* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] GOOD EVENING. [Call to Order] WELCOME TO OUR FEBRUARY 15TH, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IT IS 7 0 3 AND OUR, UH, WE ARE NOW IN SESSION. MAYOR CASTELLANO'S IS SICK TODAY, SO I WILL BE CONDUCTING THE MEETING. UM, THIS, UH, EVENING TONIGHT'S INVOCATION WILL BE HELD BY PASTOR FROM EMMANUELLE FIRST LUTHERAN CHURCH AND COUNCIL, WOMAN LOPEZ. VIAGRA WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALL RISE. THANK YOU, MARY MAYOR, PRO TEM RACING AND PEACE TO YOU FROM GOD, OUR FATHER AND HIS SON. JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. LET US PRAY, FATHER IN HEAVEN, AS YOU ARE THE AUTHORITY ABOVE ALL AUTHORITIES, I ASK YOUR WISDOM TO BE UPON OUR CITY COUNCIL, THAT THEY MAY CARRY OUT YOUR WILL IN GUIDING OUR CITY. WE RECEIVED THEM AS A GIFT FROM YOU. BLESS THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE OUR CITY. SEND YOUR HOLY SPIRIT AMONG US THAT WE MIGHT WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY. THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE OF WEST COVINA. THANK YOU FOR ALL WHO GAVE OF THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO SERVE OUR CITY. WE ASK THEM, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. TO RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART. READY? BEGIN. PLEASE BE SEATED. YOU CAN PASS THEM. ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMAN WU COUNCIL, WOMAN LOPEZ. BEATO MAYOR PRO TEM DIAZ. HERE MAY ACCUSTOM ON US IS OUT CITY ATTORNEY. IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO REPORT OUT OF OUR CLOSED SESSION, NOTHING TO REPORT. THANK YOU. THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN WEST COVINA THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT ABOUT OUR SPRING FESTIVAL. SO [PRESENTATIONS] WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO NOW IS INVITE OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ROSEANNE TO THE FRONT AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION OF THE UPCOMING FESTIVAL. THANK YOU. A MAYOR PRO TEM DIAZ. IF YOU'D ALLOW ME JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE, I'D LIKE TO SHARE A VIDEO. FIRST. THE CITY OF WEST COVINA WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE FOLLOWING COMMUNITY GROUPS, THE SEESAW COMMUNITIES, THE EAST SAN GABRIEL VALLEY, JAPANESE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE WISC COVINA CAA THE WEST COVINA BUSINESS ASSOCIATION AND THE FILIPINO AMERICAN ASSOCIATION, THE SUPPORT AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AND OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS AND NONPROFITS. A LOT OF STUFF PUT TOGETHER. THE FIRST ANNUAL SPRING FESTIVAL. THIS EVENT IS NOT ONE THAT YOU WILL WANT TO MISS MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND JOIN US FOR THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, FOOD DRINKS, FAMILY FUN, AND MUCH MORE AT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, SPORTSPLEX, MARCH 12TH AND 13TH AT 12:00 PM. IF I MAY, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM FOR ALLOWING THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU AND THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST A VERY BRIEF UPDATE REGARDING THIS UPCOMING SPECIAL EVENT, UM, THAT IS OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY. SO THE UPCOMING SPRING FESTIVAL IS SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, MARCH 12TH AND SUNDAY, MARCH 13TH. THE PURPOSE OF THE SPRING FESTIVAL IS TO BRING VARIOUS COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL GROUPS TOGETHER IN ORDER TO REALLY CREATE A FESTIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN TRULY ENJOY AND, AND PARTICIPATE IN. UM, W COUPLE OF THE GOALS THAT THE SPRING FESTIVAL HAS IS TO ALLOW SOME OF OUR SMALLER BUSINESSES, OUR RESTAURANTS, UM, AS WELL AS THOSE BUSINESSES, TRYING TO GET STARTED, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL, GIVING THEM THE PLATFORM, THE VENUE, UM, AS AGAIN, AS WELL AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REACH A NUMBER OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY BY SELLING THEIR PRODUCTS. THE OTHER GOAL THAT WE ARE ACHIEVING BY HOSTING THE, UM, THE WEST, THE FIRST ANNUAL WEST COVINA SPRING FESTIVAL IS ALSO GIVING OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, SOME OF OUR PARTNERING ORGANIZATIONS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO FUND RAISE. SO REALLY IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY A FUN AND ACTIVE AND COMMUNITY DRIVEN ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS, UM, AND, UM, THE COMMUNITY BEYOND TO ENJOY IT ALSO, [00:05:01] UM, ACHIEVES THOSE OTHER TWO GOALS OF ALLOWING SMALL BUSINESSES, AS WELL AS OUR NONPROFIT GROUPS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO THRIVE. SO I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. LERMA A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS BIG FESTIVAL WITH SO MANY GROUPS NON-PUBLIC GOOD TO WORK TOGETHER. SO, UH, WE GOT IN THE PLACE, I THINK THE PARKING IS ONE ISSUE. OKAY. AND HOW WE ARE TO ANTICIPATE IF WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, ATTENDEES TO ATTEND THIS FESTIVAL. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PARKING, UH, MAYBE WE CAN CREATE, UH, THE BUSES FOR MAYBE PEOPLE TO TAKE THE BUS FROM THE PARK TO THE OVER THERE, LIKE 2018. WE HAVE A JULY FORCE, UH, INDEPENDENT DAY, A FIREWORK. WE HAVE ABOUT 8,000 PEOPLE IN THAT PLACE, BUT IN THE SAME TIME. OKAY. SO, SO HAVE YOU, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US HOW YOU MANAGE AND THE WAYS OF PARKING, TRAFFIC CONTROL, ET CETERA? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK HERE IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE TRIES TO ACHIEVE IS REALLY RELYING ON OUR DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERING ORGANIZATIONS. SO PROVIDING SHUTTLE SERVICES THAT ARE CONVENIENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR FESTIVAL GOERS, UM, FROM THREE PARK LOCATIONS, PRE EXCUSE ME, THREE PARK LOCATIONS FOR FREE SHUTTLE SERVICES THROUGHOUT. UM, THE DAY OF COURSE, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC CONTROL IS CONCERNED, LOOPING IN BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS, UM, MINIMAL IMPACT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE MINIMAL IMPACT AND TO MITIGATE ANY SORT OF, UM, LIABILITY THAT COULD, THAT, THAT COULD RESULT IN INCREASED TRAFFIC IN THOSE AREAS. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A FULL, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, THAT, UH, ADDRESSES, UM, ALL OF THOSE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONCERNS. VERY GOOD. OKAY. AND NEXT QUESTION ABOUT THE PROMOTION. OKAY. HAVE YOU CT PROMOTE THIS EVENT SINCE THIS IS A FIRST ANYWAY, OKAY. SUPREME FESTIVAL. SO MAYBE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, WHEREAS THEN DON'T KNOW. OKAY. ALL THE PEOPLE ARE THE RESIDENT IN DIFFERENT AREAS. THEY DON'T KNOW. SO HOW WE PROMOTE OKAY. THIS EVENT. SO WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN COME TO ENJOY THIS FESTIVITY WITH ALL DIFFERENT CULTURES IN. OKAY. AND SECOND THING IS, HAVE WE INVITE THE SCHOOL? WE HAVE SEVEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SHOULD WE CREATE A CULTURE INVITE THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT AND THEIR POOR MEMBER TO SEE THEY CAN JOIN THIS FESTIVAL BECAUSE WE ARE SERVING THE SAME POPULATION. SO MAYBE WE CAN INVITE THE PARENT, OKAY. BRING THEIR CHILDREN TO HAVE THIS KIND OF CULTURE EVENT TO APPRECIATE CHILDHOOD. SO I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WE CAN KIND OF HELP OUT TO PROMOTE THIS EVENT SO THAT PEOPLE TO KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TIME PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T KNOW WE HAVE AN EVENT, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN PROMOTE THIS. UM, I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION REGARDS TO THE PROMOTION FIRST. AND THEN I'LL ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION REGARDING, UM, SCHOOL BOARD INVITATIONS AND SCHOOL INVITE. SECOND. SO REGARDING YOUR QUESTION ABOUT PROMOTION, THE CITY IS UTILIZING SOME OF ITS MORE TRADITIONAL SENSE. SOCIAL MEDIA IS NOW TRADITIONAL. I THINK A LOT OF CITIES AND OTHER AGENCIES RELY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. UM, ANOTHER, UM, ASPECT OF, UM, PROMOTION THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO LEVERAGE TO IS YELP. UM, YELP DOES HAVE A, UM, QUITE A BIT OF FOLLOWING. THEY DO A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER. THEY ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO US, UM, TO PROVIDE PR, UM, TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REACH THEIR, I BELIEVE THEY SAID THEY HAVE 140 K UM, SUBSCRIBERS FOR THEIR MONTHLY NEWSLETTER IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY. AND THEN THEY'LL ALSO EXTEND THAT SAME ADVERTISEMENT FEATURING, UM, OUR FESTIVAL IN THE LA METRO AREA AS WELL. UM, CLOSE AGAIN TO THAT 140 K UM, SUBSCRIBER, IN ADDITION TO THAT, PUTTING IT ON THEIR MESSAGE BOARDS AND THEN ABSOLUTELY RELYING ON OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO ASSIST, UM, IN THE PROMOTION FOR THIS EVENT, BECAUSE IT TRULY IS A COMMUNITY DRIVEN, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER COMMITTEE FOCUSED EVENT. UM, REGARDING YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. UM, BUT WE ACTUALLY, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN REACH OUT, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, FLYERS AND A, UH, BOOTH INVITATION, THOSE HAVE BEEN EXTENDED. UM, AND WE ARE SLOWLY GETTING SOME OF THOSE IN, UM, THE, THE, THE BIG PUSH RIGHT NOW, OR NOT SO MUCH THE BIG PUSH RIGHT NOW, BUT WHERE WE'RE RECEIVING A LOT OF RESPONSES RIGHT NOW ARE A FOOD BOOTH VENDORS, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY CIRCLE BACK TO THOSE SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL AS TO SOME OF THE, UM, ORGANIZATIONS AND CLUBS THAT ARE WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE AS WELL. OKAY. BUT MY LAST QUESTION WILL BE, HAVE YOU SENT OUT THE FLYER TO ALL THE SENIOR OKAY. COMPLEX. OKAY. AND I WAS SENIOR CENTERS OR MAKE SURE OR I WAS SENIOR. NO, WE HAVE EVENTS. THEY ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND. WE WILL ENSURE THAT THEY ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND AND THAT THEY, UM, [00:10:01] FEEL THAT THEY ARE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND A PART OF THIS EVENT, JUST AS ANY OTHER, UM, AGE DEMOGRAPHIC IN OUR COMMUNITY. ANYONE ELSE? NOPE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE. I REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SPRING FESTIVAL. THANK YOU. [ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - Five (5) minutes per speaker] OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO, UM, OR COMMUNICATIONS. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE FILL OUT YOUR YELLOW SPEAKER CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE ASSISTANT CITY CLERK. ANY EMAILS RECEIVED BY 5:00 PM HAVE BEEN POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE. ALL EMAILS ARE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING CELL TOWER ITEM YOU CAN DO. SO DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING, HOW MANY, UM, HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? FIVE SPEAKER SLIPS FOR, UH, GENERAL COMMENTS, MAYOR PRO TEM. OKAY. UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO SET A SPEAKING TIME FOR THREE MINUTES. DO I HAVE A CONSENSUS? I'M OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, SO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START. UM, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS HERMAN FOLLOWED BY TONYA. LIMONE FOLLOWED BY MIKE GREENSPAN. WHERE'S THE CRY BABY. MR. DARELL. YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE AWAY OUR PUBLIC TIME. MOMMY ROSARIO DIAZ WANTS TO DO THE SAME. WELL, WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF RACISTS DISCRIMINATORY ISSUES WE HAVE HERE, RIGHT? PUBLIC YOU'RE DEPRIVED. YOU'RE FIVE MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES TO BE HEARD DOWN TO THREE MINUTES. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR SOCIETY THAT ARE RACIST AND DENY THE PUBLIC, THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD. AND OPINIONATE ON. WHAT'S GOOD FOR OUR SMALL CITY. AND WHAT IS BAD, JUST LIKE THIS SPECIAL EVENT DURING A TIME, AS YOU SEE, MOST OF THE SEATS HERE IN CITY HALL ARE TAPED UP. SO FROM A MONTH FROM NOW, THINGS ARE GOING TO GET BETTER WITH COVID. APPARENTLY NOT BECAUSE IF THEY DID HILDA, ELSA LEASE WOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE PROBLEM PER AND THAT IDIOT, BARBARA FERRAR. HOWEVER, THE COUNTRY'S FIRST IDIOT PRESIDENT TROUBLING IS A STATEMENTS, IMPLORING OTHERS TO SHOOT THE NIG. LET'S THIS COUNTRY BE A, B I T C H F K D FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS. IT GOES ON AND ON BECAUSE NEVER IN THE HISTORY HAS A, AN PERSON DON ANYTHING. RIGHT? SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST CENSOR ME NOW? YOU DON'T LIKE THE FIRST AMENDMENT. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT. YOU DON'T DO SHIT FOR THE VETERANS THAT SLEEP ON OUR STREETS DAILY AND THE ELDERLY THAT EVEN MR. WOO TONY. WOO DOESN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE DISABLED, ELDERLY, HOW THE FUCK THEY GOING TO GET TO THE EVENT IN MARCH? SO NOW WE HAVE THE TYRANNICAL POINTING HIS HAND. I USUALLY CAUSE TRUE. THANK YOU, SIR. TONYA. LAMONE FOLLOWED BY MIKE GREEN FAN FOLLOWED BY LORRAINE. LIMONE RIGHT HERE. [00:15:13] MANY YEARS, BUT CONSECUTIVELY FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS. UM, I'VE BROUGHT, I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION A INCIDENT, A COUPLE OF INCIDENTS THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE CITY, UH, WITH A FAMILY THAT HAD FORMERLY HELD OFFICE HERE FOR WEST COVINA AND ARE ACTING ABOVE THE LAW AND ARE HIDING FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE. UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES BETWEEN THAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ALSO TO, UH, TO YOU GUYS. BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. MY SON WAS ASSAULTED AT WEST COVINA HIGH SCHOOL ON THIS PAST TUESDAY. UH, HE WAS DRIVEN THERE BY THE MOTHER OF THE FORMER COUNCIL. I'M SORRY, NOT THE FORMAL COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT SHE'S A FAMILY MEMBER WAS DRIVEN THERE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE TO ASSAULT MY CHILDREN, THAT THE SCHOOL, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE SCHOOL THERE, THEY DIDN'T HANDLE IT PROPERLY AS MUCH AS THEY COULD, BUT THIS PERSON WAS CIRCUMVENTING THE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT CHILDREN LIKE MYSELF, LIKE MINE, AS WELL AS OTHER STUDENTS ON THURSDAY, THEY CAME TO MY HOME, TRIED TO BREAK IN THE DESTROYED MY PROPERTY. AND THEY ALSO, UM, I HAD TO CHASE THEM AWAY FROM MY HOUSE. THEY WERE TRYING TO HURT MY CHILDREN TO BREAK INTO MY HOME. AND THEY WERE DRIVEN THERE THAT DAY BY THEIR FATHER. UM, IT WASN'T JUST THOSE STUDENTS OR THOSE CHILDREN. ALSO, IT WAS OTHER ONES THAT THEY HAD PICKED UP FROM THE COMMUNITY. UM, I'M BRINGING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, BECAUSE IT ALSO TOOK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 30 MINUTES TO GET TO MY HOME. I HAD TO CALL 9 1 1, 3 TIMES FOR THE, FOR THEM TO GET THERE. AND BEFORE THEY GOT THERE AND DIDN'T WHEN THEY DID GET THERE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY DID A COMPREHENSIVE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE OF WHO THIS FAMILY IS. THEY WERE NOT ARRESTED. THE FATHER WAS NOT ARRESTED. THE MOTHER WAS NOT ARRESTED ON TUESDAY WHEN THE POLICE WERE THERE. AND I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE OF THE FORMER INFLUENCE OF THIS FAMILY THAT THEY MAY HAVE OVER THE CITY OR THEIR CONNECTIONS. AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AND I WILL BE HERE AT EVERY MEETING FOR THE NEXT, FOR HOWEVER LONG I HAVE TO, UNTIL THERE IS CHANGE MADE, I WILL BE AT THE SCHOOL BOARD UNTIL THERE IS CHANGED, MADE. I HAVE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HERE IN SUPPORTIVE ME WHO ARE AFRAID FOR THEIR CHILDREN AS WELL, WHO ARE AFRAID FOR THEIR CHILDREN AS WELL, BECAUSE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THIS. MY CHILDREN WERE AFRAID TO GO TO SCHOOL. I HAD TO SLEEP IN A HOTEL THURSDAY NIGHT BECAUSE OF WHAT THIS FAMILY HAD DONE AND THE WAY THAT THEY ACTIVATION NOT BE ACTING LIKE THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW, BUT THEY SHOULD BE EXEMPLIFYING THE STANDARDS OF WHAT WE AS WEST COVINA. I LOVE THE CITY. I CAME BACK TO THE CITY, MY STUDENT, MY KIDS HAVE GONE THROUGH SINCE KINDERGARTEN TO THIS CITY. I DO NOT WANT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS, OR FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THIS. LIKE YOU SEND YOUR KIDS TO WEST COVINA HIGH SCHOOL, LIKE WHY NOT SOUTH HILLS? YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S NOT WHAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. RIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO BUILD TO BETTER OUR CITY TO HAVE MORE STUDENTS TO GET OUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS UP. AND THAT'S WHAT I TRY TO DO. BUT WHEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THIS AND PARENTS LIKE THIS, UM, I KNOW MY TIME IS UP. MY MOTHER HAD ALSO SIGNED INTO SPEAK AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO YIELD HER TIME TO ME IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU GUYS. SO I MAY PLEASE. THAT'S FINE. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, AND, AND AGAIN, UM, I DID PRESS CHARGES AGAINST THOSE BOYS. UH, THEY WENT TO THAT FAMILY MEMBER'S HOUSE. OKAY. UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY HIS NAME BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY BEEN POSTING IT ALL ON THE FORUM, BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE HE REGULARLY CRITICIZES YOU GUYS. SO I'M PRETTY SURE YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT. UM, HE, UH, THEY WENT TO GO IN AND PRESENT THE CITATION TO THE BOYS BECAUSE THEY DID PRESS BATTERY CHARGES. AND HE DID NOT EVEN ALLOW THE POLICE IN HIS HOME SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT THERE WHEN THEY DO RESIDE THERE. SO HE IS HIDING THEM FROM THE CONSEQUENCES AND FROM MY CHILDREN, GETTING THE JUSTICE THAT THEY DESERVE AND ALL THE OTHER STUDENTS, I'M NOT JUST WORRIED ABOUT MINE, BECAUSE IF IT COULD HAPPEN TO MY CHILDREN, IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYBODY'S CHILDREN. BULLYING IS GETTING OUT OF HAND ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IT IS OUT OF HAND, I'VE BEEN THREATENED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. MY KIDS HAVE BEEN THREATENED. IT'S JUST IT. I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE CITY NEEDS TO STEP IN WHERE THEY CAN AND WHERE THEY NEED TO TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. SO WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE RESPONSE TIME, THAT WAS REALLY BAD, REALLY, REALLY BAD. I HAD TO PROTECT MY HOME WITH A BAT. THAT'S HOW I HAD TO PEE BECAUSE THESE STUDENTS WERE SO AGGRESSIVE. THESE KIDS WERE SO AGGRESSIVE. THEY ASSAULTED MY NEIGHBOR DOWN THE STREET WHO HAD PULLED IN TO PREVENT THEM FROM ATTACKING MY HOME. AND HE'S A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER. HE DID GIVE A STATEMENT TO THE POLICE, BUT THEY PUSHED HIM. THEY SURROUNDED HIS CAR, THEY WERE HITTING HIS CAR. AND IT'S BECAUSE THAT THEY DO NOT FEEL ANY CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE OF WHO THE FAMILY IS. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I REALLY, REALLY NEED YOUR SUPPORT AND REALLY NEED A PLAN OF ACTION TO BE PUT IN PLACE TO STOP THIS. SO I IMPLORE YOU, PLEASE. IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO KEEP MY CHILDREN SAFE, TO KEEP THE OTHER CHILDREN [00:20:01] SAFE. I REALLY NEED YOU GUYS TO STEP UP AND TO PLEASE ACT, THANK YOU. WELCOME. EXCUSE ME. DOES SHE HAVE YOUR INFORMATION? DOES SHE HAVE YOUR INFORMATION, PHONE NUMBER, ADDRESS, AND ALL THAT? OKAY. THANK YOU. I GOT YOU. I GOT YOU. OKAY. MY GREENSPAN FOLLOWED BY LORRAINE. LIMONE FOLLOWED BY JIM BRIDGER. MIKE GREENSPAN. LET ME GIVE A GOOD OLD NORTH FLORIDA PERSPECTIVE TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER BY A GUN. AFTER ALL THEY WORK WONDERS, THEY STOPPED LOTS OF CRIME AFTER ALL GO PICK ON SOME LITTLE OLD LADY IN THE PANHANDLE OF WEST FLORIDA. AND SHE'LL PULL A PISTOL OUT OF HER PERSON. YOU WON'T DO IT AGAIN NOW. OH, AND AS FAR AS THAT I'M BIGOTED LUTHERAN MINISTER. YEAH. I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR MENTIONING JESUS, EVEN THOUGH JESUS WOULD GET NO CHRISTMAS DINNER, KIBO TIM AQUANTIVE COUNTRY CLUB IN JOKES AND BILL. AND I REMEMBER THE LUTHERANS WOULDN'T LET ME REFEREE THEIR BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT BECAUSE I'M NOT ONE OF THEM. I'M JEWISH FUCKING BIG AFTER ALL, NOT YOUR TIME IS RUNNING. YOUR TIME IS RUNNING. CONTINUE. THANK YOU. THE RAIN LAMAR FOLLOWED BY JEFF RUDRA FOLLOWED BY MY GROUND. UM, THE ONE I'M THE MOTHER OF TONYA LEHMAN AND I YIELD MY TIME TO HER. SO, UM, THERE'S THINGS I WANT TO SAY, BUT, UM, IF SHE ALREADY USED MY TIME, THEN, UM, I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING. RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK, I MEAN, BUT WE DID YIELD THE TIME TO HER, SO YEAH, I, SO I CAN'T SPEAK THEN, CAUSE I ALREADY YELLED THE TIME PRETTY MUCH. OKAY. I THANK YOU. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS TAKE CARE OF IT. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THAT. SO I'M A LONG TIME. I WAS A LONG TIME RESIDENT AND THE BULLYING HAS TO STOP. AND MY GRANDSON, ONE OF MY GRANDSONS, HE'S AUTISTIC AND THEY PICKED ON HIM AND I DON'T LIKE IT. I UNDERSTAND. OH, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. AND, AND WEST COVINA NEEDS TO NEEDS TO ADDRESS THIS. YES, I AM SO, SO UPSET ABOUT ALL THIS AND HOW MY, MY DAUGHTER, SHE'S A SINGLE MOM AND HOW THEY HAD TO COME TO HER HOUSE AND SHE HAS TO BE GOING ALL [00:25:01] OVER THE PLACE TO FILE A COMPLAINT IN HERE, FILE A COMPLAINT THERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING IT UNTIL SOMEBODY DOES THIS. OKAY, PLEASE, PLEASE. AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHO THIS FAMILY MEMBER IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. MA'AM OKAY. THANK YOU, JIM BRUH, FOLLOWED BY MIKE BROWN, FOLLOWED BY JOHN SHOEMAKER, MAYOR PRO TEM DIAZ, COUNCIL MEMBERS, JIM RUDOLPH, UH, REPRESENTING THE FIRE MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER THREE. UH, WE REALIZED THAT FISCAL DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE FOR THE CITY ARE ALWAYS THE MOST CRUCIAL ONES TONIGHT. I'M HERE JUST TO REASSURE YOU THAT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN MET. STAFF HAS WORKED HARD WITH THE FIRE MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAME TO A FAIR CONCLUSION IN OUR MEET AND CONFER PROCESS. WE KNOW THAT YOU'LL GIVE THIS ITEM FAIR CONSIDERATION AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR POSITIVE VOTE OR YIELD MY TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. MIKE BROWN FOLLOWED BY JOHN SHOEMAKER. GOOD EVENING TO MAYOR CASINOS, MAYOR PRO TEM DIAZ AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU TONIGHT, YOUR CONSIDERATION AND IMPROVING THE FIRE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, IT'S BEEN OVER SEVEN YEARS SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN CONTRACT. THIS TOOK A LOT OF WORK TO GET THIS PROPOSAL PUT TOGETHER. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER AND HELEN TRAN AND ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS THAT WORKED HARD TO COME TO THIS FAIR AGREEMENT. UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU TONIGHT FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THIS CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE FIRE MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU, JOHN SHOEMAKER, THE GIRL, UH, BILL ROBINSON. GOOD EVENING. UH, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE GOV'S INDOOR MASK MANDATE EXPIRES TOMORROW. UH, SOME THINK, BUT A TOTALITARIAN MEDIA BRAINWASHING FEAR-MONGERING WILL LIKELY BE REIMPOSED AFTER A NOVEMBER'S ELECTION. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE COUNCIL BELIEVES WE CAN'T AFFORD A BRAND NEW HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT REPLACES PRESENTLY PAID FOR LA COUNTY HEALTH SERVICES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY'S FORMER SENIOR CONGREGATE MEAL PROGRAMS STOPPED TWO YEARS AGO, BUT WE, BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD A GRAFFITI REMOVAL SERVICE CITYWIDE, WHICH ATHENS SERVICE WASTE MONOPOLY MAY SOON PROVIDE USING HIGHER FRANCHISE FEES. UTILITY TAXES INCREASE COSTS BORN BY CITY RESIDENTS. COUNCIL DOESN'T CARE THAT RESIDENTS WILL BE PAYING MORE AND GETTING LESS A GRAFFITI REMOVAL. THE ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL BURDENS MEANS NOTHING, BUT, BUT CITY, THE CITY'S HIGHER COSTS, CABLE SERVICE AND WASTE DISPOSAL, UH, COSTS NEED EXPLANATIONS. ALL THE COVID-19 VACCINES OR BIO WEAPONS, PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY INDUCED MEDICAL TYRANNY MUST IN FASCISM. THAT IS EGREGIOUS GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE EMPLOYER INTERFERENCE WITH OUR US CONSTITUTION AND HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS, UH, SECURED BY NATURAL LAW, UH, EMBODIED IN THE NUREMBERG CODES, UH, YOU KNOW, STATE CONSTITUTION, UH, YOU KNOW, [00:30:01] IT MUST END DEFEAT VACS MANDATES, UH, DEFEAT, UH, PERVASIVE MEDICAL CENSORSHIP SPREAD ACROSS THE LAND BY PHARMA MONOPOLY, APP ADVERTISERS SATURDAY, MARCH 5TH, A LOS ANGELES, UH, TRUCKER RALLY WILL COMMENCE, UH, THAT'LL UH, SOLVE THIS PROBLEM STAYS TUNED. UH, THE DEATH RATE FOR THOSE AGED 18 TO 64 HAS RISEN AT AN ASTONISHING 40% OVER PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. LAST YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE CA EEO OF, UH, INDIANA INDIANAPOLIS BASED INSURANCE COMPANY, ONE AMERICA QUOTE, WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW, THE HIGHEST DEATH RATES WE'VE SEEN IN THE HISTORY OF THE INSURANCE BUSINESS. NOT AT, AT ONE AMERICA SAID SCOTT DAVIDSON HEAD OF A A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLAR INSURANCE COMPANY. UH, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, A SPIKE IN LYMPH LYMPHOMA, CANCERS, UH, MISCARRIAGES AUTO-IMMUNE DISEASE, BLOOD CLOTS, HEART ATTACKS, STROKES, UH, MORE VICTIM MOCK AUTOPSIES OF THE COVID TRAGEDY NEEDED TO BE CONDUCTED TO FIND INFORMATION FOR, UH, GRAND JURIES OR TASK FORCE INVESTIGATIONS, DEATH RATES, UNPRECEDENTED AND HIGHER THAN EVEN THE WORST YEARS OF WORLD WAR TWO LEADS ME TO PROPOSE THAT MAYBE WE COULD BUILD A, UH, COVID MUSEUM BKK PROPERTY FOR FUTURE WEST COVINA, TOURISM, ELLIOT, PRETTY EVERYTHING CITY COUNCIL. DO YOU MEAN YOUR HONOR? UH, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS TONIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, UH, THIS LADY WHOSE KIDS INVOLVED IN THIS THING WITH, YOU KNOW, WHO, YOU KNOW, SHE OBVIOUSLY HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT. UM, MY ADVICE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LEAVE HIM ALONE. HE WAS THAT FAMILY ALONE BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE DANGEROUS. THEY'RE CAPABLE OF A LOT. JUST BE CAREFUL. SHE'S THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION. HE'S BEEN KICKED OFF EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE IN THE CITY. SHE'S VILE, SHE'S INSULTING, HE'S RUDE. HE'S VULGAR, JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE, IGNORE HIM. AND, UH, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANYBODY, UH, ROUSING, A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR ANY OF THEM. AND, UH, I HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DO WHATEVER THEY CAN DO AND HELP IN THAT REGARD, UH, ATHENS. WOW. I HAVE SUCH MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT ATHENS AND I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING, BUT I'M GONNA ANYWAY. UH, FIRST OF ALL, ATHENS IS THE CADILLAC PLAN AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ATHENS, I THINK WE WOULD ALL MISS IT. AND THAT'S IN NO WAY AN ENDORSEMENT FOR ATHENS BECAUSE THEY, FRANKLY, THEY PISSED ME OFF A COUPLE OF TIMES. UH, BUT THEY ARE THE CADILLAC SERVICE. I HAVE 103 YEAR OLD NEIGHBOR WHO CANNOT BRING HIS TRASH CANS FROM, FROM THE HOUSE TO THE STREET. AND IT'S UNDERSTOOD ON THAT ROUTE, THAT DRIVER STOPS, THE TRUCK GETS OUT, OPENS THE BACKYARD GATE, BRINGS THEIR TRASH, PUTS IT BACK WHEN HE'S DONE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT FROM ANOTHER, ANOTHER TRASH COMPANY. UM, ATHENS IS PRETTY RESPONSIVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL REQUESTS. WE HAVE THERE A BIG CLEANUP ONCE A YEAR. UH, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE PAY AS MUCH AS WE DO, BUT NOTHING IS FREE AND EVERYTHING'S GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE. AND, UH, I THINK THEY'RE A PRETTY RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITY MEMBER AS FAR AS, UH, THINGS THEY'VE DONE FOR THE CITY PHILANTHROPY AND WHATNOT. UM, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE THE CONCERTS IN THE PARK WITHOUT ATHENS. AND, UH, SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE MAKING THAT DECISION ABOUT ATHENS OR NOT, OR ANY DECISION BECAUSE IT'S VERY COMPLICATED AND I'M GLAD IT'S NOT ME. UH, WE HAD A STORM TODAY. WE HAD A LOT OF RAIN ON MY WAY, MY COMMUTE HOME, AND, UH, WE NEED IT. THE WINTER IS NOT OVER YET. AND THAT 80 DEGREES THAT WAS JUST THEM TEASING US. AND, UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL DAY IN WEST COVINA. I HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR PRO TEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, CITY MANAGER, WHICH YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. I'LL TRY TO RESPOND BRIEFLY TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME FOLLOWUP, UM, ARMANDO, [00:35:01] HERMAN. UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE IN THESE CHAMBERS AFFIRM THE DIGNITY AND THE WORTH OF EVERYONE WHO COMES HERE AND WE DEFEND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. UM, THE LAMONS AND THE OTHER SPEAKERS WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UM, INCIDENT I'M AWARE OF IT. I WILL, UM, REVIEW YOUR CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO THE RESPONSE TIMES AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE WITH THE CHIEF. AND WE WILL, UM, GET BACK TO YOU ABOUT THOSE THINGS. UM, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEFS, RUDOLPH AND BROWN. UM, JUST LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. UM, TWO OF OUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT, MR. ROBINSON, MR. ELLIOT TALKED ABOUT THE ATHENS CONTRACT, WHICH IS ON AGENDA FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. THERE'S SOME NEW STATE LAWS WHICH TRANSFER MANY, MANY NEW RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE CITY AND WE'LL REVIEW THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN THAT CONTRACT. IN SOME DETAIL, WE HAVE A REPORT FOR YOU TONIGHT ON THAT AGENDA ITEM WHEN IT COMES UP. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR PUTIN. I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. MAYBE CHIEF, THE CHIEF AROUND JULIA WILL COME DOWN PLEASE. OKAY. I WANT TO KNOW WHY IT TOOK 30 MINUTES. OKAY. AND I KNOW WHY NOW PER SUPPOSEDLY OUR POLICE VERY PROACTIVE. OKAY. AND, UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A LEAD TOO MANY COMPLAINT COMPARED WITH COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, SO MAYBE WE CAN GIVE US SOME, OKAY. OKAY. MOBILE THAN WAITING. THE, MAYBE YOU CAN TELL US WHAT HAPPENED. AND, UH, BY THE WAY, REGARDING DALE, WE POLL, WE DO ANYTHING. TRY TO MEDIATE, OKAY. TO CG ASIAN PEOPLE IS ESCALATE ALL THE CONTROL. SO WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU PLEASE SHARE WITH US? WELL, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T THERE. I HAVE SOMEONE LOOKING UP THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW. I JUST DON'T HAVE THEM IN MY HANDS. SO I, IT'S KINDA HARD FOR ME TO RESPOND TO THE RESPONSE TIMES BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT, UM, WE'LL CERTAINLY SHARE THAT INFORMATION. UM, WITH RESPECT TO GIVING FAVORITISM, TO ANY FAMILY, I'VE PRIDED MYSELF ON NOT DOING THAT. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A COUNCIL MEMBER. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S, UH, MY FAMILY MEMBER. IT DOESN'T MATTER. I DON'T PLAY FAVORITISM TO ANYBODY BUT NOT BEING OUT THERE. I DON'T MAKE THE ARREST. SO NOW I HAVE TO WORK BACKWARDS, FIND THE CALL, FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY DID. I DID HEAR ABOUT THE CALL. SO I KNEW THAT WAS PENDING, BUT WE HAVE SERGEANTS LIEUTENANTS AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE THERE TO LOOK AT THE SITUATION TO DETERMINE IF, UH, IF AN ARREST IS APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME, I WASN'T THERE. SO I'M SORRY. I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I'LL GET THE INFORMATION AND I'LL DEFINITELY GET BACK TO THE FAMILY. I CAN SAY THIS. I BELIEVE THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED LAST WEEK. I RECEIVED NOT ONE CALL FROM THE FAMILY OR ANYBODY ELSE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE TONIGHT. SO TONIGHT THEY'D SHOW UP AND THEY SPRING ALL THIS ON THE CITY WITHOUT EVEN GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH IT. SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE FAMILY CONTACT ME AND AT LEAST GIVE ME A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO IT. AND THEN MAYBE THAT WILL HELP, BUT I'M NOT IN THEIR SITUATION. I'VE HEARD SOME THINGS HERE TONIGHT. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S ABOUT SITUATION, UH, BUT WE'LL GET TO IT AND I'LL MAKE SURE OUR GUYS DID THE RIGHT THING, WHETHER THEY THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF. SO WIDE, I REQUEST TO HAVE A FAIR INVESTIGATION FOR THE RESIDENT. OKAY. AND AS SEND TIME TO MAKE SURE. OKAY. AND WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AS IT IS AP, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. OKAY. AND THE SCHOOL WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE, SAFE, UH, IN THE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT. SO WE WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS, I THINK THEY'RE ALL MINOR BY THE SAME TIME WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OKAY. WE CAN OKAY. SMOOTH. OKAY. AND SOLVE THIS ISSUE. OH, I AGREE. I KNOW BECAUSE YOU SEE A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAVE A LOT OF ISSUE. OKAY. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BP, FOR ANY OF THESE THINGS HAPPENED TO MAKE SURE THEY FEEL SAFE. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ENOUGH. OKAY. UM, LET'S [CITY MANAGER'S REPORT] MOVE ON TO THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL. I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE ITEMS TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A BUSY AGENDA. I'LL BE, WE'LL BE QUICK ABOUT IT. UM, WE ARE CONTINUING WITH OUR COVID-19 TESTING SERVICES. THE DEMAND HAS FALLEN WAY OFF. SO WE SHUT DOWN THE SITE HERE AT CITY HALL. WE JUST DIDN'T THINK IT WAS JUSTIFIED TO CONTINUE IT. WE ARE STILL RUNNING IT AT TWO LOCATIONS, SHADOW WE'LL PARK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND AT, UM, UM, CORTEZ SENIOR CENTER TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. SO IF ANYONE HAS NEED OF THOSE SERVICES THERE, THEY'RE FREE. AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. AND WE'LL, WE'LL BE THERE AS LONG AS THERE'S A NEED FOR IT. NEXT SLIDE. UM, THE HOMELESS SERVICES AUTHORITY HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON IT'S ONCE A YEAR, POINT IN TIME, A HOMELESS COUNT. UM, NOW SCHEDULED [00:40:01] FOR TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22ND. THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR VOLUNTEERS. SHOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED IN THAT SERVICE THAT EVENING AS A VOLUNTEER? UM, I THINK THE HOURS ARE 8:00 PM TO MIDNIGHT OR A LITTLE LATER, BUT IT'S CRITICAL FOR US THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO QUANTIFY AND ADDRESS THAT, THAT SITUATION, THOSE PROBLEMS. NEXT SLIDE AT YOUR LAST MEETING, THE COUNCIL ASKED US TO DO A QUICK OVERVIEW IN TERMS OF A PARK ASSESSMENT. UM, THE STAFF DID THAT THE CITY HAS A TOTAL OF 16 PARKS. AND, UM, SINCE THEN STAFF MADE VISITS TO ALL THOSE PARKS AND IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENT. UM, SPECIFICALLY WE HAD SOME TREES THAT WERE JUST, UM, ONE GOOD WIND AWAY FROM GOING IN THE LAST WIND STORM. WE HAD, UM, SOME PRETTY SEVERE TREES COME DOWN AGAINST SOME HOUSES. AND SO WE, UM, ACTED RIGHT AWAY TO MITIGATE THOSE, THOSE HAZARDOUS TREES OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A SECOND ROUND OF THOSE GROUNDS AND WE'LL HAVE REPORT TO YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING AS TO TRYING TO QUANTIFY WHAT THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES ARE AND THE COST OF THOSE THINGS. NEXT SLIDE. UM, WE'VE BEGUN THE BUDGET PROCESS. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALWAYS AUDIT TIME OR BUDGET TIME AND WE'VE BEGUN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. WE'LL BE, UM, PRESENTING IT TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC IN MAY. AND THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE FORMAT SLIGHTLY. AND WE'RE GOING TO EMPHASIZE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, WHICH I THINK IS A, IS A, A HALLMARK OF A WELL-RUN ORGANIZATION. AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. UM, NEXT SLIDE IS ABOUT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. OUR DEPARTMENT DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF RESPONDING TO MUTUAL AID. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, ENABLES US TO DO THAT THROUGH THE USE OF OUR PROGRAM, THE URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE PROGRAM IS WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT MEMBERS, UH, QUALIFIED AT THE TECHNICIAN LEVEL. UM, THE DEPARTMENT'S BEEN ASKED TO JOIN A, UM, FEMA, CALIFORNIA REGIONAL TASK FORCE TEAM TO, UM, WE'VE GOT 20 OF OUR MEMBERS THAT ARE CERTIFIED AT THAT TECHNICIAN LEVEL AND WE'RE EXPECTING A BUSY FIRE SEASON. SO WE'LL BE JOINING THE CITIES OF DOWNEY, SANTA FE SPRINGS, COMPTON, TORRANCE, AND ELSA GUNDO. AND WE WILL BE DEPLOYING A MINIMUM OF FOUR MEMBERS TO THOSE TYPES OF INCIDENTS. NEXT SLIDE. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IN COMPLIMENTS AND FIELD SERVICE WORK THAT OUR, UM, PUBLIC SERVICES CREWS ARE DOING OUT IN THE FIELD. THEY'RE TENDING TO A LOT OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, PAINTING, UH, THE NOSES OF THE MEDIANS AND CLEANING UP THE DEBRIS. AND, UM, IT'S A MARKET DIFFERENCE AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR MAKING THE EXTRA EFFORT. UM, THIS NEXT SLIDE, UM, IS A RENDERING OF A PROJECT THAT THE DEVELOPER IS CALLING THE GROVE AT MERCY, SAID IT'S ON MERSEYSIDE 1912 MOORE SAID RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE HEARST RANCH FACILITY. THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE CITY AS A SENIOR, UM, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, BUT MAYBE A MARK OF THE COVID CRISIS THAT DEVELOPER THAT GOT THAT PROJECT APPROVED DECIDED NOT TO PROCEED WITH IT BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST WEREN'T NEEDING OR WANTING TO SEND THEIR LOVED ONES INTO A CONGREGATE CARE TYPE FACILITY. SO THIS LATEST PROPOSAL IS FOR A 39 UNIT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TWO-STORY TOWNHOUSE PROJECT. THEY WILL BE RELEASING THE INITIAL STUDY IN THE MITIGATED NEG DEC OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO THE PUBLIC IN PRETTY SHORT ORDER. AND THAT'LL BE COMING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR HEARING. LASTLY, JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE, UM, THE RAMPS. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. [CONSENT CALENDAR] OKAY. DOES THE COUNCIL WANT TO PULL ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND I'M GOING TO PULL THE OKAY. TO AGENDA NUMBER TWO. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. OKAY. JUST SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS, ONE THROUGH FIVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO I'LL MOTION. SECOND ROLL CALL. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LOPEZ VETO A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TO BATS BY TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER TWO COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN LOPEZ. BEATA. I MAY HAVE PRO TEM DIAZ. AYE. MOTION APPROVED MOTION IS APPROVED FOUR ZERO. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. [2) CONSIDERATION OF THE SECOND QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021-22] YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR POTENT. OKAY. ON THE AGENDA, NUMBER TWO. OKAY. IT'S ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, BUT I THINK, OKAY. I'LL FINANCE DIRECTORS SHOULD GIVE US SOME KIND OF BRIEF SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT. WE, WE HIT THE TARGET IS ON OUR BUDGET AND WHAT OUR SECOND QUARTER. SO I WILL MOVE IN OKAY. TO THE THIRD QUARTER, THE FOURTH QUARTER. SO HOW WE OKAY. BY EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE OVERTIME DESIGN THAT WILL BE INTO THE TARGET. SO GO BACK. WOULD YOU PLEASE KEEP US ON BRIEF? [00:45:02] OKAY. SORRY. UM, YES. SO THIS IS THE MID YEAR QUARTERLY REVIEW. SO KEEP IN MIND THAT AT THIS POINT, UM, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A LAG IN OUR REVENUES. AND SO AT THIS POINT, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, WE'VE ONLY RECEIVED ABOUT 30% OF OUR REVENUE THROUGH DECEMBER. UM, WE HAVE SEEN, UM, SOME OF THOSE CATEGORIES TRENDING OVER BUDGET, SUCH AS CHARGES FOR SERVICES, UH, SPECIFICALLY FACILITY RENTALS, LICENSES, AND PERMITS. THAT INCLUDES BUILDING PLANS AND PLAN, UH, CHECKS, AND THEN FIND SOME FORFEITURES, SPECIFICALLY LATE PENALTY PAYMENTS AND THEN COST RECOVERY WITH FIRE MUTUAL AID. AND SO THIS, UM, REPORT BEFORE YOU INCLUDES A PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO INCREASE OUR REVENUES A LITTLE OVER 1 MILLION, UM, TO ADJUST FOR THOSE ACTUALS THAT ARE COMING IN OVER BUDGET, LOOKING AT EXPENDITURES FOR THE MID YEAR, MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE AT OR BELOW 50% OF BUDGET. UM, HOWEVER, THE FULL IMPACT OF THE SALARY INCREASES AS A RESULT OF THE MOU CONTRACTS IS NOT REFLECTED YET IN THE MID YEAR, BECAUSE THAT DID NOT OCCUR UNTIL NOVEMBER. SO WE ONLY HAD ONE MONTH OF THAT. UM, SO WE'LL SEE THE REAL IMPACTS OF THAT ON THE THIRD QUARTER REVIEW, HOWEVER, AS OF DECEMBER 31ST, 50% OF THE YEAR WAS COMPLETE 36 MILLION OR 51% OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET HAD BEEN EXTENDED. UM, MOST DEPARTMENTS ARE AT, OR BELOW BUDGET. AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE ONES THAT WERE OVER, UM, INCLUDE HR, WHICH IS OVER FOR PROFESSIONAL AND LEGAL SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE MOU CONTRACTS, WHICH IS NOT A REGULAR OCCURRING EXPENSE THAT WE TAKE ON. UM, THE NEXT IS POLICE, BUT JUST SLIGHTLY OVER AND THAT IS AN OVERTIME. OKAY. AND SO BASICALLY POLICE 1.1, OKAY. ALL THE TIME. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, OKAY, SO WHY HR IS 14.1, THE HIGHER OF OVER BUDGET? YES. AND THAT IS FOR THEIR LEGAL SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF OUR MOU CONTRACTS. SO THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY TAKE ON ANNUALLY AND THE BUDGET WAS A ROLL OVER BUDGET. SO IT DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR ONE-TIME EXPENSES THAT WE WOULD EXPEND FOR SERVICES THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO CONCLUDE ALL OF THOSE AGREEMENTS. SO BASICALLY BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING ON THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUP, SO WE USING THE ATTORNEY OKAY. TO WORK ON THIS. SO THERE'S Y OKAY. IS OVER THE BUDGET, CORRECT. OKAY. SO, BUT SO IN, IN, SINCE WE GO INTO THREE YEARS OR NEXT YEAR, IT'S 14 POINT, WHY WON'T HAPPEN? RIGHT. MAYBE A REOCCURRING THING, BECAUSE WE INTEND TO GET ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS FOR THREE YEARS AND, UH, WE WORK ON THE THREE-YEAR CONTRACT. SO THE 14.1% OF INQUIRIES SHOULD BE NOT BE RECURRING. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. AND THEN JUST TO SUMMARIZE THE MID-YEAR, UM, ACTUAL REVENUES WERE 21 MILLION LESS EXPENDITURES OF 36 MILLION. SO IT IS NEGATIVE FOR THE PERIOD, WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. AND I HAVE A CHART HERE TO SHOW WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LAST YEAR, BECAUSE WE HAD RECEIVED THE REVENUE DUE TO THE PENSION BONDS WERE ACTUALLY BETTER THAN PRIOR YEARS AT 15 MILLION. TYPICALLY WE'RE AT 17, 18 TO 16 MILLION AND THE NEGATIVE FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR, JUST HOW OUR CASHFLOW COMES IN. SO WE'RE UP FOR THE MID-YEAR. AND MOVING ON TO WHAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS ITEM IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT. UM, PART OF THIS ITEM INCLUDES THE ALLOCATION OF OUR LAST YEAR'S ON ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE PER OUR POLICY. UM, WE HAD OVER 7 MILLION AVAILABLE AND UNINSPIRED FUND BALANCE TO BE USED IN PER POLICY, UM, THAT HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE CIP FUND AND THEN TO BE USED ON OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT BE USED ON OUR SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT PLAN. SO THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT IS INCLUDED INTO THIS. WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING TO ADD THE 297,000 FOR THE ONE-TIME PAY. THAT WAS FOR THE MISCELLANEOUS GROUPS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED LAST FALL AND THEN INCREASE MUTUAL AID OVER TIME IN ORDER TO OFFSET THE REVENUE AS WELL. SO THE NET IMPACT OF THAT IS REALLY NEGATIVE OR ACTUALLY POSITIVE FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF, OF THAT REVENUE SOURCE. AND THEN ADD 15,000 FOR TUITION REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET. AND THEN OF COURSE INCREASED LEGAL SERVICES. AS I JUST EXPLAINED PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE HR IS RUNNING OVER IN THAT CATEGORY. AND THEN THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE REFLECTION OF THAT 1 MILLION I ADDRESSED EARLIER FOR BUDGET VERSUS ACTUALS TO INCREASE REVENUES, EXCLUDING THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE. THE OVERALL NET IMPACT OF THIS WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN THE BUDGET OF 442,000. [00:50:02] AND THERE'S A SUMMARY OF THAT ON THIS PAGE. UM, WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE BUDGET AND AT NET, AND THEN, UH, AFTER SEVERAL AMENDMENTS, WE WERE GOING INTO THE NEGATIVE, UM, SEVEN OVER 700,000. BUT WITH THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT WITHOUT THE USE OF THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, BECAUSE THAT IS USING RESERVE, UH, OUR FUND BALANCE FROM PRIOR YEAR, UH, WE'D BE LOOKING AT REDUCING THAT DOWN TO 2 84. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. SO, SO THE QUESTION IS OKAY ON THIS K ON THE SECOND QUARTER, WHAT WE HIT ON THE TARGET ON, ON THE, OUR SPENDING. AND I KNOW WE, OUR REVENUE HASN'T COME IN BECAUSE THE SALES OKAY. PROPERTY TAX. OKAY. AND AS THOSE HEAVY DUTY INCOME. OKAY. AND SO, BUT OKAY. YOU SHOULD GIVE A OVERALL BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU DETAIL IS SO COMPLICATED FOR US TO KIND OF DIGEST. OKAY. AND THE MOST POSSIBLE BCPA WOULD BE EASILY TO UNDERSTAND, BUT OVERALL, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND, OKAY, ARE WE HITTING THE, OKAY. THE, OKAY. THE BUDGET SPENDING AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH NEGATIVE. ARE WE GOING TO THE SURPLUS? ARE WE GOING TO BALANCE? OKAY. AND SECOND THING, I WANT TO KNOW OUR FUND BALANCE. OKAY. OUR RESERVE IS INCREASED DECREASE. OKAY. SO HOW IS OUR CURRENT FINANCE SITUATION? SO TO ADDRESS THE FIRST QUESTION WE WERE HALFWAY DONE WITH A YEAR AND EXACTLY YET, UH, 51% OF EXPENDITURES. SO WITH THAT, OUR TARGET FOR THE BUDGET SEEMS TO BE RIGHT ON FOR MID YEAR. UM, IN TERMS OF, ARE WE INCREASING RESERVES? IF WE KEEP THIS TREND FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, WE MAY SEE AN INCREASE IN RESERVES, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE REVENUE COMES IN AT. SINCE WE'D ONLY RECEIVED 30% OF OUR REVENUE, BUT AS TERMS OF EXPENDITURES, WE WERE ON TARGET PRETTY MUCH WITH 51% OR 50% OF THE YEAR. WE HAVE A TEMPORARY LEASE OFFICER. OKAY. AND 10 MAINTENANCE AND K AND A 10. OKAY. UH, PART TIME CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL SPENDING IN OUR BUDGET AS OF MID YEAR. WE WERE NOW KEEPING MIND THAT WE HADN'T FULLY HIRED ALL OF THOSE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE DON'T CANNOT. WE COOL RIGHT AWAY WITH 10 PEOPLE SOUND RETIRE AND SOME PEOPLE FILL IT IN AND WITH A PYP TO ENTRY LEVEL. OKAY. SO IN THAT WAY, WE DON'T HAVE A FULL STAFF YET. AM I RIGHT? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THE STAFF. I KNOW WHY IT'S ALL COMING FROM BALANCE. I'M SORRY, WHY IT'S ALL COHEN FROM BALANCE, THE CURRENT FUND BACK THEN, I REMEMBER IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, YOU TOLD US $24.5 MILLION. THAT IS A LAST FISCAL YEAR. IT WAS AROUND 21 MILLION. AND THEN THE CALCULATION TO GET US DOWN TO THE UNASSIGNED, UH, LEFT US TO WAS 7 MILLION BECAUSE OF HOW THE, YOU HAVE TO KEEP 75% IN RESERVE AND THEN ANOTHER 25% IN RESERVE. AND SO WE WERE LEFT WITH 7 MILLION TO ACTUALLY SPEND ON CIP. AND THEN, UH, OTHER POSTS, UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS HEAD, I WAS, HAVE TO, SORRY. OKAY. WELL, YOU HAVE TO DO THE HIDE AND SEEK. AND SO, SO, SO BASICALLY, OKAY. OKAY. OH, THIS NUMBER WE ARE OKAY. WE PRETTY HEALTHY. OKAY. FOR THE MID-YEAR ONCE. SEE THE FULL IMPACTS IN THE THIRD QUARTER, WHEN WE ACTUALLY START SEEING MORE OF THAT REVENUE AND THEN THE IMPACTS OF ALL THESE INCREASES IN SALARY, WE JUST SAW THE SECOND QUARTER, WE END UP AT DECEMBER 31ST AND NOW WE'RE MOVING TO SO QUARTER WOULD BE MUCH 31ST. YES. OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUARTER WOULD BE TO JUNE 30TH AND WE WORK. WE HAVE TO WORK ON NEXT YEAR BUDGET. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, A SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN. WE WANT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LOPEZ. THE IDA, WHEN THE ITEM NUMBER TWO COUNCIL MEMBER TO BOTS BY COUNCILMAN WU, COUNCILWOMAN LOPEZ VETO. I MAY APPROACH HIM DIAZ. I AN APPROVED ITEM IS APPROVED FOR ZERO. OKAY. [6) CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DENIAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 21-03 FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A 60-FOOT FREESTANDING WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITY AT 3540 E. CAMERON AVENUE] SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. THIS MATTER SET FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSISTS OF AN APPEAL OF THE DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO THREE, A REQUEST TO INSTALL A 60 FOOT TALL FREESTANDING WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY LOCATED WITHIN THE VALENCIA HEIGHT WATER DISTRICT PROPERTY AT 35 40 [00:55:01] EAST CAMERON AVENUE, ADJACENT TO HERITAGE PARK. WELL, THE CITY CLERK VERIFY PROPER LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN PROPER LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN MAYOR PRO TEM. OKAY. AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE APPEAL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION TO DENY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 21 DASH ZERO THREE. THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL FIRST BE THE PRESENTATION OF THE STAFF REPORT. THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPEAL, THEN THOSE OPPOSED FINALLY, THE APPELLANT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE REBUTTAL TO ANY TESTIMONY RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION, MR. KARMANI, WHO WILL GIVE THE PRESENTATION. OUR PLANNING MANAGER, JOANNE BURNS WILL PRESENT THIS STAFF REPORT. OKAY, GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE MAYOR PRO TEM, DHEAS AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THE SUBJECT SITE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AND THE E AND THE PROJECTOR. IT IS THE VALENTI HEIGHTS, A WATER COMPANY PROPERTY. IT IS SURROUNDED BY R ONE ZONE PROPERTIES, UM, WITH RESIDENTIAL, WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH IN THE HERITAGE PARK TO THE WEST. THE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE, ARE MORE THAN 100 FEET AWAY FROM THE ANTENNA SUPPORTING STRUCTURE. SPECIFICALLY. THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON A PRIVATE STREET, UM, IN AN INCORPORATED LA COUNTY AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY. AND TO BE EXACT, IT IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 176 SQUARE FEET AWAY FROM, FROM THE ANTENNA STRUCTURE. THE PROPOSED WIRELESS FACILITY IS, IS LOCATED, UM, ABOUT 211 FEET AWAY FROM, FROM THE NEAREST HOMES, THE NEAREST HOUSE ITSELF ON THE EAST SIDE. AND IT IS LOCATED MORE THAN 100 FEET AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES TO THE SOUTH. THESE ARE ON THE PROJECTOR ARE THE TWO FINDINGS FINDING A AND FINDING F OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS UNABLE TO MAKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED THE APPLICATION BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE THEM SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. UM, THAT, THAT THE SITE, UM, WOULD BE THE BEST SITE FOR THE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITY. AND THEY, THEY DENIED. THEY WERE, WAS NOT, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT FINDING F BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THE PROPOSED MOTTO EUCALYPTUS TREE DESIGN WILL NOT ACCOMPLISH THE REASONABLE SELFING SINCE IT IS TALLER THAN OTHER TREES IN THE VICINITY. HERE ARE THE PROPOSED PLANS. THE, THE FACILITY WOULD BE LOCATED TO THE WEST OF THE WATER WATER TOWER, UM, THE WATER TOWERS, AND IT IS A 817 SQUARE FOOT LEASE AREA. THE PROPOSED MODEL LOOK, LOOK, YOUR MANA EUCALYPTUS TREE IS 60 FEET IN HEIGHT. AND THE PROPOSED GROUND EQUIPMENT WILL BE SCREENED BY CMU BLOCK WALL. THAT IS EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT. THERE IS ALSO AN ABOVE GROUND GENERATOR NEXT TO THE EQUIPMENT, UM, CABINET THE WALDEN EQUIPMENT CABINET AREA, THE APPLICANTS PREPARED PHOTO SIMULATIONS AND A BALLOON TEST IN SEV, UM, FROM SEVEN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS SURROUNDING THE SITE. THE LOCATIONS ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE AERIAL MAP ON THE PROJECTOR. THE TOP LOCATION IS, WAS TAKEN FROM THE HIKING TRAIL AT HERITAGE PARK. THIS WAS LOCATION, A IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP AND THE BOTTOM PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN FROM, FROM ALONG [01:00:01] CAMERON AVENUE. AND THIS IS BE IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP. SO THE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE C AT THE TOP AND DE IDENTIFIED IN THE MAP. UM, THE TOP IS WHAT'S TAKEN FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AT THE EAST OF THE SITE AND THE BOTTOM PHOTOGRAPHS ARE TAKEN AT THE TRAIL ENTRANCE ON CAMERA. NOW AVENUE, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. THE ARROWS THAT ARE POINTING, UH, IS THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER WHERE THE END IS JUST WANT IT TO VARIOUS. OKAY. SO THIS IS, LET'S SEE, THAT'S ALL PHOTOGRAPH IS AT THE TRAIL ENTRANCE AT HILLSIDE DRIVE AND THE BOTTOM IS ALONG THE TRAIL FACING NORTH EAST OF THE SITE. AND THEN THIS ONE IS THE BALLOON TEST FOR ALONG THE TRAIL FACING NORTHWEST OF THE SITE. AND THIS IS G I BELIEVE, I'M SORRY. JOANNE IS THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE RENDERING FOR THE POST. THE LEFT SIDE IS THE BALLOON TEST. SO IN ORDER THE WHITE SIDE, THE RIGHT SIDE. YES. UM, I'LL GET THERE IN ORDER TO, UM, DO THE RENDERING. THEY DID A BALLOON TEST SO THAT THEY CAN IDENTIFY THE HEIGHT OF THE MONITOR. YOU UNDERSTAND SKIN FOR WHITE SIZE LEAD, WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE, LIKE THIS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS IS THE JUSTIFICATION PLOT LT JUSTIFICATION PLOTS THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED TO THE LEFT IS BEFORE THE SITE AND TO THE RIGHT IS AF UM, IF AFTER THE SITE, IF THE SITE IS CONSTRUCTED AND APPROVED WITH THIS, THE PLANNING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, UPHOLDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION AND DENYING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IF THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND I PREFER TO LISTEN TO APPLICANT AND THEN THE PUBLIC OKAY. COMMON. AND THEN I WILL ASK A QUESTION, SAVE TIME. WOW. OUT AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE APPEAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION TO DENY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THERE WERE FIRST IF I MAY, WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS. OH, OKAY. AT THIS TIME THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. OKAY. YES, JESSICA. UM, I WANTED TO START OFF BY THANKING YOU GUYS FOR HEARING OUR APPEAL TODAY, UH, AND ALSO THANKING STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR WORKING WITH US FOR THE LAST ALMOST YEAR, UM, ON THIS PROJECT AND, UH, AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL PREVIOUSLY, WE'VE WORKED HARD ON THIS SITE TO CHOOSE A LOCATION THAT WE CAN STEALTH THE EQUIPMENT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. WE'VE WORKED ON A DESIGN, UM, THAT MITIGATES THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. YOU'VE GOT A MANO EUCALYPTUS TREE, UM, ADDITIONAL, UH, FOLIAGE LEAVES. UM, AND WE'VE ALSO AGREED TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL LIVE TREES NEAR THE LOCATION TO HELP KIND OF BLEND IT ALL IN TOGETHER. UM, AND I WANTED TO JUST POINT OUT, I KNOW THAT, UM, I WAS AT THE PREVIOUS HEARING, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES RAISED WAS THE FACT THAT, UH, THERE DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE A NEED RE T AND T TO HAVE THIS SITE. UM, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY FOR THE NETWORK. SO I, I WANTED TO JUST UPFRONT, LET YOU GUYS KNOW, AND YOU HAVE SOME SLIDES, YOU SAW THE PROPAGATION MAPS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, RIGHT? THIS SITE IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR OUR NETWORK AND, UH, TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ROBUST SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS, YOUR CONSTITUENTS. UM, IT ALSO WILL HELP SUPPORT OUR, UH, FIRSTNET, UM, BAND 14, UH, [01:05:01] UH, AVERAGE AS WELL. AND THAT'S A FIRST RESPONDER NETWORK. SO I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA DOESN'T UTILIZE THAT, BUT SURROUNDING CITIES DO, AND THEY DO COME IN AND OUT OF WEST COVINA. SO I WANT YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THAT, UM, AND I'VE GOT JESSICA HERE. JESSICA'S, UH, UH, ONE OF OUR VENDORS AND SHE'S WORKED WITH STAFF AND HAS A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. UM, SO I DID PUT OUT AND PUT A PRESENTATION TOGETHER FOR YOU GUYS. I'LL JUST START AT THAT WORKING. OKAY, PERFECT. SO I'M THE FIRST FLIP SIDE THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THE SITE PURPOSE. UM, THEY, AS DAN MENTIONED, THE SITE IS GOING TO PROVIDE A FIRSTNET AND WHAT THAT IS, IT'S A BAND 14 FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS. UM, JUST SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FREQUENCY FOR THE FACILITY. UM, THE SITE IS ALSO GOING TO PROVIDE A LARGE COVERAGE GAP, UM, FOR THE AREA. SORRY, I CAN'T SEE IT. UH, AND THEN, UM, AS MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE WIRELESS FACILITY IS GOING TO PROVIDE, UM, ADDITIONAL COVERAGE. AND THIS IS DUE TO THE RESIDENTS IN NEARBY WORKING FROM HOME NOW WITH COVID, UM, AND THE INCREASING NUMBER OF, UH, CLIENTS USING THEIR CELL PHONES VERSUS LANDLINE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO PROVIDE. UM, THIS IS A SITE ELEVATION. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT. THIS, UM, SHOWS THAT 18 T IS PROVIDING A THREE BRANCH MONITOR EUCALYPTUS TREE. UM, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED A SINGLE BRANCH, UM, BROADLEAF. HOWEVER, THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAD REQUESTED THAT WE, UM, COMPLETE A THREE BRANCH MANA EUCALYPTUS TREE, AS WELL AS PLANT ADDITIONAL MONEY TO GO TO HISTORIES. SO THAT WAY THE AREA WOULD BLEND IN THIS SITE WOULD BLEND IN. THEY ALSO REQUESTED THAT WE PROVIDE A CMU ON CLOSURE TO HELP STEALTHY CABINETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE GROUND FROM PREVIOUS PLANNING COMMISSIONS. UM, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT GRAFFITIING. WE DID TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION AND WE ARE INSTALLING CLIMBING VINES AND THE CMU WALL, AND THEN THIS WILL HELP DETER THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN THESE ARE, UH, PHOTO SIMULATIONS, UM, THAT THE PLANNING, UH, THE PLANNER HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THESE ARE JUST, UM, SHOWING THE PROPOSED WIRELESS FACILITY AND HOW IT BLENDS INTO THE SURROUNDING AREA. THIS IS TAKEN OFF CAMERON AVENUE, CAMERON AVENUE, WHICH IS THEIR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ACROSS, UM, THE WATER DISTRICT'S PROPERTY. I'M ABLE TO GO THE NEXT SLIDE. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. UM, THIS VIEW IS FROM THE HILLSIDE DRIVE HIKING TRAIL. UM, AS YOU COULD SEE, WE DID THE BALLOON TEST AND THE FACILITY SEEMS TO BLEND IN WITH THE SURROUNDING TREES. YOU DO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THIS VIEW WAS TAKEN, UM, NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE, UM, NEAR THE PARK, UH, LOOKING UP AT THE FACILITY. UM, AND THEN YOU COULD SEE OUR PROPOSED WIRELESS FACILITY, UH, ALSO MENTIONED THAT'S NOT IN THESE PHOTOS. SIMULATIONS IS THE MO THE THREE MANO, UH, THE THREE EUCALYPTUS TREES THAT WE'RE PLANTING. THEY DON'T SHOW THEM FULL GROWN AS THE TREE WOULD BLEND IN MORE SINCE THE MONACO OR THE PROPOSED EUCALYPTUS TREES WILL MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THE WIRELESS FACILITY AS WELL. THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, AND THIS, THIS IS JUST, UM, THIS IS THE CLOSEST VIEW TO THE, UM, EUCALYPTUS TREE. THIS IS, UH, JUST ABOVE THE WATER DISTRICT FROM THE HIKING TRAIL. AND THEN ALSO THE EAGLE OF DISTRICT BEING PLANTED WILL MATCH THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED WIRELESS FACILITY ONCE THEY'RE FULLY GROWN, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT LANE. AND THEN THESE ARE OUR PROPAGATION MAPS. SO THE, UM, THE SLIDE ON THE LEFT IS SHOWING THE WIRELESS FACILITY, UM, THEN THE COVERAGE PRIOR TO THE INSTALLATION OF THIS NEW FACILITY, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE RED.IN THE CENTER. UM, THAT'S SHOWING THAT THERE IS A LACK OF INDOOR COVERAGE. THE GREEN IS INDOOR COVERAGE, UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, ONCE IT FACILITY INSTALLED, UM, THERE IS A, A LARGE INCREASE IN COVERAGE OF INDOOR FACILITY, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR 18 T AGAIN, WITH RESIDENTS WORKING FROM HOME LANDLINES, NO LONGER A PRIORITY, UM, AND PEOPLE USING WIRELESS, THE RESIDENTS AND, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS USING THEIR WIRELESS WIRELESS PHONES CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, THIS IS JUST, UM, A LEGEND. WE USED IT ON THE LAST ONE JUST TO KIND OF HELP READ THE PROPAGATION MAPS. AGAIN, THE GREEN SHOWS THE INDOOR COVERAGE, THE YELLOW SHOWS THE IN VEHICLE COVERAGE AND THE PURPLE SHOWS THE OUTDOOR COVERAGE. [01:10:01] UM, THOSE COVERAGE MAPS DO SHOW, UH, THE, THE SEVERE LACK OF, UM, INDOOR COVERAGE. AND THEN ALSO, THERE'S JUST A LITTLE NOTE, UM, A LITTLE FACT FROM THE CDC THAT JUST SHOWS THE NUMBER OF, UM, THE PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS USING OR WIRELESS FACILITIES. AS YOU CAN SEE, 81% OF ADULTS AND 98% OF, UH, TEENAGERS UNDER THE AGE OF 18, UH, RELY ON THEIR WIRELESS WIRELESS DEVICES. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, I DID PUT TOGETHER ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS. SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT WE DID TRY TO PUT THE SITE SOMEWHERE ELSE. UM, JUST UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THE SITE THAT WORKED BEST FOR 18 T WAS THE WATER COMPANY PROPERTY. SO THIS, UH, LOCATION IS THE OPEN SPACE LOCATED OFF OF GRAND AVENUE. UM, THE SPACE IS OWNED BY A DEVELOPER AND HE PLANS TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE. SO HE, UM, DID NOT WANT TO LEASE SPACE TO AT AND T TO BUILD A CELL SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAP BELOW SHOWS THE BLUE STARS WHERE OUR PROPOSED FACILITY WILL BE, AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THAT, UM, OPEN SPACE THAT WE TRIED, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT LANE, UH, THESE ARE THE HOOP, UH, THE HOOPER DRIVE, WATER TANKS. THESE ARE OWNED BY THE CITY PROPERTY. UM, WE DID, UH, TRY AND GO HERE AS WELL. WHEN SPEAKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, THEY WERE NOT, UH, CONFIDENT THAT WE WOULD MEET OUR A HUNDRED FOOT RESIDENTIAL SETBACK. ALSO. UM, I DID SPEAK WITH NICOLE, UH, THAT SHE WAS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME, UH, IN REGARDS TO LEASING PROPERTY, CITY PROPERTY. UM, AND SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT WE NEEDED TO COME UP WITH A SUBSTANTIAL UPFRONT PAYMENT, AS WELL AS AN AGREE ON LEASE LEASING BEFORE IT WAS EVEN BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO GOING BACK AND FORTH ON TERMS, WE JUST COULDN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT AS WELL AS WE'RE WILLING TO MEET THE A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK AT THIS PROPERTY. SO, UM, WE WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED AT OTHER PLACES AND THIS IS HERITAGE PARK. THIS PARK IS NEXT TO THE WATER COMPANY'S PROPERTY. UM, AGAIN, WE SPOKE WITH, UH, NICOLE ABOUT THIS. UH, WE COULDN'T COME TO A LEASING TERMS. HOWEVER, WHEN SPEAKING WITH, UM, OUR RF ENGINEER, HE DID POINT OUT THAT THE PARK DOES SIT, UM, ABOUT 70 FEET LOWER IN ELEVATION TO WHERE OUR PROPOSED FACILITY WOULD BE. SO, UM, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, THE CELL SITE ONE KIND OF SIT IN A BOWL AND WE WOULD LOSE 'EM ABOUT 70 FEET IN COVERAGE, WHICH WOULD SEVERELY, UM, HURT THE COVERAGE GAP THAT WE WERE TRYING TO FILL. AND SO, AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST ANOTHER, UM, PROPERTY THAT WE HAD TO RULE OUT. AND THEN LASTLY, THIS SLIDE IS ACTUALLY CURRENT EUCALYPTUS TREES, UH, PER FO EUCALYPTUS TREES THAT ARE INSTALLED IN THE CITY OF IRVINE. AS YOU COULD SEE, YOU CAN'T SEE THE ANTENNAS WITHIN THE FACILITY, THEY'RE VERY FULL AND LUSCIOUS. UM, IN THE FACILITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD AT THE CITY, UM, WATER COMPANY WOULD BE LOOKING SIMILAR TO THESE. AND THEN THAT IS THE LAST SIDE. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. GO AHEAD. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. WAS THIS SURVEY TAKEN, I MEAN, BEING IN COVID FOR OVER A YEAR AND PEOPLE WORKING AT HOME WAS A SURVEY TAKEN WITH RESIDENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT COVERAGE ISSUE. AND THEN I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT, OH, THE POLICE AND FIRE WITH THAT, I HAVEN'T HEARD OUR LEASE AND FIRE MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT SERVICES. SO I WANTED TO KNOW THOSE TWO THINGS. SURE. SO, UH, THE PROPAGATION MAPS, UM, ARE DONE. IT'S A, IT'S A ROBUST, UM, INDUSTRY MAP THAT ALL CARRIES USE ACROSS THE BOARD TO DETERMINE SERVICE. UM, SO IT'S NOT THAT MAPPED TAKES INTO ACCOUNTABILITY, ALL THEIR CUSTOMERS THAT THEY HAVE, AND THEN THAT'S ALL THOSE MAPS ARE CREATED. SO THAT MAP SHOWED THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF INDOOR COVERAGE. UM, AND SO, AND THAT'S WHAT AT AND T NEEDS TO ACHIEVE. SO THEN THAT'S WHERE THEY PINPOINT WHERE WE NEED TO INSTALL A NEW WIRELESS FACILITY, BUT EVEN WITH A LACK OF INDOOR COVERAGE, WAS IT A BIG ISSUE, A COMPLAINT OF RESIDENTS MENTIONING ANYTHING AND, UM, B WELL, THE LACK OF INDOOR COVERAGE, THIS IS PERTAINS TO ALL COMPANIES, NOT JUST AT AND T RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTIONS. IT'S ABOUT OKAY. A FEET. OKAY. ABOUT GROUND. I, MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN NOW ALL THE CELL TOWER REQUIRES ON THE GROUND. SO WHY YOU ARE A FEE WITH BLOCK WALL POSSIBLE POWER WIRE ON THE TOP. AND YOU'RE GOING TO CHECK WITH PT EQUALING TO LOOK GHETTO. SO WHILE YOU'RE DESIGNED LIKE THIS. SURE. SO, UM, WHEN WE, UH, WE DID LOOK INTO THE VAULT OPTION FOR OUR GROUND EQUIPMENT AND OUR ARCHITECT ENGINEER, UH, STATED THAT IT WASN'T POSSIBLE DUE TO UNDERGROUNDING EQUIPMENT AT THE WATER COMPANY. THEY DID PROVIDE A LETTER, A STAMPED LETTER AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION AS TO REASONS WHY, BUT, UM, PART OF THE REASON WAS ALSO THE WATER TANKS [01:15:01] HAVE A RETAINING WALL. SO WHEN PUTTING THE EQUIPMENT UNDERGROUND, IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH PRESSURE FOR THE EQUIPMENT UNDERGROUND. AND THEN AS WELL AS THE LARGE VEHICLES THAT ARE DRIVING ON THE PROPERTY, IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH PRESSURE. WE DO HAVE OUR ARCHITECT ENGINEER HERE. IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS AGAIN, OKAY. TO PLUMBING IS HOW YOU MATCHING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE NATURES OF THE PARK. OKAY. THE VIEW, A STATICALLY ACCEPTABLE FOR THE SCENERY BY NOW, YOU PUT UP A WALL OF A FEED OF THE WORLD. OKAY. ABOUT GROUND. OKAY. I THINK THAT WILL BE A MAJOR ISSUE. OKAY. FOR ME TO LET PEOPLE TO SEE. OKAY. LET THING IS GOING TO BE DEAD IN TWO PEOPLE ENJOYING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. I THINK THIS IS A OKAY. BECAUSE IN OTHER PARK, OKAY. WE REQUEST IN 16. OKAY. AND CELL TOWER. OKAY. THEY WANT TO DO SOME EXPANSION. WE WANT THEM TO GO ON THE GROUND. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S IS WHAT I THINK. OKAY. THE REQUIREMENT FOR ALL THE CT. OKAY. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT MATCHING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY DON'T HAVE SOME KIND OF A FOOT OF A WARD. OKAY. WITH BOW WIRE ON THE TOP. OKAY. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO DESTROY THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK. OKAY. AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, UH, THIS IS 60 FEET TALL. YES. BUT HOW ABOUT CO-LOCATION, YOU'RE GOING TO GROW UP, RIGHT? SO YOU, YOU CANNOT STOP THEM TO GROW FOR SOME OTHER COMPANY, WANT TO PUT ON TOP SO YOU CAN MAKE MORE MONEY. SO IT'S GOING TO GROW HIGHER AND HIGHER. SO THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE FOR THE FUTURE. SURE. SO LET ME ANSWER THE BLOCK WALL. SO I WILL LIKE TO POINT OUT THE ENCLOSURE IS WITHIN A GATED WATER COMPANY. THE ENCLOSURE IS, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTO SIMULATIONS, THE ENCLOSURE IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE PARK NOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY NEARBY. WE ARE PUTTING UP, UM, CLIMBING VINES AROUND THE WIRELESS, AROUND THE CMU BLOCK WALL AS WELL, TO HELP HIDE ANY, ANY DESIGN OF THE CMU BLOCK WALL, AS WELL AS TO HELP ANY GRAFFITI. THE WATER COMPANY DID MENTION THAT IN THE YEARS THAT HE'S, HE'S WORKED AT THAT COMPANY, HE HAS NOT HAD GRAFFITI AND ISSUES. HE HAS NOT HAD ISSUES WITH PEOPLE BREAKING INTO HIS PROPERTIES. SO IT'S JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CME WALL WILL BE HIDDEN BECAUSE WE'RE WITHIN A GATED COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT VISUAL FROM THE NEIGHBORS. AS FAR AS THE 60 FOOT HEIGHT, THE 60 FOOT HEIGHT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF WEST. COVINA IS MUNICIPAL CODE. UM, THERE IS ROOM FOR THE EXISTING OR A NEW CARRIER TO COME BELOW 18 T. UM, AND CO-LOCATED ON THAT PROPERTY AS FAR AS EXTENDING THE TREE. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY FUTURE PLANS TO DO THAT. AND WE ARE GOING TO 60 FEET, WHICH IS WITHIN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA IS MUNICIPAL CODE, JUST ASKING IN LAB POSSIBLE. HE WILL GROW TALL. OKAY. BECAUSE CO-LOCATION, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FEDERAL LAW THAT WE CANNOT SAY NO FOR THEM TO GROW HIGHER. OKAY. BECAUSE OF CO-LOCATION, IF ANY OTHER LOUISA WANTS TO COME IN, THEY WANT THE CO-LOCATION AND WHEN TO FIND YOU SO THEY CAN GO HIGHER. AM I RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S PER THE FEDERAL CODE, SO I DON'T CORRECT. YEAH. AND ANOTHER THING. OKAY. GO BACK TO THE BLOCK WALK. OKAY. YOU SAY, YOU CANNOT GO ON THE GROUND BECAUSE THE WATER TANKS OVER THERE. BUT SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OKAY. WEST COVINA, UH, OKAY. CALLED AND THAT'S REGARDING CELL TOWERS SHOULD CONDUCT CLOSE TO UTILITY AND THEY SAID WATER IS A UTILITY. OKAY. AND THAT IF WE COULD SO CLOSE WHILE THE KOREA ISSUE WITH A WATER TANK AND CELL TOWER, AND SINCE THEY SAY THE CELL TOWER CAN NOT GO UNDERGROUND, IT, WHETHER IT BE A SAFETY ISSUE. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN MAY OF 20, 20, I SIGNED, OKAY. THE BILL THAT WE CANNOT OKAY. HAVE A CELL TOWER CLOSE TO THE UTILITY TO WATCH IT. IT'S A UTILITY. RIGHT. THAT SECTION. WELL, THAT SECTION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS, UM, THE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT. OF WAY. THAT'S A DIFFERENT CODE. I REMEMBERED, I SIGNED AS A, INCLUDING UTILITY. YES. THAT'S A DIFFERENT CODE SECTION, BUT THIS UTILITY LED TO BUY WATCHES, UTD, DUI. UM, THAT SECTION WATER IS A UTILITY. HOWEVER, MAYBE THE ATTORNEY, IF YOU CAN ADD SOMETHING, BE AN ATTORNEY CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION. YEAH. THAT, THAT, THAT REFERS TO TELL TOWERS AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. THIS IS ON PRIVATE. I UNDERSTAND. BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY SAY YOU UTILITY WHAT? THE COMPANY IS A PRIVATE COMPANY, BUT A UTILITY COMPANY. AM I RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. PGN. OKAY. AND HE IS A PRIVATE COMPANIES. UH, IT'S A POWER COMPANY BY STEEL UTILITY COMPANY, CORRECT? RIGHT. SO IN A WAY IN THIS TOKEN. OKAY. BUT OKAY. WHAT THE COMPANY IS A UTILITY AND EVEN THIS IS A PRIVATE COMPANY, [01:20:01] BUT STILL IT'S UTD THE COMPANY. OKAY. I REMEMBER I SIGNED THAT. WE SAY, DO YOU, CELL TOWER CANNOT GET CLOSE TO UTILITY. AND SO THAT CODE SECTION APPLIES TO CELL TOWERS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THIS IS NOT A SET OF TWO TIMES, THREE TIMES ALREADY. I'M TALKING ABOUT UTILITY THAT, SO THERE'S TWO SEPARATE CODE SECTIONS FOR THAT. AND WE'LL LOOK, WE'LL READ IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY VERSUS NON. AND IF IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN WITH BEING NEAR ANY UTILITIES IN GENERAL. YEAH. THIS IS A GREAT SAFETY REASON. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, OKAY. WE WILL ALLOW BEHIND A TOWEL BY THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE SAFETY. YOU HAVE CELL TOWER NEXT TO WATER TANK SAFE. AND BESIDE LED TO ASIDE, TAKE WISE, OKAY. WHY CANNOT GO ON THE GROUND? MAYBE YOU SAY, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS NEXT TO THEM, I REMEMBER WHEN WE REQUESTED AN UNDERGROUND WITH A PREVIOUS CELL TOWER, UM, AT THE END, THE TRUTH CAME OUT BECAUSE IT COSTS MORE, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR CONCERN. OUR NOT OUR ISSUE. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO WE'RE THE CODE WE'RE JUST REQUIRED TO PUT A CME WALL UP, RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE ALL WITHIN THE WIRELESS CODE FOR THE CITY OF WEST COVINA. HOWEVER, WE DID PROVIDE A LETTER FROM THE ARCHITECT STAMPED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS TO WHY THE FACILITY WOULD NOT WORK UNDERGROUND. BUT AGAIN, WE ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF WEST GALINA'S MUNICIPAL CODE, INCLUDING THE CMU WALL. WE ORIGINALLY DID NOT PROPOSE A CMU WALL. AND THE CITY PLANNER SAID PER YOUR GUYS'S CODE, WE NEED TO INSTALL AN EIGHT FOOT CMU, ALL ENCLOSURE. DO YOU HAVE THE RENDERING OF THAT? UM, I SAW THE EIGHT FOOT. OKAY. BLOCK WALL. IT'S LIKE A, IN THE PLANS NEXT YEAR TO OLD. OKAY. THEY WILL HAVE APRIL. WE WANT THEM TO GO UNDERGROUND. IT'S CURRENTLY ON THE SCREEN AS WELL. LET'S CITY, RIGHT? THE ANTHEM BELOW. THAT SHOULD BE ON THE GROUND. YEAH. IT'S A GENERATOR ANYWAY. OKAY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? WELL, YOU MENTIONED PUTTING IN LIVE TREES. ARE THEY AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO BE THAT HIGH TO MEET THAT? OR IS IT GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT MANY YEARS FOR IT ABLE TO REACH THAT HEIGHT? WE ARE INSTALLING A THREE EUCALYPTUS TREES OR THE PLANNING, UM, RECOMMENDATION. THEY WILL TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS TO INSTALL, UM, TO GROW. HOWEVER, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL BE THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE PROPOSED WIRELESS FACILITY. BUT BY THEN THERE ARE TREES THERE AS WELL THAT ARE HELP, UM, HELPING SHIELD THE EXISTING WIRELESS FACILITY AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WAITING FOR AN ANSWER. THINK YOU CAN CONTINUE ON, WE'LL PULL IT UP AND THEN WE'LL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S CONTINUE. UH, IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPEAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. WE HAVE 10 SPEAKERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THEIR OPPOSITION. OKAY. SO GO AHEAD, MARE. OKAY. SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER, PLEASE PROVIDE THE SPEAKER CARDS TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MAN CITY CLERK, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THIS TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE APPEAL. UM, IF, UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE APPEAL? OUR FIRST, THE SPEAKER, UH, THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE APPEAL OF THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF, UM, THEY ARE OPPOSED TO THE CELL TOWER. OKAY. THE ONLY SPEAKER CARDS I HAVE AT THIS TIME. OKAY. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MIKE PINEL FOLLOWED BY PAULINE MAXWELL, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN AND SUSAN OWL. THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS MY THIRD MEETING ABOUT THIS. I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN THEY, YOU TURNED DOWN THE SOUTH TOWER AT SOUTH HILLS GOLF COURSE, SAME CELL TOWER. I WAS JUST HERE TO LISTEN TO WHAT WAS BEING SAID ABOUT IT. AND FOR WHAT REASON YOU GUYS TURNED IT DOWN THERE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THERE WASN'T ANYBODY HERE SPEAKING FOR THE CELL TOWER, ONLY PEOPLE COMPLAINING AGAINST HAVING IT PUT IN. UH, I LIVE ON HILLSIDE AND THIS WILL BE RIGHT STUCK UP IN THE MIDDLE OF MY VIEW AND EVERYBODY ON EAST HILLSIDE DRIVE AND HOLIDAY, I THINK, UM, THE TREE LINE AND THE PARK IS HERE. THIS TOWER IS GOING TO STICK UP 20 FEET [01:25:01] ABOVE THE TREE LINE AS COULD IT BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MOUNTAINS AND THE CITY LIGHTS AND MY BEAUTIFUL VIEW AND EVERYBODY ELSE ON HILLSIDE, ALL THOSE PICTURES THEY SHOWED YOU WERE FROM THE PARK LOOKING UP AND IT WON'T AFFECT THEM. BUT THE PEOPLE ABOVE LOOKING DOWN, THIS IS GOING TO STICK RIGHT UP IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO PLANT MORE TREES, IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN WORSE. AND THE OTHER THING THAT YOU, UH, TONY PICKED UP ON IS THAT I WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, WHATEVER IT WAS THAT TURNED THEM DOWN, THEY SAID THERE THAT THEY CAN PUT AN EXTRA 20 FEET ON THIS TOWER. SO INSTEAD OF IT BEING 60 FEET, IT CAN GO 80 FEET. AND ONCE YOU APPROVE IT, YOU CAN NOT STOP THEM. THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO AN EXTRA 20 FEET ON TOP OF THAT. AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE REASONS THEY TURNED IT DOWN, WHICH WASN'T MENTIONED HERE WAS THERE WAS NOT ANYBODY THERE IN FAVOR OF IT. EVERYBODY THERE IS AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF THE VIEW. AND SOME PEOPLE WERE AGAINST IT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT OF THE RADIATION FROM THE TOWER. BUT I'M ONLY INTERESTED IN THE VIEW. AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON HILLSIDE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO THAN COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND COMPLAIN. SO THEY JUST THROW THE NOTICE THAT THEY GOT IN THE MAIL AWAY. BUT WHEN THEY WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND THERE'S A 60 FOOT OR 80 FOOT TOWER IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR VIEW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY. SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS PAULINE MAXWELL FOLLOWED BY SUSANNA OO, FOLLOWED BY. I CANNOT PRONOUNCE THE HEAT. V A H I D. HELENE. YES. OKAY. I'M A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS. I'M NOT USED TO COME HERE ANYWAY. UM, I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST IT. MY HOUSE IS 200 FEET FROM WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THIS. SO FIRST OF ALL, IT WOULD REALLY BE AN EYESORE. YOU LOOK OUT THE FRONT DOOR AND SAY, THERE'S SOMETHING STICKING OUT IS TOTALLY RUINED THE WHOLE BEAUTY OF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A NATURAL THING THAT BELONGED TO NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S SOMETHING LIKE, FEEL FOREIGN. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THAT'S A VACANT LOT, RIGHT THERE FOR SALE. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THEY, SOMEBODY SEE SOMETHING STICKING UP LIKE THAT, YOU THINK THEY WILL BUY SOMETHING NOBODY WOULD BUY WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING STICKING OUT LIKE THAT IN RIGHT CLOSE TO WITHIN 500 FEET. AND THEN I DID THE WALL. NO ONE, THEY ACTUALLY WILL NOT ALLOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO PUT IN RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO, WHEREAS COVINA CITIZENS, I MEAN, RESIDENTS, SHOULD WE GET THE SAME OR MAYBE EVEN BETTER? UH, WE ARE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. SO WE ALLOW THEM TO DO WHATEVER, PUT WHATEVER THEY WANT, WHEREVER THEY WANT. I HOPE NOT. SO IT JUST, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO, I'M STILL NERVOUS TO SAY IT, BUT JUST SAY, THIS IS, I JUST COOKED THAT YOU GUYS WILL STAND FROM OUR PORN TO SEE HOW UGLY THIS THING WILL BE VALUE. I WANT NEIGHBORHOOD. NO, THAT'S A LOT OF MILLION DOLLARS HOME THERE, BUT ONCE THE SCENE UP, I DON'T EVEN KNOW YET PEOPLE WOULD BUY IT FOR 500. SO, SO I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL PUT CONSIDERATION ON TOP OF IT. ONE OF THE REASON THEY SAID THEY WANT TO PUT IT UP BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DROP CALLS, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MAKING PHONE CALLS AND SHARING. I LEAD THEM BIBLE STUDY ONLINE, YOU KNOW, WITH MY CELL PHONE. NO PROBLEM. SO I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A ISSUE AT ALL. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. SUSANNA FOLLOWED BY THE HEAT. V A H I D FOLLOWED BY ARTURO. I SEE THE CONSOLE. UM, MY NAME IS SUSANNA. I, MY HUSBAND AND ME BOUGHT THE HOUSE FIVE YEARS AGO. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HOUSE, WE LOOK AT THE DEAL. WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE WITHOUT LOOK INSIDE THE HOUSE. WE WENT TO LOOK AT A HOUSE. WE LOOK AT THE VIEW. WE DECIDED WE BOUGHT A HOUSE WITHOUT LOOKING INSIDE. WELL, THOSE PICTURE, [01:30:01] THOSE LADY SHOW YOU GUYS ON. PURPOSELY EXPLORE MY HOUSE. WIELD. MY HOUSE WAS THE GREEN SONG RIGHT NEXT TO THE TOWER. THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE PICTURE. MY HOUSE IS A TWO STORY BUILDING DOWNSTAIRS, STORAGE UPSTAIRS IS DO YOU THINK QUARTER? AND THEN AT THAT AREA, IT'S THE ONE TOWER IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUT AT EVERY SINGLE WINDOW, WE WILL SEE A HUGE BOOM POWER STICKING IN OUR EYE LEVEL, ABOVE I, AT THE BEGINNING, BEFORE I SEE THE PRESENTATIONS, I THOUGHT IT WILL BE JUST LIKE IT WAS STICK PEACE IN MY HEART. BUT AFTER I SEE THE PRESENTATION, IT'S LIKE A BREAK WALL BLOCKING ALL MY WINDOW. SO WHY DID WE BUY THE HOUSE FIVE YEARS AGO? PING HOP PRICE. NOW I HAVE A BRICK WALL VIEW. OKAY, PLEASE. HI SOLA. I HOPE YOU GUYS CONSIDER THE PRESENTATIONS. IT'S MISREPRESENTING THE VIEW. ALL THOSE BUILDINGS THEY TAKE HIM WAS AT LOWER LEVEL OR HIGHER LEVEL, BUT THEY NEVER COME. ONCE YOU BUY PROPERTY, YOU TAKE A PICTURE FROM MY VIEW. I COULD JUST GO DOWN SOMEWHERE, BUY A HOUSE. WHY DID I PAY THAT MUCH MONEY TO BUY A FUTURE GREAT WALL AND A WOODS STICKS TO MR. HOT, PLEASE CONSIDER I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, HE'D BE A H I D FOLLOWED BY ARTURO FOLLOWED BY, I THINK IT'S BOTH B O E CIAO. HELLO. UM, SO YES, MY NAME IS VAHID. I BOUGHT A HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIX MONTHS AGO, SO I'M TOTALLY NEW TO THE CITY. AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AGAIN, THE OTHER TWO NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T KNOW THEM. I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE JUST BECAUSE OF THE VIEW WHO SAW THE PICTURES OF THE PARK. WE SAW THEIR VIEW ON THEM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS TOWER, THAT'S GOING TO BE DEAD. IT'S EXACTLY RUINING THE VIEW AND EXACTLY RUINING THE HAPPINESS OF THE FAMILIES THAT ARE LIVING THERE AND THE RUINING, THE REASON THAT PEOPLE MOVE IN THAT AREA. SO I ASKED YOU GUYS AGAIN, WHO THE CLIENT IS TO CLOSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARTURO FOLLOWED BY BOE, B O E L, FOLLOWED BY READ PUBLIC. HELLO. MY NAME IS AND I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF THE NEARBY SITE THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHAT MR. WU SAID THAT IT WOULDN'T LOOK GHETTO. THOSE IMAGES DEFINITELY AREN'T CURRENT. UM, SO LIKE I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THIS, THIS TOWER THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD, UM, FROM MY FRONT YARD. SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS LIKE JUST WHAT THEY'RE ECHOING AND THEN EVEN THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE CLOSER TO THE TOWEL TOWER. LIKE THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE TOWER BEING THERE AND THEN, UM, FOR MYSELF, I'M TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT AGREEANCE WITH THEM. AND, UM, JUST TO LIKE A LOT OF THINGS WEREN'T MAKING SENSE, I GUESS, LIKE THOSE IMAGES ARE PHOTOSHOP BECAUSE LIKE THEY LOOK NOTHING. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THOSE ARE IMAGES THAT LIKE THEY PUT ON REDFIN. UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU SEE IT IN PERSON AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, SHOOT, LIKE EVEN THE, THE CELL TOWERS THAT WE SEE, IT JUST DOESN'T FIT WITH HERITAGE PARK. UM, IT'S NOT EVEN, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE GREENEST ITEM THERE. UM, SO YEAH, I'M JUST NOT AGAINST IT. AND YOU GET THE QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE ASKED AT AND T UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY, REALLY GREAT. AND EVEN IF IT WAS MY OWN PROVIDER, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH ISSUES WITH SIGNAL. AND, UM, IT'S JUST LIKE, IF EVERYBODY SAID, IF EVERY CITY WANTED THIS, BECAUSE IT WAS THAT BENEFICIAL, LIKE WE WOULD BE SEEING SO MANY CELL TOWERS AND, UM, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU, BO B O YOU CHOW READ FOLLOWED BY YOU, YOU CHIN. [01:35:01] HI. HOW ARE YOU DOING? UM, BO I'M A, ALSO A NEIGHBOR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT, UH, IF THE, IF AT AND T CAN BUILD A TOWER IN THE PRIVATE LAND AND THEN, UH, IF IT'S, UH, OKAY WITH THE COM UH, WITH THE CONSOLE, THEN, UH, THERE MIGHT BE A VERIZON, THERE MIGHT BE A T-MOBILE AND EVERYBODY COME AND EVERYBODY CAN BE WITH THE HAULER. SO WE WILL BECOME A CITY OF TOWERS. AND THE WORST THING IS THAT I'M NOT AN ATNT USER, BUT, UH, I LEAVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TOWER. SO IN THIS CASE, I WOULD WELCOME T-MOBILE TO COME IN. SO, UH, YEAH, WISH ME LUCK. THANK YOU. FREED, FOLLOWED BY YOU, YOU CHIN FOLLOWED BY HARVEY EVENING. MY NAME'S REED AND I'M A RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT, UH, THE RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA. UH, SO FROM WHAT I SEEN TODAY FROM THE PICTURES, I ONLY SEE THE PICTURE FROM THE STREET VIEW, ONE VIEW FROM THE TOP OF THE HILL, BUT NOT REALLY FROM THE POINT VIEW OF THE NEIGHBORS. SO I'M PRETTY SURE THEY WILL SEE ALL THOSE THREE UGLY, UH, UH, EUCALYPT TREES. AND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS, AND I'M PER SURE THEIR VIEW ARE VERY, OR JUST WITH THOSE THREE PURCHASE. IT IS GOING TO BE AN EYESORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY START TO WORK FROM HOME NOWADAYS, JUST LOOKING OUT, THEY WILL SEE THOSE, UH, THOSE, THOSE STRUCTURE, 60 FOOT IS ALMOST LIKE A FIVE STORY BUILDING THAT'S TALL. SO, UM, I'M HOPING YOU BE, UH, LISTENED TO THE RESIDENTS, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND SUPPORT THEM AND DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE RESIDENT AND NOT FOR 18 T OR ANY OTHER COMPANY. THANK YOU. RV LYNN FOLLOWED BY WINDSOR. YOU FOLLOWED BY RICK ANG. LET'S SEE WINDSOR. YOU RICK. HI. UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, LISTENING TO MEET CITY OF M CONSOLE WOMEN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE BUILDING OF THE CELL TOWER, UH, ON TWO FRONTS, UM, QUITE A FEW MORE OF THE REASONS, BUT, UH, PRIMARILY AESTHETICS, RIGHT? THE, I THINK SOME OF THE COUNCILMEN PICKED IT UP ALREADY. IT'S IN A DEPRESSION AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE LOOKING DOWN AT IT. SO THAT PHOTO SIM IS PRETTY, UM, UH, IT'S NOT CORRECT. IT'S JUST MISLEADING PEOPLE TO THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE AN EYESORE. IT WILL BE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO LIVE THERE. UM, UH, I'VE BEEN IN THAT CITY FOR, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN, UH, WEST COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS, SO RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM IT AND WE GET TO DRIVE BY IT AND SEE IT ALL THE TIME. IT IT'LL DEFINITELY STICK OUT. UH, MY THREE-YEAR-OLD SON, UH, AT THE TIME COULDN'T PICK OUT CELL TOWERS OUT THERE DROPPING DOWN. IT GOT A LITTLE BETTER, BUT NOT MUCH. UM, SO I SOR DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. THE OTHER ONE IS SIGNIFICANT GAP. I, ALL THE NUMBERS THAT WILL BE HERE, THE MAP AND PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, I DON'T HAVE DROPS, DROP CALLS. I DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY NUMBERS. I'VE BEEN HERE PROBABLY THREE TIMES NOW, LISTENING TO THIS SAME SONG AND DANCE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN ISSUE THERE? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ONE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PROVE ANY NUMBERS, RIGHT? THEY HAVEN'T ASKED THE RESIDENT, THEY'VE JUST DONE THEIR OWN STUDY AND HAVEN'T EVEN PROBABLY GONE IN AND ASKED ANYBODY, HAVE YOU, WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF JOB CALLS YOU GUYS ACTUALLY, YOU HAVE TO SUFFER FROM. SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, UH, WELL, WHAT I HEARD FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS WHOLE EFFORT IS, YOU KNOW, THE AESTHETIC IS GOING TO TAKE A BIG HIT, ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO LIVE THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT. UM, AND THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEIR POINT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO GIVE IT TO US BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THEIR LIFE. UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT DROP CALLS OR WITHOUT EVEN SHOWING US [01:40:01] THAT THERE'S ANY, UH, THAT'S HARD TO PROVE HOW TO IMPROVE THE LIFE. THE ONLY THING I CAN SEE THEM PROVING IS PROBABLY SOMEONE'S BANK ACCOUNT. AND IT'S NOT THE CITY'S. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GIOVAN. OH, I CAN PASS THEM OUT. UH, GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. UH, MY NAME IS JOVAN IRRELE. I, UM, I LIVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE TOWER ON HERITAGE DRIVE IN SOUTH HILLS, UH, THAT WAS TAKEN LITERALLY IN MY BACKYARD. UM, SO, UM, I'LL BE EVERY MORNING, I'LL BE LOOKING RIGHT AT IT ONCE IT'S BUILT. UM, I LIVED IN MY WIFE AND I W I LIVED IN WALNUT FOR, FOR OVER 12 YEARS OR 10 YEARS. SHE LIVED IN WALNUT FOR 20 YEARS. UH, WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN SOUTH HILLS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE PAID A, QUITE A BIT OF A PREMIUM FOR THAT HOUSE. WAY MORE THAN WHAT PAID FOR OUR HOUSE IN WALNUT. AND WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THE VIEW IS PHENOMENAL. I MEAN, WHO WOULDN'T WANT THAT VIEW? EVERYBODY WOULD COME TO MY HOUSE. IT'S LIKE, WOW, THIS IS A, THIS IS AN AMAZING VIEW, RIGHT? SO I, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY. I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY REMODELING MY HOUSE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, ALMOST 200 GRAND. AND IF THAT'S HOW IT GOES UP, UM, I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER RECOVER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPENSES THAT I SPEND ON THE HOUSE. SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. UM, I HAVEN'T LIVED THERE LONG ENOUGH, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT HOUSE. UH, I JUST, UH, I'M REALLY AFRAID THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY. SO, AND THAT WAS TAKEN LITERALLY IN MY BACKYARD. THAT'S MY SON'S BASKETBALL COURT. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY TIME TO ALLOW ME TO SPEAK TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS SLIPS THERE. OKAY. BUT THE APPELLATE LIKE TO REBUT ANY TESTIMONY, GENERAL SMOKER. YEAH. JD GOOD EVENING. UM, I TEND TO AGREE THAT PRIORITY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE AESTHETICS IS THE ONLY CONSIDERATION. BASICALLY THE ONLY CONSIDERATION COUNCIL HAS WITH REGARDS TO THE CELL TOWER HEALTH THAT'D BE A PERMITTED, BUT I CAN'T. I JUST CAN'T HELP NOTICING THAT THIS QUALIFICATION OF GHETTO WAS NOT GIVEN. WHEN IT CAME TO THE AMAZON PROJECT. THERE WAS A PROJECT WHERE HUNDREDS OF CARS WOULD BE CREATING A VERY GHETTO ATMOSPHERE IN A VERY RESIDENTIAL ZONE. BUT TONY, THAT WASN'T A CONCERN THEN WHY TONIGHT? AGAIN, I AGREE. THIS TOWER IS PROBABLY A MISFIT, BUT I WISH COUNCIL WOULD BE CONSISTENT IN ITS EVALUATION OF ALL RESIDENTS AND NEEDS, NOT JUST A PARTICULAR ZONE. ONE THAT UNFORTUNATELY SEEMS TO REPRESENT YOUR DISTRICT MORE THAN POSSIBLY OTHERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SINCE HE ADDRESS ME, CAN I SAY SOMETHING OKAY. REALLY QUICK? UH, OKAY. UH, THE PLACE ON THE ASSEMBLE LATINO ROW, HE WAS ENROLLING YOU ALREADY. AMAZON IS NOT RESIDENTIAL. IT WAS A HONEYWELL, HONEYWELL. OKAY. MAKING ROCKET. OKAY. LET'S END THIS ONLY IF YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S OKAY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS END-ZONE MANUFACTURER IS NOT GOING TO PASS THE C CWA REGARDING THE RESIDENTIAL ONE PASS, BECAUSE THAT IS POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS. SOLAR IS ONLY FIT INTO OKAY. AND THE COMMERCIAL OR REZ OKAY. ON THE, UH, IS ONLY WITH THE MANUFACTURER. SO THAT IS THE BEST USE OF THE LAND CREATE FOR 500 JOB. SO LET'S SAY LATINO ROW BASICALLY IS, UH, END-ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO NOW YOU COMPARE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL, YOU ARE COMPARING APPLE TO BANANA, SO YOU ARE, YOU WANT TO BE A BANANA, THAT'S YOUR ISSUE, BUT NOT TO COUNCIL DECISION. SO THERE IS MY REPORT TOO, ABOUT THIS RESIDENT. I HAVE, UH, I HAVE NO MORE SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER WHO IS NEUTRAL. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M SORRY. HE'S UM, HE'S NOT, UH, IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED. HE'S NEUTRAL, MR. ROBINSON. OKAY. I CAN GIVE IT TO THEM. [01:45:01] THANK YOU. THAT'S ENOUGH. UH, ATTACHMENT NUMBER, UH, THREE OF THE STAFF REPORT IS, IS HOGWASH. UH, THE DESCENDING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS REASONING IS, UH, SPOT ON, UH, APPROVAL WOULD UNREASONABLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST HILLSIDE DRIVE RESIDENTS THAT JUST WANT TO STAY ALIVE. UH, PLEASE DENY THE ATT UH, PERMIT REQUEST FOR THIS 60 FOOT. YOU COLLECT THIS TREE ANTENNA IF, UH, EMF HIGH ENERGY SENDING AND RECEIVING, UH, IT'S PROBABLY TOO DANGEROUS FOR THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UH, UH, ONLY 18 HILLSIDE DRIVE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED IN THE, THE, THE SITE AESTHETICS, UH, REMAIN UNMITIGATED, UH, MORE 5G HEALTH RADIATION STUDIES ARE NEEDED. UH, UH, THERE, THERE SHOULD BE A FULL EIR APPLIED, UH, TO THE CONSTRUCTION UNDER SEQUENCE, EVEN IF, EVEN IF NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIS, UH, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UH, UH, IS GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO EMF RADIATION AND, UH, THE RADIATED POISONS, UH, THE, UH, UH, THE TH THE TELECOMS WROTE THE LEGISLATION THAT GOVERNS THEM, UH, AND THE FCC IS, UH, IS A SOCK PUP PUPPET OF, OF THE TELECOMS. UH, THAT'S, UH, BARELY ACCEPTABLE IN A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. UM, HILLSIDE RE UH, DRIVE RESIDENTS WHO SUBMITTED THEMSELVES TO THE JAB COULD BE EVEN MORE HARMED BECAUSE THEIR BODIES ARE, ARE, MAGNETISED ALSO, UH, UH, OUR MAGNETISED BODIES ARE INCOMPATIBLE, UH, WITH, UH, MRI TREATMENT. SO ANYBODY ON HILLSIDE DRIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD BE MAGNETISED AND, AND, UH, THEIR INTERNET, UH, COMPATIBLE BODIES AND THE, UH, ANTENNA, UM, MIGHT INTERFERE WITH EACH OTHER AND CAUSE HEALTH EFFECTS. UM, UH, ANYWAY, A LOT OF THE JAB ARE TRADE SECRETS, BUT, UH, PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEM AND, AND TRADE SECRETS IS ASIDE. UH, UH, THE GRAPHENE OXIDE, UH, GENERATES HAS, UH, THERE IT'S BEEN, UH, IN THE PUB MED DATABASE, THERE'S OVER 18,000 STUDIES ON GRAPHING, UH, WHETHER CALLED GRAPHENE OXIDE OR HYDROXIDE. UM, AND THAT'S NANOTECHNOLOGY, THAT'S INVISIBLE TO THE HUMAN EYE. UH, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE OF TECHNOLOGY, YOU CAN APPLY, YOU CAN APPLY THE EUROPEAN, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL LAW, UH, PRECAUTIONARY PRINCIPLE TO THE PROJECT, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THE DOWNSIDE IS REALLY, REALLY BAD. AND, AND THE HEALTH EFFECTS ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE, UH, COULD BE DIRE. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS SLIPS MAY POTENTIAL. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON. LET'S SEE. UM, WHAT THE APPELLATE LIKE TO BE, BUT ANY TESTIMONY IS THAT QUICK YOU'RE 60 FEET. SHE'LL BE, UM, JUST A COUPLE POINTS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS A PART OF THE PLANNING PACKAGE THAT WE HAD TO PUT TOGETHER. UH, WE DID HAVE TO DO A COMMUNITY OUTREACH BACK IN AUGUST, AND WHEN AT THAT TIME IT WAS VIA ZOOM WITH COVID. UM, AND WE SEND OUT NOTICES TO 300 FEET RADIUS OF WHERE THE CELL SITES LOCATED, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMUNITY OUTREACH ATTEND THAT MEETING. THE CITY PLANNER DID ATTEND THAT MEETING AS WELL AS MYSELF AND AS WELL AS OUR 18 T REPRESENTATIVE. UM, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMUNITY ATTEND OPPOSING OR FOR THAT PROJECT AT THAT TIME. AND I'LL ASK A QUESTION. YES, GO AHEAD. DO YOU KNOW HOW, HOW MANY, UH, RESIDENTS THAT WAS WITHIN THE 300 FEET? UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, THE, OUR PLANTERS SHOULD HAVE IT 18. IT'S WITHIN A 300 FEET THAT THE CODE CALLS OUT. I ALSO WANT TO KIND OF BRING UP SOME POINTS [01:50:01] REGARDING FIRST THEN, AND I KNOW DAN IS ALSO GOING TO SPEAK OF THAT AS WELL. UM, I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT, UH, WEST COVINA POLICE MAY NOT BE USING IT CURRENTLY. HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IF IT IS USED FOR OTHER LA COUNTY COVINA LINDORA, UM, AND THAT'S ALSO BAND 14 IS IF THERE'S A DISASTER, UH, YOU KNOW, AND OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS ARE COMING INTO THE CITY, UM, THAT WILL BE A USE FOR THESE, THOSE OTHER CITIES AS WELL. AND THEN DID YOU WANT IT, UM, YEAH, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION ON FIRST NET WAS, WAS, WAS A GOOD ONE. UM, THE NETWORK ONLY KICKS IN WHEN THERE IS A DISASTER OF SORTS, RIGHT. WHEN THE NETWORK IS BEING STRAINED. UM, AND SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THE OTHER THING, UH, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, THE SIGNIFICANT GAP AND, UM, THE MAPS THAT WE PROVIDED. I KNOW THAT OUR ATTORNEY PROVIDED A LETTER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. I THINK YOU GUYS GOT IT AS WELL, SORT OF EXPLAINING SOME OF THE FEDERAL LAW, RIGHT. AND THE, UM, BURDEN OF PROOF. UM, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, OUR ENGINEERS, WE HAD AN, UH, UH, UH, RADIO FREQUENCY ENGINEER, SUBMIT A LETTER, UM, SIGNED, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING THE NEED, RIGHT. WE DON'T GO AROUND BUILDING THESE SITES BECAUSE WE WANT TO WRITE, IT COSTS US MONEY. IT DOESN'T MAKE US MONEY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ROBUST SERVICE FOR OUR, OUR, UH, UH, OUR CLIENTS, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, UM, NEIGHBORS, UH, VISITORS, RIGHT. IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT, RIGHT NEAR IT. IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT GO INTO THE PARK. RIGHT. IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE BY RIGHT NOW, UM, THE COVERAGE GAP, THE SIGNIFICANT COVERAGE GAP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, IN BUILDING AND IN VEHICLE. RIGHT. SO THERE MAY STILL BE CALL COVERAGE, UM, IF YOU'RE WALKING AROUND OUTSIDE, UM, AND YOU MAY, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE SPOTTY. IT MAY BE OKAY AT TIMES, IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF USERS ON THE NETWORK. RIGHT. AND AS YOU KNOW, COVID HAS KIND OF PROVEN MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE ON THEIR DEVICES, RIGHT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE RELYING ON, ON THEIR PHONES. THERE'S MORE AND MORE CONNECTED DEVICES. AND OUR SITES ARE SORT OF LIKE A HOSE, RIGHT. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH BANDWIDTH, SO MUCH SIGNAL THAT CAN COME OUT. RIGHT. AND THE MORE PEOPLE USE THEM, THOSE, UH, THOSE SITES, THEIR FOOTPRINT SHRINKS. RIGHT. AND SO PART OF THAT MODELING THAT'S THE CURRENT MODELING. RIGHT. BUT WHAT WE DON'T SHOW, CAUSE WE DON'T TYPICALLY DO IT IS AS THE, AS TIME GOES RIGHT. MORE AND MORE USERS GET ON THAT NETWORK AND THERE'S MORE STRAIN AND THAT FOOTPRINT SHRINKS EVEN FURTHER. RIGHT. SO THE, THE, THE GAP BECOMES EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT. SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. I ALSO WANTED TO KIND OF GO BACK TO, I KNOW YOU GUYS MENTIONED THE BLOCK WALL. UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. UM, WE TYPICALLY AT AND T STAY AWAY FROM THAT, RIGHT? THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS. COST IS ONE OF THEM, BUT ALSO THERE'S A RELIABILITY ISSUE. UM, WHEN WE VAULT SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO ALSO HAVE PUMPS, RIGHT. THAT GO ALONG WITH IT BECAUSE WHEN IT RAINS, THESE THINGS CAN FLOOD AND THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE PUMPED OUT. IF THOSE PUMPS HAVE AN ISSUE, THE CELL SITE GOES OUT REGARDLESS, THERE'S A GENERATOR THAT GOES ALONG WITH THESE SITES THAT CANNOT BE UNDERGROUND. RIGHT. AND SO THAT HAS TO BE LEFT OUTSIDE. UM, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THE CMU WALL IS NOT SEEN FROM ANY VANTAGE POINT IT'S COVERED IN RIGHT. IMMEDIATELY BEHIND. IT IS A HUGE, YOU KNOW, WATER TANK AND RIGHT NEXT TO THAT IS ANOTHER HUGE WATER TANK. SO, UM, AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE AGREED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT VINES WILL GROW UP, UM, ALONG THAT WALL. UM, AND AS FAR AS THE TREE GOES, UM, THE PICTURES THAT WE DID SHOW, UH, THAT, THAT JESSICA SHOWED OF IRVINE, THOSE ARE ACTUAL PICTURES, RIGHT? THAT WAS, THOSE ARE BUILT SITES, UM, IN IRVINE. UM, AND THEY EXIST TODAY THAT ANYBODY CAN COME BY AND, AND DRIVE AND, AND LOOK AT. AND I THINK THEY LOOK GREAT. UM, YOU WERE GOING TO PLANT OTHER TREES NEXT TO IT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME HEIGHT RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY'LL GROW, BUT IT WOULD ALSO LOOK KIND OF ODD IF ALL FOUR TREES, YOU KNOW, THE THREE OF OUR PLANTING, OTHERS WERE, YOU KNOW, 60 FOOT, RIGHT. I THINK OVER TIME, THEY'LL ALL SORT OF GROW AND KIND OF CHANGE AND HEIGHTENED AND BLEND BETTER. UM, BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT GAP. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE APPEALED THE ORIGINAL DECISION AND NOW WE'VE TAKEN IT HERE. CAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR CUSTOMERS. I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF AT AND T CUSTOMERS IN THE AUDIENCE. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S FINE, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT DRIVE THROUGH THAT AREA. UM, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF FOLKS I'M ASSUMING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVEN'T SHOWN UP RIGHT. IN ACCUSE ME WITH TRYING TO CONDUCT BUSINESS THERE. YEAH. YOU GUYS, I CAN HEAR IT. I'M HEARING. OKAY. WELL, WHOEVER YOU'RE TALKING TO, LET'S KEEP IT QUIET PLEASE. UM, SO ANYWAYS, I JUST, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'VE WORKED HARD WITH STAFF. UM, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO MITIGATE THE CONCERNS WE'VE, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED A LOT MORE EVIDENCE AND PROOF TO REALLY JUSTIFY OUR NEED THAN WE TYPICALLY DO. UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM DIRECTLY, BUT THERE'S A HUGE NEED. RIGHT. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT GAP AND, UM, WE'VE MET THE CODE. WE ORIGINALLY HAD, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, UH, PLANNING STAFF'S RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY ABOUT IMPROVING WEST COVINA AND, AND YOUR, YOUR CELL PHONE COVERAGE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, AND I'M HEARING SIGNIFICANT GAPS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR MARKETING, OR HOW YOU REACHED OUT DIRECTLY ON YOUR MAILERS OR ANYTHING [01:55:01] FOR HIM TO HAVE RESIDENTS EVEN BOTHER CALLING IN, BECAUSE IF THEY GET RANDOM MAIL, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS OR HOW THAT WENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEARBY HERE AND I HAVE YET HEARD OF ANYBODY SAYING THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT GAP. UM, OBVIOUSLY WHEN AN EMERGENCY DOES STRIKE, NOT IT, IT WOULD AFFECT ALL TELECOMMUNICATION. SO IT'S, IT'S JUST GENERALLY THERE, BUT THE SIGNIFICANT GAP ISSUE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. LIKE IT'S ALWAYS, SO LET'S SAY THIS EVEN COMES THROUGH WHAT'S TO SAY THREE YEARS AGAIN LATER, IT'S THE SAME ISSUE NOW, UM, YOU MENTIONED, UH, YOU PLAN HAVE IT AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT A DEVELOPER DOESN'T WANT IT THERE DUE TO THE AREA OF BEING RESIDENTIAL. UM, SO IN THIS SAME CONCEPT OF RESIDENT MENTIONED THAT THERE'S AN OPEN LOT THAT POSSIBLY COULD BE YOUR RESIDENTIAL. AND IT BRINGS ME TO, UM, WELL OBVIOUSLY I DON'T FEEL THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE HAS ANY BENEFITS TO THEM. UM, CITY OF WALNUT, UH, HAS A, UH, THE DISTRIBUTION FORM THAT WAS GIVEN. IT SAYS THAT THERE ARE COMMUNICATION TOWERS AND A T A TENANT SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 1500 FEET OF ANY SCHOOL NURSERY ELEMENTARY, JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL TRAIL PARK, OR OUTDOOR RECREATION AREA, SPORTING VENUES AND RESIDENTIAL ZONES. SO NOW THIS ACTUALLY BRINGS ME TO THE CURIOSITY, DOES A CELL TOWER AFFECT PROPERTY VALUE? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A STUDY ON THAT OR MAYBE STAFF COULD EVEN MENTION THAT, UM, THE CELL TOWER AFFECT PROPERTY VALUE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF CITY OF WALNUT SAYS 1500 FEET AWAY, AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE MENTIONED ARE VALUABLE TO HAVING A PROPERTY, DOES THAT AFFECT, CAN I, UH, MAYBE THERE'S A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS THERE. SO MAYBE THE FIRST QUESTION I THINK WAS RIGHT. WE'LL PUT HALF MAYBE ABOUT PROPERTY VALUE, ACTUALLY YOU, YOUR CELL TOWER X, NOT THE EXPERT, I'VE, I'VE READ STUDIES WHERE IT ACTUALLY ENHANCES, UM, COVERAGE. WE HAVE A LOT OF HANDS ON, UH, WHEN YOU SAY IT ENHANCES COVERAGE, YOU MEAN SIGNAL COVERAGE, RIGHT? PLEASE. WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE PRE-PLANNED OR, OR LACKING COVERAGE OR SIGNAL COVERAGE, BUT UP TO I'M TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY VALUE. SO I'M SAYING, UM, AND, AND THAT'S PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HOMES. AND IT'S ALSO, UM, SOMETHING THAT I GET ASKED, UM, TO BRIDES OR COMMUNITY SOME NOT RIGHT, BUT, UM, I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON PROPERTY VALUES. LIKE, UM, I'M REALLY SINCERELY CURIOUS ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW CELL TOWER HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BIG ISSUE. UM, OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A NEED SIGNALS DROP, AND YOU'RE FRUSTRATED, ESPECIALLY FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO SCHOOL AND THEY'RE, UM, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PROVEN. WE'VE HAD A WHOLE MORE THAN WHOLE YEAR OF COVID OF BEING AT HOME, DOING THE INTERNET, BUT YET I HAVE NOT HAD ANY RESIDENT STATE FRUSTRATION OF THIS, UM, ISSUE. SO THAT'S WHY IT CONCERNS ME, BUT STAFF WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY STUDIES REGARDING, UM, CAN I ANSWER, YOU GOT A FEW QUESTIONS THERE, RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. YOU WENT BACK TO SIGNIFICANT GAP. UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HERE IS A AT AND T CUSTOMER, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, THESE FOLKS HERE THAT, THAT, THAT ARE HERE PRESENT, UM, THAT LIVE AROUND THAT AREA. THERE'S, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY DECENT SIZED ROAD. RIGHT. AND AS PEOPLE DRIVING PAST THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE USING THESE PHONES TO MAKE NUMBER ONE CALLS, ARE PEOPLE VISITING YOUR PARK, RIGHT. UM, THAT AREN'T RESIDENTS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT, UM, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE ISSUES. RIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT GAP, THE MAPS THAT WE SHOWED OUR PREDICTION MODELS, RIGHT? SO WE GO AROUND CANVASING AREAS AND CALLING OUR CUSTOMERS TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE DROPPED CALLS AND STUFF DROPPED IT'S, IT'S A COMPLICATED SCIENCE. UM, AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF USERS AND, AND, AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS, EVEN WEATHER AND TOPOGRAPHY, ALL THESE THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PLAY INTO HOW THE COVERAGE, UH, IS AFFECTED. UM, AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M MY FAMILY AND I HAVE DRIVEN THERE AND ACTUALLY WALKED HERITAGE PARK. IT DOES HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW WHEN YOU CLIMB UP THERE, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUE WITH COVERAGE OR ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, THE ONE THING I WANT TO EXPLAIN, UM, JUST TO ALSO CLARIFY THIS CELL SITE, EACH CELL CARRIER, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR OWN ANTENNA ARRAY IS, IS THEIR SYSTEM. SO IF YOU'RE NOT ON OUR NETWORK, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS SITE ISN'T GONNA HELP A VERIZON CUSTOMER. RIGHT. BUT THE WAY WE'VE DESIGNED THE SITE, UM, IT IS CALLED LOCATABLE RIGHT. SO, AND THE SPACES DOWN BELOW OUR EXISTING SITES. SO IT WOULDN'T BE, UH, AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT, BUT EVERYBODY'S NETWORK IS SEPARATE. SO BECAUSE ONE NETWORK IS WORKING WELL IN AN AREA DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE OTHER NIGHT. SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A GOOD STUDY TO EVEN KNOW WHAT THE RESIDENTS CARRY THERE. BECAUSE IF, SAY, LET'S SAY, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD SOME RESIDENTS SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AT AND T SO I WONDERED HOW MANY RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA DOESN'T HAVE AT T AND T OR HOW MANY ACTUALLY DOES, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S REFERENCING TO T AND T [02:00:01] Y, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BY THERE'S VISITORS IN THE PARK, THERE'S VISITORS, THE, OR EVEN A STUDY OF HOW MANY RESIDENTS IN GENERAL. WELL, BECAUSE THIS OPENS THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING ALL THE OTHER TELECOMMUNICATIONS TO COME IN. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SO MANY NETWORKS OUT THERE. YOU CAN HAVE SOME, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OTHER NETWORKS SITES ARE NEAR THERE. RIGHT. BUT, BUT, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK TO THEIR NETWORKS. I COULDN'T. AND MY LAST THING, UM, AS WE'VE HAD A CELL TOWER IN THE BAY, WHAT 2020, UH, AESTHETICS IS A KEY ELEMENT FOR ME. UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S TO MAKE WEST COVINA BEAUTIFUL. AND I WANTED TO KNOW HOW DOES THIS EVEN MEET THAT GOAL OR THAT PRETTY MUCH MEETING THAT GOAL BECAUSE THE NORTH, UH, NORTHWEST PHOTO THAT I SEE, IT STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. IT SITS ON ITS OWN AND ADDING THREE OR FOUR TREES, IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE ONE LITTLE AREA THAT JUST STICKS OUT. SO FOR ME, THAT, THAT DOESN'T COMPLY. AND I KNOW YOU SAID CITY OF IRVINE, THE MANA EUCALYPTUS TREE LOOKS NICE FOR ME. IT DIDN'T, I MEAN, BUT THAT'S PERSONAL TASTE. UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT THAT HAS, UM, AN ISSUE FOR ME. UM, YEAH. SO, I MEAN, I I'M, LIKE I SAID, HERE'S ON THE CELL TOWER PROPERTY VALUE, BUT NO, NOBODY HAS ANSWERS TO THAT. AND, UM, CAN I, CAN I, CAN I, YOU JUST ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE VISUAL ASPECTS. UM, WE MET YOUR P YOUR CODE, RIGHT. AND WE'VE ALSO GONE AHEAD AND GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND BY ADDING ADDITIONAL FEATURES THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED. UM, AND I GUESS I'D, I'D ASK, WE, WE'VE NEVER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN DENIED TWICE AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY OTHER W WE NEED TO BUILD A CELL SITE. RIGHT. SO IF CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANOTHER DESIGN TYPE THAT THEY LIKE TO GROUND, WHAT'S THAT UNDERGROUND, THE, THE, THE, THE SITE HAS TO HAVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT TO PROPAGATE. YOU CANNOT BUILD AN UNDERGROUND. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, IN THIS CASE, WE NEED A 16 SMALLER, TINY. IT JUST, LIKE I SAID, IT'S HUMONGOUS AND IT'S NOT IN A GOOD WAY, BUT IT'S NOT THAT GREAT. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE, AGAIN, MY PERSONAL, UM, THING, I I'LL LET MY OTHER COLLEAGUES GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. MAYBE THE TOP OF GRAND AND WALNUT, MAYBE AT THE TOP OF BRAND AVENUE AND IN WALNUT. BUT I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, THEY PUT 1500 FEET, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SEE WHERE THAT RIGHT. THAT COMES IN COMPARISON. WHAT, GO AHEAD. OKAY. UM, I THINK WE'RE DONE. THANK YOU. AND, UM, I THINK I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE A PUBLIC TESTIMONY PORTION OF THE HEARING, AND WE ALREADY GOT QUESTIONS. THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ASKED QUESTIONS. UM, SO I WANT TO GET A MOTION TO THEIR UPHOLDER OVERTURNED, THE, OKAY. UH, NAOMI ADD ON SOME OF, UH, UH, COUNSEL, WOMAN TALK ABOUT STATIC. OKAY. I THINK THE ISSUE I HAVE IS THE DESIGN. OKAY. I THINK THAT THE ABOUT GROUND WAS A BLOCK WARD. OKAY. AND A POTENTIALLY, OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO GROW. OKAY. HIRES. OKAY. AND THAT IS NOT REALLY MATCHING WITH THE NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. SO THE ISSUE IS, AGAIN, AS THAT TAKES OKAY. THAT HAD TO BE OKAY. COINCIDENCE OF THE NATURE OF THE PARK. OKAY. HIDING. AND SO PEOPLE DON'T SEE THAT. OKAY. UM, PEOPLE MOVING THERE FIRST. OKAY. SO IN THAT WAY, UH, I WANT TO MOVE THE MOTION TO DENY APPLICANT ON DISAPPEAR AND UPHOLDING THE COMMISSIONER. OKAY. PLANNING COMMISSIONER. OKAY. AND DENIAL THIS CELL TOWER IN THAT LOCATION AS A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE'LL CALL. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WU AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL, WOMAN LOPEZ V AUTO TO UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DENIAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 21 DASH ZERO THREE COUNCIL MEMBER TABATA BY YEAH. UH, BEFORE I VOTE, UH, JUST WANTED TO, UM, TO SAY AGAIN. YEAH. I, I THINK THE, THE, THE AESTHETIC NATURE, UH, IN, IN THAT AREA DOES DOESN'T, DOESN'T MATCH WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND IT FAILS TO, TO MEET, UM, ITEM F UH, I ALSO, UH, W WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, AS, AS FOR THE LANGUAGE, UH, TONIGHT, UH, I THINK WE CAN BE BETTER. UH, AND SO HOPEFULLY MOVING FORWARD, UH, AS A, AS A COUNCIL, UM, WE, WE, WE DO A BETTER JOB THERE. UH, SO, UM, I, UM, I VOTE, UH, TO, I VOTE YES. TO DENY THE COUNCILMAN WU COUNCILMAN LOPEZ V AUTO. UM, [02:05:01] I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, JUST, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING, BUT WHEN IT BECOMES A RESIDENTS NEED, AND THERE IS, LET'S SEE A FEW YEARS FROM NOW AND RESIDENTS FEEL THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT GAP AND, YOU KNOW, BY THEN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN CONSIDER THAT. BUT, UM, FOR TONIGHT IT'S AN I MAYOR PRO TEM DIAZ, AYE. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO TO UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DENIAL. OKAY. OKAY. [7) CONSIDERATION OF MEASURES TO COMPLY WITH CALIFORNIA SENATE BILL 1383, NPDES STORMWATER REGULATIONS, AND AMENDMENTS TO THE ATHENS SERVICES FRANCHISE AGREEMENT] WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OVER TO A DEPARTMENTAL REGULAR MATTERS AND MR. CITY MANAGER, WHO WILL PRESENT THE REPORT EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL ITEM SEVEN CONCERNS, UM, CONSIDERATION OF MEASURES TO COMPLY WITH CALIFORNIA SENATE BILL 1, 3 8, 3, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, STEPHANIE WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING. SO SENATE BILL 1383 IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE ADOPTED IN 2016, WHICH ESTABLISHED STATEWIDE TARGETS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS OF SHORT-LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANTS, SUCH AS METHANE GAS, WHICH EMITS ORGANIC WASTE COMPLIANCE REQUIRES AN INCREASE IN SERVICES ALONG SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, PROGRAMS. THE FIRST IS THE WASTE STREAM ANALYSIS, OUTREACH AND EDUCATION CONTAMINATION MONITORING, INCLUDING ROUTE, ROUTE AUDITS, DATA MANAGEMENT, AND REPORTING SUPPORT, PROCUREMENT CHANGES, FOOD RECOVERY, AND ORGANIC DISPOSAL. UM, SENATE BILL 1383, AND NPD AS REGULATIONS HAVE PROMPTED CHANGES TO OUR REFUSE AND RECYCLING AGREEMENT. STARTING JULY 1ST RESIDENTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO SEPARATE FOOD WASTE AND FOOD SPOILED PAPER FROM THE TRASH. THESE MATERIALS WILL NO LONGER GO INTO THE TRASH CONTAINER, BUT WILL INSTEAD GO INTO ORGANIC GREEN CONTAINER. ALONG WITH GREEN WASTE, AS A RESULT, THE STANDARD RESIGNATION RESIDENTIAL RATE WILL INCREASE BY APPROXIMATELY $3 A MONTH. THE HOLLER WOULD COLLECT AND RECYCLE ORGANIC WASTE INTO COMPOST THAT COULD BE USED TO GROW PLANTS AND VEGETABLES. THE COMPOST WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS AT CITY COMPOST EVENTS, GIVEAWAYS EVENTS, UM, AS A RESULT OF ALL THESE CHANGES, THERE ARE PROVISIONS THAT WERE NECESSARY TO CHANGE OUR CURRENT CONTRACT DUE TO THE UNFUNDED MANDATE. THESE INCLUDE IMPLEMENTATION OF A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM TO COMPLY WITH THESE STATE LAWS POSSIBLE SERVICE ADDITION OF RESIDENTIAL AND OUR COMMERCIAL BLUE BARREL. AS THE HOLLER SEE FITS IN ENHANCEMENT OF THE CITY'S ABILITY TO COMBAT ILLEGAL, SOLID WASTE HAULERS THAT MIGHT INFRINGE ON OUR ABILITY TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, A CHANGE IN THE CPI FORMULA FROM OUR LA REGION, WHICH IS WHAT OUR CURRENT CONTRACT ENTAILS TO SPECIFICALLY GARBAGE AS A US AVERAGE. PLUS 1%. IN ADDITION TO THIS, THIS WOULD BE A 3% RESIDENTIAL RATE INCREASE IN THE FIRST YEAR, PLUS THE CPI FORMULA AND A 2.5% INCREASE IN YEAR TWO, PLUS THE CPI FORMULA, AND THEN THE CPI FORMULA FOR THE FOLLOWING YEARS ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, WE WOULD SEE A 7% COMMERCIAL RATE INCREASE IN THE FIRST YEAR, PLUS A CPI FORMULA, A 5% INCREASE IN YEARS, TWO AND THREE, PLUS THE CPI FORMULA AND THE CPI FORMULA FOR THE FOLLOWING YEARS AND AN ADDITIONAL FIVE-YEAR PERIOD DURING WHICH THE FRANCHISE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT COULD NOT BE TRIGGERED. UM, SOME TERMS THAT THE CITY WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE INTO THIS AGREEMENT CHANGE INCLUDE UPDATING THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS STREET, SWEEPING SERVICES, UM, AND THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT 1.2 MILLION SERVICING OF THE CITY STREETS MEDIANS WERE ABOUT 480,000 GRAFFITI REMOVAL SERVICES FOR ABOUT 547,000, AND THEN NO CONTRACT EXTENSION. UM, THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE FINANCIAL IMPACT TO CONSUMERS. AS I JUST MENTIONED, THE 3% INCREASE IN THE FIRST YEAR PLUS CPI FORMULA 2.5 IN THE SECOND, AND THEN THREE IN THE FOLLOWING YEARS. AND THEN ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND THE 7% FREE, UM, 5% IN YEARS, TWO AND THREE, AND THEN YEAR FOUR, IT WOULD BE JUST THE CPI PLUS ONE. UM, HERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEIR RATES MIGHT LOOK LIKE BASED ON CURRENT CPI AVERAGES. SO THIS IS JUST [02:10:01] A PURE ESTIMATE. UM, THESE HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY TWEAKED BASED ON, UM, UH, A MORE THOROUGH REVIEW, UM, AN IMPACT CLARIFICATION FROM THE HOLLER. UM, BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT A TWO TO $3 A MONTH MONTHLY IMPACT TO A RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN ABOUT A $22 A MONTH STARTING IMPACT TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. ONE OTHER THING THAT STAFF HAD ASKED THE HOLLER TO PROVIDE WAS THE RATE COMPARISONS WITH OTHER CITIES RIGHT NOW, WEST COVINA SEEMS TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT OTHER CITIES WILL ALSO SEE AN INCREASE IN RATES. SO THESE ARE JUST A RATES AS OF TODAY, BUT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE NEW SENATE BILL CHANGE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE, UH, HOLLER IS ATHENS IS ALSO HERE. SOME REPRESENTATIVES TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE IN REGARDS TO THEM. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THE QUESTION WILL BE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE COMPARISON WITH OTHER CITY? OKAY. AND, UH, SO WE WANT TO APPLE TO APPLE COMPARISON. OKAY. DID USE, UH, CAN YOU GO TO THE, KIND OF SEE ANYTHING INTO THE SCREEN OVER HERE? OH, YOU THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, OKAY. W W W WHERE'S COVINA IS ABOUT A HUNDRED, 1,000 20,000 POPULATION. OKAY. IF YOU COMPARE WITH THE SIMILAR SIZE OF THE CT, LIKE POMONA, PASADENA, EL MONTE, I DON'T SEE ANY, ALL THE CT. OKAY. WE A SIMILAR SIZE. YOU HAVE A, AND MIKE, IF I MAY, I'LL HAVE ATHENS KIND OF ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE THEY PROVIDED THESE NUMBERS, UM, BASED ON THEIR RATES THAT THEY PROVIDE TO NEIGHBORING CITIES. ALL MY FIRST QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, ARE THESE THE CITIES THAT ATHENS SERVICE OR THIS IS JUST GENERAL? NO, THOSE ARE CITIES THAT ATHENS AND DOES, AND DOES NOT SERVICE THEY'RE BOTH. THERE ARE OTHER HAULERS, SOME, SOME IS TIMBO CDS ON THE ATHENS. YES. YEAH. AND IT'S SOME, A COUPLE OF, IF WE CAN INCREASE MORE, THE, UH, POMONA, BOTH POMONA AND PASADENA ARE IN THE HIGH FORTIES, THEY'RE THERE THEY'RE $10 MORE PER HOME. AND, UH, ELMANI IS, IS ALSO IN THE MID TO HIGH. CAN WE HAVE A LEG COMPARED TO SAYING INVITING SO WE CAN SHOW TO RESIDENT? OKAY. YEAH. WOULD YOU PLEASE? OKAY. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU'D LET ME FOR A MINUTE, IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU, CAN WE HAVE LED HER TO FINISH, THEN WE INVITE YOU TO, YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OH YEAH. SORRY. I DON'T KNOW. SHE'S ALREADY DONE ALL THIS QUICK. YEAH. I LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME CARRIE CLIFFORD. UM, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR CITY STAFF WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. UH, AND I WORKED IN PRESENTED TO MY BOARD A POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO THE ISSUE THAT YOU'RE HAVING WITH 1383. AND THE END PRODUCT IS THAT I'M STANDING HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. AND YOUR 1383 INCREASE IS EVEN LESS THAN THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIES THAT ARE AROUND YOU. UH, TEMPLE CITY JUST WENT THROUGH A MAJOR OVERHAUL, AS YOU KNOW, AND THE INCREASES WERE, WERE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THIS. AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE LONG-TERM CONTRACT WE HAVE. AND THE ABILITY TO TAKE THAT AND AMORTIZE IT OVER MANY YEARS, LIKE YOU WOULD A HOME LOAN IF YOU WERE TO REFINANCE AND AMORTIZE IT OVER MANY YEARS, WHICH WE'VE DONE IN ADDITION TO 1383, HAVING A DIMINIMOUS IMPACT ON YOUR RATES. AND I DON'T. AND I DON'T MEAN TO SAY THAT SLIGHTLY, BUT WE'RE TALKING OVER TIME, ABOUT THREE BUCKS, A HOME, $36 A MONTH TO BE COMPLIANT WITH SOMETHING THAT THE INDUSTRY IS SAYING IS GOING TO RANGE BETWEEN A 25% AND A 55% INCREASE. THAT'S WHAT CAL RECYCLE SAID TO YOU AT ANOTHER HEARING, WHEN WE WERE ALL HERE EARLIER, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THAT AND MOVE IT OUT OVER TIME AND TO BE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC TO HELP THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES COMPLY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOUR RESIDENTIAL RATE WILL STILL REMAIN BELOW THE MEDIAN AND THAT IT WILL EVERY YEAR BELOW THE MEDIAN, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL FOR A BIG CITY. BUT WHEN YOU COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES, SIR, YOU ALSO HAVE TO COMPARE THE SERVICE YOU'RE GETTING, AND YOU'RE GETTING THE BULKY SERVICES. YOU'RE GETTING A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE TRASH SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE WEEKLY WITH THE CITY CLEANUPS AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOUR MANAGEMENT HAS NEGOTIATED IN THE CONTRACT. SO I STAND HERE JUST TO TELL YOU THAT I THINK TONIGHT, THE CITY, MANAGER'S ASKING YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO THAT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS, TELL THEM, TELL HIM ABOUT IT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE S THE CITY SERVICES THAT'S UP TO YOU. UM IF YOU WANT THE SERVICE, IF YOU WANT THE MONEY, IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO, TO PAY YOUR CITY EMPLOYEES OR PAY [02:15:01] US TO DO IT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. BUT WE PROVIDED THAT AS A CITY SERVICE IN A BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM FOR THE CITY TO COUPLE, WITH THE CITY, AND TO HELP YOU GUYS ON YOUR QUEST TO BECOME MORE BEAUTIFUL. I THINK OUR HISTORY WE'VE DEMONSTRATED OVER MANY, MANY YEARS THAT WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB, GETTING YOUR CITY COMPLIANT WITH RECYCLING. AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT WITH 1383, I'VE HAD THE JOY OF, UH, BEING ABLE TO DO THIS THROUGHOUT THE 88 CITIES IN LA COUNTY IN VENTURA COUNTY. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THIS PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE IS A GOOD ONE. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH MY BOARD WORKING ON IT. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH YOUR BOARD TO PRESENT IT TO YOU, TO HELP YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN WEST COVINA. AND, BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU. I WANT YOU TO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM, YOU STILL HAVE TO DO 1383. AND I JUST, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE SEVEN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, AND BY THE WAY, OUR EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF HAULING MATT IS HERE WITH ME, ASHLEY, YOU KNOW, BRIAN, JOE'S OUR VP. THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS CONTRACT. WE ALL DID THIS TOGETHER, BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THIS. THERE'S SEVEN THINGS THAT THE CITY NOW HAS TO DO THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE CITY. IF YOU ALLOW US TO DO THAT. AND THEY'RE VERY ONEROUS THINGS, WE HAVE TO BUY FIVE JEEPS THAT DRIVE ON THE RIGHT HAND, LIKE THE OLD, UH, JEEPS THAT THE MAIL PEOPLE USE AND ACTUALLY AUDIT TRASH CANS. WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND AUDIT QUARTERLY, HUNDREDS OF TRASH CANS, TAKE PICTURES OF WHAT'S THERE. WHAT IS IN THEM QUANTIFY AND CHARACTERIZE WHAT ARE IN THEM. PUT THAT IN A DATABASE THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD FOR THE CITY. SO THE CITY AND CAL RECYCLE CAN GO IN THERE AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMPLIANT. WE HAVE TO DO ALL THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION, WHICH HAS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. IT'S NOT EASY. YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT FOR YOU, EVEN THOUGH IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. WE HAVE TO MONITOR EVERY BARREL IN THIS CITY. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF THEM AND EVERY COMMERCIAL BIN FOR CONTAMINATION, WE HAVE TO KEEP THE EVIDENCE OF THAT. AND FOR MANY YEARS, CAL RECYCLE IS GOING TO COME IN EVERY QUARTER, AN AUDIT, AND WE HAVE TO TURN THAT REPORT INTO YOU INTO THE CITY. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DATA MANAGEMENT AND REPORTING APP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON YOUR PHONE FOR YOU TO USE. THE BIGGEST THING IS THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT. YOUR CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BUY THINGS DIFFERENTLY AS A RESULT OF THIS BILL AND JUST THE RECYCLED NATURAL GAS. WE DON'T RUN OUR TRUCKS ON CNG, THE KIND OF GAS THAT GETS FRACKED. WE RUN OUR TRUCKS ON RECYCLED REGENERATED, NATURAL GAS. THAT GAS COMES FROM DAIRY FARMS AND FROM LANDFILLS. SO JUST USING OUR TRUCKS, WHICH IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE INCREASE WITH THAT COVERS YOUR PROCUREMENT, MEANING YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A THING DIFFERENT IN THIS CITY. AND IF YOU DON'T DO IT, I MEAN, THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK, BUT OUR VEHICLES ALONE AND THE RECYCLED NATURAL GAS THEY USE MAKE YOU COMPLIANT IN THIS PROCUREMENT DIVISION, THE FOOD RECOVERY AND THE ORGANIC DISPOSAL. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THIS ABOUT ORGANIC DISPOSAL, COVER CULVER CITY, SANTA MONICA, BIG CITIES, RIGHT? CLAREMONT'S A SMALL CITY. THEY HAUL THEIR OWN WASTE. THEY HOLD OUR OWN, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TRUCKS, OUR OWN WASTE. THEY BRING THEIR ORGANIC WASTE TO US, OR THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN HANDLE THAT FOR THEM, IF THAT SIZE. SO I JUST WANTED, THE TEAM WAS HERE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT YOU GUYS DID, YOU DID SUCH A GOOD JOB LAST TIME IN SETTING YOUR CONTRACT UP FOR SUCCESS. IT'S EASIER THIS TIME TO DO IT AND TO INCLUDE SOME SPECIAL CITY SERVICES THAT I GET TO AMORTIZE OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO HELP YOU BEAUTIFY THE CITY WHILE YOU'RE DOING THIS. AND I CAN BE VERY SPECIFIC IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. UM, MR. CITY MANAGER, I HOPE I COVERED ALL THE POINTS WITHOUT BEING REDUNDANT, BUT IT'S A HEAVY AT 1383 WAS NOT YOUR ALL. I WANT TO TELL YOU ONE OTHER THING IN A FEW OF OUR CITIES, UH, ONE THAT'S JUST NORTH OF YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED NOT ONLY WILL WE TAKE THE RATE, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BREAK THE RATE OUT AND SHOW WHAT THE SB 1383 RATE IS AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM. SO BECAUSE YOU GUYS DIDN'T VOTE TO DO THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLY TO. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BREAK THE BILL OUT TO SHOW WHAT THE LOCAL BILL IS AND WHAT THE SB 1383 AMOUNT IS AS A RESULT OF THAT ASSEMBLY BILL. AND WE THINK THAT HELPS LOCAL GOVERNMENT A LITTLE BIT. ANY QUESTIONS I'M MISSING ANYTHING? UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION, UH, WILL FOR THE SB 1383, WHILE THE RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL NEEDING AN EXTRA BARREL AND DO WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE, THAT'S SOMETHING SUCH REALLY IMPORTANT. WE ARE GOING TO MONITOR THIS PROGRAM FOR YOU. AND IF THE RECYCLING DOESN'T GET TO THE LEVEL THAT IT NEEDS TO, WE WILL PROVIDE EACH [02:20:01] RESIDENT WITH A BLUE BARREL AND WE WILL PROVIDE EACH BUSINESS WITH A RECYCLED BARREL ONLY IF WE NEED TO. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EDUCATE UNDER WHAT WE HAVE. AND THE GOAL HERE IS TO TAKE THE FOOD THAT YOU PUT IN YOUR MIXED WASTE BUREAU AND MOVE IT TO THE GREEN BARREL. OKAY. AND WE HAVE TO TEACH EVERYBODY HOW TO DO THAT. AND WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING, AND CAL RECYCLE SAYS ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 30% OF THE TONNAGE THAT YOU THROW OUT IS FOOD. AND THAT SHOULD GO TO YOUR GREEN BARREL. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, BUT AT ANY POINT IN TIME, IF WE NEED TO INCREASE RECYCLING EVEN MORE, IT WILL BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND OUR COST TO PUT THAT BLUE BARREL AT A RESIDENT OR TO PUT IT AT A BUSINESS. OKAY. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT CURRENTLY THE GREEN BARREL IS FOR THE TREES AND IT'S FOR ALL OF THE GRASS AND ANYTHING YOU HAVE, THAT'S GREEN. NOW IT'S GOING TO BE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAS ORGANIC OR ORGANIC SOILED PAPER. IF YOU HAVE PIZZA BOX, IT'S GOING TO GO ON THE GREEN BARREL. IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, COFFEE, GRINDS AND EGG PEELS ARE GOING TO GO IN THE GREEN BARREL, DO YOU HAVE DOG BONE? IT'S GOING TO GO IN THE GREEN BARREL. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CONSUME, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AND JUST SLIDE IT AND PUT IT IN YOUR GREEN BARREL, WHICH YOU CURRENTLY PUT IN YOUR BLACK GIRL. OKAY. SO HOW MANY GARBAGE CANS AM I GOING TO HAVE IN MY HOUSE TO SEPARATE ALL THIS? JUST TO HAVE YOUR GREEN BARREL INSIDE THE HOME, I ONLY HAVE ONE TRASH CAN. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALSO HELP YOU WORK ON, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO PUT IT IN ANY CONTAINER. WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO TAKE IT TO YOUR GREEN BARREL AND PUT IT IN THERE WITH THE GREEN. SO YOU DON'T, IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU COULD PUT IT IN A BAG, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T REQUIRE THAT WE WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO TAKE YOUR FOOD SCRAPS, SCRAPE THEM INTO THERE AND THEN LEAVE IT THAT WAY AND PUT YOUR GRASS THAT LIKE YOU DO AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT FROM THERE. I HAD TOLD HIM. YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, MAY I PRETEND, OKAY. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, ALL THIS KITCHEN WASTE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT PUTTING THE GREEN WEST. OKAY. CONTENDER, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUE. HOW ABOUT THE GREASE? BECAUSE YOU HAVE A COOK, THEN YOU HAVE A QUEASY THEY'RE GOING TO GREEN TO ORGANIC WASTE. SO BASICALLY ALL THE KITCHEN WASTE IN QUEENS, THE OLDER GREASY, WE DEEP FRY. YOU HAVE THAT GREASE. YOU GO INTO YOUR GREEN. YEP. YEAH. THIS, UH, IT'S SOME IN OUR ORGANIC FACILITY, SOMETIMES TANKERS OF MILK OR TANKERS OF THAT TYPE OF FOOD OIL MIX AND WELL, TO MAKE THE ORGANIC COMPOST. SECOND QUESTION WILL BE OKAY SINCE THE PEOPLE PUT ALWAYS INTO THE PLASTIC BACK. SO YOU CAN PUT A PATSY BAG INTO THE GREEN. YES, YOU CAN. WE HAVE A, THAT'S ANOTHER, I, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP THERE AND LOOK AT IT, I SENT YOU A LINK TO LOOK AT IT. UM, WE HAVE A BAG BREAKER ON OUR LINE. SO THE, THE, THE FOOD WASTE GOES DOWN AND A BAG BREAKER ACTUALLY LIBERATES. THEY CALL IT DOESN'T DAMAGE, BUT LIBERATES WHAT'S INSIDE OF IT, BUT WE ASK YOU NOT TO DO THAT, BUT WE KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO, SO WE ASK YOU TO USE A CLEAR BAG IF YOU CAN, SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S IN IT. SO WITH THE 1383, THIS GUIDELINE, WE NEED TO PUT ALL THE KITCHEN WASTE NOW INTO THE BLACK BARREL THAT WE HAVE TO GO INTO THE GREEN BURIAL IN THE FUTURE. AND NOT ONLY KITCHEN WASTE, ANY ORGANIC SOILED PRODUCT. SO YEAH, ANYTHING WITH DECOMPOSE, WE'LL HAVE TO GO INTO THE GREEN, BUT YOU OKAY WITH THE RESIDENT POINT TO THE PLASTIC? OKAY. SO IN THAT WAY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE LEAKING OIL INTO YOUR GREEN BARREL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT GREEN BARREL WILL BE WATERPROOF AND DRINKING ON THE STREET. AND THEN WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SERVICER THAT WOULD REPLACE THAT BARREL FOR YOU. AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONTRACT. WE ALSO HAVE A SERVICE THAT WILL COME OUT AND CLEAN THAT BARREL FOR YOU. BUT REMEMBER, YOU'RE STILL, YOU'RE PUTTING IT IN YOUR BLACK BARREL NOW. SO THAT'S JUST GOING TO TRANSFER IT TO YOUR GREEN AND YOUR GREEN BARREL. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT. YOU HAVE IN THE CONTRACT, IN THE CONTRACT, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SWAP THAT OUT. SO THE BLACK BARREL WOULD BASICALLY, WE'LL JUST A TYPICAL, NOT ORGANIC WASTE, ANY OTHER WASTE, OKAY. PEOPLE WASTE IS AND WAIT, OKAY. GOING TO THE BLACK PEOPLE, DON'T RECYCLE. THEY CAN STORE ALL THEIR SUPPOSEDLY RECYCLE MERCHANDISE INTO THE BLACK ONE, TOO. RIGHT? I REMEMBER WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF MY PEERS, YOUR MR. NICHOLAS TALKS ABOUT A WET DRY PROGRAM. WE BELIEVE NOW THAT WEST COVINA WILL MOVE TO A WET AND A DRY PROGRAM. ALL OF THE WET ORGANIC WASTE WILL BE PROCESSED AT OUR FACILITY IN VICTORVILLE. AND ALL OF THE DRY WASTE WILL BE PROCESSED IN THE CITY OF INDUSTRY. AND WE WILL BUILD THE IRWINDALE MURPH. WE'LL DECIDE WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PUT A BLUE BARREL HERE OR NOT, BUT THAT'LL BE THAT'S PART OF THIS PROGRAM. I'M KIND OF CONFUSED. YOU SAID THE WET AND DRY, SO WET RICE, TAKING THINGS OUT OF YOUR CURRENTLY WHAT'S IN YOUR BLACK BARREL INCLUDES WET ORGANIC THINGS. IF WE GO TO THE QUEEN, NOW, WE WOULD GO TO THE GREENLAND. THAT'S WET. YOU THROW IT IN THERE, RIGHT. THE COFFEE. OKAY. AND WASTE WILL GO TO THE GREEN ONE. IT GOES INTO THE GREEN, WHICH MAKES THE STUFF THAT'S IN THE BLACK BARREL. EVEN MORE VALUABLE AT TIMES, BECAUSE IT'S LESS WET. IT, YOU KNOW, FOR [02:25:01] LACK OF A BETTER TERM, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE DRYER. YEAH. IT WOULD BE DRY. YOUR MIXED WASTE BARREL WILL BE DRIER YOUR GREEN BARREL, WHICH HAS ALREADY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED, BUT BY THE TIME TRASH DAY ROLLS AROUND, IT'S PRETTY WET ALREADY FROM THE CONDENSATION. SO THE PROCESS OF COMPOSTING HAS ALREADY BEGUN IN YOUR BARREL. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOOD AND OTHER PRODUCTS IN THERE TO MAKE THAT EVEN A HAPPEN MORE RAPID. AND IT'S QUITE A FEAT TO TAKE THAT AND THEN TAKE IT UP SOMEWHERE AND TURN IT INTO COMPOST AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU. AGAIN, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH ON YOUR OWN. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HAVE TO COMPLY TO UNDERSTAND. IT'S JUST MY JOB. OH. WE JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE, HOW THEY DUMP THEIR TRASH. SO MEANING OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WET. OKAY. OR DECOMPOSED. OKAY. ANY OVER, THEY CAN ORGANIC. WE'LL GO TO THE GREEN ONE AND YOU OKAY. WITH A PLASTIC. OKAY. AND THEN THE BLACK WIRE BASICALLY JUST I'LL DO WASTE LIKE A DRY ONE TO PAY BILL PLASTIC, DEAL CETERA, ET CETERA. YES. OKAY. IS IT CALLED? UM, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WOULD THE THRESHOLD BE, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO COMPLY, TO MEET THE NEED WHERE WE DON'T NEED THE BLUE BARREL. AND THEN LET'S SAY IF WE DO NEED THE BLUE BARREL, IS THAT ADDITIONAL COST TO THE RESIDENTS AND CORRECT. SURE. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST IN YOUR CITY. IF WE, AS YOUR HALL OR DETERMINED THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RECYCLING, WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT JUST THE WAY IT IS, BUT A FAIL SAFE THAT YOUR CITY MANAGER AND STAFF WERE THINKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF IT CHANGES AGAIN? SO PART OF THIS PROGRAM INCLUDES THE ABILITY ONCE WE BUILD THE IRWINDALE MURPH, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS BREAKING GROUND NEXT MONTH, UH, TO PUT A BLUE BARREL, IF WE NEED TO, UH, WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO, BUT IT'LL BE TRANSPARENT TO YOU FROM A COST STANDPOINT. AND, UH, WE WOULD GO THROUGH ANOTHER TRAINING ABOUT WHAT TO PUT IN THAT BARREL IF THE NEED BE, BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING ADDITIONAL, NO, YOU'RE NOT PAYING ONE ADDITIONAL. AND ANY OF THE COSTS THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE INCURRED WITH THAT WILL MITIGATE THROUGH THE RECYCLING PROGRAM OR THAT THAT'S ON US. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF FOUGHT HARD FOR. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME CONTRACT QUESTIONS. UH, OKAY. YEAH. IF HE DID FEEL THOSE, IF I THANK YOU. UH, SO, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE, THE FIVE-YEAR NECESSITY FOR THE FIVE-YEAR COOLING OFF PERIOD? UM, WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS? I KNOW IN 2023, UM, WE WERE SET TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TERMINATE THE EVERGREEN CLAUSE. AND SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT IT IN THAT ENTIRE CONTEXT? UM, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE COST OF THIS PROGRAM AND INSTEAD OF GIVING YOU LIKE SHOCKING OR SAYING, OH, IT'S A 20% RESIDENTIAL INCREASE ON A 25% COMMERCIAL. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT OUT OVER TIME AND DO SOME OTHER SERVICES THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE US ABOUT 16 YEARS TO RECOUP. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU PUT A NEW PROGRAM IN AND IT COSTS $4 MILLION, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE A MILLION IN REVENUE THE FIRST YEAR, AND AS YOU TEAR THAT UP, YOU'RE LOSING MORE THE SECOND YEAR OF YOUR 7 MILLION IN THE WHOLE OF THE THIRD, YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES. SO WHAT WE'VE ASKED IS THAT YOU JUST PUT ANOTHER FIVE-YEAR STAYS SO WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP IN WHAT WE'RE TAKING THE RATE AND MOVING OUT OVER A FEW YEARS. AND THEN ONCE THAT, ONCE THAT IS DONE, GO BACK TO THE PROGRAM TO WHERE WE'VE AMORTIZED THAT OUT FOR FIVE YEARS AND WE SHOULD START BEING ABLE TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT. SO IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR US TO TAKE, GIVE YOU A BIG DISCOUNT AND HAVE THAT DISCOUNT UPFRONT AND HAVE THAT DISCOUNT FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, AND THEN HAVE NOT A STAY IN THE OPPORTUNITY UNTIL WE WERE MADE WHOLE BY THAT. SO IT'S JUST SO JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO THEN, UH, INSTEAD OF, UH, THE 20, 23 DATE, ARE WE TALKING 20, 27 OR 2028? I BELIEVE 2028. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UH, AND SO I TRIED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CONTEXT. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WE DON'T, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS VERY MUCH HERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO START BY WANTING YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS CONTRACT IN THIS WAY. ATHENS IS A VERY VALUABLE COMMUNITY PARTNER, AND IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WHICH IS, UM, RESPECTFUL AND RESPONSIBLE, AND THEY HAVE AN INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF THIS SERVICE. AND THEY'RE QUITE GOOD AT IT. I CAN TELL YOU HAVING SERVED OTHER COMMUNITIES, THAT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING FROM A VERY GOOD PLACE AS WE TRY TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THIS REALLY HONOROUS STATE LAW. SO THE WAY THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD MAKE THIS MAJOR INVESTMENT IN THIS NEW PROGRAM WORK FOR BOTH PARTIES WOULD BE TO SAVE THAT TRIGGER PERIOD. [02:30:02] IT NOW RUNS THROUGH 23. SO IT'S GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GO, WE'D ADD FIVE YEARS TO THAT, BUT WE WOULD NOT EXTEND THE TOTAL TIME TERM OF THE CONTRACT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS IN OUR INTEREST THAT WE NOT MAKE THIS A 50 YEAR DEAL, BUT IT DOES GIVE A CHANCE TO RECOUP THOSE UPFRONT COSTS AND EXPENDITURES IN ALL THESE NEW THINGS THAT THE STATE IS REQUIRING OF US. SO, SO JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RESIDENTS. SO THE EARLIEST THAT THE CONTRACT COULD TERMINATE SAY WE DID, WE WOULD MOVE FROM 2048 TO 2053, IF WE WERE TO DETERMINATE THAT, OKAY. UH, SO THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IT'S CURRENTLY FOR, FOR RATE INCREASES, WHAT WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS IS CPI. AND QUITE FRANKLY, AS YOU KNOW, IN YOUR INDUSTRY AND OTHER INDUSTRIES, CPI IS NOT A CREATIVE. IT'S NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE TIMES. CPI MEASURES THE AVERAGE CONSUMERS. AND BY THE WAY, I WANT IT JUST A SIDE NOTE. CPI IS GOING TO BE REALLY HIGH FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW CPI JUST CAME OUT. IT'S 0.3%. IT'S TRASH. CPI IS THREE. THE TRASH CPI IS MEASURED ON THINGS THAT ARE IN THE INDUSTRY, TRANSPORTATION AND TRASH INDUSTRY ACROSS THE NATION. CPI IS JUST WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH MILK, BREAD, BUTTER, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. LOCALLY. MY ARGUMENT, IF I WAS ON THE CITY, COUNCIL WOULD BE THE TRASH INDEX IS MORE APPROPRIATE ANYWAYS, THAT'S, WHAT'S COMING OUT IN CERTAIN NEW CONTRACTS. UM, SO IT'S APPROPRIATE TO CHANGE FROM CPI TO THE TRASH CPI. AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER THINGS IN THAT FORMULA THAT LINK IT TOGETHER. BUT MY ARGUMENT WOULD BE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A 10 YEAR SPREAD OF THE TRASH, IT'S, IT'S MUCH MORE STEADY THAN GOING UP AND DOWN LIKE THAT. THAT'S MY ARGUE THAT I THINK THE TRASH CPI IS A BETTER INDICATOR OF WHAT THE INDUSTRY'S DOING, WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY ARE GETTING, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK FOR HISTORICALLY IN THE TRASH INDUSTRY, WE WOULD BE HERE, OH, INSURANCE IS GOING UP, OH, LABOR IS GOING UP. THIS WOULD NOT RE, THIS WOULD TAKE THAT ASK AWAY. AND AS PART OF THE OVERALL PACKAGE. SO I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER. SO, SO ONE, ONE OF THE, THE RED FLAGS FROM THE STATE AUDITOR WAS, WAS, I MEAN, NOT ONLY, UH, THE, THE 25 YEAR EVERGREEN WITH ATHENS, BUT, BUT GETTING INTO THESE LONG LONG-TERM CONTRACTS. AND SO, UH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE ADDITIONAL OF THE, THE STREET SWEEPING, THE GRAFFITI REMOVAL, THE MEDIANS IN, INTO THIS, UH, AGAIN, HOW, HOW DOES THAT ALLOW THE CITY TO, TO LEVERAGE BETTER SERVICES? UH, AGAIN, IF, IF NOW THE, THE, THE MEDIAN, THE GRAFFITI AND THE STREET SWEEPING IS SWEPT INTO THIS ATHENS CONTRACT, UM, IN 20, 28 AS THE COUNCIL REVISITS, WELL, NOW YOU'VE KIND OF ADDED, UH, SOME POISON PILLS IN HERE, RIGHT. BECAUSE NOW IF THEY TERMINATE, WELL, NOW THEY, THEY LOSE RIGHT. TH THIS ADDED FUNDING, RIGHT. I ALREADY KNOW THE ISSUE OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, BONUSES THAT ARE PUT IN. SO, UM, YEAH, I GUESS THAT, THAT CONCERN RIGHT, FOR THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF THE CITY, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, UH, UH, THINGS, THINGS CHANGE. IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY IS, UH, GETTING INVOLVED RIGHT. IS, IS BASICALLY MAKING AN AGREEMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF A, FOR FOREVER THING. UH, SO, UH, I, I GUESS, DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE AUDITOR HAD SAID AND, AND YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT, THANK YOU. UM, THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY, WE'RE QUITE AWARE OF THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE AUDITOR. I CAN TELL YOU, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN STATE LAW THAT THESE SERVICES BE BID, BUT THERE, IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY BETTER SERVICES, BASED ON A BID, WHEN THE CITY ENTERED INTO ITS CONTRACT WITH ITS CURRENT STREETSWEEPER, THAT WAS PUT OUT THIS SEGUES THAT TO RESPONSIBILITY AND MOVE STREET SWEEPING FROM ONCE A WEEK TO TWICE A WEEK, IN TERMS OF OUR OUTWARD FACING SERVICES, WE'VE GOT QUITE A NEED IN THAT AREA. LIKEWISE, WITH THE MEDIAN MAINTENANCE, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONCERNS ABOUT POOR QUALITY SERVICE. WE JUST REBID IT. SO THE PRICE IN THIS CONTRACT REFLECTS THAT BID PROCESS AND PRICE. AND THEN FINALLY WITH GRAFFITI REMOVAL SERVICES, WE'RE NOW SPENDING ABOUT HALF THAT FOR ONE MAN AND A TRUCK FULL TIME, AND THIS JUST TAKES [02:35:01] THAT AMOUNT AND DOUBLES IT. SO THE COMPARATIVE MEASURE THERE IS WHAT'S THE COST OF DOING IT WITH CITY FORCE ACCOUNTS. I BELIEVE THESE PRICES ARE COMPETITIVE, AND I BELIEVE THAT REASONABLE. SO, SO FROM, FROM, FROM ATHENS PERSPECTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PROVIDE THESE, YOU KNOW, UH, THREE ITEMS, UH, AT OVER $2 MILLION, UM, W I, WHAT IS, WHAT IS ATHENS GET FROM THIS, RIGHT? THIS IS A RIGHT. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF JUST HANDING STUFF OUT. NO, WE'RE NOT THAT WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING MONEY, JUST LIKE YOU ARE, BUT IT'S A LONG-TERM GAME FOR US. ONE OF OUR OWNERS USES THE PHRASE. HE'D RATHER MAKE A SLOW NICKEL THAN A QUICK DIME. AND WE'RE A UNIQUE COMPANY, SIR, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE DO, WE DO THIS STUFF IN HOUSE, UH, IN THE CITIES THAT ALL SURROUNDS YOU IN ALL OF THE CITIES, WE DO THE STREETS WEEPING. WE DO GRAFFITI REMOVAL. WE DO ALL THOSE THINGS. AND THE LONG-TERM BENEFIT IS REALLY TO THE COMMUNITY. WE LIKE TO BE A COMMUNITY PARTNER, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. IT MAKES SENSE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT TENURE AND ALLOW US TO DO THAT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. SO WHAT WE GET OUT OF IT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IS A BENEFIT OF PROFIT OVER A LONG, NOT IMMEDIATELY ON THE FIRST YEAR, NOT IN THE 10TH YEAR, BUT YOU KNOW, AFTER A FEW YEARS, WE START BECOMING PROFITABLE IN THAT REGARD, BUT IN THE INTERIM, YOUR CITY BECOMES BEAUTIFUL. ATHENS IS A PARTNER IN THAT, BUT MAKE NO LIE. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE FOR US FOR THE FIRST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, WE GO THE OTHER WAY. BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK TO RESONATE IS THAT FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT AND FROM A PHILANTHROPIC AND STEWARDSHIP STANDPOINT, THE CITY'S HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE TO HELP THEM. SO WE'RE MORE OF A PARTNER IN A BROADER SENSE AND, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A FEW OF THOSE THINGS ARE CONNECTED. ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO THE GUTTER THAT GOES INTO THE DRAINS, IT'S ALL TRASHED, THEY'RE ALL CONNECTED IN A WAY. SO IT DOES MAKE SOME SENSE AND IT'S THINGS THAT WE DO IN OTHER CITIES. SO, UH, BASICALLY YOUR CITY STAFF TOOK THAT AND ASKED ME TO PRESENT TO MY BOARD, THIS, THIS OVERALL PACKAGE THAT WASN'T EASY FOR ME TO DO EITHER BECAUSE IT DOES GO THE OTHER WAY. BUT ONE OF OUR OWNERS, WHEN HE FIRST STARTED WORKING FOR HIS FAMILY, AFTER HE GOT OUT OF SCHOOL, THIS WAS HIS ACCOUNT. THIS IS WHERE HE WORKED AND RAN THE BUSINESS. AND HE REALLY HAS A LOT OF LOVE FOR THIS CITY. AND HE STILL DOES. AND HE WAS THE MAIN DECISION MAKER. WHEN, WHEN I WAS PRESENTING THIS ALONG WITH MATT TO OUR BOARD, IT WAS HIS GUIDING POSITION TO GIVE BACK TO THE CITY AND TO MAKE US GO THE WRONG WAY FOR A FEW YEARS UNTIL THIS STARTS GETTING RIGHT. SO THE BENEFIT THAT WE GET IS JUST THE PRIDE OF HELPING THE CITY, EITHER SHINING JIM, THAT IT WAS ONCE BEFORE ON THE MEND. UM, I GUESS, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS IN ATTACKS? UH, BECAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A RATE INCREASE PRETTY MUCH FOR, FOR THE REMAIN REMAINDER OF THE CONTRACT. FROM, FROM WHAT I RECALL, THE, THE PREVIOUS PROCESS WAS IN ORDER TO DO A RATE INCREASE, YOU HAD TO COME TO THE COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL. SO, SO THIS, SO THIS IS BASICALLY AN INFINITE RATE INCREASE TO GET THESE, THESE SERVICES. YOU CAN TELL MY EX, EXPLAIN THAT TO ME JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND, GO FOR IT. WE STILL HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANNUAL APPROVALS. THERE'S A PR THERE'S A PROCESS THAT, THAT THIS GOES THROUGH. AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ANNUAL INCREASES THAT YOU HAVE, SIR, UNDER THIS UNFUNDED MANDATE, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS ANYWAYS, AND EVERY CITY HAS HAD TO DO IT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS MORE PALATABLE FOR YOU IN DOING THAT, INSTEAD OF DOING IT ALL YEAR ONE, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE IT OUT OVER MANY YEARS. AND SO IT'S, IT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, CITIES ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, YOU CAN CALL IT A TAX, BUT IF YOU DON'T DO IT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE FINE, $10,000 A DAY BY TOWER CYCLE. SO OUR ASSEMBLY AND SENATE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS NEW LAW. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. SO IN THAT ENTIRE PACKAGE, NO, I MEAN, I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE SB 1383 PORTION. YES. UH, BUT THE, THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT, THE STREET SWEEPING THE MEDIANS, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT 1383. RIGHT? THE, THE, THESE ARE ADDITIONALS, RIGHT. THAT OUR, THAT OUR COMPANY IS GOING TO START DOING FOR THIS CITY AS PART OF A BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM IN EXCHANGE FOR THE MANY YEARS THAT WE HAVE HERE. RIGHT. AND IT'S GOING TO COST US MONEY TO DO THIS. YES. AND IT'S [02:40:01] EVENTUALLY IN THE, LONG-TERM ALSO GONNA COST THE RESIDENTS MONEY. YES. OKAY. POTENTIALLY, I MEAN, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING MORE. 90% OF THAT IS FOR 1383, A VERY SMALL PORTION IS FOR THE SERVICES. IT'S A VERY SMALL PORTION. AND, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I I'VE JUST, AGAIN, WHEN I, WHEN I GO BACK TO THE AUDIT FINDINGS, UH, AND I GO BACK TO BEST PRACTICES OF CITIES, RIGHT. WE, WE DO HAVE AN RFP PROCESS. RIGHT. WE, WE DO PUT OUT TO BID, UH, AND SO, UH, AGAIN, TO, TO FARM OUT THE SERVICE, ALL THESE SERVICES TO ATHENS, UH, AND THEN RIGHT IN LA, RIGHT. W WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING A SITUATION WHERE THAT, THAT EVERGREEN CLAUSE BECOMES EVEN, UM, MORE POWERFUL, RIGHT? AND MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR FUTURE COUNCILS TO LOOK AT SUBJECTIVELY, UH, AND, AND MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO TERMINATE. UH, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT WAS CLEAR. I UNDERSTAND THE 1383 SECTION, UM, I ALSO WANTED RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FIVE-YEAR COOLING OFF MEANT, WHICH, WHICH DOES MEAN WE CAN'T TERMINATE THEIR EVERGREEN UNTIL 2028. IT MEANS A CONTRACT GOES AT LEAST UNTIL 2053. UH, AND THEN I DID WANT TO RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE SERVICE, THESE THREE OTHER SERVICES AREN'T, AREN'T, AREN'T COMING FREE, THAT THEY, THEY, THEY ARE PAYING FOR THESE SERVICES, BUT THEY'RE NOT PAYING NORMALLY WE'D HAVE A DIFFERENT REVENUE. USUALLY WE CALL THAT ATTACKS. UH, THIS IS JUST GOING TO COME THROUGH, UH, THEIR, THEIR TRASH BILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. OKAY. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP OKAY. ON THE CONSOLE MEMBER, BUY TO BUY, I THINK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAVE. OKAY. THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, UH, CPI. OKAY. YOU TALK ABOUT THE CPI CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. OKAY. I KNOW YOU HAVE A TRASH. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY WITH THE RESIDENT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE CPI IS DIFFERENT THAN A CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. THIS IS A TRASH PAY INDEX. SO HOW WE GET THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW TRASH INDEX. I KNOW THE CPI, I KNOW THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX BECAUSE I, IN THE MORTGAGE BUSINESS. SO, BUT, BUT HOW ABOUT, HOW CAN WE KNOW THE GRAPHIC ABOUT THE CPI? BECAUSE, OKAY. I THINK YOUR OFFER IS 3% PLUS CPI AND TWO AND A HALF PERCENT PLUS CPI. AND THEN THEY TELL THEM WE CPR PLUS ONE FOREVER. OKAY. AND THE CONSUMER OKAY. FOR THE RESIDENTIAL OF A CON FOR THE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE THE 7% PLUS CPI. OKAY. AND DAN 5% BOUGHT CPR 5% PLUS A YEAR AND OKAY. FOREVER. SO, SO, BUT THE CPR WILL BE THE VERY IMPORTANT INDEX BASED ON YOUR OFFER. OKAY. AND SO WHAT IS THE CPI IN THAT WE CAN, OKAY. WE FOR HOME, IT'S THE SAME, BUT WE CAN GET THIS INFORMATION, THE SAME NATIONAL CPI THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR INDEX FOR CPI, YOU JUST PUT GARBAGE AND WASTE OR GARBAGE AND SEWER CPI, SAME NATIONAL CPI PROGRAM. AND ON SHEET, THERE SHOULD BE A 10 YEAR UNDERSTAND. BUT MY POINT IS WHERE WE CAN GET THESE CBI. OKAY. POPPY WHACKER. OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, IT'S ON THE SAME FORM. SO BASICALLY BELOW IT, WHEN WE GOOGLE IT. OKAY. TRASH, YEAH. CPI WILL POP OUT. IT POPS OUT AND WE CAN DO A COMPARISON. YEAH. IT'S NOT AN ATHLETE'S THING. IT'S A NATIONAL AVERAGE ON HOW THE REST OF THE NATION DOES IT. YOUR FINANCE PERSON CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THAT, BUT YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THAT IS. EVERY YEAR YOU'LL TELL US WE WON'T, WE W WE DON'T COME IN HERE AND JUST SAY WHAT IT IS. SO NATIONALLY PUBLISHED NUMBER. SO PAST THE CPI, WHY IS THE GRAPHIC LOOK LIKE IT'S A 3% OR 6%? 2%. HALF A PERCENT. OKAY. AND, UH, WHAT I, SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF IDEA ABOUT THE CVI, BECAUSE IF WE WOULD, BASED ON CPI, DID CPR BECOME VERY IMPORTANT INDEX? IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE SAME PLACE THEY FOLLOW THE SAME. LIKE, I THINK THE, MY RECOLLECTION OF THE STAFF REPORT WAS THAT A REGULAR CPI WAS LIKE 2.4 OR FIVE. AND THE TRASH CPI WAS 2.8. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE OVER A 10-YEAR PERIOD. A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE. SO WHY IS THE PAST 10 YEARS AVERAGE WAS B HOW MANY PERCENT? 2%. THE LAST 10 YEAR AVERAGE WAS ABOUT 2.3 ON FOR THE CPI, FOR THE LA REGION. AND THEN THE U S TRASH AVERAGE WAS ABOUT TWO POINTS, 2.8, 3%. SO, SO, OKAY. AND THIS ANNUALLY, ANNUALLY BASED ON ANNUAL CPI, TRASH TO BI INDEX? YES. OKAY. AND WE WILL, [02:45:01] SO BASICALLY EVERY YEAR. OKAY. ON YOUR PROPOSAL. SO IT WILL BE THREE PLUS CPI AND A TWO AND A HALF PLUS CPF FOR RESIDENTIAL AND CPR. PLUS ONE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS AFTER THAT, IT'S JUST THE CPI PLUS ONE FOREVER. THOSE OTHER I KNOW. BUT CURRENTLY WE ARE CPI ONLY, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO YOU, NOW, YOU, YOU ASK HIM FOR CPI PLUS ONE FOR HOW LONG FOR THE CONTRACT, HOW LONG IS IT CONTRACT? TWENTY-FIVE YEARS. IT'S A 25 YEAR ROLLING CONTRACT. CORRECT. AND, UH, UH, WE STILL IN THE TWENTY-FIVE YEARS CONTRACT CURRENTLY, SO-SO RIGHT NOW YOU ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 YEARS CONTRACT? NO, IT'S STILL A 25 YEAR CONTRACT. IT'S JUST THAT YOU DON'T WOULDN'T CONSIDER DOING THE TRIGGER FOR ANOTHER FIVE-YEAR PERIOD LIKE YOU DID BEFORE. JUST STAY THAT. SO YOU HAVE A FIVE YEARS. YES. YOU GO TIME TO SAY, I WANT TO CANCEL THIS FOR 25 YEARS. YES. SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR FIVE YEARS. YES. TO TALK UP AND YOU STUDY, OR YOU WANTED TO DO, BUT IF THAT'S ON YOUR MIND, PAUL 25 30. YEAH. SO JUST NO, 25 PLUS FIVE IS WHAT? 31. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT AT ALL. IT JUST CHANGES THE TERM OF WHEN YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THE WIND DOWN OF THE CONTRACT. SO, SO DO WE HAVE A COMPARISON? I KNOW THIS IS 1383 BY ELLIS. WE CAN PRINT TO RESIDENT. OKAY. UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. WITH A COW, RECYCLER, WANT US TO DO THIS? WE STAY REQUIREMENT. OKAY. BECAUSE I JOINED THE COG. OKAY. IT'S COUNCIL GOVERNMENT. THEY HAVE A GROUP CT. THEY DO IT THEMSELVES. SO HAVE WE DO A COMPARISON, WILL WISE COMPARISON BASED ON THE TRASH COMPANY TO HELP US TO DO THIS. AND OR WE JOINED THE COG TO DO IT OURSELVES. DO WE HAVE COMPARISON FOR THAT? LIZ? WE CAN SHOW TO RESIDENT REGARDING, OKAY. WHICH ONE WILL BE MUCH MORE. OKAY. AND WE HAVE A NUMBER TO PROVE IT. WE HAVE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT. YEAH, GO AHEAD. AND YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING COG IS OFFERING YOU IS, IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. THE COG IS, HAS A SPECIAL PROGRAM THAT THEY WANT YOU TO JOIN, TO HELP IN THE UPFRONT INSPECTION. WE DO THAT. WE'RE NOT CHARGING YOU FOR THAT SERVICE. SO WE'RE NOT EVEN CHARGING YOU FOR THAT. WE HAVE A ZERO ON THAT LINE. WE'RE DOING ALL THE BACKEND WORK. WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH THE CUSTOMERS, WITH OUR RECYCLING COORDINATORS, WHICH THERE'S 10 OF IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO HIRE. THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING THEIR WORK HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND IDENTIFY THE TIER ONE AND TIER TWO CUSTOMERS. THEY WILL GIVE THOSE CUSTOMERS THE PROPER PLACE TO TAKE THAT. THE ORGANIZATIONS THERE'S LIKE THREE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS OF WHERE THE, THE NON PREPARED FOOD CAN GO. THAT'S LEFTOVER. THE COG HAS A PROGRAM THAT EXPANDS THOSE THREE TO MORE. AND THAT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE OFFERING. WE'RE HELPING THE CUSTOMER HELP THEMSELVES. CARRIE, YOU ARE EXCELLENT SPEAKER. YOU ARE VERY GOOD SPEAKER. YOU ARE A GOOD SALES PERSON. OKAY. AND, UH, BUT I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND, OKAY. WE HAVE TO STAND ON THE TAX PAYERS. OKAY. AND, UH, TO KIND OF WALK WITH YOU, I KNOW THIS IS YOUR OFFER, BUT IT'S THIS OVER CAN BE CONTINUED TO WALK WITH TWO FIRE BECAUSE CPI PLUS ONE, I REALLY WORRY. OKAY. BECAUSE PLUS ONE, THERE WERE INCREASED, CONTINUING INCREASE TO OUR RESIDENT OF THE TRASH PAILS. OKAY. BASICALLY ANNUALLY CONTINUE TO INCREASE. I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT FOR YOU. IF I MAY, SIR. UM, I MAY BE A SALESPERSON. I DON'T THINK I AM. WHAT I REALLY AM AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT HERE. THAT WAS A MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH. THIS IS NOT MY OFFER. MY OFFER WAS MUCH MORE MONEY. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT MY OFFER WAS A LONGER TERM CONTRACT, MUCH MORE MONEY. THIS HAS BEEN, WE HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING THIS FOR SIX MONTHS. I WENT TO MY BOARD AND SAID, PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA WANTS US TO DO. AND THAT WAS NOT EASY. WE HAVE MET WITH RESIDENTS, HAD TOWN HALL MEETINGS. UM, I BELIEVE YOUR CITY MANAGER AND YOUR STAFF AND YOUR CITY ATTORNEY HAVE TAKEN 90% OF THE WORK OUT OF IT FOR YOU. AND THEN GIVEN ME THE CHARGE TO GO OUT AND EDUCATE YOUR RESIDENTS. UM, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I BELIEVE THIS IS A BIG CITY AND YOU HAVE A, A LOT OF SMART RESIDENTS AND THEY KNOW THE VALUE OF ATHENS. AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. THERE'S A SMALL FACEBOOK GROUPS, SOME SMALL THINGS HAPPENING, BUT THE MAJORITY OF YOUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES UNDERSTAND THIS LAW. AND WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU IS I'M AS FAR FROM A SALESPERSON THAT, THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN THINK OF BECAUSE I'M HERE FOR THE LONGTERM. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS MAYOR, I WAS DOWN HERE TALKING TO ANOTHER MAYOR FROM GLENDORA, REACHING OUT. UM, I CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. MY WIFE WAS BORN AND RAISED RIGHT HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE. [02:50:01] I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND I CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. BUT I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW, SIR, THIS WAS NOT MY HUFFER. MY OFFER LOOKED NOTHING. I GOT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. I STILL WANT TO ASK MORE QUESTION. I KNOW YOU GIVE A VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR LOVE WEST COVINA. OKAY? OKAY. WE ALL LOVE WEST COVINA. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU CAN GET CHEAPER. OKAY. IF YOU LOVE US MORE, OKAY. KEEP A CHEAPER PRICE. WE NEED MORE LOVE. OKAY. SO, SO, BUT, BUT HERE WE GO BACK TO THE CONTRACT. SO MATE, BASICALLY. OKAY. I KNOW EVERY TIME FOR MANY TIME, WE, EVERY THREE YEARS WE GO THROUGH THE CONTRACT AGAIN IN 2016, WE TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT AND WE HAVE SEWAGE SWEEPING. OKAY. AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO DO ANOTHER CONTRACT IN THAT IN 2018. OKAY. SO W WHAT WITH THIS, WITH THIS OFFER. OKAY. AND WHEN WE CAN REVIEW THE CONTRACT, AGAIN, SOUND LIKE THIS CONTRACT IS LIKE FOREVER. OKAY. SO, SO HOW CAN WE MAKE A DECISION FOR OUR FUTURE COUNCIL? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER WHILE WE HERE JUST FOR THIS TIME BEING. SO HOW CAN WE DECIDE SOMETHING JUST LIKE EVERGREEN, THAT PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED NOW WE STOCK. OKAY. AND SO, SO WHAT IS THIS CONTRACT? THAT WILL BE OKAY. IT'S LED. WE HAVE, UH, OUR FUTURE COUNCIL, OR WE ARE NO MATTER IF SOMEBODY OVER HERE CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW YOUR CONTRACT, SIR, THEY'LL HAVE THE SAME CHANCE THAT YOU HAVE IN A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN LOOK AT IT AND CHANGE IT IF THEY WANT TO. I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE WASTE BUSINESS IS NOT A SHORT-TERM BUSINESS, GARY. OKAY. I'M SORRY. OKAY. YOU SAY THEY CAN CHANGE ANYTIME. IT'S A CONTRACT IS A CONTRACT, A CONTRACT. IF A CONTRACT IS SAY CPR PLUS ONE. SO ALSO HOW CAN THEY COME IN BACK AND THEN SAY, OKAY, WE WANT TO CHANGE THE CONTRACT. IT'S A CONTRACT. THE CITY COUNCIL MAY DETERMINE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT TO OPEN UP CONTRACTS WHENEVER THEY WANT. SO YOU HAD STILL HAVE A CONTRACT. YOU HAVE A COUNTRY IN FORCE. SO I'M SAYING WHAT, OKAY. THE FUTURE COUNCIL HAVE AWRY TO NEED TO DISCUSS YOUR CONTRACT. IF WE MAKE A DECISION FOR THEM IN THE FUTURE, THEY DO HAVE THAT, RIGHT, SIR. I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL FOR SO MAYBE CD MANAGERS, ATTORNEY GARY. THANK YOU. AND SO THIS QUESTION BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT IT SAYS CITY ATTORNEY, THE COUNCIL HAS COME IN, CALL IT UP. BUT AGAIN, I THINK ATHENS WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO ANY AMENDMENTS TO IT. THERE'S A PROVISION IN THERE THAT, SORRY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUDGE. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE, WE'RE GOING TO SUE YOU, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. RIGHT. IT'S A CONTRACT. IT'S A CONTRACT. WE ARE GO CONTRACT PEOPLE. SO IS A CONTRACT. SO WE WANT TO KNOW THIS CONTRACT. DO WE HAVE A DELAY DURATION TO QUANTIFY WHAT YEAR TO ANY CONTRACT HAS A DURATION? WHEN'S THE SARDINE DAY. WHEN'S END DAY. SO THIS CONTRACT SOUND LIKE WE DON'T HAVE AN END DAY. OKAY. RIGHT. SO, SO WE WANT TO KNOW, DO WE HAVE END DATE EVERY TIME, HOW MANY YEAR WE CAN REVIEW THIS CONTRACT? SO IT'S THIS HAPPEN? ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE LIKE KIND OF A CONTRACT, GARY, GO AHEAD. ANY TIME WITH THIS CURRENT AMENDMENT TO YOUR CONTRACT, ANYTIME AFTER 2028, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, TO MAKE THE CONTRACT, HAVE AN END. IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR GOAL IS TO DO. SO ANYTIME AFTER 2028, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT THE CONTRACT TO BEGIN HAVING AN END DATE AND THEY CAN DO THAT. AND THAT'S YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE CONTRACT. ANYTIME. SO YOU SAY 20 AND 28 TO TODAY IS 20, 22. SO SIX YEARS LATER. YES. SO SIX YEARS. OKAY. THIS CONTRACT IS SITUATION TO SIX YEAR, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THIS YEAR, THE COUNTRIES CONTINUE KICK IN FOR 25 YEARS. IF WE DON'T TERMINATE THE EVERGREEN TNT WILL CONTINUE. WE WANT TO CLARIFY IT'S OKAY. ABOUT IS THIS IS A, WHAT ABOUT IS, IS EVERGREEN CPI PLUS ONE. OKAY. UNLESS WE HAVE A NEW LAW OF UNDERSTATE, THEN YOU WANT TO INCREASE AGAIN. OKAY. BUT THE POINT YOU WILL BE CPI. PLUS ONE, ADD TO THIS BUMP DUE TO THE CALVARY CYCLER WALLS TO DO ORGANIC THING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE. CRAZY. THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE WANT TO CHANGE. THEN THEY WILL COME BACK TO RAISE THE PRICE AGAIN. SO WE JUST WANT TO KNOW TO PREPARE, OKAY. BUT IF WE HAVE NOTHING HAPPEN TO, WE HAVE, SO THIS WILL BE CPI PLUS ONE, BUT FIVE YEARS LATER, WE CAN REVISIT. AM I RIGHT? IS THAT DAVE? UM, THROUGH THE CHAIR, I WOULD DESCRIBE THIS INITIAL EXTENSION OF THE COOLING OFF PERIOD. AS A, AS A GOLDEN HANDCUFF, THE FIRM IS REQUIRED TO HELP US COMPLY WITH SB 1, 3, 8, 3. IF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT LOVELY STATE LAW, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. [02:55:01] BUT IN ORDER TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE, THEY NEED TO MAKE SOME MAJOR CAPITAL AND OPERATIONAL INVESTMENTS. THIS IS NOT A NEGOTIATED PROCESS BASED ON SELFISHNESS, BUT RATHER ON SERVICE. AND SO A FUTURE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRIGGER. OTHERWISE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GOLDEN HANDCUFF. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO KNOW, OKAY. IS THERE FIVE YEARS DURATION? AND AFTER FIVE YEARS WE CAN NEGOTIATE OR FUTURE COUNCIL CAN NEGOTIATE. OKAY. OR WE VISIT REVEALED THIS AFTER THE COOLING OFF PERIOD RUNS, WHY IT'S A COOLING OFF PERIOD. WHY IT'S CALLED AN ALCOHOL TWO YEARS LEFT ON IT. AND THEN THIS WOULD ADD FIVE YEARS TO THAT. SO AT THE END OF THAT ADDITIONAL FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, THE COUNCIL COULD TRIGGER A CONCLUSION. CURRENTLY WE HAVE SOME KIND OF FIVE YEARS. YES, SIR. YES. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WE HAVE LAND. OKAY. YOU'RE IN THE THIRD YEAR OF A, FIVE-YEAR COOLING OFF PERIOD RIGHT NOW. SO IF WE WANT A TERM IN THERE, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR TWO YEARS. TERMINATOR EVERGREEN. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND NOW HE WANTS TO EXTEND FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS WILL BECOME SIX YEARS OF, UH, YOU WANT TO KICK THE TERMINATION FOR EVERGREEN. THEN WE HAVE THE WAFER IN 2028 TO TERMINATE. YES. OKAY. AND THEN IN THE MEANTIME, 28 PLUS 25, I THREW THE CHAIR. I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I THINK I WAIT SIX THE TIME. OKAY. BUT LET ME SAY THIS WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IN TERMS OF THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A SERIES OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS. WE'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE HOLLER, WE'VE VETTED, PRACTICALLY, PUT IT TOGETHER. NOW WE CAME TO YOU. THIS IS YOUR FIRST LOOK AT IT. AND I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE MIGHT NEED SOME MORE TIME ON IT. OUR MAYOR WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, AS MUCH AS HE WANTED TO BE. I'M PRETTY SURE HE'S WATCHING AT HOME. I'M SURE HE HAS OPINIONS. SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT THIS OVER FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, THIS IS A LONG-TERM CONTRACT. THAT MIGHT BE A WISE MOVE ON YOUR PART. AND, AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS CONTRACT. I RECOMMEND IT TO YOU. UM, BUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND IF YOU WANT TO GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE VETTING AND A LITTLE MORE TIME THAT'S THAT COULD BE, UH, A GOOD MOVE TONIGHT ON YOUR OFFER. WHAT HAPPENED TO BUST UP? WHO'S GOING TO CLEAN THE BUST UP. WELL, IF I COULD, I ANSWERED THAT. I, I THINK IT'S EASY TO BUST UP TOO, IN THIS PROCESS TO GET, UM, TRASH HAULING FEVER BECAUSE OTHER CITIES GET MORE COOKIES. UM, SOME CITIES ARE GETTING THE BUS SHELTERS CLEANED. SOME CITIES ARE GETTING THE SPILLED ICE CREAM CONES, STEAM CLEANED OFF THE SIDEWALK. THERE'S OTHER ORNAMENTS YOU COULD PUT ON THE CHRISTMAS TREE. I, I GOT INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN I GOT OUT OF IT THINKING I WANT TO BE THE ADULT IN THE ROOM. I DON'T WANT TO GET, GOT IT. FINAL QUESTION. POSSIBLE TIME, DAVE. OKAY. FINAL QUESTION. I WANT, YOU MIGHT TEND TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN ASK. OKAY. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW GUARANTEE I KNOW ANTHEM HAS A GOOD REPUTATION TO DO OUR TRASH, BUT WHY IS IT GUARANTEED? THEY CAN REMOVE THE GRAFFITI RIGHT AWAY. THEY CAN CLEAN THE STREET, CLEAN SPARKLERS THAT WE CAN, I DON'T WANT THAT WE CAN SLEEP ON THE STREET. WE'RE OKAY. WE CAN SEE A CLEAN STREET. OKAY. AND WE CAN SEE ALL THE MEDIA AND HOW, WHAT WAS IT GUARANTEE TO ATHEN WILL. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT PERFORMANCE. AND THAT IF, IF, UH, THE PORTFOLIO IS NOT THERE, WHAT IS THE CONSEQUENCES? DO WE HAVE ANY T'S TO MAKE SURE NOTHING WILL COMPLY WILL BE THROUGH THE CHAIR. IF I MAY. I ASSUME THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL, WILL TELL US THAT WE COULD SUE THEM FOR SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE AND FAILURE TO PERFORM. I DON'T WANT TO SUE PEOPLE. WE DO NOT. I BELIEVE THEY'RE, THEY'RE A GOOD SERVICE PROVIDER AND THEY WILL PROVIDE, MAYBE GARY CAN ANSWER. OKAY. WHAT KIND OF GUARANTEE YOU CAN GIVE TO US REGARDING IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THOSE SERVERS AND THE SERVICE, THE PERFORMANCE WILL BE SATISFACTORY. YOU PERFORM THOSE SERVICES AND OTHER CITIES. AND THAT HAS BEEN VETTED OUT THROUGH YOUR STAFF, WHICH CT RECOMMENDED, WHICH CTS WE SERVE. WE STREET SUITE 27 CITIES, AND WE DO GRAFFITI REMOVAL AND SIX OF THEM. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE, ONE CT? PARDON? DO YOU GIVE ME A COUPLE OF CT NAMES? SO I CAN TRY BY GLENDORA GLENDORA, ALL OF THE HERMOSA BEACH, REDONDO BEACH FACILITY, TEMPLE CITY, SAN MARINO, SOUTH PASADENA ON ROVIO. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM, WE'RE, WE'RE THE LARGEST IN THE REGION OF ALL OF THOSE SERVICES, BUT WE DO IT AS A PACKAGE WITH OUR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH US. IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THAT HAPPENING IN THAT RELATIONSHIP, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS. SO, SO, SO THE VIDEO WE MOVE A HOW FAST YOU CAN REMOVE SOMEBODY CALLED, DO YOU HAVE A HOTLINE AS WAGES? HOW FAST YOU CAN SEE GOOD NEWS FOR YOU IS THAT OUR YARD, BORDERS, OR CITY AND WE, AND ALL OF OUR STREETS, SWEEPERS PARK IN THAT YARD. AND THEY ALL DRIVE THROUGH THE CITY ON THE WAY HOME. ANYWAYS, I HAVE A STANDING 24 HOURS. WE MOVED TO GRAFFITI. YEAH. THAT YES. AND WE, EVEN AS HE COMES UP, COULD WE INTRODUCE MATT NICHOLAS TO THE COUNCIL? I WILL GUARANTEE YOU THAT MY TEAM WILL RESPOND AND YOU'LL HAVE BETTER SERVICE [03:00:01] THAN WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY GETTING NOW. BUT GIVE ME THE TIMELINE PLEASE. IN 24 HOURS, WITHIN 24 HOURS, ANY GRAFFITI WILL BE REMOVED AND PATCH THE ST. CALLERS OF THE WAR. YEAH. THE STANDARD, THE STANDARD IS NOT GOING TO BE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT COLOR, LIKE A, LIKE A, WE CALL HER A MATCHING. WE CALL HER MESHES AS CLOSE AS SHERWIN WILLIAMS CAN MATCH THE COLOR. YEAH, EXACTLY. AND YOUR NAME PLEASE? MADNESS. MY NAME IS MATT NICHOLAS MATTE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MATT. GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN. YEAH, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION. I, I KNOW, UM, FROM THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT, IF WE TERMINATED, UH, THE EVERGREEN IN 2023, THEN WE WOULD LOSE THAT $300,000. SO LET'S SAY IN 2028, THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO TERMINATE, UH, THE EVERGREEN AND START THE 25 YEAR CLOCK. UM, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THE, THE GRAFFITI STREET SWEEPING MEDIAN? UH, WE STILL DO IT. YOU JUST PAY FOR THE SERVICE AT THE, WHATEVER THE RATE IS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT, BUT WE STILL WOULD DO THAT SERVICE FOR YOU. OH, OKAY. SO, SO, BUT WE WE'D WE'D PAY SEPARATE THAN WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY. WE WERE ALREADY PAYING. SO CURRENTLY WITH THE DEAL IT'S INCLUDED. YES. BUT IF WE TERMINATED THE IN 20, 28, THE INSTA, WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO SEPARATELY PAY FOR THAT, PAY FOR IT. YOU WOULD PAY FOR THE SAME SERVICE INSTEAD OF GETTING IT AT NO CHARGE. YES. OH, OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. SO, SO THEN, SO THEN THE NECK, AGAIN, I THINK IS A COUNCILMEN, WE WOULD ALSO MENTIONED. SO FOR THAT NEXT COUNCIL, UH, I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE THE GOLDEN HANDCUFF. IF YOU, IF YOU TERMINATE THAT EVERGREEN, THEN YOU LOSE THE 300,000 AND YOU LOSE ALL THESE SERVICES THROUGH THE CHAIR. I THINK IT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT. AND WE'D BE, YOU'D BE DIS-INCENTIVIZED TO DO THAT RIGHT. TO HIGHLY INCENTIVIZED, TO REPAIR ANY BROKEN ASPECT OF THE RELATIONSHIP. RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, I MEAN, IN THAT SENSE, YOU KNOW, TH THIS IS A FOREVER FOREVER CONTRACT. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ANY COUNCIL TO, TO TAKE THAT STEP. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT WITH $300,000 ON THE LINE, YOU KNOW, I CAN IMAGINE 2.2, 2.5 MILLION PLUS WHATEVER. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, WELL, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE IS ALSO WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE CONTRACT THAT FOREVER EVERGREEN AND, UM, WITH THE AUDITOR MAKING THAT COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY WITH ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS. IT DOESN'T ALLOW US THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE IN ANY FAVORABLE WAY. AND, UM, I HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT AND I DIDN'T KNOW, IT WAS SO BAD IN TERMS OF HAVING TO WAIT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, TERMINATE THIS. BUT, UM, I JUST, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION. ARE, ARE YOU, WE, UM, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED TO PUSH FORTH. I MEAN, YOU CAN MOTION IT, BUT ARE WE ALSO GOING TO TAKE CONSIDERATION MAYOR CASIANOS WITH THIS? DID HE HAVE, WE SHOULD MAYBE CONTINUE. I MEAN, I WANTED TO SEE OBVIOUSLY, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, HOW MANY CITIES TOTAL DO YOU SERVICE? IS IT 27 TOTAL OR, OH, WE HA WE SERVICE ABOUT 55 CITIES, 27. WE DO EXCLUSIVELY WHERE WE DO ALL OF THE SERVICES AND THE OTHER ONES, WE MAY DO ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT SERVICES. OKAY. AND, UH, WITH THE POSTING OF ALL THE CITIES, I KNOW YOU SAID SOME CITIES OR YOU DON'T SERVICE SOME AND YOU SERVICE OTHERS, JUST THE ONES AROUND YOUR AREA. OKAY. UM, AND I KNOW WE WANTED TO SEE THE, I MEAN, WELL, CITY MANAGER, DID YOU HAPPEN TO SEE ALL THE OTHER, ALL INCLUSIVE SERVICE CONTRACTS WITH THE 25 CITIES? UM, THROUGH THE CHAIR? I, I W STEPHANIE, COULD YOU PUT BACK UP THE COMPARATIVE RATE CHART FOR THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE HAD AS PART OF THIS POWERPOINT, THESE WEREN'T ALL ATHENS CITIES, THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO SHOW A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES IN THIS AREA PAY FOR FOR MONTHLY RATES, BECAUSE WE WANT TO STAY PRICE COMPETITIVE AND WANTED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THIS CHART IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT NEXT WEEK OR NEXT MONTH OR SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. CERTAINLY, UM, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR DIRECTION IF YOU WANT ME TO REACH OUT TO OTHER OF, OF ATHENS CLIENT CITIES TO GAUGE SATISFACTION, ET CETERA. I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. I'M HAPPY TO DO ANY, ANY WORK THAT YOU WISH ME TO [03:05:01] DO. UM, YOU COULD EXPRESS IT TO ME. I THINK I SUBSEQUENTLY. OKAY. UH, OKAY. WHAT IS A DEADLINE? I THINK THEY EXTENDED TO JUNE, JULY 1ST OR CAL RECYCLE, RIGHT? JULY 1ST. YES OR NO. IT'S BEEN EXTENDED. I THINK WE'VE GOT NOW UNTIL JULY ONE. YEAH. OKAY. SO, SO, SO WE NEED, LIKE TO THINK WE'D BE AHEAD OF THE GUY. YEAH. WE NEED A COMPLIED BY BEFORE JULY 1ST TO GET THIS COMPLIANCE WITH A STATE REQUIREMENT. SO, SO MEANING TODAY IS FEBRUARY 15. SO WE SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WE NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. OKAY. AND TO, UH, WELL-SPOKEN GARY LOVED THE CT SO MUCH AS HOPEFULLY HE CAN LOVE US MORE. OKAY. SO CAN THE NEGOTIATED A BIT OKAY. TO THE RESIDENT AND THEN TO BE, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON A LOT OF A THING, ORGANIC THING, AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. OKAY. AND TRY TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE TO THE CTU LOVE. OKAY. AND, UH, AND THE, THE CITY WE LOVE TO. OKAY. I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND. HE IS NO HALF FEELING WE HAVE TO OKAY. AND TRY TO GET THE INFORMATION. OKAY. LET'S QUIET. WE SEE DOWN OVER HERE. SO, UH, HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE IT. SO OKAY. TO CHEMO INFORMATION, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN CONTINUE TO TALK. OKAY. AND WE, Y WE TRY TO FIND A WAY OKAY. AND, UH, WE CAN KIND OF COME OUT THE AGREEMENT. OKAY. AND THE LATE TONE FOR US TO AGREE AND SEE WHAT WOULD BE FAIR AND NOT COVER, NOT ONLY THE CURRENT PUPPETEER, THE FUTURE, TOO. OKAY. FOR THE FUTURE OF CITY COUNCIL, FUTURE GENERATION TO WORK ON OKAY. THIS CONTRACT. AND, UH, SO IN THAT WAY, MY MOTION, WHERE THEY CONTINUE FOR NEXT MEETING, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, I KNOW OUR RESIDENTS JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT VALUE THEY'RE GETTING. AND I KNOW WHEN THEY SEE AN INCREASE AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY GET FRUSTRATED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YEARLY. AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN ALL THAT. UM, I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT ATHENS, UM, RESIDENTS DOESN'T HAVE A COMPLAINT WITH ATHENS, LIKE I'VE MENTIONED, AND, AND YOU'VE DELIVERED EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND, YOU KNOW, THE BULKY ITEMS, THEY LOOK FOR THAT TO A YEARLY THING, UM, INCLUDING THE, THE PICKUP AND HOW THINGS ARE SERVICES ARE, UM, BEING DONE. I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT I, I KNOW I TOURED ONE OF YOUR FACILITY. IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY IMPECCABLE. IT WAS VERY CLEAN AND, YOU KNOW, SURPRISING IT'S A TRASH PLACE, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT TRASH GARBAGE SMELL. UM, SO I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU TAKE CARE OF ATHENS. WELL, THE COMPANY THERE, UM, AND THE FACILITY IS VERY CLEAN, BUT I JUST, WITH THIS, WE JUST WANT TO JUST KNOW WHAT WE'RE REALLY GETTING. I KNOW A BIG CONCERN OF COURSE, IS THE, UM, EVERGREEN CLAUSE. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH OUR FUTURE STATE AUDITING, THEY DON'T HIT US WITH THAT. AND, UM, SO THAT, THAT ONE, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO PLEASE THE STATE AUDITORS. UM, BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT ON, ON THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ORGANIZATION, HOW THEY, UH, HOW IT'S RAN, UM, WE DON'T QUESTION THAT WE LOVE ATHENS. IT'S JUST, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR RESIDENTS ARE GETTING THE VALUE OF WHAT THEY, WHAT IS BEING DELIVERED THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW. BUT THANK YOU. I THINK THAT YOUR CITY MANAGER AND YOUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU THROUGH THE, THE AUDITOR ISSUE. THEY, WE, THEY WORKED ON IT VERY MUCH DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME. AND, AND I THINK YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT, BUT IT'S YOUR DECISION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, WE GOT A SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN WU TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER TO BOTS BY COUNCILMAN , COUNCILMAN LOPEZ AUTO I . AYE. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO. OKAY. UM, ARE THERE ANY, LET'S SEE, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS, UM, [CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR REPORTS, STUDIES OR INVESTIGATION] TAKE COUNCIL. YOU HAVE A REQUEST. OKAY. DOES COUNCIL COME IN OR REQUESTS? YEAH. OKAY. UH, I THINK I WANT TO DO FOLLOW UP. OKAY. WE, SO GO LAST CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE BATHROOM CONNECTION. SO I WANT TO KNOW THE STATUS. OKAY. UH, WHY IS THE STATUS CURRENTLY? AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CONNECTED, AND IF IT'S NOT, WHAT IS DRAGGING OKAY. AND A STEER CO NOT HAPPEN, UM, THROUGH THE CHAIRMAN TO ASK OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ROXANNE LERMA TO, UM, [03:10:01] RESPOND, SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT PROBLEM. THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN SIT OVER THERE IF YOU WANT MAYOR PRO TEM IDEAS, UM, THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, TO ADDRESS, UH, COUNCILMAN WAS QUESTIONED REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE REPAIR WORK OR THE SHADOW OAK BATHROOM, UM, PER COUNCIL'S DIRECTIONS. ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE DID HAVE WAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT GIVING OUR STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT INTERNALLY, EXCUSE ME. UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TRAINING CERTIFICATIONS, UM, THAT NEEDED TO BE ACQUIRED FIRST. UM, OKAY. WHEN DID THING HAPPEN? I BASICALLY RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FROM THE LOCAL RESIDENT OF SOUTH SIDE, AND THE RESIDENT SENT ME THE EMAIL REGARDING JANUARY SAY, OKAY. CASE NOW WORKING. OKAY. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS NOW WORKING. SO THE FIRST THING IS WHY THE CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T GET NOTIFY THAT, THAT, OKAY. THE THING IS NOT WORKING PROPERLY AND THAT WE HAVE A BRAND NEW BATHROOM. SO THE FIRST THING IS A LOT, LIKE LAST TIME I ASK WHAT'S GOING ON. OKAY. WELL, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. ACCOUNTABILITY HAS TO BE THERE. OKAY. THAT'S THE FIRST THING. SO, SO I, I EVEN REQUEST, UH, CALLED OKAY. ABS HOUR. OKAY. INSTALLER. OKAY. AND, UH, THEY GIVE ME THE TIMELINE AS A ARE RESPONSIBILITY OR CITY RESPONSIBILITY TO, WE PAY THE MONEY TO GET THIS NEW BATHROOM. AND IT BASED ON THE TIMELINE. OKAY. AND THE AND SEPTEMBER 14. OKAY. THEY ALREADY MENTIONED THE CITY, OUR PUBLIC WORK TOLD THEM THAT WE HAVE A ONE CONNECTED SEWER, BUT ON THE NOVEMBER 29. OKAY. THEY HAVE BEEN A HUNDRED PERCENT SOLVED BY OUR INSPECTOR. OKAY. AND THEN RIGHT AWAY IN DECEMBER POSSIBLE, EARLY DECEMBER OR WHERE THE CLOSET. OKAY. THAT IS PLUCK. SO MEANING, MEANING WHAT IS THERE IS NOW WORKING? SO, SO, BUT FROM DECEMBER, JANUARY WHEN OUR FEBRUARY 15. SO IF THE CITIES CAN PROBABLY WORK, STAB, OR DO YOU FIND OUT THE ISSUE, WHY DID YOU NEED TO ADDRESS RIGHT AWAY? OKAY. TO CONNECT? I CONNECT. OKAY. MY OKAY. AND SEWER AND THE, I DID. OKAY. YEAH. HIRE THE CONTRACTOR. OKAY. AND TO PUT A SEWER CONNECTION. SO, SO HARD, SO TYPICAL TO DO IT. AND THEN LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, WE TALKED TO RAUL. THEY SAY, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF, OR MAYBE DO IT. IN-HOUSE SO QUICKLY CAN FIX THE ISSUE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A TYPICAL THING TO DO. WHICH TICKETING OPEN. WE TAKE A LOOK AND THEN CONNECTED, THEN WHY THE WAY RESIDENT CAN UTILIZE A BRAND NEW BATHROOM. SO, SO, SO THE ISSUE OVER HERE I HEARD ABOUT, SO THEY WANT TO DO THE IN-HOUSE AND SOMEBODY COMPLAINING ABOUT OKAY. UM, OKAY. THEY, THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO DO IT. OKAY. THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING IF OUR PROBABLY WORK STAFF THAT WE HIRED AND FIXING THE STREET AND IS NOT QUALIFIED TO DO A BASIC THING. SO WHAT IS THE USE OF PUPPY WORK STAFF AND THE, IF EVERYTHING WOULD BE CONTRACTED OUT AND WHICH VERY EXPENSIVE CONTRACT. OKAY. NO MATTER WHAT WE GOT AN ISSUE IS SUPPOSEDLY WE HAVE A PRO PROBABLY WORK. OKAY. AND THE PROFESSIONAL IS A MAINTENANCE HELPING TO FIX OUR STREET. SO WHAT HAPPENED, WHY SUDDENLY SOME PEOPLE STOPPING FOR OUR CITY STAFF TO FIX THE PLOT PLUMBING. SO RATHER THAN THE TAXPAYER CAN UTILIZE THE BATHROOM, BY THE WAY, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION THROUGH THE CHAIR? IF I MAY, I WILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS YEARS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OF ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN LONGSTANDING AND THAT HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT IS RESPONSIBLE TO OUR TAXPAYERS [03:15:01] IN THE SENSE OF, UM, THE MONIES THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THEM VERSUS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS VERSUS THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO THE STAFF TO PROTECT THEM, VERSUS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THINGS IN A QUICK FASHION CHALLENGES IS THAT, AND THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE, BUT THIS IS JUST, UH, JUST A FACT. UM, YOU HAVE A NEW SET OF EYES COMING INTO THAT DIVISION TO THAT DEPARTMENT. THAT'S TAKING A LOOK WE'RE MANEUVERING AND DISCOVERING OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES, UM, TO AGAIN, BALANCE OR ACHIEVE THAT BALANCE TO WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC STAFF MEMBERS OR EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC SERVICES, STAFF MEMBERS, MAINTENANCE, STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE, WHO WOULD WANT TO GET THEIR HANDS IN, WHO, WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE AND TO, TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE COMMUNITY, TO OUR RESIDENTS, UM, THE PRIDE THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR WORKMANSHIP. AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT OPPORTUNITY. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN A FASHION THAT SAFE, BOTH, SOMEBODY FILED A COMPLAINT, SO STOP THESE THING. SO ONE OF THEM FIXED THE ISSUE AND THEN THEY STARTED WANTING TO DRAG THE ISSUE. SO I THINK THIS IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE. OKAY. WE HAVE INTERNAL ISSUE. OKAY. PEOPLE NOT FIXING THE PROBLEM AND PEOPLE CREATE A PLUG AND DIDN'T FIX THE PROBLEM. AND NOW CHECKING THE PUB AND BECAUSE THIS HAS HAPPENED. OKAY. AND THE IN END OF NOVEMBER. OKAY. AND THEN WE FILED A PLA EARLY DECEMBER. AND HOW CAN THAT BE FIXED? CAN YOU HAVE YOUR HOME WITHOUT THE TOILET FOR THREE MONTHS? I DON'T THINK SO. AND YOU JUST CONNECT OKAY. ON THE STREET. I THINK THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SEEK, TREAT. THIS ARE STILL HOME HOME RIGHT THEN. OKAY. AND TREATED THIS JUST ANOTHER DAY. SO ACCOUNTABILITY. WE REALLY WANT CITY MANAGER. OKAY. YOU HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. SO MANY. YOU HAVE THE FINES WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. OKAY. AND JUST LIKE LAST TIME, THE SHAD, SHAD, THE OAKS COMMUNITY, A SERVICE CENTER, WE ALLOW, WE ALLOW EVEN NOTIFY THE COUNCIL. THEY SHUT IT DOWN. WHY DID THEY NOTIFY THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR? WHAT? DIDN'T NOTIFY THE CITY MANAGER. SO I THINK WE HAVE A, OKAY. THE SCREW IS KIND OF A LOOSE. OKAY. AND, UH, IN ANY COMPANY, OKAY. THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE. SO WE REALLY WANT ACCOUNTABILITY. OKAY. AND IT'S SHOWING TO ALL PUBLIC WORK. IF WE EVERYTHING CONTRACT OUT, THEN WHY WE NEED THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, WHY WE HIRE 10 ADDITIONAL PROWL. OKAY. AND THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE. OKAY. AND IF EVERYTHING HAD TO CONTRACT OUT AND 10 WHO WERE COSTS CT POSSIBLE, WE DON'T NEED A STAFF. AND THAT IS WHAT OUR INTENTION OF A COUNCIL. SO WHY. OKAY. WE, SOMEBODY WANTS TO IN SIX COUNTRY WITH 98,000, I HIRE MY OKAY. PERSON TO OKAY. CONNECT. IT'S ONLY LIKE THREE, $4,000. LET'S SAY, GIVE A THREE TIME FULL TIME, NESTEA, LESS THAN $15,000. HOW CAN THAT BE? $98,000 ON THIS CONTRACT. SO WOULD YOU PLEASE FIND OUT WHAT'S THE REASON THE CONTRACT WOULD BE EXPENSE SO EXPENSIVE AND DRAGGING SO LONG? GO AHEAD. THE, THE CHAIR I'M MEAN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. UM, WE CAN ASK FOR THE COST BREAKDOWNS, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT WHERE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT BECAUSE THERE WERE VARIOUS BIDS, YOU KNOW, UM, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AT THE END OF THE DAY. I THINK WE NEED TO, WE WANT TO PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS WITH THE BEST VALUE, WHATEVER THE BEST VALUE IS. AND IN THE MOST RESPONSIBLE FASHION, WE NEED TO FIX THIS CONNECTION. OKAY. AND THE OTHER COUNSEL OR RESIDENT, JUST ONE WORKING BATHROOM THAT THEY'D BEEN REQUEST FOR 30 YEARS. FINALLY, WE INSTALLED A BATHROOM, BUT THE CONNECTION IS NOT THERE. THEN MEGA CONNECTION. SO PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE. IT'S SO SIMPLE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY. OKAY. IS SWITCH TRACKING. SO, SO PLEASE HAVE OUR STAFF TO GET IT DONE. NO MATTER YOU ALL TO DO THE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACT, THE MONEY OKAY. IS PROPER. OKAY. SECOND THING. IF SOMEBODY SAY WE NEED TO CERTIFY, I THINK IT'S BOGUS BECAUSE THEY TAKE A DISTRICT ALL THE TIME. OKAY. AND THEN WHY WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WE DUNDON IS UNNECESSARY. OKAY. AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S NOT HAPPY ONE TO FIGHT THE COMPLAINT AND THAT IT BECOME AN ISSUE. GO AHEAD. I THINK COUNCILMAN WU, I THINK YOU'VE HIT ON SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY TIMELY. I THINK COME WITH PRIDE OF WORKMANSHIP. I THINK ALSO COMES RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. [03:20:02] SO I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I MET ALL THE, MOST OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC WORK. THEY VERY PROUD OF THEIR JOB AND THEY TOLD ME THEY CAN DO IT. I DON'T KNOW WHY SUDDENLY SOMEBODY STOPPED IN TO DOING THE VERY EASY TASK. SO, SO, SO, SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT THE INVESTIGATION WE WANT TO MAKE SURE. OKAY. W OKAY. WHERE'S, DIDN'T GET THE PROPER, OKAY. INVESTMENT FOR THEIR STAFF, PAY THE SALARY AND THE, WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKING BATHROOM. IS IT AS JOKE? OKAY. YOU HAVE BRAND NEW BATHROOMS AND YOU HAVE NO CONNECTION. HOW CAN THEY HAPPEN? OKAY. THAT IT'S REALLY RIDICULOUS. SO, OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO DRAG IN MORE TIME, BUT THESE THINGS SHOULD BE DONE. OKAY. AND A POTHOLE WHO IS DOING THE POTHOLE. OKAY. WHY DID SOMEBODY COMPLAIN? THE POTHOLE? ALL THE PLACES. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, OKAY. ALL THESE BASIC THAT WE HIRE THOSE PEOPLE, WHERE DO THE JOB FIX THE STREET. OKAY. AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ACCOUNTABILITY THAT LET'S, LET'S GET THIS UNCLE ACCOUNTABILITY BACK TO OUR, OKAY. PROUD PROBABLY WORK DEPARTMENT. OTHERWISE, WHY IS THE POINT? WE, WE HIRE 10 PEOPLE AND THEY DON'T AND NOTHING THEY CAN DO BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAD THE CONTRACT THERE'S THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. OKAY. AND, UH, I THINK WITH THE NEW LEADERSHIP, OKAY. TO THAT WE FORM A SHAKEUP LEAD PROBABLY WILL. OTHERWISE WE JUST DISMANTLE. OKAY. IF EVERYTHING WERE CONTRACT, THEN WHAT'S THE POINT TO HAVE A STAFF. OKAY. AND WE HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT, EVERY TIME OPEN HOUSE, WE SEE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL EQUIPMENT THAT SOMEBODY HAVE TO OPERATE. IT'S NOT JUST SHOWING TO US THAT WE HAVE EQUIPMENT, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK ON THE STREET AND MAKE SURE THE MAINTENANCE FIX OUR THING. SO ANYWAY, UH, HOW SO WE CAN GET THIS CONNECTION FIXED, PLEASE. IF YOU GIVE ME A T ESTIMATION DATE, NO MATTER WHY YOU WANT THE CONTRACT, OR YOU WANT TO USE IN-HOUSE. AND THEN I WANT TO HAVE A REPORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY WHO SCREWED THIS THING UP, WHAT IS THE CONSEQUENCE? SO ACCOUNTABILITY IS SHOW OUR CD STEP. IT CANNOT BE NO CONSEQUENCE TO THIS MAJOR HICCUP PURPOSELY, OR THIS IS INTENTIONALLY, OR THIS IS JUST INCOMPETENT. YOU GIVE ME A TIME THROUGH THE CHAIR. IF I MAY ALLOW US TO REGROUP WITH THE STAFF SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS WITH THE LEADERSHIP STAFF SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT I CAN TELL YOU AT THIS MOMENT. OKAY. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A BEDROOM. PEOPLE CAN USE FOR A WEEK, TWO WEEKS, LET US ADDRESS IT. AND WE'LL, WE WILL RESPOND BACK TO YOU. WE, WE, WE DO NEED TO REGROUP WITH THE STAFF, SO THAT, TO ASAP UNDERSTANDING, OTHERWISE WE WILL AT STUPID BATHROOM. OKAY. IT'S THE VIEW IS NOT WORKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, YOU OKAY? OKAY. UH, OKAY. UH, ON THE LIGHT A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER NOTE, WON'T BE SO BRUTAL. OKAY. NOT OKAY. I, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A FRUSTRATION TO HAVE A NEW BATHROOM. WE WENT, AND THEN NOW IT'S NOW WORKING FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. IT IS, IS REALLY, REALLY A DISAPPOINTMENT, A MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT. WE SEE THE UNION. THEY'RE VERY HAPPY. THEY COME OVER HERE AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY FOR THEM, BUT THEY NEED TO PERFORM, OKAY. THEY NEED TO SHOW US WHAT THEY CAN DO. OKAY. AND, UH, I SH I SOLD THEM AND THE PARENT CARD. OKAY. OTHERS. OKAY. AND, UH, UH, WESTERN ROCK, WEST RUN ROW. THEY'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE IT VERY PRETTY. OKAY. AND THEY'RE MOVING ALL THE DIRECTION SO I CAN SEE THE PRI UH, WHITE, THIS ONE, LIKE THIS IS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. CLEANING UP THE STREET. OKAY. MAKE OURS. OKAY. AND CITY. BEAUTIFUL. OKAY. MAKE A FUNCTIONAL BATHROOM, MAKE OUR BATHROOM IN THE OTHER PARK. LOOK NICE. AND ESPECIALLY ALL 16 PARK, THE PARK HAS TO BE PRESENTED BOTH IN SAFE AND CLEAN. OKAY. I HOPE THE NEW LEADERSHIP CAN SHAKE UP THE OKAY. I'LL PROBABLY WALK. OKAY. SO WHO DOESN'T WANT TO WALK INTO A PLACE THAT THE FEW PRO PRO OKAY. SO THE, THE, THE, THE, THIS WILL BE, UH, 2023, THAT IS CENTENNIAL OF WEST COVINA IN 1923, WE SET UP OUR CT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD CELEBRATE THE HUNDRED YEARS. I THINK CT, OKAY. NEED TO HAVE A BANNER OR SOME KIND OF PROMOTION TO LET PEOPLE KNOW. WEST COVINA IS A LONGEVITY EXISTS FOR A HUNDRED YEARS AND DOING PRETTY GOOD. AND WE WANT TO SHOW THEM THE BEAUTIFUL FACE OR WEST COVINA. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE STREET AND MAKES YOU MAKE SURE I WAS TREATED LOOK NICE AND PARK NICE IS A PROUD CITY. SO, SO I WANT, WANNA [03:25:01] MAKE SURE ROXANNE, SINCE YOU IN CHARGE OF OUR COMMUNICATION AND THE WIZARD CITY MANAGER, I DON'T WANT TO SWEEP EVERYTHING TO, UH, YOU NEED TO TAKE LEADERSHIP. OKAY. AND, UH, TO MAKE SURE OUR HUNDRED YEARS OKAY. CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION THAT NEXT YEAR. OKAY. LET, WELL, LET PEOPLE KNOW WEST COVINA A HUNDRED YEARS OLD BIRTHDAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WOMB FOUND SAMANTHA ABOUT DUBAI. UH, THANK YOU. UH, MAYOR PRO TEM. UH, I HAVE A FEW FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS. UH, FIRST, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE HOMELESS COUNT AS A CITY MANAGER CARMONEY, UH, MENTIONED, UH, FEBRUARY 22ND, UH, EIGHT TO MIDNIGHT, UH, AT CAMERON PARK. UH, AGAIN, UH, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS. WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THERE. SO IF WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER, UH, THE, UH, OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, ASSEMBLY WOMAN, UH, BLANCA RUBIO'S OFFICE IS PARTICIPATING IN THE FEBRUARY FOOD DRIVE. UH, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR CANNED GOODS, UH, IN WEST COVINA. UH, THE SITE THAT THEY'VE, UM, UH, TARGETED FOR, FOR DROP-OFF OF CANS IS, UH, AT THE PLAZA WEST COVINA AT THE, UH, GREATER WEST COVINA BUSINESS ASSOCIATION NEXT TO JC PENNY. SO IF YOU WANT TO, UH, GIVE THOSE CANNED FOODS, UH, PLEASE, UH, DROP THEM OFF THERE. UH, AND LASTLY, UH, I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, THE PASSING OF, UM, UH, SOUTH HILLS, UH, GREAT, UH, MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PLAYER, UH, JEREMY GIAMBI, UH, AGAIN, UH, HE, HE MEANT A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, HE DID A LOT OF WORK WITH KIDS, UH, NOW, UH, QUITE A FEW, UH, YOUNG BASEBALL PLAYERS. UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIS PASSING AND, UH, AND WHAT A LOSS IT IS, UH, FOR THE NOT ONLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BASEBALL COMMUNITY, BUT OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN WEST COVINA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER, YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS A GYM MOTION TO, AS A MEMORY? YOU WANT TO DO IT? YEAH. SO IF, IF WE CAN, UH, ADJOURN THE MEETING IN THE NAME OF A JEREMY GMB. WELL, DURING THE MEETING, UNDER THE NAME OF JEREMY GIAMBI. OKAY. GOOD NIGHT, UM, MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.