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          GOOD 
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EVENING, EVERYONE WELCOMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS OF MAY 25TH, 2021. 
          UM, TONIGHT WE HAVE, UM, LET ME SEE, GOT A FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS WE'RE STILL IN THE COVID STAGE. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS WE JUST FOLLOW THROUGH THE PROTOCOLS ONCE WHO CAN NOT MAKE IT, WE CAN STILL DO YOUTUBE, UM, OR OVER THE PHONE CONFERENCE. 
          UM, PLEASE CALL IN BEFORE CERTAIN TIMES OR EMAILED IN AND, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION. 
          ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA OR ON ANY OTHER MATTER WITHIN JURISDICTION IS ASKED TO COMPLETE IS A SPEAKER CARD THAT IS PROVIDED AND THE SPEAKER PODIUM, AND SUBMIT THE CARTEL PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF. 
          THESE IDENTIFY ON THE SPEAKER, AND WHETHER YOU ARE SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA ITEMS OR NON AGENDA ITEM REQUEST TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE HEARD DOING ORAL COMMUNICATION BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTIONS OF THE AGENDA ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ARE LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. 
          GENERALLY COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, UNLESS FURTHER TIME IS GRANTED BY THE CHAIRPERSON THAT YOU'RE A PERSON MAY ALSO ADD HIS OR HER DISCRETION FURTHER LIMIT THE TIME OF EACH SPEAKING IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. 
          AND TO ENSURE THAT THE BUSINESS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS EFFECTIVELY CONDUCTED ANY TESTIMONY OR COMMENTS REGARDING A MADISON FOR PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HEARD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT ITEM. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY, UM, PRAYER MEDITATION, AND THEN, UM, COMMISSION GUTIERREZ WILL LEAD, UH, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          WE HAVE A WHOLE CALL. 
          HOLD ON, PLEASE JOIN, UM, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ FOR A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PLEASE PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND READY BEGIN. 
          WHEN DID YOU LEAVE THE UNITED STATES PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PAULINA. 
          CAN YOU PLEASE HAS, UM,  AH, YES. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER LEWIS, RESIN COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, PRESENT COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER PROCERA, UH, CHAIR, HANG HERE. 
          UM, 
          [1. Regular meeting, April 13, 2021]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF APRIL 13, 2021? YOU HAVE ANY CHANGE HEARING? NONE. 
          THE MINUTES OF APRIL 13, 2021 ARE APPROVED, JUST SUBMITTED ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OR COMMUNICATIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          TONIGHT 
          [2. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 20-02]
WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA. 
          JOANNE, WHO WILL BE PRESENTED THE FIRST STAFF MEETING OUR CONTRACT PLANNER. 
          JEFF HAMILTON WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TONIGHT BEFORE YOU HIS PROPOSAL FOR A PROJECT AT 10 24 WORKMAN AVENUE. 
          THIS IS THE FORMER VINCENT CHILDREN'S CENTER SITE. 
          THIS IS A PROPOSED PRECISE PLAN, TENTATIVE TRACK MAP, ZONE CHANGE, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND TREE REMOVAL. 
          OH, THERE'S ALSO, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT, THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT IN ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT AND MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN PREPARED AND A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COMPANY THAT'S PREPARED THAT IS HERE TO ANSWER AND PRESENT ON THAT TOPIC. 
          THE PROJECT IS LOCATED, UH, ON A EIGHT ACRE SITE BOUNDED BY WORKMAN AVENUE ON THE NORTH VINCENT AVENUE ON THE EAST AND A PORTION OF GARVEY AVENUE AT THE SOUTHEAST. 
          UH, THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF 119 TOTAL DWELLING UNITS. 
          EACH UNIT HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE. 
          THERE ARE 47, TWO STORY DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, PRIMARILY ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THERE ARE ALSO 72 ATTACHED THREE STORY TOWN HOMES IN A TOTAL OF, UM, OH, WELL, SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE 
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AND ALONG VINCENT AND GARVEY AVENUES. 
          UH, AT THE VERY CENTER OF THE SITE, THERE IS A LARGE COMMON OPEN SPACE WITH RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND ANOTHER SMALLER OPEN SPACE AREA AT THE JUNCTION OF, UH, VINCENT AND GARVEY AVENUE. 
          THE PROJECT HAS 26 PARKING SPACES ABOVE THE CODE REQUIREMENT. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THE COMMON OPEN SPACE, UH, TOTALS OVER 25,000 SQUARE FEET ARE LANDSCAPED BUFFERS ALONG THE WESTERLY AND SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINES. 
          AND THERE ARE WALL AND FENCING DETAILS, WHICH WE CAN GET INTO, UH, ALONG THE WESTERLY AND SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINES IN PARTICULAR IS GOING TO BE A NEW BLOCK WALL ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE. 
          THIS, THIS MAP THAT'S BEFORE YOU ALSO SHOWS SORT OF REPRESENTATIVE SETBACKS AND DISTANCES. 
          THE PRIMARY DRIVE AISLE THAT SERVES THE PROPERTY, UM, IS GENERALLY 26 FEET WIDE. 
          THERE ARE SMALLER ACCESS ISLES THAT SERVE THE MULTIFAMILY NEAR THE SOUTH PART OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT DRIVE AISLE IS 24 FEET WIDE AND THEN INDIVIDUAL SORT OF LANES THAT SERVE THE DETACHED HOMES ARE 20 FEET WIDE. 
          THEY'RE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE SITE IS OFF OF WORKMAN AVENUE. 
          THERE'S A SECONDARY ENTRANCE OFF OF GARVEY AVENUE. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY A 2120 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE DETACHED RESIDENCES TO THE EXISTING HOMES TO THE WEST. 
          THIS SETBACK VARIES SOMEWHAT. 
          THE MINIMUM SETBACK IS 21 FEET AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE MINIMUM SETBACK IS 29 FEET. 
          AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THE MINIMUM SETBACK IS 10 FEET. 
          THIS IS 10 FEET FROM THE SORT OF THE FRONT PORCHES OF THE, OF THE DETACHED HOMES OUT TO WORKMAN AVENUE. 
          ALONG VINCENT AVENUE, THE HOMES ARE PUSHED MUCH CLOSER TO THE STREET. 
          THERE'S A MINIMUM OF THREE FOOT TO 3.2 FOOT SETBACK ALONG ALONG VINCENT AVENUE. 
          THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING CONDITION WITH THE, UH, FORMER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          NOW THE VINCENT CHILDREN'S CENTER ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE LARGE PLAYGROUND TO THE SOUTH SHOWS THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. 
          SOME, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE SOUTH. 
          THERE ARE OTHER EXISTING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ACROSS THE VINCENT AVENUE TO THE EAST. 
          THERE ARE SOME SMALL COMMERCIAL OFF FUNCTIONS TO THE SOUTHEAST. 
          THE PHOTOGRAPHS ON THE SLIDE SHOW, A COUPLE OF VIEWS OF THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CHILDREN'S CENTER FACING WORKMAN AVENUE. 
          IN THIS VIEW, WE'RE SEEING, UH, WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE FROM VINCENT AVENUE ON ABOVE AND FROM THE SMALL PORTION OF GARVEY AVENUE ON THE LOWER IMAGE, THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF AERIAL VIEW, UH, THAT SHOWS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, UH, THE EXISTING CONFIGURATION OF THE SITE, UH, THE ENTIRE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND SITE WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND, AND TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THE, ALL THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, THE PARKING LANDSCAPING WILL ALL BE REMOVED AS PART OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST OF THE SITE ARE SHOWN THERE'S EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST TO THE WEST OF THE SITE. 
          AS I MENTIONED, AND TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, THERE ARE APARTMENTS, AS I MENTIONED TO THE SOUTH, THE CURRENTLY, UH, BUT THE, UH, PLAYGROUND AREA AND THE TOWNHOMES ARE ALSO TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE. 
          THIS IMAGE SHOWS THE DETACHED, UH, WORKMAN AVENUE STREET SCENE, UH, AND THEN BELOW THAT SHOWS THE COMBINATION OF THE DETACHED HOMES TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE ATTACHED, UH, TOWNHOME BUILDINGS TOWARDS THE SOUTH. 
          AND THIS IS, WHAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM THE VINCENT AVENUE FRONTAGE, UH, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE SITE, OH, THAT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          I, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN HAS OVER 200 NEW TREES THAT WILL BE INSTALLED. 
          UH, ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 24 TO 36 INCH BOX SIZE. 
          THIS INCLUDES 14 CALIFORNIA SYCAMORES FOR OLIVE 13 MAGNOLIAS AND 42 BRISBANE BOX STREET TREES. 
          THESE TREES ARE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE SITE THERE, IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, AN ENHANCEMENT SORT OF PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT AND AGREED TO, WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT A DENSE SCREEN OF POTEAU CARPUS TREES WILL BE PLANTED ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE TO PROVIDE, UH, UH, AN EFFECTIVE VISUAL BARRIER BETWEEN THE NEW PROJECT AND THE EXISTING HOMES. 
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THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME OF THE SITES SECTIONS ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE. 
          THIS SHOWS THAT THE SITE IS ELEVATED IN RELATION TO THE HOMES TO THE WEST. 
          UH, IT'S RAISED A BIT. 
          AND SO, UH, AS A CONSEQUENCE THERE, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SERIES OF TWO, WELL, A, A WALL AND A FENCE. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW BLOCK WALL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLOPE, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LINE, THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE IN SET FROM THAT ON THE PROJECT SITE, THERE'LL BE AT THE TOP OF THE SLOPE WILL BE A VINYL FENCE THAT BASICALLY SERVES AS FENCE FOR THE BACKYARDS OF THE DETACHED HOMES. 
          UH, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE NEW HOMES VARIES A LITTLE BIT, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BLOCK WALL AND THE FENCE IS GENERALLY ABOUT 14 FEET. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE, AND ALONG THAT LINE IS NEAR THE BLOCK WALLS WHERE THE POTEAU CARPETS WILL BE PLANTED. 
          IN ADDITION, THERE WILL BE A VARIETY OF TREES PLANTED ON THAT SLOPE. 
          THE SLOPE IS PART OF THE, A COMMON AREA LOT THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IN PERPETUITY. 
          THIS SHOWS ANOTHER SECTION A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          IT SHOWS A REPRESENTATIVE POTEAU, CARPUS THE BLOCK WALL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLOPE. 
          AND THEN THE VINYL FENCE UP AT THE TOP OF THE SLOPE IN THIS LOCATION, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM BETWEEN THE BLOCK WALL AND THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE REAR OF THE DETACHED HOME TO THE, JUST TO THE EAST. 
          IT'S ALSO WORTH POINTING OUT THAT IN ORDER TO SORT OF PRESERVE OR ENHANCE THE PRIVACY OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS, THE UPSTAIRS WINDOWS OF ALL THE DETACHED ROOMS THAT FACE WEST WILL, THOSE WINDOWS WILL BE FROSTED GLASS. 
          THEY WON'T BE, WILL NOT BE TRANS WON'T BE CLEAR GLASS. 
          SO THAT WILL ALLOW LIGHT TO COME IN AND, AND, AND, AND HELP THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEW OF THE NEW STRUCTURES. 
          BUT WE'LL PRESERVE THE PRIVACY TO A SIGNIFICANT EXTENT OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. 
          THE DETACHED HOMES COME IN, UH, FOUR FLOOR PLANS, THREE ARCHITECTURAL SORT OF TREATMENTS, AND THREE COLOR SCHEMES PLAN. 
          ONE ARE THESE DETACHED UNITS THAT, UM, SHOW, AND THEY THEY'RE BASICALLY USING THESE, THESE TERMS, SANTA BARBARA, COASTAL, AND FARMHOUSE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THEIR STYLES. 
          EACH HAS A TWO STORY STRUCTURE, OF COURSE, UM, WITH TWO CAR GARAGE, THE FLOOR PLAN SHOWS THAT THERE'S A TWO CAR GARAGE BELOW ENTRY, AND THEN BEHIND THE GARAGE IS THE LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN AREA UPSTAIRS. 
          YOU HAVE THE BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS PLAN. 
          ONE IS THE SMALLEST 1,465 SQUARE FEET, THREE BEDROOMS, TWO AND A HALF BATH. 
          AS I MENTIONED, A TWO CAR GARAGE, AND IT WILL HAVE EACH OF THE DETACHED UNITS HAS A MINIMUM OF 390 SQUARE FEET OF PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. 
          MOSTLY USUALLY GENERALLY TO THE, TO THE REAR OF THE UNIT. 
          IN SOME CASES, THE BIGGEST AREA IS ACTUALLY SORT OF A SIDE YARD ENDS ON THE CONFIGURATION ORIENTATION OF THE PARTICULAR LOT PLAN TO, UH, AGAIN, SANTA BARBARA, COASTAL, AND FARMHOUSE, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TREATMENT OF THE, OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOME. 
          A LITTLE BIT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FINISHES PLAN THREE SHOWS AGAIN, THE THREE STYLES. 
          UM, THEY, AND IN SOME OF THESE STYLES, THEY'VE INCORPORATED SOME STONE AT THE BASE OF THE, OF THE STRUCTURE AND IN THE SANTA BARBARA STYLE, THEY'VE USED ARCHED WINDOWS AND, UH, AND A LITTLE BIT OF IRON WORK TO SORT OF ENHANCE THE APPEARANCE, UH, AS A, AS A SANTA BARBARA OR SORT OF A MISSION STYLE, UH, HOME PLANS, TWO AND THREE BASICALLY ARE THE SAME FLOOR PLAN. 
          THEY'RE JUST FLIPPED, UM, 1,955 SQUARE FEET, FOUR BEDROOMS, AND THREE BATHS, TWO CAR GARAGE, AGAIN, THE 390 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM ON THE GROUND FOR YOU HAVE THE TWO CAR GARAGE, A SMALL PORCH, ONE BEDROOM BATH LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, AND KITCHEN UPSTAIRS. 
          YOU HAVE THREE MORE BEDROOMS AND AN OPTIONAL SPACE THAT CAN EITHER BE A BEDROOM OR A LOFT AREA. 
          PLUS BATHROOMS PLAN FOR SANTA BARBARA, COASTAL AND FARMHOUSE. 
          THIS IS THE LARGEST PLAN, UH, CONTINUES THE SORT OF THEMES WITH, UH, SOME STONE AT THE BASE, SOME SIDING ON PORTIONS OF THE UPSTAIRS AND IN THE SANTA BARBARA STYLE, SOME ARCHED WINDOW TREATMENTS, AND A LITTLE BIT OF IRON WORK. 
          THIS PLANT FLOOR PLAN IS 2,125 SQUARE FEET, FOUR BEDROOMS, THREE BATHS AS A TWO CAR GARAGE, AND THEN THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. 
          IT HAS A GARAGE, ONE BEDROOM AND BATH LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN UPSTAIRS. 
          WE HAVE 
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THREE BEDROOMS AND BATHS. 
          THIS SUMMARIZE, THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE DETAILS OF THESE PLANS AS, AS I'VE ALREADY ARTICULATED. 
          UH, EACH OF THE TWO CAR GARAGE IS AT LEAST 400 SQUARE FEET. 
          THERE'S A 35 TO 71 SQUARE FOOT ENTRY PORCH AND VESTIBULE. 
          NOW THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ATTACHED BUILDING STYLES. 
          THERE ARE TWO STYLES, THERE'S A SIX UNIT STYLE, WHICH IS THE TWO IMAGES ON THE UPPER PORTION OF THE SLIDE. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A 10 UNIT STYLE. 
          THE 10 UNIT BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED OUT NEAR VINCENT AND THE SIX UNIT BUILDINGS ARE MORE INTERIOR TO THE SITE. 
          AND SO THE SOUTH PART OF THE SITE, THE BUILDING IS THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. 
          IT HAS TWO COLOR TREATMENTS, A SORT OF MORE, MORE GRAY TREATMENT, AND THEN A MORE BROWN AND GREEN TREATMENT COLOR SCHEME, ONE AND TWO. 
          THIS HAS SOME OF THE SAME DETAILING AS THE DETACHED HOMES WITH A STUCCO SIDING, UH, STONE WORK, UH, NEAR THE BASIS. 
          SOME, UM, UH, SOME WOOD SIDING OR PLANK SITE SIDING AND, AND, UH, TREATMENTS IN SOME OF THE GABLE ENDS ON THE FIRST FLOOR YOU SEE ON THE SIX UNIT BUILDINGS, THERE ARE TWO FLOOR PLANS, THE PLAN TWO, AND THE PLAN THREE, THE PLAN TWO IS, ARE THE SORT OF BLUE AND THE PLAN THREE ARE THE TAN. 
          UM, SO IN THE PLAN TO, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TANDEM PARKING SPACES STILL CAN GET TWO CARS IN THERE, BUT THEY WOULD BE TANDEM RATHER THAN SIDE-BY-SIDE IN PLAN THREE. 
          THE, THE CARS ARE TRADITIONALLY CONFIGURED. 
          THERE'S A PORCH AND ENTRY VESTIBULE STORAGE AREA, UH, ON THE PLAN TOO. 
          AND THEN THE PARKING ON THE PLAN THREE, YOU GOT A SMALL PORCH ENTRY AREA, A, A FLEX ROOM WHICH SERVES AS PROBABLY A SMALL OFFICE, OR COULD CONCEIVABLY BE, I GUESS, UM, PERHAPS ANOTHER BEDROOM THE ARCHITECT CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          AND THEN THERE'S STORAGE FOR THE UNITS. 
          UH, ON THE SECOND FLOOR, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER, YOU GOT A BALCONY OR DECK FOR EACH OF THE UNITS, LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN ON THE PLAN TWO, YOU'VE GOT A BEDROOM AND A BATHROOM. 
          AND ON THE PLAN THREE, YOU'VE GOT BEDROOM BATHROOM AND A FLEX SPACE AND OFFICE SPACE. 
          AND ON THE THIRD FLOOR ON PLAN TWO, YOU'VE GOT A BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOMS AND TWO BATHROOMS. AND THE LAUNDRY ROOM, SAME FOR PLAN THREE, TWO BEDROOMS, TWO BATHROOMS PLAN TWO IS 1,505 SQUARE FEET, 460 SQUARE FOOT, TWO CAR TANDEM GARAGE, 35 SQUARE FOOT PORCH ENTRY AREA, AND 400 SQUARE FEET OR MORE OF STORAGE AT THE GROUND FLOOR UPSTAIRS. 
          YOU HAVE THE LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN BATHROOM, 107 SQUARE FOOT DECK. 
          AND ON THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU'VE GOT TWO BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS, AND A LAUNDRY ROOM AND PLAN THREE IT'S 1,822 SQUARE FEET, JUST OVER 400 SQUARE FOOT, TWO CAR GARAGE, 107 SQUARE FOOT PORCH OR BALCONY. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S ON THE FIRST FLOOR PORCH ON THE FRONT, ON THE GROUND FLOOR, FLEX ROOM, AND THEN 210 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, BEDROOM, BATHROOM, THE OFFICE SPACE, AND 107 SQUARE FOOT DECK, JUST LIKE IN PLAN TWO, TWO BEDROOMS, TWO BATHROOMS, AND A LAUNDRY ROOM ON THE THIRD FLOOR. 
          THIS SHOWS ANOTHER VERSION OF A SIXPLEX BUILDING WHERE YOU'VE GOT A PLAN ONE INCLUDED AT THE END OF THE BUILDING. 
          SO THIS IS A RECTANGULAR UNIT, UH, ALMOST SQUARE ON THE GROUND FOR YOU'VE GOT THE TWO CAR GARAGE STORAGE ENTRY PLAN TWO, AND PLAN THREE ARE THE SAME AS IN THE OTHER VERSION OF THE SIX STORY. 
          UH, THE SIX UNIT BUILDING ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WE'VE GOT MORE LIVING SPACE FOR THE PLAN ONE. 
          AND ON THE THIRD FLOOR, WE'VE GOT LIVING BEDROOMS AND BATHROOM SPACE. 
          THIS SHOWS THE FLOOR PLAN FIRST FLOOR PLAN OF THE 10 UNIT BUILDING, SAME FLOOR PLANS FOR THE PLAN ONE, PLAN TWO AND PLAN THREE UNITS, SAME FLOOR PLANS FOR THE SECOND FLOOR. 
          AND THE THIRD FLOOR PLAN ONE 1,214 SQUARE FEET, TWO CAR, UH, 416 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE, SMALL PORCH ENTRY, VESTIBULE, AND FOUR TO 500 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE, UH, CUBIC FEET, REALLY OF STORAGE, UM, ON THE SECOND FLOOR LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, SMALL POWDER ROOM AND 82 SQUARE FOOT DECK AND TWO BEDROOMS 
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AND A BATHROOM AND A LAUNDRY ROOM ON THE UPSTAIRS FOR THE PLAN ONE ON PLAN TWO. 
          IT'S THE SAME AS IN THE S AS IN THE SIX UNIT BUILDINGS, 1,505 SQUARE FEET TO TWO CAR TANDEM GARAGE, A SMALL PORCH STORAGE AREA ON THE SECOND FLOOR, LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, A HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT BALCONY, AND THEN BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS, AND LAUNDRY ROOM ON THE THIRD FLOOR ON PLAN THREE, 1,822 SQUARE FEET, TWO CAR GARAGE, 107 SQUARE FOOT ENTRY PORCH, JAREN, 10 CUBIC FEET OF STORAGE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, 107 SQUARE FOOT BALCONY OR DECK. 
          AND THEN ON THE THIRD FLOOR BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS AND LAUNDRY ROOM. 
          THIS SLIDE SHOWS ARCHITECTURAL ARTISTIC RENDERINGS. 
          THESE ARE NOT OBVIOUSLY PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT THESE ARE A HIGHLY ACCURATE RENDERING SHOWING ON. 
          THE ONE IMAGE AT TOP IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF WORKMAN AVENUE, BUT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH DETACHED HOMES, FLANKING THE MAIN ENTRYWAY, THE IMAGE BELOW THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE INTERIOR COURTYARD AND A PLAYGROUND AMENITIES SPACE ON INTERIOR TO THE SITE ON THIS IMAGE, WE'RE SEEING A SORT OF BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE SITE, UH, ON THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER, LOOKING EAST OR SOUTHEAST ACROSS WITH THE DETACHED HOMES IN THE FOREGROUND AND THE ATTACHED HOMES IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          BOTTOM LEFT IN THIS SLIDE, WE'RE SEEING THE F WHAT THE PROJECT LOOKED LIKE ALONG THE VINCENT AVENUE, FRONTAGE WITH THE UNITS CLOSE TO THE STREET. 
          AS WE MENTIONED, THERE'S A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT WHERE, UH, IT GETS, UM, EIGHT TREE, EIGHT SIGNIFICANT TREES ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL. 
          UH, MOST OF THESE ARE OAKS. 
          THERE WAS ALSO A CREPE MYRTLE. 
          THE TREES WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE ARBORIST FOR THE, AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT. 
          THE LOCATIONS ARE SHOWN. 
          MOST OF THESE TREES ARE AROUND THE EDGE OF THE SITE, NEAR THE, UM, NEAR THE SIDEWALK. 
          AGAIN, MOST OF THE TREES NEAR THE SIDEWALK, THERE ARE, THERE WERE SORT OF LATE IN THE PROCESS. 
          SOME OAK TREES IDENTIFIED THAT THEY HAVE PRESENTED OR APPEARED MORE LIKE A SHRUBBERY, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY TREES THAT, THAT WHEN MEASURED WERE DETERMINED TO BE SIGNIFICANT UNDER THE ORDINANCE, THESE ARE LOCATED ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE, NEAR THE EXISTING HOMES TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IN THE STAFF REPORT. 
          THERE'S AN ERROR IN THE DISCUSSION OF TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND TRIP GENERATION. 
          WE WERE USING NUMBERS AND INFORMATION FROM ANOTHER PROJECT. 
          THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO GENERATORS ANTICIPATED TO GENERATE 971 DAILY TRIPS, 69 TRIPS DURING THE AM PEAK HOUR 86 TRIPS DURING THE PM PEAK HOURS EVENING PEAK HOUR. 
          THIS COMPARES WITH THE EXISTING EDUCATIONAL FACILITY THAT WAS ESTIMATED TO GENERATE BETWEEN 956 AND 2,833 DAILY TRIPS. 
          A LOWER NUMBER WOULD BE IF YOU USE SORT OF EVALUATED AS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, A HIGHER NUMBER WOULD BE IF YOU EVALUATE IT MORE AS A DAYCARE CENTER. 
          SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS THE SAME OR LESS IMPACTS BASICALLY THAN THE ANY EXISTING CONDITION. 
          AND NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WERE DISCOVERED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS. 
          THERE IS ONE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION MEASURE, BUT IT NOT RELATED TO THE NUMBER OF TRIPS GENERATED BY THE SITE. 
          AND GREG MARTIN FROM, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT WILL DISCUSS THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT IN GREATER DETAIL AND ANALYSIS. 
          ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED ON THE PROJECT ARE A REQUIREMENT FOR PAYING A FEE FOR ART AND PUBLIC PLACE, PLACES, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND A PARK FEE IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS THAT WILL HELP CITY ACHIEVE ITS HOUSING PRODUCTION GOALS UNDER THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          ALSO THIS PROJECT PROPOSES HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING, WHICH IS THE KIND OF HOUSING IN THE KIND OF OBJECT THAT IS BEING ENCOURAGED STARTED THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. 
          WHEN IT'S LOCATED NEAR MAJOR STREETS, TRANSIT CORRIDOR, THE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS PREPARED FOR THE PROJECT, DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE A NET POSITIVE IMPACT OF $77,000 PER YEAR TO THE CITY'S GENERAL PROPOSED DESIGN OF THE SITE CREATE 
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SORT OF A REASONABLE TRANSITION IN THAT THE HIGHER DENSITY PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT THE ATTACHED UNITS ARE OUT TOWARDS VINCENT AND WAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT ARE TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE, THAT'S WHERE THE DETACHED UNITS ARE. 
          THIS IS OR WAS A, UH, COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT FACILITY. 
          AND ANY STUDENTS GENERATED FROM THIS PROJECT WOULD ATTEND VALLEY SCHOOLS. 
          IF ANY PART OF THE, ANY POSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WILL HAVE TO PAY SCHOOL IMPACT FEES, WHICH WOULD OFFSET GENERALLY ANY IMPACTS RELATED TO THE SCHOOL SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS OBVIOUSLY FELT THAT THERE'S A REDUCED NEED FOR THE FACILITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING IT TO THE DEVELOPER, WHICH CREATES A RESIDENTIAL REUSE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SITE AS PART OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH. 
          THE DEVELOPER HAS CONDUCTED NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ON AUGUST 22ND THROUGH THE 29TH OF LAST YEAR VIA ZOOM. 
          AND ON MARCH 5TH OF THIS YEAR, ALPER OUTREACH HAS BEEN ONGOING IN DIFFERENT FORMS SINCE 2019, BOTH IN PERSON DOOR TO DOOR. 
          I EMAIL AND BY ZOOM. 
          AND FOR THIS HEARING TONIGHT LEGAL NOTICES OR THE SECRET DOCUMENT WERE SENT OUT WAS PROVIDED ON MARCH 22ND COMMENT PERIOD ON THE DOCUMENT ENDED APRIL 21ST PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE FOR TONIGHT'S HEARING WAS SENT OUT ON MAY 10TH. 
          NOTICE WAS ALSO POSTED ON THE PROPERTY SHOWN HERE IS ALSO THE NOTICE FOR THE HEARING WAS ALSO POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          IT'S ALSO PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND NOTICE WAS MAILED TO 123 OWNERS AND OCCUPANTS WITHIN IT'S LIKE A, AS I MENTIONED, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT AND ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT HAS BEEN PREPARED ACCORDING TO SEQUENCE CIRCULATED FROM MARCH 22ND, THIS YEAR TO APRIL 21ST COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. 
          NOW, I'M GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THE SALT GREG MARTIN, SO THAT HE CAN PROCEED WITH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY. 
          MASKED UP HERE? UM, SO, SO, UH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, LET'S JUST SAY, MY NAME IS GREG MARTIN. 
          I'M WITH RING CON CONSULTANTS. 
          UH, WE PREPARED THE INITIAL STUDY AND MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THIS PROJECT AND, UH, UNDER SEEQUA, UH, THE, UH, I S M D THAT'S THE INITIAL STUDY YOU'VE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, UH, PROCESS, UH, WORKS LIKE THIS. 
          IT'S RELATIVELY SIMPLE. 
          UM, THE CITY PRAYERS, THE DRAFT, I ASKED HIM AND D AND I SAY, THE CITY HERE RING CON DID PREPARE IT, BUT YOU PREPARE IT. 
          WE SUBMIT AN ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFT TO THE CITY, THEY REVIEW IT AND APPROVE IT. 
          SO REALLY IT'S THE CITY'S DOCUMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN ONCE AFTER THEY'VE, UH, EVEN GIVEN THE OKAY, APPROVED IT, UM, CITI PUBLICLY CIRCULATES THE DOCUMENT DRAFT, I ASKED THEM IN D UM, AND, UH, JEFF SAID, UM, THERE'S, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON THE DRAFT ISM AND D UM, FROM MARCH 22ND OF 2021 TO, UH, APRIL 21ST, 2021. 
          SO 30 DAY PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD. 
          AND, UH, NOW WE HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. 
          UM, AND, UH, THEN IF THIS IS, UH, GOES ON TO, IF THIS GOES ON TO CITY COUNCIL, AFTER THAT, UH, THE CITY WOULD PREPARE FINDINGS, UH, AND THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO, UH, ADOPT THE INITIAL STUDY, M N D AND THEN VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO, UH, EARL. 
          IT WOULD MAKE A DECISION ON THE PROJECT. 
          THE PROJECTS, UH, WOULD HAVE IMPACTS UNDER SEACO THERE'LL WOULD BE LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT WITH INCORPORATED MITIGATION AND THE FOLLOWING ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE AREAS, BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, CULTURAL RESOURCES, GEOLOGY, AND SOILS HAZARDS, AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, NOISE, TRANSPORTATION, AND TRIBAL 
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CULTURAL RESOURCES, UH, AND ALL OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE AREAS AS DEFINED UNDER SEQUENCE. 
          THE PROJECT WAS FOUND HAVE EITHER NO IMPACT OR LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT IMPACT WITHOUT THE NEED FOR MITIGATION MEASURES. 
          UM, SO LONG THE PROJECT IS SIGNIFICANT, BUT, BUT MITIGABLE IMPACTS MEANS IT'S LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT CAN BE REDUCED TO LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT LEVEL WITH MITIGATION, UH, INCLUDED BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, UM, INCLUDING, UH, MITIGATION MEASURE BIO ONE, UH, FOR NESTING VERTIV WIDENS, AND THAT, UH, FOR CAREERS THAT, UH, IF CO CONSTRUCTION OCCURS DURING THE BIRD BREEDING SEASON, UH, NESTING CERT BIRD SAVORY MUST BE CARRIED OUT, UH, BY QUALIFIED BIOLOGISTS NO MORE THAN SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO INITIATION OF CONSTRUCTION, AND ALSO CAN USE MEASURES FOR, UH, UH, PROPER PROCEDURES, AVOIDANCE MEASURES, UH, IF NESTING BIRDS ARE FOUND, AND THEN THERE IS A MITIGATION MEASURE, BIO TWO SIGNIFICANT TREES, GEOFF THAT'S DONE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, IT REQUIRES SIGNIFICANT TREES AS DEFINED BY CITY REGULATIONS, UH, THAT ARE REMOVED DUE TO THE PROJECT SHALL BE MITIGATED BY ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AND MEASURES. 
          UH, PLACEMENT WITH TREES ARE COMPARABLE SIZE AND CONDITION AS DETERMINED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR RELOCATION ON OR OFF SITE WITH SUBMISSION OF AN ARBORIST REPORT DESCRIBING THE METHOD, AND WHEN YOUR SURVIVAL GUARANTEE IT'S RELOCATION OR A PAYMENT OF THE PROPER RESTITUTION VALUE OF THE TREE ORDINATION OF A BOX TREE TO THE CITY OR OTHER OBLIGATIONS TO BE USED ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE, UH, ISSUE AREA OF CULTURAL RESOURCES, UH, MITIGATION MEASURE SIERRA ONE FOR CULTURAL RESOURCES, ONE A RECORD AS WORKERS, ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS PROGRAM, WHICH IS, UH, GRAY THAT A QUALIFIED ARCHEOLOGIST SHALL BE RETAINED TO CONDUCT A, UH, WORKERS, ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS PROGRAM, OR WEEP TRAINING ON ARCHEOLOGICAL SENSITIVITY FOR ALL CONSTRUCTION PERSONNEL PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF ANY GROUND DISTURBING ACTIVITIES. 
          NOW, THE TRAINING SHALL BE CONDUCTED BY AN ARCHEOLOGIST, A QUALIFIED ARCHEOLOGIST, AND, UM, TO MAKE THE CONSTRUCTION PERSONNEL AWARE OF, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL MATERIALS THAT COULD BE ENCOUNTERED IF ANY, AND THEN A MITIGATION MEASURES CO2 AS FOR UNANTICIPATED DISCOVERY OF ARCHEOLOGICAL. 
          AND SIMILARLY IT, UH, EMAILS, UM, PROPER PROCEDURES TO BE TAKEN, UH, IN CASE OF A DISCOVERY OF ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES, UH, STOP WORK ORDER, AND THEN, UH, UH, PROPER PROCEDURES FOR HANDLING AND, UH, AND, UH, EVALUATION AND, UH, IF NECESSARY PROPER DISPOSITION OF, UH, ANY, UH, RESOURCES, IF, IF ANY OF THAT. 
          SO, UH, UNDER JLD AND SOILS, UM, UNDER SEEQUA, UH, THE, UH, ISSUE AREA OF, UH, PALEONTOLOGY IS ACTUALLY UNDER THE HEADING OF GEOLOGY. 
          SO SIMILARLY MITIGATION MEASURE GEO ONE, UH, KANE'S MEASURES FOR PROPER, UH, HANDLING AND, UH, UH, IT'S POSSESSION OF PALEONTOLOGY RESOURCES, IF ANY OF YOUR FAMILY AND THAT  LOGICAL RESOURCES GENERALLY ARE A FOSSIL DISCOVERIES. 
          THEN UNDER THE ISSUE AREA OF HAZARDS AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, UM, VACATION MEASURE HAS ONE SUSPECT AS BEST AS CONTAINING MATERIALS. 
          UH, MAYBE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PHRASED AS SUSPECTED AS BEST AS CONTAINING MATERIALS, OR IT COULD ALSO BE PHRASED THAT WAY, BUT IT REQUIRES THAT PRIOR TO THE ISSUE, LAND ISSUANCE OF A DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THE PROJECT, UH, THE APPLICANT SHALL CONTAIN UP, OBTAIN A LETTER FROM A QUALIFIED AS BESTEST ABATEMENT CONSULTANT THAT NO ASBESTOS CONTAINING MATERIALS ARE PRESENT IN THE BUILDINGS TO BE DEMOLISHED. 
          AND THEN, UM, THIS MEASURE ALSO CONTAINS PROPER MEASURES RETAKEN IF THOSE MATERIALS ARE FOUND AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AIR DISTRICT REGULATIONS, ANY OTHER APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL FEDERAL REGULATIONS, AND THE ISSUE AREA OF NOISE, UH, WE HAVE MITIGATION MEASURES, A NOI ONE FOR CONSTRUCTION NOISE REDUCTION, UH, REQUIRES, UH, THE CONTRACTOR TO IMPLEMENT NOISE REDUCTION MEASURES DURING CONSTRUCTION, UH, BUT WHICH MAY INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULING INSTRUCTION 
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ACTIVITIES TO AVOID OPERATING SEVERAL PIECES OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT SIMULTANEOUSLY I'M ENCLOSING STATIONARY EQUIPMENT AND INSTRUCTIONAL EQUIPMENT WITH NOISE, REDUCING MATERIALS AND LOCATING CONSTRUCTION STAGING, AND WARM-UP AREAS AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM ADJACENT RESIDENCES, RATHER SENSITIVE NOISE, SENSITIVE RECEIVERS. 
          AND LASTLY, IT REQUIRES THE CONTRACTOR TO ERECT TEMPORARY NOISE BARRIERS WITH A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF 10 FEET ALONG THE WESTERN AND SOUTHERN BOUNDARIES OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITE. 
          WHEN CONSTRUCTION IS PERFORMED WITHIN 50 FEET OF THE RESIDENCES AT THOSE BOUNDARIES, UH, SECONDLY, UNDER, UH, NOISE MITIGATION MEASURE NOI ONE SOUND INSULATION, AND THAT REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO INSTALL EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS, UH, WITH SUFFICIENT SOUND TRANSMISSION CLASS READINGS, TO REDUCE INTERIOR NOISE LEVELS TO, UH, ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF 45. 
          UH, UH, CNL IS BASICALLY A DECIBEL EQUIVALENT OR LOWER, WHICH IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE FOR, UH, INTERIOR EVITABLE SPACES, UM, AND TO REDUCE POTENTIAL NOISE IMPACTS TO FUTURE PROJECT RESIDENTS, RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH LINE OF SIGHT TO ANY AREA ROADWAY SHALL INCORPORATE DESIGN MEASURES FOR WINDOWS, WALLS AND DOORS THAT ACHIEVE, UM, COMPOSITE STC CENTRALS, WHICH IN CLASS READING AT LEAST 30, UM, AND MAKING SURE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, ALL EXTERIOR DOORS AND WINDOWS SHALL BE INSTALLED, THAT THERE ARE NO, UH, AIR GAPS OR PERFORATIONS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF NOISE INTRUSION. 
          AND THEN, UH, UNDER THE HEADING OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          UH, JEFF MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, UM, UH, THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UM, AND, AND REFERRED TO IN THE INITIAL STUDY, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION. 
          UM, AS HE SAID, UH, IT IS ESTIMATED THAT THE PROJECT WOULD GENERATE 971, UH, DAILY TRIPS, UH, UNDER SEEQUA B UH, UH, UH, RECENT, UH, LEGISLATION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          UM, THE SQL LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NO LONGER, UM, TO BE USED AS, UH, THE DETERMINED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FOR TRANSPORTATION, WHEREVER WE INCLUDE THE INFORMATION ABOUT TRIP GENERATION AND HOW MANY TRIPS WHERE THOSE TRIPS WOULD GO, OR WHICH ROADWAYS THEY MIGHT GO ON TO FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES. 
          AND, UH, CITIES CAN STILL CONSIDER THAT INFORMATION IN THEIR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS, UH, OUTSIDE OF  AS WELL. 
          AND AS JEFF SAID, UM, UH, FOR SAFETY PURPOSES AND TO EMPHASIZE THE, UH, THIS IS ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY AND CONTROL AND NOT LEVEL OF SERVICE, UH, MITIGATION MEASURES, TRAN WAN, TRAFFIC SAFETY AND CONTROL. 
          UM, THE AFRICAN SHELL INCORPORATE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED BY THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND THE CITY CONDITIONS APPROVAL INTO THE FINAL GRADING LANDSCAPING AND STREET IMPROVEMENT PLANS. 
          AND, UH, THESE PLANS SHOULD ALSO SHOW THE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, DESCRIBED IN FURTHER DETAIL ON THE MITIGATION MEASURE AND WHOLESOME, UH, IN THE CONNECTIONS, A RULE AT THE PROJECT DRIVEWAYS OF WEST WORKMAN AVENUE AND WEST GARVEY AVENUE NORTH, WHICH HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TURNING MOVEMENTS AND LANE CONFIGURATION AT THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          AND, UH, LASTLY, UM, IN THE AREA OF TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES, UM, THERE'S THREE MITIGATION MEASURES. 
          THEY'RE ACTUALLY QUITE DETAILED, BUT THEY ALL RELATE VERY CLOSELY TO EACH OTHER. 
          UM, IT'S TCR ONE, TWO AND THREE, UM, AND IT REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO OBTAIN A NATIVE AMERICAN MONITOR TO MONITOR CONSTRUCTION, UH, CONTAINS MEASURES FOR WHAT TO DO IF THERE'S NOT ANTICIPATED DISCOVERY OF TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES AND A TCR THREE, UM, CONTAINS, UH, FILLS THE, UH, UH, APPLICANT, THE CONTRACT, OR WHAT TO DO IF THERE IS NOT INTENSE AND ANTICIPATED DISCOVERY OF HUMAN RAINS, UH, AND ASSOCIATED OR ASSOCIATED FUNERARY OBJECTS. 
          SO, UH, NEXT STEPS AND THE, UH, AND THAT SECRET PROCESS. 
          AND ALSO JUST FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT IN GENERAL, UM, TONIGHT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND THE INITIAL STUDY AND MITIGATIVE 90 OF DECLARATION, UM, TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, ANY, UH, MINING COMMISSION OR, UH, ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INITIAL STUDY I CAN, UH, TAKE THOSE ARE THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
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OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, STAFF AND CONSULTANTS, UM, I'M SORRY, THE PRESENTATION IS NOT COMPLETED. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, MENTION OF THE INCORRECT PROJECT IS IN TWO PLACES. 
          UM, IT'S IN BOTH THE DISCUSSION OF TRAFFIC IMPACTS SORT OF IN THE BODY OF THE REPORT, BUT IT'S ALSO MENTIONED IN THE SECTION DEVOTED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION. 
          UM, AGAIN, THE SECTION THAT MENTIONS THE CAMERON AVENUE PROJECT, THE TOLUCA AVENUE INTERSECTION THAT'S INCORRECT. 
          THE PROJECT IS THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED AT, AT VINCENT WORKMAN AND GARVEY TOTAL OF 971 DAILY TRIPS. 
          AND NO TRAFFIC IMPACTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRIP GENERATION WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT DETERMINED THAT NO IMPACTS WOULD OCCUR AND NO MITIGATION MEASURES ARE PROPOSED TO DEAL WITH DAILY TRIPS. 
          UM, WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS AND RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 20 DASH OH SIX TREE REMOVAL PERMIT 21 DASH OH THREE, TENTATIVE TRACK MAP NUMBER 83, ONE 66, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 DASH OH TWO AND ZONE CHANGE NUMBER 20 DASH OH THREE WITH THAT. 
          UH, I AND GREG ARE READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OTHERS. 
          COULD I? THANK YOU, GREG. 
          AND THANK YOU AND CONSULTANTS. 
          UM, DOES ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FALL CONSULTANTS OR STUFF? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          SO W WITH REGARD TO THE, THE 10 PLEX, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AS, UH, HAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION EVER APPROVED THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF A 10 PLEX ELEMENTS SUCH AS, IS THIS FOR BUILDING? NO, WE'VE DONE SIX AND FIVE. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO JOANNE ON THAT IN THE PAST, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS APPROVED, UM, MORE, UH, MORE UNITS, MORE THAN 10, 10 UNITS PER BUILDING. 
          UH, BUT THAT HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. 
          IT, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE MOSTLY. 
          WHAT WAS THAT FOR? UH, WAS THAT FOR LIKE APARTMENTS OR WAS THAT FOR, UM, OR SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES? LIKE, LIKE A CONDO COMPLEX? UM, THEY WERE FOR APARTMENTS AND ALSO, I THINK, UM, I'M NOT, I BELIEVE THAT THERE, THERE IS A, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, ALONG GRANDE THAT MAY HAVE MORE UNITS THAN 10 UNITS PER BUILDING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UH, WITH REGARD TO, UH, THE, THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, UM, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE SHORTEST DISTANCE, UM, BETWEEN THE, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE THE, THE REAR OR THE SIDE OF, OF EACH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNIT AND THAT, UH, THAT VINYL FENCE THAT, UH, THAT ABUTS THE, UH, EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD SHORTEST DISTANCE. 
          SO MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU, YOU SAID THAT THE AVERAGE DISTANCE WAS I BELIEVE, 14 FEET. 
          UM, WHAT IS, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, THE SMALLEST, I GUESS IF YOU WILL, AND INDULGE ME, UM, QUASI SETBACK, BECAUSE 21 FEET, I UNDERSTAND THE SETBACKS 21 FEET, BUT WHAT'S THE DISTANCE, THE SHORTEST DISTANCE BETWEEN THE, THE 
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BACK OR THE SIDE WALL OF THE UNIT AND THE VINYL FENCING. 
          OH, THE VINYL FENCE, THE, THE RIGHT FOR EACH UNIT, THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL UP THE PLANS THEMSELVES AND GET THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, COMMISSIONER LEWIS, ARE YOU ASKING REGARDING THE SIZE SETBACK OF THOSE HOUSE? I'M JUST SO I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE IS, IS, UH, IS 390 SQUARE FEET. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE, THE SORT OF MINIMUM. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          THE APPLICANT CAN BEST ANSWER THIS PROBABLY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE NARROWEST DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NEW DETACHED BUILDING AND THE NEW VINYL FENCE THAT SERVES AS SORT OF THE YARD FENCE FOR THAT BUILDING, THE MINIMUM DISTANCE, I THINK IS FIVE FEET. 
          THE APPLICANT CAN, CAN CONFIRM THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT AS I MENTIONED IN SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS, THAT FIVE FOOT, IS IT FUNCTIONS MORE LIKE THE SIDE YARD AND NOT THE BACKYARD YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, THAT, SORRY, NOT TO INTERRUPT, BUT THAT, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WITH, WITH REGARD TO THE SITUATIONS WHERE THE SIDE YARD EFFECTIVELY FUNCTIONS AS THE BACKYARD, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE, THE, THE, THE SH THE SHORTEST DEPTH, IF YOU WILL. 
          WELL, YEAH, FOR IT'S REALLY THIS, PROBABLY THIS UNIT, THESE TWO UNITS, RIGHT NEAR THE, SORT OF THE CENTER OF THE WESTERLY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE YOU'VE GOT A CORNER OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THE VINYL FENCE. 
          AND IN THAT LOCATION, THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK ALSO THE NARROWEST DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NEW BUILDING AND THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE, THAT'S THE MINIMUM DIMENSION OF 21 FEET THERE. 
          SO YOU'D HAVE FIVE FEET TO THE VINYL FENCE AND THEN 16 FEET FROM THE VINYL FENCE DOWN TO THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          THE REASON I'M ASKING IS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, WITH, WITH REGARD TO THE TREES, NOT, NOT THE PHOTO CARPETS, BUT THE, THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PLANTED, UM, OSTENSIBLY BETWEEN THE VINYL FENCING AND THE, UH, THE, UH, CINDER BLOCK FENCE. 
          YES. 
          UM, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY OVERHANG FROM THOSE TREES THAT SORT OF ENCROACH ON, ON ANY OF THE, UH, THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE? THAT THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THIS, THE SITE PLAN UP ON THE SCREEN. 
          OH, I KNOW IF I CAN, IF I DRAG IT TO THE LEFT HERE, THEY WERE SAYING, OKAY, SO THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE SITE. 
          UM, E MOST OF THESE TREES, WELL, IT'S, IT'S, UH, ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU'VE GOT A S A SERIES OF THEY'RE CALLING, THEY'RE MENTIONING TAHLIA IN CYPRUS, I THINK, BUT THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE PHOTO CARPUS ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT BRISBANE BOX AND AUSTRALIAN WILLOW, OR AFRICAN SUMAC, PLUS THE POTEAU CARPUS ALONG THAT SORT OF WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE. 
          SO YES, IN SOME OF THESE PLACES, ESPECIALLY SORT OF AT THE NARROWEST BUNK LOCATIONS, THE TREES ARE GOING TO OVERHANG THE REAR YARDS OR THE SIDE YARDS OF THOSE UNITS. 
          UM, UNDOUBTEDLY, SO I GUESS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FROM A FUNCTIONALITY STANDPOINT, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE, I GUESS I CAN ASK THE DEVELOPER THIS, BUT WHAT, WHAT GETS SAVEABLE BE DONE TO LIMIT THE IMPACT OF, OF THE USE OF THAT SPACE, BUT, UH, ALL THAT'S, THAT'S A QUESTION I'LL ASK THE DEVELOPER. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, QUICK, QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT IN THE, IN THE ZONE CHANGE. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, IS, THIS WOULD BE AN INSTANCE WHERE WE WOULD BE GOING FROM OUR ONE, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S, UH, ZONE NOW TO, UM, YOUR MEDIUM DENSITY, UM, UH, ARE UP TO 20 UNITS. 
          UH, MY, MY QUESTION IS, UM, WHAT, WHAT CAN BE, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, W DID WE CONSIDER A, UH, A SPECIFIC PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THIS SITE, AS OPPOSED TO, UM, A, A ZONE CHANGE LIKE THAT? THERE IS A SPECIFIC PLAN PROPOSED FOR THE SITE THAT WILL, IN ESSENCE REPLACE THE ZONING STANDARDS FOR WHATEVER'S MENTIONED IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN, IN TERMS OF PARKING SETBACKS, HEIGHT, THOSE REPLACED THE ZONING STANDARDS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          SO THERE IS A SPECIFIC PLAN PROPOSED FOR 
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THE PRODUCT. 
          OKAY, UNDERSTOOD. 
          HOWEVER, WE WILL BE CHANGING THE ZONING OVER TO MEDIUM DENSITY, CORRECT. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS? THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO, I THINK IT'S IT'S MEDIUM, MEDIUM DENSITY, OR IS IT HEIGHT IN THE PROPOSAL? THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM R ONE TO A PLAN AND TO CHANGE THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FROM, FROM, UM, LOW, LOW, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, RESIDENTIAL TO, TO MEDIUM NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL, WHICH PROVIDES A DENSITY OF UP TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          SO THE, SO THE QUESTION THAT THAT NATURALLY EMANATES FROM THAT IS IN THE EVENT THAT THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED AND THE DEVELOPER IS UNABLE TO DEVELOP THE SITE. 
          WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE CITY IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, TO DEVIATE FROM ZONE CHANGE THAT, THAT YOU'VE APPROVED IN TERMS OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY COME IN THERE, THE GENERAL, THE GENERAL PLAN AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, CHANGE WE'LL WE'LL SEE. 
          AND, AND ALSO THE, THE SPECIFIC PLAN WILL BE IN PLACE, UM, ADOPTING THIS SPECIFIC PLAN REQUIRES AN AUDIT REQUIRES AN, UM, AS ZONE CHANGE. 
          SO THE ZONING, UM, OF THAT PARTICULAR OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WILL DEFAULT TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN ITSELF. 
          SO ANY, ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN, UNLESS ANOTHER APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CHANGING THAT FAIR ENOUGH. 
          I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLARIFIED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO THE COMMISSIONER HAS, UH, QUESTIONS FOR ALL STAFF AND ALL CONSULTANTS HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF IN THE REPORT. 
          IT STARTS OUT, UM, IDENTIFYING ON ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS THAT I'M LOOKING AT DOING A CONDOMINIUM MAP UNDER THE VESTING, BUT THEN IN THE REPORT, IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT INDIVIDUAL LOT. 
          I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW UNDER THE VESTING TENTATIVE MAP, ARE THEY GOING TO BE CONDOMINIUMS OR WILL THEY BE INDIVIDUAL LOT? THE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE ARE ALL INDIVIDUAL LOTS. 
          EVEN THE TOWNHOMES BASICALLY ARE INDIVIDUAL LOTS. 
          THERE IS A CONDOMINIUM MAP IN PART BECAUSE THEY HAVE COMMON OPEN SPACE. 
          THEY HAVE COMMON, LOTS OF IN SHARED OWNERSHIP. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE, THERE'S A STRIP OF LAND. 
          THAT'S A COMMON LOT. 
          THE PRIVATE DRIVES ARE ON THE COMMON LAW. 
          SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, TYPICALLY IT'S IN A VERNACULAR SENSE. 
          WE DESCRIBE IT AS A CONDOMINIUM MAP BECAUSE THERE'S THOSE COMMON AREAS, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, I DON'T BELIEVE, AND MATT CAN CORRECT ME. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S A TRADITIONAL CONDOMINIUM BECAUSE THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL LOTS, INDIVIDUAL HOMES FOR SALE. 
          SOME ARE DETACHED, SOME ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS? IF NOT? UM, I'M GONNA, I'M SORRY, IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE APPLICANT, THOSE IN FAVOR, THEN THOSE WHO OPPOSE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA, UM, HEAR FROM THE AFRICAN FOOT, THE REBUTTAL. 
          WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, AND FOLLOWING THAT, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE WANT TO OPEN UP FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, SO LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          FIRST IS COME UP. 
          HEY, GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, SHARE, HANG AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT BEFORE YOU, I JUST WANTED TO, MY NAME IS MATT MAHARA. 
          I'M A PRODUCT MANAGER WITH MERITAGE HOMES. 
          I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH REAL QUICK ON, ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, UH, COMMISSIONER LEWIS, UH, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, HAS THE CITY, UH, PASS ANYTHING WITH LARGER THAN 10, 10 THAN A 10 PLEX R UH, 
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CAMERON 56 PROJECT IS, WAS ACTUALLY A 14 PLEX. 
          IT WAS A, IT WAS A SEVEN, SEVEN UNIT BUILDING, BUT IT WAS ATTACHED. 
          SO IT ENDED UP BEING, UM, UH, 14. 
          LET'S JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          UM, AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE W UM, WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF TREES PLANNED FOR THAT AREA. 
          WE HAVE OVER 220 TREES PLANNED FOR THAT, THAT HOA, UM, LOT, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE CCNRS THAT WOULD, UM, RESTRICT TREES FROM OVERHANGING, AND IF THEY ARE, WE CAN TRIM THEM. 
          SO WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S KIND OF A FALL BACK THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, OH, AND THEN, AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS DECIDE THE MINIMUM CIDER BACK FOR THOSE UNITS IS FIVE FEET. 
          UM, BUT THE MINIMUM, UH, DIMENSION FOR PRIVATE OPEN SPACE IS 10 FEET. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE FOR THAT CONDITION WHERE THE MOTOR COURTS HAVE THE FIVE YARD SETBACK, UH, THEY HAVE A 10 FOOT BACKYARD MINIMUM, UM, AND THEN COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. THIS IS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          IT'S A, IT, IT IS A, UH, A CONDO MAP, BUT THE MOTOR COURT, THE DETACHED UNITS ARE FEE SIMPLE. 
          JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          IT'S, IT'S TWO. 
          SO THE TOWNHOMES ARE OUR CONDOS, BUT THE MOTOR COURT DETACHED RFE SYMBOL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK STAFF FOR AN EXTREMELY THOROUGH STAFF REPORT. 
          UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORKING WITH THE CITY, IT'S BEEN A TRULY TRANSPARENT AND COHESIVE EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH EVERYONE ON CITY STAFF, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          OH, YOU HAVE TO, SORRY. 
          I JUST JUMPED IN. 
          I, I ASSUMED THERE WAS A NO WORRIES. 
          THAT'S THE ONE. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO INTRODUCE WHO MERITAGE HOMES IS. 
          I WON'T, I I'LL, I'LL BE BRIEF. 
          I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE BULLETS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE, THE, THE BIG THING IS A MERITAGE HOMES WHERE THE SIX LARA, THE LARGEST HOME BUILDER IN THE UNITED STATES, WE HAVE COMMUNITIES IN EAST COAST ALL THE WAY TO, UH, WEST COAST. 
          UM, UH, BUT THERE ARE OUR MAIN THING THAT DIFFERENTIATES US FROM MOST PUBLIC HOME BUILDERS AND BUILDERS IN GENERAL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY ARE THE LEADER IN ENERGY, EFFICIENT HOME BUILDING IN THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, UH, WE, WE JUST RECENTLY WON THE, THE ENERGY STAR AWARD. 
          THIS IS THE EIGHTH TIME IN A ROW THAT WE'VE DONE THIS. 
          UM, NO OTHER BUILDER HAS, HAS BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT. 
          UM, WHAT SETS US APART IS WE PROVIDE SPRAY FOAM INSULATION, UH, SOLAR STANDARD, YOU KNOW, UH, UV BLOCKING WINDOWS, ALL THE, ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT MAKE, YOU KNOW, A TRULY ENERGY EFFICIENT, UH, THAT MAKE A TRULY ENERGY EFFICIENT HOME. 
          UM, AND THEN ON THE LAST SLIDE, WE, WE JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT WE WON THE ABBOTT AWARD. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT AVID IS, IT'S A CUSTOMER SATISFACTION AWARD FOR, UH, HOME BUYERS. 
          UM, SO OUR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA DIVISION, UM, OUT OF ALL THE, UH, PUBLICLY TRADED HOME BUILDERS OUT OF ALL THE PRIVATE AND SMALL BUILDER, PRIVATE BUILDERS, WE WON THAT AWARD. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU NOT ONLY ARE WE BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENT HOMES, BUT ARE W W WE HAVE HAPPY, HAPPY HOME BUYERS, AND, UM, THAT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD FOR US. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT. 
          YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALKED WITH STAFF, INITIALLY, THIS WAS A TOWNHOME PROJECT. 
          WE STARTED WITH THREE STORY TOWN HOMES. 
          UM, WE HAD OVER 170 TOWN HOMES PLANNED, BUT AFTER MEETING WITH, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND, AND AFTER MEETING WITH NEIGHBORS, GETTING FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PLAYERS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HEARD YOU REALLY WANT TO GO WITH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES NEXT TO EXISTING, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND, UM, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND, AND, UH, WE ALL, FOR ALL THE HOMES ON THE WESTERN SIDE AND ALONG WORKMAN, THOSE ARE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN THE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES ARE FURTHER DOWN ON, UH, ON VINCENT. 
          UM, IT'S MORE OF KIND OF AN URBAN DOWNTOWN TYPE, UH, ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO AS MENTIONED BEFORE, AS 47, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 72 TOWNHOMES, UM, AND, UH, AND YOU HAVE YOUR MAIN ENTRY OFF OF WORKMEN, UH, ONTO THAT KIND OF THAT CENTRAL OPEN SPACE AREA. 
          UM, AND WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS CLOSELY ON THAT, ON THAT WESTERN LANDSCAPING, 20 FOOT BUFFER MINIMUM. 
          AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE ON, ON THE 
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NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS AN IMAGE, THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE EXISTING VINCENT AVENUE CORRIDOR. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE MOST PLEASANT PLACE TO WALK RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A CHAIN LINK FENCE. 
          IT'S A COVERED CHAIN-LINK FENCE. 
          UM, SO AS IT STANDS TODAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE MOST INVITING STREET SCENE. 
          AND THEN THIS IS, THIS IS THE STREET SCENE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE TREES LINED UP, UM, UH, ALONG VINCENT, UM, WITH THE, THE OUTDOOR PATIOS, THE, THE SECOND STORY DECKS. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS JUST ON SITE TODAY. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY ONLY A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM, UH, PLAZA, LOTS OF WEST COVINA, WHICH IS SUPER WALKABLE AREA. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY ADA ROUTE THAT GOES FROM, UH, FROM THIS PRODUCT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PLAZA WEST COVINA. 
          SO THIS IS A REALLY WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS AWESOME FOR WEST COVINA TO HAVE. 
          UM, AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE ARCHITECTURE, WE HAVE A LOT OF MOVEMENT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE SHADOWS CAST, UH, WE HAVE A MIXTURE OF THE SIDING, UH, UH, BRICK AND, AND, UH, AND STUCCO. 
          SO WE, WE, WE TRIED TO TAKE TRADITIONAL MATERIALS AND STILL ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MODERN, UH, UH, COLOR SCHEME AS WELL. 
          SO THIS IS AN IMAGE OF, OF THE, BEFORE SHOWING A WORKMAN ON YOUR, ON THE, ON THE LEFT EDGE OF THE SCREEN, THIS IS THE AFTER JUST KIND OF SHOWING YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TWO STORY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, THE DETACHED HOMES POSE NEXT TO THE EXISTING, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WITH THAT CENTRAL OPEN SPACE, AS YOU, AS YOU'RE ENTERING IN THE COMMUNITY, ALL THE, ALL THE FRONT DOORS ARE, ARE FACING THAT CENTRAL OPEN SPACE. 
          AND THEN THE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES ARE FURTHER CLOSER TO DO YOU VINCENT. 
          THIS IS THE, THE ENTRY SEQUENCE HERE. 
          YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS NOT A GATED COMMUNITY. 
          UM, WE HAVE PEDESTRIAN PORTALS, UH, AS YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET WITH THE ENTRY MONUMENTATION AND, UM, AND, AND THE PALM TREES LEADING OUT ONTO THE MAIN DRIVEWAY, UH, WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT OPENS THAT OPEN-SPACE AREA IS LOCATED. 
          SO NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE REALLY PRIDE OURSELVES ON HAVING AN EXTENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH. 
          THIS IS ONE THING THAT WE REALLY FOCUS ON AS A, AS A DEVELOPER. 
          UM, WE, WE, WE STRIVE TO, TO REACH OUT EARLY AND OFTEN THAT'S THAT'S OUR PRIORITY. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED REACHING OUT IN, IN EARLY, UH, 20, 20, OVER A YEAR AGO, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, UH, COVID HAPPENED, BUT WE, WE WORKED WITH STAFF AND WE DETERMINED THAT WE STILL WANTED TO HAVE VIRTUAL COMMUNITY OUTREACH. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE, WE SENT OUT THESE FLYERS THAT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, WITH A SITE PLAN IN FAQ, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING A COUPLE OF DETAILS ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND THEN ALSO, UM, EVERYONE WITHIN A 300 FOOT RADIUS WAS NOTICED THESE FLYERS AND, UM, THESE FLYERS INCLUDED A QR CODE AND A LINK SO THAT PEOPLE COULD ARRANGE FOR AN HOUR WITH ME DURING, DURING A SPECIFIED TIME. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD ABOUT THE PROJECT. 
          WE RECEIVED REALLY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THAT MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT ZOOM MEETING THAT I JUST REFERRED TO, WE ALSO HAD SEPARATE ZOOM MEETINGS WITH, WITH, UH, UH, RESIDENTS OF THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND ALSO WITH ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. 
          WE HAD ONE-ON-ONE PHONE CALLS AND MEETINGS FROM MIKE COUNTING. 
          IT, IT WAS OVER, YOU KNOW, 30 TO 40 MEETINGS WITH, WITH NEIGHBORS SITTING IN THEIR BACKYARDS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY GATHERING THE FEEDBACK THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE A SMART COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THEIR FEEDBACK, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO MAKE A BETTER PROJECT FOR IT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE, UH, TOPICS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THE, DURING OUR MEETINGS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE WAS PRIVACY. 
          AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO IT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT MAINTAINING THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR PRIVACY, AND THEN RELATED TO THAT WAS LANDSCAPING. 
          HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE TREATED ON THE WESTERN EDGE? SO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING WITH, WITH NEIGHBORS WAS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PROVIDE THAT HOA LOT, UH, ALONG THE WESTERN EDGE. 
          UM, AND TH TH THE DISCUSSION WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW IS, HOW IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL, YOU STILL HAVE A FIVE FOOT DIFFERENTIAL, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE MAINTAINING MY PRIVACY? UM, SO WE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WE CAME UP WITH A, WITH A GOOD SOLUTION HERE. 
          UM, WHAT WE DID WAS WE, WE OFFERED TWO ROWS OF TREES. 
          THE FIRST ROW DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE, UH, TO THE, TO THE, UH, PROPERTY LINE IS A, AH, IS TALL POTA CARPUS TREES PLANTED AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT YOU'RE GETTING THIS GREENWALL EFFECT. 
          UM, 
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AND THEN AT THE TOP OF SLOPE, WE HAVE ANOTHER LAYER OF TREES. 
          UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PROVIDING, UH, OPAQUE GLASS FOR THE SECOND STORY WINDOWS, SO THAT, UM, AND IN MOST CASES, THOSE ARE FIXED WINDOWS. 
          SO THAT PEOP FOLKS CAN'T BE LOOKING INTO, UH, THE BACKYARDS OF THESE NEIGHBORS, UH, THEY'RE ONLY GETTING LIGHT IN FROM THOSE WINDOWS. 
          SO WE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH, WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO COME UP WITH THE SOLUTION. 
          AND I BRING UP THE TREE PLANTING PLAN, JUST, JUST TO SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OVER 122 TREES, INCLUDING THE POTEAU CARPETS. 
          THAT'S LINED UP ON THAT WESTERN EDGE. 
          WE HAVE 23 TREES ON THE SOUTH IN TOTAL, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THOSE TWO, WE HAVE 145, AND WE HAVE OVER 277 TREES PLANTED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT. 
          THE NEXT ONE WAS PARKING AND, AND IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS A, IT'S ALWAYS A TOPIC FOR EVERY COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND, AND W AFTER WORKING WITH THE, AFTER WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THE RESIDENTS OF, OF, OF, OF THE CITY, WE IDENTIFIED 12 ADDITIONAL PARKING STALLS. 
          SO WE IDENTIFIED EIGHT ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND FOUR BETWEEN EACH OF THE TOWNHOME BUILDINGS. 
          AND I HAVE THEM CIRCLED THERE. 
          UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF THE PARKING, WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE CCNRS FOR THIS HOA THAT REQUIRE THAT EACH HOMEOWNER ARE TWO CARS IN EACH GARAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THE RESIDENTS IS COMPLYING WITH THIS, WITH THIS, UH, REQUIREMENT. 
          LAST QUESTION WAS, WHAT TYPE OF AMENITY IS THIS? SOME, SOME FOLKS WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT IF IT WAS GONNA BE A POOL AREA, IF IT WAS GOING TO BE GATED, UM, THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THAT SPACE WAS GOING TO BE LIKE. 
          SO HE, HERE, YOU CAN SEE A, A BLOW UP OF, OF THAT, OF THAT SPACE AND IT'S, UM, UH, CENTRAL CENTRALLY LOCATED, UH, AREA WITH, UH, THE MAILBOXES. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE TURF AREA WITH THE SHADED STRUCTURE, UM, AND THEN THE, THE TOT LOT ADJACENT TO IT WITH PICNIC TABLES, A DOGGY BAG STATION, JUST A NICE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO ON AND ENJOY, ENJOY THE WEEKEND. 
          AND HERE'S, HERE'S A RENDERING OF THAT. 
          YOU HAVE IT IN, IN YOUR BOOKLET, UM, JUST SHOWING HOW THAT, THAT SPACE IS REALIZED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE FRONT DOORS OF THE TOWNHOMES FACING ONTO THE, ONTO THE OPEN SPACE AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          THEN HERE, HERE'S A, JUST A BLOW UP OF, OF THE, OF THE SECONDARY OPEN-SPACE AREA. 
          JUST KIND OF SHOWING YOU, UH, ANOTHER POCKET FOR, UH, FOR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY, UH, HAVE A PICNIC WALK THEIR DOG. 
          UM, SO THAT'S AT THE CORNER OF VINCENT AND GARVEY. 
          NO, THE CONCLUSION W YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, NEW ATTAINABLE, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, UM, IN, IN THE CITY, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT WITH, WITH SO MANY WITH, UH, THE MOTOR CORPS, THE DETACHED HOMES AND THE TOWNHOME, THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES FOR, FOR MULTIPLE BUYER PROFILES. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, IT, IT'S AN INCREDIBLY ATTRACTIVE PART ABOUT THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND THE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOST IMPORTANTLY WORK WITH NEIGHBORS, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NEIGHBORS FOR, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR NOW. 
          UM, YOU, YOU SHOULD SEE LETTERS OF SUPPORT IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET FROM DIRECT ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN THAT TYPE OF OUTREACH. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          I HAVE MY TEAM OF CONSULTANTS HERE. 
          UH, I HAVE OUR LANDSCAPES, CIVIL AND ARCHITECTS, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MATT. 
          UM, SO DO WE HAVE THIS COMMISSION TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHILE APPLICANT? YEAH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UM, THE WALL, LET'S SEE, WHERE IS THIS? HOW'S THIS BEHIND THE PROPERTY. 
          IF YOU'RE COMING FROM, UH, THE BACK AREA, HOW TALL IS THE WALL BETWEEN THE HOMES AND, UH, THE LANDSCAPING? IS IT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE WEST EDGE? UH, YEAH, THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF VINCENT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO, SO WE HAVE A SIX FOOT BLOCK WALL AT THE BASE OF SLOPE AND THEN A FIVE FOOT SIX, UH, VINYL FENCE AT THE TOP OF SLOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST THE SIDE YARD FOR THE HOMEOWNER. 
          AND THEN HOW ABOUT ON, ON, ON GARVEY. 
          SO ON GARVEY FOR THAT, THAT MAIN OPEN SPACE AREA, WE HA IT'S A, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S A FIVE FOOT, SIX BLOCK WALL ON THAT, ON THAT EDGE WITH A, WITH A CAP ON TOP OF IT. 
          AND HOW ABOUT THE APARTMENT AREA 
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E APARTMENT AREA? I, I BELIEVE IS A SIX FOOT BLOCK WALL AS WELL. 
          THAT'S ADJACENT TO DID THAT EDGE. 
          AND, UH, AND IS, UH, WILL THE HOMEOWNERS OR SO STATES SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTING, UH, IN THE, YOUR PARKING AREAS, PARKING SPOTS, STALLS. 
          DO YOU KNOW IF THE ASSOCIATION WILL BE IMPLEMENTING A PARKING PERMIT, UH, PROCESS? SO WE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE INTO OUR PROJECT TOO. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO, SO THAT WE COULD ALLOW. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, WHO'S, WHO'S GOING TO BE PARKING IN THOSE STALLS. 
          UM, WE COULD, WE COULD SET THAT UP. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE PARKING TO OVERFLOW INTO THE OTHER RESIDENCE HOMES. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          AND IN, UH, IN, SO THE PERMIT PROCESS AND ALSO IS IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING SUCH AS, UH, IN AREAS WHERE SUCH AS IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE, IS THERE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT SOME SORT OF NO PARKING SIGNS OR FIRE LANES? ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE POSTED ALREADY, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S SHOWN THAT PEOPLE CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF GARAGES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THAT GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          MY LAST QUESTION IS, UM, WHICH I DIDN'T SEE IN THE PLANS, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A LIGHT LIGHTS AROUND THE AREA? YES, I'M ASSUMING. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          IS THAT GOING TO BE PITCH BLACK? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE FOR COMMISSION? I LEWIS. 
          SO, UH, I, I HAVE, UH, A FEW QUESTIONS JUST GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF THIS PROJECT TO 10 FREEWAY. 
          UM, IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO SOUND WALL THERE. 
          UM, ULTIMATELY I THINK THAT IS A BIT OF A CONCERN. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          UM, IF AF HAS ANY, UM, HAS ANYTHING TO STAY WITH REGARD TO, UM, WHAT I'LL TRANS WILL DO NOW THAT THERE ARE IN, IN ESSENCE, THERE WOULD BE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, DENSE RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, IS THAT A, IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE THEY WOULD EXTEND THE SOUNDWALL THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE OFF OF GARVEY THAT, UH, PROTECTS THE, UH, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE? OR HOW WOULD THAT END UP WORKING? I COULD CHECK JUST BRIEFLY. 
          I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SOUND WALL, BUT THEN THE MITIGATION MEASURE FOR NOISE IS INTENDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS DESIGNED SO THAT THERE IS MINIMAL SOUND TRANSMISSION INSIDE THE UNITS FROM ANY NOISE OUTSIDE. 
          SO EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF A SOUND WALL, THE NEW UNITS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED SUCH THAT THERE'LL BE VERY, VERY QUIET INSIDE. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, AND, AND THAT PART, I UNDERSTAND. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IS THE FACT THAT, UM, THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE THAT IS PROPOSED IS ALONG VINCENT, WHICH IS A RATHER HEAVILY TRAVELED CORRIDOR IN THE CITY. 
          AND PARTICULARLY WITH PROXIMITY TO THE FREEWAY. 
          UM, UH, MY, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT THERE, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOMETHING THERE. 
          UM, I I'M WITH REGARD TO THE, THAT LITTLE, UH, CURVED AREA ON, ON GARVEY WHERE, WHERE IT, UH, ABUTS INTO VINCENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT A FIVE FOOT FIVE AND A HALF FOOT FENCE THERE MAKES THE MOST SENSE FROM A SOUND MITIGATION STANDPOINT. 
          I MEAN, PARTICULARLY IF YOU WANT THIS TO BE AN AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE GOING OUTSIDE AND, AND ENTERTAINING, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPANY OR, OR, OR, OR WHATEVER. 
          THE TH THE SECOND THING I I'M, I'M ALWAYS, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, OR REASONS I, I I'M, I'M ALWAYS UNCERTAIN ABOUT, UM, BUT, UH, FROM A GETAWAY STANDPOINT, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, YOU KNOW, CRIMINALS AND TWO, 10 AND TWO, UH, UH, IT SPOTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE NEAR THE FREEWAY. 
          AND I THINK MY, MY INITIAL CONCERN, UM, WITH THIS PROJECT'S PROXIMITY TO THE FREEWAY IS, UM, I SEE, ON THE, ON THE SOUTH PORTION, YOU HAVE 12 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. 
          IT'S NOT A GATED COMMUNITY THERE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW TO ME HAVING 
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THAT PARKING SORT OF UPFRONT THERE, JUST, I MEAN, I LIKE THE FACT THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL PARKING, BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT IT, IT, IT COULD BE AN INVITATION FOR, FOR PROBLEMS DOWN THE LINE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, COULD THERE BE SOME SORT OF BARRIER TO THE MITIGATE THAT COULD THERE BE, UM, I DUNNO, UM, SECURITY OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, HAVE GIVEN ANY THOUGHTS TO, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, OH, IS IT OFF? OKAY, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? I COULD, I COULD VERIFY IT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE SOUND WALL, I, I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT IS GOING TO BE A CONCERN. 
          I MEAN, INITIALLY WE, WE JUST HAD KIND OF A HALF WALL, UM, AND THEN WE WALKED THE AREA AND OBVIOUSLY WE KNEW THAT, THAT, THAT IT HAD TO BE, YOU KNOW, A FULL-SIZE WALL. 
          SO IT WOULD BE A FIVE FOOT, SIX WALL WITH A CAP. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S AN ISSUE, UH, IN OUR SPECIFIC PLAN, THERE'S A MAXIMUM SIX FOOT TALL, UH, WALL REQUIREMENT, BUT WE'RE WRITING THE SPECIFIC PLAN STANDARDS. 
          IF, IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT WALL NEEDS TO BE TALLER, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WITH JUST SO, JUST SO I'M CLEAR WITH THE CAP, HOW TALL IS THE, IS THAT LEAVE? IT'S IT'S SIX FEET TOTAL WITH THE CAP AT SIX FEET WITH THE CAP WAS, SO WHAT DOES THE CAPITA LOOK LIKE? IT'S JUST, UM, UM, LIKE, UH, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME MATERIAL, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST, UH, JUST AN END PIECE, BASICALLY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S, AND IS THAT A, UH, A VINYL CONSTRUCTION, OR IS THAT OKAY? IT'S A BLOCK. 
          IT'S A SPLIT FLEECE. 
          A BLOCK WALL. 
          OKAY. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS NECESSARY TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THAT WALL, I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN, I, Y MY ONLY TREPIDATION ABOUT THAT ASPECT OF IT IS, IS REALLY JUST THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO EXISTING SOUND WALL THERE. 
          AND THE QUESTION IS, IF THIS IS APPROVED, UM, HOW, HOW QUICKLY IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE? AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER BECAUSE THAT'S WITHIN THE PROVINCE OF CALTRANS IN THE STATE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS, DO WE, WE, WHAT WOULD WE BE INCLINED TO PUT IN THAT REQUIREMENT WHEN IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE NECESSARY? AND THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YEAH, NO, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          A HIGH WALL WAS SERVED TWO PURPOSES, UM, VINCENT RIGHT NOW, AS A PUBLIC SIDEWALK THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PLAZA. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I IMAGINE THAT WILL CONTINUE AND NOTICING THE LAYOUT OF THOSE OUTDOOR PATIOS. 
          AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT WALL WOULD BE ABOUT THREE FEET HIGH. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          THE, THE PATIO WALLS, UH, YEAH. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO A PUBLIC SIDEWALK. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO NOW THE QUESTION IS, UM, FOR SECURITY PURPOSES, ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DESIGN SOME TYPE OF SPECIAL LIGHTING IN THE EVENING SO THAT WHEN THE RESIDENTS ARE ASLEEP, THEY DON'T HAVE YOU CONCERN SOMEONE CHOOSING TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND I'M OVER THE THREE FOOT FENCE INTO THEIR BACKYARD, THEN I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A SLIDING GLASS DOOR THAT LEADS IN TO THE UNIT? UH, NO, IT'S A REGULAR LOCKABLE FRONT DOOR. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO FROM THE PATIO AREA THERE, THAT FACING THERE IS GOING TO BE THE REGULAR FRONT DOOR, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN I, I DO, UM, THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF THE, THIS WAS THE, THE DESIGN INTENT FROM DAY ONE WAS, WAS TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING UP WALLS, UM, ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE SO THAT WE ARE ACCOMMODATING FOR THAT PUBLIC PRIVATE INTERFACE TO THAT. 
          THE LAST THING I THINK THAT ANYTHING ANYONE REALLY WANTS TO SEE IS WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING BY JUST TO SEE A BLOCK WALL. 
          BUT TO YOUR POINT, THOUGH, I DO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, NOISE IS, IS A CONCERN, LIGHTING SAFETY, UM, UM, IT'S, IT'S ALL THINGS THAT, THAT, UM, THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND, AND, AND SEE HOW WE CAN, WE CAN BETTER, UH, INCORPORATE THOSE DESIGN FEATURES WITHIN OUR PROJECT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ON, ON COMMISSIONER, LOUIS'S, UH, CONCERN ABOUT SECURITY FOR THE CAR, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND, AND JUST IN GENERAL, UM, I, I, WE DID LOOK INTO IT IN TERMS OF PRICING. 
          IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT THAT, UH, ON THE HOA FOR THESE HOMEOWNERS, UH, WE LOOKED INTO PRICING FOR THIS. 
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UM, SO IN ORDER TO HAVE A SECURITY GUARD COME AND CHECK THE COMMUNITY, UH, ONE TIME, FIVE TIMES PER WEEK, UM, IT'D BE AN ADDITIONAL $30 PER UNIT PER MONTH. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT $150, UH, HOA FEE. 
          UM, SO THAT COULD BE AN OPTION. 
          IF, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF IMPACTING THE, THE HOA AT THAT POINT. 
          BUT IF WE WERE TO HAVE A FULL-TIME SECURITY SERVICE, THAT WOULD, IT'S, IT'S PRICEY, IT'S INSECURITY SERVICES JUST BY NATURE ARE, UH, THAT WOULD BE OVER $200 PER UNIT PER MONTH ON TOP OF THE ONE 50. 
          SO, I MEAN, IT JUST, IT, IT, IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE BIT COST-PROHIBITIVE TO INCREASE IT TO 350 A MONTH FOR THIS TYPE OF, OF, OF LIVING. 
          HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S LIKE MORE LINING THERE OR LIGHTING IN THAT AREA? YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT OUR FOCUS JUST TO SEE HOW THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME SORT OF HYBRID, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE WE DO LOOK AT THAT, HOW MUCH MORE WOULD IT BE IF YOU WERE TO MAKE IT A GATED COMMUNITY, IF THERE, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURE, SO YOU COULD RAISE THE WALL HIGHER WHERE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY COULD HOP OVER. 
          AND THEN, I MEAN, IS THAT A MUCH, I KNOW $150 FOR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION IS WONDERFUL. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALMOST NON-EXISTENT SO HOW MUCH MORE WOULD IT RAISE IT IF YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME, SOME HOMELESS PROBLEMS NEAR THE FREEWAY THERE, AND THOSE APARTMENTS IS AS WELL. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          AND, AND YOU KNOW, THAT I, AND I I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO STAFF ON THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, UH, FROM THE BEGINNING, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THE CITY WANTED TO HAVE A GATED COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S JUST KIND OF A GENERAL POLICY THAT IT DIDN'T WANT TO, UM, HAVE THOSE TYPES OF COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IN KIND OF A TRANSIT AREA. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR US, IN TERMS OF IF WE HAD, IF WE TRIED TO, TO CONVERT THAT YOU NEED A, A TURNAROUND, UM, SO THAT, THAT WOULD IMPACT, YOU KNOW, THE EFFICIENCY OF THE, OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IF, IF, IF FOLKS ARE GONNA COMMIT A CRIME, WHETHER THE COMMUNITY IS GATED OR NOT, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. 
          IT'S JUST REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE DESIGN FEATURES, IF YOU HAVE IT LIT PROPERLY, IF YOU, IF YOU HA YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE IS A SECURITY ELEMENT, THERE'S LIKE THE ACTIVE THINGS, BUT THE FENCE, THE GATE IS SOMEONE CAN FOLLOW SOMEONE IN AND IT'S PRETTY EASY TO DO. 
          I'VE, I'VE, I'VE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. 
          UM, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, I, I TH I, I'D ALSO JUST DEFER TO STAFF ON THEIR POLICY ON, WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, SINCE THERE'S ONLY TWO ENTRY WAY, CAN THEY JUST PUT TWO GATES OVER THERE, UH, TO YOU, YOU'RE SAYING TO ONE GATE ON WORK WHEN AREA THE OTHER GATES AND GARVEY AREA, THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH SOMEWHAT PRIVACY, SOMEWHAT GATED. 
          SO INITIALLY WHEN WE, THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS DESIGN, THAT THAT SOUTH ROAD WAS A, UH, AN EVA GATE, UM, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS CONSIDERED TO HAVE JUST KIND OF LIKE A CRASH GATE. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN EXPLORE THAT OPTION IF, IF, IF NEED BE, IF JUST TO FORCE THAT TO BE AN EVA, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ACCESS REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          WE'D HAVE TO GET WITH, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OKAY, BECAUSE THEY DO REQUIRE TWO ACCESS POINTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT ACTUALLY BEING A, ANY VA GATE, BUT WE COULD, WE COULD EXPLORE THAT OPTION IF THAT'S THE RENO OF, UH, GARVEY AVENUE IS GOING TO THAT AREA, THE LOOP AREA, RIGHT THERE. 
          IS THAT GOING TO BE A RED ZONE RIGHT THERE, A FIRE LANE ZONE? I BELIEVE SO. 
          I, YES, I BELIEVE SO. 
          SO, CAUSE I KNOW IF WE, I MEAN, IF THAT IS A RED ZONE AND THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION REALLY ENFORCES THE PERMIT, PARKING PERMIT, UH, PERMITTING AND REALLY ENFORCES IT WITH THE TOWING COMPANY PARTNERSHIP, I THINK, UH, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST A LOWER CRIME RATE IN THAT CORRIDOR RIGHT THERE. 
          CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE CRIMES THAT HAPPEN IN THAT AREA CURRENTLY. 
          AND, UH, ALSO I WANT TO SAY GREAT JOB ON, UM, I WANT TO SAY ML, MOC HOLDINGS AND CITY STAFF FOR BEING SO DETAIL AND PROVIDING ALL THIS EXTRA DETAILS AND DRAWINGS TO THE PUBLIC AND ON OURSELVES IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW GREAT AND TRANSPARENCY THAT OUR CITY IS RUNNING AND OPERATING AS AN AND HOPEFULLY THE FUTURE PROJECTS THAT COME OUR WAY WILL BE AS GREAT AS DETAILED AS THE WAY 
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YOU PROVIDED US. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US ALL THESE, UH, SUCH DETAILS AND CITY STAFF FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER. 
          YOU GUYS, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR POINT THOUGH, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL CITY STAFF AND, AND, AND THEIR DIRECTION. 
          IT'S, IT'S BEEN REALLY A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THEM REALLY ON THE, UM, CAUSE I KNOW, SO ON A C AND THEN, UH, AND, AND WHAT ARE MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE SAYING, UM, ON THE WALLS. 
          SO THREE FEET, I DO AGREE WITH THEM THAT IT'S REALLY EASY TO JUMP OVER. 
          AND ESPECIALLY IF A POLICE OFFICER'S LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME AND THEY JUMPED THAT THREE FEET LAW, WHICH IS EASILY ABLE TO, AND THEY HIDE BEHIND THAT WALL, IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND THAT. 
          SO SPEC, UH, AND, AND, AND ALSO EASE A BLIND SPOT FOR THE OFFICER. 
          UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S AN OTHER AVERAGE OF, CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A PATIO AREA. 
          WE COULD SIT DOWN AND HAVE A SITE I VIEW. 
          SO IN OTHER HOMES THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKED ON, WHAT'S ANOTHER, UM, HIGHER FEET THAT YOU COULD GO, IS THERE, IS THERE AN AVERAGE MAYBE OF FOUR OR FIVE FEET, UH, IN HOMES LIKE THAT? I MEAN, AND I W YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN ALWAYS INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THAT WALL. 
          UM, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION FEELS IS A GOOD SOLUTION. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          BECAUSE I THINK PUTTING IT A LITTLE HIGHER, UH, MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER TO JUMP, BUT IT ALSO LEAVES THAT OUTSIDE PATIO IDEA IN EFFECT STILL, SO, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, SO, UM, THE APPLICANT IS SERVED. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, I GUESS, UM, SPEAKER CARDS FOR, UM, PROJECTS AND FAVORS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, BETTY, COME ON UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HI, I BETTY A ROADSHOW AND I'VE BEEN LIVING IN WEST COVINA IN MY HOME FOR 34 YEARS. 
          AND I'M ON THE WEST SIDE OF WHERE THIS PROJECT IS ON WORKMAN AND, UH, BEEN WORKING WITH MATT AND SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS, AND YOU'VE BEEN VERY FORTHCOMING AND TRYING TO LISTEN TO ALL OUR NEEDS, OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR OBJECTIVES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT A CAR DEALERSHIP BACK THERE. 
          WE DID WANT A, SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO IT. 
          AND I DIDN'T WANT SOMEBODY TO BE LOOKING OVER MY HOME, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, EVOLUTION, RIGHT. 
          BUT, UM, WITH THE TREES THAT ARE BEING PUT THERE ON OUR BEHALF, AND, UH, THERE'S A WALL THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT ALONG WITH THE WHOLE PERIMETER. 
          UM, IT'LL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COHESIVE AND MORE, MORE TOLERANT OF, OF HAVING TO ADJUST TO THE CHANGES. 
          UM, THE ONE PART THAT I STILL YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT IS, UH, THE HEIGHT THAT'S GOING TO BE FROM THE LEVEL OF MY PROPERTY TO WHERE THERE IS THIS GOING TO START, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT. 
          I JUST CAN'T, I CAN'T GET IT THROUGH MY HEAD WHERE, HOW HIGH THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE LOOKING OVER TO MY HOME. 
          UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU TO MATT FOR WORKING WITH US. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S IT. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU FOR COMING. 
          DO WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, RESIDENTS WHO COMING UP? COULD YOU PLEASE HELP US HAVE A PINK CARD LIKE THIS? OH, NO, IT'S OKAY. 
          IT'S RIGHT UP THERE WHEN YOU'RE DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MY NAME IS PEGGY DAVIS AND I BETTY'S NEIGHBOR, AND I'VE LIVED ON THE STREET FOR 27 YEARS AND MATT HAS BEEN GREAT. 
          HE HAS COME INTO MY BACKYARD. 
          I HAVE A 15 FOOT HIGH, I'M A SHRUBBERY RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I DON'T SEE THE SCHOOL. 
          I ALSO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL TREE, WHICH I'M GOING TO HAVE THEM REMOVE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE NEW WALL TO BREAK AND IT'S BROKEN MY WALL. 
          SO THEY ARE GIVING, HELPING US WITH THE NEW WALL. 
          AND, UM, HE'S BEEN GREAT. 
          HE'S, THEY'VE BEEN CALLING US, THEY'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH US. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE, I, WE APPROVE OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, WE'VE ALL GOTTEN TOGETHER IN, ON OUR STREET. 
          AND, UH, WE CAME UP WITH ALL THE TALL TREES AND, YOU KNOW, THE WINDOWS. 
          SO THEY CAN'T SEE INTO OUR PROPERTIES AND THINGS. 
          I MEAN, IN A PERFECT WORLD, IT WOULD STAY THE WAY IT IS. 
          CAUSE IT'S QUIET, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH PROBLEMS WITH NOISE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HMM. 
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE ANOTHER RESIDENCE WHO LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. 
          PLEASE COME UP IF I'M NOT, UM, WE'RE GONNA, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          HELLO. 
          MY NAME IS FIDEL MORRA AND, UM, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN A MAROTTA AS WELL. 
          ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HERE AND, UM, I APPROVE OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, I JUST HAD A FEW CONCERNS, WHICH YOU GUYS, THEY PROBABLY, UH, ADDRESSED IT. 
          THEY ADDRESSED IT TODAY, WHICH WAS BASICALLY THE PARKING AND THE PRIVACY, AND ALSO THE LIGHTING FROM, UM, FROM THE ACTUAL, UH, PARKING STRUCTURES THAT ARE THE PARKING SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. 
          UM, I JUST WOULDN'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTING TO COME STRAIGHT DIRECTLY TO MY BACKYARD. 
          LIKE I SAID, THE ISSUE WAS, YOU KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST WAS THE DEALERSHIP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NOW. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE THE RESIDENTIAL AND MATT HERE. 
          HE'S BEEN WONDERFUL WITH US. 
          HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH US AND, UM, BASICALLY I APPROVED THE PROJECT. 
          MY CONCERN, LIKE I SAID, IS THE OVERFLOW PARKING TO MAROTTA SIDE IN CASE, UH, SOMEBODY'S HAVING A GATHERING OR SOMETHING. 
          THEY DON'T FIT ALL THEIR CARS THERE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE OVERFLOWING TO THE MAROTTA SIDE AND, UH, BASICALLY THAT'S IT. 
          HMM. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANYONE ELSE, IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE. 
          OH, OH, THERE'S ONE MORE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          COME ON UP. 
          SO, UM, I'M IN, UH, AND WORKMAN AND I'M BEEN THERE FOR 50 YEARS. 
          SO, UM, MY MAIN CONCERN IS ALSO THE OVERFLOW PARKING. 
          WHEN THEY STARTED DOING CAL TAN'S INSTRUCTION, THEY PUSHED ALL THOSE APARTMENT DWELLERS TO FIND PARKING ELSEWHERE. 
          AND WHEN THAT STARTED HAPPENING, THAT'S WHAT I NOTICED THE CRIME RATE GOING UP BECAUSE WE CAN'T IDENTIFY THOSE NEW CARS THAT ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING APARTMENTS OR ARE STAKING OUR HOMES BEFORE THAT HAPPENED. 
          NOBODY PARKED IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. 
          NOW I HAVE PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY PARKING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. 
          AND I KNOW A LOT OF IT IS, I MEAN, FROM THOSE APARTMENTS, WHICH I FEAR WILL GET WORSE WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, ALSO I, WELL THAT YOU WILL ALSO CONSIDER PUTTING LOCKS ON THE GARBAGE THAT'S IN THE NEW COMPLEX, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO GO THROUGH HER APARTMENT COMPLEX IS LIKE THAT TO, TO GET, UM, RECYCLABLES. 
          AND SO YOU REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER MAKING THAT, NOT ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELONG IN THAT COMPLEX. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I, CAN WE GET YOUR, YOUR NAME AND ARE YOU FOR, OR AGAINST THE PROJECTS AT EVELYN WILBUR AND I'M FOR I'M FOR IT, IT'S BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE SEEING COMING AROUND AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE PEOPLE AROUND THERE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? IF I'M OKAY. 
          COME ON UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UH, UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF, CAN YOU PLEASE, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE HELP US FILL OUT A CARD STEW? YES, I'LL TAKE IT WITH ME. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          I, I I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER, UH, 10 27, WHICH IS FOR, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM, FROM THE, FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND MY CONCERN THAT I'M ECHOING SOME OF THE CONCERNS ALREADY. 
          MY, BUT MY IMMEDIATE CONCERN WOULD BE ON THE PARKING SITUATION. 
          UH, THE, THE, THE OVERFLOW OF PARKING, UH, PRESENTLY AS, AS MY NEIGHBOR POINTED OUT, UH, THAT HIS 3D ON WORKMAN KEEPS GETTING HEAVIER AND HEAVIER WITH, UH, WITH, UH, UH, WITH PARKING. 
          AND THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN BECAUSE SINCE THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN CLOSED, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TRASH COLLECTOR ON THE STREET. 
          AND, AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CARS THAT COME AND PARK, WHENEVER THERE'S A STREET SWEEPING, GOING ON, NOTHING GETS CLEAN, NOTHING GETS PICKED UP. 
          SO OUR STREET ON WORKMAN KEEPS GETTING THIRD YEAR IN THIRD YEAR. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE NEW PROJECT, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, PARKING FACILITIES. 
          THE OTHER THING WOULD BE THE LIGHTING STREET, LIGHTING THE STREET, THE STREET LIGHTING ON, ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          THERE, THERE IS, THERE IS LIGHTING, THERE SEEMS TO BE APPROPRIATE. 
          IT HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO LED 
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LIGHTS. 
          SO THE LIGHT HAS BEEN, UH, UH, BRIGHTER AT NIGHT, BUT, UH, PRESENTLY ON THE, ON THE SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, THERE, THERE IS NO LIGHTS AT ALL. 
          SO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE A STREET LIGHTING, UH, PROVIDED ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          WELL, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? UM, PLEASE COME UP. 
          I THANK YOU. 
          AND HELP US FILL UP A PINK CARD AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU, MONEY TO PENN, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. 
          I AM NOT ONE OF THE FAVORED ONES HERE. 
          I DO NOT LIVE 300 FEET FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          I LIVE ON HARTLEY STREET AND WE ARE NOT AVAILABLE OTHER THAN WE TAKE THE BURDEN OF ALL THE BAD PARKY. 
          MAROTTA HAS ENOUGH INTELLIGENCE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT PERMITS ON THEIR STREET. 
          SO THAT MEANS ALL OF THE APARTMENTS NOW PARK ON HARTLEY STREET. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO I DON'T SEE HOW THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HELP OVERFLOW OF PARKING AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GUYS, HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING ISSUE THAT THE CITY HAS IN THAT COMMUNITY. 
          UH, SO I DON'T KNOW, AND I DON'T SEE WHERE YOUR NUMBERS REFLECT. 
          THE FACT THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEW PROJECT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONFINE THEIR CARS TO THEIR, UH, LIMITED PARKING IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE 12 CARS THAT PARK ALONG THE GARVEY VINCENT AREA. 
          AND YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH THEM FURTHER DOWN TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO WIND UP ON HARTLEY STREET. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, HARTLEY STREET DOESN'T NEED AN ADDITIONAL 25 CARS TO BE PARKED THERE BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE WORKMAN ANYMORE AND THEY WON'T HAVE THE GARVEY ANYMORE. 
          SO EVERYBODY IS GOING AND THEY DON'T HAVE MAROTTA, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T HAD SINCE MAROTTA GOT SMART. 
          SO WORK OR HEARTBEAT STREET IS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THIS PLAN IS A GOOD IDEA. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE IF THE CITY RIGHT IN MAYBE A CHURCH AND UTILIZE THE LAND FOR A CHURCH INSTEAD, AND THE BACK END OF THAT PROPERTY TO BE WORKED OUT WITH THE, UH, OWNERS OF THE OLD DEPARTMENTS FOR THEIR ADDITIONAL PARKING, SINCE THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH LETTING THEIR PR THEIR RESIDENTS PARK ANYWHERE THEY WANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN YOU PLEASE SPELL UP A CARD FOR US PEN? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYONE WHO LIKED TO COME UP TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT? ANYONE ELSE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE. 
          SO LET'S, UM, THEN GOES TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE, UM, ANY RESIDENT WHO LIKED TO COME UP TO SPEAK POSE OF THE PROJECT. 
          OH, YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE HEARD YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE, IF, UM, IF NOT, UM, CAN THE APPLICANT, UM, COME UP AND BE, AND SO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS QUESTIONS PLEASE, WELL, FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO WHO'S SPOKE, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR AND AGAINST THE PROJECT. 
          I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, UM, UH, IN TERMS OF LIGHTING IN TRACKED, UM, UH, FIDELITY. 
          I, I, WE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH EACH OTHER. 
          UM, SO HE, HE, HIS CONCERN WAS, UM, HOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES, UM, UH, ADJACENT TO HIS HOUSE. 
          HIS CONCERN WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IS, IS THE STREET LIGHTING GOING TO BE SHINING ONTO HIS PROPERTY. 
          AND, UM, I VERIFIED WITH OUR, OUR ARCHITECT, UM, AND WE ARE ONLY PROVIDING A 14 FOOT TALL, UM, UH, LIGHT THAT'S SHINING DOWN. 
          AND WITH THE, UH, ADJACENT TREES, WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE PORT OF CORPUS TREES. 
          AND, AND 
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THEN WE HAVE, WE'VE SPECIFIED, UH, 15 FOOT TALL TREES FOR THE SECOND ROW OF TREES NEXT TO HIM AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST LINING THAT THING UP WITH, WITH AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, AND, AND IT, IT SOUNDED LIKE AFTER WORKING WITH HIM, THAT, THAT HE WAS, HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH THAT DESIGN SOLUTION. 
          UM, ARE YOU, I'M SORRY, ARE YOU TALKING ON THE WORKMAN AVENUE AREA? IT'S IT'S, UH, HIS HOUSE IS KINDA MIDWAY THROUGH, HE HE'S ON THE WEST ON MAROTTA. 
          UM, AND SO IT'S, HE, HIS, HIS HOUSE IS, IS WHERE ONE OF THE PARKING STALL KIND OF THERE'S LIKE THREE OR FOUR PARKING STALLS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO THERE'S, THERE'S ONE STREET LIGHT, IT'S 14 FEET TALL, AND IT'S LOWER THAN, THAN THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE TREES THAT ARE ADJACENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, OVERFLOW PARKING, THAT WAS THE MAIN COMMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PROJECT WAS, IS, IS, IS PARKED RIGHT NOW AT, AT 2.6, UM, TRADITIONAL CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS, PARKS, UH, 2.25. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, THIS IS THE MOST, UH, WE'RE PROVIDING THE MOST AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT WE HAVE EVER IN, IN FOR A CONDOMINIUM PROJECT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OVERFLOW PARKING SPECIFICALLY ON, ON WORKMAN IN, IN THE ADJACENT STREETS. 
          I DUNNO IF MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT THE CITY CAN HELP FACILITATE TO, UH, EXPEDITE A PERMIT SYSTEM FOR THE ADJACENT STREETS AS WELL. 
          SO THAT THERE, WE KIND OF ELIMINATE THAT, THAT ISSUE ALTOGETHER, SPECIFICALLY ON, ON WORKMAN. 
          UM, JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          UM, EXTRA PARKING DO WE HAVE IN THIS PROJECT, THE TOTAL, HOW MANY EXTRA PARKING DO WE HAVE? SO IN TERMS OF PARKING, WE'D HAVE, UH, 47 ONSITE GUEST PARKING STALLS, AND THEN THERE'S 21 SPOTS ON WORKMAN, UM, AS WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CURRENTLY THERE, BUT THERE'S ALSO 21 PARALLEL SPOTS ON WORKMAN. 
          SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 68 SPOTS THAT ARE WAIT 21. 
          PARKING SPOTS IS ON WORKMAN. 
          BASICALLY THOSE ARE STREET PARKING THAT'S ON, IT'S ON WORK, MAN, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? IT, IT, IT IS, IT IS NOT, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE FRONTAGE OF, OF OUR PROJECT, SO, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BUT REALLY, UM, FOR THE GUEST PARKING, THE TOTAL IS 47  IN THE PROJECT, CORRECT? RIGHT. 
          UM, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, GARBAGE CONTAINERS THAT, UH, COMMENT WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN OUR CCNRS THAT REQUIRE THE COMMENT WAS MAYBE WE HAVE LOCKED GARBAGE CONTAINERS. 
          UM, WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN OUR CCNRS THAT, UM, THAT WOULD REQUIRE HOMEOWNERS TO BRING OUT THE TRASH CANS, UH, ON TRASH DAY. 
          AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD WHERE THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THOSE. 
          THEY HAVE TO BRING THOSE TRASH CANS BACK IN. 
          THERE'S ONLY, IT'S ONLY THOSE TRASH CANS ARE ONLY ACTUALLY OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE TRASH DAY. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE, THEY THERE, THEY HAVE TO BE BROUGHT IN OR ELSE, YOU KNOW, FINDS THEIR OWN POST FOR THAT, FOR THAT HOA. 
          BUT I THINK, UM, I'M SORRY, I JUST, UM, I THINK TRADITIONALLY YOU PULL OUT THE TRASH AT NIGHT TIME AND THEN IN THE MORNING, THAT'S WHEN THEY COME AND TAKE THE TRASH AWAY. 
          BUT I THINK THE NEIGHBORS CONCERN IS REALLY WHEN YOU PULL THE TRASH OUT, THERE ARE TRANSIT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT COME AND TRY TO COLLECT SOME OF THE COLLECTIBLE BOTTLES OR CANS, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THEY CAN MAKE A MESS. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITY THEY'LL BUILD LIKE THIS A LOT OF TIME. 
          IT'S WHAT IT'S, IT'S GATED THAT CAN PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. 
          I MEAN, GATED IT JUST BY HAVING A LITTLE GATE WITH A REMOTE. 
          SO ANYONE WHO LIVES IN THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A REMOTE IN ORDER TO COME IN OR A KEY OF SOME SORT IN ORDER TO GO INTO THE PROPERTY. 
          I SEE. 
          AND ALSO ANOTHER THING IS THAT IT MIGHT HELP WITH SOME PARKING IF THE RESIDENT NEED A REMOTE AND A KEY. 
          SO REALLY ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE CAN ENTER AND PARK IN THEIR OWN SPACE. 
          SO THEY TEND TO STAY WITHIN THEIR OWN WISH FOR THAT. 
          SO I A HUNDRED. 
          YEAH, NO. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          UM, WE, WE PREPARED A, A, UH, TRASH MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT HAS, UH, BEEN APPROVED BY ATHENS, UH, TRASH. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE THE WILL SERVER WILL SERVE LETTER FROM THEM AS WELL. 
          UM, THEY'VE, THEY'VE SIGNED OFF ON, ON OUR TRASH PROPOSAL. 
          THEY SAID THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE THE ROUTE. 
          AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN TERMS OF, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF LOCKING IT UP, HAVING IT IS REALLY A TRASH ENCLOSURE. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF AN APARTMENT TYPE SOLUTION. 
          UM, AND WE, WE DID LOOK INTO THE FEASIBILITY OF, OF HAVING TRASH ENCLOSURES. 
          IT'S IT? WE WOULD REQUIRE BECAUSE OF THE 
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TYPE OF COMMUNITY WE'D, WE'D BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE EIGHT ENCLOSURES, WHICH IN EACH ENCLOSURE TAKES TWO PARKING STALLS. 
          I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO TAKE AWAY PARKING AT THIS POINT. 
          SO FOR US, IT, IT, I THINK IT REALLY MAKES SENSE FOR US TO, TO, UH, STICK WITH THE TRASH PLAN THAT WE HAVE, UM, RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF LIGHTING, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, STREET LIGHTING ON WORKMAN. 
          WE, WE ARE PROVIDING STREET LIGHTING ON WORKMAN. 
          UM, WE ARE INSTALLING THAT. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, UM, THAT THAT WAS THE, THE MAIN POINTS AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY OH, OH, SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          WITH, WITH REGARD TO STREET LIGHTING ON INCENT, IS THAT BEING PROVIDED AS WELL, STREET LIGHTING ON VINCENT? UM, YES. 
          YES. 
          WE WILL BE PROVIDING STREETLIGHT. 
          SHOW ME IF, IF WE LOOK AT, AT THIS WHERE'S THE LOCATION AND WHAT IS THE SORT OF DESIGN OF THE LIGHTING, THE STREET TO HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT? OR IS IT LIGHTING? OKAY. 
          I, I THINK WE, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A S UH, STREET LIGHTING PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD. 
          PULL THAT UP. 
          I HAD A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION IN PORTRAYING. 
          UM, CURRENTLY I THINK THAT ACCORDING TO HIM IN FRONT OF HER, WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING CURRENTLY THAT PARKING LOT ON WORKING RIGHT NOW IS COMPLETELY DARK, UM, IS PUDDING. 
          UM, THEY'RE PORTABLE, WHICH THEY SAW AT HOME DEPOT, MAYBE FOUR PORTABLE SOLAR PANEL LEDS ON ONE OF THE CURRENT POLES THERE, IS THAT SOMETHING POSSIBLE? SO, UH, POLICING HAS, UH, OUR LOCAL POLICE COULD SEE DO THAT PARKING LOT. 
          IF, IF THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE PASSING BY, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH STAFF TO IN THERE, LIKE MAYBE 200 BUCKS EACH OR SOMETHING IT'S REALLY, REALLY . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH STAFF TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THAT'S FEASIBLE, BUT ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE STREET LIGHTING PLAN IS UP ON THE SCREEN AND, OR THE LIGHTING PLAN FOR THE PROJECT IS UP ON THE SCREEN. 
          THERE'S AN EXISTING STREET LIGHT NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF VINCENT WORKMAN. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO ONE MID-BLOCK DOWN HERE ON VINCENT THERE'S A SERIES OF STREET LIGHTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WORKMAN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN AT YOUR SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING MORE STREET LIGHTS ALONG WORKMAN AND ALONG VINCENT BOTH. 
          OR ARE YOU JUST RELYING ON EXISTING STREET LIGHTS PLUS THE NEW SORT OF WALL LIGHTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR THE PROJECT? YEAH. 
          I, I BELIEVE THAT WE WERE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT STREET LIGHTS, IF ANY, NEED TO BE ADDED, OR, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT IMPROVEMENT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT IN OUR PRIOR TO FINAL MAP. 
          DO WE KNOW HOW MANY, UH, OKAY. 
          CAN YOU BRING THAT UP BACK? WE'RE GOING TO BE ON VISIT. 
          SO, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, I, I BELIEVE YOU JUST, YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, TWO ON VINCENT DE STANDARD SPACE FOR THE FIRST DAY STANDARD. 
          UM, AND IF WE DETERMINE THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER, UM, WE CAN EXACTLY HOW MANY ARE NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN WE ZOOM IN THERE? ARE I JUST, I ALREADY LOOKED THERE THERE'S TWO EXISTING STREET LIGHTS ON THE PROJECT SIDE OF, OF VINCENT. 
          UM, TYPICALLY WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL STREET LIGHTS WOULD BE HANDLED DURING THE PLAN CHECK PROCESS BY, BY EITHER, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS OR, AND, OR FIRE AND POLICE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE LIGHTING FOR THE SITE. 
          YEAH. 
          FAIR, FAIR ENOUGH. 
          JUST MAKING SURE WE DON'T. 
          YEAH, BUT, UH, I'M SORRY. 
          ALSO STAFF, I'M ALSO THINKING STREETLIGHTS ARE NOT REQUIRE PER SE. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY DETERMINED CALTRAN OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PACIFIC PLANNED AND WHAT NO. 
          OH, STREETLIGHTS TYPICALLY THERE'S A CITY STANDARD THAT THE CITY ADHERES TO WHEN THEY, WHEN THE PROJECT COMES IN FOR ACTUAL BUILDING PERMITS THROUGH THE PLAN CHECK PROCESS. 
          SO THEY'LL REVIEW THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY HAD INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND GET AN IDEA, BUT THE ACTUAL NUMBER AND THE ACTUAL LOCATION AND PLACEMENT TYPICALLY IS HANDLED DURING A PLAN CHECK PROCESS. 
          IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU KNOW, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THAT SURE. 
          THAT THERE ARE STREETLIGHTS ARE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          CAUSE I'VE JUST NOTICED THAT, UM, AS YOU DRIVE AROUND, NOT ALL AREA HAS STREET LIGHT, SO THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. 
          AND I, AND I THINK EVEN MORE CLARIFICATION WITH REGARD TO THE LIGHTING, IS THE LIGHTING GOING TO BE 
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INWARD FACING OR THE DEVELOPMENT, OR IS IT GOING TO BE FACING TOWARD THE STREET? HOW WAS THAT GOING TO BE? YEAH, THIS WOULD BE FOR STREET LIGHTING SPECIFICALLY, ANY ADDITIONAL LIGHTING OR THE SIDEWALK AREA, WHAT WOULD COVER THAT AREA THAT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, AN AREA OF POTENTIAL. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A PUBLIC SIDEWALK AS OF RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROVIDE MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S ATTACHED TO THE, UM, IF THE LIGHTS ARE, DOUBLE-SIDED KIND OF, I MEAN, LIKE, LIKE THAT DESIGN, BUT, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          IT'S THE THING. 
          I, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE, UH, A BETTER FRANKLY, A BETTER LOOK, MORE MODERN LOOK IN THAT AREA FOR ONE TO BUY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A DOUBLE SECURITY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND ON THE SIDEWALK. 
          I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT PERSONALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE. 
          UM, AND I, I WAS GONNA, I WAS GONNA ASK, UM, NO, I, I THINK, UH, I, I THINK I HAVE SOME JUST GENERAL CONCERNS ABOUT SECURITY IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS CURIOUS IS IF YOU'VE EVER DEVELOPED ANY PROJECT WITH THE IDEA OF HAVING CCTV OPTIONS FOR EACH UNIT, I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, IT MAY MAKE SOME SENSE TO DO THAT. 
          THIS, THIS PARTICULAR, OBVIOUSLY YOU HOPE THE PROPERTY VALUES IN THIS AREA INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY, AND IT'S A BUNCH OF FIVE STAR RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL OF THAT WOULD, WOULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT TIME, UM, IF, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S EVEN EVER HAPPENS. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN AND MAYBE IT WOULD GIVE, UH, SINCE THE COST OF SECURITY, UM, IN THAT AREA WOULD BE POTENTIALLY COST PROHIBITIVE FROM A, AN HOA STANDPOINT. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE JUST, UH, SORT OF HAVE THOSE HOOKUPS THERE SO THAT RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO, IF THEY WANT TO USE RING, IF THEY WANT TO USE WHATEVER THERE ARE READY TO GO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I DO KNOW THAT IN, IN PAST COMMUNITIES WE HAVE MADE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE A DEAL WITH THE RING COMPANY WHERE WE WOULD PROVIDE RING CAMERAS FOR EACH OF THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          UM, AND, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I'M EVEN TALKING ABOUT LIKE, LIKE IN THE, UH, IN THE OPEN SPACE AREA, AREAS CALLS TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THEIR TRASH OUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT IS A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND WE CAN FIND OUT WHO IT IS WHO'S CAUSING A PROBLEM. 
          NOW, THERE CAN BE A, THERE COULD, THERE COULD BE THESE THINGS FORWARDED TO POLICE AND, AND, AND WHATNOT, SO THAT A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND I AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK MAYBE LIKE A CC THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE, AND WE'D HAVE TO CONFIRM THE PRICING FOR THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE MORE CHEAPER OPTIONS IN TERMS OF SECURITY. 
          AND SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE TO HAVE A SECURITY GUARD THERE 24 SEVEN. 
          BUT YEAH, I'M CERTAINLY NOT, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY SURVEILLANCE STATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          REALISTICALLY, GIVEN, GIVEN THE AREA, IT, IT MAY MAKE SOME SENSE TO DO THAT HERE. 
          NOW. 
          IT MAY NOT BE A FOREVER THING. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M WILLING, IT'S NOT. 
          YEAH, NO, IT, IT IS A CONCERN RIGHT NOW THAT I SEE. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          I'M NOT SURE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOOK TO POTENTIALLY BUY THESE THINGS WOULD PROBABLY SEE THAT IT'S WELL, YEAH. 
          AND WHAT I, WHAT I, THEY ASK US IS, YOU KNOW, IF THIS, IF THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, IF YOU WANT, WE COULD ADD A CONDITION FOR US TO, UH, LOOK AT THAT AS A, AS A S AS A SOLUTION TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE CCTV. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD POTENTIAL SOLUTION FOR US. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT COST PROHIBITIVE OR, OR ANOTHER COST EFFICIENT. 
          UM, I THINK IN OTHER WAY, WE COULD DO TO AN IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, I KNOW IS, UM, CAUSE I KNOW SOME HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAVE RULES THAT PROHIBIT CCTV BEING INSTALLED IN SOME OF THEIR UNITS. 
          SO, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IF, IF LET'S SAY WE DO YOU GUYS DETERMINE THAT HAVING A CLOUD CAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO DO THIS AND WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE A CLOUD SYSTEM, UH, CAUSE THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD PUT A HARD DRIVE OUTSIDE. 
          SO WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE, A CLOUD SYSTEM. 
          UM, IS THERE A WAY TO RECOMMEND, RECOMMEND THAT IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S PUBLIC ACCESS THAT HOMEOWNERS WILL HAVE, UH, THE OP THE AUTHORITY UNDER THE HOMEOWNERS APPROVAL TO INSTALL CCTV AREAS WITHOUT INVADING THE PRIVACY OF OTHER NEIGHBORS? YEAH. 
          THAT WOULD BE A 
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GREAT ADDITION TO THAT, TO THAT CONDITION IF YOU WANT IT TO ADD IT, I THINK. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US? OKAY. 
          NO. 
          AND JUST ONE MORE QUESTION ONE, JUST TO CONFIRM THE, UM, THE HOMES ON, UM, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF VINCENT. 
          SO ON THE ONE, THE, THE, THE BRICK WALL, RIGHT. 
          ADJACENT TO THE HOMES. 
          THAT'S HOW, HOW HO, SORRY, HOW HIGH IS THAT GOING TO BE? IT'S GOING TO BE SIX FEET TALL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, UH, AND THE HOUSING WALL. 
          SURE. 
          HOUSING. 
          THIS IS A FIVE FOOT SIX VINYL BOUNCE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU, MATT. 
          LET ME HAVE A QUICK QUESTION THOUGH. 
          SOME OF THE COMMISSIONER EARLIER HAD TALKED ABOUT ON A GARVEY AREA WITH A SOUND. 
          SO IF, UM, IF, IF WE'RE ENTERTAINING IS TO INCREASE THAT AREA JUST ON THE, THE CURVE AREA, THE GARVEY CLOSER TO THE FREEWAY, UM, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF INCREASING THE WALL HEIGHT, INCREASING THE WALL HEIGHTS? SINCE IT'S A BLOCK WALL ALREADY, IT MIGHT HELP WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SOUND BECAUSE A LITTLE SITTING AREA IN THE PARK AREA, IN THAT AREA ABSOLUTELY. 
          IN THAT PARTICULAR CURVED ON GARVEY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK IT'S A GOOD SOLUTION. 
          UM, UH, SO WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO AMEND OUR SPECIFIC PLAN, UM, TO INCREASE THE, THE WALL HEIGHT TO SEVEN FEET OR, OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT HEIGHT. 
          UM, AND YEAH, WE COULD, WE COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL TO HEAR. 
          ALSO, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          I WAS BICKERING THE, UM, THE WALLS, WHICH IS, I UNDERSTAND THE UNDER EVENTS IN AVENUE AREA IS A LITTLE PORCH WALL. 
          AND THEN IT'S, UM, NORMALLY BECAUSE OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE NORMALLY TRY TO KEEP IT UNDER 30 OR 42 INCHES MOST CITY. 
          SO, I MEAN, I, I GUESS THAT LOOKS JUST TO ME, I THINK THAT LOOKS REALLY NICE. 
          JUST DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND YOU SEE SOME LITTLE PORT, UH, PORCH AREA. 
          IT JUST MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, INCLUSIVE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          HOWEVER, UM, REGARDING THE GATE, I'M JUST HAVING CURIOUS, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR WHY YOU GUYS ARE NOT WELL PROVIDING THE FACT THAT ON WORK MEN, IT MIGHT PREVENT A LOT OF THE, WHAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS CONCERN, AND ALSO, UM, PARENTS, SOME OF THE TRANSIT PEOPLE GOING INTO THE PROPERTY. 
          I'M NOT SURE, BUT ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY THE GATES OR NOT RECOMMENDED AT, UH, WORK BECAUSE THERE'S SOME COMMUNITY THAT YOU SEE GATES WITH THE MODES. 
          SO WHENEVER THE RESIDENT WANT TO COME IN, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO, THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN GO INTO THE COMMUNITY IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REMOTE OR, OR SOME TYPE OF KEY TO GET IN ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY THEY GET, WHAT'S NOT PROPOSED FOR WORKMAN AND ALSO AT THE GARVEY AREA. 
          I MEAN, THAT MIGHT RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS OR, OR QUESTIONS. 
          AND THEN ALSO THE NEIGHBORS, THE, THE, THE GATED SOLUTION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE TOUCHED ON IT EARLIER, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE SOME COMPLICATIONS WITH THE DESIGN. 
          YOU STILL NEED A TURNAROUND. 
          UM, IT'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH, WITH QUEUING, UH, FOR THE CARS, IF, IF SAY THREE OR FOUR CARS IS 5:00 PM AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET INTO THE COMMUNITY, SUDDENLY YOU HAVE A GATED COMMUNITY THERE, THERE, THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN ISSUE WITH QUEUING. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL STUFF THAT, THAT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, AT THIS PROJECT, UM, ALSO WE'RE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF. 
          IT, IT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DIRECTION REALLY WAS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT HAVE A, A GATED COMMUNITY OF POSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP, UH, THE COMMUNITY FEELING OPEN AND, AND WALKABLE AND, YOU KNOW, UM, CONNECTED WITH, WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE AREN'T A LOT OF, UH, I MEAN, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY GATED COMMUNITIES SPECIFICALLY IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, SO IT, IT, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH THE AREA, UH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, OF THE GARVEY ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID EXPLORE THAT. 
          IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST A QUESTION IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US LOOK AT, WE WOULD JUST NEED TO WORK WITH FIRE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT GATE, UH, IS OKAY TO ACTUALLY INSTALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUT YEAH. 
          UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON YOUR COLOR PALETTE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE IT IS. 
          THERE'S SO MANY PAGES OF HERE. 
          DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHICH COLOR PALETTE THE ROOF? OH, THERE IT IS. 
          FOUND IT, UH, PAGE THREE, TWO 13. 
          OKAY. 
          WE, WE PULL THAT UP. 
          THIS IS ON THE PROJECT. 
          I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO BE PHASED. 
          SORRY. 
          WE'RE JUST PULLING IT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
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JUST WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO PAGE THREE OF 13. 
          THAT WOULD BE, OH, THE, OH, OKAY. 
          HERE'S THIS HANDOUT, THE COLOR, COLOR SCHEME. 
          REAL BOARD. 
          IT'S THE COLOR MATERIAL INDIVIDUAL FOR THE DETACHED, I BELIEVE SO. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THERE ANY WAY, BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR TILE, IT ONLY SAID S TILE, BUT WHAT TYPE OF TILE THEY ARE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ROOF? A ROOF, CORRECT? YES. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, UH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A CONCRETE, UH, TILE. 
          IT'S CONCRETE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          PINE CREEK. 
          AND THEN THE STUCCO, THIS PARTICULAR STUCCO, IT'S PRETTY ROUGH. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT TO LOOK A LITTLE SMOOTHER? NO, FOR SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, IS A, UH, 16, 20 STUCCO IT'S IT'S, UH, IT'S IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S SMOOTH, PRETTY INDUSTRY STANDARD STUCCO. 
          UM, YOU CAN MAKE IT BETTER TO BOOT YOU LIKE A 30, 30 SAND OR SOMETHING. 
          IT'S A LOT SMOOTHER BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DRIVING, IT'S THAT, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS PRETTY CLOSE, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SIDE, WHEN SCENT AND WORKMAN, IT IS PRETTY CLOSE. 
          IT'S ONLY 10 FEET IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. 
          SO WITH A STUCCOED, THIS, UM, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN TERMS OF BUILDING WHY YOU CAN SEE IT. 
          IF SOMEONE'S SITTING THERE WITH DRIVING BY THE ONLY THING I'D ASK IS, IS IT POSSIBLE JUST TO MAKE THAT CONDITION SPECIFIC FOR THOSE HOMES? UM, THAT WOULD BE, YEAH. 
          THEN, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT, AT, UM, MAKING MORE OF A, WE COULD DO A, UM, A 20, 30 STUCCO, WHICH IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AROUND AT, UH, IT'S, IT'S A SMOOTHER, CORRECT. 
          IT IS SAN FINISHED, SO, BUT IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER. 
          SO THIS WAY, WHEN YOU, IT LOOKS AT IT, GIVE IT A LOOK A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          I THINK THIS IS A HIGHER VALUE LOOK, ACTUALLY. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          UM, I THINK IT IS, I THINK IT ACTUALLY INCREASED THE PROPERTY VALUE AROUND THERE, PUTTING A MORE CHEAPER ONE DINNER ONCE WE'LL MAKE IT LOOK UGLY. 
          OKAY. 
          COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO HIM THIS TYPE OF STUFF GOES, UM, TO COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, THIS IS A 1630, UH, 30, 30 STUCCO. 
          IT'S A MUCH SMOOTHER AND MUCH MORE BUILT, A BETTER BUILDING MATERIALS VERSUS A COMPLETELY FLAT AND SMOOTH STUCCO IS THE TOP OF THE NOTCH TYPE OF STUCCO. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST SAY, I MEAN, I, UM, I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WITH A LOT OF SPANISH AND SANTA BARBARA HOMES AND, UM, UH, I DO SEE THE 16, 20 STUCCO A LOT. 
          AND FROM WHEN I'M WALKING ACROSS, YOU KNOW, UH, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE UNTIL YOU'RE LIKE RIGHT UP AGAINST IT. 
          UM, OR UNLESS YOU'RE THAT HOMEOWNER. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU PAID THAT MUCH MORE BECAUSE IT IS, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALL THIS IS REALLY DOING IS INCREASING THE PRICE OF THE HOME, UM, WHICH MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT LESS ATTAINABLE, JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT, BUT I, I DO, I DO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND WE CAN ASK THEM SAYING THAT BECAUSE THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE PACKING A LOT OF HOME IN THERE AND WE'RE NOT GIVING THE TRADITIONAL 20, 25 FEET FRONTAGE. 
          WE ONLY HAVE NO MORE THAN 10 FEET IN SOME AREAS IT'S ONLY FIVE FEET. 
          SO IT'S A LOT CLOSER TO YOUR EYES, COMPLETELY AGREE, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER MATERIALS THAT LASTS AND, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT CITY CITY OF WHAT'S COMING UP, ESPECIALLY THE SOUSA EXIT, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S HEAVILY, IT'S A HEAVY TRAFFIC, A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU CAN GO, YOU KNOW, THE 60 AND THE 16, THE TWO 10 BOTH WAY. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND THAT GIVES US A GOOD IMPRESSION. 
          ALSO, JUST ALONG THE FREEWAY AREA. 
          UM, AS WE MOVED ON TO THE OTHER AREA, WE GUARDING THE BUILDINGS, THE ROOFING MATERIALS. 
          CAN YOU EXPLAIN, CAUSE THIS IS A CONCRETE AS TILE. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER BUILDING MATERIALS? CAN YOU GO THROUGH THEM? CAUSE I CAN'T REALLY TELL THESE. 
          I CAN'T. 
          UM, IF YOU GO ONTO THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS PAGE THREE OF 14. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS, UM, AREA I'M GONNA ASK MY ARCHITECT BECAUSE HE'S WONDERFUL. 
          HE'S GOING TO KNOW THIS, THIS, UH, THIS WORLD A LOT BETTER THAN ME. 
          UM, CURIOUS, THANK YOU. 
          HI, GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS JEFF ADDISON WITH KEVIN CROOK ARCHITECTS. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THESE. 
          SO, UM, SO AS FAR AS THE COASTAL STYLE GOES, SO THERE ARE THOSE, UM, AS FAR AS THE ROOFING MATERIAL GOES, THAT'S ALL CONCRETE, FLAT ROOFING, UM, STUCCO. 
          UM, I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT. 
          I THINK INITIALLY WE HAD PUT TOGETHER A, UM, A MATERIALS BOARD, 
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A PHYSICAL BOARD. 
          THESE ARE WHAT WE KIND OF CALL DIGITAL COLOR BOARDS. 
          UM, AND WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THAT PHYSICAL COLOR BOARD, IT WAS BACK IN OCTOBER, ENDED UP, UM, KIND OF EVOLVING A LITTLE BIT AND ADDING SOME MORE VENEERS. 
          UM, SO THE COASTAL, WE ENDED UP ADDING THE STONE VENEER THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THERE. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST STAY COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ADJACENT AND TRIED TO PICK MATERIALS THAT WE FEEL WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALL THOSE ROPING MATERIALS ARE CONCRETE MATERIAL, WHETHER IT'S THE S TILE OR THE ONE THAT YOU JUST SHOW US ALL. 
          SO IF WE WERE TO LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, ALL THE TOP OF THE ROPE HAS BASICALLY CONCRETE MATERIALS. 
          YES. 
          BUT IT WILL BE A VARIETY. 
          SO YOU'LL HAVE THE, THE, UM, SPANISH, THE SANTA BARBARA STYLE, IT'S MORE OF A BARREL TILE. 
          SO IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT PROFILE TO IT. 
          THE CONCRETE STUFF, THEY ARE CONCRETE. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST FOR DURABILITY. 
          UM, THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO SAY TO YOU ABOUT STUCCO IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 2030, IT DEFINITELY LOOKS GREAT, ESPECIALLY ON LIKE CUSTOM HOMES. 
          BUT WHAT WE DO FIND OVER TIME IS THAT IT LOOKS GREAT ON DAY ONE, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE 10 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, YOU START TO SEE THOSE CRACKS, WHICH IS WHY IT HAS THAT STUCCO HAS A TEXTURE TO IT, TO KIND OF COVER UP ANY OF THE CRACKS AND SETTLING KIND OF OVERTIME. 
          SO THE 16, 20 WE FOUND KIND OF HISTORICALLY OVER TIME THAT THAT SEEMS TO WORK BETTER. 
          UM, AND THEN ONE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WHEN THIS KIND OF REQUEST HAPPENS IS SOMETIMES WITH THE, WITH THE WINDOW TRIM, YOU COULD DO MORE OF A 20, 30 FINISH ON THE TRIM WORK AS WELL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WINDOW AND DOOR TRIM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO YOU STILL GET THAT REALLY NICE, YOU KNOW, SMOOTH TEXTURE, BUT IT'S IN MORE STRATEGIC LOCATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER BUILDING AND LASTS A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
          AND I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR, THESE BUILDINGS ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE STREET. 
          YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE VERSUS TRADITIONALLY THE NORMAL HOME WE HAVE IN WEST COVINA IS LIKE A 20, 30 FEET SETBACK. 
          SO ANY TYPE OF STUCCO THAT YOU USE BECAUSE 20 FEET AWAY, YOU TEND TO SEE THAT IT'S PRETTY SMOOTH, NO MATTER WHAT. 
          SO IN THIS CASE, I'M JUST ASKING TO GIVE US A BETTER MATERIALS, BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE APPROVED WHEN IT'S VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE STREET, YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH. 
          SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE HIGHER QUALITY CIRCLE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE NOT SOME TIME THAT THERE ARE HAIRLINE CRACKS, EVEN THOUGH THE 16, WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU STILL GET CRACKS. 
          WE'RE LIVING SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, IT'S EARTHQUAKE COUNTRY. 
          SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GIVEN, BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK AND CONFIRM REGARDING THE ROOF MATERIALS, IF YOU CAN HELP ME EXPLAIN. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY ALL THE ROOF ON THESE BUILDINGS ARE CONCRETE TYPE OF ROOF MATERIALS, WHETHER IT'S FLAT OR S TILES, IT'S PRETTY MUCH YOU NEED JUST FLUSH THEN I THINK ON THE THREE-STORY AREN'T THEY USING COMPOSITION SHINGLES, GAF, TIMBERLINE, LOOK AT THAT. 
          I REALLY LIKED THE FACT THAT YOU PICK UP THE CONCRETE TILES IT'S IT DOES LAST. 
          AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE COMING OUT OF, UH, OF, OF, OF THE, ON A BUSY STREET, THE BUILDING IS ON PAGE THREE, DASH 32. 
          I'M SORRY, WHAT PAGE IS IT AGAIN? UM, THREE DASH 32 IT'S EXHIBIT THREE 13. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE COMPOSITION AREN'T THEY? IT IS GOING TO BE THE GAF TIMBERLINE, RIGHT. 
          WHICH IS THE DICKER DIMENSIONAL. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I MISSPOKE. 
          NO, THAT'S OKAY. 
          DASH 32. 
          HOW MANY BUILDINGS ARE MADE OUT OF THESE TYPE OF MATERIALS? ARE THERE THE, ALL THE 10 UNITS? NOT THAT MANY OF YOU, WELL, AS FAR AS THE, UH, SO THE COMPOSITION SHINGLE WOULD BE USED FOR THE ROOFING FOR THE TOWNHOMES AND THEN THE CONCRETE TILES WOULD BE USED FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, WHETHER IT'S THE BARREL TILE OR THE FLAT TILE. 
          HMM. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M, UM, I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I LIKED FOR, BECAUSE THIS IS AN AREA THAT IT'S GONNA LAST, LIKE TO SEE IF YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK INTO OR CONSIDER USING BETTER MATERIALS FOR EVEN THE TOWNHOME AS WELL, TO BUILD IT. 
          ARE YOU SUGGESTING YOU WOULD PREFER TO HAVE CONCRETE LAT TILES FOR THE, UM, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE AN ON THE CONDO AREA. 
          THAT'S REAL QUICK. 
          SO, UM, WE, WE ACTUALLY JUST WENT THROUGH THIS, UH, UH, FOR ANOTHER PROJECT, UM, IN LA COUNTY AND, UM, WELL, WE ENDED UP DOING IT. 
          WE, WE DID HAVE 
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THAT CONCRETE, UM, UH, TILE, BUT FOR THE, FOR THE TOWNHOMES SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE SLOPE OF THE ROOF, WE ENDED UP HAVING TO, IT W IT WOULD ALMOST BE LIKE A DOUBLE ROOF SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAVE A COMPOSITION SHINGLE, AND THEN THE TILE ON TOP OF IT. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WE'RE GOING TO REVERT BACK TO THE COMPOSITION SINGLE SHINGLE, BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE OF THE, OF THE TOWNHOME, UM, SLOPE AS A TOWNHOME, I THOUGHT IT'S FOUR, FOUR FOURTH OR FIFTH OR, OR 12. 
          WE'RE SORRY, WE'RE JUST LOOKING IT UP REAL QUICK. 
          THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD HIS DOUBLE ROOFING ON A, I DUNNO. 
          YEAH. 
          I, IF, IF, UH, IF WE WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, UH, THE CONCRETE TILE, IS IT THE WEIGHT MAINLY IT'S, IT'S A FOUR AND 12 PITCH. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S VERY, IT'S A VERY COMMON PITCH, FOUR AND 12. 
          I MEAN, EVERYWHERE YOU GO IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, IT'S PRACTICALLY FOUR 12. 
          AND, UM, IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE IF YOU CAN INCORPORATE THE CONCRETE TILE OR A BETTER TILE, THAT WOULD LAST WITH TIME AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THINK OF THE HOME, ROUGHLY HOW MUCH MORE WERE THOSE CONVOS INCREASE IN PRICE IF YOU WERE TO PROVIDE THAT MORE EXPENSIVE OR OPTION? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SO HARD TO TELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN, WHEN WE ACTUALLY SELL THESE, UM, AS DESIGNED, THE TOWNHOMES ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE, UH, HIGH FIVES, UH, WITH THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO BE IN THE HIGHEST SIX AS US THAT'S AS DESIGN. 
          UM, I, I KNOW IN TERMS OF, UH, I CAN'T SAY I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT BECAUSE WE JUST WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET CLOSER TO THAT, THAT TIME. 
          BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT, WE'RE JUST KIND OF PUTTING EXTRA COSTS ON, ON A HOMEOWNER WHO REALLY IS JUST TRYING TO BUY A HOUSE AND GET A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD. 
          BUT WHILE ALL THE, WHILE WE'RE STILL DESIGNING, YOU KNOW, TOP DESIGN, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE BRICK AND THE SIDING AND THE STUCCO, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROVIDING THE, THE, THE BEST MATERIALS THAT WE COULD PROVIDE. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I MEAN, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY OR IN OUR AREA, WHETHER IT'S COVINA, THEY'RE BUILDING A LOT OF CONDOS, SIMILAR PROJECT, MANY HUNDREDS OF UNITS. 
          ALSO, IF YOU DRIVE UP A LITTLE BIT JUST ON AZUSA, JUST CONTINUE DRIVING UP TO THE HILL. 
          THERE WAS A, I DUNNO, 10,000 HOME THAT THEY BUILT ALSO AROUND THAT AREA, WHETHER IT'S A CONDO PROJECT MIXED WITH, YOU KNOW, UNITS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY TEND TO USE A LITTLE BIT BETTER MATERIALS, AND SOMETIME IT COULD BE NEXT RIGHT NEXT TO A MALL, BUT IT JUST TIME, IT LASTS A LITTLE BIT LONGER, SOMETIME THE MALL COULD BE AGED 30 YEARS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT SINCE YOU PUT A NICE COMMUNITY, WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, TO ANTICIPATE AND, AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TURNING A, UM, PACIFIC ZONING FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECTS TO COMPACT AS MANY UNITS AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND IF YOU CAN WORK WITH THE CITIES TO PROVIDE US, YOU KNOW, A NICER BUILDING ON TOP OF THE ROOF, WHICH IS NOT, I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY A NICE BUILDING ALREADY, UM, AND, AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          I MEAN, I REALLY LIKED THAT. 
          AND IF THE WHOLE THING WORKED OUT TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE REALLY NICE. 
          WELL, I THINK I WOULD SAY D CAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S RELATED TO, TO THE DISCUSSION WE WERE HAVING ABOUT STUCCO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION, IF, IF, IF EVERYONE KIND OF AGREES THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF, OF THE, OF THE MATERIALS THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'D BE OPEN TO, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A CONDITION, UH, FOR, FOR THE HOMES THAT ARE DIRECTLY FACING THE PUBLIC STREET, LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE VINCENT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR, FOR THE STUCCO, UH, AND THE, AND THE, THE ROOF MATERIAL AS WELL. 
          HMM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROJECTS? UH, IT'S QUITE A FEW PAGES THAT YOU HAVE. 
          IT'S A WONDERFUL THING, BUT SOMETIME IT'S KIND OF SMALL, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET THE DETAILS, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NICE IN TERMS OF THAT. 
          UM, ALL OF THE UNITS ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME FORMER SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOFS ANYWAY, CORRECT. 
          THAT IT'S CREDITED THEIR TILE OR THE COMPOSITION. 
          CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND IT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE SOLAR PANELS ON THE, ON THE TOWNHOME, HOW OFTEN ARE YOU SEEING THAT CONCRETE? YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR BRINGING. 
          YEAH. 
          HMM. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT ALSO A LOT OF TIME WHEN THEY BUILT THE SOLAR PANELS, 10, THEY TEND TO PUT WHERE THE SOLAR PANEL FOOTPRINT IS. 
          IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MATERIAL WERE FROM MATERIAL, AND THEN THEY JUST CAP IT AROUND THE SOLAR PANEL WITH THE NICER MATERIAL. 
          SO YEAH, IT GOT TONY TO WORK AROUND. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ULTIMATELY AT THE END, TRADITIONALLY, WHEN BUILDERS, 
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I'VE SEEN THEM DONE THIS, AS I WAS DRIVING A ZOOMING BY A PROJECT, I TEND TO SEE THAT THEY PUT THE LEGS IN THE BUILDING MATERIAL, THE ROOFING MATERIALS, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ROOFING MATERIALS. 
          AND THEN THEY JUST, ONCE THE SOLAR PANELS ARE IN PLACE, THEY JUST KIND OF LIKE WRAP AROUND THE NICER ROOFING MATERIALS WHERE THE SOLAR PANELS ARE NOT, I GUESS YOU SAY MATERIALS THAT WAY. 
          AND, AND SINCE THE SOLAR PANEL ITSELF, IT'S COVERING THE WHOLE ROOF, YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO HAVE A NICER MATERIAL IN THAT AREA. 
          SOLAR ITSELF IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          IS ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, JUST GETTING INTO THE SOLAR QUESTION, UM, WITH, WITH REGARD TO, UM, I THINK THERE ARE W TWO, SIX BUCKS, IS THAT, THAT FACE VINCENT? UM, I GUESS, I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE ON THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH SORT OF SOUTH FACING ROOF, IF YOU WILL. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO JUST, JUST A QUESTION, HOW IS THAT GOING TO, WAS THAT GOING TO WORK OUT FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE? SO IT'S IT'S YEAH. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE FIGURING OUT, UM, PRIOR TO FINAL MAP EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE DESIGN CALCS YET BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT ACTUALLY MAP WHERE THE, WHERE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE, WHAT KIND OF SOUTH FACING LIGHT IS. 
          AND THEN THAT WOULD DETERMINE THE SIZE OF THE PANELS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE FIGURED OUT PRIOR TO, TO FINAL MAP. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO ADD TO IT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ALL OF THESE UNITS, THEY WILL HAVE, UH, EVE, UH, CAPABLE CHARGING FOR THE GARAGES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST PERFECT. 
          YEAH. 
          VERY NICE. 
          UM, CAN YOU ACTUALLY ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE EBV? SURE. 
          I'M CHARGING LIKE IN THE GARAGE. 
          SO WE PROVIDE THE CAPABILITY, UH, FOR, FOR CARS TO BE CHARGING IN THE GARAGES PER, UH, I BELIEVE TITLE 24. 
          YEAH. 
          SO CURRENTLY TITLED 20 IS TO REQUIRE EVERY GARAGE OR EVERY UNITS TO HAVE. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          I IT'S IT'S PER CALGARY. 
          OH, CALGARY. 
          OKAY. 
          COW QUEEN REQUIRES THAT. 
          YES. 
          OH, WOW. 
          WHEN DID THIS START? FOUR YEARS AGO. 
          2016. 
          OH, WOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. 
          SO LET ME RECAP THIS. 
          SO EVERY UNITS, INCLUDING THE CONDOS, BASICALLY THE 119 UNITS WILL HAVE THE AB IN THE GARAGE RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO PASS YOUR SURPASSING CAL GREEN REQUIREMENT. 
          WELL, YEAH, WELL, YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION SINCE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF GREEN, UM, NOWADAYS, I MEAN, WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING NEW HOMES, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO WITHOUT THE, LIKE THE CAL GREEN, WHICH IS THE, THE CHARGING STATIONS AND ALSO THE, UM, WHAT IS IT CALLED? THE SOLAR PANEL? CAN ANYONE BUILT HOUSES WITHOUT THE SOLAR PANEL RIGHT NOW? MCKELL, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND EACH ONE GETS YOU A POINT. 
          UM, THE, THE SOLAR IS, IS SO MUCH A PART OF IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SHE SEEMS TO SHAKE HER HEAD. 
          NO, YOU CAN'T. 
          WELL, YOU CAN GET AROUND NOT HAVING SOLAR. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU COULD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO EVERY BUILDER IS GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR OWN NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS, WHICH IS AWESOME. 
          YES. 
          WHICH IS AWESOME. 
          I THINK SO, TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS QUESTIONS FOR ALL APPLICANT TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO PROVE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, ZERO DASH ZERO TO ZONE CHANGE NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ZERO THREE FOR CISE PLAN NUMBER TWO, ZERO DASH ZERO SIX. 
          SENSITIVE TRACK MAP NUMBER EIGHT, THREE ONE SIX SIX, APPRENTICES TWO ZERO DASH ZERO TWO THREE MORE PERMIT NUMBER TWO, ONE DASH ZERO THREE. 
          AND THE MIGRATED NEGATIVE DECORATION, VIOLENT IMPACT, UH, WITH, UH, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, WHICH WILL INCLUDE, UH, IMPLEMENTING, UM, NO PARKING ZONE, FIRE ZONES, UH, IN FRONT OF, UH, GARAGES IN THE COMPLEX, IN THE CON THE WHOLE COMPLEX, UM, IMPLEMENTING, UM, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER CORTEZ. 
          LET'S UM, LET ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST. 
          UM, AND, UM, OKAY. 
          I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING 
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AND NOW WE CAN HAVE A COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS AND YOU CAN CONTINUE. 
          GREAT. 
          SO, AND THEN, SO, UH, WHAT THOSE, SO WHAT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, WHICH INCLUDES POSTING NO PARKING ZONES IN FRONT OF GARAGES, UH, IMPLEMENTING BETTER LIGHT IN LIGHT LIGHTS, LIGHTING, UH, OFF GARVEY AVENUE INTO, UH, THE DRIVER AREA WHERE CARS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PARKING OUT. 
          THAT COMMISSIONER LEWIS MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, ALSO IMPLEMENTING, UH, BETTER LIGHTING ON VINCENT AVENUE TO ENSURE, UH, WHEN PEDESTRIANS ARE WALKING THERE, THEY CAN EASILY, UH, SEE THE SIDEWALK. 
          UM, ALSO, UM, IMPLEMENT A PARKING PERMIT, UH, WITH THE H WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM, UH, FOR THE COMPLEX, FOR THE PARKING SPOTS DESIGNATED FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, A PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM BE ESTABLISHED TO PREVENT OUTSIDE PARKING, UH, FROM OUTSIDE OTHER PEOPLE FROM COMING IN AND COMMITTING CRIMES. 
          UM, I WILL ALSO, UM, UH, REQUESTS THAT THE ROOFING MATERIAL THAT, THAT CHAIR, UH, THE CHAIR MENTIONED EARLIER BE, UH, UPGRADED TO A HIGHER, UM, HIGHER, GREAT MATERIAL OFF. 
          UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS OFF THE CONDOS ON VINCENT AVENUE AND ALSO, UM, ENSURING THAT THERE'S NO ENSURING THAT, UM, LET'S SEE. 
          AND I'M, I'M RULING TO SEE, UM, I'M REALLY TO AMEND THIS, BUT, UM, MY, MY MOTION, BUT, UH, FOR THE THREE FEET LAW AREAS ON WORKMAN THAT THEY BE UPGRADED TO FOUR FEET AND WALL AREAS OFF, UH, VINCE AND, UM, W THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON RINSE AND HOW TALL THOSE WALLS, SIX FEET THAT THEY'D BE UPGRADED TO SEVEN FEET, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO ENSURE PRIVACY AND, AND LOWERING THE SOUND BARRIER. 
          UM, CAN I, THIS IS, UH, JEFF HAMILTON. 
          CAN I JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BLOCK WALL THAT ABUTS THE OPEN SPACE AREA, THE COMMON OPEN SPACE AREA? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PATIO WALLS ALONG VINCENT OH, VINCENT AVENUE HAS PATIO WALLS TOO. 
          YES. 
          FOR THE TOWNHOUSES, THEY HAVE THREE FOOT HIGH PATIO WALLS, THE, SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE WAS NOT VERY CLEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I MEAN, I'M IN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, YEAH. 
          FOR THE PATIO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THE WANTS TO HAVE THOSE SMALL THREE FEET AND HE SAID HE WANTS TO GO FROM THREE FOOT TO FOUR FOOT FOR THE WALL JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, WHICH I DIDN'T. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WORKMAN AND VINCENT, CAUSE I, IT WAS NOT REALLY CLEAR ON THIS PICTURE. 
          SO WORKMAN AND VINCE IN THE PATIO AREAS, THEY HAVE THREE FEET THERE. 
          WE INCREASE IT TO FOUR FEET AND I BELIEVE ON GARVEY IS A SIX FEET WALL THERE. 
          WE INCREASE THAT TO SEVEN FEET TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE SOUND SOUND COMING FROM THE JASON FREEWAY. 
          AND, UM, AND THEN WE ALSO, I DON'T KNOW, I, AND I'M, I'M WILLING TO AMEND THIS, BUT THE VINYL WALL THAT'S ON THE HIGHER END. 
          SO THERE'S A, THE, THE, THE BLOCK WALL AND THEN THE VINYL WALL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THE VINYL WALL, UM, ON ADJACENT TO THE, THE HOMES, UH, THAT IT'S INCREASED TO SIX FEET, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A HIGH, HIGH, HOW HIGH, AGAIN, FIVE POINT SOMETHING, FIVE AND A HALF. 
          SO  SIX FEET. 
          SO THERE'S, UH, PRIVACY AND ALSO, UM, AND ALSO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE LIGHTING COMING FROM THAT AREA REGARDLESS. 
          AND, UM, I THINK I ADDRESSED EVERYTHING, BUT I'M RUNNING TO A MINUTE, UH, IN ACCORDANCE TO MY COMMISSIONERS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, IF, IF, IF, IF MR. GUTIERREZ WOULD OR COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ WOULD, WOULD PERMIT ME TO JUST ADD ON SOME, UH, JUST, JUST A FEW THINGS. 
          YES. 
          I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, AS A SUPPLEMENT TO YOUR, TO YOUR MOTION, UM, IF, IF, IF WE CAN, 
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UM, HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, OF, OF CCR RESTRICTIONS THAT, THAT ARE PUT IN, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE TRASH CANS, UM, BRINGING THEM IN OR TAKING THEM OUT AND, AND, AND BRINGING THEM BACK IN, WITHIN, UH, WITHIN, LET'S SAY 24 HOURS OF, OF, OF SERVICE DAY, UM, UH, S UH, CCR, UM, REQUIRING PROPERTY OWNERS TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES, UH, WITHIN THE GARAGES. 
          UM, IF, IF WE CAN, AND I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN, IF THIS, UH, IF THIS LANGUAGE WOULD BE PART OF THE, THE, UH, PRECISE PLAN OR WHETHER IT BE A PART OF THE, UH, UH, PART OF THE, THE, THE TRACK MAP, UM, THE TENTATIVE TRACK MAP AND THE CCNRS RELATED TO IT, UH, WITH REGARD TO MAINTENANCE OF THE TREES THAT OVERHANG INTO THE, UH, ADJOINING YARDS, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT, THAT TIGHTENS UP THAT, UM, AND THEN LET'S SEE, UH, WITH, WITH REGARD TO THE LIGHTING, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY IS THAT WE HAVE DOUBLE-SIDED LIGHTS ON, ON THE AREA OF GARVEY THAT'S, THAT'S COVERED ON THIS, THE AREA OF VINCENT THAT'S, PART OF THE PROJECT AND THE AREA OF, OF WORKMAN, SO THAT WE HAVE DOUBLE-SIDED LIGHTS ON, ON, UH, ON, ON ALL OF THE AREAS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED THERE. 
          QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          SURE. 
          FOR THOSE LIGHTS, ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT STREETLIGHTS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY? YES. 
          THE, THE S THE STREETLIGHTS, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PERMITTED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON, OR I DON'T KNOW, CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU ALSO HAVE A COMMISSIONER LEWIS, WHETHER THEY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY TWO STREET LIGHTS. 
          DO YOU WANT TO ID WHERE ON THE LIST? WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, LET'S LET LET'S HEAR OUT THIS, THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT TYPICALLY YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE A STANDARD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE GOT RIGHT IN STOCK AND MATERIALS, AND THEY'RE USED TO WORKING WITH, SO THIS WILL HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT WITH IT. 
          IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR AT THE VERY LEAST, SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE DEVELOPER AND PUBLIC WORKS WORK TOGETHER TO PERFECT A LIGHTING PLAN THAT IS, I GUESS, HIGHER IN DENSITY AND, UM, HAS DOUBLE-SIDED LIGHTING FOR BOTH ON THE STREET SIDE AND ON THE SIDEWALK SIDE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD IS I THINK THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LOCATION POTENTIALS, ESPECIALLY IN THAT SMALLER OPEN SPACE AREA, WHERE THERE COULD BE LIGHTING ON THE PROJECTS THAT WELL SORT OF PIGGYBACK ON COMMISSIONER LEWIS IS COMMON AND SAY THAT IF, IF EDISON OR THERE'S SOME SORT OF BLOCKAGE FROM IMPLEMENTING THAT ON THE EDISON POLE THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER, UH, SOMEHOW USES DARE LAND AREA TO INSTALL THE, THIS SHOWN LIGHTS FOR THE SIDEWALK AREA AND JUST MAKE IT MORE BRIGHTER SOMEHOW, I THINK THAT'S FAIR. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, THE, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER LEWIS. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE YOU ID THE LOCATION THAT WAY? WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE THE LIGHTING? I MEAN, SO THE, THE AREAS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, THE, THE LIGHTING PLAN DEVELOPED IN IT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT STANDARD SPACING IS ON, ON THE STREET, BUT REALISTICALLY GIVEN WHERE IT'S AT, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF, IF POSSIBLE, UM, MAYBE TWICE AS DENSE AS, AS THIS STANDARD, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, UH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT THAN TRYING TO SPECIFY A CERTAIN STEP, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF FEET OR WHATEVER. 
          I THINK THAT GIVES YOUR CITY DEPARTMENT A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK WITH HOW YOU KNOW, WHERE TO PLACE THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO BLIND THE HOMES WHERE WE END ON THE STREET. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE UNWORKABLE. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE INTENTION OF THIS. 
          AND THEN, UM, AND THEN IF, IF POSSIBLE, UM, I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF, OF THESE, UM, OF THESE UNITS HAVE THE, UH, HAVE BOTH A C A CCNR THAT DOES NOT RESTRICT, UM, CCTV FROM BEING UTILIZED IN THE COMPLEX, AS WELL AS, UH, IDEALLY THE DEVELOPER INSTALLING, UM, HOOKUPS FOR THAT, OR PROVIDING THAT AS A, AS AN INCENTIVE TO THE, TO THE, TO THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, THAT WOULD BE MY, I THINK MY FINAL, UH, MY FINAL SUPPLEMENT RYAN. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, THERE WAS THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF A PROGRAM THERE'S SOME SORT OF, 
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UH, HOA IMPLEMENTATION OF CREATING RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING CCTV, UH, COVERAGE, UM, FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO WANT TO INSTALL. 
          AND FINALLY, UH, THAT ALSO THE, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION CREATE, UH, UH, SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP TO ENFORCE, UH, WHERE A TOURING COMPANY ENFORCED THE, THE PERMIT PROCESS OF PARKING, UH, FOR YOUR COMPLEX. 
          AND, UH, I AM IN MY MOTION TO REFLECT COMMISSIONER LOUIS'S, UH, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND, UH, IF THERE'S A SECOND, OKAY. 
          SINCE WE'RE JUMPING INTO THE BANDWAGON, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WITH REGARD TO THIS, THE, THE CCNRS, UM, THAT, THAT THE CCNRS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PART OF THE CONDITIONS CAN ONLY BE REMOVED, UM, WITH THE CONSENT OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. 
          I AM IN MY MOTION TO REFLECT THAT SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          SECOND, ANYONE ELSE WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? IF NOT, OKAY. 
          WE CAN HAVE A MOTION, BUT CAN YOU PLEASE GO OVER WHAT IT IS THAT, UM, THAT BIG, OLD, LONG LIST IS MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY HAS ALL OF THEM. 
          LET ME TRY AND SEE IF I CAN IT, AND I MIGHT NEED THE HELP WITH A ATTORNEY. 
          UM, SO YOU ARE MOTIONING TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, NO PARKING ZONES OR ADD IN THE CCNRS. 
          UM, NO PARKING ZONES IN FRONT OF THE GARAGES, UH, TRASH CANS BE TAKEN OUT AND BROUGHT IN WITHIN 24 HOURS OF SERVICE STAY, UH, ARC VEHICLES IN THE GARAGES. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO SO THAT THEY, YOU CAN'T HAVE THEM COVERED OR, UM, FILLED WITH STAFF. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE TO PARK YOUR VEHICLES. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MAINTAIN TREES OVER LAPPING TO OTHER PROPERTIES. 
          WAS IT THE PROPERTIES OR THE YARD? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE WAY I WROTE IT, PAULINA'S MAINTENANCE OF COMMON AREA TREES TO ELIMINATE OVERHANG PROBLEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE CCNRS. 
          PERFECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE PRECISE PLAN. 
          UM, THE SECOND OR ANOTHER ITEM FOR THE CCNRS IS TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM THAT HAS RULES, REGULATIONS REGARDING CCT, UH, CCTV, UM, AREAS TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER PROVIDE HOOKUPS. 
          SO THOSE CAN BE CONNECTED AND THEN HAVE, UM, THAT BE REMOVED FROM THE CCNRS ONLY WITH CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK AS FAR AS THIS, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THIS SECURITY CAMERA IS THE FIRST IS THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS BUILT INTO THE HOUSE FOR CONNECTIONS. 
          THE SECOND PART IS THAT THE CCNRS WILL NOT PROHIBIT CAMERAS FROM BEING USED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT APPLICATION. 
          UM, THEN IMPLEMENT A PERMIT OR A PERMIT PROGRAM. 
          SO THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE A PARKING PASS PROGRAM FOR THE CURRENT YEAH. 
          FOR THE SPOT PARKING SPOTS DESIGNATED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS, I MEAN, I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION REQUEST, ROOFING MATERIALS BE UPGRADED TO A HIGHER GRADE OR, UM, THE UNITS, UM, OFF VINCENT AVENUE. 
          YEP. 
          CHECKING WAS THE MATERIAL, UM, THIS STUCCO, UH, I'M SORRY, THE STUCCO, BUT 30 STUCCO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK THE ROOFING MATERIALS FOR THE CONDOS IS TO, UM, USE THE CONCRETE WELL, THAT'S ON THE TOWNHOMES FACING VINCENT, CORRECT? YES. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS STUCCO IS NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE MOTION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IT'S JUST, OKAY. 
          WE, UH, CONCRETE TILES, THE CONCRETE TILES CAN BE, UM, YEAH. 
          OH, I MINUTE TO REFLECT STUCCO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND STUCCO IS JUST ON THE UNITS ON VINCENT AS WELL. 
          CORRECT. 
          [02:35:05]
OKAY. 
          UM, THEN THE WALL, THE PATIO WALLS ALONG WORKMAN AND VINCENT WOULD GO FROM THREE FEET UP TO FOUR FEET. 
          UM, THE WA UH, WALLS ALONG GARVEY WOULD GO FROM SIX FEET TO SEVEN FEET. 
          THE VINYL WALL, UM, WOULD BE INCREASED FROM 5.5 FEET TO SIX FEET. 
          UM, AND THEN I, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS ONE, A BETTER LIGHTING, UH, PLAN ALONG VINCENT WORKMAN AND GARVEY, UM, WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO PROVIDE, UM, NECESSARY LIGHTING ALONG THE STREETS. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU GUYS, AS A COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDING DOUBLE-SIDED LIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE GOT THE PATIO WALLS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          AND HOW ABOUT THE VINYL WALLS? WE GOT THAT TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THE VINYL FROM 5.5 TO SIX. 
          GREAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          I'M NOT ADDING THIS AS A PART OF MY MOTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MAYBE A ONE OR TWO MONTHS THAT YOU SOMEHOW INSTALLED THOSE SOLAR, THESE CHEAP SOLAR LIGHTS ON THE CURRENT POLLS OUT THERE. 
          JUST SO THERE'S A LITTLE MORE LIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT FOR POLICE TO SEE, AND THE HOMEOWNERS FEEL SAFER. 
          SO, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT STORY. 
          OKAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND, UM, PAULINA ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
          AND AFTER THE WAIT, DO WE BROKE UP OR DID SOMEONE ELSE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? AND WE HAVE A MOTION, A MOTION, AND A SECOND CALL ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 21 DASH 60 81, UM, 21 DASH 60 77, 21 DASH 60 78. 
          WHEN HE ONE DASH 60 79 AND RESOLUTION 21 SIX, UH, 21 DASH 60 80, UM, COMMISSIONER LEWIS. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST DOUBLE CHECKING. 
          IS THAT THE CORRECT RESOLUTION NUMBER? I'VE I HAD IT AS 20 DASH. 
          OH TWO 20. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE THE APPLICATION NUMBER. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          IF, IF I, IF I MISREAD. 
          OKAY. 
          THE ANSWER IS I OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. AYE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, VICE CHAIR FOR SARA. 
          HI CHAIR. 
          HANG. 
          I KNOW SHAM PASSES. 
          FIVE-O CONGRATULATIONS. 
          AND WE'LL HOPE TO SEE YOUR NEW PROJECTS AND I'LL CITY SOON. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          HEY, WE'RE MOVING ON TO NON-HEARING ITEMS SIMPLY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE NO NON-HEARING ITEMS TONIGHT, SO WE WILL 
          [COMMISSION REPORTS/COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS]
BE MOVING ON TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. WOULD ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKES TO MAKE A REPORT OR COMMENT? NO. 
          PRETTY QUIET TONIGHT. 
          ALENA, YOU NEED A MINUTE, A MINUTE BEFORE WE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ELECTION OF OFFICERS BEGAN, OR YOU CAN GO RIGHT INTO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU READY? ALL RIGHT. 
          [ELECTION OF OFFICERS]
TONIGHT WE WILL. 
          WE'RE ALL GOOD. 
          WE ORGANIZING THE COMMISSION BY ELECTING A NEW CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON, UM, SINCE COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, BUT SARAH HAS BEEN SERVED AS A VICE CHAIR PERSON. 
          WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER PRESERVE OR CHAIRPERSON? UH, I WOULD, I WOULD MOTION TO, UH, UH, TO, TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER BISSERA AS THE NEXT YEAR OF THIS COMMISSION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A FIRST IN A SECOND, UM, PAULINA, UH, AND LEWIS BY, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. I EMISSION OF GUITARS, UH, VICE CHAIR, VISCERA. 
          AYE, CHAIRING. 
          AYE, MOTION PASSES. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          WE HAVE A NEW CHAIR THERE, A NOMINATION FOR A NEW WIFE'S CHAIR PERSON. 
          UM, I GUESS I'LL MAKE A NOMINATION. 
          I LIKE TO NOMINATE NICHOLAS LEWIS FOR VICE-CHAIR. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT, OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A FIRST IN A SECOND. 
          UM, ONLY NICK, CAN YOU PLEASE COMMISSIONER LOUIS? HI, MICHELLE WILLIAM. 
          HI, COMMISSIONER TEARS, UH, COMMISSIONER VISCERA. 
          AYE. 
          AND THEN COMMISSIONER HAYNE, AYE. 
          OR SHAM PASSES. 
          FIVE-O. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND CONGRATULATIONS, BOTH FOR ALL NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR NEXT MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          [02:40:01]
PAULINA WILL DO WE HAVE 
          [3. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT:]
A DIRECTOR'S REPORT, UM, FOR TONIGHT? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE, UH, WITH, UH, CITY WILL BE REOPENING TO THE PUBLIC NEXT WEEK. 
          UH, JUNE 1ST, UM, SEVERAL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS WILL BE OPENED BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. 
          UM, SO THAT'S PLANNING, BUILDING ENGINEERING CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          UM, SO INDIVIDUALS APPLICANTS CAN, UM, GO ONLINE AND MAKE THEIR APPOINTMENTS WITH THOSE DIVISIONS OTHERWISE, UM, IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          UH, THE CITY HALL WILL BE TO ENTER CITY HALL. 
          YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH BASEMENT LEVEL. 
          UM, YOU GET CHECKED IN BY STAFF DOWN. 
          THERE YOU GO TO, UM, TO THE CORRESPONDING DEPARTMENT. 
          ONCE YOU'RE DONE, YOU WILL CHECK OUT FROM THE BASEMENT LEVEL AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, JUST THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF NEWS. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR VETERANS DAY, UH, UH, VETERANS, UH, OR SORRY, MEMORIAL DAY EVENT ON, UM, MONDAY, MAY 31ST AT 10:00 AM HERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER, UM, COURTYARD. 
          SO EVERYONE'S INVITED TO ATTEND, UM, AND THAT'S JUST OUR UPCOMING EVENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, AND SINCE THERE IS NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO CONSIDER THIS MEANING SURGERY, 
          [4. CITY COUNCIL ACTION:]
I HAVE A COUPLE, UM, OKAY. 
          THIS IS COUPLE COUNCIL ACTION. 
          SO AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON, UM, MAY 18TH, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE WALNUT GROWTH SPECIFIC PLAN AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE DOWNTOWN PLANNING CODE. 
          THOSE ITEMS WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          AND GOOD NIGHT UNTIL NEXT TIME.
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