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          GOODY. 
          HI AND 
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WELCOME TO THE CITY OF WEST CAMINO PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          JUNE 22ND, 2021 7:00 PM. 
          REGULAR MEETING. 
          THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. 
          WE WILL TAKE A MOMENT FOR SILENT PRAYER OR MEDITATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE. 
          THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. LENA, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, PRESENT COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ HERE, MISSIONARY HANG ICE CHAIR LEWIS, YOUR CHAIR. 
          BE SARAH 
          [1. Regular meeting, June 8, 2021]
AT THIS TIME. 
          HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF JUNE 8TH, 2021. 
          HM. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          THE MINUTES OF JUNE 8TH, 2021 ARE APPROVED AND SUBMITTED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND TWO ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. 
          THIS IS THE TIME WHEN ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER WITHIN THE SCOPE OF DUTIES, ASSIGNED TO THE COMMISSION, RELATING TO NON AGENDAS OR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. OTHER MATTERS INCLUDED IN THIS AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED WHEN THAT ITEM IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ALL ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, THE CHAIRPERSON MAY IMPOSE REASONABLE LIMITATIONS ON PUBLIC COMMENTS TO ENSURE AN ORDERLY AND TIMELY MEETING. 
          THE RALPH M. BROWN ACT LIMITS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS MEETING. 
          THAT'S YOUR COMMENTS MAY BE AGENDIZED FOR A TIME FOR A FUTURE MEETING OR REFERRED TO STAFF. 
          THE COMMISSION MAY ASK QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION F DESIRED AT THIS TIME BY POLICY THE COMMISSION ORAL ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES PERSONS WHO ARE NOT, OR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME MAY DO SO UNDER CONTINUATION ORAL COMMUNICATIONS LATER ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING MELINA WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT. 
          HE'S ME CHAIR. 
          UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, COULD WE MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THIS CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT'S SURE. 
          OH, ARE THEY AT, EXCUSE ME, ARE THEY HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING OR FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. 
          SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          SO, SO MADAM CHAIR, OUR 
          [2. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 20-04]
PLANNING CONSULTANT, JEFF HAMILTON WILL PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION. 
          TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A PROPOSAL FOR A RESIDENTIAL HOUSING PROJECT AT 1,616 16 WEST CAMERON AVENUE. 
          THIS PROJECT INVOLVES A PRECISE PLAN, A TENTATIVE TRACK MAP, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT WAS ALSO AN ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT PREPARED FOR THE PROJECT. 
          AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT IS HERE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAIL ABOUT THAT. 
          LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, THE PROJECT SITE IS A THREE AND A QUARTER ACRE SITE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS, PARKING AND LANDSCAPING. 
          THE SITE IS RECTANGULAR. 
          IT'LL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH 84 UNITS 
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OF TOWNHOUSE. 
          RESIDENTIAL. 
          EACH UNIT WILL HAVE TWO CAR GARAGE. 
          EACH OF THE BUILDINGS ARE THREE STORIES TALL. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE REQUIRED TWO CAR PARKING FOR EACH UNIT, THERE'LL BE 15 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES LOCATED IN VARIOUS PORTIONS OF THE SITE. 
          THE BUILDINGS ALONG CAMERON HAVE A NEW, THE TWO 12 UNIT BUILDINGS ALONG CAMERON AVENUE INCORPORATE A STOOP FRONT ENTRY, A RAISED SORT OF STOOP AS REQUIRED BY THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          EACH UNIT ON THE PROJECT HAS AT LEAST 101 SQUARE FEET OF PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. 
          AND THERE ARE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES ON THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE AERIAL OR, I MEAN ON THE, ON THE SCREEN, THERE ARE SOME PROJECT DETAILS OF THAT INCLUDE SHOWING THAT THE SETBACK FROM THE STREET ALONG CAMERON IS AT LEAST FIVE FEET. 
          THERE'LL BE A SEVEN FOOT, UH, 7.2 FOOT SETBACK ALONG THE SORT OF THE NORTHWEST SIDE, A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT SETBACK ALONG THE SOUTH EAST SIDE. 
          AND THERE'LL BE A ROUGHLY 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE CLOSEST BUILDING, ADJACENT TO THE, UM, UH, UH, BUDDING, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG SAWYER AVENUE BEHIND THE PROPERTY. 
          THE PROJECT HAS, UH, A 26 FOOT DRIVE AISLE FOR AROUND MOST OF THE SITE PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE UNITS, THE DRIVE AISLE, ALONG SAWYER, ALONG THE SAWYER SIDE, SORT OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE, THAT'LL BE, UH, 34 FEET WIDE. 
          AND THAT THERE'S A QUOTE UNQUOTE ALLEY IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE PROVIDING ACCESS TO SOME OF THE UNITS NEAR THE CENTER OF THAT ALLEY IS 20 FEET WIDE. 
          THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE THAT SHOWS THE PROJECT BOUNDARIES, THE TWO EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS, THE EXISTING, UM, UH, PARKING AREAS AND LANDSCAPING. 
          YOU CAN ALSO SEE A PORTION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WEST OF THE SITE, OTHER OFFICE BUILDINGS, NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE SITE. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH IS OUTDATED BECAUSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE, SOUTH EAST SIDE OF THE SITE, THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS, OR AT LEAST SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY A SIMILAR, UH, MULTI-STORY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT THAT JUST DOESN'T ISN'T REFLECTED IN THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SITE IS THE FORMER KMART SITE. 
          NOW APPARENTLY OCCUPIED BY FOREIGN DECOR. 
          AND AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER ACROSS DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE SITE IS A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. 
          THIS SHOWS THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE AS VIEWED FROM CAMERON AVENUE. 
          THE IMAGE ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN SHOWS SOME EXISTING BUSINESSES TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE. 
          AND THEN THE IMAGE ON A BELOW IS A RENDERING OF THE NEW RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, RELATIVELY NEW RESIDENTIAL PROJECT BUILT TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE IMAGE ON TOP NOW SHOWS SOME OF THE HOMES ALONG SAWYER AVENUE BEHIND THE SITE. 
          AND THEN THE IMAGE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN SHOWS THE LAUREN DECOR BUILDING TO THE LEFT AND THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS. 
          SO THE RIGHT DIAGONALLY ACROSS FROM THE PROJECT SITE, THESE ARE ELEVATIONS THAT SHOW THE, UM, UH, VIEW OF THE BUILDING, THE PROPOSED BUILDING, ONE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS ALONG CAMERON. 
          UH, THIS SHOWS THE ARCHITECTURE, THE COLORS TO BE USED. 
          THERE ARE TWO COLOR SCHEMES GOING TO BE USED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT SITE. 
          ONE IS SORT OF A WARMER GREEN AND BROWNISH SHADE ON THE TOP. 
          AND THE OTHER ONE IS MORE USES MORE GRAY TONES. 
          THE COLORS, THE IMAGE ON THE TOP SHOWS THE CAMERON ELEVATION THAT SHOWS THE ELEVATED STOOPS. 
          UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT THERE ARE, UH, STEPS UP TO THE FRONT DOOR. 
          THE OTHER BUILDINGS BEHIND THE CAMERON FRONTAGE ARE AT GRADE. 
          SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO STEP UPS TO THE FRONT DOOR. 
          THE LANDSCAPE PLAN CALLS FOR ALL THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING TO BE REMOVED, UH, ON THE SITE TO BE REPLACED BY OVER A HUNDRED TREES, ALL BETWEEN 24 AND 36 INCH BOX SIZE, INCLUDING FOR CALIFORNIA SYCAMORES AT THE NORTH WEST AND SORT OF SOUTHWEST CORNERS OF THE SITE, TWO OLIVE TREES, ONE NEAR THE SOUTH, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, AND THE OTHERS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER, THREE MAGNOLIA TREES, TWO OF THEM NEAR THE ENTRANCE OFF OF CAMERON AVENUE AND 
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EIGHT BRISBANE BOX TREES ALONG THE STREET. 
          THERE'S OBVIOUSLY ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THE OTHER PROPERTY LINES, SMALLER LANDSCAPING ALONG THE OTHER PROPERTY LINES. 
          AND ALONG THE WALKWAYS ON SEPARATING THE BUILDINGS INTERIOR TO THE SITE, UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME ADDITIONAL STREET FRONT DETAILS, INCLUDING THE SCREENS THAT WILL BE UTILIZED TO SCREEN THE PROPOSED, UH, AIR CONDITIONING UNITS THAT WILL BE AT GRADE NEAR THE FRONT ENTRANCES OF THE BUILDINGS. 
          SO THESE SCREENS WILL NOT ONLY BE METAL, BUT THEY'LL ALSO HAVE PLANTING THAT WILL HELP GROW UP AND AROUND AND HIDE THE MIDDLE SCREEN. 
          UM, THE, THESE HVAC CONDENSERS, UM, WILL BE NEAR OR ADJACENT TO THE FRONT STOOPS OF THE BUILDING ALONG CAMERON. 
          AND THEN THERE'LL BE NEAR THE FRONT ENTRANCES OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE SITE. 
          THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS SOME OF THE WALL AND FENCE DETAILS. 
          THAT WOULD BE, THERE'LL BE A NEW SIX FOOT SPLIT FACE BLOCK WALL ALONG THE NORTHERLY AND SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINES. 
          THE, AN EXISTING SEVEN FOOT METAL FENCE ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE WILL BE, WILL BE RETAINED AND PAINTED BLACK. 
          IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE IN THIS IMAGE, BUT, UH, I HOPE YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE PLANS. 
          YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE WALLS AND FENCING AND PATIO ENCLOSURE, AIR, UH, WALLS, THE LOWER PATIO ENCLOSURE WALLS, AND THE, AND THE SIGNAGE, UH, ALONG THE LOWER EDGE OF THIS SLIDE. 
          THIS SHOWS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE 12 UNIT BUILDING IN THE 12 UNIT BUILDING. 
          THEY HAVE TWO FLOOR PLANS, PLAN TWO AND PLAN THREE, UM, PLAN TO USE THIS TANDEM PARKING IT'S THREE BEDROOM, THREE BATH AND 1500 SQUARE FEET. 
          PLAN THREE IS 1,796 SQUARE FEET WITH SIDE-BY-SIDE TWO CAR GARAGE, THREE BEDROOM, THREE BATH. 
          IT INCLUDES AN EIGHT, A QUOTE UNQUOTE FLEX ROOM, SORT OF, IT CAN BE EITHER USED AS A DEN OR, OR WORKSPACE AT THE GROUND LEVEL. 
          AND THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN AT THE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL. 
          THIS IS THE MAIN LIVING AREAS WITH THE KITCHEN DINING, UM, GREAT ROOM OR LIVING ROOM, A BATHROOM ON EACH OF THE FOUR PLANS AND ON THE PLAN TWO. 
          AND THE PLAN THREE, THERE IS ONE, I THINK THERE IS ONE BEDROOM. 
          IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE THERE'S ONE BEDROOM ON EACH OF THESE FOUR PLANS AT THIS SECOND FLOOR LEVEL. 
          THE OTHER BEDROOMS ARE AT THE THIRD FLOOR LEVEL AND OTHER BATHROOMS ARE AT THE THIRD FLOOR. 
          AS I MENTIONED, PLAN TWO IS 1500 SQUARE FEET. 
          IT HAS A 497 SQUARE FOOT TANDEM, TWO CAR GARAGE SQUARE F UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT OR A SMALLER ABOUT A 35 SQUARE FOOT, FRONT PORCH AND ENTRY, AND THEN 400 SQUARE FEET, CUBIC FEET OF STORAGE AT THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL AT THE SECOND FLOOR, WE'VE GOT THE LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, A BEDROOM AND BATHROOM, AND A A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR DECK. 
          AND THEN ON THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU HAVE TWO BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS AND I WON PLAN THREE IS SIMILAR 411 SQUARE FOOT, TWO CAR GARAGE WITH A PORCH ENTRY VESTIBULE, A FLEX ROOM AND 150 CUBIC FEET OF STORAGE. 
          THAT THE SECOND STORY YOU HAVE A LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, BEDROOM, BATHROOM, A OFFICE SPACE, AND THEN A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF DECK, AND THEN BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS AND LAUNDRY ROOM ON THE THIRD FLOOR ON THE 10 UNIT BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE FOUND INTERIOR TO THE SITE. 
          THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL FLOOR PLAN. 
          THE PLAN ONE, WHICH IS RECTANGULAR, IT'S 1,210 SQUARE FEET. 
          IT HAS TWO BEDROOMS AND TWO AND A HALF BATHS ON THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL. 
          YOU JUST HAVE PARKING AND, UM, AND THE ENTRY WAY ON THE PLAN. 
          ONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL, YOU HAVE THE MAIN LIVING AREA. 
          YOU HAVE THE KITCHEN AND YOU HAVE A 70 SQUARE FOOT OUTDOOR DECK. 
          AND THEN ON THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU HAVE BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS AND ANOTHER DECK. 
          SO THE PLAN ONE AND PLAN TWO FOR THE 10 UNIT BUILDINGS ARE IDENTICAL AS FOR THE 12 UNIT BUILDING. 
          THE, UH, THE PLAN TWO AND THREE ARE IDENTICAL. 
          THE PLAN ONE IS THE 1,210 SQUARE FOOT UNIT FOUR WITH A 404 SQUARE FOOT, TWO CAR GARAGE AT THE GROUND LEVEL, 12 SQUARE FOOT PORCH AND ENTRY VESTIBULE, AND 400 CUBIC FEET OF STORAGE. 
          THE SECOND FOUR, YOU'VE GOT THE LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, BEDROOM POWDER ROOM, AND A 70 SQUARE FOOT DECK. 
          AND THEN ON THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU HAVE TWO BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS, A LAUNDRY, AND A 70 SQUARE 
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FOOT DECK. 
          ALSO, THIS IS A RENDERING OR A R A R ARCHITECTURAL IMAGE OF WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKE ALONG CAMERON. 
          THIS IS THE CAMERON FRONTAGE AND SHOWS THE ELEVATED FRONT STOOPS. 
          THE SMALLER IMAGE UPPER LEFT ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE MAIN ENTRYWAY OFF OF CAMERON BUILDINGS, FLANKING THE ENTRYWAY, AND THEN THE IMAGE LOWER RIGHT SHOWS TWO OF THE INTERIOR BUILDINGS WITH THE WALKWAY DOWN THE MIDDLE SEPARATING THE TWO THAT PROVIDES ACCESS TO EACH OF THE FRONT, THE FRONT DOORS ON EACH OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE PROJECT SITE, THERE WERE IDENTIFIED FIVE SIGNIFICANT TREES THAT WILL BE REMOVED. 
          UH, TWO BANYAN FIGS AND THREE LITTLE LEAF FIGS. 
          THESE ARE ALL LOCATED BASICALLY IN THE PARKWAY OR ALONG THE VERY FRONT, UH, STREET FRONTAGE OF THE SITE. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT TREE, A CALIFORNIA SYCAMORE THAT IS OFFSITE. 
          IT WILL NOT BE REMOVED AS PART OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND MITIGATION MEASURES ARE PROPOSED TO PROTECT ENSURE THAT THIS TREE IS PROTECTED AND NOT DAMAGED BY THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. 
          PROJECT WILL PAY THE FEE FOR ART AND PUBLIC PLACES. 
          IT'LL PLAY IT'LL PAY DEVELOPMENT, IMPACT FEES AND PARK FEES. 
          STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS PROJECT HELPS ADDRESS THE CITY'S NEEDS UNDER THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE HOUSING ELEMENT, PRODUCING MORE HOUSING, UH, IN A, IN A MORE AFFORDABLE WAY. 
          AND THAT THIS, THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WITH HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING IS, UH, IS A GOOD LOCATION ALONG ON A TRANSIT ROUTE AND IN THE DOWNTOWN. 
          UH, IT ALSO CREATES A REASONABLE TRANSITION FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WEST OF THE SITE, BY HAVING THAT 50 FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT APPLICANT CONDUCTED NEIGHBORHOOD OUT, REACH MEETINGS ON APRIL 3RD AND 10TH VIA ZOOM RESIDENTS WITHIN 300 FEET, RECEIVED A FLYER AND ENABLING THEM TO SET AN APPOINTMENT TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT. 
          DEVELOPER ALSO WALKED THE PROPER, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND KNOCKED ON DOORS AND MET WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA. 
          LEGAL NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. 
          THE SECRET NOTICE WAS SENT OUT AND THE COMMENT PERIOD BEGAN ON MAY 19TH AND ENDED ON JUNE 8TH AND PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING WERE SENT OUT ON MAY 20TH. 
          THE SITE WAS, UH, ALSO POSTED AND THE NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE PROJECT. 
          THEY MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION. 
          THIS WAS CIRCULATED, AS I MENTIONED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE SANITATION DISTRICT AND FROM, UH, TWO INDIVIDUALS, CHRISTINE DONAHUE FROM WRITTEN KHAN IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT WHO WILL BE HERE TONIGHT TO, TO, UH, PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT IN THAT PROCESS. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          UM, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UH, THE CITY AN INITIAL STUDY, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROJECT, UM, MR. COMPREHENSION EVALUATION OF THE PROJECT UNDER SEQUENCE SUPPORTED BY KEY TECHNICAL STUDIES. 
          UH, THIS ILLUSTRATES THE SEQUENCE PROCESS. 
          UM, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD AND, UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. 
          SO RESPONSE TO COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PREPARED FOR THE PROJECT, UM, AND, UH, PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, WE'RE AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE, UM, PINE COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER THAT DOCUMENT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL PROJECTS, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, THE INITIAL STUDY DETERMINED, UH, THAT THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE HAD LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THESE TOPICS, UH, WHERE THE INITIAL STUDY INDICATED THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE IMPACTS. 
          THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT IF MITIGATION WAS INCORPORATED, UM, ON THESE SUBJECTS AS FOLLOWS WITH RESPECT TO BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, UH, WE'VE IDENTIFIED MITIGATION FOR A NESTING BIRD AVOIDANCE AND, UH, THE TREE PROTECTION MEASURES IN PARTICULAR, THIS SPEAKS TO OF THE ONE OFFSITE TREE THAT KIND OF HANGS OVER ONTO THE PROJECT SITE. 
          SO IT PROVIDES, UM, FOR ONSITE PROTECTION OF THAT TREE, A FAIRLY STANDARD CULTURAL RESOURCES, PROTECTION MEASURES 
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RELATED TO WORKERS, ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS PROGRAMS, ONSITE, ARCHEOLOGICAL MONITORING. 
          UM, AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO IF WE, IF WE FIND THINGS THAT, UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW, WERE THERE, UM, ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND HUMAN REMAINS, WE HAVE MEASURES TO ADDRESS WHAT'S THAT GLG AND SOILS. 
          SIMILARLY, THIS ADDRESSES, UH, ANTICIPATE UNANTICIPATED DISCOVERY. 
          UM, IF A PALEONTOLOGICAL RESOURCES ARE IDENTIFIED, UM, HAZARDS AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, UH, THE FIRST MEASURE ADDRESSES, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR LETTING US PESTIS, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES. 
          UM, SO MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE TAKEN CARE OF, UM, AS WELL, SOME SUB-SURFACE, UH, TESTING AND SOIL MANAGEMENT, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT CONSTITUENTS ARE, UH, IDENTIFIED BELOW THE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURES, ALSO STANDARD, UH, NOISE CONSTRUCTION REDUCTION MEASURES, UM, AS WELL AS REQUIREMENTS FOR MEETING, UH, NOISE STANDARDS WITH RESPECT TO, UM, UH, HOW THE, UH, RESIDENCES ARE BUILT AND THE MATERIALS USED AND THE SOUND REDUCTION, UH, ACHIEVED, UH, ALSO A TRANSPORTATION MEASURE RELATED TO SAFETY AND, AND, UM, OOPS, SORRY. 
          AND, UM, CONTROL. 
          SO TRAFFIC CONTROL DURING CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS SOME PARTICULAR MEASURES, UH, DURING, UM, TO BE IN PLACE PRIOR TO PROJECT, UH, OPERATION AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UM, WE HAVE MEASURES RELATED TO TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES IN THE EVENT THAT SOME RESOURCES ARE FOUND DURING CONSTRUCTION, UM, HOW THOSE ARE HANDLED AND ON UTILITIES AND SERVICE SYSTEMS. UM, BASICALLY THIS ADDRESSES, UH, FAIR SHARE REQUIREMENTS FOR REPLACEMENT OF AN EXISTING, UH, SEWER LINE. 
          I HAVE ONE CORRECTION THAT WAS MADE IN THE FINAL ISM AND D UM, IT DELETES SOME LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN A CARRY OVER DOCUMENTS. 
          UM, SO THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          IT OCCURS IN TWO PLACES ON PAGES, ONE 18 AND ON PAGES ONE 19, AND IT JUST DID NOT BELONG IN THE BOOK DOCUMENT. 
          SO YOU MENTIONED, UH, SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL, UM, CONSIDER, UH, THE INITIAL STUDY IN MITIGATING NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE ADOPTED BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE SITE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS PREPARED STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS AND RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PRECISE PLAN, TREE REMOVAL, PERMIT, TENTATIVE TRACK MAP, AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR CERTIFICATION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT. 
          THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT JANA, UM, ROBBINS, A CITY CITY ENGINEER, THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR ANY TRAFFIC RELATED QUESTIONS, UM, PERTAINING TO THE CITY. 
          AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT STAFF DISTRIBUTED COPY HARD COPIES AND EMAILED THE PAWNEE COMMISSION, A LETTER THAT WAS SENT BY MR. THOMAS TO WICK MEMORIALIZING, HIS CON CONVERSATION AND MEETINGS WITH MERITAGE HOMES. 
          AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, FIRST WE WILL BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          YEAH, GOOD EVENING CHAIR. 
          BESERA 
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MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE PROJECT HERE TONIGHT. 
          MY NAME IS MATT MAHARA. 
          I AM THE, UH, PROJECT MANAGER FOR, WITH MERITAGE HOMES. 
          WHAT I PASSED OUT, UH, FOR YOU, THERE IS JUST AN IMAGE OF THE ILLUSTRATIVE SITE PLAN AND, UH, THE RENDERINGS, JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF HAVE IT HANDY. 
          UM, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT, UM, KNOW I JUST WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK STAFF FOR AN EXTREMELY THOROUGH STAFF REPORT. 
          IT'S NOT EASY TO BRING A PROJECT TO THIS POINT AND THE LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THAT STAFF PUT INTO THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THEM FOR, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THAT'S BEEN WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THIS PROJECT. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, UH, I WORKED FOR MERITAGE HOMES. 
          WE ARE THE HOME BUILDER THAT, UM, BUILT THE PROJECT DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR CALLED CAMERON 56. 
          UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST PRODUCT THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, UH, IN, IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN WHEN IT WAS, WHEN IT WAS FIRST ADOPTED. 
          UM, THE PROJECT WAS ENTITLED BACK IN 2018, IT'S 56 HOMES, THREE STORY TOWN, HOME PROJECT. 
          UM, AND, AND IT ACTUALLY COMPLETELY SOLD OUT. 
          WE AS OF LAST, UH, LAST MONTH, IT ACTUALLY COMPLETELY SOLD OUT. 
          UM, SO IT SOLD OUT IN LESS THAN A YEAR. 
          UM, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THE, THE, YOU KNOW, UH, W WE ALL KNOW HOW HOT THIS MARKET IS FOR REAL ESTATE, BUT THE, THE, THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY, THE LEVEL OF INTEREST, UM, FOR FOLKS TO, TO LIVE AND TO WORK, AND HONESTLY, TO PAY SALES TAX IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA. 
          AND, UM, SO IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THAT COMMUNITY SELL AS QUICKLY AS IT DID. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE LEARNED FROM, FROM SELLING IN THIS COMMUNITY WAS ABOUT A THIRD. 
          THE HOMES PURCHASED, UH, IN THIS COMMUNITY WERE PURCHASED BY FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS TEACHERS, UM, AND NOT ONLY THAT OVER HALF OF THE, OF THE FOLKS WHO, WHO PURCHASED HERE WERE FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS. 
          SO JUST, IT WAS JUST KIND OF AN INDICATION OF THE TYPE OF, UH, TYPE OF FOLKS THAT ARE LOOKING TO, TO BUY IN THIS AREA, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE SORT OF A SITE PLAN. 
          I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. 
          SO IN TERMS OF THE FRONTAGE, UM, AS I MENTIONED, THIS, THIS PRODUCT JUST DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE KAREN 56 PROJECT, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU, WHO'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UH, TO DRIVE THIS AREA, UM, WE WILL BE CONTINUING THE, THE STAIRS UP TO, TO THE STOOPS. 
          UM, WE'LL BE CONTINUING THE, THE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS THE TREES WITH THE METAL GRADING. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN AS YOU, AS YOU GO INTO THE, THE PROJECT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THE, THE ENTRANCE IS AS THIS KIND OF MAIN CENTRAL, UM, ENHANCED KIND OF ENTRY, UM, WITH THE SIGNAGE ON, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE, OF THE ENTRY, AS WELL AS, AS, UH, AS LANDSCAPE TREES. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN THING THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE FOR THIS PRODUCT IS, UM, WE HAVE A 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE FROM ANY, FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I KNOCKED ON THE DOORS OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, AND I EXPLAINED THE SETBACK, I WAS ABLE TO PUT A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD AT EASE CAUSE THEY, THEY SAW THAT SETBACK AND THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PAYING RESPECT TO MY PRIVACY. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THIS PRODUCT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, A CURRENT STREET SCENE OF, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST FINANCIAL CORPORATE CENTER. 
          IT'S ONE OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE. 
          UM, IT'S A SINGLE STORY BUILDING, AS YOU CAN SEE. 
          THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN THE FACADE. 
          UM, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE SETBACK OFF OF WEST CAMERON. 
          IT'S A TYPICAL OFFICE PARK, UM, THE PROPOSED STREET SCENE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, JUST GOING FROM, FROM THE STREET TO THE FRONT DOORS, UM, WE HAVE HERE THE NEXT TO THE CURB. 
          WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPING STRIP, UM, WITH TREES IN THE METAL GRADING. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE STAIRS THAT LEAD UP TO THE STOOP. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT WITHIN THE BUILDING HERE FROM BETWEEN EACH UNIT. 
          UM, TH THERE'S A LOT OF SETBACK BETWEEN EACH, EACH UNIT. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE STOOPS, IT CREATES THIS REALLY NICE, SMOOTH TRANSITION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR, REALLY WELCOMING URBAN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          AND, AND WE, WE PROPOSED A PROJECT THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN DOWN PLAN HERE. 
          HERE'S AN IMAGE OF THE PROPOSED ENTRY, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA VISUALLY OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN 3D. 
          UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH THE ENTRY SIGNS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ENTRY, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE TO DO WITH THIS RENDERING ALSO WAS, WAS SHOW IT DURING THE EVENING SPECIFICALLY TO SHOW WHAT THE LIGHTS TURNED ON. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE EXISTING USE, IT'S AN OFFICE PARK, UM, AT NIGHT IT'S DARK, THE EVERYTHING'S LOCKED. 
          IT'S NOT THE MOST INVITING PLACE TO WALK AROUND, BUT THE DOWNTOWN PLAN ENVISIONED THIS REVITALIZED KIND OF URBAN 
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WALKABLE TYPE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND SO WE WANTED TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT AND HOW INVITING THAT WOULD LOOK, YOU KNOW, FOR FOLKS TO BE WALKING DOWN THE STREET WEST CAMERON IMAGE OF THE, OF THE INTERNAL PASEOS AND THE KIND OF CENTRAL LOOPED AREA. 
          UM, THERE IS A, UH, PASEO THAT RUNS DOWN BETWEEN THE, THE TOWNHOME UNITS. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE IS UTILIZED. 
          SO NOT ONLY ARE WE PROVIDING THE PRIVATE OPEN, UH, OPEN SPACE IN THE SECOND STORY DECK OF THESE UNITS, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING, UM, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING, UH, THE, THE DECKS ON THE GROUND FLOOR. 
          SO FOLKS CAN, YOU KNOW, FURTHER ENJOY, THEY CAN HAVE A PICNIC, A BARBECUE, I'VE JUST MORE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE FOR FOLKS TO ENJOY. 
          AND THIS NEIGHBOR GO AHEAD. 
          IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, WE STARTED VERY SIMILAR TO THE, THE PROJECT, UH, THE WEST CAMP, OR THE SORRY, THE, THE VINCENT PROJECT. 
          WE STARTED OUTREACH EARLY 20, 20, AND UNFORTUNATELY COVID HAPPENED AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET IN PERSON, BUT WE DID HOLD A, A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, VIA ZOOM AND EVERYONE WITHIN A 300 FOOT RADIUS OF THE PROJECT WAS NOTICED. 
          UM, AND THEY WERE SENT A, UH, AN FAQ FLYER, THE SITE PLAN, AND THEN ALSO, UM, UH, A QR CODE TO A LINK TO, TO SCHEDULE SOME TIME WITH ME TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS. 
          SO HERE'S THE NEW, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW KIND OF GRAPHICALLY THAT THIS IS THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE NOTICED IN, IN THE 300 FOOT RADIUS. 
          UM, AND, AND AFTER MEETING WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HERE AND, AND, AND GATHERING THE FEEDBACK, UH, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME UP IN OUR MEETING WITH THEM. 
          UM, ONE OF THEM WAS MAINTAINING, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN ADJACENT NEIGHBOR PRIVACY? AND WHAT'S THE LANDSCAPING GOING TO BE DONE ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, ON THE, ON THE SITE PLAN, WE HAVE OVER 111 TREES PROPOSED ON THIS SITE PLAN. 
          UM, THERE'S 14 EXISTING TREES SPECIFICALLY IN THE AREA THAT I, THAT I OUTLINE IN, IN THE, ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE, THERE'S 14 EXISTING TREES. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PROPOSING 34 TREES IN THE SAME GENERAL LOCATION. 
          IT'S A MIX OF TRISTAN AND CYPRESS TREES, 24 INCH AND 36 INCH BOX TREES. 
          AND AFTER WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE HEIGHT. 
          SO, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE, UM, UH, WE'RE PROVIDING A MINIMUM 12 FOOT TALL, UH, HEIGHT FOR, FOR THE TREES ON THIS SOUTHERN BORDER. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF THAT, THE 50 FOOT SETBACK, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN SHOWING THAT TO THE NEIGHBORS, IT EATS A LOT OF THERE CONCERNS. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD COMMENT, UH, WAS CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS. 
          UM, AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE, THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UM, IN YOUR PACKET FROM, FROM ONE OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS WHAT IS THE, UM, HOW ARE, HOW IS NOISE AND DUST BEING MITIGATED DURING CONSTRUCTION? SO, UM, UH, WE WILL BE INSTALLING SITE, UM, SIGHT SOUND BLANKETS ON, ON SITE TO MITIGATE FOR THE NOISE AND DUST THAT'S GENERATED DURING CONSTRUCTION. 
          ALSO, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE REGULARLY WATERING THE SITE SO THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE DUST DOWN DURING CONSTRUCTION. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN WHAT WE'VE FOUND FOR KAREN 56. 
          THAT'S BEEN EXTREMELY, UH, USEFUL, UM, TRACK TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PAYING RESPECT TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION WAS, UM, CAN THE NEW COMMUNITY HOA ENFORCED NOISE COMPLAINTS. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, W WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE CCNRS THAT REQUIRE THAT, THAT, UM, THAT REQUIRES QUIET HOURS FROM 10:00 PM TO 8:00 AM. 
          AND, UH, THE HOA HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THOSE QUIET HOURS. 
          SO IN CONCLUSION, YOU KNOW, TH THIS PROJECT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSISTENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE NEW ATTAINABLE, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. 
          THIS IS TRUE WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          THIS IS FHA QUALIFIED. 
          UM, FHA LOAN LIMIT HERE IS, IS, IS OVER 800,000. 
          SO ALL OF THESE HOMES QUALIFY FOR, FOR FHA, UH, FOR AN FHA LOAN ONLY THREE AND A HALF PERCENT DOWN. 
          UM, THIS IS WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, YOU KNOW, AT ITS CORE. 
          UM, IT'S GOT AN ATTRACTIVE VARIETY OF FLOOR PLANS. 
          WIDE-RANGE IT HAS A WIDE RANGE OF PRICE POINTS PER FLOOR PLAN. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS, IT'S DEFINITELY AN ATTRACTIVE OPTION. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF CLOSELY. 
          IT'S BEEN AN EXTREMELY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE DURING THIS, IN THIS TOUGH TIME DURING COVID. 
          UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          WE HAVE OUR TEAM OF CONSULTANTS HERE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THEM, THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I'M HERE AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU 
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AT THIS TIME. 
          WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FOR THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, PLEASE, THOSE OPPOSED THAT ARE FOR THE PROJECT AGAINST, OKAY. 
          THEY'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. 
          I, YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO OPPOSE FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT THE PROJECTS THAT WERE DONE BEFORE I LIVE OFF OF SHAREWAY STREET AND CAMERON, AND, UM, WE LIVE, UH, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE TOWNHOMES. 
          AND, UM, WE WERE NEVER TOLD THAT THE FOUNDATION OF THE TOWNHOMES WAS GOING TO BE, THE DIRT WAS GOING TO BE SO HIGH IN OUR WALL. 
          IT JUST CEMENT. 
          IT WAS OVER THE DIRT. 
          SO WHEN THEY WATER THEIR PLANTS, THE WATER SEEPS OVER TO OUR SIDE. 
          IT WAS GOING DOWN OUR DRIVEWAY. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BETTER NOW, BUT IT STILL SEEPS OVER. 
          AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, WE COULD SEE THEM FROM THE WAIST UP. 
          WE WERE NEVER TOLD THAT I HAVE A HANDICAPPED DAUGHTER, AND WE CAN'T EVEN WALK HER OUT BECAUSE SHE HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND THEY JUST STARE AND WE HAVE TO KEEP HER INDOORS. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME PLANTS THERE, BUT YOU STILL COULD SEE THROUGH, WE CAN SMELL THEIR SMOKE, THEIR POT. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS SMOKING POT. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S MY MAIN COMPLAINT. 
          WE HAD TO PUT A TARP ABOUT BEING FROM MAYBE A LITTLE SHORTER THAN DEATH, A WHITE ONE TO GIVE US PRIVACY. 
          THE HOUSE DOESN'T LOOK PRETTY NICE WITH THE TARP, BUT AT LEAST IT GIVES US PRIVACY. 
          SO, UM, ERIN HAD TOLD US THAT NO WINDOWS WERE GOING TO BE IN OUR SIDE. 
          CAUSE WE HAVE A SWIMMING POOL. 
          SHE USED TO GO SWIMMING. 
          NOW SHE CAN'T GO SWIMMING. 
          THERE ARE SOME BIG WINDOWS IN OUR SIDE TOO. 
          HE SAID THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE SMALL. 
          THEY'RE NOT ALL SMALL. 
          LET ME SEE. 
          WELL, THE PRIVACY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PRIVACY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER ONES. 
          UH, I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE OTHER ONES, BUT EXCEPT FOR THE TRAFFIC, WHICH I DON'T DRIVE THAT MUCH. 
          BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THEY TELL THE PEOPLE IS NOT REALLY WHAT IT'S DONE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, ALL WE HAVE TO LIVE. 
          NOW, IF PEOPLE LOOKING OVER THERE SMOKING, WE COULD SEE THEM FROM THE WAIST UP BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE TAIL END. 
          WE'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEM. 
          YOU CAN HEAR HIM LAUGHING. 
          OH, NIN, THE GATE WAS OPEN FOR A WHILE AND THEY USED TO WALK. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE SMALL DOGS, HAVE BIG DOGS. 
          WALK HIM, LET THEIR BUSINESS OUT IN THE STREET, RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I GUESS SOMEBODY ELSE COMPLAINED BECAUSE THEY HAD THE GATES LOCKED NOW, BUT THEIR LITTLE DOGS DO COME THROUGH. 
          THAT'S IT'S A RIDE. 
          AREN'T THEY COME THROUGH IN THE EVENING. 
          THEY GO BACK IN. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO THE VISITS. 
          I DON'T CHECK. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT. 
          SO THEY DON'T TELL YOU A LOT OF THINGS. 
          AND THEN JOE, OUR NEIGHBOR, HE GOT SO FRUSTRATED. 
          CAUSE HIS WALL IS REAL SHORT. 
          HE JUST GOT SO SICK AND HE JUST MOVED OUT BECAUSE AT THE SAME PROBLEM, HE LIVES BACK TO BACK. 
          HE USED TO LIVE BACK TO BACK WITH US. 
          I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WHAT THEY SAY IS NOW WHAT THEY DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE? 
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THANK YOU. 
          TAKING MY COMMENTS. 
          UM, MY NAME IS TOM . 
          I'M ONE OF THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, THAT WE'LL BE SHARING AN ADJACENT WALL. 
          AND, UH, MY, MY MAIN CONCERN, CAUSE I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THIS 50 FOOT SETBACK IS HAVING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH THE NEW PROPERTY WILL BE SET BACK AGAINST MY WALL WILL BE THE PARKING AND THE STREET. 
          SO IT, IT, IT'S NOT LIKE I'M 50 FEET BACK FROM, FROM MY NEW NEIGHBORS THAT ARE COMING. 
          SO MY CONCERN, IT HAS MORE NOT, NOT TO DO SO MUCH WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE UNIT, BUT WHETHER THE CCNRS ARE WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT CAN KEEP THE NOISE DOWN FROM CARS THAT ARE PARKED NEXT TO MY WALL, THE WALL, THE JASON WALL IS ONLY 13 FEET FROM MY BEDROOM. 
          SO IF PEOPLE ARE LEAVING UNITS LATE AT NIGHT AND TALKING OR LISTENING TO THE RADIO, UM, THAT WOULD BE, UH, A LOT OF NOISE FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH IT WON'T AFFECT THE PEOPLE IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO I WAS TOLD THAT THE CCNRS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY. 
          AND SO THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN AND NOT SO MUCH THE NOISE FROM THE UNITS, BUT THE NOISE ON THE STREET AND THE PARKING NEXT TO MINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? YES. 
          WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU, W WOULD YOU PREFER HAVING THE, HAVING THE PARKING, UH, BE CLOSER TO THE UNITS AS OPPOSED TO ALONG THE WALL, SUCH THAT THAT'S JUST SORT OF A TRANSIT CORRIDOR? WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER, BUT, BUT, UH, FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT, UM, I'M GUESSING THAT WHOEVER BUYS THOSE UNITS WOULDN'T WANT THE PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR UNITS EITHER. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO FIND SOME SORT OF SAM I'M NOT AGAINST WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT THERE'S HAS TO BE BALANCED BETWEEN WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT THE CITY NEEDS AS WELL. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS ARE KIND OF MITIGATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE I'M NOT HERE? UH, MY NAME IS KIM POON, A 1 0 1 HUDSON LANE. 
          UH, ACTUALLY YOU SEE A CAMERA IN 56 NEW, UH, 10, UH, NEW OWNER THERE. 
          UH, ONE OF THE CONCERN, UH, IS REGARDING THE, UH, TRAFFIC SITUATION AND THE SPEED LIMIT ON, UM, ON CAMERON AVENUE. 
          UH, ONCE WE MOVED IN, UH, THE SPEED LIMIT ON CAMERA AND SEEMS LIKE IS, IS OUTRAGEOUS. 
          PEOPLE ARE RAISING AT NIGHT AND WE KEEP HEARING ALL THE, ALL THE NOISE AND, UM, ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ACTUALLY DO HAVE A CONCERN. 
          IF THERE IS ANYTHING, ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE A THREE-WAY STOP SIGN ON TO LUCA AND CAMERON IS RIGHT NOW, WE ONLY HAVE THE STOP SIGN AT TOLUCA WHERE IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE ANY TURNS. 
          SO THAT IS ONE OF THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND ALSO BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILDING UP A SEC, LIKE FOR, FOR US CAN CONSIDER A SECOND PHASE, UH, CONSIDER BUILDING A, UH, GATE GATED COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AT NIGHT THERE'S, UH, UNWELCOME VISITOR COMING IN AND OUT. 
          AND WE SAW THAT EVERY SINGLE NIGHT AT OUR, UH, ON OUR RAIN, UH, CAMERA'S STEREO. 
          SO THERE'S ONE OF ALL AND THE OTHER CONCERN ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I HAVE PET, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO IS OPPOSED AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL OPEN, I'M SORRY. 
          WE SHOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE, UH, OPPOSITION COMMENTS FOR DUE PROCESS. 
          I, FOR SARAH AND COMMISSIONERS I'M TALERICO I WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER ON CAMERA, 56, I'M A COLLEAGUE AND MATS. 
          UM, AND I JUST SORT OF CAROLYN SPEAK. 
          I'VE SPOKE TO HER IN THE HALL EARLIER, BEFORE THIS HEARING, UH, EVERYTHING SHE SAID IS, UH, HAS VALIDITY. 
          AND I'M GOING TO GO SIT DOWN WITH HER AFTER THIS HEARING AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO THE UNITS HAVE BEEN BUILT, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING'S IN THERE, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAYBE MITIGATE SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE HAVING THERE. 
          I THINK, YOU KNOW, POST OUR PROJECT, THEY'VE MADE AN AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS 
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A SMART AMENDMENT. 
          AND THEN THAT'S WHAT IS CREATED NOW OUR NEW PROJECT WITH THAT 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM A SINGLE FAMILY. 
          WHEN WE INITIALLY CAME IN, WE HAD THREE STORIES WITHIN FIVE FEET. 
          THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE ALLOWED TO WHEN THAT INITIAL DOWNTOWN PLAN UNTIL FINALLY, YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING WITH CAROLYN AND A COUPLE OTHER NEIGHBORS ADJACENT, THEY WEREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THAT HEIGHT LIMIT NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY. 
          SINGLE FAMILY COULD GO TWO STORIES. 
          WE WERE THREE. 
          AND SO WE ACTUALLY VOLUNTARILY BROUGHT DOWN TO TWO, UM, WHICH DID COME AT QUITE A BIG BIT OF COST BECAUSE WE HAD ENDED UP WITH 14 UNIT BUILDINGS CAUSE IT MADE OUR BUILDINGS CONNECT. 
          UM, UH, I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER HANG, YOU WERE ON THAT PLANNING, WHICH WHEN WE DID THAT, THAT WAS LIKE A LAST MINUTE CHANGE WE MADE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING, I THINK SINCE WE WERE THE FIRST ONE, OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS SOME PRICE MISTAKES, OR MAYBE SOME STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING BETTER THIS TIME. 
          AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN SHOW THAT. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE US TO DO, JUST LET, PLEASE LET US KNOW, BUT I WILL BE SITTING DOWN WITH, UH, CAROLYN AND HER HUSBAND TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM OUT. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW THINGS BEFORE THE HEARING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, OH, AND THEN MATT CAN ANSWER THE OTHER TWO QUESTIONS. 
          HE'S GOT TO ANSWER THOSE THINGS. 
          HI COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I WANTED TO THANK THE, THE NEIGHBORS FOR PROVIDING, UM, PROVIDING THEIR COMMENTS AND, AND, UH, REGARDING THE COMMENT ABOUT CCNRS AND, AND, UH, UM, HAVING CARS, UM, PARKED ON THE SOUTH SIDE, CONCERNED WITH NOISE. 
          UM, THE HOA CAN ABSOLUTELY, UM, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THE LANGUAGE AND THE CCNRS, THE HOA CAN ABSOLUTELY, UM, ENFORCE ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY, ANY FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING IN THEIR CAR SAY BLASTING THEIR MUSIC THAT IS WITHIN THE HOS PURVIEW TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. 
          UM, SO, UH, THAT'S DEFINITELY WITHIN THE HOS PURVIEW, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVING A GATED COMMUNITY, I THINK MOST OF THESE ACTUALLY HAVE A GENERAL PLAN POLICY AGAINST HAVING GATED COMMUNITIES. 
          I THINK, UM, HAVING READ THE DOWNTOWN PLAN A FEW TIMES, UM, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN TO KIND OF CLOSE PEOPLE OFF, ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DESIGN OF, OF STOOPS AND REALLY HAVING THAT KIND OF PRIVATE PUBLIC INTERACTION. 
          UM, ALSO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, SOME TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS WHEN YOU HAVE TO, UM, CONSIDER THE, THE, UH, THE, THE LOADING TO TURN INTO THE COMMUNITY, IF, IF IT STARTS TO STACK UP, THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE TRAFFIC. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, WE DID, WE WORKED WITH STAFF, WE LOOKED AT THE SITE PLAN, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DESIGNING IT IN THE WAY THAT'S, UM, LEAST IMPACTFUL TO TRAFFIC. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO CURRENT DRIVEWAYS RIGHT NOW. 
          WE, WE CONDENSED IT TO ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE LEAVING IN, IN, IN, AT THE SAME TIME. 
          IT'S, IT'S ONE, IT'S ONE, UH, ENTRY AND, UM, AND IT IS NOT GATED FOR, FOR THAT VERY REASON. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER THAT. 
          UM, I'M HERE, IF YOU HAVE GUYS, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, UM, I I'VE PUT A FEW QUESTIONS, UM, WITH REGARD TO, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE, TO THE SINGLE DRIVEWAY DESIGN. 
          UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT JUST GIVEN THE DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT. 
          THIS IS 84 UNITS, CAMERON 56 OBVIOUSLY WAS 56 UNITS. 
          UM, AND JUST DRIVING THROUGH CAMERON 56. 
          I, I DID THAT AGAIN TODAY ON MY WAY. 
          AND I WAS, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. 
          AND, AND I, I SEE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I, THAT I THINK YOU'RE MISSING ON. 
          UM, THE FACT IS, IS THAT YOU HAVE TO LUCA THERE. 
          AND HONESTLY, I, I THINK IF YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE TO THE, UH, UM, TO, TO THE, UH, UH, TO THE EAST THERE OF LIKE, I GUESS IT WOULD BE THIS, THIS UNIT RIGHT HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IT WOULD, IT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE IN TERMS OF CONNECTING TO TOLUCA AND THEN GIVING PEOPLE DIRECT FREEWAY ACCESS, AS OPPOSED TO, AS OPPOSED TO SORT OF HAVING TO GO AROUND. 
          I, I, I THINK THAT GIVEN WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS QUITE FRANKLY MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO HAVE A SECOND DRIVEWAY. 
          THERE'S ALSO EMERGENCY REASONS WHY I CAN SEE HAVING TWO DRIVEWAYS MAYBE BETTER THAN ONE. 
          SURE. 
          HERE THERE'S THERE ISN'T THAT, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, DO YOU MIND IF I JUST GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO THAT? YEAH. 
          SO YOU KNOW THAT I THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT IT IS SOMETHING, WHEN WE WERE FIRST LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, WE, WE DID HAVE TWO ENTRIES THAT CONCERN THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, FROM, FROM STAFF AND, AND, UM, AND, UM, AND TRAFFIC IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE LOOKED AT HAVING AN ENTRY ON THAT SIDE, IT'S SO CLOSE TO TOLUCA THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A, AN OFFSET INTERSECTION, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          SO IT ACTUALLY CREATES MORE OF AN ISSUE. 
          CAUSE THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY TO, IF THEY WANT TO TRY TO GET TO THE FREEWAY OR TO THE CITY HALL, 
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THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO OUT KIND OF, AND ONTO TOLUCA. 
          SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE WHERE, WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT INTERSECTION IS LOCATED, THE, THE WAY THAT WE HAVE IT, UM, LOCATED CENTRALLY, IS IT SO THAT IT'S OFFSET FAR ENOUGH FROM TOLUCA TO GIVE FOLKS ENOUGH TIME, UM, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, GET INTO THAT LEFT-HAND TURN LANE, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY ARE TRYING TO GO UP TO LUCA. 
          UM, AND, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF A FIRE, WE, WE, WE DID, UM, WORK WITH, UH, THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, IS OKAY WITH, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE ONE ENTRY. 
          AND THAT, THAT IS HOW WE GOT TO THIS. 
          WE, WE GOT THERE OKAY. 
          THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE, WITH THE SINGLE ENTRY AND KIND OF THE CENTRAL LOOP TO ROAD. 
          I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY ON THAT IS THAT WE HAVE SORT OF OFFSET OFFSET ENTRIES THAT ARE, OR TRAFFIC LIGHTS. 
          I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE EXIT FROM THE 10 FREEWAY AT, UH, AT SUNSET. 
          THERE'S A, I BELIEVE THERE'S A, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND PEOPLE COME STRAIGHT IN AND OUT WITH LIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          HONESTLY, I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT OPTION HERE. 
          UM, AND QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK IT SERVES THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY IT'S BUILT, UM, JUST MY OPINION, BUT, UH, I, I, I UNDERSTAND, UM, WITH REGARD TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, UH, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE, UH, UH, OF, OF THE WALL HEIGHT. 
          YES. 
          HOW, HOW TALL IS THE WALL ON THE, ON THE BACKSIDE, THE BACKSIDE WE'RE PROPOSING A SIX FOOT TALL, A BLOCK WALL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALONG WITH THE, THE LANDSCAPING THAT, THAT I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE, D DID YOU RECEIVE ANY, UH, ANY, ANY COMMENTS, UM, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE, THE, THE WALL HEIGHT AND WHAT IS THE GRADE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED? YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO, TO CONFIRM THAT, BUT I CAN BRING UP OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO TALK ABOUT THE GRADE DIFFERENTIAL, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          JUST TO, OKAY. 
          THERE'S A VERY MINOR RETAINING SITUATION. 
          UH, MIKE SUTTON, SORRY. 
          UH, CIVIL, SOMEONE'S GOT TO COME WITH HER. 
          UM, THAT'S ABOUT A FOOT AND A HALF. 
          UH, SO YOU'D BE, YOU KNOW, THE SIX PLUS ABOUT A FOOT AND A HALF DIFFERENCE IN GRADE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          HIGHER OR LOWER. 
          I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, FOOT AND A HALF HIGHER OR LOWER, HIGHER. 
          AND IS THERE, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, IF I SHOULD ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, BUT IS THERE ANY SORT OF, UH, DRAINAGE MITIGATION THAT IS, THAT IS GOING ON WITH REGARD TO THE BACKSIDE OF THAT PROPERTY? NO, THE WATER IS GOING TOWARD THE, THE STREET SORTS OF STREET. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES THERE? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          I WOULD JUST MENTION, I THINK THAT, THAT THE TOLUCA, UM, QUESTION I'D BE CONCERNED WITH THE INTERSECTION SPACING, IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT AS WELL, JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. 
          GOT IT. 
          FOR THE, THE, OUR MOVEMENTS. 
          SO, YEAH, ACTUALLY I'M, I'M SORRY, COULD YOU, COULD YOU COME BACK, MIKE? SORRY. 
          UM, THE FOOT AND A HALF THAT YOU MENTIONED IS THAT ON, ON THE SOUTH SIDE? YEAH, THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. 
          I THINK IT WAS TOWARD THE MIDDLE AND IT STARTS TO GET BACK TO EXISTING GRADE. 
          AS ON YOU, AS YOU GO TO EACH SIDE TOWARD, TOWARD THE, TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT WAS WHERE WE THINK IT WAS THE HIGHEST, I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT A FOOT AND A HALF. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THEN THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPING ON THAT AREA, THE LANDSCAPE WASN'T THE SIZE SETBACK AREA, HOW MUCH OF A LAND AREA IS OUT. 
          SO IT WOULD BE A RETAINING SITUATION OR THE FOOT AND A HALF, WHICH IS REALLY NOT CONSIDERED A RETAINING AT ALL. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT'D BE TAKEN UP BY THE WALL ITSELF. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I HAD, I HAD A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, UM, WITH, WITH REGARD TO THAT, THAT BACK WALL, UM, YOU HAD PROPOSED, UH, CYPRESS TREES AND THEN THERE'S, I BELIEVE SEVEN TREES THAT ARE, UM, IT APPEARS BASED ON THE OVERHEAD THAT THEY WOULD ENCROACH INTO. 
          UM, UH, I GUESS AT, AT FULLY GROWN, THEY WOULD ENCROACH INTO THE, UH, UM, TO, TO THE BACK NEIGHBOR'S YARD AS, HAS THAT BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH, WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS? UM, IT, IT HASN'T BEEN SOMETHING, A CONCERN THAT THEY BROUGHT UP, BUT IT WAS A CONCERN BROUGHT UP FOR ANOTHER PRODUCT FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE VINCENT PROJECT. 
          AND, UM, WHAT WE CAN DO IS INCLUDE LANGUAGE IN THE CCNRS THAT REQUIRE THAT THE TREES BE TRIMMED AT THE PROPERTY LINE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR THESE, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS TRY 
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TO IMPACT THEM WITH ABSOLUTELY DEBRIS. 
          UM, AND THEN, AND THEN GETTING IT AT THE HEIGHT, THERE WERE CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING THE, UM, UH, SOME, SOME VIEW CONSIDERATIONS, I GUESS, UM, THAT WERE, THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          W IN, IN DISCUSSING THE HEIGHT OF THE TREES THAT ARE PUT IN THE, IN THE BACK AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, HAS THERE BEEN UNANIMOUS OR UNANIMITY, UM, IN SORT OF PROPERTY OWNERS FEELINGS ABOUT HOW HIGH THOSE SHOULD BE, OR WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE SORT OF A CAP AT, LET'S SAY SEVEN FEET OR EIGHT FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? OH, IN TERMS OF, OF THE HEIGHT, LIKE, SO IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THEIR VIEW OR, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          I THINK I, I, FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT I SPOKE TO AT LEAST, UM, HEIGHT WAS PREFERRED. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR US. 
          WE, YEAH. 
          WE, WE, THEY, WE, THEY WANTED THE 12 FOOT TALL BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SEE ANY THREE STORY TOWN HOMES. 
          AND I TOLD HIM ABOUT IT. 
          I TOLD HIM, I, I, I, I BRING IT UP BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS I'LL BRING UP ON THE VINCENT PROJECT. 
          THERE WAS ONE NEIGHBOR THAT DIDN'T WANT A NEW FENCE, AND RIGHT. 
          I KNOW YOU GUYS MADE SOME ACCOMMODATION TO THEM. 
          AND SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AT PLAY HERE WHERE THERE'S ONE NEIGHBOR THAT, OR TWO NEIGHBORS MAY BE POTENTIALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT JUST OUR INTERACTION RIGHT NOW, IS IT THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IS YEAH. 
          THEY, THEY W THEY WANT A NEW WALL, YOU KNOW, ON THE PROPERTY LINE AND, AND THEY WOULD LIKE THE TREES TO BE AT 12 FEET. 
          AND SO, AND, AND IN, IN THE BACK, IS IT, YOU SAID IT'S CYPRESS TREES, NOT ORDER CARPETS ON THIS. 
          YES. 
          IT'S, IT'S CYPRUS AND CHRISTIANIA OKAY. 
          HE IS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WE COULD, BUT IF, IF YOU HAVE IT ONLY, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT CYPRESS IS THEY SOMETIMES TEND TO BE MAINTENANCE ISSUES, PARTICULARLY FOR THE PEOPLE BEHIND THEM, BECAUSE THEY CAN BE OVERGROWN BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY YOU CAN'T ACCESS THEM. 
          AND SINCE YOU'RE BUILDING THEM ON THE, BASICALLY ON THE PROPERTY LINE, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, OR, UH, UH, A BUDDING TO THE WALL, THERE MAY BE ACCESS ISSUES FOR MAINTENANCE. 
          SO THAT MY CONCERN ON THAT FRONT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF A SETBACK THERE ON THAT FRONT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DO HAVE MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          WOULD YOU WANT TO HEAR, LIKE, I, I MEAN, I'M, I'M OPEN. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M HERE. 
          WE HAVE OUR WHOLE TINNY THING ON THAT FRONT ACTUALLY, BEFORE YOU GO, I DO HAVE A REALLY BASIC QUESTIONS. 
          OF COURSE, REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, OF COURSE. 
          UM, WHAT IS THE SETBACK FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE NORTH AND CAMERON? YES. 
          WHAT IS THE SETBACK FOR THAT AREA? BECAUSE THE PLAN THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ARE SO TINY, COULD BARELY READ SOME OF THE NUMBERS IN THERE, IF ANY, I CAN, I CAN WORK IT THROUGH WITH OH, YEAH. 
          AND THEN ALSO ON THE SIZE SETBACK, WHICH IS NEXT TO KEVIN, 50, UH, SIX. 
          MM. 
          AND ALSO ON THE OTHER, AND THEN THE BACK SETBACK WE'LL GO AROUND. 
          YEAH. 
          IN CLOCKWISE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, UH, ALONG WEST CAMERON HERE, WE HAVE, IT VARIES BECAUSE THE HOMES ARE KIND OF OFFSET. 
          SO WE HAVE A MINIMUM, A FIVE FOOT SETBACK. 
          IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THE, THE VISION OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN TO HAVE IT AS CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT PUBLIC PRIVATE. 
          SO IT'S A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET MAX, SEVEN FEET. 
          UM, AND THEN ON THE SIDE FOR THE WEST, CAMERON, THERE'S A, UM, UH, IT VARIES. 
          SO THERE THERE'S 20 FEET FOR THE TOP RIGHT CORNER. 
          AND THEN IT GOES TO 10 AND A HALF, SEVEN AND A HALF, AND IT STAYS AT SEVEN AND A HALF. 
          UM, ON THAT SIDE, WHAT SIZE IS THAT IS THAT IS ON THE CAMERON 56 SIDE. 
          AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE'S THAT 50 FOOT SETBACK THAT WE MENTIONED. 
          UM, AND THEN TH THE SAME TYPE OF CONDITION ON THE WEST SIDE AS IT IS ON CAMERON, SAME TYPE OF SETBACK, UM, WITH THE, THE, UH, TRANSITION FROM IT'S IT'S, IT'S ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF TO 10 AND A HALF, AND THEN IT GOES TO 10 AND THEN IN THAT NORTHWEST CORNER. 
          UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS EVERYTHING. 
          HMM. 
          I SEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT, THE HOUSES HERE, AND EVEN IN 57, UH, KIND OF IN 57 AS TRADITIONAL THIS, I SET BACK IT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MORE, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS COMMERCIAL AND RIGHT NEXT TO CAMERON, 57, UH, 56, I MEAN, BETWEEN SEVEN FEET AND THEN THE OTHER SIZE IS ALSO SEVEN FEET. 
          SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 14 FEET BASICALLY IN BETWEEN BUILDINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE, THE WAY THE, THE DOWNTOWN PLAN HAS IT, UM, ACTUALLY THE, THE CURRENT CONDITION, IF YOU GO THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A BUILDING THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          UM, SO IT'S A ZERO FOOT SETBACK BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND, AND, UM, AND TH THE NEXT BUILDING. 
          SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR US, WE'RE, WE'RE, 
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WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH SPACE AS POSSIBLE TO, TO GET A LANDSCAPING STRIP IN THERE TO PROVIDE TREES SO THAT WE ARE KIND OF MAINTAINING FOLKS PRIVACY. 
          UM, BUT, BUT THE CURRENT CONDITION RIGHT NOW IS A LOT WORSE THAN THAT. 
          THERE'S A ZERO FOOT SETBACK. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BACK OFF OF THAT, BUT IT'S COMMERCIAL. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE AS A, UH, PACIFIC PLAN ZONING FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, AND, AND CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, WE ALSO DO NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THOSE SETBACK ISSUES AS WELL. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SAID, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S 50 FEET SETBACK FROM THE BACKSIDE. 
          YES. 
          AND THE NEIGHBOR SETBACK, IT LOOKS PRETTY CLOSE. 
          THE NEIGHBORS PROPERTY LINES TO THEIR HOME. 
          THEY'RE ABOUT FIVE FEET. 
          NO, NO, NO, IT IT'S. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT VARIES, BUT IT'S BELIEVE IT'S AROUND 12 FEET IS, IS KIND OF THE, THE, THE MINIMUM SETBACK FROM, FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE TO THE PL FOR THEIR PL AND THEN, AND THEN ANOTHER 50 FEET ON TOP OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE TO, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE BUILDING, IS THAT THE 50 FEET? YES. 
          YES. 
          IT'S FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          SO FROM BUILDING THE BUILDING, IT'S REALLY LIKE 60 PLUS TYPE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR HAS ABOUT 12 FEET OR SO EXACTLY WHAT TAKE THE 50 FEET THAT YOU HAVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT VARIES. 
          SO, YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          UM, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE WAS REGARDING THE GATE. 
          THIS IS THE SECOND OR THE THIRD TIME THAT WE GO THROUGH THIS, ANY PARTICULAR REASON, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY IS IT THE RESISTANT, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PROJECT. 
          AND THEN CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 YEARS AGO, THAT WE DO HAVE PROJECTS THAT IS GATED IN WITHIN OUR CITY, HOWEVER, IN TODAY'S TIME WITH A LOT OF HOMELESS AND TRANSIT ISSUES, UM, ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY YOU'RE RESISTANT, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY FROM PROJECT TO PROJECT, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY WITH GATED IS IT'S NOT PROVIDED, I JUST WANT TO BUY IT. 
          AND THEN ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HEARING FROM THE NEXT DOOR COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT I HAVING ISSUES, I MEAN, BEFORE WE EVEN APPROVE THE PROJECT, SOME OF THE ISSUES HAS BEEN RAISED. 
          AND WE THOUGHT THAT THIS MAY BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT IS A DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, A HOMELESS ISSUE HAS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST MULTIPLYING AND ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY YOU WOULDN'T PUT A GATE. 
          YEAH, NO. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR US, IT'S, IT'S, UM, WE WANNA, WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO CONTRADICT THAT PLAN. 
          UM, AND IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WANT PEOPLE TO, UM, TO ACCESS THE SITE. 
          THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO, TO SEE FRONT DOORS. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND FOR US, WE'RE STILL SEEING THE FRONT DOOR. 
          I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT SEEING THE FRONT DOOR. 
          IT'S JUST THAT, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S CONCERNING THAT YOU CAN PUT A GATE IN THERE. 
          AND IF THERE'S NO ACTIVITY OR NO ISSUES WITH THE HOMELESS, THEY CAN EASILY OPEN IT. 
          IT'S ALSO A FIRE ISSUE. 
          SO, UM, WHEN A FIRE TRUCK IS TRYING TO GET INTO A GATED COMMUNITY, NOW YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE, A VERY SIGNIFICANT TURNAROUND. 
          W WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT, IT TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A TURNAROUND. 
          AND ALSO, UM, AND ALSO THERE'S, WE WANT TO PREVENT STACKING FOR CARS. 
          SO THEN NOT ONLY ARE WE PROVIDING THAT, THAT TURNAROUND, BUT ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING ANOTHER AREA, ANOTHER LANE, BASICALLY FOR FOLKS TO, TO STACK BEFORE THEY GET INTO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CROSS A TRAFFIC ISSUE. 
          UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DESIGN IMPLICATIONS WITH PROVIDING A GATED COMMUNITY BEYOND JUST, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST TRY TO LOCK OFF OUR, OUR COMMUNITIES HERE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT REALLY WASN'T THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE PUSHED BY BY STAFF. 
          SO BETA IS BASICALLY THE FIRE TRUCK. 
          WHEN THEY GO IN THERE, THEY CAN'T JUST DRIVE AROUND AND SOCO AND GET BACK OUT. 
          THEY WANT TO TURN AROUND SOMEWHERE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO CARVE THAT DESIGN INTO THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR US, IT, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A HUGE, UM, DESIGN IMPLICATION FOR US TO, TO, TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT OPTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WITH REGARD TO THE CONCERN THAT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HAD FOR TRAFFIC SINCE THIS IS QUICKLY BECOMING MORE RESIDENTIAL NOW THAN COMMERCIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, CAMERON IS THE MAJOR AVENUE TO GET TO THE, UH, 10 FREEWAY EASTBOUND WESTBOUND, EITHER DOWN GARVEY OR TO TURN RIGHT ON PACIFIC AND CATCH THE FREEWAY THERE, WOULD THEY, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE KNOW THE SPEED LIMIT RIGHT NOW IS 40 W WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON CAMERON? 
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SO MAYBE TO ADJUST THAT MAYBE TO A 35 OR SOMETHING THAT ALSO WOULD HELP THE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY ARE LEAVING TO POSSIBLY GET ON THE FREEWAY TO MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN, BECAUSE PEOPLE USUALLY GO PRETTY FAST, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE RUNNING LATE FOR WORK ON THAT STREET. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT THE TRAFFIC ON, ON WEST CAMERON IS IT IS INTENSE. 
          UM, SO W YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR, OUR SQL CONSULTANT KIND OF INVESTIGATE THAT, SEE WHAT OPTIONS, UM, THEY WOULD SUGGEST FOR THAT THEY ACTUALLY, UM, INVESTIGATED, YOU KNOW, WHETHER AN INTERSECTION WAS NECESSARY. 
          THERE WAS AN INTERSECTION ANALYSIS DONE ON BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE NEXT INTERSECTION. 
          THEY DETERMINED THAT THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY WANTED TO, TO DO. 
          I, I IMAGINE IT'S BECAUSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, CARS BACKING UP AND GREETING MORE OF A TRAFFIC ISSUE. 
          UM, BUT IF, IF THERE'S A DESIGN SOLUTION THAT, UM, THAT, THAT THE COMMISSION FEELS IS, IS SUITABLE FOR, FOR THAT INTERSECTION FOR TOLUCA. 
          UM, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH STAFF AND TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT MAKES EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC INTERSECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO, UM, ENTRY AND EXITING FROM CAMERON AVENUE, UH, ARE YOU REELING TO PUT A, UM, STRIPPING ON THE, ON THE GROUND RIGHT THERE WITH A STOP SIGN AND JUST THAT INTERSECTION AREA, UH, SOME LINES RIGHT HERE TO TELL, TO GIVE CARS THAT THE KNOWLEDGEABILITY TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND THE LEFT SIDE, THE DIFFERENCE, ABSOLUTELY. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          AND, AND, UM, YEAH, AND I, AND ALSO, I THINK, I'M SORRY. 
          I WANT TO SEE, UH, SO I THINK PUTTING LINES IN BETWEEN HERE, WHAT A STOP SIGN HERE AND POSSIBLY A STOP SIGN ON THIS CORNER AND THIS, THIS CORNER JUST  STOP. 
          AND SO IN CASE OF OUR EMERGENCY, THERE'S A CAUTION TAKEN, SO CARS ARE JUST ALL RUNNING OUT EXITING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I TOTALLY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          AND, AND, AND FOR US, IF, IF YOU COULD, IF, IF IT COULD BE A CONDITION, UM, THAT SAYS THAT WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION OF THOSE STOP SIGNS WOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING ENOUGH AND THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT IMPACTS THE ENTRANCE THERE. 
          UM, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'D ASK IS JUST, JUST LET US WORK WITH STAFF, BECAUSE AT THIS STAGE, IT'S, IT'S VERY SCHEMATIC. 
          WE, WE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY STOP SIGNS SHOWN CAUSE WE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH THE CITY DURING FINAL ENGINEERING, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL, UM, WE WILL BE WORKING OUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          AND THEN THE LIGHTS, UH, I MEAN, IT LOOKS, THE LIGHTENING LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, BUT IF THOSE HOMEOWNERS ARE PSYCHED TO TURN OFF THEIR LIGHTS AND SAVE ENERGY, UH, WHAT LIGHTS REMAIN IN THE FRONT ARE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UH, STREETLIGHTS OR, UH, WELL, YEAH, SO ON THE F ON THE FRONT DRAWING, THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHTING. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL. 
          BUT IF, IF THE RESIDENTS WERE RECEIVING AMEGY AND DECIDED TO TURN OFF THEIR FRONT PORCH LIGHTS, IS THERE LINING LIGHTING THAT YOUR PROJECT'S GOING TO ADD TO THIS SIDEWALK AREA WE CAN DO IS WE CAN, WE CAN ADD PATHWAY LIGHTING. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BED AND EVERYTHING,  IN ADDITION TO THE STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THERE, WE CAN, WE CAN ALSO ADD PATHWAY LIGHTING AS YOU'RE WALKING ALONG WEST CAMERON. 
          GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN, UM, REGARDS AND THEN, UH, WHAT, SO WHAT'S GOING IN, UH, THE BACKWARD, UM, THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THE, UH, THE HOUSES BACK THERE. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE A BRICK WALL, THAT'S IT? UH, IT'S UH, UH, CMU BLOCK WALL SPLIT FACE, UM, WITH A, WITH A CAP ON TOP. 
          SO IF I, SO IF I WAS THE NEIGHBOR BACK THERE, WHAT WOULD I SEE? YEAH. 
          HOW TALL IS THAT BLOCKED WALL LEAVE AT SIX FEET. 
          I HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT, BUT YEAH, I BELIEVE IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE THE PAST ISSUE, WE'LL PROBABLY WANT TO SOMEHOW 
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GET GOT THAT WALL HIGHER OR SOMETHING. 
          CAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE SAME ISSUE TO HAPPEN AT THE OTHER PROPERTY TOWN AGAIN. 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CREATE A PRIVACY BARRIER BETWEEN THAT THE NEW PROPERTY AND THE PRIOR CURRENT RESIDENCE ON UNDERSIGNED. 
          AND THEN, UM, MY FINAL QUESTION IS, UM, UH, IS THERE ANY, UH, CAL GREEN, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLE STATIONS GOING IN HERE? YES. 
          THIS PROJECT WILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSISTENT WITH, SO I THINK THE SAME CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD FOR THE VINCENT PRODUCT, THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH CAL GREEN AND THERE WOULD BE ED CHARGING STATIONS, UM, UT CAPABLE, UH, IN EACH GARAGE. 
          GREAT. 
          AND KIND OF LIKE THE PRIOR PROJECT WHERE YOU BE WILLING TO, UH, PUT NO PARKING SIGNS IN FRONT OF PEOPLES, UM, IN, IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC AREAS OF THE, OF THE GARAGE SPACES OR OUT TO ENSURE THERE'S NO OVERCROWDING PARKING OR YAWN IN THOSE STREETS. 
          THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          GREAT. 
          CAN I INTERJECT REAL QUICK COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ? THIS IS WHAT THE BLACK OR THE BACK WALL LOOKS LIKE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU ZOOM IN THAT'S AS CLOSE AS I CAN GET THE LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE. 
          THERE'S A SCREEN. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          SO I DO SEE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING A 7.7 FEET HIGH EXISTING METAL FENCE TO BE PAINTED BLOCK. 
          IF, UH, IS THAT AN AS, IS THERE, IS THERE AN OPTION TO MAKE THAT A BRICK WALL SEVEN FEET HIGH? ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          ABSOLUTELY GREAT. 
          THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS ACTUALLY. 
          HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          SO THAT PARTICULAR WALL RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE SOME AREA IS BLOCK WALL, SOME AREAS WOULDN'T WOODEN FENCE, IT SEEMS LIKE. 
          SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PLANNING TO MAKE ANOTHER WALL, RIGHT? HOW MANY FEET AWAY FROM THE EXISTING BLACK WALL? SO EXISTING WALL. 
          SO IS THAT A WALL OR IS THAT THAT'S UGLY? SORRY. 
          I THINK WE CAN ELIMINATE SOME CONFUSION HERE. 
          WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHO PREPARED THE, UH, THE WALL AND FENCE PLAN. 
          HE CAN COME IN AND HELP US, UM, PROVIDE SOME 30 HERE, JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW YOU'RE PLANNING TO PUT PARKING ON THAT AREA WITH RESIDENTIAL, PRACTICALLY THE BEDROOMS AND WHAT TYPE OF BALL YOU'RE PLAYING WITH THE FOOT. 
          I JUST ASSUME IT WAS A BLACK BOX. 
          LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, THIS PARTICULAR PLAN YOU'RE HAVING 84 UNITS, BUT YOU'RE MAKING A 12 BY 17 SIZE THE DETAILS IN THERE. 
          I DON'T, I'M NOT EVEN SURE OF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN READ ANY OF THE NUMBERS. 
          SO HOPEFULLY JUST FOR FUTURE PREFERENCE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GET A BIGGER SIZE THAT AT LEAST WE IT'S LEGIBLE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY READ IT. 
          NOT THIS ONE. 
          IT'S THE ONE THAT YOU SUBMITTED. 
          IT'S THIS ONE IT'S AS THE SAME SIZE. 
          IT LOOKS ABOUT THE SAME. 
          YEAH, I, I THINK SO. 
          UM, I ALSO, I, A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I ALSO DID EMAIL YOU THE, THE PLANS AHEAD OF TIME, UM, WHERE, WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, IN, IN IT CAN BE ZOOMED IN AS MUCH. 
          BUT I, I DO UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS. 
          WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO READ THE LATEST ONES, BECAUSE SOMETIME WE DON'T KNOW WHAT GOT ADJUSTED AND CHANGED. 
          AND AS I WAS LOOKING AT HIM AND SAID, MY GOSH, I COULD BARELY, I AGREE. 
          I AGREE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF PRETTY GOOD EYESIGHT FOR NOW. 
          NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          I GOT YA. 
          I GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT BRIEFLY, I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE SLIDE IN THE IMAGE UP ON THE SCREEN SHOWS THE SEVEN FOOT METAL ROD IRON METAL FENCE THAT EXISTS ON THE SITE RIGHT NOW ORDERING THE RESIDENCES TO THE WEST, RIGHT. 
          ADJACENT TO THAT IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE A BLOCK WALL, PROBABLY BUILT BY THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WHENEVER IT WAS CONSTRUCTED. 
          AND THAT CONFIGURATION APPEARS TO CONTINUE ALL ALONG THAT WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE, A COMBINATION OF A SEVEN FOOT METAL FENCE AND A SIX FOOT PROBABLY BLOCK WALL. 
          BUT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO IS KEEP BOTH, NOT TOUCH THE BLOCK WALL. 
          AND HE'S GONNA, HE'S PROPOSING TO PAINT THAT EXISTING METAL FENCE. 
          THERE IS NO NEW BLOCK WALL PROPOSED ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE, JUST THAT METAL FENCE THAT WILL REMAIN, BUT BE PAINTED HOW TALL IS THE BLOCK WALL. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THE IRON FENCES IS TALLER. 
          IT IS TALLER. 
          YEAH. 
          HOW MUCH TALLER? WELL IN THE IMAGE. 
          SO IT APPEARS IN SOME PLACES IT MIGHT BE A FOOT AND A HALF TALLER. 
          IN OTHER THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE CIVIL THAT THERE'S SOME GRADE DIFFERENTIATION, DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIAL. 
          SO IN SOME PLACES IT MAY BE, UH, A FOOT DIFFERENCE. 
          UM, I, I CAN'T BE PRECISE BASED ON THIS GOOGLE IMAGE. 
          IF YOU, IF I WERE TO STAND ON THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHEN I PARKED MY CAR RIGHT THERE, I CAN ACTUALLY LOOK THROUGH THE BLACK. 
          I MEAN, YOU 
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CAN, I CAN ACTUALLY LOOK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORS YARD. 
          WELL, YOU COULD, BUT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO ONCE THE PROJECT IS BUILT BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A COMBINATION OF THE, THE FENCE PLUS THE CYPRESS TREES THAT WILL BE AN EFFECTIVE SCREEN PLUS THE  TREES. 
          WHAT FENCE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I THOUGHT TO CHANCE THAT THERE'LL BE THE CYPRESS TREES THAT WILL BE AN EFFECTIVE SCREEN, CAUSE IT WILL BE PLANTED CLOSE TOGETHER AND THEY'RE THEY'RE COLUMNAR. 
          AND SO IN EFFECT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, TO LOOK FROM YOUR PARKED CAR, INTO THE NEIGHBORS HOUSE. 
          IN ADDITION, YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THIS VIEW THAT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, I MEAN, RIGHT HERE ARE LOWER THAN THE PROJECT SITE. 
          SO EVEN IF YOU'RE LOOKING OVER THE FENCE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ROOF AND FOR THE MOST PART, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING INTO NEIGHBORING WINDOWS FOR THE MOST PART. 
          SO THE BRONX, THE BLOCK WALL IS ON THE NEIGHBORS PARCEL, OR THIS PROPERTY'S PARCEL. 
          THE CIVIL WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT, BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET IT WAS BUILT AS PART OF THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND IT'S ON THAT PROPERTY, THOSE PROPERTIES, BUT THE ROD IRON IS PROBABLY ON THIS PROJECT SITE BECOMES AN ISSUE. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN CONSTRUCT A BRAND NEW WALL AT THAT, AT THAT LOCATION, UM, TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION. 
          HOW WOULD THAT WORK? WOULD YOU HAVE, SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO, WELL YOU HAVE TO GET THE NEIGHBORS PERMISSION OR SOMETHING TO KNOCK DOWN THAT WALL OR, YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO I CAN'T, I CAN'T PROMISE A HUNDRED PERCENT, WHICH IS WHY WE WANTED TO KEEP IT IN PLACE. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF HEIGHT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ADD THE WHOLE, THERE'LL BE A LITTLE MORE CALM. 
          UM, THE EXISTING ROD, IRON FENCING THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW IS IN REASONABLY GOOD SHAPE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAINT IT BLACK. 
          THAT'S WHY WE INTEND TO GET YOUR LANDSCAPER CONSIDERED PUDDING SHRUBS AS OPPOSED TO TREES AGAINST THAT AREA, BECAUSE IT DOES TWO THINGS. 
          IT WILL BE DANCED AND IT ALSO HELPS TO REDUCE NOISE. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE ITALIAN CYPRUS THAT GROW QUICKLY AND PROVIDE A THICK. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPED AREA IMMEDIATELY WHERE THAT ROD I AM FENCING IS THAT MAY SERVE TWO PURPOSES. 
          IT'LL ONE ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE ROD IRON FENCING THERE, BUT A DANCE SHRUB WOULD REDUCE SOUNDS AS WELL AS PROVIDE A SOLID, NOT LEAVING AN AREA OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO SEE YOU. 
          EITHER SIDE. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT, UH, UH, PLANNING A DENSE SHRUB, BUT THAT WHOLE SECTIONS OF THAT WHOLE SECTION OF THE DRIVEWAY, 50 FEET AWAY OR SO, YEP. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE A THREE STORY BUILDING. 
          SO ALL THE BEDROOMS ON THAT SIDE OF THIS SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY WOULD HAVE SOMEONE LIVING, HOW MANY FEET WOULD THAT BE? 20 ON TOP 20, 25 FEET WHEN THEY STAND ON TOP UP THE WINDOWS. 
          SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY WITH A CYPRUS, IF IT'S GROANED, THEN YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH AND SEE THE NEIGHBORS ROOF TOP, OR IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE, WHY WE GOT TO THAT HOUSE, THE HEDGES. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO THE COMMISSION, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU, WHATEVER YOU'D PREFER. 
          UM, BUT OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THE PRIVACY THERE. 
          SO IF THERE'S A SUGGESTION, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY MAKE THAT HOUSE. 
          UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE CYPRESS IS GOING TO BE, UM, 12 FEET TALL WHEN IT'S PLANTED. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S PRETTY A GOOD SIZE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DOUBLE BEHIND THE FEE, YOU KNOW, OF, OF, UH, OF THE WALL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT CAN ACT ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY CAN ACT LIKE A HEDGES, BUT IT PROBABLY TAKES US A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          IT, UH, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED AT 12 FEET SO THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ALRIGHTY, HOW DENSE IS. 
          UM, I'D HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT THE DENSITY ON, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT JUST TALK, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF WE'RE HAVING HEDGES. 
          ULTIMATELY THE CYPRESS CAN BE A HEDGES, BUT IT'S 12 FEET TALL. 
          GOT IT. 
          VERSUS HEDGES THAT YOU WERE A MISSIONARY, UM, WILLIAMS WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          I CAN EVEN COMMISSIONERS PETER  WITH STUDIO, PAT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. 
          UM, SO JUST ALONG THAT SOUTH, WE, WE TYPICALLY, WHEN WE HAVE PARALLEL PARKING WE'LL, WE'LL DO THIS COMBINATION OF THE CYPRESS WITH CANOPY TREES. 
          SO WE GET A COMBINATION OF SCREENING, BUT THEN ALSO SOME SHADE FOR PARKING. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO VERY, VERY OFTEN, AND WE HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT SIX FOOT OF LANDSCAPE BETWEEN THAT FENCE AND THE CURB. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE CYPRUS AND SHRUBS. 
          WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE VINES IN THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PHASE WHEN WE GET THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE VINES GROWING ON THAT FENCE AS WELL TO KIND OF HELP JUST WITH THE VISUAL, THE SCREENING AND WHATNOT. 
          SO THE CYPRESS IS GROUPED GROUPS OF THREE, SO YOU CAN KIND OF MAINTAIN IT INITIALLY. 
          AND THEN AS THEY GROW WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, THE TRISTAN 
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IS THE, TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GET MAINTAINED TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          SO YOU CAN GET THE COMBINATION OF VERTICAL CYPRUS, WHICH GROW TWO TO THREE FEET A YEAR, ONCE THEY'RE ESTABLISHED. 
          SO IF THEY GO IN AT 12, WITHIN TWO YEARS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 16, 17 FEET AND SO ON. 
          AND THE TRISTAN IS ALSO GROWN PRETTY VERTICAL, BUT THEY GIVE YOU THE OPTION TO GET THE CANOPIES A LITTLE FURTHER. 
          SO YOU GET SOME, SOME SHADE OVER THE PARKED CARS, AND THEY'RE BOTH EVERGREEN. 
          I, I HAD A, SORT OF A LARGER OVERARCHING QUESTION THAT, UM, THAT I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN ABOUT. 
          AND THAT'S THE FACT THAT YOU ONLY HAVE 15 GUEST PARKING SPACES, UM, 4 84 UNITS. 
          UM, I HAVE TO SAY, UM, I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN CONCERNED, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT CAMERON AVENUE DOES NOT ALLOW ON STREET PARKING THERE. 
          AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS I, I, AND I LOOKED OVER AT CAMERON 56 AND BASED UPON MY ROUGH ESTIMATION, THERE'S FAR MORE THAN 15 GUEST PARKING SPACES THERE. 
          AND THAT'S 56 UNITS. 
          THIS IS 84, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. 
          I MEAN, I COUNTED PROBABLY ABOUT 30 DIFFERENT SPACES OVER AT CAMERON 56. 
          AND SO I, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR ENDS UP BEING DEVELOPED LIKE THIS. 
          UM, WE'RE SORT OF CREATING A, A, A MAJOR PROBLEM DOWN THE LINE THAT WE'RE SORT OF, WE WOULD BE DEVELOPING OURSELVES INTO WITH NO WAY OUT. 
          AND I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M RETICENT ABOUT THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          UM, I MEAN, 15 SPACES IS JUST, IT'S NOT A LOT. 
          AND ULTIMATELY IF EVERYONE'S GOING TO GO OFF SITE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE A GET TOGETHER, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ONE PERSON. 
          IF ONE PERSON COMES OVER FOR 15 UNITS, YOU'RE CAPPED OUT AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO PARK ANYWHERE NEAR THAT. 
          I MEAN, SO I'M, I I'M CONCERNED. 
          AND I, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HAVE, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT CON CONCERN AND IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY OF, OF FINDING ADDITIONAL PARKING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT? I, I, I, I DO UNDERSTAND PARKING IS TIGHT HERE. 
          UM, IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, IN, IN TERMS OF THE, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BACKSTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT, UM, UH, FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, THE DOWNTOWN PLAN ACTUALLY HAS A ZERO YES. 
          PARKING REQUIREMENT. 
          UM, THE, THE INTENT IS THAT FOLKS WOULD BE, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PARKING THEIR TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING THE BUS THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR MAJOR BUS LINES IN THIS AREA. 
          UM, THERE'S THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UM, AND SO THAT, THAT WAS THE IDEA IS THAT THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, UBERING AND, AND, UM, AND, UH, AND WALKING TO THE MALL. 
          AND, AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERARCHING IDEA OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THERE'S A ZERO GUEST PARKING REQUIREMENT. 
          UM, FOR WEST CAMERON, IT KIND OF WORKED OUT THE WAY THAT THE SITE IS DESIGNED, BECAUSE IT'S JUST KIND OF ONE MAJOR DRIVEWAY. 
          AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE PARALLEL ON JUST THAT ONE KIND OF MAIN DRIVEWAY. 
          I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT 15 OR SO, UM, SPOTS THERE. 
          UM, BUT I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT PARKING IS TIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT I CAN SAY IS, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE HOA, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR, FOR THE VINCENT PROJECT, IN TERMS OF, OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, UM, A PROGRAM IN PLACE A, A PERMIT PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NOT EVERYONE IS JUST PARKING HERE, THAT, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO REGISTER FOR THAT IF THEY'RE, IF THEY ARE PLANNING TO HAVE A SILVER FOR, FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR WHATEVER, UM, THAT FOLKS ARE ABLE TO RESERVE SPOTS AHEAD OF TIME FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          AND, UM, AND SO THAT THE HOA WILL, WILL, WOULD BE MAINTAINING THAT, UM, THAT'S THE CURRENT DESIGN HERE. 
          UM, BUT I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PARKING AND, AND HOW, HOW TIGHT IT IS HERE. 
          I MEAN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT I SAW OVER AT CAMERON 56 AND NEARLY ALL OF THOSE SPACES WERE FULL WHEN I GOT THERE. 
          AND I MEAN, I WENT THERE RIGHT BEFORE I CAME HERE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW YOU ADD 
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EFFECTIVELY 30 MORE UNITS. 
          AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PARKING SITUATION THAT WOULD CLEARLY BE OVERRUN NEXT. 
          I COMPLETELY AGREE. 
          UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, UH, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, WE HAVE LOOKED AT, AT OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE PARKING ON THIS SITE. 
          UM, WE THREW TOGETHER, IT WAS KIND OF A LAST MINUTE THING, BUT WE THREW TOGETHER A COUPLE DESIGN OPTIONS. 
          I'D LIKE TO PASS THEM OUT TO YOU AND SHOW YOU WHAT WE WERE THINKING, UM, AS AN OPTION, POTENTIALLY TO, TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF, OF PARKING HERE. 
          UH, ADD THAT INTO YOUR, UM, UM, QUESTIONS. 
          WHAT ABOUT OPEN SPACE? AND, AND IT KINDA, IT KIND OF RELATES THE, THE SOLUTION HERE KIND OF IS RELATED TO THIS. 
          IF WE COULD JUST PASS THIS OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE NOWADAYS EVERYONE LOVES THEIR PETS AND HAVING THEIR DOGS, THEY NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE TO DO THEIR BUSINESS. 
          CAMERON 56 IS A PRETTY TIGHT, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE ELSE THAT THEY CAN GO. 
          I MEAN, IT'S TOUGH GETTING IN AND OUT OF CAMERON 56. 
          I MEAN, I, LIKE I SAID, I, I, I JUST DID IT AND I SAW SO MANY PEOPLE PARKING IN THE, IN THE GUEST PARKING. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS SURPRISING AND YEAH, I'M ON HERE BE A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN, PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OPTIONS TO, TO TRY TO, UM, ADDRESS, BECAUSE WE, WE ARE AWARE OF THE PARKING IS, IS TIGHT ON THIS SITE. 
          UM, WE PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE. 
          THAT'S THE SURROUNDING STOP AS WELL. 
          UM, UM, IN, IN, SO IN, IN BOTH OPTIONS, WE ARE, UM, WE WOULD LOSE TWO UNITS, SO THIS WOULD BE AN 82 UNIT PROJECT. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND IN THAT CASE, WE COULD, WE COULD OFFER AN ADDITIONAL FIVE PARKING SPACES ON TOP OF THE PROVIDED 15, UM, OR OPTION B AND AN OPTION A THAT WOULD INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL 3,300 SQUARE FOOT AREA FOR, FOR A TOT LOT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, OPTION B IS, UH, SEVEN PARKING SPACES, UM, WHICH GETS YOU TO OVER, YOU KNOW, UH, 0.2, SEVEN GUEST PARKING STALLS PER UNIT, KIND OF B 80 MINUTE OPTION. 
          IT'S A GOOD BOTH FIVE YEARS, SOME CLEATS, I, THIS POINT, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT, WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          AND WE WANTED TO GET THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK ON THIS AND SEE IF, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE JUST, JUST CURIOUS ON THE OPTION, UH, ON THE OPTION B THAT YOU PRESENTED HERE, UM, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE INTENTION OF THIS, OF THIS LITTLE PORTION? IT, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE DRIVEWAY FOR THAT UNIT. 
          IT WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD NOT BE, YEAH, IT ONLY THAT UNIT COULD PARK THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S TWO ADDITIONAL SPACES THAT WERE, THAT WOULD BE LOCATED IN THIS. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO THIS, THIS, BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS ARE LOCATED IN THE SOUTHERN RIGHT CORNER, ADJACENT TO CAMERON 56 ON THAT EDGE. 
          I THINK IT'S RIGHT HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THAT, WHAT IS THAT? THE OPEN SPACE EXISTS, IT'S, IT'S CONVERTING THAT KIND OF LOOP THAT CURVE DRIVEWAY INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, A SMALLER AREA FOR PARKING STALLS AND INDOOR REC SPACE. 
          SO YOU'RE REPLACING THE OPEN SPACE FOR THE POCKET AND LOSING TWO UNITS SO THAT EVERYTHING IS, EVERYTHING IS MOVING UP. 
          THAT'S THE ONE WHICH TO THE ONE, RIGHT AT THE CORNER, UM, ON THE, ON THE BUILDING, ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT ONE, IT'S A 10 FLUX RIGHT NOW, WE'D BE LOSING TWO OF THEM TO GET TO AN EIGHT PLUS. 
          SO IT WOULD BE THIS ONE, THIS ONE, BUT THIS ONE AND THIS ONE, JUST TWO. 
          SO THAT THE THERE'S TWO UNITS IN THE, THE LITTLE, YEAH, THE RIGHT WHERE YOUR FINGERS ARE, THOSE ARE TWO UNITS RIGHT THERE. 
          SO YOU LOSING THESE. 
          SO WE'D BE LOSING THOSE TWO IN OPTION A AND THEN AN OPTION B WE'RE, WE'RE LOSING TWO UNITS, BUT THEY'RE INTERNAL UNITS EITHER WAY, IT'S IT? NO, SORRY. 
          INTERNAL IN THE BUILDING THERE, YOU SEE THE, THE, UM, THE, THE TANDEM, ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THOSE TWO UNITS INSIDE THAT BUILDING, WE'D BE EXACTLY ONE OF THE PAIRS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO WHAT WE'D BE DOING IS GROWING THE AMOUNT OF, OF OPEN IT'S, EITHER OPEN SPACE OR, OR PARKING OR COMBINATION OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO W WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS, UM, FOR THAT AT, UH, I GUESS TOT LOT? W WHAT WOULD THE DIMENSIONS ON THAT BE, UH, UH, DEPTH AND LENGTH? I HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT, UM, SORRY, WE'RE JUST PULLING THAT UP. 
          HONESTLY, WE JUST KIND OF THREW THIS TOGETHER AT THE LAST MINUTE, JUST TO SEE WHAT WE'RE, WE'LL CONFIRM IT. 
          UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT THE, EACH STALL IS NINE FEET WIDE. 
          SO IF THAT HELPS, UM, YOU KNOW, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 
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IT'S A 63, ABOUT 70 DEEP, I GUESS I'M NOT GETTING THIS REGARDING THE OPEN SPACE. 
          ARE YOU REPLACING THE OPEN SPACE FOR PARKING WITH ALSO THE ADDITION OF THE TWO UNIT, WHICH ONLY ONE OF THE UNIT IS FULL POCKET? IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING? SO WE'RE WERE REPLACING IT, BUT THEN ALSO GROWING IT, THE, THE OPEN SPACE. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BY LOSING IT TWO UNITS THAT BUILDINGS SHRINKS, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME, UH, MORE PARKING STALLS FOR OPTION A, AND THEN IT ALL ALSO MAKES THAT OPEN SPACE AREA DEEPER AS WELL. 
          WELL, SO THAT GETS US, BUT THE OPEN SPACE, TO SOME EXTENT IT'S GOING TO BE GONE BECAUSE YOU'RE REPLACING THE, WITH THE PARKING ONLY, ONLY IN, IN, IN OPTION B, UM, IN OPTION B, WHERE WE'RE FILLING THE WHOLE SPACE IN WITH PARKING. 
          SO WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY OPEN SPACE FOR OPTION B, BUT OPTION A, IS IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COMMISSION, IF THEY HAVE A PREFERENCE, IF IT'S MORE PARKING OR IF IT'S A COMBINATION THEREOF, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE A COUPLE OPTIONS. 
          YES. 
          IS THAT ACTUALLY OPEN SPACE? CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS THE EXISTING PROPOSAL IS, IS JUST MAINLY DRIVEWAY. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? THE EXISTING, UM, THE EXISTING DESIGN HAS IT'S ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET. 
          IT'S IT'S, UH, IT'S GOT A BENCH WITH A DOGGY BAG STATION ON SOME SIGNS, SOME SITE LIGHTING AND, AND A TRASHCAN, JUST A NICE AREA FOR, FOR FOLKS TO, TO WALK THEIR DOG, UM, IN BOTH OF THOSE CORNERS, UM, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT 1800 ISH IN EACH CORNER. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, WE CAN, WE CAN DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE AND ADD FAR FIVE PARKING SPACES FOR OPTION A, OR FILL IT IN WITH PARKING, UM, AND, UM, AND TRY TO TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION THERE. 
          SO ON THE CORNERS OF COMMISSIONERS UNDER THE GREEN TREE, THAT'S WHERE THE OPEN SPACE IS CURRENTLY, CORRECT. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT THAT IS WHERE THE OPEN SPACE WOULD BE. 
          SO 4 84 UNITS, HOW MUCH OF A SPACE DO WE HAVE? WELL, THE LITTLE OPEN SPACE, 1800, UM, UH, AS DESIGNED IT'S IT'S 36. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S AROUND 3,600 SQUARE FEET. 
          I'D HAVE TO CONFIRM THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'S, SO IT'S LIKE A ONE UNIT SPOT ONE, BASICALLY A ONE SPACE OF A UNIT FOR THE THAT'S CORRECT. 
          JUST IN THOSE CORNERS. 
          BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE PISTACHIOS, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE, THE TOWNHOME BUILDINGS, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, AND SO, BUT, BUT IN THOSE SPECIFIC CORNERS, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          WELL, IT'S PRETTY TIGHT IS ME. 
          YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS, THIS MODEL, THESE OTHER ONES DON'T REQUIRE A DRIVEWAY. 
          CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO WHY NOT PUT A DIFFERENT MODEL THERE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY, THEN YOU CAN HAVE MORE SPACES? UM, YEAH, I MEAN, WE, WE, WE, WE KIND OF THREW THIS TOGETHER LAST MINUTE, BUT IT, WE, WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T FIT, UH, A UNIT THERE INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF THE TWO, BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE WIDTH OF THE UNITS. 
          IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO DESCRIBE, BUT IT'S IT, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO, TO SWITCH IT OUT FOR, FOR ANOTHER, IT LOOKS LIKE THESE ARE WIDER THAN THE OTHER ONES, A PAIR. 
          SO THE TANDEM UNIT IS, IS PAIRED WITH THE SIDE-BY-SIDE UNIT. 
          UM, SO IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE APPLES TO APPLES, JUST TO BE AT 62 UNITS, THE WIDTH OF THE PAIR ISN'T, THIS IS, IS DEEPER THAN THE TWIN UNITS. 
          IF THAT HELPS, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. 
          I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU MAX OUT EVERY INCH OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, BUT ALSO AT THE EXPENSE OF HOCKING AT THE EXPENSE OF SOME OPEN SPACE. 
          AND I REALLY DO LIKE TO SEE THAT, AND THEN SPORADICALLY, EVEN PARKING IS REALLY TOWARD THE SOUTHERN SIDE. 
          IT'S NOT SPACED OUT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE AREA. 
          SO IN TOWARD THE FRONT AREA, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PARKING. 
          SO ALL THE GUESTS KIND OF HAVE TO PUSH TOWARD THE BACK AREA, STUDENTS. 
          I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PARK, AND I AGREE WITH THE VERY LIMITED SPACE OF 15 AND, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE BEST USE OF THAT 50 FOOT SETBACK. 
          AND, UM, AND, AND FOR US, IT WORKED OUT THAT, THAT THAT WAS THE BEST SPOT FOR PARKING. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT HAVING CONCENTRATED. 
          WELL, THAT WAS THE ONLY 15 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PLACES THAT 
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YOU CAN SPORADICALLY PUT MORE PARKING SPACES, THE, WELL, THE PROJECT. 
          YES. 
          SO WITH THIS, UM, WITH THIS PROPOSED, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR OPTION B, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS, THIS IS PARKED AT 0.27, YES. 
          PARKING STALLS PER UNIT THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE, WHAT THE CITY REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FOR ANY, ANY SITE IN WEST COVINA. 
          UM, SO THE, THAT, THAT RATIO FOR 22 STALLS FOR 80, 82 HOMES, THAT RATIO IS, YOU KNOW, ABOVE WHAT THE CITY REQUIREMENT WOULD BE IN ANY AREA, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, THE USUAL REQUIREMENTS 0.25, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO IF YOU WERE TO, LET'S JUST SAY, UH, GO DOWN TO AB UNITS, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO FIT BOTH DESIGNS THEN IN THE PROJECT? UM, WE, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THAT IF, YOU KNOW, UM, ROSS IS JUST, IT'S JUST REDUCING THE NUMBER OF HOMES, IT'S REDUCING THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT CAN LIVE AND WORK IN THE CITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT HIT TO, TO THE VIABILITY OF THIS PROJECT WILL BE TO LESS THAN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND TH THESE TWO IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE HEARING. 
          WE, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT PARKING IS, IS A CONCERN HERE. 
          THIS THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO, AND I COME UP WITH TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DO LIKE THE PROJECT. 
          HOWEVER, I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH SOME OF THE, HOW IT'S REALLY COMPACTED TO A POINT THAT, UM, SOME OF THE ISSUES RAISED, UM, LIKE, UH, SOME OF THE DOGGY STATIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE WANTS A DOG NOWADAYS OR PET SOMEWHERE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING? IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO YOUR SPACING, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORS SPACING SOMEHOW ALONG THE WAY. 
          BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT'S JUST REALLY TIGHT AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT. 
          UM, THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT. 
          YOU MIGHT WANT, AND YOU CAN WORK IT OUT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE PARKING SPACE OR SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SPACE IT OUT SOMEHOW SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME OF THE OPEN SPACES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR OWN EXISTING COMMUNITY HAD CONCERN, WHICH WE'RE NOT EVEN ADDRESSING IN THIS ISSUES. 
          UM, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT, IT'S BASICALLY THE, THE TRANSIT PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE THERE, AND THAT'S A CONCERN TOO. 
          WE DO BUILDING PROJECTS THAT IS USING THE RESOURCES THAT WE BARELY HAVE IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA. 
          THAT'S REALLY CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE AND, AND ALL THAT, WHEN THE PROBLEM EXISTS, WHEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK INTO IT AND CLOSE IT, MAYBE FIGURE IT OUT HOW YOU CAN PERHAPS EITHER GATED AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING SPACE. 
          UM, SO I'M NOT SURE, BUT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YEAH. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. 
          I THINK THERE, THERE'S SOME CONFLICTING THINGS HERE, SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT MAXIMUM UNITS. 
          I GET THAT. 
          AND I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AT THE SAME TIME. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT LIVES THE HERE ALSO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS WELL. 
          AND THEN WHETHER THIS, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO IMPACT THIS WHOLE AREA? SO THAT, THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, YEAH. 
          AND I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO, SO THERE'S TWO THINGS HERE. 
          SO FOR A GATED COMMUNITY, THIS WOULD BE LESS UNITS. 
          IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD IMPACT THE, THE, THE, UM, THE YIELD IN THIS SITE, EVEN EVEN FURTHER. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALSO THE, THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE CONCERNS, THERE, THERE, THERE ARE SOME, SOME MAJOR DESIGN IMPLICATIONS WITH THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE WITH THE, WITH THIS PROPOSAL, UM, WITH THE, THE OPTION A AND B IS, IS, UM, TRYING TO FIND AREAS WHERE WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, ADD AS AS MANY PARKING STALLS AS, AS, AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, AND, AND, BUT ALSO PROVIDE A BALANCE BETWEEN PARKING AND OPEN SPACE. 
          UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS IF, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, IF, IF, IF, IF THIS AMOUNT OF PARKING ISN'T ADEQUATE, WE WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU AS WELL IN THIS CHAIR, VISCERA AND COMMISSIONERS, PERHAPS AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, IT'D BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION 
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AS A BODY ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION AMONGST THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS. 
          I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, BUT I THINK, UH, SOME AS STATED THAT, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SOMEHOW INTEGRATE GREEN SPACE AND ADDITIONAL PARKING. 
          IT IT'S, IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND YES, WE ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN, AND IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE DO WANT TO INVITE PEOPLE TO WALK AND WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REALITY OF LIVING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. 
          WE, EVERYONE LOVES THEIR CAR. 
          AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED, UM, THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE SELF, BASICALLY BEING ABLE TO SELF SUSTAINING AND NOT DISTURBING TOO MUCH OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE EXACTLY IT'S GOING TO GO WALK ACROSS PARKING KMART TO PARK. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, THE STREET IS JUST, I HAD NO IDEA. 
          SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S BETTER IF HE PLAN IT PROPERLY AT THE BEGINNING AND HAVE A BETTER PLAN, BETTER PARKING SPACE, SOME OPEN SPACE, AND I'M SURE THE DEVELOPER CAN COME UP WITH SOME AREA THAT THEY CAN'T WALK IT OUT. 
          I GET IT. 
          EVERY INCH IS MAX OUT. 
          THIS IS A THREE STORY BUILDING. 
          SOME AREAS ONLY NINE. 
          I CAN'T READ IT. 
          AND IT'S NINE FOOT OR SO FOR THE TANDEM GARAGE. 
          I MEAN, THAT IS A PRETTY, HE'S A PRETTY TIGHT UNIT. 
          SO WE DO SING A COUPLE OF UNITS IN BEING ABLE TO BUILD THE WHOLE PROJECT AND ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, COMMENTS IS JUST NOT, IT'S BASICALLY IT'S BENEFICIALS TO THE PUBLIC AND ALSO TO THE RESIDENT WAS COMING UP. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE THEY NEED MAYBE, UH, MAYBE WE COULD BRING THIS BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. 
          SO YOU GUYS HAVE MORE TURNS DRAWN OR SURE. 
          I DON'T MIND DON'T. 
          WE WANT TO FINISH COMMISSION DISCUSSION REAL. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WHICH I THINK WAS A GOOD POINT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT PHYSICALLY RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU HAVE IS A LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING FOR FLOOR AND DECOR. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY THE BACK OF THAT BUILDING. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL SAFE AND THEY CALL IT EYES ON THE STREET. 
          THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THAT MAY BE PART OF THE CONCERN RAISED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE 56 UNIT DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REALITIES OF THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION AND HOW ELSE TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SAFE. 
          IT WAS EVEN A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT LIGHTING ALONG THAT AREA AS WELL. 
          UM, THERE ARE WAYS THAT IT COULD EASILY INCORPORATE A GATE. 
          YES, IT WOULD MEAN HAVING TO REMOVE UNITS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE SITUATION THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE OTHER SIDE, IF THAT COULD NOT HAVE BENEFITED THEM. 
          SO MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. 
          I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT AND IT'S THE NEXT STORE ALREADY DOES NOT HAVE IT, IT JUST IS NOT GOING TO LOOK UNIFORM AND IT MAY LOOK A LITTLE AWKWARD. 
          I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THE SAFETY. 
          IF I WAS TO LIVE THERE, I WOULD WANT TO GATE, BUT I THINK WITH THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION NEXT DOOR, IT JUST WILL NOT FLOW, BUT I'M AM AWARE OF ANOTHER LOCATION IN A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY WHERE ORIGINALLY WHEN THOSE TOWNHOUSES WERE DEVELOPED AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY OFF OF AZUSA AND COVINA BOULEVARD, THEY DID NOT HAVE A GATE. 
          BUT AS, UM, THAT SECTION OF AZUSA BECAME MORE BUSY, THEY CAME TO THE CITY AND SAID, WE NEED TO HAVE A GATE TO RESTRICT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT ANY LONGER FEEL SICK. 
          AND AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, EVEN THE WAY THAT THIS IS DONE, THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE WAY THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WAS DONE. 
          AND THEY WERE ABLE TO INCORPORATE A GATE AFTER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT IS. 
          AND I, I DO KNOW THAT BASED UPON MY WALKING IN THAT AREA, UH, BACK A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT A LOT OF THOSE RESIDENTS BACK THERE HAD MAJOR CONCERNS THAT THEY'RE THERE, THAT WALL WAS BUILT SO LOW IN THAT BACK AREA. 
          THAT THAT WAS ANOTHER CHRISTIAN ADDRESS. 
          UH, I KNOW WHEN I SPOKE TO RESIDENTS, 
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BUT, UM, IS IT, UH, SORRY, I LIKE TO ALSO ADD REGARDING THE SAFETY OF THE GATE, PERHAPS, MAYBE THE DEVELOPER HAD MENTIONED THAT REALLY IT WAS A TURNAROUND AND THE TURNAROUND YOU NEED 37 FEET OR SO. 
          SO THE TRUCK, I, OKAY. 
          DON'T QUOTE ME. 
          I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S ABOUT 3,740 FEET OR SO THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND AND IT HAS TO HAVE A T CERTAIN WAYS SO THAT THE BIG TRUCK FIRE TRUCK IN PARTICULAR, TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND TURN IT A CERTAIN WAY AND TO GET THEMSELVES OUT OF THERE. 
          SO BASICALLY THEY'RE PROBABLY POTENTIALLY HAVE TO LOSE A COUPLE OF UNITS. 
          I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY THEY PROBABLY KNOW, UM, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GATED, UM, THE GATE HERE. 
          HMM. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY THE FIRE TRUCK CAN'T ONCE THEY COME IN, THEY JUST CAN'T DRIVE IN CIRCLE AND GET OUT. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT, UM, THAT'S UP TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN WORK ON IT, AND, AND IT'S JUST A HUGE CONCERN, IT'S JUST THAT I'LL CITY EVERY DAY. 
          AND IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING INTO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HOMELESS AND THE TRANSIT PEOPLE IN ALL THAT, IT'S CREATING A PROBLEM, DO I HAVE A SOLUTION TO SOLVE IT? NO, BUT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, AT LEAST 84 OR 80 UNITS CAN FEEL SAFE WHEN IT'S GATED AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, JUMPING THE FENCE TO GET IN. 
          AND I, SO, AND I THINK, UH, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SOME COMMON STATE, IF THE, IF THE COMMISSION'S FINE WITH IT, UH, IS APPLICANT ALLOWED TO COME BACK AND, AND STATE HIS, WHATEVER COMMENT HE WANTS TO STATE CHAIR BESERA YOU WERE IT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT. 
          DOES HE HAVE TO, CAN HAVE YES. 
          UH, COMMISSIONERS AARON AGAIN, I, I THINK, UM, ALL UNDERSTANDABLE CONCERNS. 
          I THINK THE THREE THINGS IS PARKING IT'S OPEN SPACE AND IT'S THE GATE, UH, ALL WHICH, UM, JUST BEING INVOLVED WITH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN FROM 2017, LISA WAS, I WAS ADOPTED IN 16. 
          THOSE WERE LITERALLY THE THREE. 
          IF THERE WAS THREE MAJOR THINGS I DOWNTOWN PLAN THAT WERE LIKE NOT WANTED, IT WOULD BE LAST THING THEY WOULD WANT WOULD BE A BUNCH OF GATED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES ALONG CAMERON, THAT'D BE LIKE THE LAST THING, UM, IN TERMS OF OPEN SPACE, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S LITERALLY, THERE'S ZERO REQUIRED OPEN SPACE FOR PUBLIC. 
          UM, WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, AND THEN FOR PARKING THERE'S ZERO GUEST PARKING SPOTS REQUIRED IN THE CURRENT CODE, ADDING A GATE, JUST TALKING JUST, JUST BRIEFLY, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR US WHISPERING BACK THERE. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE, UM, BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE REALLY BIG IMPLICATIONS FOR THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT WE'VE MADE HERE TO BRING THIS PROJECT. 
          WE WERE HERE IN MINIMUM EIGHT UNITS AT THE ENTRY DID TO CREATE THAT THE FA THE PROPER FIRE TO GO WITH WEST COVINA STANDARDS RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THE, LET'S SAY TWO UNITS THAT WE SHOWED, IF WE TOOK ANOTHER TWO UNITS ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND IT'S 12 UNITS WE'RE ALREADY BACK TO, MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST COME IN WITH A ONE HUNT, YOU KNOW, NO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, AND THEN IT'S REALLY A BUY, RIGHT? I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE CREATED A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. 
          THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE TOWN. 
          AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S TESTAMENT THAT IT CAN BE SIX. 
          WE HAD ONE, ONE PERSON COME UP, BUT IT WASN'T LIKE EVERYONE CAME AND SAID, HEY, CAMERA PHYSICS IS THE WORST COMMUNITY EVER. 
          AND THE ONE NEIGHBOR I DO, HONESTLY, THAT WAS A, I THINK THERE WAS A MISUNDER, A DROP OF THE COMMUNICATION. 
          I WILL TALK TO HER AND FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION THEN ALSO STAFF DID, AND THE COMMISSION DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF AMENDING THE DOWNTOWN PLANTS THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN IN, I WOULD JUST HIGHLY, UM, I HOPE THE COMMISSION CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE THREE THINGS WERE REALLY THE THREE MAIN THINGS THAT, THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE. 
          BUT MAYBE YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE THE COMMISSION. 
          NOW, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO CHANGE NOW. 
          AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT I THINK WE COULD GET OVER THE GATE PROBLEM. 
          I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE IN THE PARKING. 
          YES, AARON, I ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION. 
          SO, I MEAN, DON'T TAKE IT THE WRONG WAY. 
          WE LOVE YOUR PROJECT. 
          IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T, BUT IN TERMS OF SAYING BUY RIGHTS, BEING ABLE TO BUILD IN WEST COVINA IS A PRIVILEGE AND IT'S NOT BY RIGHTS BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS, UH, WE'RE DOING A PRECISE PLAN, WHICH IS COMPLETELY CHANGING TO FIT YOUR DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, SOME OF THE AREAS OR THE SIZE SETBACKS AND THE HEIGHTS, AND SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU. 
          I'M JUST SAYING YOU PACK IT SO TIGHT. 
          AND, AND, AND LIKE SAID, I LOVE THE PROJECT. 
          IT'S BEAUTIFUL. 
          AND ALL, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT AFTER YOU'VE FINISHED AND AFTER YOU'RE GONE, THIS IS WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE LEFT WITH A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, BUT WE HAVE ISSUES. 
          SO WOULD YOU LIKE 
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TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WHEN YOU FINISH AND GONE AFTER A YEAR OR SO, OR TWO YEARS OR SO AFTER YOU FINISHED SELLING THE PRODUCT? OH, THE HOME WE LIKE THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, INSTEAD OF CALLING THE POLICE EVERY DAY WE GOT IN HOMELESS ISSUES OR SOME OTHER ISSUES OR FIGHTING OVER PARKING, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE, YOU HAVE CURRENT RESIDENT THAT'S LIVING HERE AND IT'S TELLING US THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH SOME HOMELESS PRODUCTS GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON. 
          AND I THINK EVERY RESIDENT IN WEST COVINA IS DEALING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE, BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER LEWIS, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          JUST WANT TO SEE MAYBE A FEW MORE SPACES IN SOME GREEN AREA, AND THEN YOU HAVE A GREAT PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          I TOTALLY, I UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, AND I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND IN TERMS OF, IF, ARE YOU GUYS LOOKING FOR BOTH SIDES TO BE SIMILAR TO THAT EXHIBIT, TO GO TO 80, THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, TO HAVE A GREEN SPACE LIKE THIS GREEN SPARKS AND PARKING WILL BE BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE IF WE GET AWAY FROM THE GATE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT FOR ME IS JUST SUCH A STARTER. 
          I THINK WE COULD GET OVER TO GEEK IS OBVIOUSLY THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT DOESN'T WANT TO MATCH, I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUES. 
          YEAH. 
          IF, IF SOMEHOW, IF IT WAS A MIRACLE TO MAKE BOTH THESE PICTURES POSSIBLE OR SOMEHOW, UH, OR SOMETHING TO THAT SORT, I MEAN, IF YOU NEED MORE TIME TO TAKE YOUR TIME AND DOING THAT DRAWING, THEN I'LL BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE REMARKABLE IF WE, IF, UH, W WELL THEN I, I MEAN, IF THAT, TO US IS A LOT MORE PALATABLE THAN REDESIGNING THE WHOLE ENTRY. 
          SO IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS AMONG THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON BOTH SIDES, AND THEN WE DROP, UH, THE FOUR UNITS AND MIRROR THAT WORK WITH STAFF AS TO WHAT THE, WELL, DO YOU WANT MORE PARKING? I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY NINE SPACES. 
          CAUSE THAT ONE UNIT WE'LL GET TWO GUEST SPACES IN THEIR DRIVEWAY AS WELL. 
          UM, OR DO YOU WANT THE TOT LOT WITH THE FIVE SPACES OR DO YOU WANT MAYBE A MIXER MATCH ON EACH, EACH SIDE, IF WE COULD GET TO THOSE DETAILS AND THEN WE GO INTO THE ADS, MAYBE OPTION A MAYBE ON BOTH CORNERS, WOULD THAT WORK? JUST DON'T HAVE OPTION A IN FRONT OF ME. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          THAT WOULD CREATE TWO NICE, UM, FAIRLY DECENT SIZED, UM, OPEN SPACE AS MUCH, MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT WE DID AT 56. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT WOULDN'T GET US, WON'T DO THAT. 
          THAT WOULD BRING US WELL OVER THE 0.2, FIVE OR 2.25 PER UNIT, WHICH IS, WOULD BE TWO TO CODE FOR THE REGULAR CITY WHAT'S COMING IN, BUT WOULD, WOULD EXCEED THE DOWNTOWN BLINK CODE. 
          WOULD THAT BE OKAY, MAYBE A TOTAL OF 6 26. 
          HOW MANY WHAT'S UP? HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS GUEST SPOTS WOULD THAT BE TOTAL? IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHICH PLAN YOU WENT WITH. 
          IF WE WENT WITH OPTION A ON BOTH SIDES, I THINK IT'S 26, 26, CORRECT? OPTION 26. 
          WHAT, LIKE, IS IT, UH, 25? YES. 
          25 5 IN THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE 29, RIGHT? SORRY. 
          SO, SO 26 FOR OPTION A AND THEN 20, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY GREEN AREA WITH OPTION B 26 FOR OPTION A 25 FOR OPTION A, BECAUSE IT'S FIVE ON EACH SIDE, EACH SIDE STILL KEEP GREEN AREA ON BOTH SIDES AND PLUS PARKING AND THEN OPTION A OH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          IT'S RIGHT. 
          IT'S IT IS 10, 10 ADDITIONAL CAUSE WE ALREADY HAD ONE THERE, EVEN THOUGH YOU COUNT SIX THERE. 
          SO WHAT'S, SO WHAT ARE THE TOTALS FOR EACH FIVE? JOHANN, LET WE JUST GAIN 10 MORE SPACE. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'D GAIN 10 MORE SPACES WITH OPTION. 
          I, AND WE KEPT THE GREEN AREAS AND YOU GET SO MUCH, YOU DEALT YOU PROBABLY MORE THAN TRUE. 
          I BET YOU THREE X THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE, COMMON GREEN SPACE. 
          COMMON OPEN SPACE. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          GOD ANSWERS OUR QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? JUST LET US KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I HAD SORT OF, UH, UH, SORT OF A COMMENT AND I'M, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY, I WOULD ACTUALLY BE INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION HAS TO SAY ON THIS, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT, THAT WE DECIDED TO GO WITH 
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WITH OPTION A, WHICH HAS THIS SORT OF LITTLE PARKETTE ON EACH SIDE. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER QUESTION FOUR? NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          THANK YOU THOUGH. 
          UM, IN THE EVENT THAT WE TRIED TO GO WITH WITH OPTION A VERSUS AGAIN, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          IN THE EVENT THAT WE DECIDED TO GO WITH OPTION A OVER OPTION B I GUESS MY ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THIS BEING AN OPEN SITE, UM, AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, A PARK AREA KIND OF BACK OFF INTO THE CORNER, I, I I'M CONCERNED WHAT THAT MAY BE INVITING, UM, IN, IN, IN, IN LONG RUN FROM A, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT. 
          UM, FOR, FOR ME, I I'M, I'M MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN THE PARKING CONSIDERATIONS IF THERE'S W IF THERE'S LESS SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO HANG OUT AND FEEL COMFORTABLE. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND WHEN I SAY THAT, UH, THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY WOULD NOT BE RESIDENTS OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THAT MAY BE A BETTER OUTCOME FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT THAN PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I MAY QUITE FRANKLY PREFER HAVING ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE, BUT I, BUT I THINK THAT GIVEN WHERE WE ARE, UM, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE, THE CON THE PUBLIC SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS, THAT WE HAVE THE CONCERNS OVER, OVER, UH, SORT OF INCREASED HOMELESSNESS IN THE AREA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE, WE'RE INVITING MORE OF A PROBLEM BY, BY ADDING THAT IN. 
          AND SO I, I WOULD, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION HAS TO SAY ON, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THEY DO HAVE THAT AS, UM, COMMISSIONER LANG WAS, UH, SAYING THAT THEY HAVE PEOPLE HAVE PETS, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? YOU HAVE TO HAVE PETS. 
          A LOT OF THEM WILL PROBABLY HAVE SMALL CHILDREN. 
          THEY'D WANT TO TAKE THEM THERE. 
          AND WE CAN, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD THAT THEY PUT, UH, EFFICIENT LIGHTING IN THOSE PARK AREAS. 
          OR PERHAPS WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE DO ONE OR THE, OR YOU CAN PUT A GATE AROUND THE LITTLE GREEN AREAS, BUT I THINK THAT AESTHETICALLY WON'T, WOULDN'T PROBABLY GO AT, I THINK THAT THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO THE PROJECT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, UH, IN THE CORRIDOR, UH, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT WORDING, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, UH, TO, UH, BEFORE I READ THE, THE VERBIAGE, BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE IN, IN, IN, IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT, AGREEING TO IT, UH, THAT THE OPTION, A BEING INCLUDED ON BOATS, BOTH SIDES OF THE BACK AREAS ON THE LEFT AND RIPE, AND THAT EFFICIENT LIGHTING BE PLACED THERE. 
          SO, UH, THERE, SO IF PATROL POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO PATROL THE AREA INSIDE THERE, THEY COULD SEE CLEARLY, I'LL ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT WE PUT, UM, EFFICIENT LIGHTING THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE TO SHUT OFF THEIR LIGHTS. 
          THERE THERE'S A PATHWAY WA UH, HALF THE WAY LIGHTING, UH, ASSESSABILITY, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY, BUT SPECIFICALLY ON CAMERON AVENUE. 
          AND THAT WE, UH, IN ACCORDANCE TO THE GENERAL PANEL NUMBER TWO, ZERO DASH ZERO FOUR, PRECISE PLAN NUMBER TWO, ZERO DASH ZERO NINE, AND TITS TENSOR TRACK MAP NUMBER 8 3 2 1 6 AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT NUMBER TWO, ONE DASH ZERO THREE, AND THE MIND TO MIND TO GRADE IT NEGATIVE DECORATION OF VINYL IMPACT, UH, WITH, UH, VER WITH, UH, ADDITIONAL REVERSION,  SORRY, REVISIONS, UH, THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS TO RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE ADDITIONS, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ HAS RAISED, OKAY. 
          I'M RUNNING TO A MINUTE TO ADD, WAS THAT WITH OPTION A OR OPTION B? UH, I THINK IT WAS OPTION A OPTION, A OKAY. 
          IF, IF, IF I, IF I COULD, UM, PROPOSE, UH, A FEW ADDITIONS, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, 
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UH, THAT, THAT, THAT THE WALL THAT GOES AROUND THE PERIMETER A AT AT LEAST A SIX AND A HALF FOOT TALL, UM, UM, CINDER BLOCK WALL. 
          UM, AND, AND IF YOU CAN DO THE, THE, UM, I ALWAYS FORGET THE, IS IT THE, THE, THE SPLIT FACE IF MEMORY SERVES ME, RIGHT? YES. 
          AND THEN, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO PROPOSE, WE ADD, UH, LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE, UH, YOUR TREES, UM, TO THE CCNRS, UM, REQUIRING THAT THEY BE MAINTAINED SUCH THAT THEY DO NOT ENCROACH UPON THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, UH, IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE PREMISES. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO, UM, ADD IN, UM, A, UH, I THINK THIS WAS PROPOSED, I'M NOT ENTIRELY CERTAIN, BUT A CCNR REGARDING A NOISE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE. 
          UM, ANY CHANGES TO THE CCNRS IN THAT REGARD WOULD REQUIRE, UM, CONSENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF WEST COVINA. 
          AND THEN, UM, I, I, I HAD MENTIONED THIS WITH REGARD TO, UH, CONCERNS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OVER AT THE VINCENT PROJECT. 
          AND, UH, AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, BE RATHER CONSISTENT AND THAT'S, UM, UM, WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE, OF SECURITY CAMERAS AND, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO, IF YOU GUYS DID A PARTNERSHIP WITH RING OR SOME, SOME OTHER ENTITY THAT ALLOWED FOR THAT IN THE PROPERTY TO, TO, UH, TO, TO SORT OF SATIATE CONCERNS ABOUT, ABOUT SECURITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY THERE. 
          AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BE HELPFUL, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, UH, ALLOW THE CCNRS, UM, OR HAVE THE CCNRS SET FORTH DESIGNATED LOCATIONS ON THE PREMISES WHERE RESIDENTS CAN PLACE SECURITY CAMERAS AND POTENTIALLY HOOKUPS FOR THOSE, UM, THINK, OH, AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE, THE, THE REAR WHINING, UM, I, THIS IS JUST A PERSONAL PREFERENCE OF MINE. 
          UH, FRANKLY, BRIAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD PREFER PUT A CARPET OVERSIGHT BRUHS UM, I JUST THINK IT'S CLEANER. 
          UM, AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH CYPRESS TREES, THEY, THEY TEND TO BE, UH, UH, FILLED WITH SQUIRRELS, RATS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, PARTICULARLY AFTER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND, UH, THEY'RE KIND OF A MAINTENANCE HEADACHE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE ON THE BACKSIDE. 
          UM, SO I, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD MAKE THAT MY, MY, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE, UH, COMMISSIONER LOUIS'S COMMENTS, UH, PART OF MY MOTION AND, UH, ALSO, UH, INCLUDE THE NO PARKING, NO PARKING SIGN BE POSTED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY, UH, TO ENSURE NO CARS ARE PARKED IN FRONT OF GARAGES AND THAT THEY, UM, UH, UH, UM, I THINK IT WAS ALREADY INCLUDED, BUT TO INCLUDE A PERMIT PARKING PERMIT, A PROC, SORRY, PERMIT PROC, SORRY, PERMIT PARKING PLAN, AND ALSO, UH, ENACT SOME SORT OF, UH, ENFORCEMENT WITH A LOCAL TOURING COMPANY. 
          BUT, UH, YES. 
          SO THAT'S, I MOTION I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ALENA NEW POLL THE COMMISSION. 
          UH, LET ME SEE IF I GOT ALL OF THIS, THE MOTION, IT'S A MOTION TO DO OPTION A ON BOTH SIDES IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WITH SUFFICIENT LIGHTING, UM, AND THEN TO HAVE PATHWAY LIGHTING SPECIFICALLY ALONG CAMERON, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE SITE. 
          UM, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE PARK AREAS, CORRECT? YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, THE WALL ALONG THE PERIMETER, UM, TO BE SIX AND A HALF, BUT, UH, CEDAR BLOCK FALL, UM, WITH SPLIT FACE, UM, UH, LANGUAGE IN THE CCNRS TO MAINTAIN THE TREES ALONG THE REAR, UM, PROPERTY LINE SO THAT THE MAINTENANCE IS SO THAT THEY DON'T OVERGROW INTO THE BACKYARD NEIGHBORS, UM, CCNRS TO INCLUDE NOISE RESTRICTIONS, UH, TO BE COMPLIANT, I BELIEVE WITH THE CITY CODE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S 10 TO 8:00 AM IF MEMORY SERVES ME. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALLOWANCE OF, UH, FOR SECURITY CAMERAS. 
          UM, 
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AND THEN YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THE TREE ALONG THE REAR FROM CYPRUS TO ORDER CARPUS, UM, AND THEN TO HAVE NO PARKING SIGNS BE POSTED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY AND THEN PER PERMIT, A PERMIT PARKING PLAN, UM, AND HAVE IT IN FORCE, UH, ENFORCEMENT POLICY WITH REGARDS TO TOWING AND JUST FOR THE CAMERAS TO CREEK, UH, FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO CREATE GUIDELINES, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A HOMEOWNER LOOKING AT SOMEONE ELSE SIDELINE WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT JANE. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'LL SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE OCEAN BEGGAR TERRACE IS SECOND BY LOUIS, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, COMMISSIONER HANG I, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR LEWIS. 
          I TEAR UP A SARAH. 
          I KNOW SHAN PASSES BY THOUGH. 
          NO ACTION ON THIS MATTER WILL TAKE PLACE AT A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON A DATE TO BE DETERMINED. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. 
          THERE ARE NO NON-HEARING ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA. 
          SO WE WILL GO TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS, AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. THIS IS A TIME WHEN ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY BRING A MATTER TO THE ATTENTION OF THE FULL COMMISSION THAT IS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE DUTIES ASSIGNED TO THE COMMISSION. 
          ANY ITEM THAT WAS CONSIDERED DURING THE AGENDA IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR DISCUSSION IN THIS SECTION OF THE AGENDA. 
          NO COMMISSION DISCUSSION OR ACTION CAN BE CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME. 
          IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES TO DISCUSS AN ISSUE RAISED BY A SPEAKER OR TAKE ACTION, THE COMMISSION MAY VOTE TO AGENDIZE THE MATTER FOR FUTURE MEETING ANY OF THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS, LIKE TO MAKE A REPORT OR A COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          [3. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT:]
SO THEN WE MOVED TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, PAULINA, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION? UM, GOOD EVENING. 
          YES. 
          UH, CHAIR, THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS I WANTED TO UPDATE THE COMMISSIONERS ON, UM, WITH THE REOPENING OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. 
          UM, THE CITY IS OPENING UP OUR FACILITIES AND GETTING BACK TO, UM, PROVIDING OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES, PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, JULY 3RD, WE ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING OUR SPORTS PLEX AND INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION AT THE SPORTSPLEX FACILITY. 
          UM, IT IS FROM 4:00 PM TO 9:00 PM. 
          IT'S, UH, THE EVENT WILL INCLUDE A FAMILY FUN ZONE, LIVE MUSIC BY THE SMOKING COBRAS ASSIST, CELEBRITY SOFTBALL GAME WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, AND YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN AND PLAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO IN THE SOFTBALL GAME. 
          UM, AND FOOD WILL BE PROVIDED BY, UH, FOOD TRUCK VENDORS. 
          AND WE'RE ALSO HAVING EL CHOLO RESTAURANT PROVIDE FOOD AND DRINKS AT THE EVENT. 
          UM, UH, SO THAT WILL BE SATURDAY, JULY 3RD AT THE SPORTSPLEX. 
          UM, IN OBSERVANCE OF THE 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY, UM, CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED ON JULY 5TH, UH, THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY. 
          UM, AND ALSO WE ARE BRINGING BACK OUR SUMMER CONCERT SERIES. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE WILL START JULY 3RD WITH SMOKING COBRAS. 
          UM, THE, UH, THE SUMMER CONCERT SERIES, IT'S EACH SATURDAY OF, UH, JULY HERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER. 
          UM, SATURDAY EVENINGS, UH, THE LINEUP IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE. 
          AND THEN I FORGOT TO MENTION FOR THE JULY 3RD EVENT, UM, IT PRE-REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED TO, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO ON, UM, ON TO THE CITY WEBSITE, WWW WEST COVINA.ORG, AND IT'LL GUIDE YOU HOW TO REGISTER FOR THE EVENT. 
          UM, AND THE LINEUP FOR THE SUMMER CONCERT SERIES IS ALSO ONLINE. 
          AND THEN FOR ANY UPDATES ABOUT, UM, AS WE OPEN UP AND WE BRING BACK, UM, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, UH, YOU CAN FOLLOW US ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AT WEST CA AT CITY OF WEST COVINA OR, UM, ON OUR CITY WEBSITE UPDATES. 
          AND I, THAT CONCLUDES, UM, AN UPDATE. 
          THERE'S NO CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS PERTAINING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REPORT ANY WORD ON WHEN WE'LL, UH, BRING BACK FIREWORKS TO THE 4TH OF JULY. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THE BUDGET COMES BACK. 
          SO AT THIS TIME NOW, SINCE THERE IS NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO CONSIDER THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 9:13 PM. 
          THANK YOU.
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