSED.
I WOULD LIKE THE COMMUNITY TO NOTE, TO KNOW THAT WE MOURN AND STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE LOST LOVED ONES, HOMES AND PROPERTY.
OUR HEARTFELT SUPPORT GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY OF LAINA MAUI, SURROUNDING AREAS.
ASSISTANT CITY AMME AND CLERK.
VITO, PRESENT, MAYOR PRO TEM TABBA PRESENT.
IS THERE ANYTHING TO REPORT IN OUR CLOSED SESSION? NOTHING TO REPORT.
[PRESENTATIONS]
PRESENTATIONS.UM, I WANNA INVITE ALBERT NUNEZ AND, UH, FIRE CHIEF CAPELLI TO THE FRONT.
HOW ARE YOU? THIS CERTIFICATE HONORS ALBERT NUNEZ AS PARAMEDIC OF THE YEAR 2023.
HE RECEIVED THIS AWARD FROM EMINENT HEALTH QUEEN OF THE VALLEY.
UH, COUNCIL MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, CITIZENS, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, NUNEZ NUNEZ, AND THE REST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF IS HERE.
UH, I WANNA SAY THAT I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT, UM, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC NUNEZ WAS THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR FOR EMANATE HEALTH.
UM, VERY PROUD AND, UH, EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
UH, I WANNA SAY THAT FIREFIGHTER NUNEZ HAS BEEN WITH THE WEST COVINA FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS.
HE'S BEEN A PARAMEDIC FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS.
HE, UH, HAS BEEN OUT ON MANY, UH, MULTIPLE E M T DEPLOYMENTS, PARAMEDIC DEPLOYMENTS ON WILDLAND FIRES TO HELP, UH, OTHER OF OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR MUTUAL AID RESOURCES.
HE HAS, UH, BEEN AN EXPLORER ACADEMY, UM, PART OF THE CADRE FOR OUR EXPLORERS.
HE IS, RUNS OUR FLASHLIGHT DETAIL, WHICH MEANS HE MANAGES EVERY FLASHLIGHT THAT WE HAVE, THE ONES ON THE RIGS, AND THE ONES IN OUR POCKET MEANS HE HAS TO DEAL WITH ME WITH PURCHASING THROUGH FINANCE TO GET 'EM.
HE DOES A GREAT JOB KEEPING US UP TO DATE ON THAT.
HE ALSO, AS, UH, IS ALSO ACADEMY TRAINER, DOES OUR PT WITH THEM.
HE'S BILINGUAL AND HE IS ALSO A PARAMEDIC PRECEPTOR.
UH, I WANNA SAY THAT HE'S ALSO SPENT HIS VOLUNTEER TIME DOING A 24 HOUR CROSSFIT CHALLENGE FOR, UH, CHILDREN'S CANCER.
UH, ONE TIME CAME IN SECOND, AND ONE TIME CAME IN FIRST WITH A BUNCH OF TEAMS WHO DID 24 HOUR CHALLENGE, DIFFERENT EVENTS.
AND SO THAT'S, AND REPRESENTING WEST COVINA FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WEST COVINA COMMUNITY FOR THAT AT ANOTHER COMMUNITY, WHICH IS AMAZING.
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SO I WANNA TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT QUEEN OF THE VALLEY SAID ABOUT, UM, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC NUNEZ.THEY STATED THAT, UM, WELL, FOR 2023, UH, HE'S ALWAYS HAS A GREAT BEDSIDE MANNER.
HE HAS EXCELLENT PARAMEDIC SKILLS.
NURSES THERE AND OTHER FOLKS AT THE HOSPITAL SAID THEY'VE LEARNED FROM HIM.
THEY SAID HE HAS OUTSTANDING PATIENT CARE AND DEDICATION TO GO THE EXTRA MILE.
QUOTING ALSO, ONE PERSON SAID, HE'S MY PERSONAL VOTE.
HE IS ALWAYS EXPRESSING CONCERN FOR THE PATIENTS HE HAS TREATED.
HE MAY BE A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE I SEE HIM, BUT HE WILL APPROACH ME TO ASK ABOUT A PATIENT HE TRANSPORTED TO FIND OUT THE OUTCOME, RADIOLOGY RESULTS, LAB RESULTS, ET CETERA.
THEN HE WILL REFLECT TO SEE IF HE COULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
THIS IS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO WILL BE A LEADER AND ULTIMATELY HELP DRIVE CHANGES TO IMPROVE THE CARE THAT WE DELIVER TO OUR PATIENTS.
WHEN I READ THAT AND HEAR THAT, IT JUST TELLS ME THAT HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW HE DID, HOW THE PATIENTS DID, WHAT HE COULD HAVE DONE.
BIT DIFFERENT, DID HE DO EVERYTHING RIGHT? AND JUST LEARN FROM THAT, WHICH IS VERY PROUD TO HEAR THAT.
AND I, AND I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT EVERYBODY, UH, WEARING A WES COVINA FIRE PATCH IS NOT SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT.
AND, UH, I JUST WANT SAY, UH, FIREFIGHTER PER MC NEWMAN, I'M VERY PROUD TO GIVE YOU THIS, UH, OH, THIS FROM EMANATE HEALTH AS PARENT OF THE YEAR FOR 2023.
AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE HERE TO RECOGNIZE ALBERT NUNEZ FOR OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTION PARAMEDIC OF THE YEAR 2023 EMINENT HOSPITAL.
WE ALSO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION PRESENTED TO ALBERT NUNEZ IN RECOGNITION OF OUTSTANDING SERVICE FROM JOSH NEWMAN'S OFFICE, SENATOR 29TH DISTRICT, AUGUST 15TH, 2023.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK, UH, CHIEF CAPELLI COUNSEL FOR ALLOWING THIS RECOGNITION TO HAPPEN, UM, DURING A COUNCIL MEETING.
BUT I ALSO WANNA TAKE TIME AND, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THE PERSONNEL OF THE WEST COVINA FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE TRULY HAVE THE BEST PARAMEDICS IN THE AREA, AND ANY ONE OF THESE GUYS COULD HAVE BEEN UP HERE RECEIVING THESE AWARDS.
UM, AND I WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO MY CREW, UH, CAPTAIN DAN KOHLER, ENGINEER ERIC EISENBERG, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, DAN SALDOVAR, AND FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, UH, ARD FLORES.
UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THOSE GUYS FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY CALL THAT WE RUN, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST ME THERE, IT'S, IT'S A TEAM EFFORT.
AND, UH, IT TAKES A TEAM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND I'M JUST THANKFUL TO HAVE, UH, GOOD PARTNERS AND, AND A GOOD CREW.
NOW I'D LIKE TO INVITE JASON TO THE FRONT.
HI, HOW ARE YOU? THE COMMUNITY SERVICE FOUNDATION IN RECEIVING THIS CHECK FROM THE WEST COVINA EDUCATION ORGANIZATION.
UH, MY NAME'S JOCELYN, SPELLED J I A S O N.
UH, I'M REPRESENTING A COMPANY, S A E, WHICH IS C AMERICAN EDUCATION, WHICH PROVIDE AFFORDABLE, I HEAR YOU.
UH, TO PROVIDE A AFFORDABLE T TOURING SERVICE FOR FIRST GRADE TO 12TH GRADE STUDENT.
ALSO AT THE SAME TIME PROVIDING SPACE FOR, UH, COLLEGE STUDENTS TO GAIN WORK EXPERIENCE.
UM, SO I MEAN, OVERALL WE'RE HERE.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO GIVE, UH, OUR THANKS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE ARE, I'VE BEEN HERE IN THE WEST COAST CITY ALL MY LIFE SO FAR.
UM, BUT I'M STILL PLANNING TO STAY.
AND I'LL DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO, IF OPPORTUNITY CONTINUE, ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY.
I, WE'LL BE VERY HAPPY TO, AND, UH,
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I KNOW FILM FESTIVAL IS COMING UP AND MAN, I WISH BACK WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, WE WERE MAKING SURE FILM, WERE REJOINING THE FESTIVAL YEARLY, NONSTOP.UM,
LETTI HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH OUR FILM MET, AND I KNOW SHE'S VERY PROUD OF IT, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SHE'S HERE TO RECEIVE IT.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE SPONSORS, JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THIS GOES BACK TO THE STUDENTS.
UM, IT'S STRAIGHT STUDENT LED PROGRAM.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO JUST QUICKLY, UM, JUST MENTION THIS YEAR WITH THE HELP OF OUR SPONSORS, WE EXPANDED THE FESTIVAL TO INCLUDE STUDENTS IN THE ENTIRE EAST SAN GABRIEL VALLEY.
EVERY YEAR WE KEEP GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER.
OUR EVENTS COMPLETELY STUDENT RUN FROM OUR MC TO STAGE HANDS TO TECH SUPPORT PHOTOGRAPHY AND MORE.
AND WE'RE EXCITED TO PROVIDE PAID OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS THIS YEAR.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR OUR SPONSORS, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT KNOWN FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO STOP BY.
IT'S THIS FRIDAY, 6:00 PM COME SUPPORT ALL THE STUDENTS.
AGAIN, THEY'RE FROM THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY AREA, AND IT'S GONNA BE HERE AT THE WEST COVINA CIVIC CENTER.
WE'LL BE HAVING THREE LIVE STUDENT BANDS, PERFORM INDUSTRY EXPERTS, UH, SPEAKER INCLUDING VINCENT RODRIGUEZ, WHO STARRED IN THAT TV SHOW, MY CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND, WHICH WAS FILMED HERE IN WEST COVINA.
AND SO HE WILL BE HERE IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE PICTURES WITH HIM OR ASK, UM, QUESTIONS.
AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO SAY WE'RE EXCITED FOR STUDENTS TO LEARN, ASK QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY.
AND, UM, FINALLY, WE'RE GONNA PREMIERE AND HAVE THE RED CARPET EXPERIENCE WITH THEIR SWAG BAGS.
SO ALL THIS AGAIN GOES BACK TO THE STUDENTS.
THEY GET THEIR SCHOLARSHIPS, THEY GET LITTLE GOODIE BAGS, AND, UM, IT'S A FUN, GREAT EVENT FOR LEARNING.
AND IT'S NICE TO HAVE IT HERE IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS, UH, SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY.
WANNA COME ON DOWN? ANYTHING ELSE? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS SAY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, THE STAFF, THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE JUST WANNA THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF YOUR, OF OUR HEARTS, FOR YOUR GENEROSITY, FOR RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF INVESTING IN COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND JUST HELPING TO SPREAD THE POSITIVITY.
BEFORE WE MOVE INTO OUR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, WE WANT TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING IN MEMORY OF CAROLYN ARNT.
CAROLYN ARNT WILL FOREVER BE REMEMBERED AS A DEDICATED AND CARING PERSON TO HER FAMILY, CHURCH, AND COMMUNITY.
AS A 66 YEAR RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA, CAROLYN HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH NUMEROUS VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES.
MOST NOTABLE WAS HER INFLUENCE STARTING THE FOOD BANK MOVEMENT IN 1980S, A PERSONAL PROJECT OF HERS WAS TO FORM A BELL CHOIR IN HER CHURCH.
SHE SERVED ON THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY BOARD DI OF DIRECTORS FOR CLOSE TO 20 YEARS IN RECOGNITION TO HER DEDICATION TO WEST COVINA.
SHE HAS BEEN CITIZEN OF THE YEAR ON TWO OCCASIONS, 1993 AND 2014.
WE WANNA THANK HER FOR HER WORK THAT SHE'S DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
VERY WELL KNOWN, VERY BEAUTIFUL PERSON.
AND, UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME WITH HER, AND, UM, SHE WAS A VERY KIND WOMAN.
[ORAL COMMUNICATIONS]
NOW WE'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO OUR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE FILL OUT YOUR YELLOWER SPEAKER CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE ASSISTANT CITY CLERK.
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WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR NAME BEING CALLED, PLEASE START LIVE LINING UP IN THE CENTER ROW.THE TIMER WILL START WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED TO SPEAK.
HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? I HAVE SIX SPEAKER CARDS.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS JOHN SHOEMAKER, FOLLOWED BY JILL DOLAN, FOLLOWED BY DR.
MR. SHOEMAKER, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE MAYOR'S PRAYER BREAKFAST.
I'M WONDERING WHO YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND FELLOWSHIP AND CONVERSATION.
WHO ALL HAS BEEN INVITED AS JAMIE ROCHA'S GROUP BEEN INVITED TO GIVE, UH, A PRAYER AND A BLESSING SINCE THEY WERE SO HIGHLY INSULTED BY THE MAYOR? IS THE MAYOR GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE CITY, SUCH AS I'M AN HISPANIC WOMAN, BUT I DON'T THINK LIKE THEM, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR SOME FORGIVENESS.
HOW ABOUT THAT? DREAMERS ARE COCKROACHES THAT BRINGS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, OR THE CONS NEEDS TO RECRUIT MORE YOUNG WHITE FAMILIES.
THAT'S THE WAY TO MAKE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WHITE, AT LEAST BY THAT PERSON'S DEFINITION.
WELCOME, DOESN'T IT? COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE RACIST PEOPLE OF COLOR LIKE JEFFSON, DERU WANNA BE WHITE.
AND PROBABLY THE MOST APPALLING, ALTHOUGH THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TO ONE OUTTA 10, THOSE ARE PROBABLY 9.9 WAS TO SAY THE SON OF A HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS WHO LOST 25 OF THEIR FAMILY ALMOST WIPED OUT THE ENTIRE FAMILY DURING WORLD WAR II SAYING, THAT PERSON WANTS TO BE WHITE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE? IT SOUNDS LIKE A GUY RUNNING AROUND WITH A FUNNY HAIRCUT AND A LITTLE MUSTACHE DURING THE TWENTIES, THIRTIES AND FORTIES, WHO JUSTIFIED WHAT HE DID AND HIS NATION DID TO PEOPLE WHO WERE JEWISH BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERED HUMAN.
THIS PERSON WHO LIVES WITH THE MARE SAYS THAT, OH, WELL, IF YOU'RE JEWISH, YOU'RE NOT WHITE.
ARE WE GONNA HAVE A JEWISH RABBI GIVING A PRAYER? SHOW YOU HOW APPALLING THAT IS.
AND THERE'S VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE HAD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY FACED.
AND YOU WILL FIND VICTOR ORE'S MOTHER AND FATHER TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY FACED, THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY FACED OVER THE YEARS.
THE MOTHER TO THIS DAY, I THINK SHE'S 90, 92 YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RECEIVES A PENSION FROM THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT SHE FACED WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER, YOU KNOW? BUT WHAT MAKES US EVEN WORSE? AND THE REASON THAT THAT FUNNY LITTLE GUY WITH THE MUSTACHE IN THE TWENTIES, THIRTIES AND FORTIES COULD DO IT, IS PEOPLE WHO WERE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS STOOD BY AND SAID, AND DID NOTHING.
THE OTHER FOUR OF YOU HAVE STOOD BY AND DONE OR SAID NOTHING.
YOU ARE AS MUCH AT FAULT FOR NOT SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS CONDUCT.
I WILL GIVE YOU WHO WERE ON THE CONSOLE THE NIGHT THAT I BROUGHT UP THE FACT HOW, OH, HE SAID, MY WIFE WAS IN HELL THAT WHEN SHE WAS LAUGHING, YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING AT HER LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING TO HER ABOUT HER CONDUCT, ABOUT HER CONDUCT THAT HAS BROUGHT DISREPUTE TO THE CITY.
SO HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE AND GO TO THIS PRAYER BREAKFAST? WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY WHEN THE ATTITUDE IS, IF YOU'RE JEWISH, YOU'RE NOT WHITE.
I SAID, SOUNDS LIKE THE LITTLE GUY FROM, UH, GERMANY, ACTUALLY, HE WAS FROM AUSTRIA FROM IN THE TWENTIES, THIRTIES AND FORTIES.
AND PEOPLE STOOD BY AND DIDN'T DO TOO TERRIBLY MUCH UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE.
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AND JUST ON A LITTLE SIDE NOTE ON SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, IS THERE GONNA BE A DISCUSSION? IS CALLING OUR CITY TREASURE A FAT BOVINE THAT SURE MAKES PEOPLE FEEL WELCOME, DOESN'T IT? OR HOW ABOUT ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO REFERS TO HER AS A FAT LEATHER FACED HAG? AND SHE SITS THERE QUIET AND DOESN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT IT.AND, OH, WHEN THE, UH, UH, JAMIE ROCHA'S GROUP WAS HERE, FALSE CLAIMS THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE VIOLENT, SO WE NEED MORE POLICE HERE.
MARTHA GARCIA, FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW SMITH.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS FROM MOUNT SAC.
UH, WE'LL BE WELCOMING BACK STUDENTS, THE MOUNT SAC CAMPUS ON AUGUST 28TH.
AND AS OF LAST MONTH, OUR FALL CREDIT HEADCOUNT IS ABOUT 20,000, AND THAT'S UP 500 FROM THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR.
IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING, UH, STUDENT ENROLLMENT IN CREDIT CLASSES IS APPROXIMATELY 55% FACE-TO-FACE.
AND IN SPRING 2023, NEARLY 2,900 OF OUR STUDENTS INDICATED THAT THEY WERE WEST COVINA RESIDENTS.
AFTER POMONA AND LA PUENTE, WEST COVINA SENDS THE MOST STUDENTS TO MOUNT SAC, UH, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF INDUSTRY PARTNERS TO COMBAT WILDLIFE FIRES IN THE REGION.
AND STATEWIDE, MOUNT SAC HAS CREATED A WILDLAND FIRE TECHNOLOGY CERTIFICATE AND DEGREE PROGRAM TO TRAIN AND CERTIFY WILDLY WILDLAND FIREFIGHTERS.
UM, THE COURSEWORK WILL BE STARTING THIS FALL AND WILL BE OFFERING THE FIRST WILDLAND FIRE ACADEMY IN WINTER SPRING 2024.
ENROLLING UP TO 40 STUDENTS IN THE ACADEMY TWICE ANNUALLY, OBVIOUSLY, UH, SEPARATE FROM THE MAUI FIRE, WE KNOW THAT WILDLAND FIRES ARE, UM, CONTINUING TO, UH, AFFECT CALIFORNIA.
SO THESE JOBS, UM, THE STUDENTS WILL HAVE JOBS UPON COMPLETING IT, AND THEY'LL BE MAKING GOOD MONEY.
UH, WE JUST RECEIVED NEWS RECENTLY THAT MOUNT SAC WAS NAMED A TOP COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR HISPANICS AND LATINOS FOR 2021.
ACCORDING TO THE HISPANIC OUTLOOK ON EDUCATION MAGAZINE, MOUNT SAC WAS NUMBER FIVE IN TERMS OF ASSOCIATE DEGREES GRANTED TO HISPANICS AND LATINOS.
AND IN THAT YEAR, THAT TIME PERIOD, WE AWARDED 2,569 DEGREES, REPRESENTING ABOUT 65% OF ALL DEGREES.
GRANTED, THAT YEAR, WE ALSO MADE THE TOP FIVE LIST NUMBER FOUR FOR THE NUMBER OF HISPANIC LATINO STUDENTS WE ENROLLED IN FALL 2021.
DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, M SAC ENROLLED 16,409 HISPANIC OR LATINO STUDENTS, OR ABOUT 64% OF OUR TOLL ENROLLMENT.
AND FOR 20 22 23, OUR NUMBERS RE UH, REMAIN ABOUT THE SAME.
AND LASTLY, UH, M SAC COLLEGE WILL JOIN MORE THAN 60 OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES ACROSS THE STATE IN BECOMING A FRESH AIR CAMPUS WHEN THE FALL SEMESTER STARTS IN A FEW WEEKS.
THAT MEANS THE USE OF ANY FORM OF TOBACCO, INCLUDING VAPING AND SMOK DEVICES, IS PROHIBITED ON ALL COLLEGE PROPERTIES, GROUNDS AND BUILDINGS, INCLUDING PARKING LOTS.
AND, UH, 65 OUT OF THE 116 CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT SMOKE AND TOBACCO FREE, INCLUDING E E-CIGARETTES.
AND OF COURSE, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE JOINING THAT LIST.
WILLIAM SCROGGINS RETIRED AT THE END OF THE, UH, COUNT THE ACADEMIC YEAR.
AND SO TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW PRESIDENT, DR.
MARTHA GARCIA, FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW SMITH, FOLLOWED BY BILL ELLIOT.
MAR GARCIA, AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS THE PRE THE NEW PRESIDENT FOR MOUNT SAC.
JOINING ME THIS EVENING ARE, UH, TWO OUT THE THREE TRUSTEES THAT SERVE, UH, UH, THIS CITY, UH, TRUSTEE LAURA SANTOS, TRUSTEE ROBERT IVAL.
AND, UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE TRUSTEE THAT WAS NOT ABLE TO JOIN US, AND THAT'S TRUSTEE GARY CHOW.
I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
SECONDLY, INTRODUCE MYSELF AND COMMUNICATE THE COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE AT MOUNT SAC TO WORK WITH YOU AND BUILD BRIDGES THAT ULTIMATELY WILL, UH, CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO DO EDUCATION FOR THE STUDENTS OF THE CITY.
SO I LOOK FORWARD, UH, TO GETTING TO KNOW YOU AND COLLABORATING WITH YOU.
AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THE PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED TO ENGAGE YOUTH AND, UH, COLLEGE STUDENTS.
SO, UH, IT'S A PLEASURE AND I LOOK FORWARD, LIKE STATED TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.
FIRST THING I WANNA SAY, WELCOME.
SECOND THING, CAN I HAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION? SO WE, IF WE NEED SOMETHING, WE CAN CONTACT YOU AND WE CAN DIRECTLY TO COMMUNICATE, HOPEFULLY
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HELP OUR RESIDENT TRY TO ENROLL OR SOME ISSUE.OKAY? AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH
AND WE ARE VERY PROUD TO HAVE YOU SINCE WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR RESIDENT OKAY.
ENROLL, INCLUDING MY STAFF, ONE OF IN YOUR SCHOOL.
SO HOPEFULLY, OKAY, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER CLOSELY.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN PROVIDE US THE CONTENT INFORMATION.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WELCOME.
AND I JUST WANNA, LAST STATEMENT I WANNA SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU.
I'M A PROUD COMMUNITY COLLEGE GRADUATE, AND I WOULD NOT BE HERE STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, IN THIS ROLE IF IT WASN'T FOR A COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
MATTHEW SMITH, FOLLOWED BY BILL ELLIOT, FOLLOWED BY DAVID SCHWARTZ, A GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL.
UH, WE'LL START OFF WITH SOFTBALL, UH, NEWS OR UPDATE, UM, SENIOR SOFTBALL'S HAVING A TWO WEEK BOOK DRIVE DONATION FOR THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE YOUTH CENTER.
UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH ROXANNE AND VANESSA ON THAT.
IT SEEMED LIKE THE BOOKS WERE A LITTLE BIT LOW FOR THE CHECKOUTS OF BOTH CENTERS.
SO, UH, SENIOR SOFTBALL'S RUNNING A TWO WEEK BOOK DONATION.
UM, I CAN'T LIE, WE'RE BASEBALL GUYS.
THERE'S A LOT OF BASEBALL BOOKS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING OUR WAY.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOME FANS OUT THERE.
BUT, UH, WE, WE WILL BE DONATING IN TWO WEEKS TO, UH, BOTH CENTERS.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT FOR, UM, BUSINESS.
I WANNA THANK THE CITY FOR HOSTING THE CONCERTS OF THE PARK SIX NIGHTS.
UM, IT WAS VERY WELL ORGANIZED.
I WANTED TO, TO THANK VANESSA FOR PUTTING THAT, UM, EXCUSE ME.
I WANNA THING, UH, VANESSA AND ROXANNE FOR PUTTING THAT ON.
UM, IT, IT WAS DONE EXTREMELY WELL.
AND I KNOW ROXANNE'S STAFF WAS THERE ALWAYS ON TIME, EARLY DOING BALLOONS.
OUR TABLES WERE SET UP, HOTSPOTS WERE THERE.
AND, UM, THE ORGANIZATION FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT WAS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
ALL SIX NIGHTS, UH, IT, IT WAS DONE EXTREMELY WELL.
AND WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME REFERRALS IN REGARDS TO, UM, THOSE EVENTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY SAW AS A CONCERT IN THE PARK, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED TO US, HEY, WE SAW A CONCERT IN THE PARK.
WE LIKE THAT MENU, AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO DO FURTHER EVENTS.
IT'S NOT THE EASIEST THING TO DO.
I SAW OPEN UP SIX NIGHTS AND, YOU KNOW, SIX NIGHTS FOR SIX WEEKS.
UH, I DO WANNA INFORM YOU THAT I DID GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING, UM, OUTDOOR EATING.
AND I READ AN ARTICLE IN THE TRIBUNE REGARDING, UM, LA CITY COUNCIL.
PLANNING COMMISSION IS COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR VOTE, FOR APPROVAL FOR OUTDOOR EATING AND DINING.
UM, THEY HAVE A PERMIT, IT'S A POTENTIAL PERMIT PROGRAM.
UM, THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR ORDINANCE THAT THEY PLAN TO GIVE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TO AGENDIZE TO APPROVE THAT WOULD EXTEND OUTDOOR EATING THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN FROM THERE, POTENTIALLY DO PERMITS, ET CETERA, AND CHANGE THE ORDINANCES.
SO I'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ARTICLES, AND TWO FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, I ALSO HAVE A SUMMARY OF AB OF ASSEMBLY BILL 61 AND A, UH, ASSEMBLY BILL FOR LEGAL.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF WRITING IN THIS.
I'M GONNA READ YOU SECTION TWO.
IT STATES THE PLANNING AND ZONING LAW AUTHORITIES, THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF ANY CITY OR COUNTY TO ADAPT ORDINANCES THAT REGULATE ZONING WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION AS SPECIFIED UNDER LAW VARIANCES AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS MAY BE GRANTED IF PROVIDED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO THE STATE'S GIVEN AUTHORITY TO DO THIS.
UM, IT WOULD TAKE A VOTE BY YOU TO APPROVE IT, TO GIVE THAT EXTENSION TO DECEMBER 31ST.
MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SPEAK AGAINST IT.
SO, UM, I WOULD GREATLY, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST THAT WE CONTINUE WORKING ON THIS.
UM, PAUL NEEDED TO SAY AT THE LAST MEETING, AND I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR THIS, FOR THIS, THAT THERE IS A PLAN BEING WORKED ON BY THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
AND IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE NEEDED FROM ME OR OTHER OWNERS, WE COULD CERTAINLY, UM, HELP WITH THAT.
BUT I, I GREATLY ENCOURAGE THROUGH THE PLANNING OR THROUGH AN AGENDIZED ITEM BY THE FIVE OF YOU THAT, UM, THIS BE APPROVED AND, UH, EXTENDED.
'CAUSE IT CERTAINLY SEEMS LEGALLY IT CAN BE DONE.
UM, BUT IT WOULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, BOARD APPROVAL.
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I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.UM, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TONIGHT.
HERE IS A SUMMARY OF AB 61 FOR LEGAL, AND AS ALWAYS, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND, AND I'M, I'M GLAD.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE DO TO HELP WITH THE PROCESS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, UH, WITHOUT YOU GUYS' HELP AND ASSISTANCE, WE WOULD'VE HAD A REALLY TOUGH TIME DURING COVID AND THAT THAT WAS HUGE.
THAT'S, THAT'S 50 SEATS OUTDOORS.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO, UM, HELP EACH OTHER IN REGARDS TO THIS.
BILL ELLIOT, FOLLOWED BY DAVID SCHWARTZ.
SCHWARTZ, FOLLOWED BY GLEN KENNEDY.
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, COUNCILMAN CONTOS OF THE FORCE OF THE DISTRICT.
COUNCILMAN WU FROM THE FIFTH DISTRICT, THE MAYOR, REPRESENTING THE THIRD DISTRICT IN THE WHOLE CITY.
COUNCILWOMAN LET LOPEZ, AND LAST BUT ABSOLUTELY LEAST IS LION.
I NEVER SAW ANYBODY TRY TO TURN A IRANIAN LAST NAME INTO AN
UH, IT'S VERY CLEVER, VERY CREATIVE.
UH, BUT YOU CONTINUE TO BE THE MASTER OF DISASTER IN THIS CITY.
UH, THERE'S NOT A DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT IF A LITTLE BOY CAME TO YOU IN YOUR CLASS, THAT YOU'D PUT A SKIRT ON HIM AND SLAP SOME LIPSTICK ON HIS FACE AND CHOP OFF HIS WIENER WITHOUT HIS PARENTS KNOWING ABOUT IT, WOULDN'T YOU? ON THAT NOTE, I WANNA TRANSITION TO SOMETHING ABOUT CAROLYN.
CAROLYN ARN WAS A REALLY REMARKABLE PERSON.
I DIDN'T KNOW HER VERY WELL, BUT I GOT A CHANCE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH HER.
AND SHE TOLD MY WIFE AND I THE STORY OF HOW SHE BECAME A, A FLIGHT ATTENDANT.
AND NOT WHEN SHE WAS 20 EITHER, OR 30 OR 40, OR 50 OR 60, I BELIEVE SHE BECAME A FLIGHT ATTENDANT IN HER SEVENTIES.
AND SHE HAD A LONG CAREER, AND SHE WAS A REMARKABLE PERSON.
CAROLYN WAS A BRIDGE, NOT A ROADBLOCK.
CAROLYN WAS A REALLY GRACIOUS PERSON WHO I DIDN'T ALWAYS SEE EYE TO EYE WITH, BUT WE ALWAYS SAW EACH OTHER HEART TO HEART.
UH, SOME THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA THIS WEEK ABOUT HER TRIBUTES AND WHATNOT.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST SO FUNNY THAT PEOPLE, A CLAWS COME OUT, EVEN WHEN SOMEONE DIES, THE CLAWS COME OUT AND SNIDE REMARKS ARE MADE ABOUT JUST EVERYTHING THAT, EXCEPT WHAT SHOULD BE SAID.
UH, SO GOD BLESS THE MEMORY OF CAROLYN, AREN'T THERE AREN'T MANY LIKE HER.
THE PE THE PEOPLE AT WEST COVINA, IF YOU COULD STAND, CAROLYN AREN'T UP AGAINST ANYONE IN WEST COVINA.
SHE'S PROBABLY IN THE TOP 10 CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.
SHE, I DON'T EVEN THINK SHE WEIGHED A HUNDRED POUNDS, BUT SHE CAST A LONG SHADOW IN THIS CITY, AND SHE WILL BE GREATLY MISSED.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT I ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE CONCERT IN THE PARK OR IN THE CIVIC CENTER.
AND WOW, THOSE BANDS THIS YEAR REALLY WERE IMPRESSIVE.
UM, SOME MORE THAN OTHERS, BUT THERE WERE, I MEAN, WHEN WE HEARD COLD DUCK PLAY, WE WERE LIKE, WOW, THEY'RE SO GOOD.
AND THEN THE VERY NEXT BAND WAS EVEN BETTER.
AND THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT, THAT BRUNO MARS TRIBUTE BAND WAS FABULOUS.
HE HAD THE LOOK, HE HAD THE MOVES, HE HAD THE SOUND, HE HAD THE VOICE.
THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE FOR THE, UH, BRUNO MARS TRIBUTE BAND THAN THERE WERE FOR COLD DUCK.
AND JUST WHEN I THOUGHT THAT COULDN'T BE TOPPED, FORGIVE ME, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE GROUP, BUT STONE SOUL STONES HOLE.
WOW, I HOPE WE CAN HAVE THEM BACK.
UH, WHEN THE LEAD SINGER GOT UP ON STAGE, I SAID, THIS IS THE GUY.
AND HE SOUNDED JUST LIKE THE RECORDING OF EVERY RECORD HE COVERED THAT NIGHT.
AND I REALLY ENJOYED, UM, ATTENDING THE CONCERTS.
AND THE DEPARTMENT WAS SO HAPPY WE HAVE THAT HERE IN WEST COVINA.
IT'S A GREAT THING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER.
YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU MAKE NEW
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FRIENDS.IT'S A REALLY, UH, GREAT EVENT.
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE STATE OF THE CITY, UM, UP AT THE SPORTS PLEX THIS YEAR.
I WENT LAST YEAR AND WOW, WHAT AN EVENT.
AND IT'S GONNA BE EVEN BETTER THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, WHEN THE COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER LIKE THAT IN, IN SOMETHING, UH, THAT IS PROMOTING THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S LAUDING THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S ACKNOWLEDGING THE COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR POLICE, AND OUR FIRE, THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT TO THIS CITY.
WEST COVINA WOULD BE A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE CREW OF THIS CITY AND THE STAFF.
DAVID SCHWARTZ, FOLLOWED BY GLEN KENNEDY.
IT'S BEEN A QUITE A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN UP TO THE PODIUM HERE.
UH, MADAM MAYOR, UH, MAYOR PRO, TEMP COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN.
I HOPE YOU'RE, UH, RECOVERING WELL.
UH, WHAT I HAVE TODAY IS JUST A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED AROUND OUR CITY.
I, I FEEL LIKE, ESPECIALLY MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS YOUR DISTRICT, THE MAYORS THAT, UH, THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE, THEN THEY'RE GETTING BETTER.
UH, GOOD EXAMPLES ARE AT THE GLENDORA PLAZA, WHERE IT'S AT GLENDORA AND VINCENT AVENUE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THE WINDOWS ARE GETTING BROKEN OUT.
THEY HAVE WOOD UP AGAINST THE, THE BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE'S TRASH AND THE HOMELESS ARE MAKING CAMP.
THERE IT IS GETTING WORSE AND NOT BETTER THE OTHER, UM, ANOTHER PLACE IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST COVINA PARKWAY IN VINCENT, THE NUMBER TWO LANE GOING WEST.
THE LANE IS DETERIORATING AND IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, REPAIRED.
IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT EVEN BEFORE THE RAINS.
WHEN THE RAINS CAME, IT GOT WORSE.
AND RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S SUCH A MAJOR INTERSECTION IN THIS CITY, AND IT'S IN TERRIBLE CONDITION.
UM, ALSO YESTERDAY I WENT TO THE CREDIT UNION RIGHT OVER THERE BY, UM, THE WEST COVINA FASHION PLAZA
FIRST OF ALL, I SEE THAT THE PARKING LOT THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE, TO THE POST OFFICE.
LOOKS LIKE THE NIGHT BEFORE CARS WERE DOING THEIR CIRCLES AROUND IN THE PARKING LOT.
AND I FOUND DOZENS OF, UH, OF EMPTY BEER CANS IN THE PARKING LOT THERE.
NOW, I HEARD THE CAR FROM MY HOUSE THE NIGHT BEFORE, AND WE GOTTA PUT A STOP TO THAT BEFORE IT GETS WORSE, BECAUSE I HEAR THESE CARS NOW CONSTANTLY.
NOW, I HAPPEN TO BE IN A TWO STORY HOUSE, SO I CAN HEAR ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE METROLINK.
SO THAT PART IN, AT THE WEST COVINA PLAZA NEXT TO THE POST OFFICE.
NOW, NOT ONLY DID I SEE THE CAR TRACKS AND THE BEER BOTTLES, THE BIGGEST THING THAT I SAW WAS THIS WOMAN THAT WAS WEARING A COAT JUST UP TO HER HIP AND NOTHING ELSE.
AND HER BREASTS WERE HANGING OUT OF THE COAT, AND SHE WAS MIDDLING AROUND THE CREDIT UNION.
AND AS I WALKED AWAY, SHE STARTED, UH, SHE STARTED TO, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD I WANNA USE, TAMPERING WITH THE A T M.
NOW, I KNOW THERE WAS A SECURITY GUARD OUT THERE BECAUSE I SAW HIM IN HIS CAR STANDING UP LOOKING AT THE CREDIT UNION, AND THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO THOSE ARE MY MAIN CONCERNS RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, UM, SO SINCE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT MR. UH SHOEMAKER SAID MY BACKGROUND IS, I'M THE SON OF A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR.
MY FATHER WAS BORN IN POLAND IN A CITY CALLED ZAIST.
AND HE HAD SEVEN SIBLINGS AND A MOTHER AND FATHER.
THEY ALL WERE MURDERED, UH, UH, IN THE WAR.
MY FATHER WAS THE ONLY SURVIVOR BECAUSE HE ESCAPED AND LEFT HIS FAMILY.
HE HAD NUMBERS TATTOOED ON HIS ARM.
SOMEHOW HE MADE IT AND HE MADE IT TO AMERICA.
HE BECAME A CITIZEN OF AMERICA.
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SO I'M VERY, UM, UH, LEARNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.I DON'T WANNA SEE ANY OF MY COUNCILMEN OR WOMEN USING, UH, UM, ANTI-SEMITIC WORDS HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING IT OR WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR US AS A CITY.
WE GOTTA STOP TEASING EVERYBODY.
AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I'M SORRY IF I EVER DISRESPECTED YOU, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GET ALONG ON POLITICS.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE EVER SAID CALLED YOU STUPID OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE NEED GLEN KENNEDY, FOLLOWED BY R ROBINSON, FOLLOWED BY JD.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL GLEN KENNEDY, UH, REPRESENTING THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY TONIGHT.
UH, LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UH, THIS SATURDAY, AUGUST 19TH, SIX O'CLOCK, UH, IS SUMMER FEST.
SO TICKETS ARE STILL AVAILABLE.
UH, WE'RE HAVING A BEAUTIFUL HISTORICAL HIRSH RANCH.
NOW, CAN I GIVE THE PHONE NUMBERS OUT? I GIVE THE PHONE, UH, SIX TWO SIX SIX SIX FOUR THIRTY FIFTY SIX TWO SIX SIX SIX FOUR THIRTY FIFTY.
AND, UH, I HAD ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO SAY, MADAM MAYOR.
SO, UM, WHEN WE DID THE, UH, THE VETERANS MEMORIAL OUT HERE, I DID ALL THE RESEARCH.
AND, UH, WE KNEW WHEN WE DID THE WORLD WAR II VETERANS THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE I WAS TOLD, UH, THERE WAS SIX.
AND I, UH, WHO WILL I, CAN I CONTACT? UH, 'CAUSE THEIR NAMES NEED TO BE PUT ON THE, ON THE WALL, AND THEY NEED TO BE HONORED.
FIRST GUY IS, UH, WILLIAM LANG.
THE LANG'S, UH, OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FREEWAY, NORTH ORANGE AND GARVEY.
SO THEIR PROPERTY WENT FROM ORANGE, PROBABLY DOWN TO WORKMAN AND PROBABLY TO, TO CONLAND.
OKAY? AND HE WAS ON THE U S S SSN, AND IT WENT DOWN THE LUZON STRAITS.
UM, THE OTHER GENTLEMAN IS, UH, UM, HOLBERT CUSHMAN JR.
UH, THEY LIVED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF RK, ALLEN AND PUENTE, AND HE WAS KILLED IN PELU.
UH, HE IS THE UNITED STATES MARINE.
AND, UM, SEE, THE PROBLEM WAS WHEN YOU RESEARCH THESE PEOPLE, IT DOES NOT COME UP WEST COVINA.
LIKE, LIKE, UH, MR. LANG CAME UP, COVINA.
NOW THE, UH, CUSHMAN CAME UP EL MONTE
SO WHEN YOU GO, IT SAYS HIS ADDRESS, BUT IT SAYS THE TOWNSHIP OF EL MONTE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT SAYS.
IT'S MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THESE PEOPLE.
ANYHOW, UH, WE NEED TO PUT THEIR NAMES ON THE WALL.
BILL ROBINSON, FOLLOWED BY JD MOUNT SACK DOESN'T TEACH, UH, SYNTHETIC BIOLOGY OR AI DRIVEN TRANSHUMANISM.
AND I'M, UH, I'M, TONIGHT, I'M, I'M GONNA BE CONCERNED WITH FIFTH GENERATION WARFARE.
UH, WE NEED TO KEEP FIGHTING FOR MEDICAL FREEDOM, UH, RECOGNIZE PERVASIVE SURVEILLANCE THAT SURROUNDS US.
UM, MAUI IS LOOKING LIKE LEXINGTON AND CONCORD TO ME, ANOTHER EAST PALESTINE, OHIO, UH, TRAIN DERAILMENT, INCLUDING COMPLETE GOVERNMENT RESPONSE INCOMPETENCE.
AGAIN, UH, MESSENGER, R N A GENE EDITING SHOTS, UH, MAY BE ALTERING HUMAN.
G N A, UH, SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN MAGAZINE IN DECEMBER, 2019, REPORTED THAT A CHINESE COURT SENTENCED AND JAILED FOR THREE YEARS, A CHINESE SCIENTIST FOR ILLEGAL MEDICAL PRACTICE FOR EDITING EMBRYOS, D N A.
LIKEWISE, WE NEED TO STOP EXTERMINATING OR EXPERIMENTING AND EXTERMINATING OUR OWN CHILDREN BECAUSE, UH, THE, THE SHAM EMERGENCY HAS ENDED.
UH, MESSENGER, R N A GENE NANOPARTICLE EDITING, UH, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, UH, PARASITES, UH, UH, SELF ASSEMBLING ELECTROMAGNETIC DEVICES THAT WERE SH
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SHOT UP WITH THEIR MEDICAL DEVICES.ACCORDING TO, UH, KAREN KINGSTON, UH, WE NEED TO REDISCOVER PRODUCT LIABILITY.
UH, IN 1986, THE INDU, UH, THE INDUSTRY BILL, UH, LIABILITY WAIVER HIGHLIGHTS, UH, THE PROBLEM OF, UH, OF LACK OF GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT.
ALL THE THREE LED UH, LETTER AGENCIES ARE HAULED OUT.
UH, LOBBYISTS, UH, NEED TO INCLUDE, UH, NEEDED TO INCLUDE LIABILITY, UH, WAIVERS FOR THE PHARMA INDUSTRY.
UM, UH, BUT, BUT THIS, UH, BUT THIS LIABILITY WAIVERS FOR VACCINES DOESN'T INCLUDE BIO WEAPONS.
ACCORDING TO RESEARCHER KAREN KINGSTON, UH, SHE SAYS, UH, SHERIFFS NEED TO BE, BE SEIZING THE, THE BIO WEAPONS.
NOW THE PATENTS SHOW THAT THE NANOTECHNOLOGY IS EMBEDDED IN EVERYDAY PRODUCTS, AND EVERY SINGLE HUMAN HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO THESE COMMON PRODUCTS.
OUR CURRENT, UH, FOCUS SHOULD BE ON THREE POINTS.
ONE, UH, SPIKE PROTEIN CONTAMINATION EXISTS IN THE PUBLIC BLOOD SUPPLY.
AND TWO, UH, PROVIDE HELP FOR, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INJURED.
THREE, BETTER STUDY THE RECENT SURGE IN TURBO CANCERS AND AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WITH NO PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.
UH, POTENTIALLY THERE IS A CANCER TUMOR, D N A SEQUENCE THAT, UH, COULD BE INSERTED THAT CAUSES THE, UH, TUMORS, UH, THE TUMORS, UH, THE, THE VAX MAY BE, MAY HAVE LOWERED, UH, WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNTS, THAT'S IMMUNE.
I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, HOW, UH, UH, THE VAX, UH, SCREWS UP OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS. UH, THIS, UH, UH, ANYWAY, ALL, ALL OF OUR, UH, OUR BABIES SHOULD BE, UH, SHIELDED FROM, UH, RECEIVING THE BACK, UH, VAX, UH, UH, LIBERTY, LIFE AND HAPPINESS.
UH, DON'T HAVE TO BE CURTAIL, UH, CURTAILED BY FIFTH GENERATION WARFARE.
THE TRAP BEING SET BY THE WHO INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING COMMUNIST AGENDA.
AND I'LL RECITE A 20 POINT LIST OF POSSIBILITIES.
ONE, IMPLEMENT VACCINE PASSPORTS, WHICH EX EXCLUDES PEOPLE FROM SOCIETY IF THEY DON'T CONTINUALLY TAKE EXPERIMENTAL, UH, BIO WEAPON BOOSTER INJECTIONS TO IMP IMPLEMENT, UH, SOCIAL REWARDING AND MANDATORY DIGITAL ID.
UH, CLOSE TO A A CHINESE STYLE SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM, UH, THAT GIVES BROWNIE POINTS WHEN PEOPLE COMPLY WITH OFFICIAL MANDATES AND REMOVE RIGHTS WHEN PEOPLE RESIST, UH, TYRANNY IS EASIER IN A URBAN SETTING.
MOVE MOST OF HUMANITY INTO SMART CITY.
JD, YOU'RE, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF ME REAL QUICK.
YEAH, BUT WE, WE GAVE YOU FIVE MINUTES.
DO YOU WANT DO THAT? 17 POINTS? NOT TOO MUCH.
YOU DO MUCH, ROB, YOU'RE GETTING SHORTER TOO.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? YOU CALLED ME, DIDN'T YOU? I DID CALL YOU, SIR.
THE CITY REQUIRES THAT I BRING OUT MY TRASH CAN AND TAKE IT IN ON A SCHEDULE.
AND I'VE SEEN RESIDENTS COME HERE.
I THINK IT WAS AN ELDERLY PERSON THAT WAS GIVEN A CITATION.
'CAUSE EITHER THEY LEFT OUT THE TRASHCAN OR BROUGHT IT OUT TOO EARLY.
I THINK YOU, YOU COMMENTED ON THAT, UH, PARTICULAR CASE, MR. WU.
AND I'VE GOT A TRASH CAN CITY, TRASH CAN NEXT TO MY HOUSE.
AND I'VE SEEN TRASH CANS AT THE DOWNTOWN WEST COVINA OVERFLOWING WITH TRASH MINE'S ADJACENT TO MY PORCH.
FACT CAME DOWN HERE, AND ROXANNA, SHE HELPED ME WITH IT.
BUT THAT WAS OVER A MONTH AGO, AND IT HASN'T BEEN EMPTIED.
SO I DON'T TAKE UP MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
DOES ATHENS PICK UP THESE PUBLIC TRASH CANS AT ALL? THESE BUS STOPS WEEKLY, BI-WEEKLY, MONTHLY.
WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE OF PICKUP?
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'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, SCHOOL'S OUT, BUT WHEN SCHOOL IS ACTIVE, THOSE TRASH CANS OVERFLOW WITH TRASH.I'VE COME TO THE DETERMINATION.
I'M JUST GONNA BLOW IT OUT INTO THE STREET.
I'M NOT GONNA PICK IT UP NO MORE.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THE CITY'S GONNA HOLD THE RESIDENTS TO THAT LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY, IT TOO SHALL LIVE UP TO IT.
ARE THESE TRASH CANS BY THE BUS STOP OR ARE THEY STANDALONE TRASH CANS? WHERE ARE THESE TRASH CANS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE ONE THAT AFFECTS ME DIRECTLY IS ADJACENT TO MY PORCH, FRONT PORCH NEXT TO THE BUS STOP.
UM, BUT YES, SO IT, IT'S CLOSE TO MY PROPERTY, BUT I, I HAVE PLENTY OF PICTURES OF YOU NEED CARE TO SEE OF TRASH CANS OVERFLOWING.
MY CONCERN TONIGHT IS, IS ATHENS RESPONSIBLE FOR PICKING THESE TRASH CANS UP WEEKLY AS THEY DO FOR US RESIDENTS? I APPRECIATE AN ANSWER FROM THAT.
MAYOR, ACTING CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU PLEASE RESPOND? UM, SHERIFF, GOOD EVENING.
UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, SO I WANTED TO, UM, THANK JILL, UH, DOLAN AND MARTHA, UH, GARCIA FROM MOUNT SAC FOR COMING AND DOING THE PRESENTATION.
WE ALWAYS, UH, VALUE, UH, ESTABLISHING PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORING, UH, SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS AND HOPEFULLY PARTNERING IN SOME PROJECTS OR PROGRAMS. UM, MATTHEW SMITH, UH, CAME IN AND SPOKE ABOUT THE POSITIVE, UM, AND I THINK SEVERAL SPEAKERS ABOUT THE WONDERFUL SUMMER CONCERT SERIES THAT WE HAD THE SUMMER.
SO WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT WE HAD RESIDENTS ATTEND AND THAT THEY'VE COME UP AND SHARED THAT THEY HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE BOTH ON THE BUSINESS SIDE AND AS, UH, RESIDENTS.
UM, AS MENTIONED, UH, BEFORE THE OUTDOOR DINING, THE CITY IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON, UM, FACILITATING THE PROCESS TO MAKE THAT EASIER FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO GET THOSE OUTDOOR DINING SPACES.
UM, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE, WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THOSE BUSINESS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
UM, UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS, UH, THAT BRUNO MARS, UH, WAS A VERY WELL ATTENDED EVENT.
UM, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THEY WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY FOR THE MOON FESTIVAL THAT WE'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT.
SO IF YOU ARE A FAN OF THE BRUNO MARS, UH, BAND, THEY'RE COMING BACK TO WEST COVINA.
UM, AND THEN SOMEONE, SOLAR THUNDER.
WE ARE GONNA BE DOING STAY OF THE CITY, AND I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT SHORTLY.
UM, IN REGARDS TO, UM, GRAFFITI AND, UM, SOME ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS, UM, TO USE OUR, UH, REPORTING APP.
UM, IT HELPS US GEOCODE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE.
UM, AND IF IT'S GRAFFITI, THEN WE WORK WITH, IF IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY, WE WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO RESOLVE THAT.
IF IT'S ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, WE LOOK TO ADDRESS IT THROUGH, UM, OUR STAFFING.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE MALL, UM, PARKING LOT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE PLAZA WEST COVINA, THEY ARE MAINTAIN AND, UM, PATROL THOSE, THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT.
UM, IN REGARDS TO, YES, THERE'S A HISTORICAL SOCIETY EVENT THIS SATURDAY, AND WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO GO.
UM, THE MAYOR'S PRAYER BREAKFAST IS COMING UP, AND I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT DURING THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.
UM, AND WE WILL LOOK INTO, UH, WE WILL GET BACK TO JD ON, UM, THE TRASH CAN ISSUE.
THE BUS STOP, I THINK WE CONTRARY OUT TO THE NON-PROFIT GROUP.
AND THEY'VE CLEANED THE BUS STOP.
I SAW THEM SOMETIMES, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FREQUENT.
SO MAYBE, UH, SOME OF YOU CAN ANSWER.
I THINK THEY, THEY CLEAN UP ONCE A WEEK OR, OKAY.
BUT I, THIS OKAY, SO THEM, OKAY.
IT'S NOT FROM A ETHAN, IT'S FROM OUR, THEY CLEAN THE BUS UP AND SOMETIMES THEY CLEAN THE SAME TIME TO CLEAN THE TRASH.
AND, UH, I KNOW, I, I THINK DURING MY PERIOD OF TIME OKAY.
WE APPROVE WITH THIS NONPROFIT GROUP.
AND, UH, WE, WE HIRED THEM TO US OKAY.
TO CLEAN THE, THE TRASH IN COMMUNITY.
NO, THE BUS STOP, SO, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S, IT'S ONCE A WEEK OR CAN WE IN INCREASING THE TIME? MAYBE THEY CAN OKAY.
DO THE CHAIR, IF I MAY, IF THAT
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IS, UM, WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER, WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING FORWARD SOME OPTIONS AND LOOK INTO JUST INCREASING THE EFFICIENCIES, UM, IN REGARDS TO THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACT.QUICKLY, I THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT UPDATE BUS UP, SO MAYBE WE CAN COMMINGLING OKAY.
KIND OF TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE NEXT AGENDA.
WE WILL BE BRINGING A STAFF REPORT REGARDING THE BUS STOPS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, IN SEPTEMBER.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS AS PART OF THAT.
'CAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, THE BUS STOPS ARE WITH THE TRASH CANS, SO.
UM, COUNCILMAN CON, JUST FOR, JUST FOR THE STAFF'S REFERENCE, I THINK THE ORGANIZATION IS VALLEY LIGHT INDUSTRIES TO HELP YOU FIND THE, YOU KNOW, WHO YOU SHOULD, UH, TALK TO.
UM, ALSO, CAN WE ADDRESS THE TWO, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED TO BE PLACED ON THE MEMORIAL? CAN WE OH, YES.
UM, IF MR. KENNEDY CAN PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION, UM, JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CONFIRM THE SPELLING, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
[CITY MANAGER'S REPORT]
CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE, UH, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT? SURE.UM, SO I KNOW THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED A LOT OF OUR, UM, SUMMER CONCERT OR THE, THE EVENTS THROUGHOUT, UH, THE CITY.
UM, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, SOME PROGRAMMING THAT'S HAPPENING AT PALM VIEW, UM, THAT WE RECENTLY OPENED UP THIS YEAR.
THEY HAD THEIR END OF SUMMER BARBECUE WITH THE SPECIAL APPEARANCE BY SPARKY.
SO ENGINE THREE WENT OUT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS PART OF THE, UH, END OF SUMMER BARBECUE WITH THE, UH, PARTICIPANTS OF THE PROGRAM.
UM, ANOTHER ONE IS THE SENIOR CENTER.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMMING THERE.
SOMETIMES WE DON'T NECESSARILY HIGHLIGHT IT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING GOING ON.
I THINK EVERY FRIDAY THEY HAVE ACTIVITIES, EVENTS.
UM, THIS LAST EVENT THEY DID, UH, THEY MADE COCKTAILS AND MOCKTAILS
SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
UM, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, YOU HAVE THIS FEE SCHEDULE UPDATE THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING.
AS PART OF THAT, WE WILL BE GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS.
SO WE'RE ENCOURAGING AND INVITING ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ATTEND, UM, ONE OF TWO WORKSHOPS.
THE FIRST ONE WILL BE MONDAY, UH, AUGUST 28TH AT 6:00 PM HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
THE SECOND COMMUNITY WORKSHOP WILL BE SEPTEMBER, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH AT 6:00 PM IN CAMERON COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO, UM, IT'S GONNA BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON, UH, OUR FEE SCHEDULES THAT, UM, IS GONNA BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL TONIGHT.
UM, AS SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN NOTICED WHEN YOU CAME TO THE MEETING TONIGHT, WE ARE RESURFACING OUR, UH, CITY HALL PARKING LOT.
UM, SO THE LAST ITEM THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS RES STRIPING, AND THAT SHOULD BE DONE BY SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UM, WE HAVE TWO LAST, UH, CLEANUP SATURDAYS WITH ATHENS.
THIS SATURDAY IS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THEIR TRASH PICKED UP ON THURSDAY, AND THE NEXT SATURDAY, AUGUST 26TH WILL BE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT GET THEIR TRASH PICKED UP ON FRIDAY.
UM, THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PICKED UP, SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU, YOU CAN GO ON OUR WEBSITE OR ON HERE.
AUTO PARTS CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, CONCRETE WASTE, UM, ELECTRONIC WASTE ROCKS, LOOSE TRASH OR HOUSEHOLD HAZARDS ARE NOT ITEMS THAT THEY'LL BE PICKED UP AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
UM, SO WE ARE HAVING OUR FIRST, UH, UH, MAYOR'S, UH, PRAYER BREAKFAST.
UM, IT IS NEXT THURSDAY, AUGUST 31ST, SEVEN 30, AND IT'S AT THE TAYLOR HOUSE AT THE HERITAGE PARK.
UM, ALL FAITHS WE'RE INVITED TO BE PART TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM OR IN THE EVENT, AND WE, EVERYONE IS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE, UM, OR TO ATTEND THE FIRST PRAYER BREAKFAST WITH THE CENTENNIAL MAYOR.
SO WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE.
UM, WE ARE HOSTING OUR STATE OF THE CITY AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION DINNER EVENT THIS YEAR.
IT WILL BE AT THE SPORTSPLEX AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH, UM, STARTING AT FIVE 30.
UM, SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND TICKET SALES WILL BE, UM, TICKETS WILL WILL BE ON SALE THIS WEEK.
SO WE HOPE TO SEE OUR RETICENCE, UM, AND OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UH, AT THE EVENT.
UM, ALSO JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
WE ARE PROGRAMMING, UM, THE SPORTSPLEX, SO THIS IS JUST A CALENDAR OF THE DIFFERENT LEAGUES, UM, THAT, UM, WE HAVE THAT ARE SCHEDULED AT THE, UM, FACILITY, UM, FROM MEN'S, UH, SOFTBALL, ADULT SOFTBALL LEAGUES TO PRACTICES.
AND THEN WE HAVE VARIOUS TOURNAMENTS COMING UP IN AUGUST AND IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, SO WE ARE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROGRAMMING THAT FACILITY.
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UM, AND THEN THIS IS JUST A LIST OF UPCOMING EVENTS.UM, SAN GABRIEL VALLEY SENIOR SOFTBALL BOOK DRIVE THE FILM AT WEST COVINA FESTIVAL THIS FRIDAY, UM, HERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER, STARTING AT 6:00 PM AS I MENTIONED, THE PRAYER BREAKFAST TE TRUCK, SEPTEMBER 23RD AT, UH, HERE AT CIVIC CENTER AS WELL.
UM, STATE OF THE CITY AT THE SPORTSPLEX, SEPTEMBER 28TH, THE MOON FESTIVAL, WHICH WILL BE SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, UM, ON GLENDORA AVENUE FROM 10:00 AM TO 9:00 PM UH, FEATURING BRUNO MARS.
AND THEN THE WEST COVINA QAS CAR TOBER FEST, UM, AUGUST 21ST.
SO JUST A COUPLE, UH, UPCOMING EVENTS AND THAT'S IT FOR ME.
UM, THE QUICK QUESTION WILL BE, OKAY, SINCE YOU MENTIONED EVERYBODY INVITED FOR THE MEAL BREAKFAST, SO TODAY HAVE A REGISTER SO WE KNOW THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, OTHERWISE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR BREAKFAST FOR PEOPLE TO SIT OR EAT, RIGHT? YEAH, WE ENCOURAGE, UM, IT'S A $25 DONATION, AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND TO PLEASE, UH, R S V P THROUGH THE EVENTBRITE LINK, AND THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THERE'S SUFFICIENT SEATING AND FOOD FOR EVERYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.
AND ALSO THE STATE OF THE CT, THE TICKET, HOW MUCH TICKET.
SO PEOPLE NEED TO REGISTER OKAY.
AND BUY THE TICKET TOO, RIGHT? YES.
SO THE TICKET SALES WILL BE GOING OUT THIS WEEK, AND IT'LL, UM, WE'LL BE DOING A SOCIAL MEDIA POST.
WE'LL BE PROMOTING THOSE TICKET SALES THIS WEEK.
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LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR.DOES ANYONE WANNA PULL ANYONE, ANY ITEM FROM ONE TO FIVE? UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE, WHAT THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER TWO? SO, MOVE SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WU, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CONTOS TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER TWO.
BEFORE I TAKE ROLE, I JUST WANNA READ THE TITLE OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE ADOPTING, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 5 1 6, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COLINA, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING AN AMENDED MILITARY EQUIPMENT POLICY GOVERNING THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT PURSUANT TO ASSEMBLY.
[2) CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED APPOINTMENT OF ACTING HUMAN RESOURCES AND RISK MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR]
UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.UH, I, I JUST HAVE A, A, A, A CONCERN, UM, WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE, UM, GONNA BE HAVING OUR, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR ALSO ACTING AS THE, UH, ACTING HUMAN RESOURCES.
UM, AND I, I, I JUST WANNA KNOW, UM, DO WE HAVE A, A, A TIMELINE FOR FULFILLING THIS POSITION? JUST BECAUSE THE, ESPECIALLY THE HR POSITION, UH, IS, IS SO IMPORTANT TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY COMPLAINTS THAT THAT, THAT ARE MADE ARE, UH, TAKEN CARE OF DUE PROCESSES GIVEN, AND THAT WAY THE CITY CAN, UH, KEEP ITSELF PROTECTED FROM ANY LIABILITY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, SHE, SHE DOES A LOT OF GREAT WORK.
AND SO AS YOU START TO SPREAD PEOPLE THIN, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE CONCERN IS.
SO, I, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW, HOW IS THE, THE SEARCH AND, UH, IT, DO WE HAVE A, A TIMELINE? THANK YOU.
SO, UM, WE ARE AWARE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE ARE STRETCHING STAFF THIN.
UM, IN THE PAST WE HAVE HAD, UH, THROUGHOUT WEST VENUS HISTORY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE HAD A DIRECTOR THAT'S, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR AND HR DIRECTOR, UM, OR TWO DIRECTORS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE, UM, OUR FORMER DIRECTOR LEFT THERE IS A VACANCY THAT NEEDED TO BE FILLED.
AND SO SHE IS, UM, STEPPING UP AND ASSISTING US AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THERE'S SOMEONE IN CHARGE OF THAT DEPARTMENT IN THE INTERIM, UM, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH RECRUITMENT FOR THE POSITION.
UM, AND SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS, UH, OR SOME NEWS, UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A CRITICAL POSITION UNTIL WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO FILLING OR FILLING THAT VACANCY.
CAN I GET A CONFIRMATION ON THE SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MAY PRO TEMP TO BOTS BUY AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LOPEZ, VITO TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED OPPONENT APPOINTMENT OF ACTING HUMAN RESOURCES AND RISK MANAGEMENT.
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ITEM PASSES.ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON
[6) PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CODE AMENDMENT NO. 23-02 AND ORDINANCE NO. 2515 PERTAINING TO REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS THAT WOULD ALLOW BEER AND WINE SALES AT SERVICE STATIONS AS AN AUXILIARY USE]
TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.THIS MATTER SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING CONSISTS OF CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 23 DASH TWO AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 15 PERTAINING REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS THAT WOULD ALLOW BEER AND WINE SALES AT SERVICE STATIONS AS AN AUXILIARY USE.
WILL THE CITY CLERK VERIFY THE PROPER LEGAL NOTICES HAVE BEEN MADE? PROPER LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN MADE.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROJECT.
THERE WILL FIRST BE A PRESENTATION BY THE STAFF, THEN WE WILL SHARE, UM, SHALL HEAR THOSE IN FAVOR IN THE, THE PROJECT.
AND THOSE OPPOSED WHO WILL, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING THE REPORT.
MADAM MAYOR JOANNE BURNS, OUR PLANNING MANAGER WILL BE PROVIDING THE PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND START OFF MY PRESENTATION WITH A BACKGROUND AND HISTORY OF, UH, SIMILAR CODE AMENDMENTS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIFTH TIME THE CODE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, STARTING FROM 2008.
PREVIOUSLY, THE OTHER CODE AMENDMENTS CONSIDERED WERE EITHER ABANDONED, RESCINDED, OR NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST HEARD THE ITEM ON APRIL 25TH OF THIS YEAR.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE CODE AMENDMENT AND NOT ADOPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, CONSIDER THE MATTER ON THE GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT.
THEY ALSO DIRECTED STAFF TO PROVIDE THE CITY COUNCIL RELEVANT SURVEY INFORMATION FOR SURROUNDING CITIES RESEARCH ON CONSIDER INCLUDING 20 A MINIMUM OR, UM, 2000 SQUARE FEET CONVENIENCE STORE FOR AREA QUALIFIER.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL WERE TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THE CODE AMENDMENT, OBTAIN CRIME IMPACT INFORMATION, AND OBTAIN SALES TECH TAX IMPACT INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE CRIME IMPACT INFORMATION ACTING CHIEF TONY MARTINEZ AVAILABLE, UM, AT THE END OF MY PRESENTATION FOR HIS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THAT.
THE, THE ITEMS ON THE PROJECTOR ARE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SECTIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
THE PROPOSED CHANGES WERE OBTAINED FROM THE LETTER THAT MS. UM, MS. MR. KAMI SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SINCE HE WAS THE, HE IS THE APPLICANT AND REQUESTER, CURRENTLY THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE DOES NOT ALLOW ALCOHOL SALES AT SERVICE STATIONS.
ALL OTHER OFF-SALE USES REQUIRE AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT APPROVAL.
THE OBJECTIVE OF THE PROPOSED CODE MINIMUM IS TO ALLOW, AGAIN, BEER AND WINE SALES AT SERVICE STATIONS THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IF THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED.
IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ALL SERVICE STATIONS OR GAS STATIONS WOULD BE ALLOWED AUTOMATICALLY TO OBTAIN A, A LICENSE FROM THE CA CALIFORNIA ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL TO IN TO SELL BEER AND WINE.
THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, IF THEY WANTED TO SELL BEER AND WINE.
AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO SUBJECT TO APPEAL, UM, BY THE PLANNING BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, THIS SECTION AGAIN CLARIFIES THAT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UH, AND ALSO THE ENTIRE SITE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT CODE STANDARDS IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
UM, THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE PROJECTOR ARE UNIQUE TO THE CITY FOR THE SPECIFIC USE,
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UM, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE C C T V REQUIREMENT, OR C C T V PROPOSED REQUIREMENT WAS NOT IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REVIEWED, AND ALSO THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM CONVENIENCE STORE SIZE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN, OR IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT.THIS WAS WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED.
UM, AND THE ORDINANCE IS BEING PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT RECOMMEND ITS ADOPTION.
AND THE STANDARDS, UM, ON THE PROJECTOR ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BEVERAGE CONTROL, UM, REQUIRES FOR THE SALES OF BEER AND WINE, UM, IN GENERAL AND ALSO IN GAS STATIONS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF, IF THE CODE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED, STAFF WOULD LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADDING ON OR CLARIFYING LANGUAGE OR OTHER FEE-BASED OPERATED VIDEO GAMES OR VIDEO GAME VIDEO ENTERTAINMENT MACHINES SHALL BE PERMITTED ON THE PREMISES, MAINLY BECAUSE THE, UH, COINS ARE NOT USED OFF AS OFTEN ANYMORE AS IT WAS IN THE PAST.
SO STILL FOLLOWING THE SAME, UM, CALIFORNIA A B C LANGUAGE, UM, AND STILL HAS THE SAME INTENT, BUT AN UPDATED VERSION STAFF SURVEYED SIX SURROUNDING CITIES, THE CITY OF BALDWIN PARK, COVINA, OMA, LA PUENTE, PASADENA, AND WALNUT.
ALL SURVEYED CITIES REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE, PERMIT IT FOR THE SALES OF ALCOHOL, AND THEY DO NOT DISTINGUISH ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STANDALONE CONVENIENCE STORES AND CONVENIENCE STORES WITHIN A GASOLINE STATION.
SO, BASED ON THIS SURVEY, UM, I GUESS IF SQUARE MILES IS CALCULATED, UM, THE CITY OF WALNUT WOULD HAVE THE LOWEST CONCENTRATION AT ONE POINT 55 PER SQUARE MILES, AND WEST COVINA WOULD BE SECOND TO THE LEAST AT 2.8 SQUARE MILES.
AND LA PUENTE WOULD BE THE MOST FOR, UM, 9.48 FOR EVERY SQUARE MILE THERE ARE THE CITY OF ELMONT, ELMONTE, AND LA ENTENTE HA.
THEY HAVE UNIQUE, UM, CERTAIN UNIQUE STANDARDS IN DEAL IN DEALING WITH ALCOHOL SALES IN GENERAL.
AND LA PUENTE REQUIRES RETAILERS LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET TO BE AT LEAST 800 FEET AWAY FROM ANOTHER RETAILER THAT SELLS ALCOHOL FOR OFFSITE CONSUMPTION.
AND ELANI REQUIRES, UM, CRIME RATE REPORTING AREAS AND, AND REQUIRES SPECIFIC FINDINGS.
SOME ALCOHOL RELATED STATISTICS, UM, PERTAINING TO THE CITY.
THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS A NUMBER OF FOUR, UM, TOTAL OF 46 PLACES THAT HAVE ACTIVE BUSINESS LICENSES THAT SELL OFF, UM, ALCOHOL FOR OFFSITE CONSUMPTION.
AND AMONG THESE ARE 25 LIQUOR STORES AND 21 SUPERMARKETS PHARMACIES OR DEPARTMENT STORES.
UM, THERE ARE 20 GASOLINE STATIONS IN THE CI CITY WITH CONVENIENCE STORES, WITH ACTIVE BUSINESS LICENSE IN ALL OF ALL 20 GAS STATIONS, AGAIN, HAVE CONVENIENCE STORES.
THERE ARE SEVEN, UM, GASOLINE STATIONS THAT ARE AT LEAST 2000 SQUARE FEET IN FLOOR AREA, UM, WHICH WAS SOME, THE ITEM THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CON SUGGESTED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER LIMITING THE NUMBER TO, OR HAVING A MINIMUM TO NUMBER THE, THE 2000 SQUARE FEET DOES THE SEVEN.
THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORES IN GASOLINE STATIONS CANNOT BE EXPANDED.
UM, CURRENTLY THE NUMBER IS JUST IS SEVEN,
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UM, WITH THIS STAFF, OR IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER INTRODUCTION.INTRODUCING THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 25 15.
HOWEVER, PRIOR TO OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, ACTING CHIEF TONY CORINA WILL PRESENT INFORMATION FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE ON THE ISSUE.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL CITY STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
MY NAME IS TONY CORTINA AND IT IS MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS THE ACTING CHIEF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'VE BEEN ASKED TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO CHANGE LAND USE RELATED TO THE CONCURRENT SALE OF ALCOHOL MOTOR VEHICLE FUEL AT GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AND HOW THAT AFFECT AND HOW THAT MAY AFFECT CALL FOR SERVICE OR CRIME.
I BELIEVE THE EFFECTS SHOULD BE EXPLORED IN FAIR AND IMPARTIAL MANNER IN REGARDS TO THE POTENTIAL IMPACT.
ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION CAN CONTRIBUTE TO AN INCREASING CRIMES.
HOWEVER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT CRIME IS A COMPLEX ISSUE INFLUENCED BY VARIOUS FACTORS.
WHILE ALCOHOL SALES MAY CONTRIBUTE TO CRIME RATES, IT IS NOT THE SOLE DETERMINANT.
SOCIAL ECONOMIC FACTORS, LOCATION AND COMMUNITY DYNAMIC, FOR EXAMPLE, ALSO PLAY ROLES IN THIS.
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ALREADY HAS OFFSITE LICENSED LOCATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE ALCOHOL CAN BE PURCHASED.
THESE INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM LIQUOR STORES, CONVENIENCE STORES, GROCERY STORES, AND RETAILERS SUCH AS TARGET OR WALMART.
UH, FROM 2021 TO 2023, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AVERAGED APPROXIMATELY 1,465 CALLS FOR SERVICE EACH YEAR FOR A VARIETY OF INCIDENTS AT LOCATIONS THAT HAVE OFFSITE LICENSES.
OF THESE INCIDENTS, 6% WERE DIRECTLY ALCOHOL RELATED CALLS BECAUSE OF THE MANY FACTORS.
I'M SORRY, HOW MANY PERCENT? 6%.
UM, IN CONCLUSION, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THE STATE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL, UM, IS A ENTITY THAT HAS JURISDICTION OVER THE ISSUANCE AND REGULATION OF ALCOHOL LICENSES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THEY'RE ALSO THE PRIMARY AGENCY THAT CONDUCTS INSPECTIONS OF LICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE IN OUR STAFF OR OUR ACTING CAPTAIN? UM, CHIEF, UM, COUNCILWOMAN LO LOPEZ.
SO WHEN YOU GET THESE ALCOHOL CALLS, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, DO YOU ASK WHERE THEY GOT THE ALCOHOL FROM OR HOW MANY'S INSIDE OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? WHERE YEAH, JUST WHERE THE ALCOHOL CAME FROM WHEN WE, UM, CONDUCT ANY SORT OF PUBLIC INTOXICATION OR, UM, D U I RELATED INCIDENTS.
THAT IS, IS A QUESTION THAT'S ASKED IN THE REPORTS.
AND I DO, UH, ALSO BELIEVE THAT A B C HAS A, UH, A PROGRAM TO TRACK, UM, AND IDENTIFY CERTAIN LOCATIONS THAT MAY OVERSELLING MOSTLY IS A, UH, ONSITE TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT THAT, UM, WOULD BE, WOULD FALL UNDER THAT.
SUCH AS A BAR, RIGHT? LIKE A BAR? YES.
OH, YOU MEAN, UH, YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT THE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION IS AT THAT LOCATION WHERE THEY CONSUME AT THAT LOCATION, OR IS IT JUST THEY JUST GOT A PACK AND STARTED DRINKING? YES, BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY TRACKED BY, UM, OVER-SERVING AND THAT'S, THAT'S A, A BIG ISSUE.
UH, AND, UM, I WANT TO STARTING WITH THE STAFF AND THEN CAN GO THROUGH SOME, OKAY.
THE NUMBER ABOUT SAFETY ISSUE, BUT I WANT TO, OKAY.
I THINK WE HAVE THIS LIKE NEVER ENDING, COMING BACK DURING MY TIME.
I ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT HEARING, I THINK LAST TIME.
WE HAVE, UH, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER APPROVED FIVE ZERO, AND THEY CAME TO US, I THINK THAT'S IN THE OCTOBER, 2019.
AND, UH, WE TABLE IT, WE TABLE IT TO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO WE DIDN'T APPROVE A DECLINE.
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WHEN WE, OKAY.WE ASK THE CITY SO WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION FROM YOU SO WE CAN GET THIS THING.
GET ALL THE DETAILS SO WE CAN MAKE A RIGHT DECISION.
SO, BUT THE CITY REQUESTS THEM TO REAPPLY AGAIN.
SO THIS TIME WITH A DIFFERENT COMMISSIONER TO GIVE US A DIFFERENT SUGGESTION.
THIS DEAL, WE NEED TO, US WANT US TO MAKE A DECISION.
SO THEY DIDN'T, THEY MAKE SOME DECISION, BUT THIS DEAL, I THINK THEY, THIS TIME THEY DENIED, BUT THEY WANT US OKAY.
NOT APPEAR, BUT THEY WANT US TO MAKE A DECISION TO GET ALL THE DETAILS FROM THE POLICE AND, AND THE CITY.
BUT COUPLE QUESTION I HAVE IS THIS, HOW MANY CITIES SURROUNDING OUR CITY DO NOT ALLOWED A DAY TO APPLY THE C U P AND A B C APPLICATION? ALL CITIES SURROUNDING WEST COVINA, CORRECT? UM, ALLOW, UM, ALCOHOL NOT ALLOWED.
THE, THE GAS STATION TO SELL BEER, WINE.
OUR SURROUNDING, UM, THIS WEST COVINA IS THE ONLY CITY SURROUNDING WEST COVINA OR WEST COVINA IS THE ONLY, THE ONLY CITY IN THE AREA THAT DOES NOT ALLOW THE SALES OF ALCOHOL.
SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW ABOUT IN SAN GABRIEL VALLEY? WHICH CITY LIKE US? WHICH DISCORDS, WHAT, WHAT IS THIS DISCORD IN 1970, RIGHT? IT, I BELIEVE IN NINE, LATE 1970S.
OKAY, SO 1970 WITH HELPED DISCORDS.
SO NEXT QUESTION WILL BE IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY, WHICH CITY LIKE US DO NOT ALLOW, OKAY.
THE THEN TO APPLY THROUGH A, B, C, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SAN GABRIEL VALLEY.
SO BASICALLY WE STILL THE ONLY ONE.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SAN GABRIEL VALLEY CITY THAT DOES NOT ALLOW, SO, SO, SO BASICALLY WE, THE POSSIBLE, THE ONLY CITY IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, LET'S JUST SAY SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE APPROVED.
SO WE ARE THE ONLY CITY TO NOT ALLOW THEM TO GO TO C U P.
IS THROUGH, OKAY, APPROVAL FROM THE ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE CONTROL OF THE STATE, BECAUSE WE CANNOT APPROVE, THEY CAN SELL BILL ONE OR NOT.
WE ONLY ALLOW THEM, AM I RIGHT? WE ONLY ALLOW THEM TO GO TO C U P BY THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER, DO THE HEARING, AND THEN, OKAY.
IF THEY APPROVE, THEY HAVE TO PUT CONDITION AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE A, B, C TO GET APPROVAL.
AND THE A, B, C HAVE TO BASE ON, AM I RIGHT BASE A, B, C, HAVE TO BASE ON THE POPULATION AND THEN HOW MANY, AND IN THIS AREA TO APPROVE OR DECLINE THEIR APPLICATION PER A, B, C GUIDELINE.
AM I RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT, CHIEF.
AND THEN, SO, SO IN THAT WAY, CITI IS NOT A APPROVAL AGENCY.
WE BASICALLY, JUST LIKE OTHER CITY, ALLOW THEM TO APPLY THROUGH ANOTHER N T T C U P CONDITION USE PER ME, PER THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HEARING, AND THEN IF THE C U P APPROVE, THEN THEY CAN GO TO THE A, B, C AND TO GET APPROVAL OR DENIAL.
SO THE CITY'S GRANTING APPROVAL FOR THE LAND USE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN HAVE ONSITE OR OFFSITE, UM, ALCOHOL SALES.
UM, IT IS ULTIMATELY A B, C THAT GRANTS THEM THE LICENSE TO SERVE ALCOHOL.
SO, SO NOW WE GO BACK TO THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF THE CRIME.
AND 6% HOW MANY FROM OFFSITE AND HOW MANY FROM ON SITE? ON SITE, MEANING THE BAR, THE RESTAURANT.
AND THEN THEY INTOXICATED AND THEN, OR THIS AND THAT.
UH, MY, MY DATA IS ONLY FROM OFFSITE TO CO COLLABORATE WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
SO DO YOU HAVE, UH, ON SITE MANY PEOPLE INTOXICATED, MAKE A SCENE? THEY HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE THEN YOU GUYS TO SHOW UP? OKAY.
HOW MANY ALCOHOLIC OR ALCOHOL CREATE ISSUE TO, SORRY, TO KIND OF USE UP OUR RESOURCE? YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS FOR ONSITE, BUT FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THE ONSITE LOCATIONS DEFINITELY GENERATE MORE ALCOHOL, A LOT RELATED DUE TO, BECAUSE THEY, IT'S, OR OR DRINKING ON THAT LOCATION AND THEY FIGHT.
OR THEY CREATE AN ISSUE AND SOMEBODY CALLED THE POLICE.
SO, SO BASICALLY THIS IS, UH, UH, THE ISSUE ON THE ON SITE AND OFFITE.
SO YOUR NUMBER 6% IS OFFSITE? YES.
SO OFFITE BASICALLY IT'S LIKE A LIQUOR STORE? YES.
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STORE, CONVENIENCE STORES, GROCERY STORES, OR AGAIN, RETAILERS SUCH AS LIKE A TARGET, UH, UH, WALMART, THINGS LIKE THAT.SO THE NEXT ISSUE WOULD GO BACK TO THE, OKAY, UH, THE CITY.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT 20 GAS STATION, OKAY? UH, WITH CONVENIENCE STORE, SOME IS HUGE, SOMETHING IS SMALL.
UM, BUT THEY ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE A, B, C OR C O P, BUT FORGET THE C O P, THAT'S A B, C, THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? HOW BIG, HOW WHY IS THE OKAY LOCATION TO HAVE A STORAGE? WHAT KIND OF, UH, OKAY, THE SETUP.
OKAY, THAT'S CONTROLLED BY THE A, B, C, AM I RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO, SO BASICALLY OUR C U P IS JUST CREATE ANOTHER LAYER OF RESTRICTION TO THEM BEFORE THEY EVEN APPLY TO A, B, C.
CORRECT? SO, SO IF THE A, B, C ALREADY HAVE A RESTRICTION, SO WHAT IS THE POINT FOR US TO INCREASE EVEN MORE RESTRICTION, OKAY.
FOR THEM TO GO TO A, B, C, SINCE WE DO NOT OKAY, APPROVE ALL THE CELL ALCOHOL IS A, B, C APPROVAL.
WE JUST ALLOW THEM TO APPLY AND IF A, B, C CAN APPROVE WELL, AND THAT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER, THE ONLY THING, THE ISSUE IS IN THAT LOCATION WHERE THEY CREATE THE RESOURCE OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY CREATE POTENTIALLY ISSUE.
AM I RIGHT? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
BUT IF, UH, IF, UH, WE HAVE ANY OTHER SOMETHING TO KIND OF A MECHANISM BECAUSE THE DRINK AND DRY PEOPLE DON'T DRINK AND DRY, LIKE, OKAY, I GO TO THE RESTAURANT, I JUST SAID NO, I CANNOT DRINK BECAUSE I NEED TO DRY.
WHY I DON'T WANNA GET PULLED OVER BY YOU, THEN I WILL BE ON THE NEWSPAPER OR THE D U I.
PEOPLE POTENTIAL POTENTIALLY LOSE MY JOB AND THE HUMILIATION AND MAYBE IN JAIL FOR SOME BAD THING HAPPENED TO ME.
OKAY? SO, SO, SO THAT'S WHY I SAY NO, I'M, SO I THINK, AM I RIGHT? SO CAN YOU TELL US WHY IS THE PUNISHMENT FOR D U I AND HOW OFTEN WE, WE, OUR OFFICER WILL PULL PEOPLE OFF IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE POTENTIALLY DRINKING AND DRY.
WE, WE, UH, TAKE D U I VERY SERIOUSLY IN THE CITY, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OFFICERS THAT RECEIVED, UH, THE MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING.
THAT'S CALLED THE MAT AWARD FOR THE NUMBER OF, UH, ARRESTS.
AND WE ALSO CONDUCT D U I CHECKPOINTS AND, AND WORK CLOSELY WITH, UH, THE O T SS TO RECEIVE MONIES TO, UM, COMBAT THAT.
SO IT IS, UH, A HUGE PRIORITY OF, OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT IS A VERY SERIOUS CRIME.
IT COULD LEAD TO, UM, SO WE FEED THE CAR, RIGHT? YOU, WELL, I MEAN IT COULD LEAD TO AND OKAY, INJURY AND DEATH AND COLLISIONS AND SO FORTH.
AND, UH, IT IS A VERY SERIOUS, THERE'S SEVERAL FINES THAT GO INTO THAT REVOKE DRIVER'S LICENSE.
SUSPENSION OF DRIVER'S LICENSE, POTENTIAL FINES, UH, JAIL TIME, POTENTIAL JAIL TIME, POTENTIAL PROBATION, AND THEN MULTIPLE COUNTS OF D U I, UM, ADDED, ADDED, EXEMPLIFY THE, UH, THE PUNISHMENT.
SO, SO, SO THE ISSUE IS, IS NOT ONLY THE DRINK AND DRY, IT'S, UH, UNDER INFLUENCE.
SO INFLUENCE, INCLUDING NOW WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO SMOKE POP.
SO THAT IS A MAJOR ISSUE HOW YOU, HOW YOU PULL PEOPLE, OKAY.
AND THEN, THEN YOU DO THE TEST, IT'S THE ALCOHOL.
BUT IF THEY ARE UNDER INFLUENCE OR SOMETHING ELSE, UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL DRUG RECOGNITION EXPERTS THAT WE PUT OUT INTO THE FIELD, UM, THAT DO CONDUCT, UH, UNDER THE INF DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE INVESTIGATIONS, AND THEY CAN DETERMINE IF SOMEBODY'S UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SOME SORT OF, UH, CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE OR MARIJUANA IN ADDITION TO ALCOHOL.
SO, SO MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL DO A CHECKPOINT FROM TIME TO TIME AND THEN TO ALL THE DIFFERENT AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY, OKAY, THE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY, THEY KNOW THE PUNISHMENT OR THE CONSEQUENCE OF, UH, OKAY.
SO, SO IT IS, IT'S NOT A CONVENIENT STORE TO CREATE, OKAY? DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE BASICALLY IS THE PEOPLE WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, EVEN GO TO RESTAURANT, GO TO ON SITE, OFFSITE LIQUOR STORE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO OBEY THE LAW, AND THEY CAN BASICALLY DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE AND CREATE A BIG PROBLEM FOR THE COMMUNITY.
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COMES DOWN TO THE JUDGMENT OF THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON.SO ANY SUGGESTION, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY? BUT ANYWAY, I, I LEAVE THIS TO ALL THE COUNSEL.
I'M, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF.
UM, EITHER YOU OR JOANNE CAN ANSWER.
UM, HOW MANY OFFSITE LOCATIONS ACTUALLY SELL ONE CONTAINER ITEM? WOULD EITHER OF YOU KNOW? THE REASON WHY I ASKED, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US IN 2019, I DID MY RESEARCH, I AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHERE I STAND ON THIS SITUATION.
I TOLD THE PUBLIC THAT I WAS 50 50 IN, IN REGARDS TO THE SITUATION.
GRANTED, I DID VOTE ON ONE, BUT, UM, I DO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO L A P D WE'RE ALL ALCOHOL AND EVERYTHING IS THERE.
AND, UM, L A P D DID MENTION THAT THE SITES THAT SOLD ONLY LIKE ONE CAN, ONE CONTAINER HAD THE MOST PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
THEY BUY ONE, THEY LOITER, THEY THEY DRINK.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I, I DO SEE HERE ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES, YOU KNOW, THE SALE OF BEER AND QUANTITIES FEWER THAN THREE CONTAINERS IS PROHIBITED, WHICH IS GREAT.
BUT I KNOW THIS IS A PROPOSED, UM, CHANGE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW CURRENTLY, I MEAN, IS THAT ALLOWED AND HOW MANY OFFSITES ACTUALLY SELL ONE BOTTLE WOULD EITHER OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC DATA.
I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
I GUESS FOR THOSE WHO DRINK
THEY DO, THEY DO SELL THOSE, RIGHT? YEAH.
LIKE YOU CAN GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND BUY A BOTTLE OR ONE CAN, ONE CAN OF BEER, I BELIEVE.
I I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT QUESTION.
UH, SO I, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS JUST 'CAUSE UH, I, I WANTED, UH, THE PUBLIC TO BE CLEAR, UH, FIRST OFF, CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, WE PROHIBIT THE SALE OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES AT SERVICE STATIONS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
RIGHT? SO, SO THAT IS A CITY OF WEST COVINA, UH, ORDINANCE THAT, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STATE OR, OR ANY OTHER, UH, RIGHT.
SO IF YOU'RE A GAS STATION CURRENTLY, YOU CANNOT APPLY FOR ALCOHOL SALES BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY DO NOT ALLOW IT.
UM, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION, UM, SO, UH, IS JUST BECAUSE WE, WE ALSO USED TO HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR, FOR DRIVE-THROUGHS AND, AND WE PUT A MORATORIUM ON THAT.
SO WE DO HAVE A, A PRECEDENT OF, UH, PROHIBITING THESE TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.
UH, I THINK THE, THE OTHER QUESTION, THIS, UM, MUNICIPAL CODE, UM, HAS BEEN AROUND FOR, FOR 40, 50 YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? SINCE THE LATE 1970S.
SO, SO THEN JUST FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE, EVERY, EVERY GAS STATION THAT, THAT, THAT CHOSE TO, TO COME TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AFTER, UH, THE LATE 1970S UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY COULD NOT SELL ALCOHOL, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEN OF THE 20, UH, OR 46, UH, VENDORS WHO THEN DECIDED TO PUT THEIR BUSINESSES IN WEST COVINA, LIKE, UH, SO FOR INSTANCE, ON MERCED, THERE'S A SEVEN 11 THAT'S NEXT TO AN ARCO GAS STATION AND A CHEVRON.
UH, THEY UNDERSTOOD WHEN THEY PUT THEIR SEVEN 11 THERE, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY, THEY APPLIED FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT? YES.
SO WITH WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COMPETITORS, THE, THE CHEVRON AND THE ARCO WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, TO TAKE BUSINESS, RIGHT? THAT THERE, THERE WAS A MARKET BECAUSE THESE OTHER TWO COULDN'T SELL.
WHEN, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THE, AS AS YOUR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE SEVEN 11 LOCATED IN THE CITY, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY DID KNOW THE ARCO OR THE, THE OTHER GAS STATION WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL.
TYPICALLY, WHEN BUSINESSES, UM, INQUIRE ABOUT COMING TO THE CITY, THEY ASK IF THERE'S CERTAIN USE IS ALLOWED.
UM, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY ASK IF OTHER USES ARE, ARE ALLOWED FOR OTHER BUSINESSES, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SPECULATE THAT THEY DID MARKET RESEARCH AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE, THE RULES OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY WOULD SEE THERE, THERE, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPENING, A NEED.
AND SO, UH, 'CAUSE I'M JUST WONDERING.
SO 'CAUSE IF WE, IF WE MAKE THIS CHANGE, 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE US THAT ALLOW THE ALCOHOL NOT BE ANOTHER AGENCY, IT WOULD BE US.
IF WE VOTE TO CHANGE THIS, IT WOULD BE THE FIVE MEMBERS UP HERE ON THE DAIS WHO WOULD BE MAKING THE ALCOHOL, NOT SOMEONE ELSE.
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WE, WE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE, UM, PUTTING AT RISK BUSINESSES THAT CAME HERE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE, THERE WASN'T THAT COMPETITION.SO ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE THERE'S A, THERE'S LIKE THIS, THIS, UH, LITTLE MARKET NEXT TO A SALVADORIAN RESTAURANT, THEY'RE LIKE WITHIN THE SAME THING AND IT, IT SELLS ALCOHOL.
UM, BUT IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THIS, THE PLACE ACROSS THE STREET WOULD THEN ALSO BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL.
SO WE, WE COULD SEE A NEGATIVE IMPACT NOT ONLY ON THAT, THAT LITTLE MARKET, BUT ON THE RESTAURANT THAT BENEFITS FROM THE WALKING TRAFFIC, RIGHT? THAT ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S BUSINESS LICENSE CONSULTANT, UM, THAT A POTENTIAL IMPACT CAN BE CANNIBALIZING THE SALES OF OTHER, UM, STORES.
SO I, I JUST, UH, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE CLEAR THAT ANY CHANGE WE MAKE HERE, UM, MAY, MAY BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN BUSINESSES, BUT IT WILL, WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON, ON OTHER BUSINESSES THAT HAVE, HAVE COME INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE, WITH THE CURRENT RULES.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, IT IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR US, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHILE OTHER CITIES MAYBE DON'T HAVE THIS ORDINANCE, AND WHY DO WE, WELL, WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, WELL WE, WE ALSO ATTRACTED BUSINESSES THAT MAY NOT HAVE COME HERE BECAUSE WE HAD THIS ORDINANCE, RIGHT? AND BECAUSE WE HAD THIS ORDINANCE, MAYBE THE SEVEN 11 FOUND, OH, THIS WOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIVE.
THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
UM, QUICK QUESTION, UH, JOANNE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YEAR DID THE OTHER CITIES DEVELOP THEIR GAS STATION LICENSE? BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND BACK IN THE DAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE WEREN'T SERVICE STATIONS, THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, JUST STRICTLY GLASS GAS AND AS WE DEVELOP EVERYTHING EXPAND.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN TO HAVE, I I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON AS FAR AS OTHER CITIES ARE CONCERNED.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IN THE MID 1980S, UM, THIS, THERE WAS NEW STATE LAW THAT BASICALLY SAID THAT IF A CITY DID NOT ALREADY PROHIBIT, UM, ALCOHOL SALES AND GASOLINE STATIONS, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ADOPT CO NEW CODE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT.
SO, UH, IN, IN THAT SENSE, I BELIEVE THOSE CITIES DID NOT HAVE THAT CODE IN PLACE LIKE AS WEST COVINA DID.
AND THEN AS TO WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM WAS DISCUSSING ABOUT COMPETITION, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN IT HERE IN THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE HAD THE DONUT SHOP, UH, WE HAD THE RESIDENTS COME IN AND SAID, THAT'S NOT FAIR FOR THIS POOR DONUT SHOP.
YOU'RE PUTTING ANOTHER DONUT SHOP RIGHT NEXT TO THE DONUT SHOP IN THE SAME PLAZA.
AND THERE WAS AN UPROAR, UM, GRANTED IT PULLED THROUGH.
THAT DONUT SHOP IS THERE AND THAT SMALL DONUT SHOP IS STILL SURVIVING.
IT DIDN'T REALLY HURT THE COMPETITION AND EVERYTHING IS GOOD.
SO IN REGARDS TO LIKE COMPETITION AND STUFF, UM, I, AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT CONVENIENCE AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT CHOICES.
SO IN, IN THAT THEORY, IN THAT SENSE OF COMPETITION ON THAT, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THAT DID OCCUR IN THE SAME CITY WITH THE SAME TYPE OF LINE OF WORK AND INDUSTRY.
UM, THAT'S MY, UH, I YIELD THAT AND THEN WE'LL GO COUNCILMAN CONTOS.
WHAT, UM, UM, UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE, THE ACTING CHIEF, UH, ACTING CHIEF CORTINA, WHAT IS THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AT THESE CONVENIENCE STORES OR THESE TYPES OF CONVENIENCE STORES AND ANY PREVALENCE OR INCREASE IN DRUNK DRIVING OR INCIDENTS OF, OF ALLEGATIONS OF D U I? BECAUSE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THAT IN OUR CITY.
I CAN'T GIVE ACCURATE STATS ON HOW THAT'LL AFFECT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
AND ANYTHING I'D SAY WOULD JUST BE A GUESS.
AND I DON'T WANNA PREDICT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN.
AND THEN, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED IS THE INSTALLATION OF FLOCK CAMERAS.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THOSE ARE AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE, THE INSTALLATION OF SUCH CAMERAS WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF, OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS TO, TO ADDRESS CRIME IN THE CITY? WELL, FLOCK CAMERAS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN PLACE IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 30 CAMERAS, AND THEY, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY, UM, READ LICENSE PLATES AND GIVE REAL TIME FEEDBACK OR NOTIFICATION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THE LICENSE PLATE RETURNS AS A STOLEN VEHICLE, UM, OR IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OTHER
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SORT OF SERIOUS FELONIOUS CRIME.SO IT'S A, THEY'RE VERY, UH, IT'S A VERY USEFUL AND EFFECTIVE TECHNOLOGY IN REDUCING AND PREVENTING CRIME AS WELL AS ENHANCING PUBLIC SAFETY.
UH, WE'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUCCESS IN APPREHENDING, UM, PEOPLE FROM THAT JUST COMMITTED SHOOTINGS TO OBVIOUSLY BEING IN POSSESSION OF STOLEN VEHICLES TO BURGLARIES TO EVEN A MURDER.
SO IT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY USEFUL TOOL, UM, AND TECHNOLOGY FOR ENHANCING PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND ARE THESE FLOCK CAMERAS INSTALLED ONLY IN PUBLIC PLACES OR, OR CAN THEY BE INSTALLED BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES? UH, THEY, THEY CAN BE INSTALLED BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES AS, AND THEN THERE ARE A COUPLE IN THE CITY, I BELIEVE.
AND IF THE PRIVATE BUSINESSES DO INSTALL THESE CAMERAS, THEN THEY WOULD BE NETWORKED WITH THE REST OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS IN THE CITY.
AND IN FACT, THE NETWORK SPREADS TO ANY OTHER PARTICIPATING AGENCIES IN THE CITY.
UM, SO IF WE HAVE A CRIME THAT OCCURS IN OUR CITY, WE CAN IDENTIFY A VEHICLE AND IF ANOTHER AGENCY HAS HAD THAT VEHICLE IN THEIR CITY WITHIN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME AS WELL, WE CAN COLLABORATE AND IT HELPS PROVIDE LEADS FOR, UM, SOLVING SERIOUS CRIMES.
AND, AND MADAM ACTING CITY MANAGER, UH, HOW MANY STORES COULD POTENTIALLY END UP INSTALLING THE FLAT CAMERAS TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY MAY WISH TO, UH, CHOOSE TO APPLY FOR, UH, TO, TO SELL ALCOHOL AT THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS? UM, IT WOULD DEPEND IF THE ORDINANCE INCLUDED THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR THE, UH, C U P, THEN ANY, UM, GAS STATION THAT WANTED TO SELL, UM, OFF SALE ALCOHOLS IN THEIR CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN UP TO 20 GAS STATIONS COULD BE IMPACTED? CORRECT.
OR SEVEN, SEVEN, IF IT'S, UH, I THINK 2000 SQUARE FEET OR LARGER OR 20 OR ALL 20, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT, SO IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT, THEN IT WOULD APPLY TO ALL 20.
IN WHICH CASE IN, IN WHICH CASE, UH, IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT FLOCK CAM WOULD NEED TO BE INSTALLED AS PART OF THE, UH, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY EXPAND OUR NETWORK FROM 30 TO 50, POTENTIALLY, CORRECT.
AND THAT WOULD NOT BE AT THE EXPENSE OF OF CITY TAXPAYERS BECAUSE THE BUSINESSES WOULD BE FLIPPING THE BILL FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS.
AND THE BUSINESSES WOULD BE THEREFORE WILLING TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN ON AN ONGOING BASIS THOSE FLA FLOCK, FLOCK CAMERAS IF, UH, SHOULD THEY DECIDE TO SELL ALCOHOL AT THEIR PREMISES, IT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN OR COMPLY WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
SO IF IT BECOMES A CONDITION TO HAVE FILE CAMERAS AND HAVE IT CONTINUE TO OPERATING, YES.
SO, UM, ACTING, UH, CHIEF CORTINA, THAT WOULD THEREFORE MEAN THAT IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IN INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO, TO, UH, ADDRESS CRIME BY A LEVEL OF, UH, 40%.
AM I DOING THE MATH RIGHT, UH, CORRECTLY ON THAT, OR 66%? I CAN'T GIVE A SPECIFIC ANSWER AS TO WHAT IT WOULD BE BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY COULD BE, JUST DEPENDS WHERE THEY'RE PLACED.
THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES, BUT I WOULD SAY, SAY IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT IT WOULD, UH, INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE MORE THOSE CAMERAS, I THINK THE BETTER POTENTIALLY JUMPING FROM 30 TO 50 LOCATIONS.
AND WHEN COUNSEL'S COMPLETED WITH QUESTIONS, LET'S HAVE THE PUBLIC SPEAK AND THEN WE CAN CLOSE IT AND DELIBERATE IF WE'RE DONE WITH QUESTIONS.
I JUST HAVE ONE, ONE QUESTION.
SO, SO, SO CAPTAIN CORTINA, SO, SO ARE, ARE YOU SAYING THEN, UM, IN EXCHANGE FOR, UH, SATURATION OF ALCOHOL, UM, MORE SURVEILLANCE MAKES US SAFER? IS, IS THAT BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT SEEMED TO BE THE QUESTIONING THAT IF WE HAVE MORE, MORE ALCOHOL, BUT WE GOT FLOCK CAMERAS, WE'D BE SAFER.
AND, UM, NOW I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, I'M GONNA MOVE TO, LET'S SEE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? MAYOR, I HAVE EIGHT SPEAKER CARDS IN FAVOR.
UM, AND BEFORE I CALL THE NAMES, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT I DID EMAIL YOU TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS EARLIER THIS EVENING THAT YOU HAD RECEIVED EARLIER, BUT I RE-EMAIL THEM TO YOU SO YOU ARE AWARE OF THOSE.
UM, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE LINE UP AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
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IS ROSEMARY VALERO, FOLLOWED BY PATRICIA VALERO, FOLLOWED BY HENRY PAT.UH, ROSEMARY, UM, MAYOR, LET'S HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEAK FIRST AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, OKAY, I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEAK FIRST.
THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO SPEAK FIRST.
GOOD EVENING EVERY, ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'VE BEEN OWNER OF THE, UH, UH, STATION ON THE CORNER OF WORKING.
I'M WORKMAN AND CITRUS, 2 46 NORTH CITRUS IN WEST FOR 43 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN SERVING COMMUNITY, UM, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN S COVINA SINCE 1978, I'VE BEEN APPLIED WITH THE, UM, FOR A BEER AND WINE LICENSE BECAUSE, UH, MY CUSTOMER CONVENIENCE, UH, I USED TO BE AS A, I MEAN, ALL THE GAS STATION USED TO BE A SERVICE STATION, REPAIR CARS DO THIS AND THAT, BUT NOW IT'S DIFFERENT.
IT'S TOTALLY MARKET, IT'S CONVENIENT FOR THE CONSUMER.
ONLY REASON I'M APPLYING FOR THIS BECAUSE REALLY FOR MY CUSTOMER CONVENIENCE AND, UH, I SEE THE CUSTOMER WALKING AND OUT WITH NO SALE, AND THAT REALLY BUGS ME.
I MEAN, I'M HERE TO ASK YOU GUYS, PLEASE, IF YOU COULD DO AND HELP ME OUT TO GET THIS JOURNEY OVER.
THANK YOU ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
FIRST, OUR FIRST IN FAVOR IS ROSEMARY VALERO, FOLLOWED BY PATRICIA VALERO, FOLLOWED BY HENRY ROSEMARY.
UM, I WORK IN THE AREA AND I, I GO BY THIS, UH, THIS PLACE EVERY DAY.
AND, UM, FOR ME IT'S VERY CONVENIENT.
I PUT GAS THERE AND THEN, UH, I LIKE TO GO INTO THE LITTLE STORE AND IT'S LIKE A BIGGER STORE, SO I LIKE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I COULD GET OTHER STUFF THERE.
AND THEN, UM, LIKE ON FRIDAYS, UM, WE HAVE LIKE COMPANY OVER AT OUR HOUSE AND, UM, I LIKE TO STOP AND BUY STUFF, AND THEN I CAN EVEN PICK UP LIKE MAYBE A BOTTLE OF WINE OR SOMETHING.
AND IT'S, AND I'M A VERY RESPONSIBLE PERSON, SO I WOULD NEVER, YOU KNOW, JUST NOT, I WOULD TAKE IT HOME.
I, I WOULD NEVER DRINK AND, YOU KNOW, THE CAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, BUT I THINK, UM, THAT'S A VERY CONVENIENT THING.
INSTEAD OF STOPPING AT THE MARKET JUST FOR THAT, WHAT I COULD JUST STOP THERE FOR EVERYTHING.
I CAN GET MY A, A CAR WASH AND I CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE LITTLE STORE, PUT MY GAS AND EVERYTHING.
AND, AND ON FRIDAYS IT'S REALLY, UM, BUSY.
SO IT, I'D, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE VERY CONVENIENT FOR, FOR ME AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.
PATRICIA VALERO, FOLLOWED BY HENRY, FOLLOWED BY HOSHI.
GOOD EVENING, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE.
UM, I AS WELL LIVE CLOSE BY AND I WORK VERY CLOSE BY THERE.
AND MY HUSBAND WILL CALL ME UP.
HE GETS OUT, YOU KNOW, FOUR O'CLOCK, HE GOES STRAIGHT HOME AND HE'LL ASK ME IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD STOP BY THE CONVENIENCE STORE, UM, WHILE I GET MY CAR WASHED, OR GET SOME CHIPS FOR THE KIDS, GRANDKIDS.
AND HE'LL ASK ME, UM, CAN YOU STOP AND GET, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF BEERS? WELL, I CAN'T BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE BEERS THERE.
BUT I DO VERY CLOSE WORK, VERY CLOSE BY THERE, AND IT'S VERY, VERY CONVENIENT.
ON SATURDAYS I GO AND, YOU KNOW, GET MY GASOLINE THERE, FILL IT UP FOR THE WEEK, DO A CAR WASH, AND I CAN'T REALLY GO IN, IN THE STORE.
'CAUSE MY HUSBAND, HE LIKES HIS BEER AND I'LL HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IT'S, I'LL HAVE TO DRIVE LIKE TWO MILES AWAY, JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR CONVENIENCE.
SO IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF YOU WOULD GET HIS LICENSE OR HIS BEER AND WINE THERE.
FOLLOWED BY HOSHI, FOLLOWED BY JAMIE SHEPHERD.
I'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS WITH THIS PLACE FOR 15 YEARS.
I DO GAS, I GET GAS, I DO CAR WASH.
THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T HAVE BEER.
SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS
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AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.HOSHI, FOLLOWED BY JAMIE SHEPHERD, FOLLOWED BY HERBERT.
JUST TO SAY THAT WOULD BE VERY CONVENIENT FOR ALL THE CUSTOMERS AND EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY COME IN, GET THEIR GAS AND SNACKS AND IF THEY COULD BUY THEIR BEER OR WINE, IF THEY WISH TO BUY 'EM AND TAKE 'EM HOME, IT'LL BE ONE STOP.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE, DRIVE ANYWHERE ELSE, POTENTIALLY HAVE AN ACCIDENT OR WHATEVER ELSE.
IF THEY WANT A GAS, THEY GET A GAS WANT USE THE A T M, THEY GET, YOU KNOW, TO USE THE A T M, GET A SNACK OR A DRINK, PERHAPS SODAS AND FIRE THEIR BEER AND GO HOME.
WHAT'S SO BIG DEAL ABOUT THAT? JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GAS PUMPS THAT SHOULDN'T CAUSE THIS, BECAUSE THAT, WHEN, BESIDE WHAT I'M HEARING IS THIS WAS BACK IN THE DAYS, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID NO, THEY CAN'T SELL IT BECAUSE OF SERVICE STATION.
SERVICE STATION IS MECHANIC SHOP.
NOW THESE DAYS WE ARE NOT MECHANIC SHOP.
IT IS A CONVENIENCE STORE, IT IS A FOOD MARKET.
BUT IN A SMALLER PACKAGE OR ANY OTHER COMPANY, YOU KNOW, BIG GROCERY STORE THAT SELL BEER OR WINE OR HARD LIQUOR, UH, SHOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU ALL ALLOW THIS GET, YOU KNOW, GO FORWARD.
SO WE MAY OR ANY OTHER CUSTOMERS WISH TO BUY BEER AND WINE FROM THE STORE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO DIFFERENT PLACES, MAKE DIFFERENT STOPS SO THEY CAN JUST BUY IN ONE PLACE AND GO HOME.
JAMIE SHEPHERD, FOLLOWED BY HERBERT, FOLLOWED BY SCHOCHER.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK.
I JUST WANTED, I, I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THAT GAS STATION.
UM, I USED TO GO TO A DIFFERENT GAS STATION BEFORE, BUT BECAUSE IT CHANGED, UM, TO A, A MOBILE MO, EXCUSE ME, I'M DEHYDRATED
UM, UM, BECAUSE IT CHANGED TO A MOBILE STATION, IT BECAME A LOT CHEAPER.
SO IT'S BEEN, UH, A ONE-STOP SHOP FOR ME.
I'M NEW TO THE AREA, SO IT'S BEEN GREAT TO NOT HAVE TO RUN AROUND AND GO TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND LIKE, I CAME FROM GLENDALE AND YOU CAN BUY BEER AND WINE AT SAY THE SEVEN 11 RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE.
AND I COULD JUST WALK AND, UM, BUY IT, STICK IT IN A BACKPACK AND WALK HOME AND INSTEAD OF DRIVING EVEN.
SO IT'S, IT HAS A LOT OF CONVENIENCES, ESPECIALLY COMING OFF THE FREEWAY OR BEING A BUSY PERSON LIKE ME WORKING.
FOLLOWED BY SCHOCHER, FOLLOWED BY, I BELIEVE IT'S SALLY MORALES.
UH, I KNOW YOU HEARD THE WORD CONVENIENT A LOT AND UH, I THINK THE MAIN THING I WANT TO SAY IS IT'S ABOUT SAVING TIME.
MOST OF YOU WOULD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME YOU GUYS GET OFF, BUT I GET OFF AT FIVE AND I SLEEP AT 10.
UH, THAT MEANS GIVES ME FIVE HOURS TO DO WHATEVER I WANT.
AND LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE, I LIKE TO RELAX, YOU KNOW, AVOID CALLS, AVOID TEXTS.
I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO MY FRIENDS THAT MUCH.
BUT, UH, I DO WANNA JUST, UH, HAVE ANYTHING AT A ONE STOP SHOP, LIKE A CAR WASH, FILL UP MY GAS, GRAB AN APPLE 'CAUSE I AM ON A DIET, GET A LIGHT BEER AND, UM, THAT'S IT, HONESTLY, THAT, THAT'S ALL.
AND AFTER THIS, I'M PROBABLY GONNA GO STOP BY A SEVEN 11 BECAUSE I CAN'T STOP AT A GAS STATION.
SCHOCHER FOLLOWED BY MORALES, FOLLOWED BY MARIO.
I AM THE OWNER OF THE STATION HERE FOR THE CHEVRON AND THE ARCA.
I HAVE BEEN AT THAT STATION AT THE CHEVRON FOR 32 YEARS.
I HAVE SERVED THE COMMUNITY, SERVED MANY FRIENDS, DONE MANY GOOD THINGS WITH THE CITY, WITH THE MEALS ON WHEELS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICT WORK ON CITY'S CARS.
DONE ALL THEIR ALIGNMENT BACK THEN WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE SMOG AND ALL THAT.
STILL SELL GAS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON CHARGE, YOU KNOW, THEY COME OVER, FILL IT UP AND THEY PAY ME AFTER A COUPLE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, GAS STATION.
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THE CODE WAS PUT IN ON THE BOOKS IN 1974.ARE WE GONNA LIVE IN 9 19 74? ARE WE GONNA LIVE IN 2023? IT WAS PUT IN, UH, THOSE DAYS WE WERE SERVICE STATION.
ALL I HAD FOR BAY REPAIR SHOP AND A WATER FOUNTAIN AND A MAP ON THE WALL FOR, FOR ANYBODY TO COME TO GAS STATION.
IF THEY'RE LOST, THEY LOOK AT THE MAP, THEY DRINK THAT FREE WATER FOUNTAIN, THEY WERE GOOD.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIME THEY ASK US, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY GOING OR WHERE THIS CERTAIN BUSINESS ARE, BUT MOST TIME FOR, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN A CITY CUSTOMER, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, INTERACTION WITH A LOT OF THE TRAVELER.
IT'S DUE TO THE PROPERTY PRICING DUE TO CARS.
WE CAN'T WORK ON THE CARS THAT ARE ON THE STREET TODAY.
I DON'T HAVE ELECTRICAL CHARGER, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE CAR COME WITH 10 YEAR WARRANTY.
KIA I CAN, YOU KNOW, AND THE, UH, KIA AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? HYUNDAI
SO FOR 10 YEAR, I CAN'T EVEN WORK ON THE CAR.
IF I WANTED TO HAVE THAT SERVICE STATION WITHOUT THE WEIRD AND WHITE, I'M OUTTA LUCK.
I WAS FORCED TO TURN MY STATION INTO CONVENIENCE STORE DUE TO ALL THESE OTHER REASONS.
LIKE I JUST SAID ONE, I CAN'T WORK ON THOSE CARS.
SO OF A LOT OF OTHER STATIONS AND ALSO THE OIL COMPANY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEIR LIABILITY.
IT'S COST $700,000 TO REPLACE THE TANKS AT A STATION THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LEAK THERE.
SO ECONOMICALLY, WE NEED EVERY PENNY WE CAN GET, BUT IT'S POTENTIALLY AND ALSO SERVE OUR CUSTOMER WHAT THEY NEED.
WE'RE NOT GONNA DELIVER BEER AND WINE TO PEOPLE'S HOUSE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT IT IN THEIR CARS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA OPEN IT FOR THEM.
WE'RE CAN ONLY SELL IT TO THE CUSTOMER THAT WANT THE NEED THAT CAME IN ALREADY TO MY STORE.
CUSTOMERS THAT THERE ALREADY, THEY'RE ASKING WHERE'S THE BEER? DON'T HAVE IT.
WHY? YOU KNOW, SOME CUSTOMERS ARE FRIENDLY AND I TRY NOT TELL 'EM WHY, BECAUSE THEY, THEY, SO THIS GUY DON'T KNOW WHAT HE TALKING ABOUT.
EVERY OTHER STATION SELLS A BEER AROUND THE TOWN.
SO I THINK IT'S TIME TO CHANGE.
BUT COMPARING WITH THE SEVEN 11, LIKE YOU HAVE ASKED, SO LIKE SHE EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, SO HOW MANY SEVEN 11 WE HAD BACK THEN AND HOW MANY OTHER LIQUOR STORE WE HAVE? THEN YOU CAN COMPARE.
THERE'S ALWAYS MORE BUSINESS COMING.
MORE MIGHT BE A GOOD, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE MAKING EVERYBODY MAKE THAT LEFT TURN INTO THAT SEVEN 11, YOUR CROWDING THAT ONE PLACE, YOU KNOW, YOUR CUSTOMER COULD BE DIVIDED, YOUR RESIDENT COULD BE DIVIDED IN THREE PLACES RIGHT THERE.
MAYBE YOU ELIMINATE COUPLE ACCIDENTS PER YEAR.
MAYBE YOU ELIMINATE THE FRUSTRATION OF THOSE CUSTOMERS.
SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE APPLIED MANY TIME, WE'RE TURNED BACK MANY TIMES AND WE WERE COMPLY.
WE WILL COMPLY WITH ANY CONDITION.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE TIME AND EVEN YOU CHANGE THE CODE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M GONNA GO START SELLING BEER TOMORROW, I'M FAR AWAY FROM THAT.
IT IS MORE HURDLE THAN JUST ALLOWING TO APPLY.
THERE'S TWO MORE, THREE MECHANISMS THAT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO SELL BEER.
SO PLEASE CONSIDER IT'S FOR YOUR CUSTOMER, IT'S FOR YOUR BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, TO PAY THE TAXES AND ALL.
ALL I CAN DO TO QUEST CANNOT FORCE.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS ON THIS.
UM, I'M JUST HERE TO SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF SALLY.
THE BEER AND WINE AT THE EASTLAND.
HI, AT THE EASTLAND MOBILE GAS STATION OR THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S CONVENIENT AND UM, I ALSO THINK THAT IT WILL HELP, UM, BUSINESSES GROW BY GIVING THE CONSUMERS WHAT THEY WANT.
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YOU MARIO.HELLO, MARIO ALVARO, DISTRICT THREE.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS ORDINANCE CAME INTO PLACE.
UM, IF YOU KNOW WHY, AND YOU KNOW, OTHER THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT, CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.
I'VE SEEN GRAPHS WHERE SHARK ATTACKS MATCH THE RELEASE OF NICHOLAS CAGE MOVIES.
YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY TIME NICHOLAS CAGE MAKES A MOVIE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A SHARK ATTACK OR VICE VERSA.
UM, I JUST HEAR A LOT OF CORRELATION, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE CORRELATIONS OF CRIME.
THERE'S LIQUOR TO BE BOUGHT EVERYWHERE.
IT IS A MATTER OF CONVENIENCE.
UM, BUT GOING BACK TO WHY IT'S BUSINESS, THIS WAS BROUGHT INTO THE CITY BY SHREWD BUSINESS.
UM, AND AT THIS POINT THIS GENTLEMAN HAS SEEN CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW, WALK OUT, YOU KNOW, I LIKE, UH, A PARTICULAR TYPE OF RUM THAT THEY DIDN'T SELL, LIKE FREEWAY LIQUOR OR ANYWHERE IN WEST COVINA.
I HAD TO DRIVE OUT TO UPLAND 'CAUSE IT WAS A LADIN TYPE OF RUM.
TOLD THE GUY FREEWAY LIQUOR, HEY, IF YOU HAVE THIS ROOM, I WOULD COME AND BUY IT FROM YOU.
A COUPLE MONTHS LATER, YOU STARTED STALKING IT.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY ADDITIONAL CRIME.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY ADDITIONAL DRUNKEN DRIVING FROM THIS.
MAY I HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER CARD, MR. G? GOOD EVENING.
AS A PERSON WHO'S NEVER BOUGHT BEER OR ALCOHOL AT A CONVENIENCE STORE BUT HAS, HAS DRANK 40 YEAR OLD SCOTCH, I'M FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS.
AS THE MAN SAID, HE'S BEEN DOING BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY.
I REMEMBER WHEN THERE WAS ONLY TWO SEVEN ELEVENS IN THE CITY OF WEST CAMINO.
OUR BROTHER WORKED AT ONE OF THEM AS A 16 YEAR OLD KID.
AND I DO REMEMBER IN THE EIGHTIES, WHEN AM P M SWITCHED OVER BECAUSE OF THE LAW AND STARTED SELLING ALCOHOL.
WE GO TO A GAS STATION, HE ON, I'M GONNA GO BUY SOME ALCOHOL.
WE GOTTA GO TO THE LIQUOR STORE.
I BOUGHT IN LIQUOR AND PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THE CITY, STATE, AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS SANCTIONED ALCOHOL, VERY INCONVENIENCE.
IT'S THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S NOT THE CITY COUNCIL TO TELL ME TO BE MY SITTER.
WHEN PEOPLE TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND ACT NOBLE AND PROVIDE A BUSINESS, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA MAKE WEST COVINA A BETTER CITY.
PRO PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT TO COMPARE US TO LA THE VAST MAJORITY WHO PEOPLE WHO MOVED HERE BACK IN THE 50, 60, 70, 40 YEARS AGO LEFT LA THAT'S TRUE.
THEY LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
SOME OF YOU WORK IN THE SEA OF LOS ANGELES, A LOT OF CITIZENS DO, BUT IT'S ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES AND THE CONVENIENCE.
YES, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE HAD A BUNCH OF RESTAURANT ROWS WHERE WE SAT DOWN, BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
WHERE I DON'T EVEN LEAVE MY HOUSE TO DO BANKING, GROCERY SHOPPING, PURCHASE ALCOHOL.
SO, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THEY HAVE THE PEOPLE DO DO IT ONLINE.
SO PEOPLE GO OUT AND INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THEY SEE SOMEBODY IN THE CONVENIENCE STORE WHO'S BUYING GUM OR GETTING GAS.
THAT'S WHAT BUILDS A COMMUNITY AND THEY CARE.
IT'S ABOUT WEST COVINA OR CITIZENS.
THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THE PHYSICAL ASPECTS OF THE SHAPE OF THE EYES OR HOW THE SUN REFLECTS OFF THEIR SKIN.
THEY HOLD, THEY KNOW IF THEY'RE CITIZENS OF WEST COMMUNITY, THEY HOLD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD.
A HIGHER QUALITY OF PRINCIPLES AND VALUES FOR FAMILIES.
SO BUSINESS IS WHAT HELPS THIS COMMUNITY GROW WITH BUSINESS.
WE'RE BRINGING IN TAXES TO DO THE PROGRAMS, TO PAY FOR THE BANDS TO PAY FOR HOUSING.
LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING UP THERE IN THE OLD SCHOOL, RIGHT THERE ON, WAS IT VINCENT AND
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WORKMAN? HELPING PEOPLE DO THAT? SO IT'S ABOUT THE FAMILY AND BUSINESS.'CAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COUNCILMEN WEREN'T SERVANT.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS CITY GREAT.
IF YOU WANT TO RETURN TO A QUALITY CITY, BE PRO-BUSINESS, NOT PRO ISSUE.
I HAVE THREE SPEAKER CARDS FOR THOSE OPPOSED, A OPPOSED TO THAT? YES, CAN MOVE ON.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS SHARD SHAZER, FOLLOWED BY JD, FOLLOWED BY MR. BENNETT.
I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS, UH, PARTICULAR, UM, ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK GAS STATIONS SHOULD BE SELLING LIQUOR PERIOD ANYWHERE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA OR ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO I'M VERY OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
FIRST, COMBINING THE SALE OF GASOLINE AND ALCOHOL IN ONE LOCATION COULD INCREASE THE RISK OF DRUNK DRIVING BY HAVING EASY ACCESS TO LIQUOR.
AT GAS STATIONS, INDIVIDUALS MAY BE MORE LIKELY TO CONSUME ALCOHOL AND THEN GET BEHIND THE WHEEL.
THIS POSES A SERIOUS THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND COULD LEAD TO AN INCREASE IN ALCOHOL RELATED ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES.
FURTHERMORE, A WIDE RANGE OF PEOPLE VISIT GAS STATIONS, INCLUDING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
THE PRESENCE OF ALCOHOL IN THESE ESTABLISHMENTS COULD POSE EXPOSED YOUNG AND IMPRESSIONABLE INDIVIDUALS TO THE NORMALIZATION OF ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.
THIS WOULD INADVERTENTLY CONTRIBUTE UNDERAGE DRINKING AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF UNHEALTHY HABITS AT AN EARLY AGE.
ALSO, GAS STATIONS ARE OFTEN
LIQUOR STORES, THIS EXTENDED AVAILABILITY OF ALCOHOL POTENTIALLY LEAD TO AN INCREASE IN ALCOHOL RELATED INCIDENTS.
COULD LATE HOURS WHEN SUPERVISION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT MAY BE LIMITED.
THIS POSES A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR MAINTAINING PUBLIC ORDER AND SAFETY.
HAVING READILY AVAILABLE AT GAS STATIONS MAY ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO AN INCREASE IN ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.
OVERALL, CONVENIENCE AND ACCESSIBILITY OF ALCOHOL SALES AT GAS STATIONS COULD LEAD TO IMPULSE BUYING AND POTENTIALLY ENCOURAGE EXCESSIVE DRINKING.
THIS IN TURN CAN HAVE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON INDIVIDUALS PHYSICAL AND MENTAL WELLBEING BY OFFERING A ONE STOP SHOP FOR FUEL AND ALCOHOL.
GAS STATIONS MAY DRAW CUSTOMERS AWAY FROM INDEPENDENT LIQUOR STORES, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE, AND IT'S GONNA AFFECT THEIR BOTTOM LINE.
AND IT WOULD NEGATIVELY, THEY WOULD BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.
THESE LOCAL BUSINESSES WOULD BE AT A DISADVANTAGE, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO SOME JOB LOSSES AND ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS FOR THESE COMMUNITIES.
IN CONCLUSION, YOUR NO VOTE WOULD DIMINISH THE CONCERNS OVER PUBLIC SAFETY.
ELIMINATE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE INFLUENCES ON YOUNG INDIVIDUALS, MAINTAIN ORDER DURING EXTENDED HOURS, DIMINISH PUBLIC HEALTH CONSIDERATIONS AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON LOCAL BUSINESSES.
14,000 ALCOHOL RELATED DEATHS OCCUR.
LAST INFORMATION I HAD WAS IN 2021.
LET'S NOT ADD TO THEM BY ALLOWING THIS AGENDA ITEM TO MOVE FORWARD.
I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT IF YOU'VE BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE PETITIONER FINANCIALLY FOR YOUR RUN ELECTIONS, YOU PLEASE RECUSE OF YOURSELF FROM THIS PARTICULAR VOTE.
UM, ALSO JUST TO
AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS RESPECT THEM AND I DON'T THINK THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR MIND.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE PRO LIVE IN THE CITY OF GUS COVINA.
UM, I KNEW I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING.
NOW WHAT'S CHANGED? I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT GENTLEMAN THAT OWNS THE, UH, GAS STATION IS IN FAVOR.
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ARE IN FAVOR.I AM SORT OF IN FAVOR AS A FREE MARKET CAPITALIST.
I VERY MUCH WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT TAKE PLACE.
HOWEVER, I HAVE TO ASK MYSELF AND CONSEQUENTLY ASK COUNSEL, WHAT'S CHANGED? WE HAVE MORE HOMELESS, MORE CRIME THAN THE PREVIOUS FIVE TIMES THAT IT WAS VOTED DOWN.
WERE YOU FICKLE THEN? WERE YOU GOING TO BE FICKLED TONIGHT AND CHANGE YOUR MIND? LET RO YOU SAID YOU WERE 50 50.
BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE CITY? WHY IS IT THAT YOU VOTED IT DOWN BEFORE THAT WOULD NOW YOU FEEL SO INCLINED TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT? IF YOU DO, IT'S CERTAINLY YOUR CALL.
BUT I THINK YOU OWE THOSE THAT OPPOSE IT.
A REASON FOR WHY YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN FLIPPED.
YAY, WITHOUT TELLING US HOW THIS HAS CHANGED.
THESE CHANGES THAT CAME TO YOU TONIGHT, YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO EXPLORE THE CONSEQUENCES, THE PROS AND NEGATIVES OF THEM.
THAT WAS CITY PLANNING'S, COMMISSION'S JOB.
THEY TOSSED IT OVER TO YOU FOLKS, AND I CAN BET NONE OF YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH IT ON A LEVEL OF A COMMISSION AND EXPLORED THE POSSIBILITIES, CONSEQUENCES.
THAT'S THEIR JOB PLANNING COMMISSION.
BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS DECISION TONIGHT, I THINK YOU NEED TO KICK THIS FOOTBALL BACK TO THEM.
YOU'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, MR. WOO.
I THINK YOU NEED TO DO IT TONIGHT.
YOU NEED TO KICK IT BACK TO THEM AND TELL 'EM NO.
YOU GO THROUGH THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THESE SUGGESTIONS, PUT IT DOWN ON BLACK AND WHITE, SEND IT UP TO US, AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHETHER WE'LL PASS IT.
MAYBE THEN WE'LL HAVE JUSTIFICATION FOR CHANGING OUR MINDS FROM VOTING IT DOWN.
NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, NOT THREE TIMES, FIVE TIMES.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE FICKLED AND FLIP TONIGHT, PLEASE AT THE DECENCY TO EXPLAIN TO THOSE THAT HAVE SPENT THEIR TIME TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND OPPOSE IT IN THE PAST AS WELL AS TONIGHT.
AND GIVE THEM A RHYME AND A REASON FOR YOUR DECISION.
IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE TO SPEAK AT YOU.
UH, I, I MISSED AT THE START OF THE MEETING WHAT DATE IT WAS.
I MEAN, GROUNDHOG DAY, RIGHT? WE'RE DOING THIS AGAIN FOR THE FIFTH TIME.
I MEAN, WE EVEN GOT PXI BILL DOWN HERE IN THE FRONT ROW.
SO I MEAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS IS THE FIFTH TIME JD JUST ALLUDED TO IT FOUR PREVIOUS TIMES.
FOUR PREVIOUS TIMES YOU GUYS VOTED.
NO, NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF YOU.
THE ONLY TWO UP HERE WHO HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT BEFORE IS COUNCILMAN CONTOS AND MAYOR DIAZ.
THEY WEREN'T ON THE COUNCIL THE LAST TIME.
BUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD IS ALL FIVE OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS DID NOT WANNA APPROVE THIS.
ALL FIVE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO NOT APPROVE THIS UNTIL MAYOR, YOUR COUNCIL OR YOUR COMMISSIONER SAID, I DON'T WANNA MAKE THE BUSINESS OWNER PAY TO APPEAL IT.
SO LET'S JUST KICK THE FOOTBALL DOWN THE ROAD AND LET'S LET THE COUNCIL DEAL WITH THIS.
BUT HERE, HERE'S SOME THINGS WE DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD DO.
BUT IF YOU DO, HERE'S SOME OF OUR THINGS THAT WE WANT YOU TO DO.
SO, A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, LONGTIME FRIEND OF MINE, USED TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND SPEAK AGAINST THIS.
HIS NAME WAS FORREST WILKINS, FORMER SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, LONGTIME FRIEND OF MINE.
I'VE KNOWN HIM SINCE I WAS A LITTLE TINY CHILD.
AND HE USED TO COME UP HERE AND SAY JOKES.
AND SO, MR. WU, YOU REMEMBER MR. WILKINS WHO COME UP HERE, UH, I HAVE A JOKE FOR YOU GUYS.
A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WAS ASKED ABOUT HIS POLICY ON BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR.
HE ANSWERED, IF YOU MEAN THAT DEMON DRINK THAT POISONS THE BODY AND RUINS THE MIND, DESTROYS FAMILIES AND CREEDS, CRIMINALS, THEN I'M AGAINST IT.
BUT IF YOU MEAN THAT BEAUTIFUL DRINK USED FOR WEDDING TOAST, THE FOUNDATION OF FUN FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE BIGGEST SOURCES OF TAX REVENUE TO THIS FUND, THE CITY'S PROGRAMS THAT I'M ALL FOR IT AND I WON'T CHANGE MY MIND NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TONIGHT.
WHICH SIDE OF THIS ARE YOU ON? WHICH SIDE OF THAT JOKE ARE YOU ON? AND THAT IT WAS, YOU SHOULD HAVE LAUGHED, TONY.
IT'S KIND OF DIRECTED FOR YOU.
UM, IN, IN HONOR OF MR. WILKINS.
YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT FROM STAFF THAT THIS ORDINANCE WAS PUT INTO PLACE IN THE SEVENTIES.
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THAT'S TRUE.THE STATE THEN CHANGED THE LAW.
AND ANY CITY THAT DID NOT HAVE THIS ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS AUTOMATICALLY HAD TO ABIDE BY STATE LAW.
BUT THOSE CITIES LIKE US WHO DID DO SOMETHING ARE GRANDFATHERED, WERE ALLOWED TO KEEP THAT ORDINANCE IN PLAY.
WELL, BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO DO IT.
THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT SERVICE STATIONS.
WELL, IT'S HARD TO DRIVE WHEN THE CAR'S IN FOR SERVICE.
SO I GUESS DRUNK DRIVING WAS A LITTLE BIT OF LESS OF AN ISSUE.
BUT THE ANSWER TONIGHT IS WHY DO WE WANT TO CHANGE IT? JD ASKED THAT QUESTION.
WHAT'S DIFFERENT CRIME'S? HIGHER HOMELESS IS HIGHER.
ALL OF THE ISSUES, ALL OF THE COMPONENTS ARE HIGHER IN THIS CITY THAT SAY, NO, THIS IS A BAD DECISION.
WE CAN TRY TO TWIST WORDS TONY, AND ASK QUESTIONS OR EVEN PUT INTO THE CAPTAIN ACTING CHIEF'S MOUTH.
SOME OF THE ANSWERS YOU WANT 'EM TO SAY.
BUT THE REALITY IS NOTHING HAS CHANGED FOR THE POSITIVE TO ALLOW THIS.
OF COURSE, THE BUSINESS OWNERS WANT THIS.
THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MORE MONEY.
BUT THE REALITY IS, EVEN IF THEY INCREASE THEIR SALES BY $10,000 A MONTH, $120,000 A YEAR, WE ONLY GET 10 PER WELL JUST SHY OF 10% OF THE SALES TAX.
FOR EASY MATH, IT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH, BUT THE CITY ONLY GETS 1% OF THAT.
SO WE DON'T EVEN GET THE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
BY THE TIME YOU ADD UP THE 20 THAT WROTE, REACHED THAT CONVENIENCE STORE STATUS AND MAYBE ONLY SEVEN, WE'RE TALKING NEGLIGIBLE DOLLARS TO THE CITY'S COFFERS.
ALMOST NOTHING TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY TO SUPPORT ANY OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, PAY TO PRAY BREAKFAST OR PAY TO GO TO THE CITY'S, UM, YOU KNOW, STATE OF THE CITY, WHICH MOST OF US KNOW IT'S NOT GREAT, BUT YOU'LL PUT A SPIN ON IT.
SO THE THE ANSWER REALLY IS WHAT HAS CHANGED? WHY DO WE NEED TO MAKE THIS CHANGE? WE ARE ONE OF THE LAST CITIES, IF NOT THE LAST CITY IN THIS AREA THAT HAS THIS BAN.
SO WHY DO WE NEED TO CHANGE? WE PASSED A CONDITIONAL PREVENTION OF ALLOWING USED CAR DEALERS ON THE AUTO PLAZA TO PREVENT SOMEBODY TO COME IN SO THAT ANOTHER GUY COULD TRY TO BUY THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU'RE NOT PRO-BUSINESS, YOU'RE JUST PRO-BUSINESS THAT HELPS YOU.
'CAUSE YOU, YOU PREVENTED A USED CAR DEALERSHIP IN AN AREA THAT SELLS CARS.
BUT HERE YOU WANNA ALLOW ALCOHOL WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY SELLING ALCOHOL.
I HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE NEUTRAL.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS BILL ROBINSON, FOLLOWED BY GLENN KENNEDY.
MAYOR, I'M GONNA GO TO MR. KENNEDY.
UM, WHEN I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN 2019, I VOTED FOR THIS.
AND, UH, I WILL GIVE YOU MY REASONS WHY.
UM, THIS ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY PUT IN, IT WASN'T 74, IT WAS 1977.
AND, UH, THERE'S A REASON BEHIND IT, OKAY? UM, FORMER MAYOR HAD A LIQUOR STORE AND HE WANTED TO CORNER THE MARKET.
OKAY? YOU ARE, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS OVERTURNING AN ORDINANCE.
IT'S UP TO THE A, B, C, YOU SAY SATURATION.
WELL, THE A, B, C IS THE ONE WHO WILL TELL YOU IF IT'S SATURATED OR NOT.
THEY DO IT IN A SQUARE MILE OR LIKE A SQUARE, UH, NOT A SQUARE, BUT A CIRCLE.
AND IF THERE'S ENOUGH, IF THERE'S TOO MANY BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ALCOHOL LICENSE, YOU DON'T GET ONE.
NOT ONLY THAT, THEY HAVE TO PASS IT.
THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A C U P.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GONNA GET ANYTHING.
I, I, I MEAN, THIS THING IS, EVERY OTHER CITY SELLS IT ALL AND ALL.
IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE AGAINST IT, SAME PEOPLE FOR IT.
ALL I'VE EVER HEARD IS, OH, A CAR'S GONNA CRASH INTO THE GAS STATION.
WELL, I'VE NEVER SEEN A GAS STATION BLOW UP, HAVE YOU? SO, I, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK THIS ORDINANCE NEEDED TO GO A LONG TIME AGO.
REMEMBER, THE GAS STATIONS NOW ARE CONVENIENCE STORES.
AT ONE TIME, THEY WERE SERVICE BASED.
THE OLD DAYS, THEY USED TO BRING OUT THE TIRES.
IF YOU BROKE DOWN, YOU FIX YOUR CAR.
BUT THOSE ARE DAYS ARE LONG GONE.
AND, AND THEY'RE ALL CONVENIENCE STORES, SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COMPETE.
AND, AND HE SAID YOU, IT'S BEEN VOTED DOWN FOUR TIMES.
NO, LAST TIME YOU TABLED IT, YOU, NOBODY HERE HAS VOTED ON IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, AND HAVE A NICE EVENING.
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WE, WE, WE'LL SAY THAT WAS NOT A NEUTRALIT WAS MARKED NEUTRAL ON THE CARD.
IT'S VERY NEUTRAL WHY I VOTED.
UM, MAYOR, I ALSO HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT SHE COULD FILL OUT A CARD TO GIVE HER COMMENT.
UM, MS. JERRY PATRAS IS IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE ORDINANCE AS IS, AS OPPOSED TO ALLOWING THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AT SERVICE STATIONS AND WOULD SUPPORT HAVING RESIDENTS VOTE ON THE ISSUE.
AND I HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
NOW, COUNSEL, UH, NOW WE, UH, WOULD, COULD ALLOW THE NEED APPLICANT TO REBUT IF NECESSARY.
OKAY? IF HE WISHES TO APPLICANT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO REBUT, REBUT? NO.
WELL, YOU WANNA REBUT ALL I CAN ASK FOR WHATEVER THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, THINK IS RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE TO HELP THE CITY.
I HEAR A LOT OF NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
I SEE A LOT OF POSITIVE COMMENTS, BUT I SEE THEY MA THEY MAKE HIM, UH, COMMENT.
I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE MORE MONEY.
JUST PUT THEM THIS, TELL THEM.
AND REMEMBER, THE GAS STATION PAYS THE MOST INCOME FOR A CITY RIGHT NOW.
USED TO BE USED CAR, I MEAN, NEW CAR PLACES.
NOW, THE GAS STATION, GIVE THE CITY, AND I MEAN THE STATE MOST BENEFIT, BENEFIT OF EV, ALL THE, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
AND THE FIRST THING I WANNA SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL BE CLOSING THE PU PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, WE NEVER VOTE ON THIS.
OKAY? LAST TIME I HEARD THIS, OKAY? THIS 2019, AND, UH, WE THREE, TWO, TABLE IT.
SO WE NEVER VOTE, OKAY? AS A ALMOST EIGHT YEAR TO NOVEMBER, I NEVER VOTE ON THIS, OKAY? UH, ALCOHOL OR GAS STATION ORDINANCE.
OKAY? SUPPOSEDLY TABLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY.
AND I REMEMBER 2019 WHEN THEY, WHEN IT CAME TO US, IT'S FIVE ZERO APPROVED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND WANT US TO APPROVE.
BY THAT TIME, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF, UH, INFORMATION.
SO WE WANT TO GET TABLEWARES TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE POLICE AND THE, A LOT OF ISSUE REGARDING FROM OUR PLANNING MANAGER, EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATION OUTSIDE? IT'S DISRUPTIVE.
OKAY? SO, SO, SO ANYWAY, SO, SO RIGHT NOW, LAST TIME WE ASKING ABOUT HOW MANY GAS STATION WE
UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER, BUT THIS, THIS TIME WE HAVE AND PLUS, OKAY? PLUS THIS TIME, WE HAVE ALL THIS DETAIL RE REGARDING H C T COMPARISON WITH HOW MANY OFFSITE LICENSE, OKAY? AND FOR ALL THIS SELLING ALCOHOL AND HOW MANY GAS STATION.
SO BASED ON ALL THIS DETAIL INFORMATION THAT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN 2019, AND WE REQUEST THE DETAIL THIS TIME, FINALLY, WE HAVE A COMPARISON AND DETAIL AND PLUS, OKAY, WE GOT A POLICE INFORMATION.
OKAY? SO LET'S HOW WE CAN BASED ON THIS, AND WE VOTE FOR WITHOUT CONSCIENCE ABOUT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
SO WE, IF YOU GO TO SEE BASED ON NUMBER OF SIGN LICENSE, WEST COVINA, CURRENTLY IN ST.
GABRIEL VALLEY, THE SECOND BIGGEST CITY, AND WE ARE MORE POPULATION THAN EL MONTE NOW BASED ON 2020 CENSUS.
BUT LOOK AT, EL MONTE HAS A 69 OFF SITE, OKAY? AND, UH, AND SELLING ALCOHOL.
AND THEY ONLY HAVE A GAS STATION LICENSE.
AND WE, WE, AGAIN, WE 46, WE ARE ABOVE SAME SIZE, OKAY? OR PASADENA, WHERE THEY ARE 135, WE ARE ALMOST 120.
SO COMPARED WITH THAT, THE GAS STATION IS ONLY SIX.
SO SEEM LIKE THE PASADENA HAS A LOT OF GAS STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE, BUT NOT EVERYBODY WANT TO APPLY, OKAY? OR THEY CAN GET APPROVAL.
THE APPROVAL IS FROM THE A, B, C.
THE APPROVAL IS NOT FROM WEST COVINA CITY.
WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A JURISDICTION TO ALLOW THEM TO SELL
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ALCOHOL.WE, WE ALLOW THEM TO GO TO C C O P AND GO TO A B, C THAT APPLY.
AND APPROVAL IS SUBJECT TO A, B, C APPROVAL BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC.
OKAY? AND GEOGRAPHIC ABOUT HOW MANY SATURATE AND ALL THE, ALL THOSE INFORMATION INSPECTION IS FROM THE A, B, C, OKAY? ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE CONTROL, NOT FROM THE CITY.
SO ANYWAY, SO BASED ON THAT, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE NOT IN THE HIGHEST NUMBER.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, OKAY, THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, A LOT OF GAS STATION.
OKAY? LIKE TONS OF DENT SELLING BILL, WINE.
SO MANY, THEY ALLOW THEM TO DO IT.
SO THEY STILL HAVE TO GO TO WHO HUB.
SO NOT EVERYBODY WANT TO APPLY, BUT IF THEY APPLY, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO TO VERY, VERY RESTRICTED OKAY? APPROVALS.
SO I THINK IF WE, OKAY, GIVE ALL THIS, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO C U P, AT LEAST WE GIVE THEM A CHANCE.
OKAY? LIKE, UH, OUR OLD TIME RESIDENT, GLEN KENNEDY, TALKING ABOUT THE REASON THEY SAID THIS ORDINANCE, BECAUSE THAT TIMES MAYOR HAS, UH, WANT TO MONOPOLIZE ABOUT HIS SELLING SO THAT HE DOESN'T ALLOW.
BUT I DON'T KNOW TRUE OR NOT, BUT BASICALLY THIS IS A LONG TIME AGO, OKAY? AND ALL THE GAS STATION RIGHT NOW IS ALL CONVENIENCE STORE, OKAY? THAT AND THE HUGE, OKAY, IT'S LIKE 7 11 1 NEXT TO THE PLACE I LIVE AT THE CORNER OF CITRUS.
AND TELL YOU THE TRUTH IS MOST OF GAS STATION IN WEST COWE NEXT DOOR IS A LIQUOR STORE.
OKAY? THEY HAVE, UH, ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE JUST RIGHT ON THE CORNER SO PEOPLE CAN OKAY.
DO THE SAME THING, OKAY? GO INTO A LIQUOR STORE TO BUY ANYTHING THEY WANT.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GAS STATION WITH SEVEN 11, THEY BASICALLY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SELL THE BASIC BEER OF WINE.
THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL HOT LIQUOR BECAUSE THERE'S A TITLE 47 VERY DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN, OKAY? A, B, C WON'T GIVE TO YOU BASED ON POPULATION.
AND THE BEER OF WINE IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER, BUT THEY STILL HAVE A RESTRICTION.
SO IN THAT WAY, THE CONTROL IS BY THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
IT'S NOT BY OUR, OUR, OUR RE OUR CITY JURISDICTION.
BUT WE ALLOW THEM, BASICALLY, IT'S A, IT IS A CHANGE OF ORDINANCE.
ALLOW THEM TO APPLY BASED ON THE C O P.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, OKAY? AND, UH, NO, NO, NO, I CAN MAKE MOTIONS.
WELL SEE IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE MOTIONS ARE MADE.
AND ATTORNEY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION.
SECOND, PUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND THEN DELIBERATE.
SO I STILL, YOU CAN MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION AFTER THAT.
YEAH, I CAN STILL MAKE A MOTION AND HE CAN STILL ARGUE.
OKAY? AND THEN, THEN IF I GET A SECOND, THEN WE GO TO VOTE.
IF I DON'T GET A SECOND, THEN HE DIE.
SO, SO I WANT TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION, UH, BASICALLY TO, OKAY, ALLOW THE C U P FOR THE GAS STATION TO SELL, OKAY? BILL O ONE.
BUT I HAVE TO GO TO THE C O P, BUT I WANT TO DELETE, NO PAYPHONE SHOULD BE PERMITTED.
I DON'T THINK WE EVEN HAVE A PAYPHONE RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS IS, UH, KIND OF RIDICULOUS.
OKAY? NO, PAYPHONE SHOULD BE P PERMITTED ON THE EVEN WHAT YOU WANNA REQUEST INTO A PAYPHONE.
SO, SO THIS ONE SHOULD BE ELIMINATE, OKAY? UH, NO COIN OPERATE.
YOU JUST SAY, SAID ALREADY LIKE A VIDEO GAME THAT'S NOT EXISTING IN THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
AND THEN REGARDING 2000, OKAY, I THINK THIS SHOULD BE GAVE EVERYBODY A FAILED CHANCE.
IT'S BASICALLY EVERYBODY CAN APPLY THROUGH A, B, C, A, C, O, P, AND A, B, C.
SO MEANING EVEN OUR C O P IS PRETTY STRICT, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO A, B, C, THE A, B, C GET EVEN MORE RESTRICTED PER THEIR INFORMATION.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THOSE INFORMATION.
A, B, C HAVE THOSE INFORMATION REGARDING HOW SATURATED, HOW THEY APPROVE IT.
SO, SO BASICALLY, AND PLUS I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE, UH, WITH, UH, OKAY, UH, COUNCILMAN KENTO REGARDING A FLOOD CAMERA.
SO WE NEED TO PUT A CONDITION, OKAY? AND THE C U P, THEY NEED TO INSTALL, OKAY? THE, AND THE PAY BY THE GAS STATION OWNER TO PUT A FLOOD CAMERA, OKAY? AND, UH, WITH THAT, AND PAY BY THEM AND CENTRALIZED GOING TO, OKAY.
ANY OTHER CITY AND OUR DISPATCHER, SO THEY CAN OKAY.
WITH THE GET SENT ANY STOLEN CAR EQUIPMENT? NO, THEY WILL STOLEN CAR, WANT TO COMMIT CRIME IN OUR CITY.
OKAY? THE LICENSE WILL BE SCANNED.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN PREVENT CRIME COMMITTED IN OUR CITY.
SO BASICALLY, THIS IS MY MOTION, BASICALLY.
AND ALLOW THEM TO GO TO C U P AND GO TO A, B, C TO APPLY AND DELETE OKAY? NO PAYPHONE THING.
AND DELETE THE 2000 SQUARE FEET.
ANY CO CONVENIENCE STORE, THEY ALL CAN APPLY THROUGH C U P.
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UH, A, B, C.AND THEY MUST INSTALL OKAY, THE, THE FLOCK CAMERA.
UH, FIRST OFF, UM, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT ONE MORE TIME.
IF WE HAVE A MOTION, LET'S GET A SECOND AND GET THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.
SO, SO FIRST, AS, AS WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THIS MOTION, UH, ON PAGE ONE OF THE REPORT, WHICH, WHICH I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH, THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP WAS 2020.
UH, AND, AND EVERYONE, UH, WHO WAS HERE KNOWS THAT ALL THIS INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE.
I, I WALKED DISTRICT ONE AND DISCUSS THIS FROM THE, MY PUBLIC COMMENT AT LEAST THREE TIMES ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
UM, SO IT IS CONCERNING THAT, UM, WE, WE AREN'T RECALLING THAT CONVERSATION AT THAT TIME.
UM, DISTRICT ONE IS, IS THE DISTRICT THAT IS, IS MOST CONCENTRATED WITH ALCOHOL, UH, AND ALSO HAS THE, AS WE HEARD, UM, MERCED, WHERE I DO PUT MY GAS AND I DO WASH MY CAR AT THAT CHEVRON, UM, ALSO HAS THE, THE MOST GAS STATIONS THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE, UH, THE BEER AND WINE.
UH, SO THAT'S, UM, ONE CONCERN IS I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW CLOSELY, UM, UH, WE, WE READ THIS REPORT, UM, BECAUSE THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A MISTAKE THAT THAT SHOULDN'T BE MADE.
UH, FORMER COUNCILMAN LLOYD JOHNSON IS THE ONE WHO DID A MOTHER MAY I, AND THEN IT CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S TO SET THAT RECORD STRAIGHT.
UM, THE NEXT, UH, POINT TO BE MADE ON THIS ITEM IS WE JUST RECENTLY PUT OUT A MORATORIUM ON DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS.
UH, AND SO I, I, I'M NOT SEEING THE CONSISTENCY WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING, WELL, THERE'S A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH TO, TO GET THESE ALCOHOL.
WHILE WE HAD A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH TO GET A DRIVE THROUGH.
AND WE SAID, AS A COUNCIL, NO, WE WANT TO, TO PUT A MORATORIUM BECAUSE OF THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE FAST FOOD AND THE CONCENTRATION OF FAST FOOD.
WELL, HERE AGAIN, THIS, THIS, THIS MOTION IS, IS GOING TO PUT, YOU KNOW, ADD A CONCENTRATION OF ALCOHOL, UH, AND WE ALREADY HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
SO THIS WOULDN'T ACTUALLY REQUIRE A CHANGE.
IT WOULD JUST REQUIRE US TO CONTINUE WITH, WITH THE WAY WE HAVE ALWAYS GONE.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE, THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT THERE, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A, A COMMUNITY OUTCRY FOR THIS ORDINANCE TO CHANGE AGAIN, UH, EVERY YEAR.
AND, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND FROM THE BUSINESS OWNER WHY, WHY THEY WOULD WANT IT, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN CALLED ON BY THE COMMUNITY TO CHANGE IT.
UH, AND SO AGAIN, I JUST, THE, THE RATIONALE OF THIS COUNCIL IN THE PAST HAS, HAS BEEN TO, UM, EITHER PUT MORATORIUMS OR MAKE LAND USE CHANGES BASED ON THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE, WE'VE INVOLVED OURSELVES.
WE, WE AREN'T, UH, THIS, THIS FREE MARKET CO COMPETITIVE, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST OPEN IT UP, LIBERTARIAN STYLE.
WE, WE HAD A DEVELOPER WHO WANTED TO DO A GREEN DEVELOPMENT ON MERCED, WANTED NO GAS, WANTED TO DO FULL SOLAR.
THAT WAS THE DEVELOPER SAYING, WE SEE A MARKET FOR THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA SELL.
THIS COUNCIL FORCED THEM TO PUT GAS, TO PUT GAS LINES, UM, IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
SO I, I THINK AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING A RATIONALE THAT DOESN'T MATCH WITH THE ACTIONS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE IN THE PAST, RIGHT? THIS, THIS RATIONALE THAT WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A FAIR CHANCE.
WE WANT, UH, I THINK A, A RESIDENT BROUGHT UP THE USED CAR SALES.
WE, WE HAD, UH, A CAR DEALERSHIP THAT HAD A DEAL WITH NATIONAL WANTED A TO PUT A USED CAR DEALERSHIP THERE, WHICH WAS EVERY WHITE.
AND WHAT DID WE DO? WE CHANGED THE, THE LAND USE.
SO ONLY ALLOW FOR NEW CARS THERE.
WHEN AMAZON WANTED TO COME IN, WE CHANGED THE LAND USE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, UM, BECAUSE THE RATIONALE THAT'S BEING USED IS NOT CONSISTENT, WHAT WE, WE'VE DONE AS A COUNCIL, UH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T FIND IT COMPELLING.
UH, I, IT DOESN'T MATCH WITH, WITH OUR ACTIONS.
UH, AND SO I'M, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST
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THIS MOTION.UH, I THINK THIS, THIS IDEA TOO, TO EXCHANGE SURVEILLANCE FOR MORE ALCOHOL.
UM, I, I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T FIND THAT, UH, AS GOOD POLICY THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA ALLOW INCREASED ALCOHOL SALES WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO KNOW THAT ALCOHOL AND INCREASED ALCOHOL USE DOES CAUSE MORE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, MORE VIOLENCE, I, I MEAN THAT, THAT IS NON DEBATABLE.
UH, AND SO TO KIND OF MAKE THIS ARGUMENT, WELL, NOW WE'LL HAVE MORE FLOCK CAMERAS, SO IT'LL MAKE US SAFER BY SELLING MORE ALCOHOL.
UM, IT JUST IS NOT A COMPELLING ARGUMENT.
AND, UH, I AM COMPLETELY A AGAINST THIS MOTION FOR THE CHANGE.
UH, AND, AND AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER, IT WAS, IT WAS 2020, UH, WHEN THIS CAME, UM, BEFORE US, OR NOT BEFORE ME.
I WAS NOT ELECTED YET, BUT I WAS ELECTED BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
SO THE FEARS THAT THESE RESIDENTS HAVE ABOUT ALCOHOL SELLING AT GAS STATION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OFF SALE ANYWAY ANYWAYS AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
UM, IF THIS DOES BECOME AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE, WHAT CAN THE CITY DO IN THIS? I MEAN, I'M, I'M THINKING THIS IN GENERAL, UM, THAT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, APPLIES TO LIQUOR STORES AND EVERYTHING.
UM, I THINK JOANNE CAN ADD TO IT, MAYBE TO CORTINA, BUT, UM, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, HAS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TIED WITH IT, AND THEY'VE, THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH THOSE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, THEN WE CAN REVOKE THAT C U P, UM, ALSO A B C LICENSE, UM, IF THEY'RE VIOLATING OR, OR NOT, UM, FOLLOWING THE LAWS FOR SELLING ALCOHOL OFF SALE, THEN THEY, THAT LICENSE, I BELIEVE, CAN ALSO BE REVOKED, UM, IF IT BECOMES, I BELIEVE, LIKE A NUISANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, I, THE STATISTICS, I DON'T KNOW IF TONY'S STILL HERE OR ACTING
UM, GETTING THE CRIME STATISTICS FOR OFF SALE IS A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER THAN ON SALE AS RESTAURANTS OR BARS.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD TIE IT SPECIFICALLY TO AN OFF SALE LOCATION.
WELL, OFFSITE, I MEAN, IN GENERAL, MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY PURCHASE OFFSITE, THEY, AND IF IT'S PURCHASED AS, YOU KNOW, AS A BULK LIKE MENTIONED, UM, THAT THEY NORMALLY TAKE IT HOME OR TAKE IT TO A PARTY THAT THEY GO TO ON THEIR WAY.
SO I, I KNOW THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S SO, THE PERCENTAGE IS LOW, UM, INSTEAD OF DRINKING AT THE BAR.
UM, AND, UH, I JUST, SO, I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR SO WE CAN REVOKE.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA ASK MY STANCE, AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, IF YOU WATCH THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, YOU COULD HEAR EVERYTHING THAT I'VE MENTIONED.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WEST COVINA IS KNOWN TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND, UM, FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS, AND I, YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY HEAR 2020, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE ONE, IT WAS INITIATED IN 2008.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, THE SAME BUSINESS HAS COME MULTIPLE TIMES.
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT YEARS PRIOR TO, PRIOR TO ME BEING IN COUNCIL.
AND I'M SURE EVEN WHEN I LEAVE, UM, IF THIS GETS VOTED DOWN, IT'S STILL GONNA CONTINUE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, BECAUSE WE ARE BUSINESS FRIENDLY, I DO WANNA GIVE IT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUSINESS TO ALLOW THIS WITH RESTRICTIONS, UM, AND HIGH STANDARDS, UM, THE PROPOSED CHANGES, THOSE WERE, THESE CHANGES WERE MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER, CORRECT? LIKE ALL THESE CHANGES, LIKE WHAT IS THE 2019 19 PLANNING COMMISSIONER? THE STANDARDS ARE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? NO, THE MAXIMUM, LIKE MAXIMUM, THE C P, THE C U P CONDITION, BEER, WINE DISPLAYED WITHIN FIVE FEET OF CASH REGISTER FUND, LIKE THE VERY DETAILS 19 MM-HMM.
UH, PLANNING COMMITTEE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER APPROVED.
WITH ALL THIS RESTRICTION, THEY INCLUDING NO.
AND THEN THAT'S HOW THEY WANT TO, OKAY.
AND THE PAYPHONE, AND NOW WE STILL SEE THE PAYPHONE BECAUSE THE TIME WE ALWAYS SAY, BUT AGAIN, THAT TIME WE TABLE IT, WE WANT TO OKAY.
PLANNING AND THE POLICE TO GIVE US MORE INFORMA INFORMATION AND BRING BACK TO US.
SO, AND THE IS, SO THIS IS FROM THE 2019.
AND THE, THE VOTE IS 2019 BEFORE
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THE ELECTION.AND, UH, THAT IS HOW WE TABLE IT.
AND I, AND I DO RECALL, UH, RECALL THAT PLANNING COMMISSIONER DID THOROUGHLY DID THEIR RESEARCH, DID BRING A LOT OF THINGS.
'CAUSE I DID MY RESEARCH BACK THEN, AND IT WENT HAND IN HAND.
LIKE I'M READING EVERYTHING AND, YOU KNOW, IT DOES GO, UH, HAND IN HAND.
AND, UM, THE STIPULATIONS AND REQUIREMENT AND RESTRICTIONS ARE AT HIGH STANDARDS.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S KEPT THAT WAY TO A HIGH STANDARD.
UM, AS FOR THE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THE INSTALLATION, THE C C T SURVEILLANCE, UM, THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH CRIME REDUCTION AND EVERYTHING.
AND I, AND I COULD ATTEST TO THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT, IT JUST HELPS.
NOW, THE FLOCK CAMERA, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, THAT WAS MY BABY PROJECT.
AND I, AND I ALWAYS LOVE THE CAMERA.
UM, I WISH, UH, AT MY WORK, I HAD THE FLOCK CAMERA.
I MEAN, I JUST HAD RECENT TWO MURDERS OCCUR AT MY FACILITY.
AND, AND FLOCK CAMERA COULD EASILY, THEY, THEY HAD THE VEHICLE'S, JUST THE LICENSE PLATE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS I WANNA MAKE SURE IS THAT IF THIS DOES OCCUR, THE FLOCK CAMERA IS MANDATED TO BE PART OF THIS, UM, THE FLOCK CAMERA AND THE C C T V, THE FLOCK CAMERA DOES ALSO DETER.
SO I, I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE IN, AS SOON AS THEY NOTICE THAT IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY, THEY KEEP GETTING, YOU KNOW, TAGGED, UH, A RED FLAG GETTING PULLED OVER, IT SPREADS, IT SPREADS LIKE WILDFIRE.
AND THEY'LL SAY, DO NOT GO AT THAT AREA.
AND THEY, THEY, THEY TELL FRIENDS, FAMILY DON'T GO IN THAT AREA IF THEY'RE DOING BAD, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY STIPULATION IN UM, REGARDS TO THIS.
IF THIS MOTION PASSES, I WANT TO MAKE A CO CORRECTION ON, OKAY, MAYOR PUTIN TAB TOBACCO IS CORRECT.
PRIOR TO 2020 ELECTION, WE HAVE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
SO YES, MY MISTAKE ABOUT 2019 IS 2020.
OKAY? I, I CERTAINLY, I REMEMBER THE ELECTION, WE ONLY CAN GO TO EVEN NUMBER.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, AGAIN, TO PASS THE, THE C O P C O P OF THE BASIC TO MOVE FORWARD ON JUST THIS ONE STEP.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ANOTHER PROCESS, ANOTHER STEP THAT IS OUT OF OUR HANDS, WHICH IS THE A, B, C.
AND I KNOW THAT IS DIFFICULT TO, TO GET, UH, THAT PROCESS REQUIRES A WHOLE NEW DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT.
AND I DO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN INFLUX OF ALCOHOL SALES IN A CERTAIN AREA, A, B, C WILL NOT ALLOW THAT.
SO THEY HAVE THEIR REQUIREMENTS.
SO THOUGH WE MAY PASS AT THIS LEVEL, UM, THOSE, YOU KNOW, GAS STATIONS THAT ARE RESTRICTED TO ONLY A CERTAIN AREAS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER HURDLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, HIGH STANDARDS, I UNDERSTAND LOCATIONS MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I KNOW, UM, THE, UH, ACTING CHIEF MENTION, UH, LOCATIONS AND SO FORTH, THAT HAS A BEARING.
UM, AND I'VE SEEN IT IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
AND, UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS WITH THE, UM, FLOCK CAMERA AND HAVING ALL THAT.
AND THE COUNCILMAN KENTO ALREADY SECOND.
BUT I WANT TO FOLLOW REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
BUT IF YOU SEE THE GRAPHIC, THE DETAIL, OKAY.
WE, WEST COVINA 46, LIKE I MENTIONED.
BO BOEING PARK IS ABOUT 65,000 POPULATION.
THEY, THEY ONLY ABOUT 40,000 POPULATION.
BUT THE ISSUE IS IF YOU GO TO GAS STATION, DID YOU SEE THE LITTLE SINGLE DIGIT? LITTLE SINGLE DIGIT? EVEN WE HAVE A 20 CONVENIENCE STORE.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET 20 GAS STATION SELLING BEYOND ONE.
BECAUSE IF YOU SEE PASADENA, 85 OFF SIZE SALES, LIKE OKAY, LICENSE, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE SIX GAS STATION ENTIRE CITY.
SO MEANING THEY ARE VERY RESTRICTED FROM THE A, B C I.
I, I THINK I SAW A LOT OF, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE OF, UH, GAS STATION IN PASADENA, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE SIX.
AND THEY ALLOW THEM TO GO TO THE C U P AND GO TO THE A, B, C.
SO FOR THAT, I THINK IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WANT IT, THEY CAN GET IT.
THEY STILL HAVE TO GO TO WHO HUB.
AND WE JUST ALLOW THEM TO GO TO C U P.
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GIVEN A CHANCE.A, B, C, WE SUBJECT TO A B, C APPROVAL.
SO LET'S, AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO OKAY, SAY THIS.
AND IN THAT WAY TO BE A FAIRNESS COMPARE WITH OTHER CITY.
SO, SO I MOVE THE MOTION AND WE ARE HAVE A SECOND.
UH, I'M EN ENJOYING THE, THE DISCUSSION.
UH, SO I, I GUESS, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION, UH, I, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, NOW WE WANNA ALLOW THIS, BUT WE, WE'VE PLACED A MORATORIUM ON DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS.
I, I, I, I GUESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING.
UM, SO YEAH, COUNCILMAN WU, YOU COULD OKAY.
THE REASON, IF WE GO TO, OKAY.
THE HEARING LAST TIME FROM MADAM MAYOR, LET'S STICK TO THIS TOPIC OF AMENDING THE ORDINANCE.
WELL, I, WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE RATIONALE OF THE MOTION.
I, I WANT TO QUICKLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MOST DRIVE THROUGH IN OUR, IN SAINT GABRIEL VALLEY, WE ARE THE NUMBER ONE.
OKAY? AND THERE'S A REASON RIGHT NOW, OUR GAS STATION LOOK AT, COMPARED WITH THEM, WE ONLY HAVE, OR PASADENA IN THE SAME POPULATION.
SO MEANING WE ARE NOT HIGHLY SATURATED COMPARED WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH, DRIVE THROUGH, WE, WE, THE NUMBER ONE, OKAY? AND THEN ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE ALL THE DRIVE THROUGH AND TO MOVE OUR OKAY.
SO, SO THAT IS THE, THE THING, BUT IT'S ONLY TEMPORARY MORATORIUM.
SO, SO IN THAT WAY, PEOPLE STILL CAN APPLY LATER ON.
AND WE JUST WANT TO SEE, CAN WE DIGEST THE, THE TRAFFIC.
SO ANYWAY, BUT NOW OVER HERE, LOOK AT, WE UP FOR 46 COMPARED WITH PASADENA 85 AND L MONTE 69, AND THE GAS STATION, THEY ONLY HAVE 3, 7, 4, 2, 6, 2.
SO EVEN WE APPLY, I DON'T THINK WE WILL HIT A LOT, BUT AT, AT, AT LEAST GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE.
SO, SO THEN THE, THE, THE, THE RATIONALE THEN IS THAT THE, THE AMOUNT OF LIQUOR, SALES, LIQUOR STORES THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE IT IS NOT AT A, AT, AT THE TOP.
MARK, YOU, YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE? I, I GUESS I, I'M, I'M ASKING FOR THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY.
IS IS, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR? I, I, I MEAN, WE HAVE 46 I, 46 SEEMS TO BE A, A GOOD NUMBER.
I, I, AGAIN, I HAVE NOT HAD THE COMMUNITY COME TO ME AND SAY, WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ENOUGH ALCOHOL.
AND SO AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE, UH, WHEN THE IDEA IS, WELL, WE HAVE TOO MANY DRIVE-THROUGHS 'CAUSE WE'RE NUMBER ONE, OKAY, WE'RE NUMBER ONE.
AND THAT, THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
WHY? BECAUSE, WELL, OKAY, SO WE'RE NOW, WE'RE NOT NUMBER ONE IN ALCOHOL SALES, BUT IT'S AN ISSUE 'CAUSE WE'RE TOO LOW.
I, I GUESS AGAIN, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE AND THE COMMUNITY HASN'T ASKED FOR IT.
SORRY, CAN I, CAN I FILL IN? 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST SO SILLY TO, UH, CORRELATE DRIVE-THROUGHS WITH GAS STATION SALES.
UM, SO I, I MEAN, FOR ME, IF YOU WANNA BRING IT TO CORRELATE IT WITH THAT, THEN IF THE GAS STATION IS GOING TO HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH FOR ALCOHOL SALES, AND OF COURSE I'M GONNA SAY NO TOO, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S THE DRIVE-THROUGH THAT GOES ALL THE WAY THAT CAUSES TRAFFIC.
SO, UM, AND, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I'M JUST SAYING THAT, IT'S JUST THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A HIGH ISSUE OF ALCOHOL ISSUE SALES HERE.
UM, LIKE IF YOU GO TO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE, LIKE, I DON'T EVEN LIKE LIQUOR STORES.
I'D RATHER HAVE IT AT A GAS STATION WHERE YOU GET THE, THE, UH, THE BEER AND ALCOHOL THERE THAN AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL LIQUOR STORE THAT YOU SEE, BECAUSE CITIES THAT HAVE TONS OF LIQUOR STORES, YOU KNOW, OKAY, BAD CITY.
UM, IN GENERAL, GENERALLY SPEAKING.
SO IN REGARDS TO DRIVE THROUGH AND ALCOHOL SALES AND EVERYTHING, I JUST FIND IT VERY SILLY.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE PUSHING THIS FOR ALCOHOL TO GO ALL THE WAY HIGH INCREASE ALCOHOL SALES.
NO, I MEAN, EVEN RIGHT HERE ON THEIR, THEIR LIST, THE, THE BEER OF SAILING QUANTITIES, FEWER THAN THREE CONTAINERS PROHIBITED, NO ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SHOULD BE SOLD IN UNIT QUANTITIES LESS THAN DISTRIBUTORS INTENDED RESELL UNITS.
THEY EVEN PUT NO BEER AND WINE SHALL BE DISPLAYED WITHIN FIVE FEET OF CASH REGISTER OR FRONT DOOR.
THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR BEER AND WINE SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED AT MOTOR FUEL ISLANDS.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT PROMOTING ALCOHOL.
WE'RE MAKING IT MORE CONVENIENT.
RIGHT? AND THIS IS ALSO FOR, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD TO PURCHASE THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, FOR, I I, I'M NOT EVEN A DRINKER.
LIKE I, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, IF MY FAMILY COMES OVER, I DON'T HAVE ALCOHOL IN MY HOME.
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OKAY, LEMME GO GET SOMETHING.THE STORES ARE CLOSED, YOU KNOW, I'M HAVING A REROUTE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
SO AGAIN, DRIVE-THROUGHS VERSUS THE, I I JUST DIDN'T FIND ANY CORRELATION.
JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, FOR, FOR MY PART OF THIS, THE REASON WHY I, I WANTED TO, UH, THIS IS, UM, UH, I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS IS BECAUSE THAT IS A DIFFERENT PART OF THIS.
ALL OF THIS, I, I KNOW FROM MY OWN CONSTITUENTS THAT WE, UM, THO THOSE WHO WHO BROUGHT ME INTO OFFICE ARE REALLY WANTING MORE PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THE FLOCK CAMERAS, IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE ACTING POLICE CHIEF SAID EARLIER, UH, HE SAID THAT THE FLOCK CAMERAS SIGNIFICANTLY PROMOTE THEIR ABILITY TO EN ENFORCE THE LAWS AND THEREFORE KEEP US MORE SAFE.
AND THEREFORE, FOR ME, IT'S A PERSONAL, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT ACCESS TO ALCOHOL.
'CAUSE ANYONE COULD GO ANYWHERE TO GET WHATEVER ALCOHOL THEY WANT FROM WHEREVER.
BUT, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO ALLOW, UM, OR TO FACILITATE MORE OF A, AN ABILITY TO PRO, TO, TO ENFORCE, UH, LAWS AND, AND, AND TO HAVE MORE ANTI-CRIME PREVENTION MEASURES DONE IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THE, THE TAXPAYER TAXPAYERS OF OUR CITY.
BECAUSE THE INSULATION OF ALL THESE CAMERAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THESE ARE, BUT WHATEVER YOU, WHATEVER THEY ARE, IF, IF, IF THEY DECIDE TO, TO, TO, TO APPLY FOR ALCOHOL, UH, TO SELL ALCOHOL, AND THEY, THEY PUT THESE IN AS A CONDITION, THEN YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY THE NUMBER OF LOCATIONS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A NET SAVINGS TO THE TAXPAYER.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WITH THE INCREASED NETWORK OF FLOCK CAMERAS MORE AROUND THE CITY, UH, IT ISN'T A SURVEILLANCE STATE, BUT IT ACTUALLY, LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS SAID THAT IT ACTUALLY HELPS THEM TO DO THEIR JOB BETTER.
SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE, WE DON'T KNOW THE PERPETRATORS OF CRIME OR WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CATCH PEOPLE AS WELL.
SO TO ME, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE IS WHAT IS DIFFERENT FROM BEFORE.
AND I WASN'T HERE BEFORE, BUT BECAUSE PUBLIC SAFETY IS A BIG PRIORITY FOR ME, I WANTED TO, TO FIND A WAY TO, TO MAXIMIZE, UH, THIS AS A WAY TO, TO PROMOTE, UH, GREATER PUBLIC SAFETY, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
AND THAT GOES THE SAME FOR ME IN REGARDS TO SAFETY IN, IN FLOCK CAMERA.
FOR ALL WE KNOW, HAVING THE FLOCK CAMERA AND C C T V, WELL, PRIMARILY A FLOCK CAMERA, IT COULD EVEN HURT THEIR SALES OF BUSINESS.
SO AGAIN, I'M, I'M FOR, UH, SAFETY AND, AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CONTOS IN REGARDS TO THE FLOCK CAMERA, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, UH, AS MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO CAMERAS, WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, THAT IS MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
AND AGAIN, I MEAN, I COULD CONTINUE TO READ THESE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT, YOU KNOW, ALCOHOL IS NOT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PRIME FOCUS OF BEING SOLD TO WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
IT'S, IT'S ALLOWING A BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, SELL AND ALLOW THIS JUST LIKE THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN SOME SURROUNDING CITIES.
UH, THANK YOU MAYOR FOR GIVING ME THE FLOOR, UH, TO SPEAK.
UM, THAT, THAT IS THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER.
UH, SO JUST SO, BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMS, UM, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, LOPEZ BRITO, YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING.
THE REASON FOR THE MORATORIUM ON THE DRIVE-THROUGHS WAS BECAUSE OF SATURATION.
AND BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNHEALTHY, UNHEALTHY FOOD ITEM FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT MADE THE COMMUNITY MORE UNHEALTHY, ADDING ALCOHOL SALES, ADDING MORE AREAS TO PURCHASE.
ALCOHOL IS ALSO CREATING A MORE UNHEALTHY COMMUNITY.
AND ALSO, WHEN YOU PROMOTE MAYOR PROAM, ARE WE GONNA GO SOMEWHERE WITH THIS? WELL, 'CAUSE I, I, I GET TO RESPOND.
I GET TO RESPOND WHEN THE, THE WAY A DISCUSSION WORKS.
SHE, SHE, THAT IS RELATED TO THE TOPIC.
SHE SPOKE TO ME AND SHE MADE COMMENTS ON MY, AND THEN I GET TO REBUT, AND THEN AFTERWARDS SHE CAN CLAIM THE FLOOR.
SHE CAN ASK YOU FOR THE FLOOR.
AFTER COUNCILMAN CONTOS, SHE SPOKE OUT OF TURN.
YOU'VE NOW GIVEN ME THE FLOOR.
AND SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO FINISH MY COMMENT.
WHAT'S YOUR POINT OF ORDER? UM, TO DISRUPTING, NOT ALLOWING, LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN TO, TO THE POINT ABOUT PROMOTION.
WELL, WE WE'RE WANTING TO PASS THIS FOR CONVENIENCE.
WELL, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO MAKE SOMETHING MORE CONVENIENT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING, YOU'RE WANTING IT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO PURCHASE, EASIER FOR THEM TO GET.
SO, SO THAT IS THE, THE CITY PROMOTING.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE RATIONALE OF THIS COUNCIL JUST DOES NOT FIT WITH OTHER ITEMS WE'VE HAD IN FRONT OF US.
AND SO, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I SEE THE, THE HYPOCRISY AND WHY I'M AGAINST THIS MOTION.
UH, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN LOPEZ.
THE SATURATION WAS NOT JUST THE FOCUS OF UNHEALTHY, IT
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WAS THE ISSUE OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING THAT, THAT DRIVE-THROUGH AFFECTS THE WHOLE LONG LINE AND THAT THEY CAN'T GET THROUGH.AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MERIDIUM, UH, WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SPACE SO THAT THEY CAN DO PICKUP.
SO WE DID CONTINUE TO MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, STICKING TO THE TOPIC AT HAND, WHICH IS THIS, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, SATURATION OF WHAT YOU THOUGHT, MAKING, LINKING, LINKING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME THING.
IT DOESN'T LINK, THAT'S, AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING OVER YOUR MENTIONING UNHEALTHY.
THAT WAS NOT THE CASE OF THIS WHOLE SATURATION.
I MEAN, WE CAN GO ON FOR AN ON, BUT LIKE, I'D LIKE TO STICK TO THE TOPIC AND WE COULD MOVE FORWARD.
I HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, COUNCILMAN WU IN A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CONTOS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS, ADDING FLOCK CAMERAS AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND REMOVING THE LANGUAGE REGARDING PAYPHONES COUNCIL, MCC CONTOS, UM, OH, EXCUSE ME.
YEAH, SORRY, IF I MAY, UM, THAT WASN'T A PART OF THE STANDARDS THAT WAS INCLUDED.
SO THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT IN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
BEFORE ROLL CALL, I WILL READ THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 5 1 5, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA, TO AMEND CHAPTER 26 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE TO ALLOW ALCOHOL, BEAR IN MIND SALES AT SERVICE STATIONS AND FINDING THE ORDINANCE IS EXEMPT FROM ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
C Q A PURSUANT TO C Q A GUIDELINES, SECTION 1 5 0 6 1 B THREE.
MAY APPROACH HIM TABBA, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO ON THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WAS MADE, UM, BECAUSE THERE, THERE WASN'T THE, THE, THE CALL FOR ALL THE GAS STATIONS, BUT IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION IT INCLUDED ALL, ALL GAS STATIONS WITHOUT THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT.
I BELIEVE THE MOTION WAS TO REMOVE THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT.
SO THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE AN AMENDMENT.
WHEN THE, THE FIRST MOTION WAS, WHEN THE FIRST MOTION WAS SECONDED.
IT DIDN'T HAVE ABOUT THE SERGEANT SQUARE REMOVING THE 2000.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT.
NO, I DIDN'T, IT'S NOT IN THERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE MY, MY QUESTION I WAS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION.
YEAH, IT WASN'T IN THERE ANYWAY.
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ON TO COST OF SERVICES STUDY.MS. MORALES, WHO'S GOING TO BE GIVING US THE STAFF REPORT, UH,
AND IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT TO CHANGE
UH, WE HAVE MR. JOHNSON HERE WHO IS THE CONSULTANT THAT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA HAS HIRED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR USER FEES AND DETERMINE, UM, IF WE'RE MEETING OUR, UM, NEEDS HERE IN THE CITY OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE CHARGING OR WHAT WE CAN CHARGE FOR OUR FEES.
SO MR. JOHNSON'S GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO A PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE HEAR ME? OKAY.
I'M GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT WITH MY PARTNER RICK KERMER OVER HERE TO MY LEFT TO PRESENT TO YOU THE COST OF SERVICES STUDY.
BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW ABOUT R C S.
WE ARE THE PRE PREMIER EXPERT IN USER FEE, COST ALLOCATION, IMPACT FEE STUDIES.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONGER THAN ANYBODY ELSE HAS.
UM, WE'RE A SMALL PROFESSIONAL COMPANY THAT RE RELIES ON REFERRALS, REPEAT BUSINESS.
UM, ALL OF OUR PARTNERS ARE FORMER CITY EMPLOYEES.
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WHAT WE DO AND WE HAVE THAT CITY EXPERIENCE TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.AND, AND, UM, HAVE BEEN DOING THIS.
WE HAVE OVER 135 YEARS OF KNOWLEDGE COMBINED TOGETHER.
AND WE'VE DONE THIS IN OVER 250 DIFFERENT AGENCIES, MOSTLY IN CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY.
SO WE LOOKED AT USER FEES WHERE THERE'S IDENTIFIABLE USER COST FOR SERVICE, PRIMARILY DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION FEES, BUT ALSO POLICE, FIRE, RECREATION FEES, ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.
WE LOOKED AT CERTAIN RENTS THAT ARE MORE MARKET SET SUCH AS FACILITY RENTALS, UM, AND FINES WHEN IT COMES TO MUNICIPAL CODE VIOLATIONS OR, OR CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS.
UM, WE DID A COST ALLOCATION PLAN AND ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD AS PART OF THIS.
THIS IS NOT FOR IMPACT FEES, WHICH WILL BE COMING TO YOU LATER.
THIS IS NOT IN LIEU FEES, UTILITY RATES, GRANTS OR TAXES.
SO WHAT HAVE WE DONE? WE'VE RECAST THE CITY BUDGET WITH A BUSINESS ORIENTATION.
WE DID THIS BECAUSE THE VOTERS TOLD US TO IN 1978, THEY PASSED PROPOSITION 13, WHICH LIMITED PROPERTY TAXES.
THEN A YEAR LATER THEY PASSED PROPOSITION FOUR, WHICH SAID THAT FEES THAT DO NOT EXCEED THE COST REASONABLY BORN ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICE ARE NOT CONSIDERED TAXES.
AND THIS WAS REINFORCED AND LIMITED IN PROP TWO 18 IN LATER YEARS IN PROP 2 26.
UM, IN 2010, THEY WANTED GOVERNMENT TO ACT MORE LIKE A BUSINESS AND KNOW ITS COST.
BUT WHILE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING DOES A GREAT JOB OF TRACKING REVENUES AND EXPENSES AT THE FUND, DEPARTMENT AND DIVISION LEVEL, IT WAS NEVER REALLY DESIGNED TO TRACK REVENUES AND COSTS AT A SERVICE LEVEL.
SO WE HAD TO CREATE THAT INFORMATION WORKING WITH STAFF, WE IDENTIFY WHAT A COST TO PROVIDE THE FULL BUSINESS COST OF SERVICES TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
SO THERE IS NO CITY COUNCIL SERVICE OR CITY MANAGER SERVICE.
THESE COSTS AMONGST OTHERS ARE PART OF THE OVERHEAD SUPPORT COST.
IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO THE STORE AND YOU BUY A CAN OF CORN.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY THAT CAN OF CORN, THAT IT INCLUDES THE COST OF THE FARMER AND THE DISTRIBUTOR AND THE CHECKER IN FRONT OF YOU AT, AT THE GROCERY STORE.
YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT SAME THING HERE WITH THE, THE SERVICES THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE FULL BUSINESS COST OF PROVIDING SERVICES TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
AS A BUSINESS, YOU WON'T STAY IN BUSINESS VERY LONG IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS INFORMATION.
ALSO, YOU WON'T STAY IN BUSINESS VERY LONG IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MATCH UP REVENUES WITH THOSE COSTS.
SO WE'VE DONE THIS ALSO FOR EVERY FEE SERVICE.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE REVENUE AND MATCHED THAT UP WITH THE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE.
AND THIS IS A THOROUGH PROCESS.
WE STARTED WITH, WE WANTED TO UPDATE THE CURRENT FEES.
SO WE NEEDED TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE SERVICES YOU'RE PROVIDING WORKING WITH STAFF.
WE ADDED FEES, WE REMOVE FEES, WE REDEFINED FEES.
AND OF COURSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE IF THEY'RE NOT MORE THAN THE COST.
REASONABLY BORN AND CONFIRMED THAT THERE'S REVENUE, THAT THE REVENUE THAT'S BEING COLLECTED WITH THE CURRENT FEE IS BEING COLLECTED.
AND WHERE THERE'S SOME MARKET DEMAND FEES.
WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH STAFF ALSO.
SO HOW DID WE DO THIS? WELL, AS I MENTIONED, WE NEED TO ESTABLISH WHAT'S THE, THE SERVICE AND WHAT'S THE TIME SPENT.
SO WE SPENT TIME WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY.
WHAT ARE ALL THE SERVICES YOU'RE PROVIDING? IDENTIFIED STAFF TIME TO THOSE SERVICES.
WENT OVER THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
IDENTIFIED HOW MANY OF THESE YOU'RE DOING SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW MUCH STAFF IS BEING ALLOCATED, WE'RE NOT ALLOCATING HOURS THAT DON'T EXIST.
WE'RE NOT OVER ALLOCATING STAFF.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE ALSO DOING OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN PROVIDING THESE FEE SERVICES, WE IDENTIFY THAT TOO.
WHETHER IT'S PROVIDING ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OR TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR PROVIDING OTHER SERVICES TO THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE MORE TRADITIONAL TAX SERVICES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT IT.
BUT THE IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED 100% OF ALL CITY STAFF TIME TO ALL THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
WE THEN NEED TO CALCULATE A FULLY BURNED HOURLY RATE.
SO WE LOOKED AT ACTUAL SALARIES, ACTUAL FRINGE BENEFITS.
WE LOOKED AT WHAT'S BUDGETED FOR NON-PERSONNEL EXPENSES.
WE DEVELOPED AN OVERHEAD COST.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE COST ALLOCATION PLAN COMES IN, WHERE WE ALLOCATED OUT COST TO CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER AND FINANCE AND HR IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE AND IS FAIR TO THE USERS OF THOSE SERVICE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
WE DID THE SAME THING FOR DEPARTMENTAL OVERHEAD WITHIN A DEPARTMENT OR SOMETIMES WITHIN A DIVISION.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE A FULLY BURDENED HOURLY RATE FOR EVERY POSITION IN THE CITY.
A BILLING RATE, A BUSINESS RATE FOR EVERY POSITION.
WE THEN MATCHED THAT BILLING RATE UP WITH THAT TIME DETAIL.
AND NOW WE KNOW WHAT THE COST OF THE SERVICE IS.
AND WE SAT DOWN WITH STAFF AGAIN, WE REVIEWED, HERE'S THE CURRENT FEE, HERE'S THE COST, HERE'S A FEE TO RECOVER THOSE COSTS AND, AND SAT DOWN WITH STAFF AND MADE SURE THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THOSE PROPOSED FEES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY ARE SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE AND ARE WORKABLE AT THE COUNTER ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS.
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WHICH BRINGS US HERE TONIGHT.HAVE THE FINAL REPORT TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE HERE TO ASSIST AS FAR AS HELPING OUT GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO AS I MENTIONED, WE LOOKED AT EVERY SERVICE IN THE CITY AND THERE'S WHAT WE CALL TAX SERVICES VERSUS FEE SERVICES.
COMMUNITY SUPPORTED SERVICES VERSUS PERSONAL CHOICE.
TAXES ARE THERE TO PAY FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORTED SERVICES.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT TYPICALLY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
THEY'RE 100% SUPPORTED BY TAX DOLLARS.
AND EXAMPLES OF THIS ARE POLICE AND FIRE AND STREETS AND PARKS.
SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WHAT DO MY TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR? THIS IS WHAT YOUR TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR.
PERSONAL CHOICE SERVICES IS WHERE THE CUSTOMER'S IDENTIFIABLE SERVICES, MEASURABLE, MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT BENEFITS AN INDIVIDUAL OR A GROUP AND NOT THE LARGER COMMUNITY.
YOU CAN STILL DECIDE TO SUBSIDIZE CERTAIN SERVICES AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CHARGE MORE THAN OTHER PEOPLE, MORE THAN WHAT THE COSTS ARE.
SO EXAMPLES OF PERSONAL CHOICE SERVICES ARE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT ARE TYPICALLY NOT SUBSIDIZED AND RECREATION SERVICES THAT TYPICALLY ARE SUBSIDIZED.
AND SO I HAVE THIS CHART HERE WHERE IT MATCHES UP TAXES WITH COMMUNITY SUPPORTED SERVICES.
TAXES ARE THERE TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY SUPPORTED SERVICES.
FEES AND CHARGES ARE THERE TO SUPPORT PERSONAL CHOICE SERVICES.
BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE FEE DOES NOT COVER THE COST, PROVIDING THE SERVICE, THAT MONEY'S GOTTA COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
THE COSTS ARE OCCURRING, THE SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
SO THE ONLY PLACE IT CAN COME FROM ARE TAXES.
SO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE IDENTIFIED ABOUT $12.8 MILLION IN SUBSIDY OF PERSONAL CHOICE SERVICES WITH TAX DOLLARS.
AND I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE TODAY AND SAY, IF YOU ADOPT EVERYTHING IN THIS REPORT, YOU'LL GET $12.8 MILLION.
SO LET'S DIVE INTO THE DETAIL A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO WE HAVE THIS CHART WHICH IDENTIFIES KIND OF GROUPS TOGETHER, DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES WHERE WE IDENTIFY THE TOTAL FEE REVENUE BASED ON THE CURRENT FEES TODAY, THE TOTAL COST BASED ON WHAT WE CALCULATED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE OF COURSE IS ANY PROFIT OR NEGATIVE NUMBER THERE BEING A SUBSIDY.
SO YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THE SUBTOTAL FOR UM, SUBSIDY.
THERE YOU SEE THAT $12.8 MILLION NUMBER.
BUT IF YOU LOOK, LOOK OFF TO THE FAR RIGHT, THERE'S A POSSIBLE NEW REVENUE NUMBER.
IT TOTALS ONE POINT ABOUT $1.4 MILLION.
WHY IS THERE SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT 12.8 AND 1.4? BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS IN HERE THAT ALTHOUGH WE IDENTIFY AS PERSONAL CHOICE SERVICES, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE SUBSIDIZED EITHER BY THE NATURE OF THE SERVICE OR BECAUSE LIKE FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES, THEY'RE GONNA BE THINGS THAT YOU PROBABLY WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUBSIDIZE.
SO LET ME WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS IN HERE.
IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY AREA, THINGS THAT WE ARE ASKING TO BE CONTINUED TO SUBSIDIZE OUR FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY INSPECTIONS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A 50% COST RECOVERY.
SO THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE BETWEEN THE SUBSIDY, THE POSSIBLE NEW REVENUE, FALSE ALARM RESPONSE.
IF IT'S WORKING WELL, YOU'RE NOT COLLECTING ANY REVENUE.
AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT PROJECTING EVERYWHERE, ANY REVENUE.
WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR PROJECTED REVENUES HERE.
SO WE DON'T OVER PROJECT JAIL BOOKING, WE'RE INCRE SUGGESTING AN INCREASE IN THE FEE, BUT IT'S LIKE GETTING THE BLOOD OUT OF A STONE SOMETIMES.
SO WE'RE NOT PROJECTING ADDITIONAL REVENUE THERE.
THE BIG ONE IS E M S SERVICES.
E M S SERVICES HAS A FEE AND IT'S DESIGNED TO COVER THE COST OF THAT RESPONSE FROM FROM DOOR TO DOOR.
AND WE'VE INCREASED THE FEE TO DO THAT WITH THESE COSTS.
BUT IT DOESN'T COVER ALL THE OTHER WAIT TIME COSTS.
ALL THE OTHER ON-CALL COST WHERE THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO A CALL, BUT THEY'RE THERE READY TO RESPOND TO A CALL.
UM, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO, THE FEE IS GONNA BE ASTRONOMICAL.
SO THERE'S A $8.5 MILLION CONTINUED SUBSIDY FOR E M S SERVICES.
THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
IT'S NOTHING UNUSUAL HERE IN WEST COVINA.
CODE ENFORCEMENT, ANOTHER ONE THAT IS, HAS FINES, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY INCREASE YOUR REVENUE.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN OUR POSSIBLE NEW REVENUE PROJECTIONS.
AND THAT'S ALSO WHY WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES, WE DIDN'T PROJECT ANY NEW REVENUE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A SECOND, BUT COMMUNITY SERVICES ARE DIFFERENT.
YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, HERE'S THE COST, THEREFORE HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA CHARGE.
PEOPLE WON'T COME, YOU WON'T HAVE A PROGRAM.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN A SECOND.
SO THE REPORT ITSELF, LEMME JUST KIND OF QUICKLY WALK YOU THROUGH HOW THE, THROUGH HOW THE REPORT IS STRUCTURED.
'CAUSE IT'S 569 PAGES, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN HERE.
AND, AND I FOUND OUT LATE THIS AFTERNOON THAT THERE, THERE WE MADE SOME LATE FIRE DEPARTMENT CHANGES THAT DID NOT GET INTO THIS REPORT.
SO IT'S THE REPORT, THE SUMMARY TABLES THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU ARE CORRECT, BUT THE, THE DETAILED IN APPENDIX
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A AND B REPRESENT OLD INFORMATION.I JUST SENT THAT TO LISA LATE THIS AFTERNOON.
SO SHE WILL FORWARD THAT ON TO YOU AND THE COMMUNITY, UM, IF NOT TONIGHT, TOMORROW.
YES, I'LL GET THAT OUT TO YOU TOMORROW MORNING AND ALSO PLACE IT ON OUR CITY'S WEBSITE.
AND SO WE HAVE THE TABLE OF CONTENTS AT THE BEGINNING THAT TALKS YOU THROUGH THE TEXT.
THERE'S ABOUT 40 PAGES OF TEXT THAT EXPLAIN A LOT OF WHAT I TALKED ABOUT, BUT IN A LOT MORE DETAIL.
UM, WHEN YOU GET TO CHAPTER THREE OF THE REPORT, PAGES 23 TO 33, IT HAS THAT, THAT SAME LEVEL, THOSE SAME COLUMNS WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THAT WERE SUMMARIZED BY TYPE OF SERVICE, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY.
NOW IT IDENTIFIES EACH INDIVIDUAL SERVICE.
SO ON THOSE SUMMARY TABLES, YOU'LL SEE S 0 0 1, ADDITIONAL PLANNING APPLICATION REVIEW, S 0 0 2 ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, ALL THE D THE THE TOTAL REVENUE, TOTAL COST, TOTAL SUBSIDIES FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL SERVICE.
APPENDIX A IS WHERE THE JUICY STUFF STARTS TO HAPPEN.
CURRENT FEE AND PROPOSED FEE SIDE BY SIDE FOR, FOR ALL OF THE, UM, I FORGOT TO LOOK, UH, OVER 200 DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN HERE, UM, WHERE YOU COULD SEE SIDE BY SIDE, YOU NOTICE THAT YOU'LL SEE THOSE SAME REFERENCE NUMBERS, SS NUMBERS THAT KIND OF FOLLOWS THROUGH FROM THAT SUMMARY TABLE IN CHAPTER THREE TO APPENDIX A AND FOLLOWS THROUGH TO APPENDIX B.
WHERE FOR EVERY SERVICE THERE'LL BE THESE TWO MATCHING, OOPS, TWO MATCHING PAGES.
LEMME MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIGGER.
AND SO FOR EVERY SERVICE YOU'LL HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF THE SERVICE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE BELOW THAT THE FEE THAT THE CITY'S CURRENTLY CHARGING.
BELOW THAT A REVENUE AND COST COMPARISON BOTH ON A PER UNIT BASIS AND A TOTAL OR ANNUAL BASIS.
THE COST COMING FROM THE RIGHT HAND PAGE.
SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE STAFF THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT SERVICE.
SO HERE WE HAVE A, A, UM, POLICE LIEUTENANT SPENDING 15 MINUTES 0.25 ON EACH SERVICE.
POINT TWO FIVE OF POLICE LIEUTENANT FULLY BURDENED ALL THE OVERHEADS, EVERYTHING 50 TO DOLLARS AND 50 AND 50 CENTS.
THERE'S SIX OF THESE A YEAR, THEREFORE THE ANNUAL COST IS $315.
AND THEN SAME THING FOR EACH POSITION BELOW THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHO'S INVOLVED AND HOW MUCH TIME IS INVOLVED IN EACH SERVICE THAT'S IN HERE.
AND THAT GIVES YOU YOUR TOTAL PER UNIT COST AND YOUR TOTAL ANNUAL COST.
AND SO THEN WE GO BACK OVER HERE TO THE LOWER LEFT, THERE'LL BE A FEE RECOMMENDATION TO RECOVER IN MOST CASES 100% OF THOSE COSTS.
AND SO THERE'S THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL FOR EVERY SERVICE.
SO IF YOU'RE STARTING IN CHAPTER THREE AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME NUMBERS THERE THAT, GOSH, THIS SEEMS REALLY HIGH OR SOMETHING, YOU CAN GO TO APPENDIX A, THAT SAME SS NUMBER AND SEE, OKAY, IT'S GOING FROM THIS FEE TO THAT FEE.
WHY IS THAT FEE SO HIGH? WELL, YOU GO TO APPENDIX B, FIND THAT SAME S NUMBER AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT MAKES UP THAT DETAIL AND WHY THOSE COSTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, RECREATION'S DIFFERENT.
AND SO WE TREAT IT DIFFERENTLY.
WE DON'T COME IN AND JUST SAY, HERE'S YOUR, HERE'S A WHOLE NEW SET OF FEES TO RECOVER THESE COSTS.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE THAT GOES INTO IT.
THERE'S THE MARKET THAT GOES INTO IT.
THERE IS AS THERE'S THE, WHAT THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY WANNA SUBSIDIZE OR NOT SUBSIDIZE.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE DISCUSSION.
SO WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE IN APPENDIX C AT THE VERY BACK OF THE REPORT IS WHAT ARE THE DIRECT COST OF THE PROGRAM? AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE COST RECOVERY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DIRECT COST.
SO WE'VE PRESENTED FOR THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT SERVICES AND EVERYTHING FROM DAYCARE TO CONTRACT CLASSES TO SENIOR MEALS TO UH, FACILITY OPERATIONS AND SPORTSPLEX OFF TO THE RIGHT HERE YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUES AND WHAT THE PERCENT IS WHAT PERCENT RECOVERY OF THOSE DIRECT COST.
NOW THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE FACILITY COSTS, WHICH ARE DOWN BELOW HERE AT THE BOTTOM.
AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE OVERHEAD COSTS, WHICH ARE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.
THEY, THEY'RE STILL REAL COST.
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS AS NOT SETTING FEES FOR RECREATION, BUT SETTING GOALS.
WE WANT THIS PROGRAM TO RECOVER X PERCENT OR WE WANT YOUTH TO RECOVER X PERCENT OR WE WANT THE DIVISION AS A WHOLE TO RECOVER X PERCENT.
IF YOU LOOK AT US AS DIRECT COST, THAT'S A MORE MEANINGFUL NUMBER TO, TO UPDATE FROM YEAR TO YEAR FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO YOU YEAR TO YEAR AND SAY, HERE'S HOW WE'RE DOING WITH YOUR GOALS, WITHOUT HAVING TO RECALCULATE OVERHEADS.
THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR DIRECT COSTS ARE.
THEY KNOW WHAT THE COST OF THEIR PART-TIME AND THEIR SUPPLIES AND AND, AND ALL THAT.
AND SO THINK ABOUT RECREATION IN THOSE TERMS INSTEAD OF IN SPECIFIC FEES.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE A LARGER DISCUSSION JUST TALKING ABOUT RECREATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AS PART OF THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE OTHER FEES AND WE SHOULDN'T NOT LOOK AT IT IN THE SAME WAY.
SO OUR GOAL WAS TO IDENTIFY THE FULL COST FOR THE VARIOUS SERVICES AND WE THINK WE'VE DONE THAT.
WE AND CITY STAFF TOGETHER HAVE MADE FEE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EVERY SERVICE THAT WE FEEL EITHER HAS A FEE OR COULD
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MAKE SENSE AS A FEE SERVICE.IT'S NOW UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHICH SERVICES SHOULD BE CHARGED, THE FULL COST AND WHICH SERVICES SHOULD BE SUBSIDIZED WITH TAX DOLLARS.
'CAUSE THE COSTS ARE OCCURRING, SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
THE QUESTION NOW IS WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR IT, THE TAXPAYER OR THE PERSON OR GROUP RECEIVING THE SERVICE.
AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
IF I COULD JUST ADD A COUPLE THINGS, AMIR.
UM, SO TONIGHT THE PRESENTATION, THE REPORT, UM, IS JUST TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
UM, WE ARE, UH, THEN GONNA BE HOSTING, UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, TWO COMMUNITY, UH, MEETINGS OR WORKSHOPS.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU TO GO OVER THOSE, UM, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THEN WHETHER LINE BY LINE OR GO THROUGH THE FEES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE OR FEES THAT YOU WOULD THE, LIKE, AS THE, THE CONSULTANT MENTIONED, THE PERCENTAGES OF THE RETURN ON THOSE FEES.
SO TONIGHT'S JUST RECEIVE AND FILE I AND TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THE OTHER THING I DID WANNA NOTE IS THAT THE, THIS IS A RESULT FROM OUR, UM, 2020 STATE AUDIT THAT, UM, ONE OF THE FINDINGS WAS THAT WE WERE NOT CHARGING, UM, ENOUGH FEES TO RECOUP, UM, OUR COST.
AND SO THAT THEY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE FINDINGS.
AND THIS IS A, IN RESPONSE TO, UM, THAT 2020 STATE AUDIT.
AND THEY SUGGESTED THAT EVERY THREE YEARS WE REASSESS OUR FEES.
UM, AND I THINK THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID IT WAS IN 2017.
SO DO WE NEED A, UM, MADAM MAYOR, UM, COUNCILMAN CONTOS, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS, HOW DOES THIS INTERSECT WITH, LET'S SAY WE HAVE GOALS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
WE HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD LEVERAGE THIS PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE TO, TO ASSESS DIFFERENT COSTS IN A WAY THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO UNDERTAKE PAYMENT FOR THOSE PROJECTS, BUT IN A WAY THAT'S FAIR AND DOESN'T REALLY BURDEN THE COM COMPUTE? I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A LOADED QUESTION, BUT I JUST KEEP THINKING ABOUT SO MANY THINGS THAT WE WANT ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SIDE AND ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T PAY FOR THINGS UNTIL THEY FULLY, FULLY BREAK.
BUT HOW DOES THAT, HOW DO THOSE PRIORITIES INTERSECT WITH, WITH THE ASSESSMENT HERE OF, OF COSTS AND, AND POSSIBLE REVENUE, UH, REVENUE SOURCES? I'LL GO AHEAD AND TRY THAT.
UM, I, I THINK REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT I SEE IT BEING A BENEFIT IN THAT WAY IS YOU'RE FREEING UP A, IF, IF EVERY RECOMMENDATION IS REPORT, WE'RE, WE'RE UNDERTAKEN.
WE THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET ABOUT $1.4 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL ANNUAL REVENUE THAT, THAT RIGHT NOW IS BEING PAID FOR WITH TAXES.
AND SO THAT FREES UP ABOUT $1.4 MILLION IN TAX DOLLARS THAT YOU CAN USE FOR C I P PROGRAMS THAT YOU CAN USE FOR POLICE OR FIRE OR MAINTENANCE.
UM, SO IT GIVES YOU AN EX LITTLE EXTRA LEVERAGE ON THAT WAY, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
SO, SO BASICALLY WE WANT TO FEE SCHEDULE OKAY.
SURVEY, SO THAT INCLUDING, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, BUSINESS LICENSE FEE OKAY.
OR OKAY, HOW TO RENT THE, THE PARK.
AM I RIGHT? YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.
SO BASICALLY WE, WE, WE WANNA CHECK EVERYTHING ABOUT THE FEE A SERVICE RENDER, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WANT TO BOOK OUR COMMUNITY ROOM, HOW MUCH DO PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY AND, UH, HOW MUCH WE PAY RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT IS THE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT, RIGHT? AM I RIGHT? THAT'S WHY YOU SURVEY, TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE RAN OUT, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, OKAY.
UH, PARK, KAREN PARK OR THE PAVILIONS OR, OR SENIOR CENTER.
AND THE SENIOR CENTER HAVE A TWO PART, THEY HAVE ANOTHER EAST SIDE.
SO, SO IF I WANT TO RENT A ROOM FOR SOME ACTIVITY, SO YOU SURVEY, WHY IS THE CHARGE WHERE JUSTIFY THE CURRENT OUT THE CITY OR THIS AND THAT? YEAH.
THAT, THAT IS GONNA BE AN INSTANCE WHERE A, A SURVEY OF LIKE FACILITIES IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA WANNA DO.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT'S A RENTAL OF A, OF A CITY ASSET, YOU'RE NOT LIMITED TO COST.
YOU CAN CHARGE WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL, WILL, WILL PAY FOR THAT ROOM FOR THAT HOUR.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE SURVEYS WILL, WILL DEFINITELY BE HELPFUL WHEN IT COMES TO TALKING ABOUT ROOM RENTAL FEES.
SO WHEN YOU SAY, WHEN WE CHARGE THE FEE, WE ARE FAR AWAY.
FROM OUR, OKAY, SO WHICH AREA THAT WE ARE LACK OF, UH, WHAT SHOULD BE
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CHARGED BY OUR OKAY.SEAT RESIDENT OR PEOPLE WANT TO GET SOME SERVICE.
COULD YOU GIMME AN EXAMPLE? WHAT KIND, WHAT KIND OF FEE PLAN PLANNING FEES? UH, THINK OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT OR A A, UM, A, AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT OR AN ANNUAL FIRE PERMIT.
ALL OF THOSE, OR, UM, SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PERMIT FEE? YES.
IS THAT WE ALREADY DOWNLOADED A COUPLE YEARS AGO TO, TO UPDATE THE FEE.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU TALKING ABOUT PLAN CHECK FEE OR FOR PLANNING AND FOR FIRE.
FIRE, RIGHT? SO THINK OF ALL THE, THE PLANNING APPLICATION FEES, ANYTHING FROM A, UH, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO A, UM, PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN.
I, I UNDERSTAND RUNNING A GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE SERVICE, IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY AND STAFF TIME THIS ON THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I REALLY WORRY ABOUT BURDEN PEOPLE TO PAY MORE.
AND THERE, WHY IS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR TO INCREASE IN THE FEE AND UP? NOBODY WANT TO OKAY.
COME TO OUR CITY TO DO DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING.
IF WE BECOME SO EXPENSIVE, WELL, THERE THEY WANNA BECOME ANOTHER PASADENA.
SO WE WANT TO BE, UH, FRIENDLIER AND CHEAPER, BUT PE BUT PEOPLE STILL DEVELOP IN PASADENA, PEOPLE DEVELOP WHERE THEY DEVELOP BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE THERE OR THEY OWN PROPERTY THERE.
SO THE, THE FEES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, PEOPLE ARE NOT DEVELOPING OR NOT DEVELOPING BASED ON AN EXTRA FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS OR EVEN A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS, UNLIKE CAPITAL IMPACT FEES, WHICH MAY HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT.
AND SO THE TIMES OF MONEY, IF WE CAN GIVE THEM OKAY.
AND, UH, OKAY, TIMELY MATTER TO PROVIDE AND THE TIME IS MATTER, THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY ADDITIONAL MORE, OKAY.
RATHER THAN DRAGGING OVER THERE FOR SO MANY MONTHS.
SO I THINK THE SERVICE ISSUE, AND, UH, THAT IS WHAT MOST OF THE BUILDER CARE THE MOST EXACTLY.
THE TIME YOU OUT OF THE TIMING, THEN YOU OUTTA LUCK.
SO, SO, SO YOU BASICALLY, YOU SURVEY HOW MUCH CHARGE, COMPARE THE COMPARISON THEN YOU WILL BRING TO US TO FOR APPROVAL.
WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT A COST TO DO SERVICE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE HERE.
WE DIDN'T LOOK AT WHAT IT COST IN OTHER CITIES BECAUSE WE DON'T FEEL THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MOVES THE NEEDLE IS SOMETHING THAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T DEVELOPING BASED ON WHETHER IT'S $500 MORE IN COVINA VERSUS WEST COVINA, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEVELOPING BASED ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF, OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHERE'S THEIR MARKET? WHERE'S THEIR CUSTOMERS, WHERE'S THEIR PROPERTY? AND SO BASED ON THAT, WE'RE SAYING, HERE'S THE COST TO PROVIDING YOUR SERVICE.
NOW WE'RE ASKING WHO SHOULD PAY FOR IT? SHOULD IT BE THE PERSON RECEIVING THE SERVICE OR THE TAXPAYER OR SOME COMBINATION OF THOSE? AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU AS A COUNCIL, IS THIS, HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH OR THIS JUST, YOU DO THE SURVEY AND YOU BRING BACK TO US.
YOU HAVE DO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, RIGHT? YOU HAVE DO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
WE ARE DOING TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC.
SO BECAUSE WE ANY FEE INCREASE, WE BETTER TO GO TO THE PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO OKAY.
AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT CITY PLANNING TO DO.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE A TRY TO GOUGE PEOPLE THING.
SO WE SEE CITY OVER HERE BY THE SAME TIME.
WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER INFLATION FOR OUR RESIDENT BECAUSE WE WANNA INCREASE THE THING, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MIX AND MEET.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO BE A DEFICIT.
SO YOU WILL DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THEN YOU WILL SURVEY THE NUMBER AND BRING BACK TO COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND FOR APPROVAL.
WE WILL NOT SURVEY WITH SURROUNDING CITIES.
NO, WE SURVEYED HERE IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
SO IF, IF I CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN APPLICANT APPLIES FOR CONDITIONAL USE, SO YOU HAVE THE TWO COMMUNITY OUTREACH ALREADY? NO, NO, NO.
WE FIRST BROUGHT IT TO YOU THIS EVENING BEFORE WE LEFT LATE.
I'M KIND OF LOSE MY MIND RIGHT HERE.
I HAVEN'T DRINK IT, BUT WE DRUNK
SO, SO, SO WE GO HAVE SOME SURVEY WE'RE GONNA BRING TO THEM, BUT DO WE OKAY.
YOU'RE GONNA DO COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS, WORKSHOP AND WE'LL GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND, AND GOT IT.
AND WHEN WE COME BACK TO US, OCTOBER 3RD WILL BE THE PUBLIC
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HEARING.CAN YOU GIMME THOSE DATES AGAIN THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS COMMUNITY? UM, IT IS, IF YOU CAN GIMME A SECOND.
UM, OH,
THE FIRST ONE'S GONNA BE HERE AT CITY HALL AND THE SECOND ONE'S GONNA BE AT CAMERON COMMUNITY PARK.
WHAT TIME? SIX 6:00 PM BOTH WILL BE AT 6:00 PM OKAY.
THE INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
SO NOW THIS IS JUST RECEIPT AND FILE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UH, MOVE THE MOTION TO RECEIPT ON FILE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WU.
UH, RE REAL, REAL QUICK, JUST, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
UH, SO THIS IS HOW, HOW ACCESSIBLE IS THIS GONNA BE TO THE COMMUNITY? 'CAUSE THEY'RE GOING NEED TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT FEES AND FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES, UH, THEY'RE OKAY WITH THE, THE CITY SUBSIDIZING.
IT'LL BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE TOMORROW.
IT'S AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
SO THERE'LL BE PROMOTION AND IT'LL BE, LIKE I SAID, AVAILABLE TOMORROW.
AND IS IT, IS IT GONNA BE IN THE SAME FORM THAT, THAT, THAT WE GOT, I THINK IT'S LIKE 500 PAGES.
UM, AND WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
UH, I THINK SO JUST FOR, FOR RESIDENTS, UH, PAGE 23 THROUGH 33, WOULD THAT PROBABLY BE WHAT THEY LIKE IF, IF THEY'D ONLY HAD TIME AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, LOOK AT THESE 10 PAGES.
CHA, CHAPTER THREE PAGES 23 TO 33 WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL.
I'LL ALSO HAVE A COPY OF IT IN MY OFFICE.
BY THE WAY,
[8) CONSIDERATION OF DESIGNATION OF VOTING DELEGATE AND ALTERNATES FOR LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES 2023 ANNUAL CONFERENCE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM THE LAST ONE, EIGHT.SECOND TO LAST CONSIDERATION OF DESIGNATION OF VOTING.
WHO'S GONNA BE GIVING THE STAFF REPORT? UM, IT'S JUST, UM, WE NEED, UH, TO DELEGATE OR APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.
AND SO, UM, IF WE CAN GET A, A REPRESENTATIVE AND THEN ALTERNATIVE MAYOR WU.
A LOT OF ALCOHOL AND WINE AND JUST TALKING.
SO ANYWAY, UH, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, NOMINATE OKAY.
SINCE SHE'S GOING TO LEGAL OF CITY AS OUR VOTING REPRESENTATIVE.
AND THE, UH, COUNCILMAN KENTO WILL BE THERE TOO, SO, OKAY.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WU TO APPOINT MAYOR DIAZ AS THE VOTING DELEGATE AND COUNCIL MEMBER CONTOS AS THE ALTERNATE DELEGATE.
AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN, UM, EXCUSE ME, BY MAYOR PROTI TABBA.
[9) CONSIDERATION OF TRANSIT OPTIONS AND TRANSPORTATION AND LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH MV TRANSPORTATION, INC.]
ITEM NUMBER NINE, CONSIDERATION OF TRANSIT OPTIONS AND TRANSPORTATION AND LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MB TRANSPORTATION INC.WHO WILL GIVE, WHO WILL BE GIVING US STAFF REPORT.
UM, UH, KELLY MCDONALD WILL BE PROVIDING THE, UH, PRESENTATION.
UH, THIS MATTER CONCERNS, UH, IMPROVEMENT OPTIONS TO THE CITY'S PUBLIC SERVICE, UH, PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICE, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE FIXED ROUTE SHUTTLE SYSTEM.
AND, UH, SECONDARILY THE, UH, DIAL AIDE.
UH, CURRENTLY THE FIXED ROUTE CONSISTS OF THREE DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS, THE RED, GREEN, AND, UH, BLUE LINES.
THE, UH, RED AND BLUE RUN, OR ALL THE LINES RUN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
THERE ARE FOUR DEDICATED VEHICLES PLUS A STANDBY.
THE, UH, RED AND BLUE EACH OPERATE WITH A SINGLE VEHICLE IN ONE DIRECTION WITH A, UH, ONE HOUR HEADWAY.
THE, THAT'S THE TIME TO COMPLETE THE LOOP.
UH, THE GREEN LINE RUNS, UH, WITH TWO VEHICLES EACH IN AN OPPOSITE DIRECTION WITH A HALF HOUR HEADWAY.
AND THE, UH, DIAL AIDE, UH, OPERATES WITH FOUR VEHICLES PLUS A STANDBY.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IMAGE IS THE, UH, CURRENT, UM, CURRENT ALIGNMENTS.
NOW, BOTH MODES OF SERVICE HAVE EXPERIENCED A DECLINE IN OVERALL RIDERSHIP.
UH, THE TREND'S NOT UNIQUE TO, UH, WEST COVINA IN GENERAL.
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PUBLIC, UH, TRANSIT USAGE HAS BEEN DECLINING.UH, THIS TABLE SHOWS THE REPORTED, UM, BUS BOARDINGS BY NEIGHBORING AGENCIES FOR, UH, THE YEARS 2016.
IN 2020, THE, UH, FIVE YEAR, THE, EACH YEAR OF THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD IS INCLUDED IN YOUR REPORT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE DIFFERENCE, UM, THE, THE DECLINE OVER THIS PERIOD.
THE PANDEMIC IMPACTED THE LAST QUARTER OF 2020, BUT, UH, THE TRENDS WERE ALREADY THERE.
UH, THIS IS THE, UH, SAME INFORMATION BY AGENCY AND, UH, TIMEFRAME FOR THE DIAL AIDE.
THE, UH, DECLINES WERE THERE, BUT NOT AS SIGNIFICANT AS THE BUS BUSES.
UH, THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS THE TREND LINES FOR THE GO WEST RIDERSHIP OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
UM, WEST COVINA NUMBERS FOR 2022 SHOWED A SLIGHT BUMP, UH, RECOVERING SLIGHTLY, BUT, UH, NOT TO THE PRE PANDEMIC LEVEL.
AND, UH, WHEN YOU SEE THIS TREND IN RIDERSHIP, YOU NEED TO CONSIDER THE, UH, COST EFFICIENCY OF DELIVERING THE SERVICE.
THE, UH, VERY PARTICULARLY WITH THE, UH, FIXED ROUTE, THE VARIABLE PART OF VARIABLE PART OF THE TOTAL COST OF SERVICE IS THE, UH, REVENUE HOUR.
THAT'S THE NUMBER OF HOURS IN WHICH A VEHICLE IS IN SERVICE, PICKING UP AND DROPPING OFF RIDERS.
AND, UH, REVENUE HOURS FLUCTUATE WITH, UH, RIDER USE ON THE DEMAND, ON THE, UH, DEMAND BASED DIALER RIDE SERVICE.
THIS ISN'T THE CASE WITH THE FIXED ROUTE AS IT'S FIXED.
AND, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS DEMAND, THOSE BUSES ARE RUNNING AND NOT HAVING RIDERS HURTS THE COST EFFICIENCY.
UM, THIS NEXT GRAPHIC, WHICH SHOWS THE, UH, BOARDINGS FOR THE, UH, GO WEST, UH, BY ALIGNMENT FOR THE, UH, PAST FISCAL YEAR.
THE, UH, TOTAL BOARDINGS MONTHLY AND DAILY AVERAGE, THE REVENUE HOURS BY DAY, WHICH ARE STATIC IN THE BOARDINGS, UH, PER REVENUE HOUR AND COST PER BOARDING WITH THE, UH, TOTAL, TOTAL FIXED AND VARIABLE COSTS.
SO WHAT REALLY STANDS OUT IS A RED AND BLUE LINE DOING ABOUT, UH, 10 AND 15, UH, DAILY, UM, ON AVERAGE AND, UH, ONE AND A HALF OR ONE PERSON PER REVENUE HOUR AT A COST OF ABOUT 58 TO $84 PER BOARDING.
SO THE DECLINE IN RIDERSHIP AND THE NEED TO PROCURE A NEW CONTRACT, UH, PROMPTED AN EVALUATION OF THE CITY'S TRANSIT SERVICES.
I B I, UH, GROUP WAS CONTRACTED TO DO THIS EVALUATION AND ANALYZE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, CONDUCTING A NUMBER OF, UH, COMMUNITY SURVEYS, AS WELL AS VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON, UH, TOWN HALLS TO ASSESS THE CURRENT, UH, TRANSIT SYSTEM AND GET PEOPLE'S, UH, OPINION OF THAT.
UH, IN THE INITIAL SURVEY, UH, THERE WERE GARNERED APPROXIMATELY 550 RESPONSES.
THE TOP THREE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, RESPONSE RESPONDENTS EXPRESS INTEREST IN WERE, UH, ONE AND ON ON DEMAND RIDE HAILING SERVICE.
UH, TWO, BETTER INFORMATION ON HOW TO USE THE GO WEST SHUTTLE SERVICE.
AND THREE, A MOBILE PHONE APP WITH REAL TIME INFORMATION OF THOSE THAT USE THE GO WEST SERVICES.
MORE THAN 80% OF THE RESPONDENTS WERE SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE, AND 87% FELT IT WAS EASY TO USE.
THOSE WHO DIDN'T USE THE SERVICE INDICATED, UH, AS THEIR TOP REASONS THAT, UH, ONE, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHICH BUS TO USE TO, IT TAKES TOO LONG.
AND THREE, THE LINE ISN'T CLOSE ENOUGH TO WHERE THEY LIVE OR, UH, WHERE THEY WANT TO GO.
ANOTHER KEY TAKEAWAY FROM THE SURVEY WAS THAT 93% OF THE RESPONDENTS HAD A CAR OR ACCESS TO ONE.
SO BASED ON ALL THIS INPUT, UH, I B I DEVELOPED ALTERNATIVES, PRESENTED THEM, AND, UH, REFINED MADE REFINEMENTS ON THOSE.
AND, UH, FROM THOSE ALTERNATIVES WENT OUT AND, UH, DID, UM, DID SOME SURVEYING, UH, TOWN HALLS TO, AND REACHED OUT TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO GET FEEDBACK ON THOSE ALTERNATIVES.
TO GET INTO THE ALTERNATIVES BRIEFLY, THE, UH, FIRST WAS TO, UH, REPLACE THE RED AND BLUE LOOPS WITH A, UH, NEW EAST, WEST CROSS TOWN ROUTE THAT WAS A MORE OF A LINEAR ALIGNMENT AND A, UH, TWO-WAY OPERATION WITH VEHICLES ON IT, AND CUTTING THE, UH, WAIT TIME IN HALF.
ALSO, UH, PART OF THAT REALIGNMENT WOULD BE THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE GREEN LINE, WHICH WOULD CONTINUE TO RUN NORTH AND SOUTH WITH TWO VEHICLES ON IT.
BUT THE NORTHERN TERMINUS WOULD BE THE PLAZA WEST COVINA, UH, WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY THE, UH, SENIOR CENTER.
THIS IS, UH, THE, UH, TWO, TWO ROUTES THAT, UH, ARE PROPOSED.
A COMBINATION OF THE REALIGNMENT, UH, WITH THE CONNECTION BEING AT THE PLAZA WEST COVINA.
THE SECOND OPTION WAS A, A, UM, MIX OF, UM, MIX OF SERVICES.
IT WOULD, UH, KEEP THE, UH, THE NEWLY PROPOSED RED LINE AS, UH, PREVIOUSLY SHOWN.
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OF CAMERON AND EAST OF GLENDORA AND DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN LIMIT, UH, WOULD REPLACE THE GREEN LINE WITH AN ON-DEMAND ALTERNATIVE.AND THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR DIRECT TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN THAT SERVICE AREA.
AN ON-DEMAND SERVICE COULD BE PROVIDED THROUGH A, UH, NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF A MICRO TRANSIT, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A BIT, IN, UH, T N C, WHICH IS A TRANSIT NETWORK COMPANY SUCH AS UBER OR LYFT, OR A TAXI COMPANY, OR A BLEND OF ANY OF THESE SERVICES.
A CHALLENGE WE FOUND WITH THE ON-DEMAND OPTIONS, THOUGH, IS, UH, THERE IS AN AGE REQUIREMENT FOR FOLKS WHO WOULD BE RIDING UNACCOMPANIED, UH, MICROT TRANSIT RIDERS MUST BE 13 YEARS AND OLDER TO RIDE UNACCOMPANIED.
AND UBER AND LYFT BOTH HAVE, UH, UH, 18 YEAR AND OVER RESTRICTIONS.
UH, UBER'S LAUNCHED A PILOT, UH, CALLED UBER FOR TEENS THAT WOULD ALLOW TEEN, UH, YOUTH 13 TO 17 TO, UH, RIDE ALONE.
THIS IS LIVE IN SOME CITIES IN 30 STATES, BUT NONE OF THOSE HAPPEN TO BE IN CALIFORNIA.
AND IT, UH, MY ASSESSMENT OR MY FEELING IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE A WHILE BEFORE IT ROLLS OUT.
UH, THIRD OPTION IS TO REPLACE THE FIXED ROUTE ENTIRELY WITH AN ON-DEMAND ALTERNATIVE.
AND, UH, MICROT TRANSIT IS A, IS AN OPTION THAT'S CHARACTERIZED, UH, BY A FEW ASPECTS.
VEHICLES ARE GENERALLY SMALLER IN SIZE.
PASSENGER VANS, MINI BUSES PROVIDE SHARED RIDES, UH, CURB TO CURB OR POINT TO POINT SERVICE.
AND TYPICALLY THE IT, OR THE STRONG POINT OF IT IS IT'S TECHNOLOGY ENABLED.
THEY'RE NOT, IT'S, UH, NOT OPERATED ON A, ON A FIXED ROUTE.
DEMAND COMES IN THROUGH, UH, THROUGH A RIDE REQUESTS FROM A MOBILE APP, A BROWSER, UH, PHONE CENTER, AND, UH, SOFTWARE ALGORITHMS, UM, CREATE THE, UH, CREATE THE ROUTING MOST, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S THE, THE MOST EFFICIENT ROUTING.
UM, THERE ARE THREE POTENTIAL SERVICE STRATEGIES THAT COULD BE EMPLOYED BY, FOR A WEST COVINA, MICROT TRANSIT SERVICES.
THOSE ARE DISCUSSED MORE FULLY IN THE, UH, REPORT.
UH, THE FIRST IS A, UH, UH, TURNKEY A TRANSPORTATION AS A, UM, SERVICE.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, PREFERRED APPROACH, IF THAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE.
IN, UM, MARCH 20, UH, MARCH, 2023, THE CITY WAS APPROACHED BY, UH, VIA, UH, WHO'S A SOFTWARE AND MICROT TRANSIT PROVIDER TO, UH, COOPERATIVELY DEVELOP A GRANT PROPOSAL TO METRO'S VISIONARY SEED FUND PROGRAM.
AND THE GRANT PROPOSAL WAS TO LAUNCH A, UH, PILOT TURNKEY MICROT TRANSIT PROGRAM BASED ON ITS ANALYSIS VIA SUGGESTED THE, UH, PROPOSED PILOT BE IN THE NORTHERN, UH, PORTION OF THE CITY.
THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IS IN CONTRAST WITH WHAT I B I HAD RECOMMENDED, BUT, UH, WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SAW IN TERMS OF OUR RIDERSHIP AND, UH, METRO SPECS TO AWARD, UH, PROPOSALS THIS SUMMER.
AND IF THE PROPOSAL'S SUCCESSFUL, THE GRANT WOULD REQUIRE A 40% MATCH.
I MENTIONED IN THE REPORT THAT HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING TO THIS POINT, BUT, UH, YESTERDAY I WAS CONTACTED BY METRO AND, UH, LET, UH, WAS ADVISED THAT WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL IN IT,
BUT, UH, THEY'RE, UM, CONTINUING TO EVALUATE, UH, THE PROPOSALS.
SO WITH THOSE ALTERNATIVES, WE WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, OR I B I AND DID.
AND, UH, WE HAD A, UH, COMMUNITY SURVEYS, VIRTUAL TOWN HALLS.
UH, WE HAD 67 RESPONSES TO OUR SURVEY.
AND THIS IS KIND OF THE, UH, BREAKDOWN.
UH, 56% PREFERRED THE REALIGNMENT.
UH, 33% PREFERRED THE ON, UH, CITYWIDE ON DEMAND IN 11%.
UM, LIKE THE MIX, UH, THE SECOND TABLE, UH, SHOWS, UH, I I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
WHEN YOU SAY, UH, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, HOW MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT GIVE US GIVE YOU THE FEEDBACK? IT'S LIKE, THERE WAS 20 PEOPLE, OR 200 PEOPLE, 67 RESPONSES IN THIS PARTICULAR 67 PEOPLE CORRECT.
TO RESPOND TO THE, SO OUT OF, UH, 56% OF THE 67 PEOPLE THEY WANT TO REALIGNMENT OF THE ROUTE.
AND BELOW THAT, IN THE SECOND TABLE, ARE SOME OF THE COMMENTS, THE PROS AND CONS THAT PEOPLE, UH, UH, RESPONDED WITH WHEN WE ASKED THEM ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVES, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEY LIKED ABOUT A PARTICULAR, UH, ALL, UM, ALTERNATIVE AND WHAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE, UH, REALIGNMENT.
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WHO LIKED THAT HAD GOOD ACCESS TO IT, UH, THEY LIKED THE SECOND BUS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.FOLKS WHO DIDN'T LIKE IT, UH, UH, UH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WAIT TIME AND POOR ACCESS TO THEIR DESIRED LOCATIONS.
THE CITYWIDE ON DEMAND FOLKS, UH, LIKE THE, UH, DIRECT SERVICE TO ALL AREAS.
AND, UH, OTHERS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT ARRANGING, ARRANGING EACH RIDE AND PREFERRING LARGER VEHICLES AND BEING CONCERNED WITH, UH, BEING ON TIME.
AND, UH, FOLKS WHO FAVORED THE, THE MIX, UH, CITED VARIETY AS A POSITIVE, BUT ALSO, UH, THOSE WHO, UH, DIDN'T FAVOR IT, THOUGHT THE AREAS WERE CONFUSING, THE, THE DIFF THE TWO DIFFERENT SURFACE AREAS BEING CONFUSING OR NOT LIVING IN AN AREA OF A PREFERRED SERVICE MODE.
AND, UM, AT THIS POINT, JUST WANNA INTERJECT THAT, UH, THE DIAL AIDE IS A, A SERVICE THAT WHILE TALKING PRIMARILY ABOUT THE FIXED ROUTE, UH, THE DIAL AIDE SERVICE IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO OFFER TO COMPLY WITH, UH, CIVIL RIGHTS AND A D A, UH, LAWS TO, UH, TO CONTINUE TO OFFER EQUAL ACCESS TO PUBLIC SERVICES.
SO I JUST DO WANNA MENTION THAT, UH, WE DID TAKE THE, UH, TAKE THE, UM, SURVEY, OR WE DEVELOPED A SURVEY SPECIFICALLY FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICTS TO, UH, GET THE ONLINE SURVEY FORWARDED THROUGH THE, UH, DISTRICT PERSONNEL.
'CAUSE THEY WOULDN'T LET US, UH, DO THAT DIRECTLY, BUT, WHICH IS FINE.
UH, WE, WE HAD 187 RESPONSES, UM, THROUGH THE DISTRICTS.
AND, UH, THIS FIRST TABLE SHOWS THE, UM, RESPONSES REGARDING TRAVEL TO AND FROM SCHOOL WHERE RESPONDENTS WERE ABLE TO SELECT UP TO TWO RESPONSES.
YOU CAN SEE THE OVERWHELMING, UM, OVERWHELMING NUMBER IS, UH, FOLKS WHO ARE DROPPED OFF.
UM, THEN, UH, SECONDLY, UH, FOLKS WHO WALK OR DRIVE A ALONE OR WITH PASSENGERS, WE ASKED, UM, IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER RIDING THE GO WEST SHUTTLE IF CONVENIENT.
AND, UH, 125 RESPONDED THAT THEY WOULD, AND 40 OTHERS RESPONDED THAT THEY WOULD NOT.
AND THESE ARE SOME, UH, THIS IS MORE INFORMATION FROM THE, UH, STUDENT SURVEY OF THE PO POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO RIDE ON THE GO WEST SHUTTLE.
WHAT WOULD THEY BE? AND THE TOP THREE WERE A MOBILE APP WITH REAL-TIME INFORMATION.
UH, NEXT WAS, UH, BETTER INFORMATION ON THE GO WEST SHUTTLE, AND THE THIRD WAS A LOWER FEE.
AND OF THE THREE ALTERNATIVES, UH, 46, UH, PREFERRED THE, UH, REALIGNMENT 41, UH, PREFERRED THE ON DEMAND.
AND, UH, 26 PREFERRED THE MIX AND, UH, THE BALANCE OF FOLKS, UH, SKIP, SKIP.
THE, UH, QUESTION WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THE DISTRICTS, UH, AND TALKED TO THE DISTRICT PERSONNEL, WEST COVIN UNIFIED, UH, WAS CONCERNED IN LOOKING AT THE ALTERNATIVES AND THE REALIGNMENT OF THE, UH, LINES.
THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE ELIMINATION OF THE BLUE LINE, WHICH SERVICES THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE, UH, CITY AND, UH, STUDENTS WHO ARE POTENTIALLY LIVE IN THAT AREA.
THEY ALSO HAD A PREFERENCE FOR A, UM, A SHUTTLE VERSUS A MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL CONGESTION AT THE, UH, MAYBE BELL TIMES.
SO WHEN THE WEST CONVENIENT, UNIFIED HAVE A ISSUE ABOUT THE ROUTE, HAVE, HOW MANY THEIR STUDENTS ARE TAKING THIS ROUTE? DO THEY TELL YOU? BECAUSE THEY CAN COMPLAIN, BUT THEY HAVE TO TELL US HOW MANY STUDENT, HOW MANY, OKAY.
SO WE CAN UTILIZE THE SERVICE.
TO, AND I THINK THE, THE, THE REASON IS HOW WE OKAY.
UH, UH, ACCOMMODATE THE STUDENT.
A LOT OF STUDENT HAVE TO WALK HOME OR THEY CAN TAKE THE GO WEST OR MM-HMM.
SO WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE STUDENT FOR THEM TO TAKE THE OKAY, UH, MASS TRANSIT, RIGHT? UH, NO, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, BUT THE RIDERSHIP ON THE LINE IS PRETTY LOW.
SO THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ROUTE, BUT THEY VERY ALLOW TO TAKE IN OKAY, THIS RIDE.
THE COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED HAD EXPRESSED, UH, CONCERN THAT, UH, THE REALIGNMENT WOULD NOT, UH, SERVE COVINA HIGH SCHOOL AS IT, AS IT, UH, CURRENTLY DOES, AND IT MISSES THE SOUTH HILLS HIGH T AND A A, AGAIN, SAME QUESTION.
DID THEY TELL YOU HOW MANY STUDENTS UTILIZE THIS ROUTE? UH, NO, THEY DID NOT.
THIS AGAIN, SO WEST COVIN UNIFIED DIDN'T TELL US COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED.
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LOAD RIDERSHIP ON THAT LINE.AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE TWO LINES THAT, SO HOW, HOW CAN THEY HAVE A CONCERN IF THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS TAKING THEIR RIDE? WE WANNA PROVIDE FOR THE STUDENT, OKAY.
IF PARENT CANNOT PICK THEM UP, THEY CAN TAKE THE OKAY.
AND THE CHANCES TO GO TO A HOME.
SO THEY CAN GO TO THE SCHOOL, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO, BUT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION, THE RIDERSHIP, HOW MANY THAT WE TRY TO ACCOMMODATE.
THIS IS SOME LAST TIME WE ASKED AT SCHOOL TO PARTICIPATE, BUT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE US THE GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY STUDENTS NEED THAT, RIGHT.
AND HOW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE FOR THOSE KIDS.
THE, AND THOSE ARE RELATIVELY LOW NUMBERS, UH, DAILY AVERAGE ON BOTH OF THOSE LINES.
WHEN YOU SAY NO LOW NUMBER, HOW LOW IS THE LOW, UH, AVERAGE 10, UM, AVERAGE IS, UH, 10 OR 15 ON THOSE PARTICULAR LINES.
AND WHEN, WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOLS, WE JUST A ASKED THEM WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THE, THE, UH, OF, OF THE, UM, THE REALIGNMENT AND IF, IF THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKE A SUGGESTION, WHAT WOULD IT BE? AND THAT WOULD BE TO CAPTURE THEIR SCHOOLS.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S, UM, I GUESS THEY WEREN'T SAYING THEY WERE GETTING HURT NEGATIVELY, UH, BUT, UH, THEY WERE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT SERVICE FOR, FOR, UH, FOLKS WHO MAY LIVE IN THOSE AREAS.
SPECI, UM, SOUTH HILLS IS, IS MISSED ALTOGETHER.
AND SO THERE, THERE IS NO RIDERSHIP.
AND SO THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS SAID, WELL, MAYBE IF YOU SWUNG THAT LINE OUT A LITTLE FURTHER, YOU WOULD HAVE RIDERSHIP AND BE ABLE TO SERVE THAT, THAT, UH, HIGH SCHOOL.
WHEN YOU SAY EXTENDED MO, HOW FAR OR THE EXTENSION? WELL, WELL, CURRENTLY THEY'VE GOT, IT'S, UH, THE GREEN LINE.
SHE WAS LOOKING AT THE GREEN LINE SPECIFICALLY.
AND, UH, WHERE IT GOES DOWN, UH, CITRUS AND, UH, MAYBE SWING THAT, UH, OVER TO BARRANCA FROM COR, TAKE CONTINUE ON CORTEZ AND GO SOUTH ON BARRANCA AND COME DOWN, CAMERON.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE ANOTHER MAJOR BLOCK, I THINK.
BUT THAT, THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
UM, THAT WAS JUST A COMMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED WHEN WE ASKED FOR THEIR FEEDBACK.
UH, UH, I KNOW THEY HAVE A BUS STOP AT THE BARRANCA, AND THEY HAVE A BUS STOP ON THE CITRA CROSS STREET OF ES.
I THINK THAT WHY IS FOR FOUR HILL TRANSIT.
AND THE, TOO, THEY HAVE AN ANOTHER BUS STOP ON THE, ON BARAS.
SO, SO HOW WE USING THE, THE BUS STOP TO OKAY.
UH, WORK WITH, UH, UM, GO WEST.
THEY WANT TO CREATE A ROUND, RIGHT? RIGHT.
UH, WELL, THEY, THEY, UH, THE DISTRICT'S FEEDBACK TO US WAS JUST SAYING, IF, IF YOU COULD, MAYBE YOU CAN EXTEND THAT LINE OUT TO BARRANCA FROM CITRUS.
AND SO, UH, THIS TABLE SUMMARIZES THE KEY ASPECTS OF THESE, UH, THESE VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES.
THE FIXED ROUTE, MICRO TRANSIT, AND, UH, TRANSIT NETWORK COMPANY, UH, THE VEHICLE ROUTING, ACCESS TO SERVICE, BOOKING A RIDE, AVAILABILITY AND OPERATING HOURS, AND THE AGE TO RIDE ON A COMPANY, THE BILLING, OTHER, OTHER ASSOCIATED COSTS AND BRANDING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPORT IS, IS, UH, FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF OPTIONS OF SERVICES AND, UH, TO GIVE, GIVE US, UH, STAFF DIRECTION, WE'RE SEEKING DIRECTION REGARDING A PRE, UH, PREFERRED, UH, TRANSIT OPTION.
SO WE CAN INITIATE A PROCUREMENT PROCESS, UH, WHICH MAY BE A, A ONE OR A MIX OF THESE ALTERNATIVES.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE STATUS QUO IS AN OPTION AS WELL.
UH, THE COUNCIL DIRECTIONAL WILL SERVE AS A BASIS FOR A SCOPE OF WORK FOR A, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR TRANSIT SERVICES, THE, UH, PROCESS TO DEVELOP THE SPECS AND REQUEST FOR AND EVALUATE A PRO, UM, PROPOSALS, AWARD CONTRACT, AND PHASE IN AND LAUNCH THE SERVICES EXPECTED TO TAKE UP TO A YEAR, DEPENDING UPON THE OPTION.
AND AS THE CURRENT AGREEMENTS WITH MV TRANSIT ARE SET TO EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, UH, FOR THEIR EXTENSIONS OF THE AGREEMENTS WITH MV TRANSIT ARE NEEDED TO CONTINUE THIS SHUTTLE AND, UH, DIAL A RIDE SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS.
MV HAS PROVIDED A COST PROPOSAL FOR STATUS QUO, UH, SERVICE THAT'S, UH, INCLUDED AS A, AS ATTACHMENT ONE.
AND IT REPRESENTS A 4.7% INCREASE FROM THE CURRENT YEAR.
THERE'S SUFFICIENT FUNDING INCLUDED IN THE APPROVED, UH, 2324 BUDGET.
THERE'S NO GENERAL FUND IMPACT.
THERE IS A, UH, A TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT BY EITHER PARTY WITH A 30 DAY NOTICE.
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UH, REQUESTING THE, THE APPROVAL OF THOSE EXTENSIONS AS WELL.SO, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO, MAD MAYOR.
UM, UH, KELLY, UH, IF, IF RIDERSHIP IS RELATIVELY LOW, IS THERE A WAY, WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WOULD THERE BE A WAY THAT WE COULD PROCEED FORWARD WITH, WITH MICRO TRANSIT AS A MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFICIENT WAY OF, OF PROVIDING, UH, SERVICE? OR WOULD, WOULD THERE NEED TO BE AN INTERIM STEP OF DOING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW AND, AND JUST, AND, AND GIVING YOU MORE TIME TO DO THAT WHILE CONTINUING THE CURRENT CONTRACT TO, TO IMPROVE THE, UH, THE RIDERSHIP AND TO, TO, BASICALLY, MY ITEMS FELL, BASICALLY NOT HAVE EMPTY BUSES RUN.
DRIVING AROUND MY PREDECESSOR REALLY WAS A PET PEEVE OF HIS, AND IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS FOR ME TOO, WHERE IF WE, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE BUSES DRIVING EMPTY ALL AROUND TOWN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE NOT TO HAVE, UM, NO TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD IN A WAY THAT WILL, UH, PROVIDE, UH, UH, RESIDENTS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION THEY NEED, BUT WITH, WITH, WHILE MINIMIZING THE, THE UNNECESSARY EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH DRIVING AROUND, DRIVING BUSES AROUND THAT ARE MOSTLY EMPTY MM-HMM.
UH, WE, WE'VE DONE THAT, UH, IN THE PAST, THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, DISCONTINUED A COUPLE OF, UH, TIMES THAT WERE VERY, UH, VERY LOW, UH, THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
BUT, UM, DRIVING THAT DRIVE, DRIVING THE RIDERSHIP UP, IT SEEMS WE'VE, UM, SEEMS TO BE, IT SEEMS TO BE DIFFICULT.
OUR, OUR, OUR SHEL SHELTERS ARE IN BAD SHAPES AND WE NEED A SIGNAGE, UH, AND, UH, SO FORTH TO, TO, UM, SHOW THOSE THINGS.
BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT, UH, WE CAN BRING UP THE RIDERSHIP IN A, A, UM, A FIXED ROUTE SORT OF SITUATION, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE PROPOSING SOME OF THESE ALTERNATIVES TO POTENTIALLY, UH, LAUNCH PILOT PROGRAMS AND SEE IF THAT HELPS.
SO WOULD THERE BE A WAY THAT WE COULD ELIMINATE THE TWO LOWEST, UH, UH, THE, THE TWO ROUTES WITH THE LOWEST RIDERSHIP OF TWO AND 3000, AND THEN TAKE THOSE COSTS AND THEN DEDICATE THOSE TO MICRO TRANSIT FOR THOSE AREAS SO THAT WAY THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD'VE USED THOSE SERVICE, UH, WOULD'VE USED THE FIXED ROUTES THAT ARE NOW GONE, COULD NOW HAVE, HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MICRO TRANSIT? YES, WE APPROACH PROTE.
SO, UM, SO FROM, FROM FROM THE SURVEY, IT, IT SEEMS THAT THE, JUST THE, THE CULTURE OF, OF THE COMMUNITY IS, IS THEY DRIVE ON THEIR OWN.
THAT, THAT PEOPLE REALLY AREN'T USING, UH, THE PUBLIC TRANSIT.
SO WHATEVER PUBLIC TRANSIT WE DO, UH, PROVIDE IS, IS REALLY ALWAYS GONNA HAVE A SMALL, UM, RIDERSHIP.
WOULD, WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S TRUE? UH, POTEN POTENTIALLY.
I, I THINK THERE'S A STRONG CASE TO BE MADE FOR THAT.
AND THERE'S A S SCAG STUDY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UH, TALKING ABOUT RIDERSHIP AND, UH, COMING TO THAT CONCLUSION THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CARS AND, AND THE RELATIVE, THE CAR OWNERSHIP, THE EXPLOSION IN CAR OWNERSHIP, AND THE RELATIVELY CHEAP GAS THAT FOLKS WERE OPTING TO DRIVE, DRIVE ALONE.
SO, UM, AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN, UH, I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE CITIZENS WHO HAD RAISED IN A TOWN HALL THAT DID, DID HE DIDN'T THINK THAT, UH, RIDERSHIP WOULD BE AFFECTED BY A CHANGE IN, IN THE TYPE OF THING, THING THAT WAS OFFERED, THE MODE THAT WAS OFFERED.
SO, I, I, BECAUSE I, I THINK MY CONCERN WITH, WITH, UM, UBER AND LYFT AND MICRO TRANSIT, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAD THE PROGRAM FOR THE OLDER RIDERS, UH, AND, AND WE EVEN LOWERED, DO WE HAVE NEW NUMBERS AFTER WE MADE THE CHANGES? YES, YES.
WE, WE HAVEN'T PROVIDED THOSE, THOSE ARE GONNA COME IN A SEPARATE REPORT TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S GONNA COME ON THE FIFTH.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, WE'RE NOW AT ABOUT 85 IN TERMS OF PARTICIPANTS, WHICH IS, UH, ABOUT DOUBLED.
AND WE'VE DONE ABOUT, UH, 740 RIDES AND SPENT ABOUT $5,500.
SO, UH, JUST BECAUSE THE, THE, THE NUMBERS ARE, ARE, ARE SO LOW, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK TO, TO, TO INCREASE TRAFFIC, UM, WITH, WITH MICRO TRANSIT OR
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UBER AND LYFT, UM, WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T, AREN'T REALLY USING IT ANYWAY.SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE DEADHEADING RIGHT AROUND THE TOWN VERSUS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE EMPTY BUSES, BUT THE BUSES DO SERVE A SMALL POPULATION.
THAT, THAT'S KIND OF MY THINKING.
UH, COUNCIL, NA, NO, I, I, I THINK, UM, THE WIDER SHIP GOING DOWNHILL IS HAPPEN TO ALL THE MASS TRANSITS, INCLUDING THE, UH, METRO FULL HILL AND THE GO WEST.
JUST, PEOPLE JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TO RIDE.
SO, UH, TOGETHER OR TO THE PLACE OR TO PEOPLE THEY DON'T KNOW.
ESPECIALLY WE, WE WENT THROUGH THE COVID OKAY.
AND THAT KIND OF CREATE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO IN THE CONFINEMENT.
AND THEY SHARE WITH SOME PEOPLE THEY DON'T KNOW.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT POSSIBLE IS THE ISSUE, THE RIDERSHIP AND THE CONVENIENT ABOUT OKAY.
TO GO TO ANY PLACES AND, UH, WHEN THEY GO AND SHOW UP WHEN THE FOOD TRANSIT SHOW UP.
BUT PEOPLE STILL TAKING THE BUSES, PEOPLE TAKING BUSES.
SO WE, SO HOW, HOW WE COME, THEY A SMALL POPULATION, THE SENIOR, OR SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A DRIVER LICENSE OR THEIR DRIVER LICENSE BECAUSE D U I, THEY GET REVOKED.
SO WE WANNA ACCOMMODATE THOSE PERSON CANNOT DRIVE OR CANNOT DRIVE TEMPORARILY OR FOREVER.
SO, SO, SO HOW WE ACCOMMODATE THOSE PEOPLE? SO I THINK, AND I HAVE, UH, I THINK SOMEBODY SENT ME, UH, UH, INFORMATION.
UH, FROM, I THINK, OKAY, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS EDU UH, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER FROM, UH, SIMON WRIGHT, HE SENT ME ABOUT INFORMATION REGARDING, I THINK I SENT YOU THE CITY ACTING CITY MANAGER TO, TO REVIEW IT ABOUT SAN GABRIEL W RIGHT? OKAY.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE OF CT SAN GABRIEL CITY.
THEY, THEY DO SAN GABRIEL WRIGHT.
AND THEN THEY HAVE, THEY, IT'S A SHARE RIDE, BUT A SMALLER CAR.
SO THIS IS ONE THING AND ANOTHER THING, YOUR CITY MONROVIA, RIGHT? OKAY.
AND THEY DO WHAT THEY DO? LYFT? YEAH.
IT'S MY CITY'S WEST COVINO, BUT
UM, AND WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES, UM, YOU CAN GO WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES FOR THAT $3 FARE RIDE.
SO I, I KNOW MON LAST TIME I HAVE A MONROVIA OKAY.
BECKY TO PROVIDE ME ALL THE INFORMATION REGARDING, AND SHE SAY THEY'RE DOING IT BY, SO THEY HAVE
AND TO AVOID, OKAY, THE EMPTY BUSES, I SAW IT TOO.
SO HOW CAN WE DO SOMETHING? SHOULD WE, WE ALIGN, OKAY.
THE ROUTE WHERE IT BE, UH, BUT THE, THE, THE SCHOOL DOESN'T PROVIDE US, UH, THE HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY STUDENT WHAT THE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION THEY SAY WE DON'T LIKE IT, UH, MAYBE DO THIS AND THAT, BUT WHERE IS THE DATA WITH THE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE FOR WE CAN WE DESIGN SO THIS STUDENT CAN UTILIZE TO USE.
SO AGAIN, NOT WHEN YOU'RE 16, 17, NOT EVERYBODY DRIVE AND NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD IT TO ANOTHER CAR FOR THE KID TO DRIVE.
SO WE NEED TO SEE HOW CAN WE ACCOMMODATE ON THE LONG HIGH SCHOOL, WEST COVINA HIGH SCHOOL AND, UH, OKAY.
AND, UH, SOUTH HILL HIGH SCHOOL.
AND, UH, OKAY, WHAT'S THAT? ANOTHER ONE NEXT TO WEST COVINA HIGH.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT, A LOT OF KID.
SO HOW WE DESIGN, SO, SO TODAY, WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO, BECAUSE THIS IS A FREAKING A LOT OF INFORMATION, OKAY? IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE A THREE HEAVY DUTY INFORMATION AND MY, MY BRAIN'S GOING TO EXPLODE.
OKAY? AND SO JUST FOR ALL THESE THREE, BECAUSE PREVIOUS ONE IS ALREADY HEAVY DUTY.
NOW YOU GOT THIS ONE, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE ONE BEER AND WINE.
SO, SO WE DON'T KNOW, ALL THIS INFORMATION CAN REALLY DIGEST TO, TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT ROUTE.
SO, SO, SO I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE, OKAY.
THE OPERATOR CAN SHARE WITH US WHAT THEIR SUGGESTION, SO WE CAN GIVE YOU MAYBE A ONE YEAR EXTINCTION SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT.
WE ARE NOT GOING NOT TOTALLY ABANDON YOU.
WE, WE WANT TO FIND A WAY, UH, WHICH WAY WILL BE UTILIZED? THE, THE, THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT FROM GENERAL FUND, BUT THIS STILL IS TAXPAYERS MONEY TO UTILIZE, FOR PEOPLE TO USE.
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I THINK YOU FEEL BAD TO DRIVING AN EMPTY BUSES ALL THE PLACES TOO.SO, SO YOU WANT TO COME UP TO, CAN WE, CAN WE INVITE THEM TO SAY SOMETHING, YES OR NO? YES.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING RIDERSHIP.
I WANTED TO KNOW IF, UM, DO YOU PROVIDE AND WE COME UP.
DO YOU PROVIDE PASSES? UM, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE OUR, LIKE OUR SUMMER CAMP, SOMETIMES WE DO THE, THE METRO METRO COMES OUT, THEY DO A PRESENTATION AND THEN THEY GIVE US, THEY GIVE EACH CHILD THE PASS AND THEN THEY COULD REFILL WITH THEIR PARENTS AND SO FORTH.
DO, DO WE PROVIDE ANYTHING LIKE THIS TO THE C I'M NOT, I'M NOT AWARE.
SO WE DO PROVIDE SUMMER CAMP, UM, SPECIALS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THEM ALL SUMMER.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THEM ALL SUMMER.
UH, WE PICK UP ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 20 TO EVEN 30 KIDS WITH, UH, SOME ADULTS.
AND WE TRANSFER THEM TO, WE TAKE 'EM TO THE MOVIES, TO PARKS, TO DIFFERENT EVENTS LIKE THAT.
UM, WE DON'T PROVIDE PASSES, BUT WE JUST TRANSPORT THE GROUP.
DO THEY PAY FOR THAT OR IS THERE A SPECIAL NO.
IS THAT EVEN PROMOTED? BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT.
UM, IT'S DONE THROUGH THE SENIOR CENTER.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST DO, UH, WITH THE CITY'S CITY.
I'M SORRY, THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE, UH, DAYCARE PROGRAMS, DAYCARE PROGRAM.
SO, BUT SO FOR, OH, JUST FOR THE DAYCARE.
SO IF THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY, I MEAN CITY OF WEST COVINA FOR ALL THEIR, UM, PARTICIPANTS OR PROGRAM.
I MEAN, I'M JUST FIGURING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE LIKE OUR, UM, SPORTS, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S A KEY ELEMENT THERE WHERE THEY, THEY, THEY DO NEED, UM, TRANSPORTATION AS GROUPS, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS AND STUFF.
SO IS THIS EVEN OFFERED LIKE, TO THE SCHOOLS? UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF OUR BUSES ARE MUCH CHEAPER THAN THE SCHOOL BUSES, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO IMPROVE RIDERSHIP, UM, THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANSWERS OR WE, WE, UH, DO HAVE A RECREATION TRANSIT PROGRAM AND WE DO, UM, OFFER, UH, SUBSIDIZED RISE.
I THINK, UH, SENIORS TAKE, UH, BUS CHARTER BUSES TO THE CASINOS AND TAKE, UH, OTHER, OTHER TRIPS LIKE THAT.
THE, UM, LET'S SEE, THE, UH, DAYCARE, PART OF THE DAYCARE PROGRAMS, UH, WE USE THE, UM, USE THE SHUTTLES FOR TO TRANSPORT THE KIDS WITHIN, WITHIN TOWN.
AND, UH, WE HAVE MADE, UM, SHUTTLES AVAILABLE FOR, FOR, UM, DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
SO I COULD ALSO ADD, WE'VE BEEN USING THEM AS WELL FOR EVENTS LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY.
UM, SO, SO THE REASON I BRING YOU UP IS YOU GUYS KNOW WEST COVINA.
YOU OPERATE WEST COA FOR A LONG TIME, OKAY? AND, UH, I WANTED TO SAY, OKAY, COUPLE EVENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, JULY 4TH, WE HAVE YOUR BUSES COMING IN AND THEN PICK PEOPLE UP AND OKAY.
OKAY? THINKS, UH, NOBODY COMPLAIN, EVERYBODY HAPPY, OKAY? AND WE DON'T HAVE A FIGHT IN THE BUS, RIGHT?
SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE, WE, WE NEED SOME OF THE, THIS KIND OF SERVICE OKAY? AND THIS, SO, BUT HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER? OKAY? YOU CAN FIND A ROUTE.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A WASTE OF GAS AND POLLUTION, AND THEN WE HAVE NOBODY INSIDE THE CAR.
SO, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTION? BECAUSE SO MANY ROUTE, AND IT'S SO CONFUSING FOR WE NOT PROFESSIONAL, OKAY.
ARE WE PART-TIMER AND NOW WE SIT OVER HERE, TRY TO DECIDE THE FUTURE OF THE ROUTE.
IT'S JUST TOO SCARY, BUT WE DON'T WANNA MAKE A MISTAKE.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE, I THINK IT'S A WORKING PROCESS.
WE WORK AND, AND WE WORK TOGETHER AND TRY TO, HOW WE IMPROVE IT, WE, WE NEED A DI R I, WE ALREADY IMPROVED FOR SENIOR.
I HOPE WE HAVE A MORE RIDERSHIP FOR THE DI R, RIGHT? DO WE HAVE A MORE RIDERSHIP? YES, IT HAS INCREASED.
HAS INCREASED, RIGHT? BECAUSE BEFORE, WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A SATURDAY NOW.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GO OUT, WE WANT THEM TO GO OUT.
SO, SO THEY CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO, WE, WE EVEN ALLOW THEM TO GO STREAM, MILE OUT OF CITY BOUNDARY SO THEY CAN GO TO ANY PLACES THEY WANT.
WE DON'T WANT TO CONFINE THEM IN A PLACE AT THE SAME TIME WE DID THE, THE UBER TRYOUT.
DO WE HAVE A RIDERSHIP FOR THAT? YES.
WE USE UP THE MONEY YET
SO, SO INCREMENT A LITTLE BIT GROW, OKAY.
OKAY, SO, SO, BUT, BUT SO HOW, YOUR SUGGESTION, HOW, WHAT SHOULD WE DO BASED ON ALL THIS KELLY? OKAY.
DETAILING AND, UH, I THINK YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME, THIS IS FOR YOU AND KELLY, RIGHT? OR ONLY KELLY? THIS IS FOR YOU.
FOR THE MYSELF AND, UH, THE CONSULTANT.
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FROM THE CONSULTANT FOR THE LAST GUY.WE PROVIDED A LOT OF, UH, INFORMATION, UH, WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WORK, WE WORKED WITH DIRECTLY WITH THE CONSULTANT ON INFORMATION.
WHEN HE DEVELOPED THESE OPTIONS, UM, HOW DO YOU THINK, OKAY, THE POINT IS THAT SINCE YOU ARE DRIVING THE BUS, YOUR COMPANY, HOW YOU THINK WHICH ONE WILL CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE RIDERSHIP? SO A COMMON DAY, OUR SENIOR, A COMMON DAY, THE PEOPLE DON'T, CANNOT DRIVE A COMMON DAY.
AND THEN THEY, WE SAY, OH, CONSIDERATION.
SO YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT ROUTE SHOULD BE BETTER.
UH, THEN THE CONSULTANT, WELL, UM, AND, AND I, WELL I'M JUDY SMITH.
I'LL JUST INTRODUCE MYSELF TO SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS, UH, THAT ARE ON THE, ON THE, UH, COUNCIL.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE, THERE SHOULD BE A, PROBABLY A OPTION THAT WOULD KIND OF, UH, COMBINE THE POSSIBLY MICRO TRANSIT ALONG WITH THE REGULAR FIXED ROUTE SERVICES.
I KNOW THERE'S AN OPTION ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT THAT, I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT FOR YOU GUYS TO GET A REPORT TONIGHT AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT AM I GONNA SELECT? I REALLY THINK THAT, THAT THERE SHOULD BE A, A MEETING WITH SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY OR MAYBE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO ACTUALLY, UH, WALK THROUGH ALL THE OPTIONS AND, AND REALLY BE ABLE TO SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING AT, I THINK MAYOR CAN TAKE THE RIGHT WITH YOU GUY.
BUT I THINK A WORKING GROUP, UH, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, A WORKING GROUP SHOULD, UH, LOOK AT THE CONSULTANTS' OPTIONS, UH, AND UH, DETERMINE IF EITHER ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS WORK OR MAYBE TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND DEVELOP YOUR OWN OPTION, UH, PATH FORWARD WITH YOUR STAKEHOLDERS IN INPUT.
BUT DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION? MY POINT IS, SINCE YOU ARE DRIVING, I HAVE A SUGGESTION OF, OF HAVING A, UH, PORTION OF THE, A FIXED ROUTE IN SOME AREAS AND A MICRO TRANSIT IN THE AREAS WHERE THE RIDERSHIP IS, IS NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS AN OPTION THAT WAS OUTLINED BY THE CONSULTANT, BUT IT, YOU MAY DETERMINE, UM, THE BOUNDARIES THAT HE APPLIED TO THIS PROCESS MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU DEEM IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO I, THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S NEEDS TO BE MORE TIME SPENT PROBABLY DELVING INTO ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS TO DETERMINE WHICH IS THE BEST FOR THE CITY.
BECAUSE MY PERSONAL WILL TRUST YOU GUY MORE DUE TO YOU DRIVING, YOU OPERATE.
I ALSO, I ALSO THINK THAT WITH THE RED AND BLUE LINE BEING THE LEAST ACTIVE LINES, I DO THINK THAT A REALIGNMENT, UH, MAYBE INCLUDING, I BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT INCLUDING, UM, THE WEST COVINA HIGH SCHOOL MIGHT IMPROVE SOME OF THE NUMBERS OKAY.
AND GET YOUR INPUT, BECAUSE YOUR INPUT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
MY WHAT I'M THINKING, BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW OKAY, THE AREA, YOU GUYS KNOW YOUR BUSES BEING EMPTY, YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE IS THE PEOPLE, MAYBE WE CAN TRY HERE, TRY THERE, AND TO PICK UP THE PEOPLE.
SO IN THAT WAY WE REALLY SERVING THE PEOPLE RATHER THAN JUST DRIVING THE BUS.
SO, SO YOU FEEL LIKE IT IS SUCH A WASTE ANYWAY, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE MONEY, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO JUST WASTE THE ENERGY OR WASTE OF TIME AND THE, THE BUS DRIVER JUST LIKE, WHAT THE HECK I'M DOING HERE.
SO, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN CREATE SOMETHING OKAY.
KELLY, CAN WE, IS THAT ONE OF THE OPTIONS? YEAH.
CAN WE DO THAT? WE, IT'S A WORKING PROCESS, RIGHT? THAT SHE JUST MENTIONED? YEAH.
COMMON TO ADD MAYBE HIGH SCHOOL INTUIT TO GET THE ROUTE ALIGNMENT, SO IN THAT WAY OKAY.
AND, UH, THEN MAYBE EVEN MATCHING WITH A FULL HEELED TRANSIT.
SO GO OVER HERE, THEY CAN HOP IN THE TRANSITS TO GO TO, YEAH.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT SO THAT KELLY CAN HEAR? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WERE RECOMMENDING? OKAY.
TO REALIGN THE RED AND THE, AND THE BLUE LINES TO POSSIBLY INCLUDE OR CONNECT WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
IS THAT AN OPTION THAT'S ALREADY ON THE TABLE HERE OR NOT? UM, YEAH, THERE, THERE WAS AN OPTION TO MODIFY SOME OF THOSE EXISTING LINES TO, IN, TO INCLUDE THOSE, UH, INCLUDE THE SCHOOLS.
UM, IT WAS THAT LAST SLIDE WITH THE, UH, THE HIGHLIGHTS ON IT TO MAYBE ALTER THOSE ROUTES A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I THINK, UH, DUE TO YOU PROVIDE SO MUCH INFORMATION OKAY.
AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE REALLY CAN HELP.
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HERE TO PROVIDE MAYBE SOME FINE TUNE.AND, UH, AND THEN MAYBE MAIL CAN GO TO HAVE A RIDE.
SITUATION WILL BE, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF FINALIZE WHICH ROUTE THAT CAN REALLY PICK UP MORE PEOPLE AND WE, WE CONTINUE TO CON WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROGRESS AND CAN TO MAKE A ROUTE THAT WILL BE MORE SUFFICIENT TO MAYBE NORTH AND SOUTH, NORTH AND SOUTH AND EASTERN WEST AND TO KIND OF, UH, OKAY.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? DID YOU SAY RED AND GREEN? RED AND BLUE.
SO, BECAUSE THIS IS WHY NOT JUST ONE POTION.
NO, MAYBE YOU CAN GET MORE INPUT.
HAVE, HAVE KELLY, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM? OKAY.
WHY YOU DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION TO WHY YOU DOING OVER HERE? I'M SO CONFUSED IF I'M, ARE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT AN OPTION TWO? NOT NECESSARILY THE ONES HERE, BUT A MIXTURE OF, UM, ON DEMAND AND THE FIXED TROUT.
YEAH, THE MICRO AND, AND THE FIXED.
SO LIKE KEEPING A SHUTTLE AND POSSIBLE WE'RE, WE'RE LISTENING TO WHATEVER THEY'RE SAYING, THEY'RE, THERE'S OBJECTION THEY OPERATE BECAUSE WE DON'T, I DON'T RIDE THE BUS.
ALI, THEN YOU ALI IS THE PROFESSIONAL.
SO MADAM MAYOR, JUST AS TO SORT OF SUPPLEMENT, WOULD THERE BE A WAY, 'CAUSE I'VE, I'VE CALLED AND SOMETIMES I'VE BEEN TOLD YOU HAVE TO WAIT A FEW DAYS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ALL BOOKED FOR DIAL AIDE, YOU KNOW, FOR MY PARENTS AND SUCH.
SO IS THERE A WAY TO SORT OF DO A HYBRID WHERE THERE COULD BE A MODIFICATION OF THE FIXED ROUTES, UH, AS DESCRIBED, BUT ALSO IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A CALL-IN CENTER FEATURE ALREADY, FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY KNOW-HOW TO USE THEIR APPS, LET'S SAY THEY'RE SENIOR CITIZENS OR PEOPLE WITH SIGNIFICANT DISABILITIES WHO, WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT FOR THEM TO, TO CALL IN AND THEN YOU WOULD TAP IN AND PARTNER UP WITH HAVING BOOK, UH, HELPING TO BOOK, UH, PEOPLE ON THE MICRO TRANSIT.
IS IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? 'CAUSE I'VE HEARD OF THAT IN OTHER PLACES, BUT IS, UM, A MADAM, MADAME CITY MANAGER, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY TO SORT OF ENABLE THEM TO MAXIMIZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WHERE PEOPLE COULD CALL IN AND ASK FOR MICROT TRANSIT, OR THEY COULD DO DIAL, RIGHT, BUT THEN DIAL RIGHT ISN'T AVAILABLE THEN RIGHT AWAY THEN THEY CAN SAY, WELL, WE HAVE THIS OTHER OPTION, AND THEN, THEN MICRO TRANSIT CAN BE LEVERAGED THROUGH THEM, SO THAT WAY THEY COULD BE ALMOST A BOOKING AGENT.
AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A WAY THAT WE, WE COULD STILL LEVERAGE THEIR SERVICES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, DO IT EFFICIENTLY.
I, I, I, BEFORE YOU ANSWER, I WANT TO ADD ON WHY HIS QUESTION.
WHEN YOU SAY MICRO TRANSIT, IS THAT SIMILAR TO WHAT I JUST MENTIONED SAINT GABRIEL, RIGHT? SHARE RIDE, YOU DIAL, THEN THEY SHOW UP AND THE PICK UP PEOPLE, IS THAT SIMILAR TO THE MICRO CENSUS? THAT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT.
IT'S LIKE A, IT REALLY, MICRO TRANSIT IS REALLY LIKE A DIAL RIDE.
IT'S A HONESTLY, BUT IT'S A SHARE, SHARE, RIDE SHARE, SHARE RIDE.
THEY JUST IMPLEMENT RIGHT NOW.
SO THE ENTIRE, YOU HEARD ABOUT ST.
UH, THE RIDE IN SAN GABRIEL, IT GOES SAN GABRIEL, RIGHT? OKAY.
BUT IN THE BUSES, THEY HAVE ST.
GABRIEL RIDE AND THEY, IT'S A SHARE RIDE.
BUT YOU DIAL OR YOU PUT THE APP, THEN THEY SHOW UP TO YOU.
GO STEP AND THEY PICK YOU UP AND THEY GO TO, OKAY.
AND THEN, THEN, THEN IT'S MEANING YOU NEED IT, YOU HAVE THEM.
WE, WE, WE ACTUALLY RUN A MICRO TRANSIT, UH, PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES.
AND WE DO HAVE THE OPTION WHERE THE PERSON CAN, UH, EITHER CALL IN IF THEY DON'T, THEY, IF THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE APP OR HAVE A TECH SAVVY OR THEY CAN USE THE APP TO BOOK THEIR RIDE.
SO THERE, THERE'S, THERE IS THAT OPTION TO DO, TO DO JUST THAT WITH, UH, WITH THE MICRO TRANSIT SERVICES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE, MUST HAVE THE APP IN ORDER TO USE THE SERVICE.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN DIAL, YOU CAN CALL IN AND GET AN AGENT ON THE PHONE.
A LOT OF SENIOR, THEY, THEY HAVE A HARD TIME TO GO TO THE APP.
THEY LIKE TO USE THE PHONE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND, UH, IMPROVE REALIGNMENT ROUTE TO TRY TO FIND, WE CAN DO A MASS TRANSIT AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WE CAN HAVE A MICRO TRANSITS LIKE SIMILAR TO ST.
GABRIEL, RIGHT? THEN OVER HERE WE CALL WESTCO, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND, UH, IN THE BOUNDARY OF A CITY, THEN THEY PAY LIKE $3 OKAY.
AND THEY CAN GO TO THE ENTIRE CITY ANY PLACES.
I DO WANNA ADD THOUGH, ON THE MICRO TRANSIT COMPONENT, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, WHEN YOU SERVICE SCHOOLS ON A DIAL AIDE SERVICE, THERE IS A SPECIAL CERTIFICATION YOU HAVE TO HAVE.
SO MOST MICRO TRANSIT CON UH, SERVICES WILL NOT DROP RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
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A BLOCK AWAY BECAUSE OF SPECIAL, UH, CERTIFICATIONS REQUIRED BY THE C H P.SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, KELLY, AS WE, AS WE, UM, UH, EXPLORE ALL OF THIS, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, DISCUSS THAT PART OF IT TOO.
IT'S 'CAUSE IT TRYING TO CHANGES THE, THE, UM, THE UH, UH, CERTIFICATION AND A LICENSE OF THE ACTUAL DRIVER.
AND THE BUS HAS TO BE AS REGISTERED A CERTAIN TYPE OF WAY.
IF THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE'LL DROP PICK KIDS UP AT THEIR HOME AND DROP THEM AT, AT THE SCHOOL, AT THE SCHOOL ZONE, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER KIDS, AND THERE WOULD BE BACKGROUND CHECKS WITH THAT.
AND SO THERE'D BE BACKGROUND CHECKS WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE DRIVERS TO MAKE SURE OH YEAH.
SO WE DO THAT NOW, WE DO HAVE BACK ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE, UH, REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH BACKOUT OBJECT.
C H P WILL KIND OF LEAD THAT IN A, IF, IF IN FACT WE, UH, THE PARAMETERS OF THE TYPE OF SERVICE WE PROVIDE, UH, WOULD TAKE KIDS FROM LIKE THEIR HOME TO SCHOOL, DIRECTLY TO SCHOOL AND BACK HOME.
IT'S, IT BECOMES, QUOTE UNQUOTE LIKE A SCHOOL, SCHOOL BUS.
AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT CERTIFICATE, POTENTIALLY A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CERTIFICATION.
PRO TIM, NO, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, ON THE OPTION TWO, WHERE IT WAS THE, THE MIX, WHY WAS THAT MICRO TRANSIT ROUTE, UH, RESTRICTED.
YOU, YOU HAD, IT HAD THAT LIMITED AREA AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE, UM, WERE, WERE AGAINST IT.
WHY, WHY WAS, WHY IS IT RESTRICTED? JUST BECAUSE IT, TO DELINEATE THE TWO SERVICES, I GUESS, I GUESS THAT WAS THE, UH, CONSULTANT'S RATIONALE.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS LIMITED TO, TO THAT AREA.
CAMERON SEEMED TO BE A NATURAL CENTRAL, YOU KNOW, SPLITTING THE CITY IN HALF, I GUESS.
BECAUSE MIC MICRO TRANSIT ISN'T JUST DRIVING AROUND, RIGHT? I'M SORRY.
WELL, MICRO TRANSIT WOULDN'T JUST BE DRIVING AROUND ON THAT ROUTE.
SO I, I GUESS NO, IT'S ON DEMAND, RIGHT? THAT THAT WAS JUST RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHY I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY FOR OPTION OPTION TWO, WHICH WAS A MIX, RIGHT.
WHY WAS THE MI MICRO TRANSIT LIMITED TO THAT SECTION OF THE CITY? IT WAS, UH, CAMERON WAS THE, IS THE BOUNDARY, SO IS EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT? OKAY.
SO ALL THE WAY SOUTH IS, SO IT WAS REALLY SPLITTING THE CITY IN, IN, I THINK IT WAS IN TWO, UH, YOU HAD THE, THE RED LINE, THE PROPOSED RED LINE, UH, OKAY.
SERVING THE NORTH AND THE, THE BALANCE OF THE CITY WAS BEING SERVICED BY, SO THE MICRO TRANSITS COULDN'T GO NORTH OF CAMERON.
AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DIDN'T, WELL, THAT WAS WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
AND SO THAT WAS, UH, CONFUSING FOLKS AND IT YEAH.
'CAUSE WHY WOULD IT STOP THERE? EXACTLY.
I RECALL IT WAS BASED ON RIDERSHIP, SO IT WAS LIKE EVERYTHING SOUTH WITH THE GREEN ROUTE, THE RIDERSHIP.
THAT'S WHY THE CONSULTANT, I THINK, SUGGESTED THAT, THAT IT'D ONLY BE IN THAT AREA THAT O O ONLY, ONLY PEOPLE SOUTH COULD ACCESS THE MICROT TRANSIT.
SO IF YOU LIVED NORTH, YOU, YOU COULD IN ACCESS THE MICRO TRANSIT.
IT'D BE THE FIXED SHUTTLE ROUTE.
TAKE THE SHUTTLE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE RIDERSHIP WAS SUPPOSEDLY FROM.
BUT, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
WE, WE COULD ALLOW MICRO TRANSIT CITYWIDE.
SINCE YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT SAN GABRIEL OR RIGHT.
S SG THIS IS, UH, COUNCILWOMAN DENISE.
THEY POST ON THE FACEBOOK, SO, OKAY.
AND SOME PEOPLE FORWARD TO ME SAY, SINCE WE WANT TO DISCUSS THIS, SO, SO MAYBE I NEED, DO YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION? SORRY, COUNCILMAN.
HUH? WE DO HAVE INFORMATION ON THE RIGHT.
SO I WOULDN'T SAY THE RIDER SH IT'S A RIGHT SHARE SERVICE AVAILABLE FROM SEVEN P AM TO 7:00 PM WE SEE THE SAN GABRIEL CITY LIMIT THE COST OF EACH RISE $1 AND ACCESSIBLE FOR ANYONE AGE 13 AND ABOVE.
KIT UNDER THE AGE OF 13 CAN ONLY ARRIVE IF THEY ACCOMPANY, UH, BY A FAIR PAYING PASSENGER.
SO JUST DOWNLOAD THE RIGHT SG APP AS FREE BY USING THE Y SSG.
SO WE JUST WANNA SHARE WITH YOU, UH, ST.
GABRIEL ALREADY IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM.
AND I DON'T KNOW, THIS PROGRAM WILL BE HELPING OUR RESIDENT AND THIS IS, UH, LIKE YOU CAN KNOW.
SO EAST, WEST YOU ONLY COULD DO IT.
THIS IS, UH, LIKE A MINIVAN AND, BUT THEY PAINTED.
SO I DUNNO, THIS IS MAYBE ANOTHER WAY TO HELP PEOPLE HELP STUDENTS.
AND I DON'T KNOW, 13 YEARS OLD, THEY CAN WRITE BY THEMSELF.
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SO IT IS KIND OF, THEY'RE UNDERAGED.BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS SAN GABRIEL.
SO WE WANT TO SEE, WE WANNA EXPLORE ALL DIFFERENT KIND OF OPTION.
ESPECIALLY STUDENT AND SENIOR.
SO, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS MAYBE NOT KELLY.
LOOK, RIGHT? IT'S BASICALLY A MICRO, MICRO TRANSIT PROGRAM.
THEY REPLACE THEIR DIAL AIDE WITH THIS, UH, ON DEMAND PROGRAM.
UH, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S, UH, SEVEN TO SEVEN, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
UM, THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF MINIVANS IN SERVICE AND, UH, A COUPLE OF CUTAWAYS LIKE WE RUN, THEY'RE ALL WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE AND THEY CHARGE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR DI, RIGHT? I'M SORRY? LIKE DI, RIGHT? $1, RIGHT? $1 AND 50 CENTS FOR ELDERLY AND DISABLED.
SO, SO AGAIN, HOW CAN WE UTILIZE ALL THE DIFFERENT SERVICE OKAY.
AND THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AND, UH, AT THE SAME TIME WE WANT TO SEE HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME? MIGHT POSSIBLE.
PEOPLE STILL WANT THE, THE ALIGNMENT ROUTE, LIKE THE ONE GREEN OR BLUE AND VERY POPULAR.
SO, SO, SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE DECISION TODAY, RIGHT? NO.
WE JUST TRY TO COMMUNICATE AND TRY TO BRAINSTORM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THE MOST.
AND MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE WITH KELLY AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON DO WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY DECISION? JUST, JUST ON THE EXTENSION FILE? SO WE JUST IN THE CONTRACT.
WE NEED TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT.
WE DIDN'T TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT.
UM, BUT MAYO PRO TEM HAS A QUESTION.
SO ON, ON THE E EX, THE ON THE FIXED LINE, UH, IS, IS THE REASON WE THEY DIDN'T EX EXTEND IT LIKE TO THOSE SCHOOLS IS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LONGER IN TERMS OF WAIT TIME.
LIKE IF YOU EXTEND MORE STOPS, DOES THAT EXPAND THE WAIT TIME? YES.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO CONSIDER, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO IF WE EXPAND TO GO AROUND CERTAIN HIGH SCHOOLS, THEN INSTEAD OF A 30 MINUTE WAIT TIME, IT, IT THEN BECOME LIKE A 45 MINUTE, RIGHT? OKAY.
WHAT, UH, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, EARLIER, WAS IT, UH, IN, IN DOWNEY THEY RUN SPECIAL TRIPS, UH, FOR SCHOOLS, UH, DURING THOSE BUSY TIMES.
THE, THE, THE BELL ON THE BELL TIMES ARE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE PLACE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, IN THE EARLY MORNING, IN THE AFTERNOON, YOU KNOW, RUN A, RUN A TRIP AROUND THE SCHOOLS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE SO MUCH SERVICE DURING THE DEAD TIMES OF THE DAY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AND MAYBE REFINE THE, UH, REFINE THE, UH, TIMES.
UM, WE CAN, I JUST WANT TO MOVE, MOVE THE MOTION.
I'M GOING TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND, UH, ONE YEAR.
AND DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME, AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER, SEE HOW CAN WE BE SUFFICIENT EFFICIENTLY TO HAVE A ROUTE AND, UH, ANY OTHER, OKAY.
SO SOMETHING CAN MAKE PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE THE SERVICE.
SO THIS IS MY MOTION CLAR CLARIFICATION.
IF WE EXTEND THE CONTRACT, WE CAN STILL MAKE CHANGES DURING THIS NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? AS, AS NEEDED.
AS WE RECONFIGURE, AS WE, AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, WHAT THE, THOSE, THOSE HOURS ARE AND WHAT, HOW WE WANNA ADJUST THEM.
UH, I HAVE TO DELVE HONESTLY INTO DEEP, INTO THE CONTRACT ON OTHER MM-HMM.
WE'VE MADE SOME, A FEW WITHIN OUR CONTRACT ALREADY ON, ON SOME OF THE ROUTES, BUT, UH, WE CERTAINLY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, LOOK AT THAT, AND WOULD DEFINITELY WANNA PARTNER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
POSSIBLE CHANGES IF WE WANT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THERE.
I WANNA CLARIFY, BUT IF WE WENT TO LIKE A MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE, I MEAN, THAT REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, UH, PROCURING BUSES, UH, SOFTWARE, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TIED TO THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CURRENT, SINCE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CONTRACT EXPIRE IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WE NEED TO EITHER GET RID OF YOU OR WE'LL GIVE YOU EXTENSION SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON NO, I THINK YOUR SERVICE IS VALUABLE.
I THINK SO WE SEE A LOT OF TIME.
WE HAVE EVENT AND YOU, YOU GUYS DOING THE GREAT JOB.
I SEE THE VALUE, BUT SEE, YES, SIR.
BUT THE, THE THING IS THAT I THINK EVERYBODY CAN SAY IS THE EMPTY BUSES AND, UH, SO LET'S, LET'S WORK IT OUT.
SEE, WE, WE, WE ALLOWED TO CHANGE AND TO DO BOTH SIDE WITH KELLY AND SEE TO EXPERIMENT SOME OF THE ROUTE.
BUT, BUT, BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO THE WRITER TO KNOW WE STARTING CHANGING.
AND SO THEY DON'T MISS THE BUST.
THERE WE CAN, WE ARE CERTAINLY HERE TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, CHANGES OPTIONS, UH, THAT WILL BE BEST SUITED FOR THE CITY AND WE'LL WORK TOGETHER WITH YOU,
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UH, PROCESS AND BEING EXPLORED THE ST.I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PULL THAT UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT, SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
HOW WE CAN, CAN, CAN KIND OF, UH, USING OLD WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE YOUR SERVICE.
SO, UM, SO WE CAN, IF THERE ARE CHANGES THAT WE WANNA MAKE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEM.
BUT IT, BUT IT, IT POTENTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE NEEDS OF THE CONTRACT, IF YOU GO TO LIKE, SAY, TO MICRO TRANSIT, IT MAY REQUIRE, UH, REQUIRE GETTING THE SMALLER VEHICLES INTO THE SYSTEM OR THE SOFTWARE.
THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S EXPENSES AND STUFF ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WE WILL DEFINITELY PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE.
WORK WITH KELLY AND SEE WHAT COME UP WITH THE BEST, UH, OPTION.
IT MAY BE A MOVING TARGET, YOU KNOW, WE TRY THIS.
IF IT'S NOT QUITE WHAT WORK IS WORKING OUT, WE CAN TWEAK AND, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
IF I COULD ADD MY UNDERSTANDING.
EVEN WE EXTEND YOU 12 MONTHS, WE, IF WE HAVE ANY CHANGE, WE CAN STILL TERMINATE, RIGHT? YES.
SO WE SAW WHAT REASON WE CAN TERMINATE WITHOUT ANY REASON.
WITHOUT COST, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TERMINATE YOU.
THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TERMINATE, BUT WE WANNA WORK WITH YOU.
LET'S EXTEND FOR 12 MONTHS AND AT THE SAME TIME, LET'S WORKING ON THE RIDERSHIP.
WE'LL GET SOMETHING COUNCILMAN CALENDAR RIGHT AWAY.
I MEAN, I HATE TO BE A BAD GUY, BUT LIKE, WHAT, CAN WE EXTEND IT BY SIX MONTHS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE? AND THEN, AND THEN FROM THERE, LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
SO THAT WAY THAT'LL GIVE US A NIMBLE ABILITY TO, TO MODIFY THE CONTRACT.
'CAUSE I, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE IDENTIFIED CHANGES, BUT WE'RE LOCKED INTO A CONTRACT FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR, THEN WE CAN'T IMPLEMENT THE NEW CHANGE WE WANT UNTIL A YEAR PASSES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, IF I MAY, WE CAN TERMINATE WITHOUT CAUSE SO WE CAN TERMINATE.
YOU WANT THEM, THEY CAN TERMINATE THEM.
SO YOU CAN TERMINATE ANYTIME YOU, BUT, OKAY.
I THINK IT'S THE CONTRACT DURATION.
NORMALLY 12 MONTHS, BUT WE CAN TERMINATE ANYTIME.
CAN WE MOVE THIS FORWARD PLEASE?
MAY, CAN I CONFIRM WHO? SECOND? UH, SECOND.
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WU AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CONTOS TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION.
COUNCILMAN WU, YOU COUNCILMAN CONTOS? AYE.
OKAY, I THINK THAT WAS OUR LAST ONE.
[CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]
UM, HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY REQUEST? QUICK REPORT? UM, JUST TO SAY, UM, MADAM MAYOR, UH, COUNCILMAN CONTOS, JUST WANTED TO, TO THANK THE COMMUNITY, UH, FOR, FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT HAS BEEN, UM, SHOWN TO SCHOOL KIDS THROUGHOUT THIS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.THERE'VE BEEN, UH, SCHOOL SUPPLY DRIVES ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND I WANTED TO REALLY BE, UH, TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO, UH, TO EVERYBODY FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL SUPPLY DRIVES.
ONE THAT I WAS INVOLVED WITH, UM, I WAS APPROACHED BY COVINA VALLEY, UH, UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR SOME HELP LAST YEAR.
THEY SUPPORTED, UH, ONLY A HUNDRED KIDS, BUT, UH, I, I GOT INVOLVED IN AND THANKS TO A LOT OF PARTNERS, INCLUDING, UH, ATHENS SERVICES AND CASTUCCI FOUNDATION AND ANDY MCINTYRE AND OTHER PRIVATE DONATIONS AND, UH, REACH AND, UH, GABBY SOLIS AND SO FORTH.
WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, ULTIMATELY TO SUPPORT 700 KIDS.
SO, AND JUST REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.
AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT WE SHOWED TO OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR CITY'S KIDS.
COUNCILMAN WU? UH, I HAVE A QUICK ONE.
I JUST WANT TO ECHO COUNCILWOMAN LADY LOPEZ, REGARDING THE FRIDAY DAY SIX O'CLOCK, THE FILM IT OKAY.
I THINK BECOME A VERY, UH, SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
AND, UH, WE HAVE A MOVIE STAR WANT TO SHOW UP.
THEY STILL WILLING TO COME TO WEST CO NOW.
BECAUSE WE ARE SO DESERVED FOR THEIR PRESENT AND WE HONORED TO HAVE THEM TO TALK TO OUR CHILDREN, OUR KID.
SO SIX O'CLOCK, RIGHT? FRIDAY AND THIS FRIDAY, SO DON'T MISS IT.
OKAY, I SEE YOU GUY OVER THERE.
UH, I ALSO WANNA REITERATE, UM, WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, UH, EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT CAROLYN.
UM, SHE WAS, UH, AN EXTREMELY SPECIAL, UH, INDIVIDUAL TO THE COMMUNITY.
WAS ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE, UH, ALWAYS SHARED WITH ME AND, AND REALLY, UH, JUST, UH, MENTORED AND, AND MADE YOU FEEL WELCOME
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NO MATTER WHERE YOU WERE.UH, AND SO AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT LOSS TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL WHAT EVERYONE'S BEEN DOING, UH, WHAT THE MAYOR SAID EARLIER.
UM, SHE'S SOMEONE WHO TRULY DESERVES IT.
UH, AND I AM JUST, UM, FORTUNATE, UH, TO HAVE KNOWN HER.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT, IT'S, UH, WORK RELATED, BUT OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT I TAKE FROM WORK I BRING HERE BECAUSE I WANNA PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING, OR I WANNA MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE.
UM, SO RECENTLY, THE PAST TWO WEEKS I'VE BEEN, UM, DEALING WITH, I, I HAD A SHOOTING AND A MURDER, UM, ONE OUTSIDE DURING BASEBALL PRACTICE AND SOCCER WHERE ALL THE LITTLE KIDS GOT TO SEE IT, BROAD DAYLIGHT.
UM, AND I JUST HAD A RECENT ONE.
ANOTHER, ANOTHER ONE DIDN'T EVEN GIVE A TWO WEEK PERIOD OF COOLING OFF FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I HAD ANOTHER ONE ON SATURDAY, UM, INSIDE OUR GYM.
UM, IT, IT'S BEEN, IT'S TAKEN A TOLL ON, ON STAFF, THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCILWOMAN, YOU KNOW, I, I STRIVE FOR SAFETY.
SAFETY'S ALWAYS MY NUMBER ONE THING.
UM, TODAY, I KNOW WITH THE FLOCK CAMERA, THAT MAKES A, IT HITS HOME FOR ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY JUST PREVENTION THAT I'M LOOKING FOR, IT'S ALSO, UM, JUSTICE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, CLOSURE.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE GABBY SITUATION, UM, AND CLOSURE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO FAMILIES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FLOCK CAMERA, IT, IT IS ABILITY TO HAVE THAT CLOSURE WHEN YOU CAN CATCH THE, UM, THE SUSPECTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW CRIME IS UP EVERYWHERE THE PAST TWO, THREE YEARS.
IT'S JUST BEEN, UM, JUST BEEN HARD.
I MEAN, JUST EVEN HERE WITH, UH, WITH MY OWN COLLEAGUES, EVERY WEEK THERE'S A SHOOTING, UM, AT A DIFFERENT PARK.
UM, WE'VE SEEN CRIME, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OUR RESIDENTS HERE MENTIONED, WELL, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, CRIME IS UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE IT ON THE NEWS SMASH, GRAB AND GO, UH, GRAFFITI, VANDALISM.
UM, THE WHOLE GAS GONE SITUATION, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE ARE YOUTH COMMITTING THESE ACTS.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE, YOU KNOW, POLICE OFFICERS CATCH THE SAME KID THREE TIMES WITH A GUN GETS RELEASED OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE RULES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I JUST URGE OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, BE CAREFUL WHO YOU VOTE FOR.
DON'T GO FOR DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE POLICIES ARE.
UM, OUR CITY OF WEST COVINA, I WANNA REMIND OUR, OUR CITY THAT RESIDENTS THAT THE PD DOES SUCH A GREAT JOB, AGAIN, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO GANGS.
UM, YOU DON'T SEE THAT BECAUSE THEY PREVENT THAT.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I GET TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE OF NIGHT AND DAY.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANT TO REMIND, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE BLESSED IN, IN WEST COVINA FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UH, OUR CITY DOES, OUR POLICE, UM, WHAT OUR POLICE DO, UM, CONTINUES TO DO.
AS FOR THE GRAFFITI, I KNOW THERE'S AN INCREASE ON THAT.
I JUST, IF WE CAN HAVE, UM, THE CITY JUST SEND OUT A REMINDER OF, UH, GR GRAFFITI REPORTING, GRAFFITI ANONYMOUS, AND THEN, UH, REWARD.
BECAUSE I ALSO WANT TO REWARD THE GOOD CITIZENS.
'CAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE IN TODAY'S TIME, WE'RE PENALIZING THE GOOD CITIZENS.
WE'RE PENALIZING OUR POOR BUSINESSES.
I MEAN, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO FIX THESE THINGS? IT JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, UH, ONE OF OUR RESIDENT WHO OWNS A BUSINESS, UH, UH, THE DAIRY HERE, UH, MIKE TOOEY, UH, HE'S THINKING OF CLOSING DOWN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CARS BREAK IN, THEY, THEY'RE STEALING.
IT'S JUST THE INSURANCE PURPOSES.
INSURANCE STOP, LIKE WANTING TO STOP, UM, PAYING THESE THINGS BECAUSE ALL, ALL THESE THINGS OCCUR.
UM, AND SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN BRING THAT OUT, I KNOW I, YOU KNOW, I'M, AND POLITICS HAS A BIG FACTOR IN THIS TOO, BECAUSE I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR OWN COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE MAYOR.
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN ONE DOES NOT LIKE THE OTHER, IT'S HARDER TO GET CERTAIN THINGS PASSED.
NOT TALKING ABOUT WEST COVINA, RIGHT? THAT'S NO.
THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WEST COVINA, CITY OF LA NO.
A C T, RIGHT? CITY OF LA THANK YOU.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I MESH THINGS IN AND HERE, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, YOUR, YOUR CITY COUNCIL, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE OUR DISAGREEMENTS, WE DO WORK, UH, WELL TOGETHER ON THAT CASE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN REGARDS TO SAFETY, ALSO, I DO WANNA FOLLOW UP ON MY REQUEST, UH, THAT I, I MADE SIX MONTHS AGO TO HAVE OUR OWN PROSECUTOR, UH, SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROSECUTE CRIMES SINCE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW UP ON THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE PUNISH THE BAD BEHAVIORS AND REWARD, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD.
AND WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON LIKE, LETTING GO OF ALL THESE CRIMINALS, THE ACTS, THE, THE BAD BEHAVIORS.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE HOW THINGS ARE GOING, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HERE AS YOUR COUNCILWOMAN, YOU KNOW, I URGE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, IF YOU HAVE SOLUTIONS, BY ALL MEANS,
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UM, LET US KNOW.AND THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
BUT I DO LIKE, AGAIN, PUSH FOR THAT, THAT PROS PROSECUTOR THAT I'VE, I'VE PUT IN, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THAT GAS ON, UM, THE DIRECTIVES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND, UH, BECAUSE IT, IT HITS HOME HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE OLYMPICS ARE, COME IN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE HOMELESS ISSUE.
WE JUST HAVE A VARIETY OF ISSUES.
AND, AND THERE'S NOT A ONE ANSWER FOR ALL.
BUT IF WE CAN FIND WAYS, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT OF COURSE, THIS, THIS IS A BIG THING FOR ME TO, YOU DON'T JUST PUNISH THOSE CRIMES.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU PD FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND KEEPING US SAFE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, YEAH, THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN, UM, FOR KEEPING US SAFE AND DOING WHAT YOU CAN DO, DESPITE YOUR HANDS BEING TIED AND WHAT THE LAWS ARE GIVEN, THAT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
UH, AND REALLY QUICK, I WANNA FOLLOW UP WHAT YOU JUST SAY.
WE'LL BE QUICK ONE, OKAY? DON'T WORRY, I WON'T BE LONG TO YOU TOMORROW.
BUT THE THING IS THIS, GABBY STILL, WE HAVEN'T SOLVED A CRIME, OKAY? AND GABBY OKAY.
THAT TIME WE DON'T HAVE A CAMERA.
AND BECAUSE GABBY AND, UH, YOU PUSHED TO FLY CAMERA AND, UH, THE POLICE, OKAY, CHIEF, OKAY, THEY INSTALLED THIS FOR TWO YEARS.
THEY PAID FOR IT, AND NOW WE CITY HAVE TO PICK IT UP.
AND, UH, THE EFFECT IS TREMENDOUS.
OKAY? AND JUST A COUPLE MONTHS LATER, OKAY? WE HAVE A 13 YEARS OLD, OR 14 YEARS OLD GIRL, OKAY? CROSS THE SUSE AVENUE, CROSS STREET OF SPORT PLAQUE.
AND THEN SHE WANT TO GO TO OKAY.
CROSS STREET OF HER HOME, AND SHE GOT HIT BY THE, OKAY.
17 YEARS OF, UH, OKAY, UNDER INFLUENCE, OKAY.
OF, UH, AROUND THE RED, RED, RED LIGHT AND, UH, KILLED THE LITTLE GIRL.
AND WITHOUT THAT FLOCK CAMERA TO TODAY, THAT WOULD BE A COLD CASE AGAIN.
SO I THINK THE, THE FLOCK CAMERA, IT PROVEN OKAY, IS REALLY OKAY.
CAN PREVENT THE CRIME, SCAN THE LICENSE PLATE, AND WHEN THE CRIME HAPPEN, OKAY, THEY WILL HAVE THAT CAMERA TO GO TO THAT LICENSE PLATE AND THE CATCH, OKAY.
THE, THE CRIMINAL THAT COMMIT THE CRIME.
SO, SO I THINK LEFT FLOCK CAMERA REALLY OKAY.
BECOME A VERY EFFECTIVE, SO I WANTED TO FOLLOW WHAT YOU SAY.
WE, WE, WE CANNOT CHANGE WHAT OKAY.
THE LOAD OR THE, THE ISSUE THAT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN DO SOMETHING, I THINK OKAY.
THE FLOOD CAMERA THAT INSTALL, AND THEN WE, WE CAN KIND OF HELP OUT OKAY.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE MAKE CITY OF WEST COVINA, UH, WHERE PEOPLE ARE KNOWN TO LIKE, THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU ENTER OUR CITY.
AND THAT'S WHERE I WANT OUR CITY TO, TO GET TO THAT LEVEL WHERE THEY, THEY WOULD JUST PASS UP WEST COVINA AND DO CRIME SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO THAT IS MY MAIN FOCUS AND I JUST WANNA CONTINUE WITH THAT, UM, AS WE GO, AS WE JOURNEY ON.
WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN LETTI LOPEZ AND COUNCILMAN WU ABOUT, UM, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CRIME.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL SAFE AND HOPEFULLY, UM, WE CAN IMPROVE AND CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR CITY.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
AND, UM, I JUST, WITH THAT SAID, I JUST WANNA ADJOURN OUR MEETING.