Mar 09, 2021 Planning Commission

UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, WILLIAMS RESIDENT AND MISSION ARE GUTIERREZ AND MISSIONARY.

LOUIS ROSEN HAVE VICE CHAIR FOR SARAH AND CHAIR.

HANG HERE.

HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 20TH LAST MEETING 2021? WHAT CHANGES? WHAT CHANGES? OKAY.

UM, DOES ANYONE

[1. Regular meeting, February 23, 2021]

HEARING NONE.

THE MEETINGS OF FEBRUARY 23RD, 2021, ALL APPROVE AS SUBMITTED LATE.

LAST MEETING WAS ROLL CALL PLEASE.

OR DO WE NEED TO, NO, WE DON'T NEED TO WORK ON, SO WE JUST APPROVED THAT.

UM, OKAY.

IT'S ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.

DO I HAVE CARDS FOR ANY ORAL COMMUNICATIONS? ANYONE WANTS TO COME UP FOR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS SEEING NONE.

DO WE HAVE THE ZOOM MEETING FOR ORAL COMMUNICATION AS WELL? NO.

LET ME CHECK IT OFF.

IT'S ALL FOR IT'S ALL FOR THE ARTICLE FOR THE ITEMS. OKAY.

AS WE'RE MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING MEETINGS AND LET ME SEE OR POSITION WHEN NUMBER 20 DASH OH ONE TENDER WITH TRACK MAT EIGHT, A TENTATIVE TRACK MAPPED EIGHT THREE ONE THREE FOUR 20 DASH OH ONE.

[2. PRECISE PLAN NO. 20-01]

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GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 DASH OH ONE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT NUMBER 20 DASH ONE FOUR MITIGATION, NEGATIVE DECORATIONS ON ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

AND THE APPLICANT IS GLEN COS CROSBY.

PAUL LOUIS HOME LOCATION IS 1651 EAST ROLAND AVENUE.

AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL, A PRECISE PLAN AND TENTATIVE TRACK MAP TO DEMOLISH ALL EXISTING SCHOOL BUILDINGS USE ON THE SITE AND CONSTRUCT 158 RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM UNITS, 66, TWO STORIES.

SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STYLE.

DO YOU TOUCH UNITS RANGING FROM 1471 SQUARE FOOT TO 1798 SQUARE FOOT IN 92, ATTACH THREE STORY TOWN HOME STYLE UNITS RANGING FROM 13, 10 SQUARE FOOT TO 1721 SQUARE FOOT INTERNAL DRIVE ISLES, COMMON OPEN SPACE, JUST PARKING SPACE AND OTHER ASSOCIATED INCIDENTAL IMPROVEMENT.

ON A 9.14 ACRE SITE.

A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT PERMIT IS REQUIRES TO REMOVE NINE SIGNIFICANT TREES ON THE SITE.

FIVE OAK TREES, TWO MAPLE TREES AND TWO BOTTLEBRUSH TREES.

THE PROJECT ALSO INVOLVES A REQUEST FOR A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS TO CHANGE THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESTINATIONS FROM CIVIC SCHOOLS TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIUM AND A ZONE CHANGE TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR ONE TO A PACIFIC PLAN.

AND WE'RE KNEE WE'LL BE OPENING.

OH, WILL BE ON THE PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING ON A ROLL CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND START OFF THE PRESENTATION BY GOALING GOING OVER EACH OF THE, UH, THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

EXCUSE ME, JOANNE, CAN YOU BE A LITTLE BIT LOUDER? WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND START OFF THE PRESENTATION BY GOING OVER EACH OF THE TUTTELMANS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED TONIGHT, BE PRECISE.

A PRECISE PLAN APPLICATION IS, IS REQUIRED TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

THE TENTATIVE TRACK MAP IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONDOMINIUM SUBDIVISION OF AIRSPACE RIGHTS.

THE ZONE CHANGE IS REQUIRED TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM THE CURRENT SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ZONING DESIGNATION TO A SPECIFIC PLAN.

SO THE SPECIFIC PLAN IN ITSELF, WHICH IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED BOTH ONLINE AND GIVEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, IS GOING TO BE SERVING AS IF APPROVED IS GOING TO BE SERVING AS THE ZONING, UM, OR, OR TOOL THAT IS GOING TO BE USED, OR THE SITES, THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT IS REQUIRED TO CHANGE THE LINE.

USE DESIGNATION FROM CIVIC SCHOOLS TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIUM, TO ALLOW UP TO 20 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER ACRE.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE JOURNAL A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ANY DEVELOPMENTS ON THE SITE, UNLESS THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS A SCHOOL.

SO EVEN IF LET'S SAY THE SITE IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED INTO A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICATION IS TO ALLOW FOR UP TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE, A TREE ROOM WILL PERMIT US TO ALLOW THE REMOVAL OF NINE SIGNIFICANT TREES ON THE SIDE OF THE ARIEL.

UM, THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE FORMER PIONEER SCHOOL SITE, WHICH IS LOCATED THE NORTH SITE SITE OF ROLL-IN AVENUE, APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET WEST OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH AZUSA AVENUE V SITE IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL TO THE, TO THE WEST, TO THE, TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH.

AND IT ALSO, IT ALSO HAS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST AND SOUTH AS WELL.

THE PROJECT WOULD SERVE AS A BRIDGE TO BRIDGE THAT NEIGHBORING THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, OR THE NEIGHBORING COMMERCIAL USED TO THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL USE.

HERE'S THE BASIC PROJECT OVERVIEW.

THE SITE IS AN AN 900, I'M SORRY.

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UH, 9.14 ACRE SITE.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS FOR 158 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH WOULD COMPRISE OF 66 TWO-STORY SINGLE-FAMILY STELLARIS, UH, RESIDENCES AND THE, UM, THE SINGLE FAMILY STYLE HOME STORY, SINGLE FAMILY STYLE HOMES ARE LOCATED, OR I'VE BEEN SITUATED, SITUATED ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, UH, ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE, THE, AND ALSO ALONG THE WEST AND TOWARDS THE MID SECTION OF THE LA RIGHT ALONG HERE, THE, THERE ARE 92 ATTACHED, THREE STORYTIME HOMES ALSO PROPOSED WHERE THE FIVEPLEX FIVEPLEX STYLES ARE ALONG THE COMMERCIAL, NEAR THE ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND RIGHT ALONG HERE WHERE THE, WHERE MY POINTER IS POINTING OUT.

AND ALSO THE SIX PLEX INSTITU IS SITUATED OR SIGHTED MID ON THE MID PORTION OF THE LOT.

THE SITE IS ACCESSIBLE FROM TWO DRIVEWAYS ON ROLLING AVENUE, 1000, 10,000, NOT 10,450 SQUARE FOOT.

UM, I'M AN OPEN SPACE AREA RIGHT ALONG HERE IS DIRECTLY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE WEST DRIVEWAY.

EACH OF THESE DRIVEWAYS LEAD TO PRIVATE LANES THAT WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE HOMES ON THE SITE, UM, PARKING SPACES, AND ALSO THE PRIVATE OPEN, THE COMMON OPEN SPACE AREA.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 999 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

IN ADDITION TO THE TWO CAR GARAGE, THE PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE TWO CAR GARAGES FOR EACH RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

HERE'S THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN.

A COMBINATION OF TREES, SHRUBS AND GROUND COVER WILL BE INSTALLED ON SITE, INCLUDING MORE THAN 100 TREES RANGING FROM 24 INCH BOX SIZE THROUGH 30 INCH 30 INCH BOX SIZED.

THERE IS A RECOMMENDED CONDITION, UM, THAT 10 TREE, 10 OAK TREES BE REQUIRED TO BE PLANTED ONSITE TO REPLACE THE FIVE OAK TREES THAT WOULD BE REMOVED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

SO THERE IS GOING TO BE LAMP, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED ALONG THE FRONT, ALONG THE SIDE AND THE REAR ALONG THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING THAT 10 FOOT BLOCK WALLS OF THE HOUSE WOULD LIKE YOU TO UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE.

YOU CAN PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE 10, 10 FOOT BLOCK WALLS ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLED.

UM, CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MIC? SORRY.

WE CAN HARDLY HEAR YOU.

IN THIS, THIS PORTION RIGHT ALONG HERE IS I BELIEVE PIONEER DRIVE.

THE CO THE CUL-DE-SAC ON EILEEN STREET WILL NOT, WILL BE KEPT IN PLACE AND WILL NOT BE DIRECTLY OR ACCESSIBLE FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT THE FUTURE RESIDENCES, UM, IF APPROVED OF, OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE WOULD BE, UH, A GATE THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED ON DAILENE AVENUE, EILEEN STREET, CUL-DE-SAC FOR THE USE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES, ONLY PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BUDDING NEIGHBORS ALONG THE REAR END, THE SIDE AND REAR THE TOP PHOTOGRAPH IS OF THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ON THE WEST.

AND THE NAPE

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AND THE MIDDLE PHOTOGRAPH IS ALONG OF THE REAR.

AND THIS ROAD LIKE RIGHT ALONG HERE IS A LEAN STREET, THE BOTTOM PHOTOGRAPHS.

SO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT THE REAR OF THE SITE, I DO THINK COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT THE REAR OF THE SITE, AND ALSO THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.

OH, HERE ARE RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS IT WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM THE ROLAND AVENUE FRONTAGE.

SO IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE IN IT'S IN SECTION FROM, FROM EAT FROM WEST TO EAST.

SO ADJACENT TO THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE THE PROPERTIES ALONG THE, UM, THE TOP RENDERING.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE, THE ENTRY TO THE SITE.

AND THE BOTTOM PHOTOGRAPH IS THE SIX PLEX AND THE FIVEPLEX.

THIS IS ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE EAST WITH A DRIVEWAY ACCESS.

AND THIS, THIS RENDERING SHOWS THAT IT KINDA, IT MAKES IT KINDA LOOK LIKE THE, UM, THE FIVE, FIVE OR THE SIX PLEX IS, IS CLOSER TO THE STREET THAN IT IS.

IT'S ACTUALLY APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET BACK BECAUSE THERE, THERE IS PROPOSED PARKING RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT ON SITE.

HERE IS THE PROPOSED RENDERING OF PLAN ONE FOR THE SINGLE OR THE SINGLE FAMILY.

TWO-STORY SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL.

THEY, THERE ARE THREE PROPOSED DESIGNS, SPANISH COLONIAL COTTAGE FARMHOUSE AS SPANISH COLONIAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE UNITS WILL LEGALIZE GABLE ROUGH WITH, WITH CONCRETE S STYLES, STUCCO FINISHED WALLS RECESS, A WINDOW WINDOWS WITH TRIM DECORATIVE TILES, WHAT WOOD WINDOW SHUTTERS, MIDDLE RAILINGS, AND A DECORATIVE ROLL-UP GARAGE DOOR.

THE COTTAGE ARCHITECTURE WILL UTILIZE BOTH THE GABLE AND HIP ROOF WITH COMPOSITE SHINGLE, ROOF MATERIAL, STUCCO AND SAND FINISHED WALLS WITH STONE VENEER, VINYL WINDOWS WITH TRIM WOOD, WINDOWS, SHUTTERS, AND AGAIN, A DECORATIVE ROLL-UP GARAGE DOOR OR THE FARMHOUSE STYLE.

IT'LL UTILIZE A GABLE ROOF WITH COMPOSITE ROOF SHINGLES, STUCCO, AND FINISHED WALLS WITH BOARD AND BATTEN VERTICAL SIDING VINYL WINDOW WITH TRIM METAL RAILING IN A DECORATIVE GARAGE DOOR, OR THE SPANISH COLONIAL STYLE HOME.

THE PROPOSED HEIGHTS WOULD BE 25 FEET, EIGHT INCHES MAX FROM, FROM GRADE SEVEN TO THE HIGHEST POINT OR THE COTTAGE.

IT WOULD BE 27 FEET, SIX INCHES FROM GRADE TWO.

BY THIS POINT IN THE FARMHOUSE IS AGAIN, 20, UM, 27, SIX AS WELL.

YOU'RE THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN FOR PLAN ONE.

WHEN ONE IS 1,461 SQUARE FEET, THERE'S THREE BEDROOMS AND TWO BATHROOMS, TWO, TWO AND A HALF BATH.

EACH UNIT HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE IN 183 SQUARE FOOT.

PRIVATE OPEN SPACE.

HERE ARE THE RENDERINGS FOR PLAN TWO AND PLANS WHO HAS TO, OR IS COMPRISED OF TWO DIFFERENT TYPE OF ARCHITECT, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE FARMHOUSE IN SPANISH, COLONIAL THE MAC, THE HEIGHT PROPOSED FOR OR PLAN TO IS 25 FEET FROM GRADE TWO TO THE HIGHEST

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POINT.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN FOR PLAN TO 161,663 SQUARE FEET, THREE BEDROOMS, TWO AND A HALF BATH AS WELL.

A TWO CAR GARAGE IN PLANTS WHO HAS, HAS A LARGER PRIVATE OUTDOOR AREA AT 1,630 SQUARE FEET.

HERE IS THE RENDERING FOR PLAN THREE.

PLAN THREE IS ARMED HOUSE SPANISH COLONIAL.

IT'S THE SAME.

THE, THE HEIGHT FOR THE P FOR PLAN THREE IS THE SAME AS THE PROPOSED FOUR.

UM, I BELIEVE PLAN ONE IN, UH, MATERIALS.

DO YOU USE ART FOR THE FARMHOUSE IN SPANISH SHELL OR ALSO AT THE SCENE LAND THREE, UM, AS 1,798 SQUARE FEET, THREE BEDROOMS, TWO AND A HALF BATHS, TWO CAR GARAGE AND 212 SQUARE FEET OF PRIVATE OUTDOOR AREA.

SORRY.

I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MOST OF THE GOING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, MOST OF, MOST OF THE PROPERTIES DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE THE PLAN TO STYLE OR THE REPLANT, THE PLAN TWOS, OR THESE ARE THE PLANS USE IN THE, THE, THE REAR OF THEM, THE REAR OF THESE PLANTS UNITS FACE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALONG THE WEST AND THE NORTH AND THERE, AND THE WINDOWS FOR THESE UNITS ARE CLERESTORY AND ARE HIGHER, HIGHER UP SO THAT IT LETS LIGHT IN, BUT IT DOES NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO LOOK OUT.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THESE TWO UNITS, WHICH WHAT'S OUR PLAN, TWO UNITS HA UM, IT HAS BEDROOM WINDOWS THAT FACE INTO THIS PROPERTY PROPERTY.

UM, TWO PROPERTIES RIGHT ALONG HERE IS THE BACKYARD.

SO STAFF WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT.

UM, I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT IT AND HE IS WILLING TO ADDRESS, UH, STAFF'S CONCERN REGARDING THE, THE WINDOWS AND POTENTIAL PRIVACY IMPACTS TO THESE TWO NEIGHBORS.

SO MOVING ON TO THE THREE STORY TOWN, HOME STYLE UNITS, HE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURAL STYLE FOR THE, THE THREE, THE THREE UNITS ARE EITHER GOING TO BE A FIVEPLEX WITH FIVE UNITS PER BUILDING, OR A SIX PLEX WITH SIX UNITS PER BUILDING.

EACH OF THESE DESIGNS OR THE FIVEPLEX OR SIX PLEX ARE EITHER GOING TO BE FARMHOUSE, UM, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OR SPANISH COLONIAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

THE MATERIALS USED FOR THESE UNITS ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT IS USED FOR THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL STYLE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY STYLE HOMES.

YOU'RE IS THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN FOR, FOR THE FIVE PLEX.

I'M ONLY GOING TO SHOW THE FOUR PLANS FOR THE FIVEPLEX BECAUSE THE FIVE PLEX AND THE SIX PLEXES FOUR PLAN IS SIMILAR.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT, OR THE SIX PLEX THERE ARE, OR PLANNED ONES INSTEAD OF THREE PLAN ONES FOR THE FIVE PLEXES.

SO THERE THEY'RE ALL, ALL UNITS, ALL INDIVIDUAL UNITS, UM, IN COMPARISON FROM TWO, THE FIVE TO THE SIX PLEX ARE THE SAME SIZE.

SO FOR, FOR PLAN ONE, FOR THE THREE STORY, MULTI FAMILY UNITS PLAN ONE IS 1,310 SQUARE FEET.

PLAN TWO IS 1,495 SQUARE FEET.

AND PLAN THREE IS 1,721 SQUARE FEET.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

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THE PLANS ARE PLAN PLAN TWO HAS, HAS A DEN RIGHT IN THE BOTTOM, RIGHT ALONG HERE THAT CAN ALSO BE USED AS AN OFFICE AND HAS A POWDER ROOM RIGHT ALONG HERE ON THREE, HAS A BEDROOM ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR WITH ITS OWN BATHROOM AND CLOSET SPACE.

THEY EACH, EACH OF THE UNITS HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH STEPS LEADING UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR OR THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, ON ONE AND TWO HAVE DECKS ON THREE AND THREE, THE PLAN THREE UNITS DO NOT, AND THEY ALL HAVE A KITCHEN DINING AREA AND LIVING AREA, AND ALSO A, A POWDER ROOM.

AND HERE'S A FOR THE, THE, UM, FLOOR PLAN FOR THE THIRD STORY OR THIRD FLOOR.

AND ON THE THIRD, ON THE THIRD FLOOR, THEY ALL HAVE TWO BEDROOMS, ONE BEING A MASTER BEDROOM AND A BATHROOM.

SO THIS IS PORTION OF THE TREE INVENTORY THAT, UM, THE SIGNIFICANT TREES ARE THE TWO MAPLE TREES LIGHT AROUND HERE, WHICH CORRESPONDS TO THIS PHOTOGRAPH.

THIS TREE IS ACTUALLY THIS TREE RIGHT HERE.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT IS NOT LOCATED IN THE FRONT.

THIS TREE IS THAT THESE TREES ARE THE TWO BOTTLED BREAST TREES, WHICH ARE PHOTOGRAPHED RIGHT ALONG HERE AT THE BOTTOM.

AND THESE THREE OAK TREES ARE THE OAK TREES RIGHT ALONG HERE FROM, FROM RIGHT LEFT TO RIGHT THIS CORRESPONDS WITH THIS TREE, YES, WITH THAT.

AND ALSO THE ENS CHRIS BOND WITH EACH OTHER.

AND THEN THE, THESE TREES ARE LOCATED ON THE INNER QUAD OF THE SCHOOL.

THIS PARTICULAR TREE IS, IS THIS TREE ON THE TREE INVENTORY? AND THE, THIS IS THIS OAK TREE RIGHT ALONG HERE.

SO THE FIVE OAK TREES ARE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF THEIR SPECIES.

AND AGAIN, THE FA THE REMOVAL OF THE FIVE OAK TREES WOULD DEAL THE REQUIREMENTS OF REPLACING THOSE TREES WITH, WITH 10 TREES, UM, ON IT, ADD UP, UM, TWO TO ONE RATIO.

THE MINIMUM BOX SIZED FOR, FOR THE 10 REPLACEMENT TREES ARE 36 INCH BOX ON THE SITE.

AS FAR AS THE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROJECT IS CONCERNED.

WE ARE GOING TO RECORD, UM, THE PROJECT IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN ARTS AND, UM, TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ARTS AND PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM, THE APPLICANT HA WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF CONTRIBUTING ITS OWN PUBLIC ART EQUALING TO A HALF PERCENTAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION VALUATION, OR PAYING THAT AS THE IN LIEU FEE, THE, THE APPLICANTS WOULD ALSO HAVE TO PAY THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE, UM, EQUALING TO $226,542.

THAT'S AN APPROXIMATE, THAT'S AN APPROXIMATE FOR THIS, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

IT MAY, THAT AMOUNT MAY CHANGE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, STARTING IN, IN JULY, THE, THE PARK FEE A B APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO, TO CONSTRUCT A PARK ON THE SITES, A PUBLIC PARK, THE PARK DEDICATION IN LIEU FEE WOULD EQUAL TO APPROXIMATELY

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ONE, $1,750,000.

AS FAR AS COMMUNITY BENEFIT CONTRIBUTION IS CONCERNED.

THE APP, UM, THE APPLICANTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO, TO INITIATE, UM, UH, DOWN DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR A MINIMUM OF 15 HOMES EQUALING $150,000 IN I'LL GO OVER THE, THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT OR THIS DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN, IN, IN ANOTHER SLIDE.

SO THE CITY DOES HAVE RENA NUMBERS FOR THE YEAR 2021 TO 2026.

AND WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AREAS FOR 5,346 UNITS.

UM, THE DOWNTOWN, UM, THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER WOULD PROVIDE, UH, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP, UM, TO PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES, SUCH AS TEACHERS AND, UM, POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS B THE SITE, UM, IS A VACANT BUILDING.

AND WE CONSULTED WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY INFORMED US THAT THEY RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 162 CALLS FOR THE SITES, WHICH INCLUDED HOMELESS AND, UM, HOMELESS TRANSIENT, AND THIS SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE ON, IN TRESPASSERS ON THE SITE WITH THAT, THEY'VE MADE A TOTAL OF 10 ARREST ON THE SITE.

AS FAR AS COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS CONCERNED.

THE V APPLICANT CONDUCTED A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT THE APPLICANT CONDUCTED IS NOT THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, WHERE, WHERE A SET TIME AND DATE, UM, IS PROVIDED, AND ANYBODY CAN ATTEND THE MEETING AT THAT SET TIME AND DATE B DUE TO COVID THE COVID PANDEMIC, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS APPOINTMENT-BASED.

HOWEVER, THEY WERE, THEY SPOKE TO ANYBODY THAT, THAT WALKED TO THE MEETING AREA WITH QUESTIONS, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD AN APPOINTMENT.

THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING NOTICE WAS SENT OUT TO ALL PRO PROPERTY OWNERS AND OCCUPANTS WITHIN 300 FEET FROM THE SITES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE APPLICANTS ALSO APPROACHED, OR IS WORKING WITH, WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORS IN AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS, PUBLIC HERE, AS FAR AS PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES CONCERNED, THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WAS SENT OUT TO ALL OPERATE THE OWNERS AND THE OCCUPANTS WITHIN 300 FEET FROM THE SITE.

THERE WERE 59 OF THEM, AND IT WAS SENT OUT ON FEBRUARY 11TH.

IT WAS, WE MAILED IT OUT ON FEBRUARY 11, 2021.

IT WAS ALSO PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER ON FEBRUARY 11, 2021, WHICH IS MORE THAN THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CITY ALSO PUBLISHED THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITES AND ALSO ON THE, THE APPLICANT POSTED THE HEARING NOTICE ON THE SITE 30 DAYS PRIOR TO TODAY'S MEETING YOU PROJECT IS CONSIDERED A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

THE NOTICE OF INTENT AND NOTICE AVAILABILITY, AVAILABILITY, AVAILABILITY WITH CIRCULATED IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT DATES FROM, FROM NOVEMBER, 1920 20 TO DECEMBER 21ST, 2020 COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, UM, RECEIVED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANS TRANSPORTATION, SORRY FOR THE ERROR AND SPELLING IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT SEVEN COMMENTS WERE, I BELIEVE IT WAS EIGHT.

COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FROM CONCERNED.

INDIVIDUALS COMMENTS WERE PREPARED FOR, FOR LETTERS RECEIVED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

PERIOD.

IN ADDITION, COMMENTS WERE

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ALSO PREPARED FOR LETTERS RECEIVED BY FEBRUARY 24, 2021.

AND THESE COMMENTS AND LETTERS WERE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND ALSO PROVIDED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET.

IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OR LETTERS RECEIVED IN RELATION TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOTICE, WE ALSO RECEIVED ADDITIONAL LETTERS AFTER FEBRUARY 24, 2021.

THESE LETTERS OR EMAILS HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HAVE BEEN PRINTED OUT AND PROVIDED, UM, IN, IN PROVIDE, IN A COPIES OF IT ARE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR TODAY'S MEETING.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT WAS PREPARED BY THE CITY'S CONSULTANT, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS, WHICH IS SO MISS ELLIE, UM, ALIYAH WHO COOKIE FROM, FROM SOMAS IS A V IS AVAILABLE TO DO THE PRESENTATION ATTAINING TO THE SEQUENCE DOCUMENT.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS ALIA HOOKY.

I'M A SENIOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT MANAGER OF WITH SO MUCH AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS ON THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE BEEN TASKED FOR PREPARING THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT OR C CWA DOCUMENT FOR, UH, THE PROJECT C QUIET.

IT SHOULD STATE THAT SEQUEL APPLIES TO ALL THIS CRUSHING OUR REACTIONS.

AND THE PURPOSE OF PREPARING A SECRET DOCUMENT IS TO DISCLOSE TO THE DECISION-MAKERS AND THE PUBLIC, THE POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF A PROJECT AND HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ARE IDENTIFIED.

SEQUEL REQUIRES THAT FEASIBLE MITIGATION MEASURES ARE IDENTIFIED AND PROPOSED TO REDUCE THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT LEVELS.

UM, FOR THIS PROJECT, CITY OF WEST COVINA IS THE, UM, LEAD AGENCY.

SO THAT'S WHY AN INITIAL STUDY MEDICAID THAT NASDAQ IS THE APPROPRIATE SECRET DOCUMENT FOR THE PROJECT, THROUGH THE PREPARATION OF THE INITIAL STUDY AND MEDICAID AT NASDAQ, AND THE ANALYSIS THAT WE CONDUCTED FOR EACH OF THE TOPICS WE DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT WOULD RESULT IN EITHER NO IMPACT OR LESS THAN THE LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE TOPICS THAT ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES TO BE ANALYZED PER C QUAD GUIDELINES INCLUDE THE 20 TOPICS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE.

I SHOULD MENTION THAT PRETTY UPDATES TO SEQUEL GUIDELINES.

THE ENERGY AND WILDFIRE ARE THE LATEST ADDITIONS TO THE TOPICS AND FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT, ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT, WE HAVE ANALYZED ALL THE 20 TOPICS.

NOW, ONE POINT THAT I HAVE TO MAKE IS THAT WHEN WE REVIEW A DOCUMENT OR WHEN WE PREPARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF A PROJECT, IF WE DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT, WHAT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS, THAT CAN BE MEDICATED, THEN AN ENVIRONMENT, I'M SORRY, AN INITIAL STUDY AND MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENT FOR THE PROJECT.

AND IN THIS CASE, WE DETERMINED THAT ALTHOUGH THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS IDENTIFIED, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO INTRODUCE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WOULD REDUCE THE IMPACTS.

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I SHOULD NOTE THAT, OF COURSE THERE ARE, REGARDLESS OF THE LEVEL OF IMPACT, THERE ARE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS OR ARE OURS THAT THE PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH.

AND THAT COMPLIANCE IS REGARDLESS OF THE LEVEL OF IMPACT OF THE PROJECT.

NOW, ONE IMPORTANT POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, OH, I'M SO SORRY, JOANNE, THIS VERSION DOES NOT INCLUDE, SO I WANTED TO NOTE THAT WHILE THE TOPIC OF TRANSPORTATION EVALUATED, THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF A VEHICLE VEHICLE OR MILES TRAVELED OUR VMT, WHICH IS A RECENT REQUIREMENT THAT TOOK EFFECT IN JULY.

FIRST OF LAST YEAR, THE PROJECT WAS DEEMED EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF VMT.

AND AS A RESULT, A VMT ANALYSIS WAS NOT PREPARED.

OH, AND ALSO THAT IS THE MAP THAT BASICALLY A PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM PREPARATION OF THE, UM, VMT ANALYSIS, THE RATIONALE BEING THAT THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WHERE WITHIN A TPA ZONE TRANSIT PRIORITY AREA, AND AS SUCH THE CITY DEEMED THE PROJECT TO BE EXEMPT.

OKAY, NOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR THIS SPECIAL STATUS, MIGRATORY, BIRDS, AND THEIR NESTS AND EGGS, AND ACTUALLY FOR CARMEN AS WELL AS SPECIAL STATUS MIGRATORY BIRDS.

BASED ON THE ANALYSIS, WE ALSO DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT WOULD RESULT AND POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS RELATED TO TOPICS THAT ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE.

AND THE NEXT TWO SLIDES PER SEQUEL, IF A PROJECT RESULTS IN A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY FEASIBLE MITIGATION MEASURES TO REDUCE THE IMPACT THAN SIGNIFICANT LEVEL.

I BASICALLY TRY TO JUST SUMMARIZE THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WE PROPOSED FOR THE TOPICS OF BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, CULTURAL RESOURCES, GEOLOGY, AND SOILS NOISE, AND TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES IN CASE OF BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, GIVEN THAT THERE ARE ORNAMENTAL TREES ON THIS SIDE THAT COULD OR MAY INCLUDE NESTS.

IF THE NESTS ARE IMPACTED, WHY CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT COULD RESULT IN A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

WE KNOW ALSO THAT THE FEDERAL MIGRATORY BIRD TREATY ACT MBTA AND SEVERAL SECTIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA FISH AND GAME CODE

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SO THE MEDICATION THAT WE PROPOSE BASICALLY REQUIRED THAT RATING AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES OCCUR OUTSIDE OF THE NESTING AND BREEDING SEASON, WHICH IS TYPICALLY STARTING IN MARCH.

AND, AND THEN BY MID AUGUST, IF THE MILITIA OR SITE PREPARATION ACTIVITIES START DURING THIS PARTICULAR SEASON, THEN THE MEDICATION REQUIRES A PRE-CONSTRUCTION SURVEY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE NESTS WITHIN THE IMPACT AREA, THAT THERE'S A FENCE CREATED AROUND THE IMPACT AREA, AND THE BIOLOGIST ACTUALLY SERVES AS, UM, AS A MONITOR TO MAKE SURE THAT DURING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, NO IMPACTS WHAT OCCURRED TO THE NESTING BIRDS IN TERMS OF CULTURAL RESOURCES.

ALTHOUGH WE DETERMINED BASED ON THE RECORDS SEARCHES THAT WERE CONDUCTED BY OUR SPECIALIST, CULTURAL RESOURCES SPECIALIST, UM, THERE ARE SEARCHES THAT NOT RESOLVED IN ANY DETERMINATION OF POTENTIAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE AREA.

NEVERTHELESS, WE PROPOSED MITIGATION THAT BASICALLY SAID THAT DURING EARTH MOVING ACTIVITIES DURING CONSTRUCTION, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL INCLUDE OR QUALIFIED ARCHEOLOGISTS TO MONITOR THE ACTIVITIES.

AND THE MONITOR WILL SET OR ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES IF THEY COME ACROSS ANY POTENTIAL RESOURCES.

WE ALSO IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL IMPACTS WITH GEOLOGY AND SOILS.

AND BASICALLY THE MEDICATION THAT WE INTRODUCED WAS TO COMPLY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT.

ADDITIONALLY, WITHIN THE GEOLOGY AND SOIL SECTION, WE HAVE THE TOPIC OF PALEONTOLOGICAL RESOURCES.

WE INTRODUCED A MITIGATION MEASURE THAT IF GRADING ACTIVITIES ENCOUNTER ANY PALEONTOLOGICAL RESOURCES THAT WERE UNKNOWN AROUND THE SERVING ACTIVITIES WILL STOP.

AND THE QUALIFIED PALEONTOLOGIST WILL EXAMINE THE MATERIALS AND RECOMMEND COURSES OF ACTION.

AND OUR ANALYSIS OF THE NOISE IMPACTS.

WE ALSO DETERMINED A POTENTIAL IMPACT WITH CONSTRUCTION NOISE, UH, TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SITE.

THE MITIGATION MEASURE CAUSE FOR A NOISE BARRIER AND OF 12 FOOT HIGH, AND THAT NOISE BARRIER WILL BE IMPLEMENTED OR INSTALLED ALONG THE NORTHERN AND WESTERN BOUNDARIES OF THE SITE THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES.

IN ADDITION, WE PROPOSED A MITIGATION MEASURE TO REDUCE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT VIBRATION IMPACTS.

AND THIS PARTICULAR MEDICATION MEASURE TALKS ABOUT THE DISTANCE OF THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT FROM EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO LAST BUT

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NOT LEAST, THERE'S THE ISSUE OF TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES WE CONSULTED WITH THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES.

AND ALTHOUGH BASED ON OUR RECORDS SEARCHES, WE DIDN'T DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY PARTICULAR ISSUES.

HOWEVER, BASED ON OUR CONSULTATION, WE CAME UP IN AGREEMENT WITH THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE AND THE CITY.

UM, WE PROPOSE THE MEDICATION MEASURE THAT REQUIRES A NATIVE AMERICAN MONITOR DURING GRADING ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE FEET OF THE NATIVE SOIL TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT IMPACT ANY UNKNOWN RESOURCES THAT MAKES IT, SO THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION.

AND UNTIL YOU WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE DEVELOPER, WELL, I'M NOT DONE.

I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE RECOMMENDATION.

UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTIONS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.

AGAIN, JUST TO, JUST TO CLARIFY THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTION WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO, TO, UH, TO APPROVE THE PROJECT.

THAT IS WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.

THE COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE THE PURVIEW TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, UM, WITHOUT, WITHOUT IT GOING TO THE COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IF THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TAKES ACTION TONIGHT, DEPENDING ON THE ACTION, IT WILL STILL BE REQUIRED TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE RESOLUTIONS.

THERE ARE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

HOWEVER, THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE, ARE, UM, RECOMMEND ARE, ARE THOSE CONDITIONS ARE APPROVAL.

OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THAT, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR FIRM FOR ME, OR ALSO, AND ALSO THE CITY'S CONSULTANTS WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.

WE ALSO HAVE, UM, JEN JENNA, JENNA ROBBINS, WHICH IS THE CITY'S TRAFFIC TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THE ZOOM CALL AND ALSO MICHAEL ECKERMANN, WHICH IS THE CITY'S THE CITY ENGINEER, UM, ON THE ZOOM CALL AS WELL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, THEY ARE ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.

OKAY, THANK, THANK YOU JOANNE FOR THE REPORT AND THANK YOU FOR ALL SQL CONSULTANTS, UM, TO HELP US WITH THE REPORTS.

NOW, DOES ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAS QUESTIONS FOR ALL STAFF WHILE CONSULTANTS OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARINGS? DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? GO AHEAD.

I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, ON THE EIR, UM, WITH, WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION, I COUNTED ONLY 15 OF THE 20 ELEMENTS THAT HAD, UH, NO SIGNIFICANT OR, OR NO IMPACT.

I WAS, I ONLY SAW TWO IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU, THAT YOU DISCUSSED AS, AS BEING, UH, MATTERS THAT THAT HAD, UM, MAJOR IMPACTS THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE MITIGATED.

UH, ACTUALLY, EXCUSE ME, I COUNTED THREE, UM, INCLUDING NOISE WAS, WAS ONE YOU DISCUSSED, BUT I DIDN'T SEE UP ON THE SCREEN.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR THE OTHER TWO.

UM, I'M SORRY.

I, IF I WAS NOT CLEAR ON THAT, THERE ARE FIVE TOPICS THAT MAY POTENTIALLY RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ARE BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, CULTURAL RESOURCES, GEOLOGY, AND SOILS NOISE, AND TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES.

IT CAN, CAN, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE, UH, THE TRIBAL AND CULTURAL AND EXCUSE ME, WHAT WAS THE OTHER NOISE? UH, TRIBAL WAS THE LAST ONE, THE GEOLOGICAL, UM, THE CULTURAL RESOURCES AND TRIBAL CULTURAL

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RESOURCES.

WE CONDUCTED RECORDS SEARCHES FOR BOTH TOPICS.

UM, IN THE SEARCHES USUALLY DO A RADIUS OF HALF AN HALF A MILE FROM THE SIDE.

UM, NOTHING WAS IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF POTENTIALLY SENSITIVE RESOURCES.

HOWEVER, IN TERMS OF OUR COLLAGE LOCAL RESOURCES UNDER THE TOPIC OF CULTURAL RESOURCES, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE AVOID ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN UNKNOWN.

WE PROPOSE A MITIGATION MEASURE WHERE WE HIRE A MONITOR AND OUR COLOR LOGICAL MONITOR TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE FINES THAT THEY ARE THERE, UH, TO EVALUATE THAT PARTICULAR FIND AND SAME WITH TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES.

AND THEN THIS CASE, THE, THE MONITOR IS BASICALLY AN NATIVE AMERICAN MONITOR.

AND THAT CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN CONSULTATION THAT WAS DONE, UH, IN TERMS OF GEOLOGY AND SOILS, THE MITIGATION THAT WE PROPOSED BASICALLY REQUIRED COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE GEOTECHNICAL STUDY.

AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FEATURE ISSUES SUCH AS THE DESIGN, THE, UM, EARTHWORK ACTIVITIES.

UM, SO, AND THEY HAVE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE ISSUES AND TOPICS.

SO OUR MEDICATION IS TO COMPLY WITH THOSE MEASURES, EVEN THOUGH THE REP THE REPORT DID CONCLUDE THAT THE PROJECT IS FEASIBLE FROM A GEO-TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.

THANK YOU, SHERRY, IF I MAY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE DOCUMENT, UM, THE SECRET DOCUMENT IS A NEGATIVE, A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.

UM, IT IS NOT A ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

THE S SO WHO MADE THE AGREEMENT? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS IN STAFF.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS, ALL STAFF WHILE, UM, UM, UH, ON THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UH, FOR THOSE 15 HOMES, IS THAT, UH, UH, ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FROM THE CITY OF WEST COVINA OR SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY WITH FANNIE MAE OR FREDDIE MAC, AND WHAT WOULD THEY BE EVEN CAUSE THERE ARE CONFORMING LOAN LIMITS FOR THOSE LOANS.

SO WHAT YOU KNOW, OR WHAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR.

SO WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE WOULD THAT BE? SO, UH, VICE CHAIR FOR SARAH, WE, UM, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT WAS TO PROVIDE, UM, SOME KIND OF HOUSING PROGRAMMERS ASSISTANCE, UM, AND THE DEVIL.

SO WHAT WAS AGREED UPON WAS THIS, UM, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHERE IT WOULD BE TARGETED FOR PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES THAT INCLUDES TEACHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, ANYONE THAT WORKS FOR PUBLIC IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.

UM, IT WAS A PROGRAM OF UP TO 150,000.

THERE IS NO, UM, INCOME RESTRICTIONS.

IT'S A PROGRAM THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER.

UM, AND THEN THE CITY WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON APPROVING THE PROGRAM THAT THEY DEVELOP THAT THE INTENT WAS FOR THE PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES, RIGHT DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OF UP TO 150,000, IS THAT FOR EACH OF THE 15, UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED AND THE PROGRAM TOTAL UP TO 150,000, AND I THINK A MINIMUM OF 50 OR 15, UM, HOMES.

SO IT EQUATES TO 10,000 OR IN HOME.

WHAT QUESTION? SO WHAT, WHO, WHO SUGGESTED THE LIMITATION TO JUST PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES? I BELIEVE THAT WAS WHAT WAS AGREED UPON BETWEEN THE CITY AND, UH, LOUIS HOMES OR LEWIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, WHEN THE PROJECT WAS INITIATED.

AND, AND, AND SO THAT WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH

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WAS IT, WAS IT A STAFF DETERMINATION THAT IT'S LIMITED TO JUST PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES OR YES, IT WAS STUFF THAT MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? AYE.

AYE.

I GUESS I'M, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE, UH, QUESTIONING WHY IT'S LIMITED TO PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES AND, AND I'LL ALSO SAY THERE IS A CHASM BETWEEN TEACHERS AND WHAT POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS MAKE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND SO I, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M NOT, UH, I'M, I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO IT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT I'LL, I'LL SAY, I THINK IF WE'RE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOWER INCOMES, I THINK THIS, THIS OUGHT TO BE A MORE NARROWLY TAILORED.

IF, IF THAT IS THE CASE, I THINK THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE YOUR COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AS I THINK, AND WE CAN TALK FURTHER, BUT IT'S A PROGRAM THAT HAS NOT BEEN SET IN STONE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY, I GUESS, UM, TO ADD TO WHAT OUR COMMISSIONER NICK LEWIS WAS, UM, QUESTIONING IS WHY NOT OPEN UP TO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA? I'M SORRY, WHAT I'M JUST ASKING TO SEE WHY NOT OPEN UP TO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, NOT JUST ONE SECTOR, GO AHEAD.

UH, FOR THE PUBLIC SECTOR, UH, FOR POLICE AND FIRE IS ORDERED TO READS NOW, I'M SORRY.

THE PROGRAM WERE ONLY BENEFITS POLICE AND FIRE EXAMPLES.

IF IT'S A PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEE FROM ANYONE OR ANY AGENCY OR SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WESTFIELD POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, OR, UM, ONCE AGAIN, THE PROGRAM, HASN'T THE GUIDELINES HAVEN'T BEEN ESTABLISHED.

I THINK WE'D LIKE TO MAYBE GIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A PREFERENCE TO WEST COVINA EMPLOYEES AND OUR RESIDENTS, AND THEN DEPENDING ON THEIR INTEREST OR THEIR ABILITY TO QUALIFY FOR THE HOMES THEMSELVES, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE 15 UNITS ARE FILLED.

SO I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND I THINK, UH, BUT ALSO HERE COMMISSIONER LEWIS, LOUIS'S CONCERN.

AND I THINK THERE'S, I THINK THE PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE MORE BROADER, UH, TO ENSURE, UH, THAT, UH, AND MAYBE THEIR CITY ATTORNEY COULD ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE ON THAT TO ENSURE, UH, UH, EQUAL ACCESS TO THAT APPLICATION PROCESS.

SO THE CITY IS NOT LIABLE TO SAY THAT WE'RE ONLY CATERING TO TWO GROUPS WHILE ELIMINATING OTHER PUBLIC SECTOR GROUPS.

AND SO WHEN WE, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN ELABORATE ON, UH, THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE A MORE BROADER, UH, IF A MORE BROADER SPECTRUM IS NEEDED AND ACCORDING TO THE LAW AND THE CIVIL CODE.

AND ALSO, UM, I THINK SOME IMPORTANT THAT IF WE DO CREATE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, THAT THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE THAT PREVENT FRAUD AND MISUSE OF THAT PROGRAM TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S FAIRNESS IN THIS PROCESS.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WE DID GIVE EXAMPLES OF TEACHERS PLACED AND FIRE.

THOSE ARE THE MOST COMMON, YOU KNOW, OCCUPATIONS, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT LIMITED TO THOSE THREE, $10,000 ONLY BECAUSE I, $10,000 IS, DOES GO A LONG WAY FOR THE PURCHASE, VAL SICK, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE THAT TOWARDS THE CLOSING COSTS OF THE PURCHASE.

BUT THE REASON I WAS ASKING, UM, SO IT'S NOT REALLY DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

IT'D BE LIKE A CREDIT TOWARDS PURCHASING, WHICH A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS GIVE THAT TO ALL OF THEM, AS LONG AS THEY USE THEIR LENDER OR GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THEM FOR, UH, THEIR FINANCING NEEDS.

BUT THEY WOULD, I GUESS WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IS THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GIVE IT TO 15 HOMES, RIGHT? AT $10,000, THAT $10,000 CREDIT, UM, THAT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO OFFER A SEAT BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE IN THE FORM OF A DOWN PAYMENT.

IF IT'S ONLY 10,000, THEY CAN GIVE IT TOWARDS THE CLOSING COSTS.

SO THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO OFFER THAT TO THOSE 15 HOMES, NOT TO ALL OF THE PURCHASES.

CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION ACTIVITIES, THE PROJECT, WELL, UH, BASICALLY SEEK A PERMIT, AN NPDS, UH, NATIONAL POLLUTANT, DISCHARGE ELIMINATION ELIMINATION SYSTEM PERMIT, OR IT'S GONNA FALL UNDER NPDS GENERAL CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.

UM, THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE A QUESTIONS FOR OUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT CONSULTANTS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE FIVE SIGNIFICANT, UM, FINDINGS I LIKE TO HEAR.

AND ALSO ALL RESIDENTS DO LIKE TO HEAR THE OTHER, UM, 15 OR SO, UM, ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED NOT SO NOT SIGNIFICANT,

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NOT SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS.

CAN YOU GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS QUICKLY? WHY IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT IMPACT STARTING WITH AESTHETICS? YES.

IF YOU COULD JUST SUMMARIZE A REALLY QUICK ONE, GO THROUGH THE LIST BECAUSE THERE WERE 15 OF THEM, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT FIVE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT, BUT I'M SURE THE ALL RESIDENTS AND FOR US TO, WHY IS IT THE OTHERS ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT.

IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE US, CAN YOU PUT THAT LIST UP AGAIN, PLEASE? OKAY.

SO THE FI THE 15 TOPICS, UM, START, WHEREAS STATICS AGRICULTURE, I QUALITY ENERGY, GREENHOUSE HAZARDS, HYDROLOGY LAND USE MANDRILL RESOURCES, POPULATION, HOUSING, PUBLIC SERVICES, RECREATION, TRANSPORTATION, UTILITIES, AND WILDLIFE.

I'M SORRY, WILDFIRE, IN TERMS OF AESTHETICS, WE DETERMINED THAT.

AND BY THE WAY, THESE TOPICS ARE INCLUDED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT AND DETAILED ANALYSIS ARE PROVIDED FOR EACH OF THE THRESHOLD QUESTIONS WITHIN EACH TOPIC, IN TERMS OF AESTHETICS, WE DETERMINED THAT THERE ARE NO SCENIC VISTAS AND THERE ARE NO DESIGNATED SCENIC HIGHWAYS AND THE FACILITY OF THE PROJECT, SUCH THAT CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE PROJECT, WHAT IMPACT THESE RESOURCES, THE PROJECT WILL CHANGE THE EXISTING VIEWS OF THE SITE THAT IS FOR SURE, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING USES.

AND THEN IN ADDITION, THE PRIVATE, THE PROJECT HAS PROVIDED OR WILL INCLUDE SUFFICIENT BUFFERS BETWEEN THE EXISTING USES AND THE DEVELOPMENT LAST BUT NOT LEAST.

AND THIS UNDER THIS TOPIC IS LIGHTING.

LIGHTING IS NOT A NEW PHENOMENON IN THIS AREA.

THERE IS EXISTING AMBIENT LIGHTING ALREADY AND NIGHT LIGHTING ALREADY IN THE AREA.

AND THIS IS JUST THE NATURE OF BEING WITHIN AN ENVIRONMENT, AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT, AND A DEVELOP ENVIRONMENT IN TERMS OF AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTRY, UH, SITE IS NOT SEWN FOR OUR CULTURAL RESOURCES.

AND THERE ARE NO AGRICULTURAL AREAS IN THE VICINITY OF THE SITE, SUCH THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED, BUT DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT, I WILL LEAVE AIR QUALITY, ENERGY, G, G, AND NOISE FOR MY COLLEAGUE HERE, DARIA, WHO IS OUR RESOURCE, WHO IS OUR TECHNICAL SPECIALISTS.

SO I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH THOSE.

AND SHE WILL TALK ABOUT THEM IN TERMS OF HAZARDS AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS REPORTS HAVE BEEN PREPARED.

ALTHOUGH THERE'S DEMOLITION ACTIVITIES, THERE WILL BE DEMOLITION ACTIVITIES, BUT THE REPORTS HAVE MEASURES IN PLACE.

AND ALSO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FEDERAL STATE AND CITY REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH IN TERMS OF DEMOLITION AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.

AND ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT SITE IS NOT ON A LIST OF, UM, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL SITES, UM, HYDROLOGY, I THINK IN TERMS OF HYDROLOGY AND IMPROVEMENTS, UM, I BELIEVE GLEN WOULD BE THE BEST PERSON, UM, TO PROVIDE INFORMATION.

BUT BOTTOM LINE IS THAT BOTH DURING

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ACCORDING TO WHICH THERE WILL BE A, UM, A STUDY PREPARED THAT FULL INCLUDE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, UM, THAT WILL PROVIDE THE GUIDANCE TO PROJECT IN TERMS OF, UM, NOT RESULTING INSIGNIFICANT WATER QUALITY IMPACTS AND SAME AS TRUE FOR THE OPERATION PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS, AS I SAID, I'M SURE GLEN WILL SPEAK TO THOSE MORE SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF LAND USE AND PLANNING.

WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE FIRST THRESHOLD OF THIS TOPIC TALKS ABOUT DISPLACING EXISTING USE ON THE SIDE, AND THAT IS NOT TRUE FOR THE PROJECT.

THE EXISTING, THERE IS NO EXISTING USE ON THE SITE.

IT'S VACANT.

THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL USES ON THE SITE THAT WOULD BE DISPLACED BY THE PROJECT.

AND WE WENT ALSO THROUGH AN ANALYSIS OF COMPATIBILITY OR CONSISTENCY, I SHOULD SAY, WITH CITY'S GENERAL PLAN POLICIES.

AND OUR CONCLUSION WAS THAT OVERALL, THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE POLICIES, MINERAL RESOURCES.

THE SITE IS NOT AS NEEDED AS A MINERAL RESOURCES EXTRACTION SITE.

THERE ARE KNOWN WHEN THERE ARE NO KNOWN MINERAL RESOURCES EXTRACTION SITE IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROJECT THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY DEVELOPMENT OF WALNUT GROVE PROJECT POPULATION HOUSING.

YES, THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE, UH, OR WILL GENERATE A TOTAL OF 529 PEOPLE ON THE SIDE, BUT IN COMPARISON TO THE POPULATION OF THE CITY, IT IS 0.1% OF THE POPULATION OF THE CITY.

SO IT IS NOT CONSIDERED A SIGNIFICANT, UM, DIRECT IMPACT.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE NO RESIDENCES ON THE SITE THAT WOULD BE DISPLACED BY THE PROPOSED PROJECT PUBLIC SERVICES.

BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, THE PROJECTS DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES ARE WITHIN THE EXISTING CAPACITY.

THE PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO RESULT OR WILL NOT REQUIRE, UM, ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL TO BE ADDED IN ORDER TO SERVE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE DETERMINED THE IMPACTS WOULD BE FAST AND SIGNIFICANT RECREATION, A NUMBER OF, AND ALSO ACTUALLY REGARDING PUBLIC SERVICES.

THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO PAY A DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES THAT WOULD MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACTS RECREATION.

SOME OF THIS DEMAND WILL BE MET ONSITE, UM, WITH THE PROVISION OF THE OPEN SPACE AS CENTRAL IN A CENTRAL LOCATION AND A PUBLIC PARK.

IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO PAY PARK FEES THAT WILL MITIGATE SOME OF THE INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR, UM, RECREATION SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION BASED ON THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS CONDUCTED.

AND BY THE WAY, MY COLLEAGUE DARLENE, UM, IS ONLINE.

SHE'S OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC, SHE'LL BE HAPPY TO, UM, ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, BUT OVERALL, THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE TRIPS,

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A TOTAL OF 1,124, WHICH IS CONSIDERED A MINOR INCREASE.

UM, YOU TELL AT THESE AND SERVICE SYSTEM, AGAIN, THE PROJECT WILL INCREASE THE DEMAND, BUT THE DEMAND IS NOT BEYOND THE CAPACITY OF THE EXISTING UTILITY PROVIDERS AS SUCH.

WE CAN SERVE THE IMPACTS TO BE LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT AND WILDFIRE, SORRY, NOT WILDLIFE.

UM, THE PROJECT IS NOT IN A VERY HIGH RISK FIRE HAZARD AREA, AND THERE ARE NO SUCH AREAS THAT NO VICINITY OF THE PROJECT.

UH, THE PROJECT IS IN A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED URBAN ENVIRONMENT WITHIN THE CITY.

SO THAT RISK IS LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT.

SO I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO AIR QUALITY, ENERGY AND GREENHOUSE GAS.

I KNOW ALL YOU ALREADY WENT OVER NOISE.

UM, SO FOR AIR QUALITY, UH, THERE ARE FOUR THRESHOLDS AND BASICALLY THEY HAVE TO DO WITH COMPLYING WITH AN APPLICABLE AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT PLAN.

SO THEY, UH, FOR, UH, THE AQM D SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, UM, AND A COUPLE OTHERS.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS MODELED THE AIR QUALITY EMISSIONS FROM CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE PROJECT AND HOW IT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO MASS REGIONAL THRESHOLDS.

AND SO THAT'S THE AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AQM D THRESHOLDS ON A REGIONAL LEVEL AND ALSO ON A LOCAL LEVEL.

SO WHAT'S LITERALLY OCCURRING ON SITE AND WHAT COULD IMPACT THE RESIDENCES AND ANYONE AROUND ANY SENSITIVE RECEPTORS.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, FOR BOTH OF THOSE REGIONAL AND LOCALIZED MISSIONS, UM, THEY WERE FOUND TO BE LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT AND UNDER THE THRESHOLDS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION ON A MASS MASS LEVEL ON A REGIONAL LEVEL ON AND ON A LOCAL LEVEL.

UM, SO WITH THAT, THAT ACTUALLY DIDN'T REQUIRE MITIGATION.

UM, AND IT REQUIRES COMPLIANCE WITH RULE FOUR OH THREE FOR THE AMD, WHICH IS FOR FUGITIVE DUST, MAKING SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANY VISIBLE DUST AND THAT THE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC IS PROTECTED FROM THAT.

UH, IT'S VERY STRICT ROLE AND RULE FOUR OH TWO, WHICH IS BASICALLY PROTECTING FROM ANY NEW, LIKE ANY NUISANCES OR ANY OTHER EMISSIONS OR ODORS, UM, COMING FROM THE SITE AT ALL.

SO THAT COVERS OTHER EMISSIONS AND IT ALSO COVERS, UM, CUMULATIVE, UM, AIR QUALITY IMPACTS.

SO ON THE SAME NOTE FOR I'LL JUST JUMP TO, UH, GHG, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

SO WE ALSO MODELED THAT, UM, AND THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

SO IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT, UM, THE MOBILE TRIPS, WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE NATURAL GAS BEING USED, THE ENERGY ELECTRICAL, ET CETERA.

AND IT, WE FOUND IT TO BE UNDER THE 3000 METRIC, TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE, UM, EQUIVALENT THRESHOLD THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY THE SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

UM, AND THAT WE FOUND THAT IT WOULD NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON ENVIRONMENT AND WOULD NOT CONFLICT WITH ANY APPLICABLE PLANS.

UM, SO THE PROJECT WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH TITLE 24 GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL, WHEN YOU PUT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN IT, IT REQUIRES MORE STRINGENT REGULATIONS.

SO BASICALLY LIKE NEW, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES MAY NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 50% OF THEIR ENERGY NEEDS TO COME FROM SOLAR AND ALL THESE THINGS.

AND THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH.

UM, SO ON THAT SAME NOTE FOR ENERGY, UM, THE ENERGY ANALYSIS BASICALLY GOES THROUGH HOW MUCH ENERGY IS CONSUMED DURING CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION AND FOUND IT TO BE TYPICAL OF A PROJECT AND THAT IT WOULD NOT CONFLICT WITH ANY ENERGY PLAN OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD, UM, IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT NEGATIVELY.

SO THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THIS IS EARLY KNOW HEROIN WAS SO MISS, UM, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, DID THE TRAFFIC ON THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR EXPLAINING ALL THE 20 ITEMS THAT'S ON THE IMPACT LIST.

AND, UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I MIGHT, IF, IF, WELL, LET ME CONTINUE BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S A TROUT, YOU HA YOU DO HAVE A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT ONLINE.

IS THAT CORRECT? I WAS WONDERING IF I CAN ASK HER OR, OR, OR HIM, I FORGOT WHO IT WAS.

UM, IF, UM, WE, IF SHE CAN EXPLAIN WITH THE ADDITION OF 158 HOMES, AND YOU HAD MENTIONED 500 SOMETHING RESIDENTS OR SO THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY LIVE THERE.

HOW IS THE TRAFFIC, UM, BEING MEDICATED? HEY, SO

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SO OTHER A COUPLE OF THINGS, I MEAN, WITH THE, THE NEW PROCESS, UM, FOR REVIEWING POTENTIAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS TRAFFIC IMPACTS, UM, UNDER EQUA, THE FOCUS REALLY IS ON THE BMT.

UM, AND AS ALL YOU MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED IN A TRANSIT PRIORITY AREA, WHICH UNDER THE CITY GUIDELINES, UM, INDICATES THAT IT IS EXEMPT FROM BMT ANALYSIS.

AND THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT IS THAT IF THERE'S A GOOD AND EASY AND CLOSE ACCESS TO TRANSIT SERVICES, TO GOODS AND SERVICES, UH, THAT PEOPLE AT THE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR AN OFFICE OR RETAIL, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, UH, ARE GENERALLY GOING TO BE MORE LIKELY TO USE THOSE TRANSIT SERVICES AND MAYBE NOT DRIVE QUITE AS MUCH.

UM, AND THEN ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE SIDE, UH, WHICH IS, I GUESS, MORE OF THE, THE TYPICAL WAY THAT WE USE TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC IMPACTS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT AND ITS LOCATION AND THE VMT, UH, EXEMPTION, UH, LEVEL OF SERVICE WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY EVALUATED.

UM, PART OF THAT IS THAT THE PROJECT ITSELF, ALTHOUGH WE WILL HAVE A HUNDRED AND 158 UNITS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING AT MOST ABOUT 106, UH, VEHICLE TRIPS IN THE PEAK HOUR, UH, THAT WHEN DISTRIBUTED THOSE TRIPS, WHEN DISTRIBUTED BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS OF TRAVEL AND INBOUND AND OUTBOUND, UM, AS THOSE TRIPS ARE DISTRIBUTED FROM THE SITE WILL NOT HAVE, UH, ARE NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE ANY SORT OF SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OPERATIONS OF THE ADJACENT INTERSECTIONS, UH, FOR THE FOCUS FOR THIS PARTICULAR STUDY, IT WAS REALLY MORE ON ENSURING SAFE ACCESS TO THE SITE.

UM, SO WE, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE, THE SITES, THE SITE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE.

SO THE ABILITY FOR DRIVERS LEAVING THE SITE TO SEE TRAFFIC COMING SO THEY COULD MAKE A FACE MOVEMENT EXITING, UM, AND JUST, I MEAN, THE, THE ACCESS WITHIN THE SITE ITSELF.

UH, SO WE, WE ACTUALLY DID NOT DO A DETAILED, UH, DELAY ANALYSIS BECAUSE GIVEN AGAIN, GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE SITE, THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO BE GENERATED AND THE LOCATION, UM, THE, THOSE TRIPS SORT OF FALL BELOW THE THRESHOLD OF, OF REQUIRING THAT ANALYSIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR EXPLAINING THE, UM, THE IMPACTS AND THE SUMMARIES OF THE FINDINGS.

IT REALLY HELPS TO EXPLAIN TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, AND ALSO AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS WHO WILL LIVE CLOSE BY AND WHO CAN HEAR ALL THE IMPACTS AND WHAT THE STUDIES ARE ALL ABOUT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, WITH REGARDS TO, UM, HAS ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES BEEN DONE IN REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC ON ROLLING AVENUE AND IN REGARDS TO IF A CROSSWALKS NEEDED, BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEW RESIDENTS ARE, ARE EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THAT AREA.

HAS ANY STUDIES BEEN DONE TO SEE IF A CROSSWALK OR A STREETLIGHT MAY BE NEEDED? BECAUSE I KNOW ON ROLLING AVENUE, THERE'S EXTREMELY, UH, FAST CARS THAT GO ON THAT STREET AND IT'S RIGHT.

ADJACENT TO OBVIOUSLY A SUICIDE, A SUS AVENUE.

SO MY CONCERN WILL BE IS THAT, HAS ANY STUDIES BEEN DONE TO SEE IF, IF, UM, CROSSWALKS OR STREETLIGHTS ARE NEEDED FOR THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT JANA, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF? SURE.

OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER, JENNA ROBBINS, IS, IS ON ZOOM, AND SHE MAY BE ABLE TO ADJUST THAT QUESTION.

UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, UM, AT THIS POINT, NO, UM, ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE ON ROLAND.

ROLAND HAS A 40 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT.

SO IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT WE WOULD PUT A UNCONTROLLED CROSSWALK ACROSS ROLLING.

UM, THE PROJECT ITSELF IS, BUT THEN 400 FEET OF A MAJOR SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.

SO WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO, UM, USE THE PROTECTED CROSSING AT THE INTERSECTION.

I KNOW THAT SOME TRAFFIC CALMING, UM, QUESTIONS HAS COME UP AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS, UM, ON THE SIDE, ON A CITY LEVEL, BUT NOT IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT, THIS PROJECT LOOKED AT ACCESS AND, UM, FOLLOWED THE TRAFFIC STUDY GUIDELINES.

SO IN YOUR, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THAT NO, UM, STUDIES HAVE NOT BEEN CONDUCTED

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YET ON ROLLING.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH REGARD TO THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.

UM, I I'M, I'M CURIOUS, JUST LOOKING BACK AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS, UH, INFILL DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA HAS APPROVED, UH, OVER THE PAST 10 TO 15 YEARS.

UH, HAVE WE, HAVE WE IMPOSED ANY, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, UH, AS TO ANY OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE GONE INTO THE CITY IN AN INFILL CONTEXT OVER THE LAST, UH, 10 TO 15 YEARS? I'LL TALK ABOUT LIKE THE, UH, THERE THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OVER BETWEEN GARVEY OR EXCUSE ME, OFF OF GARVEY BETWEEN, UH BARRANCA AND, AND GRAND, AND THEN THERE'S, UH, THERE'S TWO DEVELOPMENTS OFF OF LARK ELLEN BETWEEN, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S, I THINK THE, I THINK THE NEAREST CROSS WOULD PROBABLY BE CREEK AND, UH, AND CAMERON, UH, THERE'S ALSO A DEVELOPMENT OFF OF, UH, WELL, WE'RE, VALENTA TURNS INTO WEST COVINA PARKWAY.

UM, I THINK THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST ANALOGOUS THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT WE'VE DONE IN RECENT HISTORY.

HAVE WE, HAVE WE SEEN ANY NEED TO DO ANY TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES FOR ANY OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS? I CAN ONLY SPEAK ON THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY AND IN SOME CASES, YES, THERE ARE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THAT ARE PART OF A PROJECT.

LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT WHERE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS A BIG SHOPPING CENTER OR SOMETHING.

SO THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF IT WARRANTS A SIGNAL OR IT WARRANTS A CROSSWALK OR SO THERE'S THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TO SEE IF THE DEVELOPMENT HAS ENOUGH TRAFFIC, ENOUGH PEDESTRIANS TO WARRANT IMPROVEMENT.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SOMETIMES WE DO IT.

IT'S LIKE TRAFFIC CALMING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS WE NEEDED TO HAVE CLEAR SIGHT DISTANCE.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ELIMINATING, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE RED CURVE ALONG THE FRONTAGE SO THAT WHEN CARS COME IN AND OUT OF THE PROJECT, THEY HAVE CLEAR VISIBILITY OF APPROACHING CARS.

UM, IN SOME CASES, UM, UH, DRIVEWAY ACCESS MAY MEET THE LAURENCE TO HAVE A SIGNAL, BUT IN THIS CASE, IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR TRIP GENERATION COMING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS DURING THE PEAK HOURS, THEY HAVE 36 VEHICLE, UM, MAKING A LEFT AND 15 MAKING A RIGHT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET WARRANTS OR A SIGNAL IN THIS CASE.

UM, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN WE DO YES, GO AHEAD.

I I'M, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AT WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE HAD TO INSTALL ANY SPECIFIC TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES WITH REGARD TO THESE HIGHER DENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENTS, UM, IN, IN, IN THIS CITY, IN THE PAST 10, 15 YEARS, AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT PAST PRECEDENT HAS KIND OF DICTATED WITH REGARD TO THIS, JUST SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP SUBSEQUENT, UM, WITH REGARD TO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY, UM, BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR, OR THIS COMMISSION WRIT LARGE, UM, OVER THE PAST DECADE, PLUS JUST TO KIND OF, KIND OF GAUGE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY, UM, BEFORE WE, WE APPROVE OR DENY THE PROJECT, I WOULD SAY JUST AS A GENERAL ANSWER THAT NORMALLY WE DON'T LOOK AT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES IN REGARDS TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT, UNLESS IT HAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BICYCLE OR SENIOR SENIORS WALKING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO JUST, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR IS I J I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE, IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY AWARE OF THAT THAT WE'VE DONE, OR FOR ANY, UH, ANY OF THESE INFILL PROJECTS, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY, I'M NOT SURE IF SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN LONGER COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, HAVING A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE IS GOING TO REQUIRE A STUDY TO BE DONE BECAUSE THEY MOST LIKELY MAY BE SENIORS WHO MOVE INTO THAT, THAT, THAT DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT'S, I'M SORRY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF POSSIBLE, IF, IF STAFF OR KITTEN CAN DO A REPORT ON TRAFFIC THERE, CAUSE I THINK THAT HAVING A, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT, BUT I THINK,

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AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S OUR JOB TO DO DUE DILIGENCE AND, AND CONDUCT THAT STUDY TO SEE IF A CROSSWALK OR, OR STREETLIGHT OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE TO ASSURE.

CAUSE WE HAVE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY A MAJOR SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS THE STREET ONE ON THE SIDE OF IT.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF STAFF, UM, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO, UH, TO DO A STUDY LIKE THAT.

DO WE HAVE, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY, JOANNE.

UM, WE CAN INITIATE A STUDY AND LOOK AT THE, UM, TRAFFIC ON ROLLING AND LOOK AT ANY ITEMS THAT COULD BE INSTALLED AS TRAFFIC CALMING.

IT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN TO THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO COUNCIL TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON ANY, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE MADE ON THAT STREET.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROCERA AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR JOANNE.

JOANNE, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, IS THIS THE LARGE, WOULD THIS BE THE LARGEST DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SIZE FOR THE KIND OF DIVISION OR SUBDIVISIONS OF, UH, PROPERTIES DEVELOPMENT? UM, WE DID.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, OH, THE ONE ON LARK ELLEN DAY SCHOOL IS IN, UM, THE CHURCH WHERE THEY KNOCKED DOWN.

THAT THAT WAS PRETTY BIG TOO, RIGHT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS THAT WAS, HONEY.

HEY, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF WE HAD ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SIZE, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS EQUAL OR GREATER OR LESS THAN THAT THAN THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THE GLENDORA, THE LAKES, THE COLONY AT THE LAKES ON GLENDORA AVENUE.

I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MORE RECENT, LARGER PROJECTS.

I THINK THAT WAS SIX, SEVEN ACRES, UM, WAS 450 UNITS ON THERE.

OH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I ALMOST SOMETIMES THINK THAT THERE'S ANYBODY EVEN LIVED THERE.

I NEVER SEE ANY TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THERE, BUT I, WHAT I WANTED TO ASK IS, IS THERE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT THIS BUILDER, AS SIMILAR TO THIS SIZE THAT MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT OR REVIEW FOR THOSE TYPE OF STUDIES IN THE CITY OR JUST IF HE, IF THE AREA OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, NOT TOO FAR AWAY, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

I THINK THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A BETTER ANSWER ON THAT.

GO AHEAD.

AND THEY FOLLOW ALL THOSE TRAILS OF THRESHOLDS DOWN.

HI, RUSSELL HILDEBRAND, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

I, I JUST, UH, TO, UH, ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE THINGS I'VE, I'VE HEARD TONIGHT.

I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE TRACK OF THE, OF THE PROCESS.

AND, AND I THINK PART OF WHAT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM WAS IN THE ETHICS FOLKS WERE TRYING TO POINT OUT IS SHIRTLESS TO YOUR POINT THAT THERE IS NO REAL PAST PRECEDENTS IN WHEN IT COMES TO THESE LAND USE.

BECAUSE EACH AS I SAY, REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, EACH, EACH PIECE OF PROPERTY IS UNIQUE AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEY MIGHT AT FIRST BLUSH LOOK VERY SIMILAR, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES THAT, UM, YOU CAN'T AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME.

THAT'S WHY WE DO ALL OF THE, ALL THE WORK THEY DO, UH, BEHIND THE SCENES TO ANALYZE THESE PROJECTS.

AND IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, THERE ARE AREA PLANS THAT YOUR COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS HAVE PLANS FOR POPULATION INCREASES AND TRANSPORTATION.

AND THEN THAT FLOWS INTO YOUR GENERAL PLAN AND IT FLOWS DOWN INTO YOUR CIRCULATION ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

AND SO THESE MAJOR PLANS ARE LOOKING AT THE CAPACITIES OF YOUR STREET SYSTEM AND HOW THEY EXPECT IT TO FLOW AND WHAT ROLE THEY CAN ALREADY ENTERTAIN.

AND THAT'S BUILT INTO THE CIRCULATION ELEMENT OF YOUR GENERAL PLAN.

ARE YOU GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF THRESHOLDS AND YOUR STATE PUBLIC RESOURCES CODE, WHICH IS THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT AND THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE, YOU HEAR IT AS THE SECRET GUIDELINES, THEY FURTHER REFINE THE THRESHOLDS AND THE LIMITS AND WHAT THE TRIGGERS ARE FOR IDENTIFYING IMPACTS OR NO IMPACTS.

AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY'VE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM IS IN THE, IN THE CITY STAFF HAVE FOLLOWED ALL OF THOSE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES

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SO IT'S NOT REALLY PROPER TO SUDDENLY SAY, WELL, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE DONE ALL OF THAT WORK, WE SHOULD, WE JUST WANT ANOTHER STUDY.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW IT SHOULD BE PROCEEDING.

SO, UM, IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANALYSIS, BUT YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, TRAINED ENGINEERS WHO HAVE LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT AND SAID, WE FIND THAT THERE WON'T BE IMPACTS AND THEY'RE THE TRAFFIC SPECIALISTS, AND THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, OF RELIANCE YOU NEED TO HAVE ON THEM, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT A TRAFFIC EMISSION.

THAT'S CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THESE SITUATIONS AS THEY DEVELOP, BECAUSE LIKE ALL OF YOUR PLANNING WORK, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE YOUR BEST GUESS AS TO YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE ABOUT HOW THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO INTERACT WITH YOUR COMMUNITY.

UH, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THOSE UP PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS THAT THEY, UH, ADDRESSED AT THE TIME, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A PROJECT IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT WITH SOME VERY SPECIFIC PARAMETERS AND, UH, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET FAR OFF TRACK OF, OF STAYING FOCUSED AND THANK YOU FOR SUMMARIZING ALL THAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL RESIDENTS AND ALSO FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS TO UNDERSTAND, SINCE WE HAVE, UH, UM, ENVIRONMENT AND IMPACT, UM, UM, ALL, ALL, ALL THE CONSULTANTS ARE HERE.

SO IF THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND IF WE HAVE ALL STAFF, IT'S ALSO HERE ON ZOOM MEETINGS, SO THAT ALL THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN ALSO HEAR ABOUT TRAFFIC.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT IT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE AZUSA STREET IN AZUSA.

IF YOU DRIVE ON AND YOU LIVE FOR A LONG TIME, IT IS A VERY BUSY STREET AND THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

AND NOT ONLY THAT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT, THERE'S TWO, UH, TWO LANE, ONE LANE IS GOING ONE DIRECTION, WHICH IS EAST, ONE LANE IS GOING WEST.

YOU CAN'T EVEN GO WEST OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO.

SO GIVEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATIONS AND ALSO AS A RESIDENT, THAT'S THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND THAT LAND IS UNIQUE IN A SENSE THAT IT WAS USEFUL SCHOOL FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THAT WAS A DROP-OFF POINT, MEANING THAT THERE'S NO OTHER AREA, I BELIEVE THAT THE STUDENTS WOULD DROP OFF, BUT THEN AGAIN, IT HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR A LONG TIME.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT IS, BUT IT'S, IT'S CLOSED.

IT LOOKS LIKE A GHOST TOWN RIGHT NOW.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE CHANGING THE AREA, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, OKAY, MAYBE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND TOO, AS A COMMISSIONER AND ALSO THE RESIDENT TO SEE THAT, HEY, WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS OPEN, WAS THERE MORE TRAFFIC, OR IT WILL BE LESS TRAFFIC THAT WE DEVELOPED THIS AREA.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT IN THE RESIDENTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LIVE THERE A LONG TIME AND WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS OPEN, MAYBE YOU MIGHT KNOW, BUT IF YOU JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT THAT HOUSE A YEAR AGO, YOU MAY NOT KNOW.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE CONSULTANTS HERE IN ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, AND THEN LATER ON, WE CAN ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS.

SO WE UNDERSTAND ALL THE QUESTIONS SO WE CAN MAKE A GOOD, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO OUR CITY COUNCILS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ACTUALLY, UM, I APOLOGIZE.

I WASN'T INTENDING TO CRITICIZE.

OH, NO, NO.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO, NO, NO, NO.

YOU ARE HELPING YOU ARE, IT IS A SUMMARIES.

AND WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THE ENVIRONMENT IMPACT REPORT, THEY'VE BEEN DOING A STUDY FOR A LONG TIME AND THIS MAY BE, WE MIGHT HEAR ABOUT IT, BUT WE ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THIS PUBLIC HEARING MEETING AND HAVE A DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT.

SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR ASKING ALL THE QUESTIONS.

AND WE, ONE MORE QUESTION, UM, SORRY.

UM, OKAY, SORRY.

UM, IN REGARDS TO, YEAH, WE MAY BE ASKING YOU FOR QUESTIONS AND I THINK IT'S JUST A QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT MORE, NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE QUESTIONS TO MAKE OUR DECISION, BUT UNDERSTANDING THE PROJECT TO A FULLER SCALE.

BUT MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, UNDER STATE LAW ON OR UNDER LAW.

AND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS ASKING THIS IS THAT INSTEAD OF PRINTING A BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS, THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BILL, IN THE PLANNING AND BUILDING PROCESS, ISN'T IT? THE, ISN'T IT THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO TRY TO, UH, TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, TO INVEST, INVEST FUNDING, IF, IF A CROSSWALK IS THE UNIT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR PROJECT?

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YES, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS LET'S, UM, OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T HEAR ANY MORE QUESTIONS, SO LET'S OPEN UP.

OH, ACTUALLY THE, UM, DEVELOPER.

SO I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A TESTIMONY FROM THE APPLICANT AND THEN THOSE IN FAVOR AND THEN THOSE GOOD EVENING.

YOU HEAR ME OKAY.

UH, HONORABLE CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS AND MEMBERS OF STAFF AND THE PUBLIC.

MY NAME IS GLENN CROSBY, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE LEWIS COMPANIES.

AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU HERE TONIGHT.

UH, TWO OF THE FIRST PROJECTS I WORKED ON, UH, COMING OUT OF, UH, CAL POLY ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, WE'RE SUNSET PALMS, AND SUNRISE POEMS RIGHT HERE IN, UH, WEST COVINA.

UH, I JUMPED AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND WORK FOR THE LEWIS FAMILY SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY NICE TO BE BACK HERE IN WEST COVINA AS WELL.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE NEIGHBORS WHO SHARED, UH, FEEDBACK AND CONCERNS, UH, WITH US EITHER AT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, UH, INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS WE HAD ON THE SITE, UH, OR THROUGH PHONE AND EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS.

IT'S BEEN A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, GIVEN THE COVID CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT WE HAVE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO US.

I UNDERSTAND CERTAINLY THE DISAPPOINTMENT FROM NEIGHBORS THAT THEY MAY HAVE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

IT'S AN INFILL SITE.

THEY'VE BEEN USED TO CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE OBJECTIVITY AND, UH, THE FAIRNESS, UH, THAT MANY OF THE SURROUNDING OWNERS HAVE DEMONSTRATED IN SHARING THEIR CONCERNS WITH US, THE FEEDBACK, UH, WAS ALSO INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, SHARING IN SHAPING THE ELEMENTS OF OUR PROJECT.

AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT THE PROJECT DESIGN BEFORE YOU TONIGHT INCORPORATES A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE SURROUNDING OWNERS OF THE CUL-DE-SAC, UH, ON, PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTH SIDE DRAINAGE, WHICH WE TOUCHED ON EARLIER, WINDOWS PARKING, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY AND THE WALL CONFIGURATION, ALL OF THOSE REFLECT INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, FROM NEIGHBORS.

YOU CAN GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE, JOANNE.

UM, OH, GREAT.

TO EXPRESS SOME CONCERN WITH, UH, SOLAR EXPOSURE DUE TO, UM, SOLAR PANELS THEY HAVE ON THEIR HOME.

OH, ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.

AND HALF OF THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY, AS YOU'LL SEE, IS ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL.

OUR FOCUS FROM THE BEGINNING WAS REALLY TO ACHIEVE A MORE PURPOSEFUL TRANSITION, SOMETHING THAT WAS THOUGHTFUL BETWEEN WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND TRANSITIONING ULTIMATELY TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.

AND WE BELIEVE WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT BY, UH, PLANTING THE, UH, HIGHER DENSITY, UM, HOMES, THE ATTACHED HOMES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN TRANSFERRED TO THE DETACHED CLUSTER STYLE HOMES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROJECT DEFINITELY PROVIDES A MORE, UH, REASONABLE GRADATION OF INTENSITY OF USE AS YOU MOVE ACROSS THE SITE FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE UP HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS THE SURROUNDINGS BUFFER, UH, THAT EXTENDS WELL ABOVE THE PERIMETER WALL, UH, ON BOTH THE NORTH AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

THIS IS BASED ON NEIGHBOR FEEDBACK.

THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THE WALL MAY NOT SUFFICIENT TO PRESERVE PRIVACY BETWEEN THE ADJACENTS JASON USES.

SO WE PROPOSED A, AN EVERGREEN, UH, SEVEN FOOT WIDE, SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT WIDE BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPERTY AND THE, AND THE WALL THERE, UH, WITH THE, UH, EXPECTATION THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WILL ULTIMATELY MAINTAIN THAT FOR UNIFORMITY AND KEEP THAT AT A HEIGHT THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL, UH, PRIVACY OVER THE WALL, UH, UP TO ABOUT 10 FEET.

UH, THERE WERE SOME, UH, OWNERS ON THE NORTH SIDE

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UH, SO THAT WILL ALSO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE 10 FOOT, UH, WE MET ON SITE WITH THEM APPEARS TO BE, UH, CONDUCIVE TO AVOIDING ANY TYPE OF, UH, BLOCKING OF THOSE FACILITIES ON THE ROOF.

OR THE OTHER THING WAS, UH, DRAINAGE.

SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED, UH, FROM OWNERS WAS THAT THE DRAINAGE THERE UP ON THE NORTH END, IT COMES OUT OF THE COMMERCIAL THERE'S OFFSITE DRAINAGE COMES OUT OF THE COMMERCIAL SITE, AND THEN IT WOULD CUT ACROSS OVER TO, UH, EILEEN.

IT WAS BLOCKED IN A FEW, UH, LOCATIONS.

IT ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE IT AGAIN WAS OBSTRUCTED AND WAS CREATING SOME FLOODING CONDITIONS.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OUR PLAN IS INTERCEPTED AT OFFSITE DRAINAGE AT THE EILEEN CUL-DE-SAC, AND WE'RE BRINGING IT DOWN, SEPARATING IT FROM THE PROJECTS STORM DRAIN, AND, UH, BRINGING THAT DOWN THROUGH THE PROJECT AND, UH, SLOWING THAT DOWN SO THAT IT'S METERED OUT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

AND THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN FOR, UH, THE PROJECT STRANGE.

WE HAVE INFILTRATION BASINS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE, UH, THE DRIVE ON THE WEST SIDE, UH, UNDERNEATH THE PARKING STALLS.

AND THOSE WILL ALLOW, UH, THE WATER TO BE SLOWED, UH, INFILTRATED AND THEN METERED OUT.

SO THAT IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW IN A, IN A STORM EVENT, THE WATER FROM THE COMMERCIAL SIDE ON THE NORTH AND ALL OF THE PROJECT SITE, WHICH IS PROBABLY ABOUT 50% COVERED BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BUILDING AND ASPHALT, IT JUST SHEEP FLOWS RIGHT OUT ON TO ROLAND.

SO BY DOING THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET HER OUT THAT THOSE FLOWS OVER A 48 HOUR PERIOD, WELL, OUTSIDE THE STORM EVENT THAT WILL, UH, HELP SOME OF WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWN ON ROLAND AVENUE.

WE CAN'T OBVIOUSLY CHANGE THE EXISTING, UH, CONDITION.

I KNOW ROLAND HAS SOME CHALLENGES IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THAT ISSUE.

UH, ONE OF THE MOST, UH, OR, SORRY, I SHOULD SAY THE FIRST CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD, UH, IN OUR MEETINGS AND EVEN BEFORE AM MEETING WITH ANY OF THE OWNERS WAS ABOUT, UH, APARTMENTS UP THERE.

AND I DID WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THESE ARE FOR SALE HOMES.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT AN APARTMENT PROJECT.

UM, THAT CONCERN WAS CLOSELY FOLLOWED BY THE PRESERVATION OF THE CUL-DE-SACS LIVING ON A CUL-DE-SAC ON MY, MYSELF, UH, WITH CHILDREN.

I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU GET USED TO THAT.

IT'S, IT'S A COMFORTABLE THING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR KIDS ARE DOWN THERE KIND OF IN THAT POCKET, OUT OF THE, THE TYPICAL TRAFFIC FLOW.

SO WE MADE THE DECISION FAIRLY, VERY EARLY ON TO KEEP THE CUL-DE-SAC OUT OF OUR PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT PUNCHING IT THROUGH.

UH, AND IN FACT, WE TOOK IT ANOTHER STEP AFTER MEETING WITH, UH, THE SURROUNDING OWNERS THERE.

UH, THE CONCERN WAS, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF PEOPLE START PARKING UP HERE FOR OUR PROJECT, AND THEN JUST USING THAT AS AN ACCESS POINT TO GET TO THE HOMES UP THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS SKIP IT THE SAME TIME I DID.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE UP IN THAT CUL-DE-SAC, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS WE HAVE, UH, INCORPORATED A SOLID BLOCK WALL AROUND THE ENTIRE OLD OF THE CUL-DE-SAC.

AND THERE WERE NO PENETRATIONS THROUGH THAT WALL BY NO PENETRATION.

I MEAN, NO PEDESTRIAN, UH, IOS OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO PARK AND THEN JUST ACCESS A UNIT OR HAVE ONE OF THEIR FRIENDS COME OVER AND ACCESS THE UNIT.

THE ONLY, UH, ACCESS THROUGH THERE IS AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE, UH, ACCESS THERE AT THE END OF THE BULB IN THAT COL-DE-SAC.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS, THAT WAS GOOD, GOOD FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE OWNERS.

UH, WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF NOT HAVING THAT CONTINUOUS BLOCK WALL.

THE OTHER THING WE HEARD IN THAT SPECIFIC AREAS, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT JUST PARKED DOWN THERE AND PROBABLY ARE, ARE NOT HELPING THINGS.

THEY HANG OUT AT NIGHT.

UH, IT'S ALSO BEEN KIND OF A TRANSITION POINT.

UH, SO ONE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT AT THE EVA POINT THERE IS TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH SOME LIGHTING ON ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BROADCAST OUT INTO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING THERE'S, THERE'S A VOID THERE.

THERE'S NOT A STREETLIGHT WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THAT PARTICULAR BULB AND A NUMBER OF THE OWNERS EXPRESS CONCERN TO US.

IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WE COULD DO JUST TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE AND HANGING OUT, UH, IN THE EVENING.

UH, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WITH THEM AS WELL.

IN ADDITION, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT, ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS RAISED WITH THERE'S A VERY SHORT WALL THERE ON THE EXISTING, UH, COMMERCIAL SIDE, PEOPLE HOP THAT ALL THE TIME, EVEN IT'S ONLY PROBABLY FOUR FEET IN SEVERAL SECTIONS.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU SAW SOME OF THE REPORTS WITH THE ARRESTS AND OTHER PROBLEM ACTIVITY ON THE SITE, UH, OVER THE YEARS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THAT WALL

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AND ITS ENTIRETY AND REPLACE THAT WITH A TALLER WALL THAT, UH, PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM NOT EVERYONE, BUT PREVENTS THE TROUBLEMAKERS FROM CROSSING THROUGH THAT SECTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE, UH, CENTRAL, UH, PRIVATE PARK PLAN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE INCORPORATED A TOT LOT OPEN TURF AREA AND A COVERED CHANGE STRUCTURE.

THE OTHER THING WE'VE DONE IS IN INCLUDED BIKE RACKS, UH, AT THE PARK LOCATION TO ACCOMMODATE VISITING GUESTS.

UH, YOU HEARD SOME COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT THE, UH, TRANSIT PRIORITY AREA, AND THIS WILL ALLOW, YOU KNOW, VISITORS COME IN, THEY HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN PARK THEIR BIKE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE A CAR, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND VISIT THEIR GUESTS, NOT GOING TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THE, UH, ARCHITECTURE.

UH, JOANNE DID A VERY COMPREHENSIVE JOB, UH, IN COVERING THAT IN TERMS OF THE STREET SCENES FROM ROLAND ON BOTH THE, UH, WEST SIDE DRIVE FACING NORTH AND THE DRIVE HEADER UP ON THE EAST SIDE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DO DO YOU WANT TO POINT OUT IS WE TOOK A LOT OF CARE IN SELECTING THESE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.

SO WE DIDN'T JUST PULL THESE OFF THE SHELF.

UH, THE FARMHOUSE COTTAGE IN SPANISH COLONIAL, UH, THEY EXHIBIT SOME OF THE SAME, UH, FEATURES THAT ARE IN SOME OF THE SURROUNDING HOMES.

IT'S A VERY ECLECTIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S A LOT OF STYLES THAT ARE INCORPORATED ADJACENT.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A SIMILAR BLEND, BUT ALSO PULLING SOME OF THOSE SAME ELEMENTS, THOSE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, UH, THAT WE SEE IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THESE ARE THE, THE TOWNHOMES, THE ATTACHED PRODUCT.

UH, THE BUILDING REFLECTS A LOT OF ARCHITECTURAL, UH, PROJECTIONS AND ARTICULATION ALONG THE ENTIRE A VERTICAL PLANE, UH, COVERED PORCHES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, COVERED DECKS RAILING, UH, WE HAVE VARYING ROOF ELEMENTS, UH, RIDGES AND, UH, EAVE HEIGHTS, AND THEN THE COLOR GRADATIONS.

AND THE INTENT OF THAT OBVIOUSLY IS TO GET, GET RID OF THAT MASSING.

THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE JUST ONE GIANT, YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN ALBERTSONS OR SOMETHING.

WE WANT THIS TO HAVE SOME NICE ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY, REALLY ENHANCED THE INDIVIDUAL NATURE, EVEN WITH THE COLOR SCHEMES THAT PULL OUT AND, AND ENHANCE THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS, UH, WITHIN THE BUILDING.

THIS ILLUSTRATION IS JUST TO, UH, DEMONSTRATE, YOU KNOW, THE ACCESS INTO EACH OF THE TYPES OF UNITS ON THE LEFT IS THE CLUSTER STYLE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE SALES THAT ALLOW ACCESS IN THERE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN AND THEN THE VEHICULAR ACCESS INTO THE AUTO COURT AREA.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO INCORPORATE PLAN MATERIAL WHERE WE CAN, EVEN, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE, UH, PARKING STALLS OUT, UH, OUT ON THE FACE OF THOSE UNITS, UH, WHERE WE HAVE THE DIAMOND PLANTERS, UH, INTERSPERSED WITHIN THE PARKING THERE, AND THEN ALSO A STRONG VERTICAL ELEMENT WITH ITALIAN CYPRESS AT THE END, UH, TO ALLOW THAT VERTICAL ELEMENT TO EXTEND, UH, UP INTO THE SECOND STORY FOR THOSE UNITS, WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAME UP WHEN WE WERE MEETING, UH, WITH A NUMBER OF THE OWNERS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE EXACTLY WHAT JOANNE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE'VE PURPOSELY ELEVATED THOSE WINDOWS ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORING HOMES AND THE, THE WINDOWS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE, THAT'S THE NORMAL LENGTH OF THE WINDOW ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

THOSE ARE THE SHORTENED WINDOWS, SO THAT YOU'RE BASICALLY RESTRICTED TO LOOKING STRAIGHT OUT FROM YOUR HOME AND NOT LOOKING DOWN INTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THERE.

AND THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS CLEARLY BASED ON, UH, SITE-SPECIFIC FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, FROM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS.

SO IN SUMMARY, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE TENTATIVE TRACK MAP, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN AND DESIGN GUIDELINES.

WE REALLY BELIEVE THIS WE'VE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE THIS A PURPOSEFUL TRANSITION TO THE SURROUNDING HOMES.

YOU KNOW, IT REALLY WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES UP NEXT TO THE COMMERCIAL ON THE EAST SIDE.

SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN INFILL LOCATION, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN PLANNING YOU TRIED TO DO, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE STARTING WITH A BLANK CANVAS ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, I'VE MENTIONED HAVE BEEN SELECTED TO COMPLIMENT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE SITE DESIGN PROVIDES AMPLE

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GUEST PARKING, AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DISCOURAGE OVERFLOW INTO THE NEIGHBORING AREAS.

THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN THAT CAME UP IN OUR SITE MEETINGS WAS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PARKING UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOW WE COULD MAKE SURE AND AVOID THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS INCORPORATE INTO THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS, THE CCNRS FOR THIS COMMUNITY, THE REQUIREMENT AT, UH, THE RESIDENTS NEED TO USE THEIR GARAGE FOR PARKING.

SO THEY CAN'T JUST HAVE A BUNCH OF STORAGE IN THERE AND HAVE THEIR CARS, YOU KNOW, DUMPED OUT ON THE STREET, UH, CREATING PROBLEMS, BOTH FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND FOR THIS ROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, GETTING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN PROVIDES THE SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO ENHANCE PRIVACY.

WE BELIEVE WE'VE INCORPORATED SOME DESIGN SOLUTIONS FOR THE OFFSITE DRAINAGE TO BE INTERCEPTED THROUGH THE INTERNAL SYSTEM AND THEN PRESERVATION, UH, OF THE EILEEN STREET CALLED THE SAC, UH, ON THE NORTH END.

ONE THING I DID QUICKLY WANT TO TOUCH ON, UH, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP A MOMENTS AGO WAS WITH RESPECT TO, TO ROLAND.

ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T DO A COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC STUDY ON ROLAND AVENUE, WE DID HAVE OUR CONSULTANTS, UH, EVALUATE, UH, WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON ROLLING AND DID LOOK AT A COUPLE ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS, UH, AS JANET POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS A MID-BLOCK CROSSING WITH A FLASHING AND, AND FULL DESIGNED, BUT THOSE ARE PROBLEMATIC, UH, UH, AS A COUNSEL POINTED OUT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE EXPERTS IN PLACES TO EVALUATE THOSE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PUTTING A CROSSWALK JUST BECAUSE WE, UH, HEAR SOME FEEDBACK FROM, FROM OWNERS AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD, UH, SOLUTION TO PUT ACROSS OFF RIGHT HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE EXPERTS WEIGH IN AND LOOK AT THAT.

AND THERE WERE PROBLEMS INTRODUCING A MID-BLOCK CROSSING JUST BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REALLY EXPECTED, UH, IN MOST CASES.

SO NO MATTER WHAT TYPE OF FLASHING AND OTHER MARKINGS YOU DO ON, ON THE STREET, IF PEOPLE ARE USED TO THAT, NOT, NOT BEING THERE AND IT'S INTRODUCED, MID-BLOCK, IT'S SOMETIMES CREATES SOME CHALLENGES.

UM, BUT WE DID LOOK AT A ROLE IN, AND THAT'S PART OF THE SOLUTION WE CAME UP WITH WITH THE RED CURB ALONG THE FRONTAGE, THAT WAS PURELY BASED ON LINE OF SIGHT CONCERNS, UH, FOR THE, UH, VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE, UH, EXITING THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES BY WAY OF SOME STRIPING, UH, UH, INFLUENCE OUT THERE ON ROLAND.

UM, SO AGAIN, ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T DO A COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC STUDY AT THE PROJECT, WASN'T WARRANTED, UH, TO DO THAT, UH, AS IT WAS ANALYZED, IT WAS SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT IN THE LARGELY, UH, IN RESPONSE TO OUR MEETINGS WITH THE OWNERS AND JUST THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY PROVIDED, UH, FROM HISTORICAL, UH, INCIDENTS AND THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OUT THERE ON BOATS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND, UH, THANK YOU.

OH, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THOSE IN FAVOR OR THOSE AGAINST THE, DO YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO, UH, THE ZOOM CALLS FIRST OR, UH, THE PEOPLE HERE TODAY? IT'S DIFFICULT.

SET THAT FIRST.

GENERATED BY THE PROJECT ON OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS.

SO LET'S GET STARTED REMIND KNOWLEDGE.

I, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS ONE PERSON IN FAVOR, AND THEN I HAD ASKED, UM, MULTIPLE PEOP CALLERS, UM, IF THEY WERE, UH, IN FAVOR OR AGAINST ONLY A FEW ANSWERED.

SO, UH, STARTING OFF WITH, IN, UH, IN FAVOR, I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, JONATHAN BLACKMORE TO UNMUTE THEMSELVES, UH, THANK YOU, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION, UH, CHAIR AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JONATHAN BLACKMORE.

I'M THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF EDUCATIONAL SERVICES FOR COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND I'D LIKE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE DO THINK THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR DISTRICT AND OUR SCHOOLS.

UM, I'D LIKE TO READ A PREPARED STATEMENT, UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

FINALLY, ON THIS PROJECT RECEIVED BY COVINA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2020, THE DISTRICT DID NOT FILE A FORMAL RESPONSE DURING THE PERIOD OF NOVEMBER 19 THROUGH DECEMBER 21, 2020.

THE REASON FOR NO FORMAL RESPONSE WAS BECAUSE THE IMPACT ON THE DISTRICT AND ITS STUDENTS WILL BE MITIGATED.

MITIGATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY FUNDS DERIVED FROM THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

STUDENTS GENERATED FROM THE PROJECT INCREASED ENROLLMENT WILL ATTEND COVINA VALLEY SCHOOLS AND DEVELOPER FEES PAYABLE TO THE DISTRICT WILL BE LEVY DURING CONSTRUCTION TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF STUDENTS

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THE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICTS GENERATED AS A RESULT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT HAVE BEEN MET.

SO AGAIN, THAT WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT I HAVE IN FAVOR.

SO, UH, I'M GOING TO ASSUME EVERYONE ELSE IS OPPOSED GOING DOWN THE LIST, UH, ANNABEL, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF? UM, I'M SORRY, RENEE.

I THINK I MAY HAVE TWO PEOPLE.

UM, LET ME ASK FIRST, UH, THOMAS, CHRIS SOAR, ARE YOU AGAIN? SO I'LL POST TO THE PRO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WHEN HE'S FINISHED AND THEN I HAVE AMELIA, UM, ARE YOU AGAINST A POST AS PROJECT? THE POST.

AND THEN WE'LL WAIT, GO AHEAD.

ONCE AGAIN, ANNABEL, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF? UH, HI, I'M UM, I'M HERE LISTENING WITH MY DAD.

WE LIVED NEARBY, I GUESS WE WERE JUST WE'RE OPPOSED.

AND WE'RE JUST A LITTLE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, AND EVEN DURING THE REGULAR SCHOOL YEAR, WHEN I WOULD TAKE THEM, IT GOT PRETTY PACKED.

SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS MORE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE USING, UM, OUR STREET AS LIKE A SHORTCUT TO GET TO THE SCHOOL, OR, UM, ALSO I JUST MOSTLY TRAFFIC AND MAYBE THE AMOUNT OF UNITS.

UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT CONCLUDES HER, UM, YOUR CONCERNS, UH, NEXT UP, UH, CARLOS GUAVA, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF? HEY, GOOD.

ANY KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAME THING? HI, HOW YOU DOING? YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

WE'RE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SIMILAR.

UM, WE'RE OVER HERE OFF OF THE, UH, TO THE WEST OFF OF, I LEAN ECHO MAN AND LIKE HOME REST BEHIND, UH, TO THE WEST.

AND, UH, WE WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN LUCKY THE PAST FIVE YEARS THAT WE'VE LIVED HERE BEING THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, A STREET THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A J SHAPE AND LAND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE COME THROUGH HERE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST KIND OF CONCERNED OF THE TRAFFIC COMING IN, AS FAR AS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, UH, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, USING THIS AS A, UH, AS A THROAT, YOU KNOW, UH, AN OPEN WAY TO GET AWAY FROM THE ZOOS OF TRAFFIC, BUT IT, HAS THERE BEEN ANY, ANY, UH, OTHER CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS BEEN ASKED ABOUT THAT STREET AS FAR AS HOME, REST UP A PIONEER THERE? REPEAT THAT QUESTION.

HAVE YOU HAD, HAVE YOU GUYS HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC ON HOME REST IN BETWEEN EILEEN AND PIONEER? SO PUBLIC COMMENT IS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE A STATEMENT, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE DIALOGUE IN RETURN.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, YEAH, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.

UM, WE, WE HAVE A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD HERE AND WE'RE JUST, UM, WELL WE HAVE SMALL CHILDREN AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHILDREN ON THE STREET AS WELL.

PUTTING, UH, MOST OF OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS HAVE KIDS THAT RANGE FROM TWO TO 14, YOU KNOW, AND THEY, THEY ENJOY PLAYING IN THE STREET HERE, BUT WE'RE JUST CONCERNED WITH THE TRAFFIC.

THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, CREATED BY THIS, UH, PROJECT.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH THE REASON WHY ARE GUESTS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY STATEMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AGAIN? CARLA SANCHEZ, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF? WELL, WE'LL COME BACK TO HER.

NEXT PERSON ON CUE WOULD BE CARLA SANCHEZ.

SO CARLA SANCHEZ, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF

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UH, LET'S DO, UM, EDDIE DE CASAS.

UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF? HI THERE.

YEAH, I'M JUST, MY COMMENT IS JUST, UH, PRETTY SIMPLE.

I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND TOO MANY UNITS AND YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL ON THE FUTURE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE WHAT I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE ACS, YOU KNOW, WHEN TIME COMES UP, EH, YEAH, THEY, THEY SAID A LOT OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE IN MY MIND.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENT.

SO FAR TRAFFIC, TOO MANY UNITS, NOT ENOUGH, UH, GREEN AREA AND THIS SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON HIS FUTURE.

I HAVE HERE ON CUE, UH, JOSE RODRIGUEZ, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF READY WHEN YOU ARE AGAIN? JOSE RODRIGUEZ, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF? HEY, LET'S COME BACK TO JOSE RODRIGUEZ.

UH, NEXT WOULD BE, UH, TINA, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF? HELLO.

UM, SO MY FIRST CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ATTACHED DOCUMENTS, THE COMMISSIONER, THE AGENDA, IT STATES THE RED ZONE WAS CREATED IN FRONT OF THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE, WHICH MEANS IF YOU'RE GOING TO RED ZONE IN FRONT OF THE SITE, THE ADJACENT HOMES ON ROLLING ON BOTH SIDES, PARKING WILL BE PUT THERE.

UM, REGARDLESS OF WE CLAIM THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PARKING, WE'LL START BUILDING UP ON THAT STREET ON ROLAND.

AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD IN THE PAST, SOMEONE HAS PASSED AWAY BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN JERRY WALTON ON ROLAND.

SO DO YOU WALK IN ALREADY ON THAT ROLE IN STREET, THIS PROPERTY ONE INCREASE THE JAYWALKING TRYING WHEN YOU HAVE GUESTS COMING, PARKING ON, ROLLING AND GOING ACROSS MY OTHER ISSUE WITH THE TRAFFIC IN THE ATTACHED DOCUMENTS.

IT ALSO STATES THAT THE MEDIUM WILL BE, UM, EDITED SO THAT THE EXIT AND ENTRANCE WILL BE REFLECTIVE OF THE SITE.

AGAIN, STATED ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS TALKED ABOUT CURRENTLY, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO EXIT THEIR BROTHERS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE FOOD FOR LESS, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A RIGHT ENTITY ABOUT IT, THAT IS A VERY HECTIC INTERSECTION.

AND THEN NOW YOU'RE BUILDING WITHIN 10 FEET OF THAT INTERSECTION CHANGE, RIGHT? THEY'RE MORE IN AND OUT.

UM, SO THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED REALLY.

THEY SAID THE TRAFFIC STUDY WASN'T DONE THAT MUCH.

UM, CLEARLY THAT WASN'T A DRUG.

SO MY SOLUTION YOU WOULD SAY IS, OKAY, WELL, THEY CAN'T MAKE A LEFT OUT OF THE SITE.

WELL, AGAIN, IF THEY DON'T MAKE A LEFT OFF OF THE SITE AND THEY WANT TO GO TO ROLAND, THEY WOULD CUT THROUGH EITHER NORTH LAKE AVENUE OR HOMELESS.

SO INCREASING THE TRAFFIC WITHIN THE COLDEST ACTS THAT ALREADY EXISTS.

ANOTHER ISSUE WITH THE TRAFFIC IS THAT IT CLAIMED IN THE STUDY THAT THERE'S ONLY 106 PEOPLE, WHICH WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS OPENED, WE'VE LIVED HERE SINCE THE SCHOOL WAS OPEN AND CLOSED.

IT NEVER GOT THAT MANY.

IT WAS A CONTINUATION SCHOOL.

IT WAS NEVER A FULL SCHOOL.

SO IT WAS ALWAYS THE LITTLE KNIT, A LITTLE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS BEFORE THE SCHOOL WAS CLOSED, MANY PEOPLE USE THAT AS A RECREATIONAL SITE, THEY WALK THEIR DOGS AND I KNOW THERE'S A PARKING PUT IN PLACE, BUT THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH.

IT'S NOT SHOWING WHAT PEOPLE WERE DOING IN THAT AREA BEFORE.

ALSO THE NEGATIVE NOISE POLLUTION WASN'T ADDRESSED.

THIS IS A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE MORE ADDRESSED.

AND THE GOAL HERE, IT SEEMS THAT WE WANT MIXED HOUSING TO ADDRESS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IN CALIFORNIA.

BUT THESE HOMES AREN'T GOING TO DO THAT.

YOU STATED THAT ONLY 15 HOMES WOULD GET THE DEDUCTION OR THE CREDIT.

SO AGAIN, THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE PRICED REALLY HIGH.

SO WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS WE HAVE.

SO WHY BUILT SO MANY HOMES HERE? WHY NOT JUST, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BUILD THIS SITE, WHY DON'T WE FOCUS ON ONLY BUILDING DETACHED HOMES? WE SEE THE PLAN.

THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL.

WHY DON'T WE JUST FOCUS ON THAT INSTEAD OF DOING MULTI TOWNHOUSE? UM, THOSE ARE THE BIG

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ISSUES.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD KIND OF ADDRESS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WERE USING THE SITE AS, UM, I THINK CARLOS SAID HE HAS YOUNG KIDS, PEOPLE WERE GOING THERE.

IT WAS A NICE YARD TO JUST THROW A BALL, WALK YOUR DOG.

AND ALSO YOU CAN JUST HOP THE FENCE CURRENTLY.

SO MANY PEOPLE WERE STILL DOING THAT EVEN WITH SCHOOL POSTS.

I THINK THOSE ISSUES WERE NOT ADDRESSED.

AND SPECIFICALLY THE TRAFFIC IS A HUGE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON.

AND, UM, I REALLY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE THE ZONING.

I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON EITHER BUILDING THE HOMES OR JUST LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS AND HE'S STANDING A BEAUTIFUL PARK.

UH, SO WE HAVE THREE MORE, THREE MORE CALLERS.

UH, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE WILLIAM SANCHEZ AT THIS TIME.

I'LL ASK YOU TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

WELL, MOST OF OUR CONCERNS ARE THE SAME, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, IT'S TRAFFIC WITH THE ARCLIGHT COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE WALKING, WALKING, THEIR DOGS, THE KIDS AND EVERYTHING.

AND ALSO IF ALL OF THESE TOWN HOMES, THE THREE-LEVEL ONES THAT ARE BACK OVER HERE NEAR THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHICH IS WHERE I AM.

WE HAVE A POOL, WE HAVE KIDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE TWO OR THREE STORIES ON TOP OF OUR HOUSE, OUR PRIVACY GOES AWAY.

AND THEN EVEN THAT BLOCK WALL WITH, I BELIEVE IT WAS A SEVEN FEET DISTANCING, IT'S STILL, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO QUIET DOWN IF THERE ARE ANY, YOU KNOW, AC MOTORS OR AC UNITS BACK THERE.

AND IT'S JUST PRIVACY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

AND TRAFFIC DEFINITELY ON RURAL NEW WILL BE CRAZY.

AND WE WILL BE USED AS ESCAPE, STREET, ESCAPE, UM, WAYS TO GET OUT TO EVEN JUST TO GO TO WEDNESDAY.

AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE LITTLE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE BEEN NOT REALLY EXPLAINED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WILL BE HARD FOR US TO JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN GIVE UP BECAUSE THIS NEW PROJECT IS COMING IN AND, YOU KNOW, I MYSELF HAVE TWO KIDS AND IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE BAD FOR ME AND MY KIDS THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BE IN THE FRONT YARD OR, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH MORE CARS BEING IN THIS WHOLE AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC GROUND AS WELL.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I POST THANK YOU, WILLIAM.

CAN YOU PLEASE MUTE YOUR OTHER EQUIPMENT, PLEASE? HELLO.

ALSO, SORRY.

AND MOST OF THIS, OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND IF THOSE TOWNHOMES AND THE MULTI FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT THERE WILL TAKE AWAY FROM OUR SMALL AND CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY.

THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU, WILLIAM.

I'M GOING TO LET'S SEE, ANDREW.

UM, ANDREW, CAN YOU HEAR US? OH, NO, NO, ANDREW, UH, THIS NEXT CALLER DOESN'T HAVE A NAME.

IT JUST SAYS IPHONE.

SO I SHOULD BE GREAT.

SHOULD I ALWAYS SEE FOR THE COLOR CALLING FOR IPHONE? CAN YOU HEAR US? YOU CAN MUTE.

HELLO?

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HI.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

MY MAIN CONCERN IS, UM, I LIVE ON THE ISLAND CALLED THE SAC AND, UH, IN REGARDS TO IT BEING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE COMMUNITY, UM, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF WE CAN KEEP EVERYTHING AS BEING A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY, UM, ALL THE HOMES AROUND THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILIES AND IT'S A REALLY CLOSE COMMUNITY.

EVERYONE LOOKS OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER.

AND I FEEL WITH THIS PROJECT OF ADDING 163 UNITS, THAT'S JUST THROWING OFF THE COMPLETE, UM, DYNAMICS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I, THE, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, HOMES DREW ME TO BE BUILT THERE, BUT IF WE CAN NEGOTIATE AND COME UP WITH A GOOD NUMBER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND TO THINK OF EVERYONE'S SAFETY AS WELL, BECAUSE OF COURSE, LIKE EVERYONE KEEPS BRINGING IT UP, IS THE ISSUE WITH THE, THE TRAFFIC.

AND AS FAR AS TRAFFIC ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, I HAVE THREE CHILDREN THAT GO TO THE SCHOOLS AT COVINA VALLEY, ONE AT, UH, ROLAND, ONE AT TRAYWICK.

AND WHEN THAT COULD BE IN A HIGH SCHOOL, AS IT IS THAT PARKED, I MEAN, THE, THE TRAFFIC AROUND THE SCHOOL HOURS IS INSANE.

I MEAN, YOU LITERALLY TAKES ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, TO GET ONE WAY TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONGESTION.

SO I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE ADDITIONAL, IT, IT'S JUST GOING TO INCREASE THAT VOLUME EVEN HIGHER.

AND, UH, I'M JUST CONCERNED FOR THE KIDS THAT NEED TO WALK TO SCHOOL AND WALK HOME AS WELL.

UM, I DO SEE A LOT OF CARS ALWAYS SPEEDING UP AND DOWN WEDNESDAY AND ROLLING, AND THEN ALL THE AVENUES.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO PUT OUR CHILDREN FIRST FOR THEIR SAFETY.

UM, AND I THINK WITH ALL THESE HOMES BEING BUILT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT PUTTING OUR KIDS FIRST IF WE'RE NOT PUTTING OUR COMMUNITY FIRST AS WELL.

BUT, UM, THAT'S JUST THE MAIN THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON.

AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE WALL, MY WALL IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THE NEW HOMES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD.

I FEEL THAT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN MY HOME AND THESE NEW HOMES IS WAY TOO CLOSE.

WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME, I BOUGHT MY PARTICULAR HOME BECAUSE IT ISN'T A CUL-DE-SAC.

AND THAT RIGHT NOW I CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE ONE NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT OF ME.

SO I JUST STILL HAVING 163 UNITS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE SIGNED UP FOR AS A COMMUNITY WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOME ON EILEEN.

SO PRETTY MUCH THOSE ARE MY MAIN CONCERNS.

AND, UM, I AM SAD AND YOU KNOW, THAT THE PRIVACY, YOU KNOW, FOR MY FAMILY WILL BE AFFECTED LARGELY, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT MANY HOMES, IT'S GONNA BE VERY CLOSE TO, TO MY HOME AS FAR AS THE NOISE, THE DAILY NOISE, AND ALSO WHEN THEY START BUILDING, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO, TO LOOK AT AND THINK ABOUT FOR ALL THE HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE NOISES, THE TRAFFIC, AND AGAIN, THE SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR NOW.

UH, UH, CHAIR, HANG, UH, THAT CONCLUDES, UM, ALL THE PARTICIPANTS ON ZOOM AND THEN I, AND THEN I'VE, UM, GIVEN YOU THE, UH, SPEAKING CARDS FOR, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH EVERYONE.

WHO'S HERE.

THAT'S SUPPOSED GREAT.

SO IT'LL BE, UM, TERESA GO, SIR.

HER MICROPHONE ON I CAN, I CAN, I CAN REALLY, HOW DO I TURN IT ON? JUST MOVE THE MIC TOWARDS YOU.

COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER GUESTS, I COULD HAVE HAD SOMETHING PLANNED, BUT AFTER ALL OF THAT PRESENTATIONS, SOME OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED, BUT ACTUALLY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

ALL OF US RESIDENTS TO ASK YOU TO TAKE MADAM CHAIR IS

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IS THAT BETTER? BETTER.

ALL OF US RESIDENTS ARE HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO TABLE AND DEFINITELY THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW OR NOT CONSIDERED OR NOT REALLY AGAINST FUTURE HAPPENS.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE.

I PLAYED IN THE ORANGE GROVE AT WHERE PIONEER SCHOOL WAS.

I WENT TO PIONEER SCHOOL.

I DID AN ADULT ADD AT PIONEER SCHOOL, AND NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A HOUSING PROJECT.

THAT'S NOT SO MUCH.

THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, AND THOSE CONCERNS HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED LAST SUMMER.

THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE PROJECT ARE CONTACTED.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY JUST THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROJECT.

NO ONE ELSE WAS CONTACTED.

THEN IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER THE CITY POSTED A NOTICE THAT ANYONE COULD EMAIL THE CITY ABOUT QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ON THE PROJECT.

AND THEY WOULD FORWARD THOSE CONCERNS TO THE DEVELOPER.

THE PLANS WERE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AS WELL AS THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT.

MANY RESIDENTS HAD QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, WHICH WERE, THEY WERE TOLD TO EMAIL TO THE CITY AND THEY WOULD BE FORWARDED TO THE DEVELOPER.

I AND A COUPLE OF OTHER RESIDENTS ACTUALLY MET WITH MS. BURNS.

SHE WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE THE PLANS.

WE WERE TOLD THAT THE PLANTS HAD BEEN SUBMITTED AND TO SUBMIT ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS VIA EMAIL TO THE CITY, AND THEY WOULD BE FORWARDED TO THE DEVELOPER.

SO WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONTACT WITH THE DEVELOPER.

EVERYTHING IS VIA EMAIL IN FEBRUARY, THE CITY POSTED THE DEVELOPERS REPLIES TO THE QUESTIONS OF THE RESIDENTS.

THOSE REPLIES DID NOT ADEQUATELY ANSWER OUR CONCERNS.

THE DEVELOPER USED ILLEGAL JARGON, SUCH AS THIS IS A SPECIFIC SITE PLAN.

THEREFORE WE COULD ASK FOR HIS OWN CHANGE TO BUILD 150 NET EIGHT UNITS IN 900 ACRES.

THEY ALSO DID NOT DO IN-DEPTH DEV ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY WEREN'T WARRANTED AS THE WOMEN STATED EARLIER.

ANOTHER REASON THE DEVELOPER USED TO NOT ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, WHICH IS COMING UP A LOT TONIGHT IS THAT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ON THE SURROUNDING STREETS IS THAT THIS DOES NOT PERTAIN DIRECTLY TO THE PROJECT.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THESE ANSWERS ON THE WEBSITE.

AND THEN TONIGHT I LEARNED THAT THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM SOME, FOR SOME REASON, BECAUSE THIS IS A TRAFFIC, A TRANSPORTATION HUB.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT TRANSPORTATION HUB MEANS.

THERE'S A BUS THAT RUNS UP AND DOWN AZUSA, AND THERE'S A BUS THAT RUNS UP AND DOWN ROLLING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY CONSIDERED TRANSPORTATION HUB.

NOW THESE HOUSES ARE GOING TO SELL FOR HOW MUCH MONEY I'VE HUNDRED THOUSAND $600,700,000.

THE PEOPLE THAT BUY THESE HOUSES, ARE THEY GOING TO USE THE BUS? NO.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT REASONING, THAT IT QUALIFIES FOR TRANSPORTATION HUB, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO BUSES THAT RUN PER PERPENDICULAR.

THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

AND FINALLY, THE QUESTION ABOUT DESIGN, BECAUSE WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DESIGN TOO, ESPECIALLY THE LACK OF GREEN SPACE, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A LOT OF LANDSCAPE THERE, ISN'T A LOT OF LANDSCAPE GOING IN THERE AS WELL AS THERE IS A PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT OF THE PROJECT.

NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THAT TONIGHT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PLANS, THERE'S A PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT OF THE PROJECT.

THAT ISN'T A VERY GOOD DESIGN, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT DOESN'T REFLECT WELL FOR OUR CITY.

IT DOESN'T BEAUTIFY OUR CITY TO HAVE A PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT OF A HOUSING PROJECT.

AND, AND THESE, THESE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED BY THE DEVELOPER BY SAYING THOSE WERE OUR OPINIONS AND THE DEVELOPER IS THEIR OPINIONS, BUT I FEEL LIKE OUR OPINIONS COUNT.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO BENEFIT US? SO AGAIN, I JUST LIKE TO SAY WE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING INDEFINITELY TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER, ALL OF US IN A LARGE GROUP TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES.

AND I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

NOW, HEARING THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT THAT THE DEVELOPER'S GOING TO PAY LIKE A MILLION DOLLAR PARKS FEE TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE DEVELOPING SO LITTLE LAND AS A PARK INSIDE THEIR PROJECT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT MONEY.

DOES THAT GO INTO A GENERAL FUND IN THE CITY? DOES THAT GO TO FOUR PARKS? ONLY IN THE CITY BECAUSE THE NORTH AREA NORTH OF THE FREEWAY IN WEST COVINA IS A PARK DESERT.

IT IS DESIGNATED A PARK DESERT.

WE HAVE TWO PARKS, WE HAVE PALM VIEW PARK AND WE HAVE PARK AT THE OTHER END.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO PARKS.

OKAY, I'M DONE.

AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR THOSE TWO PARKS.

[02:25:01]

I HAVE NEXT PAUL HAMILTON.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND THE PLANNING, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND THE STAFF MEMBERS.

UM, I TOO AM A RESIDENT IN THE AREA.

UM, I'VE LIVED HERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

UM, AS MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ME, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT OUR CONCERNS WITH THE WALNUT GROVE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT LOCATED ON ROLAND AVENUE.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE MEMBERS AND THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD LISTEN TO OUR VOICES AND CONCERNS BY TABLING THE PROJECT TO ALLOW MORE APPROPRIATE DESIGN.

IT HAS LESS IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE SEE A LOT OF HOMES BEING BUILT HERE, 158, RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM UNITS, UM, THREE STORY TOWN HOMES, TWO STORY, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL STYLE, DETACHED UNITS.

UM, AND THIS IS ONLY ON A NINE ACRE LOT.

THIS WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, BOTH AESTHETICALLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY.

THERE IS A LACK OF GREEN SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO ENJOY.

WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE GREEN SPACE TO BE CONSIDERED, TO ALLOW MORE AESTHETIC APPEAL TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALLOW MORE SPACE BETWEEN THE PERIMETER WALL AND BACKYARD TO HELP IMPROVE THE NOISE LEVEL OF AIR CONDITIONERS RUNNING IN THE SUMMER AND MAINTAINING THE PRIVACY FOR THE EXISTING HOMES ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.

WE REQUEST AT A MINIMUM 25 FOOT OF BUFFER ZONE WITH TALL LOW-MAINTENANCE HEDGES PLANTED WITHIN THE BUFFER ZONE TO HELP MAINTAIN THE PRIVACY FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

WE ALSO REQUEST THAT THE OAK TREES BE PROTECTED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA NOT TO BE REMOVED, BUT THE ARE GOING TO BE RE MY PLACE.

WE CONSIDER THAT THE PARKING IS LIMITED AS WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED.

UM, THERE IS A PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT AS WELL.

UM, BUT THIS AS WE DISCUSSED AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW ON ROLAND AVENUE, LEAF PIONEER ECKERMANN HOME, REST, BUTTERFIELD, AND AILEEN STREETS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS TRAFFIC WILL ALSO POTENTIALLY CAUSE ACCIDENTS ON ROLAND AND WITH THE INCREASED PEDESTRIANS, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN WALKING DOWN ROLAND FROM TREY WIC AND OTHER SCHOOLS CLOSE AND NEARBY STRIP MALLS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST MORE PARKING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS KEEPING THE PARKING AWAY FROM THE FRONT ENTRANCE IS THIS WILL HELP IMPROVE THE AESTHETIC APPEAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPROVE THE SECURITY TO REDUCE THE THEFT AND HOMELESS POPULATION FROM LIVING IN THE OPEN SPACE OF THE PARKING LOT.

WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST THAT APPROPRIATE TRASH DISPENSERS BE PLACED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW CONVENIENT ACCESS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE THINK IF THE TRASH DISPENSERS ARE NOT CONVENIENT FOR THEM THERE, THE, THE, THE MEMBER OF THE RESIDENTS WILL END UP PUTTING THE TRASH BARRELS OUT ON ROLAND AVENUE.

UM, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST MR. CROSBY REACH OUT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE MORE THAN 300 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY, AND LISTEN TO ALL OF OUR CONCERNS.

MOST OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LONG TIME.

WE'VE HAD THEIR FAMILY MOVED INTO THEIR, AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A MORE ATTRACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE WOULD LIKE THE FINISHED DEVELOPMENT TO BE PART OF OUR EXISTING.

AND I'M SURE THERE'LL BE MORE TO COME TOO MANY UNITS.

AND NEXT WE HAVE SUSAN .

HI PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY OF WEST COVINA.

WANT TO TABLE THIS HEARING AND TELL CONTRACTORS IN THE CITY OF WEST CONVENER, WEST COVINA RECONSIDER THE PLANS ON WALNUT GROVE WITH THE CONCERNS OF THE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE WRITTEN YOU AND HAVE SENT EMAILS TO YOU AND HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU REGARDING ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS, BECAUSE IT AFFECTS OUR WAY OF LIFE.

AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY YOUR DECISION, WHICH OF YOU WOULD WANT THIS PROJECT OR TO YOUR HOME.

THE DEVELOPERS MINT HAS ZERO BENEFITS FOR US, BUT STILL WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

DO YOU WANT TO WORK WITH, OH, WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS IN THE FAMILIES THAT WILL BE MOVING IN? WE HAVE TRIED TO COVER ALL OF OUR CONCERNS

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WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THERE'D BE 15 UNITS PER ACRE.

TONIGHT.

WE SAW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

YOU JUST TAKE 158 UNITS, TIMES TWO, BECAUSE MOM AND DAD WOULD GO TO HAVE A CAR THAT'S 316 CARS, OR YOU GOT MAYBE A HUNDRED TEENAGERS THAT GO TO A DRIVE.

THAT'S 416 CARS.

AND WHEN THEY START RENTING THEIR ROOMS AND SOME OF THESE HOUSES, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MEET THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT, LET'S JUST SAY ANOTHER HUNDRED, 516 CARS.

NO 106 CARS WILL NOT LEAVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MORNING OR COME BACK IN THE EVENING.

IT'LL BE CLOSE TO 500.

HOW DO WE KNOW THIS? BECAUSE WE'VE LIVED THROUGH IT.

MY CHILDREN WENT TO ALL THE SCHOOLS UP AND DOWN, AND THAT TRAFFIC ON A ROLLING IS RIDICULOUS.

AND THE TRAFFIC ON PERENTE.

AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SAID, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE STREETS OR GO TO GO THROUGH.

UM, ALSO WE WANT TO THE WALLS TO BE HIGH ENOUGH SO THAT NO ONE CAN LOOK IN AT US AND WE CAN HAVE OUR PRIVACY AND THEY CAN'T CLIMB.

SO A SIX FOOT WALL IS NOT GOING TO HELP IN MY DAY, YOUNGER.

I COULD GET OVER SIX FOOT WALL.

I COULDN'T DO IT TODAY.

AND I KNOW YOUNG BOYS AND HOMELESS PEOPLE WE'VE SEEN IT DONE CAUSE WE LIVE ON THE CUL-DE-SAC OF EILEEN.

SEVEN TO EIGHT FOOT WOULD GIVE US SOME PRIVACY AND SOME COMFORT FOR PEOPLE.

UH, THE, UH, THE PROPOSED PLAN DOES NOT COMPLIMENT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY LOOK LIKE APARTMENTS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM TO BECOME SINGLE HOMES AND NOT THESE THREE STORY MONSTERS.

WHEN YOU LIVE ON ROLAND AND ALL YOUR LIFE, YOU'VE BEEN THERE AND YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU SEE THE MOUNTAINS, IT MIGHT NOT BE NOTHING TO YOU, BUT AFTER BEING IN YOUR HOME FOR 40 PLUS YEARS, THE MOUNTAINS BRING JOY AND PEACE TO US.

AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE, WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS LOCKDOWN, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET OUT AND ABOUT.

THIS IS FOR A LOT OF THE ELDERLY AND BELIEVE ME, A LOT OF PARENTS THAT HAVE TO DO HOME TEACHING, IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE THE SNOW IN THE MOUNTAINS.

UM, ALSO WE HEAR THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW LAW THAT COMES IN, THAT WILL ALLOW FOR EXTRA DWELLING TO BE BUILT ON THE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY, IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY IMPACTED.

AND ALSO WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL BE RENTING THEIR ROOMS TO OTHERS.

WE LIVE ON, I LIVE ON A BLOCK OF 13 HOMES.

SIX OF THEM ARE RENTALS.

FOUR OF THEM ARE EITHER AIRBNB OR RENT, HAVE THEIR HOUSES DIVIDED.

AND THERE'S FIVE TO SIX FAMILIES, FOUR TO FIVE FAMILIES LIVING IN THEM.

THERE'S A LOT OF CARS ON OUR STREET BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ROOM TO PARK ANYWHERE.

UM, WE HAVE A DISASTER WAITING UPON US UNITS THAT ARE FIVE FEET APART.

WHAT IF A FIRE STARTS, THAT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE OTHER HOMES AND OUR HOMES ALSO, PLEASE HEAR US AND READ WHAT OUR EMAILS AND OUR CARMEN HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO YOU.

THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE ARE SURE MANY OF YOU DO NOT LIVE CLOSE TO THIS PROJECT, BUT WE DO.

AND IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD WANT THE BEST FOR ALL AND NOT JUST FOR THE MONEY.

UM, OKAY.

UM, THAT'S IT, I HAVE A LOT MORE, BUT EVERYONE ELSE SAID BASICALLY, BUT REALLY PLEASE TAKE THE TIME AND BE HONEST WITH YOURSELVES, BE TRUTHFUL TO YOURSELVES AND US, AND ALSO MORALLY WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION ON THIS.

BUT WE DO WANT THIS PROJECT TO BE TABLED UNTIL WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION WITH EVERYBODY.

NEXT WE HAVE LYDIA AND PREY EVENING.

UM, MY NEIGHBORS AND I AGREE THAT WE DO NOT LIKE THIS PROJECT AS IT IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED.

WE REJECT THIS PROJECT.

FIRST THING I REJECT TO ANY HOUSING PROJECT THAT REPLACES A SCHOOL AND I'VE MADE MY COMMENTS KNOWN TO THE CITY THAT I WOULD RATHER HAVE A COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER, SUCH AS A PARK WITH AN AQUATIC CENTER.

HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT THAT IS NOT LIKELY THE FOLLOWING ARE MY SHARED CONCERNS AND REQUESTS WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR REJECTIONS OF THE CURRENT PLANS.

EXCUSE ME.

CAN YOU SPEAK CLOSE? I'M SORRY.

UM, OH, SPEAKER, THANK YOU.

SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

UM, ME AND MY HUSBAND, WE LIVE AT THE HISTORICAL HOME.

[02:35:01]

UM, THANK YOU.

CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE CALLED FOR EIGHT UNITS PER ONE ACRE.

AND AS MENTIONED, THEY WANT TO CHANGE THIS TO 20.

THEN THIS IS FAR TOO MANY.

UM, IT SEEMS THAT THE ONLY REASON IS SO THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN MAKE MORE MONEY AT THE EXPENSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR MANY YEARS, REJECT THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS.

WE PAY TAXES, SUPPORT THE CITY, VOTE AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE UPKEEP OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE WATER THAT IS GENERATED ON THIS SITE MUST BE CONTAINED ONSITE.

IT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO RUN INTO THE STREET IN FLOODED ROUGHLY FIVE ACRES OF THE NINE ACRE LAND TO BE CHANGED AS CURRENTLY GRASS AND TREES.

AND THIS IS FIVE ACRES OF PENETRABLE LAND TO BEING REPLACED BY IMPENETRABLE MATERIALS.

THE CITY SHOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THE APPLICANT TO REPLACE SUCH A LARGE NUMBER OF LAND WITHIN PENETRABLE MATERIALS UNTIL AFTER THE CITY HAS ADDRESSED.

THE CURRENT FLOODING ISSUES CAUSED BY EVEN LOW RAINFALL.

AND I INVITE YOU GUYS TO DRIVE ON ROLLING ON THURSDAY MORNING AFTER TOMORROW'S STORM AND TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR US RESIDENTS.

UM, LIKEWISE, THE APPLICANT SHOULD CONTAIN THEIR OWN WATER RUNOFF, NOT ALLOWING IT TO FLOOD CITY ON STREETS AND RIGHT AWAY, SIDEWALKS PAUSING FOR POTENTIAL, UM, FALLS ACCIDENTS, ET CETERA.

ACCORDING TO THE CALIFORNIA HEALTHY PLACES, INDEX SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, PUBLIC HEALTH ALLIANCE, HPI SAFE DRINKING WATER INDICATORS FOR THIS TRACK OF NINE MONTHS, SEVEN 91 HOMES.

MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE AN INDICATOR SCORE OF 9.3 OUT OF 100, AND THIS IS QUITE LOW.

SO ACCORDING TO THE EPA WATER RUNOFF PICKS UP OIL AND OTHER CONTAMINANTS FERTILIZER BACTERIA.

AND THEN THIS GOES INTO LAKES AND STREAMS AND INTO THE OCEAN.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO UNTREATED THIS REALLY CONTAMINATES OUR WATER AND THE HPI INDICATOR.

I MENTIONED COMBINED INFORMATION ABOUT 13 CONTAMINANTS AND TWO TYPES OF WATER QUALITY VIOLATIONS FOUND DURING DRINKING WATER SAMPLE TESTING FROM MY TRACT.

THIS INDEX WAS DEVELOPED BY THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY AND IS INCLUDED IN THE CAL AND VIRAL SCREEN.

SO THE WATER RUNOFF PROBLEMS ONLY EXACERBATE THIS PROBLEMS. AND RATHER THAN WE REJECT THESE PLEASANT REQUESTS THAT THE APPLICANT EXPLORE GREENER OPTIONS, SUCH AS PENETRABLE PAVERS, POOL, PAVERS, GREEN ROOFS, ET CETERA, OPTIONS, SUCH AS THESE WILL NOT ONLY ALLEVIATE ISSUES WITH WATER RUNOFF AND CONTRIBUTED CONTAMINANTS, BUT IT WILL ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO A MORE GREENER LIVING ENVIRONMENT AND HELP ALLEVIATE THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO.

AGAIN, THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE REMOVAL OF FIVE ACRES OF PENETRABLE LAND, AND THEY WANT TO PUT IN ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMON OPEN SPACE.

AND THAT IS ROUGHLY THE SIZE OF A NEIGHBORING SINGLE FAMILY LOT.

AND THIS IS FAR TOO SMALL.

SO MORE LANDSCAPING IS MENTIONED, UM, IN THIS AREA ONLY 3.2% OF THE LAND HAS TREE CANOPY AND THEY DO PLAN TO INSTALL TREES.

HOWEVER, IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT.

UM, I REJECT THE PROPOSAL OF REPLACING FIVE PROTECTED OAK TREES WITH 36 AND SPOCK TREES, BUT THESE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD TREES.

AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY ENJOY SEEING THE BIRDS COME.

THEY GET TO LIVE THERE EVERY YEAR, UM, AND, AND HAVE THEIR NEST THERE.

SO WE'RE REMOVING THEIR HABITAT AT THE BENEFIT OF THE DEVELOPER, BEING ABLE TO PUT THEIR HOUSES WHEREVER THEY WANT THEM.

UM, AND THEN WITH TRAFFIC, UM, THERE ARE TRAFFIC STUDY FLAWS AND I ADDRESSED THIS TO DARLENE AND MS. ROBIN, UM, THE ITE TRIP GENERATION HANDBOOK PROVIDES DATA FOR 19 DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.

HOWEVER, X ELIGIBLE DWELLING UNITS WERE NOT FACTORED.

AND IN 2020 CALIFORNIA CHANGED LAWS AND ADU COATS ALLOWING FOR, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES TO BUILD IN RENTAL, EIGHTIES AND JUNIOR, IF USE, IN FACT, CALIFORNIA HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE, SECTION SIX FIVE, FIVE EIGHT, THREE, THE C7 REQUIRES THAT CITIES AND COUNTIES DEVELOP A PLAN THAT INCENTIVIZES AND PROMOTES THE CREATION OF ADS THAT CAN BE OFFERED AT AFFORDABLE RENT FOR VERY LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.

SO GIVEN THIS, THE TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT ARE FLAWED.

THE CITY IS UNPREPARED WITH THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE TO TAKE ON THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE GENERATED BY THIS PROJECT.

ADDITIONALLY, MY NEIGHBORS AND I DO NOT WELCOME THE ADDITION OF THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THIS PROJECT.

UM, ONE MORE THING, VERY IMPORTANT OUTREACH WAS 300 FEET AND IT WAS ALL IN ENGLISH AND WE HAVE 55% HISPANIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND 15.2% ASIAN.

AND THIS OUTREACH ASSUMES THAT EVERYONE SPEAKS ENGLISH.

I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS DON'T ALL SPEAK ENGLISH, SO NOT ONLY EXPAND TO A THOUSAND FEET, BUT ALSO EXPAND TO OTHER LANGUAGES.

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THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOL THAT OUR HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1892.

OUR HOUSE IS MADE OF CEMENT DECORATIVE STONE, ALL THE WALLS, OUR ENTIRE HOUSE IS MADE OUT OF THIS CEMENT BRICKS.

UH, WE HAVE LATHAM, PLASTER, CEILINGS, AND WALLS.

UM, THE LAST TIME WE HAD A BIG CONSTRUCTION DOWN ROLAND IS WHEN THEY REPLACED ALL THE, UM, SEWAGE AND REPAID THE STREET.

AND AT THE TIME THE BIG, UM, MACHINES THAT DID ALL THAT SHOOK OUR HOUSE QUITE A BIT.

AND SO I HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH ALL THE EARTH MOVERS AND THE BIG MACHINERY DAMAGING OUR HOUSE.

IT'S OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

SO I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ON THAT.

AND ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DUST AND EVERYTHING.

THAT'S B WE HAVE OUR SINGLE PANE WINDOWS.

WE HEAR ALL NOISES.

UM, WE TRIED TO KEEP OUR HOUSE HISTORICALLY TO WAY IT WAS BUILT.

WE JUST SPENT $40,000 RECENTLY TO REDO THE ROOF AND HAD OUR RAPTORS CUT EXACTLY HOW THEY WERE WHEN THEY BUILT THIS HOME.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE KEEP OUR HOME, UM, HISTORICAL AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

UM, WE BUILT, WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 1982 AND BEFORE THAT MY HUSBAND'S FATHER AND GRANDMOTHER LIVED IN THAT HOUSE.

SO IT'S BEEN IN OUR FAMILY FOR QUITE A FEW GENERATIONS.

UM, WE THINK THIS IS OUR FAR OVER HOME, BUT WE'VE HAD RECENT DISCUSSIONS THAT IF THIS GOES IN, WE DON'T KNOW, AND WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS HOME.

AND WE LOVE THE VIEW.

WE HAVE A PERFECT VIEW OF THE MOUNTAINS, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED ME ABOUT THIS HOUSE AND NEIGHBORHOOD LIVING ON ROLAND.

WE LISTENED TO THAT TRAFFIC.

IT IS BAD.

WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY NOW DURING THE COVID, WHEN THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, AND THE PEOPLE THAT SPEED DOWN OUR STREETS, THEY'RE NOT DOING 40 MILES AN HOUR AND WE'VE LISTENED TO WHAT MOTORCYCLES, POP, WHEELIES ALL THE WAY DOWN.

UM, IT IS, IT IS PRETTY BAD.

WE WALK OUR DOG EVERY NIGHT AND WE LISTENED TO THESE CARS, RACE UP AND DOWN OUR STREET.

AND THAT'S NOW WITHOUT THE TRAFFIC, ONE SCHOOL GETS IN.

IT IS HARD TO EVEN GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY BECAUSE YOU GOT ROLAND ELEMENTARY, YOU GOT TRAYWICK AND YOU GOT COVINA HIGH, AND EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO GET THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

I CAN'T GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.

I WORKED FOR THE SCHOOL.

I WORKED FOR COVINA VALLEY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AN AID.

AND SO I GOT TO GET AT MY JOB THE SAME TIME BABIES, GETTING THEIR KIDS.

AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PUT OVER 500 PEOPLE, JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES AND THINK OF YOUR HOUSE.

AND NOW 500 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MOVE IN ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME THAT THE TRAFFIC IS NOT SIGNIFICANT.

YOU KNOW, THAT HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY BE? IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT WHEN PIONEER WAS AN ADULT SCHOOL, THE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THERE, THERE WAS AN OPENING IN THE MEDIAN.

AND THEN THE OPENING THAT YOU HAD, THE HORSESHOE DRIVEWAY, AND WHEN THEY WOULD COME OUT, I GUARANTEE YOU, THERE'S PROBABLY ONE TO TWO ACCIDENTS A MONTH.

CAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE COMING ACROSS, ROLLING, LOOKING FOR THE TRAFFIC, THAT'S GOING WEST AND THEN TRY AND NAVIGATE THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING EAST.

AND THERE WAS ACCIDENTS AND THEY HAD TO BEEN THE, OUR NEIGHBORS FRONT YARDS ALL THE TIME.

SO I HAVE A CONCERN THAT IF THIS HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THE OUTLET FOR THE, UH, DRIVEWAYS? CAUSE EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE DUMPED ONTO ROLLING AND THEN TO GET TO MY HOUSE, I HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN WHERE HOME REST IS.

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I ALMOST GET REAR-ENDED JUST BECAUSE I HAVE TO SLOW DOWN, MAKE THE U-TURN AND COME BACK UP, ROLLING TO GET TO MY HOUSE.

AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ALL THAT TRAFFIC AND WHAT ARE PEOPLE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE MORNING? THEY'LL GO TRY TO GET AN AZUSA TO ON THE FREEWAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN, ROLLING, MAKE THE SAME U-TURN TO GET UP ONTO AZUSA AND THEN GET ON THE FREEWAY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE.

I DON'T OPPOSE TO SOME HOMES BEING BUILT THERE.

THIS IS JUST TOO MANY.

IT'S JUST TOO MANY FOR THAT SIZE OF A LOT.

AND IT WILL IMPACT EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN THAT AREA.

SO I WOULD JUST WANT YOU TO REALLY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THINK OF YOUR OWN HOME.

AND NOW IMAGINE OVER 500 PEOPLE MOVING ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU AND WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? SO I JUST WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH THAT THOUGHT, THANK YOU.

HEARING UP TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

I CAME HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORS AND I AGREE THAT WE DO NOT LIKE THE PROJECT AS IT IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED.

AND HERE ARE SOME REASONS RIGHT NOW, THE ZONING ORDINANCE CALLS FOR EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE, THE DEVELOPERS WANT THE ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGED TO NOW, WE'RE

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THIS IS TOO MANY.

IT GREATLY IMPACTS MY NEIGHBORS AND ME AND WE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

FOR MANY YEARS.

WE PAY TAXES, WE SUPPORT THE CITY.

WE VOTE AND WE CONTRIBUTE TO THE UPKEEP OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU'VE HEARD FROM MANY, MANY PEOPLE HOW THAT, HOW THIS WHOLE PROJECT WILL IMPACT THEIR LIVES.

AND IT'S SO MANY PEOPLE, UH, 500 PEOPLE INTO SUCH A SMALL AREA, HEARD FROM THE WOMAN WHO GAVE THE REPORT ABOUT, UM, MITIGATED IMPACT.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

500 PEOPLE, MAYBE ONLY 1% OF WEST COVINA.

BUT IF YOU HAVE THOSE 500 PEOPLE IN ONE NINE ACRE SPOT, THAT IS QUITE A DIFFERENT STORY IS GOING TO IMPACT IT.

IT'S NOT SPREAD OUT OVER THE WHOLE CITY.

WE DON'T WANT PARKING FACING AVENUE.

IT WILL LOOK BAD.

THE PARKING SHOULD BE PUT INSIDE.

THE COMPLEX.

THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE LANDSCAPING.

NOT ONLY IS THIS PLEASING TO LOOK AT, BUT IT HELPS TO ABSORB SOME OF THE RAINWATER WITHOUT LANDSCAPING.

THE WATER WILL RUN INTO THE STREET AND FLOODED.

WE WANT BROADER OUTREACH FROM THE SITE, CHANGE IT FROM 300 FEET TO 600 FEET.

THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT AFFECTS MANY PEOPLE WHO OTHERWISE MAY NOT BE INFORMED AS TO WHAT IF B WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

WE DON'T WANT THE TRASH CANS ON THE STREET.

THIS WILL LOOK TERRIBLE.

WE WANT COMMUNAL TRASH AND CLOSERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT NOBODY SEES THE TRASH CANS FROM THE STREET.

WE WANT EACH UNIT TO HAVE THREE PARKING SPACES TO ALLOW SUFFICIENT STREET PARKING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

FINALLY, WE ASK THAT THIS PROJECT BE TABLED TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER AND THE COMMUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER.

INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS ARE NOT HELPFUL.

IDEALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT TABLED UNTIL THE COVID PANDEMIC HAS SUBSIDED.

OUR GOAL IS TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL COMMUNITY.

RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GIVING UP AN AWFUL LOT AND WE ARE GETTING NOTHING IN RETURN.

THAT'S FINE.

IS IT'S REALLY SHORT-SIGHTED.

HONORABLE MEMBERS AND STAFF.

FIRST, I WISH TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, UH, ON BEHALF, ON MY BEHALF AND THAT OF MANY OF MY CONCERN NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORS WHO COULD NOT ATTEND THIS EVENING, YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT A PETITION SIGNED BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE STREETS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND TO EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY OBJECTIVE IS NOT TO SIT HERE AND TRY TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO AS YOU WERE EARLIER DONE.

NO, MY OBJECTIVE IN SPEAKING TO THIS BODY IS TO APPEAL TO YOUR BETTER JUDGMENT AND YOUR SENSE OF DUTY.

AS YOU CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THIS PROJECT, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU PLEASE, TO ASK YOURSELF, AS YOU LOOK AT THAT PLAN, AS YOU LOOK AT THAT IN FRONT OF YOU, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS POPULATION NEARLY TRIPLED ALL OF A SUDDEN, WOULD YOU BE CONCERNED OVER THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT? SUCH A CHANGE IS BOUND TO HAVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? CERTAINLY WE DO NOT AIM TO STOP THE CITY FROM DOING ITS PART IN TRYING TO MEET THE NEED FOR HOUSING AND TO EXPAND THE TAX BENEFITS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE CITY TO THRIVE AND TO PROSPER.

HOWEVER, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT ENCOMPASSES TOO MANY NEGATIVE ASPECTS THAT MUST NOT BE IGNORED.

IT IS CLEAR THAT THE DEVELOPERS ONLY FOCUS IS TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS BY OVERBUILDING THE PROJECT SITE AND TO DO SO UNDER THE CITY ATRIA NICHE, HOW SEEKING EXCESSIVE CONCESSIONS OF THE CITY'S EXISTING REGULATIONS AS PROPOSED THIS PROJECT

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IF YOU CAREFULLY STUDY THE PROPOSED PLANS, YOU WILL SEE THAT FOR THE SAKE OF PROFIT, IT NEGLECTS TO PROVIDE FOR THE PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS OF ITS INTENDED RESIDENTS.

THE DESIGN IS NOT APPEALING, NOR DOES IT PROMOTE A SENSE OF PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP.

IT IS BLAND AND TRANSITORY AND MORE AKIN TO A MEGA APARTMENT PLOT COMPLEX.

AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THOSE EXTENDED STAY AMERICAS.

IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT.

THE ONLY APPEAL THAT THIS WILL HAVE IS TO INVESTORS WHO WISH TO HAVE MULTIPLE RENTAL UNITS, NOT TO HOME OWNERS WHO MAY WISH TO REMAIN A PART OF THE COMMUNITY FOR DECADES AS THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF US HAVE I BOUGHT MY HOUSE ON LEAF AVENUE IN 1999, MY FIRST HOUSE I BOUGHT ON LARC CALLAN IN 1997.

MY FIRST BUYER EXPERIENCE WAS WITH WEST COVINA.

I LOVE THE CITY, BUT THIS THREATENS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS PEACEFUL AND SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN AFFORDED A MEASURE OF PRIVACY, WHICH THESE PROSPECTIVE RESIDENTS WILL NOT ENJOY IN THAT COMPLEX, IF IT IS APPROVED AS, AS PROPOSED.

SO WE KINDLY APPEALED TO YOU AND REQUEST THAT THE DEVELOPER BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE MORE LANDSCAPE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT, 15 TO 20 FEET SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS, A MINIMUM OF 25 TO 30 FEET IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK TO PROVIDE CURB APPEAL, ADEQUATE SPACE, TO INSTALL EVEN THEIR PROPOSED MONUMENT AND TO ELIMINATE, AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, THE FRONT PARKING, THE, THE MATTER OF THE TRASH IS, IS, IS MAJOR.

THINK OF ALL THE GARBAGE THAT WILL BE PRODUCED BY ALL THOSE RESIDENTS.

THEY EXPECT TO HAVE THEM I'M IN THE GARAGE.

WHAT ABOUT PICKUP DAY? WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT TRASH IN THOSE TINY LITTLE, SO TINY LITTLE AISLES YOU SEE THERE, IT WILL BE WITH TRASH CANS.

ADDITIONALLY, WATER RUNOFF, LOOK AT ALL THE CONCRETE.

LOOK AT ALL THE DRIVEWAY.

THERE'S NO GREENERY WATER RUN OFF CAN BE BETTER MANAGED WHEN MORE GREEN GREEN SPACES PROVIDED IN GENERAL.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU WILL AGREE THAT HAPPY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE MADE UP OF HAPPY, SATISFIED HOMEOWNERS.

PLEASE TRY TO ENVISION THE PROPOSED COMPLEX THROUGH THE EYES OF A POTENTIAL BUYER AND ASK YOURSELF, WOULD YOU INVEST IN THAT PROJECT, THAT COMPLEX, IF YOU DID, HOW LONG WOULD YOU ACTUALLY LIVE THERE? WOULD YOU BE SATISFIED WITH THE PURCHASE OR WOULD YOU GET BUYER'S REMORSE RATHER QUICKLY? IS THE DEVELOPER SELLING A PRODUCT THAT IS NEEDED OR IS HE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE HOUSING CRISIS TO MANIPULATE THE CITY? YOUR DECISION IS PARAMOUNT.

IT WILL EITHER PRESERVE OR PERMANENTLY DISTURBED THE QUALITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND GOOD EVENING CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, STAFF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THANK YOU JOANNE, FOR THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.

IT WAS VERY DETAILED.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, TELL ME HERE TONIGHT TO OPPOSE THE PROJECT AS WELL.

NOT THAT I, I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, NOT THAT I'M OPPOSED TO A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT BEING DEVELOPED AT THE SITE, BUT I DO OPPOSE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS THE WAY IT IS DESIGNED ITS LAYOUT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE CONDUCIVE TO A PROJECT THAT WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME.

UM, I DID SUBMIT A LETTER ON DECEMBER 21ST RELATED TO THE NEGATIVE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.

AND IN THAT LETTER I OUTLINED CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL AND, UH, EFFICIENCIES AS I WILL CALL THEM.

AND THEN IN THE DESIGN, SOME OF THOSE THAT HAVE, UH, THE OLD WALL SHOULD BE DECORATIVE AND THERE SHOULD BE, UM, NOT PRECISION BLOCK, BUT IT WILL DOUBLE THE SPLIT FACE ON BOTH SIDES.

UM, DO GRETA SET BACK LIKE MANY OF THE OTHER, UM, SPEAKERS ALSO STATED THEY ONLY PROVIDING SEVEN AND A HALF FEET OF SEPARATION THAT IS NOT ADEQUATE.

WE NEED GREAT BUFFERS TO PLANT TREES, MATURE LANDSCAPING PROVIDE MORE PRIVACY ATTENUATE NOISE.

AND IF IT WAS A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOME, LIKE THEY WERE BUILT BEFORE, THERE WERE FIVE FEET.

AT LEAST THIS IS JUST SINGLE FAMILY

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HOMES.

THIS IS WHAT THEY FAMILY.

SO THEY SHOULD PROVIDE A WIDER SUBARC PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT REALLY MUNICIPAL CODE DOESN'T ALLOW THAT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, IT DOESN'T DOESN'T ALLOW PARKING TO BE LOCATED IN THE FRONT.

SO I WOULD BE ALLOWING IT HERE.

HE LOOKS HORRIBLE FROM THE PRESENTATION TO ROLL IN.

UM, AND ALSO TO THE PARKING.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OH, WHERE THE PARKING IS LOCATED, IT'S GOING TO BE TOTALLY VISIBLE FROM ROLLING, NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN A COMMUNITY, MAN.

THEY MENTIONED ABOUT THE TRASH, UM, HOW THE TRASH IS BEING HANDLED.

I WILL SUGGEST THE TRASH ENCLOSURES BE PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S MORE ADEQUATE FOR MULTI-FAMILY.

IT COULD BE ONCE PICK UP ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK.

THE MULTIFAMILY DOESN'T REALLY BLEND VERY WELL WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY.

IT'S LIKE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND ONE, THEY SHOULD BE MORE COHESIVE THAT IN ADDITION, THE DEVELOPERS ASKING FOR A LOT OF DEVIATIONS, WHAT WE CALL CONCESSIONS WITHOUT ANY COMMUNITY BENEFIT, THEY'RE PROPOSING $150,000.

I THINK HE SHOULD PROPOSE, I SHOULD PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EVEN IF IT'S AT THE MODERATE INCOME THAT SHOULD BE, UH, IN EXCHANGE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE'S ASKING IN, NOT GIVING ANYTHING BACK.

UM, SO I'M CONCERNED WITH A SPECIFIC PLANT THAT I WANT TO KNOW IS THAT IT ALLOWS FOR HEIGHT UP TO 45 FEET, THAT PLANS SHOW HEIGHT OF 36 AND A HALF FOR THOSE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES.

BUT IF THE PROJECT IS SO THE NEXT PERSON CAN COME AND ASK FOR 45 FEET IN HEIGHT, THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED WAY EXCESSIVE.

ADDITIONALLY, UM, IT'S, UH, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WERE NOT MENTIONED IN THE, UH, SPECIFIC PLAN IS THAT THE GENERAL PLAN ALSO CALLS FOR, UM, ACTUALLY CALL FOR A DIVISION OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

ALSO COPRA FOR SUR, FOR SERVING THE STABLE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN LINE YEARS ARE EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 22 YEARS.

AND THE GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THESE AREAS.

THE SAME GOAL CAN BE FOUND, UM, UNDER PART TWO, OUR WALL, OUR WELL-PLANNED COMMUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF PAGE 43 OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO THIS POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TO REDIRECT THE GROWTH IN DOWNTOWN, THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN ATLANTA, JASON, MAJOR CORRIDORS, WHICH IS SAID AVENUE, GLENDORA AVENUE AND NORTH SUSA AVENUE.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE CORRIDORS AND MANY PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THE RECYCLE WATER.

ONE OF THE ACTIONS, ALSO TWO UNDER THE GENERAL PLAN, A POLICY 1.5 TALKS ABOUT MINIMIZING RUNOFF POLLUTION AND TO INCORPORATE BASE MANAGEMENT, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, WHICH INCLUDE PROVIDING MORE LANDSCAPING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU TABLED THIS ITEM AND ALLOWED THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS DO HAVE A BETTER DESIGN PROJECT.

THE OVERCROWDING IS RIDICULOUS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRISTIAN PEREZ HAVE A COMEBACK.

THOMAS THOMAS, CHRIS.

HELLO.

NOW, UM, MY CONCERNS, THEY'VE ALL THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP.

ALL OF THEM PARKING, YOU NEED AT LEAST THREE TO FOUR SPACES PER UNIT.

OTHERWISE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL THOSE CARS PARKED ON ROLLING BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.

YOU HAVE 73 HOMES IN THE AFOREMENTIONED OR THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY, AND YOU WANT TO TRIPLE THAT IN, IN LESS SPACE THAT THE OVERCROWDING THAT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS. THE TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE TWO OUTLETS TO THIS PLACE

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WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF A MAJOR INTERSECTION.

THERE'S REALLY NO WAY ANYONE CAN GET OUT OF THERE SAFELY ORIENT.

IF THEY HAVE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN INTO THE CROSS GREEN SPACE, THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE.

THEY HAVEN'T MADE ENOUGH ROOM FOR ANY GREEN SPACE.

THEY'RE TAKING AWAY NINE ACRES OF GREEN SPACE AND GIVEN BACK NOTHING AND TRASHY CLOSERS, THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD BE HAPPY TO PUT TRASH AND CLOSERS IN RATHER THAN TO KANSAS IN THE DRY, IN THE, IN THE DRIVEWAYS.

THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE BASICALLY MY, AND ALSO MY CONCERN IS THE WHY, WHY IS THERE A NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONING IT'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY WHITEWATER? AREN'T THEY JUST PUTTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? THERE SHOULD BE NO NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THIS.

IT'S ALREADY FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, AMELIA.

UM, I HAVE LIVED IN, ON, ON EILEEN CO ON THE EILEEN CULVERTS ACT OR OVER 23 YEARS AND ENJOY THE PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE CHILDREN AND FAMILY LIVING AS HOMEOWNERS.

THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WITH LONG STANDING RESIDENTS WHO PAY TAXES AND WANT TO MAINTAIN A DECENT AND QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, I AM CONCERNED WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF 158 UNITS AS, UH, AS EVERYBODY ELSE HAS REITERATED THIS WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE NOISE POOL, WITH THE NOISE, THE POLLUTION AND THE TRAFFIC THAT IT MAY CREATE.

I HOPE THAT THESE ARE NOT LOW INCOME UNITS WITH, UM, WITH THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE MASTER PLAN.

THAT SEEMED TO HAVE SO MANY UNITS WITH VERY LITTLE SPACE AND YARDS FOR VISITOR PARKING, WHICH TRAFFIC AND CARS CAN OVERFLOW ON ROLAND STREET.

I UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT HAS BEEN PREPARED THOUGH.

IT WASN'T RECENTLY AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AVAILABLE NOW AND AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN HAS IS ALSO A MAIN CONCERN WITH THE ZONING CHANGE.

WILL THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS BE IMPACTED WITH ADDITIONAL TAXES OR ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENTS SUCH AS SEWER LINES ADDED, FLOOD CONTROL, ET CETERA.

MY MAIN CONCERN AGAIN IS THE NOT ALLOWING THE ALLIANCE, THE ELAINE STREET OR THE REMAINING CALLED THE SEX TO BE USED IN AS AN EMERGENCY EXIT FOR THESE ARE THESE UNITS.

I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I LIVE ON MARLENE STREET.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT, THAT ARE IN THE AREA.

PEOPLE WALK ON THE STREETS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS AND WE ENJOY THE QUIETNESS, BUT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW A FIRETRUCK OR AMBULANCE WALKING, GOING THROUGH OUR STREETS AT THIS, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY GOING TO BE VERY DESTRUCTIVE.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AS FAR AS USING EILEEN STREET AS AN EMERGENCY EXIT.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO CHRISTIAN PEREZ.

IS SHE, OR HE'S STILL HERE, IF NOT, WE'LL CONCLUDE ALL THE SPEAKER.

THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS.

DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK ANYONE ELSE? NO, THAT'S COME TO SPEAK.

IF NOT, UM, I'M SORRY.

I THINK I'M, I'M SORRY.

UM, OH, HOLD ON.

UM, UH, JUST, UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE TO GIVE EVERYONE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO SPEAK TO US, UH, UNFORTUNATELY IF WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK OUT, I THINK IT INAPPROPRIATELY PREJUDICES, EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS SPOKEN AND ABIDED BY THE FIVE MINUTE RULE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE APPLICANT TO BE, BUT THE APPLICANT IS, IS HE STILL HERE? COME ON UP.

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IF YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS CONCERN.

REQUIRED, UH, BY, UH, THE CITY STANDARDS.

AND THANK YOU.

SOME OF THESE WE, UM, WE ADDRESSED IN THE PRESENTATION AND OTHERS, OTHERS, UH, WE HAVE NOT, I'LL TOUCH ON A HANDFUL OF THOSE.

UH, FIRST I KNOW THE TRASH ENCLOSURES CAME UP IN A, IN A COUPLE OF, UH, CIRCUMSTANCES.

ONE THING I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MADE SPACE FOR THE RECEPTACLES IN THE GARAGE AND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE CENTRALIZED ENCLOSURES.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT CONCERNS WITH THE APARTMENT BLOCK.

I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY DOES KIND OF CONVEY THAT APARTMENT.

LOOK, WHEN YOU HAVE DUMPSTERS, YOU KNOW, CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THESE PROJECTS.

I MEAN, THIS IS A, THIS IS A FINKEL SINGLE FAMILY, UH, PROJECT.

AND AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE AN HOA HERE.

I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A, IN A PROJECT THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN HOA.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS WHEN YOU HAVE A TRASH RECEPTACLES THAT ARE LEFT OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR A DAY OR TWO DAYS, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY NICE ABOUT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS THAT THEY HAVE REGULATIONS WHERE THEY CAN ENFORCE THAT.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRASH RECYCLE, RECEPTACLES, JUST SITTING OUT THERE, UH, THAT AREN'T, UM, THAT AREN'T RETURNED TO THE GARAGE.

AND THEY ALSO CAN'T BE TAKEN OUT EARLY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO BE KEPT WITHIN A TIGHT TIMEFRAME.

SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.

UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT INCREASING THE WALL FROM, UH, SIX FEET TO SEVEN OR EIGHT FEET.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE LOOKED AT IN, IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.

AND WE ARE CERTAINLY, UH, OPEN TO INCREASING IT TO, I THINK, SEVEN FEET.

THERE'S PROBABLY, UM, A GOOD, UH, HEIGHT, PARTICULARLY ON THAT SIDE, THE, UH, ON THE WEST, ON THE EAST SIDE, I'M SORRY, YOU START TO GET AN EIGHT FOOT WALL AND IT WILL START TO LOOK LIKE A PRISON BLOCK.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT AN EIGHT FOOT WALL, BUT IT'S, IT'S PRETTY IMPOSING.

UH, BUT CERTAINLY, AND I HAD SPOKEN WITH MS. PEREZ A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MIGHT BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A GOOD SOLUTION, UH, FOR THOSE APPLICATIONS.

UH, THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT, UM, THE VEGETATION ONSITE.

I MEAN, THERE WILL BE OVER 200 TREES, UH, PLANTED, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT AND, YOU KNOW, TREES ARE FAR BETTER POLLINATORS AIR PURIFIERS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE ROOTS ARE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE RIGHT NOW.

WHAT'S OUT THERE, ASIDE FROM THE, THE, A HANDFUL OF TREES IS TURF GRASS.

I MEAN, THAT'S TURF IS NOT, NOT VALUABLE.

IT'S COMPACTED.

IT REQUIRES MOWING, UH, FERTILIZATION.

IT DOESN'T OFFER ANY POLLINIZATION WHATSOEVER.

AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY IT GETS SO COMPACTED THE WATER GENERALLY SHEETS, UH, RIGHT OFF OF THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S NOT REALLY A FAVORABLE COMPARISON.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TURF AND ASPHALT, THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY, UH, THE, ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT SEE THE EXPANSE OF VEGETATION POCKET, UH, OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE AREA THAT'S, THAT'S COVERED BY THE TURF NOW, UH, THAT'LL BE FAR MORE BENEFICIAL AND A VARIETY OF PLANT MATERIALS THAT AGAIN, THERE THEY OFFER A LOT MORE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, BENEFIT.

UH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, WATER, UH, INFILTRATION, AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSCIOUS OF, UH, WITH THE DESIGN, UH, FROM THE ONSET.

UH, WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THAT WATER THAT WAS COMING OFF OF THE COMMERCIAL SITE TO THE NORTH OF US.

CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST CHARGING, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THROUGH A PIPE AND SHOOTING DOWN SOME OF ITS, UH, OUTLETTING THERE ON PIONEER WITH THE BALANCE, UH, GOING DOWN ONTO ROLLING.

SO AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS INTERCEPTING THAT FLOW, METERING IT OUT, THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING, UH, ON THE INTERACT.

SO WE SEPARATED THE OFFSITE STORM DRAIN FROM THE, THE ONSITE STORM DRAIN AND UNDERNEATH THOSE PARKING, UH, AISLES, UH, WE'RE PUTTING IN, UH, INFILTRATION PIPE, WHICH WILL SLOW THE WATER, ALLOW SOME OF IT TO INFILTRATE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING, UH, TO THE ISSUE.

AND CERTAINLY NOT MAKING IT WORSE THAN IT IS TODAY WHERE WE'RE IMPROVING THE CONDITION, UH, THAT NOW EXISTS IN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THIS PROJECT OR THIS SITE.

AND, UH, ROLAND AVENUE, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON PARKING.

I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PROVIDING TWO COVERED SPACES FOR EACH UNIT AND THEN 99 ADDITIONAL SPACES ONSITE THAT EXCEEDS, UH, THE CITY OF REQUIREMENTS.

SO IN TERMS OF THERE BEING, UH, OVERFLOW PARKING OR BLEED OUT, AND WE'RE, WE'RE PROVIDING AN EXCESS OF WHAT WOULD BE

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IN ADDITION TO THAT AGAIN, UH, THE HOA IS A GOOD MECHANISM.

UH, FOR THESE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS WHERE WE IMPLEMENTED, UH, PARKING STANDARDS AND, YOU KNOW, RIGHT DOWN TO THE LETTER WHERE THAT THERE ARE INSPECTIONS DONE ON THE GARAGES.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE TO AGREE TO.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY COULD SAY, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE MY GARAGE INSPECTED, OR I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT WITH MY GARAGE.

THEY GET FINED, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PENALTIES ASSOCIATED WITH NON-COMPLIANCE.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE.

THEY ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, EACH AND EVERY DAY AND COMMON INTEREST COMMUNITIES AND THEY'RE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A ENFORCEMENT BEHIND THEM.

AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO, I THINK THE PARKING WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT I JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRIBUTION OF PARKING AND WHERE WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPING, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF BUFFERS BETWEEN THE PARKING, AS YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE SITE AND THE LAYERS OF LANDSCAPING THAT WILL INTERRUPT EACH ONE OF THOSE, INCLUDING, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE DIAMOND, UH, POCKETS, UH, WITHIN INCORPORATED INTO ALL OF THOSE, UH, PARKING AREAS, IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THEM, AS YOU MOVE YOUR WAY UP THROUGH, UH, THE COMMUNITY SITE THERE.

AND LASTLY, I KNOW THERE WAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, WHY CAN'T YOU JUST DO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, AGAIN, WE'RE ADJACENT TO A COMMERCIAL, UH, SITE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND VERY CANDIDLY IT'S, IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE.

I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES OVER THERE RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THERE'S HOMELESS.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE PROBABLY WERE STRUGGLING ALREADY AND ARE STRUGGLING MORE WITH COVID AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT'S JUST NOT A IDEAL, UH, COMPATIBLE USE FOR HAVING JUST A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY, UH, UH, HOME COMMUNITY UP AGAINST THAT.

SO WE WORKED THROUGH, UH, THE TRANSITIONS OF DENSITY, UH, WITH THE THREE-STORY TOWNHOMES OVER ON THAT SIDE ONLY.

AND THEN WE TRANSITIONED TO THIS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, CLUSTER STYLE STORY, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND AGAIN, TRANSITIONING DENSITY AND INTENSITY OF USE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT'S AN EFFECTIVE, UH, TRANSITION THERE.

AND IN THE OTHER THING, IS IT JUST ECONOMIC VIABILITY, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ONLY GET A FEW NUMBER OF HOUSES ON THAT SITE AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS THIS PROPERTY.

OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO INJECT THESE FUNDS BACK INTO THE DISTRICT, BACK INTO OTHER PROGRAMS. AND IF THIS PROJECT ISN'T ECONOMICALLY VIABLE FOR THEM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES ARE.

UM, BUT YEAH, THAT, UH, A LOW DENSITY PROJECT, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME OTHER EXAMPLES THAT WERE, THAT WERE CAST OUT THERE WITH A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF HOMES.

IT REALLY JUST COMES, COMES DOWN TO, UH, THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE SITE I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, UM, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, HOW THIS PROJECT GOING INCREASE HOME VALUES OF WHAT THE S THE SURROUNDING HOUSES AROUND THE PROPERTY THAT D DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE VALUES OF HOMES ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY WILL INCREASE BECAUSE OF A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE? YOU KNOW, IT'S CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, SPECULATION ON MY PART.

THERE ARE, THERE ARE LARGER LOTS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, BUT THESE ARE GOING TO BE NEW HOMES WITH ALL OF THE LATEST, UH, YOU KNOW, ADVANCEMENTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING NOISE, UH, EARLIER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THESE, THE NEWER PROJECTS, THEY HAVE VARIABLE SPEED COMPRESSORS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THEY'RE SO MUCH QUIETER THAN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT MOST OF US HAVE ON OUR HOMES TODAY.

UH, BUT A LOT OF THE BUILDERS ARE PUTTING IN, YOU KNOW, VERY CONNECTED HOMES, LOTS OF FEATURES.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, I JUST FINISHED A PROJECT OVER, OVER IN POMONA.

UH, THAT'S UH, A HIGH DENSITY ALTERNATIVE TO SURROUNDING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOMES, AND PEOPLE ARE, ARE PURCHASING NEW HOMES OVER THE SURROUNDING HOMES PURELY BECAUSE THEY WANT A NEW HOME.

THAT'S REALLY TURNKEY, HAS ALL OF THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY AND FURNISHINGS AND FITTINGS.

IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN WALK INTO AND IT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE WE GOING TO, UM, DRIVE UP THE HOME PRICES? I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SPECULATION ON MY PART, BUT I, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A NEW PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THERE, AND MAYBE INJECT SOME, SOME LIFE INTO SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES NEARBY AS WELL.

UH, AND THE ONE, WE GOT TWO SHOWS ALONG THE TREES GOING IN THERE.

AND I KNOW THE LANDSCAPING PLAN RIGHT THERE,

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AND I ALSO SEE THE, THE, THE BUSHES ON THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, THE BUSH WALLS ARE GOING UP NOW ON THE, ON THE, WHAT STREET IS, UH, ON EILEEN STREET.

UM, RIGHT NOW IT HAS, IT'S GOING TO BE BRICK WALL RIGHT THERE, AND IT'LL BE GRASS IN FRONT OF IT.

THERE WILL BE APPLIED MATERIALS.

SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN THE BULB OF THE CUL-DE-SAC? SO WE WILL PLANT THAT WITH SHRUBS AND TREES.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A STARK WALL, THAT ENTIRE AREA WILL BE PLANTED, UH, WITH PLANT MATERIAL.

IT WON'T BE, WON'T BE TURF, WON'T BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, HIGH-MAINTENANCE, UH, LIKE THAT, BUT THERE WILL BE, UH, SHRUBS AND OTHER, UH, PERENNIAL PLANT MATERIAL AND TREES THERE.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THIS, WHAT'S THE CR WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE BUSHES CALLED ON THE, ON THE YOU'RE USING ON THE WALL.

SO ALONG THE WALL, THE BUFFER WE'RE PROPOSING IT'S CALLED A POTA CARPUS.

AND THAT IS A VERY DENSE, UH, BUSHY, EVERGREEN, UH, PLANT MATERIAL.

IT ACTUALLY WILL GROW UP TO, UM, UH, 25, 30 FEET HIGH.

IF YOU LET IT, AS I SAID, WE GOING, GONNA KEEP IT COMPACT THROUGH THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION, IT'S A SEPARATE, UH, AREA THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN.

UH, IT WON'T BE, UH, SUBJECT TO INDIVIDUAL MAINTENANCE BY THE, BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT'S ADJACENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'D END UP WITH, YOU KNOW, A LACK OF UNIFORMITY OR, OR NO MAINTENANCE AT ALL.

OH, YEAH.

AND I THINK IT'S, UH, I MEAN, JUST AS AN IDEA, I THINK, UM, THE END, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO ACTUALLY BRING IF THAT IS, IF IT'S POSSIBLE EXTEND THAT INTO THAT QUARTER SACK AREA.

SO THERE'S LIKE A SOLID, UM, SEPARATION FROM THE BRICK WALL AND WHEN RESIDENTS AND OUR RESIDENTS BEFORE USED TO BE ABLE TO SEE A CLEAR GATE IN THE END SKU GRASS.

AND I THINK IT'LL BE, UH, ARCHER TEXTUALLY BEAUTIFIED, UH, IF, IF THAT BUSH COULD GO INTO THAT EILEEN AREA EXTENDING TO THAT AREA, BUT THAT'S JUST AN IDEA AND NOT, NOT A DIRECTION, BUT NO, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH A COUPLE OF THINGS.

OBVIOUSLY WE GET A VERTICAL ELEMENT THAT'S BLOCKING THE STARKNESS OF THAT WALL, THIS ACT.

SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT EXTENDING IT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE ASSOCIATION UNDER THE SAME PROGRAM.

AND I THINK IT'LL MAKE THE HOUSES ON THAT SHEET AT THE I'LL MAKE THAT AN REALLY BEAUTIFUL, SO, YEAH.

ALSO, CAN YOU EXPLAIN SOME OF THE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR CODE IS THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS SEEMS TO THINK THAT THE EMERGENCY GATE OR, OR ACCESS, HOW, AND WHEN WILL THEY BE USING THOSE GATES THAT WILL BE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY.

SO IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE AMBULANCE, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY, ONLY TIME THOSE WOULD BE, UH, UTILIZED.

SO IT'S, IT'S PURELY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GAIN ACCESS IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE OR SOME OTHER, UH, EXTRAORDINARY EVENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY COME BY FOR PERIODIC TESTING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT OTHERWISE THAT WOULD BE RESTRICTED ONLY TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE EXISTING, ROLL-IN THE TWO ROLAND ACCESS, AND THEN WHEN WOULD THEY USE THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS THE THIRD ACCESS? THE, THE PROJECT WOULD BE, UH, ACCESS ONLY FROM ROLLING THE TWO ACCESS POINTS ON ROLAND.

SO THERE WERE NO, THERE'D BE NO ACCESS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH.

TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER TWO GATES THAT IT'S NOT LOCKED, I GUESS.

I'VE JUST WANTED TO HEAR, IS THAT IF CALLED FROM THAT COMMUNITY AND AN AMBULANCE COMES BY, DO THEY PREFER TO USE, TO HAVE THOSE ACCESS FIRST BEFORE THEY USE THE, THE THIRD COL-DE-SAC AREA? OR DO THEY GO THROUGH THE CO-DESIGN AREA AND NOT THE OTHER? NO, IF IT'S AN AMBULANCE, IT'S GOING TO BE AT THEIR DISCRETION, WHATEVER THEY FEEL THEY CAN GET TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE, UH, PERSON THE FASTEST, BUT THAT WON'T BE, UM, THE PRIVATE OWNERS EITHER FROM THE COMMUNITY OR, UH, IN THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE RESTRICTED.

UM, THERE'LL BE A LOCKBOX, UH, ACCESS ONLY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, BUT REALLY THAT WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE EMERGENCY PERSONNEL.

SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOCK BOX AT THAT LOCATION.

SO THE FIREMAN OR THE EMERGENCY PERSON NEED TO COME DOWN OUT OF HIS TRUCK OR VAN OR CAR, WHATEVER IT IS THAT HE'S DRIVING, HE HAD TO GET THE KEY AND OPEN THE GATE AND THEN OPEN UP THE GATE AND THEN GO IN.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S PER THEIR, THAT'S PER THEIR STANDARD.

THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A COMMON APPLICATION PROJECTS OFTEN.

DO THEY USE, I GUESS, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A HASSLE.

IF YOU HAVE TO OPEN UP THE LOCKBOX AND THEN GET THE KEY AND THEN OPEN UP THE GATE AND THEN TRY TO GET IN AS FAST AS YOU CAN, WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER

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I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN ON COMMUNITIES AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE FIREMAN JUMP OUT OF THERE, THEY'RE ON THAT THING AND IN SECONDS.

SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRAINED FOR THAT.

THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A UNIQUE, UH, APPLICATION.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE SEE ON PROJECTS, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, CALIFORNIA.

I SEE.

I GUESS.

UM, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING TRASH.

IT SEEMS LIKE ALL RESIDENTS SEEMS TO THINK THAT THE TRASH IS PUTTING OUT ON THE STREET AND ROLAND, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT AND GET INTO DETAILS ABOUT THE TRASH AND THE TRASH CAN AND ON A TRASH DAY? YEAH.

AND, AND AGAIN, I, I, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRASH WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO OUT ONTO ROLLING.

I MEAN, THAT SIMPLY WOULD NOT BE, UM, UH, ONE OF THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR THESE OWNERS.

SO, UH, THE TWO OPTIONS, UH, LIKELY, AND, AND THESE ARE OFTEN AT THE DISCRETION OF, I BELIEVE ATHENS IS THE, UH, PROVIDER, UH, HERE IN THE CITY, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE TRUCKS ARE WILLING TO ACTUALLY, UM, UH, GO IN AND BACK OUT OF THE MOTOR COURTS AND OTHERS REQUIRE, UH, THAT THEY ARE PULLED OUT TO THE, TO THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PULLED OUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE NIGHT BEFORE AND THEN TAKEN IN THE DAY OF, SO THEY'RE NOT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE STAYING OUT THERE FOR DAYS ON END.

AND LIKE I SAID, IN SOME CASES, THE, UM, THE ATHENS TRUCKS OR, OR THE OTHER, UH, SERVICE PROVIDERS, THEY ACTUALLY WILL GO INTO THE OLDEST SAXON OR INTO THE, UH, AUTO COURTS AND THEN BACK, UH, BACK OUT AGAIN.

SO IT'S REALLY AT THEIR DISCRETION, BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, WOULD THERE BE TRASH RECEPTACLES PULLED OUT TO ROLLING.

SO, AS I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, THE TRASH CONTAINER WILL BE IN EACH INDIVIDUAL UNITS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IN THE GARAGE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEN ON THE TRASH DAY, THEY'LL PULL OUT AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO THE GARAGE IS THAT IT'LL EITHER BE OUT OF THE GARAGE OR PULLED OUT TO THE, TO THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE, THOSE OF YOU INSIDE, INSIDE THE, THE COMMUNITY RIGHT OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY.

BUT CAN YOU USE YOUR LASER AND POINT IT TO WHICH STREET THAT THE TRASH CAN IS GOING TO BE IN SO THAT OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD KNOW WHERE, OH, SO THIS WOULD BE EITHER IN THIS MAIN AISLE HERE OR INTO THE, INTO THE LITTLE AUTO COURTS.

ONE OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS WOULD BE WHERE THE, UH, TRASH RECEPTACLES WOULD BE, UH, PULLED OUT AGAIN THE NIGHT BEFORE AND THEN TAKEN IN THE DAY OF IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WORKS.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO, TO THIS SITE.

THE BENEFIT YOU WOULD HAVE HERE IS YOU HAVE ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE CAN'T LEAVE THEIR, UH, THEIR TRASH RECEPTACLES JUST OUT HERE, STAYING, UH, YOU KNOW, OVERNIGHT FOR, FOR MULTIPLE DAYS.

LIKE WE SEE IN A LOT OF, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS WITHOUT THE, UH, UH, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL US THAT THE TRASH CAN WILL BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE EACH UNIT WHEN THEY PULL OUT OF THE GARAGE.

YOU WANT EITHER BE NEXT TO THEIR UNITS, OR THEY WILL BE PULLED OUT TO THE MAIN DRIVE AISLE.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS, UM, WOULD THIS PROJECT BE SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU JUST COMPLETED IN POMONA? NO.

THIS IS A, THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT PROJECT.

THE ONLY, THE ONLY SIMILARITY I WAS TRYING WAS JUST IN THAT CLUSTER TYPE WHERE, UM, THERE'S A HIGHER DENSITY NEXT TO EXISTING, UH, PROJECTS, UH, AND IN HOMES, OLDER HOMES THAT ARE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT THE ACTUAL PRODUCT HERE IS DIFFERENT.

NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING AND LOOKING AT YOUR PLANS FOR THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED CONDOS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE 25 FEET OR 27 AND A HALF FEET IN HEIGHT.

THEY, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS, UM, THAT, SO THERE'LL BE SOME THAT ARE AT THE 25 AND SOME THAT ARE AT, I THINK, 26 SEVEN.

UM, BUT YEAH, THAT WILL BE THE THRESHOLD FOR THOSE.

AND THEN FOR THE TOWNHOUSES WHERE YOU HAVE THE FIVE OR THE SIX PLEX, THEY ALL RANGE ANYWHERE FROM WHAT, 40 AND A HALF, OR LIKE 36.

AND I BELIEVE UP TO AROUND JUST OVER 40, LIKE 40 FOOT SIX INCHES.

TWO OR THREE FEET HIGHER.

WHEN I LOOKED AT THE TENTATIVE TRACK MAP, I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE SOME GREAT DIFFERENCES TO HANDLE DRAINAGE, AND IT LOOKED LIKE, UM, THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH, THAT THERE MAY BE A RISE IN THE PAD FROM ANYWHERE FROM TWO FEET TO THREE FEET.

SO IF THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS ARE 25 FEET OR 27 OR 26, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL

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CORRECT.

WE'RE GOING TO GRADE THE SITE.

SO THIS SITE IS VERY, VERY FLAT, UH, OVERALL, AND IT'S IN ITS FINISHED CONDITION.

SO THERE WON'T BE MUCH, UH, CHANGE IN ELEVATION, UH, IN THE PRODUCT.

BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT MEASUREMENT THAT I'M GIVING YOU A COURSE IS FROM GREG.

HAD YOU, WHEN YOU GUYS LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONSIDERING THE SIZE OF THE SITE BEING 9.14 ACRES, THAT YOU LOOKED AT ANY OTHER TYPES OF MULTIPLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS FOR THAT SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT OTHER, OTHER PRODUCT TYPES, THEY WERE, THEY WERE SIMILAR, THEY WERE OTHER CLUSTER STYLE.

WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHERS THAT HAD, UM, OTHER ATTACHED, UH, PRODUCT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, THE THRESHOLD THAT WE WERE KEEPING WITHIN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED, 158, UH, UNITS.

AND I KNOW THE DANCE THAT HAS BEEN THROWN AROUND AS BEING AS MUCH AS 20 HERE.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT 20 IT'S 17 PLUS.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE DID LOOK AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, PRODUCTS HERE AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST THE BEST FIT.

AND AGAIN, I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH WHAT WE'RE DOING NORMALLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING INTO AN INFILL OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS, AND THIS TRULY IS AN INFILL.

AND WHEN WE'RE SURROUNDED BY YOUR VARYING PRODUCT ON ALL SIDES, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GET A PRODUCT TO BLEND AND MAKE THE TRANSITION AT LEAST PURPOSEFULLY IN THOSE INFILL LOCATIONS.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY EASY ONCE YOU HAVE A BLANK SLATE TO WORK WITH, BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD DO.

I MEAN, YOU WOULD HAVE A IN FACT, THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THIS LOCATION IS MAYBE APARTMENTS UP NEXT TO THE, UH, COMMERCIAL AS A, AS A TRANSITION.

WHEREAS HERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS, UH, AN APPROPRIATE FIT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ATTACHED TOWNHOMES, UH, IT MAKES IT A GOOD TRANSITION.

AND WHEN YOU GO INTO SOMETHING LESS DENSE IN THE DETACH CLUSTER HOMES, AND THEN YOU TRANSITION INTO YOUR SINGLE FAMILY, TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW MUCH OF THE CONDOS GOING FOR ON AVERAGE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT I ALWAYS HATE TO, UM, HATE TO SPECULATE AND SPECULATE ON WHERE PRICES, UH, WILL WE'LL SETTLE OUT ONCE THINGS ARE, ARE OPEN.

UM, BUT I THINK UPPER FOURS, LOW FIVES FOR THE, FOR THE TOWNS, UH, STARTING, UH, UP TO, UH, PROBABLY THE MID SIX HUNDREDS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE CLUSTERS.

CAN I ASK WHY THAT THE ZONING A RESIDENT ASKED WHY THE ZONING HAD TO CHANGE? WELL, WE, WE PROCESSED A PLAN, BUT I MEAN, THE, WHAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER IS JUST THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, HOME, YOU KNOW, JUST WAS NOT A VIABLE FIT FOR THIS LOCATION.

I MEAN, FOR A NUMBER OF FACTORS, ONE THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE TO, UH, THE ADJACENT, UH, USE, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL, BUT THEN JUST ECONOMIC BUYABILITY, THERE'S JUST NOT, YOU JUST CAN'T, UH, DRIVE THE VALUE OF HIGH ENOUGH WITH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, AT LEAST NOT IN A TRADITIONAL CONFIGURATION AND STILL HAVE A VIABLE PROJECT, UM, URGENT CONDOS AND TOWN HOMES STILL, UH, ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

AND ALSO HAVE SOME INFILTRATION, UH, UH, PIPE IN THOSE AREAS AND THAT WHAT THAT WILL DO IT'S CORRUGATED, AND THAT WILL ALLOW THE WATER BASICALLY TO SLOW DOWN.

SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE ZONING, I MEAN, DOES THAT, INSTEAD OF, UH, YOU DO HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN AS OPPOSED TO THE, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY OCCUPIED THIS SITE.

SORRY.

UM, QUITE A FEW RESIDENT HAD MENTIONED, WE GOT IN THE DRAINAGE.

CAN YOU, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THE MEDICATIONS WILL BE TAKEN TO CONSIDERATIONS WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING IT.

AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE UNDER THE PARKING AREA.

UM, WHEN YOU SAID MITIGATIONS, CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT MITIGATION.

I'M MOSTLY JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ON THIS, ON THIS SITE.

THERE ARE A COUPLE PROBLEMS THOUGH.

THERE'S A, A LOT OF FLOW THAT COMES OFF THIS PROPERTY UP HERE TO THE NORTH, RIGHT NOW, IT COMES DOWN THROUGH, MOVES DOWN THROUGH THIS AREA.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A FLOODING CONDITION THAT HAPPENS HERE.

AND THEN THE WATER, THEN THE WATER COMES DOWN AND CREATES ANOTHER FLOODING CONDITION DOWN HERE.

WE'RE INTERCEPTING THAT WATER HERE IN THE CUL-DE-SAC AND THEN RUNNING IT DOWN THROUGH PROJECT.

AND WE'RE IMPLEMENTING SOME BASINS HERE TO INTERCEPT THAT AND METER THE WATER OUT.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE PARKING OVER HERE IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL IS THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IN THE UNDERGROUND, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE SEPARATE INTRACT, UH, STORM DRAIN SYSTEM, SO THAT WE CAN RUN THE RUN, THE UNDERGROUND, UH, UNITS HERE

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SO IT'S NOT JUST SHOOTING ACROSS THE STRIPE, THE SITE AND DUMPING OUT ONTO ROLAND.

IT'S BASICALLY GETTING METERED OUT AND WE'RE DRAWING IT OUT SO THAT IT'S RELEASED OVER A 48 HOUR PERIOD.

AND THAT WAY YOU'RE PAST THE STORM EVENT.

AND IT'S NOT, YOU'RE CREATING, I I'VE, I'VE SEEN WHAT, UH, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WAS, UH, TALKING ABOUT, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE WATER ALREADY GETS UP CLOSE TO THE TOP OF THE CURVE ON, ON ROLLING.

SO THAT'S NOT A CONDITION, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE CONTRIBUTING, THAT'S AN EXISTING, UH, CONDITION.

UH, THAT'S OUT THERE ON, ON ROLLING, AS IT STANDS TODAY.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND STILL, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW, UM, HOW THE WATER AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT DOWN TO THE STREET BELOW THE STREET LEVEL.

I MEAN, IS THERE LIKE A, A TANK OR SOME SORT OF STUFF IT'S UNDERGROUND, IT'S UNDERGROUND PIPE, LIKE 60 INCH PIPE THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THOSE, UH, PARKING AREAS.

THAT'S EXACTLY.

I'M SORRY, HOW WIDE, LIKE, IT'LL BE LIKE 60 INCH PIPE THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THERE.

16 INCHES BY 60, YEAH, THEY'RE LARGE FIVE FEET AREN'T SO THEY HAVE CAPACITY TO STORE WATER AND ALLOW INFILTRATION AS IT MOVES THROUGH, MOVES FOR THE SITE FROM A NORTH NORTHWEST.

SO YOU'RE BASICALLY TAKING ALL THE WATER ON THE SURFACE, BASICALLY HAVING THE SIX FEET OR FIVE FEET, 60 INCHES IS FIVE FEET TALL.

WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE THINGS? I COMPLETELY FORGOT PIPE CONCRETE PIPE DOWN UNDERGROUND.

SO THE WATER KIND OF SIT THERE AND SLOWLY FALL.

IS IT A PUMP SYSTEM, A GRAVITY, A SYSTEM THAT IT'S A GRAVITY SYSTEM.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A SYSTEM THAT WILL OCCUR, UH, IN THE PARKING AREA THERE ON THE FRONT.

THAT WILL BE A SWITCHBACK OF CHAMBERS THAT ALSO AGAIN, PROVIDE THE SAME, UH, WATER, WATER RETENTION, SO THAT WE'RE JUST NOT HAVING THE, THE SHEET FLOW.

SO WOULD THAT TAKE CARE OF ALL? UM, WOULD YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR HYDROLOGISTS HAVE BEEN DONE THE STUDY TO SEE IF THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S ALL IS THE RIGHT TERM, UM, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT SITE AND ALSO FROM THE EXISTING WATERFALL CURRENTLY, I MEAN, AFTER DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL USE, CONTINUE TO SEE A LOT OF WATER, LIKE THE, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO EMBEDDING, WE'RE GOING TO PROVE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

SO THE, IT WILL BE BETTER THAN THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT CONDITION THAT EXISTS TODAY.

WHAT I CAN'T TELL YOU IS THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE WHAT YOU SEE OUT ON ROLLING, UH, BETTER, BECAUSE I HAVE, I HAVE A FEELING THAT ROLAND HAS A PROBLEM INDEPENDENT OF THIS, UH, PROJECT AND BEING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTING LESS VOLUME IN A STORM EVENT, TROLLING.

IT SHOULD ONLY IMPROVE THINGS, WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE A VISIBLE IMPROVEMENT.

YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T COMMUNICATE THAT TO YOU, BUT THERE WILL BE LESS WATER THAT'S BEING CONTRIBUTED INTO ROLAND DURING THE STORM EVENT THAN THERE IS NOW AS THE SITE STANDS IN ITS IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION.

I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT CAN WE CALL FOR LIKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? I HAVE TO USE THE RESTROOM.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

YOU GUYS MIND CALLING FOR A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK FOR NOW.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

AND THANKS FOR THE BREAK.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ALL, UM, MEETINGS, SO PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS AND OKAY.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS, UM, QUESTIONS WHILE APPLICANT? YES.

BRIAN, GO AHEAD.

UH, SO ON.

SO, UM, DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S, IT'LL BE, UM, DO YOU BELIEVE THERE'LL BE ANY FINANCIAL BURDEN IF YOU WERE WILLING TO, AS AN IDEA, UH, INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE, UH, TO INCLUDE THE, UM, THE BUSHY WALLS IN, IN THAT QUARTER SACK AREA? WELL, I THINK WE COULD, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, UM, I THINK THAT'S A REALISTIC SOLUTION THERE.

AND FOR TWO THINGS, I THINK THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS A, UH, STANDING, UM, REQUIREMENTS, SOME OF THE WALLS WE COVERED WITH IVY OR SOMETHING.

SO I THINK THAT'LL ACCOMPLISH THAT SAME GOAL ONLY WITH WHAT I THINK IS MUCH BETTER PLANT MATERIAL.

OKAY, PERFECT.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, I KNOW SOME OF THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING RIGHT IN FRONT ON A ROLLING.

AND I THINK, UM, I THINK A POSSIBLE SOLUTION CAN BE, UH, ADDING SOME, UH, DINA CALLED HA HA HEDGE, UH, LIKE A SMALL, LIKE A F THREE FEET HEDGE, UH, RIGHT THERE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE AS WELL? YEAH, I THINK WE, I THINK WE HAVE ROOM THERE AND THAT, THAT WHOLE FRONT IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED ALSO BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

SO WE COULD CERTAINLY INCORPORATE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, PLANT MATERIAL ALONG THAT FRONT AS A BUFFER.

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I ALSO HAD SOME, SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UH, THE PARKING AREA AND, AND, UH, WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT INTO YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES AS TO WHY THAT ONE AREA IS THE ONLY AREA WHERE THERE IS A PARKING LOT ON THE MAIN STREET.

SO, SO IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT INTO, INTO THE WHY BEHIND THAT, IS IT, IT, IT IS UNUSUAL RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THE PROJECT.

HONESTLY, THE, THE ORIGINAL SOLUTION FOR THE STORM DRAIN WAS TO BRING THE STORM DRAIN DOWN THERE.

THIS SITE IS SO FLAT, RIGHT? SO THAT WAS WHERE WE WERE, UH, PUTTING THE PIPES IN TO, UH, CAPTURE THE DRAINAGE THAT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE ENOUGH, WHICH IS WHY WE NOW HAVE PIPES RUNNING UP THE, UH, WESTERN DRIVEWAY AND UNDERNEATH THOSE PARKING STALLS AS WELL.

THAT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CRITICAL DRIVERS.

I MEAN, THE WATER OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO COME DOWN AND BE CAPTURED AT THAT LOWER LOCATION BEING, UH, HOW FLAT THIS SITE IS AND GETTING EVERYTHING TO DRAIN AND NOT CONTRIBUTE, UH, TO THE PROBLEM OUT ON ROLLING.

THAT WAS REALLY THE BEST SOLUTION OUR ENGINEER, UH, CAME UP WITH.

GOT IT.

SO, SO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE TO BASICALLY FLIP WHERE THE, UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A FIVEPLEX THERE, BUT THE FIVEPLEX IN AND PUT IT, YOU KNOW, STREET ADJACENT AS OPPOSED TO WHERE THE PARKING, UH, CURRENTLY IS.

YEAH, RIGHT.

NO, THAT'S IN TERMS OF THE HYDROLOGY, IT JUST WASN'T WORKING, UH, WITH THAT CONFIGURATION.

ALL RIGHT.

UNDERSTOOD.

BUT I DO THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO, UH, WITH VEGETATION TO, TO SOFTEN THAT, UM, AS YOU'RE GOING BY, UH, THE FRONT EDGE THERE, SO THAT IT'S, UH, MITIGATED EVEN FURTHER, AT LEAST VISUALLY UNDERSTOOD.

AND THEN ON THE, UH, ON, ON THE NORTH, UH, ON THE NORTH AND THE, IN THE EASTERN SIDES, UM, I, I, I HAD A QUESTION.

THOSE ARE, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DRAWN AS, UH, AS JUST SIX FOOT WALLS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE, UH, UM, TO THE, UH, UH, COMMERCIAL SITES THERE.

UM, QUITE, QUITE FRANKLY, I, I HAVE, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT BEING A, A, JUST, JUST GIVEN THE, I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ACCESS POINT FOR, FOR, UH, MEMORY CERTAINLY, RIGHT.

LIKE AN ALLEY BACK THERE.

UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE VIABILITY OF JUST A SIX FOOT WALL THERE.

UM, AND THE FACT, THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY, UH, UM, THERE THERE'S ANY SCREENING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THERE EITHER.

UM, I, I WAS CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A SEVEN FOOT WALL THERE, UM, OR POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT, UH, AT, AND POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT PUTTING SCREENING THERE.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE WITH THE, WITH THE VERY LIMITED SETBACKS THAT ARE THERE.

UM, CAN, CAN YOU TELL ME JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHAT IS THE SETBACK THERE? YEAH, I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.

UM, I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SCREENING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME TYPE OF VEGETATION MATERIAL.

SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HAD, UM, THAT LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, YOU COULD, YOU COULD DO THE, UH, THE, THE, THE PORT OF CARPUS, THAT'S A, THAT'S LIKE ON THE, UH, THE, THE NORTH, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NORTHWESTERN AND THE, UH, AND THE WESTERN SIDE, BUT I, QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK IT WOULD, IT WOULD GO MORE FOR UNIFORMITY IF, IF IT'S, UH, IF IT SURROUNDS THE ENTIRETY OF THE, OF THE, UH, OF THE SITE.

UM, AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, UM, WITH REGARD TO THAT COMMERCIAL AREA, UM, YOU PROBABLY WANT, AT LEAST IN THAT AREA IN PARTICULAR, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE TALLER FENCING.

I MEAN, JUST AS A, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH YOU.

ONE, ONE THING THAT WE DID INCORPORATED INTO THE LAST ROUND OF THIS SPECIFIC PLANT CAUSE ORIGINALLY WAS, UH, ONLY ALLOWING A SIX FOOT WALL WAS TO INCREASE THAT.

SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS SOMETHING I JUST, IN TALKING TO SOME OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, EVEN, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HOP THAT FENCE OVER THERE AND THEN TRAVERSE ACROSS THE PROPERTY.

SO WE, WE COULD, WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT INCREASING THAT WALL TO SEVEN FEET ALONG THAT ENTIRE BOUNDARY AND THAT THAT ENTIRE WALL IS GOING TO COME OUT.

UM, I DID REACH OUT TO THE, UH, THE RETAIL, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER THERE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE NOTICED, BUT THOSE FICUS TREES THAT ARE, UH, UP NEXT TO THAT, NOT ONLY ARE THEY AN ABSOLUTE MESS AND BUCKLING EVERYTHING OVER THERE, BUT THEY ARE STARTING TO PRESS ON THAT WALL.

SO WE'RE, UH, GOING TO TAKE THAT ENTIRE STRETCH OUT.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN REPLACE THAT WITH A SEVEN FOOT BALL INSTEAD OF A SIX FOOT BALL.

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UM, ALSO HAVE CONCERN REGARDING THE WALLS AND THEY DO WANT IT TO RAISE UP HIGHER BECAUSE SIX FOOT CAUSE SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENT IN, UM, A GATED COMMUNITY, A LOT OF TIME, I'VE SEEN THAT THEY HAVE, UM, TALLER WALLS.

SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUES, UM, AND, AND, AND HELP THEM.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL, AND IT DEPENDS, I MEAN, IF I'M FIVE FEET, I'M NOT GOING TO SEE MY NEIGHBORS, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE YOU, YOURSELF PROBABLY CAN'T LOOK OVER THE NEIGHBORS.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ISSUES, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF ZOOM CALLS AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS TONIGHT HERE HAS A LOT OF CONCERN REGARDING THE WALLS THAT I'M LOOKING INTO THEIR PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE SO USED TO NOT HAVING NEIGHBORS IN THE PAST.

SO IF YOU CAN PERHAPS INCREASE ALL THE NEIGHBOR AREAS TO EIGHT FOOT, SO THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES CARE OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE DRAINAGE, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU PARKING PARKING AT THE FRONT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE NEIGHBORS DO NOT LIKE THE PARKING UP IN THE FRONT, BECAUSE IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A COMMERCIAL.

NOW, IN TERMS OF JOINING, YOU HAVE A PARK IN THE BACK, CAN YOU LIFT, SHIFT ALL YOUR BUILDING TO THE FRONT AND THEN HAVE THAT PARKING RIGHT WHERE THE BUILDING WAS AT, LIKE REVERSE IT.

AND CAN YOU, YOU KNOW, HYDROLOGY, SOMETIMES YOU CAN USE PUMP WHAT HAVE USED TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR MITIGATIONS REGARDING YOUR DRAINAGE AND WATER ISSUES, IF THAT WORKS FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

AND IF THAT MAKES THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE IT LIKE A COMMERCIAL INSTEAD OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, AND I DON'T THINK FULLY A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AND THE ISSUES THERE.

I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT SEEN THERE BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT I'VE HAVE SEEN THAT WHEN THERE'S ENUMERATED WITH WATER, YOU CAN HYDROPLANE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON ROLAND.

SO THAT'S CAN BE A SCARY, UM, ISSUE.

BUT IF YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT ALSO, I DON'T THINK THE NEIGHBORS, MAYBE YOU SHOULD ADDRESS THIS CONCERNS TO THE NEIGHBORS IS THAT THEY DON'T, THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT YOU ARE MITIGATING BY PUTTING A FIVE FOOT PIPE UNDERGROUND, WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT WATER, OR AT LEAST ALL THE DEVELOPMENT, WATER GOING THERE.

AND SOME FROM A PROPERTY COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY JUST THINK THAT YOU'RE JUST BUILDING A BUNCH OF HOUSES ON HERE VERSUS NOT.

AND THEN YOU'RE JUST MAKING A WHOLE BUNCH MORE WATER BECAUSE IT'S ALL CONCRETE.

IT IS TRUE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL CONCRETE, BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING THE NEIGHBORS THAT YOU'RE TAKING A NEW GROUND AND YOU HAVE A PARK, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT A LOT OF WATER UNDER THAT POCKET AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HYDROLOGY DOES, BUT THEY CAN ACTUALLY PUT A LOT OF PIPE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

UH, SERVES AS A RETAINING CONDITION AS WELL.

AND WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.

IT'S JUST IN A CHALLENGING, UH, LOCATION, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE RESPONSES THAT WE INCLUDED, UH, TO THE, UH, M AND D, WHEN WE, WHEN WE RECEIVED THE RESPONSES, WE DID INCLUDE, UH, SOME OF THOSE, UH, TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT ASK ABOUT DRAINAGE.

AND WE LET THEM KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE DOING, UH, WITH SOME OF THOSE SOLUTIONS.

SO WE DID TRY TO CONVEY THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH QUITE A FEW HOMEOWNERS OVER THE COURSE OF WORKING THROUGH THIS PROJECT.

THERE WERE ALSO A FEW THAT DIDN'T WANT TO MEET.

THEY, THEY WANTED TO COME ADDRESS THIS IN PUBLIC FORUM.

THEY SPECIFICALLY TOLD ME THEY DID NOT WANT TO TALK TO ME OUTSIDE OF, UH, UH, A PUBLIC VENUE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I RESPECT THAT.

I KNOW WE'RE IN SOME UNUSUAL TIMES RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF, UH, DEALING WITH THE, WITH THE DRAINAGE, I MEAN, THAT'S, WE, THE ONLY OTHER LOCATION WE LOOKED AT WAS MOVING OVER HERE, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BASICALLY JUST CHANGING THAT FROM HERE TO HERE, BUT THAT REALLY TURNED OUT NOT TO BE A VIABLE SOLUTION.

AND I JUST CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE'VE BEATEN UP THE HYDRAULIC IS.

HYDROLOGY HAS PROBABLY BEEN ONE OF THE MOST COMPLICATED, UH, CHALLENGES WITH THIS SITE IN TERMS OF, OF SOLUTIONS.

UM, AS FAR AS THESE, THE OWNERS ON THIS SIDE, I'VE MET WITH ALMOST EVERYONE, EXCEPT FOR THESE PEOPLE DOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM AND THE PEOPLE ON THE NORTH SIDE, THEY'RE ABOVE THE CULDESAC.

ALMOST ALL OF THEM WANT TO KEEP THEIR EXISTING WALL, WHICH IS PROBABLY BETWEEN SIX AND SIX, SIX AND A HALF FEET.

UH, IN MOST CASES THEY DON'T WANT US TOUCHING THEIR WALL.

SO THE, THE HOMEOWNER THAT WAS HERE, UH, TONIGHT, I BELIEVE LIVES IN THIS HOME.

UM, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO HER A COUPLE OF TIMES.

HER WALL CAN DEFINITELY BE TALLER.

SHE HAS A UNIQUE SITUATION.

IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S ACTUALLY A DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT RUNS ALONG JUST OUTSIDE OF HER PROPERTY.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY,

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SO THERE'S ACTUALLY ALMOST LIKE A HIGH CURB WITH SOME RETAINING AND THEN THE WALL ON TOP OF THAT.

SO I'VE TALKED TO THE GENTLEMAN ACROSS THE STREET AND HE SAID, SHE'S OPEN TO OUR SOLUTION.

SHE JUST HASN'T FOR WHATEVER REASON, W W WE'VE REACHED OUT, SHE JUST HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT WITH US.

I WAS ACTUALLY OUT ON SITE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

UM, I WAS TRYING TO MEET WITH HER AFTER I MET WITH THE GENTLEMAN ACROSS STREET, AND SHE HAD TO PULL OFF AND SAID SHE HAD AN APPOINTMENT.

AND, UH, WE'VE AGAIN, I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF EMAILS TO HER.

WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION FOR HER AT THIS LOCATION BY INCREASING THE HEIGHT OF THAT WALL, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE WINDOWS.

SO I REALLY DO THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO SOLVE HER SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT THAT WAS THE ONE WHO WAS, WHO WAS SPEAKING TONIGHT.

AND I THINK SHE WAS ON THE PHONE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

UM, YEAH, W WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO HER MULTIPLE TIMES AND I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BEING ABLE TO SHOW HER THAT AND LET HER KNOW THAT, HEY, WE THINK WE CAN MAKE A BETTER SOLUTION.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE A PROBLEM HERE OR COMPROMISE ANYTHING YOU HAVE WORKING.

WE THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.

AND AS I SAID, I ASKED HER NEIGHBOR TO PUT THAT IN FRONT OF HER TOO.

AND SHE DID TELL HIM, UH, YEAH, I KNOW HE'S EMAILED ME.

I HAVEN'T REACHED AND REACHED OUT TO HIM.

I THINK SHE WANTED TO GET ALL OF HER FACTS TOGETHER.

UM, BUT HOPEFULLY, UH, I THINK WE CAN DO SOMETHING THERE.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE INCREASING THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL AROUND THE CUL-DE-SAC, SO WE CAN CONTINUE THAT TALLER WALL ACROSS THAT NORTHERN AREA THERE.

AND I THINK COME UP WITH A PRETTY GOOD SOLUTION.

I LIKE TO SEE THAT, SEE IF YOU CAN LISTEN TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS TONIGHT AND WORK WITH THEM TO SEE IF YOU CAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS, WHETHER IT'S A SIMPLE EXPLANATIONS OR REGARDING WALLS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT ANOTHER CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE IS REGARDING PRIVATES.

UH, NOT SO MUCH A PRIVATE SPACE, BUT OPEN SPACE.

UM, I KNOW THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE SOME AREA, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAS A PRIVATE SPACE.

IT SEEMS LIKE.

UM, AND THEN THE OPEN SPACE, UM, THE PARK 150 SOMETHING PEOPLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS, IS A BIT SMALL.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN INCORPORATE SOME TYPE OF PRIVATE SPACE OR OPEN SPACE? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU TRY WITH THE BALCONY.

UM, UM, BUT SOME DO NOT HAVE, EVEN THAT, I MEAN, THERE'S A SMOKER'S DAY TO GO OUT THERE AND I DUNNO, BUT I DON'T SMOKE, BUT, UM, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE, THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY PACKED AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO, UM, AT LEAST ADDRESS SOME OF THE PRIVATE, HOW MUCH PRIVATE SPACE ARE YOU GIVING EACH UNIT? I MEAN, AS, AS, UM, WAS POINTED OUT IN THE EARLIER PRESENTATION, I MEAN, SOME OF THEM ARE DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, 150 200 FEET.

SOME OF THEM WERE OVER A THOUSAND.

YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE, UM, END UNITS.

THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF A PRIVATE SPACE IN THEM, OTHERS, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A VERY SMALL AREA BETWEEN THE UNITS OR PORCHES AND COURTYARDS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THERE'S A PRETTY WIDE VARIETY OF PRIVATE SPACE DEPENDING ON, UH, YOUR UNIT WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE END UNITS OBVIOUSLY BENEFITED AS, AS THEY DO WITH ALL PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I LIVED IN A, IN AN END UNIT FOR, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND I HAD ACTUALLY A NICE LITTLE YARD BEING ON THAT END UNIT COMPARED TO MY NEIGHBORS.

UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS A, A LIFESTYLE CHOICE.

PEOPLE THAT, THAT BUY IN THESE COMMUNITIES, AREN'T LOOKING FOR A YARD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN.

THEY DON'T WANT THAT OBLIGATION.

THIS, THIS PROJECT IS, YOU KNOW, 90% MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

THEY HAVE THEIR PARK THERE WHERE THEY CAN WALK AND TAKE THEIR DOG, GET A LITTLE BIT OF EXERCISE, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, THEY'RE A, YOU KNOW, WORK A LOT OF HOURS.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A CLOSE LOCATION, UH, TO THEIR OFFICE.

AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY A LIFESTYLE CHOICE.

THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT, UH, BIG PRIVATE YARD.

I KNOW THAT'S FOREIGN TO A LOT OF US.

I KNOW IT'S FOREIGN TO A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A MORE EXPANSIVE YARDS.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S JUST A, A CHANGING DYNAMIC WITH, UH, WITH THE BUYERS TODAY.

UM, IT'S GETTING A PUDDLE, I THINK WE NEED TO EITHER VOTE TO CONTINUE, UM, I'LL MEETINGS TOO.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, OKAY.

HOUSING PROJECT? DOES IT MEET THE STATE MANDATE THAT AS A CITY, WE ARE OBLIGATED UNDER LAW TO CREATE MORE HOUSING PROJECTS? DOES THAT, WILL THIS PROJECT MEET THAT STANDARD? SO, YES.

UM, I MISS IT, I MEAN, MY QUESTION COULD BE FOR YOU OR CITY STAFF, UH, DOES THIS PROJECT MEET THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT'S MANDATED BY STATE LAW, THIS

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UM, THIS PROJECT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO, UM, I BELIEVE THE CITY OF WEST COVINA WAS ASSIGNED, UM, OVER 1,300 HOUSING UNITS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO SUPPLY BETWEEN 2001 IN 2012, OR SORRY, 2021 IN 2029.

UM, AND SO THIS'LL BE 158 UNITS THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THAT AMOUNT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, BASED UPON THE DEVELOPER'S COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY IN INVESTING THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT HE, THAT MR. LEWIS HAS COMMITTED TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S SHOWN DO YOUR, DO YOUR PUBLIC SPEAKING TODAY AND IN THE COMMITMENTS YOU MADE TODAY.

AND, AND SO, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, AS A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, UM, WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER LEWIS, HIS RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE WALL WHERE THE COMMERCIAL AREA ZONING AREA OVER THERE, UH, TO, UH, DID YOU SAY IT INCREASED IT BY SEVEN FEET? IS THIS 30 FEET? SEVEN FEET? YEAH.

SO TO INCREASE IT TO SEVEN FEE IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING AREA, UM, AND ALSO COMMIT TO THE, THE DINNER, THE DEN, THE DEAD, THE CUL-DE-SAC AREA ON EILEEN STREET, UH, TO COMMIT TO THE GREENER ENTERING THE, ADDING THE GREENERY THERE.

UM, I THINK, UH, UH, WAS THE CORPORATE CAUCUS TREES, THE BRANCH, THE BUSHES BACK THERE TO MATCH THAT AREA, UH, AND ALSO, UH, COMMITTED TO PUTTING SOME, A HEDGE BUSHES IN THE PARKING AREA, WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE, UH, THE PUBLIC'S VIEW FROM VEHICLES ARE PARKED THERE.

THEN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS PROJECT WITH THOSE, UH, CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OR THE CONDITIONS THAT I STATED.

AND COMMISSIONER LEWIS, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

SO I, ACTUALLY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION OR BASICALLY BASICALLY ADJOURNED BY, UH, BY 11.

AND I, I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT.

AND SO, UM, I I'M, THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE ASPECTS OF, OF, UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, HIS MOTION THAT, THAT I, THAT I AGREE WITH, THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME, UH, SOME QUESTIONS THAT, THAT I HAVE, AND I FEEL LIKE, UH, I WOULD BE, UH, CHANGING ALL OF THE INPUT THAT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS GAVE US TONIGHT.

UH, IF I, IF I SHORTCUTTED THE CONVERSATION HERE.

UM, SO, UH, I W WHAT, WHILE I'M, I'M NOT, UH, I I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE AT THIS JUNCTURE, UM, THAT WILL HOPEFULLY GIVE THE APPLICANT ADDITIONAL TIME TO REACH OUT TO RESIDENTS HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, UM, WHICH, WHICH I, I, I THINK IS PROBABLY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, HOWEVER I DO, I DO HAVE SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, THAT I, THAT I DEFINITELY WANT TO GET TO.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, BECAUSE WE'VE GONE OVER THE, A LOT OF TIME FOR STAFF, UM, I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS, UH, TO, TO THE, UH, NEXT CLOSEST HEARING.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO IT AT THE, UH, THE NEXT MARCH HEARING IF WE HAVE AVAILABILITY, UH, SO THAT WE CAN FINISH UP THE DISCUSSION AND, UH, AND, AND IDEALLY, UH, ADDRESS, UH, AS MANY OF THE RESIDENT'S CONCERNS AS POSSIBLE.

UM, AND, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, HOPEFULLY MOVE FORWARD AMICABLY.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS.

WE HAVE ONE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GLUTEUS TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT WITH SOME OF THE ITEMS. AND THE SECOND MOTION IS BY COMMISSIONER LEWIS TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT TO A DATE THAT WE WILL BE PICKING LATER ON TONIGHT.

SO, UM, WE'RE GOING WITH GUTIERREZ FIRST.

DO I HAVE A SECOND MOTION? IF, UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND MOTION? IF I DON'T HAVE A SECOND MOTION, WE'RE GONNA, UM, UM, WE'RE GONNA VOTE I'M ATARI.

DO I HAVE A SECOND MOTION AND COMMISSIONER LEWIS, UM, UH, MOTIONS TO CONTINUE THIS TO SECOND THAT, SO I HAVE A SECOND.

SO ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

ONLY NOW, UM, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, UM, WAIT, UM, IF YOU CONTINUE TO CONTINUE, YES.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, COMMISSIONER LAWYERS, DO YOU MIND, UH, THAT WE CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT UPCOMING MEETING? I, IF, IF THAT'S AN AMENDMENT TO MY MOTION, I, I AGREE TO THAT AMENDMENT.

OKAY, GREAT.

I THINK WE HAVE TO WORK WITH PAULINA TO SEE WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS LIKE.

SO I THINK SHE DECIDED, UM, IT'S A WIN WHETHER THE SCHEDULE WILL MEET OR NOT.

I BELIEVE WE CAN.

I BELIEVE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.

LET ME THANK YOU.

WELL, THE NEXT MEETING IS MARCH 23RD

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MARCH.

SO I'LL SECOND THAT, AND THEN, OKAY, SO WE'LL JUST, WE'LL START AGAIN.

CONVENTION OR WILLIAMS. HI, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, COMMISSIONER LEWIS, VICE CHAIR, VISCERA CHAIR, HANG AYE.

MOTION IS CONTINUED TO THE NEXT MEETING AND PAULINA.

COULD YOU PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT DATE IT IS? UH, THAT'LL BE, UH, MARCH 23RD.

THERE'S A COUPLE MORE AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING TONIGHT.

AND, UM, ALENA, YOU WILL, UM, ALENA, CAN YOU PUT ON RECORDS, WHICH DATE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTINUE, UM, CENTER MEETING.

CAN YOU LET US KNOW WHEN WE CAN CONTINUE TO, OH, I'M SORRY.

UM, MARCH 23RD, 23RD.

UH, PROJECT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, MOVING ON TO NON HEARING ITEMS, DO WE HAVE ANY NON HEARING ITEMS? UM, COMMISSIONER REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS? UM, NOPE.

NOPE.

NONE HEARING.

DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT PAULINA.

UM, COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. WOULD ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT, LIKES TO MAKE A REPORT OR COMMENT SEEING NONE WILL COMMUNITY

[3. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT]

WILL YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US TONIGHT? UM, THERE ARE SORRY.

UH, NO FORTHCOMING CASES SCHEDULED.

OH, SORRY.

THERE WILL BE, UH, THE CONTINUE TO ITEM FOR THE MARCH 23RD, 2021 MEETING.

AND THEN CITY COUNCIL

[4. CITY COUNCIL ACTION]

ACTIONS.

UM, THE APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 DASH 17 SITE MODIFICATION, 20 DASH ONE.

AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW 20 DASH 30 ON HAULING.

CHRIS DRIVE HAS BEEN APPEALED AND IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL.

I'M SORRY, WHAT THE ADDRESS AGAIN? CAN YOU GIVE IT TO ME AGAIN? SORRY.

THE APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 DASH 17, SLIGHT MODIFICATION, 20 DASH ONE AND SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW 20 DASH 30 ON HAULING CREST DRIVE HAS BEEN APPEALED AND IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL.

OKAY, CYNTHIA.

SO, UM, SINCE THERE IS NO FURTHER BUSINESS CONSIDERED THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED AT THIS TIME, WHICH IS 1111.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.