Mar 23, 2021 Planning Commission

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

THANK YOU, KIM.

AND, UH, CHAIR HANG HERE.

AND, UM,

[1. Regular meeting, March 9, 2021]

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MIDDLE MARCH 9TH, 2021? NONE.

THE MEETINGS OF MARCH NINE, 2021 TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED.

AND, UM, BEFORE THE ORAL, UM, ORAL COMMUNICATION STARTS, UM, CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ANSWER? UM, I'LL COMMISSIONER , UM, QUESTION EARLIER.

RUSSELL HILDEBRAND, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

UH, ANYONE ELSE? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY.

ABOUT THIS ONE.

I RUSSELL HILDEBRAND, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, UH, THE QUESTION RAISED WAS, UH, ABOUT, UH, SEEMINGLY, UH, RESTRICTING PEOPLE FROM SPEAKING AGAIN TONIGHT.

AND IT'S ALL A MATTER OF FAIRNESS.

UH, THESE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SAY WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY EITHER FOR OR AGAINST, OR, OR TO COMMENT ON THIS PROJECT AND ALLOW, UH, ANOTHER, ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE, SO TO SPEAK IS JUST NOT, UH, IS JUST NOT IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS.

IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME AT THE MEETING, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET FIVE MINUTES.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A DOUBLE OPPORTUNITY.

SO THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN THE COMMISSION, THEIR COMMENTS, UM, WE DID MAKE THREE CHANGES REGARDING THE WALL HEIGHT, THE LANDSCAPING, UM, THE, THE CLIMBING VINES ON THE WALLS.

AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS A DESIRE TO NOT HAVE A LIMITATION ON THE HOMEOWNER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UH, CITING TO ONLY PUBLIC EMPLOYEES.

UH, SO THAT LIMITATION HAS BEEN REMOVED.

SO THOSE ITEMS ARE NEW FOR TONIGHT.

AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THEM, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE, UM, COMMENTED GENERALLY ON THE PROJECT BEFORE, IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC COMMENTS ON THOSE TOPICS, UH, THOSE WOULD BE WELCOME.

THEM HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THEY WILL BE SPEAKING ON NON AGENDA.

AND, UM, LET'S SEE, DO WE HAVE ANY ORAL COMMUNICATIONS? WHAT NAME, WHEN I TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM, RENEE? YES.

WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 12 PARTICIPANTS.

UM, WELL THEY BE SPEAKING ON NON AGENDA ITEMS OR NO, NONE OF THEM EXPRESS THAT ALL, NONE OF

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OKAY, SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.

[2. PRECISE PLAN NO. 20-01 TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 83134 (20-01) ZONE CHANGE NO. 20-02 GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 20-01 TREE REMOVAL PERMIT NO. 20-14 MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT APPLICANT: Glen Crosby for Lewis Land Developers LOCATION:1651 E. Rowland Avenue (AIN: 8442-018-900) REQUEST: The project consists of a request for the approval of a precise plan and tentativetract map to demolish all existing school buildings/uses on the site and construct 158 residentialcondominium units (66 two-story single-family residential style detached units: ranging from1,471 sq. ft. to 1,798 sq. ft. and 92 attached three-story townhome style units: ranging from 1,310sq. ft. to 1,721 sq. ft.), internal drive aisles, common open space, guest parking spaces, and otherassociated incidental improvements on a 9.14 acre site. A tree removal permit is required toremove 9 significant trees on the site (5 Oak trees, 2 Maple trees, and 2 Bottle Brush trees). Theproject also involves a request for a General Plan Amendment to change the general plan land-use designation from Civic: Schools to Neighborhood Medium, and a Zone Change to change thezoning from Single-Family Residential (R-1) to a Specific Plan.]

WE ARE CONTINUING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR PRECISE PLAN 20 DASH OH ONE TO THE RETRACT MAP.

EIGHT THREE ONE THREE FOUR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 DASH OH ONE ZONE CHANGE NUMBER 20 DASH OH TWO AND THREE PERMIT NUMBER 20, A TREE PERMIT NUMBER 20 DASH ONE FOUR.

AGAIN, SINCE THE, UM, WE HAD ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, ALL BUDDY, IF YOU SPOKE, THIS IS A CONTINUATION.

SO IT JUST CONTINUED FROM THE LAST WEEK AS IF WE JUST CONTINUE ON.

SO YOU SPOKE LAST WEEK AND YOU DON'T REALLY GET ANOTHER CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT IF YOU SPEAK ON ALL THE ITEMS THAT I READ EARLIER, THEN YOU CAN PLEASE COME UP AND TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK ABOUT THE THREE CHANGES THAT WE MADE.

UM, HEY, PUBLIC HEARING, ARE WE GOING? IS STAFF IS GOING TO BE THROUGH THE PLAN AGAIN? SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PRECISE PLANT AND TENTATIVE TRACK MAP FOR THE CONSTRUCTION 458, RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM, 66, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL STYLE DETACHED UNITS IN 92, ATTACH TOM HOMESTYLE UNITS INTO OUR, UM, INTERNAL DRIVE ISLES, COMMON OPEN SPACE GUEST PARKING SPACE SPACES, AND OTHER ASSOCIATED INCIDENTAL IMPROVEMENT.

ON A 9.14 ACRE SITE.

A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED TO REMOVE NINE SIGNIFICANT TREES, ONSITE FIVE OAK TREES TO MAPLE TREES AND TO BOTTLE BRUSH TREES.

THE PROJECT ALSO INVOLVES A REQUEST FOR A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE GENERAL PLAN USE DESTINATIONS FROM CIVIC SCHOOLS TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIUM, BASICALLY CHANGING FROM SCHOOL TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIUM AND A ZONE CHANGE TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO A PACIFIC PLAN.

THEN, UM, WE WILL BE HEARING FROM STAFF REPORT.

YES, A CHAIR HANG, UH, JOANNE OR PLANNING MANAGER WILL PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION.

UNITS WITH TWO CAR GARAGES WITH, UM, THE 66 TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY STYLE UNITS ARE SITED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE, THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

GOOD EVENING ON A ROLL CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND START OFF THE PRESENTATION WITH A SUMMARY OF THE LAST, UM, OF WHAT HAD OCCURRED AND WAS DISCUSSED ON THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH WAS HELD ON MARCH 9TH, 2021 DURING THE MEETING STAFF PRESENTED THE PROJECT DETAILS.

AND I'LL GO OVER THIS, I'LL GO OVER THE BASIC AND SHE'LL SHOW THE SITE PLAN IN, IN, IN A LATER SLIDE THAT EVERYBODY HEARD FROM THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS, WHICH IS SOMAS WHO SUMMARIZED THE INITIAL STUDY IN A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION DOCUMENT.

THE APPLICANT GLEN CROSBY PRESENTED INFORMATION REGARDING PROJECT DESIGN, SIDING, LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING, PERIMETER WALLS, SITE DRAINAGE, TRASH, OR WASTE COLLECTION, AND PARKING 16 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SPOKE IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT AND THEIR CONCERNS THAT THE CONCERNS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE PUBLIC WAS RELATED TO DENSITY.

THE PROPOSED USE THE LACK OF PUBLIC PARKS IN THE AREA, DRAINAGE ISSUES, TRAFFIC ISSUES, AND THE NEED FOR MORE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT.

IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE CITY DID RECEIVE, UM, UM, A CO UM, THE CITY DID RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEIR REPRESENTATIVES SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT AS, UM, AND DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXPRESSED CONCERNS REGARDING THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THE HEIGHT OF PERIMETER WALLS, THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG EILEEN STREET AND ROLLING AVENUE WITH THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONTINUED THE MEETING TO A DATE CERTAIN OF TODAY TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS DIRECT DIRECTION W UM, WAS NOT MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE APPLICANTS TO MAKE ANY REVISIONS TO THE PROJECT.

HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE SITE PLAN.

THE PROJECT IN ITSELF HAS NOT CHANGED.

THERE'S STILL 158

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AND THE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES ARE CITED MOSTLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY NEAR THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR OPPORTUNITIES.

THE COMMON OPEN SPACE REMAINS AT, TOWARDS THE MID, THE MID THIRD OF THE PROPERTY AT 10,450 SQUARE FEET LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HAS, HAS BEEN UPDATED TO REQUIRE A LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG A LEAN STREET TO BLOCK, TO BLOCK OR PROVIDE SOME BUFFERING BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE REQUIRED SEVEN FOOT TALL WALL AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE SCREENING IS, IS ALSO, UM, WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED ALONG ROLLING AVENUE.

E THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL HAS ALSO BEEN UPDATED TO REQUIRE THE WALL ALONG A LEAN STREET TO BE AT INF AT SIX FOOT TALL.

AND ALSO THERE WAS CONCERNS AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING REGARDING PEOPLE, THE POSSIBILITY OF PEOPLE JUMPING THE EXISTING WALL ALONG THE EAST SIDE, AND GOING ONTO, UH, THE PROJECT SITE.

SO THE WALL ALONG THE EAST SIDE, UM, HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN MODIFIED IN PARTS OF THE, UM, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THAT THIS WALL BE SEVEN FEET IN HEIGHTS IN, UM, IN THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WAS SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE, IT STATES THAT THE, THE NORTH EAST AND WEST PERIMETER WALL SHALL BE SEVEN FEET IN HEIGHT.

HOWEVER, UPON, UM, UPON SPEAKING TO THE APPLICANT, BE IN BETWEEN THE TIME THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA WAS RELEASED TILL NOW.

UM, SO NOW THE, THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT HE HAD SPOKE TO THE NEIGHBOR, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, SINGLE, SINGLE, UM, NEIGHBORING SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THEY HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THEY WANTED TO KEEP THEIR EXISTING WALL IN PLACE.

SO IF, UM, WE CAN MODIFY THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO REQUIRE THE SEVEN FOOT WALL ONLY ON THE EAST SIDE, AND ALSO ALONG A LEAN STREET, WHICH WAS THE INITIAL CONCERN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD AT THE LAST MEETING.

IN, IN ADDITION AT, AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING SITE DRAINAGE.

I DID CONFIRM WITH THE CITY ENGINEER THAT, THAT THE EXPLANATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS, WAS ACCURATE IN THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING, OR THEY ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLING THE, THE DRAINAGE CANISTER IN THE PARKING AREA RIGHT ALONG HERE, UM, IN THE AREA WHERE THE DRAINAGE CANISTER IS, IS TO BE WHERE THE DRAINERS CANISTER WOULD BE INSTALLED AND NOT HAVE ANY STRUCTURES ON TOP OF IT, IN CASE IT FAILS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE GO UP.

SO, UM, SO IT CAN ONLY HAVE PAVEMENT OR LANDSCAPING STAFF DID MAKE SOME CHANGES REGARDING THE HOME OWNERSHIP ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

IT WAS PRE-RELEASED PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

AND THE CHANGE IS BASICALLY INSTEAD OF BEING, MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC, UM, SERVICE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEES, IT WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS WITH A PREFERENCE GIVEN TO LOW OR MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES.

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SO THIS, THIS PROGRAM, UM, THIS WOULD BE REQUIRED.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HOMEOWNER SERVICES AND P PROGRAM WOULD BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MODEL HOME MARKETING COMPLEX.

SO BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO SELL ANY PROPERTY DURING THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WERE SOME TRAFFIC, UM, ISSUES THAT INNER CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE MEMBER BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER, JENNA ROBBINS, IS HERE TO PROVIDE AND CLARIFY SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS ASKED AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

IN ADDITION, AFTER, AFTER JENNA ROBBINS PRESENTATION, THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, UM, WHICH IS SO MISS IS AVAILABLE ON ZOOM TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WELL.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

TO BE IN EFFECT THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND RESEARCH OPR PROVIDED GUIDELINES THAT INCLUDED THRESHOLDS TO USE FOR DETERMINING TRAFFIC IMPACTS FOR SEQUEL ANALYSIS IN THIS PROCESS, EACH CITY COULD ELECT THE FOLLOWING TO FOLLOW THESE GUIDELINES OR CHOOSE THEIR OWN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ALONG WITH 26 OTHER CITIES IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY COG BANDED TOGETHER AND HIRED A VMT EXPERT, FEAR AND PEERS, TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS, AND HELP PREPARE AND WRITE WHAT IS NOW THE WEST COVINA MUTATION GUIDELINES, ALL 26 OTHER CITIES HAVE SO ADOPTED SIMILAR GUIDELINES RECOMMENDATIONS.

IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS THAT CAME UP AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CONCERNING PROJECT IMPACTS, AS WELL AS QUESTIONS ON DELAY AND CONGESTION STAFF ASKED ME TO CLARIFY A FEW POINTS AS YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE WAY TRAFFIC IMPACTS USED TO BE DETERMINED IN THE PAST.

THE DETERMINATION OF WHETHER A PROJECT HAS WHAT IS CONSIDERED A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON A ROADWAY OR INTERSECTION WAS DETERMINED BY HOW MUCH CONGESTION OR DELAY WAS BEING EXPERIENCED.

DEPENDING ON THIS, AN INTERSECTION WAS ASSIGNED A LEVEL LEVEL SERVICE, A THROUGH F AS A GRADING SYSTEM, SIMILAR TO SCHOOL GRADES.

IF A PROPOSED PROJECT TRAFFIC CAUSED AN INTERSECTION TO OPERATE AT LOS F AND EXCEEDED CERTAIN THRESHOLDS, AND A PROJECT WAS CONSIDERED TO, TO IMPACT AND INTERSECTION AND MITIGATION WOULD BE REQUIRED.

AND THEN IN THIS CONTEXT, THE PROJECT WOULD MITIGATE THE INCREMENT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PROJECT YOU FIND THRESHOLDS OF SIGNIFICANCE WERE USED.

SO THAT MITIGATION MEASURES ARE DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO THE IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT SO THAT OUR PROJECT IS NOT PENALIZED FOR BEING LAST IN TO BE DEVELOPED.

NOW, THE WAY WE LOOK AT PROJECT IMPACTS HAS CHANGED ALL THOSE CITIES.

LOOK AT INTERSECTION OPERATION FOR PLANNING PURPOSES LEVEL SERVES SERVICE CONGESTION, AND DELAY IS NO LONGER THE MATRIX FOR DETERMINING IF A PROJECT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON STREETS AND INTERSECTIONS.

THE FURTHER EXPLAIN BEGINNING IN JULY, 2020, SB SEVEN 43, IDENTIFIED THAT FOR SEQUEL, ALL LEAD AGENCIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA USE V M T OR VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AS A TRANSPORTATION METRIC, A VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED OR VMT IS RULER.

LITERALLY ONE VEHICLE TRAVELING ON A ROADWAY FOR ONE MILE, REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING IN THE VEHICLE.

EACH VEHICLE TRAVELING ON A ROADWAY GENERATES ONE VMT FOR EACH MILE AT TRAVELS TO BE IN LINE WITH STATE MANDATES IN JUNE, 2020, THE CITY ADOPTED THE USE OF VMT ANALYSIS METHODOLOGY FOR PROJECTS.

WHEN A VALLEY EVALUATING TRAFFIC IMPACTS CITIES GUIDELINES CAN BE FOUND IN THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION STUDY GUIDELINES DATED SEPTEMBER, 2020, A KEY ELEMENT OF SB SEVEN 43 IS THE ELIMINATION OF AUTO DELAY LEVEL SERVICE AND MEASURES OF VEHICULAR CAPACITY OR TRAFFIC CONGESTION AS A BASIS FOR DETERMINING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.

THIS WAS TO BE IN LINE WITH STATE GOALS OF REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS, EMISSIONS, AIR POLLUTION, AND TO PROMOTE TRANSIT, WALKING AND BICYCLING.

IN ESSENCE, PROMOTING THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED CLOSE TO WORK SCHOOLS, SHOPPING, TRANSIT, SO THAT THE USE OF THE AUTOMOBILE CAN BE MINIMIZED.

VMT CAN BE REDUCED BY SHIFTING FROM A CAR TRIP TO A BIKE OR WALK TRIP, OR FROM A SINGLE OCCUPANT VEHICLE TRIP TO A CARPOOL OR TRANSIT TRIP.

THE STATE'S GOALS IS FOR CITIES TO PROVIDE A BETTER MIX OF RESIDENTIAL EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION AND SERVICE USES ALL WITHIN AN AREA TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR DAILY ACTIVITIES WITH LESS DRIVING AND CONSEQUENTLY LESS VMT GETTING READY FOR SB SEVEN 43

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THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS A PROJECT CAN BE EXEMPT FROM PREPARING A FULL DETAILED PROJECT LEVEL VMT ASSESSMENT.

ONE, A PROJECT IS IN A TRANSIT PRIORITY AREA TO A PROJECT IS A LOW VMT GENERATING AREA PROJECT TYPE THAT OPR HAS CONSIDERED TO BE LOCAL SERVING, OR THOSE PROJECTS THAT GENERATE LESS THAN 110 DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS.

TRANSIT PRIORITY AREA IS DEFINED AS A HALF MILE AIR AREA AROUND AN EXISTING MAJOR STOP OR AN EXISTING STOP ALONG A HIGH QUALITY TRANSIT CORRIDOR WITH BUS ROUTES, WITH A FREQUENCY OF SERVICE INTERVAL OF 15 MINUTES OR LESS DURING THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON PEAK COMMUTE PERIODS, AZUSA AVENUE IS CONSIDERED A HIGH QUALITY TRANSIT CORRIDOR, LOW VMT AREA SCREENING.

A PROJECT MAY QUALIFY FOR THE USE OF LOW VMT SCREENING.

IF THE PROJECT GENERATES VMT PER RESIDENT, PER WORKER, OR SERVICE POPULATION THAT IS SIMILAR TO A SURROUNDING USE PROJECT SCREENING, SOME PROJECT TYPES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS THEIR USES ARE LOCAL SERVING AND NATURE.

LOCAL SERVING RETAIL OPR HAS PROVIDED A LIST.

THIS INCLUDES RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, LESS THAN 50,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE GAS STATIONS, BANKS, RESTAURANT, SHOPPING CENTERS, SCHOOLS, PARKS, DAYCARE CENTERS, LOCAL SERVING HOTELS, STUDENT HOUSING, CHURCHES, AFFORDABLE, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, ASSISTED LIVING, SENIOR HOUSING AND PROJECTS GENERATING LESS THAN 110 DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS.

LOOKING AT THE INITIAL INFORMATION FOR THIS PROJECT, ALL KNOWING WEST COVINA TRANSPORTATION GUIDELINES UNDER VMT SCREENING, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN A TRANSIT PRIORITY LOCATION AND IS EXEMPT FROM A FULL VMT ANALYSIS.

SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WERE HOW WERE OUR VEHICLE TRIPS FOR A PROJECT GENERAL VEHICLE TRIPS ARE BASED ON NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED SOURCES.

THE 10TH EDITION TRIP GENERATION MANUAL.

THIS MANUAL HAS CALCULATED AVERAGE RATES FOR EACH TYPE OF LAND USE, WHICH IS BASED ON SURVEYS AND DRIVEWAY COUNTS COMPILE BY THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.

THE RATE FOR EACH LAND USE IS IN MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR A PROJECT.

IN THIS CASE, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER USE THE ITE RATE TWO 10 FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TWO TO ONE OR MID-RISE FAMILY UNITS.

ACCORDING TO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS PREPARED BY SOMAS.

THIS PROJECT IS SHOWN IN TABLE.

ONE IN THE TRIP IN THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WAS 66 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND 92 MULTIFAMILY HOMES.

THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE A TOTAL OF 1,124, TWO WAY TRIPS DAILY, BASICALLY 562 VEHICLE TRIPS IN AND 562 VEHICLE TRIPS OUT OVER A 24 HOUR PERIOD.

DURING PEAK HOURS, THE PROJECT WOULD GENERATE 80 2:00 AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS WITH 21 VEHICLES IN AND 61 VEHICLES OUT AND 106 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS WITH 66 VEHICLES IN AND 40 VEHICLES OUT.

THE CALCULATION OF ALL THESE TRIPS ARE ALL VEHICLE TRIPS, NOT PERSONALLY TRIPS.

ON ROLAND AVENUE, PROJECT TRIPS ON ROLLING AVENUE, ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN, ROLLING AVENUE IS A FOUR-LANE PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL WITH THE POSTED SPEED OF 40 MILES PER HOUR BECAUSE OF PANDEMIC CONDITIONS WITH SCHOOLS OUT AND BUSINESSES, NOT AT FULL CAPACITY.

ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP WAS ACCESS.

WE LOOK AT HOW PROJECT TRAFFIC EX TROP, THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC EXITS AND ENTERS THE SITE FROM ITS PROPOSED DRIVEWAYS PROJECT.

TRAFFIC IS DISTRIBUTED THROUGH EACH PROJECT DRIVEWAY.

NORMALLY THE DISTRIBUTION OF PROJECT TRAFFIC IS BASED ON THE PROXIMITY TO MAJOR TRAFFIC QUARTERS, NEARBY POPULATION EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, AS WELL AS EXISTING TRAFFIC PATTERNS, DISTRIBUTION OF PROJECT TRIPS AS SHOWN IN FIGURE FIVE.

AND THE TIA.

ACCORDING TO THIS FIGURE, 60% OF PROJECT TRIPS WERE ASSIGNED TO TRAVEL TO THE EAST AND 40% TO THE WEST

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WE HAD TO LOOK AT PRE PANDEMIC TRAFFIC VOLUMES.

THE LATEST AVAILABLE DATA IN CITY FILES FOR THIS SEGMENT WAS FOUND IN THE 2017 CITYWIDE SPEED SURVEY USING A GROWTH FACTOR THAT COME UP TO 2021.

THE DAILY AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON ROLLING IS 12,000 VEHICLE TRIPS ON ROLAND BETWEEN AZUSA AVENUE AND LARK ELLEN.

NOW THE CAPACITY FOR A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL RANGES FROM 25,000 TO 36,000 ADT.

SO AT 20, AT 12,000 VEHICLE TRIPS THAT IS CURRENTLY ON ROLAND.

THIS IS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT CAPACITY IS THE ADDITION OF 1,224 ADT TRIPS ON ROLAND AVENUE IS ABOUT 9% OF EXISTING VOLUME AND ABOUT 4.5% OF CAPACITY USING A LOW 25,000 FOR CAPACITY.

ANOTHER THE LAST COMMENT IS LEFT.

TURN ACCESS INTO THE SITE.

ALSO AS PART OF ACCESS ASSESSMENT, THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE A LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE WESTERN MOST DRIVEWAY.

THIS WERE REQUIRE A CUT IN THE MEDIAN TO ALLOW FOR A LEFT TURN LANE AND TRANSITION INTO A NEW LEFT TURN POCKET.

THE PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE TO SUBMIT DESIGN PLANS FOR CITY APPROVAL FOR THE MODIFICATION, THE RAY'S MEDIAN TO ALLOW FOR LEFT TURN ACCESS AT THE MOST WESTERN DRIVEWAY, ACCORDING TO THE TIA IN THEIR QUEUING ANALYSIS, THERE WAS ADEQUATE ROOM TO WRITE A CUT IN THE MEDIAN AND ACCOMMODATE PROJECT VEHICLES TO QUEUE THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 300, THAT 300,300 FEET OF MEDIAN BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAY AND THE NEXT OPENING IN THE MEDIAN, ASSUMING ALLOWANCE OF 25 FEET PER CAR TO QUEUE, THERE WOULD BE ADEQUATE ROOM FOR THREE TO FOUR CARS TO QUEUE AS WELL AS TRANSITION INTO THE TURN LANE.

AND AS NOTED IN, IN THE PDF, TRA ONE MITIGATION MONITORING PROGRAM, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO SUBMIT DESIGN PLANS TO THE CITY FOR APPROVAL.

THERE WERE OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT CAME UP, BUT I THINK WE CAN DEAL WITH THOSE IF THEY COME BACK AT THIS AT THIS TIME, I HAVE AALIYAH AND DARLENE FROM SOMAS ON THE LINE, ALIYAH.

DARLENE, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC AND CLARIFY? BEAUTIFUL TO WATCH DARLENE, CAN YOU HEAR ME DARLENE? OH, YES.

THIS IS DARLENE.

DARLENE.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC TO WHAT JANET OR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, UM, STATED? UH, NOT AT THIS TIME.

I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD EXPLANATION, KIND OF HELPS EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT HOW, UM, CAN, OKAY.

UM, IF, IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR A TRAFFIC CONSULT FOR A TROPIC CONSULTANTS OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, THEY ARE ON THE LINE ON ZOOM AS WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT UP THERE.

UM, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND

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CONTINUE ON WITH THE PRESENTATION.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS NUMBERS 21 DASH SIX ZERO SIX EIGHT THROUGH SIX ZERO SEVEN TWO, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROJECT.

AND I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, STAFF DID RECEIVE LETTERS FROM NEIGHBORS.

UH, I BELIEVE I RECEIVED THE ONE LETTER IN ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AND A NUMBER OF LETTERS, UM, IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT, ALL THE LETTERS THAT STAFF RECEIVED HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGH EMAIL AND HAVE ALSO BEEN PRINTED OUT SO THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN HAVE COPIES OF ALL THE LETTERS IN FRONT OF THEM FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

IN ADDITION LETTERS THAT WERE PROVIDED PRIOR TO THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HAS BEEN ATTACHED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA PACKET AND WAS PROVIDED AGAIN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THEIR PACKETS WERE DELIVERED WITH THAT.

IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ONE QUESTION I HAVE FOR STAFF.

I NOTICED, UM, IN THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE IDENTIFYING COMPOSITION SHINGLES, DO WE KNOW WHAT TIME THE B APPLICANTS WOULD BE ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT QUESTION? THEY DID.

UM, THEY DID PROVIDE A, I GUESS, A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE MATERIALS OR THE DESCRIPTION OF THE MATERIALS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE MUCH INFORMATION ON IT.

UH, HE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO DISCUSS BOTH TO ANSWER ANY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S QUESTIONS AS WELL, AND ALSO TO DISCUSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT HE HAS HELD IN BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND TODAY.

AND THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME RIGHT HERE.

SHALL WE IN THE BOOK? I BELIEVE IT STARTS ON PAGE 62.

SO YES, THESE ARE, UM, TILE ROOFS.

I WAS ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE COMPOSITION SHINGLE APPLICANT IS HERE, SO WE CAN ASK HIM LATER.

UM, SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANYONE ELSE? I HAD A QUESTION FOR, UH, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH REGARD TO, UM, SORT OF THE QUEUING THAT GOES IN AND OUT OF THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS THERE, IS, IS THERE ENOUGH TO PREVENT THERE FROM BEING AN ISSUE, SAY IN THE MORNINGS OR IN THE EVENINGS WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEAVING TO GO TO DINNER OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT BLOCKING THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF THE, UM, I GUESS THERE'S A FEW LITTLE CUTOUT SECTIONS IN THE, IN THE FRONT, ON EACH SIDE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF WHAT, WHAT TRAFFIC IS, IS COVERING HERE? NO PROBLEM.

I THINK THE CURB CUT IN THE MEDIAN, UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, IT'S LIKE 300 PLUS FEET.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT 25 FOOT PER CAR AND YOU DO THE TRANSITION AND HAVE, UM, CARS QUEUED IN THERE, THAT'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THREE OR FOUR CARS TO QUEUE.

OH, THAT WAS NOT THE QUESTION.

INSIDE THE COMPLEX, LIKE, SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEAVING, IS THERE GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH QUEUING? UM, AND I GUESS A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD ULTIMATELY DO IF THIS PLAN WERE APPROVED AND ULTIMATELY DEVELOPED IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LEFT-HAND TURN OUT OR NOT.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT INSIDE THE,

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UM, AND ALSO, UM, IS THERE ENOUGH, UM, IS, IS THERE ENOUGH OF A QUEUING AREA OUTSIDE OF THE, OR TO GET OUTSIDE OF THE COMPLEX, UM, TO TURN RIGHT? UM, WITHOUT IT PARTICULARLY IN THE MORNINGS WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION.

I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANTS TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

WE WOULD REVIEW THE PLANS, BUT THEY HAVE ALL THE QUEUING ANALYSIS THAT THEY HAVE DONE.

GOT IT.

AND THEN, AND THEN WITH REGARD TO, UM, W W WITH REGARD TO, TO THE LEFT-HAND, UH, TURN IN, OFF OF, OFF OF ROLLING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THE SECOND DRIVEWAY.

SO THE EASTERN MOST DRIVEWAY, NOT THE, NOT THE WESTERN MOST IS, IS THAT CORRECT? MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S THE WESTERN MOST.

GOT IT.

UM, MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM IT, AND SO, SO THEY WOULD ONLY BE DOING ONE AND NOT THE OTHER THAT'S.

AND I HAVE A CRUSH, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE EGG, THE ENTRANCES TO THE COMPLEXES, EXCUSE ME, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE ENTRANCES AND XS AS A COMPLEXES ON ROLLING, OR WOULD THERE BE STOP SIGNS? UH THAT'S HOW CAR VEHICLES TO STOP WHEN THEY'RE ENTERING.

I MEAN, WHEN THEY'RE EXITING THE COMPLEX TO ROLAND AVENUE.

THAT'S PART OF THE, THE PLAN REVIEW.

WHEN WE GET THE PLANS AND BUILDING AND SAFETY, THEN THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT PROCESS.

YES, THERE WILL BE STOPPED BARS AND STOPS.

AND ONE QUESTION JUST IN GENERAL, UM, ALSO IN THE FUTURE, LET'S JUST SAY, UH, THERE'S CARS THAT WERE SPEEDING DOWN THE, THE INSIDE OF THAT COMPLEX AREA.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT OBVIOUSLY THE CITY WILL WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT COME UP OR THAT MAY ARISE IN THE FUTURE? YES, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO THERE, UM, IT'S MORE LIKE A PARKING LOT, SO THERE WOULD BE MEASURES THAT THEY COULD DO TO PUT TRAFFIC CALMING INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU, CHAIR, IF I MAY, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

JOANNE.

UM, PERTAINING TO COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, HIS QUESTION EARLIER, UM, I LOOKED THROUGH THE PROJECT DETAILS AND THE, THE FARMHOUSE STYLE, UM, THE FARMHOUSE AND THE COTTAGE STYLE HOMES WOULD, WOULD BE THE COMPLETE, UM, COMPOSITE SHINGLES.

AND THAT THE PICTURE OF THOSE MATERIALS ARE ON PAGE 60 AND 61 OF 60, 61 AND 62 THROUGH.

OKAY, I'M SORRY.

JOANNE, WHAT PAGE IS THAT? ON 51 OR 61 60 WOULD BE FOUR 50, FOUR 60 THROUGH, LET'S SEE, 65 AT THE, THE APPLICANT APPLICANT'S IS HERE.

UM, AND HE, HE HE'D BE ABLE TO CLARIFY.

THANK YOU, JOANNE.

IT DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ALL STAFF OR TRAFFIC PERSON? IF NOT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS, UM, FOR THIS MATTER IS ALREADY CLOSED FROM LAST, HOWEVER, WE ARE, WE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS MATTER.

UM, FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN HERE AND ALSO REGARDING THE THREE ITEMS THAT THEY MADE CHANGES TO, AND I HAVE CARDS HERE.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS PAUL HAMILTON.

HAVE YOU, YOU ALREADY SPOKEN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? WE GOT INTO THE THREE ITEMS. OKAY.

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PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND STAFF, THE CONCERNED NEIGHBORS.

AND I OPPOSE THE PROJECT SINCE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING HELD ON MARCH 9TH RELATED TO THE PROPOSED WALNUT GROVE PROJECT AT 1651 EAST ROLAND AVENUE.

IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO GRANT APPROVAL TO THIS PROJECT APPEARS TO BE BASED ON A MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS, ASSESSMENT, RENA, AND THE NO NET LOSS STATE LAW GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION SIX FIVE EIGHT SIX THREE.

THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRESENTED THE PROPOSED PROJECT AS AN ACTIVE MEANS OF MITIGATING THOSE STATE REQUIREMENTS.

HOWEVER, THE CITY HAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN THE CURRENT HOUSING ELEMENT, EIGHT SITES THAT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

THEREFORE WE, THE RESIDENTS OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE AFFIRMATION PROJECT WISH TO EXPRESS SOME ADDITIONAL CONCERNS OVER THE LEGALITY OF THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN IN VIEW OF THE FOLLOWING FACTS.

FIRST, THE PROJECT SITE, WHICH IS FORMER PIONEER SCHOOL IS NOT IDENTIFIED IN THE CURRENT HOUSING ELEMENT AS AN OPPORTUNITY SITE OR IN THE SITE INVENTORY OF THE 2014, 2021 HOUSING ELEMENT FIFTH CYCLE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE SITE IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE NO NET LOSS STATE LAW.

IN OTHER WORDS OF ORDER, UM, I, I, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOUR SPEECH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, MY, MY MAIN QUESTION, AND THIS IS DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT IF AN APPLICANT HAS, OR IF A SPEAKER HAS ALREADY SPOKEN TO US ON THE ISSUES THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO ADDRESS, UH, ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE THREE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED TO THE PROJECT AND NOT, UH, NOT ADDRESS ANYTHING FURTHER.

UM, I WANT TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE HERE.

SO IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE SPEAKER HAS, HAS GONE OFF OF THOSE THREE ITEMS. AND I I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT FAIR FOR EVERYONE SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO, UH, CONTINUE, CONTINUE THIS.

SO IF THE CHAIR CAN, CAN ADDRESS THE SPEAKER AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SPEAKER IS, IS STAYING ON THOSE TOPICS, PARTICULARLY WHERE A SPEAKER HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS BODY, I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE MOVE.

HEY, UM, WE DO, WE SHOULD, IF YOU'RE A NEW SPEAKER, WHICH YOU'RE NOT, YOU HAVE SPOKEN THE LAST TIME, HOWEVER, WE'LL BE OPENING IT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS CLOSED OVER THE LAST WEEK, SO WE'LL BE OPENING IT FOR NEW PEOPLE TO COME IN.

SO WE CAN HEAR ALL THE NEW RESIDENTS OR, OR THERE ARE THREE ITEMS THAT THEY MADE CHANGES.

SO THOSE THREE ITEMS YOU CAN, UM, SPEAK UPON.

SO I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO GET TO THE THREE ITEMS UP HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE.

SO IF YOU ARE, UM, PLEASE ADDRESS THOSE THREE ITEMS IS BASICALLY, UM, THE WALLS.

OKAY, WELL, LITTLE WALLS AND THEN THEY'LL PARKING AND, UM, THE PERIMETER WALLS AND WHAT WAS THE LAST ITEMS? IT WAS THE, UH, REVISED THE REQUIREMENT FROM THE SEVEN FOOT WALL HEIGHT, UM, UH, AND SCREENING AND, UH, LANDSCAPE OFFERING AS WELL AS SEVEN W TOW BLOCK WALL ALONG THE EAST, WEST NORTHERN PROPERTY LINES, AND THEN THE, UH, RENAMING OF THE HOME OWNERSHIP ASSISTANCE PROGRAM CHAIR.

SO THANK YOU.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD ON TO THOSE TWO, TWO OF THE ITEMS, I'LL BE GUARDING THE BLOCK WALLS AROUND THE PROJECT AND THE END, THE OTHER, THE LAST ITEM IS REGARDING THE HOMEOWNERS, UM, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

SO IF YOU HAVE THOSE TO ADD ON, PLEASE ADD ON TO THAT BECAUSE I WAS WAITING TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU.

WELL, I CAN LET SOMEBODY ELSE SPEAK.

UM, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE SPEAK THAT HASN'T SPOKEN BEFORE.

THEN, OH, HOLD ON.

THEN I HAVE THE CARDS.

SO JUST WAIT UNTIL WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THE CARDS.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE HAVE, UM, LYDIA FRAY.

IT'S LITERALLY.

UM, IF YOU HAVE, BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE PLANNING WAS CLOSED ALREADY, SO IF YOU'RE NEW AND YOU'RE NOT HAVING SPOKEN ABOUT THIS PROJECT, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

IT'S COMING AGAIN, JUST IN CASE YOU JUST GOT UP HERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO REPEAT WHAT I JUST SAID EARLIER.

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IF NOT, PLEASE STICKS TO THE THREE ITEMS THAT WE ADDED, WHICH IS TWO OF THE ITEMS IS WE GOT ON THE BLOCK WALLS THAT JUST GOT HEIGHTENED TO, UM, FROM SIX FEET TO SEVEN.

AND THE OTHER ONE WAS REGARDING THE HOMEOWNER ASSISTANT.

UM, OH, GRAHAM, THANK YOU.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, HOWEVER, I MUST BEGIN BY SAYING THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, THE PUBLIC WAS INSTRUCTED TO SUBMIT MEDIA PRESENTATIONS BY 5:30 PM.

BEFORE THE MEETING, I DID SOMEONE UPON ARRIVAL.

UM, THE PLANNING MANAGER TOLD ME THAT THE CITY WILL NO LONGER ALLOW ME TO PUBLICLY PRESENT MY PRESENTATION ACCOMPANY IN MY REMARKS, AND FURTHERMORE NOT ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS US.

UM, THIS IS THAT'S AN ACTIVE PRIOR RESTRAINT.

THAT'S NOT ALLOWING US TO, UM, PRESENT OUR REMARKS AND NOT ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT MY MULTIMEDIA IS IN VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT.

UM, SO I'M STARTING WITH THAT.

UM, THE CLAIMS THAT THIS IS IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS IS NOT BELIEVABLE AND IT'S NOT REASONABLE.

UM, ALL OF US FEEL THAT WAY IN THE LOBBY.

UM, SO MOVING FORWARD AND IN HERE MOVING FORWARD, UM, I REJECT THIS PLAN AND PREFER SOMETHING BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY.

WE TAXPAYERS ARE GETTING NOTHING IN VOLUME FOR EXCHANGE OF THIS PUBLIC LAND.

IT'S SO STRANGE THAT COVINA VALLEY SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THAT THE UNIT COUNT AND ALSO HAPPENED TO BE THE ONLY PARTY ON RECORD SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.

AT THE LAST MEETING, WE ARE ENTITLED TO KNOW WHY A SCHOOL DISTRICT IS TELLING A DEVELOPER WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T BUILD GOALS TO INFORM THE HOUSING AMENDMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN ARE NOT BEING MET BY THIS PROJECT AT ALL, NO LOW, LOW OR VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING IS INCLUDED.

SO HOW CAN WE SAY THAT THIS PROMOTES EQUAL HOUSING.

THIS DOES NOT BENEFIT WEST COVINA NEIGHBORHOODS NOR RESIDENTS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, NOR THE GOAL SET FORTH IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

ALSO, BY THE WAY, YOU GUYS GOT A COPY OF MY POWERPOINT, UM, BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE PRESENTED.

UM, SO SOMEONE WHO WORKS AS A CIVIL ENGINEER LOOKED AT THESE PLANS, AND THEY SAID THAT THE GEOMETRICS OF THE SITE WILL ALLOW FOR THE PARKING LOT TO BE MOVED INTO THE SITE, THUS ALLOWING WEST COVINA TO BE WITHIN REGULATIONS OF NOT HAVING PARKING IN THE FRONT.

IF ONLY THE DEVELOPER WILL CUT BACK ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, DOING SO WILL ALLOW FOR ALL EMERGENCY VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS, CURB REQUIREMENTS, ADA REQUIREMENTS, IF ONLY LOUIS AND, AND THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL LOWER THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

THIS INCREASES MITIGATION OF WATER RUNOFF CONTRIBUTING TO WEST COVINA, PROVIDING RESIDENTS WITH CLEANER WATER, AS YOU CAN SEE IN MY POWERPOINT, UM, WE HAVE REALLY UNHEALTHY WATER CONDITIONS HERE AND NOT DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE FLOODING AS A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, WE SHOULD NOT ADD RESIDENTS TO THESE CONDITIONS.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE SHOULD GIVE REV.

WE SHOULD NOT GIVE RESIDENTS UNFAIR AND UNHEALTHY REDUCED ACCESS TO HEALTHY LIVING SPACES AND GREEN SPACE.

WE LIVE IN A PARK DESERT, ARE YOU PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WILLING TO ADD TO THIS, THE LITTLE AREA WITH ONE SWING SET AND ONE BENCH FOR THEIR PROJECTED 569 PERSONS IS EXPECTED TO RESIDE HERE SHOULD BE REPLACED AT THE VERY LEAST WITH THE PARKETTE PER WEST COVINA GENERAL PLAN, PAGE ONE 18 ACCESS TO OPEN SPACES, A BASIC RIGHT, 10,450 SQUARE FEET FOR 569 PERSONS IS FAR TOO SMALL AND UNHEALTHY.

IT GOES AGAINST THE STANDARDS OF 10 ACRES PER 1000 AS A GOOD RATIO.

THIS IS IN PAGE ONE 20, ONE OF THE GENERAL PLAN, AND THIS CAN BE FOUND IN THE RECREATION PARK AND OPEN, OPEN SPACE STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES DOCUMENT PUBLISHED BY NATIONAL REC BY THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARK ASSOCIATION.

UM, THE APPLICANT PLANS TO GIVE 0.02% OF WHAT IS RECOMMENDED.

UM, CAN YOU PLEASE, UM, JUST SAY WITH THE THREE POINTS THAT YOU HAVE, THOSE ARE THE NEW ITEMS. I KNOW, I'M SORRY I HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF.

SO JUST, YOU KNOW, PLEASE STICK ONTO THE WALLS.

AND ALSO THE, UM, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

WE HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY LAST WEEK, SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING THAT'LL BE FORGOTTEN.

IN YOUR PACKET, AS AN ASIDE, YOU GUYS HAVE SUGGESTIONS THAT I REQUEST THAT WE, UM, GIVE THE RESIDENTS ON ROLLING, BASICALLY SIGNAGE AND RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PARKING ONLY.

SO, UM, IN TERMS OF THE SHRUBS, THIS DOES NOTHING TO, TO BENEFIT THIS COMMUNITY.

UM, THIS DOES NOT IMPACT HEAT ISLAND EFFECT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT WAY.

UM, SHRUBS ARE PRETTY TO LOOK AT HOWEVER, THEY DON'T REALLY ADD VALUE TO THE RESIDENTS.

THEY DON'T ADD VALUE TO OUR AIR.

THEY DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE 0.0%, UM, OF PARKS THAT, THAT THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO GIVE THESE, THESE RESIDENTS, UM,

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UM, AND BASICALLY IN SUMMARY, THIS LAND IS STILL IN ESCROW UNTIL JULY, EITHER PARTY CAN PULL OUT THIS SHOULD BE RETURNED TO THE COMMUNITY AND MADE INTO SOMETHING ELSE THAT ACTUALLY BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY, UM, INCLUDING THE COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

IF, IF I CAN, IF I CAN CHIME IN, I UN UN UNFORTUNATELY, I, I, I, I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYONE OFF HERE, UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH, THESE ARE THE RULES THAT ARE SET UP.

IF, IF, IF THIS BODY WISHES TO, TO AMEND THOSE RULES AND REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO COMMENTS ON EVERYTHING, I THINK THAT THIS BODY SHOULD, SHOULD MOTION TO DO SO.

HOWEVER, I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT.

I, I THINK WITH REGARD TO, FOR EXAMPLE, MISSILE, MR. HAMILTON, YES.

COMMISSIONER LEWIS.

I HEARD YOU, AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT I TALKED OVER THE MIC.

THIS IS ALMOST THE SECOND OR THE THIRD OR THE FOURTH TIME I'VE SEEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS MATTER IS ALL BUDDY CLOTHES FROM LAST WEEK.

HOW WILL WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THOSE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS MATTER? SO RESIDENTS AND ANY ONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO SPEAK, PLEASE TRY TO STICK TO THE THREE POINTS UNLESS YOU ARE NEW, AND THOSE WOULD BE YOUR ITEMS. SO I HEARD, I HEARD YOU AND WE WILL TRY TO MAKE SURE THE MEETING STAY WITH THE THREE ITEMS. AND ALSO WHEN YOU'RE NEW, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT MIKE HELPING ME BRINGING THE BATTLE UP MO MY CON, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE DID NOT LET MR. HAMILTON SPEAK WITH REGARD TO THE ENTIRETY OF HIS COMMENTS.

WE LET MS. FRY SPEAK WITH HER WITH REGARD TO PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRETY OF HER COMMENTS BEFORE WE, BEFORE SHE WAS, BEFORE SHE WAS CUT OFF.

AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

I WANT TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE HERE.

I WANT EVERYONE TO HEAR, I HEAR YOU.

AND, AND, AND, AND WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ABIDE BY THAT.

THAT'S THAT, THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO.

YES, I DO HEAR YOU AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING OUT WITH THIS MATTER.

AND SO THE PUBLIC PLEASED TRY TO STAY WITH THE THREE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

AGAIN, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS MATTERS HAS ALREADY CLOSED LAST WEEK.

I WILL, WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT AND ON THOSE NEW THREE ITEMS AND ALSO NEW.

SO PLEASE TRY TO STICK WITH THAT.

OTHERWISE, WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO, UM, STOP YOU FROM SPEAKING IF THAT IS THE CASE.

SO WE HAVE MARIE HOGAN AND COMMISSIONER LEWIS, PLEASE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I'M NEW.

I HAVE NOT SPOKEN BEFORE.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MARIE HOGAN.

I HAVE LIVED ON HOMARUS AVENUE SINCE DECEMBER OF 1980 AND RAISED MY TWO SONS HERE.

I BELIEVE THE PROJECT DESIGNED BY LOUIS HAS MANY DEFICIENCIES MOST, IF NOT ALL, RELATED TO ENVIRONMENT AND DENSITY TO NAME A FEW FAILURE TO PRESERVE OUR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD RESULTING IN THE LOSS OF VALUE TO OUR OWN PROPERTIES, POTENTIAL PARKING PROBLEMS, INCREASED TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ISSUES, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, WHICH MAY NOT HAVE BEEN STUDIED OR MEASURED ACCURATELY DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND THE LACK OF OPEN SPACE IN GREENERY THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, THE POTENTIAL MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS AT 45 FEET UNFAVORABLE PRECEDENTS, WHICH MAY AFFECT FUTURE SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

IN OTHER AREAS OF OUR CITY, THE ABILITY OF GUESTS, DEVELOPERS TO CHANGE PLANS, ONCE PLANS AND PERMITS HAVE BEEN PROCURED, ALL OF THESE ISSUES CAN BE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH.

I WILL FOCUS BRIEFLY ON A FEW PRESERVE OUR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD SELL FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE THAN THE LEWIS UNITS IN MAY, 2019.

I FINISHED REMODELING A HUGE REMODELING AND LANDSCAPING OF MY PROPERTY AND HAVE NOTICED THAT MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE DOING THE SAME, THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING BETTER NOW THAN WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1980.

AND THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD THING.

PARKING THE LEWIS PLAN PROPOSAL OF TWO CARS PER FAMILY, AND A VISITOR SPACE HERE AND THERE FOR GUESTS WILL NOT BE ENOUGH.

HOW MANY FAMILIES ONLY HAVE TWO CARS? AND HOW MANY OF THOSE TWO CARS ACTUALLY GO IN THEIR GARAGES? WHERE WILL THESE RESIDENTS GO? THEY WILL PARK ON ROLAND AND THEN AROUND THE CORNER TO LEAF AND THE OTHER CONNECTING STREETS, TRAFFIC, AND APPRECIATE ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT OUR TRAFFIC EXPERT SAID.

AND I AM NO TRAFFIC EXPERT.

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I HAD NO IDEA HOW BAD TRAFFIC CAN BE ON POINTY, ENROLLED IN AVENUES.

UNTIL I RETIRED FROM TEACHING FROM TREY, RICK MIDDLE SCHOOL, I HAD NO ISSUES BECAUSE WHEN I WAS TEACHING, I ALWAYS GOT TO SCHOOL WAY BEFORE TRAFFIC HAD BEGUN AND LEFT WAY AFTER IT WAS OVER.

HOWEVER, MY FIRST DENTIST APPOINTMENT AT 8:00 AM ON THE CORNER OF ROLAND AND GRAND SET ME STRAIGHT.

AS I APPROACHED THE SIGNAL AT AZUSA AND ROLAND, I NOTICED A LOT OF CARS AHEAD OF ME AND HAD NO WAY OF GETTING TO THE LEFT OR TO THE RIGHT TO CHANGE COURSE.

I WAS STUCK AND NEARLY LATE FOR MY APPOINTMENT.

IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT LEAVING AT A CERTAIN TIME.

THERE WILL BE MORE TRAFFIC ON LEAF, HOME, REST, AND OTHER CONNECTING STREETS.

AS THE RESIDENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT LEARNED THAT THEY CAN TAKE A SHORTCUT THROUGH OUR STREETS TO GET TO 20 AND AZUSA WHILE YOU COMMISSIONERS WILL NOT BE PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE HERE.

THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY WILL PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES.

PLEASE ASK THE DEVELOPERS TO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS ADJUSTING THEIR PLANS TO ADDRESS THE BULLET POINTS MENTIONED EARLIER.

SO THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T BECOME A CONCRETE JUNGLE, EYESORE, SCRUTINIZE THEIR PLANS AS YOU DID MINE.

WHEN I BEGAN MY REMODELING PROJECT IN 2016, RIGHT DOWN TO THE STONE THAT I HAD PLANNED TO USE TO REPLACE THE UGLY WORN OUT WOOD SIDING ON MY HOME.

YOUR WORRY THEN, AND OURS NOW IS THAT IT WON'T BLEND WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

CONSIDER SOME FAIRNESS FOR BOTH LOUIS AND THE ESTABLISHED HOMEOWNERS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I DO WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING.

MY HUSBAND WAS AN ECONOMIST AND HE WORKED AS A CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND CONTROLLER OF SOME VERY BIG COMPANIES.

AND HE WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, MONEY IS MONEY.

YOU NEED TO DO WHAT IS BEST.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO MAKE MONEY ON THIS PROJECT AND YOU CAN DO SO BY REDUCING THE DENSITY, INCREASING THE VALUE OF THE HOMES.

AND THERE ARE OTHER WAYS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND IF YOU NEED A COPY, I HAVE A NEXT SPEAKER IS VICKY CLAUDIUS AND JUST TO GET READY.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RAY SANTOS AND SUSAN PARADIS.

I DID SPEAK TWO WEEKS AGO, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER WHAT I HAVE PREPARED, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WANT TO BE ABLE TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS AND FACTS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTS THAT WE DID NOT GO OVER LAST TWO WEEKS AGO.

SO WHEN EVERYBODY HERE WHO IS NEW, HAS SPOKEN, I UNDERSTAND THAT NEW PEOPLE NEED THEIR TIME TO SPEAK TO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THOSE OF US WHO PREPARE NEW ITEMS, BECAUSE BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS PLAN THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT OUT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN HAVE SPOKEN.

THANK YOU, RAY SANTOS, FOLLOWING BY SUSAN PARADIS.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS RAY SANTOS.

I'LL BRING THE SPEAKER UP SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

THERE WERE MINOR SINGLE CARS, BUT THERE WERE SOME MAJOR ONES WHERE THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO BE CALLED WHERE THE PARAMEDICS HAD TO BE CALLED.

MY NAME IS RAYMOND SANTOS.

I LIVE ON ROLAND AVENUE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PRO FROM THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING PREPARED TO, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION WHAT SHE JUST MENTIONED.

THIS PROJECT IS OBVIOUSLY AFFECTING THE COMMUNITY QUITE A BIT, AND THERE ARE NEW ITEMS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT UP ITEMS THAT WERE BEING BROUGHT UP LAST TIME, THAT WE ALL WANT TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THE PERSON THAT WAS CUT OFF WAS PUTTING UP SOME POINTS THAT I DID NOT KNOW.

AND I DID NOT HEAR ABOUT IT EITHER.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK, IF THEY'RE, EVEN IF THEY SPOKE BEFORE YOU SAID YOU WANT TO BE COURTEOUS TO EVERYBODY HERE.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SAY.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ON TRAFFIC LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

UM, I LIVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ROLDAN.

I MEAN, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, UH, WHEN THE PANT, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, IT WAS CONSTANTLY, UH, TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AT THAT TURN AT THAT TURNAROUND RIGHT THERE.

PROBABLY YOU GUYS DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT BECAUSE MANY TIMES

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UM, AND PEOPLE WERE INJURED.

MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT, UM, THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BRING A LOT MORE PEOPLE, 158 UNITS AND A LOT MORE CARS.

I KNOW YOU SAID ABOUT THE REPORT AND HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING TO BE THERE, BUT, UH, LIVING RIGHT IN FRONT, I KNOW WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS CREATES.

AND I'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT AND CONSIDER THAT, CONSIDER THAT, UM, I WASN'T AWARE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A STOP SIGN OR A LIGHT AT THAT, AT THAT LOCATION.

SO I, I IMAGINE THAT THAT'S ALSO GOING TO AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT DIFFERENTLY.

NOW CARS HAVE TO START AND STOP RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S ALSO A STOP SIGN OUT AZUSA, WHICH ARE ALSO GOING TO BE AFFECTED.

UM, AND I THINK THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED AND IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED AS WELL.

THIS WAS JUST BROUGHT UP TODAY.

AGAIN, THINGS THAT WE DID NOT KNOW BEFORE, UM, PARKING, UH, AGAIN, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, UH, WHEN THAT SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION, THAT THERE WAS NO PARKING ON THE STREET AT ALL, THERE WAS NO PARKING.

UH, WE COULDN'T REALLY PULL OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE CARS WERE PASSING BY AND WE COULDN'T SEE.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A SAFETY ISSUE AND IT IS GOING TO AFFECT THE PARKING.

UM, THE DEVELOPER OR THE BUILDER BELIEVES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK THEIR CARS IN THE GARAGE.

THESE ARE SMALL HOUSES AND EACH HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE FOUR, THREE, FOUR, OR FIVE PEOPLE IN THERE.

AND MORE THAN LIKELY, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE CARS.

YOU, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DRIVE AROUND AND YOU'LL SEE THAT EVERYBODY HAS MORE THAN TWO CARS.

SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO PARK IN THE GARAGE CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO STORE THEIR ITEMS. AND THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO START PARKING OUTSIDE.

UM, THE HOA I'VE MENTIONED, HE MENTIONED THAT THE HOA IS GOING TO POLICE THIS WELL, I'VE WORKED FOR A DEVELOPER AND THEY CHOSE HOA IS CONTROLLED BY, BY THE OWNERS.

UH, ONE YEAR AFTER THAT, THEY MOVE OUT BECAUSE THERE'LL BE GONE.

THEY CHOICE IS GOING TO SAY, IF THIS IS THE CASE, EVERYBODY COULD PARK OR WHEREVER THEY WANT OR PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA DETERMINE THAT.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO START PARKING IN THE STREETS.

IF YOU EVER DRIVEN AT NIGHT TO ONE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT IS PACKED WITH PEOPLE PARKED ON THOSE ON THOSE ARE OPEN PARKING SPACES AND THEY'VE, UM, UH, THE AX IS PARKED OUT IN THE STREETS, TAKING PEOPLE'S PARKING SPACES.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED.

I KNOW THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLATE, PEOPLE HERE HAVE LOOKED AT IT AGAIN.

I'VE SEEN IT.

AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S CONSIDERED OPINION, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THIS WILL AFFECT THAT, UM, THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THAT COMMUNITY AS WELL.

UM, SOMEBODY AT THE LAST MEETING STATED THAT THIS WAS, UH, THAT THIS WAS, UH, IT GOES, GOES AGAINST THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

UM, I DROVE AROUND OTHER COMMUNITIES AND NOT ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES IN WEST COVINA HAS A PARKING LOT IN FRONT.

UM, APPARENTLY THIS SITE, THIS PROPOSAL IS WHAT'S CONVENIENT FOR THE BUILDER BECAUSE HE SAID NOTHING ELSE WILL WORK, BUT THAT'S NOT, WHAT'S CONVENIENT FOR US.

AND THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO GO.

THAT SHOULD NOT BE INITIATIVE LOOKED ANOTHER WAY TO BUILD, UH, TO BUILD THAT PARKING SPACE.

UH, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT COULD SEE AND OFFER A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PLAN.

UM, UH, THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE HAD MENTIONED THAT WHY TURN IT INTO A, UM, HOUSING, WHY NOT MAKE IT INTO A COMMUNITY CENTER OR A PART? AND AS ALWAYS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I GO THROUGH THE, TO THE, TO THE W WHAT'S COMING A WEBSITE.

I ACTUALLY WISH I WOULD HAVE GOT INVOLVED MUCH SOONER, BUT IN THE, UM, THE I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE IN THE GENERAL PLAN POLICY, IT SPECIFICALLY STATES, UH, THAT, UM, UH, THAT, UM, UH, SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THIS SITE AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SMALL PARK.

SO THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PARK VERSUS THE TIME LIMIT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

AND I DO HOPE THAT YOU LISTENED TO US AND IT GAVE US AN, A MORE CHANCE TO SPEAK UP.

HI, I'VE TALKED BEFORE.

THIS IS FROM MY HEART, SO YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT.

IS THIS, UH, ARE YOU SUSAN? I'M SUSAN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE HELPED US GREATLY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PIONEER PROJECT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, FIVE TO SEVEN, APPROXIMATELY GOING TO SCHOOL, MEETING PLANNING, MEANINGS, AND LISTENING, AND STILL AFTER ALL THESE YEARS ARE CONCERNED, STILL ARE NOT BEING HEARD.

THUS NOT ANSWERED.

WE ARE NOT BEING PUT THROUGH.

WE, WHAT WE ARE BEING PUT THROUGH IS NOT VERY NICE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE HEAR YOU, BUT ARE YOU NOT? BUT YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO US.

THUS, YOU'RE NOT HEARING US.

SOME OF US DID NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THE LAWS, BUT OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE HAD

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BUT DO YOU KNOW THE STRESS THAT YOU ARE CAUSING US? WE ARE AFRAID OF LOSING OUR BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOODS.

WONDERING IF OUR CONCERNS WILL BE HEARD, WE DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT.

WE, EXCUSE ME.

WE ARE NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT, BUT WE HAVE TOLD YOU THAT.

AND YOU WOULD FIND THAT IN OUR EMAILS, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN READING THEM, NOW I WILL GET, AS YOU SAY, IT'S ALL CROSSED OUT.

SO I'M SKIPPING TO PARKING.

TRAFFIC HAS TO DO WITH PARKING PARKING.

AND WHEN THE TRAGIC ACCIDENTS HAPPEN, I'M SORRY, THE THREE ITEMS. I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY TO DO THIS, BUT I DO HAVE TO STICK TO THE PARKING ARCANE.

HAVE TO DO WITH TRAFFIC.

NO, THERE, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS HAS TO DO WITH THE WALLS.

THE THERE'LL BE THE WALKING, THE TALK BALL THEN.

CAUSE THE WALLS RIGHT WHERE I LIVE.

OKAY, WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU THEN.

THE OTHER ITEMS, NO, THE SEVEN FOOT WALL IS NICE.

YOU GAVE IT TO US AND YOU'VE GOT TO PUT SHRUB ON IT.

WAS IN SESSION, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK, USE UP ALL MY SPACE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

NOW THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY, EXCEPT FOR THIS OPEN YOUR EYES TO SEE AND YOUR EARS TO HEAR AND YOUR SOULS TO KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG.

AND LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, NOT JUST FOR WHAT MONEY CAN BE MADE, BUT WHAT THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE BUYING THESE HOMES, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE HURT WHEN THEY FIND OUT HOW BAD THEY REALLY ARE AND HOW CRAMPED THEY REALLY ARE.

YOU'RE NOT BEING HONEST WITH US OR THEM.

MY LAST COMMENT, I WANT TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

THEY SAY WHAT WE WERE TOLD THEY, THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.

NOW, VERY SMALL UNITS WITH ONLY ONE SMALL GREEN SPACE, LOW WALLS, AND HARDLY ANY PARKING INSTEAD OF A HOUSE THAT WE CAN MAKE INTO A HOME AND HAVE REMOVED FOR US, OUR CHILDREN TO RUN AROUND IN A YARD, BOTH FRONT AND BACK, HEY, MAYBE PLANT SOME TREES, MAYBE GROW SOME FLOWERS, EVEN VEGETABLES, HEY, MAYBE PUT A POOL IN.

HMM.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYONE LIKE THAT.

AND I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY, I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP US AND OUR VOICES DOWN AND OUR CONCERNS.

WE KEEP REPEATING OUR CONCERNS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO US.

PLEASE DO GOD BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU, SUSAN.

UM, CARL FREY FOLLOWED BY TERESA COZADD AND FOLLOWED BY ANGIE HELLO COMMISSION AND WEST COVINA STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I'VE NOT SPOKEN BEFORE.

THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME I GO OVER SOME OF THE SAME THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE STRESSED AND IT'S BECAUSE IT CONCERNS US.

SO, UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS WITH THE REMOVAL OF ALL THIS GRASS AND GREENERY, IT, IT CONTRIBUTES TO A HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

IT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL GREENSPACE PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND AS THE CITY CONTINUES, THESE INFILL PROJECTS, WHICH WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN, WE'RE JUST ELIMINATING ALL THE GREEN SPACE AND PUTTING ASPHALT AND CEMENT THERE, WHICH LONG-TERM IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE CITY HERE.

SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THAT.

UM, ZONING CURRENTLY, ITS OWN FOR SCHOOL CAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S THERE.

SO WE WANT TO TURN IT INTO SOME TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

THE CURRENT ZONING, WHERE I LIVE, WHICH IS TWO PARCELS WEST OF THE SCHOOL IS EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.

AND THE APPLICANT IS APPLYING FOR OVER 15 PER ACRE.

I THINK THAT'S EXCESSIVE FOR THAT TRANSITION TO GO FROM THAT SMALL PARCEL OVER TO ALL THE OTHER OF OLDER RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE THERE.

IT'S NOT AESTHETIC, IT'S NOT GOOD.

AND WHAT IT'S REALLY DOING IS CAUSING, UM, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID.

THE PARKING, WHEN, WHEN PIONEER SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION, I WOULD COME HOME FROM WORK AND I HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET IN FRONT OF ME AND THERE'D BE FOUR CARS CRAMPED THERE THAT I COULD BARELY GET INTO MY DRIVEWAY.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

I TOO BELIEVE THAT 14 400 AND SOMETHING SPACES FOR CARS FOR THAT KNOW THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH.

YOU KNOW, THEY CAN HAVE AN HOA, TRY TO POLICE IT AND SAY, YOU MUST PARK TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND THERE'S 99 OTHER SPACES OUT THERE.

THERE WILL BE OVERFLOW.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE JUST LIKE WHEN THE SCHOOL

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AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PARK ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND CREATE A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION, WHICH I USED TO SEE CONSTANTLY, WHICH IS PARKED YOUR CAR ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND RUN ACROSS A BUSY STREET AT NIGHT TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING IS DANGEROUS.

IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

AND THE HOA IS NOT GOING TO POLICE.

THE OUTSIDE STREETS ARE GOING TO POLICE THE PARK, THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE HIRED BY.

AND THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK AT THE CHASE BANK AND IT NORMS. AND IT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM.

TRAFFIC SAFETY IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

I KNOW YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO, UH, DO A VMT STUDY AND THE NUMBERS THAT THE TRAFFIC APARTMENT CAME UP WITH AND IT WAS BEING EXTRAPOLATED FROM SOMETHING ELSE.

I JUST, I'M NOT THE EXPERT, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT THEY EXTRAPOLATED IS, IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE FACT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 400 AND SOMETHING CARS THERE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE PRETTY MUCH PEAK TIMES IN THE MORNING, GOING TO WORK AND TAKING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

AND THEN RETURNING LATE IN THE AFTERNOON.

AND THAT IN THAT MANY CARS AT S PEAK TIMES IS GOING TO BE DANGEROUS FOR THE WAY THAT STREET IS SET UP.

NOW, WHEN I GO TO WORK, I HAVE TO LEAVE WEST ON ROLAND AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN AT HOME REST.

THERE'S NO LEFT TURN POCKET.

I'M JUST STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT INSIDE LANE.

AND, AND IT'S, IT'S LIKE TAKING MY LIFE IN MY HANDS.

PEOPLE ARE COMING DOWN THE STREET WAY OVER 40 MILES AN HOUR AND THEY'RE HONKING BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO MAKE A LEGAL LEFT TURN AND THEY'RE GIVING ME HAND GESTURES.

AND I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GONNA PLOW UNDER THE BACK OF ME.

YOU'RE GOING TO ADD 400 MORE CARS TO THAT EVERY YEAR, THE MORNING THAT'S CRAZINESS.

IT'S CRAZY THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE SWERVING AND GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET STRUCK.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A PEDESTRIAN STRIKE AND SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE A BAD INJURY OR LOSE THEIR LIFE.

AND I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT THIS IS FOR, SO THOSE ARE MY MAIN CONCERNS I DO BELIEVE IN PROGRESS.

I DO THINK THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE FILLED IN THERE.

THIS IS JUST MUCH TOO DENSE AND IT'S DANGEROUS.

AND AS A TAXPAYER AND SOMEBODY WHO LOVES THIS CITY, IT'S EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING.

I FEEL DISRESPECTED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TERESA CON SOY TERESA COZAD.

BUT THANK YOU.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU SPOKE TO IN THE PAST, BUT IT DID.

AND I HAVE NOT SPEAKING ON WHAT I HAD PLANNED BECAUSE I SPOKE IN THE PAST, BUT I'M GOING INTO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU SAID, BUT I DON'T THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS RIGHT.

I THINK WE SHOULD, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT.

WE HAVE LOTS OF NEW MATERIAL.

WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK.

AND WE NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU APPROVE ANYTHING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE TO PEOPLE.

THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO BE 150,000.

YOU, I DIDN'T HEAR FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE.

I WONDER IF IT'S STILL 15, LIKE IT WAS BEFORE FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SELL THESE DWELLINGS FOR.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SATISFY NEED LOW INCOME PEOPLE.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE A AFFORD.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.

EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM $10,000, THAT'S BASICALLY ENOUGH FOR CLOSING COSTS.

SO THAT'S A HUG, THAT'S A WASH.

AND UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS CONCERNING THOSE THREE THINGS THAT THE DEVELOPERS SAID THEY WERE DOING.

WE ASKED FOR MANY THINGS, WHEN WE MET, WE HAVE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER TWICE, AND MANY, MANY THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP.

THE ONLY THING THAT THE DEVELOPER IS ADDRESSING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS THE SEVEN FOOT WALL.

AND THAT WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE.

BUT THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS LAST TWO WEEKS, NOTHING, NOT ONE THING HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE DEVELOPER.

AND I THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT.

AND WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU, WE KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE WANT IT DEVELOPED.

WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO NOT APPROVE IT RIGHT NOW TO TABLE IT UNTIL WE CAN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER.

AND THEN TONIGHT I HEARD THAT EVEN THE TRAFFIC SITUATION, THE MAN MENTIONED THE STOP SIGN.

WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE STOP SIGNS.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IS GOING TO BE.

NOBODY KNEW THAT YET.

THEY SAID THAT EVENTUALLY THAT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT WHEN THE TIME COMES.

I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE CONCRETE

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WHAT IS IT GOING TO LIKE WHEN THEY DO LEFT TURNS OUT OF THERE WHEN THEY DO RIGHT TURNS, HOW IS THE WELL GOING TO BE, HOW MANY PEOPLE CARS CAN STAY IN THERE IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN DOWN ROLLING.

WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC, JUST LIKE THE MEN BEFORE ME SAID, WHEN YOU TRY TO MAKE A U-TURN, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING BEHIND YOU, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS FOR THAT.

THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU THOSE STUDIES YET.

SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TABLE IT SO WE CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED.

AND GIVE US MORE TIME TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE HE'S NOT GIVEN US A THING YET.

AND THE TWO MEETINGS WE HAD WITH THEM.

THANKS.

AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ANDREW.

THAT COULD BE SURE.

PLANNING, COMMISSIONERS, STAFF.

FIRST, THE RESIDENTS WHO SURROUND THIS PROPERTY, A PIONEERS GOAL ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.

THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

AND CLARIFY, WHAT RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE BUILT IS SOMETHING THAT BLENDS AND TRANSITIONS TO THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL HOMES, MORE COMPATIBILITY, LESS ABRUPT, A DEVELOPMENT THAN WHAT LOU'S COMPANY IS PROPOSING OF TWO AND THREE STORY CONDOS, HIGH DENSITY.

HOUSING DOES NOT BLEND INTO THE CURRENT AESTHETICS OF OUR SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE ARE AWARE OF THE STATE PUSHING FOR HOUSING.

I EDUCATED MYSELF ON THE RENA ACCURATE, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THAT ACRONYM, REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION.

WHAT THE STATE IS ASKING FOR IS FOR CITIES, CITIES TO DESIGNATE AND IDENTIFY AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT.

CITIES DON'T BUILD HOUSES.

YES, THIS SITE COULD HAVE HAD A ZONING CHANGE TO ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTIAL HOMES, JUST NOT THIS CURRENT DEVELOPMENT.

AND I NEED TO CLARIFY THE RESIDENTS REQUESTED TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER, NOT THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS.

SO WE HAVE MET TWICE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND ONLY TO BE TOLD THAT CHANGING THE DESIGN IS NOT ECONOMICAL FOR THE LOWEST COMPANY.

WE ASKED THAT THE DEVELOPER BE MORE REASONABLE AND SCALE DOWN THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO START TO ELIMINATE THE PARKING IN FRONT AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF ROLLING AVENUE AND TO INCREASE THE SETBACK ALLOWANCES TO THE WESTERN NORTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

JUST A FEW ITEMS. THERE WERE MANY MORE WE ASK THAT YOU DO NOT ALLOW FOR ZONING OF ANY CHANGES.

AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU DIRECT THE LEWIS COMPANY TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND WORK WITH THE LONG-TIME RESIDENTS WHO WERE WILLING TO MEET AND DISCUSS FURTHER ON A MORE AGREEABLE DEVELOPMENT THAT ALL PARTIES WOULD BE HAPPY WITH.

ESTABLISHED RASHES, D RESIDENTS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FIRST.

I'M PASSING AROUND, UM, A EXAMPLE OF THE HEARTH, HEATH DALE ON PONY AVENUE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD ALL WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT ACCEPTABLE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST PASSING AS AN EXAMPLE.

AND NEXT SPEAKER IS A MANUAL HAMILTON AND UNEXPECTED.

HER FOLLOWING IS AUDREY SANTOS.

ALL ABOUT FAVIOLA.

I HAVE NOT SPOKEN.

OF THE TOTAL UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR AN AFFORDABLE TO LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE BUILDING DENSITY ON THE SITE BY 115% FROM EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE TO 18, AND IS OFFERING A MEAGER $10,000 BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO ONLY 15 OF THE PROPOSED UNITS TO LOW OR MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES THAT APPEARS THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE DEVELOPER ARE MISREPRESENTING SECTION 6.1 0.6 OF THE CURRENT HOUSING ELEMENT FOR 2014 TO 2021 WITH REGARDS TO THE DENSITY BONUS, WHICH STATES STATE LAW ALLOWS A DEVELOPER TO INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

BY UP TO 25% OVER THE OTHERWISE BACK SUMMUM ALLOWABLE, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.

IF PROVISIONS ARE MADE TO CONTAIN AT LEAST ANY OF THE FOLLOWING, AT LEAST 5% OF THE TOTAL UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR AN AFFORDABLE TO VERY LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

AT LEAST 10%

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AT LEAST 50% OF THE TOTAL UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR FOUR, FOUR, AND AFFORDABLE TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MEET THE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME AND SENIOR CITIZEN HOUSING MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIREMENTS.

SINCE AS PROPOSED, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT FACILITATE HOUSING FOR LOW AND VERY LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS WITH THAT REQUIRED RESTRICTIONS.

ADDITIONALLY, IT WAS REPEATEDLY STATED THAT DURING THE MEETING THAT THE PROJECT MUST BE APPROVED BECAUSE OF THE LAWS IN CALIFORNIA, AND THAT IS SIMPLY INCORRECT.

THE PROJECT WHEN NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE RIGHT, WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THE ZONE ALLOWS FOR THE DENSITY BEING REQUESTED.

IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR A ZONE CHANGE TO A SPECIFIC PLAN TO CIRCUMVENT THE CITY'S ESTABLISHED REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO DENSITY, SETBACKS, LANDSCAPES, STRUCTURE, HEIGHT, AND FLOOR AREA RATIOS, ET CETERA, AND COMPELLING THE REVIEWING BODY TO APPROVE AS PROPOSED THE CITY'S GENERAL REVISION PLAN COST PER CALLS, PRESERVING THE STABLE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN LAND USE OR EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

IT CONTINUES.

THE GOAL IS MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF THESE AREAS.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTS ONE OF THOSE STABLE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE CITY.

ADDITIONAL LI THE SAME GOAL CAN BE FOUND UNDER OUR WELL-PLANNED COMMUNITY DOCUMENT, THE CALLS TO REDIRECT GROWTH IN THE DOWNTOWN AREAS AND ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS, SUNSET AVENUE, GLENDORA AVENUE, AND NORTH AZUSA AVENUE.

THESE ARE JUST A FEW LEGITIMATE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMITTEE CANNOT AFFORD TO IGNORE.

THEREFORE, I KINDLY ASK THAT YOU WILL UPHOLD THE CITY STATEMENTS AND ITS REGULATIONS AND TABLE THIS PROJECT TO AN UNDETERMINED DATE.

AS WE, THE COMMUNITY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER IN GOOD FAITH TO REACH AN AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.

AND THEY HAVE GOOD EVENING.

I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING.

I WAS JUST HERE FOR SUPPORT, BUT, UM, YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.

MY NAME IS AUDREY SANTOS.

A STREET OVER, SO, UM, WORK MEN, THERE'S GOING TO BE 119 NEW HOMES.

AND, UM, I LIVED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROJECT.

MY ADDRESS IS 1638 EAST ROLAND AVENUE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT TURNOUT THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, UM, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT.

AND, UM, I HAVE A PICTURE ACTUALLY OF IT.

UM, I TOOK THIS PHOTO THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE I WAS ADMIRING THE VIEW OF THE VIEWS OF THE MOUNTAINS.

UM, I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW.

WELL, WITH THIS NEW PROJECT, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY VIEW NOW, BUT, UM, I WANT YOU TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I HOPE YOU CAN SEE MY PHONE OR THE PHOTO, HOW THE TURNOUT IS AND, UM, CAN, CAN YOU SEE IT? CAN YOU SEE THE TURNOUT? YOU SEE IT? SO THE DEVELOPMENTS CAN BE WHERE THE SCHOOL IS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RESIDENTS PULLING OUT AND MAKING A LEFT TURN RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

UM, WHEN SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION, WE CONSTANTLY HAD ACCIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE DID A TRAFFIC REPORT, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT ACCIDENTS.

AND, UM, MY HUSBAND HAD ADDRESSED IT EARLIER SAYING THAT, UM, YEAH, THERE WERE SOME MINOR ONES, BUT THERE WERE ALSO SOME SERIOUS ONES, UM, WHERE THE PARAMEDICS WERE CALLED.

AND, UM, IT WAS A BIG ISSUE, ESPECIALLY WHEN, WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS OPEN.

UM, IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE NOW HAVING 158 HOMES AND, UM, PEOPLE JUST COMING OUT AND MAKING THE LEFT, CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THE LEFT THERE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN FRONT.

THE PARKING'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

UM, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BACK OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.

SEE, YOU CAN SEE MY DRIVEWAY.

I WON'T BE ABLE TO BACK OUT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE CARS PARKED.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING THERE.

OH.

AND THEN THE PARKING, UM, IS GOING TO THEIR, THEIR PARKING.

LOT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

SO I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT.

UM, THAT WILL BE MY NEW VIEW INSTEAD OF THE BEAUTIFUL MOUNTAINS.

IT'S GOING TO BE A PARKING LOT AND IT'S SAD.

UM, I THINK YOU SHOULD REALLY LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL MY NEIGHBORS.

UM, PLEASE TABLE THIS TABLE, THIS ITEM ALSO, UM, ARE YOU GUYS AWARE OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE AROUND IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE WORKMAN PROJECT OF 119 HOMES, YOU KNOW, ROLAND'S, UM, WORKMAN'S JUST

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THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BOWLING ALLEY IS THE OLD COVINA BOWLING ALLEY.

THAT'S 159 HOMES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT ANOTHER 158 HOMES.

TOWNHOMES ARE GOING TO GO THERE.

AND THEN PLUS YOU HAVE THE PIONEER PROJECT AND THAT'S ALL IN THE SAME AREA.

CAN YOU IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC? AND OF COURSE WE LIVE BY A BUS STATION, RIGHT.

THAT'S UH, THE TRAFFIC REPORT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM, UM, HAVING W UM, YOU KNOW, W I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF EXEMPTION THEY GET.

I'M NOT UP ON ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HORRIBLE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S NO BIKE LANES THERE.

I KNOW THEY SAID THAT WITH THE VMT, THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THERE'S CLOSE TRANSPORTATION.

IT'S JUST, UM, IT'S JUST, JUST A BAD PROJECT.

IT'S, UM, THE GENERAL PLANT POLICY, UH, DOES NOTHING TO PRESERVE THE COMMUNITY.

UM, IT DOESN'T REDIRECT GROWTH TO THE MAJOR CORRIDOR.

UM, THE PROJECT DOESN'T DO TO DO ANY OF THAT.

SO I APPLIED.

THE NEXT SPEAKER, WE HAVE FABIOLA FOLLOWED BY MARK GOOD EVENING CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER IN REGARDS TO WALL.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE INCREASED HEIGHT, BUT I WILL, UM, RECOMMEND THAT ALL THE WALLS ARE SPLIT FACE ON BOTH SIDES.

UH, SOME OF THEM ARE, UH, POSITIONED BLOCK AND IS REALLY NOT DESIRABLE IN REGARDS TO, UH, YOU CALL IT THE ASSISTANCE HOME ON THEIR PROGRAM.

UH, I DON'T KNOW, UH, NONE OF THE DOCUMENTS PREPARED BY THE CITY INDICATE THAT THIS IS A LOCALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS TO ADDRESS THAT IS PROVIDING ACCESS TO HOUSING, WHICH THIS PROJECT DOESN'T DO MEANING OR VERY LOW, LOW, AND MODERATE INCOME LEVELS.

SO AS YOU CONSIDER THIS PROJECT, CONSIDER THAT THAT $150,000 WILL NOT PROVIDE ACCESS TO THOSE INCOME CATEGORIES.

UM, I'D LIKE FOR US TO TABLE THIS, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND NOT A GAP.

I REALLY WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK.

UM, UM, ONLY BECAUSE, UM, I REALLY DON'T KNOW ALL THE SPECIFICS AND THE LAWS AND THINGS OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, BUT AFTER THE FIRST MEETING I WAS AT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY, UM, TIRESOME FOR ME WAS THE FACT THAT THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE BIRDS AND THE BURDEN S AND THE TREES TAKING CARE OF TAKING CARE OF THE TREES, UH, TAKING CARE OF POSSIBLE NATIVE AMERICAN BURIAL GROUNDS, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, UH, HOW, UH, YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE DISTRICT OR TAKE CARE OF LOUIS, BUT THE ONE THING YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN CARE OF OR THOUGHT ABOUT IS US AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHY 158 UNITS, WHY NOT 200? WHY NOT 300? THE SKY'S THE LIMIT, THE MORE YOU GET, THE MORE MONEY YOU GET, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

AND ONCE IT'S SOLD, LOUIS GETS IT.

HE COULD SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE, AND THEN ALL BETS ARE OFF.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS IN THE END, YOU'LL ALL BE GONE.

WE'LL ALSO BE GONE.

SOMEONE ELSE WOULD BE IN THERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADD MORE.

THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE CUL-DE-SACS.

I COULD SEE IT COMING.

THE SITUATION IS BAD AND BUILDING IT, AND IT'S BAD IN THE SENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO REZONE IT IN ORDER TO BUILD IT.

UM, TODAY YOU SET THE AGENDA FOR ONLY THREE THINGS, AND I'LL SAY PARKING, JUST TO SAY IT, I SPOKE ON ONE THING, BUT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE PARKING AND HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT, UH, THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I, FROM WHAT Y FROM WHAT I SEE, YOU CHOSE THREE THINGS TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE.

UH, THIS, UH, PROJECT WILL NOT BENEFIT US.

IT WILL BENEFIT OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO RECEIVE FUNDS, LINED OUR POCKETS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BENEFIT US.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I SAY TABLE IT UNTIL, UH, THERE'S, UM, MORE STUDY, UM, THE, UM, MORE STUDY IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND,

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MY, MY SON'S A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT AND, AND HE BUYS HIMSELF AND I KNOW THERE'S PROGRESS.

SO I'M NOT AGAINST ANYTHING BEING PUT THERE, BUT I AM AGAINST IT KIND OF BE RAMRODDED THROUGH ONLY THREE QUESTIONS ON THREE THINGS.

UH, UH, TWO OF THEM WOULD MENTION A THIRD ONE.

UH, SHE COULDN'T REMEMBER UNTIL SHE LOOKED AT HER NOTES.

UM, I WOULD SAY TABLE, IT, I'M NOT AGAINST SOMETHING BEING PUT IN THERE, BUT 150 UNITS TO ME IS A STRETCH.

AND I THINK THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER.

I'M CHAIR.

I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GENTLEMEN HAS SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY, BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IF ANYONE HAS NOT PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN, THEY CAN SPEAK GENERALLY ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

AND, AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE THE CHAIR TO, UH, REMIND ANYONE WHO, WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK, THAT THEY CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK ON ANY ISSUE RELATED TO THIS SO LONG AS THEY HAVE NOT PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN.

UM, BASICALLY ANY, ANY SPEAKER I'D LIKE TO COME UP TO SPEAK, YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT, ANYTHING WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO THREE ITEMS, HOWEVER, FOR THOSE WHO SPOKE THE LAST TIME THAT YOU WERE HERE, WE HAD TO, UM, BASICALLY BE HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY.

WE JUST WANTED TO HEAR, WE GOT INTO THE THREE ITEMS THAT GOT CHANGED OR ADDED TO THE, TO THE PROJECT.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CARDS.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY ZOOM, UH, MADAM CHAIR? WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COLORS ON, THANK YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO CALL ON CYNTHIA.

I'M GOING TO ASK HER TO UNMUTE HERSELF RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE HAD SOME TROUBLES.

SO, UM, I AM ASKING HER TO, THROUGH THE ZOOM CHAT, WHICH IS NOT COMMON, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR NOW.

CYNTHIA, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME IS A MUTE YOURSELF AT THIS MOMENT.

WE'LL JUST GIVE HER A COUPLE SECONDS.

ADAM, SHARON COMMISSIONERS.

I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT, UM, UH, FOR NOW HEAR ME.

HI, I'M SORRY.

THIS IS ACTUALLY DAN AND CYNTHIA HUSBAND.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU.

HI.

YES, THIS IS, THIS IS DAN GARCIA.

I'M CYNTHIA'S HUSBAND.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

GO AHEAD.

HELLO? YEAH, GO AHEAD, DAN.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

SO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.

I'VE EXPRESSED TO THEM ON THE CHAT THAT WE CAN HEAR THEM.

THE PHONE LINES ARE DOWN, SO WE'RE HAVING SOME MAJOR TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES GOING ONLY THROUGH SAM.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE TONIGHT.

LOOKS LIKE THEY JUST MUTED THEMSELVES AGAIN.

UM, OH, I'M SORRY.

LIKE I CA I SEE YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.

OKAY, FINE.

I, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME ALL THIS GO.

UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, AND MY WIFE AND I ONCE WANTED TO, UM, SAY THAT WE SUPPORT, UM, THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE COME ON TONIGHT WITH, UM, EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE SAID.

UM, I THINK AS FAR AS TONIGHT'S MEETINGS GO SO FAR HAVE BEEN, UM, A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THERE'S ONLY BEEN TWO QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED, AND ONE IS ON THE SHINGLES OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY AND THE OTHER ONE IS RELATED TO THE TURNOUT.

UM, UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO TABLE, UH, THIS PROJECT, UH, TO THE FURTHER TIME AND WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK MORE TIME TO THE FOLKS THERE THAT, UH, HAVE, OR WOULD LIKE TO, UM, DISCUSS TOPICS THAT WERE NOT EITHER ADDRESSED IN LAST MEETING OR, UM, HAVE SINCE, UM, BEEN RAISED.

UM, UM, SINCE THAT MEETING.

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AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

UH, DARIA DARIA, WELL TO THE FURTHER TIME AND WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK MORE TIME.

AND FOCUSED ON PEOPLE WHO WILL SEND THEIR KIDS TO THE SCHOOL DOWN THE STREET AND NOT SEND THEIR KID TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL SOMEWHERE ELSE, FOCUS ON WHAT YOU WANT YOUR COMMUNITY BE.

HI, THIS IS .

THERE'S A LOT OF EX I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SPEAKING OVER ANYONE.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CHLOE, CHLOE.

SO I HAVE NOT TALKED AND I AM SPEAKING BECAUSE I WATCHED THE CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK.

AND, UM, THERE WERE MANY HOLES IN THE DEVELOPERS.

WE BOTTLED TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT A FACE OR A VOICE TO THOSE ISSUES.

UM, SPECIFICALLY THE FIRST IS THAT I WENT, I'VE LIVED ON LEAVE FOR 30 YEARS.

I WENT TO A ROLE IN TRIBECA AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THE DEVELOPER STATED THAT THEY'RE PUTTING BIKE RACKS INTO THE COMPLEX TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR, TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, TO, UM, RIDE THEIR BIKES.

SO THAT WOULD REDUCE THE PARKING AND THE CAR USAGE.

BUT IN REALITY, AS A YOUNG WOMAN WHO ATTENDED ALL THOSE SCHOOLS, NOT ONCE HAVE I EVER RODE MY BIKE, GO ON JOGS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT AS A PERSON, THERE'S STILL THE REALITY OF GETTING MUGGED, RAPED, ATTACKED.

AND SO I DON'T THINK PUTTING IN A SMALL ENTITY WOULD REALLY CHANGE BEHAVIOR OF THESE PEOPLE MOVING IN.

SECONDLY, UM, THE DEVELOPER STATED OVER AND OVER THE TERM, ECONOMIC VIABILITY, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON MAXIMIZING THEIR GAMES OVERALL.

UM, THAT IS THE REASON THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF HOUSES THEY CAN BUILD AND REALITY.

THEY STATED THE CONDOS WERE NEEDED BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE FACING.

IF WE, FOR LESS PARKING LOT ON EILEEN, THERE'S EIGHT HOUSES, THEY CURRENTLY LIVE THERE.

THEY'RE FILLED WITH PEOPLE.

THAT'S JUST NOT AN ISSUE.

UM, ALSO I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY, OH, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT, GO AHEAD AND MOVE.

YOU CAN'T MOVE.

CALIFORNIA HAS PROP 13 ON OUR TAXES.

I TRY TO MOVE MY TAXES, GO UP.

IT JUST, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR ME.

SO YOU'RE FOCUSING ON THE ECONOMIC CREDIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPERS THAN HELPING THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER, WANT TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND ALSO THE THIRD IS THAT EVERYONE'S TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC REPORT, UM, GREAT TRAFFIC REPORT, BUT IT DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS, SPECIFICALLY HOME REST LEAF, EILEEN ACKERMAN, UM, THOSE AREAS OF TRAFFIC WHEN THEY CUT THROUGH PEOPLE SPEED THROUGH THERE RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE'S ISSUES ALREADY.

SO YOU'RE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF ISSUES THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DIDN'T LOOK AT ALSO TO PUT JUST A VOICE TO THE ISSUES PEOPLE ARE SAYING.

I PERSONALLY HAVE, UM, BEEN ON ROLAND AT THESE INTERSECTIONS.

PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT, BEEN A PASSENGER IN A CAR, GOT HIT.

I'VE ALSO PERSONALLY TOTALED MY CAR ON THIS INTERSECTION BECAUSE AS PEOPLE ARE MAKING YOU TURNS DURING THE MORNING TRYING TO GO TRAFFIC, IT DOESN'T WORK.

IT HASN'T WORKED AND IT DOESN'T WORK.

AND I PERSONALLY COMPLETELY HAVE BEEN IN ACCIDENTS.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING UP.

AND I THINK THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED AND FOCUSING ON JUST WHAT THE ISSUE IS HERE.

RSU IS THE DENSITY.

SO DON'T CHANGE THE ZONING.

WE ARE AWARE THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED, BUT IF THESE ISSUES ALREADY EXIST, WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO EXACERBATE THAT? AND SPECIFICALLY THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT A HOME OWNER VALUE.

I'M AN ECONOMIST INCREASED SUPPLY.

THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE IS AROUND, GOES DOWN.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THE DEVELOPERS SAID IT WOULD INCREASE OUR HOUSING VALUE.

IT DOESN'T.

UM, I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OUR SAFETY AND OUR ABILITY TO GO ABOUT LIVING IN THE CITY THAT WE WANT TO BE A PART OF AND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED.

AND ISN'T GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE THE DEVELOPER STATED WHO DON'T WANT BACKYARDS, WHO WANT TO GO TO WORK, COME HOME.

AND THAT'S IT.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DRIVE THROUGH THE STREETS AND GO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

AND I THINK YOU SHOULD FOCUS ON DEVELOPING AREAS THAT WILL ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY

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AND NONE OF YOU, I DON'T THINK LIVE ON ROLAND CURRENTLY.

AND I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS.

I'VE WATCHED PEOPLE JAYWALK.

I'VE WATCHED THEM, I'VE EXPERIENCED ALL THE ACCIDENTS AND NONE OF THESE ISSUES ARE BEING ADDRESSED.

SO TO ADDRESS THIS IS TO REDUCE THE ZONING.

DON'T INCREASE THE ZONING, LEAVE IT HOW IT IS AND THESE ISSUES WON'T BE EXACERBATED.

SO GO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT DON'T INCREASE THE ZONING.

WE HAVE FEW MORE.

I WILL CALL ON ELIZABETH NOW.

THIS IS DR.

ELIZABETH EMMA HEIZER, AND I'M REPRESENTING COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

THIS YEAR ALONE, COVINA VALLEY HAS UNFORTUNATELY EXPERIENCED A DECLINE FOR ENROLLMENT OF OVER 170 STUDENTS.

THIS PROJECT WILL HELP OUR ENROLLMENT AND SUPPORT OUR OWN ONGOING PROGRAMS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

THE SCHOOL HAS NOT BEEN USED IN ANY CAPACITY BY THE DISTRICT SINCE MARCH OF 2017.

WHEN WE MOVED THE ADULT EDUCATION TO A FULLY MODERNIZED FACILITY DUE TO THE AGE OF THE FACILITY, THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE SITES DO NOT MEET THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT COMPLIANCE OR HAVE HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNECTION.

THEY WERE ACTUALLY USING DIAL UP CONNECTION.

AND WHEN WE CLOSED THE SCHOOL, UM, AND THEY, UH, IT WOULD BE COST PROHIBITED FOR THE DISTRICT TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY.

THE SITE HAS NOT BEEN AN ACTIVE K-12 SCHOOL OVER 40 YEARS.

FINALLY, THE DISTRICT DID PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROJECT AS IT WAS, UM, BASED ON INPUT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MULTIPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

AND THE PROJECT DOES MEET THE DEED RESTRICTION REQUIREMENTS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS EDWARD MILAN.

I AM A RESIDENT AT LEAF AVENUE IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS STAFF.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION AND WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY EXPRESSING MY DISAPPOINTMENT WITH A STATEMENT MADE BY A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE DURING THE MARCH 9TH MEETING THAT NIGHT, THIS COMMITTEE MEMBERS SHAMELESSLY EXPRESSED HIS APPRECIATION, AND I QUOTE FOR ALL THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT LEWIS FAMILY HAS MADE TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AND QUOTE.

I TAKE PERSONAL OFFENSE TO SUCH COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE IT IS SHAMEFUL.

WHEN A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE OPENLY MINIMIZES AND DISRESPECTS THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

TONIGHT, WE AS A COMMUNITY AIM TO BRING THE ATTEMPT TO THE ATTENTION OF THIS COMMITTEE, FACTS AND STATEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE CORE VISION OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.

WE HAVE PRESENTED A WELL-EDUCATED CHALLENGE TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER.

AND WE HAVE GARNERED ENOUGH SUPPORT FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE OUR DISPLEASURE AND DISAPPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN AN ACT OF GOOD FAITH.

WE, THE CONCERNED NEIGHBORS MET TWICE WITH MR. GLENN CROSBY VIA ZOOM.

AND DURING OUR FIRST MEETING, WE ASKED HER QUESTIONS REGARDING OUR TRAFFIC CONCERNS, BY SHARING WITH HIM OVER ZOOM, THE AERIAL MAP OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND EXPLAINING IN DETAIL HOW EVEN NOW UNDER OUR CURRENT POPULATION, THE STREETS SURROUNDING THE PROJECT SITE ARE USED AS DANGEROUS SHORTCUTS TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC ON AZUSA AVENUE, LARKIN AVENUE, AND DURING SCHOOL TIME TO AVOID THE BUILDUP OF TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE TO, UM, YOU CAN HEAR ME, MR. MILAN.

UM, YOU DO NEED TO, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ONLY OPEN FOR NEW RESIDENTS.

IF YOU S IF YOU SPOKE LAST TIME, WHICH I BELIEVE YOUR KIDS, COULD YOU PLEASE STICK TO THE THREE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO, UM, DISCUSS THE BLOCK WALL AND ALSO THE, UM, PLEASE, SO TO SAVE WITH THE BLOCK WALLS AND ALSO THE HOME OWNERS, UM, UM, CHAIR, IF I MAY, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

BECAUSE OUR PHONE SYSTEM WAS DOWN IN THE ZOOM PARTICIPANTS ARE NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU WHEN THEY'RE SPEAKING.

SO THERE, THERE WOULD NOT BE, THERE CANNOT BE ANY INTERACTION THAT THEY CAN VOICE THEIR STATEMENT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO HEAR YOU.

THAT'S WHY HE WASN'T SURE HE, HE'S NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MEETING.

THEY WERE ABLE TO SEND HIM A MESSAGE ON ZOOM.

SO WE'LL GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT TO SEE IF HE CAN RESPOND.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE

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A LITTLE BIT.

I, I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO CATCH UP ON YOUTUBE.

I HAVE YOU ON YOUTUBE AND THERE IS A RATHER LARGE DELAY.

MAY I CONTINUE? YEAH.

I EXPRESSED TO HIM THAT HE HAS TO STICK TO THE, THE TOPICS.

I HAVE ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED AND THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SO ON YOUTUBE, I HAVE YOU ON YOUTUBE AND THERE IS A RATHER LARGE DELAY.

MAY I CONTINUE? I HAVE ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED.

THE, THE PERSON REPRESENTING THE, THE COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT HOW THIS, UM, MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY GAPS IN INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE GENERAL PLAN IN OTHER RELATED STUDIES, AS WELL AS A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE TRANSACTION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND COVINA VALLEY USD, WE NEED TO FIND ANSWERS AS TO WHETHER IT COMPLIES WITH THE SURPLUS LAND ACT.

THE COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT'S THE REQUIRED LAND EXCHANGE COMPLETED ALL THIS MEANS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY GAPS IN CONSISTENCIES WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ALL THE RELATED STUDIES, AS WELL AS A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE TRANSACTION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND FOR MINA VALLEY USD, WE NEED TO FIND ANSWERS AS TO WHETHER IT COMPLIES WITH THE SURPLUS LAND ACT.

WHAT'S THE REQUIRED LAND EXCHANGE COMPLETE AND ALL OF THIS.

NOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE INCONSISTENCIES, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE HOLD OFF APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT.

AND THE SPECIFICS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS MATTER HAD ALREADY CLOSED LAST WEEK.

AND IF YOU SPOKE LAST WEEK, PLEASE TRY TO STICK TO THE NEW ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE NOT SPEAK ABOUT, WHICH IS, UH, TWO OF THEM WAS ON THE BLOCK.

OUR CONCERNS CAN NOT BE, UH, SIMPLY A PIECE BY, UH, OFFERING TALLER WALLS AND BUSHES.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, HOW TO PLEASE TRY TO STICK TO THEM, WHICH IS THAT OUR CONSENTS TO NOT BE SEEN BY OFFERING TALLER WALLS? YES, I APOLOGIZE.

BUT THE GAP, THE GAP, THE TIMING GAP BETWEEN YOUTUBE AND, AND THE ZOOM IS MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO COMMUNICATE.

UM, IT, IT, I'M NOT BEING RUDE BY ANY MEANS.

IT'S JUST THE GAP.

I APOLOGIZE.

NOPE, NO PROBLEM.

WE CAN HEAR YOU THERE.

THERE MAY BE A DELAY ON YOUR END, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU.

SO AGAIN, I JUST RESPECTFULLY APPEAL TO YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS, RIGHT.

UH, JUST, JUST THE LAST STATEMENT, ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT THIS DEVELOPER'S ASKING FOR, HE CAN VERY WELL TURN AROUND AND SELL TO SOMEONE WHO CAN POTENTIALLY ABUSE THE LAND.

THAT'S THE LAST THING I WILL TELL YOU.

SO THAT'S YOUR DECISION, THAT'S ALL THE CALLERS.

OPPOSED ELLA AT THE SAME TIME.

I GUESS WE HEAR FROM THOSE IN FAVOR AND THOSE

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SO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THAT ARE NEW AND, OR WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE NEW, THE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE NEW? IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS IF YOU CAN BE, BUT CHERRY, IF I MAY, UM, YEAH, GO AHEAD FOR THE RECORD.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS ALREADY STATED, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER BOSARA IS ON ZOOM RIGHT NOW.

CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, STAFF AND PUBLIC.

UH, MY NAME IS GLEN CROSBY WITH THE LEWIS COMPANIES.

UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN TONIGHT.

UH, I'LL TRY NOT TO REHASH, UH, SOME OF THE, THE PRESENTATION MATTERS AS WE'VE COVERED THEM.

UH, PRIOR TO THE CONTINUED HEARING, UM, SINCE OUR LAST, UH, MEETING, I DID HAVE TWO MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE MR. MILAN.

UH, HE WAS VERY HELPFUL IN, UH, COORDINATING THOSE EFFORTS.

UH, I THINK MEMBER REACHED OUT AND SAID THAT THAT, UH, OR, UM, UH, MEMBER MENTIONED THAT I DID NOT REACH OUT, BUT, UH, I TALKED TO MR. MILAN RIGHT AFTER THE LAST MEETING.

AND, UH, WE HAD BOTH TALKED ABOUT, UH, GETTING, GETTING A MEETING TOGETHER WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, BUT AGAIN, I DO THANK HIM.

HE WAS, HE WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING ZOOM SET UP, UH, TO MAKE THAT A LOT EASIER.

UH, FOR BOTH OF US, A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO JUST CORRECT RIGHT OFF THE BAT IN TERMS OF, I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT A STOP SIGN THAT CAME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES, THERE'S THERE IS NO STOP SIGN, CAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS, UH, BEING PROPOSED, UH, ANYWHERE ON ROLAND.

UH, THE ONE, UH, MATTER, AND I BELIEVE I BROUGHT, BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE LAST MEETING.

UH, WE, IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE FOCUS TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THE PROJECT, WE INDEPENDENTLY HIRED A TRAFFIC STUDY TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO ANALYZE, UH, ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS HAD BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT IT HAD SOME ISSUES IN YEARS PAST.

AND WE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY DOING A MID-BLOCK INTERSECTION AND TRIED TO STUDY THAT, BUT DUE TO THE SPEEDS AND OTHER ISSUES AND CONCERNS, IT JUST WASN'T FEASIBLE.

AND, UM, THE CITY ENGINEER WEIGHED IN ON THAT AS WELL AND EXPRESS THE CONCERN IN DANGER OF HAVING ANY TYPE OF MID-BLOCK TYPE OF CROSSING, JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GENERALLY EXPECT THAT WHEN IT'S NOT AT A, UH, ESTABLISHED INTERSECTION, UH, SOMEONE ELSE BROUGHT UP THE, UH, PARK, UH, JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE PRIVATE PARK IS NOT SOMETHING THAT RECEIVES CREDIT, WHERE THAT IS A PRIVATE PARK FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

WE ARE PAYING, UH, PARK FEES, UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE PRIVATE PARK AND THAT'S SEPARATE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL OF, UH, MOST, UH, APPLICATIONS, UH, THESE DAYS.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT OBVIOUSLY IS RATHER THAN HAVE A PRIVATE PART, THAT'S JUST EXCLUSIVE TO YOUR PRIVATE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, THOSE FUNDS COULD GO TOWARDS UPGRADING, UH, EXPANDING OR BUILDING NEW PARKS, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

UM, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT REQUESTING A DENSITY BONUS THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN CONTEMPLATED AS ANY PART OF THIS APPLICATION.

AND THAT WAS ALSO CLEARLY ADDRESSED.

UH, AND THE RESPONSE TO COMMENTS IN THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.

UH, ANOTHER ITEM THAT CAME UP, UH, THIS EVENING WAS THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

UM, I KNOW THAT'S TERMINOLOGY THAT GETS BATTED AROUND QUITE A BIT.

NUMBER ONE, THIS PROJECT IS NOT OF SUFFICIENT SIZE TO CREATE A HEAT ISLAND, BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE FOR EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE OVER 200 TREES THAT ARE BEING PLANTED WITH THIS PROJECT, FLOWERING TREES, LAYER, CANOPIES, AND TREES THAT ARE GOING TO SUPPORT POLLINATORS, BIRDS, ALL TYPES OF WILDLIFE.

IT'S NOT JUST GROUND COVER AND TRUCKS WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY IS A HANDFUL OF TREES AND TURF.

AND I THINK EVERYONE, UM, IS AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, TURF IS JUST TO CONSUMER REALLY.

I MEAN, IT'S TURF REQUIRES IRRIGATION.

IT REQUIRES FERTILIZER.

IT REQUIRES MOWING TURF IS SOMETHING THAT BELONGS IN EUROPE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S INCLUDED WITH THOSE SPECIFIC PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES, THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, THE CRITERIA, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT WE CHOSE THAT ARE UP ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, WE CHOSE SPECIFICALLY, I WAS PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT ON THERE BASED ON YOUR REVIEW OF THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES AND SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE EXHIBITED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING US.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PROVIDES A LOT OF BENEFICIAL HABITAT, UH, FOR, FOR ANYTHING.

IT'S A PLAY SURFACE AND IT'S GREAT FOR A SCHOOL.

UH, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT, UH, IT DOESN'T COMPETE WITH, YOU KNOW, A GOOD OVERALL, UH, HABITAT THAT WE, THAT WE'RE TRYING

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TO DELIVER.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PLANT MATERIAL AND THERE'S A FEW HERE UP ON THE, ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT SPECIES OF TREES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO THIS PROJECT.

AND THEY WERE ALL CAREFULLY SELECTED, UH, IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT HEIGHTS AND COLOR SCHEMES AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE PROJECT AND LOCATION, UH, WHERE THEY'RE BEING PLANTED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF FLOWERING PLANT MATERIAL THAT'S INCLUDED, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT.

UH, THE, THE LAST PIECE THAT I WANT TO TOUCH ON FIRST, BEFORE I GET INTO A FEW OTHER RESPONSES WAS JUST I, A NUMBER OF, UH, NEIGHBORS.

AND ALSO SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP TONIGHT, UH, RAISED THE CONCERN OF, OH, YOU KNOW, LEWIS IS GOING TO GET THIS PROJECT TO PLU APPROVED.

WE'LL FLIP TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT IS GET THIS FULLY ENTITLED AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE FOR ANYBODY TO COME IN AFTER THAT AND MAKE CHANGES TO THIS PROJECT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO BE SENSITIVE WITH OUR DESIGN.

WE'RE CARRYING THESE DESIGN IMPLANTS THROUGH THE CITY THAT WILL BE HANDED OFF TO A BUILDER.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD SOME, SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, MS. PEREZ AND OTHERS, AND, YOU KNOW, I I'VE EMPHASIZED, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE HONEST WITH, WITH ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS AND, AND IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND CHANGE THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE A MAJOR, MAJOR PROCESS FOR THEM TO GO BACK THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY WORKED THROUGH, UH, TO DATE ON THIS PROJECT.

UH, I WANNA, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE A COUPLE THINGS HERE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'VE, WHEN WE DEVELOPED THIS PROJECT, WE LOOKED AT, UH, AT LEAST 20 DIFFERENT SITE PLANS.

AND I HONESTLY CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY DIFFERENT PRODUCT COMBINATIONS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF HOUSES AND, UH, ELEVATIONS AND PRODUCT DESIGN.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE ONES WE CAME UP WITH AFTER JUST EXHAUSTIVE AMOUNT OF ANALYSIS.

AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE'RE IN AN INFILL LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROJECT.

AND ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THIS PROJECT, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL.

THAT COMMERCIAL IS NOT PARTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE.

I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THE NORTH SIDE UPON EILEEN THAT LIVE NEXT TO, UH, THE COMMERCIAL TODAY.

I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF THOSE PEOPLE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS THERE.

I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH, UH, PEOPLE HOPPING THOSE FENCES.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH PEOPLE TRAVERSING, UH, THE NORTH SOUTH BOUNDARY, THE POOR MAINTENANCE OF PLANT MATERIAL ALONG THAT NORTHERN BOUNDARY.

THERE'S ALL TYPES OF PROBLEMS. WE'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THAT.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HAVE A THOUGHTFUL AND LOGICAL TRANSITION OF HOUSING TYPES FROM COMMERCIAL, FROM COMMERCIAL TO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED ACROSS THAT SITE.

SO YES, WE HAVE A HIGHER DENSITY TOWNHOME PRODUCT THAT EXISTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH TRANSITIONS TO A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED CLUSTER PRODUCT, WHICH THEN TRANSITIONS TO THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR, UM, SOME OF THE PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE SHOULD JUST BE BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE COMMERCIAL WHEN THERE'S RESISTANCE TO LIVING NEXT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOMES WE'RE PROPOSING.

I MEAN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A HUGE DISCONNECT THERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THERE'S FAIR CONSIDERATION, UH, IN COMPARING THOSE TWO ITEMS. THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT I THINK WHEN WE TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IS, YOU KNOW, THE BUYERS TODAY ARE DIFFERENT THAN, THAN I WAS WHEN I WAS, WHEN I WAS BUYING MY HOME.

AND I'M SURE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF YOU IN THE ROOM, AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY JUST WANT TO LIVE HERE AND GO TO WORK.

IT'S JUST BUYERS TODAY ARE NOT AS ENAMORED WITH LARGE YARDS, THE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS MOWING THOSE LINES, IRRIGATION, REPAIRS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT THERE, THEY LIKE TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY GET TO SPEND A LOT MORE TIME WALKING THEIR DOGS, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN TO LOCAL COFFEE SHOPS, CAFES, THEY'RE JUST NOT INTERESTED IN, AND WE'RE SEEING THIS EVERYWHERE.

THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT UNIQUE TO THIS LOCATION, BUT IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT BUYER TODAY.

AND I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR US TO PUT OURSELVES IN THEIR SHOES.

I, I SOMETIMES STRUGGLE WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S A VERY FOREIGN CONCEPT.

I'VE, I'VE READ BOOKS ABOUT IT.

AND, UH, BUT THE BUYER'S DIFFERENT AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE REALITY OF TODAY.

AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY JUST WANT TO, UH, COME HOME AND GO TO WORK AND DISAPPEAR.

IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T WANT THOSE OBLIGATIONS THAT LARGELY COME WITH, UH, THE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOUSE, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I WANT TO JUST REITERATE.

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AND IT'S A COLLECTIC THERE.

I WOULDN'T SAY THERE'S A SPECIFIC THEME IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'VE TRIED TO MIRROR AND INCORPORATE INTO OUR PRODUCT.

THE SITE DESIGN IN TERMS OF, UH, PARKING WE'VE.

WE HAVE 99 ADDITIONAL UNCOVERED PARKING SPACES.

IN ADDITION TO THE TWO THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR EACH UNIT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'RE IMPLEMENTING, UH, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT, OH, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T DOESN'T HELP IT.

DOESN'T DOESN'T ENFORCE THIS.

I, I MANAGED, UH, AT ONE TIME I WAS A VICE PRESIDENT OF A VERY LARGE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

WE HAD OVER 250 COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

WE HAVE LOTS OF ASSOCIATIONS THAT DID GARAGE INSPECTIONS FIND PEOPLE.

I GUARANTEE YOU, THOSE PEOPLE PARK THEIR CARS IN THEIR GARAGE.

THEY COULD NOT BE USED FOR STORAGE.

IT WAS A REQUIREMENT IN THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS AND THE, EVEN, EVEN THOSE THAT, UH, THERE WERE A FEW ASSOCIATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW IF THEY DID HAVE TWO CARS, IT WOULD GIVE THEM A PERMIT TO PARK THEIR THIRD CAR, UH, IN ONE OF THOSE 99 SPACES.

BUT THAT WAS THE EXCEPTION.

AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE SOLUTION FOR TODAY.

AND, AND WE'RE SEEING THIS ACROSS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS IN RANCHO CUCAMONGA, YOU KNOW, GLENDORA IS HAVING A SIMILAR IMPLEMENTATION.

UH, THESE ARE JUST THE WAYS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THESE, UM, HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCTS AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, CALIFORNIA ON DOWN.

I MEAN, YOU'RE, WE'RE, I WAS ON A CALL EARLIER TODAY WHERE THE CITY IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO MANDATED 30 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THEIR ARENA OBLIGATIONS.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE ON THIS PANEL UNDERSTANDS RENA IS NOT JUST ABOUT GETTING THE AFFORDABLE, THERE'S DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS WITHIN RENA, AND EVERY JURISDICTION IS TRYING TO HIT THOSE UNIT COUNTS.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE INNOVATION OF SOME OF THESE PRODUCTS IT'S COMING FROM, UH, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

AGAIN, WE HAVE A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AGAINST THESE PROJECTS.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE WALL, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, NINE OR 10 FOOT HEDGE ADJACENT TO THOSE UNITS.

THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PRIVACY.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND PART OF THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED DRAINAGE, WHICH HAS COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES.

I KNOW THERE ARE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS OUT AT THIS SITE THAT AT A GRASS DOES NOT PERCOLATE, AND THERE ARE, UH, ISSUES DOWN AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THAT PROJECT.

AND I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBOR THERE DEALS WITH A LOT OF FLOODING THAT COMES OFF THAT SITE WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS STORM DRAIN SYSTEM, WE'RE CAPTURING A WATER THAT'S COMING OFF THE PRODUCT, THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT TO THE NORTH OF US, ALONG WITH OUR INTERNAL, UH, STORM DRAINAGE AND TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. AND WE HAVE DOUBLE BARREL, 60 INCH PIPES THAT ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING THROUGH A LOT OF THESE PARKING AREAS IN ORDER TO CAPTURE THAT, UH, RAINWATER AND STORMWATER.

AND IT WILL BE METERED OUT WELL BEYOND THE STORM PERIODS.

WHAT WE'LL LEAVE OUR SITE WILL BE BETTER THAN IT IS TODAY, AND WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW FOR IT TO BE NO WORSE, BUT I'M TELLING YOU WHAT, THE DESIGN THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN BETTER THAN IT IS TODAY.

UH, ON EILEEN STREET, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC.

I MEAN, NOT ONLY ARE WE RAISING THAT WALL AND LANDSCAPING AT WHERE WE'VE MADE SURE THERE ARE NO PENETRATIONS IN THAT WALL, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS GO THROUGH THIS EFFORT THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND THEN JUST HAVE PEOPLE PARK OUT THERE AND ACCESS, YOU KNOW, THEIR FRIEND'S HOUSE OR THEIR HOUSE ON THAT EILEEN CULDESAC.

SO WE'VE BEEN SENSITIVE TO THAT.

THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE ONLY HAVE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS.

THERE, THERE IS NO EIGHTS, NO OTHER PENETRATIONS ON THAT WALL WHATSOEVER.

AND I THINK BY TAKING IT UP TO SEVEN, SEVEN FEET, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS FROM A COMMISSIONER IS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ADDED, UH, UH, PRIVACY, UH, BENEFIT.

UM, LASTLY, I MEAN, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR GUYS.

WE'RE, WE'RE NOT A GIANT PUBLIC COMPANY.

THAT'S JUST CHASING, UH, QUARTERLY PROFITS.

I KNOW IT'S EASY TO THROW BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS ALL IN THE SAME BUCKET.

LOUIS IS A FAMILY OWNED COMPANY, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, I RETURNED

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AFTER BEING AWAY FROM, UH, LOUIS FOR, FOR MANY YEARS.

AND I CAME BACK BECAUSE WE DO THINGS RIGHT.

I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS, THAT'S THE MANTRA IN OUR OFFICE.

DO YOU KNOW, DO THE RIGHT THING, NOT ALWAYS GOING TO PIECE EVERYONE.

I UNDERSTAND, ANYTIME WE DO AN INFILL PROJECT, IT'S A CHALLENGE.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GETTING USED TO LIVING UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, YOU'VE HAD A LARGE GREEN SPACE NEXT TO YOU CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE BUILD MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES AND WE WORK WITH ALL TYPES OF LAND USES AND WE INTEGRATE THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND WE APPLY THAT TO EVERY PROJECT THAT WE APPROACH REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE.

AND THIS SITE IS CERTAINLY NO DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT OR THE PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, MANY COMMUNITIES, IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN A GOOD EXAMPLE IS LIKE THE ROUTE 66 CORRIDOR IN GLENDORA.

I MEAN, THEY TOOK BACK LOTS OF THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, BLIGHTED CORNERS AND, AND, UH, OLD, OLD, UH, CENTERS THAT JUST WEREN'T FUNCTIONING WELL.

AND THEY PUT IN HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCT, AND YES, THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT TOTALLY OPPOSED TO IT.

AND THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH GLENDORA, THERE WERE PALATIAL ESTATES UP THERE, BUT YOU GO LOOK AT THAT PROJECT TODAY, GO, GO LOOK AT THE ROUTE 66 CORRIDOR.

I MEAN, IT'S THRIVING.

AND THE REASON IT'S THRIVING IT'S BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN THERE AND BOUGHT HOMES ARE GOING DOWN TO THE CORNER OF COFFEE SHOPS.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO THE DRY CLEANERS, THEY'RE GOING TO THE EATERIES.

THEY'RE ALLOWING BUSINESSES TO GET RE-ESTABLISHED, UH, IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT, OH, YOU'RE DOING DENSITIES IS BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

WHAT'S BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT IS LOW DENSITY BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WITH LOW DENSITY IN ORDER TO GET THE SAME NUMBER OF HOMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE UP MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE STREETS, MORE WATER, EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GET TO, TO SERVE THAT FEWER NUMBER OF HOMES.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE THE UNIT COUNT THAT THE STATE IS MANDATING BY TRYING TO DRIVE A LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

NONE, NONE OF THE CITIES ARE GOING TO GET THERE.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I'M OPEN TO, UH, ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS OR, OR, UM, CLARIFICATION'S ON ANY ISSUES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE TONIGHT, UH, OR ANYTHING OF COURSE THAT WAS CARRIED OVER FROM THE LAST MEETING.

UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

AND DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THE APPLICANT? THAT'S IT? YOU'RE THE LAST.

OKAY, WONDERFUL THEN.

UM, YES.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ENTREE BEFORE, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING LET'S HAVE OUR COMMISSIONERS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ALL DEVELOPERS, COULD YOU PLEASE ASK HIM SINCE HE'S HERE? OKAY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, I NOTICED IN THE ELEVATION DRAWINGS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY CONDOS, AS WELL AS FOR THE THREE-STORY TOWNHOUSES, YOU SHOW COMPOSITION, SHINGLE, WHAT TYPE? SO THE COMPOSITION IS A, IS A LIGHTER WEIGHT MATERIAL, BUT IT'S STILL A SEMINOLE TISSUES LIKE POLYMERS.

IT'S NOT, I THINK WHEN PEOPLE HEAR COMPOSITE, YOU'RE PROBABLY THINKING OF ASPHALT SHINGLES AND IT IS NOT AN ASPHALT SHINGLE.

SO FOR WHAT TYPE, IT'S JUST A LIGHTER MATERIAL, LIKE A SEMINOLE VICIOUS MATERIAL.

THE, THE REASON WHY I ASK WHEN YOU GO ON THE INTERNET AND YOU PUT DOWN COMP SHINGLES, THEY CALL UP THREE TAB AND THEN THEY GO INTO, YEAH, IT'S NOT AN ASPHALT SHINGLE.

SO AGAIN, WHAT BRAND, WHAT BRAND OF, YOU KNOW, I COULD BRING THE EXAMPLE.

WE PUT THEM, WE PUT A COPY IN THE, IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF FLAT TILE.

THAT'S RI YEAH, IT'S A FLAT, IT'S A FLAT TILE.

UH, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT HAS SOME RELIEF TO IT.

THE PATH, YOU KNOW, THE PATH THAT TRAVELED THE 48 INCHES, BUT THE UNITS THEMSELVES.

AS A SUGGESTION, IF IT'S A TILE, CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT LOOKS ON THE PAGES THAT WE'RE GIVEN, JUST CALL IT OUT AS A TILE AND JUST IDENTIFIED AS A FLAT TILE.

FAIR ENOUGH.

CAUSE THEN IT MAKES IT CLEAR.

CAUSE EVERYONE'S KIND OF LIKE, OH, I TH THAT'S A, THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT.

I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE A MEMBER MENTIONED EARLIER THIS EVENING, YOU KNOW, OUR PLANS ARE GOING THROUGH AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF SCRUTINY.

AND OF COURSE THIS IS JUST FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

THESE WILL HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED IN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ULTIMATELY, UH, BY, UH, THE BUILDER.

SO ALL THAT WILL GO THROUGH A FULL REVIEW.

TWO OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE, UM, I DID SEE WHERE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS INDICATING IN ORDER TO MEET THE ADA REQUIREMENTS THAT 10% OF THE UNITS NEED TO BE WHERE SOMEONE WHO IS HANDICAPPED WOULD HAVE ACCESS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THE UNITS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, A CLUSTER AND HOW MANY FOR THE THREE-STORY CLASS? I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY OFF, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WHICH UNITS, BUT YEAH, WE'VE BEEN SENSITIVE TO THAT AND WORKING WITH OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND OUR ARCHITECT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT DEDICATED PATH OF TRAVEL TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW.

WELL, SEE, NOT JUST THE PATH OF TRAVEL, UM, WHAT BUILDING, AT LEAST WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AND READING THE CONDITION FOR APPROVAL.

WHEREAS IF SOMEONE IS HANDICAPPED, UH, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE UNIT.

SO I UNDERSTAND

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IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S AN ACCESS ISSUE, ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE TO THOSE UNITS.

WELL, IT IS.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE PROJECT IN GLENDORA, UM, IF SOMEONE IS IN A WHEELCHAIR AND THEY WISH TO BUY, HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO PROVIDE THEM ACCESS TO A UNIT THAT THEY CAN BUY? YEAH.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST AN ACCESSIBILITY.

THOSE UNITS ARE NOT BEING BUILT.

UM, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, TO BEING MODIFIED IN TERMS OF THE INTERNAL, THAT'S AN ACCESSIBILITY TO THE, TO THE UNIT.

THAT, WASN'T WHAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CONDITION THAT BUILDING ACTUALLY HAS ATTACHED.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ALSO TOO.

UM, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE SUBJECT TO THE 2019, UH, BUILDING CODE.

SO, UM, HOW YOU GUYS CAN PROVIDE THE 50% OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY BECAUSE YOUR ELEVATIONS DON'T SHOW USING, UM, ANY TYPE OF SOLAR PANELS.

AND THAT, AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT COMES WITH, UH, THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

WE NORMALLY DON'T INCORPORATE THAT INTO, UH, THE DESIGN DRAWINGS, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THAT, THAT TAKES, THAT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS, UH, ROOFING SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTER WEIGHT MATERIALS.

UM, AND IT'S, IT'S A, AN ENTIRE SPECTRUM OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE THOSE CHANGES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SEAR RATING, UH, ON THE FORCED AIR UNITS.

UH, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A BROAD SPECTRUM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE GENERALLY ADDRESS ON, UH, ON A DESIGN DRAWING LIKE THESE, BUT IT WILL ABSOLUTELY BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PROCESSED THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT.

CHERICE I MAY, UM, CLARIFY REGARDING THE ADA.

ON THE PROJECTOR IS AN, THE FIRST FOUR OF, OF ONE OF THE CLUSTERS IN THE, I BELIEVE THE BUILDING CODE REQUIRES THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A PERSON WHO'S WHO, WHO IS CONSIDERED, UM, DISABLED WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE ON THE SITE AND B THEY ONLY REQUIRE, AND THAT ONLY REQUIRES THAT THEY PROVIDE A BATHROOM AND IN LIVING AREA ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

SO THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED THROUGH PLAN THREE AND I BELIEVE PLAN TWO AS WELL.

COMPREHENSIVE MODIFICATION OF THE ENTIRE UNIT.

DOES ANY OF THEIR ALL PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAS QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT? GO AHEAD.

SO ASK THE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, I GUESS SUBSIDY THE $10,000 HOUSING ASSISTANCE.

SO WHAT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS HOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE NEW PROPOSAL ACTUALLY LIKE FROM, I I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAS CHANGED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE QUALIFICATIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT AS FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH WITH STAFF, JUST SO IT WASN'T, I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT IT WAS GEARED TO JUST TEACHERS OR, OR JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT REALLY WASN'T THE INTENT.

IT WAS JUST REALLY TO, UH, HELP, UH, WITH SOME, UH, COMPONENT OF, UH, 15 UNITS AND PROVIDED $150,000.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ALLOCATED AGAINST THOSE 15 UNITS, HOWEVER APPROPRIATE.

BUT THAT, THAT WAS REALLY THE INTENT.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THESE PROGRAMS WHERE IT HAS BEEN GEARED AND THEY'VE GENERALLY BEEN RUN BY THE CITY, UM, AND WE'VE CONTRIBUTED FUNDS TO THAT PROGRAM.

AND THE CITY HAS ADMINISTERED IT BASED ON PEOPLE THAT APPLY AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK THROUGH DEVELOPING THAT, UH, THAT, THAT PROGRAM INDEPENDENTLY ONLY BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A PROGRAM, BUT WE'VE COMMITTED TO WORKING THROUGH THAT.

UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S USUALLY WHERE IT'S GEARED.

THERE'S JUST SOME PRE-QUALIFICATIONS THAT NORMALLY GO THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICATION.

AND HISTORICALLY, I THINK IT'S BEEN, THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN GEARED TOWARDS, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TEACHERS, JUST BECAUSE THOSE ARE SO MUCH OF THE FABRIC OF, YOU KNOW, NEW COMMUNITIES.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT AND TO HELP BUILD AROUND AND, UM, AND BUILD THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT WE WE'VE, WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THIS PROGRAM AND MAKE IT OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, LOWER INCOME OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, APPLY AND QUALIFY FOR THE HOMES AND JUST AS AN ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE.

I GUESS SORT OF BREAKING THAT DOWN FURTHER IS, IS THIS REALLY GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO, TO, TO, TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HELP PEOPLE WITH TRULY LOW INCOME GET INTO THE, BECAUSE TO ME, IT, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THAT'S THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY IN THE POT TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS,

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I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN FHA LOAN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY PUTTING THREE AND A HALF DOWN ON A PROPERTY, THAT'S WHAT ARE THESE GOING TO GO FORWARD? YEAH, NO, NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT WAS NOT INTENDED SIGNIFICANT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT DOWN PAYMENT ISSUES WHERE QUITE FRANKLY, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE OF $10,000.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT SEEMS JUST SORT OF ME SORT OF, TO ME, LIKE A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY REALLY GOING TO HELP ANY ONE OF TRULY LOW INCOME.

IT SEEMS MORE OF MORE OF LIKE A, UH, A MODERATE INCOME ASSISTANCE KIND OF PROGRAM.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH, WHICH IS FINE.

AND I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO REALLY ENCOMPASS HELPING PEOPLE WITH LOW INCOME.

UM, THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.

IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T INTENDED AGAIN, THERE, THERE ARE NO, UH, LOW-INCOME, UH, CONCESSIONS OR QUALIFICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.

IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT PROVIDED ASSISTANCE, YOU KNOW, TO A BROADER GROUP AS WE COULD, UH, THAT WOULD QUALIFY, UH, TO JUST TO ASSIST WITH, UH, SOME OF THE HOUSING COSTS.

BUT I, I DID HAVE, UH, UH, A QUESTION, UM, SOME SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP, UH, VIEW CONSIDERATIONS AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE ISN'T ANY RESTORY, UM, ANY THREE-STORY BUILDINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE NEARBY, THAT, UH, WOULD OTHERWISE IMPACT, UH, ANYONE'S VIEW ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY SHOULD WE, WHY SHOULD WE PROVIDE THE EXCEPTION HERE FOR A BUILDING? MY UNDERSTANDING IS 45 FEET.

IS THAT, IS THAT THE 25 IS WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN.

I THINK THE TALLEST PLAN, IF YOU GIVE ME JUST A SECOND ON THE ARCHITECTURE, I THINK IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 40 FEET.

SO, SO AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I, I, I LOOK AT PARTICULARLY, I THINK THERE'S SIX HOUSES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT WHO QUITE FRANKLY, WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE AT LEAST SOME, SOME, SOME ACCESS TO, TO A VIEW OF THE MOUNTAIN STRAIGHT AHEAD OF THEM.

SO I GUESS I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

AND HAS, HAS THAT BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED OR, OR DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE VIEWPOINT ACTUALLY IS AND HOW THAT, HOW THAT IMPACTS PEOPLE'S VIEWS AT, AT ELEVATION? I MEAN, AS, YOU KNOW, VIEWS, VIEWS, AREN'T ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, ARE, UH, PROTECTED, BUT, UM, RIGHT.

BUT IN TERMS OF AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF THE PANOPLY OF ITEMS WE CAN CONSIDER.

SURE.

AND THERE HAS TO BE SOME ARTICULATION IN THOSE, IN THOSE ROOFS AND CHANGE OF ANGLES AND, AND HIP HEIGHTS AND THINGS JUST TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THOSE DESIGN CRITERIA WHEN, WHEN WE WERE, UH, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST TIME, UM, THERE WAS, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING THE SEVEN FOOT WALL GO ALL THE WAY AROUND, ALONG WITH, UH, WITH, WITH ADDING IN A, UH, UH, WITH ADDING IN TREES, EXCUSE ME.

AND, AND REALLY THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE DENSITY PROPOSITION.

I MEAN, THE ONLY WAY YOU ACHIEVE DENSITY, UH, THESE DAYS, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, WITH GETTING THE THIRD STORY AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY THE DRIVER, UH, OF THIS, UH, DENSITY AND CONCEPT.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THREE-STORY, UH, PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S PRODUCTS GOING TO FIVE STORIES NOW, SIX STORIES TO ACHIEVE THESE 30 AND 40 UNITS TO THE ACRE, BUT AT THIS KIND OF MIDDLE, UH, WHAT I'LL CALL MID HIGH DENSITY, YOU KNOW, THE THREE STORIES IS REALLY THE ONLY WAY IT CAN BE ACHIEVED.

SO WE HAVE TRIED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT THERE IS 45 IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN, BUT NONE OF THE PLANS REACHED THAT, THAT 45 METRIC.

AND, UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S, IT'S A DELICATE BALANCE IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE OVER THERE.

I MEAN, THIS, THIS PRODUCT, OR THIS PRODUCT SITE, PROJECT SITE COULD HAVE ALLOWED A, UM, A SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THERE CERTAINLY COULD HAVE BEEN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING DOWN IN ONTARIO AND OTHER AREAS WITH THESE, YOU KNOW, VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS AND, AND OF THE WORLD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MULTI STORIES WITH A GIANT PARKING LOT AROUND IT.

AND THEY WOULDN'T BE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THE ENTITLEMENT EFFORT THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH FOR A REASON, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE APPROVED TO BUILD THERE UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE, WE'VE TRIED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT.

IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WHEN WE REVIEWED, UH, THE PLAN TYPES, UH, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN I SPOKE WITH THE OTHER DAY AT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, AND HE WAS ASKING WHY THERE HAS TO BE ANY VARIATION IN THE, BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, ELEVATION STYLES, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE ABLE TO LOWER THE ROOF, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS AND ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS,

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UM, I TH I TH IT WAS THE PORT CARPETS, I THINK, RIGHT.

IF MEMORY SERVES ME.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD GO, WE HAD DISCUSSED POTENTIALLY PUTTING THAT AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF, OF THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.

UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE, THE EASTERN AND THE, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION, I THINK, UP ON THE SCREEN.

UM, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS PART OF, UH, THAT, THAT WAS PART OF ANYTHING THAT, THAT YOU HAD COME BACK WITH, IS THAT, UH, IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS, IS EASILY ATTAINABLE? SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON, UH, AT LEAST THE WAY I INTERPRETED IT WAS THAT THE, THE CUL-DE-SAC ADDING THE POPE PUT A CARPET TO HAVE CONSISTENCY THROUGH THAT, UH, PERIMETER EDGE OF THE COMMUNITY, WHERE IT WAS VISIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORS, NOT SO MUCH, UH, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE PORT OF CORPUS IS PROBABLY, AS YOU CAN SEE THE, ON THE WEST AND THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT BUFFER.

UM, SO THE, THE PORT OF CORPUS WOULD CONSUME A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF THE, OF THE EAST SIDE, WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING THERE WAS TO PUT THE SEVEN FOOT WALL, WHICH CAUSE NOW THAT, THAT WAS THE, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK, IN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, UH, IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT SITE, CAUSE IT'S ABOUT FOUR FEET TALL AND A LOT OF AREAS.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SKIP HOP OVER THAT WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE, BUT IN TERMS OF JUST VISIBILITY AND, AND, UH, TO IMPROVE, UM, JUST THE LOOK OF NOT HAVING A BARE WALL THERE, THERE, WE WILL PUT SOME PLANT MATERIAL UP THERE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, A CLIMBER OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF MATERIAL, JUST SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT A BLANK WALL, WE WILL, UH, INCORPORATE SOME PLANT MATERIAL INTO THAT DESIGN.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS OR, OR PRIVACY ON THOSE SIDES, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE PUTTER CARPETS, BECAUSE WE CAN GET IT UP OVER, UM, THE WALL HEIGHT AND HAVE IT PROVIDE MORE OF A VISUAL PRIVACY BUFFER.

I, I, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHY, WHY DON'T WE HAVE AT LEAST SOME SORT OF BUFFER ON THAT SIDE.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, CLIMBING, CLIMBING PLANTS ON THE WALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UM, TO, TO, TO ME, GIVEN, GIVEN ACKNOWLEDGED ISSUES WITH THAT ALLEY, THAT GOES, THAT GOES BEHIND THE BUSINESSES THERE, I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SUBSTANTIVE THAN JUST A WALL YOU'D PROBABLY WANT, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE ITALIAN CYPRESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, IF NOT THAT PERHAPS BOUGAINVILLE YEAH.

YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH, WITH, UH, TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM NOT SO MUCH PRIVACY, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CORPORATE THE ACTUAL PEOPLE OVER ADDITIONAL OBSTRUCTIONS.

I SEE.

WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S I WAS MISINTERPRETING WHERE YOU WERE GOING THROUGH THAT.

UM, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY, UH, SOME PLANT MATERIAL APPLICATIONS.

I MEAN, BOUGAINVILLE IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY GOOD ONE.

THAT COULDN'T BE ADDRESSED.

THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE, UH, IN ACHIEVING THAT I HAVE THAT ON MY OWN HOME ACTUALLY.

UM, YEAH, SO WE COULD DEFINITELY, UH, LOOK AT SOMETHING ALONG THAT ON BOTH THE, UH, NORTHEAST AND EAST SIDE, UH, TO PUT UP AGAINST THAT WALL TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL, UH, BUFFERING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DETERRENT FROM PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO GET OVER THAT, GET OVER THAT WALL.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND THEN WITH, WITH REGARD TO THAT, THAT PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT, UM, I KNOW AT THE, AT THE LAST, UH, THE LAST MEETING, I THINK WE HAD, WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT AS A, UH, AS AN ISSUE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, PARTICULARLY THOSE ACROSS THE STREET, UM, HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT.

AND, AND I, I CERTAINLY SHARE THOSE CONCERNS.

IT IS SORT OF, UH, IT IS SORT OF A, UH, A ONE-OFF THAT IS, UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, UM, IN, IN, IN MY OPINION THAT THAT'S PART OF THE PROPOSAL.

I I'M, I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THAT ASPECT OF IT.

UM, I PERSONALLY, I, I, I THINK IT, IT, IT SHOULD BE BEHIND ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THERE.

UM, I KNOW YOU HAD ADDRESSED, UM, AT THE LAST, AT THE LAST MEETING CONCERNS ABOUT SOME, SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES, AS I UNDERSTAND IT,

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IF, IF THE, IF, IF THAT, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A SIX PLEX RIGHT THERE.

IF THAT SIX BLOCKS WAS MOVED TOWARD THE STREET, MY MEMORY SERVES ME.

RIGHT NOW AND THE FRONTAGE AREA.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WE DID, WE TOOK THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT SOME SCREENING ON WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THAT PARKING LOT.

UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, AND I, AND I, YOU MADE THAT LAST, UH, LAST MEETING AND SEVERAL HOMEOWNERS DID, UH, NEIGHBORS BROUGHT THAT UP, UH, IN OUR, UH, RECENT DISCUSSIONS.

AND I'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH OUR ENGINEERS OVER THE PAST PAST WEEK, UH, TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO THERE.

AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHIFT THAT ENTIRE BANK DOWN SO THAT THE HOMES WOULD BE BASICALLY UP ON THE FRONT OF THE STREET, JUST LIKE THE FIVEPLEX AND WE COULD MOVE THE DRAINAGE WILL BE BUCKING GREAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE, WE HAVEN'T FULLY DESIGNED IT.

UH, BUT MY ENGINEER'S CONFIDENT WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.

UM, SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A CONCESSION, I, I WANTED TO GET THERE ALL THE WAY WITH THE DESIGN, BUT I WAS LITERALLY TALKING TO OUR ENGINEER ON THE WAY OVER HERE TODAY.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN PLAYING WITH SINCE REALLY, SINCE THE LAST MEETING, BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T EMPHASIZE DRAINAGE IS A TOUGH CHALLENGE ON THIS SITE.

IT'S VERY FLAT AND AS NUMBER OF, UH, NEIGHBORS HAVE BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ISSUES ON ROLAND ALREADY, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN VERY SENSITIVE TO HOW WE'RE DESIGNING THE UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS FOR THIS OR THIS PROJECT.

THAT WAS A VERY EFFECTIVE, UM, SOLUTION.

BUT WHAT THE ENGINEERS HAVE COME BACK TO US WITH IS INCORPORATING SOME OF THOSE SAME CHAMBERS ALONG THE NORTH SOUTH STREET, AS WE'VE DONE ON THE WEST SIDE, AND WE CAN ACHIEVE, UH, SOME OF THE SAME BENEFIT AND METER THOSE OUT THROUGH THOSE CHAMBERS.

SO I'M CONFIDENT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT REVISION IN THE PLAN.

I, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT'LL BE, UH, A MUCH BETTER, UH, COMPLIMENTED.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE ON A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROJECTS.

SO IF WE CAN BRING THAT, UH, SIX PLEX FORWARD TO THE STREET, I THINK IT'LL INTERACT MUCH BETTER OR FOR PEDESTRIANS AND PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET AND HAVING THAT ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT.

ALSO, I LIKE TO ADD TO COMMISSIONER LEWIS, UM, COMMENTS REGARDING THE PARKING, UM, ANY PARTICULAR REASONS WHY WE'RE NOT ALIGNING THE HOUSE ON THE FIRST ROW ON BRULIN TO LINE UP WITH A SETBACK WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW, OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE HOUSES RIGHT THERE, THE SETBACK, THOSE ARE FRONTAGE SETBACK.

WHY ARE WE NOT LINING UP TO THE ONE TO THERE? RIGHT, RIGHT THERE.

WHY ARE WE NOT PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT, STILL LINE UP WITH THE CURRENT EXISTING NEIGHBORS STEP BACK? OKAY.

AGAIN, WE, WE ADDRESS THESE IN ALL, IN THIS SPECIFIC PLAN.

IT WAS REALLY ALL, ALL OF THE SETBACKS.

AND I KNOW, UH, SETBACKS HAVE AS KIND OF COME UP TONIGHT IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE WOULD, DIDN'T CONCEDE ON ANY OF THE SETBACKS.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT ON THE SETBACKS, BUT IF YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SETBACKS, WE'RE LOSING, UH, UNITS.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY JUST A, A FUN.

SO I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS YOU'RE ASKING FOR 158 UNITS IN SOME OF THE RESIDENT HAD HAD CON REALLY CONCERN THAT THEY'RE EXISTING IN THE SURROUNDING HOUSE TO THE NORTH, TO THE WEST, AND ALSO TO THE SOUTH, THE SINGLE RESIDENTIALS, AND THEY'RE EIGHT ACRE, EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.

RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ASKING US TO, TO PRACTICALLY DOUBLE THE UNIT PER ACRE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND CHANGE THE ZONING YOU, YOU HAD TO NOT ONLY THIS PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCENTRATING IT SO MUCH ON THE HOUSING, HOW IT LOOKS, I MEAN, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

HOWEVER, THE MAIN THING THAT WE REALLY LOOKING AT AN APPROVAL IS THE ONE WE'RE CHANGING THE CODE FROM CIVIC, WHICH IS SCHOOLS TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIUM.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY A BIG THING.

NUMBER TWO, IS THAT WE'RE CHANGING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS OUR ONE, TWO PACIFIC PLAN.

SO THESE, I KNOW WE'D SPOKE, I DON'T KNOW.

WE SPENT THREE, FOUR HOURS TALKING ABOUT THE DETAILS OF HOW THIS WHOLE 115 UNITS, BUT REALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ON THESE TWO MAIN ITEMS, WHICH IS CHANGING FROM CIVIC, UM, FROM SCHOOL NEIGHBORHOOD TO MEDIUM NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS INCREASING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT AREA, AT LEAST LIKE COMMISSIONER LEWIS WAS, WAS, UH, WAS CONCERNED REGARDING THE PARKING PUSH, THE PARKING, MAKE IT LOOK SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD

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AND I'M SURE I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT THERE MIGHT BE PUMPED, OR I DON'T KNOW HOW THE ENGINEERING WORK.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE WATER WORKS.

I MEAN, THAT WATERS IS IMPORTANT, BUT YOU NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHINGS THAT'S TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR CONCERN AS WELL, TO SEE HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

AND WE CANNOT, IN A WAY, IF WE CAN PUSH IT TO MAKE IT SOMEWHAT LOOK LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BLEND IN WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO APPEASE THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVES AROUND HERE.

YOU'VE SEEN THEM AND YOU HEARD THEM, AND IT'S NOT LIKE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HEARING THEM.

WE ARE HEARING THEM, BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE THE ONE THAT'S LIVING THERE.

AND IF IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT, YOU MAY GIVE, I MEAN, THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT AND IT'S A HUGE COST TO THE COMPANY, BUT GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR US TO MAKE IT LOOK SOMEWHAT LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE HOWEVER, THAT LITTLE ITEMS YOU MIGHT HAVE TO ADDRESS IT, ADDRESS THAT WHOLE ISSUES.

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE SETBACK CURRENTLY IN THE FRONT SETBACK THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IS I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO ALL THE 158 UNITS SETBACK SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING SETBACK, AT LEAST FROM THE LOT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, AT LEAST ON THE ROLAND AREA, WHICH IS THE FRONTAGE, AT LEAST LINE IT UP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW, OR THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

WHEN YOU GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKWAY, IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT, IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS MORE RESIDENTIAL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEEDED THE THREE STORIES IS BECAUSE YOU WANT PACKED IT MORE DENSE.

PUT THE PARKING LOT ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.

FIRST FLOOR.

THE SECOND IS THE LIVING ROOM OR KITCHEN AREA.

AND THEN THE THIRD IS WHERE THE BEDROOM IS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEED THAT TO COMPACT IT MORE.

HOWEVER, YOU ALSO NEED TO PROVIDE THE RESIDENT, ESPECIALLY THE FRONTAGE, THOSE HOME AROUND THERE, MAKE IT LOOK, YOU KNOW, NOT PUT A PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF IT.

YOU ARE ADDRESSING THAT ISSUES, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, MINE, THE SETBACK SO THAT IT, IT, IT, IT WORKS A LITTLE BIT.

THE OTHER THING WE GOT IN YOURS, YOUR PLANT THAT YOU'LL BE QUESTING FOR IN THE EXISTING PLAN.

NOW THAT WE CONCENTRATED ALMOST THREE TO SIX HOURS.

NOW LOOKING AT THIS PLAN IS THAT YOU ADJUSTED THAT THERE'S ONLY 40 FEET HEIGHT, BUT THE PACIFIC PLAN THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS CAN GO UP TO 45 FEET.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

SO YOU CANNOT REALLY WELL TELLING US THAT, HEY, LOOK, WE'RE ASKING FOR, WELL, YOU ARE TELLING US BECAUSE THIS PLAN IS 40 FEET.

HOWEVER, YOU CAN GO UP TO 45 FEET.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

WE CAN'T WILLY KIND OF HIDE IT IN THERE.

I MEAN, I AM FINE WITH THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE COMBINATION OF HOMES LIKE THAT.

IT'S REALLY NICE THAT YOU ACTUALLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH, NOT SO MUCH TO THE SOUTH, BUT YOU ACTUALLY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION TO KEEP IT TO STORY.

THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ASKING FOR MORE INTO THE COMMERCIAL AREA.

ONLY ONE BREAST DIDN'T MAY BE IMPACTED BECAUSE SUPPOSE SOLAR HURL HIS SOLAR PANEL.

SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF LIGHTING.

YOU'RE BUILDING A THREE STORIES.

IT MAY NOT BLOCKED IT.

IT MAY NOT BLOCK THE SOLAR PANEL BETWEEN THE DISTANCE OF WHAT YOU HAVE AND ALSO THEIR YARD.

THERE ARE LIGHT STUDIES THAT YOU CAN DO TO SHOW THEM THAT THE TREE OR THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL NOT BLOCK THEIR LIGHT.

WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? SOLAR POWER.

POWER.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT THAT'S ONLY, I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY ONE RESIDENT BECAUSE THAT'S THE R UH, THE SIX, THE SIX PLEX RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR NEIGHBOR OVER THERE AND THE AREA ON THE FRONT, IF YOU CAN REALLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME, WE DON'T SEE IT HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAN.

HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEFT OF ROLLING THE HOUSES ALONG THAT AREA, THERE'S SETBACK IN THE FRONTAGE IS A LITTLE DEEPER, BUT THEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE ARE SETBACKS, A LITTLE DEEPER.

I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK IF WE WERE TO FIGURE IT OUT, HOW TO KIND OF LINE IT UP.

SO IT KIND OF BLEND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY NICE.

UM, SO AGAIN, I WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING, THE TWO ZONING THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR, THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR NOT SO MUCH OF THE WELL

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BUILDING TO HOW I WORK WHEN, ONCE WE APPROVE THIS, IT'S REALLY THE TWO ITEMS THAT HERE WE'RE CHANGING FROM CIVIC SCHOOLS TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIUM AND A ZONE CHANGE TOO, FROM SINGLE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH REALLY OWNED THAT AREA.

AGAIN, I'M JUST REPEATING MYSELF IS EIGHT UNIT PER ACRE, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ALMOST DOUBLE THAT I BELIEVE IT'S 15 OR, OR, OR 20 PER ACRE UNITS.

SO IT'S OVER 17, 10 ACRE.

SO IT'S, IT'S 17.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE A BIT OF CHANGE AND, AND YOU, THERE'S QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORS THAT COME OUT AND ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IMPACTING THAT AREA.

AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AS WELL.

SO THOSE THINGS ALSO NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

THE MEANTIME, DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

AFTER THIS ONE, WE LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

MR. BURKE.

SURE.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WE DO A SETBACK AND MAINLY CITY STAFF GRANTS IS IF WE DO A SETBACK, WE WILL ELIMINATE FIRE TRUCK ACCESS.

I BELIEVE UNDER HONOR, THE LAW, A FIRETRUCK HAS TO BE ABLE TO GO INSIDE THAT COMPLEX.

WE DO A SETBACK.

WE ELIMINATE, UH, FIRETRUCKS ACCESS TO, UM, MOVE IN AND MOVE OUT OR THAT ACCESS AREA OR SET BACK IS GOING TO BE, UH, AND I BELIEVE IF I'M MISTAKEN, YOUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT CALCULATED AND TOOK INTO ACCOUNT, UH, THE FIRE TRUCKS AND OTHER, UH, MOBILE, MOBILE ACCESS, UH, ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING IN THERE, LIKE FIRETRUCKS, UM, TRASH TRUCKS AND SO FORTH.

AND, UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, UM, YEAH, THE LENGTH, THE LENGTH OF EVERY SINGLE, UH, MOTOR COURT, UH, THE WIDTH OF EVERY STREET, I MEAN, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CALCULATED ON THIS PROJECT BY BOTH THE ARCHITECT AND THE ENGINEER, AND IT IS A VERY SITE-SPECIFIC, UH, PRODUCT.

AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM, UH, WHAT'S ADJACENT, UH, AS YOU HEAD TO THE WEST.

BUT WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL ELEMENTS AT THE SAME, UH, YOU KNOW, SAME PEDESTRIAN STORY TO HAVE THAT SAME INTERACTION WITH THE STREET.

SO EVEN IF WE CAN'T ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, THE FULL SETBACK, WE CAN STILL BRING IN SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS, STILL HAVE THOSE HOMES ORIENTED IN A WAY THAT GIVES IT THE SAME, YOU KNOW, GENERAL APPEARANCE OF A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND ALSO, UM, LET'S SEE.

AND THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION RULES ON PARKING.

UM, LET'S JUST SAY, UM, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IF LET'S JUST SAY THOSE, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ALLOWED OVERPACKING OF VEHICLES TO OCCUR ON TO NOW BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO USE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ATTACK THOSE ISSUES ON HER LAW.

NO, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE PRIVATE PROPERTY WHEN THEY START SPILLING OVER THEN OF COURSE WE GET STRONG REFERRING TO, AND IF THEY'RE OVER SPILLING AND VEHICLES AND, AND BREAKING CODE VIOLATIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND LET'S SEE.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY ALSO MY QUESTION EARLIER REGARDING THE STOP SIGN.

SO I WAS ASKING CITY STAFF, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A STOP SIGN ON ROLLING.

THAT WAS NOT MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE GOING TO BE A STOP SIGN WHEN THE VEHICLES ARE EXITING THE COMPLEX, SO THEY DON'T HIT A PEDESTRIAN WALKING ON THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK? SO I THINK THAT ANSWERS YES.

CORRECT.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IT WILL BE, MY QUESTION WAS NOT ASKING ABOUT STOP SIGNS ON ROLLING, BUT RATHER THE VEHICLES EXITING THE NEW COMPLEX TO ENSURE THAT THEIR RESIDENTS DON'T GET RUN OVER WHEN THEY'RE CROSSING THE SIDEWALK, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK, RIGHT.

ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LINE, THAT THERE IS A STOP SIGN.

SO VEHICLES COULD STOP AND LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE DOING THEIR TURN ONTO THE STREET.

UM, ALSO CAN CITY STAFF, UH, EXPLAIN, UM, THE REGIONAL HOUSING MANDATE ONCE AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT ON IT OR REGIONAL HOUSING MANDATE.

TO, UM, AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID, MAKE, UH, ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, CITY'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF, AND I THINK OUR NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT OVER 5,000, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT.

COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ.

SO THE CITY IS REQUIRED

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I KNOW JOANNE CAN PROVIDE THAT NUMBER.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE TO MAKE THOSE NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, AVAILABLE FOR CONSTRUCTION SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE CITY.

AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, AND, AND I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FAST CARS IN THAT STREET AND I, AND I AGREE WITH THE RESIDENTS ON THAT.

SO MY QUESTION IS JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL RESIDENTS ARE FARMING, HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.

LET'S JUST SAY, UM, THERE'S A RESONANT WHO HAS A IDEA AND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE SHOULD BE A CROSSWALK THERE, OR THERE SHOULD BE, UH, MAYBE, UH, UH, A STOP SIGN RIGHT THERE ON ROLLING.

WHAT'S THE PROCESS, WHAT'S THE, WHICH, WHAT DOES A RESIDENT DO, UH, TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY AND WHICH DEPARTMENTS SHOULD THEY CALL TO SUBMIT A REQUEST AND, AND DO A AND WHAT'S PROCESS? I MEAN, SO THEY COULD BE VERY INFORMED AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A TRAFFIC COMMITTEE, UM, ANY REQUESTS FOR ANYTHING FROM, UH, MAKING STREET PARKING TO, FROM, TO PERMITTED STREET PARKING, UM, TO LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS, INTERSECTIONS GOES TO THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE.

AND I THINK JANET CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT PROCESS, RIGHT? SO I COULD ANSWER, SORRY, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

AND PAULINE IS CORRECT.

WE DO HAVE A TRAFFIC COMMISSION THAT MEETS EVERY MONTH, THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

AND PUBLIC IS WELCOME AT THIS TIME, UH, BECAUSE OF COVID, IT'S KIND OF A CALL AND THING, BUT WE DO RESIDENTS CAN WRITE TO THE CITY EMAIL OR BRING A NOTE INTO THE DEPARTMENT AND IT GETS TO US AND THEY CAN INITIATE AN ENGINEERING REVIEW OF CERTAIN, UM, TRAFFIC, COMMON CALMING AREAS.

AND THEN, UH, WE WOULD TAKE THAT, UM, REQUEST AND STARTED ENGINEERING REVIEW, WHICH COULD LOOK AT, UM, EXISTING CONDITIONS, COLLISIONS ACCIDENTS, PARKING, WHAT THE ISSUE IS AFTER WE HAVE UNDERTAKEN AN INITIAL REVIEW, THEN WE TAKE IT.

WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, FOLLOWING GUIDELINES, CALIFORNIA, MUT, CD GUIDELINES, CALIFORNIA, VEHICLE CODE, ALL, ANYTHING WE RECOMMEND HAS TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS.

WE TAKE IT TO THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION.

THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION HAS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SITS IN THE CITY ENGINEER, TRAFFIC, AS WELL AS PUBLIC.

THEY CAN, UM, DISCUSS THE ITEM IF IT'S APPROVED AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE APPROVED, THEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL, FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

IN FACT, WE ARE DOING, UM, AS A REQUEST OF RESIDENTS AT THE WESTERN SIDE OF ROLAND, THEY DID ASK FOR US TO REVIEW SOME TRAFFIC CALMING ON ROLLING.

SO I KNOW SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE EMAILED ME SAYING THEY NOTICED THAT WE DO HAVE SOME TUBE COUNTS BEING COUNTED RIGHT NOW ON THE STREET.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SPEED.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ADT SO THAT WE CAN, UM, START THAT, THAT PROCESS.

AND ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION, AND THAT'S GREAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY RESIDENT WATCHING THE HERE TODAY AND WATCHING AT HOME THAT IF YOU DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT PUTTING A STREETLIGHT THERE OR CROSSWALK TO YOU, YOU USE THE SYSTEM THAT THE TAXPAYERS HAVE PAID FOR, THAT THAT'S IN PLACE NOW, AND THAT YOU DO A, WRITE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT YOU BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR IF IT'S ROLLING OR ANY STREET IN THE CITY OF WEST SWEDEN, BECAUSE CITY STAFF AND, AND THIS COMMISSION AND, AND, AND, AND THE CITY CONSOLE STAYS COMMITTED ON HEARING THE VOICES OF ALL RESIDENTS.

AND I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

UM, LET'S SEE, UM, YOU MEAN CARTS TO THE REGIONAL HOUSING MANDATE AGAIN? UM, IS THERE, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS 5,346 HOUSES, OR WE NEED TO, UH, BUILD IN THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.

CORRECT.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? OKAY, GREAT.

AND SO WE, I MEAN, THE CITY HAS A REQUIREMENT AND AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HITTER RESIDENTS' CONCERNS.

AND, AND I THINK THE LEWIS COMPANY, LIKE I SAID, LAST TIME, THE LEWIS COMPANY IS GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BE WILLING, TO WORK WITH US, TO HEAR THE, THE, THE RESIDENT'S CONCERNS.

AND, AND THEY HAVE HAD IT, UM, MORE GREENERY

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IN THE DEAD-END.

THEY HAVE ENSURED THAT THAT'S ONLY A FIRE ACCESS, EXIT AND ENTRANCE.

AND IN MOST CASES, A FIRETRUCK WILL, RATHER THAN WHETHER OR NOT RACE IT'S RACE, IT'S TIME BY GOING THE LONG WAY AND PUTTING THE KEY IN AND COLD IN AND GETTING ACROSS THE OTHER SIDE.

THEY, UH, IN MOST INSTANCES, THE FIRETRUCK WILL GO ON THE MAIN STREET AND GO RIGHT IN.

AND, AND SO I THINK WE'D HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE, WE, AS A CITY HAVE A REQUIREMENT ON THE HOUSING MANDATE, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE CITY MEET ITS REQUIREMENT.

AND I THINK AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE VOTERS.

AND, AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, ESPECIALLY AT OUR LAST MEETING IN ENSURING THAT WE SHARED IDEAS AND GO REGARDING A SEVEN, A SEVEN FEET WALL BY THE COMMERCIAL SPACE AREA.

I SAW THAT IN THE DESIGN, CAN WE PUT THE DESIGN UP WITH THE TWO FRONT DESIGN? SO THE ON ROLLING.

I LIKE HOW THEY LOOK THERE SHOWS A THREE-STORY AND THEN TWO STORIES.

SO IN THIS SOCIETY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IF I'M ACROSS THE STREET, I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE, THE HOUSING PROJECT, THE HOUSING ON THE TOP LEFT WILL BE ON THE LEFT SIDE.

AND THE HOUSING ON THE BOTTOM, THE BOTTOM PICTURE OF THAT WILL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WHICH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE TALLER BUILDINGS WILL BE MUSLIM, MOSTLY IN THE VIEW OF COMMERCIAL SPACES.

AND THAT THE OTHER TWO STORY HOUSES WILL BE MOSTLY IN THE VIEW OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THAT'S A GREAT CONSIDERATION THAT YOU TOOK INTO EFFECT.

AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE THE RESIDENT'S VIEWS ARE, ARE, I MEAN, THEY'RE THEIR VIEWS FROM THEIR HOUSES THAT THEY INVESTED IN FOR SO MANY YEARS IS SO IMPORTANT.

AND I THINK THE LEWIS COMPANY FOR MAKING A DESIGN THAT INPUTTED THAT ASPECT INTO THIS PROJECT, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND, AND HOPEFULLY LATER, LATER IN THIS MEETING AND MY COLLEAGUES WILL, WELL, WE'LL MAKE A DECISION THAT'S BEST FOR EVERYONE.

AND, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATIONS OR WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT IN WHICH WE ARE, AND I AM, AND, AND I THINK MY LAST AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND THAT'S WHY I AGREED TO THAT WE SHOULD PUT SEVEN FEET WALLS ON THE COMMERCIAL SPACE AREAS AND THE, IN THE DEAD END AREA ON AN EILEEN STREET THAT WE SHOULD PUT A BEAUTIFUL GREENERY THERE.

SO THE HOUSES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF EILEEN COULD SEE A DEAD END STREET, NO LONGER DEAD GRASS OR FANCY.

NOBODY SEEN A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL GREENERY WALL, UH, THAT ENHANCES THEIR STREET.

AND, AND THEY'LL SEE A MIDDLE, A MIDDLE ENTRANCE JUST FOR FIRETRUCKS IN CASE OF THE WAR SOURCE SCENARIOS THAT COULD HAPPEN.

AND, AND, AND SO I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

I THINK WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PRESTERA THAT HAS SOME QUESTIONS.

AND AFTER HER, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A RESTROOM BREAK FOR FIVE MINUTES.

JUST ASKED HER TO UNMUTE HERSELF.

SO, UM, WE'LL GIVE HER A COUPLE SECONDS AS WELL.

UM, WHEN SHE GETS BACK, WE CAN CONTINUE ON JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN SHE GETS BACK ON THE PHONE.

SO BASICALLY, UM, I WANT TO, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTIONS, FALL DEVELOPER AS WELL.

UM, RESIDENTS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

TO SOME EXTENT, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO MUCH ABOUT TRAFFIC TO SOME EXTENT, BUT PARKING THEY'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING.

UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S 158 UNITS, MAJORITY OF THE HOUSE OVER THERE REQUIRED TWO PARKING, EACH UNIT.

AND, UM, HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE LARGER UNIT, THEY NORMALLY REQUIRE THREE PLUS PARKING IN THIS SITUATIONS RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST ASKING, UM, WITH CURRENTLY WE, YOU WILL GIVEN US HOW MANY PARKING, TOTAL PARKING, NOT GUEST PARKING THE PARKING IN THE UNIT ITSELF, BECAUSE WE HAD 158 UNITS TIMES IN 16 OR TO 316 PARKING, RIGHT.

THAT'S 99 ADDITIONAL SPACES.

SO WE'RE EXCEEDING STANDARD.

BUT SO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IS TOTAL OF IT.

LET'S SAY THAT IF IT'S 158 TIMES THREE, THAT'S 474

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UNITS AND YOU HM.

ALL HUNDRED AND 15 UNITS PARKING SPACES TOTAL.

UM, WHEN YOU SAY YOU EXCEEDING, UH, THE PARKING SPACES, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE SOME DEVELOPMENT IN A SINGLE RESIDENTIAL AREA, IF WE HAVE SO MANY BEDROOMS WERE REQUIRED TO ADD MORE PARKING SPACE, UM, IT'S NOT ALL COSTS THE BOARD THAT IS TWO BEDROOM THAT IT'S, UH, THAT ARE NEEDED FOR EACH UNIT, BUT IN YOUR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, YOU JUST COME UP WITH TWO UNITS.

I MEAN, TWO SPACES FOR EACH UNIT THAT MEANS 316.

HOWEVER, IF YOU WERE TO DO FOUR, UH, THREE PARKING SPACES PER UNIT, THAT BRINGS US UP TO 175 UNITS OR 75, THAT'S JUST REGULAR PARKING.

HOWEVER, YOU INCLUDED THE GUESTS, WHICH IS THREE 16, PLUS THE FOUR 15, I'M SORRY, THREE 16.

PLUS THE 99, YOU COME UP TO BE FOUR 15.

SO IN A TRUE SENSE, THAT MIGHT BE TWO RESIDENTS MIGHT BE, SEEMS A LITTLE SHORTAGE OF PARKING SPACE.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR PLAN AND SOMEHOW WONDERFUL, MORE PARKING SPACE OVER THERE? WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY STANDARD.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE DESIGNED BASED ON THE CITY STANDARD AND WE EXCEED WHAT'S REQUIRED IN THE SP AS WELL BY 20 SPACES.

THEN YOU SAID A CITY STANDARDS, HOWEVER, THIS IS A ZONE CODE CHANGE.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY SCRAPPING EVERYTHING AND COME UP WITH NEW, NEW PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLAN.

RIGHT? SO FOR WHAT THEIR STATEMENT SAYING, YOU'LL BE, YOU'RE TRYING TO FULFILL WHAT THE CITY CODE IS.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A CODE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF, UM, SOME TYPE OF, YOU CAN SAY, WORK TOGETHERS WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO SATISFY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, SOME OF THIS AREA.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS HIGHER ALREADY.

WE'LL BRING IN NORMALLY THE HEIGHTS OF WEST COMMUNITY FOR SINGLE RESIDENTIAL IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

IT'S ONLY 25 FEET.

YOU KNOW, THAT MORE THAN US WE'RE IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT, THIS PLAN WILL GO UP TO 45 FEET THAT INCREASE OF HEIGHT.

CAN YOU COMPENSATE IT SOMEHOW TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING? YEAH.

WHAT, UH, W I'M SORRY.

POINT WAS THE WORD WE'RE EXCEEDING BOTH THE EXISTING FOR THE TYPE OF PRODUCT WE'RE BUILDING, WHERE WE'RE EXCEEDING THE EXISTING CITY STANDARD AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN REQUIRES.

SO THE PROPOSED, EVEN THE PROPOSED PLAN THAT WE HAVE WITH THE NEW CRITERIA, WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT ALSO BY 20 UNITS.

SO WE'RE ALREADY ABOVE THE NEW STANDARD AS WELL.

SO FOR THE THREE, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THREE OR FOUR BEDROOMS IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, JOANNE, UH, STAFF, CAN YOU PLEASE, UM, TELL US WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENT FOR, FOR THOSE TYPES OF SINGLE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT? HOW MANY GARAGES ARE WE DO WE NEED IN THE ZONE? YES.

UM, OKAY.

SO IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THE SURROUNDING AREA, OVER IN THE R ONE ZONE IN THE R ONE ZONE, A TWO CAR GARAGE IS REQUIRED.

UM, THAT'S AT LEAST 20 BY 20, IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE LESS THAN NOT MORE THAN FOUR BEDROOMS. OKAY.

SO IF IT'S A FULL BEDROOM, THEN WE ARE REQUIRED MORE PARKING SNOW.

IF IT'S A FIVE BEDROOM THAN A THREE-CAR GARAGE IS REQUIRED, FIVE BEDROOM IS THREE CAR GARAGES, AND THEN ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE UNDER FOUR BEDROOMS. YES.

AND IN, IN ALSO, AND, AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEETING, UH, THE CITY'S LAW STANDARDS UNDER THE COLD AND ALSO SURPASSING, UM, FOR THE GARAGE SPACE.

OR THE GARAGE SPACE, UM, IN, ALSO IN THE CITIES, IN THE CITIES, UM, UM, OUR ONE STANDARDS, IN ADDITION TO THE GARAGE SPACE, A TWO CAR GARAGE IS REQUIRED.

UM, I'M SORRY.

AT TWO CAR PARKED PARKING SPACE IS REQUIRED ON THE DRIVEWAY AS WELL.

SO, SO FORTH.

THAT'S IN THE ALL DEVELOPMENT AREA.

YOU'RE SAYING YOU NEED TWO GARAGE SPACES.

IN COVERED PARKING SPACE ON THE DRIVEWAY.

PARDON INSIDE THE HOUSE ARE COVERED.

TWO MEANT TO UNCOVER

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THAT'S IN THE CODE THOUGH.

NOT THE PRODUCT TYPE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE R ONE DESIGNATION, THAT'S ALL ONE.

SO THAT'S LIKE YOU, CAN YOU SEE WHAT THE RESIDENTS' CONCERNS ARE BECAUSE THEY DO LIVE IN THE ZONE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS VERY UNIQUE IN A SENSE THAT RIGHT NEXT TO IT, IT'S COMMERCIAL.

I ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THAT.

I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT FOR THREE OF THE SIZES OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY ARE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL.

SO THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVE IN WESTWARD, IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE PACKED AND THERE ARE SOME AREA THAT YOU HAD TO WALK THREE FULL BLOCKS.

YOU WILL PARK BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING SPACE, YOU WILL PARK THREE FULL BLOCKS AND THEN WALK DOWN TO WHEREVER YOU NEED TO GET TO IT.

SO IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE RESIDENTS ARE SEEING THAT THIS MIGHT BE AN IMPACT TO THEIR, TO WHERE THEY'RE LIVING.

AND I HOPE YOU SEE THAT.

AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT, OKAY, WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR WHAT THE CITIES ARE ASKING FOR.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE CODE TO FIT YOUR NEEDS.

FOR EXAMPLE, YES.

YOU'RE GIVING US TWO PARKING SPACES, BUT THAT'S THE MINIMUM PARKING SPACE.

THERE'S NO GUEST PARKING SPACE.

IN THIS CASE WITH THE GARDEN, THE CALCULATION, YOU NEED FOUR PER UNIT JUST TO, AND THE COVER IN TWO AND THE FRONT NOT COVER.

SO REALLY HOW MANY IS THAT? SO CAN YOU MEET SOMEWHERE AND ADDRESS THIS TO THE RESIDENT, COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

AND BY THE WAY, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, I DO AN ALL COMMISSIONER HERE AND STAFF, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, WE ARE REQUIRED TO ADD UNITS, GIVE US BEAUTIFUL UNITS.

WE WILL GIVE YOU THE UNITS.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WORKING WITH YOU.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS BASED UPON OUR PERSONAL BELIEF.

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON OUR OWN, ARE MAKING THOSE, UH, WE ARE MAKING NUMBER ONE AND THEN END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ALSO THAT IT'S A, IF THE RESIDENTS, WE, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT WE CONTINUE TO POSTPONE THESE MEETINGS AND ENJOY OFF.

UH, I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO NEED HOUSING.

IF YOU GO ON ONLINE, THERE'S NO HOUSING.

WHERE ARE YOU? MINIMUM HOUSING? THERE WAS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS.

I MEAN, HOW MANY NOTICES WENT OUT TO CITY STAFF REGARDING THIS PROJECT? IT WENT OUT TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORS WITHIN 300 FEET.

SO DO WE KNOW HOW MANY MEN, HOW MANY OF THOSE OVER A THOUSANDS OR WHAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AROUND 60, 60 PEOPLE.

BUT THEN IN THE CITY OF WEST, WHEN WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED AND 300,000 PEOPLE, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN AGAINST US AT THE LAST MEETING? 16, 16, 16 OF THE HUNDRED AND OVER A HUNDRED AND 300,000 PEOPLE OF THE CITY HAS SPOKEN AGAINST THIS.

AND SO, SO YEAH, SO I THINK IT'S FAIR.

I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE COME TO OUR SENSES AND MAKE A DECISION.

WE CAN'T, WE EITHER TELL THEM YES.

OR YOU TELL THEM NO, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY NEED TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND GO TO EITHER SCHOOL TO THE CITY CONSOLE OR, OR OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO GO TO THE CITY CONSOLE AND ASK FOR APPEAL OR, OR THEY NEED TO GO.

I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT WE CONTINUE AS A COMMISSION, A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, WE HOLD THIS PROJECT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR AT ALL.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON ANY DECISIONS YET, SO FAIR OR UNFAIRNESS IS NOT UP TO DISCUSSION AT THIS MOMENT.

WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION.

I AGREE.

I JUST, I'M JUST SEEING THAT WE'RE RUNNING OUT, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

IT'S ALMOST, WE'RE NOT RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT PER SE.

WE NEED TO GET THIS AND WE NEED TO GET IT HEARD BY THE PUBLIC.

AND ALSO, ALSO AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS.

AND, UM, IF COMMISSIONERS HAS QUESTIONS WE NEED TO CONTINUE.

YES, I AGREE.

AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

I HAVE 16 PEOPLE SPOKE OF THE A HUNDRED AND 300,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OUR CITY.

WE HAVE TO TAKE, WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, COMMISSIONER LEWIS, PLEASE.

I'M SORRY, CHAIR.

IF I MAY ANSWER IT, GO AHEAD.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OR THE HEARING NOTICE.

UM, THERE WERE 59 PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

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SO 59 PEOPLE GONE NOTICES AND ONLY 16 ARE SPEAKING AGAINST IT.

AND IN ADDITION, AND ALSO IN, SORRY, IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES THAT STAFF MAILED OUT AND ALSO PUBLISHED THE HEARING NOTICE AND THE NEWSPAPER ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND ALSO ON THE SITE, UM, A MAJORITY, UH, IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT A MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO WERE NOTIFY THEN NOT SPEAK AGAINST THIS PROJECT TONIGHT, OR THE LAST MEETING, CORRECT.

MISHA COTY IS WE'RE NOT MAKING A VOTE RIGHT NOW.

I UNDERSTAND.

UM, NO, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT ASKING YOU.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST CLARIFYING, JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, MY ANSWERS AND THE QUESTIONS.

SO A MAJORITY OF THE, I'M SORRY, THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO GONE NOTICES DID NOT COME AND SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.

THEY GOT NOTICES.

THE CITY DID ITS JOB.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, THANK YOU, UM, COMMISSIONER LIVIA, ONLINE YET.

SHE, UM, SHE IS NOT ABLE TO CONNECT, SO SHE SAID IT'S FINE.

UH, SO YEAH, I, I DID HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

UM, SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AT THE, UH, AT THE LAST HEARING, UM, WAS, UH, UH, I THINK CLAIRE CLERESTORY WINDOWS, UM, WITH HER, WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE BACK, THE BACK VIEW OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND ATTACHED TO UNITS.

A QUESTION I HAD WAS I THINK THERE'S TWO UNITS UP IN, YEAH.

THOSE TWO UNITS RIGHT THERE.

UM, PREVIOUSLY I THINK THERE WAS, I THINK AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WE HAD DISCUSSED POTENTIALLY, UH, MAKING A REQUIREMENT THAT, THAT THOSE BECAUSE OF THE ORIENTATION WOULD HAVE THE, UH, THE, THE CLERESTORY WINDOWS WINDOWS THERE AS WELL.

UM, I, I, AND I, AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS AN ISSUE, UM, THAT, UH, THAT SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP, UM, THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY COVERED BY, UM, BY YOUR PRIOR DESIGN, WHICH I, I, I DO AGREE THOUGHTFULLY CONSIDERED THAT ASPECT OF THINGS.

AND PART OF, PART OF THAT WAS THE, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE PROXIMITY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HOW CLOSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SIDE ON CONDITION.

WHEREAS, WHEREAS THERE'S A BIGGER SEPARATION WITH, UH, THE UNITS UP THERE THAT, THAT AREA REFERRING TO, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

I HAVE TALKED TO THOSE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THE PART OF THE DRIVING FORCE OF US MAKING THAT CHANGE WAS IN RESPONSE TO FEEDBACK FROM THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT WE SPOKE TO AT THE MEETING, THAT THAT WAS WHAT DROVE THOSE CHANGES.

SO, UM, I THINK THOUGH, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WAS CONCERNING ABOUT THAT ASPECT OF THINGS, AT LEAST, AT LEAST FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT IT, IT JUST, AND, AND I, I DON'T THINK ANYONE DID THIS INTENTIONALLY, BUT I THINK THOSE TWO UNITS DIDN'T INCLUDE, UM, CHANGES IF MEMORY SERVES ME.

OH, THAT'S, THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT THAT THOSE, THOSE TWO UNITS, UM, UH, WE DID NOT MAKE MODIFICATIONS ON, ON THOSE SIDES, UH, TO THOSE.

AND I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

HONESTLY, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THOSE, UH, IN THAT SAME, UH, SAME LIGHT ONLY AGAIN, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE, OR THE ONES THAT BROUGHT IT UP ON THOSE PARTICULAR PLANS.

SO IT WAS JUST SOMETHING WE DIDN'T LOOK AT, BUT BE HAPPY TO, TO PUT SOME FOCUS ON THOSE TWO PARTICULAR PLAN TYPES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THOSE WINDOWS TO ADD ONTO THOSE CLEAR STORIES.

COMMISSIONER LEWIS HAD ALSO ON THE SIXTH UNIT NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORS UP THERE, THEY HAD MENTIONED BECOMING, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR PRIVACY AS WELL.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO THAT ON THE SIX FLEX NORTH CORNER, NORTHEAST CORNER.

WELL, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE RESIDENT AND ALONG THE NORTH SIDE, I FORGOT WHICH ONE IT WAS IF YOU, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S SO TIGHT, I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE, OH, MAYBE IT'S CLOSER TO THE CO-DESIGN.

A MIX, UH, WITHIN THE, THE PRODUCTS I'D HAVE TO GO BUY A PLAN, BUT THERE'S A VARIETY OF, YOU KNOW, BOTH PORCHES AND PATIOS AND DECKS WITHIN THOSE PLANS THAT OFFER A VARIETY.

IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO IT, I'VE MET WITH THEM.

I'VE MET WITH THAT GENTLEMEN THERE.

AND THAT, AGAIN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE MODIFIED THE OKAY.

SO IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE THOSE ARE TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL.

UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE ALSO, I HAD ASKED, AND WE HAVE BILLY, UH, START TALKING ABOUT IT IS THE PERSONAL SPACE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GIVE A LITTLE PARK, SOMEWHAT OF A PARK INSIDE, BUT A PERSONAL SPACE FOR, FOR THESE UNITS.

HOW MANY HAVE A BALCONY AND HOW MANY DOES NOT OUT OF ALL THESE UNITS? YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S

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AND THEN SOME OF THE UNITS, AS YOU CAN SEE, HAVE CONSIDERABLE YARDS, EVEN, EVEN ON THE, UH, FIVEPLEX AND SIX PLEX UNITS, YOU CAN SEE THE END UNITS HAVE A PRETTY GOOD USABLE SPACE AS THE, IN UNITS.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DO HAVE AN APP BECAUSE OF THE YARDS AND ALSO THE SETBACK THAT YOU HAVE TO FULFILL THAT REQUIREMENT.

HOWEVER, UM, CAN YOU PULL THAT UNITS UP THE INNER UNITS BETWEEN THE TWO, THE SETBACK PLAN, THE ORIGINAL ONE THERE? I DON'T THINK THOSE UNITS HAVE ANY SPACE, PERSONAL SPACE.

HE WOULD HAVE LIKE A PRIVATE, LIKE A COURTYARD AREA OR DECK AREA THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO THOSE PLANS.

BUT YEAH, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE A REAR YARD IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

NO, UM, A PERSONAL SPACE, IF IT'S A DECK OR THAT OH, SORRY.

SO THOSE UNITS, I CAN'T REALLY TELL TO SEE IF THEY HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME SORT OF PERSONAL SPACE.

CAUSE YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO LIVES IN THEIR MIND HAVE DOGS AND IT'S NICE TO HAVE A PERSONAL, OTHERWISE YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO BE WALKING ALL AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LEAVING EXTRA STUFF FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

SURE.

YEAH, NO, THERE ARE PORCHES AND COVERED DECKS.

IT JUST IT'S IT'S PLAN BY PLAN.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR COMPONENTS THERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR COMPONENTS, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE.

I LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY DO NOT HAVE THOSE PERSONAL SPACE, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE SINCE IT'S A COMPACTED UNIT, WE REALLY KNEW NEED TO LOOK INTO A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING FOR THEM.

WERE MENTIONING THE BUILDING CODE EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BUILDING CODE, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES.

I MEAN, I CAN GET YOU AN ITEMIZED BREAKDOWN OF THOSE, UH, PRODUCTS FOR YOU, BUT EVERY UNIT HAS EITHER A COVERED DECK OR PORCH OR COMBINATION THEREOF AND, UH, MINIMUM, UH, PRIVATE SPACE.

AND THAT'S PER THE, AND THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN.

SO, I MEAN, THESE HAVE ALL BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN.

SO IF YOU, IF YOU REVIEW THE, THE CRITERIA THERE AND, UH, THE PACKAGE, UM, ALL OF THESE PLANS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO SPECIFICALLY MEET THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES OF THIS SPECIFIC PLAN.

I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS POSSIBLE DO IT ON SOME PROJECTS, BUT NOW YOU'RE INTRODUCING STACKING AND ALL TYPES OF, OF, UH, DIFFERENT TRAFFIC INTERACTIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AT EACH ONE OF THOSE ENTRIES.

AND WE'VE PURPOSELY DESIGNED THIS WITHOUT, UH, ELECTRONIC GATES.

AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF A GATE WOULD BE A GOOD, YOU KNOW, VISUAL, UH, APPEARANCE THERE ALONG ROLLING, UH, AT THESE ENTRIES TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, RYDER AND GATE RUNNING ACROSS THOSE TWO DRIVEWAYS SCHOOL.

HASN'T BEEN OPEN FOR FOUR YEARS.

SO THAT'S LIKE A PARK FOR THEM.

SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NOISE BESIDES THE PEOPLE WHO GO IN THERE AND PLAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET THROUGH THE GATES, BUT, UM, CAN YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE REGARDING BECAUSE WE PACKED SO MANY UNITS AND HOW THE AC WILL BE ALIGNING AND WILL THAT AFFECT THE WHOLE AREA AND ALSO WITH THE INCREASE OF THE BLOCK WALL, WILL THAT REDUCE THE NOISE A LITTLE BIT? WHERE ARE THE ACP IN PLACE? A COUPLE BARRIERS, RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VINYL FENCE.

THAT'S GOING TO ENCLOSE THOSE YARDS AROUND THE HOMES AROUND THE PERIMETER.

THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BUFFER OF SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BLOCK WALL.

SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF SOUND BUFFERING THAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN THOSE UNITS.

BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT, THE, IF YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD THE UNITS OF NEW HOMES THAT ARE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT FROM PROBABLY WHAT YOU AND I HAVE ON OUR HOMES OR WHAT THIS RUNNING NEIGHBORS HAVE, EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, YOU

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AND ONE OF THOSE ARE LIKE THE BARREL VARIABLE SPEED PUMPS, KIND OF LIKE, UH, UH, SWIMMING POOLS HAVE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S, IT USED TO BE, YOU EITHER WERE OFF OR RUNNING AT THAT HIGH WHINING SPEED OF THAT MOTOR.

NOW THEY DROPPED DOWN AND RUN IT A MUCH QUIETER, UH, SOUND.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S IN THE BUILDING CODE.

AND SO AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ARE FAR QUIETER THAN THEY WERE EVEN 10 YEARS AGO.

I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO DEPENDING ON WHAT, HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO WILLING TO PAY PAYING FOR.

I'M JUST REALLY, SINCE THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED REGARDING THE PERIMETER OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WHICH IS THE NORTH AND THE WEST SIDE.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THEN THE OTHER ACS WHERE YOU PUT IT AND WHAT TYPE YOU PUT IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

RIGHT? YEAH.

SO IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE, JUST THE NORTHERN PART AND THEN THE WHAT'S THAT WEST SIDE OF THOSE BUILDING, THE ONE CLOSEST TO THE NEIGHBORS.

I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH ALL OF THEM, BUT IT WILL BE QUITE A FEW UNITS.

AND, UM, SOME OF THESE UNITS I UNDERSTAND IS THE NEW MACHINES.

IT'S, IT'S LESS, IT'S MORE QUIET, BUT IT ALSO DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU, NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'M JUST, ALL I'M GUARANTEEING IS YOU WILL HEAR YOUR NEIGHBORS ON YOUR SIDE MORE THAN YOU WILL.

THESE THAT'S ALL I UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

SORRY IF I CAN INTERJECT AGAIN.

UM, I THINK WE HAVE, UH, FIXED THE ISSUE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MIRCERA WOULD LIKE TO ASK HER QUESTIONS.

UH, QUESTION REGARDING, UM, THE INCENTIVE FOR PURCHASING HOMES THERE, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE INCENTIVE, COULD THAT INCENTIVE GO TO, WANTS TO BE IN A RESIDENCE? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU HAD A FIRST CERTAIN, UM, GROUP OF PEOPLE, PUBLIC SERVANTS.

AND I'M SORRY, YOU MAY HAVE MISSED THAT AT THE BEGINNING, BUT SORRY.

I HAD TO WALK OUT OF THE ROOM ON ECHO WAYNE OVER HERE.

UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS SOME INCENTIVE WHERE, UM, WEST COVINA RESIDENTS COULD BENEFIT BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A, UM, LOW SUPPLY AND HIGH DEMAND WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY HARD TO, FOR ANYONE TO PURCHASE A HOME NOWADAYS.

SO THAT BEING SAID, WOULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT WOULD BE RESCUED? YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF THE LIST OR, UM, OR, OR GET A SPECIAL INCENTIVE THE BITE INSTEAD OF WHICH IT'S NOT A DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, IT'S A BUY, BUY INCENTIVE.

UM, AND BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A DELAY, I'M JUST GOING TO THROW IT ANOTHER QUESTION.

WOULD THE COMPLEX BE A BJ APPROVED TO MAKE IT, UM, UM, MORE EASY FOR QUALIFYING? I THINK THAT CONCLUDES CALL.

I MEAN, IN TERMS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO BROADEN THE, UH, WE ASKED HIM AS WE SPOKE OF EARLIER THE, UM, UH, PROGRAM, UH, RELATIVE TO THE 150,000 AS, AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

AND I THINK MAKING THAT, UH, CATEGORY TO INCLUDE, UH, WEST COVINA RESIDENTS WOULD BE, UH, AN IMPORTANT, UH, TO ADD TO THAT.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COMPLETELY OPEN TO, UH, WORKING ON WITH THE CITY.

THIS WAS KIND OF THE BRAINCHILD OF, OF BOTH PARTNERS HERE, UH, IN PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

SO WE'RE COMPLETELY OPEN TO WORKING WITH STAFF TO, TO CRAFT THOSE SO THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN, IN A FORMAT THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE, AND THEN AS FAR AS FHA, OBVIOUSLY THAT'LL BE, UH, DRIVEN, DRIVEN BY THE, THE PRICE POINTS.

BUT CERTAINLY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE BUILDER HERE WILL BE HIGHLY INCENTIVIZED TO WORK CLOSELY, UH, IN, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN QUALIFY.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF CLARITY, UH, WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE, UH, REQUIREMENTS CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, ANSWER, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD HAVE ASKED MR. CROSBY EARLIER REGARDING THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE FOR THE, THE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES.

EASIER TO SEE, AND THEN THE F THE FIRST FLOOR FLOOR PLAN.

SO ON THE PROJECTOR, I HAVE THE FLOOR PLAN, THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN OF THE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES,

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SO AS YOU CAN SEE ONLY YOU ONLY PLAN THREE DOES NOT HAVE THE, IT DOES HAVE A, UM, A SMALLER PRIVATE PORCH, BUT ONLY PLAN THREE DOES NOT HAVE THE, THE DECK SPACE, UM, THAT IS SHOWN ON THE OTHER ON PLANS ONE AND TWO.

SO ALL, ALL OTHER UNITS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PLANT THREE, HAVE HA HAVE DECK AREAS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

AND IF I MAY GO BACK TO AND THE TABLE, NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU, JOANNE, BUT YEAH, THE TABLE OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THAT GRAPHIC IDENTIFIES THE, UH, PORCH VERSUS DECK AREA FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE PLANS AT THE SPECIFIC FLOOR LEVEL.

AND ALSO, AND ALSO IF YOU, UM, EACH, EACH, UM, I GUESS CLUSTER ONLY HAS ONE PLAN THREE UNIT, UM, WITHIN IT.

SO THERE ARE 17 CLUSTERS.

SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE 17 UNITS IN TOTAL THAT DO NOT HAVE THE DECK SPACE.

THANK YOU ALL OTHER UNITS DO, UM, ONE QUARTER QUESTION, UM, WHICH I DID UNDERSTAND, UM, UH, RESIDENTS CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE IN PROVIDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, IN LIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC.

I BELIEVE PEOPLE NOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF OUTDOOR SPACE TO BE ABLE TO WALK.

I DID OBSERVE THAT 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE MORE THAN 500 PEOPLE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S AN AMENITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO NOTICED FOR THE THREE-STORY TOWN HOMES, A WALKABLE AREA THAT YOU HAVE, I GUESS IT'S AT LEAST FOUR FEET THAT'S PAVED AND SO FORTH, BUT GOING BACK OVER TOWARDS THE SINGLE FAMILY, SOME OF THOSE WALKWAYS ARE ONLY THREE FEET.

ARE YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SALES THAT GO DOWN THROUGH THE OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE PROJECT? THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY DRIVEN LARGELY BY THE DESIGN SEPARATION OF THE PRODUCT, BUT THE THAT'S JUST THE PASEO WIDTH OF, OF THE WALKING PATH, BUT THERE'S STILL THE SAME, YOU KNOW, WITH BROADER DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING.

AND IT'S JUST, JUST MORE GREEN SPACE THAN IT IS SIDEWALK.

BUT AGAIN, IF YOU WERE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S WHEELCHAIR, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT YOU STILL WOULDN'T HAVE PROVIDED AT LEAST A FOUR FOOT WALKWAY, EVEN IN THAT PASEO AREA.

WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THIS, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT HAS BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED, UM, IN A NUMBER OF JURISDICTIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT, UH, NOT, UH, AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN RAISED, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE UP THERE WITH THE, WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL, BUT IT IS ADVANTAGEOUS TO, TO NOT PUT IN SPECIES THAT ARE TOO BIG.

COMMISSIONER LEWIS.

UM, SO I, I, I HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND I THINK SOMEHOW WE GOT A LITTLE OFF TRACK ANYWAY, UM, WAS GONNA, WAS GOING TO ASK, UM, GOING BACK TO THE, TO THE, UH, TO THE SCREENING TREES, UM, JUST, JUST WANTED TO ASK WHAT, WHAT WAS, WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL IN TERMS OF, UM, THE MATURITY OF, OF THOSE TREES THAT, THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUT IN? IS IT, IS IT GOING TO BE A SITUATION WHERE THERE, THERE WILL BE PRIVACY IN THE FUTURE AFTER, UH, AFTER THEY WOULD BE PUT IN HYPOTHETICALLY? OR IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD, WE'D BE FACED WITH MATURE TREES GOING IN, UH, PROVIDING SCREENING? IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A QUESTION THAT I THINK EVERY, EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO WANT AN ANSWER ON.

YEAH, NO, IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

AND ONE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT FROM THE BEGINNING, WE ACTUALLY EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT DOING SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT GROW, BUT YEAH, THEY WILL BE, UH, OF A SUFFICIENT SIZE OF THAT.

THEY HAVE IMMEDIATE IMPACT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, UM, HAVE YOU SEEN PODER CARPUS AT NURSERIES AND STUFF? THEY'RE A, OBVIOUSLY ARE IN DIFFERENT SIZE BOXES AS THEY CALL THEM, UH, PLANTING CONTAINERS, BUT, UH, PODER CARPETS CAN ACTUALLY GROW UP TO 30 OR 40 FEET.

UH, IF YOU LET THEM, IF YOU LET THEM GO, BUT THERE IS A FINE LINE BETWEEN, UM, THE SIZE THAT YOU WANT TO WANT TO PURCHASE BEFORE.

IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE BASICALLY, UH, GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO GROWING IN THAT BOX, UH, AND IT KIND OF STIFLES IT WHERE IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME TO GET STARTED AGAIN.

SO, I MEAN, TH THEY WILL BE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAN IF THE CONCERN IS, ARE WE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND PLANT THREE FOOT TRUCK? WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT, UH, PROPOSING THAT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

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AGAIN, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY START TO GET ACCLIMATED TO THEIR PLANT BLOCKS AND THEY ALMOST DON'T GROW FOR TWO, TWO YEARS JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SO USED TO GROWING IN THAT CONTAINER.

SO, BUT THEY WILL BE A SUFFICIENT SIZE THAT THEY HAVE IMMEDIATE IMPACT.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, ONE GALLON PLANTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING, UH, ALONG THE WALL THAT EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO WAIT 10 YEARS FOR.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE PICKED THIS SPECIES.

IT'S A VERY FAST GROWING, UH, PLANT.

I HAVE, I HAVE ONE ON, ON MY PROPERTY.

I LITERALLY HACK IT DOWN ABOUT THREE, THREE FEET OR SO AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR.

AND IT GROWS VERY FAST.

AND THEN W WITH REGARD TO SORT OF THE SAME THING, AND I KNOW WE, I KNOW WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS SORT OF IN A HYPOTHETICAL SENSE, BUT WHAT, WITH REGARD TO THAT, THAT, UH, NORTH, UH, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION ON DOWN TO, TO THE FRONT, WITH REGARD TO SOME SORT OF COVERAGE THERE.

UM, I ASSUME YOU'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING WITH WHATEVER, UH, WHATEVER HYPOTHETICAL CHOICE WOULD WOULD BE MADE ON THAT, ASSUMING THAT THAT WAS AMENABLE, UM, YEAH, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMMEDIATELY GET ESTABLISHED ONTO THE, ONTO THE WALL.

UM, AND THEN, UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE HOA AND, UH, AND, AND I ASSUME YOU GUYS ARE DOING CCNRS AS WELL.

UM, SO, SO WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE, THE TRASH RECEPTACLES, I KNOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, MANY TIMES BY A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS.

UM, THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TRASH RECEPTACLES, AND I, I THINK THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING, UH, HAVING IT IN BOTH THE, THE, THE HOUSE RULES FOR THE HOA, AS WELL AS MAYBE IN THE CCNRS THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR TRASH RECEPTACLES IN, IN FRONT OF YOUR GARAGE KIND OF THING.

WHENEVER, WHENEVER THERE'S A, A TRASH PICKUP.

I, I THINK W W WAS, IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS, UH, THAT IS AGREEABLE IN YOUR PROPOSAL? I BELIEVE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT IN THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS, TO THE EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REQUIRE THAT THEY GO OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NIGHT BEFORE AND BE BROUGHT IN THE DAY OF, UH, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT LEFT OUT.

YOU KNOW, IN THE PUBLIC VIEW, WHAT, WHAT WE CAN'T CONTROL IS JUST THE DISCRETION OF THE, THE REFUSE COMPANIES IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR PICKUP, LOCATION AND TIMING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, WE WILL COORDINATE WITH THEM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, INCORPORATE INTO THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS AND THAT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE STANDARD, RIGHT.

UH, IN A LOT OF PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, A LOT OF PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR TRASH CANS OUT, BUT IN HOA THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS TO PRESERVE PROPERTY VALUES AND MAKE SURE SOME OF THOSE LITTLE THINGS THAT BECOME AN EYESORE PAIN FOR A LOT OF US ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE ACTUAL STORAGE OF THE, OF THE HERE, HERE, WE HAVE TWO, TWO TRASH BINS WITH THE GREEN AND THE, AND THE, AND THE BLACK BIN HERE.

UM, SO QUICK QUESTION.

UM, ARE, ARE YOU CREATING A DESIGNATED STORAGE AREA IN THE GARAGE FOR THEM? OKAY.

SO, SO THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF SPECIFIC STORAGE CLOSET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE CALLED OUT IN THE GARAGE, UH, PLAN THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LISTENING OR WATCHING THAT THAT IS PART OF ART OF YOUR PROPOSAL AND THAT'S, UM, AND TO YOUR, TO YOUR EARLIER POINT, THAT'S ALSO ENFORCEABLE, YOU KNOW, BY THE, BY THE ASSOCIATION, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T PUT THEM AWAY OR TRY TO STORE THEM OUT FRONT OF THEIR GARAGE OR ON THE SIDE, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AN, A, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO FINE BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

UM, W AND THEN, AND THEN WITH REGARD TO PARKING, I KNOW, UM, I, I, I KNOW CHAIR HANGER, UH, HAD, UH, HAD, HAD A LONG DISCUSSION WITH YOU ABOUT, ABOUT PARKING CONSIDERATIONS.

UM, IS, IS, IS THERE A , HAVE YOU GUYS EVER HAD ISSUES THAT, UH, OR EVER HAD A JURISDICTION, UH, IMPOSE A REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S COVENANTS OR THAT, THAT ARE GRANTED TO, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITH REGARD TO PARKING RESTRICTIONS AND ENFORCING A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION? HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES? SO, SO ARE YOU REFERRING TO IF, IF THE RESIDENTS FROM THIS COMMUNITY PARKED IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD? YEAH, I HAVE NOT.

UH, I'VE SEEN, I'VE NOT SEEN THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME PROJECTS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, A CITY HAS, UM, NO PARKING PERIOD, UH, ON, ON CERTAIN STREETS ADJACENT TO COMMUNITIES, UM, PROBABLY IN AN EFFORT TO PREVENT SOME

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OF THAT, UH, OVERFLOW.

UM, SO, SO THAT'S SOMETHING, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MAKE THE DISTINCTION, UH, ASIDE FROM PERMITS, LIKE THEY DO, LIKE IN PASADENA AND OTHER AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE, UH, PERMITS FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE DISTINCTION FOR WHOEVER'S ENFORCING PARKING.

I MEAN, W W WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN WEST COVINA THAT, THAT ALLOWS NEIGHBORS TO GET TOGETHER AND CREATE A SORT OF PRIVATE, PRIVATE PARKING ZONES, BASICALLY.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE NEIGHBORS DON'T HAVE SUCH A CONCERN ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT, UH, WHAT LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, CERTAIN, CERTAIN BUSINESSES, OR CERTAIN GOVERNMENT ENTITIES HAVING, UH, HAVING OVERFLOW INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY CAN CREATE, UM, PARKING RESTRICTIONS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT, UH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, HOLLY PLACE.

UM, AND, AND CAMERON IS, IS A PLACE WHERE THEY'VE DONE IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

AND, UH, I ASSUME IT'S MAKING LOTS OF MONEY FOR THE CITY WHENEVER DMV REOPENS.

I, I I'VE SEEN IT IN CLAREMONT AND UPLAND AND A LOT OF OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, SO I'M SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ACHIEVABLE.

OH, UM, WITH REGARD TO, UM, WITH, WITH REGARD TO UTILITIES, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE DOING UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND, AND EVERYTHING.

A QUESTION I HAD IS, UM, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ACCOMMODATE FOR, UH, FIBER OPTIC INSTALLATION AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES? OBVIOUSLY, WEST COVINA HAS ON TIER AND SPECTRUM.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE, HAVE ANY PLANS IN TERMS OF HOW YOU, HOW YOU WOULD DEAL WITH THAT.

YEAH, WE ARE.

WE ARE, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE ARE DOING THE UNDERGROUNDING.

WE ARE DOING THE RULE 20 THERE, UH, ACROSS THE FURNISH TO, TO UNDERGROUND THE POLES, UH, THAT ARE THERE.

AND THEN WORKING WITH OUR UTILITY CONSULTANT.

I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY UP TO SPEED ON WHICH PROVIDER TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT THEY HAVE IN TERMS OF, UH, WHETHER FIBER IS AVAILABLE, UH, HERE AT THIS LOCATION, UH, SPECIFICALLY, I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TERRIBLE THAT A LOT OF OLDER PLEXES DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.

IF WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING NEW IN THIS CITY, IT OUGHT TO HAVE EVERYTHING.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THAT RADIANT HEAT ISN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE ROOF ANYMORE, LIKE IT, LIKE IT USED TO WITH THE RADIANT BARRIERS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

IF YOU, IF IT'S, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S CERTAINLY, UH, GENERALLY INCORPORATED IN THE STUFF THAT, UH, SOME OF THE NEW BUILDERS ARE DOING.

WE'RE JUST BLOW YOUR MINDS WITH TERMS OF CONNECTIVITY, UH, FOR THESE HOMES.

THEY HAVE THESE MOTHERBOARDS THAT ARE INCORPORATED.

I MEAN, YOU CAN PLUG ANYTHING INTO, ANYWHERE IN THAT ROOM, CAT SIX CABLE, EVERYTHING IN YOUR YOU'RE FULL SPEED, NONE OF THESE ISSUES WE'RE RUNNING INTO HERE TONIGHT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S NO OFFENSE, IT'S, IT'S PHENOMENAL.

AND, AND THIS, THIS PROJECT WILL BE NO EXCEPTION.

I JUST MEANT WHETHER IT WAS AVAILABLE IN THE CITY.

SOME OF THEM, SOME OF THEM, UH, THEY HAVEN'T EXTENDED TO CERTAIN AREAS.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE, UH, IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.

I, I, I'M A VICTIM OF THAT MYSELF, BUT, UH, THEY STOPPED AT LITERALLY THE COMMUNITY NEXT TO ME.

AND, UH, WE NEVER GOT FIBER, UH, WHERE I LIVE.

SO YEAH, TO THE EXTENT THAT'S AVAILABLE, DO YOU, I MEAN, JUST, JUST CURIOUS, HAVE YOU GUYS, UM, HAVE YOU GUYS EVER PAID FOR SORT OF LAST MILE BUILD OUT OR THAT KIND OF THING? UM, YOU DON'T WANT BIG MASTER PLANS.

WE'VE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES WHEN WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE BIGGER SCOPE PROJECTS, UH, WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HUGE CLUBHOUSES AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CENTRAL, UH, AMENITIES AND PARKS AND SCHOOLS AND THINGS INCORPORATED WHERE, UH, IT HAS, IT HAS MADE SENSE.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE A UTILITY CONSULTANT.

THAT'S WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THIS, WITH US ON THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO I WILL INVESTIGATE THAT AND, AND CONFIRM, YOU KNOW, THE CLOSEST PROXIMITY.

UM, JUST, JUST SO I, UH, ADDRESS THIS, I, I, I READ A COUPLE AND HEARD A COUPLE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

AND, UH, I, I, I KNOW COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS SAID, HAD TO ASKED ABOUT THAT, UM, AS WELL.

UH, BUT I, I DID WANT TO ASK HER, ARE THERE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, REFLECTIVE MATERIALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR COOL, YOU KNOW, COOL ROOF MATERIALS OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT BEING USED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR YEAH.

THAT IS FAIRLY TYPICAL NOWADAYS.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE BUILDING CODE, UH, THAT UPGRADES, I MEAN, THERE WERE A SIGNIFICANT COST, SIGNIFICANT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LAST, UH, BUILDING CODE UPGRADE.

AND A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING, UH, INCORPORATED.

SO YEAH, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE BOTH TO THE EXTERNAL, UH, AND THE INTERNAL,

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SO YEAH, THOSE, THOSE WILL CERTAINLY BE, UH, INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT.

IS THAT ONLY TAKEN TO CONSIDERATION ON THE ROOF ONLY, OR ALSO THE WALLS AS WELL? WELL, IT'S, IT'S BASED ON THE IT'S BASED LARGELY ON THE BUILDING CODE.

THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT'S DONE TO MEET THE INSTALLATION WAS ALSO UPGRADED WITH THE MOST CURRENT BUILDING CODES.

SO THAT'S CERTAINLY, UH, PREVENTING A LOT OF THE HEAT TRANSFER, UH, THROUGH THE WALLS, INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE.

SO, UH, THE INSTALLATION UPGRADE WILL ALSO BE, UH, INCORPORATED.

WHAT'S THE, THE THING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THE PARKING YOU WERE WORKING WITH YOUR ENGINEER, ABOUT WHAT THE FRONT PARKING, WHERE YOU, WERE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IT? NO, I'M SORRY WITH THAT, WITH THAT FRONT PARKING LOT.

SO, SO WHAT WE WOULD BE, UH, LOOKING AT IS BASICALLY PULLING THAT, UH, UH, SIX PLEX FORWARD, SO THAT IT'S BASICALLY ON THE STREET AND HAS THE SAME, UH, THE SAME VISIBILITY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ACROSS THE ENTIRE FRONT OR SO INSTEAD OF YOU HAVING THAT LITTLE CUTOUT FOR THE PARKING, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE THE PARKING, UH, PROBABLY UP TO THE TOP OF THAT ENTIRE STRING.

SO UP CLOSE TO WHERE THE PARK IS.

AND OKAY.

AND YOU, AND THAT IS POSSIBLE.

YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I WAS, I WAS ON OUR, ON A CALL WITH OUR ENGINEER LITERALLY UP UNTIL THE POINT WHERE I GOT HERE TODAY, BUT HE WAS PRETTY CONFIDENT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

PRETTY GREAT.

THAT'S THAT'S UH, THAT'S UH, YEAH, THAT'S REALLY HUGE.

ESPECIALLY FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING THAT, UM, THE LEWIS COMPANY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT PARKING THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT TO EVEN TO FURTHER, FURTHER BACK IN THE WHOLE COMPLEX, WHICH YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE.

THAT'S GREAT.

I MEAN, THAT WAS THE REASON WE KEPT DIGGING INTO THAT.

HONESTLY, IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT EVEN CAUGHT MY EYE WHEN, UH, WE WENT THROUGH IT.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED WITH THE PARK AND SOME OTHER THINGS EARLIER ON, BUT WE'RE JUST CONCERNED WITH WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN OUT THERE WITH HAVING THE PARK TOO CLOSE TO THE STREET.

UM, BUT YEAH, UNTIL, UNTIL IT CAME UP WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT HONESTLY WASN'T SOMETHING WE HAD REALLY SCRUTINIZED, SO I'M GLAD THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACCOMMODATE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

UM, THERE, WE APPROVED STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 21 DASH SIX ZERO SIX EIGHT, COMMA TWO ONE DASH SIX ZERO SIX NINE, COMMA TWO ONE DASH SIX ZERO SEVEN ZERO COMMA TWO ZERO TWO ONE DASH SIX ZERO SEVEN OH ONE, COMMA TWO ONE DASH SIX ZERO SEVEN TWO, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE PRECISE PLAN NUMBER, NO NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ZERO ONE.

AND THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ONE FOUR.

THE TENTATIVE TRACK MAP NUMBER EIGHT THREE ONE THREE FOUR OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TWO ZERO DASH ZERO ONE AND ZONE CHANGE NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ZERO TWO.

AND TO CERTIFY THEM MIGRATED NEGATIVE DECORATION AND AMENDING WITH THE DEVELOPER'S COMMITMENT TO MOVE THAT ONE BUILDING UPFRONT TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY LINE OR TO, TO THE ADJACENT BUILDING AND MOVE THE PARKING TOWARDS THE BACK OF, OF THE WHOLE COMPLEX.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION.

UM, IF WE HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

AND I, BEFORE WE HAVE A SECOND, UM, I LIKE TO ONE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN AFTER THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION.

SO DO I HAVE A SECOND HERE, IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN, UM, OPEN COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS.

PLAN BROUGHT BACK THAT SHOWS THAT YES, IT'LL STILL BE WITHIN THE POD OF THE, OF THE LOSS THAT WE'VE CREATED ON THE TENTATIVE MAP.

I HAVE A, JUST SORT OF A PRACTICAL QUESTION, UM, IF THAT IS GOING TO BE MOVED.

AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE MOVED, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO A TRACK DESIGNATION? THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, UM, IF, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE MOVING TO APPROVE THIS AND, AND, AND THE, UH, CAUSE, CAUSE THESE ARE ALL BEING SUBDIVIDED IS MY UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT? SO, WELL, TH THEY'RE THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL TRACKS FOR EACH OF THE YEAH.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS SINCE, SINCE THAT, THAT FRONT UNIT WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED BACK, ARE WE ABLE TO W WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING A SPECIFIC

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AND IF NOT, IT'LL BE A VERY MINOR MODIFICATION, BUT YEAH.

IT'LL STILL FIT WITHIN, YOU CAN SEE THE MODULES, UH, IT'LL STILL FIT WITHIN THE MODULE OF THE 10, BUT YEAH.

THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE QUESTION I HAD JUST SO THAT I HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY I, I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT, UM, EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND OF COURSE THAT'S STILL GOING THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE ARE PLAN CHECKS AND THINGS THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THAT TOO.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOME REFINEMENTS THAT HAPPEN THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WITH OUR, WITH THE PLANS.

GOT IT.

THERE, THERE'S QUITE A FEW ITEMS ON THIS ONE, SO YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE PARKING TO ADJUST IT.

AND THEN, UM, WE CAN, WHEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION, WE CAN ALSO VOTE ON THAT ON EACH LINE ITEMS TO SEE WHICH ONE WE ARE.

UM, WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS, WHICH MOTIONS ARE WE GOING TO APPROVE? LIKE YOU CAN MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO THE GARAGE, PARKING, MOVING BACK, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO IF, UM, IF THEY MAY, UM, SO WAIT, HOLD ON.

SO I'LL BE, UH, UM, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE IT.

AND DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER? IS IF NOT, WE JUST MAKE ANOTHER MOTIONS AND, UM, OPEN, UM, COMMISSION DISCUSSION.

HOLD ON.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A BATHROOM BREAK FOR AN HOUR NOW.

SO WE'LL TAKE FIVE MINUTES BATHROOM BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH, UM, COMMISSIONED DISCUSSIONS.

I MEAN, IT'S THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT FOR THAT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE BREAKS EVERYONE.

SO WE ARE, UM, JUST BEFORE THE BREAK, WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, THE DISCUSSIONS AND CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, WE HAVE A MOTION BY BRIAN QTS AND, UM, BRIAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN? UH, YES.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FOR SARAH, BUT, UM, LET'S SEE.

I COULD FIND MY PAPER.

UM, SO I WON'T, UH, SO JUST TO CLARIFY MY MOTION AND, AND, AND IF COMMISSIONER VISCERA AGREES WITH THE SECOND, BUT, UM, SO WHAT I INDICATED AND, AND STAFF, KURT, UH, REREAD IT AND PUT ALL THE, AND PUT ALL THE INFORMATION IT NEEDS TO BE SET ON, ON, UH, ON PUBLIC RECORD.

BUT, UM, UNDER THE GENERAL, MY MOTION IS, UM, I MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOP RESOLUTIONS NUMBER 21 DASH SIX ZERO SIX EIGHT, COMMA TWO ONE DASH SIX ZERO SIX NINE, COMMA TWO ONE DASH SIX ZERO SEVEN ZERO COMMA TWO ONE DASH SIX ZERO SEVEN ONE COMMA TWO ONE DASH SIX ZERO SEVEN TWO COMMA RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY CONSOLE DOT PRECISE PLAN NUMBER THREE, ZERO DASH ZERO ONE, COMMA TREE REMOVAL PERMIT NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ONE FOUR, TENTATIVE TRACK MAP NUMBER EIGHT, THREE ONE THREE FOUR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ZERO ONE.

AND ZONE CHANGE NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ZERO TWO, AND CERTIFYING THE MIGRATED NEGATIVE DECORATION AMENDING, UH, WITH WHAT AMENDMENTS AND STAFF CLARIFY THE AMENDMENTS, UH, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES MOVING THE PARKING LOT TO THE BACK OF THE COMPLEX AND MOVING THAT, MOVING THE, THE RIGHT SIDE UNIT MORE TO MATCH THE ADJACENT BUILDING.

AND, UM, THAT'S MY MOTION.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTIONS TO, UM, REGARDING THIS PLAN OR WE GO THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE AN OPENNESS, UH, COMMISSION DISCUSSION FIRST? SO I, I I'D LIKE TO JUST DISCUSS SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE, AND IF, IF, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GOING THAT ROUTE, UM, AT, AT THE VERY LEAST, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, THAT SOME OF THE, THE MATTERS THAT WE DISCUSSED BE INCORPORATED WITH THAT AS WELL WITH THAT MOTION AS WELL.

AND, UM, BEFORE WE WENT ON A BREAK, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, BRIAN QTS MAKE THE MOTIONS AND WE ALSO HAVE A SECOND BY ZOOM, UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, LIVIA PARSER.

AND WE ALSO, UM, I ALSO LIKE TO ASK TO SEE IF ALL OTHER PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE MO ANOTHER MOTIONS TO MAKE, UM, BRIAN MAKE ALL THE MOTIONS.

THIS IS A RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO TO.

IT'S NOT ANY APPROVAL OF ANYTHING.

IT'S A RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND, UM,

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UM, IF, IF, IF THAT'S AMENABLE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH REGARD TO THE, TO THE SCREENING, UM, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT THAT WERE DISCUSSED, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE NORTH AND THE, AND, AND THE EASTERN, UM, PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WITH REGARD TO JUST ENSURING THAT THE, UM, PLANTS AND TREES THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE PUT IN, OR HAVE, OR ARE AT SUFFICIENT MATURITY TO PROVIDE ENOUGH, UH, UH, ENOUGH SCREENING AND BLOCKAGE TO, UH, TO, TO ACCOMMODATE IMMEDIATE, UM, I GUESS, IMMEDIATE SCREENING FOR, OR THE NEIGHBORS THERE, UM, W WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE CCNRS AND THE, AND THE HOA RULES, UH, REQUIRE THAT THE, UH, THAT THE, UH, THE, UH, THE TRASH CANS BE PLACED IN THE RECEPTACLES WITHIN 20, WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER BEING PUT OUT.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO SOME, SOME FORM OF FINE IF THAT DOES NOT OCCUR.

UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, W WITH REGARD TO THE HOUSING ALLOWANCE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE, WE ADD IN, UM, MAYBE A PREFERENCE OR, OR WEST COVINA RENTERS WHO ARE LOOKING TO BECOME OPERATING OWNERS IN THIS CITY.

UM, IF THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, UM, THE, THE REAR WINDOWS THAT, THAT WERE DISCUSSED FOR THOSE, UH, FOR THOSE TWO UNITS THAT I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE THE SECOND AND THE THIRD UNIT, UM, FROM THE MOST NORTH WESTERN OWNERS, THAT THOSE BE, UH, CLEAR STORY WINDOWS, UM, THAT, THAT ARE IN THE BACK THAT, THAT FACED THE PROPERTIES.

UM, I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, THAT BEST EFFORTS ARE MADE TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, FIBER OPTIC OPTIONS ARE PROVIDED TO THE, UH, THE RESIDENTS THERE.

UM, AND, UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IF, UH, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE THAT, UH, IN THE PARKING AREA, THERE IS NO, THERE, THERE IS A TWO 20 HOOKUPS POTENTIALLY, OR, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS THAT CAN BE ADDED AT A LATER DATE.

WHAT THE, UM, WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE FLAVOR OF THE WEEK IS WHETHER IT'S TESLA OR, OR, OR WHOEVER IT IS.

UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NO UNIFORM STANDARD.

AND, AND OBVIOUSLY I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, THAT OPTION THERE FOR RESIDENTS OR GUESTS OR WHOMEVER.

UM, AND, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO DO.

DO YOU THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE? YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M, I AM, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE, I, I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH THE ED HOOKUPS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH MORE ON THE RETAIL SIDE OF THINGS.

UM, NOT, NOT ANYTHING SPECIFIC, JUST SO THAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE PUTTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL ALLOW THAT TO BE ADDED BY THE HOA AT A LATER DATE.

I HAVE.

SO BASICALLY, SO IT HAS THE FACILITIES WIRE TO THAT LOCATION, SO THEY COULD BE, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING IN WHATEVER CHARGING STATION THAT, THAT THE, UH, THE HOA AGREES UPON.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S, I BELIEVE ALSO IN LA COUNTY HAD ALREADY MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT, I THINK, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S, UH, WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON HAD THAT IN OUR CODE, BUT LA COUNTY AND OUR CITY HAD ALREADY

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REQUESTED THAT ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT, THEY NEED TO HAVE A, UM, CHARGING STATIONS.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S INSTALLED OR JUST READY TO BE INSTALLED IN TERMS OF THE METER SIZE AND THE ELECTRICALS AND ALL THAT.

AND LIKE YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, WE GOT ENTITLED 24 WHEN THE TIME COMES TO DEVELOPMENT, THEY MAY BE QUITE A SOLAR PANEL UP THERE, WHICH IS NOT DESIGNED OR DRAWN AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S, UM, I ALSO LIKE TO, UM, WE HAD REGARDING THE AC, UM, JUST AROUND THE PERIMETER AND THE NORTH AND THE WEST SIDE TO SEE IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO HAVING A QUIETER MACHINE, YOU CAN SAY WITH, WITH REFERENCE TO THE OTHERS, UH, IT SHOULD BE FINE.

UM, REGARDING THE SETBACK ON ROLLING AREA TO SEE, WE ARE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PARKING LOT AND ARRANGEMENTS OF THE BUILDING TO SEE IF WE CAN LINE THAT UP WITH THE CURRENT, UH, CURRENT HOUSE AND, UH, ROLL IN AREA ON THAT PARTICULAR, THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT STREET.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO, UM, SEE THAT IN THERE.

I'M NOT SURE YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU D YOU MAY NOT WANT TO SEE GATES.

SO I, BECAUSE THE PROXIMITY IS SO CLOSE TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA, I THINK I DON'T, IF YOU CAN INCORPORATE THIS TO SEE IF THERE'S A GATED, A LITTLE GATED COMMUNITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GO IN AND OUT ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVES THERE CAN GO IN AND OUT AND ALSO TO USE THE PARK AS WELL.

SO MAINTAIN THAT AREA.

UM, THE CLAIRE STORY, UM, WHAT COMMISSIONER LEWIS HAD ADDED THERE, ONE MORE SPACE TO THE NORTH.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH, WHICH PROPERTY IT IS, BUT TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, THERE ARE SOME THAT'S OVERLOOKING INTO THEIR YARD.

ONE OF THE, YEAH, NO, I, I KNOW EXACTLY THE, THE TWO PLANS, UH, MR. LEWIS IS REFERRING TO.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MEN, MY MOTION TO INCORPORATE COMMISSIONER LEWIS, HIS RECOMMENDATIONS ON TOP OF MY, ON TOP OF THE, I THINK THE ONLY ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION I MADE WAS THE PARKING.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO INCORPORATE COMMISSIONER LEWIS, HIS RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AND, AND I THINK, UH, UH, MR. LEWIS, COMPANY'S COMMITMENT TO, UH, COMMIT TO THAT.

AND SO I'LL, I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO INCORPORATE COMMISSIONER LEWIS IS ALSO INCORPORATE COMMISSIONER LOUIS'S, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND IF, UH, COMMISSIONER PROCERA STOP US A SECOND.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR EMOTION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? NO.

ALRIGHTY.

WE HAVE A MOTION RIGHT NOW WITH THE ADDITIONS ON IT, AND I ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTIONS TO ADD GUTIERREZ COMMISSIONER LEWIS.

AND ALSO WITH, I HAD MENTIONED REGARDING THE AC NOISE, JUST OUTSIDE PERIMETER AND ALSO TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION REGARDING THE SETBACK ON THAT ONE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? CAUSE WE HAVE A SECOND FOR LOUIS AND TWO, I HAVE A SECOND FOR THE MOTIONS.

I JUST ADDED COMBINED LEWIS.

EDISON THERE'S 20 TOTAL OR NO, I THINK IT'S ONLY 15 MILES FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE, TO THE YELLOW THERE.

QUICK, QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN REGARDING THE SETBACK? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, TO SEE IF THAT PARTICULAR, UM, CAN YOU BRING THE SETBACK PLAN UP AGAIN? WE CANNOT REALLY SEE IT.

SO THAT PARTICULAR PLAN, DO YOU SEE HOW THE PARKING LOT WILL MOVING IT TO THE, TO THE FURTHER NORTH? SO THAT WHOLE ALIGNMENT, THE SETBACK TO YOU SEE HOW THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WEST, THE WEST EXISTING RESIDENT RIGHT NOW, THE SEC SETBACK IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN, SO I LIKE TO SEE IF THAT COMMUNITY KIND OF BLEND IN WITH THAT, THE WHOLE BLOCK ACCESSIBILITY FOR FIRETRUCKS AND STUFF THAT THEY CALCULATED THERE'S RIGHT NOW THERE'S A 15 FOOT SETBACK TO THAT SMALLER PRODUCT, RIGHT.

IT'S SMALLER THAN THE EXISTING PRODUCT TO THE WEST.

SO, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY PUSHED AND PULLED.

WE'VE BEEN MORE SENSITIVE TO MAINTAINING, LIKE I SAID, THAT THE PERIMETER PRIVACY CONCERNS, RATHER THAN, UH, THE FRONT SETBACKS ON A STREET, LIKE ROLLING THERE, BUT, UH, WELL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK THAT I THINK IT MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE.

I DON'T KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE SETBACK OF THE ADJACENT UNIT THERE.

UM, OKAY.

WAIT, STAFF, DO, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE SETBACK IS? DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT SET BACK IS REQUIRED? STEP BACK FOR THE R ONE IS 25 FEET BY FEET.

AND I MEAN, CURRENTLY IT'S CURRENTLY A 15 LET'S SET BACK AS PROPOSED 15 FEET, PLUS THE FOUR FEET FOR

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RIGHT? YEAH.

SO I I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT WILL BE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE VERTICAL STACK THERE OF THE UNITS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE PROHIBITIVELY CHALLENGING TO, UM, FIND, FIND ADDITIONAL, UH, FEET THERE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THE, OR THE, UM, HAMMERHEADS FOR THE FIRETRUCKS AND THE WIDTH OF THOSE ROADS.

THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOT ANY WHERE TO TAKE ANY MORE SPACE OUT ON THIS SITE, UH, WITH, WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

AND WE'VE TRIED TO, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE ORIENTATION OF THOSE UNITS AND INCLUDING YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE DIFFERENT, UH, EVEN WITH THE TOWNHOME HUMAN UNITS TO THE FAR EAST THEY'VE BEEN ORIENTED AND TREATED SO THAT THEY HAVE THE VISUAL APPEARANCE OF HAVING A MORE, UH, UH, ORIENTATION TOWARDS THE STREET, LIKE A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOME.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THAT FRONT EDGE.

AND WE WILL DO THE SAME, UH, TREATMENT WITH THE, UM, MODIFICATION THAT WE'RE DOING THERE IN THE PARKING AREA, UH, TO BE CONSISTENT.

UM, BUT YEAH, IT'LL JUST BE THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF PUSH AND PULL THERE ON THAT, UH, WEST SIDE, UH, TO, TO INCORPORATE ANY ADDITIONAL SETBACK ON, ON ROLLING FOR THOSE, UH, FOR THOSE THREE UNITS.

THE OTHER, THE OTHER ITEMS ARE WORKABLE.

I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SAY I WOULD PREFER FOR, TO HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S GIVEN THE CONFINES OF THIS AND QUITE FRANKLY, UM, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING ANYWAY.

UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I AM HOPEFUL THAT IS, IS ADDRESSED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

UM, BECAUSE I, I, I DO THINK THAT THAT IS THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD LOOK PREFERABLE IN MY OPINION.

UH, BUT I THINK AS A, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IT'S WITH, WITH THE CONFINES OF THE CURRENT PROJECT, UM, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU'RE ELIMINATING UNITS AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE TELLING ME, HEY, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ELIMINATE THOSE BACK TWO UNITS.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I DOUBT THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

OH.

UM, BUT I WOULD, UH, I, I WOULD CERTAINLY, UH, UH, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE ON BOARD WITH THAT IF YOU, IF YOU DID, IN ANY CASE.

UM, I THINK THAT JUST AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, I THINK IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT WITH THE CURRENT PROJECT.

SO, UM, MOTION, DO WE STILL HAVE A SECOND ON MY MOTION? YOU'RE HANGING, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONNECT WITH A COMMISSIONER, SARAH, BUT NO LUCK.

OH, SORRY.

OH, RENEE.

I HAVE HER HERE ON MY PHONE.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER SARAH, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY GUTIERREZ.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, SAY ONE PRIOR BECAUSE TIME, YES.

THE, THE ONE HE MADE PRIOR WITH THE, UH, THE AMENDMENTS, UM, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS BY STAFF FOR THE HOME, UH, ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UM, MOVING THE SIX PLEX, UH, CLOSER TO ROLLING AND MOVING THE PARKING LOT TOWARDS THE BACK.

UM, UH, THE AMENDMENT TO THE HOUSING PROGRAM, UH, THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS ON THE NORTH AND EASTERN, UH, PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, PLANTS AND TREES THAT ARE SUFFICIENT MATURITY TO PROVIDE SCREENING WHEN, UM, UH, PLANTED CCNRS REQUIRED TRASH BINS WITH 20, UH, TO BE REMOVED WITHIN 24 HOURS.

UM, IF NOT, UH, TAKE IT BEING TAKEN OUT, IF NOT, UH, UH, FINE.

UM, THE HOUSING PROGRAM TO INCLUDE A, PRESENT A PREFERENCE FOR WEST COVINA RENTERS.

UM, OH, THERE'S TWO UNITS THAT WE WANT SPECIFIC WINDOWS AT A CERTAIN HEIGHT FOR PRIVACY.

UM, AND THEN TO INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT NECESSARILY THE STATION FOR EVIE, UH, CHARGING STATIONS.

MINUTES, THAT WHOLE ISSUE THERE, THEN YES, THE SECOND.

I DO AGREE WITH THAT WITH THE, WITH RESPECT TO THE GREATEST PROBLEM, AS LONG AS MOVING THE PARKING LOT TO THE BACK.

UM, CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT AREA RIGHT THERE.

SO, UM, AS LONG AS IT WOULDN'T AFFECT, UH, 15

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AND JUST FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION, THE DEVELOPER DID MENTION THAT HE DID SPEAK WITH HIS ENGINEER AND THEY'RE CONFIDENT THEY CAN DO THAT AND STILL ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

AND, UM, PAULINA AT COMMISSIONER, UH, WILLIAMS COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ.

UH, MADAM CHAIR, HANG SHE'S.

I HAVEN'T VOTED YET BECAUSE THE, UH, THE ITEMS, THE ITEM LINE THAT I HAD ASKED THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT HAS NOT BEEN, UM, TAKEN TO CONSIDERATION.

SO I LOVE THE PROJECTS, BUT THERE ARE STILL A FEW ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO IRON OUT.

SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE A NO.

SO CAN YOU, SO THIS IS THE MOTION PASS.

YEAH, IT WAS ON, SORRY.

THE MOTION PASSES THREE, TWO, AND FOR THE MOTION PASSED COMMISSIONER, SARAH.

FINAL ACTION.

IN THIS MATTER WILL BE TAKEN AT A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON DATE TO BE DETERMINED, WHICH DO WE KNOW THE DATE YET? NO, WE, WE DON'T KNOW, RIGHT.

PAULINA? NO.

AT THIS TIME, NO, FOR THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE'LL BE READY TO PLACE ON THE AGENDA.

UM, PAULINA COMMUNITY DEVELOP, UH, DIRECTOR'S REPORT ALINA.

UM, ARE WE MOVING ON TO NON HEARING? OKAY.

ADAMS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NON-HEARING ITEM TONIGHT, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, BUT ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKES TO MAKE A REPORT OR COMMENT ANYONE, IF NOT,

[3. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT:]

NOW I'M GETTING, UH, CAN YOU HEAR MS. PACIRA ON THE PHONE? UM, IT WILL BE A MEETING, A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 13TH WITH A PUBLIC HEARING FOR TENTATIVE TRACK MAP SEVEN FOUR NINE, SEVEN, SIX WITH A SUBDIVISION INTO TWO LOTS ON FRANCISQUITO.

UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 21 DASH 20 OR D 21 DASH ZERO TWO FOR A TUTORING CENTER ON AZIZA AVENUE AND A CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO EIGHT AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE, TO THE DOWNTOWN PLAN.

THERE ARE NO ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR THE APRIL 27TH, 2001, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 21.

WE HAVE NO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 27TH, 2021.