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[Town Hall Meeting ]
COLLEAGUES AND GUESTS.WE WELCOME YOU TO OUR TOWN HALL MEETING.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK TONIGHT ABOUT SENATE BILL 1, 3 8, 3, JERRY PORTRAITS.
WOULD YOU APPROACH THE MICROPHONE AND LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEASE? WELL, IT'S YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
AND REPEAT AFTER ME, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UM, WELCOME TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO OUR COLLEAGUES.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT SENATE BILL 1, 3 8, 3.
WE'RE GOING TO GET AN OVERVIEW TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THESE STATE MANDATES.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE HEART OF THE MEETING, WHICH IS WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS WITH THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO WELCOME, UM, RYAN, JOE'S THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS FOR ATHENS AND HE HAS A BRIEF POWERPOINT.
WE HAVE COPIES OF THE PRESENTATION ON THE TABLE HERE IN THE FRONT, WHICH, UM, WE WILL PASS AROUND.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF FOR HELPING US TO, UH, FACILITATE THIS MEETING.
AND, UM, WE WILL, WE'LL START.
SO S UH, SENATE BILL 1383, UH, AS MR. CARMINE, HE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO A QUICK OVERVIEW.
WOULD YOU GUYS PREFER THE BRIAN'S GOING TO DO, COULD YOU USE THE MICROPHONE WORK? WE'RE BROADCASTING THIS AND RECORDING IT.
HI, I'M GARY CLIFFORD FROM ATHENS AND BRIAN JOS AND ASHLEY ROSADA.
YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE CAL RECYCLE BRIAN.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, JENNIFER WILDE FROM COWER CYCLE AS WELL TO GIVE A BALL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER THE FIRST SLIDE.
THEN I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO BRIAN, BUT IF YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A UNFUNDED, CALIFORNIA, LEGISLATIVE MANDATE.
I MEAN, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT ANY TRASH HAULER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CAME UP WITH.
THIS IS PART OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE ENVIRONMENTAL AND LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, WHERE THE SENATE AND ASSEMBLY VOTE ON LAWS THAT IMPACT THE WASTE AND RECYCLING INDUSTRY, AND TRY TO IMPROVE THE RECYCLING IN OUR STATE.
NO, YOU REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO I WAS UP HERE AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, AB 1594 AND AB 1826.
AND YOU AND WEST COVINA HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THAT, WHICH IS GOOD.
SOME CITIES DIDN'T DO THAT PROPERLY, BUT YOU'RE DOING YOUR GREEN WASTE APPROPRIATELY AT THE CURB.
AND WE'RE TAKING THAT AND COMPOSTING IT, AND YOUR BUSINESSES ARE DOING THEIR ORGANIC FOOD COMPOSTING, AND THAT HAS BEEN PAID FOR THAT.
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE STATE IS THE RESULTS OF THE STATEWIDE PROGRAM HAVE NOT BEEN AS EFFECTIVE AS THE STATE WANTED IT.
THE STATE WANTS SOME MORE OF THE FOOD WASTE TO NOT BE AT A LANDFILL.
SO AFTER AB 1594 AND AFTER AB 18 26, 15 94 WAS ON THE, THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AND THE COMMERCIAL SIDE 1826 WAS ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.
THEY PASSED A NEW LAW AND FINALIZED IT.
THAT'S CALLED SENATE BILL 1383 AND SIMPLY STATED, UH, SENATE BILL 1383 IS AN ORGANICS MANDATE.
THAT IS TO REMOVE ORGANIC WASTE FROM THE LANDFILLS.
AND THAT'S GOING TO NOW AFFECT THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO THE BIG CHANGE IN WEST COVINA WILL BE NOW THAT THE FOOD WASTE THAT YOU CURRENTLY PUT IN YOUR BLACK BARREL WILL NOW GO INTO YOUR GREEN BARREL WITH THE GRASS, ANYTHING THAT'S ORGANIC, THE FOOD, FOOD, SOIL, PAPER, ANYTHING THAT WILL BIODEGRADE
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WITH ORGANICS.AND THERE'LL BE A LIST OF WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE NOW GOING TO GO IN WITH THE GREEN.
THAT'S NOT AN ATHENS DECISION.
THAT'S NOT A WEST COVINA DECISION.
THAT'S NOT A WASTE MANAGEMENT DECISION THAT IS A STATE OF CALIFORNIA LAW.
SO WEST COVINA IS GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT LAW.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ATHENS MAKE SURE THAT WE DEVELOP A PROGRAM THAT WILL MAKE THIS CITY COMPLIANT WITH THIS SENATE BILL.
SO THERE'LL BE A CHANGE AS BRIAN WILL GO THROUGH THE SLIDES, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE IN HOW RESIDENTS DISPOSE OF ORGANIC WASTE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE IN HOW WE EDUCATE AND OUTREACH PEOPLE IN WEST COVINA.
THERE'S GOING TO BE AUDITS OF RESIDENTIAL ROUTES THAT ARE MANDATORY.
THERE'S GOING TO BE AUDITS OF COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL ROUTES THAT MANDATORY, AND THIS D AND THERE'S GOING TO BE WASTE CHARACTERIZATIONS.
WHEN OUR TRUCK GOES TO THE MURPH WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO PUT OUT A SERIES OF LITTLE BUNKERS, 30 OR 35 OF THEM, AND CATEGORIZE ALL THE WASTE IN THE TRUCK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAMS THAT WEST COVINA HAS IN PLACE ARE ACCOMPLISHING THE GOALS OF THE STATE.
NOW, THESE ARE ALL GOOD THINGS FROM A STANDPOINT OF RECYCLING AND RENEWING, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE MONEY THAN THE CURRENT PROGRAM AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO IS HELP EXPLAIN TO THE CITY WHAT THIS NEW LAW IS, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE COMPLY WITH THIS NEW LAW AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP EACH OTHER, TO MAKE SURE THAT WEST COVINA STAYS ON THE LEADING EDGE OF RECYCLING PROGRAMS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE REALLY GOOD ONES RIGHT NOW.
REMEMBER, WE DO MOST OF YOUR RECYCLING FOR YOU.
YOU GUYS SEPARATE YOUR GREEN WASTE FROM EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU GUYS ARE ALLOWED TO PUT BULKY ITEMS OUT EVERY, EVERY, UM, CYCLE THAT YOUR TRASH HAS PICKED UP.
THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS FOR YOU.
WHAT'S GOOD AND ADD SOME NEW PROGRAMS. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE THIS ALL FALLS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE AB 32 AB 3 41, AB 9 39, AB 1826, AB 1594.
NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO THE REALM OF SB 1383.
SO BRIAN, WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE SLIDES.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, BRIAN AND ASHLEY AND I, AND CAL RECYCLE WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, SO YOU CAN HELP US GET THE WORD OUT.
AND WE'LL TRY TO DO IT IN TIME FOR YOU TO BE HOME BY THE SEVENTH INNING STRETCH IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ANYBODY.
OKAY, THEN NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SO THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS TO FACILITATE THE RECYCLING OF ORGANICS AND ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, ON THE SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT IS CONSIDERED ORGANICS NOW.
SO OF COURSE THE NORMAL THINGS THAT YOU'D PUT IN YOUR GREEN, YOUR GREEN CONTAINER.
SO GREENWAYS, GRASS, CLIPPINGS, NORMAL YARD WORK, THAT TYPE OF STUFF FROM A, FROM WHAT YOU WERE FROM YOUR HOME.
AND NOW WHAT WE'LL BE, UH, ASKING FOR IS YOU TO ALSO PUT IN YOUR FOOD SCRAPS.
SO UNUSED FOOD, EXPIRED FOOD, ALL OF THAT GOES INTO THE GREEN BARREL.
AND THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT IS IF IT GOES TO A LANDFILL, IT NOW BREAKS DOWN AND CREATES GREENHOUSE GASES.
SO THE, THE MAIN, JUST TO, UH, TO THIS NEW, UH, ORGANICS RECYCLING PROGRAM IS TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET STATE MANDATES AND, UH, DECREASE, UH, GREENHOUSE GASES.
AND THEN JUST BECAUSE I HAVE YOU HERE, ONE OTHER ITEM THAT WE LIKE TO ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IS THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER GREEN WASTE, AND THEY'RE NOT.
SO PALM FRONDS, AS AN, AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU CAN'T COMPOST THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY BREAK IT DOWN.
PLEASE TREAT THAT AS A, AS TRASH.
UM, AND, UH, WE'LL GO FORWARD.
1383 AND FORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE.
EVERY CITY IS ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS NOW REQUIRED TO HAVE ITS OWN ORDINANCE.
SO AS CITY ORDINANCE THAT MANDATES, UH, MANDATES THIS TYPE OF RECYCLING.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IN CITY MUNICIPAL CODE, IT WILL NOW BE COMPULSORY FOR YOU TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF RECYCLING.
AND, UH, ALONG WITH THAT, THERE ARE PENALTIES THERE.
UH, THERE IS AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THAT WILL, UM, THAT WILL, WILL IMPOSE A AT FIRST IT WILL BE EDUCATIONAL THAT YOU'LL BE COACHED UP AND TAUGHT, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FROM YOU IN TERMS OF RECYCLING.
AND THEN AT SOME POINT, AS, UH, AS, UH, THE CITY SEES FIT, THEY COULD POSSIBLY HAVE, UH, HAVE MORE OF AN ENFORCEMENT THERE.
AND ALL OF THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
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AND IN ORDER TO VERIFY THAT WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH SB 1383, THERE IS GOING TO BE, UH, THERE ARE GOING TO BE NEW PROGRAMS THAT ENSURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY COLLECTING AND RECYCLING THAT TO WHAT, UH, MR. CLIFFORD SAID THAT WE ARE AUDITING THE ROUTES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING A THRESHOLD OF WHAT IT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE BLACK BARREL AND IS ACTUALLY GOING INTO THE GREEN BARREL.SO THERE WILL BE AUDITS TO MAKE SURE COMPLIANCE WITH THIS.
UM, THE WASTE CHARACTERIZATIONS, AS, UH, AS MR CLIFFORD SAID, WASTE CHARACTERIZATIONS ESSENTIALLY MEAN FOR DIFFERENT WASTE STREAMS. SO EVERYTHING THAT'S IN ONE TIME, WE'LL GO THROUGH A TRUCK.
THAT'S BEEN PICKING UP A GREEN BARREL IN, IN WEST COVINA.
WE TAKE IT TO OUR FACILITY, WE LITERALLY DROP IT ON THE FLOOR AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT CONTAINERS THAT WE SIT THERE.
AND WE SHORTED OUT TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, IN, IN WEST COVINA IS GREEN BARREL.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF TRASH OR PEOPLE ARE PUTTING, UH, PUTTING IN ITEMS THAT CANNOT BE COMPOSTED.
AND SO WITH THAT, THEN THAT MEANS WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ENFORCING OF, UH, OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, UH, REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF IT, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, TO NOTIFY CUSTOMERS THAT IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO NOT PROPERLY RECYCLE, UM, PART OF A SB 1383 IS ENSURING PROPER DATA RETENTION AND REPORTING BECAUSE WE, WE, ALONG WITH THE CITY SEND OUR DATA TO COWER CYCLE AND CAL RECYCLE HAS, UH, AS MANDATED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND BY THE GOVERNOR TO, TO REPORT BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, PROPER RECYCLING IS HAPPENING.
UM, ANOTHER COMPONENT TO IT IS PROCUREMENT.
SO ALONG WITH 1383 AND ALL OF THE RECYCLING FOR GREEN WASTE, UH, PROCUREMENT MEANS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN STANDARDS, CERTAIN LEVELS THAT CITIES MUST MEET OF, UH, OF PROCURING RECYCLED GOODS.
SO, UM, WHETHER IT'S COMPOST TO KIND OF CLOSE THAT CIRCLE, UM, UH, AND USING THAT IN CITY FACILITIES OR, UH, USING RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS, WHICH IS, UM, ESSENTIALLY, UH, WELL, UH, IT'S A FUEL THAT IS GENERATED FROM LANDFILLS AND OTHER RENEWABLE MEANS.
SO THERE ARE STATE, UH, STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU, THAT THE CITY HAS TO, UM, THE CITY HAS TO PROCURE ENOUGH TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
SO HAS A, AS WE HAD SAID, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS TO LIMIT GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND AS, UH, MR. CLIFFORD TOUCHED ON THE, THE BIGGEST COMPONENT FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS IS FOOD GOING INTO YOUR GREEN WASTE? SO THANK YOU, SIR.
ALSO WITH THAT, ALONG WITH, UM, ALONG WITH THAT ASPECT FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, UH, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A BIN FOR GREEN WASTE, UNLESS THERE'S AN EXEMPTION, WHICH THE CITY MAY OR MAY NOT GIVE.
UM, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF COMPLAINT.
UM, IF A BUSINESS SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT, YOU NEED TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT SIGN OFF THAT THERE IS NO SPACE ACTUALLY FOR IT.
UM, THERE'S A, A WHOLE VERIFICATION PROCESS.
ROUTE AUDITS AS WE HAD TOUCHED ON.
SO WE, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOR, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS WE WILL BE HIRING, UM, ADDITIONAL STAFF TO VISUALLY GO AND CHECK, UH, CUSTOMERS.
WE WILL, AS PART OF THE, AS PART OF THE MANDATE, WE HAVE TO DOCUMENT THIS.
SO WE WILL LITERALLY BE PLOPPING, OPEN YOUR LID, TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT'S INSIDE, NOTING IT, PUTTING IT, UH, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT IN OUR SYSTEM SO THAT WHEN WE ARE AUDITED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, BY CAL RECYCLE, WE'RE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THAT RECYCLING IS OCCURRING.
WE HOPE TO SEE NOTHING BUT GREEN WASTE AND FOOD WASTE IN THERE.
WE WOULD RATHER NOT SEE TRASH.
UM, AND IF WE DO FIND THINGS THAT ARE PROHIBITED, WE WILL BE NOTING IT.
AND THEN YOU WILL PROBABLY RECEIVE A LETTER SAYING, PLEASE, WE'RE GOING TO EDUCATE YOU.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO PERFECTLY RECYCLE.
AND THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS, THE STATE REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM TO KEEP THIS DATA, UH, TO KEEP THIS RECORDS, UH, IN PERPETUITY SO THAT WE CAN VERIFY THIS.
SO WHAT A ROUTE AUDIT WOULD BE IS AN UNDER 1383, UM, CITIES AND WELL CITIES ARE SCRUTINIZED.
AND FOR US, THE ROUTE AUDIT WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TRUCK THAT GOES THROUGHOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT
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IF THAT TRUCK IS, IF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS DOING A GOOD JOB, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO QUANTIFY, HEY, OUT OF, SO FOR OUR EXAMPLE, HERE, WE'RE SERVING.SO A TOTAL OF 2000 HOMES, UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND LOOKED AT JUST UNDER A THOUSAND.
WE FOUND 16 EXAMPLES OF CONTAMINATION.
AND THEN, SO THAT WOULD MEAN AT 1.6, 7% ON THAT ROUTE IS NOT PROPERLY RECYCLING.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN TARGET OUR IN FOR, OR TARGET OUR, UM, OUR EDUCATION EFFORTS ON THAT ROUTE.
AND OH, AND, AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, MA'AM, THIS BEGINS JANUARY 1ST, 2022.
SO BACK TO ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE, THESE ARE THE WASTE CHARACTERIZATIONS THAT I HAD MENTIONED.
SO ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, WE HAVE A RECYCLING TRUCK THAT DROPS IT SLOWED.
THEN YOU SEE OUR EMPLOYEES SORTING THROUGH IT TO DETERMINE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF EACH ONE OF THOSE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS, DIFFERENT MATERIALS ARE IN THERE.
SO YOU WILL PUT CARDBOARD, GLASS, CAT, FOOD, TINS, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE, UH, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE SPECIFIED IN, BROKEN DOWN.
NO, NO, THE MURPH, BUT WE'RE NOT COUNTING IT FOR YOU NOW.
WE BREAK IT DOWN TO CERTAIN CATEGORIES.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A VISUAL BREAKDOWN OF WHAT A WASTE CHARACTERIZATION WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE TOP.
WE SEE WHAT A RECITAL, WHAT ARE RECYCLABLE.
SO PAPER, PLASTIC, METAL, GLASS, ORGANIC, AND BENEFICIAL REUSE.
AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE OTHER ONES THAT ARE ALSO LISTED AS WELL.
SORRY, BUT, BUT IF WE DO, I CAN GO, I'LL GO BACK.
SO A BIG COMPONENT ABOUT THIS FROM A, FROM THE GET-GO IS TO ENSURE THAT WE, WE, UM, PROPERLY EDUCATE AND TEACH.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO PROPERLY RECYCLE.
UM, SO THROUGH THAT, WE WILL HAVE IN-PERSON, UH, PRESENTATIONS AND TRAINING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR CIVIC GROUPS, TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THIS NEW CHANGE IN LAW, WE WILL SPEAK AT ROTARY CLUBS, QUANTIS CLUBS, WHEREVER YOU WANT US, WE WILL BE THERE TO, UH, TO DISCUSS THIS NEW PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
CAUSE WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE CHAMBER HERE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S, THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT.
ALONG WITH THAT, WE WILL BE SO MANY, SO MANY, UH, SO MANY OF THE EDUCATIONAL ITEMS NOW ARE DONE OVER DIGITAL MEANS.
SO THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH EMAIL YOUTUBE, TIK TOK, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT TO PROPERLY OR HOW TO RECYCLE AND WHAT TO PROPERLY RECYCLE.
MA'AM JANUARY 1ST, 2022 IS WHEN THE LAW GOES INTO EFFECT.
AND THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO GET THE, GET THE BALL ROLLING.
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NO, NOT YET.NO, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE THOUGH.
I'LL SEND YOU THE LINK AND I WENT TO YOUR WEBSITE.
SO OBVIOUSLY RESIDENTS WERE AWARE.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING MORE.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING ON.
NO, GO BACK TO THE PRIOR SLIDE, PLEASE.
AND ALONG WITH, UH, ALONG WITH OUR IN-PERSON TRAINING, WE HAVE A PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS THAT WE LEAVE WITH OUR BUSINESSES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, BEHIND RESTAURANTS, WE, UH, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S SUCH A HIGH TURNOVER, A LOT OF TIME WITH, WITH EMPLOYEES.
WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A VISUAL MEDIUM FOR THEM TO SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY A COMPONENT OF EACH ONE OF THOSE WASTE STREAMS. AND ALSO WE HAVE THIS MATERIAL AVAILABLE TO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES.
THAT IS ACTUALLY A STATE LAW NOW.
I KNOW I'VE NOTICED THAT LIKE AT THE COSTCO, IN MY TOWN THAT YOU NOW SPECIFICALLY IN THE FOOD COURT HAVE FOOD WASTE, GREEN WASTE PAPER, OR COMPOSTABLE RECYCLING AND TRASH, BUT IT IS A COMPONENT OF STATE LAW.
NOW THAT YOU HAVE SOURCE THAT, UH, RESONANCE, WELL, WE PARTNER WITH RESTAURANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WELL AT WELL, RESTAURANTS WILL NO LONGER HAVE THAT AS AN ABILITY.
YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CUTOUTS THAT'LL SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT, WHAT GOES, WHERE, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE BILL'S NUMBER IS.
SO AGAIN, UH, MORE, IF YOU CAN TELL ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE IS A BIG COMPONENT TO SB 1383, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE AN INTERNAL APP THAT WE WILL USE TO MONITOR WHEN WE MAKE A, MAKE A VISIT TO A RESTAURANT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHO WE'VE SPOKEN WITH, SPOKEN TO THE MANAGER, TALKED WITH THEM, TAKEN PHOTOS OF THE GREEN WASTE LOCATION, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE PHOTOS OF EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL, ALL OF THAT, SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO QUANTIFY IT TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE STIFF PENALTIES OF UP TO $10,000 A DAY.
IF A CITY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, SIR.
WELL, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ALL PART OF THE, THE DATA THAT WE HAVE TO NOW KEEP ON, UH, ON EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, SIR, PROCUREMENT, AS I HAD MENTIONED, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, ALONG WITH SB 1383 HAS, UM, HAS GOALS TOWARDS PURCHASING RECYCLED MATERIALS.
UH, THE TWO LARGEST COMPONENTS TO THAT ARE THE USE OF RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS.
AND THE OTHER COMPONENT TO THAT IS ALSO THE PURCHASE OF A COMPOST COMPOST TO, UH, HELP TO DO FOR THE, UH, DEFRAY, THE USE OF, UH, CHEMICAL FERTILIZERS.
IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE ON, IT'LL BE WITH US WITH ACCESS FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY HAS, UM, ANNUALLY HAS A REPORTING, UH, REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
SO THEY CAN GO IN AND THERE'LL BE ABLE TO GO IN AND SEE WHAT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION IS.
AND SO IT'LL JUST BE BETWEEN US AND THE CITY, CORRECT.
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THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE FINES THAT ARE IN THE STATE ARE IN THE, OR IN THE LEGISLATION.SO THE FIRST, THE FIRST WHILE WITH THIS, IT IS COMPLETELY EDUCATION.
WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT, WE, THERE WILL BE, YES, THERE WILL BE JUST VERY QUICKLY ON THAT TOO.
THERE IS GOING TO BE LIKE A FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD, BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW TOO THAT, BECAUSE THIS TIMELINE, THIS IS THE VERY FIRST MEETING.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF OUTREACH.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MAILERS.
I THINK THERE'S ASSEMBLY BILL AND CALORIE CYCLE HELPED ME SIX 19, WHICH WAS JUST SIGNED THE OTHER DAY.
THE GOVERNORS GAVE CITY THE WHOLE YEAR OF 20, 22 TO GET THIS GOING.
SO YOU STILL HAVE TO WORK ON IT, BUT YOU MAY NOT GET FINE FOR THE FIRST YEAR TO GET EVERYBODY ON SPEED.
AND THEY KNOW THAT JANUARY IS COMING QUICK.
SO MAYBE THIS WON'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL MARCH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WE PERSONALLY, AS YOUR HOLLER HAVE TO GO OUT AND VISIT EVERY COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER.
AND THEN AFTER WE DO THAT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERY RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER HAS BEEN TOUCHED OR CONTACTED EITHER THROUGH SOME KIND OF A CAMPAIGN MAILER OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE, WE HAVE TO DO THESE, I'LL SAY 250 AUDITS, A QUARTER OF RANDOM RESIDENTIAL BARRELS.
AND WE JUST HAVE TO PUT THAT DATA INTO THE DATABASE, SHOWING THAT WE DID THOSE AUDITS AND THEN YOU'RE COMPLIANT.
AND THEN THE RESULTS OF THAT CITYWIDE GET TRACKED ALL THE WAY UP TO THE STATE.
SO THE STATE HAS TO ELIMINATE 50% OF THE ORGANIC WASTE UPFRONT.
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA HAS TO DO THEIR PART, BUT IT'S A STATE MEASUREMENT.
WELL, POTENTIALLY, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT YES, IN YOUR ONE CAN, ONE CAN IN A GREEN WASTE, ISN'T GOING TO BE CONSIDERED CONTAMINATION.
THERE'S A PERCENTAGE LEVEL OF WHAT'S IN THERE AND A PERCENTAGE LEVEL OF WHAT GOES INTO THE TRUCK AND THEN A PERCENTAGE LEVEL OF WHAT GOES INTO OUR MURPH.
SO ONE CAN'T, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE FORGIVING THAN THAT.
WELL, IT'LL STILL, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT WHEN WE HAVE TO MEASURE IT IN A 10 TON TRUCK, IT'S GOING TO BE DIMINIMOUS IS THE WORD, BUT LET, LET'S GET THROUGH THIS.
AND THAT WILL HANDLE, SORRY, SIR.
YOU HAVE TO FINISH YOUR QUESTION SHARING.
WELL, AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHY MONICA FROM, I THINK THAT'S WHY MONICA FROM THE CHAMBER IS HERE.
FOOD RECOVERY, ANOTHER COMPONENT TO A, TO SB 1383 IS ENSURING THAT EDIBLE FOOD IS NOT THROWN AWAY.
SO A COMPONENT TO THAT IS IDENTIFYING, UM, WELL, BASED ON TWO DIFFERENT TIERS, IDENTIFYING, UH, GENERATORS OF FOOD.
UM, SO, UH, SO THEY RECEIVE, OKAY, UH, WHOLESALE FOOD VENDORS, FOOD DISTRIBUTORS, GROCERY STORES, AND FOOD SERVICE PROVIDERS LIKE CATERERS.
THOSE ARE UNDER TIER ONE, WHICH GOES INTO EFFECT TO JANUARY 1ST.
AND WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO IS HAVE A PLAN TO PROVIDE EDUCATION TO THOSE GENERATORS, TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE BEING CONNECTED WITH W W WITH FOLKS THAT CAN ACTUALLY USE THE FOOD.
SO IT'S NOT BEING THROWN AWAY.
THERE'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOD THAT HAS NOT BEEN PREPARED YET.
NOT, NOT THAT'S COOKED FOOD, THAT'S COOKED AND NOT EATEN.
WE'LL GO INTO THE ORGANIC SPIRAL.
THIS IS FOOD THAT HAS NOT BEEN PREPARED LIKE A GROCERY STORE WHO HAS PRODUCE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK TO THE PLANT AND IT'S STILL GOOD.
THEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE SOME, SOME RESERVATION WITH ONE OF THESE COMPANIES THAT WILL TAKE IT AND REUSE IT, OR IF A RESTAURANT
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OR A, OR A, UM, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? A CAFETERIA ORDERS, A HUNDRED POUNDS OF GROUND BEEF, AND THEY ONLY USE 80 AND THEY HAVE 20 LEFTOVER.THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS TO HAVE THAT 20 POUNDS TAKEN JUST SOMEPLACE THAT CAN COOK IT AND REUSE IT TO BE PICKED UP BY A FOOD PANTRY.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IF MCDONALD'S HAS 10 HAMBURGERS LEFT OVER, THEY GOT TO CALL SOMEBODY TO FIND OUT WHO'S GOING TO EAT THEM.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PREP, FOOD PREP, AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COOKED YET.
BUT IF THERE'S FOOD THAT HAS BEEN NOT EATEN AT A RESTAURANT OR, OR WHATEVER, THAT'LL BE TAKEN TO THE ORGANIC BARREL AND THEN PROCESSED INTO COMPOST THAT WAY.
AND THEN, YEAH, JUST WITH TIER TWO WAS GOING DOWN TO SMALLER PRODUCERS OF THAT.
SO THE, THE GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE FOOD WASTE OR GREEN WASTE IN, IN THE TRASH, BUT TO BE USED EITHER THROUGH A COMPOSTING OR THROUGH A EDIBLE MEANS.
SO IN CLOSING THIS OUT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, THEN ASK HOW RECYCLE IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK.
BUT THE ELEMENTS OF THIS ARE TIMELY.
CITIES ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE LAW, ALTHOUGH IT WAS STARTED IN 2016, HAS JUST BEEN COMPLETED FROM A STANDPOINT OF EXACTLY HOW IT'S GOING TO ROLL OUT.
UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO START THE CITY SCHEDULED THIS MEETING, AND WE SAID, WE WOULD BE HERE TO HELP THE CITY TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN IN THE CITY, UH, WHETHER IT ON ALL THE APPS THAT WE USE AND ASHLEY COULD FILL YOU IN ON THAT.
AND THEN IN THE BILLING, IT'S GOING TO COME OUT IN THE BILLING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ESTIMATE SOMETIME IN THE FIRST QUARTER THAT THIS'LL BE REPORTED TO CAL RECYCLE THAT PEOPLE WILL START GETTING IN THE GROOVE WITH IT.
AND THEN IT'LL START AT SOME POINT MAYBE MARCH OR APRIL IT, DEPENDING ON HOW WE GO THROUGH THIS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT CERTAINLY SOMETIME IN 2022, THE CITY IS GOING TO START THIS PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REPORT TO CAL RECYCLE THAT THEY HAVE NOW AT LEAST PUT THE MOTIONS IN PLACE TO BEGIN THE PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
START THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION, AND THEN REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND TO THE BUSINESSES IN TOWN.
AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS THEIR HAULER TO HELP THEM DO THAT IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
AND THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT IS OCCURRING LITERALLY IN EVERY SINGLE CITY, ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT EVERY CITY IS TACKLING.
AND WE'RE GLAD TO BE ABLE TO START THE JOURNEY WITH YOU.
WELL, JUST TALKING ABOUT OUTREACH IS SO NOT EVEN RESIDENTS.
WELL, I DON'T THINK WE SAID IT WAS, IT'S NOT ONE THING.
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WELL, AND, AND ASHLEY, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, I KNOW WE WERE AT THE FLOOD, THE FIRE, THE DEPARTMENT OPEN HOUSE RECENTLY.WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF THIS AND THAT THEY ARE PROPERLY RECYCLING.
BEFORE WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, CAL RECYCLE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD THAT WE MISSED JENNIFER? WOULD YOU PLEASE USE THE MICROPHONE? WE WELCOME ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGER, JENNIFER WALLEN.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I CAME UP FROM LONG BEACH AND OUR OFFICE IS IN SERITOS, SO WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT COMING DOWN FROM SACRAMENTO.
UM, BUT I DO, UM, APPRECIATE BEING HERE.
I DEFINITELY, UM, ENJOY HEARING ABOUT ALL THESE PROGRAMS. AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE ALREADY HAVE THE GREEN BARREL HERE IN, IN WEST COVINA.
SO JUST KIND OF MOVING SOME, SOME ITEMS OVER TO THAT CONTAINER.
I DID WANT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP WITH CONTAMINATION.
I'M JUST NOTING THROUGH THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE DEVELOPED TO SUPPORT THIS LAW.
UM, THERE WAS MAYBE AN, AN INITIAL ITERATION THAT HAD THE FINES SPECIFICALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, CONTAMINATION, BUT BECAUSE OF CONCERNS LIKE YOU RAISED THAT JUST LIKE YOU SAID, AS SOON AS YOU PUT YOUR CONTAINER OUT AT THE CURB, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE CONTROL OVER IT.
UM, THAT ASPECT OF THE FINES WAS REMOVED FROM THE REGULATION.
SO A JURISDICTION COULD HAVE A MORE STRINGENT ORDINANCE IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE FINES SPECIFIC FOR CONTAMINATION.
WELL, BUT THE, THE, THE FINE COMPONENT AND WE'LL GET INTO THE, THE FINE COMPONENT IS, UM, REALLY IN THE REGULATOR, THE FINAL REGULATIONS IS RELATED TO REFUSAL OF SERVICE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD WORK IN SITUATION WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE THE CONTAINER.
SO, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THERE WAS A BUSINESS THAT SOMEHOW THEY REFUSED THE SERVICE THAT THAT COULD LEAD TO.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, UH, IT'S STILL A PROCESS OF EDUCATION AND TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM AND ALL THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A PATHWAY FOR FINES, BUT JUST NOTING THAT THAT'S NOT, UM, INHERENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CONTAMINATION PART, THAT WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE JURISDICTION, THROUGH THEIR, THEIR ORDINANCE.
I THINK IN CLOSING THAT OUT, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA HAS JUST STARTED THE PROCESS.
THERE'LL BE MANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT DEAL WITH THE ORGANIC, UM, ORDINANCE THAT HAS TO GO INTO PLACE, THEN HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
AND THEN ONCE ALL THAT'S DECIDED, THEN WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION AND OUTREACH THAT HAS TO HAPPEN AND WHAT PROGRAM NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO PLACE.
SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, GO AHEAD WITH QUESTIONS, THEN THERE'S A SPECIAL, YEAH, WELL, WE'LL TAKE THAT.
WE'LL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK BACK TO THE CITY AND MAYBE WE'LL DO A DOOR, A DOOR HANGER, OR WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET TO EACH PERSON, LET YOU KNOW, LIKE, WE HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET YOU BUILD WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE INFORMATION TO YOU.
WE'LL YOU WHERE YOU CAN VERIFY THAT YOU'VE BEEN CONTACTED AND THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IT BETWEEN OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE.
IF YOU, IF YOU GO PAPERLESS, THEN YOU, THEN YOU GIVE US IF YOU'RE PAPERLESS, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN EMAIL ON FILE.
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YES.I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU HAVEN'T BEEN GETTING, BUT I GET THEM.
AND THOSE, YOU KNOW WHAT, BY THE WAY, I HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT TODAY.
WE REPLACE SOMEBODY'S TRASHCAN TODAY AND TOOK THE ROUND ONE AWAY AND PUT THE NEW SQUARE ONE.
SHE IMMEDIATELY CALLED US AND SAID, WILL YOU PLEASE BRING MY OLD DRESS CAN BACK? NO, I DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE WE SAID THE NEW ONES ARE DIFFERENT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SCRUB IT UP FOR HER AND BRING IT BACK.
BUT BACK TO BACK TO 1383, WE ARE GOING TO FIGURE THAT, LOOK, WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTACT EVERY RESIDENCE, WHETHER IT'S BY IN PERSON, BY PHONE, BY EMAIL, BECAUSE WE'LL GO INTO THE ACCOUNT AND WE'LL NOTE.
WE'VE HAD A COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.
I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT, THAT I THINK THAT I CALLED THE CITY MANAGER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND I SAID, MR. CARMONEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TOGETHER WITH YOU AND DISCUSS HOW TO LAUNCH THIS.
HE IMMEDIATELY SCHEDULED A TOWN HALL MEETING.
HE ASKED ME, HE MADE SURE THAT OUR SCHEDULE WAS CLEAR.
I MEAN, FROM A STANDPOINT OF MY INTERACTION WITH HIM, HE DID EVERYTHING THAT HE COULD TO GET THIS STARTED.
BUT THIS IS JUST THE FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MANY OF THESE.
WE'LL TAKE ALL THIS FEEDBACK WITH HIM.
WHAT'S THAT WE'LL DO THE SAME THING.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WHEN BRIAN AND I AND ASHLEY GO BACK, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO SOMETHING WITH WEST COVINA CUSTOMERS, MAYBE EVEN A ROBOCALL, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY AND IT WILL TAKE THIS FEEDBACK.
WE'RE HAVING THIS MEETING TO GET FEEDBACK ON WHAT TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE ENSURE A GREAT ROLLOUT.
WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IMPACTS OUR LIFE QUITE A BIT TOO.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU CAN, IF YOU WANT TO, WE'RE ASKING ISN'T THAT NICE.
I WOULD JUST TAKE IT AND EITHER LET IT GET HARD AND PUT IT IN THERE OR JUST POUR IT OVER THE GRASS WHEN IT'S COOL, WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUT IN.
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YEAH, NO, WE'LL ALL LOOK AT THE BILL.I DON'T, I DON'T, WE, WE PAY A FRANCHISE FEE ON GROCERY SEATS, SO THAT'S JUST OUR CONTRACT, THE REGULAR ONE.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE BILL AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT.
I HAVE TO GET, I W I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT PART OF OUR OUTREACH AND EDUCATION IS ON YOUR TRASHCAN, WHETHER IT'S A STICKER OR AS YOU REPLACE THEM, ATHENS SERVICES IS PUTTING A QR CODE.
SO EVERYBODY USES, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT USING SOCIAL MEDIA, MOST, ALL OF US CARRY A CELL PHONE AND YOU GET YOUR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE YOUR CELL PHONE AND PUT IT OVER THE QR CODE ON YOUR BARREL.
AND IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT CAN GO IN THERE OR NOT.
AND SO IT'S, YES, W OUR, OUR INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL, ALL OF THE OLDER TRASH CANS TO GET SOME KIND OF NOTIFICATION ON THEM OVER TIME.
AND THEN AS WE REPLACE THEM, THERE'LL BE IN D SHED ON THE NEW TRASH CANS.
SO WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO HERE, CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMES AND A LOT OF TRASH CANS, BUT WITH THE, WITH THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION, YOU'LL GET A PIECE OF PAPER OR YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO TO THE WEBSITE OR IT'LL BE ON YOUR BILL TOO.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'LL DO IN, IN, IN WORKING WITH THE CITY, MAYBE WE'LL DO A REFRIGERATOR MAGNET OR SOMETHING.
MAYBE WE'LL DO SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR THIS CITY.
IT WILL HELP YOU IDENTIFY WHAT TO DO.
AND PART OF THE CITY MANAGEMENT AND YOUR PIOS JOB WILL BE TO GAIN THAT INFORMATION AND DO THE BEST THING THAT WE CAN.
SO YOU GET COMPLIANCE BECAUSE WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO, I MEANING ATHENS, BRIAN AND I, AND ASHLEY, WE'RE GOING TO BUY LIKE FOUR OR FIVE OF THOSE OLD FASHIONED JEEPS WITH THE RIGHT HAND DRIVE.
AND SOMEBODY NEW THAT'S GOING TO BE HIRED IS GOING TO BE AN AUDITOR.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE TO A COUPLE HUNDRED HOMES EVERY DAY AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT STUFF THEY HAVE TO DO.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO DOWNLOAD IT TO A DATABASE.
WE HAVE TO FILL OUT THE FORMS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ON FILE.
SO THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHEN CALORIE CYCLE GETS THE REPORT, IT SAYS WEST COVINA IS ABOVE 50% DIVERSION.
THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE PROGRAM AND THEY'RE DIVERTING 50% OF YOUR ORGANIC WASTE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
SO NOW YOU'RE TO SEE THE ATHENS TRUCKS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE LITTLE ATHENS JEEPS.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE IN THE STREET ACTUALLY DOING THIS AND WHERE WE HAD TO DO THAT IN THE COMMERCIAL ARENA BEFORE, WHICH IS WHAT'S SMALLER.
NOW WE HAVE TO DO IT AT THE HOMES IN THE CITIES.
AND BY THE WAY, THE CITY OF WEST COVINA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON RECYCLING DURING COVID.
IT WAS A LITTLE ROUGH BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE HOME AND IT WAS A VERY CONFUSING TIME FOR A FEW MONTHS, BUT NOT WITHSTANDING THE FIRST, THE FEW MONTHS OF COVID, THIS CITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE LEAD RECYCLING CITIES IN THE VALLEY.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.
I THINK THE CITIZENS HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE FACT THAT THEY WANT TO RECYCLE THAT THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
AGAIN, IT'S THE CITY'S JOB TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE THAT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER WITH THEM TO DO IT.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS MAY BE THE FIRST ONE OF THESE.
BUT I REMEMBER, UH, DOING THE 1826, WE HAD PROBABLY SIX TOWN HALL MEETINGS, REMEMBER IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND THEY WERE, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT ARE 200.
SO AS, AS TIME GOES AND YOU SAW, WE WERE AT ALL OF THEM, RIGHT.
AND SO WE WANT TO GET THE MYTH OUT OF THERE.
WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE'S TIME TO DO THIS BECAUSE THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND CALORIE CYCLE WAS GENEROUS TO EXTEND THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.
IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE PENALIZED AS LONG AS YOU'RE WORKING ON THE PROCESS OF GETTING THIS DONE.
IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE GROSS RATE OF THE CITY.
AND SO IF YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE PAYING A DOLLAR, THEN THE FRANCHISE FEE IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT DOLLAR.
SO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, IF WE LET'S JUST SAY WE DO THE SERVICE AND THE SERVICE IS FOUR BUCKS A HOME, THEN THAT $4 THAT GETS PAID ON A GROCERY SEAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE FRANCHISE FEE.
UH, WE, WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION.
WE HAVE THE FINAL RULEMAKING AND KIND OF HOW, UM, THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE LAW AND, AND THE REGULATIONS,
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AND THEN WE'RE BUILDING OUT THE SITE.UM, NOT JUST WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GEAR IT TOWARDS ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE WOULD BE A PAGE FOR COLLECTIONS THAT WOULD BE PERTINENT THAT ATHENS AND THE CITY WOULD BE LOOKING AT.
BUT, BUT WITH TIME, YOU'LL SEE MORE THAT'S HERE'S, YOU KNOW, FOR RESIDENCE OR A COMMERCIAL ENTITY, YOU KNOW, SO KIND OF FINDING YOUR, YOUR NICHE, SO TO SPEAK AND HOW TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT'S PERTINENT TO, TO YOU.
AND SO OUR INTENT WILL BE THAT WHEN YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, THERE'LL BE A LINK TO CAL RECYCLES.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GO AND PICK WEST COVINA, THERE'LL BE A LINK TO YOUR CITY WEBSITE.
IT'LL SHOW WHAT PROCESSES YOU'RE DOING.
AND AS CALORIE CYCLE, JUST WRAP THEIRS UP.
WE'LL, WE'LL LINK TO ALL OF THOSE ALSO.
AND THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK THAT I SAW IT ALREADY, BUT ALL I ASKED ASHLEY TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S THERE, BUT WE HAVE A FEW CITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED 1383.
UM, I WAS JUST IN THE CITY OF NORWALK THE OTHER NIGHT.
UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL CITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE IT.
THEY'RE GETTING READY TO GO IN JANUARY AND IT'S LINKED ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THEIR CITIZENS AND, AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WEST COVINA GETS THAT SAME TREATMENT TO UNDERSTAND IT.
AND THEN OUR CUSTOMER, AFTER TODAY, WE WILL TAKE THIS INFORMATION, BUT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT WILL ALSO BE BRIEFED ON WEST COVINA BECAUSE EVERY CITY HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT NUANCE.
SOME CITIES HAVE ONE CANS, SOME HAVE TWO CANS AND SOME HAVE THREE CANS.
AND SO EVERY IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE, YEAH.
SOME, YEAH, SOME PEOPLE LIKE MY CITY HAS OUR OWN CANS, BUT THAT'S, I LIVE IN GLENDORA, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY TOO, BECAUSE CAL RECYCLE DOWN THE ROAD HAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE CANS HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN COLOR AND THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE BECAUSE THAT ALL HELPS IN THE METHODOLOGY OF TRAINING PEOPLE, WHAT TO DO.
SO IN CITIES, LIKE, LIKE MY CITY OF GLENDORA IN CITIES OF AZUSA, THAT WILL GO AWAY FROM THE MANUAL, BUYING OUR OWN CANS, GO TO AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG TRAINING.
WE HAD A CITY, A LITTLE BIT WEST OF US THAT ACTUALLY HAD TWO DAY A WEEK COLLECTION.
SO EVERY HOUSE GOT COLLECTED TWO DAYS A WEEK AND IT WAS MANUAL THAT CITIES ALREADY IMPLEMENTED IT.
THEY WENT TO ONE DAY, A WEEK, AUTOMATED AND MADE A LOT OF CHANGES AND THEY'RE DONE, AND THAT'S ALL CONNECTED.
AND THAT WENT, THAT'S A BIG CITY.
AND IT WENT THROUGH WITHOUT A HITCH.
AND THEN WE, WE DID THE SAME THING.
WE STARTED WITH A FEW PEOPLE, ENDED UP MANY MORE MEETINGS.
AND THE FUNNY THING WAS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THEY VOTED TO DO IT.
THERE WAS PROBABLY ONLY THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE THERE, BUT AS WE IMPLEMENTED IT, THAT'S WHEN ALL THE ACTIONS STARTED HAPPENING, PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, A POSTCARD TO SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT POSTCARDS SAYING, WELL, HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? WHAT KIND OF SERVICE DO YOU WANT TO DO? THAT'S ALL PART OF IT.
WHEN WE START ROLLING THIS OUT JUST TO A THREE CONTAINERS, THIS WITH, UH, I, WELL, DEFINITELY THROUGH THIS, THIS LAW, THERE'S STILL THE, UM, SORRY, MY TOO FAR AWAY, THERE'S STILL THE, THE OUTLINE OF HAVING THE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, ARRANGEMENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, A THREE CONTAINER SYSTEM, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, AND THERE WOULD BE THE TWO CONTAINER.
AND THEN EVEN WITH TWO CONTAINER, THERE'S KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
SOMETIMES THERE'S WET, EVERYTHING WET GOES IN ONE CONTAINER, EVERYTHING DRY.
AND THEN SOMETIMES THERE'S THE, THE, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE RECYCLING AND THE TRASH AND THE GREEN.
UM, SO, AND THEN THERE'S EVEN STILL THE ONE CONTAINER SYSTEM THERE'S EVEN A FOUR CONTAINER SYSTEM.
IS IT? WELL, IT'S JUST THIS, THIS LAW STILL OUTLINES KIND OF THE YEAH.
HAVING, UH, HAVING THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DIFFERENT OPTIONS WORK FOR DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS.
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WHEN THERE'S SPACE CONSTRAINTS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS OF, OF HOW THE CONFIGURATION WOULD BE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS WASTE STREAM.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TWO WASTE STREAMS CALORIE CYCLE.
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LAW HAS ALLOWED MIXED WASTE PROCESSING TO STILL BE PART OF IT.IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE STRINGENT.
IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME CAL RECYCLE, PREFERS, INDEPENDENT WASTE STREAMS. THEY LIKE THREE, ONE, THEY LIKE A TRASH STREAM, A RECYCLE STREAM.
THAT IS THEIR DREAM RECYCLING CUSTOMER.
NOT ALL CUSTOMERS HAVE THAT METHOD.
IT'S KIND OF UP TO THE HOLLER AND IT'S UP TO THE JURISDICTION.
SO WE WILL BE HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH CITY MANAGEMENT ON THE CURRENT METHOD.
DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THE TWO BARREL PROGRAM? DO YOU WANT TO ADD A THIRD BARREL? THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE AS WE LOOK AS THE IMPACT OF THE LAW.
I COULD TELL YOU THAT IF I SAID THAT 1383 IS NOT GOING TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COST.
I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SAYING THAT.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT TIPPING CALL.
WHEN WE DID 1826 AND 1594, THERE'S NO INCREASES TO THAT.
AND THERE'S NO TIPPING FREE IN TIPPING FEE.
YOU CAN STILL KEEP THOSE TWO BINS.
UM, OH, I DON'T, AGAIN, CAN I, YOU'RE SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE CONTRACT SAYS THAT IF THERE'S A CHANGE OF LAW, WE'RE ALLOWED TO NEGOTIATE THAT CHANGE THAT WE NEVER WOULD SAY YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A TWO BARREL SYSTEM.
THAT'S COMPLIANT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT.
THERE'S A NEW LAW AND IT'S CHANGING THAT.
SO NOW, INSTEAD OF TAKING YOUR GREEN WASTE TO COMPOST, WE HAVE TO TAKE YOUR GREEN WASTE TO GO GET PATHOGEN REDUCED BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE FOOD IN IT.
AND IT DOESN'T BIODEGRADE LIKE GREEN GRASS DOES.
YOU HAVE TO, WELL, WE, WE, IN 2016, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT 1383 WAS GOING TO REQUIRE, BUT WE KNEW THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE, THAT FOOD WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN WITH THE GREEN, BUT NOBODY KNEW WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE YET.
SO YEAH, THEY, I MEAN, THEY JUST WRAPPED IT UP.
SO ALL I'M TELLING YOU IS THAT WHATEVER WE DECIDE WITH THE CITY FOR 1383, THERE IS POTENTIALLY A COST IN IT, NOT A PROFIT FOR ATHENS.
THERE'S A COST IN DOING THAT NEW SERVICE.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHERE IT'S GOING NOW.
AND THAT MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE A BLUE BARREL THAT MAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT IN EVERY CITY, THERE'S 88 CITIES IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY.
THERE'S NOT A CITY THAT IS IMPLEMENTING 1383, WHERE THERE ISN'T A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THE RATE PAYER, THE RATE PAYER, WHAT I'VE HEARD.
NO, THERE'S A FEW, THERE'S SEVEN THERE'S SEVEN, THOSE SEVEN POINTS.
UH, WE COULD GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE.
THERE'S SEVEN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO, IT'S A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA AND I'LL, AND I'LL MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU WITHOUT GOING THROUGH HOURS THAT I HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH DAVE.
BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT YOU TAKE YOUR GREEN WASTE.
BECAUSE IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.
BUT, UM, WHILE I'M TALKING, BRIAN, WILL YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT HAD THE SEVEN THINGS ON IT.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU IS RIGHT NOW YOU PUT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR ORGANIC WASTE INTO ONE BARREL AND IT GOES TO THE LANDFILL.
WE TAKE SOME OF IT OUT, BUT IT GOES TO THE LANDFILL.
2016, WHEN YOU WERE NEGOTIATING, YOU SAID THIS, YES.
THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT
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CHANGE AND RESIDENTS WEREN'T BEING CHARGED NOW.BUT I SAID TO BE PREPARED FOR LATER, I REMEMBER THAT CLEARLY.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE, BUT WE WOULD NEVER, WE WOULD NEVER SAY THAT THAT, THAT, THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AT NO COST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROCESS.
IT IT'S, IT MAKES THE GREEN WASTE MUCH HEAVIER TONNAGE WISE.
IT'S THERE'S GOING TO BE A RATE INCREASE ASSOCIATED WITH SENATE BILL 1383.
IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADDENDUM TO YOUR RATE.
AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, IF YOU'RE PAYING, IF YOU'RE PAYING, YEAH.
IT'S GOING TO BE A RATE INCREASE.
IF YOU'RE PAYING $32 RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THAT $32 TO HAVE THAT SERVICE.
WELL, YOU PAID EVERY THREE MONTHS, I'M TALKING ABOUT MONTHLY.
SO LET'S JUST SAY YOU PAY 35 BUCKS A MONTH, TIMES THREE, THAT COMES UP TO SOMETHING.
THAT'S GOING TO GO UP A FEW DOLLARS A MONTH, DEPENDING ON HOW THE SERVICE BREAKS OUT AND WHAT WE DO TO TRY TO MITIGATE THOSE.
IT'S, UH, IT'S LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE CONTRACT AND TRYING TO SAY, HERE'S THE COST TO DO THAT? DO WE, IS THERE WAYS WE CAN MITIGATE THAT COST BY DOING SYNERGY SYNERGY THINGS? OR IS IT JUST A STRAIGHT COST FOR UNIVERSITY? OH, YOU DO.
MEANING IT'S THE SAME TONNAGE PRICE, BUT TONNAGE IS VERY, SO IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND TONS, IT WILL BE TIMES THAT FACTOR.
OR IF YOU HAVE ONE TON, IT'LL STILL BE TIMES THAT FACTOR.
DID HE SAY THE, THE COST OF DOING THE PROGRAM IS THE SAME IN EVERY CITY.
IT'S HOW MUCH TONNAGE THE CITY HAS.
AND THEN BASED ON THE PROGRAM, HOW LONG CAN YOU AMORTIZE THAT OUT? UH, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TIPPING FEES.
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SALMON.
HE D HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY TIPPING FEES AND THAT THERE WAS OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO WATCH THAT WITH YOU TO SEE THAT.
I, I PRETTY MUCH HAVE MET ALL THOSE MEETINGS.
AND IF HE SAID THAT I WOULD, I REMEMBER HIM TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THAT ON A SPECIFIC, MOST FAVORED NATIONS CLAUSE ON A SPECIFIC TIP RATE THAT YEAH.
THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ANNUAL PICKUP, BUT YES, YOUR ANNUAL PICKUPS STILL HAPPEN.
RIGHT NOW WE COLLECT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN YOUR BLACK BARREL AND WE SEND IT TO OUR MURPH AND WE PULL OUT EVERYTHING.
WE CAN, THAT'S A SELLABLE, RECYCLABLE COMMODITY ITEM TO AVOID THE LANDFILL INCLUDED IN THAT IS SOMETHING CALLED MURPH FINES, F I N E S, WHICH ARE THE THINGS THAT TRICKLE DOWN, GRASP BLADES, UH, ORGANIC FOOD, JUST LITTLE THINGS.
AND THAT ALSO COULD GO TO A LANDFILL, HAS BENEFICIAL REUSE, MAYBE ON THE SIDE OF A SLOPE, BUT NONE OF THAT STUFF HAS ALLOWED ANY MORE.
NO ORGANIC WASTE IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO GO TO A LANDFILL AT ALL FOR ANY KIND OF USE BENEFICIAL REUSE.
THEY DON'T WANT IT ANYWHERE NEAR THERE.
SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THAT ORGANIC FRACTION, NOT HAVE IT IN A MIXED WASTE BARREL, BUT HAVE IT IN A BARREL WHERE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT GOES TO BE COMPOSTED AND PATHOGEN REDUCED.
SO YOU HAVE GRASS IN THERE RIGHT NOW, MOSTLY GRASS,
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SOMETIMES SOME WOODS, SOMETIMES SOME LEAVES, BUT THOSE CAN GO DIRECTLY TO COMPOSTING.YOU JUST PUT THEM IN A MACHINE, YOU CHIP THEM UP, YOU GO THROUGH MAYBE 50, 60 DAYS.
THE MINUTE YOU PUT FOOD IN WITH THAT, IT HAS GO TO A DIFFERENT PROCESS AND YOU COULD LOOK IT UP.
IT HAS TO BE PATHOGEN REDUCED, MEANING IT HAS TO GET TO A HIGH TEMPERATURE TO KILL THE BACTERIA, THAT FOOD AND FOOD LIKE PRODUCTS TAKE.
ONCE YOU DO THAT, THEN IT COULD BE COMPOSTED AND REUSED.
SO THAT DIFFERENT PROCESS IS WHAT IS NOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW TO YOUR GREEN WASTE.
WELL THAT CREATES METHANE GAS.
AND IF EVERYBODY DOES, IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE THAT PROCESS CREATES SOMETHING THAT THE ENVIRONMENT ISN'T, ISN'T FRIENDLY TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO NOW IT NEEDS
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE NOT IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SIZE, SEE ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE THINGS WORK GOOD.
THEY ALL WORK GOOD ON A SMALL SCALE.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DOING THAT, IT HAS TO BE CONTROLLED.
I THINK IT'S BASED ON EACH INDIVIDUAL CITY, WHAT THE LANGUAGES SPOKEN ARE, BUT THEN THROUGH THE APP, UM, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DO IN THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES.
SO WE'LL HAVE RUSSIAN, WE'LL HAVE THAI THAT'S WHERE BEING ABLE TO SCAN THE CODE ON THE TOP OF YOUR, ON THE TOP OF YOUR BARREL, WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO PUT IT ON, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS, YOU KNOW, KOREAN TO GUY LOG.
UM, DEFINITELY RIGHT NOW WE BELIEVE THE DATA SHOWS THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE THROWING IT OUT IN THEIR TRASHCAN, THAT MOST FOOD GETS THROWN OUT IN THE TRASHCAN.
SO IN THE BLACK ONE, SO THAT CONDITION ALREADY EXISTS.
SO WHAT, WE'RE, WHAT WHAT'S REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN.
IF, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THIS.
AND, AND I THINK CAL RECYCLE HINTED TO THIS WET, DRY KIND OF THING.
WHAT'S IN YOUR MIXED WASTE BARREL NOW INCLUDES THE WET, SLOPPY FOOD THAT IS NOW GOING TO COME OUT OF THERE.
AND IT'S GOING TO GO IN WITH THE GREEN, WHICH IS ALREADY WET AND SLOPPY.
AND THIS IS THE GREEN ALREADY SMELLS.
IF YOU, IF YOU MIGHT, TRASH DAY IS ON THURSDAY, MY GREEN WASTE BARRELS GET FILLED ON FRIDAY.
SO THEY'RE THERE A WHOLE WEEK BY THE END OF THE WEEK.
MY POINT IS THAT NOW THAT'S GOING IN THERE, BUT GUESS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOUR, THE THINGS THAT ARE IN YOUR MIXED WASTE BARREL ARE GOING TO BE A BETTER QUALITY RECYCLING TOO.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT IN THERE, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY CO-MINGLED NOW.
SO WHETHER YOU HAVE A GREEN WASTE OR A BLACK CAN, THE FOOD'S GOING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER IN A MORE APPROPRIATE WET ENVIRONMENT, AND THERE'LL BE TAKEN OUT OF THE BLACK BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY NOW NOT IN ALL CITIES, TRADITIONALLY IN A BLACK BARREL GETS PICKED UP BY A TRASH TRUCK AND GOES DIRECTLY TO A LANDFILL.
IT GOES DIRECTLY TO A LANDFILL IN EVERY OTHER CITY THAT HAPPENS IN WEST COVINA.
IT DOESN'T, YOURS GOES TO A PROCESSING PLANT AND IT GETS PROCESSED.
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THAT ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT TRASH THINGS.AND IT'S MY ARGUMENT THAT WHEN YOU PICK UP A BLACK BARREL IN ANOTHER CITY AND ANOTHER COMPANY THAT I'D HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR TRUCK THAN WE DO, AND THEY TAKE THAT BLACK BARREL TO THE LANDFILL, THEY'RE THROWING AWAY A LOT OF RECYCLABLE ITEMS. THAT'S WHY WE PROCESS IT.
AND CITIES, CITIES LIKE WEST COVINA HAVE A HIGHER DIVERSION LEVEL BECAUSE OF THAT PROCESSING.
UM, SO YOU ARE NOW STUCK BECAUSE, WELL, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF ON THAT, UH, GOING FORWARD.
AND I KNOW WE HAD RUN INTO ISSUES OF, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT CAR PARTS, WITH, UM, PEOPLE LEAVING OIL AND HAVING BIG ISSUES THAT WOULD SEEP INTO STORM DRAINS AND INTO GUTTERS.
AND THAT PUT A STRAIN ON CITY STAFF BEING ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND MONITOR THAT AS WELL.
NO, IF YOU GO TO A CITY PARK IT'S BAD.
WELL, AND THROUGHOUT COVID, WE'VE SEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN PEOPLE CALLING IN, UH, THE BULKY ITEM PICKUPS AT THEIR INDIVIDUAL HOUSE.
CAUSE I KNOW I'M SURE LIKE YOURSELF, WE GO THROUGH AND MTA, I'M HEARING YOU SAY AS FEEDBACK AS YOU WANT THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THEY INCLUDE THE ANNUAL PICKUP IN THE FUTURE GOING THROUGH THIS.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? I, I NEVER, NO.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK.
WE'LL TALK BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THAT IT, I THINK THAT CITY STAFF, FOR SOME REASON SAID ONE YEAR THEY HAD TO PUT IT OFF, THEN I THINK COVID CAME.
NO, I THINK, NO, I THINK COVID ACTUALLY, YEAH, IT WAS JUST TWO YEARS.
I D I D I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT.
LOOK AT, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, AND THIS IS, YOU CAN REMEMBER THIS.
WE WILL DO THE ANNUAL CLEANUP AS CONTRACTED, AND THE CITY WILL DIRECT US.
WHAT DATE, WHATEVER THE CONTRACT SAYS.
WE'LL DO IT AS LONG AS THERE'S NO LA COUNTY RESTRICTION OR OTHER RESTRICTION, OR WE GET NOBODY AT ATHENS WAKES UP AND SAYS, WE DON'T WANT TO DO AN ANNUAL PICKUP THAT NEVER HAPPENS.
WE GET DIRECTION TO DO THEM OR NOT DO THEM.
SO IF WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A CITY, AND IF SOMEBODY JUST SAYS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ONE THIS YEAR.
WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT.
MAYBE I THINK, HONESTLY, I THINK THAT YEAR WE RELAXED THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE BULKY ITEM PICKUPS, OR I KNOW WE DID SOMETHING.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT A RESULT OF YOUR, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY, WE'LL TAKE THAT BACK AND MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS.
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SO WHEN WOULD WE DO? YEAH, BUT IN FIVE TIMES, 52 IS A LOT MORE.SO HOW LONG DO YOU WANT TO TALK? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR ANNUAL PICK-UP.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR ANNUAL PIN.
WE ARE GOING TO DO YOUR ANNUAL PICKUP.
IT'S MAKES MARK MARK MARTINEZ DAY.
THAT'S HIS, HIS MOST FAVORITE WORKDAY WHEN HE DOES THAT ANNUAL PICKUP.
IT'S IT'S ONE OF THE HEAVIEST DAYS.
I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE LIKE 30 TRASH TRUCKS IN THE CITY THAT DAY AND WE JUST GO THROUGH AND BANG IT OUT.
AND I THINK TO THAT POINT, I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY EXHAUSTED OUR 1383 DISCUSSIONS.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO YES.
GOING INTO IT YET WITH THE NEW PROGRAM.
IF YOU, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THERE'S NOT ONE TRASH COMPANY THAT I KNOW OF THAT WANTS TO PICK UP FOOD IN A SEPARATE TRUCK RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE PICKING IT UP, RIDDLE ME THIS RIGHT NOW, WE GO TO COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES IN A TRUCK AND WE PUT IN WET, SLOPPY FOOD, AND WE HAVE TO DRIVE IT AROUND TOWN AND WE HAVE TO DUMP IT WITHOUT IT LEAKING.
IT'S NOT IT'S YOU, YOU, YOU CAN SAY THAT AND THERE'S NO TRICK TO IT.
BUT WE CAN'T, NOW WE HAVE TO DO IT DIFFERENT AND WE HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT VEHICLES AND THE TRUCKS HAVE TO BE SEALED DIFFERENTLY.
CHARACTERIZATIONS IMPACTED IS NOT A PRETTY, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DESIRE TO DO.
I DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU STILL WILL GET THE BENEFIT OF THE BEST RATE WHEN WE NEGOTIATE 1383, BUT THAT'S NOT TIED TO ANY OF THOSE.
THOSE ARE FOR COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
I WOULD SAY, LISTEN, WELL, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S STILL TRUE.
ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THE COMMERCIAL RATE INCREASE WILL BE LESS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY SEPARATING THE FOOD.
THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, FOR THE REAL ONE WAS FOR BUSINESSES.
NOW, LIKE THE BUSINESSES ARE ALREADY SEPARATING THEIR FOOD.
SO NOW YOU'RE NOW THE RESIDENCES ARE HAVING TO COME ON BOARD.
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CORRECT.THIS IS CALLED AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
OH, YOU'RE BEING MANDATED TO DO SOMETHING.
I ASKED YOU TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO YEAH.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S AND WE'VE DONE THEM ALL 1590.
SO, YEAH, I KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT ACROSS THE STATE, IT'S ANYWHERE FROM THREE BUCKS TO SIX BUCKS A HOME AND ANYWHERE FROM 1% TO 30% ON THE BUSINESSES, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY DID WITH, UH, UH, 1826, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BROAD STATEMENT IN CAL RECYCLE IN SOME OF, UH, THE DOCUMENTS THEY'VE EVEN SHOWN THAT IN SOME CITIES IT'S UP TO A 55% RATE INCREASE, DEPENDING ON THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE THEY HAVE.
WHAT I WANTED TO FACTUALLY BASED THIS CITY IS ALREADY SEPARATING IT'S COMMERCIAL, ORGANIC WASTE.
THE PROBLEM IS NOT EVERYBODY'S DOING IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
SO THE ORDINANCE NOW WILL HAVE WHAT THEY CALL TEETH IN IT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT.
BUT WHILE THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WEREN'T DOING IT NOW, THE RESIDENTS HAS HAVE TO DO IT TOO.
AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
AND IF YOU IT'S A LAW THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO A PLACE THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE THREE OF OURS JOB TO BRING THE BEST DEAL TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA THAT WE CAN TRYING TO MITIGATE THE COST VERSUS THE TIME VERSUS THE VALUE.
AND WE HAVEN'T DONE, WE HAVEN'T DONE IN ALL OF THE CITIES.
WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITIES WANT TO IMPLEMENT IT.
AND THAT RATE CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW THEY WANT TO IMPLEMENT IT.
LIKE I SAID, IT SIMPLY STATED YOU COULD HAVE, I'M GOING TO MAKE THESE NUMBERS UP.
WELL, I GOT A LOT OF TAKEAWAYS TONIGHT.
WE DIDN'T COME HERE WITH THE SOLUTION.
SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS TONIGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD WAS BRINGING BACK THE DISCOVER MAGAZINE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD WAS KEEP COSTS TO AN ABSOLUTE MINIMUM, BUT YOU WANT IT DONE CORRECTLY.
SO GARY AND I AND BRIAN AND ASHLEY HAVE SOME WORK TO DO.
UH, ONE, ONE THING IN OUR STEAD HERE IS THAT IN, IN ATHENS, WE HAVE A VALUABLE COMMUNITY PARTNER.
IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE AT WAR WITH OUR TRASH HOLLER HERE.
I CAN TELL YOU IN OTHER TOWNS, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER THIS FOR SOME FREAKISHLY, LOW EXPENSE PER CAPITA.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, AS HOMEOWNERS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY, UH, WHAT THAT IS AND HOW IT IS.
AND WHEN IT IS, WE'RE FIGURING THAT OUT.
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BUT W WHAT WE'RE STARTING TONIGHT.WELL, WE'LL BRING SOME COMPARATIVES, BUT WHAT WE ARE, WE ARE FIGURING THIS OUT AND WE'RE STARTING NOW.
THEIR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
THE RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO HAVE, YEAH.
RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SERVICE CHANGE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE, YES, I KNOW I'M HERE ALL NIGHT.
AND I BELIEVE IT, IT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT YEAH, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE TWO TRIPS THAN THREE, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS.
WE WILL LOOK AT THIS ENTIRE CITY AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE PROPOSE THE BEST DEAL FOR THE CITY AND WHAT THAT IS TONIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW YET, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL.
WE HAVEN'T, ALL WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO BEGIN THE ADDRESSING OF 1383.
AND HOPEFULLY THERE WON'T BE ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE.
WE'VE HAD A LOT IN THE, IN A SMALL PERIOD OF TIME.
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UH, IF YOU'RE A CITY THAT HAS A LOT OF GREEN LAWNS, IT'S GOING TO COST MORE THAN IF YOU'RE A CITY AT THE BEACH AND YOU HAVE ALL CONCRETE, BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, UH, THAT'S IN TODAY'S WORLD.YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, 30, IT JUST, ALL IT'S GOING TO DO.
IT'S BASED ON WHAT YOU THROW OUT.
AND IF THERE'S AN APPROXIMATION, THAT 20% OF WHAT YOU THROW OUT IS ORGANIC WASTE.
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE THE TONNAGE OF YOUR GREEN WASTE BY 20%.
WELL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU'RE ALLOWED TO THAT'S THING THAT I DON'T, I'M NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT BECAUSE THE TONNAGE IT'S WHERE THE TONNAGE GOES AND HOW IT GETS PROCESSED.
TRASH TONNAGE HAS A LOWER PROCESSING RATE THAN ORGANIC TONNAGE.
SO YOU'RE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS TRASH, BUT MORE, IT'S THE SAME TONNAGE AT A HIGHER PRICE, BECAUSE IT CAN'T GO TO THE TRASH LINE ANYMORE.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF THESE AND I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING RIGHT NOW WE PICK UP A LOT OF HABIT.
WE PICK UP A LOT OF AMAZON BOXES.
I CAN TELL YOU, WE RECYCLE A LOT OF AMAZON BOXES.
WELL, LISTEN, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR BEING, THANK YOU.