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WHAT KIND OF WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
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MEETINGS AND THE REGULAR PLAN COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 23RD, 2020 IS CALLED TO ORDER.AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY DIRECTOR REGENTS AND SHELBY WILLIAMS COMMISSIONER SHELBY WILLIAMS WILL BE LEADING US FOR THE FLOOD.
WE HAVE A LOT, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A NEW ROOM FOR ME AND AS OF MARCH FOUR, OKAY.
DUE TO THE COVID, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN A MEETING CAN STILL BE, IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TODAY, IF YOU'RE HAVING A FEVER, I'M JUST GOING TO SUMMARIZE THIS.
AND IF EVERYTHING IS NOT ON THE PAGE AS WELL, SO IF YOU HAVE A FEVER, PLEASE STAY HOME AND, UH, YOU CAN STILL CALL THEN, UM, BEFORE CERTAIN TIMES AT FIVE O'CLOCK OR FOUR 30 AND, UH, PARTICIPATE ON ZOOM OR, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE YOUTUBE? YOU CAN ALSO WATCH THE MEETING THROUGH THAT WAY AS WELL.
SO PLEASE JOIN US THROUGH THAT WAY.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE WITH, UM, A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND JUST TAKE A MOMENT THAT SAYS, UM, I GUESS, UM, SINCE THIS COVID INCIDENTS, THERE'S OVER HALF A MILLION AMERICANS HAS PASSED.
SO IT JUST TOOK A MOMENT FOR THAT.
AND ALSO, UM, MOVED UP THERE FROM BREATH.
AND THEN, UM, PLEASE JOIN SHELBY, BUT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LET'S BEGIN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND TO THE REPUBLIC.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, WE'LL BE DOING MORE COMPLEX COMMISSIONER, THE TIARAS COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, DEAR CHAIR, HANG HERE.
COMMISSIONER LEWIS HERE, COMMISSIONER SARAH HERE.
LET THE RECORDS SHOW THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
AN APPROVAL MINUTES.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTE OF, UH, WE, WE DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM, FROM THE NEIGHBORS OF 12 ZERO EIGHT, POLAND PRESS CALLED WITH ALBERT AND MR. AWRY ASKING FOR CERTAIN THINGS TO BE CERTAIN ITEMS TO BE CORRECTED IN THE MINUTES.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY ASKED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES, BECAUSE OUR MINUTES ARE NOT DEEP ARE NOT E-TAIL MINUTES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASICALLY A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXTENDED VERSION OF ACTUALLY MINUTES AND THEY'RE NOT VERBATIM MINUTES.
HOWEVER, WE WILL CORRECT SOME OF THE ERRORS THAT THEY POINTED OUT.
UM, ONE BEING THAT MR.
HE LIVES 50 FEET ACROSS THE SITE.
AND THEN THE OTHER WAS THAT MR.
HE STATED THAT THE EXISTING HOUSE IS ALREADY 31% LARGER THAN THE AVERAGE SITE ITSELF.
SO WE WERE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MINUTES ARE ACCURATE, SO, OKAY.
WILL THAT BE REFLECTED IN THIS MINUTE OR YOU WILL BE MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS OFF? WELL, IT'LL BE THE COMMISSIONER.
THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER WOULD BE APPROVING THE MINUTES WITH THOSE CHANGES.
SO WITH THOSE STAGES AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENT OR CHANGES
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SEEING THAT THE MATRIX, OH, JOHN YOU'RE 26.GO AHEAD HERE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOCUMENTED.
UM, I SPOKE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I SPOKE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I SENT HER THE EMAIL AND SHE STATED THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE CORRECTING ANY ERRORS.
WERE THE CORRECTIONS OF THE MINUTES.
UM, THERE'S MORE OF THOSE CHANGES OF JERRY AT 26 MINUTES FOR 2021.
SO THAT'S SUBMITTED, UH, WITH THOSE, UM, CORRECTIONS AS JOHN JUST STATED FOR THE RECORD.
HERE WITH THAT, I AM VIRTUALLY HERE
[ORAL COMMUNICATIONS]
FOR COMMUNICATIONS.WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS? I AM.
THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
CHAIR, AND THEN JUST STAND IN FRONT OF THAT TABLE.
UM, THAT CHAIR RIGHT THERE, THE TABLE, IF WE MOVE IT OUT OF THE WAY.
I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU FIRST OFF, AN EMAIL THAT I SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL LAST TUESDAY NIGHT, IT READS AS FOLLOWS AT THEIR MOST RECENT MEETING.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY A THREE TO TWO MARGIN VOTED TO ALLOW AN ENCLOSED PATIO STRUCTURE.
ADDITION THAT WAS BUILT ILLEGALLY WITHOUT PERMITS OR INSPECTIONS.
THE ADDITION IS ALSO NONCOMPLIANCE WITH DESIGN REVIEW GUIDELINES IN THAT IT IS A FULL TWO FEET TALLER THAN THE MAIN HOUSE, WHICH IS THE GUIDING STANDARD DUE TO THE FACT THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ROUTINELY SITE AND FIND PROPERTY OWNERS ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE COMMISSION ALLOWED.
I AM CONCERNED THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE EXPOSED TO LITIGATION BY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN FINED.
ALSO A PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL DOES NOT ABSOLVE THE PROPERTY OWNER OF MEETING, BUILDING AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.
SO WILL THE CITY BE INSPECTING THE WORK TO ENSURE IT IS SAFE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE? ALSO, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONERS LEWIS AND WILLIAMS FOR CORRECTLY VOTING NO ON THIS PROJECT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS TO MAKE.
I AM VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE JUSTIFICATION THAT WAS USED TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
UH, THE LADY WAS ON THE PHONE.
THIS IS REYES, AND SHE INDICATED THAT SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX IT.
SHE CAN'T, UH, SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO MAKE THE CORRECTIONS, BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE.
SHE ALSO INDICATED THAT SHE'S BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BOOSTER CLUB FOR MANY YEARS.
SHE'S BEEN A RESIDENT FOR MANY YEARS AND A VOLUNTEER FOR MANY YEARS.
AND APPARENTLY THIS WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ TO OKAY, THAT THIS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN MY VIEW IS TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE BASED, THAT HAVE OFFERED THE BENEFIT OF THE GREATER GOOD.
THEY ARE NOT TO, FOR THE BENEFIT OF A PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER.
IT ALSO CONCERNS ME THAT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING COMMISSIONED A GOOD TIER IS COMMENTS.
THE CHAIR INDICATED THAT SHE WAS VERY SORRY, AND THAT SHE WAS GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE IT AND HELP YOU TONIGHT WITH THAT.
IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO BAIL PEOPLE OUT.
IF SHE HAD COME IN ORIGINALLY AND GOTTEN THE PERMITS PULLED AND GOTTEN AN INSPECTOR THROUGH THE LINE, SHE WOULDN'T BE IN THE PREDICAMENT SHE HAS.
I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU'RE OPENING UP THE CITY TO POTENTIAL LITIGATION AND A LOT OF IT BECAUSE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY GET, AS I SAID, IN THE EMAIL, THEY GET CITED AND FINED ROUTINELY FOR DOING WHAT YOU APPROVED AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY THAT THEY'VE GOT TO PAY FINES.
WHAT OTHER PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH IT? THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT SOME OF YOU NEED TO LEARN WHAT, WHAT THE JOB IS TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU.
IT'S NOT TO HELP THESE PEOPLE.
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DO FAVORS FOR HOMEOWNERS IN ANTICIPATION OF MAYBE THEY'LL VOTE FOR YOU IN A FUTURE ELECTION.SO THAT THE WAY IT WORKS, YOU'VE GOT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT BY THE ENTIRE CITY.
AND I'LL TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MRS. REYES MADE AN ACCUSATION AT THAT MEETING.
AT THE TIME I WAS MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER HOCKEY, I SERVED AS THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
SHE WAS IN, SHE MET US IN PERSON IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND I REMEMBER IT VERY WELL AS THIS HOCKEY CARES.
SHE MADE AN ACCUSATION THAT WE SAID HER HOUSE WAS AN EYESORE.
BUT IMMEDIATELY AGAIN, FRESHMEN COMMISSIONER,
I WATCHED IT IN PERSON AND I REVIEWED THE TAPE.
I WAS WATCHING AT HOME AND I WAS LIVING.
IF ANYONE'S OVER AN APOLOGY, IT'S MYSELF ON PODCASTS AND NOT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, JUST SOMEBODY, HALF OF THE COMMISSION, YOU GUYS GOTTA GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU APOLOGIZE AND REPRESENT THE ENTIRE CITY WITH YOUR APOLOGY.
PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
CAUSE SHE FLAT OUT LIED AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE.
YOU CANNOT APPROVE THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS, BODY EMOTION.
IF YOU MAKE DECISIONS ON THE BASIS OF YOUR EMOTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO GET SUED AND SUED A LOT.
IT'S NOT YOUR JOB, NOT YOUR JOB TO LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET IN THE WAY YOU GOT TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE FACTS ARE.
LOOK WHAT'S ON THE REPORT AND MAKE A DECISION.
YOU CAN'T REACT BECAUSE THEY'RE A VOLUNTEER.
THEY'VE GOT KIDS, THEY'VE RAISED THEIR KIDS.
IT'S NOT HOW YOU MAKE A RULING.
IT'S NOT EVEN MAKE A DECISION.
YOU GOT TO DO IT BASED ON FACTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER SAYING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS,
[2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 20-07]
PUBLIC HEARINGS CONDITION, USE NUMBER 20,000 ZERO SEVEN.PSYCH MODIFICATION, NUMBER 20 DASH OH ONE.
SO COMMUNITY FOR DESIGNED TO BE WITH $20 36 AND IT'S, UM, LOCATION IS 1208 OUT OF CLASS DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ALSO CONSTRUCTED OF A 1600 1624 SQUARE FOOT.
SECOND STORY ADDITION IS 654 SQUARE FOOT, SINGLE STORY EDITION, 954 SQUARE FOOT, THREE CAR GARAGE TO REPLACE EXISTING FULL AND
TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WE'LL HAVE A TOTAL FULL AREA OF 7,000, 160 SQUARE FOOT EXCEEDING 5,000 SQUARE FOOT, MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE.
SOME OF THOSE VISUAL PRODUCE PERMIT PARCEL.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A SLIGHT MODIFICATION TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM 25 FOOT BUILDING HEIGHTS BY TWO FEET.
AND JOANNE ANDREW WILL BE POTENTIALLY, YES, I WON'T BE GIVING THINGS.
I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE THAT I MIGHT BE TURNING MY BACK TOWARDS SOME OF YOU BECAUSE I DON'T, I CAN'T FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO DO VENDOR PRESENTATION AND ALSO SPEAK GRANTED THE SMALLER VENUE THAT WE'RE IN THIS ITEM WAS LAST HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JANUARY 26 ON THE JOURNEY 26 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT THAT TIME THREE NEIGHBORS SPOKE TO IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH, WITH CONCERNS REGARDING THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY CONTINUED THE ITEM TO TODAY, A DATE CERTAIN WITH DIRECTION TO STAFF AND THE APPLICATION TO THEM, TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, TO, TO RESEARCH AND LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIALLY ADOPTING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO RESTRICT THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY ACCESSORY VOLUME UNIT.
AND ALSO TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING, UH, AT, AT INCLUDING THE GARAGE AND
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THE MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA POPULATION YOU'RE ON THE PROJECTOR AS A TABLE OR THE TABLE OF THE PUMP, THE CURRENT PROJECT DETAILS THE EXISTING HOUSE IN COMPARISON TO THE PREVIOUS DESIGN, THE REVISED DESIGN AND THE MAXIMUM SIZE IN THE SEAT.I USE PREDICT THRESHOLD, ALTHOUGH, ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT WAS NOT DIRECTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS PART OF THE MOTION TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, THEY CAME BACK WITH A SLIGHTLY NICER HOUSE.
THE PREVIOUS HOUSE WAS 7,465 SQUARE FEET.
THEY HAD, THEY HAD REDUCED THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, UM, TO 7,160 SQUARE.
AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, 81 SQUARE FOOT RECEPTION ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND IT'S 224 SQUARE FOOT REDEMPTION STAFF DID LOOK INTO THE LANGUAGE, THE MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING ADDING THE GARAGE TO THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE.
AND IT DOES SAY IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE THAT GARAGES, IF ATTACHED ARE, ARE INCLUDED AT THE MAXIMUM USE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE CALCULATION, AND THIS HAS BEEN PRACTICED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW.
DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL OF, UH, UH, UH, NOT INCLUDING A PUDDING, NOT, NOT ALLOWING AN ACCESSORY DWELLING IN AN 80 OR A JUNIOR 80 YOU ON, ON SITE.
HOWEVER, THE CITY ATTORNEY IN HER RESEARCH, SHE, SHE, UM, SHE VERIFIED THAT STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW CITIES TO RESTRICT THE CONSTRUCTION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY RIGHTS.
UM, WITH THAT, WITH THAT IN MIND, WE ALSO DID, UM, NEED TO REVIEW THE CODE TO SEE WHAT CAN BE ALLOWED BY YOUR RIGHTS.
AS FAR AS THE PROJECT SITE IS CONCERNED, UM, THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT LEVEL EDITION, THE PRO THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANTS CAN ADD 598 SQUARE FEET TO THE SITES.
THIS WOULD BE BELOW THE GOOD, MAYBE IN TURN AROUND AND TALK THIS WAY.
WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT YOU'RE TALKING TO THE WALL.
SO I DID ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
THE APPLICANTS WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD 500, 598 SQUARE FEET ON THE PROJECT SITE.
UM, IF THE 598 SQUARE FEET IS ADDED, THEY CAN COME BACK LATER ON AND ADD BY RIGHTS, UH, UM, 1,700 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A 1,200 SQUARE FOOT, EIGHT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND A 500 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM JUNIOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON THE SAME PROPERTY STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW CITIES TO REGULATE THESE TYPES OF ADDITION, EXCEPT FOR SETBACKS.
THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE NOT COUNTED TOWARDS THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE AND ARE NOT COUNTED TOWARDS FOUR, UM, ARE NOT COUNTED TOWARDS LAW COVERAGE, BUT IN AS SUCH THE TOOK THE TOTAL AMOUNTS OF FLOOR AREA AT THAT VIEW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE WITH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
AND WITH AN ALLOWED ADDITION THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT IS 6,642 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THAT IS, THAT EQUALS TWO AT 28.7 SQUARE FOOT FLOOR AREA, 28.7 PRESENTS, UM, FLOOR AREA RATIO.
AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS NUMBER AND THE NUMBER THAT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS THE 508 18 SQUARE FOOT VARAGE ADDITION THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED, THAT, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
THIS THE SITE PLANS GENERALLY REMAINS THE SAME.
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SPEEDS.UM, IT COMPLIES TO ALL SET BACK REQUIREMENTS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS EDITION OR THE PREVIOUS PLAN IN THE THINGS THAT THE REVISED PLANS, UM, IS MAINLY VISIBLE FROM THIS AREA RIGHT ALONG HERE.
THE SECOND FLOOR IS CATALINA, UM, OLDER OVER THE, UH, PORTION OF THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND THEN AS THE NEW DESIGN, THEY HAVE REMOVED, THAT CAN BE BIRD.
SO VISUALLY, UM, IT LOOKS MUCH BETTER AND IT ALSO REDUCED THE VISIBLE MASS AS WELL.
JORDAN, COULD YOU GIVE ME ONE SEC? SO EARLIER WE GOT INTO THE NUMBER THAT YOU HAD, UM, TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
UM, SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING BY RIGHTS, THE OWNERS DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION US.
IF THEY WERE TO ADD THE 598 SQUARE FOOT AUP, AND THEN THEY CONTINUE TO ADD ANOTHER 1200, WHICH ADD UP TO A 1700 SQUARE FOOT BY RIGHTS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME.
NO, THE EIGHT AND AUP IS NOT BY RIGHT AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
IT'S ALSO BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED AN ENTITLEMENT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL.
WE DO KNOW THE DO NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORS OF THE APPLICATION AND THE NEIGHBORS CAN REQUEST A HEARING.
SO THAT, THAT ONE ALSO DEPENDS, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY.
MOST OF THESE APPLICATIONS DON'T GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
DIRECTOR LET'S SAY RIGHT IS THE 1,700 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S FOR THE ADU OR IN JUNIOR ADU.
SO WITH THE JUNIOR ADU AND ADU IT'S 17 HUNDREDS, YES.
THEY'RE BUILDING WITH TOTAL 600 6,600, 6,642 A SQUARE FOOT.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN HAVE TOTAL MAXIMUM THAT SIZE.
BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL ON TOP OF THIS, THEY WANTED 550.
THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ADQ CORRECT.
THAT'S THE ADU IS NOT PART OF AN ADDITIONAL, THE ADDITION OF IT, WE JUST BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE AT THE LAST HEARING SOMEBODY, UM, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD ASKED A QUESTION REGARDING, UM, 80 USE.
AND SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MORE INFORMATION ON THE POSSIBILITY OF HOW, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAVING A, MAYBE YOU ON THE SITE GO, OKAY.
UM, OR IF, IF THE FUNNY THING, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO APPROVED THE SITE, THEY COULD, NOTHING WOULD BE PREVENTING, PREVENTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM ADDING AN ADDITIONAL ONE, 1,700 SQUARE FEET ON THIS PROPERTY, EXCEPT FOR, EXCEPT FOR A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS.
THEY DO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL RIGHT HERE IN THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS MAINLY HILLSIDE.
SO THEY DO HAVE LONG CONSTRAINTS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I CANNOT, I CANNOT PREDICT THE FUTURE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING IN THE, BUT THIS IS WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS THE APPLICATION THAT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THE, THE APPLICATION STILL INCLUDES A SLIGHT MODIFICATION TO ALLOW A TWO FOOT INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF A HOUSE HERE IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
THE MAXIMUM HOUSE HEIGHT IS 25 FEET AS MEASURED FROM THE LOWEST ADDITION GRADE TO THE HIGHEST ON THE STRETCHER.
UM, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANTS, THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE IS 26, 27 FEET.
AND THEY ARE MATCHING THE EXISTING HEIGHTS, THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE THROUGH THEIR ADDITION, THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND THE SLIGHT MODIFICATION DRAFT FOR APPROVAL RESOLUTION REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO HIRE A SURVEYOR PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HEIGHTS OF THE HOUSE IS 27 FEET.
AND, AND AFTER FRAMING, BEFORE THE FRAMING INSPECTION, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HEIGHT
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OF THE ADDITION IS NO HIGHER THAN 27 FEET OR NO HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING HOUSE, WHICHEVER IS LOWER.AND ELEVATION IS A TOP OF YOUR ELEVATION IS IN THE BATH.
UM, AND AT THE REAR, THE ADDITION IS RIGHT ALONG, RIGHT AROUND HERE, EXISTING HOUSE.
AND HERE ARE THE SITE, THE SITE ELEVATIONS.
UM, AND, UM, I HAVE ON THE PROJECTOR PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE, OF THE, THE HOUSE WITH THE STORY POLES, UM, TAKEN FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON, AROUND THE AREA.
THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH RIGHT ALONG HERE IS, IS TAKEN RIGHT ON HOLLY CALLING PRESS DRIVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DRIVEWAY.
THIS PHOTOGRAPH RIGHT ALONG HERE WITH TAKEN FROM IT.
WHEN IT'S TAKEN FROM, I BELIEVE THERE'S A HAULING BED, WHICH WAS TAKEN FROM THIS AREA RIGHT ALONG HERE AND LOOKING TOWARDS THE, THE ADDITION AND THIS PHOTOGRAPH AT THE BOTTOM IS TAKEN FROM HOLLAND HOLLAND, PRESS DRIVE, RIGHT, RIGHT ALONG HERE, WHERE THEY HAVE, WHERE THE ARROW IS LOOKING TOWARDS THE SIDES.
AND HERE ARE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS.
THIS, YOU CAN SEE THE STORY PULLS UP HERE.
THIS PHOTOGRAPH IS TAKEN FROM CASA GRANDE DAY DRIVE FROM AROUND THIS AREA OF LOOKING UP.
AND THIS PHOTOGRAPH AT THE BOTTOM IS TAKEN FROM SOUTH SOUTH HILLS DRIVE IN FRONT OF, UM, THIS CORNER HOUSE, RIGHT ALONG HERE, LOOKING TOWARDS THE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FURTHER, FURTHER ALONG.
UM, IF, IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF THIS HOUSE, UM, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THE ADDITION IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF THESE TREES, BECAUSE THESE TREES ARE FAIRLY TALL AND FAIRLY DENSE, BUT BY DIFFERENT STAFF DID LOOK AT PREVIOUS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVALS, BECAUSE IT ALL WAS ALSO ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, REGARDING APPLE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD APPROVED.
AND HERE ARE ALL THE ADDRESSES, THE HOUSE SIZES AND LOT SIZES, AND ALSO FLOOR AREA RATIOS OF ALL OF THE, UM, WE HAVE TWO SLIDES WITH THIS INFORMATION ON, WITH DIFFERENT PROPERTIES ON IT, UM, BECAUSE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THEM, THEM SINCE 2016.
SO MOST OF THEIR FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED ARE, ARE, UM, WITHIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES, 30, 30% FLOOR AREA.
THE PROPOSED SITE IS, HAS THE 30.9% FLOOR AREA.
AND SOME ARE LARGER, SOME ARE SLIGHTLY SMALLER.
UM, AND HERE'S HERE ARE ALSO A CONTINUATION.
UH, WE DID GET A RECORDS REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBOR FOR ALL CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS FOR A LARGE, FOR A LARGE HOME.
AND WE DID FIND THAT THERE WERE 97 OF THEM AGAIN, UM, THE FLOOR AIR RATIOS FOR THOSE THAT WERE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN COMPARISON TO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO OF THE, THE PROPOSED HOUSE AND THE LOT, THE LOT SIZES THAT ARE IN QUESTION OR THAT WORK THAT WERE FOR BUGS THAT PRE PREVIOUS APPROVAL FOR A LARGE HEALTH HOMES ARE ALSO WITHIN THE 20,000 SQUARE FOOT RANGE.
THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE SLIGHTLY LARGER AND THERAPY THAT ARE SMALLER AS WELL WITH THIS STAFF REAL QUICK, JUST SO I
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UNDERSTAND THE GARAGE AND ALWAYS THE THREE DWELLING UNITS, JUST THAT HOUSE, THE HOUSE, AND ANY ATTACHED GARAGES.A DETACHED GARAGE DOES NOT COUNT.
UM, AND ALSO IF THERE ARE ANY ATTACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES LIKE ATTACHED STORAGE SHED, THAT IS ALSO COUNTED IF IT'S DETACHED, IT DOES NOT COUNT.
SO PRIOR TO A YEAR OR SO AGO, THERE WAS REALLY NO ADU IN WEST COVINA.
I MEAN, MOST OF THESE PROJECTS DOES NOT INCLUDE ADU OR THEY DON'T HAVE ADU ON, ON, ON ADDED TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO MAINLY JUST THE HOUSE AND THE GARAGE FOR THESE PROJECTS, THE 90 SOMETHING LARGE HOMES.
THAT TWO PAGES ADD UP TO 90 SOMETHING HOMES.
NO, THESE ARE SINCE 2016, THE RECORDS REQUEST THE 97, BUT THE 97 APPLICATIONS CP APPLICATIONS.
THAT WAS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
THERE WERE JUST TOO MANY TOO TWO LISTS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I THOUGHT TWO PAGES WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE, WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE SLIGHT MODIFICATION.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS I'M AVAILABLE TO RESPOND, ANY QUESTIONS, JOANNE PLANTS THAT WERE SENT TO US, UM, APPEARED TO ME TO SHOW THE LARGER, UM, CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SHOW US THE SMALLER.
SEE THIS ONE SAYS, CLEARLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS ONE KIND OF OVER, SO HOW MANY, UM, I CAN GO AHEAD AND CHECK FIVE OH ONE AND A HALF.
IT'S JUST THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE, HE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING REVISE PLANS.
HOWEVER, IT WAS SINCE ONLY, ONLY 300, 305 SQUARE FEET WAS REMOVED, UH, AND ONLY ONE AND A HALF FEET FROM, FROM ONE SIDE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THERE, THERE IS THERE ON THE REVISED PLANS, THERE ISN'T THE PER THE PREVIOUS PLANS TO COMPARE IT WITH.
DOES THE FINDING COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, MY QUESTION IS, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.
MR. CLARIFY IS BASED UPON IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE FEDERAL AND LOCAL LAW.
I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE EARLIER THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE NOT, OR MY VOTE WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE IS IN COMPLIANT THAN WHAT THE LAW ALLOWS.
IN, IN SOUTH, IN SOUTH OPINION, THE FINDINGS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND SLIGHT MODIFICATION IS SUPPORTABLE.
HOWEVER, THAT IS UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DECIDE ON WHETHER OR NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE FINDINGS, UM, BECAUSE IT IS THE APPLICATION IS
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AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PURVIEW.SO IT'S THE CITY STAFF HAS FOUND THOSE FINDINGS AND THAT LETS FOLKS JUST TO KIND OF ASK FOR APPROVAL, UM, CITY, CITY STAFF'S OPINION, CITY STAFF WOULD, IT IS ABLE TO MAKE THOSE FINDINGS.
UM, HOWEVER, AGAIN, UM, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION.
I ALSO WANT TO ADD A JOANNE, CAN YOU BRING THAT NUMBER UP AGAIN? THE OTHER TWO NUMBERS, WHICH THIS ONE, NO.
SO BASICALLY WHAT STAFF IS FINDING IS THAT REGARDING THE, UM, THE MAXIMUM ADU AND THE J THE JUNIOR ADU IS THAT IF THE RESIDENTS WANT TO ADDED THE 1700 OR SO, THEN THEY CAN USE ADMINISTRATIVE, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF APPROVAL THAN WERE TO COMING TO US AS A PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET ALL THE APPROVAL.
SO IN THIS, IN THEIR SITUATION, IN THIS SITUATION, THEY DO NOT WANT THE ADU, WHICH TO SOME EXTENT IS, IS, UM, THE LAW HAD SO PROVIDE THE OPTIONS FOR THEM TO DO, BUT THEY WANTED JUST TO HAVE AN ADDITION TO THEIR HOME.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, BASICALLY THE HOUSES ADDED UP TO 5,000 MORE THAN WHAT THEY COULD HAVE USED THIS OPTION AS WELL, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT THE ADU, WHICH IS THE SECOND 80 YEARS, LIKE A SECOND UNIT.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER KITCHEN, OR WHAT ELSE, JUST A SECOND UNIT THAT YOU CAN AFTER YOU HAVE A FAMILY LIVING IN THERE.
SO THEY JUST WANTED AN ADDITION OF THE HOUSE, WHICH ADD UP TO BE MORE THAN IF YOU ADD IT ALL UP WITH THIS ONE ADDED ANOTHER 520 SQUARE FOOT ALSO.
THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED MORE ON TOP OF BY REP BY SORT OF LIKE BY COLD.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY'RE NOT USING THIS OPTION THERE.
THEY HAVE TO COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO WE, WE, WE DO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.
IF WHAT WE FIND IS THAT CORRECT, LIKE HOW WE FIND I'LL FIND.
SO, SO, UH, AN ADU DOES NOT TRIGGER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ADDITIONS.
SO BASICALLY AN ADU DOES NOT NEED TO COME TO NO PLANNING COMMISSION AT ALL.
WE WON'T BE EVEN HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AT THIS TIME.
NO, BECAUSE EVEN IF THE ADU IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, EVEN IF THE EIGHTIES WAS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE EXISTING HOUSE AND HE, UH, MAYBE THE 80 USE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT IT'S, IT'S A MINISTERIAL PROCESS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, THAT CAN REQUIRE AN ENTITLEMENT OR A DISCRETIONARY APPLICATION.
SO DOES ANYONE ELSE ASK QUESTIONS FOR STAFF NOW WE'LL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE? I DIDN'T MEMORIZE IT.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE HERE.
ONE MORE TIME BEFORE YOU GUYS, BECAUSE WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
WE HAVE TALKED TO OUR, TO OUR CLIENT PROPERTY OWNER, AND WE DECIDED THAT WE CAN READ REDUCING THE MASS, BUT A SECOND STORY BRINGING IN A FOOT AND A HALF, AND ALSO REDUCING ONE FOOT FROM THE REAR TO REDUCE OUR TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ABOUT 300 SQUARE FEET.
A LITTLE MORE, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THREE KIDS FOUR FEET, SO THEY CAN SAY SO IF YOU CLICK TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO AS YOU, UH, THE CURRENT COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION WAS NOT HERE, BUT NOVEMBER 10TH, WE DID RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM STAFF AND RECOMMENDATION.
WE RECEIVED RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM STAFF ONLY CANDIDATE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, NOVEMBER 10TH.
WE ALSO RECEIVED RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM STAFF DECEMBER EIGHT, 2020.
AND THEN WE ARE HERE TODAY, WHETHER THAT'S A TEMPLE OR WHEREVER TODAY, ALSO AGAIN, RECEIVING RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE RECEIVED RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AS WE PROPOSED IT, YOU KNOW, 300 SQUARE FEET GREATER THAN WE'RE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW, BUT BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY SAID THAT WAS TOO LARGE,
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WE WANTED TO WANTED TO ACCOMMODATE THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S BRING IT DOWN.THAT'S, I'M SATISFIED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S COMMENTS, THEIR CONCERNS, AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE REDUCE IT 300 SCORES.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO READ THIS, BUT, UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, THE, THAT THIS IS THE NEW PLAN, BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE, THE SECOND STORY SETBACK NOW WE'VE REDUCED ONE FOOT AND A HALF.
SO IF YOU LOOK, THIS IS THE ROUTE PLAN.
SO WITH HER MOUTH, WE BROUGHT IN THE BUILDING ONE FOOT AND A HALF.
AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH, AND THEN THERE'S A PICTURE.
SO THAT SECOND STORY NOW IS SET INSIDE.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE TOPOGRAPHY OF 50 FEET AND CHANGE OF GREAT.
SO IF YOU'RE STANDING AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE STREET, THERE'S A MINIMUM OF 50 FEET OF TOPOGRAPHY CHANGE FROM THE STREET TO THE, TO OUR FINISHED FLOOR.
THEN WE WENT AHEAD AND MOVED IT ANOTHER FOOT AND A HALF THEN.
AND THAT'S AN IMAGE FROM IF YOU WERE TO BE DRIVING, UH, INSIDE THE PROPERTY CAUSE, UH, IT TO ACT AS THE PROPERTY.
IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY STEEP HILL.
WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? SO THIS IS THE ELEVATION.
AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE AREA THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED TO THE FRONT OF THE PREVIOUS PLANS, WHICH ALREADY SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, THE NEXT IMAGE.
AND THEN THAT IS THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA ALSO, THAT WAS ALSO REDUCED.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS THAT WERE REDUCED.
AND THEN I PUT BOTH PICTURES TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE TWO STORY ADDITION.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE SECOND STORY, ADDITION AND EXPANSION.
SO I HAD IT BOTH AREAS AHEAD OF THE REAR AS ONE AREA.
AND THEN I HIGHLIGHTED THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS A REDUCTION IN THE SECOND STORY, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND IT DID WITH THE POWERPOINT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ABOUT THE ADU, BUT WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS TO DO AN ADU ZERO.
IF WE HAD THAT INTENTION, WE WOULD HAVE BEGAN WITH AN ADU PROCESS THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET 1700 SQUARE FEET OVER THE CAMP.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE NEED THE CAR GARAGE FOR THEIR PARENTS.
AND THEN FOR THE FUTURE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BECOME, UM, I KNOW, I THINK IT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE WAS SAYING, WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE? HOW BIG ARE THEY? WELL, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AT THREE HOUSES DOWN.
THERE WAS A 9,713 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, WHICH IS THREE PROPERTIES FROM OUR PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO US CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IS 600 SQUARE FEET LARGER THAN OUR PROPERTY.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALL THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE 300 FOOT RADIUS, THERE'S MULTIPLE THREE, THERE'S MULTIPLE 5,000, 6,000 AND 70,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES WHEN THEY HAD 300 FOOT RADIUS.
UM, WHICH IS WHAT WAS NOTICED.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE REDUCED THE ART PROJECT BY 305 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, I'M GONNA KIND OF SUMMARIZE THIS, BUT STAFF DID MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, AND ALSO THEY MADE THE FINDINGS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THEY ALSO MADE THE FIND EVEN SUPPORTING OUR PROJECT WITH THE MODIFICATION.
SO OUR PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE OUR PROPERTY TO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALSO THE ARCHITECTURE BLENDS WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF HAS WORKED WITH US FOR OVER A YEAR TO PREPARE FOR THIS TIME RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE PRESENTING THIS PROJECT.
SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN ADDITION TO US PRESENTING, NOW, WE TOOK A LONG TIME TO COME UP WITH THIS PROJECT, WITH THAT SCOPE.
SO THAT'S WHY STAFF IS IN SUPPORT WITH OUR PROJECT.
IN ADDITION, OUR PROJECT IS INCIPIENT BIG, SIGNIFICANT DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY OF A 50 FOOT.
SO YES, WE ARE PROPOSING A TWO STORIES, A HOUSE, BUT BECAUSE OF A GRADE CHANGE THAT'S INCIDENT, AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO, IT'S HARD TO LIVE THERE.
IN ADDITION, UM, THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VIEWS WE HAVE, NO, WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN LOOKING AT OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
WE DO NOT WANT TO TAKE ANYONE'S PRIVACY AWAY OR JEOPARDIZE IT IN ANY WAY.
OUR VIEWS ARE SOLELY LOOKING TOWARDS THE WEST AND IT WAS FROM OUR RENDERINGS.
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YOU CAN TELL THE ONLY WINDOWS, THE LARGE WINDOWS ALL LOOK TO THE WEST, BUT WE DON'T LOOK TO OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH.OUR NEIGHBOR TO OURSELVES IS THE WATER WHERE THE WATER, WATER WASHING.
SO WE, WE TOOK A LOT OF ADVANTAGES OF THE SITE AND HOW WE DESIGNED THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE A CONCERN AND WE DO NOT WANT TO JEOPARDIZE ANYONE'S PRIVACY WHATSOEVER.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, LIKE I SAID, IT DID TAKE A LOT INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED, WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER WANTED, AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE, WE WERE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THIS CORRECTLY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AND I COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTION.
TECHNICALLY, ONE QUESTION I HAD, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET WAS TAKEN OFF OF THE REAR.
I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE SIDE THAT ONE IN HALF.
SO HOW MANY I BOUGHT 200 SQUARE FEET.
SO WOULD THAT BE TWO FEET OR THREE FEET? IT WAS A FOOT AND A HALF, BUT BECAUSE IT'S TWO STORIES AND IT GETS CHUCKED IN AT IT'S A LARGER PORTION.
SO IT'S ALSO A FOOT AND A HALF THAT'S TAKEN OFF THE REAR, CORRECT? WELL, PUT IN A HALF OF THE REAR AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE HAD FROM THE SIDE.
QUESTIONS, IF NOT, UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK UP FOR THIS PROJECT? THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE US TO COME UP TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS PROJECT IN FAVOR? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP TO OPPOSING.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK THE RESIDENT COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I WANT TO OPEN WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MINUTES ARE NOT A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
I'M DISMAYED THAT THE KEY POINTS OF MY PRESENTATION WERE NOT CAPTURED.
I KNOW I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL MY, FROM LAST MEETING, BUT I WILL COVER A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS.
ONE IS THAT I SAID THAT THE EXISTING HOME IS 30, 31% LARGER THAN THE EXISTING HOMES.
THE PROPOSED HOME IS OVER 100% LARGER.
IT'S TWICE THE SIZE, MORE THAN TWICE, ACTUALLY IT'S ABOUT 125% LARGER THAN THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SURROUNDING HOMES IS THAT THE MINUTES DO NOT MENTION THAT I SUBMITTED A PETITION TO THE COMMISSION OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, NINE NEIGHBORS AT THE TIME EFFICIENT SAYING THAT THEY WERE OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.
I'LL START WITH MY PRESENTATION REGARDING COMMENTS BY THE ARCHITECT ABOUT OTHER HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'D LIKE TO CIRCULATE THIS DOCUMENT.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO PASS THIS OUT.
CAN I GET A COPY OF IT? I ONLY HAVE ONE FOR THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS.
I CAN SHARE YOUR COMMENT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT STATES THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES OR BUDDING PROPERTIES ARE TWO STORIES YOU CAN SEE BY THIS LIST HERE.
IT'S THE CALL ABOVE IN THE CENTER OF THE PAGE.
IT SHOWS THAT ONLY THREE HOMES SEE ONE, TWO, THREE HOMES, FOUR HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE TWO STORIES.
MY HOME, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ABUTTING IS NOT A TWO STORY HOME.
THESE RECORDS ARE DIRECTLY FROM THE ASSESSORS DATABASE.
THIS REPRESENTS HOMES IN A 700 FOOT RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
THERE'S AN AVERAGE SHOWN OF THOSE HOMES.
NOW THE ASSESSOR'S RECORDS DO NOT REFLECT GARAGE SPACE FLIGHT ADDED A FACTOR PLUS A 400 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE.
THE AVERAGE HOME SIZE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FIT.
LET'S SEE, THERE'S 44 HOMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AVERAGE SIZE, INCLUDING GARAGE IS 31 83.
I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
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OTHER ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OFF THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED AND WITH A SQUARE, THE DARK OUTLINE THE APPLICANT'S HOME ALREADY 39, 10 AT 400 SQUARE FEET.THAT BRINGS YOU ABOVE TO THE 43 10 THAT ARE 43 46, WHATEVER THE, THE STAFF HAS INDICATED IN THEIR REPORT, A ANOTHER NEARBY HOME, 4,500 SQUARE FEET, THE NUMBER AND THAT PLUS 500 PLUS A 400 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE WOULD BE 4,900 SQUARE FEET.
THE ONE HOME THAT IS 9,713 SQUARE FEET.
I'LL LOOK AT THE SQUARE FOOT, LOT SIZE 106,785 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS AN ANOMALY ACTUALLY I'VE INCLUDED IT IN THE AVERAGE.
IT SHOULD NOT BE IF YOU REMOVED THAT, IT WOULD REDUCE THAT AVERAGE SIZE SLIGHTLY.
THIS HOME IS A HISTORIC HOME IN WEST COVINA ACTUALLY WAS PLANTATION OWNERS HOME WHO OWNED ALL OF THE ORANGE FIELDS IN WEST COVINA.
IT'S OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
THIS HOME CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT BE COMPARED WITH THE PROPOSED APPLICANT'S HOME.
I'D LIKE TO NOW PASS OFF ANOTHER DOCUMENT ABOUT THE OTHER APPROVALS.
I MAY UNFORTUNATELY DOING AN NIGHT.
I DON'T HAVE ONE FOR YOU, BUT I'LL GIVE IT TO THESE TWO LADIES.
ONE, HOW HAD REQUESTED INFORMATION SINCE STAFF CONTENDED THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST.
THIS IS A LIST OF VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT JOANNE PROVIDED THAT SHOWS THOSE HOMES.
SO-CALLED LARGE HOMES UNDER CITY VERNACULAR THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST.
THIS IS FIVE YEARS OF HISTORY.
IF YOU GO BACK ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, THE HOMES THAT WERE APPROVED ACTUALLY WERE MUCH SMALLER.
THAT WAS NOT INDICATED BY THE OCCURRENCE.
SHE NEGLECTED TO MENTION IN HER PRESENTATION THAT THESE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ALL VERY LARGE HOMES.
LOOKING DOWN THIS LIST HERE, I'VE ANNOTATED IN PARENTHESES.
FIRST OF ALL, THE FIRST COLUMN WHERE YOU SEE 17, QUITE A FEW HOMES IN A YEAR 17 OF 2017 AND IN 2018 AND IN 2020, THAT'S WHEN THE CPS WERE APPROVED IN PARENTHESES, YOU CAN SEE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WAS APPROVED FIVE MINUTES.
I DO APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION.
THE, UH, IN THE PARENTHESIS IT'S ANNOTATED AS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH MASS AND BULK OF SURROUNDING HOMES, ALL OF THE HOMES EVER APPROVED ARE CONSISTENT WITH MASS AND BULK OF THE NEIGHBORING HOMES.
AND IN FACT, ONE, THE ADDITION WAS UNDERGROUND.
I'LL TRY TO MOVE ALONG QUICKLY HERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS.
I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE PETITION.
THIS IS, UH, NOW THE PETITION.
I INCREASED THE SIZE OF THE PETITION TO INCLUDE HOMES WITHIN A 500 FOOT RADIUS.
WHO'VE SIGNED THE PETITION NOW WHO HAVE OPPOSED THE PROJECT I'D LIKE TO PASS THIS AROUND AND INCLUDED IN THE RECORDS.
WELL
THIS IS WHY HOMES HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED OF THIS LARGE SIZE IN THE PAST, OR HAVE NOT CONCLUDED THIS.
LIKE I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF INCLUDING AN ADU SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT BY RIGHT, THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY IN MY OPINION, THE STATE LAW ALLOWS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A HOME OF THIS MASS IN BULK, THAT'S TWICE THE SIZE OF NEIGHBORING HOMES.
I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT YOUR COMMISSION CONSIDER LIMITING THIS DEVELOPMENT SIZE OR THIS MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE, BUT THIS PARTICULAR HOME TO A NUMBER THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED BY COMMISSIONER LEWIS
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AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS 5,000 SQUARE FEET, PLUS A 1200 SQUARE FOOT, 80 YOU AS HIS RIGHT NOW, THAT'S UNDER STATE LAW CONFLICTS WITH WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH IS FRUSTRATING, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.THE FACT THAT STATE LAW ALLOWS FOR SUCH A LARGE HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OF SMALLER MOONS.
IT IS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING TO ME.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UM, MR.
ALTHOUGH YOUR GARAGE IS IN THE GROUND, UM, THE, THE ONE AT THE END, THE TWO-STORY HOUSE, CAUSE THE GARAGE IS ATTACHED JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
CAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE INDICATED THAT STAFF WASN'T CORRECT.
I DO WANT TO ADD ONE POINT PLANNING COMMISSION MUST REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF WEST COVINA AND ENSURE THE PLANNING CODE IS ADHERE TO WHILE CONSISTENTLY ALLOWING FOR VARIANCES WHERE APPROPRIATE IN THIS ACT.
MR. REYNOLDS IS POINT IN THIS CASE, THE PROPOSED LARGE HOME THAT IS TWICE THE SIZE OF THE HOMES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
IT'S DEFINITELY NOT APPROPRIATE TO COME OUT OF A FEW PICTURES THAT I WANT TO PASS OUT.
I JUST HAVE ONE COPY THE PICTURES OF MY FRONT YARD AND BACKYARD TO ILLUSTRATE THAT STORY COULD BE SEEN FROM BOTH LOCATIONS OF THE CROP ON MY PERSONNEL.
UH, IT'S UH, MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A COMFORTABLE HOME USING THE ASSESSMENT.
UH, I DID FIND THAT THE LOT SIZE SITS ON A HUNDRED, 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
SO I LIVE WITHIN A 300 FOOT RADIUS, ABOUT 43 FEET FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UH, STREET CURVES AND MY STREET CURB.
UH, I SUBMITTED SOME PICTURES TO HELP ILLUSTRATE THE IMPACT, UH, TO, TO MY FAMILY'S PRIVACY AND MYSELF.
THEY'LL CREATE A FEELING OF HOVERING, WATCHING AND MONITORING WITH THE 270 DEGREE VIEW.
AS PROPOSED SAID, THE CONCERN IS THAT ONLY OUR FRONT YARD IS DISPOSE.
THEN THE SOLUTION WOULD PROBABLY BE TO GO TO THE BACKYARD.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY AS SHOWN OR BACKYARD IS ALSO EXPOSED TO THAT, TO THE PROPOSAL STUFF WHERE WE COULD KILL IT, WE COULD BARELY SEE THE HISTORICALS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW INDIVIDUALS CONTINUE TO PROMOTE STEVE, THAT TREES OR HEDGES WILL BLOCK THE VIEW SINCE, UH, IT DOES NOT.
THEIR DREAM HOME WILL BE OUR NIGHTMARE.
IF ALLOWED TO BE SYMMETRICALLY OVER, IT ALLOWED TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PRE-ESTABLISHED LIMITS AND EXEMPTIONS.
THEY'RE READY TO, SO YOU TO OBTAIN MY PRIVACY, I NEED TO HAVE A NEED TO PLAN TO BUILD A LARGER INSTRUCTION AND WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ASSUMING ASSUMPTIONS AND ANY OTHER LIMITATIONS ARE GRANTED,
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SUCH, SUCH EXEMPTIONS MAY PROVOKE OTHERS TO REQUEST SIMILAR EXEMPTIONS BY EITHER PROMOTING LARGER, LARGER STRUCTURES TO PROVIDE PRIVACY THREE THEM BECAUSE THE ONLY REQUIREMENTS FOR A BUSINESS TO ALLOW BUSINESSES OR APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA, WE MOVED TO THE CITY FROM HISTORICAL DISTRICT ANIMAL SANDALS.YOU MOVED HERE TO WEST COVINA TO ENJOY THE MORE PRIVATE ENVIRONMENT AS HOMES HOMES IN LOS ANGELES.
HOW DID THEY STACK ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, FEEL TO IT, IF, IF IT'S, IF CONTINUE WITH THE PROPOSED, WE'LL GET THAT FEELING AGAIN.
ANY HOPE ANYONE ELSE I'D HAVE TO SPEAK? IF NOT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP TO ME? BUT, UM, I JUST LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT OUR PROPERTY AND ABOUT I PLAN, WE HAVE ZERO INTENTIONS TO MAKE ANYONE THAT IN AN UNCOMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE ZERO INTENTIONS TO BE LOOKING AT PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND WE HAVE ZERO INTENTIONS TO CONVERT OUR PROPERTY INTO, UM, LIKE OUR ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, TWO STORY HOUSE.
ALSO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ALSO A VERY VITAL IT'S LARGER THAN OUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS ANY OF THAT.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS IS THAT MY CLIENT HAS A DREAM AND IT HAS THEIR DREAM HOME AND THEY BOUGHT THEIR DREAM PROPERTY.
UM, WE TOOK A LOT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE DESIGNED THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO ARE DESIGNING A DREAM HOME.
UM, WE ARE, WE ARE MATCHING THE EXISTING HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE.
WE ARE ALSO MEETING THE GENERAL PLAN.
WE ARE ALSO MEETING THE MUNICIPAL QUOTE AND WE ALSO HAVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AS PROPOSED.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE LIKE THE ONE SET OVER, UM, FROM 2016, THERE ARE ABOUT 33 APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE ALL BEEN APPROVED FOR A PROJECT, VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.
AND AS I LOOKED, I STOOD UP AND I LOOKED AT THAT CHART ARE FAR.
IT'S MUCH LESS IT'S IT'S IN, IT'S ON THE LOWER END OF ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO WE ARE NOT UTILIZING OUR ENTIRE LOT TO MAKE OUR, OUR HOUSE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR PROPERTY IS VERY UNIQUE IN TOPOGRAPHY AND HOW IT'S IRREGULAR IN SHAPE AND ALSO TO DESIGN IT.
IT'S QUITE DIFFICULT, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE DESIGN THAT WE CHOSE AND WHAT WE PROPOSE MEETS THE NEED FOR THE MUNICIPAL CODE IS SIGNIFICANT, IS INSIGNIFICANT.
DO THE TYPOGRAPHY AND ALSO, UM, IS NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ANYONE'S PRIVACY.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DO ANYTHING TO OUR PROPERTY.
ANYTHING THAT WE DO TO OUR PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE SEEN BY ANYONE, OUR HOUSE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE, YOU COULD ALREADY SEE THE HOUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE.
AND SO, YES, WE WANT TO DO AN ADDITION, BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXERCISE OUR RIGHTS ON OUR PROPERTY TO CREATE OUR DREAM HOME.
AS LONG AS WE MEET THE MUNICIPAL CODE, AS LONG AS WE MEET WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, AS LONG AS WE MEET THE DESIGN THAT STAFF WISHES FOR THE COMMUNITY, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST LARGE HOUSE.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST LARGE HOUSE.
THIS ISN'T AS LARGE AS TWO PROPERTIES DOWN, TWO PROPERTIES OVER THE TWO PROPERTIES OVER IT'S BUILT.
WE DON'T WANT THAT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF OUR HOUSE IS ALL GARAGE.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST FOR STAFF.
I MEAN, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE A MOTION IN APPROVING OUR PROJECT AS PROPOSED, BECAUSE WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE PLANNINGS
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PLANNING PERMISSIONS REQUEST TO REDUCING THE SIZE.WE ALSO TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS ABOUT BEING LARGE.
WE REDUCED IT, ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS, ALL THE OTHER 33 PROJECTS FROM NINE, FROM 2016, THEY'RE ALL LARGER THAN OURS.
MOST OF THE PROJECTS ARE LARGER.
AND THEN THE HOUSES TO THE NORTH, LIKE, LIKE LEAD COMMISSIONER HANSON, THEY'RE MUCH LARGER.
THEY'RE 10,008,000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.
SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, YOU CALL HER NEIGHBORHOOD JUST FIVE HOUSES TO THE NORTH FIVE HOUSES TO THE WEST FIVE.
WE BOTH KNOW WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS.
SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE PERMISSION TO MAKE A MOTION, TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
AS WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF TO RECEIVE THIS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, AND WE RECEIVED THIS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL THREE TIMES IN A ROW IN NOVEMBER, IN DECEMBER, I'M SORRY, NOVEMBER, JANUARY, NOVEMBER, JANUARY.
AND TODAY WE HAVE RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, WITH THAT SAID ANY QUESTIONS HOW'D YOU DO HAVE ONE, UM, TO BRING UP THE REAR VIEW OF THE HOUSE, PLEASE.
IS THERE LIKE A ELEVATION FOR THE REAR WHEEL HOUSE? I THINK I HAVEN'T JOINED IN MY PRESENTATION.
UM, THAT'S THE ADDITION? WHAT ABOUT THE EXISTING? DO YOU HAVE ONE THAT WE'RE THE ONLY THAT EXISTS? I DON'T HAVE A RENDERING OF THE EXISTING.
SO THE BOTTOM ELEVATION IS THE REAR MAYBE INCLUDES EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, THE BOTTOM OF HOUSE ELEVATE THE ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW, THE REAR ELEVATION.
WHICH JOANNE, COULD YOU POINT TO WHICH PORTION IS THE ADDITION? I BELIEVE IT'S THIS PORTION.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THE LINE WHERE YOU SEE THAT LINE CLEANED OUT TO THE RIGHT? DID THE ADDITION NOT THE RED LINE, BUT THERE'S KIND OF LIKE A BREAK YOU'D HAVE BREAK RIGHT THERE.
THAT BREAK THAT LINE RIGHT THERE.
SO TO THE RIGHT OF ERIC, THE ADDITION, ADDITION EXISTING IN THE WHOLE LEFT PORTION.
SO TO THE LEFT OF IT IS THE NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
TO THE LEFT IS HOW THEIR HOUSE IS TODAY.
THE WHOLE THING ON THE LEFT IS EXISTING FROM THE MOUSE RIGHT THERE WHERE SHE'S POINTING THAT BREAK TOWARDS THE RIGHT IS THE ADDITION.
AND TO THE RIGHT OF IT, THAT'S THE ADDITION ADDED THE ADDITION THERE.
AND THEN TO THE PROPERTY AND THEN THE PICTURE ON THE NORTH, YOU SEE THE SECOND STORY, THAT'S KIND OF SHADED MORE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, ON TOP OF THE GARAGE THAT ONLY THAT AREA, THAT'S IT? THAT IS THE ADDITION, THE WHOLE THING ON THE LEFT.
IF I CAN DRAW IT HERE, BUT I SEE THAT, I SEE THAT IT'S THIS PORTION HERE IS ONLY ADDITION.
SO THEN ADDITION IS IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS IS
SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP FOR A COMMISSION QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
SO AFTER OUR LAST HEARING, I SPENT A GREAT
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DEAL OF TIME RESEARCHING.UM, THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW, UM, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY NEAR HOME TO ME.
UM, AND SO OBVIOUSLY I, I, I CERTAINLY, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IT VERY WELL.
AND, UH, TO, TO THAT END, I UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF IT FAIRLY WELL IN THE SENSE THAT YOU HAVE BASICALLY THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THREE DIFFERENT LOT SIZES, ALL COMING TOGETHER, PARTICULARLY ON THAT HOLLENBECK AREA, YOU HAVE SMALLER LOTS THAT ARE MAYBE 10 TO 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
YOU HAVE LOTS THAT GO FROM 10 TO 20,000 AND THEN UP THE HILL, YOU HAVE WATTS THAT GO FROM USUALLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 16 TO COUPLE ACRES.
UM, AND SO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS SORT OF HIS SORT OF ON THE, ON, ON THE, ON THE PRECIPICE, IN TERMS OF IT BEING A DISTINGUISHING LOT RELATIVE TO OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
AND I'LL SAY THIS, UH, THIS WAS PRESENTED BY, UM, MR. ALVAREZ.
UM, AND IT, IT SHOWS, UM, EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD EXPECT.
UM, ALL OF THE LOTS THAT ARE PRESENTED HERE, UM, OUT OF THE 50 WATTS THAT ARE PRESENTED, THERE ARE ONLY, UH, IT'S WHAT SEVEN LOTS THAT ARE 20,000 SQUARE FEET OR ABOVE THE REST OF THEM ARE ALL SMALLER THAN THAT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S SORT OF INDICATIVE OF EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IN THAT SENSE, IT IS A LARGER LOT FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU DRAW A STRAIGHT CIRCLE AND SAY, I'M GOING TO GO 700 FEET IN EVERY DIRECTION WITH THAT, UM, HERE'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED.
AND OBVIOUSLY, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THIS BODY HAS PREVIOUSLY MADE IT EFFECTIVELY.
SO THAT AS A MATTER OF, RIGHT, IN MY OPINION, THESE SORT OF HOUSES CAN BE BUILT.
I HATE SAYING THAT, BUT WE HAVE BASICALLY BLOWN ANY CREDIBILITY THAT WE HAVE AT THIS BODY TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD SAY, WHAT'S CAP THIS AT 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
I MEAN, I JUST DID MY OWN RESEARCH ON THIS.
AND I MEAN, I HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO HAS A 9,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT IMA OR EXCUSE ME, 9,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS IT'S OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD QUITE FRANKLY, IS SORT OF A HODGEPODGE OF TRANSITIONS OF, OF LARGE, LOTS SMALLER LOTS AND SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
AND, AND, AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, I, I LOOKED THIS UP, I LOOKED UP HOUSES UP THE HILL, DOWN THE HILL, UM, AND FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND VERY, VERY SUCCINCTLY, UM, WE START HAVING HOUSES IN THE HILLS AT THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND IT GOES ON UP FROM CASA GRANDE DAY TO, UH, UH, UP TO COUNTRY WITH LANE ALPINE, UH, HOLLAND CREST, UM, YOU NAME IT.
UM, AND I MEAN, JUST WITH, WITHIN THAT AREA, I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE HOUSES.
FOR EXAMPLE, I FOUND 50, 1531 SOUTH ALPINE HAS A 6,776 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON A 19,409 SQUARE FOOT LOT, EXCUSE ME, SIX 6,776 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON A 19,409 SQUARE FOOT.
LOT WE HAVE, AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE GARAGE AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE GARAGE.
UH, THERE'S 1444 SOUTH ALPINE 0.46 ACRES, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, WE HAVE 28 OH FIVE COUNTRY WOODS, 6,100 SQUARE FOOT ON 0.7 0.47 ACRES, SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF MADNESS.
UM, YOU KIND OF THINK TO YOURSELF, OKAY, WELL, WE HAVE THESE STANDARDS, BUT WE HAVEN'T ABIDED BY THOSE STANDARDS.
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UM, AND I, I WILL GIVE EVERYONE AN EDUCATION ON WHERE THESE STANDARDS CAME FROM IN 1991 WEST COVINA CITY COUNCIL PASSED AN ANTIEMETIC ORGANIZATION ORDINANCE.THAT
THAT IS THE ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE ALL RELYING UPON.
I THINK THAT ORDINANCE, UNFORTUNATELY, ISN'T WORTH THE PAPER IT'S WRITTEN ON AND WE'VE ALL, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL UP HERE AND I'LL SAY FOUR OF US ARE NEWBIES.
AND WE HAD NO SAY IN TERMS OF SAYING THAT WE SHOULD ADHERE OR NOT ADHERE TO THAT.
THERE ARE FORMER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN HERE AND WHO HAVE ATTENDED HERE AND WHO HAVE COMMENTED ON THIS PROJECT.
AND I WONDER, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE IS OPPOSITION TO IT, YOU KNOW, W WHY, WHY DID WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD FOR A DECADE? AND WE DID, WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD FOR AN ENTIRE DECADE.
AND THEN I, THEN I LOOKED AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL, ARE WE THE ONLY CITY AROUND HERE THAT HAS AN ANTI MANSION ORDINANCE? SO I LOOKED AT COVINA, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY LOCK LIMITATIONS, OR THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BUILDING SIZE LIMITATIONS.
THE ONLY REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE IS SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, SAN DEMAS, SAME THING, A WOMAN, 40% OF, UH, UH, OF, UH, THE, UH, THE, UH, THE TOTAL SURFACE AREA.
ONE OF THE WE'RE A 35% PLUS A 400 SQUARE FOOT ALLOTMENT FOR GARAGES.
I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, WE HAVE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE ORDINANCE I COULD FIND ANYWHERE NEARBY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T APPARENTLY WE'VE KEPT IT IN PLACE, BUT THIS COMMISSION HAS, UH, DECIDED TO TRAMPLE RIGHT OVER IT.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S FOR THAT REASON, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD DENY THIS APPLICANT HERE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THE HOUSE.
I, I, I, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE CASE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY I THINK WE HAVE LAWS AND WE SHOULD ABIDE BY THOSE LAWS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A PRECEDENT, A PRECEDENT THAT'S BEEN SET.
AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I LOOK AT THIS AND I SAY, AS MUCH AS ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ADHERE TO HAVING, HAVING BRIGHT LINE STANDARDS AND NOT DEVIATING MUCH FROM THOSE.
I DON'T SEE HOW I CAN DO IT WITH ANY CREDIBILITY FOR THIS CITY.
THIS CITY HAS NO CREDIBILITY ON THAT ISSUE.
AND I WOULD BE A HYPOCRITE IF I SAID, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS PERSON GETS TO DO IT.
THEY HAVE A 21,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL GIVE YOU A ONE I FOUND, UM, LET'S SEE, LET'S SEE WHICH ONE WAS IT THAT, THAT 67, 76 ELOQUENT ON A 1531 SOUTH ALPINE, OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UH, LET'S SEE, 31 91 HOLES A YEAR, 30, TWO, 10 HORIZON PLACE.
BUT I MEAN, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
AND I, I JUST THINK TO MYSELF, IT'S PURE MADNESS.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE, THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS, BUT ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT FOR ME TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT, I WILL PUT CONDITIONS ON THIS BECAUSE THAT MAN HAS A POINT AND I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE WINDOWS FACING DIRECTLY INTO HIS, INTO HIS YARD.
SO I, I WOULD SAY THAT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, I WOULD PUT THAT AS A CONDITION FOR APPROVAL SO THAT THERE IS NO WINDOWS THAT DIRECTLY FACE INTO THAT MAN'S YARD, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT WE HAVE EVERY EXPECTATION HERE TO PROTECT PEOPLE, PEOPLE'S RIGHTS OF, OF MAINTAINING THEIR VIEWS.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, I, I THINK THAT THAT MAKES SENSE AS A, AS A PROPER LIMITATION FOR THAT SECOND STORY.
UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, I, I'M AN UNFORTUNATE YES, CHAIR HANGING COMMISSIONERS.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT YOUR, ANY DECISION YOU MAKE TONIGHT, UM, SHOULD BE BASED ON THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A VARIANCE AS SET FORTH IN YOUR STAFFS IN COURT.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UM, FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM, UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, NUMBER TWO, THE LATTER PART WHERE IT SAYS RESULTS, THE PROJECT WOULD RESULT IN A DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS HARMONIOUS IN SCALE MASS AND WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENCES
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IN LIGHT OF HAVING TWO SETS OF PETITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SIGNED BY RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.HOW WOULD THE CITY ADDRESS THIS? I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S UP FOR EACH, IT'S UP TO EACH COMMISSIONER TO DETERMINE IF YOU FEEL BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO YOU, BASED ON ALL THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO YOU OVER THE COURSE OF THE VARIOUS HEARINGS FROM STAFF, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT FINDING, THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? WELL, UM, IT'S, I'VE BEEN HERE AS A PRODUCT COMMISSIONERS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UM, FORMER COMMISSIONER IS ALSO HERE AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EASY SOMETIMES BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE PLANTS IN FRONT OF US, WE DO NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
UM, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, THE CITIES, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE RESIDENT OR APPLICANTS WANT.
AND AT TIMES, UM, IT, IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT AND IT, WE HAVE BEEN PROVEN, APPROVING MAN THAT, UM, OUR LARGER GRANTS AS WELL.
I CANNOT SAY THAT, UM, WE HAVE NOT APPROVED BECAUSE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT CAME UP TO US, UM, AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT PERHAPS, MAYBE FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS OR SO, THE AVERAGE HOUSE IN WEST GALENA WHEN IT WAS BUILT, I DUNNO, SIX, AND THEN THE 1960 OLD FIFTIES, MAYBE IT'S ONLY 1100 SQUARE FOOT.
HOWEVER, TODAY THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOT IN BROOKLYN SIZE, AND WHAT HAVE YOU, IT STARTED WITH ABOUT 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
AND IT ONLY GETS BIGGER PEOPLE DON'T COME TO THE CITY AND SAID, I LIKE TO BUILD A SMALLER HOME OR TAKE YOUR HOME DOWN TO BUILD A SMALLER ONE.
IT'S ALWAYS SAY, KNOCK IT DOWN.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM JUST DO ADDITIONS.
AND A LOT OF THE TIME, THE ADDITION IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER.
I'M BEGINNING TO EVEN, BECAUSE DUE TO COVID, I HAD SOME PEOPLE THAT'S REQUESTING FOR PROPERTY THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY HAS THEIR OWN BATHROOM UNIQUE TO COVID-19.
THEY BASICALLY HAVE A LARGE FAMILY.
DO YOU KNOW, LIKE NOT SOME DIVIDE, BUT EVERYONE HAS A BATHROOM.
SO IF YOU GET INFECTED, YOU STAY IN THAT LITTLE CORNER OF YOURS, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT TOPIC.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT IN THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IN THIS AREA, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS UNIQUE.
AND I SAID THIS BEFORE, TOO, IN THE PAST, THE HOUSE WAS IN THAT, THAT THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE IN HOLLAND HOLLAND CLASS IS VERY UNIQUE, IS THAT IT'S AT THE BORDERLINE.
IF YOU GO DOWN DOWN A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH OF THE, UH, THE KNOTS, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, THE HOUSE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.
HOW ABOUT, I BET YOU WOULD GO UP NORTH THE HOUSE OF BUILT MORE RECENT.
I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE EIGHTIES, NINETIES, 2000 WAS FILL THE HOUSE TEND TO BE LARGER.
AND EVEN, EVEN THE COMMISSIONER FORMER COMMISSIONERS THAT WAS SITTING HERE, WE HAD APPROVED TRACK AND HOMES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 50 HOMES OR TALL HOMES THAT ARE IN THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT.
OR SO I'M NOT SAYING EVERY SINGLE HOUSE THAT COMES ALONG, WE APPROVED IT, BUT WE HAVE APPROVED IT.
AND FOR ME TO SAY THAT THIS DOES NOT FIT INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I FIND IT THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE LARGE HOME AREA, BUT YET IT'S NOT CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE SMALL AREA.
AND I LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOES NOT DEDUCT IT FROM THE VIEW OF OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
AND THE FACT THAT IT IS AN EXISTING TWO STORY HOME, AND THAT THE FACT THAT CERTAIN PART OF THE HOUSE IS EXISTING CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THAT YOU CAN STILL SEE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I'M NOT THERE, BUT YOU CAN STILL SEE IT.
UM, WHETHER IT'S THE FRONT YARD, THE BACKYARD OR WENT UP, BUT MOST OF THE VIEW ARE REALLY UP TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST OF, OF THE CITY ACTUALLY NOTES THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST OF THE CITY.
SO IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF HE CAN'T, THEY MADE THE WINDOW PORTION.
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I JUST, I'M NOT SURE IN THAT FACT, WE JUST SAY, I'M SAYING THAT MY FINDING IS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED LARGER HOMES.UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE VIEWS OF THE NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY, RIGHT OVER THERE, WHICH TO SOME EXTENT YOU STAND ON THE DRIVEWAY, IF YOU HAND, SOME OF I'VE BEEN TO THE DRIVEWAY OF THE OWNERS AND ALSO THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR ON THE DRIVEWAY PORTION, YOU IT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THE MASS OF THE BUILDING OFF THE SECOND STORY ADDITION THAT WHEN YOU'RE STANDING IN THE DRIVEWAY, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU SEND IT ON THE HOUSE ITSELF BECAUSE IT'S LIKE ABOUT EIGHT FEET HIGHER.
ALSO, IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, SO THE V WILL NOT BE THERE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, CAUSE I WASN'T, I CAN'T BE UP THERE, BUT I'VE GIVEN THAT SAID, I KNOW, I DON'T SEE.
AND I DON'T FIND ANY FINDINGS THAT I CANNOT APPROVE THIS PROJECT WHERE THAT STARTED AND DONE.
DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADD ON? I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER LEWIS AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE US, YOU KNOW, AND HOW THEY HAVE A FRIEND THAT WE FELL THE LIST AND IT WAS JUST TWO PAGES, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS VERY GENEROUS OF THE RESIDENT TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE, UM, IN, FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ALL PARTIES.
UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID EXCEPT FOR THE WINDOW, BECAUSE IF HE GOES DOWN OUTSIDE THE HOUSE AND LOOKED DOWN, HE COULD SIT WITH DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WINDOW MAKE MATTER.
SO, UM, ANYWAYS, THAT BEING SAID, UM, IT COULD ALSO BRING VALUE TO ITS NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS FROM A REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE.
UH, YOU CAN USE ANYTHING WITHIN TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE TO ADD VALUE TO YOUR OWN PROPERTY.
SO, I MEAN, I TOO CANNOT, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT AS WELL.
AND I, UH, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SARAH, UM, I THINK, UH, BASED UPON THE FACTS OF, OF THE VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS CONDITION.
AND UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE SEEN A LIST OF SEAWATER PRIOR TIMES THAT YOU HAVE VISITED PERMISSION AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WHENEVER IT COMES TO THE BOTTOM OF FINDING A SOLUTION FOR YOU GUYS.
SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, AND HEARING THE RESIDENTS, UH, CONCERNS THEN FOR YOU TO, UH, TAKE THEIR CONCERNS AND TAKE THEM IN AND MAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS OF DECREASING THE HOUSE SIZE THAT YOU DID, UM, WAS THE COMMENDABLE AND WHAT THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER TWO, ZERO DASH ZERO SEVEN WITH SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS, NUMBER TWO, ZERO DASH ZERO ONE.
IS THERE A SECOND? YOU HAVE A SECOND, UM, FOR, FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MODIFICATION, UH, TO ADDRESS THE, THE SORT OF VIEW DOWN INTO, I APOLOGIZE, MR. I HAD WRITTEN DOWN IN HIS NAME.
I, UH, I, I, I WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS A SLIGHT MODIFICATION, UM, TO PREVENT THERE FROM BEING SORT OF A DIRECT VIEW DOWN INTO, AND TO HIS PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE EVEN SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE OR, OR, OR WORKABLE.
UH, I WOULD, UH, IF, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN DO, AND I DON'T KNOW, JOANNE IS THAT, UM, IF I MAY, IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PLANS ON, ON THAT SIDE, I KNOW THERE'S A FIRST STORY WINDOW AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, THAT'S EXISTING.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS YEAH, THE, THE, UH, THIS IS A BATHROOM, I BELIEVE A BATHROOM WINDOW AND THIS, THIS IS A WINDOW TO THE NURSERY.
THIS CAN BE EASILY MOVED TO THE, TO THE FRONT, TO COMPLY WITH BUILDING CODE.
QUICK QUESTION THAT, THAT BACK THAT BACK WINDOW.
UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND START.
IT WAS QUITE LARGE BASED ON, UH, BASED ON WHAT I DECIDE
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THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT FROM WHAT I, SO HOW, YEAH.HOW BIG IS THE WINDOW? LET ME LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OTHER VIEWS IN THE BACK THAT I UNDERSTAND BATHROOM WINDOW RIGHT NEXT TO A BATH TUB.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN, YOU CAN CONDITION IT TO BE FROSTED BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WOULD WANT THE WINDOWS.
I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT WOULD BE A FAIR CONDITION.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
AND IF, IF MR. GUTIERREZ WOULD, UH, WOULD GIVE ME THE HONOR OF AMENDING HIS MOTION ON THAT, OR I'LL MAKE MY OWN MOTION WITH THAT, THAT'D BE A WINDOW, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE BATHROOM HERE.
THE ONE THAT SHE'S, THAT JOANNE IS, UH, IS POINTING OUT WITH HER CURSOR RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN ON TOP? YES.
THE RESTAURANT, IT'S A FIVE AND A HALF BY EIGHT.
AND MY, UH, UH, IF COMMISSIONER
THEN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER LEWIS, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ITEMS, CONVICTION BEFORE COMMENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON NON-HEARING ADAMS. SO THE MISSION REPORTS,
[COMMISSION REPORTS/COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS]
COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. THANK YOU.BEFORE WE GET BACK, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THE PRIOR PROJECT THAT I APPROVED, UM, UH, IN, REGARDLESS TO WHERE YOUR GRAY IS, UM, THAT THE COMMUNITY GIVES ME HOLD ON REAL QUICK POINT OF WORD, OR ARE WE ABLE TO DISCUSS PRIOR PROJECTS? I JUST DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO A BROWN ACT ISSUE.
UH, REPHRASE MY COMMENT IN ADDRESSING A SPEAKER'S COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY.
UH, THE PRIMARY OR ANY ACTION THAT I MADE, I WILL ALWAYS BE IN COMPLIANT, UH, BASED UPON THE STATE, FEDERAL AND CITY LAWS AND, UH, EACH RESIDENT, UH, REGARDLESS OF THEIR HOUSE OR HOW IT LOOKS, WHATEVER, BUT EACH RESIDENT HAS IT RIGHT ON HER LAW, UH, TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
AND THEN THAT RESIDENT IS GOING THROUGH THAT PLANNING PROCESS.
THEN THAT IS A LEGAL ACTION, UH, BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION CHOOSE TO DENY OR APPROVE WHATEVER HAPPENED.
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PROPOSAL IS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION.THE CITY ATTORNEY GOT KICKED OFF OF ZOOM.
WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES, BUT I HAVE HER ON THE PHONE ON SPEAKER.
CAN WE CALL YOU ON THE CONFERENCE PHONE? GIVE US A SECOND.
THEY'RE GET IT UP AND RUNNING.
THANK YOU FOR MOVING UP HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE THAT SPECIAL COUNSEL STAIRS.
YEAH, WE HAVE HY-VEE YOU'RE ON SPEAKER NOW.
SO I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE ELECTION.
[a. Election of Vice-Chairperson]
OF VICE CHAIRPERSON.I LIKE TO NOMINATE A COMMISSIONER FOR SARAH TO BE VICE CHAIR.
ANYONE HAS ANOTHER NOMINATIONS, IF NOT, I THINK WE HAVE TO
UM, I'M JUST THINKING OF WHAT, UM, EARLIER, WHEN WE HAVE ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, UH, ALL FORMER COMMISSIONERS CAME IN AND WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST.
NOW, WOULD THIS BE A TIME TO HAVE A DISCUSSIONS? THIS WOULD BE OUR FIRST TIME I BELIEVE SO.
WHETHER IT'S OUR COMMENTS OR ONE OF THE THINGS IVY.
MAKE A BREAK COMMENT, BUT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY EXTENDED DISCUSSION ON ANYTHING.
THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
UM, I'LL JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSIONS WITH EVERYTHING, SO IT WOULDN'T DO WE ADDRESS, UM, LET'S SAY THE RESIDENT WORK, ASK QUESTIONS, UH, THE ORAL COMMUNICATION.
DO WE ADDRESS IT AT THAT TIME OR DO WE NOT ADDRESS AT THAT TIME? UM, I THINK YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO, I MEAN, THE COMMISSIONERS COULD CHOOSE TO BRIEFLY COMMENT ON A, ON A PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT AGAIN, THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY DISCUSSION BEYOND A BRIEF COMMENT OR, OR, UM, POTENTIAL RESPONSE IF YOU WANT STAFF TO RESPOND WITH SOMETHING.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE, WE CAN'T BE DISCUSSING THINGS THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
SO WHAT WE DO FOR COUNCIL, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, THE CITY MANAGER WILL RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WANTS TO ADDRESS, SO WOULD YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE, I CAN DO THAT.
[3. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT]
DEVELOPMENT TO WORK? THERE'S A REPORT COMING FROM MARCH 9TH, 2000.I'LL LET JOANNE PROVIDE THAT UPDATE.
BEFORE MARCH 9TH, IT'S GOING TO BE THE PROJECT THAT IS, THAT IS GOING TO BE REVIEWED IS FOR THE PIONEER SCHOOL SITES ON, ON, UM, ROLAND.
IT'S A LARGE, IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE PROJECT, THAT INFORMATION FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, THE PLANS, AND SOME OF THE RESPONSE, THE RESPONSES TO COMMENTS FROM COMMENTS RECEIVED DURING THE, THE, UM, THE NOTICE OF AVAILABILITY PORTION, UM, HAS BEEN ALREADY POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
I'LL EMAIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION, A LINK TO THAT, SO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO GET
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THAT AHEAD OF TIME.UM, PRIOR TO THE MARCH 9TH MEETING, SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAT HAD ALREADY BEEN INFORMED OF THAT LINK.
AND WE SENT OUT THE HEARING NOTICES WITH THAT, WITH THAT INFORMATION, THE ADDRESS OF, OF THAT, WHERE, WHERE IT'S LOCATED ON THE WEBSITE.
SO EVERY, UM, EVERYBODY WITHIN 300 FEET OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS WELL AWARE OF IT.
AND SOME EVEN OUTSIDE OF THAT 300 FEET.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND EMAIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION, A LINK TO THAT FLIPS TO THAT SECTION IN THE WEBSITE THAT CONTAINS THAT INFORMATION SO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO REVIEW IT AHEAD OF TIME.
[4. CITY COUNCIL ACTION]
SO CONSTABLE ACTIONS, NO.THERE'S NO COUNCIL ACTIONS TO UPDATE.
YOU GUYS JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, UH, BEING AMENABLE AND RELOCATING UP HERE FOR THIS ACCIDENT.
AND SINCE THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS CONSIDERED, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT, I DON'T WANT TO, WHAT TIME