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[Call to Order]
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DECEMBER 13TH, 2022 TO ORDER.
UH, FIRST, WE WILL NOW TAKE A MOMENT FOR SILENT PRAYER OR MEDITATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WHICH WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. PLEASE RISE.
READY? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR.
ALL RIGHT, PAUL, A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
UH, CHAIR AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, COMMISSIONER, HANG CHAIR, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. PRESENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER BECERRA IS ABSENT.
GUTIERREZ CHAIR AND CHAIR LEWIS PRESENT.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
RIGHT.MOVING ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES TONIGHT.
WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR OCTOBER 11TH, 2022, AND NOVEMBER 22ND, 2022.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS SUBMITTED.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.
[3. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 22-05]
ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT.
PAULINA, WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
UH, MIRIAM WILL BE PROVIDING THAT PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 99 3 SOUTH GLENORA AVENUE.
THE ENTITLEMENTS BEING REQUESTED ARE CONDITIONAL.
USE PERMIT NUMBER 22 DASH ZERO FIVE FOR THE, UH, LOUD USE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT NUMBER 22 DASH 13 FOR THE ONSITE SALE OF BEER AND WINE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE AND EAST VINE AVENUE.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
THE SURROUNDING USES CONSIST OF SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, MULTI-FAMILY OFFICE, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, COMMERCIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
THE OVERALL LOT SITE IS 8.8 0.83 ACRES.
HERE WE HAVE THE OVERALL SITE.
UH, WE ARE FOCUSING ON THAT PINK OUTLINE THERE THAT SHOWS THE OVERALL AREA THAT THE AUP REQUESTED WOULD COVER.
AND THOSE TWO YELLOW RECTANGLES SHOW THE TWO LOCATIONS OF LINE, THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WHERE THE STAGES WOULD GO.
HERE WE HAVE A CLOSER VIEW OF THE OUTDOOR STAGE FOR THE OPERATION.
THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THOSE TWO, UM, AREAS.
ONE IS LOCATED INDOORS AND ONE IS LOCATED OUTDOORS, BOTH WITHIN, UM, DINING AREAS.
FOR THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, AMPL AMPLIFIED SOUND WOULD BE PERMITTED, UM, ONLY INDOORS AND OUTDOORS ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, UH, BUT NO LATER THAN 10:00 PM AND ONSITE ALCOHOL SALES IN CONJUNCTION WITH RESTAURANTS, UH, EVERY RESTAURANT WOULD OBTAIN THEIR, UH, INDIVIDUAL ABC LICENSE FROM THE ABC LICENSE DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY.
UH, EVENTS THAT CAN TAKE PLACE WOULD CONSIST OF SEASONAL EVENTS, MUSICAL ENTERTAINMENT, ARCADE SLASH FAMILY, FUN THEMED EVENTS, CRAFT MARKETS, FARMER'S MARKETS, GROCERY MARKETS, WEDDINGS AND PRIVATE EVENTS.
PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTING RESOLUTION NUMBER 22 6 116 AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 22 617 APPROVING BOTH CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2205 AND ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT 2213.
WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT? NOT AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE FIRST, UH, FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE THE APPLICANT, UH, TOMMY.
UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR HAVING US HERE.
UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE LIKE A BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT OR HOW DOES, UH, HOW DOES THIS SURE, SURE.
IF YOU CAN GIVE US A BACKGROUND AND THEN KIND OF GIVE US WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND, AND FRANKLY,
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IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, MADE BY STAFF.UH, WELL, UM, HAVEN CITY MARKET IS A PROJECT I'VE, UH, STARTED IN, UH, THE CONCEPT WAS IN 2016 AND WE DID CONSTRUCTION AND STARTED IN 2019, OPENED OUR DOORS IN, UM, UH, RANCHO CUCAMONGA.
SO THIS IS OUR SECOND LOCATION IN WEST COVINA.
UH, THE CURRENT LOCATION IN RANCHO HAS BEEN, UH, A, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN UP AND GOING FOR ABOUT, WHAT, THREE YEARS NOW.
UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 35 RESTAURANTS ON THE ONE ROOF, WHICH IS, UH, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD HALLS WISE, WE'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST.
UM, AND, UM, AND IT'S BEEN, UH, IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A GREAT RIDE SO FAR, AND IT'S, UH, BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO CONSTANTLY ADD BETTER AND MORE, I GUESS, UH, FORD CREATIVE FOOD VENDORS.
SO, UM, WE'RE ALWAYS, UM, SEARCHING FOR THAT AND, AND, UH, SO FAR IT'S BEEN GOOD.
SO, UM, UH, ACCORDING TO THE A U P, UM, UH, THE REASON WHY WE, UH, PUSHED FOR AUP WAS THE, THE GOAL WAS, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE OPENED IN 2019, UM, UH, COVID HAPPENED AND EVERYTHING GOT SHUT DOWN LIKE FOUR MONTHS AFTERWARDS, RIGHT? BUT, UM, THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA HAD, UM, THE, THE ABILITY FOR THESE RESTAURANTS, EVERY, THESE SMALL RESTAURANTS, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S 300 SQUARE FEET TO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, THEY HAD THESE, UH, THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR A BEER AND WINE LICENSE, UM, AND LIQUOR LICENSE.
IT ALLOWED FOR OUR, UM, VENDORS TO REALLY KIND OF ADD AN EXTRA 20% TO THEIR, TO THEIR REVENUE WITH A HIGH MARGIN ITEM.
UM, INADVERTENTLY ACTUALLY HELPED OUR CUSTOMER BASE TOO, CUZ NOW THEY COME INTO A RESTAURANT, UH, A FOOD HALL WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, WOW, THERE'S SO MANY OPTIONS, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE LIKE A, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A COFFEE, UH, VENDOR THAT DOES, UM, LOCAL, UM, UH, UH, BROOD BEER, AND WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE ANOTHER GUY THAT DOES, UH, ALL WEST COAST BEERS THAT ARE BREWED FROM WASHINGTON ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HERE.
SO IT'S, IT KIND OF GIVES THE, UM, THE OPERATOR THE LITTLE CREATIVITY, UH, THE, THE, THE FLEXIBILITY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO KIND OF SPREAD THEIR WINGS AND THE CREATIVITY.
AND IT REALLY HAS HELPED AND PROVIDED THE COMMUNITY WITH THE REALLY COOL, UH, PLACE.
UM, THAT'S FOR THE A P UM, UH, GOING TO THE C P.
UH, THE C P UM, THE C P REALLY KIND OF TIES INTO WHAT REALLY MAKES A FOOD HALL SUCCESSFUL IS THE PROGRAMMING.
UM, YOU, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT HAVING THE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT IS ABOUT KIND OF BRINGING A, A, A PLACE ALIVE, RIGHT? SO, UM, IT BRING, BRINGS FAMILIES TOGETHER.
UH, IT GIVES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MOM AND DAD THAT ARE TRYING TO BE COOL ON THE WEEKENDS AND BE LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO.
THERE'S LIVE MUSIC, UH, THERE'S THIS BAND GOING ON, THIS AND THAT.
SO KIDS GET OFF THEIR, UH, VIDEO GAMES AND THEY COME OUT AND START, START SEEING PEOPLE FOR
BUT, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF GET HER OUT AND, AND, AND, AND DO ALL THAT.
SO THE PROGRAM IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UH, WE DO LIVE MUSICS ON FRIDAY, SATURDAYS.
UH, COMEDY SHOWS WE DO, WE HAVE, UM, LIKE THIS WEEKEND WE HAVE A, UH, UH, LAST WEEKEND, SORRY, LAST WEEK WE HAD A HOLIDAY MARKET.
WE HAD ABOUT 50 VENDORS, UH, UH, CRAFT VENDORS FROM ALL OVER.
UM, AND WE TRY TO FOCUS WITHIN THE CITY, LIKE IN THE AREA.
SO IN AN EMPIRE, WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE FROM LIKE FONTANA, RANCHO CUCAMONGA, UH, ONTARIO, TRY TO GET THAT, TELL THAT STORY TO LET THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY KIND OF GET BEHIND THEM.
UH, WE'LL BE DOING THE SAME THING HERE.
SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON LOCAL BUSINESSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SMALL BUSINESSES GIVE 'EM A PLATFORM TO KIND OF SHOWCASE THEIR, THEIR GOODS.
AND, UM, THEN THAT'S WHAT HAVEN CITY'S ALL ABOUT.
SO THEY'RE PROGRAMMING WITH THE, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE, UM, UH, REALLY TRYING TO SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM JUST A ANOTHER PLACE WHEREVER YOU CAN EAT.
SO, UM, I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF BEFORE, YEAH, BEFORE I GET FURTHER DEEP, I CAN GO WITH THIS.
I CAN GO ALL NIGHT, BUT
WE WILL ASK FOR, ASK FOR ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT IN FAVOR.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OPPOSED, ANYONE NEUTRAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND, UH, ALLOW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT NOW.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, TOMMY, IF YOU WANT COME IN, GIVE MY STEPS IN.
DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND HOW MANY, UM, RESTAURANTS YOU WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THAT'LL WANT AN ALCOHOL LICENSE? UM, WELL WE, WE, WE EARMARKED 41 SPACES.
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GONNA BE, UM, ORDERING, LIKE GETTING THE BEER AND WINE LICENSE.UH, WHAT WE HAVE IN RANCHO, I CAN JUST GO OFF OF HISTORICAL DATA, PRETTY MUCH HAVE ABOUT, I WOULD SAY, UH, 45% OF OUR TENANTS OVER IN RANCHO HAVE THE BEER AND WINE LICENSE.
UH, WE HAVE LIKE TWO THAT HAVE LIQUOR LICENSES MM-HMM.
I MEAN, THAT KIND OF GIVES IT A, A NICE BALLPARK.
AND SO NOW UNDER YOUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BESIDES THE ENTERTAINMENT SURE.
YOU'D ALSO BE GETTING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE TYPE 41 AND 47? UM, NO.
UH, SO TECHNICALLY, UH, THE TENANT WILL APPLY FOR THEIR OWN, UH, BEER AND WINE LICENSE WITH ABC SEE, AS A PART OF THEIR ABC PROCESS.
ON THE APPLICATION, THEY'RE GONNA BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, I THINK THAT'S THE AUP P FOR IT.
I THINK THAT'S A, UH, CORRECT.
SO THE AUP P THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THIS EVENING, THE CITY DOES NOT, UM, DO CU FOR ALL ONSITE ALCOHOL SALES.
AND SO IT'S AN, A MASTER AUP FOR ALL OF THE TENANT SPACES WITHIN OUT THAT IN OUTLINED AREA IN THE FOOD HALL.
AND SO THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THIS MASTER AUP TO APPLY FOR THEIR A ABC LICENSE.
HAS THE CITY DONE THAT BEFORE? I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE.
WE HAVE THIS, THIS FOOD HALL CONCEPT.
IT'S THE FIRST ONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT HELPS FACILITATE, UM, ON THE LAND, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND INSTEAD OF COMING IN AND APPLYING FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL TENANT, AND IT ALSO FACILITATES IT ON THE CITY.
I THINK YOU HAVE, YOU SAID 40 VENDOR SPACES? YEAH, WE HAVE 40 VENDOR SPACES.
SO THAT WOULD, AND IF YOU'RE DOING 50% OF THAT WITH ALCOHOL SALES, WE CALL IT, YEAH.
AND SO, UM, I THINK PART OF IT TOO IS THAT IT INCORPORATES AREA OF THE OUTDOOR, UM, PATIO AREA WHERE THE ENTERTAINMENT'S GOING TO BE.
AND SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH ONE VENDOR SPACE, BUT AS AN AREA AS A WHOLE.
NOW, WHEN YOU GUYS DID YOUR FACILITY IN RANCHO, WHICH BY THE WAY, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THERE BEFORE.
TO GET AN IDEAL, CUZ THERE'S A SMALLER FACILITY OVER IN GLENORA.
DID YOU END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY DID AN A U P FOR THOSE? HOW DID THEY GET THEIR, UH, IN RAN IN RANCHO? MM-HMM.
IF YOU, IF YOU APPLY AS A RESTAURANT MM-HMM.
SO YOU, IT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, IT IT, IT KIND OF SKIPS THAT C P PROCESS.
SO YOU'RE LIKE, UH, IF YOU JUST GO INTO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, I I WANT I'M, I'M A RESTAURANT MM-HMM.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE C P PROCESS.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THERE'S, UM, UM, I THINK IN WEST COVINA, I THINK YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THE C P AT, IS THAT WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN, I GUESS IN LA COUNTY? YEAH.
WOULD THE ABC, IF YOU GO ONTO THEIR WEBSITE AND I CALL IT BEVERAGE CONTROL MM-HMM.
RIGHT? SO IT'S, UH, CALLED PART OF THE ZONING AFFIDAVIT.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SW UM, IN THIS CASE IT'S A MUCH MORE LUXURY ASPECT, BUT IT'S KINDA LIKE A SWAP MEAN, IF THEY HAVE BEER THERE, IT'S, IT'S A GENERAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
LIKE, UH, PAULINA WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER, ALL RIGHT, YOU CAN GO TO, YOU KNOW, ONE VENDOR, GRAB A A MEAL, GO TO ANOTHER VENDOR, GRAB A DRINK, AND YOU CAN WALK AROUND WITH THAT AREA WITHIN THAT DESIGNATED AREA, WHICH IS THE HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU DID IT PER VENDOR, THEN IT WOULD BE THE SPACE THAT YOU COULD WALK AROUND WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT VENDOR SPACE.
AND I THINK WITH THEIR ALCOHOL LICENSE IS GONNA BE BASED ON THEIR ACTUAL SPACE WITH THEIR ALCOHOL LICENSE FROM, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S WITHIN THEIR SPACE, BUT IT'S WITHIN THE, THE U THE, THE USABILITY IS WITHIN THE, UH, THE PINK, UH, BOX THAT WE YEAH.
SO THAT THE QUESTION THEY ASK ON A B ABC, THEY'LL RESPOND AND INDICATE THAT THERE'S A GENERAL, UH, C U P FOR THAT LOCATION YES.
AND AN B C WILL CONDUCT AN INSPECTION OF THAT SITE AND DETERMINE IF EACH STALL HAS, UH, THE APPROPRIATE SPACE TO STORE ALCOHOL OR LIQUOR IN A SAFE LOCATION, AND THEN ALSO TO SERVE IT AND SO FORTH.
WELL, IN SEEING THE TYPE OF, OF LICENSE THAT YOU'RE EXPLORING, THE 41 AND 47 MM-HMM.
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WHATEVER.SO ABC WOULD, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT IS NOT AS EASY AS GOING IN THERE AND BUYING A LICENSE, RIGHT.
THEY GOTTA, THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THEIR, UH, INSPECTIONS, BUT MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S KIND OF, UM, UH, WHAT WE DID IN RANCHO AS WELL, SO, YES.
RIGHT HERE, I DON'T REMEMBER BEING THAT BIG, BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE 41 FOOD STALL? UH, YES.
41 RESTAURANT IN INSIDE THE, UH, INSIDE THE HIGHLIGHT AREA.
THERE, UM, THAT AREA I THINK WAS VACANT FOR A WHILE.
IT WAS LIKE, IT WAS LIKE A, A SINGLE, UM, THERE WAS A FOOD COURT, THERE WAS A SMALL FOOD COURT.
I THINK THERE WAS ONLY LIKE, I THINK 10 SPACES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN ALONG THE OTHER SIDE THERE WAS LIKE SINGLE, UH, RETAIL SPACES THAT WE WERE CONNECTED, WE CONNECTED, AND NOW WE WERE ABLE TO CARVE OUT ABOUT 42 SPACES.
DO YOU KNOW LIKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH OF THOSE SPACE? IT RANGES.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, 400 TO SIX 50, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ROUGHLY.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE SMALLER SPACES.
BUT THROUGH MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE OTHER, UH, FOOD HALL, I, THE, THE PERFECT RANGE FOR OPERATOR IS ROUGHLY AROUND THAT, UM, THAT SIZE, LIKE 400 OF SIX 50.
A LOT OF OUR, UH, TENANTS LIKE, LIKE THAT 600, UH, SQUARE FOOT SIZE.
AND, AND KEEP IN MIND A ABC COULD SAY, OKAY, THAT THAT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THE LAW, AND YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PREVENT FROM THE CITY.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, A ABC MAKES A DETERMINATION ON THE ALCOHOL ASPECT OF, UH, THE ON, ON EACH, UH, AND HOW IT'S SERVED AND SO FORTH.
SO IF ABC DOESN'T GRANT THEM A, A LICENSE, THEN THERE'S NO LICENSE AND THEY CANNOT SELL ALCOHOL.
UM, T SHEENA'S QUESTION THOUGH, THIS IS, UM, PHASE ONE OF THE RENOVATION FOR HONG KONG PLAZA, AND I THINK, UM, MR. LEE CAN RESPOND TO IT IF HE WANTS TO ADD, BUT IT'S PHASE ONE.
AND SO THEY ARE EXPANDING WHAT WAS FORMALLY THE FOOD COURT AND EXPANDING IT TO THIS FOOD HUB CENTER.
UM, AND THEY'RE ADDING THAT OUTDOOR DINING AREA WHERE IT IS GONNA ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THAT ENTERTAINMENT SPACE OUTSIDE.
AND SO THAT AREA WILL BE, UM, FENCED OFF TO ALLOW FOUR INDIVIDUALS TO WALK AROUND WITH A DRINK FROM THE, THE FOOD HALL.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S PHASE ONE.
AND I THINK IF YOU DRIVE BY THE CENTER TODAY, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY STARTED ON THE OTHER PHASES YEAH.
TO DO FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, FOR THE CENTER.
SO IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A DATE OF WHEN THE WHOLE CENTER WILL BE COMPLETED, AND IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH US.
WELL, I DON'T, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE.
THIS IS A SPACES FOR, FOR EACH STALL, RIGHT? YES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE YEAH, I, I SEE THAT ON THE PLAN.
AND SO EACH LOCATION, THEY'RE SELLING FOOD, UH, HAVE ITS OWN KITCHEN AND SOLD YEAH.
EVERYBODY WHO HAD THEIR, THEY'RE FULLY AUTONOMOUS AND THIS IS A, AND THEN AT THAT TIME THERE'LL BE A DIFFERENT PHRASE, PHRASE THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS ALL THAT DETAIL TOO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYONE? NO, I THINK, UH, YEAH, I THINK, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A REMARKABLE PROJECT THAT'S GONNA REALLY, I MEAN, THAT THAT AREA'S ALREADY SUPER PAC AND I THINK, UH, ADDING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO OUR COMMUNITY IS GONNA BE VERY UNIQUE.
AND, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, CONTINUING TO INVEST IN THIS, IN THE COMMUNITY OF THE CITY OF WEST.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS SURE.
FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION IN TERMS OF, UM, OF, OF YOUR INTENT.
UM, SO IF WE GO TO, LET'S SEE, THE AUP P AND I THINK IT'S PAGE TWO OF IT'S THE C U P.
SO I, I DID HAVE A, UH, A QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, UH, AND, AND GOING INTO, I THINK IT'S PARAGRAPH FIVE OF THE, UH, PROPOSED C U P RESOLUTION NUMBER 22 DASH OH FIVE, UH, FIVE SUB E.
IT SAYS, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT SHALL ONLY BE ALLOWED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPERATION OF THE FOOD HALL WHILE THE RESTAURANTS ARE OPEN TO SERVE FOOD.
I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL EVENTS INCLUDING PRIVATE EVENTS, WEDDINGS, STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WAS LISTED.
UM, ARE, IS IS THE INTENT TO NOT ALLOW LIVE ENTERTAINMENT FOR PRIVATE EVENTS? BECAUSE EFFECTIVELY THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS THAT THIS LIMITATION WOULD DO, INTENT TO NOT ALLOW LIVE MUSIC.
UH, UH, I'M CATCHING THE, SO, SO EFFECTIVELY THIS WOULD PROHIBIT LIVE MUSIC
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OR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT FROM, UH, FROM BEING ALLOWED, UM, UNLESS THE RESTAURANTS ARE OPEN TO SERVE FOOD.AND SO, OH, I, THAT, THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY MEAN THAT IF YOU HAVE A PRIVATE EVENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT CLOSES DOWN OR OCCUPIES THE WHOLE CENTER, IF, IF THE RESTAURANTS AREN'T OPEN TO SERVE FOOD AT THAT POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN'T HAVE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CAPACITY ISSUE.
MAYBE PAULINA COULD EXPLAIN ABOUT HA IF WE'RE HAVING A PRIVATE PARTY AND HAVING THOSE RESTAURANTS OPEN SIMULTANEOUSLY, THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AN OVERCROWD OF CAPACITY OVER CAPACITY OCCURRING.
HONESTLY, I THINK THE WAY THAT THE, THE CONDITION IS WORDED NOW, IT'S, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT IF THE OP, IF THE RESTAURANTS THAT, THAT ARE THERE ARE OPEN AND OPERATIONAL.
SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, UH, DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE, THE INTENT.
IT WAS JUST, SO MAYBE THE WORDING'S NOT RIGHT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE WORDING IS SUFFICIENT.
IT SHOULD SAY DURING, DURING BUSINESS HOURS, I THINK.
BUT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT LATER.
UM, NEXT, UH, THAT'S, UH, PARAGRAPH, UH, WOULD BE PARAGRAPH FIVE, E, E AND F I THINK.
AND THEN, UH, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION ON, LET'S SEE.
THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE USE PER PERMIT NUMBER 22 DASH 13, UH, ONE PARAGRAPH SUB A, UM, INDICATES THAT, UH, THE ON SALE ALCOHOL USE WILL BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPERATION OF A BONAFIDE RESTAURANT.
UM, MY QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS, FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU A CONCRETE EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT IS NEARBY IN THE CITY OF GLENORA AT GLENORA PUBLIC MARKET.
SMOG CITY OPERATES A, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS IN EFFECT A A, UH, ATTACK ROOM, RIGHT? SO IN EFFECT, THIS A U P WOULD PROHIBIT THE OPENING OF ANY BREWERY TAP ROOM ON THE FACILITY.
AND SO I, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE INTENTION FROM YOU GUYS? IS THAT YOU WANT THAT LIMITATION IN PLACE? NO, I THINK, CAN I CLARIFY REAL QUICK IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, CHAIR LEWIS? SURE.
SO THE INTENT IS, BECAUSE THIS IS A MASTER AUP FOR THE AREA, UM, IT'S, IT WOULD REQUIRE ONE BONAFIDE RESTAURANT FOR THE ENTIRE SPACE.
SO YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL BEER OR DISTILLERY TASTING ROOMS THERE.
AS LONG AS A ONE A RESTAURANT, BONAFIDE RESTAURANT WASN'T IN, IN OPERATION, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
SO IT SHOULD SAY AT LEAST ONE BONAFIDE RESTAURANT, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
WELL, I DIDN'T, THAT'S AN E B C.
SO A U P, UM, THE RESOLUTION, UH, NUMBER 22 DASH 6 117 AUP P UH, NUMBER 22 DASH 13.
IT SAYS THE ONSITE, THE ON SALE ALCOHOL, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ONSITE OR ON SALE, BUT IT SAYS THE ON ON SALE ALCOHOL USE WILL BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPERATION OF A BONAFIDE RESTAURANT.
UM, THAT'S PARAGRAPH ONE SUB A IN THE RESOLUTION.
PAGE TWO, BOTTOM HALF OF PAGE TWO.
WHAT PAGE IS THAT? PAGE TWO OF A U P.
THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND LET'S MOVE TO DISCUSSION AND, UH, IF WE HAVE A MOTION, ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER, HANG? NO.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, VICE CHAIR GUTIERREZ.
UM, SO I'LL MAKE A, UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK, IF NOT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 22 DASH ZERO FIVE, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF WEST PHOENIX, CALIFORNIA, IMPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2205 FOR HEAVEN CITY MARKET APPLICANT DAVID LINE LOCATED AT 9 93 SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE.
IF, IF I CAN THROW IN THOSE, OH, YES, THOSE, THOSE TWO.
COMMISSIONER LEWIS', UH, TWO CHANGES INCLUDED.
OKAY, THEN, THEN I WILL SECOND.
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I JUST, I WANNA VERIFY SURE.THE, UH, CHANGES, SO TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, THE CHANGES ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FIVE E WOULD YEAH.
BE REFERENCED TO INSTEAD OF THE OPERATION OF FOOD HALL WHILE RESTAURANTS ARE OPEN, BUT DURING BUSINESS HOURS, COR CORRECT.
I, I THINK, I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY PUT WHATEVER THE, THE BUSINESS HOURS WHERE, UM, WHERE AMPLIFIED MUSIC ARE ALLOWED IN THE CITY.
AND I THINK THAT BEGINS, I THINK IT BEGINS AT LIKE 8:00 AM AND THEN ENDS AT 10 OR 10 30.
I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT WHATEVER THE CODE ALLOWS IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
AND THEN FOR THE AUP P IT WOULD BE CHANGE TO, UM, AT LEAST ONE BONAFIDE RESTAURANT IN ONE SUB A YES.
OPERATION OF AT LEAST ONE BONAFIDE RESTAURANT.
SO THEN I HAVE A MOTION, I HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER HANG BEAT ME TO ROLL CALL.
OH, COMMISSIONER HANK AYE UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? AYE.
THIS DECISION IS FINAL UNLESS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS.
WE HAVE NO NON-HEARING ITEMS. UH, LET'S MOVE TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. DOES ANYONE ON THE THE COMMISSION HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OR COMMENT ON AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO
[4. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT]
THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT.PAUL, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION? GOOD EVENING.
WELL, YES, A COUPLE ITEMS. UM, THIS WILL BE OUR LAST PLANNING COMMISSION FOR 2022.
SO I WANTED TO WISH EVERYONE A MARIAN JOLLY HOLIDAY SEASON AND WISH EVERYONE, UM, A, UH, HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS AND FULL OF HEALTHLY NEW YEAR.
UM, AND THEN ALSO SINCE WE DIDN'T DO IT LAST TIME, BUT, UH, IT IS, LIKE I SAID, OUR LAST MEETING WANTED TO CONGRATULATE OUR, UH, CHAIR LEWIS, UM, FOR HIS REELECTION TO, UM, OUR, AS OUR CITY, UH, CLERK.
SO CONGRATULATIONS,
UM, AND THEN ANNOUNCED THAT AT THE, UH, NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, JANU, OR SORRY, DECEMBER 20TH, WE WILL BE DOING THE REORGANIZATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UM, CERTIFYING THE ELECTION RESULTS AND WELCOMING THE NEW, UH, NEWLY ELECTED INDIVIDUALS.
[5. CITY COUNCIL ACTION]
IN REGARDS TO CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS, UH, WE, AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON DECEMBER SIX, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE 25 0 7 AND 25 0 6 PERTAINING TO THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE AND DESIGN STANDARDS.UM, AND, UH, WE WILL BE BRINGING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IN, UH, THE BEGINNING OF 2023, THE SHOPPING CART ORDINANCE THAT YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED FOR, UH, THEIR APPROVAL.
SO THAT'S IT FOR ME THIS EVENING.
UH, SINCE WE HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:29 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE.