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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, FOR FEBRUARY 8TH, 2020 TO 7:00 PM.
THIS MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.
NOW TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER MEDITATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEASE STAND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
WOULD IT BE LED BY VICE CHAIR LEWIS READY? BEGIN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PAULINA, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, PRESENT COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, ICE CHAIR LEWIS AND CHAIR SIERRA HERE
[1. Regular meeting, December 14, 2021 ]
TONIGHT.WE HAVE MINUTES FROM REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON DECEMBER 14TH, 2021.
DOES, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AND SUBMITTED AS SUBMITTED ORAL COMMUNICATIONS OR COMMUNICATIONS.
THIS IS THE TIME WHEN ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER WITHIN THE SCOPE OF DUTIES, ASSIGNED TO THE COMMISSION, RELATING TO NON AGENDIZED OR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. OTHER MATTERS INCLUDED ON THIS AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED WHEN THAT ITEM IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ALL ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, THE CHAIRPERSON MAY IMPOSE REASONABLE LIMITATIONS ON PUBLIC COMMENTS TO ASSURE AN ORDERLY AND TIMELY MEETING THE RALPH M. BROWN ACT LIMITS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS MEETING.
THAT'S YOUR COMMENTS MAY BE AGENDIZED FOR A FUTURE MEETING OR REFER TO STAFF.
THE COMMISSION MAY ASK QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION.
IF DESIRED AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE
[CONSENT CALENDAR ]
ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.THIS EVENING CONSENT CALENDARS ITEM IS EXTENSION OF TIME FOR TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 8, 2 7 8 FOR ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT AND O S 19 DASH THREE ONE AND 20 DASH THREE ONE AND SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW AND O S 19 DASH 49 AND 20 DASH 12 AT 24 45 RIO VERDE DRIVE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? CAN WE SHARE WILLIAMS? UM, NONE AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, NOT AT THIS TIME.
WELL NOW I'LL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING TONIGHT.
OH, I'M SURE WE WILL NEED A MOTION ON THAT CONSENT CALENDAR PLEASE.
ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO X FOR THE EXTENSION MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ALL SECOND.
UM, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, VICE CHAIR LEWIS AND CHAIR WAS SARAH AYE.
[3. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 21-07 ]
UH, PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PAULINA WHO PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT, JOANNE OR PLANNING MANAGER WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
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THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONE IN THE STATER BROTHERS SHOPPING CENTER.THE SHOPPING CENTER IS SURROUNDED BY A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
RESIDENTIAL USES ON ALL FOUR SIDES.
THE SUBJECT TENANT SPACE IS LOCATED IN NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
THE CUP IS FOR THE EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING VETERINARY CLINIC PICTURED ON THE PROJECTOR.
UM, THEY ARE EXPANDING INTO THE ADJACENT TENANT SPACE THAT'S CURRENTLY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY A, NOT AN EYEBROW THREADING SALON.
THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 6:30 PM.
AND THE VETERINARY CLINIC WILL PROVIDE GENERAL WELLNESS EXAMS, LABORATORY TESTS, UM, AND ALSO SELL, UM, RE RETAIL, UM, FOOD MEDICINE, AND SUPPLEMENTS FOR DOGS AND CATS.
THE AREA THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE UP ON THE PROJECTOR IS THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING VETERINARY CLINIC.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE EXPANDING IN THE ADJACENT TENNIS SPACE.
THE EXISTING SUITE IS 1,970 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THEY ARE ADDING 1,385 SQUARE FEET TO THE, THE USE IN THIS ALLOWS FOR TWO MORE, TWO EXTRA EXAM ROOMS, THE RELOCATION OF THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES AND THE SURGERY ROOM.
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS WITH, WITH PARKING WHEN, WHEN THIS ITEM WAS INITIALLY, UH, SUBMITTED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN, WHEN THEIR EXISTING TENANTS SPACE, UM, PRIOR TO THE, THEIR EXISTING VETERINARY CLINIC FROM OPENING AND THOSE, UM, PARKING CONCERNS HAVE BEEN MITIGATED BY ADD ADDING ADDITIONAL OPERATING CONDITIONS AND THOSE ADDITIONAL OPERATING CONDITIONS CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE ON, UM, TO THIS PARTICULAR, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, APPLICATION AND DISTANCE.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, VIZ, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL OPERATING CONDITION REQUIRING THAT THE VETERINARY CLINIC MONITOR THE PLANTERS IN THE PARKING LOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FREE OF PET WASTE.
AND STAFF WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT SINCE THE VETERINARY CLINIC HAD OPENED, STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED A SINGLE COMPLAINTS REGARDING PARKING AND THE OPERATION OF THE CLINIC IN ITSELF WITH THIS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 21 61 0 APPROVING CUP NUMBER 2107.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF REPORT.
DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL NOW OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE APPLICANT FRANK .
UH, MY NAME IS , I'M THE OPERATING MANAGER OF THE, OF THE VETERINARY CLINIC.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND INTO THIS EXISTING SUITE NEXT DOOR SO THAT WE CAN EXPAND OUR CAPABILITIES.
UM, THE EXISTING SPACE IS REALLY SMALL FOR, FOR A VETERINARY CLINIC.
AND SO WITH THE, WITH THE ADDITIONAL SPACE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO CONCURRENT SURGERIES.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO SERVE THE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SERVE MORE CLIENTS, UH, AND BETTER TAKE CARE OF THE PETS AND ANIMALS OF WEST COVINA.
UM, WE'RE HOPING TO CURRENTLY WE HAVE, AS, AS THE, AS THE, AS THE PREVIOUS SLIDE SHOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF EXAM ROOMS. WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE TWO MORE EXAM ROOMS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, INSTEAD OF HAVING ANYBODY, HAVING TO WAIT IN THE LOBBY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXAM ROOM TO BE WAITING TO BE GOING INTO, UM, AND, AND MOVING OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES FROM WHERE THEY ARE NOW INTO THE NEW AND EXISTING SUITE OPEN UP THAT SPACE.
SO WE CAN OPEN THEM UP FOR EXAM ROOMS, UH, AND IN OUR JARI SURGICAL SUITE IN THE NEW SPACE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, AS A STAFF HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SURE.
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OKAY.SO HEARING TESTIMONY FROM THOSE IN FAVOR, ARE THERE ANY HERE THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THE USE PERMIT, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? WELL, THERE'S NO REBUTTAL NITA CAUSE NOBODY OPPOSED YOU.
SO AT THIS TIME, UH, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OPEN THE DISCUSSION WITHIN THE COMMISSION AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY LAST THOUGHTS.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, NO COMMENTS.
UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IT'S GREAT THAT THIS, UM, THIS ANIMAL HOSPITAL IS EXPANDING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I, UM, UH, THINK THE OWNERSHIP FOR INVESTING BACK IN OUR CITY AND EXPANDING AND MAKING THIS RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO OUR RESIDENTS.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. SORRY.
COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, VICE CHAIR LEWIS AND CERBERUS.
THIS ACTION IS FINAL UNLESS APPEALED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
[4. 2021-2029 HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE ]
NON-HEARING ITEMS, WE HAVE TWO NON-HEARING ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER 4, 20 21 THROUGH 2029 HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE, UH, PAULINA WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.
WE HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER, DAVE CARBONI TONIGHT JOINING US, AND HE WILL BE PRESENTING THE REPORT REGARDING THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE.
GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC I'M DAVE CARMONEY, WEST COVINA CITY MANAGER.
WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A BRIEF UPDATE THIS EVENING ABOUT A MAJOR WORK IN PROGRESS.
IT'S A RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO TAKE ACTION TIME.
WE WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS.
AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, UM, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT EVERY CITY IN THIS STATE DEVELOP AND ADOPT A GENERAL PLAN.
THIS IS ONE OF THE SEVEN MANDATED ELEMENTS.
THE OTHER ONES ARE LAND USE, OPEN SPACE CONSERVATION HOUSING, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
CIRCULATION, NOISE AND SAFETY.
I THINK IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT IN THESE TIMES, HOUSING DOMINATES ALL ASPECTS OF URBAN PLANNING AND POLICY.
THIS IS A MAJOR SECTOR OF THE U S ECONOMY AND THE DOMINANT LAND USE IN ALMOST EVERY AMERICAN CITY.
GOOD QUALITY HOUSING IS THE FOUNDATION OF STABLE AND GOOD QUALITY COMMUNITIES AND HOUSING RELATED ISSUES PLAY A DOMINANT ROLE ON LOCAL LAND USE PLANNING AND POLICY EFFORTS GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT UPDATING A HOUSING ELEMENT CAN BE A LITTLE DAUNTING.
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, HCD PLAYS.
THE CRITICAL ROLE ATD HAS REVIEWED WEST COVINA IS HOUSING ELEMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW AND HAS BEEN, UM, PROVIDING WRITTEN FINDINGS BACK TO THE CITY, UM, SUFFICE TO SAY, WE HAVEN'T QUALIFIED IT YET.
H CDS APPROVAL WILL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE CITY CAN ADOPT THE HOUSING ELEMENT AS PART OF ITS OVERALL GENERAL PLAN.
THEIR LETTER BACK TO THE CITY IS A PART OF YOUR PACKET TONIGHT.
AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT WHEN YOU HAVE A MOMENT TO DO SO.
CAUSE IT'S VERY DETAILED STATE HCD HAS EMPHASIZED THIS IN TERMS OF STATE PRIORITIES, AND THEY'VE STAFFED UP TO HELP US WITH THAT.
THEY'VE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 15 STAFF MEMBERS.
SO, UM, THIS IS A NEW TIME WE'RE IN AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE A LOT MORE DETAILS AND A LOT MORE, UM, CERTAINTY IN TERMS OF WHAT WEST COVINA ON CANON WILL BE DOING.
WE KNOW THAT REVISIONS WILL BE REQUIRED.
A MAJOR POINT TO MADE IS THAT PUBLIC INPUT IS CRITICAL.
I BELIEVE THAT, UM, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND THE REQUIREMENT FOR, FOR THAT, UH, REALLY PRESENTS
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THIS COMMUNITY WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN A DIALOGUE, BOTH TO DEFINE PROBLEMS AND TO CREATE SOLUTIONS.THE INCLUSION OF COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, UH, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROCESS HELPS US ENSURE THAT APPROPRIATE STRATEGIES ARE MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY EVALUATED, DEVELOPED, AND IMPLEMENTED.
THIS IS WHERE WE ARE IN THE TIMELINE.
IN LATE 2020, WE HIRED JOHN DOUGLAS AND HIS FIRM TO ASSIST US WITH THIS PROCESS.
HE'S A VERY EXPERIENCED CONSULTANT HAS DONE THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES IN A NUMBER OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ALMOST A YEAR AGO IN MAY OF 21, YOU HAD A JOINT PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.
ON OCTOBER 27TH, WE HAD A TOWN HALL MEETING FOR COMMUNITY INPUT AND WE TURNED IN, WE SUBMITTED THE DRAFT HOUSING MOUNT HCD IN LATE NOVEMBER.
IT'S NOW JANUARY OF 22 AND WE'VE RECEIVED THEIR COMMENTS BACK AGAIN.
THOSE ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE TO-DO LIST IN FRONT OF US.
THIS NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES ALL THE NEEDED CHANGES.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ASKING YOU TO CRAFT THOSE FROM A STANDING START.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE JOHN DOUGLAS ON BOARD AND HE'S GOING TO BE BRINGING BACK SOME DRAFT, UM, RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE SUBMITTAL THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE STATE.
THEY'RE ASKING US TO, UM, EVALUATE THE CUMULATIVE FAILURES OF PREVIOUS PLANS USED TO BE, YOU'D GOT A PASS FOR THAT.
AND YOU'D SAY, WELL, THE WORLD STARTS TODAY AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO START PLANNING.
THEY WANT US TO EXPLAIN WHY WE DIDN'T ACHIEVE OUR GOALS THE LAST TIME AROUND.
THEY WANT US TO REALLY EMPHASIZE HOUSING NEEDS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THEY WANT US TO PAY ATTENTION TO FAIR HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT TRENDS AND TO HOUSEHOLD CHARACTERISTICS AND THE ABILITY OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS TO PAY FOR HOUSING.
THEY'RE GOING TO DRILL DOWN IN TERMS OF THE AVAILABLE LAND INVENTORY.
THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR GOVERNMENT CONSTRAINTS.
THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT NON-GOVERNMENTAL CONSTRAINTS, UM, THINGS LIKE FINANCING.
THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT SPECIAL NEEDS, HOUSING, HOUSING FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
THEY ALSO WANT US TO IDENTIFY WHAT LOW MOD HOUSING UNITS, RENTAL HOUSING UNITS, IT'S IN TOWN OR A JEOPARDY OF CONVERTING TO MARKET RATE HOUSING.
THEY, THEY SEE THOSE AS UNITS.
LAST ITEM C ON THEIR LIST IS HOUSING PROGRAMS. AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK US TO IDENTIFY SITES, TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US.
THEY WANT US TO ESPECIALLY, UM, EMPHASIZE WHAT PROGRAMS THE CITY CAN OFFER TO HELP DEVELOP HOUSING.
AND, UM, THEY WANT US AN ITEM D TO QUANTIFY OUR FIVE-YEAR OBJECTIVES.
THEY WANT US TO BE MORE SPECIFIC FOR TYPES OF HOUSING IN IT'S BY INCOME CATEGORY, ALL INCOME LEVELS.
THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT REHAB.
THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT CONSERVATION, AND THEN FINALLY THEY WANT US TO EMPHASIZE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
THEY'VE ASKED US TO HOLD WORKSHOPS, TO ISSUE SURVEYS, THE WHOLE PUBLIC MEETINGS ON, UM, WEEKENDS OR UNTRADITIONAL TIMES EVENINGS.
THEY WANT US TO SEND OUT NEWSLETTERS.
THEY WANT US TO TELL OUR STORY AT NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS.
THEY WANT US TO OFFER TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CONVERSE IN OTHER LANGUAGES.
AND, UM, AGAIN, OUR CONSULTANT, JOHN DOUGLAS IS GOING TO BE HELPING US WITH, UM, A RESPONSE TO ALL OF THESE STATE SUGGESTIONS.
FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF CONSEQUENCES OF NON-COMPLIANCE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM BECAUSE THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS MANDATORY IN THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.
THEY COULD DEEM THAT OUR ENTIRE GENERAL PLAN WAS INADEQUATE.
IF WE DON'T HAVE A VALID HOUSING ELEMENT, AS PART OF IT, THE CITY COULD BE VULNERABLE TO LITIGATION FROM HOUSING RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS, DEVELOPERS, STATE, HCD, AND OTHERS.
UM, WE JUST GOT A LETTER TODAY FROM A SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP THAT WAS WANTING TO REMIND US OF THE NEED FOR A UNION BUILT HOUSING.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF, LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE, UM, UM, INPUT FOR US AS WE GO ALONG.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IF WE DON'T ADOPT A VALID HOUSING ELEMENT, THAT WE WOULD LOSE OUR PERMITTING AUTHORITY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, UM, THE COURTS WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THAT FROM US AND TO ISSUE PERMITS UNDER THE COURT'S JURISDICTION.
OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE ON THE THING LIST OF, OF BAD OUTCOMES FOR WEST COVINA.
UM, THERE COULD BE FINANCIAL PENALTIES, ULTIMATELY THE CITY MIGHT APPOINT AN AGENT TO, TO HANDLE THIS AS A COURT RECEIVERSHIP.
AND, UH, FINALLY THE CITY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR DIFFERENT, UH, LOANS AND GRANTS AND AID WITH THAT.
UM, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS, IF YOU HAVE ANY, AND, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO RETURNING AT A FUTURE NIGHT WITH SOME DETAILED SUGGESTIONS ABOUT REVISIONS THAT ARE NEEDED.
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YES.I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ACTUALLY.
SO WHAT, WHAT KIND OF FINANCING OPTIONS ARE ACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA? I MEAN, AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IS THIS SORT OF A PRAYERFUL SORT OF SUBMISSION HERE OR IS THIS, UH, OR, OR IS THERE ACTUALLY SOME PROGRAM THAT MONEY'S GOING TO RAIN DOWN FOR PURPOSES OF FINANCING, THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, UH, LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSING PROJECTS IN YOUR HOUSING ALONG THOSE LINES, UM, YOU KNOW, POST A REDEVELOPMENT, UH, HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK? WELL, UM, HOUSING FINANCING IS NEVER EASY, ALTHOUGH THESE ARE GOOD TIMES FOR INTEREST RATES.
AND SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF NEW HOUSING STOCK THE GROUND.
NOW IT'S REALLY HEARTENING TO US HOUSING FOR OUR FINANCING FOR HOUSING FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME IS ALWAYS A COMBINATION, INDEED, A COLLISION OF DIFFERENT FUNDING PACKAGES.
THE STATE HAS, UM, BONDS AVAILABLE.
WE COULD COMPETE FOR, UM, TAX CREDIT FINANCINGS, AND THE CITY HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, PARTICIPATING IN THOSE ON A PASS-THROUGH BASIS.
WE HAVEN'T PLEDGED THE FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY, BUT WE HAVE ENDORSED PROJECT APPLICATIONS AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT THAT.
THERE'S ALSO SOME FEDERAL MONEY I'M JUST PLEASANTLY SHOCKED THESE DAYS AT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SUDDENLY AVAILABLE FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
AND SO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND OTHERS IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC, UM, OPPORTUNITIES, WE'LL BE PURSUING THOSE AS WELL.
BUT WHAT WE'LL RETURN WITH IS A LIST OF ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, SECTION EIGHT HOUSING ASSISTANCE, PAYMENT PROGRAM, STATE TAX CREDITS, FEDERAL MONIES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LIST AS LONG AS BOTH ARMS, BUT, UM, THERE IS MONEY OUT THERE.
IT DOES REQUIRE A HIGH LEVEL OF, OF ENERGY AND A COMMITMENT BY THE CITY TO PURSUE THOSE.
SO, UM, I GUESS THAT'S, UM, ON OUR, ON OUR TO-DO LIST, I'LL BELIEVE IT, WHEN I SEE IT, I HAD A QUESTION, UM, I DID NOTICE IN H CDS COMMENTS THAT THEY ARE INDICATING THAT THE CITY'S GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT REDOING THEIR, UM, ADA ADU ADU UNIT, UM, ORDINANCE, WELL, THE STATE ISN'T GOING TO GET EVERYTHING THEY WANT IN THIS PROCESS AND NEITHER ARE WE OKAY.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE ADU ORDINANCE THAT WAS CONSIDERED AND ADOPTED, UM, WAS, WAS VETTED PERIOD CAREFULLY BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
I'LL BE INTERESTED IN THEIR COMMENTS ONCE WE GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT.
BUT, UM, THERE COULD BE SOME NEGOTIATION INVOLVED TO GET TO A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT.
I THINK THE MAIN REASON WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOU TONIGHT IS THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC AND CERTAINLY THE COMMISSION IS AWARE OF, OF THE STATE'S CONCERNS.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT, UM, IN ANY WAY SURPRISED WHEN WE RETURN WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS.
WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING WITH THE VICE CHAIR LEWIS REGARDING INTEREST RATES, WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT LOANS TO THE CITY OR LOANS TO, TO BUYERS OR TO, UM, I WAS SPEAKING TO, UM, LOANS AVAILABLE TO DEVELOPERS FOR, FOR, FOR LAND ACQUISITION AND TAKE DOWN AND ALSO TO HOME BUYERS, WE'RE AT A PERIOD OF HISTORICALLY LOW MORTGAGE FINANCE RATES.
AND I THINK THAT'S HELPED US GET A LOT OF, A LOT OF PROJECTS OUT OF THE GROUND.
WELL, BEING IN MORTGAGE RATES HAVE ACTUALLY INCREASED AND PROBABLY WE'LL SEE ANOTHER INCREASE BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO PROBABLY IN THE NEXT SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS TO PROBABLY SLOW DOWN.
SO THAT BEING SAID, MY QUESTION WAS, WOULD THEY HAVE A PROGRAM TO, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WILL HELP FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS WITH LENDING THEM TO DOWN PAYMENT OR GIFTING IT TO THEM AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, MAYBE THEY, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANTED FOR OUR CITY, THAT THERE COULD BE A PROGRAM WHERE THEY COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, TO HELP US PUSH THAT.
I MEAN, IF THEY WANT US TO GIVE PROPERTY AWAY, THEY CAN, MAYBE THEY CAN KICK IN.
WELL, UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE CARROTS AND THERE ARE STICKS.
THERE ARE INCENTIVES AND THERE ARE PENALTIES.
I KNOW THE LAST TWO OR THREE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THIS CITY, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO, TO HELP WITH BUYER, UM, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE
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OR IN OTHER WAYS, UM, SOME CITIES HAVE INCLUSIONARY POLICIES WHERE THEY REQUIRE THAT JUST A CERTAIN FIXED PERCENTAGE, A MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF PERCENTAGE OF UNITS OR AVAILABLE PEOPLE OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME ITEMS ARE AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE.AND THEY'RE NOT DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE ARE NOT ALLOWED THEIR CLOSING COSTS CREDIT.
UM, SO WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE IS GOING TO REQUIRE OF US, BUT WE KNOW, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE IN FOR A BIT OF A CHALLENGE.
SO NOW WE CAN ASK FOR A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE FILE.
OH, IT TH THAT WOULD BE AT THE PREROGATIVE OF THE CHAIR, BUT I THINK WE WOULD WELCOME THAT.
AS I'VE ADDRESSED MANY TIMES ABOUT A PLANNING DIRECTOR BEING IN PLACE, UH, OBVIOUSLY I READ THE LETTER AND, UH, UH, IT LOOKED LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH THEY THANKED US FOR RESPONDING, THERE WAS A FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY WHAT THEY REQUIRED.
SO I HOPE THAT THE CITY MANAGER NOW PLACES THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT A PLANNING DIRECTOR WOULD BE AND HOW BENEFICIAL IT WOULD BE TO THIS DEPARTMENT, UH, IN DIRECTION AND GUIDING THE PERSON WITH THE EDUCATION AND BACKGROUND, LIKE A PLANNING DIRECTOR IS SO IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY SUBCONTRACTING TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT YOU MENTIONED JUST IN RECENT TIMES, WE'VE BEEN WITHOUT MR. ANDERSON FOR TWO YEARS NOW.
SO, UH, CONTRARY TO WHAT THE COUNCIL SAID, IF IT AIN'T FIC, OR IF IT AIN'T BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT.
IT IS BROKEN AND THE STATE IS POINTING THAT OUT.
SO LET'S HOPE WE MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE SOME MONEY, OR MAKE SOME ROOM SOMETHING FOR A HIRING OF A PLANNING DIRECTOR BECAUSE THESE GUYS WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT.
THESE GUYS WOULD BENEFIT AND OUR CITY WOULD BENEFIT.
THAT IS I ACTUALLY, I AGREE WITH THAT, THAT ALSO, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WEST COVINA LYNN HERE, WE KNOW WE WERE BUILT OUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE LIMITED, BUT IF THEY COULD PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE TO HELP US TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO BE, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE WOULD BE HAPPY.
SO AT THIS POINT, CAN WE ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION RECEIVING FILE? AND SECOND, THE MOTION IS THAT A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
AND, UH, AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION TO, UH, CITY MANAGER.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE EXPERIENCE OF THE, OF THE CONSULTING FIRM THAT WE'RE USING AND THEIR BACKGROUND AND ALL THEIR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN DEVELOPING PLANS LIKE THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, AND ALSO, UM, EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE'RE IT IS PART OF THE PROCESS IN WHEN THE STATE WRITES LETTERS TO CITIES LIKE OURS, IS THAT IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS AND DEVELOPING THE NEW STRATEGY AND PLAN FOR OUR CITY FOR YEARS TO COME.
AND THAT, THAT THIS GUIDANCE IS GOING TO HELP OUR CITY DEVELOP FUTURE PLANS AND WITH THE HELP OF OUR CONSULTANT.
SO IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR BACKGROUND, UM, THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY.
JOHN DOUGLAS IS A VERY EXPERIENCED, UM, URBAN PLANNING, PROFESSIONAL, WHO SPECIALIZED IN HOUSING ELEMENTS IN CALIFORNIA.
HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
UM, I'VE BEEN A CITY MANAGER IN THIS COUNTY SINCE 1987.
I'VE USED HIM FOR THREE OR FOUR HOUSING ELEMENTS.
AND, UM, AMONG HIS GIFTS, I THINK HE'LL HELP WEST COVINA DEVELOP A PLAN THAT JUST ISN'T A COOKIE CUTTER PLAN, BUT A PLAN IN WHICH YOU ACTUALLY SEE WEST COVINA AND, AND SOLUTIONS THAT ARE RIGHT FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
I KNOW, UM, MAYBE IT'S JUST A CASE OF MISERY LOVING COMPANY, BUT WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT AS A LOT OF CITIES, 400 AND CITIES IN THE STATE AND IN 88 CITIES IN THIS COUNTY, IT'S JUST A DOZEN OR SO NOW THAT HAVE QUALIFYING HOUSING ELEMENTS.
SO EVERYBODY'S IN THE SAME BOAT EVERYBODY'S RECEIVING THIS MUCH ATTENTION AND THE RULES HAVE CHANGED.
THE RULES HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE THE STATE HAS PRIORITIZED HOUSING AS A, AS A MAJOR STATEWIDE ISSUE AND ISSUE OF STATEWIDE CONCERN.
SO WE WILL, UM, WORK CLOSELY WITH, WITH JOHN DOUGLAS AND RETURN TO YOU WITH A PACKAGE THAT, THAT WE THINK WILL QUALIFY FOR STATE APPROVAL AND WILL MAKE SENSE FOR WEST COVINA.
S HAS, WAS HE JUST THE FIRST CHOICE THAT OUR ONLY CHOICE, OR WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WAS INTERVIEWED FOR THIS POSITION? UM, WELL MAYBE
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OUR PLANNING MANAGER CAN HELP ME, BUT I DO KNOW WHEN WE SECURE CONSULTANT SERVICES, WE ISSUE AN RFP AND INVITE QUALIFIED FIRMS TO SUBMIT, AND WE INTERVIEW FIRMS. HE WAS THE TOP RANKED FIRM AND THEREFORE THE RECOMMENDED FROM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MUTARE.SO, UM, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, I, MICHELLE GUTIERREZ, UH, VICE-CHAIR LEWIS CHAIR WAS SARAH AYE.
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OKAY.SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT NUMBER 21 DASH 24, PAULINA WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.
JOANNE WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT.
I MEAN, MIKE WAS OFF THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONE IN THE VARNEY SHOPPING CENTER, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF AZUSA AVENUE BETWEEN ROLAND AVENUE AND FEL BORNS STREET.
THE SHOPPING CENTER IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ON THE EAST.
UM, SOME SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE NORTH AND COMMERCIAL USES ON THE WEST, ALSO ON THE NORTH AND COMMERCIAL USES ON THE SOUTH.
THE SUBJECT TENANT SPACE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE LINE PAD BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
AND IT WAS FORMERLY OCCUPIED BY ASSUME BUS STUDIO, AS PART OF THE AUP ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT PROCESS STAFF, UM, SENT OUT A NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTIES AND OCCUPANTS WITHIN 300 FEET FROM THE PROJECT SITE, INFORMING THEM OF THE RECEIPT OF THE APPLICATION.
THE HEARING, UM, TONIGHT IS BEING HELD BECAUSE AS PART OF THE PROCESS, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, UM, SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THE CITY REQUESTING A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE OF CONCERNS.
SO THE, THE LETTER THAT THE LETTER, UM, THAT STAFF DID RECEIVE FROM THE NEIGHBOR HAD CONCERNS RELATED TO NOISE, WATER, RUNOFF, AND DRAINAGE PULL CHEMICAL BOTTLE DISPOSAL, UH, THE, THE TENANT SPACE CAPACITY AND THE POTENTIAL FOR PARTIES AND ALCOHOL USE A COPY OF THIS LETTER HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA PACKET FOR THIS HEARING, I, FOR THIS ITEM AND THE, THE, UM, THE CONCERNED NEIGHBOR IS HERE AT THE MEETING TONIGHT, THE, THE PROJECT IS FOR A SWIM SCHOOL.
THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 9:00 AM TO 9:00 PM, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY FROM 9:00 AM TO 6:00 PM.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, ALTHOUGH THESE ARE THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION, THE HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD CHANGE DEPENDENT ON THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL YEAR, UM, BECAUSE MOST OF THE ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT WILL SERVE THEIR CLIENTS, OUR SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN TO, TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, CONCERN STAFF DID ADD CONDITIONS OF ADDITIONAL OPERATING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, RE UH, IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION.
AND, UH, UH, THEY INCLUDE PROHIBITING THE DRAINAGE OF PULL WATER INTO THE ALLEY FOR, UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM RENTING OUT THE TENANT SPACE OR THE SWIM, ANY PART OF THIS WAY AND PULL AREA FOR PARTIES OR OPERATING AS A PUBLIC POLL PUBLIC.
UH, SINCE THE, SINCE THE CONDITIONAL USE, SINCE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT APPLICATION IS FOR US ONE SCHOOL AND NOT A PUBLIC POOL, NO AMPLIFIED SOUND OR OUT OF, UM, SHOULD BE OUT OF AUDIBLE FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE TENANT SPACE.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO KEEP ALL DOORS CLOSED DURING OPERATE DURING THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
AND THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION HAS BEEN KEPT, KEPT ON, UM, OR INCLUDED IN THIS RESOLUTION, MAINLY BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM EXPERIENCE FROM THE PRE PREVIOUS USE,
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WHICH WAS ASSUMED THE STUDIO.THEY ALWAYS HAD THEIR DOOR OPEN AND THEY HAD MUSIC BLASTING AT ALL TIMES, AND THEY, THEY WERE NOT GOOD NEIGHBORS.
SO IT THAT THE NOISE BOTHERED, UM, THE, THE, UM, RESIDENTS LIVING TO THE EAST OF THE SITE, UM, AND THE SPEAKERS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE FRONT.
THE CITY WILL ALSO MONITOR ANY COMPLAINTS AND FORWARD, UM, THE ITEM FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW, UM, WHEN EXCESSIVE COMPLAINTS ARE RECEIVED IN THIS, THIS PARTICULAR POINT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN THE PREVIOUS ZOOMBA STUDIO.
SO STAFF STAFF DID NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BRING IT UP UNLESS IT WAS FOR, UM, UNLESS IT'S, IT WAS TO BASICALLY RE REVOKE THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
AND IT DIDN'T GET TO THAT POINT BECAUSE THEY KEPT ON CHANGING OWNERSHIPS.
AND THEN ANOTHER ITEM IS THE CA THE CAPACITY LIMITATION, THE PR, UM, BECAUSE OF PARK, BECAUSE OF PARKING LIMITATIONS, THE SITES WOULD BE LIMITED TO 24 OCCUPANTS AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
HOWEVER, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN THEIR PROJECT PLANS, THEY INCLUDED CAPACITY OF 4, 4 15.
AND THIS WAS BASED ON THE ARCHITECTS OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE BUILDING CODE.
THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRED, UM, LIMITING THE OCCUPANTS OF 24 OR THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED BY THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE, WHICHEVER IS LESS HERE'S THE, FOR THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN, THIS WOMEN PULL WOULD BE, UM, LARGELY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TENANT SPACE AND WOULD OCCUPY THE MAJORITY OF THE TENANT SPACE, THEIR RECEPTION AREAS TOWARDS THE FRONT AND CHANGING ROOMS, THE BATHROOMS AND THE STORAGE AREA, WHICH STORES, THE MECHANIC, THE POOL EQUIPMENT AND MECHANICAL COMPONENTS OF THE TENANT SPACE.
UM, UH, FIRST PHOTOGRAPH ON THE LEFT IS OF, THIS IS THE SUB SITE RIGHT ALONG HERE.
UM, IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO FISH WORLD.
AND OOPS, AND TO THE RIGHT IS A PHOTOGRAPH BEHIND THAT TENANT'S SPACE OF, OF THE BACK DOOR AND THE ALLEY.
JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE ALLEY, IT, UM, IT ABUTS TO SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS WITH THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION 21 DASH 6 1 0 1, APPROVING AEP NUMBER 2107.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF VICE CHAIR LEWIS? OH, NOT AT THIS TIME.
I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, RIGHT.
UH, SO WITH REGARD TO THE STANDARD, THAT SEEMS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE NEW RECOMMENDED, UH, DISPOSITION OF THIS, UM, IS W WHAT'S WHAT'S THE STANDARD WITH REGARD TO, UH, EXCESSIVE COMPLAINTS? WHAT, WHAT ARE THE CITY STANDARDS IN THAT IS THAT ONE CON IS LIKE TWO COMPLAINTS.
IF SOMEBODY COMPLAINS 10 TIMES, IS THAT CONSIDERED EXCESSIVE? I, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE DELINEATING THAT? UM, I WOULD SAY I WOULD, I CONSIDER A THREE OR MORE COMPLAINTS EXCESSIVE.
UM, IF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WENT OUT THERE TO LET THE, THE OPERATOR KNOW THAT THAT, UM, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS AND THOSE CONCERNS ARE NOT ADDRESSED, UM, AND THEY KEEP ON REPEATING ITSELF MORE THAN THREE OR MORE TIMES THAN I WOULD CONSIDER THAT AS, AS EXCESSIVE.
AND WHAT LET'S, LET'S ASSUME, HYPOTHETICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU GET COMPLAINTS FROM THE SAME PERSON THREE TIMES, IS THAT CONSIDERED EXCESSIVE? IF IT'S FOUR, I'M AT THREE DIFFERENT, UH, THREE DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND IF THERE IS SOME INVESTIGATION AND FOUND THAT THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE VALID, THEN YES.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEN WE'D HAVE, WE'D HAVE A HEARING
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ON IT.YOU WOULD HAVE A HEARING, IS THAT BY DEFAULT OR IS THAT AT THE DISCRETION OF PLANNING STAFF? UM, IT WOULD BE, UM, BY DISCRETION OF PLANNING STAFF BASED ON THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UM, AND THEN WITH REGARD TO INDOOR POOLS, UM, IN A COMMERCIAL SETTING, HAVE, HAVE WE EVER APPROVED ANYTHING LIKE THIS PREVIOUSLY? WE HAVE NOT.
NOT I'M IN SCHOOL, UM, UNDERSTOOD IN AN INDOOR POOL IN ANY CONTEXT, UM, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I'D HAVE TO, UM, DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE A FITNESS CENTER THAT HAS AN INDOOR SWIMMING POOL.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, WE DID APPROVE IT THROUGH GOLD'S GYM AT THE PLAZA WEST COVINA.
AND THERE'S ALSO ONE AT LA FITNESS, I THOUGHT TOO.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, SPILL OVER DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS AS, AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UH, AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, THERE IS, THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL PROHIBITING DRAINAGE FROM BEING DONE, UH, FOR, IN SPILLING OVER IN THE ALLEY.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS ANY GENERAL, UM, DRAINAGE, UM, IS CONCERNED, THAT WOULD BE A ENGINEERING ISSUE.
AND SO, SO ENGINEERING WILL, WILL ADDRESS DRAINAGE ISSUES IF THIS, UH, WITH, WITH REGARD TO, UM, WITH REGARD TO NOISE, UM, AS, AS WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THERE'S TWO OTHER INDOOR POOL SETTINGS THAT I CAN RECALL, BUT THEY WERE VERY LARGE, UH, VERY LARGE OCCUPANTS LA FITNESS SCHOOLS, GYM, OR VERY LARGE ESTABLISHMENT.
UM, THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN THAT.
SO, UH, MY, MY QUESTION IS, UM, OR ARE THERE ANY SOUND MITIGATION, UH, UM, PROTECTIONS THAT, THAT, THAT WE REQUIRE FOR INDOOR POOLS IN THIS CONTEXT, OTHER THAN THE, THE CONDITION, UM, PROHIBITING AMPLIFIED SOUND FROM BEING HEARD FROM THE OUTSIDE AND ALSO THE CONDITION REGARDING DECIBEL LIMITATIONS, UM, OTHER THAN THOSE, UM, THERE ISN'T ANY CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THEM TO INSTALL, UM, UH, I GUESS, A SOUND WALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAD ANY STANDARD ON THAT OR, OR WHETHER WE SHOULD, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP WITH A POOL IN, IN MY PARENTS' BACKYARD, WE OBVIOUSLY, UH, WATER MAKES A LOT OF NOISE IF YOU, UH, IF, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S SORT OF A, I DON'T KNOW, SOMEWHAT OF A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, BUT WE'LL ADDRESS THAT WITH THE APPLICANT.
I HAVE A CRUSH ON, SO HOW IS THE, HOW WOULD THE WATER BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE POOL AREA? THERE'LL BE SOME SORT OF BARRIER BETWEEN THE WALLS AND THE POOL.
THE, THE APPLICANT IS BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE APPLICANT, JOSH, WHEN I JUST HAVE SOME NOTES.
UH, I'M HERE WITH MY WIFE AND OUR PARTNER, CHARLENE GAL.
MY WIFE IS THE, UM, SWIM INSTRUCTOR.
SHE'S BEEN SWIMMING SINCE SHE WAS, UH, SIX YEARS OLD, UM, SWAM FOR COLLEGE, AND SHE'S BEEN TEACHING.
SHE TAUGHT SWIMMING IN JAPAN WHEN WE LIVED THERE AND THE PAST 10 YEARS SHE'S BEEN IN TRAVEL RETAIL.
AND, UM, SINCE COVID HIT, THAT REALLY IMPACTED HER INCOME.
SO WE WERE TALKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO OFFSET THAT LOSS? SO WE DECIDED TO TRY THIS VENTURE OUT.
AND, UM, BEFORE I EVEN DID ANYTHING, ANY CONTACT WITH ARCHITECTS OR CONTRACTORS OR ANYTHING, I DID MARKET RESEARCH.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY ONLY THREE MAJOR SWIM SCHOOLS IN LA COUNTY.
THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE FACILITY.
UH, THERE'S TWO IN RANCHO CUCAMONGA.
THERE'S, UM, IT'S CALLED AQUA TOTS AND PREMIERE AQUA TOTS.
IT'S ACTUALLY IN A RESIDENTIAL, UM, CENTER, UM, NOT A RESIDENTIAL, BUT A COMMERCIAL
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RETAIL CENTER.UM, AND, UH, THE OTHER SMALL SCHOOL THAT WE KNOW OF IS IN HACIENDA HEIGHTS.
AND SO WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY HAVE, THEY HAVE A WAITLIST AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR KIDS ARE WAITING AND TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL LIKE MY WIFE AND HER ARE SKILLS, SHE'LL BRING, YOU KNOW, A GOOD SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, TEACHING CHILDREN, UM, A GOOD LIFE SKILL, YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS A LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN CHILDREN IS DROWNING.
THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE WE HOPE TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, I'VE HEARD OF THE NOISE COMPLAINTS, YOU KNOW, FROM, YOU KNOW, OTHER RESIDENTS AND TENANTS IN THE BUILDING.
THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ZUMA SCHOOL AS WELL.
IT WAS A DISTURBANCE EVEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE DOING BUSINESS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A SWIM SCHOOL, WELL, WE HOPE TO OPERATE PRETTY MUCH LIKE ANY SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE KIDS, THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO RULES WHEN THEY'RE IN THE BUILDING, ESPECIALLY IT'S A POOL ENVIRONMENT, THEY'RE THERE TO LEARN SAFETY.
THEY'RE NOT THERE TO PLAY, AND THEY'RE NOT THERE TO RUN AROUND THE POOL AND GET HURT.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY CAUSE ME TO LOSE MY INSURANCE.
UM, OTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED DEVELOPMENT ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT OUR WEBSITE WAS A TEMPLATE THAT I USE FROM WIX.
SO IT HAD SOME THINGS ON THERE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT IT TO HAVE.
LIKE PRIVATE PARTIES IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ALLOWED ACCORDING TO THE INSURANCE, WE HAVE TO CARRY AS A SWIM SCHOOL.
UM, SO THERE'S NO PRIVATE PARTIES.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE LOUD MUSIC PLAYING.
IT'S PRIMARILY JUST GOING TO BE FOR INSTRUCTION TO CHILDREN AND ADULTS THAT WANT TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM FOR, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO LEARN A SKILL JUST FOR FITNESS, BECAUSE IT'S A LOW IMPACT, IT'S GOOD FOR YOUR BODY.
UM, SO NOT A LOT OF NOISE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT SPEAKERS ON THE WALLS TO BLAST MUSIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, NO BULLHORNS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FOR, YOU KNOW, TELLING EVERYBODY IT'S NOT GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO BE INDIVIDUAL CLASSES OF NO MORE THAN ONE TO THREE CHILDREN PER COACH.
AND WE MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAXIMUM THAT WOULD FIT IN THAT POOL WAS MAYBE SIX COACHES.
SO, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY ANYWHERE FROM NINE TO 18 KIDS AT MAXIMUM, THAT WILL BE IN THE FACILITY AT A TIME, UNLESS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE ADULTS THAT WILL BE THERE.
WILL THEY FIT TO WATCH THEIR CHILDREN? BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE PARENT HAS TO REMAIN ON SITE SO THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON MONITORING THAT THEIR CHILD ISN'T RUNNING AROUND AND WANTING TO HURT THEMSELVES.
UM, SO NO, NO RUNNING, YELLING AND NO LOUD VOICES IN THE, IN THE FACILITY.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SPLASHING, JUST, YOU KNOW, THE EXCEPT KICKING, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO JUMP IN.
THAT'S A BIG, A BIG, NO, IT'S NOT DEEP ENOUGH FOR THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THE BACK DOOR, MOST OF THE TIME, PROBABLY 95% OF THE TIME, UNLESS I NEED TO OPEN IT TO, YOU KNOW, LET SOME OF THE HUMIDITY OUT, WE HAVE, WE WILL HAVE A COMMERCIAL DEHUMIDIFIER TO KEEP HUMIDITY DOWN ANYWAYS, TO PREVENT MOLD.
UM, IT'S GOING TO STAY SHUT BECAUSE IN AN INDOOR SWIMMING POOL, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU KEEP THE TEMPERATURE AT A HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE WHEN YOU, WHEN THE TEMPERATURE DROPS TOO FAR IN THE, IN THE WATER'S WARM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF EVAPORATION, WHICH IS GOING TO CAUSE ENVIRONMENT TO BE UNHEALTHY.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A RECEPTION AREA IN THE FRONT BECAUSE THAT CLOSES OFF WHERE PEOPLE CAN WATCH THEIR KIDS.
IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THEM, UM, FULL EQUIPMENT.
UM, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE IN A CLOSET, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING CREW, CREATING A LOT OF NOISE.
AND THAT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, FOR SAFETY, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR EQUIPMENT AND PEOPLE, UM, WATER.
SO WATER DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EVEN EVEN A RESIDENTIAL PERSON WHO OWNS A POOL, CAN'T DRAIN THEIR WATER INTO THE STREET.
SO IT'S AGAINST CALIFORNIA LAW.
YOU KNOW, IF IT GOES INTO THE, UM, THE DRAINS ON THE STREET, IT COULD RUN INTO THE STREAMS TO THE OCEAN, LOOT THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE, WE'LL HAVE SEWER LINES.
IF WE HAVE TO BACKWASH THE, THE, UH, POOL FILTER, IT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE SEWER.
SO ANY WASTEWATER WILL GO INTO THERE AND AROUND THE POOL, I HEARD THE QUESTION FROM EARLIER, HOW DO WE CONTROL WATER GOING INTO THE WALLS? UM, THERE'LL BE A DRAIN ALL THE WAY.
UM, IT'S A TWO INCH DRAIN ALL THE WAY AROUND THE POOL.
SO THE WATER THAT SPLASHES OUT WILL GO INTO THE DRAIN AND GO, GO INTO THE SEWER LINE, UM, TRASH, UH, THE CHEMICAL BOTTLES, MOSTLY THE ONLY CHEMICALS WE WILL BE USING IS POURING AND MURIATIC ACID TO CONTROL PH AND BOTH OF THOSE ONCE THEY'RE EMPTY AND WE CAN RINSE THEM OUT, CRUSH THEM.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE.
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YOU SAY SOMETHING GOOD? SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT? UM, I DO.
I NOTICED THE PLANS THAT WERE PREPARED.
THE ARCHITECT INDICATED THEY WEREN'T TO SCALE.
WHAT'S THE ACTUAL WIDTH AND LENGTH OF THE POOL.
THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED INSIDE.
THE BUILDING IS 20 BY 60 FEET.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE DIMENSIONS THAT HE DID GIVE, HE INDICATED IT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT 30 FEET WIDE.
UH, THE SPACE IS 31 FEET AND THEN THE LENGTH OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE SPACE AND THE ACTUAL FLOOR PLAN IS 31 WIDE AND 99 FEET LONG.
AND THE POOL WILL BE 20 FEET WIDE AND 60 FEET LONG TO ALLOW FIVE FEET OF SPACE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE POOL.
CAUSE THAT'S AN, THAT'S ANOTHER, I THINK THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT REQUIRES THAT, UM, THAT WAS ANOTHER PERMIT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT FOR AS WELL AS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS TO APPROVE FOR THE POOL.
SO THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE IS THERE'S HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET ALL THE WAY AROUND, REMEMBER BEFORE.
AND I DID NOTICE ON THE FULLER PLAN THAT YOU SHOW TWO BATHROOMS AND THEN THERE'S A HALLWAY OR AN OPEN AREA THAT LEADS TO THE CHANGING ROOM.
SO THE CHANGING ROOM WOULD BE CO-ED OR BECAUSE I NOTICED YOUR AGE GROUPS ARE FROM THREE TO 18, UM, IT'S UM, COED, BUT THEY WILL BE INDIVIDUAL STALLS.
THAT'S WHAT OTHER SCHOOLS ARE DOING IN THE AREAS.
THEY HAVE A CHANGING ROOM AND IT'S LIKE HOW YOU WOULD GO INTO A FITTING ROOM AT A, AT A DEPARTMENT STORE.
THEY HAVE THOSE KIND OF FITTING ROOM DOORS AND, AND PEOPLE CAN CHANGE IN THERE.
SO THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE, UM, I FORGET WHAT THEY CALL IT UNISEX.
AND ONE OF THEM IS ADA COMPLIANT AND ONE OF OUR BATHROOMS IS AS WELL.
WOULD YOU EVER MAKE CLASSES AVAILABLE FOR SWIM TEAMS? UM, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, BUT IT'S REALLY DEPENDS ON IF THAT'S A BENCH OR MY WIFE WANTS TO TAKE ON, SHE HAS THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING ON A SWIM TEAM.
SHE JUST DOESN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE WANTS TO TAKE ON YET.
UH, WELL THE POOL HAVE A ABA ASSESSABLE, UH, LIFTS TO IT.
SO MY, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS W WAS RELATING TO, UH, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BUILD-OUT, I SUPPOSE, IS, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY SORT OF, UH, ADDITIONAL SOUND BARRIER OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN WITH REGARD TO THE, I BELIEVE THAT'D BE THE NORTHERN WALL PRIOR TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, ME HEARING ABOUT NOISE COMPLAINTS OF SCHOOL THAT WAS THERE BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, SOUND ECHOES OFF OF WALLS, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THIS ROOM, YOU CAN HEAR ECHOING.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SWIM SCHOOL, SO WE CAN'T BE SCREAMING WHILE WE'RE TEACHING KIDS.
HOW TO S EVERYBODY'S GOT TO KIND OF KEEP IT QUIET SO WE CAN HEAR EACH OTHER TALK.
UM, SO I HAVE CONSIDERED PUTTING SOUND, SOUND DAMPENING BOARDS ON THE LAWS TO PROVE TO PREVENT SOME OF THAT ECHOING.
I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S SIMILAR TO, LIKE, IF YOU HAD A TAEKWONDO STUDIO THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE HA YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, KIDS, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE IF YOU HAVE 18 KIDS IN THERE.
AND, AND I MEAN, THIS SEEMS TO ME LIKE A FAMILY, UM, BUSINESS WHERE YOU'RE ENCOURAGING FAMILIES TO BRING THEIR CHILDREN, LIKE YOU SAID, TO LEARN TO SWIM.
I MEAN, I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE I WAS FIVE IN WEST CAMINO, WE HAD THE PLUNGE AND ALL OF OUR FAMILY WENT AND HAD SWIMMING LESSONS.
AND I THINK IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT AS A CHILD TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHERE THERE'LL BE EVERY OTHER, EVERY THIRD HOUSE HAS A POOL.
BUT, UM, ANYWAYS, UH, SO THOSE ARE ALL THE, UH, QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE CONDITIONS, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY INDICATED FOR YOUR FACILITY.
IT WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE OVER 2,800, BUT I NOTICED ON YOUR PLANS, IT INDICATES IT'S 2,900, WHICH LITTLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SPACE IS 29, 89, ACCORDING TO THE LANDLORD.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY I DON'T SEE, UM, THERE'S, UH, KIM SUTLIFF, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR POST? OKAY.
SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR? OKAY.
THEN KIM AND KIM SAT WITH, AND THAT WAS WHEN I LIVE AT FOUR 13 NORTH OF WRITEUP.
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UNFORTUNATE PRIVILEGE OF BEING AT THE TOP OF THE HORSE SHOW THAT ALLEY.CAN'T UNDERSTAND TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
AND WE LIVE AT FOUR 13 NORTH CABRITA AND WE LIVE AT THE TOP OF THE HORSESHOE OF THAT ALLEY.
SO NOISE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE FACTOR.
AND FOR THE PAST, ALMOST 24 YEARS, WE'VE LEARNED THE HARD WAY.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I PUT THE LETTER OUT TO THE CITY AND ASKED FOR THE HEARING.
AND IF THREE COMPLAINTS WERE EXCESSIVE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD NINE YEARS OF THINGS.
UM, A LOT OF WHEN I SENT THE LETTER IN A LOT OF IT'S ADDRESSED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, THEY SAID THEY WON'T RENT OUT FOR PARTIES, BUT THAT MEANS WHAT ABOUT THEIR MEMBERS? IF THEY ALLOW THEM TO HAVE POOL PARTIES THAT BRINGS MORE NOISE.
CAUSE NOBODY JUST SITS IN A POOL.
UM, YOU'VE COVERED THE DRAINAGE AS FAR AS THE ALLEY OR THE FRONT.
IT WON'T GO ONTO THE STREET OR THE PARKING LOT.
I'M CONFUSED ON THE AMPLIFIED SOUND.
UM, I THINK SOME OF THESE THINGS WERE CUT AND PASTE FROM THE ZUMA'S ZUMBA'S PERMIT.
IT SAYS NEW NOISE AMPLIFIER WILL BE USED, BUT THEN IT ALSO SAYS AMPLIFIED SOUND WILL NOT BE WELL OVER A DECIMAL.
AND THEN LATER IT SAYS ANY SPEAKERS WILL FACE THE FRONT.
SO ALL THAT COUNTER DIXIE, EACH OTHER.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO CLARIFY THE SAY NOISE IS THE BIG FACTOR.
UM, LET'S SEE, THIS IS A TALK WITH NEIGHBORS.
I'M NOT SURE WHO ALL THEY TALK WITH, WHAT NEIGHBORS, EITHER SIDE OF US ARE A LITTLE MORE, THEY'RE NOT IN DIRECT LINE.
UM, OUR BIG THING WAS ZOOMBA WAS THEIR BASE AND THAT REVERBERATED THROUGH OUR HOUSE AND THAT, AND THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THEY DID.
SO AS I SAY, IF THREE COMPLAINTS, THE HOURS OF OPERATION WERE FOR THE ZUMBA, UM, THEY WENT WELL DURING THE DAY.
I DON'T KNOW I WAS AT WORK MOST OF THE TIME, BUT THEY WENT TO EIGHT OR NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND ON SATURDAYS.
AND THEN LET'S SAY MY CONCERN WITH THE PARTIES THAT THEY HELD FUNCTIONS OUTSIDE OF THEIR REALM.
SO STICKING WITH THIS, LET'S SAY IT'S THE, THE TRASH FACTOR THEY HAVE WHEN THE X COMPANY CAME IN, WE ADDRESSED THE TRASH BECAUSE, AND THE PEOPLE AT THE FISH STORE SAID THAT THE LANDLORD HAD TAKEN DUMPSTERS AWAY FROM THEM.
SO THERE WAS ALWAYS TRASH PILED BY THAT TRASH ENCLOSURE.
AND OUR CONCERN IS WITH THESE TYPE OF CONTAINERS THAT THEY CAN BE WASHED OUT RECYCLED AS LONG AS THEY DON'T END UP IN A PILE THERE, THE STUFF ENDS UP IN OUR YARDS FROM PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE ALLEY AND I'D RATHER NOT HAVE THOSE CONTAINERS COMING INTO THE YARD.
SO THAT WAS OUR CONCERN THAT THE DRAINERS YOU TALKED TO, AS FAR AS, UM, DOING, UM, STUFF ON THE WALLS FOR SOUND TALK TO THE GUY AT THE X DOOR HE HAD, WHEN HE WAS DOING THE THINGS HE INVITED ME OVER, I SAW WHAT HE DID AND WE'RE NOT THAT CLOSE TO HIM, BUT IT WASN'T BAD.
SO HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU THERE.
SO IF THAT IS THE CASE PEACHY, BUT THEN IT COMES, IS MUSIC INVOLVED THERE AND THAT'S JUST AGAIN TO THE NOISE, THE TEMPLATE.
AND THEN, UM, YOU TALK ABOUT PRESCHOOL CAMPS, UM, THAT STRICTLY INSIDE THE BUILDING, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THAT'S A GREAT ZOOMBA HAD A BOOTCAMP, WHICH WAS IN THE PARKING LOT ONE DAY.
SO AS LONG AS IT'S LIKE INSIDE THAT'S ICHI, NO, THE ONLY OTHER, UM, LIKE YOUR EQUIPMENT SOUND OR ON THAT HOPEFULLY WILL THAT CAN THE CINDER BLOCK A BUILDING, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
IT'S A CINDER BLOCK BUILDING AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE NOISE PROBLEM.
SO THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THE, WITH THE EQUIPMENT IN THAT, IF YOU CAN STILL IMPROVE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
NOW YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU COULD HAVE LIKE UP TO SIX COACHES WITH THREE KIDS THAT COME UP TO 18 AND THEIR PARENTS ARE THERE.
IF YOU WANT, YOU COULD ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN AFTER WE COULD HAVE HIM COME BACK AS A FOLLOW-UP SAVES TIME.
UM, HIS COAT OF HAVING SIX COACHES WITH THREE KIDS, POSSIBLY OF BUSINESS IS GOOD.
IT'S 18 WITH NINE PARENTS AND THEN SIX CO UM, AND THE COACHES NOW YOU'RE UP TO 33.
SO IF YOU STAY AT THE 24 CAPACITY AND, UM, THAT CUTS BACK
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YOUR BUSINESS AND WHATNOT, BUT OTHERWISE BASED ON WHAT IS WRITTEN OUT, IF THEY STICK TO THIS, I'M FINE.I MEAN, PEOPLE NEED BUSINESS, KIDS NEED TO LEARN TO SWIM.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANY OF THAT.
IT'S ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO THE NOISE FACTOR AND THAT, AND HOPEFULLY ALL GOES WELL.
CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I, I, I FOLLOWED EVERYTHING.
UM, BASED UPON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT YOU'RE ASKING THIS BODY TO CHANGE FROM THAT RECOMMENDATION? I'M QUESTIONING THE SPEAKERS WHEN THEY SAY NO AMPLIFICATION CAN BE USED, BUT THEN IT'S, AS I SAY, I THINK THAT WAS JUST TAKEN FROM THE PREVIOUS PERMIT AND STUFFED IN HERE.
SO THAT'S CONFUSING TO ME, BUT BASED ON THIS, THEY SEEM TO HAVE COVERED.
AND IF THEY COMPLY WITH ALL THAT AND IT ALL WORKS OUT, I DON'T HAVE AN OPPOSITION TO IT.
DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD ALREADY? YOU CAN FILL IT OUT AFTER.
I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ADA REQUIREMENTS, UM, IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO I'VE SPOKEN TO A COMMITTEE MEMBER FROM THE SAN GABRIEL POMONA REGIONAL CENTER, AND WE WERE LOOKING INTO DIFFERENT TYPES OF RECREATIONAL AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS FOR DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYED CHILDREN AND ADULTS.
UM, I HEARD THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT HE'S GOING TO PUT IN A LIFT.
IS THERE ALSO A RAMP WITH A HANDLEBAR IN THE POOL ITSELF TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE WITH DISABILITIES? THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT CAN BE ASKED TO COME BACK UP AND EXPLAIN.
DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE, THAT WAS IT.
SHE LIKED TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS.
SO, SO, SO ADDRESS TO, TO ADDRESS ADA COMPLIANCES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ADA COMPLIANT, BATHROOMS, CHANGING ROOMS. UM, THE PULL LIFT WILL BE ON, UM, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PLAN AND THERE WILL BE, UH, RAILS FOR BOTH UPSTAIRS AS WELL.
AND, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT, THAT WHEELCHAIR, THE WHEELCHAIR LIFT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT SWINGS OUT AND THEN SWINGS BACK IN AND IT LIFTS THE PERSON DOWN INTO THE WATER AND THERE ARE HANDLES THERE FOR THEM TO HOLD ON TO ON THAT LIFT.
SO, SO YOU ARE ALREADY IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE GENERAL DISABILITIES ACT REQUIRED.
IT'S STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH CITY HEALTH APPROVAL, BUT AS PART OF THE THING, IF I'M RUNNING A COMMERCIAL POOL, IT HAS TO BE ADA COMPLIANT.
THAT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE IS I HAVE TWO HOURS OF OPERATION BY HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PLANNING 9:00 AM TO SIX TO 9:00 PM.
UM, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND NINE, 9:00 AM TO 6:00 PM ON, ON WEEKENDS.
AND YOU KNOW THAT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO FLUCTUATE BASED ON OUR MARKET RESEARCH OF OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE AREA.
THERE ARE BUSY TIMES DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR IS THREE TO SEVEN OR THREE TO EIGHT AT THE MAXIMUM BECAUSE KIDS NEED TO GO HOME AND GO TO SLEEP AND GO TO GO TO SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY.
AND THEN, UH, MOST OF THE TIME DURING THE SUMMER, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE OUT DOING THINGS TOO LATE IN THE EVENING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY HAVE KIDS AT HOME, THEY WANT TO DO IT EARLY.
SO 9:00 AM TO 6:00 PM IS MOST LIKELY OUR HOURS DURING THE SUMMER.
PLUS WE DON'T WANT TO BE THERE AT 9:00 PM, 10:00 PM EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR, EITHER.
SO IT'LL, IT'LL FLUCTUATE, BUT I'M PLANNING ON KEEPING IT WITHIN THAT WINDOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, WILL YOU BE, AS YOU START THIS PROCESS ON AND, AND I WISH YOU MUCH SUCCESS IN THIS, IN THIS ENDEAVOR, UH, IS, IS SOMETHING LIKE, UH, DEVELOPING AN ADA, UH, MAYBE A CLASS OR SESSION THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE IDEA TO HAVE A CLASS JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS OUT THERE FOR, FOR, TO DEVELOP CLASSES LIKE THAT.
SO IT'LL BE A, YEAH, IT'D BE GREAT FOR YOU TO LOOK IN THAT, LOOK INTO DEVELOPING A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.
AND MY BACKGROUND AS A PERSON WITH AUTISM AND IN THE DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY COMMUNITY, I
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KNOW, UH, HAVING ACCESS AND KNOWING, UH, PROGRAMS LIKE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITIES IS VERY EMBRACED FUL TO OUR CITY.AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO, UH, I ALWAYS SEE OUR CITY WILL ALWAYS EMBRACE, UH, THOSE WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND, AND TO SEE HOW WE CAN EMBRACE YOUR NEW ENDEAVOR.
AND IF YOU CREATE A PROGRAM LIKE THAT AND HOW WE COULD, UH, HELP SPREAD THE WORD FOR IT.
DID YOU WANT TO COME UP AND I'M GOING TO BE THE COACH FOR THIS ONE SCHOOL.
SO, UM, FOR THE, SIR, YOU, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT, WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT I'VE, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
IT WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH KIDS, OR DO YOU WANT ADULT WITH A DISABILITY? CAUSE LIKE, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, IS THE VERY RARE TO FIND A SOMEWHERE LIKE HAVE THE PROGRAM.
SO I ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND ACTUALLY LOOKED INTO IT TOO, BUT, UM, HONESTLY I DO NEED A MORE EXPERIENCE FOR THAT, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO IT.
JUST NO WATER ZUMBA CLASSES, RIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THAT THEN? WE'RE DONE.
SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND WE CAN SEE IF WE HAVE A MOTION, MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION NUMBER 21 DASH 6 1 0 1, IMPROVING AUP PERMIT, UH, NUMBER 21 DASH 24.
WE HAVE A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 22 DASH 61 0 1.
UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. I COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, UH, VICE CHAIR LEWIS, UH, CHAIR BESERA AYE.
THIS DECISION MAY BE APPEALED BY THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS.
[COMMISSION REPORTS/COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS ]
WOULD ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO REPORT OR COMMENT ON AN ITEM? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? I HAVE NONE.GOOD CHAIRS, VICE CHAIR LEWIS.
WELL, AND ARE THEY ANY ITEMS TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION? UM, NO.
I THINK IT'S OUR FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION OF 2022.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING A SPRING FESTIVAL, UM, AT OUR SPORTSPLEX FACILITY, A MARCH 12TH AND THE 13TH.
IT'S A COLLABORATION WITH DIFFERENT NONPROFIT, UM, GROUPS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO ALL THAT INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEBSITE.
SO WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITY EVENT, UM, IN REGARDS TO, UH, OR I'LL LET YOU SAY THE NEXT PART.
SORRY, GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.
[7. CITY COUNCIL ACTION: ]
ARE THERE ANY, UM, COUNCIL, UH, ACTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO READ? WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COUNCIL ACTIONS, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE APPEAL FOR THE CELL TOWER LOCATED AT 35 40 WEST CAMERON WILL BE BEFORE THE COUNCIL, UM, ON FEBRUARY 15TH.SINCE, SO THERE, THERE ARE NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO CONSIDER.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 8:08 PM.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE TO EVERYBODY JERRY RIVERA.
HE IS OUR NEW ASSISTANT PLANNER.
EVERYONE ON MONITOR TO BE HERE.