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SPECIAL MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 7:05 PM.WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT FOR SILENT PRAYER OR MEDITATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. ALINA, CAN YOU CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, COMMISSIONER HANG HERE.
BESERA HERE, ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.
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THIS IS A TIME WHEN A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER WITHIN THE SCOPE OF DUTIES, ASSIGNED TO THE COMMISSION RELATING TO NON AGENDIZED OR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. OTHER MATTERS INCLUDED IN THIS AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED WHEN, WHEN THAT ITEM IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ALL ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, THE CHAIRPERSON MAY IMPOSE REASONABLE LIMITATIONS ON PUBLIC COMMENTS TO ASSURE AN ORDERLY AND TIMELY MEETING THE RALPH M. BROWN ACT LIMITS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS MEETING.THUS, YOUR COMMENTS MAY BE AGENDIZED FOR A FUTURE MEETING OR REFER TO STAFF AT THE SO UP TO STAFF.
THE COMMISSION MAY ASK QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION, IF DESIRED AT THIS TIME BY POLICY OF THE COMMISSION OR COMMUNICATIONS AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES PERSONS WHO ARE NOT AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME MAY DO SO UNDER CONTINUATION OF ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.
LATER ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY OLINA WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.
MADAM CHAIR, WE SHOULD ASK FOR ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA? YEAH.
SO MY QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT GAVIN NEWSOME IS A YES VOTE, BUT I WOULD REALLY THINK TWICE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE LARRY ELDER'S GONNA WHIP HIS ASS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW GOVERNOR.
IT'S PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF LOSING THEIR JOBS AND THIS MOTION TONIGHT ON THE ORAL COMMUNICATIONS DEALS WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, REGARDING, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR, UH, BUSINESSES.
SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE TRUE.
WELL, WE'LL FIND OUT BECAUSE ZONE CHANGE 21 DASH OH ONE CHAPTER 26 OF ZONING, SECTION 26 THROUGH 5 97 DASH TWO 80 REGARDING S C NOT A SERVICE CONT, BUT A SERVICE COMMERCIAL AUTO PLAZA BUSINESS CALLED A BID OR BID.
UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING WAS THE SURVEY FOLLOW A SEQUENCE THROUGH THOUSAND NOTES SERITOS AND INDUSTRY NOW LIKE A PLACE LIKE WEST COVINA WE'RE FAR FROM THOUSAND NOTES, CAUSE LITTLE WHITE MOTHERFUCKERS HAVE IT ALL.
AND AS FAR AS CERRITOS, OH, THEY'RE IN BETWEEN.
CAUSE I MET THE MAYOR THERE BEFORE IT WAS A JACKASS AND AS FAR AS THE INDUSTRY, UM, THEY HAVE THEIR MEETINGS IN THE MORNING AND IT'S REALLY RUDE BECAUSE MOST OF US CAN CHAN THOSE MEETINGS AND WAVE IN ON OUR OPINION.
AND THAT INCLUDES BUNCH OF HILLS AUTO.
AND THEN, UH, REGARDING THE PRESENCE
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OF THIS MAINTENANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, SPEAK ABOUT HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT IF YOU DIAL NINE TO FIVE AREA CODE 5, 9, 6 1 2, 2, 2, WE'LL FIND OUT THAT THAT AREA CODE IS FAR FROM WEST COVINA OR ANYWHERE NEAR WEST COVINA OR ANYWHERE NEAR LOS ANGELES COUNTY, BUT WHO WOULD EVER KNOW THAT RIGHT? HEEL DOES EL SALISE DOESN'T KNOW HER LEFT FOOT FROM HER RIGHT FOOT.THAT'S WHY SHE'S ALWAYS TRIPPING ON THAT.
AND THEN REGARDING ATTACHMENTS, NUMBER FOUR IN YOUR, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR THIS ONE ITEM, UH, REGARDING THAT, UH, POLICY TWO, ONE, UH, I'M NOT TOO CLEAR ON IT.
AND I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE MORE, MORE TIME TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
AS FAR AS 2.4 WITH THE RESIDENTS, MOST RESIDENTS CAN ENGAGE IN IN AN HOUR AND AN AUTO, AN AUTO BUSINESS, AN AUTO PLAZA BUSINESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEVER BEEN TAKEN FOR BY, UH, A GREEDY, SELFISH UP AUTO BUSINESS OWNER.
USUALLY MOST OF THEM OWN MOST OF THE AUTOS CAR PLACES WITHIN THEIR LITTLE AREA THERE, MAYBE ABOUT MAYBE FIVE OF THEM.
I RECALL WHEN I WAS UP IN OF HILLS AND THEY TRIED TO FUCK ME OVER FOR $1,500 TO REPLACE SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED.
YOU KNOW, I REPORTED THEM AND IT WAS A GOOD DAY.
I REPORT THEM BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID I GET MY MONEY BACK, BUT NOW THEY GOT A STRIKE AGAINST THEM FOR TRYING TO BE CORRUPTED IN CRIMINAL UNDER, UNDER YOUR REGULATIONS OF PLUM OR YOUR SECRET REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW, DON'T TELL A CUSTOMER, OH YEAH, WE CAN FIX IT.
THEN YOU SPEND A WHOLE DAY WITH THE CAR SITTING ON THEIR LOT.
THEN THE DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS DON'T COME OUT AND CALL YOU TO TELL YOU, HEY, CAN YOU PLEASE KEEP YOUR LANGUAGE RESPECTFUL? PARDON ME? MA'AM YOU PLEASE KEEP YOUR LANGUAGE RESPECTFUL.
UH, WELL, MY LANGUAGE IS, IS NOT THE MEDIAN OF WHAT I'M DISCUSSING THE MEDIA.
AND WHAT I'M DISCUSSING IS, UH, SOME JACKASS AT A POINT TO HILLS, TRY TO BE A DOUCHE BAG.
AND ROB ME THINKING THAT I WAS RETARDED, STUPID INCOHERENT AND A JACKASS LIKE HIM UNTIL I REPORTED HIM.
ALL RIGHT, THAT DOESN'T LOOK VERY GOOD.
WHEN YOU'RE A SALESMAN, FUCKED UP 1500 LED MEET YOU A $220 OUT OF MY POCKET.
SEE, I COULD'VE GONE TO SMALL CLAIMS AND FUCKED THEM OVER 10,000, BUT I'M NOT GREETING.
I JUST TOLD THE GENTLEMEN FROM THE BETTER BUREAU BUSINESS THAT, HEY, JUST MAKE THE ASSHOLE APOLOGIZE AND RETURN MY MONEY.
AND IN THE FUTURE, DON'T FUCK WITH PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY'RE STUPID.
UH, MS. BISSERA IS YOUR NAME? YES, MA'AM.
UM, UM, I'M EXERCISING MY 42 USC, 1983, UM, FREE SPEECH AND UNDER THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION UNDER THE BROWN ACT, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE HARSH WORDS IN THERE, BUT DON'T, DON'T DISRUPT THE SPEAKER AND MY MINIMAL TIME OF JUST FIVE MINUTES.
CAUSE I COULD BE HERE ALL NIGHT USING PROFANITY, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO USE PROFANITY.
THAT'S JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE WAY I'M THINKING AND SPEAKING FOR THE RECORD.
ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM.
THIS CONCERNS, THE PERSON APPLYING OR THIS EXEMPTION.
MIKE GREENSPAN BRUIN BAD KICKING, FLIRTY GATOR, BUT HERE I'M HERE TO KICK SOME BUTT ON THE ISSUE.
THE EXEMPTION IS WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE RULES, BUCK YOU CITY.
WE WANT TO HAVE A USED CAR LOT IN THE MIDST OF ALL THESE WONDERFUL VEHICLES, NICE EXPENSIVE VEHICLES, BRAND NEW, EVER OWNED BY ANYBODY.
BUT THE DEALER LO AND BEHOLD, IT COMES TO THIS COMPANY CALLED ENTERPRISE.
AND THEY'RE VERY ENTERPRISING EVEN TO THE POINT THAT THEY, THE LAW JUST DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM.
AFTER ALL, WHEN YOU HAVE AN AUTO ROW, YOU HAVE USED VEHICLES, THEY HAVE LESS THAN A HUNDRED MILES ON THEM.
AND WE'RE WANTING TO SET UP A, A USED CAR LOT THAT HAS VEHICLES WITH
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25, 30, 30 5,000 MILES OLD.NOW I'VE WORKED WITH RENTAL CAR COMPANIES BEFORE ACTION AUTO RENTAL RESERVE.
THEY WERE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY A REPLACEMENT FOR ENTERPRISE, BUT WE WERE NOT A GENERAL USE, BUT WE WERE THE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES.
SOME YOU GET YOUR VEHICLE SMASHED UP AND IT'S IN THE SHOP.
YOU WOULD CALL A COMPANY LIKE US.
WE'D BRING A VEHICLE OUT, I'D DRIVE IT.
THERE I'D HAVE A LITTLE TOW CAR.
YOU'D DO THE PAPERWORK I LEAVE IN THE TOW CAR.
SO THE REPLACEMENT CAR BUSINESS IS A VERY GOOD BUSINESS BECAUSE WE ALL WANT OUR VEHICLES.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MANAGER TOLD ME WAS, YES, THEY'VE GOT MONEY BECAUSE THEY CAN ALWAYS SELL THEIR VEHICLES.
THEY LOOK AT THEIR VEHICLES AS CASHFLOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SOLD YET, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE STILL BEING USED BY THE CUSTOMERS.
AND SO THOSE ARE VERY GOOD THINGS.
THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO JUST ALBUM.
SOME, A NEIGHBOR OF MINE RENTED A VEHICLE CAUSE HIS WAS IN THE SHOP.
HE WANTED TO BUY IT, BUT HE GOT SUCH A RUNAROUND BY THE RENTAL CAR COMPANY.
HE JUST WENT BACK TO HIS VEHICLE THAT HE HAD ONCE IT GOT REPAIRED.
SO THE MAIN THING IS, INSTEAD OF SETTING UP A USED CAR, LOT, YOU SHOULD USE THE CARVANA TYPE THING.
OR YOU COULD EVEN HAVE SOMETHING AS AT YOUR BUSINESS.
IF YOU WANT TO BUY A VEHICLE, CALL THIS NUMBER, GIVE THE LICENSE PLATE IF POSSIBLE, OR THE, THE MAKE AND MODEL AND LOCATION.
AND THEN THEY COULD GET THAT VEHICLE FOR THEM.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SET UP A USED CAR LOT AND AN EYESORE RIGHT? IN THE, OF ALL THESE CARS TO THE FAILURE JALOPIES WHO WANTS THEIR JALOPY.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SPEND AND YOU CAN GET A NEW VEHICLE OR A USED VEHICLE, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU GET? YOU GET A USED VEHICLE AND YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE PROBLEMS. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THAT HOOD UNLESS YOU'VE GOT A GOOD MECHANIC TO TELL YOU USED CAR SALESMAN ARE NOT THE MOST RELIABLE FACT.
WHEN I YEARS AGO, SOMEONE DID A SURVEY AND THEY SAID REAL ESTATE SALESMAN ARE ONE STEP ABOVE A USED CAR SALESMAN.
AND DURING THE NIXON DAYS, THERE WOULD BE POSTERS.
WOULD YOU BUY A USED CAR FROM THIS MAN? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WOULD.
SO THE CONNOTATION OF A USED CAR IS A BAD CONNOTATION AND YOU DON'T NEED TO BE PUTTING EYESORES IN THE MIDST OF A NICE AUTO ROW AREA.
I HAD A PROBLEM WITH ENTERPRISE.
I TRIED TO RENT A CAR AND I WAS GETTING OFF IN NORTH FLORIDA AND MY FLIGHT WOULDN'T LAND TILL 10 55.
I EVEN CALLED THE ENTERPRISE RECORDING AND THEY SAID THEIR COUNTER WAS OPEN AT THE AIRPORT TIL ONE 30 UNTIL I ACTUALLY CALLED THEM, GOT A LIVE PERSON WHO TOLD ME I MADE THE RESERVATION OR YOU HAVE TO PICK IT UP BY 10.
I SAID, BUT MY WIFE DOESN'T LAND UNTIL 10 55.
IT WAS LIKE TALKING TO THAT WALL OVER THERE.
NOW IF THEY CAN'T KEEP A RENTAL CAR COUNTER OPEN, IMAGINE WHAT THEY WOULD DO WHEN SELLING YOU A USED CAR, THE OLD THING SAY ANYTHING TO MAKE THE SALE.
WELL, IT HAS A LIMITED WARRANTY, BUT THEN WHEN YOU TRY TO GO IN THERE TO CASH IN ON THAT WARRANTY, BECAUSE THEY SOLD YOU A FUCKED UP CAR, GUESS WHAT? TOUGH SHIT, TOO BAD FUCKER.
AND THAT'S THE WAY YOU USE CAR COMPANIES ARE AT LEAST YOU GET A NEW CAR.
YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST A THREE-YEAR WARRANTY, MAYBE A SEVEN YEAR WARRANTY DEPENDING ON THE COMPANY.
BUT WITH ENTERPRISE, ALL YOU'RE GETTING IS FUCKED.
AND I JUST THINK THAT THEY OUGHT TO GO BACK WHERE THEY BELONG TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND TAKE THEIR EYESORE WITH THEM.
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ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN A NON AGENDIZED ITEM? ONLY NICK, CAN WE GET THE STAFF REPORT WILL PRESENT GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.I WILL START OFF THE PRESENTATION AND JOANNE AND I, UH, WILL, WE'LL BE GIVING THE PRESENTATION JOINTLY THIS EVENING.
UM, IS IT UP? SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE OVERLAY ZONE FOR THE AUTO PLAZA, UM, AREA IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, IT'S A CONTINUANCE OF THE, OR, UH, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED THIS ITEM TO YOU.
SO THIS IS THE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES THAT
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WE ARE LOOKING TO, UH, PLACE THE OVERLAY ZONE ON.THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT, UH, COME RISE OF THE WEST COVINA AUTO PLAZA, BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY ZONED SERVICE COMMERCIAL, UM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST BROADEST ZONINGS, UH, ZONING, UM, IN THE CITY.
UH, IT ALLOWS FOR THE BROADEST AMOUNT OF USES WITHIN THIS, UH, ZONE.
UM, SO NEXT SLIDE, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT THE AUTO PLAZA BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
IT WAS STARTED THE 1980S AS THE WEST COVINA AUTO PLAZA.
UM, THERE WAS GUIDELINES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BY THE, UM, CITY AND THE FORMER REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ESTABLISHING IT AS A DISTRICT FOR NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS.
UM, IT WASN'T UNTIL 1993 THAT THE AUTO PLAZA BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED AND IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN ORDER FOR THE, UH, DEALERSHIPS WITHIN THE DISTRICT TO, UM, UH, START ASSESSING THEMSELVES SO THAT THEY CAN PAY TOWARDS, UH, THE READER BOARD SIGN THAT YOU SEE TODAY.
UM, IT WASN'T UNTIL I THINK 2015 THAT THE, UH, AUTO PLAZA, UH, CAME TO THE CITY AND ASKED FOR ANOTHER LOAN OR AN ALONE TO THAT THEY CAN UPGRADE, UH, THE READER BOARD TO AN LED, UM, SIGN, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE TODAY.
UM, SO WITHIN THE AUTO PLAZA, UH, THERE ARE SEVEN DISTRICTS BENEFITS ZONES, AND THEY'RE ASSESSED ANNUALLY TO COVER THE EXPENSES OF THE AUTO PLAZA, UH, UH, READER, BOARD, AND, UH, MANAGING THE BID.
THEY'RE ALSO, UM, THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THE AUTO PLAZA COVENANTS THAT WERE PLACED ON PROPERTY OR, UH, OPERATORS WITHIN THE AUTO PLAZA THAT RESTRICTED IT TO NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS, ONLY SECOND SIDE.
UM, THE, UH, THE CITY RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE AUTO PLAZA BID FOR AN OVERLAY ZONE IN JULY.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO INITIATE THE CODE AMENDMENT IN THE ZONE CHANGE AT THE JULY 20TH MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE PROPOSED CHANGES, UM, AT THE AUGUST 24TH MEETING AND REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
AND THEN TONIGHT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RULE WOULD REVIEW THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, UM, WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE AUTO PLAZA CONSISTS OF SEVEN DEALERSHIP PROPERTIES, UH, WHICH EQUALS THERE'S SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE BID ON MAY 26, THE AUTO PLAZA BID HELD ITS ANNUAL MEETING TO PLACE THE ASSESSMENTS, UM, TO VOTE ON THE ANNUAL BUDGET, UH, TO PLACE THE ASSESSMENTS ON THEIR PROPERTIES AND ISSUES, UH, OR DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE ISSUES OF THE AUTO PLAZA WERE BROUGHT UP SUBSEQUENTLY THE JULY 6TH MEETING WITH THE, UH, AUTO PLAZA, BAD, UH, WAS HELD, UH, AND IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THE OVERLAY ZONE AT THAT MEETING.
IT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE BID MEMBERS THAT VOTED TO SUBMIT THE REQUEST TO THE CITY FOR THE, UH, OVERLAY ZONE.
UM, JUST, UH, SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE WANTED TO SHARE, UM, BASED ON AVERAGES.
UM, THESE ARE THE AVERAGES THAT EACH OF THE USES WOULD PROVIDE, UM, IN THE, UH, AUTO PLAZA OR, UH, THESE ARE, UH, ANTICIPATED, UH, ANNUAL SALES TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY BASED ON THE USE.
SO AS YOU COULD SEE, A CAR RENTAL IS 15 TO TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND.
A USED CAR DEALERSHIP CAN RANGE BETWEEN 1 25 TO ONE 75,000 AND A NEW CAR DEALERSHIP, UM, BETWEEN 400 AND UPWARDS OF 500,000 A YEAR THAT THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE AN ANNUAL SALES TAX.
SO I BELIEVE I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOANNE THE PLANNING MANAGER.
NOW, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION TO THIS CHART THAT THESE FIGURES ARE OBTAINED FROM HDL, THE CITY'S BUSINESS LICENSE, UH, CONSULTANT SERVICES.
AND IT IS AN AVERAGE THEY PROVIDED AS AN AVERAGE FIGURE FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
SO STAFF DID A SURVEY OF CITIES, FOR INSTANCE, UM, CITIES THAT ALLOW NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS.
SINCE, SINCE WE'VE, WE ONLY HAD A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO DO THE SURVEY.
WE CALLED MANY DIFFERENT CITIES, AND THESE ARE THE THREE CITIES THAT RESPONDED TO US RIGHT AWAY, SAME DAY OR THE DAY AFTER, UM, I MADE THE PHONE CALL OR SENT THE EMAIL.
SO THE CITY OF INDUSTRY ALLOWS FOR NEW ONLY ALLOWS ONLY FOR NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS IN THEIR AUTO PLAZA.
UH, THEY, THEY DO ALLOW FOR USED VEHICLE, UM, AS A TRADE IN AND USES THAT ARE AUTO-RELATED ARE ONLY ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE NEW CAR DEALERSHIP IN THE CITY OF INDUSTRIES, AUTO PLAZA AREA, AS FAR AS THE CITY OF CERRITOS IS CONCERNED, THE CITY OF SURREY DOES ONLY ALLOWS
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NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS BY RIGHT IN THEIR CERRITOS AUTO SQUARE.ALL OTHER VEHICLE RELATED USES REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE CITY OF THOUSAND OAKS.
ALL USES ALL USES THAT ARE GOING IN THEIR AUTO PLAZA AREA, WHETHER IT'S A NEW CAR DEALERSHIP OR USED CAR DEALERSHIP REQUIRE, UM, REQUIRES A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
THERE IS NO BUYER, RIGHT, UM, USE ALLOWED WITHIN THEIR AUTO DEALERSHIP.
SO THEY REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A DIRECTOR'S REVIEW, IF IT'S LESS THAN IF IT'S MORE THAN 400 FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, OR IF IT'S, IF IT, I'M SORRY, IF IT'S LESS THAN 400 FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, IT'S A DIRECTOR'S REVIEW.
AND IF IT'S MORE THAN 400 FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, IT REQUIRES PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW, AS POLINA MENTIONED EARLIER, OR SERVICE OR THE SERVICE COMMERCIAL ZONING IT'S THE SERVICE COMMERCIAL ZONING ALLOWS A BROAD RANGE OF PERMITTED USES, WHICH ARE CONSIDERED BY A REIT.
AND CURRENTLY THOSE USES RANGE FROM RETAIL TO MORTUARIES, UM, REV REC PRO GRAPHICS, COMMERCIAL LAUNDRY SERVICES, AND SO FORTH.
SO THESE ARE OUR ONLY EXAMPLES OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE SERVICE COMMERCIAL ZONE BY RIGHTS IN CURRENTLY THE AUTO PLAZA THAT WAS GIVEN AN AUTO PLAZA AREA AREA IS ZONED AS SERVICE COMMERCIAL.
SO IF ANY OF THESE USES WERE TO GO IN THERE AND, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO INVOLVE ANY MAJOR CONSTRUCTION AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE ABLE TO GO THERE BY YOUR RIGHT I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO OVER SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT.
THE DRAFT CODE AMENDMENT PERMITTED USES ONLY, ONLY NEW CAR VEHICLE SALES ARE PERMITTED BY, UM, WOULD BE PERMITTED BY REITS.
OTHER ACCESSORY USES ARE ALLOWED, BUT ONLY IT AS AN ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY USE, WHICH IS NEW VEHICLE SALES DONE BY A MAJOR FRANCHISE OR, OR DONE BY THE MANUFACTURER OF THE VEHICLE ITSELF.
X, UM, SALES OF USED CARS ARE ALLOWED, BUT ONLY 30% OF THE TOTAL INVENTORY OF THE VEHICLES ON SITE.
UM, TEMPORARY USES ARE ALLOWED.
THE ONLY TEMPORARY USE ALLOWED IS FILMING, BUT IT'S ONLY FILMING FOR THE DEALERSHIP ADVERTISEMENT ITSELF.
SO ALL OTHER FILMING WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AS PART OF THIS, UM, JEFF CODE AMENDMENT.
THERE WERE SOME CONCERNED WITH SECURITY AT NIGHT, UM, DUE TO, UH, TRANSIENCE.
SO ONE OF THE REQUESTS INVOLVED SECURITY LIGHTING, SO LIGHT STANDARDS OR POLES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE LIT UNTIL NINE FROM SUNSET UNTIL 9:00 PM AND DENVER LIGHTINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE ON FROM 9:00 PM TO SUNRISE.
AND THERE IS ALSO A, A STATEMENT IN THIS, IN, IN THIS CODE SECTION OR IN THIS PROPOSED CODE SECTION THAT REFERS TO THE NON, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONES BEING, UM, W BEING, UM, OR BEING REQUIRED TO BE ADHERE TO IF THERE WAS ANY DEVELOPMENT ON SITE, OTHER CHANGES WOULD BE THE FILM PERMIT SECTION IT'S TO CROSS REFERENCE THE, UM, THE PROPOSED OVERLAY ZONE SECTION.
SO THAT, SO THAT, UM, IT'S, IT WOULD BE EASIER TO FIND AND THERE WOULD BE NO CONFUSION.
AND, UM, AND ALSO THERE'S ALSO A CROSS-REFERENCE IN THE NON-RESIDENTIAL USE SECTION FOR THE SAME REASON.
IF THIS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ZONE CHANGE 21 0 1 AND CODE AMENDMENT 21 0 1, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PAULINA, UM, IVY AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
JOANNE, DOES THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'LL GO ONE BY ONE, UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. UM, I DO.
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NOW IF I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS, THE FIRST, UM, WHAT DATE WAS THE OVER OVERLAY ZONE REQUESTS FILED WITH THE CITY? WHAT DATE WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OR WAS IT TAKEN TO CITY COUNCIL? I APOLOGIZE.THE ACTUAL PAPERWORK SUBMITTED FORMALLY TO THE CITY.
I THINK SHE'S LOOKING FOR THAT INFORMATION COMMISSIONER.
SHE SAID IN JULY, JOANNE'S VERIFYING THAT.
SHE'S VERIFYING THE INFORMATION.
UM, WHILE I GO AHEAD AND LOOK FOR LIKE, LOOK THROUGH MY RECORDS, UM, IF YOU CAN ASK THE OTHER QUESTIONS.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION, UM, IS WHAT DATE WAS THE CUP APPLICATION FILED? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AS, UH, JOANNE IS LOOKING FOR THE INFORMATION JUST TO REMINDER TO, TO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT THE ENTERPRISE CUP IS NOT BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT AND AS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE APPLICATION.
COMMITTEE, COMMISSIONER, HANG, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WILLIAM, DO YOU HAVE A LAST OR WE'LL JUST GO, OH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. SORRY.
SO THE APPLICATION I BELIEVE WAS SUBMITTED AUGUST 4TH FOR THE OVERLAY ZONE.
SO THE APPLICATION BY THE, UH, AUTO PLAZA BID WAS SUBMITTED THAT DAY.
WE SHOULD HAVE WILLIAMS. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, AND THE LAST LAST ONE THAT I HAD WAS DEPENDING ON THE OPTION THAT THE COMMISSION TAKES THIS EVENING, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE OVERLAY ZONE, UM, REQUEST IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL, MY QUESTION WAS, UM, WHAT WOULD THE RAMIFICATIONS BE OR THE CUP APPLE PATIENT THAT HAD BEEN SUBMITTED? WELL, AS YOU KNOW, TONIGHT, YOU'RE, YOU'LL BE MAKING A LAND USE BASED RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL THEN APPROVE THE CODE AMENDMENT.
UM, ASSUMING THAT IT DOES GO ON, DO YOU WANT TO, I MEAN, THE, THIS, THIS BASICALLY AGAIN, THE ENTERPRISE SEAT, BY THE WAY, THE ENTERPRISE, UH, CP APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED AUGUST 12TH.
UM, SO IT'S EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS IT'S BEING PROCESSED JUST, UH, WITH JUST AS ANY OTHER APPLICATION WOULD BE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S SO EARLY, UM, TIMELINES ARE UNCERTAIN.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL WAS GOING TO DO WITH THIS ZONING CODE AMENDMENT.
SO WE REALLY CANNOT DELINEATE WITH ANY CERTAINTY WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS WOULD BE.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT'S A HOLD THE CUP APPLICATION IS ITS OWN INDEPENDENT PROCESS.
WE DON'T KNOW, UM, WHEN IT WILL BE A COMPLETED APPLICATION, HOW LONG IT WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO WE REALLY CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR CERTAIN.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HANK, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, YES, I DO.
UM, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU REGARDING, COULD YOU PULL UP THE MAP AGAIN, THE OVERLAY? IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE PINK DOT AREA.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS AT RED DOT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UH, RIGHT THERE WHERE JOANNE HAS THE RED BLINKER? YES, THAT'S THE GAS STATION.
AND SO THAT THAT'S NOT ZONED AS SERVICE COMMERCIAL, THAT'S ZONED AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, SO THAT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE OVERLAY ZONE.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS, UM, WHAT WAS THE USE? CAN YOU SHOW ME ON THE MAP AGAIN? JOANNE, I'M SORRY.
WHICH, UM, SO WHICH LOT IS IT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IS NOT IN USE CURRENTLY? WELL, NOT UNUSED MEANING, SO THAT, THAT IS VACANT.
IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? CORRECT.
SO AS FAR AS, UM, USES THAT ARE VACANT, IT IS THE TEAL,
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THE TEAL AND THE YELLOW ARE CURRENT NUMBERS.THIS IS THE FORMER DRIVE TIME DEALERSHIP.
SO THOSE ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN USE.
WHAT WAS IT USED BEFORE? THEY WERE USED AS CAR DEALERSHIPS IN THE PAST? SO BEFORE NUMBER SEVEN WAS DRIVE TIME, IT USED TO BE A HUMMER DEALERSHIP.
AND BEFORE, UM, NUMBER THREE WAS VACANT, IT USED, IT WAS A, UM, CLIPPINGER CHEVROLET.
SO IT WAS NEVER USED FOR THE USED CAR.
SO NUMBER SEVEN WAS MOST RECENTLY DRIVE TIME, WHICH WAS A USED CAR DEALERSHIP, BUT BEFORE IT WAS DRIVE TIME, IT WAS A HUMMER CAR DEALERSHIP, WHICH WAS A NEW CAR DEALERSHIP.
I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT SINCE THE AREA THAT WAS CREATED SINCE THE EIGHTIES, WAS THERE ANY OTHER USE BESIDES CAR DEALERSHIP? CAUSE THIS WHOLE AREA WAS SORT OF LIKE COME TOGETHER AND FORM AN AUTO DEALERSHIP SINCE THE EIGHTIES 83 OR SO.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION IS, WAS THERE ANY OTHER USE BESIDES CAR DEALERSHIPS OR USED CAR DEALERSHIP? OKAY.
UM, AS DURING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE AUTO PLAZA, THEY STARTED ACQUIRING PROPERTIES TO CREATE WHAT WE SEE TODAY AS THE AUTO PLAZA AREA, THE BID, UM, THERE WERE PREVIOUSLY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WERE ACQUIRED, BUT AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL USES, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DRIVETIME AS A USED CAR DEALERSHIP.
THERE HASN'T BEEN LIKE A, FROM MY, FROM MY KNOWLEDGE THERE WASN'T A SHOPPING CENTER THAT WAS THERE, IT WAS RESIDENTIAL THAT WAS ACQUIRED TO CREATE THE AUTO PLAZA.
AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE IS THAT CURRENTLY THE ZONING CODE HAS AN S C, WHICH IS SERVICE COMMERCIAL.
SO CAN YOU PULL UP THAT LIST AGAIN? THE SOMA, SO IT'S COMMERCIAL.
SO I GUESS THE SERVICE COMMERCIAL HAS RETAIL USE FROM A RETAILERS TO, TO MORTUARY.
THAT'S A HUGE SPECT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES THAT CAN GO IN THERE.
AND I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK IS THAT IF WE WERE AFTER TONIGHT, WHETHER IT'S, UM, HAVING AN OPEN APARTMENT OVERLAY, SO RIGHT NOW FROM A WIDE SPECTRUM OF WHAT USES THAT THEY CAN DO TO ONLY, UM, NEW CAR USE, NOT EVEN USE CAR USE, IS THAT CORRECT? THE OVERLAY, THE OVERLAY WOULD RESTRICTED TO NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS WITH THE ACCESSORY OF A USED CAR DEALERSHIP.
SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO USED CAR DEALERSHIP SALES AS LONG AS IT'S ACCESSORY TO THE FORMER USE OF NEW CAR DEALERSHIP.
AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER, THE OTHER PORTION WAS THE FILM USE INSTEAD OF LIKE PRIOR TO THIS OVERLAY, I GUESS, UM, THEY CAN DO OTHER FILMS. AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT OTHER FILMS, I DON'T KNOW.
SO I THINK JOANNE CAN SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THE CITY DOES ALLOW FILMING IN THE CITY.
AND SO THERE IS A PERMIT THAT'S REQUIRED, UM, WITHIN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, THE BOUNDARIES, UM, I GUESS, UH, THE, UH, THE AUTO PLAZA VID MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, FILMING AT THOSE LOCATIONS CREATES, UM, CONCERNS FOR THEM BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC AND PARKING AND, UM, ACCESSIBILITY TO THEIR DEALERSHIPS FOR THEIR, UH, VENDORS.
AND I THINK THAT THEY CAN SPEAK MORE TO THE ISSUES THAT THE, UH, FILMING CAUSES THE AUTO PLAZA.
I GUESS I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF LIKE, HOW MANY IS IT USED AS A STUDIOS OR IT'S JUST ONCE IN A WHILE USE OR WHAT IS IT, UM, AS FAR AS FILMING IS CONCERNED, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FILMING IN THE, IN THE CODE.
ONE IS THAT JUST A FILM PERMIT APPLICATION, WHICH ALLOWS FOR FIVE DAYS OF FILMING EVERY 60 DAYS IN THERE, ONE, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS, IS WHAT'S CALLED A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE TYPE OF FILMING, WHICH ALLOW, WHICH REQUIRES BASICALLY A MONTH A MONTH NOTICE OF APPROXIMATELY A MONTH'S NOTICE TO THE CITY.
UM, AND IT MAY REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL.
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NOT HAVE A LIMITATION IT'S WHATEVER THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD APPROVE, BUT AGAIN, BUT MOST OF THE FILMING IN, IN, IN THIS AREA REQUIRED JUST REQUIRES A FILM PERMIT BECAUSE, BECAUSE, UM, IT'S, IT'S TYPICALLY COMMERCIALS THAT ARE APPLICATIONS FOR COMMERCIALS THAT ARE FILMED AND THEY DON'T TYPICALLY PLAN, UM, A MONTH AHEAD OF TIME.SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA RIGHT NOW, THE TWO, THE TWO LOT THAT, UM, IT'S IN QUESTIONS ARE THEY'RE BEING USED AS A FILM OFTEN, OR JUST HOW MANY TIMES IT WAS THAT LAST YEAR WAS WHATEVER THE CODE ALLOWS FOR REGULAR FILM PERMITS, WHICH IS FIVE DAYS, FIVE DAYS OF FILMING, NOT COUNTING SETUP OR, OR CLEAN OR CLEAN UP, WHICH TYPICALLY LASTS ALSO LIKE AROUND, UM, UH, TWO TO FIVE DAYS.
UH, AND, AND IT'S ALLOWED EVERY 60 DAYS AND COMMISSIONER HANK, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE OVERLAY ZONE.
SO ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT AREA WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THIS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT WAS IT, WHAT WAS IT PRIOR TO THIS OVERLAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE RESTRICTIONS? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT, IS THIS PARTICULAR TWO LOCATIONS BEING USED AS A FEMME STUDIOS? OR WHAT WAS IT BEING USED FOR IN THE PAST? YEAH, IF IT, THE, THE, THE FILM PERMIT IT'S A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, UH, LIKE A FILM.
I MEAN, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT'S THE SPEAKER SAY, BUT THE FILM PERMIT IS, IS MEANT TO BE A TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR FILMING PURPOSES.
AND, UM, PERMANENT FILM STUDIOS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THIS LOOK IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND TO ANSWER COMMISSIONER WILLIAM'S QUESTION EARLIER, UM, THE, THE LETTER, UM, REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL INITIATION OF THE CODE AMENDMENT WAS RECEIVED BY STAFF ON SI ON JULY 6TH, 2020 21.
THE, IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 20TH, 2021 WHEN COUNCIL INITIATED THE CODE AMENDMENT AND HE ENTERPRISE APPLICATION CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION, WHICH IS NOT A SUBJECT OF TODAY'S AGENDA WAS SUBMITTED ON AUGUST 12TH, 2021 COMMISSIONER.
HANK, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? JUST ONE LAST QUESTIONS.
UM, WE GOT IN THE SERVICE COMMERCIALS VERSUS THE NEW AUTO OVERLAY.
I GUESS IF THE CODES, IF IT WAS CHANGE, THEN THERE'S NO OTHER OPTIONS TO HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS BESIDES NEW CAR USE THAT, THOSE PARTICULAR ZONE.
SO COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU, AFTER YOU HEAR THE PUBLIC TONIGHT, AS YOU DELIBERATE IN THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU RESTRICTS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS REQUESTING THE ZONE CHANGE TO RESTRICT IT TO NEW AUTO USES.
HOWEVER, THIS COMMISSION, NO, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
THIS COMMISSION COULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL, OR COULD RECOMMEND SOME MODIFICATION IF YOU WISH, UM, OR MODIFICATIONS TO BE CONSIDERED.
SO THAT CAN BE FACTORED INTO YOUR DELIBERATIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, MY, MY MAIN QUESTION GOES TOWARD, UH, I, MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ON CERTAIN PARCELS OF THE PROPOSED OVERLAY ZONE, WHICH, UH, WHICH LIMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PARCELS TO NEW AUTO DEALERSHIPS, WHICH SPECIFIC PARCELS ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THAT.
I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW THE PARCEL NUMBERS, BUT I BELIEVE THEY WERE FOR THE PARCEL FOR THE DEALERSHIP, UH, UM, THE FORMER DRIVE TIME AND THEN THE CLIP AND CHEVROLET, AND I BELIEVE THE, UM, OR DEALERSHIP SHEPHERDS.
ARE THOSE, ARE THOSE COVENANTS STILL IN PLACE? I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND, AND WHO, WHO HOLDS THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE THOSE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS? I BELIEVE THEY WERE CITY.
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UM, I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. TUCK, HADN'T MADE REFERENCE TO ONE OF THE LOTS AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.YOU SAID THE TEAL AND THE YELLOW ARE THE ONES IN QUESTION.
SO ONE OF THEM IS LARGER THAN THE OTHER.
WHERE WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PERHAPS MAYBE DIVIDE THEM OR MOVE THE PROPERTY LINES TO MAKE IT MORE FUNCTIONAL? THE LINE ADJUSTMENT PROCESS IS SINCE THEY, THEY BOTH OWNED BOTH PARCELS.
THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT PROCESS IS ADMIN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS DONE PROCESSED BY OUR ENGINEERING DIVISION.
SO YES, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.
I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE, UM, SINCE, UM, COMMISSIONER LEWIS BROUGHT UP RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, WHAT IS THAT RESTRICTIVE COVENANT? IS THAT JUST A COVENANT TO DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS COMMISSIONERS? WE DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU TONIGHT, BUT IT IS, THAT'S NOT REALLY WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION OR PURVIEW ANYWAY.
SO, UM, YOU'RE REALLY HERE TO MAKE A LAND USE DECISION TONIGHT AND A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU THAT INFORMATION, UM, BUT IT, THAT THE COVENANTS, UM, THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE LAND USE DECISION BEFORE YOU, THANK YOU AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, IF YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP.
YOUR, YOUR STATEMENTS ARE ON RECORD, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO, UM, I'M SORRY, UH, CHAIR, IF I MAY.
UM, IF IT, UH, THERE WAS, THERE WERE A FEW REQUEST RECEIVED, UM, BY, BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM THE VARIOUS CAR DEALERSHIP OWNERS TO SPEAK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD, HAD MET OR SPOKE TO ANY OF THESE CAR DEALERSHIP OWNERS, UM, RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME TO, TO BRING UP THAT DISCUSSION ON WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
HAVE ANY OF THE COMMISSION OR SPOKE, SPOKEN WITH ANYONE FROM EITHER PARTY? I'M SORRY, IF WE WERE TO MEET UP WITH ANY OF THE DEALERSHIPS WE HAVE TO DISCUSS ABOUT OUR MEETING.
JUST SO TO BRIEFLY DISCLOSE YOUR COMMUNICATIONS, UM, IF YOU'VE MET WITH ANY, ANY OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED, UM, AND, AND, AND RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION THAT MIGHT FACTOR INTO YOUR DECISION TONIGHT, AND YOU SHOULD DISCLOSE THAT, WELL, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO MEET UP WITH ANY PARTY AT ALL.
SO, WELL, WE'LL JUST ASK EVERYONE TO INDIVIDUALLY.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS TO DISCLOSE IF THEY HAVE HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PERTAINING TO THE APPLICATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. NO, I HAVE HAD NO COMMUNICATION WITH EITHER PARTIES.
WE SHOULDN'T HANG, I HAVE NOT VICE CHAIR LEWIS.
I'VE HAD NO COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY DEALERSHIPS PERTAINING TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IN FRONT OF US NOR HAS CHAIR.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'M SORRY, WE, NOW WE CAN PROCEED PRESENTATION.
I'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH, I CAN GUIDE YOU THROUGH THE SLIDES AS I SPEAK.
IF THAT'S PREFERABLE, MY NAME'S BECCA VEGAS, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING SIMON SATURDAY, AND HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE BID, AND I'M ALSO OWNER OF ENVISION MOTORS.
SO I'M, I'VE BEEN PRIVY TO THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND ALL THE CONVERSATIONS.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY.
I WANTED TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE BELIEVE A NEW CAR DEALER MEANS TO WEST COVINA.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF
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THE OVERLAY ZONE.AND I ALSO WANTED TO REVIEW THE OVERALL IMPACT OF THE AUTO PLAZA ON THE AUTO PLAZA.
IS EVERYONE HAVING AN OKAY TIME HEARING ME? OKAY.
SO ONTO THE SLIDE THAT SAYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
SO I'M SIMON
WE CREATED ENVISION MOTORS AND, UM, SIMON SATURDAY IS HERE WITH US TODAY.
HE'S BEEN IN THE AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS FOR OVER 32 YEARS AND HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL THE MANUFACTURERS, AS WELL AS HAVING A LOT OF SUCCESS IN THE RETAIL CAR BUSINESS.
NOW HE'S BEEN AWARDED BEST OF THE BEST IN SIMILAR AWARDS WITH MERCEDES-BENZ AUDI AND ALL THE MANUFACTURERS THAT HE'S WORKED WITH.
UM, FRANK SURABI, HIS BUSINESS PARTNER HAS BEEN, UM, HE'S PRESIDENT OF, UH, FAM BRANDS.
HE'S BEEN A LEADER IN THAT, UM, UM, MANUFACTURING APPAREL INDUSTRY OVER 30 YEARS, AND ALSO HAS ACHIEVED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BUSINESS SUCCESS.
UM, JUST IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, HE'S ACQUIRED SIX BUSINESSES BETWEEN 10 AND $80 BILLION, EXCUSE ME, $80 MILLION IN SALES.
UM, AS ENVISION MOTORS, THEY'VE ACQUIRED EIGHT DEALERSHIPS, FOUR OF THEM HERE IN WEST COVINA, AND JUST THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, AND THEY'RE POISED TO ACQUIRE SEVERAL ADDITIONAL DEALERSHIPS THIS YEAR, WHICH MEANS THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WITH FIVE DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS TO BE GRANTED A NEW CAR FRANCHISE, WHICH IS, UH, A REALLY BIG DEAL.
UM, I SPENT THE LAST 14 YEARS OF MY CAREER WITH MERCEDES-BENZ PRIVY TO A LOT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW A NEW CAR DEALERSHIP IS, IS GRANTED A FRANCHISE.
SO THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT WITH FIVE MANUFACTURERS SO FAR.
UM, SO THEY HAVE EIGHT DEALERSHIPS CURRENTLY AND ARE LOOKING TO GROW THIS YEAR.
THE REVENUE THIS YEAR WILL BE OVER ONE, $1.1 BILLION.
UM, ALSO HERE WITH US TODAY IS JEN.
WHO'S THE GENERAL MANAGER FROM NORM REESE HONDA HERE IN WEST COVINA.
AND THEY'D BEEN PART OF THE WEST COVINA COMMUNITY SINCE 1999.
THEY EMPLOY OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE HERE IN WEST COVINA, AND THEY SELL MORE THAN 6,000 CARS A YEAR GENERATING A HUNDRED MILLION $90 MILLION IN ANNUAL REVENUE.
UM, ALSO JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, ENVISION MOTORS JUST PURCHASED 95 ACRES DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY OF CARSON.
SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY LOVE TO WORK WITH THE CITIES.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT A NEW CAR FRANCHISE MEANS TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
UM, WE KNOW THAT NEW CAR DEALERS EMPLOYS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EMPLOYEES THAN USED CAR DEALERS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, SAYS HERE 500, I THINK WE'RE GETTING ACTUALLY CLOSE TO 600 EMPLOYEES, UM, HERE IN THE AUTO PLAZA.
AND MOST OF THEM ARE WEST COVINA RESIDENTS.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT SEEMED UNCLEAR FOR SOME OF THE PREVIOUS COMMUNICATIONS, AND THEN WE CLARIFIED IT A BIT TODAY, IS THAT WHEN WE SAY NEW CAR DEALER, WE DON'T ONLY SELL NEW CARS.
WE ALSO SAW CERTIFIED USED CARS, UNCERTIFIED YOU'D CALL USED CARS AND, UM, PREVIOUS LONER, UM, SERVICE LOANER VEHICLES, WHICH MEANS WE REALLY DO HAVE, UM, A VERY BROAD RANGE OF ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, UM, WE'RE ALSO VERY WELCOMING OF COMPETITION.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A NEW CAR FRANCHISE IN EITHER OF THOSE LOCATIONS.
UM, WE FEEL IT'S THE BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTY.
AND, UM, WE ALSO FEEL LIKE THEY USE THAT.
IT'S HAD MOST RECENTLY I'M DOING FILMING KIND OF OFF AND ON.
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S THE BEST USE.
WE ALSO FEEL LIKE IT'S DISRUPTIVE.
I UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEEN EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS AND IT IS KIND OF A BIG PRODUCTION IF YOU'VE EVER COME DOWN THE STREET THAT RIGHT THERE ON THE AUTO PLAZA, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY BUSY STREET.
UM, PEOPLE EXCITED BUYING NEW CARS SOMETIMES GO A LITTLE FAST.
IT SEEMED TO BE A SAFETY CONCERN TO ME TO HAVE ADDITIONAL DISTRACTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY THINGS THAT ARE SO FAR OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE AUTO PLAZA'S INTENTION IS.
UM, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE PAST, LIKE WE SAID, THAT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER NEW CAR FRANCHISES THERE.
SO WE BELIEVE A NEW CAR FRANCHISE COULD BE THERE.
AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE OF A SPACE REQUIREMENT HAS COME UP BEFORE.
AND OF COURSE, WHENEVER YOU DO APPLY FOR A NEW CAR FRANCHISE, THEY DO LOOK AT FACILITY IN SPACE AND SIZE, BUT BECAUSE OTHER NEW CAR FRANCHISES HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE PAST.
AND ALSO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OTHER FRANCHISES HAVE, UM, SHOWN INTEREST.
UM, I BELIEVE RAIN, DROVER AND VOLVO WERE INTERESTED IN APPROVED IN THE LOCATION AT THAT POINT, UM, EXCUSE ME, AT THOSE LOCATIONS AT SOME POINT, BUT DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD IN WEST COVINA.
UM, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT COULD LEAD TO A NEW CAR FRANCHISE NOT BEING APPROVED OUTSIDE OF JUST THE SIZE OF THE LAND.
RIGHT? SO, UM, FOR, FOR MY EXPERIENCE WITH MERCEDES-BENZ AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH ENVISION BUYING EIGHT DEALERSHIPS, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? SO THE GENERAL MANAGER HAS TO BE APPROVED.
THE OWNER'S FINANCIAL STABILITY IS REVIEWED THEIR REPUTATION, THE RELATIONSHIPS, AND ALSO THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN ACTIVE DMV LICENSE.
SO IF ANY OF THOSE THINGS AREN'T IN LINE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT COULD BE, WHAT'S HOLDING A NEW CAR DEALER FROM BEING AWARDED A FRANCHISE.
SO WE BELIEVE THE BEST USE FOR THE SPACE IS AS A NEW CAR DEALER.
AND WE UNDERSTAND, UM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THAT THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, UM, UNDER THE NEXT SLIDE WITH FINANCIAL IMPACT.
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POINT IS TAX REVENUE.SO A NEW CAR FRANCHISE DEMANDS AS MUCH AS EIGHT TIMES, THE TAX REVENUE AS A UCAR USED CAR FRANCHISE DOES.
UM, AND IT'S NOT JUST FROM SALES.
WE ALSO, JENNIFER EIGHT GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INCOME FROM SERVICE AND AS WELL AS FROM RECONDITIONING OUR USED CARS TO BE IN THE BEST CONDITION POSSIBLE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
AND WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO FOR US IS THAT ENTERPRISE WILL MERELY HURT SALES FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY IN THE USED CAR SPACE.
UM, USE CARS ALSO, UM, USED CAR LOTS ALSO DON'T MAKE THE SAME INVESTMENT IN THEIR FACILITY AND IN THEIR CARS.
AND MOST, MOSTLY IN ADVERTISING THAN A NEW CAR FRANCHISE DOES.
SO IN THE AUTO PLAZA CURRENTLY, UM, LAST YEAR, 11,587 CARS SOLD WITH AN AVERAGE OF $400 AVERAGE PER CAR DEDICATED TO ADVERTISING.
THAT'S $4.6 MILLION ADVERTISING BUDGET.
SO TO BRING IN A USED CAR FRANCHISE THAT WON'T HAVE THAT SAME REQUIREMENT AND WON'T MAKE THAT SAME COMMITMENT, THEY WILL VERY HEAVILY BENEFIT FROM ALL OF THE EFFORT AND ALL OF THE DOLLARS CONTRIBUTED BY THE NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS.
AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS NOT JUST AN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ADDING ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
ALL IT DOES IS TAKE REVENUE FROM THE NEW CAR DEALERS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE SUPPORTING THE AUTO PLAZA IN WEST COVINA.
SO AS FAR AS THE AUTO PLAZA IMPACT, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A MUTUAL BENEFIT TO SUPPORT THE CURRENT DEALERS AS WELL AS TO HELP MAXIMIZE THE SALES POTENTIAL.
UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE INTEGRITY OF THE AUTO PLAZA MAINTAINED.
WE AGREE THAT VACANCY IS NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE.
WE DON'T, WE WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT LAND STAY VACANT, BUT WE REALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT A USED CAR DEALERSHIP IS THE BEST USE FOR IT.
AND FOR THE FUTURE OF THE AUTO PLAZA.
UM, WE ALSO BELIEVE FILMING IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER.
I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE REVIEWED THAT.
UM, WE FEEL IT'S DISRUPTIVE AND IT'S NOT GIVING THE, THE LAND THE BEST USE POSSIBLE TO SUPPORT THE OVERALL AUTO PLAZA.
UM, AND WE REALLY FEEL LIKE ADDING A USED CAR DEALERSHIP, DEVALUES THE SPACE.
UM, RIGHT NOW MAYBE IT WILL BE A REPUTABLE USED CAR DEALERSHIP, BUT IT REALLY LEAVES A DOOR OPEN FOR JOE'S AUTO SALES OR ANY OF THE PLACES THAT WE KNOW HAVE KIND OF AN EARNIN STIGMA AS A USED CAR DEALERSHIP.
THAT'S NOT USUALLY A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR CUSTOMERS.
UM, WITH THAT SAID THERE ARE OTHER PLENTY OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT, UM, DICTATE WHAT THEY CAN PUT INTO A SPACE IF A GALLERIA OR EVEN A STRIP MALL HAS AN OPENING.
THERE THEY'RE PARTICULAR ABOUT WHAT THEY PUT, BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU PUT THE WRONG THING INTO A PLACE WITH A DIFFERENT INTENDED PURPOSE, THAT IT CAN REALLY MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO ATTRACT THE RIGHT COMPANIES GOING FORWARD.
SO WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT STAY AS A NEW CAR ONLY AUTO PLAZA SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY ATTRACT NEW AND SUCCESSFUL, UM, FRANCHISES IN THE FUTURE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY SUCCESSFUL AUTO MALLS THAT ARE OPERATING NEW CARS ONLY, AND, UM, THREE OF THE LARGEST LOCAL AUTO MILES ONCE A HILLS ONTARIO.
AND SERITOS, THEY'RE ALL NEW CARS ONLY AT THIS POINT AS WELL.
UM, SO JUST IN CONCLUSION, WE'RE REALLY HERE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP TO SUPPORT THE OVERLAY ZONE, TO KEEP IT AN ALL NEW CAR, UM, AUTO PLAZA.
UM, WE HAVE A VERY VESTED INTEREST IN THIS.
THE DEALERSHIPS, THE NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS THAT ARE IN THE AUTO PLAZA CURRENTLY ARE VALUED BETWEEN 20 MILLION AND A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
AND WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN OUR EMPLOYEES AND MAKING THE FACILITIES UP TO CODE AND UP TO SPEED AND BRAND NEW AND SHINY.
AND WE, WE, UM, HAVE EXTREMELY VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP IT AN ALL NEW CAR FACILITY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SUCCESS ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND WE FEEL LIKE IT DOES HELP MAXIMIZE SALES POTENTIAL, UM, AND, UM, TAX REVENUE POTENTIAL.
WE BELIEVE THAT IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE SAFETY AND THE AESTHETICS OF THE AUTO MALL.
OUR CAR DEALERS ARE OPEN VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING FOR SERVICE, AND THEY CLOSE VERY LATE AT NIGHT FOR SALES, WHICH IS VERY GOOD FOR THE AESTHETICS OF THE AREA, AS WELL AS FOR THE SAFETY, JUST TO HAVE THE LOTS LIT AT ALL TIMES.
AND WE REALLY DO FEEL LIKE IT PRESERVES THE FUTURE OF THE AUTO PLAZA AS KEEPING IT, UM, SUCCESSFUL.
AND TO REALLY, I LIKE WEST COVINA AS A PREMIER CAR BUYING CITY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? DOES THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I'LL START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
NO, THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYONE WHO IS FOR THE OVERLAY, THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE YOU WERE AVAILABLE
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FOR QUESTIONS.SIMON, DID YOU WANT TO, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? PERFECT.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION.
MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
UM, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS OF, OF THOSE, UM, THOSE PEOPLE WHO SUBMITTED CARDS? MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU WANT TO READ THEIR NAMES? THEY'RE THERE FOR RIGHT, BUT THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THE OTHER, OTHER ONES WE HAVE ARE AGAINST.
AND THEN FOR THE RECORD, UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ JOINING US.
UM, HE WAS ABLE TO JOIN US FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION, SO THAT'S FANTASTIC.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER GOOD TEARS BEFORE WE PROCEED.
MAY I JUST ASK, WE HAD A, UM, UM, A SECTION FOR DISCLOSURE OF X PARTY COMMUNICATIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY TO REPORT OR COMMUNICATIONS? OH, JUST, UH, ANY OUTSIDE COMMUNICATIONS WITH ANY OF THE PARTIES, UH, INVOLVED IN THIS APPLICATION OR ANY OF THE SPEAKERS? UH, YES.
I, UH, HAD CONVERSATIONS, UH, TO GO OVER.
UH, I, WE WERE EMAILED THIS POWERPOINT.
I WAS CALLED BY, UM, REPRESENTATIVES OF IVISION MOTORS.
AND THAT, SO I WANTED TO ADD, I WAS CALLED I, UH, MR. TUCK, BUT WE JUST TOLD HIM AT THIS TIME, UH, I COULD NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING.
I BELIEVE EVERY COMMISSIONER AND, BUT WE DID NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA.
APOLOGIZE FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
PLEASE CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING THOSE OPPOSED YOU WILL CALL OUT CHRISTOPHER PETERSON.
I'M AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTING AZUSA GARVEY PROPERTIES WHO OWNS THE PROPERTIES AT ISSUE HERE.
WHAT WE REALLY HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT WAS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
SHE SAID, QUOTE, THIS REALLY HURTS SALES.
IN THE FIRST INSTANCE, THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO PROPOSE OR TO APPROVE THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE IS REALLY UNPRECEDENTED.
THE ASSOCIATION HAS NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE.
ASSOCIATION HAS NOT USED ITS INFLUENCE OR POWER AS A SWORD TO STIFLE COMPETITION OF OTHER MEMBERS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BENEFIT THAT CAN BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND THE CITY.
THE COMMISSIONERS WILL HEAR ABOUT THE BENEFIT THAT ENTERPRISE WILL PROVIDE.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT STIFLING COMPETITION AND PREVENTING ENTERPRISE FROM COMING IN DOES AND BENEFITS FOR ENVISION MOTORS.
THE APPLICANT, UM, THIS FACT ALONE SHOULD GIVE THE COMMISSION PAUSE AS TO WHETHER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING CHANGE.
IT IS A SELF-INTERESTED ACT, A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION, AND THEY ARE SEEKING TO PROMOTE THEIR OWN INTERESTS ONLY AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION.
AND I SENT A LETTER TO MS. BURNS THAT I HOPE ALL OF YOU RECEIVED ON SEPTEMBER 2ND.
UM, UH, IN THE POINT OF THAT LETTER WAS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS AN INTERNAL GOVERNANCE DISPUTE BETWEEN THE ASSOCIATION.
NOW WE HEARD EARLIER, UM, FROM STAFF'S PRESENTATION, I'VE AL ABOUT, EXCUSE ME, A JULY 6TH MEETING OF THE ASSOCIATION ABOUT THAT WAS TAKEN ON A LETTER THEN WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.
THAT WAS NOT A PROPER MEETING.
IT WAS NOT NOTICED PURSUANT TO THE BYLAWS OF THE ASSOCIATION, WHICH REQUIRE VERY SPECIFIC, UH, NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE ITEM OF THE PROPOSED OVERLAY ZONE WAS NOT AGENDIZED.
IT WAS NOT PROPERLY AGENDIZED.
THERE WAS NO PROPER AGENDA FOR THAT MEETING THAT WAS HELD JULY 6TH.
AND SO THERE WAS NO ABILITY OF ENVISION MOTORS TO PRESENT AN APPLICATION OR REQUEST OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE CALLED.
IT WAS NOT PROPERLY DONE THROUGH THE ASSOCIATION'S OWN GUIDELINES AND BYLAWS.
AND SO THERE'S A REMEDY FOR THAT.
AND THE AZUSA GARVEY PROPERTIES HAS EXERCISED THAT REMEDY BY REQUESTING UNDER THE BYLAWS THAT THE ASSOCIATION CALL AND HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING SO THAT THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE CAN BE PROPERLY NOTICED AGENDIZED
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AND DISCUSSED BY ALL MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION.MY CLIENT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY NOTICE OF THE JULY 6TH MEETING AND WAS NOT PRESENT, WAS NOT ABLE TO PRESENT ITS POSITION TO THE ASSOCIATION REGARDING THE OVERLAY ZONE.
AND SO THE REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL MEETING WAS SUBMITTED TO THE ASSOCIATION, UH, OFFICERS ON AUGUST 30TH, THIS EVENING, THE ASSOCIATION PROVIDED NOTICE TO THE ASSOCIATION MEMBERS THAT IT IS SET A SPECIAL MEETING TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS AND DISCUSS THE PROPOSED OVERLAY ZONE ON OCTOBER 27TH.
UM, AND WHAT YOU HEARD DURING THE LAST MEETING, UM, BY THE APPLICANT WAS THAT THE ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDS OR PROPOSES OR, OR APPROVES OF THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
AND THE SIMPLE FACT IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PROPER NOTICE FOR THE MEETING AND THE TOPIC OF THE PROPOSED OVERLAY ZONE WAS NOT PROPERLY, AGENDIZED, IT CAN'T BE THE FORMAL POSITION OF ASSOCIATION THAT FORMAL POSITION CAN BE DISCUSSED ON OCTOBER 27TH, AFTER A FORMAL MEETING OF THE ASSOCIATION, AND THEN PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION AT THIS STAGE, IT WOULD REALLY BE PREMATURE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ADOPT OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED OVERLAY ZONE.
GIVEN THAT THE OCTOBER 27TH SPECIAL MEETING OF THE ASSOCIATION IS SET TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THAT ISSUE THAT WILL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE ASSOCIATION MEMBERS AND ALL MEMBERS THIS TIME TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND THEN RETURN AND ALLOW, UH, OR ADDRESS THE COMMISSION WITH RESPECT TO THOSE ISSUES, UH, THAT THEY MAYBE APPROVE OR CONTINUE TO APPROVE OF OR RECOMMEND, OR MAYBE THEY DISAPPROVE OF AT THAT POINT.
UM, IT JUST ALLOWS THE AUTO ASSOCIATION MEMBERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR POSITION AND ALLOW THE ASSOCIATION TO PRESENT A FORMAL POSITION BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
GIVEN THAT THE CITY HAS CURRENT PROTECTIONS IN PLACE WITH RESPECT TO FILMING, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, APPROVAL OF THE CUP FOR USED AUTO SALES.
THERE REALLY IS NO RUSH HERE AND THERE SHOULD BE NO RUSH TO PUSH THIS THROUGH AND APPROVE, UH, AND PRESENT THIS TO THE COUNCIL.
WHAT WE WOULD ASK IS THAT THE COMMISSION BRIEFLY PAUSE, ALLOW THE SPECIAL MEETING TO THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE AUTO ASSOCIATION TO OCCUR ON OCTOBER 27TH.
AND TAKE UP THIS ISSUE AGAIN, FOLLOWING THAT MEETING AFTER THE ASSOCIATION HAS A FORMAL AND PROPER MEETING AND CAN FORMALLY PRESENT ITS POSITION REGARDING THE OVERLAY ZONE AT THAT TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION, UM, HAVE YOU KICKED HER FROM, SO WE HAVE, UM, ENVISIONED JEEP DODGE, RAM CHRYSLER ENVISION MERCEDES-BENZ SERVICE DEPARTMENT ENVISION MERCEDES ENVISION, ADI ENVISIONED TO YODA, NORM REESE HONDA PERFORMANCE FORWARD, AND THEN THE TWO VACANT LOTS, CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
I'VE BEEN CORRECTED BY, I BELIEVE MR. TUCK, WHO? OKAY, GREAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME JEFF TECH.
UM, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF THE, AS A ZEUS GARVEY LLC AND BENTLEY REAL ESTATE.
THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT, UH, 1919 32 AND 2000 EAST GARVEY AVENUE SELL THESE PROPERTIES ARE KNOWN AS THE FORD DEALERSHIP, THE X CLIPPERS OR CHEVROLET DEALERSHIP AND THE X DRIVE TIME DEALERSHIP.
AS I SET BEFORE YOU ON, UH, ON AUGUST 24TH, THE ACTIONS BEING PLACED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ARE COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.
THE CITY ALREADY HAS AMPLE OVERSIGHT AND PROTECTION UNDER THE EXISTING CODE ON THESE ISSUES, A DEALER SELLING PRE-OWNED VEHICLES IN THE AUTO PLAZA MUST'VE CHANGED A CUP IN ORDER TO DO SO.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY TO REJECT AN UNDESIRABLE OPERATOR WHILE STILL HAVING THE RIGHT TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL NATIONAL BUSINESS, SUCH AS OUR PERSPECTIVE, TENANT ENTERPRISE, CAR SALES AND RENTAL, A TENANT THAT ANY CITY WOULD BE FORTUNATE TO HAVE BRINGING IN MUCH NEEDED SALES TAX REVENUE.
WHY WOULD THE CITY NEED TO CHANGE THE CODE WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE THIS CONTROL? IN REGARDS TO THE FILMING OF COMMERCIALS ONSITE, THE CITY CODE CONTROLS THE APPROVAL PROCESS COMPLETELY.
THE NUMBER OF DAYS WHEN FILMING IS ALLOWED, THE NUMBER OF
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TIMES FILMING MAY OCCUR EACH YEAR.AND THE NUMBER OF DAYS BETWEEN SUCH FILMING IS REGULATED.
THE CODE GOVERNING FILMING WAS MADE EVEN MORE STRINGENT.
LAST YEAR, THERE ARE SUFFICIENT OVERSIGHT TO PREVENT ABUSE.
WHY WOULD ANY, AND ALL WITHIN THE CITY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ALLOW FILMING EXCEPT FOR THE AUTO PLAZA.
UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK FOUR COMMERCIALS ARE FILMED A YEAR AT, AT THE FACILITY AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM IN ORDER FOR THE AUTO CENTER ASSOCIATION TO ATTEMPT TO RESOLVE THIS INTERNAL DISAGREEMENT.
WE HAVE DONE EXACTLY WHAT THE COMMISSION REQUESTED ON AUGUST 30TH.
WE SENT A LETTER TO THE ASSOCIATION AND PAULINA MIRALIS AS ITS SECRETARY REQUESTING A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE MEMBERS UNDER THE BYLAWS TO DISCUSS THIS MEETING MUST TAKE PLACE NOT LESS THAN 35 DAYS AND NO MORE THAN 90 DAYS AFTER THE RECEIPT OF THAT REQUEST THIS AFTERNOON, WE GOT A MESSAGE THAT THE MEETING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED NOW FOR OCTOBER 27TH.
UM, SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER WE MADE THIS, UH, REQUEST OF THE SPECIAL MEETING, WE WERE GIVEN NOTICE OF THIS SPECIAL HEARING TONIGHT.
UH, I THOUGHT THAT YOU ALL WANTED US TO WORK THIS OUT AMONGST ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION.
WHY IS THERE SUCH A HURRY? IS THERE A TIMETABLE THAT SOMEONE HAS COMMITTED TO FOR THIS ACTION? PLEASE LET US HAVE THE TIME FOR THIS MEETING TO BE HELD.
CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL AFTER THE ASSOCIATION MEETING TAKES PLACE.
THE PERTINENT QUESTION RAISED BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE LAST MEETING WAS CAN WE DO THIS? WHEN THE ITEM WAS PRESENTED, THE CITY ATTORNEY GAVE AN EXPLANATION OF THE PATH OF THIS ACTION.
I BELIEVE THE MORE GERMANE POINT IS, IS THIS ACTION LEGAL? HOW CAN YOU DENY SOMEONE THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY, A USE THAT WAS LEGAL WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS OBTAINED? THIS IS A QUESTION THAT I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER WAS ASKING.
AS I HAD SAID, THIS IS AN INTERNAL DISPUTE AMONGST THE ASSOCIATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THE ASSOCIATION WAS SET UP, I DON'T THINK ANYONE ANTICIPATED THAT ONE PERSON WOULD CONTROL MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.
AND THEN AS PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION ABUSED HIS POSITION BY PUTTING FORWARD ACTIONS THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY BENEFIT HIM AND HIS BUSINESS.
THIS POWER GRAB HAS NOT HAPPENED SINCE THE ASSOCIATIONS INCEPTION IN 1993.
I ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS ISSUE FOR YOU TO ASK MR. SARAH JEAN, IF HIS INTENT IS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTIES AT NINETEEN HUNDRED AND NINETEEN THIRTY TWO, JUST MR. SERRA D NEED TO RELOCATE ONE OF HIS FRANCHISES TO 1932 OR ELSE HE WILL LOSE THAT FRANCHISE.
DID MR. SARAH DEAN TRY TO LEASE THE PROPERTY AT 1900 EAST GARVEY WITH THE SPECIFIC INTENT OF MOVING A USED CAR OPERATION ONTO THE SITE, SOMETHING HE IS NOW TRYING TO RESTRICT THE CURRENT OWNER FROM DOING, BUT THE SALE OF USED CARS ON THE SITE IS OKAY FOR HIM.
HOW WAS MR. SARAH DEAN INTRODUCED BY STAFF AT THE LAST MEETING AS THE APPLICANT? HOW COULD AN INDIVIDUAL A CODE CHANGE MY EXPERIENCE OF 45 YEARS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS ONLY THE CITY CAN PUT FORWARD SUCH A CODE CHANGE? UH, I ALSO WANTED TO CLEAR UP A FEW THINGS THAT WERE SAID LAST AT THE LAST MEETING, MR. SATURDAY, AND SAID THAT DRIVE TIME WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.
THEY DID NOT GO OUT OF BUSINESS.
THEY OCCUPIED THE 1900 EACH SCARF ADDRESS FOR FIVE YEARS UNTIL THE END OF THEIR LEASE.
THEY CHOSE TO CONSOLIDATE SEVERAL EXISTING LOCATIONS.
SPEAKERS EXCEEDED AT THE TIME THAT WOULD SPEAK FOR HOWEVER LONG THEY WANTED TO SPEAK.
AFTER YOUR NUMBER WAS ON, THERE WAS NO TIME OR FOR THEM WHEN HE SPOKE IN FAVOR, I'M SORRY.
IT'S 15 MINUTES IS WHAT IS ALLOWED TO EACH PERSON.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, YOU CAN ALLOW THE SPEAKER TO FINISH HIS COMMENTS IF YOU LIKE.
SO, UH, PROPONENTS OF THIS, UH, ACTION LIMITED AT THE LAST MEETING AT OUR PRICES, BEING ABLE TO SELL THE SAME CAR FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS THAN THEY CAN.
ISN'T THIS COMPETITION, UH, ISN'T THIS, THE AMERICAN WAY PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULDN'T SHOULD KEEP, SHOULDN'T KEEP OUT OF A POTENTIAL TENANT, UH, BECAUSE IT MIGHT OFFER COMPETITION.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY, NOT THE INTEREST OF ONE PERSON TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY, NOT TO ELIMINATE COMPETITION, NOT TO PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS.
LET THE ASSOCIATION HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET
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IN 10 TENURE, THIS ACTION UNTIL AFTER THAT MEETING TAKES PLACE.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, I HAVE A QUESTION I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM, UM, CAUSE I I'VE NARROWED DOWN THE OWNERS HERE.
WE HAVE SIR, SIMON SEREN, DINE, AND HIS PARTNER, AND THEN WE HAVE PERFORMANCE FORWARD AND, UH, NORMA REES HONDA.
AND THEN JUST TO CONFIRM, UH, SUSA GARVEY PROPERTIES IS OWNED BY MR. AL HENSON, CORRECT? DON'T WANT HANSON FAMILY.
SO THEY HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT INTO THAT COMPANY, WHICH MR. AL HASSON ARE YOU REFERRING TO, UH, MR. AL HENSON? I BELIEVE THERE'S A SHARP PEAK AND MOHAMMED.
AND MOHAMMAD AL HAS SAID OUR, UH, PARTNERS IN THE LLC.
JUST WANT TO CLEAR ONE THING UP, UH, ON THE PRIOR THING, UH,
THERE IS ANOTHER ENTITY THAT IS THE OWNER OF THE PRO OF THE LLC.
I'M A FINANCIAL CONSULTANT FOR THE OWNERSHIP I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.
AND THE POINT OF MY PRESENTATION IS JUST TO DISCUSS WHAT WAS SAID AT THE LAST AUGUST 24TH MEETING.
AND TO BASICALLY REFUTE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED.
THE FIRST ONE WAS THAT THE, IT WAS A LONG DISCUSSION OVER THE FACT THAT USED CAR SALES HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE IMAGE OF THE AUTOMOBILE ZONE.
AND THAT USED CARS, SALES, OPERATIONS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO REFURBISHING AND RECONDITIONING REQUIREMENTS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT THE MATERIALS, YOU'LL SEE THAT ENTERPRISE HAS 109 POINT RECONDITIONING REQUIREMENT FOR ALL OF THEIR VEHICLES.
AND ALL OF THE VEHICLES ARE RECONDITIONED THAT'S COMPARED TO THE HONDA DEALERSHIP, WHICH I WENT TO THEIR WEBSITE.
THEY HAD 161 CARS USED CARS FOR OFFERED FOR SALE.
ONLY 60 OF THEM WERE PRE-CERTIFIED.
AND, UH, WEST COVINA TOYOTA HAD 181 USED CARS OFFERED ON THEIR WEBSITE.
SO THE DISCUSSION THAT USE CARD, ESPECIALLY SOMEWHAT OF THE, UH, STATURE OF ENTERPRISE, THE FACT THAT THEY DO NOT RECONDITION THEIR VEHICLES WAS, WAS A MISSTATEMENT.
ALL OF THEIR VEHICLES ARE, ARE RECERTIFIED.
THE SECOND THING HAD TO DO WITH, UM, THE SALES TAX ISSUE.
UH, ENTERPRISE IS FORECASTING ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 35 MILLION IN ANNUAL REVENUE, WHICH WOULD GENERATE A THREE AND A HALF MILLION IN SALES TAX, ROUGHLY OF WHICH THE CITY WOULD BE GETTING 1% OR SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 350,000.
IF YOU WERE TO PUT A NEW CAR DEALERSHIP IN THERE, THEY MAY SELL A 300 TO 350 CARS A YEAR.
THEY COULD GENERATE A MILLION AND A HALF TO 2 MILLION, MAYBE EVEN 3 MILLION.
THE POINT BEING THAT WHETHER IT'S A NEW VEHICLE DEALERSHIP THERE OR A USED CAR DEALERSHIP, THE AMOUNT OF SALES TAX PROBABLY GENERATED FOR THE CITY IS GOING TO BE THE SAME.
AND THAT'S PARTLY DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE LOCATION AND THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT YOU CAN HAVE ON THE LOT AND THE TYPE OF VOLUME YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.
SO AGAIN, THE STATEMENT THAT NEW VEHICLE DEALERSHIPS GENERATE EIGHT TIMES THE SALES TAX REVENUE OF USED CARS, BUSINESSES, I BELIEVE IS A MISSTATEMENT ALSO.
UM, TWO OTHER THINGS JUST TO TOUCH ON BRIEFLY.
UM, AS FAR AS THE FILM PRODUCTION GOES, THE 1932 PROPERTY HAS EXTENSIVE PARKING BOTH IN THE FRONT AND ESPECIALLY IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
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UNDERGROUND, UH, PARKING AREA AND THE ONLY TRAFFIC INTERFERENCE WHEN THERE'S FILM PRODUCTION IS WHEN A AUTO TRUCK CARRIER COMES TO BRING CARS THAT WILL BE USED AT THE COMMERCIAL SHOOT AND THEN TAKES THOSE CARS AWAY.THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN THE INTERRUPTION OF A NEW OF THE DEALERSHIPS THERE WHEN THEY GET DELIVERY OF NEW CARS.
OTHER THAN THAT, ALL OF THE PRODUCTION TRUCKS, ALL OF THE PARKING, EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE COMMERCIAL SHOOT IS SELF-CONTAINED WITHIN 1932, AND IT HAS NO IMPACT ON EAST GARVEY AVENUE.
SO, UH, IN SUMMARY, UH, THE LAST THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE LIGHTING OF THE VACANT DEALERSHIP AS A SAFETY HAZARD.
UH, THE OWNERSHIP HAS AGREED TO COMPLY WITH ANY LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS THAT THE ASSOCIATION DEEMS TO BE THERE.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH I PROVIDED IN MY ATTACHMENT SUMMARIES OF THE VARIOUS WEBSITES THAT I TOOK SCREENSHOTS OF AND ALSO THE SUMMARY OF THE ENTERPRISE, UH, RECONDITIONING AND ALL OF THEIR POINTS.
THEN IT WOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, GO AHEAD AND SAVE THE QUESTIONS FOR THE REST OF THAT.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS TONIGHT.
UM, I, I DID TO REACH OUT TO, UH, THROUGH LYDIA DESARRO.
I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU SAY HER NAME TO SPEAK WITH EACH OF YOU, IF I COULD.
UM, AND SHE JUST GOT BACK TO ME THIS WEEK, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO MEET WITH YOU GUYS AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT AN ENTERPRISE CAN BRING, UM, INDIVIDUALLY OF COURSE.
UM, AND I DO APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, UH, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DATES.
I DO THINK THE DATES ARE PRETTY CONCERNING OF HOW ALL THESE ACTIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
AND THE LAST TIME WE MET, UM, WE DID, UH, YOU GUYS, I THOUGHT MADE A GREAT DECISION ABOUT SETTING THIS ASIDE AND LETTING THE CUP APPLICATION TAKE ITS COURSE AND ALSO LETTING THE ASSOCIATION TO MEET AGAIN.
AND I THINK THE ATTORNEY LAID IT OUT VERY WELL, THAT, UM, WE REALLY SHOULD PAUSE AND LET THAT HAPPEN.
UM, I FEEL LIKE ENTERPRISE WE'VE GOTTEN IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF.
WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS, UH, THIS, UH, DISCONTENT AMONGST, AMONGST THE AUTO ASSOCIATION, BUT WE ARE, UH, OBVIOUSLY A VERY WELL-KNOWN BUSINESS AND WE BRING A VERY GOOD BRAND THAT WE WOULD REPRESENT IN WEST COVINA AND WE WANT TO DO SO.
UM, I DO THINK IT'S INTERESTING AND A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING THAT WE'D BE CHOOSING SIDES AMONGST COMPETITORS, ABOUT WHAT, UH, ABOUT ANOTHER, THE OWNER OF A PROPERTY AND HOW THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED AND MAKING A ZONING CHANGE TO THAT, UM, ITS OWN SERVICE COMMERCIAL, AND THAT GIVES YOU THIS, UH, THE CITY, THE MOST, UH, OPPORTUNITY THEY COULD HAVE IN ORDER TO DECIDE WHAT GOES INTO THAT PROPERTY.
IF YOU DID NOT WANT A USED CAR OPERATOR TO BE ON THAT PROPERTY, YOU CAN DENY THE CUP APPLICATION.
IF YOU CHANGE THE ZONING TO WHAT THIS ZONING WOULD DO, YOU'LL NO LONGER HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO DENY A CUP APPLICATION.
SO YOU REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO HAVE ANY DECISION IN THAT USED CAR OPERATION OR ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT MIGHT WANT TO OPERATE THERE THAT WILL WE CRY WITH, EXCUSE ME, REQUIRE A CUP APPLICATION.
SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, THING TO RECOGNIZE HERE AND, AND REALIZE THAT THIS IS ZONING CHANGES.
THIS IS JUST NOT NEEDED AT ALL.
UM, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE CAR OPERATION THERE, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DENY THE APPLICATION AND THAT'S THAT.
SO, UM, UH, I THINK CHANGING, UH, AN IN, IN RECOGNIZING THAT THAT'S A PERMANENT CHANGE THAT YOU'RE DOING TO A PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING AND, AND, AND NOW CHANGING HOW THE OWNER OF A PROPERTY COULD USE IT IS REALLY A CONCERNING THING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT MECHANISM IS ALREADY THERE TO DENY A USE THAT YOU DID NOT WANT THERE.
SO, UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AGAIN AT, UH, WE TALKED LAST TIME I WAS HERE ABOUT A NEW CAR OPERATOR, UH, GOING INTO THAT SITE.
UM, IT, WHILE IT'S TRUE, THAT HUMMER WAS AT THAT SITE BEFORE THAT'S BEEN YEARS AGO THAT A NEW COLLAR DEALER FIT ON A SITE OF THAT SIZE.
AND, UH, IT IS JUST NOT BIG ENOUGH, UM, TO FIT A NEW CAR DEALER.
THERE'S IT JUST, YOU NEED MORE SPACE THAN THAT.
AND, AND ANY NEW CAR OPERATION IS GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THEY NEED MORE SPACE THAN, THAN 1.8 ACRES THAT WE WOULD OCCUPY ON THAT SPOT.
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THING I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS THE SALES TAX.UH, I W RESPECT TO THE, TO THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PUT OUT THERE, BUT WE DO OPERATE THIS BUSINESS.
SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE OPERATION THAT WE WOULD BRING THERE FROM OUR DAILY RENTAL OPERATIONS IS A POINT OF SALE IS RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT SALES TAX THAT GETS GENERATED FROM A DAILY RENTAL OPERATION GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CITY THAT BECAUSE IT OPERATES RIGHT THERE, THAT IS THE POINT OF SALE, UNLIKE A USED CAR OR A NEW CAR WHERE THE RE THE, THE SALES TAX IS COLLECTED AND REGISTERED WHERE THE PROPERTY OR THE, UH, THE PURCHASERS ADDRESSES.
SO THAT ALONE DAILY RENTAL OPERATION THAT ARE, IT'LL BE ABOUT A 300 CAR OPERATION TO START.
UM, AND THAT WILL GENERATE CLOSE TO A 40 TO 420,000 OF SALES TAX REVENUE A YEAR.
AND YOU'LL BE TAKING AWAY THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY OF COVINA TO GET THEIR SHARE WEST COVINA, TO GET THEIR SHARE OF THAT PROPERTY TAX OR SALES, EXCUSE ME, SALES TAX, IF YOU PASS THIS ZONING CHANGE.
UM, THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS, HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT ADVERTISING.
UH, HE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT OUR 109 POINT INSPECTION.
SO I WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT AGAIN, BUT I, I, OUR ADVERTISING BUDGET, UH, FOR, UH, THE UNITED STATES IS OVER $15 MILLION A MONTH.
ONE WOULD, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALL SEEN OUR ENTERPRISE ADS, UM, THAT ARE ON, UH, ON THE NATIONAL TV.
AND YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LOT OF BENEFIT FOR EVERYBODY WHO SELLS CARS THERE FROM OUR ADVERTISING AS WELL.
WHEN YOU SEE THE ENTERPRISE BRAND, A $26 BILLION COMPANY WITH IMPECCABLE MORALS AND DEDICATED TO WHAT WE SELL ON OUR PROPERTY.
SO I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO PAUSE IS WHAT I WOULD SAY, LET THESE OTHER ACTIONS TAKE PLACE.
AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A TIME TO ADDRESS.
UH, MIKE GREENSPAN, IF YOU WANT YOU TO PUT THE TIMER ON AFTER ALL, I'M THE GUY WHO RAISED THE ISSUE WHEN THE APPLICANT WAS THERE WITH NO TIME AND A PERSON BEHIND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S SIDE, I ASKED HIM, SO THAT OTHER SPEAKER WHO WANTED TO HAVE THE TIME LIMIT REMOVED ON HIM.
I MEAN, I DEFINITELY AGREE IF ONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER AND BOTH SIDES SHOULD HAVE THE SAME, RIGHT.
TO HAVE UNLIMITED TIME TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE.
AND ALSO IF THIS THING HAS NOT BEEN HEARD BY THE PARTIES INVOLVED FULLY UNTIL THAT OCTOBER 27TH MEETING, WE PROBABLY ARE ALL WASTING OUR TIME BEING HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE COPER 27TH MEETING WOULD BE THE IMPETUS FOR THIS ISSUE.
AND WITHOUT THAT, WE HAVE REALLY NOTHING.
WE'RE JUST OUT TO DO A RAILROAD JOB.
WELL, LET'S SEE, LET'S JUST RAILROAD THINGS THROUGH.
I'VE SEEN GOVERNMENTS DO THAT.
GEE WHIZ THAT'S STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.
WHY ARE, WHY DO WE WANT TO RAILROAD THINGS? I DON'T GET IT, BUT YOU'VE GOT A VACANT LOT.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS ARE A COUPLE OF VACANT.
I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE TURNING ON THE LIGHTS AS I LET MR. HERMAN KNOW, IF, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE LIGHTS ON, YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF SYRINGES AND IVY DRUG USE FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE KIND OF A, UH, A SNEAK AROUND HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.
SOMEONE WOULD BREAK INTO ONE OF THE BUILDINGS QUIETLY AND BE CAMPING OUT THERE, SQUATTING.
YEAH, THAT'S THE WORD SQUATTING AND GETTING FREE RENT, WHERE THEY SHOULD BE DOING BUSINESS CAR BUSINESS, NOT MORTUARY BUSINESS, NOT BAKERY BUSINESS, OR SOME OF THE OTHER SPECIAL ZONING THINGS THAT YOU HAD LISTED, BUT ACTUAL CAR BUSINESS.
SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU KEEP LIGHTS ON.
SO IT'S TO KEEP AWAY OR PEOPLE COULD AT LEAST SEE IF SOMEBODY'S BREAKING IN HOPEFULLY, AND, AND SQUATTING ON THAT AREA.
AND IF THAT IS THE ENTERPRISE GUY SAID, IF THAT IS NOT PICKING UP THOSE LOTS FOR YOU FOR A NEW CAR DEALERSHIP, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE COMBINING THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE THERE INTO ONE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, AS LONG AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS, LET'S LOOK AT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE AND NOT JUST SAY, WELL, WE CAN ONLY FIT THIS IN HERE OR FIT THIS IN THERE.
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST RENTAL CAR BUSINESSES.
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THE BEST TAX A GOVERNMENT CAN USE, ESPECIALLY AT AIRPORT.PLACES IS TO PUT A TAX ON RENTAL CARS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE RENTING THEM.
DON'T EVEN A LOT OF THEM DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE TOWN OR THE STATE.
AND YOU'RE TAXING OUT-OF-TOWNERS THAT CAN'T VOTE THE POLITICIANS OUT OF OFFICE.
NOW IT JUST MEANS OTHER CITIES WILL DO THE VERY SAME THING.
WE'VE ALL, I'M SURE YOU'VE RENTED CARS IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS, AND IT'S NOT THE RENTAL CAR.
WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE TAX AND ALL THE THINGS THEY ADD ONTO IT, EVEN THE PEOPLE AT THE RENTAL CAR COLLAR KIND OF ROLL THEIR EYES WHEN LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, BECAUSE SOME OF IT IS ACTUALLY RIDICULOUS AND IT'S EVERYTHING, BUT THE KITCHEN THINK THERE, THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THIS.
IT'S KIND OF THE EQUIVALENT WITHOUT THE PLANES WITH THE PASSENGER LANDING FEE, BUT THERE'S JUST MORE TAXES THEY CAN PUT ON THESE RENTAL CARS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S JUST THE MONEYMAKING GIMMICK, AND LET'S SQUEEZE PEOPLE THAT CAN NOT VOTE US OUT.
SO WE JUST PUT OUT EVERY LITTLE THING IN THERE THAT, WHEREAS YOU BUY A CAR, YOU PAY THE SALES TAX, NOT A WHOLE BOATLOAD OF TAXES ON TOP OF IT.
WHEREAS THE RENTAL CAR, YOU HAVE A BOATLOAD OF TAXES.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE THOSE FIGURES WERE RIGHT OF, OH, THE USED CAR VERSUS THE NEW CAR TAX.
I WOULD TEND TO BELIEVE THAT PERHAPS THE REVENUE WOULD BE MORE FROM THE NEW CARS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
AND IF YOU'RE PAYING A NINE AND A HALF OR 10 OR 10 AND A HALF PERCENT SALES TAX RATE, THEN THE MORE THE VEHICLE, THE MORE THE TAX.
NOW I KNOW THAT PLANNING COMMISSIONS HAVE CORRUPTION OF PLANNING AND LAND USE COMMITTEES.
PLUM IN LA HAS BEEN SO BAD THAT THERE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER.
FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL ENGLANDER IS NOW IN PRISON, FEDERAL PRISON FOR CORRUPTION.
JOSE WEEZER WILL BE HAVING HIS TRIAL NEXT YEAR.
AND I'M GOING TO SUBMIT IT FOR THE RECORD TO SHOW YOU WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITH MISUSE, FROM PLANNING.
WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE MY OBSERVATION OF THIS TOPIC HAS A CONSIDERABLE CHANGE OF HEART AND THAT MEANING THAT, UH, I IN SUPPORT OF THIS OPERATION THROUGH ENTERPRISE, BECAUSE WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT IT SEEMS TO BE SOME, A WISHY WASH, BULLSHIT TALK GOING ON HERE TONIGHT.
PEOPLE ON ONE END DON'T UNDERSTAND, ARE THERE NOTES.
SOME PEOPLE COME HERE UNPREPARED AND IT'S APPARENT OTHERS COME IN A LITTLE LATE, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, SALES TAX AND LIGHTING.
WELL, ONE THING IS, UM, THE CONDITIONS, THE CONDITIONS SEEMED TO BE VERY ON TOLERABLE.
REALLY? THE CITY OF DOWNEY NISSAN OPENED UP ON FIRESTONE THE CITY AND DELANY LOANED THEM $1 MILLION TO OPEN AND OPERATE SALES OF CARS.
NOW, MY ONLY COMMENT WAS TO NISSAN DURING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION WAS WHAT KIND OF DISCOUNT AS A RESIDENT DO I GET FOR LIVING IN 9 0 2, 4, 1 ZIP CODE? GENTLEMEN SAYS, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
IT SAYS, YEAH, BUT WHAT DO I BENEFIT? WE'RE LOANING YOU $1 MILLION.
WHAT DO WE GET IN RETURN? THAT'S THE QUESTION COMMISSIONERS.
AND THEN, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, IT WAS PASSED.
I PLAN TO GO BACK TO ASK THE MAYOR THERE.
WHAT PERCENTAGE DID WE GAIN BACK FROM THAT AS TAX PAYERS OF THE CITY OF DOWNEY.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT SALESMEN
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DO AND SAIL CARS DO.AND OPERATORS OF BUSINESSES HAVE TO DO IT'S CALLED CREATE MONEY, MAKE MONEY, SHOW MONEY.
SO MY SUPPORT FOR THIS OPERATION UNDER ZONE CHANGE, NUMBER 21 DASH OH ONE, THERE CAN BE SOME RED FLAGS REMOVED FROM THIS, UH, CONDITIONS.
AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE POWER TONIGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISION BEFORE IT GOES BEFORE MOMMY LOPEZ.
AND I'M REFERRING TO YOUR MOMMY LOPEZ, THE MAYOR WHO SITS THERE, THE NIGHTS THAT I COME IN TO TALK TO HER AND MY ELEGANT SPEECH DOESN'T SURPRISE HER BECAUSE YES, I HAVE TO USE MY VULGARITY TO STEER HER UP, TO MAKE HER THINK, DO WE WANT GROWTH? OR DO WE WANT TO STILL FROM THE PUBLIC OR STILL FROM THOSE TRYING TO OPERATE A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS, JUST SELLING CARS, HAVING SPACE ON A LOT.
AND IF THE CONDITION A SPACE IS THERE GRANTED NOW, IF NOT, WE CAN SUSTAIN AND DENY THE MOTION TONIGHT AND DELAY IT AND PUT POLES POSTPONED ON SALES TAX.
I THINK ALREADY THE CITY OF WEST COVINA IS ALREADY IN A DEFICIT PROBLEM.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THESE CAR DEALERS ARE EXPERIENCING SOME OF THESE NEGATIVE RESPONSES.
IS IT THEIR FAULT THAT THE CITY WANTS TO CREATE RECEIPTS AND RAISE THE TAXES ON THE TAXPAYERS? I DON'T SEE THAT WITH THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.
IF YOU WANT TO BUY THE CAR AT A PARTICULAR PERCENTAGE, YOU BUY THE GODDAMN FUCKING CAR PERIOD.
IF YOU DON'T GOT THE CASH ONLINE, YOU WANT TO PULL A CREDIT AND YOU WANT TO PAY THAT CREDIT FOR 10 YEARS ON A PIECE OF SHIT, BUY THE PIECE OF SHIT.
BUT YOU JUS CHOSE TO SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE THAT GOING BACK TO THE LIGHTING SOME TIME AGO, WHEN I WAS OUT HERE, SOMEONE VANDALIZED MY VEHICLE, SOME FUCKING ASSHOLE THAT IDOLIZE MY VEHICLE HERE IN THE PROPERTY OF WEST COVINA.
AND THAT'S WHY THE REASON THE FBI ARE PURSUING THEIR INVESTIGATION AS TO WHY THAT CRIME WAS COMMITTED HERE DURING A PUBLIC HEARING.
WHEN I SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE COUNCILMAN FOR CORRUPTION, EMBEZZLEMENT, AND DECEIT TO MISUSE PUBLIC FUNDS.
SO YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW YOU PLAN TO VOTE TONIGHT FOR THESE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, THEY DON'T GOT TIME TO WASTE.
THEY WANT, THEY WANT TO RUN A BUSINESS AND THEY WANT TO GET RID OF ALL THE RED FLAG.
AND YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.
OR WHAT ABOUT MR. WOO? WHO SEEMS TO BE PROPPING HER IN THE BACK? SO HERE ARE MY DOCUMENTATIONS FOR THE RECORD.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST WOULD THE LIGHT, UH, APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND FOR A REBUTTAL BEFORE I CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, THIS IS THE LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS.
DOES THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ? NO.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, NO COMMISSIONER HANG VICE CHAIR LEWIS.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL BE CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL OPEN A DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION.
ARE THERE MR. GUTIERREZ SINCE YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS ANY COMMISSION REGARDING WHAT WE'VE HEARD THIS EVENING? OKAY.
I THINK, UH, WAS WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED IN FRONT OF US IS A, IS A, IS AN ACT TO MAKE A DECISION ON A MATTER.
UM, THAT'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY VETTED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND, UH, THE CITY HAS, UH, DONE ALL IT'S REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO IN PUBLIC NOTICES AND IN THE BROWN ACT AND MAKING SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANT AND SO FORTH.
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MY CONVERSATION EARLIER WITH, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS, IS, UH, MULTIPLE OR MULTIPLE AUTOMOTIVE COMPANIES IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, FROM ENVISION JEEP DODGE, RAM CHRYSLER.AND THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE ASSOCIATION, BUT IT'S STILL OWNED BY ENVISION.
MERCEDES HAS BEEN SERVICED APPRENTICE SERVICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE ASSOCIATION, BUT STILL OWNED BY A VISION, UH, ENVISION MERCEDES ENVISION NAUGHTY ENVISIONED TO YODA NOR HONDA PERFORMANCE FORD.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE TWO, UH, VACANT LOTS.
AND I KNOW, UH, BASED UPON EXPERIENCE AND ME DRIVING DOWN, UH, DOWN GARVEY, UH, I HAVE EXPERIENCED SOMETIMES, UH, THOSE, UH, FILMING COMMERCIAL TRUCKS, UH, BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE SORT OF ROAD THERE, UH, WHICH HAS, UH, UH, WHICH, UH, BLOCKS ACCESS AND SO FORTH.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL, I HAVE, I HEARD, I HEAR THE COMMUNITY.
I HEAR, UH, EVERYONE WHO'S HERE TODAY AND EVERYONE WAS WATCHING AT HOME.
UH, AND I THINK, UH, I ASKED THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A DECISION BASED UPON WHAT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT, BUT ALSO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WHO HAVE ESTABLISHED THEMSELVES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, UM, COMMISSIONER HANK, I THINK, UM, THIS EVENING IN FRONT OF US, UM, WE ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCILS.
WE AT THE END OF THE DAYS DO NOT HAVE, THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, IT'S A RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS THAT, UM, THAT WE WISH FOR THAT AREA.
NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT REGARDING THE OVERLAY OR THAT PARTICULAR AREAS, IT HAS BEEN USED FOR ALL IDOLS AND, UM, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES THROUGHOUT THE TIME THAT IT, IT WAS, UM, THERE, THE AUTO ZONE AUTO MALL AREA PLAZA.
SO ANYWAY, UM, I FIND THAT IT'S, UM, IT'S BEEN IN USE AS A CAR IT'S BEEN INDUCED AS SELLING NEW CARS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THE USE HASN'T CHANGE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EFFECT WOULD BE FOR ONE PARTICULAR, UH, CHANGES OF THE ZONE, BUT ALSO IT IS MY CONCERN AS WELL IN TERMS OF HOW AND HOW THIS WILL PROCEED IN THE FUTURES REGARDING LOT THAT MAY NOT RING, UM, INCOMES TO THE CITY AS WELL.
SO THAT IS, IT'S A CONCERN TO ME, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THE GENERAL AREA HAS BEEN INDUCED FOR NEW OR DEALERSHIPS.
AND I DO HAVE SOME CONCERN, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAYS, THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHO ULTIMATELY MAKE THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AND YEAH, JUST WANT TO ADD IT THAT PORTION.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION.
UM, THE WEST COVINA PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 21 DASH 6 0 9 1 AND 21 DASH ZERO.
I'M SORRY, JUST ONE SECOND CHAIR, VICE LIZ.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? ADAM CHAIR? COULD WE, COULD WE LET HIM FINISH THE MOTION AND WE CAN STILL CONTINUE DISCUSSION? I SEE.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THOUGHT RESOLUTION NUMBER 21 6 0 9 1 AND 21 DASH 6 0 9 2, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY CONCERT PROVES ZONE CHANGE NUMBER 21 DASH ZERO ONE AND COLON AMENDMENT NUMBER 21 0 1.
AND, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER LEWIS HAS COMMENTS, EXCUSE ME.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND? AND THEN YOU CAN STILL CONTINUE DISCUSSING IT EVEN WITH THE MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE A SECOND MOTION? I WILL SECOND THE MOTION MR. LEWIS, I MEAN, VICE CHAIR WAS
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SO JUST, JUST THINKING BACK TO THE, UH, THE LAST MEETING, AS WELL AS THIS MEETING.AND IT, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE, THERE SEEMS TO BE A DESIRE TO SORT OF MUDDY THE WATERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS ACTUALLY IS AND WHAT THIS ACTUALLY MEANS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I'LL SAY, UH, THAT I, I W I WANT TO SAY FROM MY STANDPOINT IS TRULY, UH, WITH REGARD TO INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS OWNERS, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT IT'S WITH, IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF GOVERNMENT TO PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS.
HAVING SAID THAT, THOUGH, WITH REGARD TO, WITH REGARD TO LOOKING AT, UM, AT WHAT IS A LEGITIMATE PLANNING USE, I LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THIS CITY.
UM, AND FOR ALL OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, I GREW UP IN THIS CITY, I SPENT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE 35 YEARS THAT I'VE SPENT ON THIS PLANET IN THIS CITY.
AND I'VE SEEN SOME THINGS OCCUR WITH REGARD TO LAND USE.
AND WITH REGARD TO PLANNING COMMISSIONS IN THIS CITY EFFECTIVELY GO BY THE WAYSIDE IN SUCH A WAY WHERE WE ARE A CITY THAT IS JUST FULL OF FRANKLY, JUST HODGEPODGE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS REALLY NO RHYME OR REASON TO IT.
AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING.
IT'S EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO RESTAURANT ROW, WHICH IS NOW FOR REASONS I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND CALLED THE ROW.
AND I, AND I, I LOOK AT, I, I, I LOOK AT, UH, THIS SITUATION IS A SITUATION WHERE I QUITE FRANKLY AM A BIT SURPRISED AND LOOKING BACK THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW UNTIL RECENTLY THAT THERE WEREN'T SPECIFIC BUSINESS RESTRICTIONS ON THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES.
AND THE THING THAT, THE THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IN THE LONG RUN AND GOVERNMENTS COME AND GO AS THEY SHOULD, AND LAND USE DETERMINATIONS COME AND GO AS THEY SHOULD.
UM, BASED UPON THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AT THE TIME, RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF WEST COVINA IS LARGELY DEPENDENT UPON THE AUTO PLAZA FOR A GOOD CHUNK OF IT'S, UH, OR FOR A GOOD CHUNK OF ITS SALES TAX REVENUES.
AND FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY OUR GOVERNMENT THAT IS SORT OF SO DEPENDENT UPON THAT TO A SHOE THAT, AND CREATE MORE OF A HODGEPODGE.
UM, AND, AND I'M, I'M, I'M DISTURBED BY THE NOTION THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE BASED UPON, UH, THE, THE CURRENT ZONING OF SERVICE COMMERCIAL, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING AT RIGHT.
UM, AND, AND SO FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'D MUCH RATHER SEE THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT STAY, OR THIS, THIS AREA STAY AS NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF ONTARIO, WHICH I CAN THINK OF IN WHICH THERE IS A FRONTAGE LOT ALONG THE FREEWAY THAT HAS A USED CAR DEALERSHIP.
UM, AND, AND THERE'S NOWHERE I CAN THINK OF IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY THAT FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT IT, NOT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF EITHER THE APPLICANT OR THE OPPOSITION, FRANKLY.
UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY BUSINESS OWNERS COME AND GO, I'M A RESIDENT HERE.
I DON'T, I, I PUT PEOPLE FIRST AND I, I WANT TO SEE OUR CITY DEVELOP IN A MANNER THAT HAS SOME CONSISTENCY TO IT.
AND I THINK THAT BY, UH, BY, BY MAINTAINING A SYSTEM WHERE WE JUST HAVE NOTHING BUT A HODGEPODGE DEVELOPMENT POLICY, I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.
AND, AND I THINK, I THINK FOR THAT REASON WITH SOME W W WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT, I AM, I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF HAVING A BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY ZONE WITH REGARD TO THESE NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS.
I THINK THAT, AND MAINTAINING NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS IN THIS CITY, I THINK
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THAT THAT IS THE BEST WAY FORWARD FOR THE CITY AT THIS TIME.IF FOR WHATEVER REASON DOWN THE LINE, IT HAS SHOWN THAT NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS ARE JUST NOT, UH, NOT A VIABLE BUSINESS OPTION, WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION THEN, BUT FOR NOW, UM, I, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS, THIS, UH, THIS PROPOSAL SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSES OF MAINTAINING, UM, MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO.
UM, AND IN THAT REGARD, THE ONLY MODIFICATION I WOULD MAKE, UH, IS TO SECTION 26 DASH 7 37, UH, SUBDIVISION C UM, I THINK, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT I WOULD MODIFY AS, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE DEFINITION BEING NEW VEHICLE FRANCHISE DEALERSHIP, UM, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IT SHOULD INCLUDE, UM, AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS MY LANGUAGE.
UM, AND, UM, FORGIVE ME IF I'M GOING A LITTLE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UH, BUT I WOULD SAY, UH, I WOULD SAY A MANUFACTURER OF NEW VEHICLES THAT MARKETS AND SELLS DIRECT TO CONSUMER.
UM, I, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT DEFINITION BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, I I'VE, I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN REAL PROBLEMS WITH HOW FRANKLY PLANNING COMMISSIONS DEAL WITH, WITH FRANCHISE RELATIONSHIPS AND, AND FRANKLY, UM, THEY'RE, THEY TEND TO BE USED BY FRANCHISES FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF, OF SELF PERPETUATING THE, UH, THE, THE, THE NEW CAR DEALERSHIP, FRANCHISEE MODEL.
I I'M, I'M NOT IN THAT BUSINESS.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, THAT WE SHOULD BE MORE, MORE WIDE AND DIRECT IN THAT, UM, OR IS IN THE BUSINESS OF DIRECT, UH, A DIRECT SALE AND MANUFACTURING OF NEW, UH, OF, OF NEW VEHICLES, UM, BECAUSE MODELS CHANGE AND, AND, AND WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT, UH, TODAY.
SO I, I I'D LIKE TO AMEND THAT AND I WOULD MOTION TO, UH, UH, I WOULD MOTION TO ADOPT ZONE CHANGE 21 DASH OH ONE CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 2101.
UM, WITH THAT MODIFICATION TO SECTION 26 DASH, LET ME ONE SECOND.
26 DASH 7 37, UH, SUBDIVISION C COMMISSIONER LEWIS MAY ASK FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON YOUR MODIFICATION.
UM, WE HAVE SUBSECTION A, WHICH IS AUTOMAKER, UH, SHOW ME IN A COMPANY THAT MANUFACTURERS CARS, DOES THAT COVER YOUR INTENDED MODIFICATION OF SEE THAT WE HAVE A, THAT DIRECTLY ALLOWS AUTOMAKERS? I THINK, I THINK THAT, UH, THE, THE LANGUAGE IS SET FORTH IN THE PERMITTED USES, UM, SAY, OKAY.
I THINK THAT WASN'T A, THAT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL DRAFT IN SECTION 26 DASH 7 38 AT THE, AT THE LAST TIME.
AND I THINK I HAD MENTIONED IT AT THE LAST, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING.
AND IT COULD BE THAT STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, TOOK IN YOUR COMMENT ON THAT THOUGH.
I, I, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM JOANNE IS THAT SHE SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO INCLUDE DIRECT SALES FROM AUTO MANUFACTURERS.
I, I THINK THAT'S FAIR, THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND NIX THAT, AND I WILL JUST SUPPORT THE, UH, THE PRIOR MOTION.
DO WE WANT TO ROLL CALL? OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU WANTED TO READ OUT AND OKAY.
I'M GOING TO TRY, I WILL DO A ROLL CALL.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ AND A SECOND CHAIR FOR SARAH TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 21 DASH 6, 0 91.
AND RESOLUTION 21 DASH 6, 0 92.
UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, NO, UM, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ.
COMMISSIONER HAYNE, UH, VICE CHAIR LEWIS, UH, AND CHAIR PROCERA YES.
FOUR ONE BESIDE THEM WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE FINAL DECISION MAKING BODY FOR THE CODE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
AND THERE ARE NO NON-HEARING ITEMS
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ON THIS AGENDA.SO WE WILL GO TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. WOULD ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO REPORT OR COMMENT ON ANY ITEM? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
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WELL, PAULINA, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION I'M CHAIR ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, MEETING FOR THE SEPTEMBER 14TH, UH, OR THE SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE SEPTEMBER 14 WILL BE CANCELED DUE TO THE RECALL ELECTION THAT DAY.UM, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A SAVE THE DATE.
THE CITY WILL BE HOSTING OUR STATE OF THE CITY AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, UM, EVENT ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14TH, AT SIX 30 AT THE WEST COFINA SPORTSPLEX.
UH, SO, UH, INVITATIONS ARE FORTHCOMING, BUT IT'S A SAVE THE DATE.
WELL, IF, SINCE THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CONSIDER THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 8:56 PM.