* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. [00:00:01] GOOD EVENING. EVERYONE [CALL TO ORDER] WELCOMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF JANUARY 22ND. I'M SORRY. 26, 2021 AT 7:00 PM. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEGINS. UM, OKAY. SO ON MARCH FOUR, 2020, GOVERNOR NEWSPRINT PROCLAIM A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN CALIFORNIA AS A RESULT OF THE THREAT OF COVID-19. SO AS MARCH 17, 2020, UM, GOVERNANCE WAS AN ISSUE EXECUTIVE ORDER IN 29, 20 SUSPENDING CERTAIN REQUIREMENT OF THE BROWN ACT RELATING TO THE CONDUCT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, THE SUITS OR THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS, PLANNING COMMISSIONS MAY ATTEND MEETING COMMISSION PLANNINGS BY PHONE OR BY, UM, IS THAT REQUIRE, UH, IS TO MAKE AVAILABLE A PHYSICAL LOCATION FROM WHICH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY OBSERVE THE MEETING AND OFFER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON JUNE 18, 2020, THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE GUIDANCE MANDATING THAT PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA WEAR CLOTH MASK COVERING AND PACIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES, INCLUDING WHEN THEY ARE INSIDE OR IN LINE TO ENTER ANY INDOOR PUBLIC SPACES. SO I SEE THAT ALL OF US ARE WEARING MASKS, DO THE ONGOING COVID-19 EMERGENCY IN PURSUIT TO STATE AND COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTORS. THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS WILL HAVE LIMITED SEATING AVAILABLE ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN PERSON, ALL PERSON ATTENDING THE MEETINGS ARE REQUIRED TO WEAR CLOTH FACE COVERING AND OBSERVED SOCIAL DISTANCE AND PROTOCOLS. MEMBER OF THE PELVIS MAY ALSO WATCH CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING LIVE ON THE CITY WEBSITE. AND IT HAS M W W DOT WEST COVINA.ORG UNDER THE, UM, WATCH LIVE TAB OR THROUGH THE WEST COVINA YOUTUBE. IF YOU EXPERIENCE SYMPTOMS SUCH AS FEVER, CHILLS, COUGH, SHORTNESS OF BREATH, OR DIFFICULTY BREATHING, FATIGUE OR SORE THROAT, THE CITY REQUESTS THAT YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING FROM HOME BY WATCHING THE MEETING LIVE VIA THE LINK SET FORTH ABOVE IMMOBILE, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN LIEU OF ATTENDING THE MEETING IN PERSON MEMBERS, THE PAPA MAMA SAID THE PUBLIC CAN SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH EMAIL OR ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMISSION BY TELEPHONE USING THE METHOD DESCRIBED BELOW. SO YOU CAN EMAIL TO US BEFORE FIVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION 5:00 PM AND BY TELEPHONE ASSESSABILITY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION BY TELEPHONE DURING ORAL COMMUNICATION OR PUBLIC HEARING MAY CONTACT THE CITY CLERK BY EMAIL CITY_CLERK@WESTCOVINA.ORG OR BY TELEPHONE, WHICH IS NINE THREE NINE EIGHT FOUR THREE THREE BY 5:30 PM. ON THE DAY OF THE COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS REGARDING ADDRESSING THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, ANY PERSON BUSHING TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA OR ON ANY OTHER MATTER WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTIONS TO ASK TO COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH IS PINK OR YELLOW CARD. SO IT'S ON THE PODIUM RIGHT THERE. AND PLEASE IDENTIFY, IDENTIFY ON THE SPEAKER CARD, WHETHER YOU ARE SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA ITEM OR NON AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE TO SPEAK ON A NON-AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE HEARD DOING ORAL COMMUNICATIONS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, SECTIONS OF THE AGENDA ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ARE LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES, GENERALLY COMMENTS IT'S A LIMIT TO FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, UNLESS FURTHER TIME IS GRANTED BY THE CHAIRPERSON. YOUR PERSON MAY ALSO ADD HIS OR HER DISCRETION FOR THE LIMIT, THE TIME OF EACH SPEAKER IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A HUGE NUMBER OF, UM, SPEAKERS AND OR TO ENSURE THAT THE BUSINESSES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS EFFECTIVELY CONDUCTED ANY TESTIMONY OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE MATTER SET FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HEARD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT ITEM. UM, I LIKE TO WELCOME ALL THE RESIDENTS, STAFF APPLICANTS, UM, I'LL, UM, CITY STAFF. AND ALSO WE HAVE FOUR NEW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DO, UM, WE KIND OF HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND MEDITATION AND LIVIA, BUT SARAH IS GOING TO HELP ME, BUT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SWORN AND ALL THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE CALL AFTER THAT. SO CAN YOU PLEASE JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND PLEDGING REGIONS? [00:05:08] CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THE PLEDGE, PLEASE? GIVE US A SECOND AND PAULINA WILL BE SWEARING [SWEARING IN OF NEW COMMISSIONERS] IN ON THE COMMISSIONERS, SORRY. YES, WE WILL START WITH A SPEAR SARAH. HI, LAVERA MATHARA DO SOLEMNLY DO ONLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT. I WILL GO TO COURT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST THAT ENEMY AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, OR AN END DOMESTIC THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO THE CONSTITUTE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUTION OF CALIFORNIA. AND I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY. DID I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION AND THAT I WILL WELL AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES, CHARGE THE DUTIES UPON I'M ABOUT TO ENTER I CAN HAVE COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COME TO THE FRONT [00:10:04] I'M NICHOLAS SCOTT LEWIS. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THAT I, THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES WARRANTED. THE BEST OF THAT? I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF THE VAPE. AND I WILL WELL, AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER. THE CONSTITUTION. . THANK YOU ALL. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. I LIKE TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO CONGRATULATE ALL FOUR NEW APPOINTED, UM, COMMISSION, UM, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. SO THANK YOU. , IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY WORK TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS OR SO THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA MAKE DECISIONS NOT ONLY BASED ON EACH INDIVIDUAL, UM, UM, RESIDENTS SOMETIME WITH DEALING WITH TONIGHT, WE HAVE A HUGE HOSPITALS THAT WE HAVE NOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS, OR HAVEN'T HAD A NEW HOSPITAL SINCE 1960 AND 60 SOMETHING, 62, I BELIEVE SO. IT'S THE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO ALSO MAKE PLAN LOOKING TOWARD THE PAST, ALSO AT THE PRESENCE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, AND THEN ALSO TO PROTECT US AND TO HELP US HOW OUR FUTURE, THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AND ITS RESIDENTS REFLECTING EVERYONE INVOLVED IN OUR CITY. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THAT. AND ALSO I'M GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A MOMENT FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS, OUR BRAND NEW COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, INTRODUCE HIMSELF. SO WE HAVE TONIGHT COUNCILMAN DARRIO CASTELLANO'S COMMISSIONERS, UM, HAD APPOINTED NICK LEWIS AND THEN MAYOR LARRY LOPEZ COMMISSIONERS APPOINTED BY, UM, BRIAN GUTIERREZ. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE COUNCILMEN SALEO DIAZ. HER COMMISSION APPOINTED IS LINEAR, UM, SRO, AND THEN COUNCILMAN BRIAN TABATA BY IS, UM, A BRAND NEW COMMISSIONERS IS SHELBY WILLIAMS. SO IF YOU COULD TAKE A MOMENT AND WE CAN START WITH, UM, THE VEER, SARAH, TO LET US KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF. UM, HI, UH, I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF WEST COVINA, SO HARD TO TALK WITH. UM, MY PARENTS MOVED HERE IN 1970 AND I WAS JUST FIVE YEARS OLD. I ATTENDED MERSAD ELEMENTARY, UH, CAMERON JUNIOR, WHICH WE WERE THE LAST CLASS TO GRADUATE BEFORE IT WAS CONVERTED TO AN ELEMENTARY. AND THEN I ATTENDED WEST GIVING A HIGH SCHOOL AND GRADUATED IN, UH, AS A SPARTAN IN 1983. [00:15:02] UH, AS A YOUNG ADULT, I MOVED AWAY AND RETURNED TO 1998 TO, UH, CARE FOR MY ELDERLY PARENTS. AND, UM, I HAVE TWO WONDERFUL CHILDREN, ANTONIO TWENTY-TWO EVA, SHE'S, UH, 15, AND THEY ATTENDED JUBILEE CHRISTIAN, AND WHAT'S GIVEN A HIGH SCHOOL. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'D GONE THROUGH OUR, OUR DISTRICT AS WELL. UM, MY BACKGROUND IS IN REAL ESTATE AND MORTGAGE, AND THIS YEAR MARKS 20 YEARS, UH, THAT I HAVE IN THIS INDUSTRY. ALL THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW A BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY AND, UM, I WELCOME THIS OPPORTUNITY, UH, AS A VOLUNTEER POSITION AND LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS NICHOLAS LEWIS. I'M SURE SOME OF YOU KNOW, ME AS THE ELECTED CITY CLERK OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA SINCE 2013, I'VE ALSO SERVED, UH, FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS PRIOR TO THIS AS A COMMUNITY AND SENIOR SERVICES COMMISSIONER. UM, IN ADDITION, UM, THIS CITY IS MY HOMETOWN. I GREW UP HERE. UM, MY FAMILY IS THREE GENERATIONS STRONG IN THIS CITY. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, COMING HERE AND, AND HELPING TO FORGE THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY IS CERTAINLY AN HONOR. AND, UH, SOMETHING I CERTAINLY DON'T TAKE LIGHTLY GIVEN MY ROOTS IN THIS CITY. UM, AND, AND AGAIN, I, I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THIS, UM, BY, BY WAY OF BACKGROUND. I AM, UH, I'M AN ATTORNEY. I, UH, I MANAGE A LAW FIRM IN SAN DEMAS, CALIFORNIA. UM, AND, UH, AGAIN, I THINK I KNOW A GOOD DEAL OF, OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, SEEING YOU ALL AND, UH, WORKING WITH EVERYONE ON THIS COMMISSION MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, UM, COMMISSIONER SHELBY WILLIAMS. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR LAST COMMISSIONER, BRIAN GUTIERREZ. YES. AND, UH, WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO'S HERE TODAY AND THOSE WHO ARE, UH, ONLINE LISTENING AS WELL. AND I AM, IT'S AN EXTREME HONOR, UH, TO BE APPOINTED BY MAYOR LOPEZ, UH, VRO, UH, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND IT'LL BE MY COMMITMENT TO ALWAYS WORK IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR RESIDENTS, UH, GOING FORWARD AND END OF THE DAY, THE RESIDENTS OR OUR VOICES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEIR, THEIR BELIEFS ARE WHAT COUNTS IN THE PEOPLE'S BUILDING. AND JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND, I GREW UP IN WEST COVINA. I LIVED HERE SINCE I WAS A CHILD. I WENT TO NOGALES HIGH SCHOOL. I GREW UP IN THE, IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM, ALSO HAVING AUTISM ASPERGER'S. AND DESPITE THOSE STRUGGLES, I I'M CURRENTLY THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS WITH A MAJOR RECORD LABEL, UH, WITH SONY MUSIC AND WITH DELL RECORDS. AND, AND MY, I HAVE A BUSINESS BACKGROUND AND MY COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, WILL ALWAYS BE, UH, IMPORTANT TO ME. AND I WILL ALWAYS WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AT WEST COVINA. AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MAYOR, UH, LET THE LOPEZ VIEJO, UH, FOR HER COMMITMENT AND HER DEDICATION, HER PASSION OF FOOTBALL, ALL SHE HAS DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN PUTTING THE COMMUNITY FIRST. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND, UM, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF SINCE EVERYONE'S INTRODUCED. SO WHOEVER'S WATCHING FROM HOME ALSO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND. I'M BEING APPOINTED BY TONY VU AND I LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE PRETTY MUCH IN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. HOWEVER, AS A YOUNG ADULT, I MOVED HERE SINCE THE NIGHT, 2000, I BELIEVE IN 2000. SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME AND I SERVE AS THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UM, FIVE YEARS NOW, I BELIEVE. UM, AND I LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT EACH ONE OF US WE HAVE IN WEST COVINA IS OVER 110,000 RESIDENTS THAT LIVES HERE. THAT MEAN EACH ONE OF US REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 20,000, 22,000 OR SO, UH, RESIDENTS. SO EVERY DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE, UM, HOPEFULLY WE KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY AFFECTING OUR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS AND MONTHS, BUT WE ALSO THINKING ABOUT ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN WEST COVINA AND WE'RE SERVING UNDER, UH, CITY COUNCILS WHO APPOINTED US AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO, [00:20:01] UM, THANK TONY COUNCILMAN TONY WHO APPOINTED ME. I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT HIM, BUT, UM, LOTS OF THINGS I NEED TO DO. I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT WE'RE HAVING BRAND NEW FOR COMMISSIONER, BUT THAT IS VERY EXCITING. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORK WITH EVERYONE. UM, PAULINA, CAN YOU PLEASE ROLL, CALL IT EVENING AND WELCOME ON BOARD WHEN YOU COME HERE? UH, COMMISSIONERS, UM, COMMISSIONER VISCERA, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ HERE, CAN THEY FIND HER LOUIS ROSEN, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS PRESIDENT. ALL RIGHT, TARA, HANG HERE. [1. Regular meeting, December 8, 2020] WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. AND DOES HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER EIGHT, 2020? I DO HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION ACTUALLY, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE FOUR NEW COMMISSIONERS HERE. UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING COMMISSIONERS TEND TO ABSTAIN FROM APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UH, WHEN THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE MEETING. UM, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF STAFF AT THIS JUNCTURE? SINCE WE ONLY HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER WAS HERE, UH, AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, I'LL LET, UM, OUR CITY ATTORNEY RESPOND TO THAT IVY. I WE'RE TRYING TO UNMUTE HER. UM, I THINK AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE FOR, UH, NEW COMMISSIONERS, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED APPROVAL ON THE MINUTES, SO WE WOULD REQUEST IF YOU COULD APPROVE IT. UM, SO WE CAN GET APPROVAL ON THEM ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND. OKAY. SO THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER EIGHT, 20, 20 APPROVED AS SUBMITTED. SO PAULINE, DO YOU NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL UNLESS YOU'D LIKE ME TO, I CAN DO THAT. UM, COMMISSIONER PROCERA OH, SORRY. WE'RE VOTING ON, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 8TH, 2020 PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU, JOANNE. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? OKAY. IS THERE A CITY? IT'S A CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY, GREAT. SO, UH, UH, THERE'S NO NEED FOR NEW, THERE'S NO NEED FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO ABSTAIN FROM THE MINUTES IF THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, REVIEW THE PRIOR MEETING MINUTES. OH, WE CAN GO BACK TO ROKU. COMMISSIONER VISCERA. YEAH. YEAH. UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ. YES. COMMISSIONER LEWIS, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, UH, CHAIR HANG. AYE. WELL, MOVING ON TO ORAL COMMUNICATION. SO THIS IS THE TIME WHEN ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER WITHIN THE SCOPE OF DUTIES, ASSIGNED TO THE COMMISSION, RELATING TO NON AGENDIZE OR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. OTHER OTHER MATTERS INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED WHEN THE ITEM IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ALL ORAL COMMUNICATIONS THAT YOU'RE PURSUING MAY IMPOSE REASONABLE LIMITATIONS ON PUBLIC COMMENTS TO ASSURE AN ORDERLY AND TIMELY MEETING THE ROUGH, UM, BROWN ACT LIMITS TO PLANNING COMMISSION, AND STUFF'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS MEETING. THOSE, YOUR COMMENT MAY BE AGENDIZED FOR A FUTURE MEETING OR REFER TO STAFF. THE COMMISSION MAY ASK QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION. IF YOU DESIRE AT THIS TIME BY POLICY OF THE COMMISSION ORAL COMMUNICATION AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL 15 MINUTES PERSON WHO ARE NOT AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME MAY DO SO CONTINUATION OF ORAL COMMUNICATION LATER ON THE AGENDA. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? IF I COULD ASK FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO PROVIDE ME THEIR SPEAKER CARD. OH, OKAY. IF I, UM, SO IF NO, ONE'S COMING FOR ORAL COMMUNICATION. SO WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. [2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 20-07] THIS, UM, WHICH IS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. NUMBER 27. THIS MATTER WAS CONTINUED FOR THE NOVEMBER 24, 2020 REGULAR MEETING. JOANNE [00:25:01] BURNS WILL PRESENT THE STAFF MEETING. SO IT SAYS SLIGHT MODIFICATION, NUMBER 20 DASH OH ONE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW NUMBER 20 DASH TWO. ACTUALLY, THIS IS THE APPLICANT IS TORONTO PNEUMONIA AND LOCATION IS 1208 SOUTH HOLLAND CREST DRIVE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN 1868 SQUARE FOOT. SECOND STORY ADDITION IS 734 SQUARE FOOT, SINGLE STORY ADDITION, 952 SQUARE FOOT, THREE CAR GARAGE TO BE PLACED EXISTING TWO CAR GARAGE AND A 520 SQUARE FOOT BALCONY TO THE EXISTING 4,344 SQUARE FOOT. SECOND STORY'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. THE PROPOSED HOUSE WILL HAVE A TOTAL FOUR AREA OF 7,465 SQUARE FOOT EXCEEDING THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A SLIGHT MODIFICATION TO EXCEED THE 25 FOOT BUILDING HEIGHTS BY TWO FEET. AND, UM, WHO WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTATIONS? JOANNE WON'T BE ATLANTA WILL BE PROVIDING THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. UM, JUST BEFORE I, UM, GIVE MY PRESENTATION JUST FOR, FOR THE RECORD. UM, SINCE THIS IS A CONTINUED ITEM, WHICH WAS CONTINUED WAS, WAS, WHICH WAS INITIALLY CONTINUED, UM, THE NOVEMBER 10TH, 2020 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, TO, TO THE DECEMBER, THE FIRST MEETING, THE FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN DECEMBER, UM, AND THEN WAS CONTINUED TO, TO THIS, TO A DATE UNCERTAIN AND WAS RE NOTICED TO TODAY'S MEETING. AND THE STAFF REPORT FROM THE NOVEMBER 10TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HAS BEEN ATTACHED, WAS ATTACHED IN WHAT, UM, AND WAS PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT, UH, WITH THEIR AGENDA PACKAGE AND HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE, THE MINUTES THAT WAS JUST APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY WAS ONE OF THE MINUTES WAS FOR THE NOVEMBER 10TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I'M I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE PROJECT IN DETAIL, UM, AS IT WAS, IT WAS GONE OVER IN DETAIL AT THE NOVEMBER 10TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT I WILL BRUSH UP ON SOME OF THE BASICS. SO JUST THAT'S JUST FOR THE RECORD. OKAY, GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE PRESENTATION JUST, UH, AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, THE APPLICATION IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS TO EXCEED THE 25 FOOT THRESHOLD FOR THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE OR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE FOR LOTS OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, OR THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS, IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET. THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING A TOTAL OF 7,465 SQUARE FEET. AND THIS TOTAL INCLUDES THE GARAGE. YEAH. UH, THE SLIGHT MODIFICATION IS REQUESTED BECAUSE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OR HOMES IS 25 FEET. AND THE PR IN THE PROJECT, THE EXISTING HOUSE IS CURRENTLY AT APPROXIMATELY 27 FEET. SO THE APPLICANTS WOULD LIKE TO, TO MEET THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE FOR THE ADDITION, SO THAT IT'S CONSISTENT. SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR A TWO, TWO FEET HEIGHT, UM, EXTRA HEIGHT TO COMPLY, OR TO MEET THAT 27 FOOT HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE. THE PROJECT REQUIRES THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW BECAUSE IT'S VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD HERE IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN. THAT NOTE THAT THE EXISTING GARAGE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, AND THAT GARAGE IS PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED AS PART OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE THE PROJECT WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE A THREE CAR GARAGE SINCE YOU ARE OKAY. SINCE THE PROJECT REQUIRED WOULD REQUIRE A THREE CAR GARAGE SINCE THEY, THE, THE OVERALL FLOOR PLAN OR PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN WOULD HAVE MORE THAN FOUR BEDROOMS. YOUR IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THE PROPOSED THE PR THE EXISTING HOUSE. IS IT A PORTION [00:30:01] OF, OF THE EXISTING HOUSE IS HIGHLIGHTED? UH, THE FIRST FLOOR IS HIGHLIGHTED IN ADDITION, THE EXISTING HOUSE IN THE PROPOSED ADDITION IN THE FIRST FLOOR IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. THE SECOND, THE SECOND FLOOR WITH ADDITION, RIGHT ALONG RIGHT ALONG HERE, UH, WITH EXISTING TWO STORY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN PURPLE WHILE A PORTION OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE SITE PLAN. THE PROJECT DOES COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIRED SETBACKS IN ME, UM, THAT PERTAINS TO AREA DISTRICT THREE, THE NOVEMBER 10TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THE ITEM WAS CONTINUED FOR, FOR TWO, BASICALLY TWO REASONS. ONE WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDED THE APPLICANT DIRECTION TO INSTALL STORY POLES ON SITE, TO GET A BASIC IDEA ON THE CON MASSING THAT THE PROPOSED ADDITION POST HOUSE WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL SITE. AND TWO WAS ALL WAS SO THAT THE APPLICANT COULD ALSO HAVE TIME TO PREPARE A LINE OF SIGHT VIEW, UM, OR PLAN FOR THE PR FOR THE PROPOSED ADDITION, AS, AS IT RELATES TO THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST, UM, EAST SIDE, WHICH ON, ON THE ARIEL, IN THE PROJECT, UH, PROJECTED ON THE PRESENTATION OR THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, THIS IS THE BIG, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE LINE OF SIGHT WOULD BE FROM THAT, UM, EAST SIDE NEIGHBOR HERE. SO I'VE, UM, I'VE TAKEN PICTURES FROM, UM, THE SITE, UM, FROM THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE PROJECT SITE, THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH ON THE TOP, RIGHT, RIGHT ALONG HERE SHOWS THE STORY POLES APPROXIMATELY IN THIS AREA, IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN ON THE STREET, UM, UM, WHERE I AM POINTING AT THE ARROW RIGHT ALONG HERE ON, ON HASA DRAWN DAY DRIVE. SO I TOOK THE PICTURE STANDING ON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, UM, OR FORWARD. SO IT'S, IT IS, IT IS VISIBLE. IT'S A TWO STORY HOUSE ON A HILL UNHEALTH SITE. SO IT IS VISIBLE. THIS, THE PHOTOGRAPH AT THE BOTTOM IS TAKEN FROM ACROSS THE SUBJECTS ALL ACROSS THE SUBJECT SITE, NEAR THE SUBURBAN WATER IN FRONT OF THIS URBAN WATER COMPANY, RIGHT ALONG THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE THE ARROW'S POINTING, TOOK THE PICTURE ORDERED TOWARDS THE HOUSE AND THE STORY POLES AND BE SEEN RIGHT ALONG OF THERE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN RIGHT IN FRONT, ON THIS, ON HOLLAND CREST DRIVE, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DRIVEWAY WITH, UH, A CAR OR A PEDESTRIAN. IT WAS WALKING ACROSS RIGHT ALONG HERE, OR, OR A CAR WAS DRIVING. THIS IS WHAT THE STORY PULLS UP HERE IS WHAT THEY WOULD SEE THESE, THESE, THE STORY POLES, UM, ON THE PROJECTOR. NOW THIS, THE PHOTOGRAPH ON THE TOP WAS TAKEN FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY, LOOKING TOWARDS THE SUBJECT SITE. YOU CAN SEE THE STORY PULLS UP RIGHT ALONG HERE. AND THE BOTTOM PHOTOGRAPH IS, UM, IT IS, UM, TOWARDS THE KNEE. THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE FOR THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY THAT SHOWS THAT WHERE THEIR PREDOMINANT VIEW SHED IS, WHICH IS NORTH, UM, NORTH OF THE PROPERTY DOWN, DOWN THE HILL, RIGHT. UH, UM, POINTING TOWARDS THIS AREA. THE, WE, THERE IS SOME, UH, UH, SOME, UH, UH, UM, SOME VIEW BLOCKAGE THERE FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY. HOWEVER, THERE, THERE, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY VIEW PROTECTION ORDINANCE. AND THE FACT THAT, UM, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR VIEW, UM, FROM THE DRIVEWAY [00:35:01] WOULD NOT TOTALLY PREVENT THE NEIGHBOR FROM ENJOYING THEIR PROPERTY. UM, AND THERE IS NO PRIVACY IMPACTS FROM DIRECT DIRECTLY TOWARDS OR TO, OR FROM ANY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS ALONG OR ADJACENT TO THE SITE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT. UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP DURING STAFF STAFF'S REVIEW IS THE ROUGH DESIGN, WHICH IS, UM, OPTION ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS A DUTCH GABLE. AND OPTION TWO IS JUST A REGULAR GABLE. THE EXISTING HOUSE DOES HAVE A DUTCH GABLE. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICANT GO WITH OPTION ONE SO THAT IT IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE ROUGH DESIGN OF THE EXISTING HOUSE THOUGH. HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS COMPARING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DUTCH GABLE AND THE GABLE ROOF, THE APPLICANT, HOWEVER, THIS PREPARED THAT, UM, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, GO WITH OPTION TWO. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. UM, HERE IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OR, OR THE PROPOSED HOUSE WITH THE, WITH A DUTCH GABLE, AGAIN, AS PROPOSED, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE WOULD BE TWO 27 FEET AND IT'S TO MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE. THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL WRITTEN IN THE RESOLUTION THAT REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A HEIGHT SURVEY OF EXISTING HOUSE PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE, AND ALSO A HEIGHT SURVEY PRIOR TO FRAME TWO, BUILT TO THE BUILDING AND SAFETY FRAMING INSPECTION OF THE, THE PROPOSED OR THE, THE NEW, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO IN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION CANNOT BE, CAN NOT BE TALLER THAN 27 FEET OR THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, WHICHEVER IS LESS. AND THAT IS WHAT THE CON, UM, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IN THEIR RESOLUTION STATES YOUR IS A SITE ELEVATION FACING HOLLAND CREST, THE OTHER SIDE ELEVATION. UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE DECK HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS EXISTING IN THE DECK, AND PURPLE IS PROPOSED THE REAL, THE REAR ELEVATION. AND HERE IS THE RENDERING OF THE REAR ELEVATION WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE PROJECT, UM, WITH THE DESIGN OPTION ONE, THE APPLICANTS IS I DIDN'T GO OVER THE LINE OF SIGHT DETAILS BECAUSE THE APPLICANTS IS HERE WITH HIS OWN PRESENTATION, AND WE'LL PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THEIR LINE OF SIGHT DETAIL. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HOW I I'LL BE HAPPY TO. OKAY. THANK YOU, JOANNE. UM, DOES COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ALL STAFF? IF NOT, UM, WITH REGARDS TO, TO THE, THE ROOF PROPOSAL, WAS THE APPLICANT SEEKING OPTION TWO? UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE AND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING OPTION TWO. SHOULDN'T WHAT, UH, SO THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY HAS OPTION ONE OR NINE. UH, THE, THE EXISTING HOUSE HAS A DUTCH GABLE FEATURE LIKE IT, UM, LOOKING AT THE, LOOKING AT THE PROJECTOR, UM, RIGHT. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ROUGH PLANE RIGHT HERE, THERE IS A DUTCH GABLE THERE, AND THEN IT WOULD MATCH THE DUTCH, THIS, THE SECOND FLOOR ADDITION WILL MAP MATCH THE DUTCH GABLE. UM, THAT'S IN THAT'S PART OF THE EXISTING HOUSE. AND SO, SO, AND TO THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY CHANGING, IT'S JUST THAT ONE. YES. YES. AND THE APPLICANT PREPARES OPTION TWO, I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF A FINANCIAL COST, THE COST IN US, THE, IN AESTHETICS, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER PREFERS THE LOOK OF OPTION TWO BETTER. OKAY, GREAT. CAN I ASK, [00:40:01] IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF AT THAT POINT? IS THAT WHERE THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL TWO FEET? OR IS IT THE SAME THAT POINT? ACCORDING, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THE HEIGHTS OF THE RA THE EXISTING ROOF IS 27 FEET. UM, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHTS IT FOR A RESIDENTIAL IN THE CITY IS 25 FEET FROM LOWEST GRADE TO THE HIGHEST POINT ON THE TOP, ON TOP OF THE ROAD, ROUGH RIDGE. SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND STORY. ADDITION WOULD HAVE TO BE ALSO 27 FEET. I'M JOANNE, CAN YOU SHOW THEM THE EXISTING ROOF THAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY AND WHERE THEY ADD ONS ARE? SO YEARS AGO THEY BUILT THEIR HOME WITHIN AN EXISTING ROOF OF A SECOND STORY IS 27 FEET, BUT IN TODAY'S ALL CODE, OUR CITY CODE, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 25 FEET THOUGH. JOANNE'S GOING TO SHOW US WHERE THE EXISTING HOUSE RIGHT NOW IS, THIS IS ON THE ELEVATION, AND THIS IS THE EXISTING HOUSE, AND THIS IS THE PORTION THAT THEY'RE ADDING ON. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THEIR EXISTING HOUSE. AND WE IN, WE ARE GOING TO BE, UM, IF THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES A PROJECT, THIS PER THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL STAFF IS GOING TO BE VERIFYING THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE. AND ALSO THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED ADDITION, EXISTING HOUSE PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE IN THE HEIGHT OF THE ADDITION, BY PRIOR TO FRAME THE FRAMING INSPECTION. SO, SO THAT ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH FRAMING, UM, THEY CAN VERIFY THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE PRIOR TO GET THE INSPECTOR SIGNING OFF ON IT, SO THAT IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES OR THEY HAVE TO LOWER IT, THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. RIGHT THEN BEFORE, BEFORE THE HOUSE IS COMPLETED. THANK YOU. AND IF, UH, COMMISSIONERS DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WHICH YOU CAN ALSO ASK LATER, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE OPPOSING SIGH, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM APPLICANT AGAIN, AND THEN, UM, OUR COMMISSIONS CAN HAVE, UH, MORE QUESTIONS WE CAN ASK. CAN YOU PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD FOR US AS WELL? THANK YOU EVENING. THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS. UM, WELCOME. IT'S GOING TO BE EXCITING. SO, UM, WE PRESENTED THIS PROJECT, UM, THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND WE, AND IT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE IT TO TODAY. SO I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT, BECAUSE I KNOW MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE NEW. AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THE PROJECT, HOW WE BECAME TO THIS DESIGN AND ALSO WHAT OUR CLIENT DIVISION IS. SO OUR CLIENTS HAVE LIVED HERE. UM, THIS IS THEIR FOREVER HOME. SO THEY CAME TO US TO DESIGN THEIR DREAM HOME, UM, THEIR DREAM HOME WITH CONSISTENT VIEWS. THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS VERY UNIQUE. IT HAS A 270 VIEW. IT COULD SEE THE MOUNTAINS, IT CAN SEE THE BEACH AND IT COULD SEE PART OF THE OSI. OUR DESIGN WAS COMPLETELY TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE VIEWS AND TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THERE IS A POOL AND, UM, THEIR FAMILY'S GROWING CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY OWNER LIVES THERE WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR PARENTS. SO THEIR DREAM HOME IS TO CONTINUE LIVING WITH THEIR PARENTS AND TO HAVE KIDS. SO THIS IS THEIR DREAM HOME. UM, THE EXISTING HOUSE IS 3,900, APPROXIMATELY 3,900 SQUARE FEET. AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO BE 7,465 SQUARE FEET. UM, 3,910 SQUARE FEET MINDSET MIGHT SOUND LIKE A LARGE HOUSE, BUT THE WAY IT WAS BUILT AND THE WAY IT IS DESIGNED DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A 3,900 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE WHEN YOU WALK INTO IT. UM, THERE'S A VERY IN RANGES OF GRAY CHANGE, THERE'S ALSO STEPS GOING DOWN STEPS GOING UP. ONE PORTION IS ONE STORY OF THE HOUSE. THE OTHER PORTION IS TWO STORIES OF THE HOUSE. SO THERE'S VARIATIONS OF HEIGHTS WITHIN THE HOUSE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW IT TO BE THE FULL POTENTIAL OF LIKE A BRAND NEW HOUSE THAT WE CONSTRUCT TODAY THAT WE'VE CONSTRUCTED. THAT'S 3,900 SQUARE FEET. 3,900 SQUARE FEET IS IT'S A LARGE HOUSE IF IT WAS DESIGNED TODAY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN THIS PROPERTY. UM, LIKE I SAID, THE DESIGN WAS DRIVEN BY VIEWS. UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COMMISSION MEETING WAS THAT ON NOVEMBER 10TH, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, [00:45:01] UM, PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION, THERE WAS THE NEIGHBOR. HE HAD A CONCERN ABOUT HIS VIEWS, UM, BECAUSE HE HAD A CONCERN. WE, UM, AS THE DESIGNER AND ALSO MY CLIENT, WE SAID, WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASSURE YOU THAT YOUR VIEW WILL NOT BE BLOCKED. UM, I'M SORRY. I WAS TALKING, I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST, THE VERY FIRST SLIDE? I DIDN'T KNOW THE THAT WAS GOING ON. SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE PROJECT. UM, IF YOU CLICK AGAIN, THIS IS THE AREA MOSTLY OF WHAT THE EXISTING HOUSE IS. AND IF YOU CLICK AGAIN AND THEN THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE, NOT THE EXTERIOR. SO A BIG MAJORITY OF THE HOUSE LOOKS TOWARDS THE WALL AND LOOKS TOWARDS THE DIFFERENCE IN GRADE. SO ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET OF THAT HOUSE. FIRST STORY. AND SECOND STORY IS LOOKING AT A WALL. SO THIS NEW PROJECT IS GOING TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE VIEWS. AND I WANT IT TO SHOW THAT PICTURE, CAUSE IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE MOST OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IS REALLY TUCKED INTO THE GREAT CHANGE THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW NEXT TO THE NEXT PICTURE. SO THAT IS AREA 2000. OH, THAT'S, THAT'S A KIND OF LIKE THE 2000, THE MAJORITY OF THE HOUSE IS IN THAT AREA IN THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WE FLEW A DRONE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE A PERFECT EYESIGHT LEVEL OF STRAIGHT OF HOW THERE'S THERE IS A 17 FEET DIFFERENCE IN GRADE FROM OUR PROJECT SITE TO THE NEIGHBORING HOUSE IS THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE KIND OF IN THE BOTTOM. BUT YOU SEE ON THE TOP IS AN ARCHITECTURAL PLAN OF THE NEW PROJECT. AND IN RELATION TO HOW THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY WILL NOT HAVE HIS VIEW BLOCKED, UM, LIKE STAFF SAID, THE VIEW BLOCKING IS NOT A CODE THAT WE'RE, IT'S NOT A CODE THAT WE ARE NOT MEETING. OUR PROJECT IS MEETING ALL OF THE CODE, THE MUNICIPAL CODE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, NEIGHBOR HAS THIS CONCERN. WE PRODUCED THIS DRAWING. IF YOU SEE THE RED LINE, YOU CLICK AGAIN, PLEASE YOU CLICK AGAIN. SO THAT WAS, THERE'S A RED LINE, AND THAT IS THE NEIGHBOR'S LINE OF SIGHT. IF HE IS AT HIS HOUSE IN THE SECOND STORY, LOOKING OUT TO HIS VIEW, THERE WAS NO VIEW THAT WOULD BE BLOCKED FROM OUR PROJECT. OKAY. ALSO, OUR PROJECT IS CONTINUING THE EXISTING HOUSE HEIGHT. WE ARE NOT GOING HIGHER AND WE ARE NOT GOING LOWER. WE COULD GO LOWER, BUT THE HOUSE WOULD NOT LOOK AS GOOD. AND BECAUSE THIS IS A DREAM HOME, WE WANT THE BEST. AND WE ALSO WANT TO DESIGN THE BEST, UM, WITH THAT SAID, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT, I THINK, IS THAT, THAT'S IT. SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, THE SECOND STORY, THAT IS OUR, OUR, OUR HEIGHT. AND THEN IF YOU SEE AT THE TOP, THAT IS THE BRAND NEW ADDITION. UM, SO THAT DAY AFTER THAT THE MEETING TOOK PLACE. I, UH, I APPROACHED THE NEIGHBOR AND I ASKED THEM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN? AND I SAID, BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GO TO YOUR PROPERTY. AND I REALLY LIKED THE CITY STAFF TO GO TO THE PROPERTY AND TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU IN PERSON, JUST LIKE I DID TO SHOW ME HOW YOUR VIEW IS BLOCKED. I UNDERSTAND HE PROBABLY DOESN'T DESIGN HOUSES FOR A LIVING. THIS IS MY JOB. THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING IS MY PASSION. AND I COULD, I COULD GUARANTEE YOU AND I COULD HAVE SURVEYORS GO OUT THERE AND GUARANTEE THAT FROM HIS SECOND STORY HOUSE, AND IF HE'S STANDING THERE, OUR PROJECT WILL BE THE SAME. AND THAT'S THE, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE FLEW THAT DRONE THERE. SO YOU CAN HAVE A CLEAR LINE SIGHT BECAUSE FROM THE STREET, IF YOU'RE DRIVING UP, HA I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S, IF YOU GUYS HAVE VISITED THE SITE, BUT IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SITE. IT'S UP ON A HILL AND THE STREET CURVES AROUND. SO FROM THE VERY BOTTOM OF THAT STREET TO THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 50 FEET AS HE GRADUALLY COME UP, IT'S 30 FEET. AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE ENTRANCE, YOU STILL HAVE TO GO ANOTHER 30 FEET IN ELEVATION AND GRADE. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A VERY LARGE, UM, GREAT CHANGE ON THIS PROPERTY. IN ADDITION, WE DO NOT HAVE NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT. WE DO NOT HAVE NEIGHBORS IN FRONT OF US. WE DO HAVE NEIGHBORS TO THE RIGHT A LITTLE, BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE GRADE CHANGE THERE TOO. SO THIS SITE IS VERY UNIQUE. UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE SPOKE TO THE PROPERTY, YOUR OWN, WE, WE EXPRESS OUR CONCERN AND WE SAID, WELL, IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN WITH THIS PROPERTY, PLEASE GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT YOUR SITE. AND WE CAN DESCRIBE TO YOU HOW THIS PROJECT WOULD WORK. AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE POLE PLAN. OKAY. SO WE'VE PRODUCED, WE PRODUCED A POLL PLAN AND DID ANYONE SEE THE POPE ON THERE? OKAY. THAT FLOAT PLAN IS ACTUALLY SHOWS THE HOUSE COMPLETE HEIGHT [00:50:01] AS A BOX. IT DOESN'T SHOW THE ROOF LIKE THIS. SO WHAT YOU SAW WAS A HUGE BOX, EVEN THOUGH ON THE CORNERED AREAS, THERE IS NO. UM, HOW CAN I, HOW CAN I DESCRIBE IT? SO, SO THIS IS THE BOX, RIGHT? SO THE POLL PLAN THAT YOU SAW WAS A BOX. WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE SAW WAS SOMETHING LIKE THIS, RIGHT. WHICH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T LOOK AS LARGE. SO THE, THE, THE PULL PLAN WAS A LITTLE DECEIVING THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED. BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU, BECAUSE WHEN I SAW IT, I THOUGHT THE SAME THING I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS, THIS ISN'T WHAT WE DESIGNED. SO NOW I HOPE THAT WAS A GOOD ILLUSTRATION OF THE LINE OF SIGHT. AND I ALSO, THE PLANS THAT HE HAVE, UM, RECEIVED IN ADDITION, UM, GREAT CHANGE. AND IN ADDITION, WHEN I SPOKE TO THE, TO THE OWNER AND I, AND I LET HIM KNOW, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO ON THE PROPERTY WITH YOU. HIS CONCERN WAS THE LINE OF SIGHT, AND THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S ANOTHER CONCERN FROM HIS WIFE WAS THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD VALUE WOULD GO DOWN. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY OF THIS TYPE OF PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE WOULD ALLOW AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OR ANY PROPERTY NEARBY FOR THE PROPERTY VALUES TO GO DOWN. SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. AND I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING VERY GENERAL. UM, IN ADDITION, STAFF ALSO DID RECOMMEND THAT, UM, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL ON THE PREVIOUS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AND THEY ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IN THIS MEETING. UM, OUR CODE, OUR, OUR PROJECT MEETS THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE. IT'S ALSO PROVIDING, UH, I BELIEVE A GREAT HIGH-END PROJECT. IT'S NOT A PROJECT, UM, THAT WE'RE CUTTING CORNERS. IT'S NOT A PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO, UM, JUST DO AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN TAKING ALMOST A YEAR JUST TO GET TO WHERE IT'S AT NOW. UM, ALSO WE WOULD LIKE THE GABLE DESIGN BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A MODERN DESIGN, UH, OUR PROJECTS, A LITTLE LEAN TOWARD MODERN. WE ARE OPEN BECAUSE WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET OUR PROJECT GOING. UM, AND IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT A DUTCH, UH, HIP ROOF WOULD LOOK BETTER THAN, UM, WE ARE ALSO OPEN TO THAT AS LONG AS WE RECEIVE APPROVAL. AND ALSO, UM, LASTLY, WE AGREE WITH STAFF THAT, UM, WE DO NOT EXCEED ANY HEIGHT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO HIGHER. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT AND HAVE A UNIFORM HOUSE. AND ALSO WE'RE MEETING THE CODE. UM, WITH THAT SAID, UM, WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR WORK. WE DO A LOT OF HOUSES NEARBY, UM, AND THIS WOULD JUST BE ANOTHER HOUSE THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO DO AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE END RESULT TO BE PRODUCED EXACTLY LIKE THE RENDERING. AND I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE PROJECT? OKAY. AHEAD. UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHY THE HOMEOWNER PREFERS OPTION TWO AND THE MORE MODERN LOOK AND, AND GO A LITTLE BIT INTO, UM, UH, ABOUT THE HAVING ROSIE, HAVING A MORE MODERN LOCALE, UM, MAY BRING INCREASE HOME VALUES BECAUSE IF A PROPERTY IS JUST SAY YOUR HOMEOWNER WAS JUST SELL THAT HOUSE ONE DAY AND IT'S A MODERN LOOK AND THAT HOUSE SELLS FOR X AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT THAT MEANS THAT THE NEXT SALE, NEXT DOOR, OR THE STORE NEXT DOOR OVER THERE, MYSELF, A MORE NOW BECAUSE OF THAT MODERN AND MORE BEING ABLE TO RESELL THAT PRODUCT. BUT, BUT IN GENERAL, IF YOU COULD GO INTO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THEY HAVE A STRONG BELIEVES IN, IN HAVING THAT MODERN LURK. OKAY. UM, IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S ALL PERSONAL PREFERENCE. UM, I LIKE MODERN, BUT I ALSO LIKE SPANISH. SO IF I WAS GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN, I WOULD BUILD SPANISH. SO, UM, THE CLIENTS, UH, DESIRES AND THEIR WISHES OF THEIR DREAM HOME IS, IS THAT WHAT YOU SEE UP THERE. AND, AND REALLY THE GABLE ROOF IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THEY, LIKE, IT GOES WITH BOTH STYLES WORK, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I'M BUILDING A DREAM HOUSE FOR SOMEONE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEIR OPINION ON HOW THEY WANT THEIR DREAM HOUSE TO LOOK LIKE I'LL DESIGN IT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE IN IT. SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE, WE WOULD RE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE GABLE DESIGN, BUT LIKE WE SAID, WE KNOW THIS IS A PROCESS AND WE'RE OPEN TO ANYTHING WE HAVE TO DO TO GET IT APPROVED. YES. IN REGARDS TO YOUR PLANS THAT WERE PREPARED FOR THE PROJECT, I HAPPENED TO NOTICE ON THE FRONT ELEVATION AND THE SECOND SIDE ELEVATION THAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, THIS CALLED OUT AT 27 [00:55:01] FEET AND TWO INCHES. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY AGREEING TO GO WITH WHAT THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED TO NOT TO EXCEED 27 FEET. CORRECT. UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT. NO. WHAT, WHAT STAFF INDICATED WAS THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR TWO FOOT INCREASE. SO RIGHT NOW THE CODE NORMALLY CALLS FOR 25. CORRECT. SO FOR THE ADDITION, YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT AT 27, CORRECT? CORRECT. OUR GOAL IS TO MATCH THE HOUSE, TO MAKE IT LOOK AT THE END TO, TO MAKE IT KIND OF LOOK LIKE IT WAS ALL DESIGNED AT ONE TIME. OKAY. YES. NOW TO THAT POINT, UM, I UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF IS ASKING FOR OPTION ONE, THE DUTCH GABLE, UM, BEING THAT THE EXISTING HOUSE CURRENTLY HAS A DUTCH GABLE IN ORDINARILY WHEN SOMEONE IS DOING AN ADDITION, UNLESS THEY TRULY DECIDE THEY WANT TO MAKE A COMPLETE CHANGE. I WANT YOUR THOUGHTS. MY THOUGHT IS THAT WHEN THE HOUSE WAS DESIGNED, IT WAS DESIGNED WITH THE DUTCH, THE DUTCH GABLE, SINCE WE ARE REDESIGNING THE HOUSE AND WE ARE KIND OF CHANGING THE ROOF, IF WE COULD HAVE THE OPTION, WE WOULD LOVE TO A GABLE. UM, IT'S MORE OF THE CITY IS REQUESTING THIS, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS THIS, THE DESIGNER WANTS THIS. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WE'RE OPEN TO BOTH, BUT IF IT'S OUR OPTION AND YOU'D GIVE US THE OPTION, THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A HIP. I MEAN, I'M SORRY. I GAVE ALL THE, I'M SORRY. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY. UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF, WITH REGARD TO THE DUTCH GABLE VERSUS GABLE DICHOTOMY. UM, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY SET, A LEVEL OF UNIFORMITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH REGARD TO GABLE VERSUS DUTCH GABLE OR, OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT WE HAVE IN? UM, I ASSUME I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN OUR CODE THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING EITHER A GABLE OR A DUTCH GABLE ROOF, CORRECT. THERE ISN'T ANYTHING IN OUR CODE THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING THE PROPOSED GABLE. IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONCERNED. I BELIEVE THERE ARE, UH, MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE, DO HAVE GABLE ROOFS, BUT STAFF DID, UM, STAFF DIDN'T TAKE A SURVEY ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE, THERE ARE DUTCH GABLE, ROOFS PRESENT IN THE ROOM. I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT THE DUTCH, I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS OR ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WAS THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOFS. IF THEY'RE DIFFERENT, THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME HEIGHT. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT DESIGN. THANK YOU. AND IF COMMISSIONERS, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP TO ANOTHER, UM, SPEAKER, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS FOR THE PROJECT IT'S UM, FOR THE PROJECTS OR OPPOSING THE PROJECT FOR, FOR THE PROJECTS? ANY, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, I DON'T HAVE ANY CARD FOR, UM, FOR THE PROJECT. SO, UH, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP TO, UM, OPPOSING THE PROJECT, PLEASE COME UP. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS PAUL, MISS ELVIS. I RESIDE AT 1216 HOLLAND CREST DRIVE. THAT'S THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST. AND, UH, HERE'S MY CARD. UM, I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH A COMMENT. THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE IMMEDIATELY FOR ME, HE COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTED MY PRESENTATION THAT I MADE AT THE LAST MEETING AND MY CONCERNS. UH, HE STATED THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE VIEW AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT MY CONCERN. I MADE THAT VERY CLEAR AT THE LAST MEETING ON NOVEMBER 10TH, THE LINE OF SIGHT DRAWING THAT WAS PREPARED BY THE ARCHITECT WAS ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE REQUESTED COMMISSIONER HANK. UM, BUT CONTINUE WITH MY PRESENTATION. THIS AREA OF COURSE IS OWNED OUR ONE. THE HOUSE HAD AN ADDITION BUILT IN THE LATE 1970S, BRINGING IT TO ITS PRESENT SIZE OF 4,300 SQUARE FEET OR THREE 44. THE AVERAGE HOME SIZE IN 20 HOMES SURROUNDING THE HOUSE IS 3,300 SQUARE FEET EXISTING THE [01:00:01] EXISTING HOUSE AT 1208 HOLLAND CREST SUBJECT ADDRESS IS ALREADY 31% LARGER THAN THE AVERAGE HOME SIZE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPOSED HOME WOULD BE TWICE MORE THAN TWICE THE SIZE OF THE SURROUNDING HOMES. THE NEIGHBORHOOD I REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT PLAY STORY POLES AT THE SITE THEY AGREED TO DO SO BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THE STORY POLLS WOULD REALLY SHOW THIS MONSTROSITY THAT'S PROPOSED. I ASKED THE CITY TO PREPARE A SLIDE PRESENTATION FOR ME, OR I'VE GIVEN THEM A SLIDE THAT MORE CLEARLY SHOWS. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO SEE THE STORY POLLS AT THE SITE, BUT THEY DO DEPICT QUITE A LARGE STRUCTURE THAT'S PROPOSED. WE'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THESE FIRST ONE DOES SHOW THOSE LAGS THAT YOU CAN SEE ABOVE THE GARAGE STRUCTURE. THIS IS DOWN FROM . AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE STORY POLES IN THE SKY, UH, DEPICTING THE WHOLE STRUCTURE NEXT. AND THIS IS FROM HOLLAND CREST DRIVE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. SEE THE STORY, THE STORY POOLS ARE THE FLAGS. THANK YOU. NEXT HERE'S AGAIN FROM ASA GRUNDY, YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURE, MOST HISTORIC POLES. AND THIS IS FROM HOLLAND HOLLENBECK STREET, TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND, AND THE STORY POLES AND FLAGS. YOU CAN SEE THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT'S CLOSED. THIS IS FROM MY DRIVEWAY. THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM MY HOME. I THINK THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. IS THAT CORRECT? MA'AM THANK YOU. REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT STATED THAT THE VISUAL SCALE AND MASSING PRESENTED BY THE ADDITION FROM OFFSITE VIEWS IS INSIGNIFICANT DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE. THE BUILDING PAD IS HIGHER THAN THE STREET, AND THE ADDITION WOULD NOT BE READILY VISIBLE TO PEDESTRIANS AND VEHICLES PASSING BY THAT'S. WHAT'S STATED IN THE REPORT ITEM, NUMBER TWO, UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE STORY POLLS, THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OR REQUIREMENTS OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS THAT THE V THE STRUCTURE NOT APPEAR MASSIVE OR BOXY. I BELIEVE THOSE INDEED ARE PRESENTED HERE. ANOTHER REQUIREMENT IS THAT AN AREA THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY ONE STORY, THE ADDITION OF A SECOND STORY BALCONY, ESPECIALLY IN A FLAT LAND NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HAVE AN EFFECT ON PRIVACY. AND THESE AREAS BALCONIES AND VERY YARDS ARE DISCOURAGED. AND IT STATED THAT THE PROPOSED BALCONY WILL HAVE MINIMAL PRIVACY IMPACTS THE BALCONY ON THE WEST SIDE WILL BE OVERLOOKING THE BACKYARD AND THE STREET. INDEED. IT ACTUALLY OVERLOOKS THE NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM AND THEY'RE QUITE UPSET THAT THIS WILL BE STRUCTURED, THAT THEY CAN EASILY SEE INTO THEIR YARDS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE IS 4,000 SQUARE FEET IN THIS R ONE NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S ALLOWABLE TO GO 25% OVER THAT AMOUNT WITH PROGRAM PLANNING, COMMISSION APPROVAL, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN. AND SO I HEARD THE, UM, THE, UH, PLANNING GROUP STATE THAT THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE IS 5,000. MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S 4,000 WITH AN ALLOWABLE, 25% OVERBUILT WITH APPROVAL. THE PURPOSE OF ZONING LAWS IS TO PREVENT EXACTLY WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY LARGE HOME THAT'S PROPOSED IN AN AREA OF SMALLER HOMES. I'VE PREPARED A PETITION. I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT OF POST TO THIS PROPOSAL. AS I WENT HOME TO HOME TALKING TO THEM, MANY OF THEM COMPLAINED THAT THEY HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION [01:05:01] OF THE ELEMENT. DESPITE THE CITY STATING THAT THEY WERE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING OFFICE STATING THAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED THE COURT, SENT IT OUT TO 35 SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. MANY OTHER CITIES IN THE REGION HAVE EXPERIMENTED WITH ALLOWING MASSIVE STRUCTURES, ADJACENT TO SMALLER HOMES. AND I THINK MANY OF THEM HAVE DECIDED THAT THAT WAS NOT THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO AND HAVE CHANGED THEIR APPROACH. I POINT THAT OUT CITY OF ARCADIA COMES TO MIND. THIS PROPOSED HOME WILL SIMPLY NOT FIT INTO THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WOULD INDEED HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES DUE TO ITS EXTREME SIZE COMPARED TO THE OTHER HOMES, MY NEIGHBORS AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE APPLICATION BE DONE. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. UM, SO IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, THAT THIS MATTER IS DENIED AND THEY DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, EXCEEDS THE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LIMIT. WHAT'S, LET'S SAY THAT'S APPROVED IF IT IS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS, IS, IS TOO LARGE, OR CERTAINLY I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, THE, THE LIMITATION IN YOUR MIND? WELL, THE LIMITATION IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET, AND IF IT WAS PROPOSED TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE HOME TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET, I WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU FOLKS. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE CARDS COMING NOW? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DON HOLTZ. I LIVE AT 1228 HOLLAND CRESTS THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM THE APPLICANT. UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION, UH, WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US, I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THIS IS PRESENTED TO US. YEAH, HOUSE WAS 26. THEY SAID IT WAS 26 FEET HIGH. AND WE KNEW, EXCUSE ME, WE KNEW IT WAS ONE FOOT OVER, BUT WE THOUGHT ONE FOOT, NO BIG DEAL. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 27 FOOT. SO I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT, WHAT MEASUREMENT IS CORRECT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHY I'M UP HERE. I'M UP HERE BECAUSE JUST TO CUT THROUGH IT, THE HOUSE IS TOO BIG FOR THE AREA. IT'S JUST TOO LARGE. IT DOESN'T FIT IN WITH THE, UH, ARCHITECTURE OF THE OTHER HOMES, THE AVERAGE HOMES, AND THAT WHOLE AREA ARE 30, 33, 3,400 SQUARE FEET. AND THEY'RE LARGE HOMES AND I LIVE IN ONE OF THEM, BUT IT, IT JUST DOESN'T FIT IN THE AREA. AND IT'S JUST GOING TO LOOK LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FROM DISNEYLAND SITTING UP ON THAT, ON THAT HILL. SO, UH, AFTER TALKING TO SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS, THEY ALL SAID IT DOESN'T FIT. AND, UH, WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S NO HOMELESS, HE SAID, THE ARCHITECT SAID, THERE'S NO HOMELESS IN FRONT OF IT. THERE'S NO HOMELESS IN FRONT OF IT. AS FAR AS LINE OF CYPRESS, THEIR HOMES ALL AROUND THAT AREA, THERE'S NO EMPTY LOTS. SO WE ASKED THEM IF THEY COULD REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE HOMES AND WE WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT I SEE THEY CAME BACK WITH THE SAME PLAN, ALMOST 7,500 SQUARE FEET. AND I THINK IF I REMEMBER, AND I DON'T HAVE THE, UH, FLOOR PLANS IN FRONT OF ME, I THINK THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE FIVE TO SEVEN BEDROOMS IN THAT HOUSE. AND I'M NOT SURE MAYBE YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY BEDROOMS ANYWAY, THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF BEDROOMS IN THAT HOUSE. UH, THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE ON THAT LOT FOR A GRANNY FLAT. THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT, BUT TO BUILD AS MONSTROSITY AND HAVE THE ARCHITECTURE BEING MODERN INSTEAD OF FITTING IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CARLOS GRAY, EVERY SIDE DIRECTLY WEST ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED HOME IT'S AGENDA [01:10:01] NUMBER. AND WITH THE FEW INTERESTS AS HIGH STANDING STRUCTURES OUTLINED THE NEW PROPOSED HOME, WHICH CAN BE SEEN FROM A FEW BLOCKS AWAY IS A PROMINENT AND DISTINCT STRUCTURE ASKING FOR SIGNIFICANT CODE EXEMPTIONS OR REFERENCE FOR ADDITIONAL REFERENCE. I LIVE ONE BLOCK EAST OF THE PROPOSED HOME, APPROXIMATELY 50 TO 100 FOOT BELOW THE FIRST FIRST FLOOR. THE GROUND LEVEL OF THE FIRST FLOOR IS GOING TO INTRUDE ONTO, INTO OUR PRIVACY. THIS MAY NOT HAPPEN IF NO SIGNIFICANT EXCEPTIONS ARE GRANTED. IF YOU CONCERNS ARE SIGNIFICANT PERCENT INCREASE FROM THE POSSIBLE ONE-TIME EXCEPTION. I DIDN'T THEME WITH HOMES WITHIN ONE OR TWO BLOCK AREA AND EXCEPTIONS FOR THIS ITEM. WELL, IN GENERAL, JUST NOT RECEIVING NOTIFICATION OF, UM, SUCH A MAJOR EXCEPTION, JUST SOME ITEMS THAT I KNOW IT DIDN'T. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING ABOUT THIS, BESIDES FROM MY NEIGHBOR, UM, WHICH WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING OF CONCERN DUE TO PRIVACY. AND ALSO, UM, JUST, UH, UH, AS I MENTIONED, ONE, ORIGINALLY IT'S ALLOWABLE TO GO 25% OVER BILL DEBT, WHERE THIS IS BEING ALLOWED TO BE ABOUT 50% STORY POLLS INDICATED WHAT GEO INFORMATION DOES, NOT FOR YOU, THE THREE PHOTOS PRESENTED OR TAKEN FROM THE WEST FACING EAST DIRECTIONS AND DOES NOT DEPICT THE ACTUAL SIZE OR IMPRESSION IT MAKES ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALSO. UM, I MEAN THE STORY POLLS ARE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, SIX, SIX INCHES IN DIAMETER. SO, AND A PICTURE LIKE THAT, IT'S REALLY HARD TO EVEN ILLUSTRATE FROM WEST TO EAST FACING DIRECTIONS MENTIONED, WAS MADE ABOUT LINE OF SIGHT. UM, JUST A ROUGH CALCULATION WITH THE ONE DEGREE SHIFT ON A TWO ACCESS BASIS AT APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE AWAY. THAT'S ABOUT 270 FEET, 270,000 SQUARE FEET OF BLOCKAGE, WHICH EXPONENTIALLY INCREASES FOR EVERY MILE. WE CONSIDER OUR RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED THE APPLICATION TO BE DENIED. ANY QUESTIONS OR THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE CARDS? WELL, WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT. UM, WE BOUGHT, GO AHEAD. COME ON UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING, THE PROJECT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION THE FIRST TIME IS THE SAME EXACT PROJECT PRESENTED TO YOU BEFORE THE COMMISSION TODAY. THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS THAT I PRESENTED THE SITE ANALYSIS VIEW ALSO TO CLARIFY, UM, ON THE STAFF REPORT, THE FIRST PAGE WHERE YOU DO THE SENTENCE, IT SAYS DURING, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ONE NEIGHBOR SPOKEN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT WITH CONCERNS PERTAINING TO THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED HOUSE, THE REQUESTED HEIGHT MODIFICATION AND POTENTIAL VIEW IMPACTS. SO WE CAME TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO OPENLY CON UH, ADDRESS SUMMER, OR LIKE, LIKE COMMISSIONER LEWIS, YOU SAID, OKAY, SO WHAT IS BIG? WE ARE HERE BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO REQUEST APPROVAL TO A PROJECT THAT MEETS CODE. WE ARE NOT ASKING TO GO. I MEAN, THIS PROPERTY IS, IS, IS THERE'S PROPERTIES NEARBY THAT ARE 10,000 SQUARE FEET THAT ARE JUST UP THE STREET. THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE SEVEN AND THERE'S, I THINK ANOTHER ONE OF SIX STAFF HAS PRODUCED A SURVEY OF HOUSES. I THINK IT WAS THE PREVIOUS, UM, STAFF REPORT THAT MAY BE IN YOUR AGENDA THAT SHOWS THE HOUSES THAT ARE THIS SIZE AND WHICH ARE IN THE SAME EXACT AREA. UM, SO LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE SUBMITTED SOMETHING THAT DOES MEET THE CODE, UM, WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND ALSO IT IS BY LAW THAT STAFF PRODUCES A NOTICE, UH, A PUBLIC NOTICE AND IS MAILED TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FOOT RADIUS. SO EVERYONE THAT IS WITHIN THE 300 FOOT RADIUS RECEIVED A LETTER STATING THAT THIS PROJECT IS ENTERED HEARING TODAY, OR ELSE THAT WOULD BE AGAINST THE LAW. SO I, I BELIEVE THAT STAFF DID THAT 100%, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, AND ALSO, UH, THE, THE HEIGHT IS NOT CHANGING THE MAJORITY OF THE EDITION. CAN [01:15:01] YOU PLEASE, UH, PULL UP THE ELEVATION FROM THE VIEW THAT SHOWS, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT THE, THE WEST ELEVATION, PLEASE KNOW, THE, THE WEST ELEVATION, THE RENDERING THAT YOU HAVE WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR PRESENTATION. LIKE I SAID, IN, LIKE I SAID, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, OUR, OUR DESIRES OF DESIGNING THESE HOUSES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS VIEW, WHEN YOU ARE UP THERE, THERE IS, YOU CANNOT SEE INTO PEOPLE'S HOUSES WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE, YOU SEE ROOF, YOU SEE EVERYONE'S ROOF, YOU CANNOT SEE PEOPLES BATHROOM. YOU CANNOT BE, SEE, SEE INSIDE PEOPLE'S ROOMS. MOST OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE LARGE HEDGES, UM, LOOKING DOWN AND ALSO THE MAJORITY IS JUST ROOFS. SO WE HAVE NO DESIRES AND DESIGNING A HOUSE THAT WOULD BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OR LOOKING OVER ANY ELSE'S PROPERTIES THAT IS NOT OUR DESIRE. AND ALSO OUR DESIRE IS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VIEWS. IF YOU GO TO THE VERY LAST ONE, THAT ONE TO REDUCE MASSINE, WE HAVE A PATIO ON THE BOTTOM THAT IS A LITTLE BIT RECESSED IN, AND ALSO THAT WHOLE WALL IS GLASS. AND THE GLASS ALSO CONTINUES TO AND WRAPS AROUND ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT IS THE FOCAL POINT. THIS IS OUR FOCAL POINT. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO, IF, IF WE CLEARLY SHOWED THAT THE POTENTIAL VIEWS, THERE WILL BE NO IMPACT FROM THE SECOND STORY AS SHOWN IN MY PLAN. THAT'S CLEARLY SHOWN. AND ALSO IF THERE IS AN IMPACT IN VIEW, AND YOU BELIEVE THAT REDUCING THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF TO TWO FEET IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. AND WE ARE OPEN TO THAT. MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE, MY, WELL, MY BELIEF IN DESIGNING, I HOUSES FOR A LIVING. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL LOOK GOOD. YOU KNOW, UH, OUR PROJECT, WE WANT OUR PROJECT TO LOOK LIKE THE BEST. WE DO A LOT OF HOUSES UP THE HILLS AND OUR, WE, WE ACTUALLY TRIED TO HAVE OUR PROJECTS LOOK THE BEST. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTION, DO WE HAVE ANY PRECEDENT, UH, AT, AT THIS COMMISSION LEVEL WITH REGARD TO APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A HOME THAT IS AT, OR GREATER THAN THIS PERCENTAGE BASED UPON THE, THE LOT SIZE? WELL, I, THAT TO JERRIANN CHERIF I'M FMI RESPOND, UM, NOT NECESSARILY AT THIS PARTICULAR AREA, BUT MO MOST, THE MAJORITY OF APPLICATIONS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A LARGE HOME HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE, THE ONLY IN THE LAST YEAR, ONLY ONE APPLICATION WAS CONTINUED FOR REDESIGNED TO, TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, TO, TO THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE, UM, TO BELOW THIS, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT LEVEL. AND THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE IS ON A MUCH SMALLER LOT. AND ALSO THERE WERE, THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS PRIVACY IMPACTS AND IT WAS ON A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE STORY. WAS IT, WHAT WAS IT IN THE HILLS OR WAS IT IN A FLAT AREA? IT WASN'T A FLAT AREA. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I ALSO WANT TO GO TO THE STAFF REPORT THAT THE STAFF HAS PRODUCED AND, UM, THEY PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO EACH TOPIC, TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE SITE MODIFICATION, TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT. AND ALSO TO, UM, SORRY, I'M TRYING TO READ EXACTLY WHAT STAFF SAYS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE LARGER HOME, WHICH, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT IS SENSITIVE AND DOES NOT DETERMINE IT, UH, DETRIMENTAL OR CONVENIENT TO THE SAFETY OF CIRCULATION. IT ALSO IS A, IS A GREAT DESIGN. ACCORDING TO STAFF, THAT STAFF REVIEWS ALL THE PLANS FOR THE CITY OF WEST COVINA. ALSO THE HEIGHT, THE REASON WHY THE HEIGHT IS A REQUIREMENT, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT WE ARE REQUESTING IS BECAUSE THAT IT WILL ARCHITECTUALLY BLEND WELL WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF WROTE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I SUBMITTED. [01:20:02] AND ALSO BECAUSE OF OUR, THE WAY OUR LAW IS POSITIONED, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD AFFECT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES NEARBY, COMPLETELY ADJACENT TO IT. BUT WITH THAT SAID, UM, THIS IS OUR SECOND MEETING, UM, JUST TO GET TO HERE HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR. WE HAVE ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THIS, WE HAVE WORKED WITH JOANNE TO COME UP WITH DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THIS DESIGN. AND JUST TO GET TO THIS POINT HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN DIFFERENT CHANGES, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, UH, DESIGNS. SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS DESIGN HAS INCORPORATED A LOT OF THE CITY'S COMMENTS, A LOT OF THE CITY'S DESIRES, BUT ALL OF THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO GET ULTIMATE APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL EAT IF YOU, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION BELIEVES THAT REDUCING THE HEIGHT TO 25 FEET AND NOT ALLOWING THIS INCREASE IN THE TWO FEET, IF, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION BELIEVES WERE MORE THAN HAPPY TO REDESIGN THE PROJECT AGAIN, AND TO TRY TO INCORPORATE THAT AND SOMEHOW TIE INTO THE HOUSE, WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU. UM, HOW MANY, A BIG, I GUESS, EXPANDED HOUSES ARE LIKE THAT AROUND THE SURROUNDING AREA? UM, I DIDN'T DO A STUDY OF HOW BIG IS THE BIGGEST HOUSE AND HOW MANY ARE THIS SIZE. BUT I DID NOTICE THREE HOUSES THAT I PERSONALLY LOOKED AT, UM, FROM THE LA COUNTY ASSESSORS THAT TELLS YOU HOW BIG THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS. UM, WHAT'S THE LOT SIZE, AND THERE WAS THREE, THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY ONE OVER 10,000, 300 OR 10,500 SQUARE FEET. THERE WAS ANOTHER HOUSE, 7,500 SQUARE FEET. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, A LITTLE OVER 7,800 SQUARE FEET OFF OF JUST ME REMEMBERING WHAT I LOOKED AT IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORING HOUSES, WHICH IS IN THE VICINITY OF A 300 SQUARE RADIUS. AND SO WE LET'S SEE SO EXISTING IT'S 4,344 SQUARE FOOT. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO EXPAND IT TO 7,465 SQUARE FEET, OR SO THE HOUSE IS, UM, SO THE CONSTRUCTION, THE EXISTING HOUSE IS 3,910, I BELIEVE. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE MY ONE SECOND, 3,910, APPROXIMATELY. AND THEN THE ULTIMATE HOUSE WOULD THE FINAL, EVERYTHING WOULD BE 7,465, THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA. SO IS THERE ANY PART OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT CAN BE REDUCED SOMEHOW? ARE YOU WILLING TO SOMEHOW WITH THE DESIGN, WE DO SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THE NEW PROPOSALS. ERIC HAS. I DO UNDERSTAND, OBVIOUSLY THE RESIDENTS HAVE A DEEP CONCERN BECAUSE IT IS A DRASTIC, BIG CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT IF YOU HAVE MORE TIME THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY REDUCE SOME OF THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, JUST SO IT'S NOT AS HUGE OF A PROJECT TO WHAT THE RESIDENT'S CONCERNS ARE, WHEN YOU SAY HUGE, DO YOU MEAN THE HEIGHT OR DO YOU MEAN THE FLOOR AREA? I BELIEVE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS WERE ABOUT THE EXPANSION WIT BECAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THEY SAID THAT IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE VIEW, IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE DRASTIC EXPANSION. OKAY. AND DON'T GET ME WRONG WITH THE PROJECTS, THAT BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, BUT JUST I'LL FIGURE BELIEVED YOU DING EARS. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT MAYBE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT SOME REDUCTION COULD BE OCCURRING ON NECESSARY SPACE OR SOMETHING. SO, JOANNE, UM, IF I CAN ADD, I WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE 100% SURE THAT I'M ANSWERING IT CORRECTLY. UM, SO THE SAFRA REPORT IS STATING THAT THE ADDITION, THE ADDITION TO THIS PROJECT IS 1,868 SQUARE FEET TO THE SECOND STORY AND A 734 SQUARE FEET TO THE FIRST STORY. THAT IS THE PROJECT BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY, I'M NOT ADDING THE GARAGES OR THE BALCONY. NOW, MY QUESTION TO JOANNE IS, IS [01:25:01] IT OUR, IN TOTAL LIVING AREA? ARE YOU ADDING THE GARAGE AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT? AND PART OF THE FAR I MAY RESPOND TO, TO THE APPLICANT'S QUESTION. OKAY. OKAY. SO FOR THE MAXIMUM MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE, THE GARAGE IS INCLUDED IN, IN THAT MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE CALCULATION. SO THE, THE GARAGE IS NINE. OKAY. UM, GIVE ME ONE SEC OUT OF THE 7,465 SQUARE FOOT, UM, 6,513 SQUARE FOOT, A LIVABLE SPACE, RIGHT? 9,952 SQUARE FOOT CONSISTS OF THE GARAGE. YES. SO THEY ADDED, THEY WANTED ALMOST 18,000 1,868 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE TOP FLOOR. AND ON THE FIRST FLOOR, THEY WANTED 734 SQUARE FOOT. THAT'S THE LIVABLE SPACE THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR. UM, NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GARAGE DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S MORE THAN FOUR BEDROOMS, WE NEEDED A THREE CAR GARAGE. SO THAT'S BY CODE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT FOR US. WELL, I MEAN, CORRECT. I HAVE TO HAVE WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. OKAY. SO THAT'S HALF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO CHOICE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT GARAGE, RIGHT. AND TONE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. I UNDERSTAND THAT IN TERMS OF HOW AND WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING MAJORITY OF THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HOW THE HOUSES AND THAT PARTICULAR LAW IS UNIQUE, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A LOT OF LAND, REALLY ONLY THE TOP PORTIONS OF USABLE, EVERYTHING KIND OF RUN DOWNHILL, 50 FEET DOWN THERE. IT'S A HOME. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE PUT THE HOUSE SOMEWHERE ELSE BESIDES THAT MASS AREA? BECAUSE THAT AREA MAKES IT LOOK REALLY HUGE. OKAY. LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, I GUESS YOU CAN GO IN A LITTLE BIT AND EXPLAIN THIS TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE. NOW WE HAD TWO ISSUES HERE. ONE OF THEM IS THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE THAT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE OTHER, THE SIDES OF THE HOUSE, MEANING A 6,513 SQUARE FOOT THAT'S LIVABLE SPACE. THE OTHER ISSUE WE HAVE WAS THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH BECAUSE THEY GO OVER AND THEY WANT TO MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE. IT'S TWO FEET DIFFERENCE ON 25, CURRENT CODE TWO 27. SO WE HAVE TO KEEP FOCUSED ON THIS TWO ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AND HOW WE CAN MAKE IT WORK FROM YOUR STANDPOINT. AND IF YOU CAN, I GUESS WE HEARD, I HEARD THIS, YOU KNOW, A MONTH AGO, WHAT TO, UM, REGARDING ALL THE WHOLE PROJECTS AND WHERE THINGS ARE LAYOUT WISE AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND WHY IT COULDN'T DO CERTAIN THINGS. SO MAYBE YOU CAN SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME EXPLAINING WHERE THE GARAGE NEEDS TO BE AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND THEN HOW YOU CAN REDUCE IT IF NEED TO. OKAY. OKAY. SO IF WE GO TO THE SITE PLAN, KNOW THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY GOOD IMAGE. SO COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ, TO CLARIFY THAT I GOT VERY GOOD CLARIFICATION THAT THE ACTUAL HOUSE IS 6,500 SQUARE FEET, NOT THE 7,465, BUT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA INCLUDES IT AS A COMPLETE PROJECT OF EVERYTHING. SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO MAYBE, UM, REDUCE 500 SQUARE FEET, UM, FROM IF, IF THE COMMISSION IS, WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THIS, OR I'M SORRY, IF THE KITCHEN, IF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO APPROVE THE PROJECT WOULD BE WILLING TO RECEIVE A, MAYBE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL STATING THAT THIS PROJECT SHALL BE REDUCED BY, I DON'T WANT TO GO 500, BUT I MEAN, IF WE COULD GO TO 50, THAT'D BE, THAT WOULD BE REDUCING IT BY TWO FEET BY THE WHOLE PROJECT, TWO FEET IN, WE CAN GO TWO FEET IN, OR YOU CAN GIVE US A NUMBER. AND WITH THAT APPROVAL, WE CAN GO BACK WITH STAFF AND THEN WITH STAFF, UM, WITH YOUR COMMENTS OF REDUCING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH MY PRACTICE IN DESIGNING HOUSES AND WITH STAFF'S EXPERTISE IN, UM, REVIEWING PLANS, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A PROJECT IN A SMALLER SIZE. NOW THE SITE PLAN, THE GARAGE, THAT'S ALMOST A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET THAT REALLY CANNOT BE MOVED ANYWHERE BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE EXISTING GARAGE AND WE'RE EXPANDING IT. UM, THE DRIVEWAY IS IMMEDIATELY IN THE FRONT. IF WE COULD MOVE THE GARAGE SOMEWHERE ELSE WE WOULD. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THERE. UM, THE SECOND STORY ADDITION THAT IS THROUGH THE RIGHT AND TOWARDS THE, [01:30:01] TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, WE'LL BELIEVE THAT'S REALLY OUR, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WANT. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THE VIEW. WE WANT TO KEEP THAT THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT'S DRIVING THE PROJECT, BUT IF YOU CAN CONDITION THIS PROJECT FOR APPROVAL AND REQUEST THAT WE REDUCED EITHER 250 SQUARE FEET OF THE REAR STRUCTURE, OR MAYBE 200 IN THE FRONT AND A HUNDRED IN THE, I MEAN, 200 IN THE BACK AND A HUNDRED IN THE FRONT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT, WHAT WOULD WORK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO SPEAK TO OUR CLIENT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS HIS DREAM HOUSE TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE THAT AND TELL YOU HOW WE'RE GOING TO REDESIGN. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME. YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THEIR DREAM HOUSE. I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION FOR THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU GIVE ME FLEXIBILITY THAT I CAN REDESIGN SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, MY CLIENT, WITH STAFF, AND WITH THE OTHER DESIGNERS THAT WE HAVE THAT PRODUCE THIS ARCHITECTURAL PLAN, WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING AS LONG AS YOU PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE OF, WE NEED TO REDUCE THE PLAN 300 SQUARE FEET OR 200 SQUARE FEET. AND I THINK WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD AND BUILD HIS DREAM HOUSE. UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING VERY FLEXIBLE WITH US. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS THAT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE DOING YOUR REBUTTAL. WE'RE GOING TO, I NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, AND THEN ALL PLANNING COMMISSION CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE, UM, UM, GO FROM HERE. OKAY. SO, OKAY. SO GO AHEAD. OKAY. FAST QUESTION. UH, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT IF WE WERE TO POSSIBLY TABLE THIS SOURCE AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND BRING THEM BACK TOWARDS THE ENEMY TONIGHT, THAT YOU'LL HAVE TIME TO CALL UP YOUR CLIENT AND GET PERMISSION? THEY, IF YOU'RE REAL, IF WILLING TO, UH, DECREASE IT BY 250 SQUARE FEET, UH, IN THE BACK AND A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET IN THE FRONT 250 IN THE BACK, I'M JUST REPEATING WHAT YOU SAID, 50 SQUARE FEET IN THE BACK AND A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET IN THE FRONT. YES. WE WOULD LOVE THAT IF YOU GIVE ME 30 MINUTES OR IF WE CONTINUE IT TO THE VERY END WE CAN SPEAK TO MY CLIENT. AND IF HE SAYS YES, THEN I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVAL. WELL, BEFORE WE GO ON, WE DO HAVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING AND THEN WE HAVE A COMMISSION, UM, HERE, UH, DISCUSSIONS. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL DECIDE IN TERMS OF HOW ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH THIS, UM, DECISIONS, NOT JUST ON ONE PLANNING COMMISSIONER. SO, UM, JUST WAIT FOR A SECOND. AND THEN, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, IF OUR COMMISSIONERS DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, I LIKE TO CLOSE THE MEETING RIGHT NOW, THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO THERE'S NO MORE COMMENTS, RIGHT, CORRECT. AFTER THIS. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MEANING RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR OUR COMMISSIONER TO HAVE A DISCUSSIONS CURRENTLY. AND THEN IF ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE QUESTION ABOUT, WHICH IS AS JOANNE OUR STAFF OR, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY ANSWERS TO CLOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE OPENING UP TO COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS. SO NOW ALL THE NEW PLANNING COMMISSIONS IN US, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF HOW, UM, WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UM, GOT THIS PROJECT ANYWAY, SOME, OKAY. SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL GO FIRST. FIRST OF ALL, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW. UM, IT IS A UNIQUE SITE AND IT IS ALSO AT A UNIQUE LOCATION. WHEN I SAY UNIQUE IS THAT THIS IS LOCATED IN, IN, IN THE SOUTH HILL AREA. IF YOU GO NOT SOUTH, WHICH IS UP THE MOUNTAIN, THERE ARE HUGE HOME. UM, 10,000, 12,005,000 SQUARE FOOT. WE GO BY THE TRACK, HUNDREDS OF HOMES, THAT'S OUT THERE NOW, HUGE HOMES. WE KNOW THAT WE ALL LIVE HERE. HOWEVER, IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT SOUTH NORTH, I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING MY DIRECTION DISORIENTED. SO IF YOU GO SOUTH, THERE'S A LOT OF BIG HOME. IF YOU GO NORTH, THE HOUSE GETS SMALLER AND SMALLER AND TO HIT THE FREEWAY AND FURTHER ALONG. SO IT'S A UNIQUE LOCATION. AND ALSO ANOTHER THING IS THAT IT'S UNIQUE IN A SENSE THAT IT DOES HAVE A VIEW AND NO MATTER WHERE YOU BUILD A HOUSE ON A HILLSIDE, YOU WILL SEE IT FROM EVERY DIRECTION. TO SOME EXTENT YOU WILL SEE IT. AND, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IT WILL IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORS. AND ALSO WHAT IS CONSIDERED BAKE BECAUSE IN THIS WHOLE, WHOLE HOLD, UM, TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION THIS HOUSE 6,513 SQUARE FOOT AND SOUTH HILL AREA [01:35:01] IS NOT UNUSUAL, OR IT'S NOT CONSIDERED HUGE, BUT THAT AREA IS A BORDERLINE BORDERLINE. IF YOU GO IN SOUTH, IT GETS BIGGER. IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH, THE HOME TEND TO GET, I'M NOT SAYING ALL THE HOME IS SMALLER, BUT IN GENERAL, IN THE GENERAL AREAS. SO WE DO NEED TO HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS THAT, UM, HOW MUCH IMPACT, AND IT IMPACTS THE NEIGHBORS, THE CITIES, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT. SO LET'S HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION IN WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT, BRIAN. OKAY, GREAT COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. UM, I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SHE'S STILL ON THE PHONE. OKAY. SO THERE'S THE, I GUESS, UM, THE MAIN, I GUESS THE GENERAL QUESTION IS, DOES A CITY OF WEST ARE GOING TO HAVE AN OBLIGATION WHEN, WHEN A RESONATOR OR APPLICANT COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR, OR IF HE WAS TO APPEAL WITH THE CITY CONSOLE, IS THERE AN OBLIGATION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, UH, TO FOLLOW THE GENERAL PLAN AND GO BY THE GENERAL PLAN AND, AND APPROVE THE, UH, OP UH, APPROVE A PROJECT, UH, AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT THE CONDITIONAL USE CONDITIONAL, UM, REVISIONS TO IT, UH IT'S IS THAT THE CITY'S OBLIGATION TO LOOK AT AND APPROVE IT BASED UPON THE GENERAL PLAN AND NOT BY A PERSONAL BELIEF OR A PERSONAL IDEA, BUT RATHER BY THE GENERAL PLAN AND, AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BASED UPON THAT GENERAL PLAN. UH, YES. COMMISSIONER, UM, CAN, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES. YES. WONDERFUL. I APOLOGIZE FOR GREAT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE EARLIER DELAY, WE HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. UM, THE, YES, THE CITY HAS A GENERAL PLAN, WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION OF ITS LAND USE, UM, UPON WHICH WE, WE BUILD WITH OUR MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE DECISION BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS TONIGHT SHOULD BE BASED ON THE FINDINGS FOR THE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS, AS SET FORTH, UM, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT IN THE RESOLUTION. AND SO THOSE ARE THE FINDINGS THAT YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON IN TERMS OF YOUR DECISION-MAKING, AND IF YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE FINDINGS AND YOU'RE ABLE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, I HOPE I HOPE THAT'S HELPFUL. YES. THANK YOU, PLEASE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM, WHEN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE TO ADDRESS THE SIZE, AS WELL AS THE HIGH, WHEN IT IS A CASE THAT THE SIZE IS CLEARLY MORE THAN 25%, DOES THE CITY HAVE SOME OTHER TYPE OF AN APPLICATION PROCESS? UM, SO THE APP, THE PROCESS BEFORE YOU IS, IS THE PROCESS FOR APPROVAL OF LARGE HOMES AS SET FORTH IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE. AND THEN, AND THAT IS THE ONLY PROCESS. OKAY. OKAY. SO AS IT IS RIGHT NOW FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, 5,000 SQUARE FEET, WOULD NORMALLY BE THE MAX, IS THAT CORRECT? I MAY. AND I MAY ASK FOR, I MAY ASK FOR JOANNE TO JUMP IN HERE. I'M SURE IF I MAY THANK YOU. SO FOR, IN THE CITY, IF, IF THE LOT IS OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET, AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S, IT IS OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S THE THRESHOLD IS BETWEEN 20,000 SQUARE FEET, AND I BELIEVE 25 OR 30. UM, ANYWAY, IT'S THE MAXIMUM UNIT. THE MAXIMUM MEAN ITS SIZE IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, IF YOU GO, IF YOU'RE PROPOSING 25% BEYOND THAT, IT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BUT WITHIN, WITHIN THE, UM, THE, OH A LITTLE BIT OVER, UM, OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, IN LESS THAN 25%, IT WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT PROCESS. IT WOULD DO IT. IF IT'S UNDER 20,000, 25%, THE 25% THRESHOLD, THEN IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW. IT WOULD JUST BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO I GUESS NOW MY QUESTION IS, UM, HAS THE CITY, UM, CURRENTLY ALLOWED SOMEONE TO BUILD A HOME ADDITION [01:40:01] THAT IS MORE THAN 50% YES. IN THE PAST, YES. WAS THAT APPROVED UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS? SO AT THAT, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE THEN SINCE YOU HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS OVER THE SIZE OF THE ADDITION, PARTICULARLY ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THAT PERHAPS IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO ALLOW BOTH PARTIES TO HAVE A CHANCE TO DISCUSS WHAT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE AMOUNT OR SIZE OF HOUSE THAT THEY, THAT BOTH PARTIES COULD AGREE ON. COMMISSIONER IS THIS, IF THAT, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THERE'S CONSENSUS ON, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUTSIDE OF YOUR, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU FEEL NEEDS TO BE DONE AS A COMMISSION, YOU COULD ALWAYS CONTINUE THIS ITEM AND DIRECT THE APPLICANT TO CONDUCT FURTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. UM, BUT REALLY WHEN, IN TERMS OF YOUR DECISION-MAKING, UH, YOU SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT ARE SET FORTH IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND SEE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE FINDINGS TONIGHT, OR IF NOT, AND WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO. SO THANK YOU. UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE GO AHEAD. I JUST HAVE ONE CHRISTIAN, THERE WAS A, UM, A QUESTION OF SAFETY AND WHATNOT. AND AFTER READING THE STAFF REPORT THAT IT'S DEEMED THAT THERE ARE NO SAFE SAFETY ISSUES. IS THAT VALID? OKAY. YES. THE, THE PROJECT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT WOULD REQUIRE BUILDING PERMIT PLAN CHECK, AND IN THE CITY'S BUILDING, UM, BUILDING, UM, DIVISION PLAN CHECKER, WE'LL REVIEW THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS OF THE HOUSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS STRUCTURALLY, THAT THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED AS STRUCTURALLY SAFE. UM, AND AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS, UM, VEHICLE OR SAFETY IS CONCERNED, IT IS, UH, UH, DEVELOPED STREET. UM, THE, THE HOUSE IS EXISTING AND THE DRIVEWAY IS EXISTING. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT HAVE, HAVE ANY IMPACTS OR CHANGES TO THE VEHICLE OR SAFETY. THANK YOU, JOHN. THANK YOU. I I'VE, I'VE ONE FINAL QUESTION REGARDING, UH, THE OVERALL MAXIMUM SIZE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY. IN ADDITION TO THE, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE AND THE GARAGE IN THE EVENT THAT A PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAD THE OPTION OF PUTTING, SAY A GRANNY FLAT OR SOMETHING ON, ON THEIR PROPERTY, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM, UH, BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE IN ORDER TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT? YEAH. YES. UH, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS ALLOWED UP TO 1,200 SQUARE FEET. UM, AND ALSO A JUNIOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IT'S ALLOWED UP TO 500 SQUARE FEET. UH, AND THAT'S THAT DOES IT, THE STATE LAW DOES NOT PREVENT OR CANNOT, UM, STATE LAW STATES THAT CITIES CANNOT PREVENT 80 YEARS AND JUNIOR, 80 YEARS FROM BEING CONSTRUCTED, AS LONG AS IT COMPLIES TO THE, THE LAWS LISTED IN, IN THE STATE CODE. AS FAR AS 80 USER CONCERNED, 80 USE DO NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE FLOOR AREA, THE FLOOR AREA RATIO OF THE HOUSE, AND IT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS LOT COVERAGE AS WELL. SO BASED UPON THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE HERE, IT WOULD BE EXCEEDINGLY DIFFICULT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT UP TO 1200 SQUARE FEET. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT OR WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO, UM, IT DEPENDS ON HOW IT IS, HOW IT IS DESIGNED IF LET'S SAY THEY, IF THEY GO WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE AND THEY, THEY BUILT AN 80 AND THEY TOTALLY NOT, THEY, THEY FORGET ABOUT DOING THEIR ADDITION OR ADD ON A SMALLER, A SMALLER ADDITION. THEY STILL [01:45:01] WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD THE 1000, THE 1,200 SQUARE FOOT ATU AND IN 500 SQUARE FOOT, JUNIOR ATU WITH A FOUR FOOT SETBACK. SO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN THE SECOND FLOOR FIRST FLOOR. SO JUST SO, JUST SO I'M CLEAR IN THE EVENT THAT WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, THEY WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BUILD BY RIGHT, A 12,000 OR 1200 SQUARE FOOT ADU. CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY PROVISIONS BY WHICH WE COULD, WE COULD ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A SIMILARLY SIZED MAXIMUM TOTAL DWELLING? SO LET'S SAY 5,000 PLUS 1200. SO YOU HAVE A 6,200 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM, UH, BUILDING SIZE BASED UPON THE TYPOGRAPHY AND, UH, AND BE IN A POSITION TO TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT FOR THEM TO SUBSEQUENTLY COME BACK TO US AND SAY, I WANT TO PUT A 1200 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON THE PROPERTY. I WOULD DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, COMMISSIONER THERE. UH, WE, WE CANNOT IN ANY WAY, RESTRICT THEM FROM BUILDING AN ADU UNDER STATE LAW. UM, AN ADU WOULD BE, UH, ADMINISTARILY APPROVED ANYWAY. SO IT WOULD NOT BE A MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WOULD IT BE A CONDITION OF GRANTING THIS? IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WERE TO AGREE, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE SEEN AND WELL, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WERE TO AGREE TO IT, THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AGREES TO IT, WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD BE LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE, A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW. I THINK HIS QUESTION DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS, UM, WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING, IF NOT FOR GONNA CLOSE THE COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS. DO I HEAR ANY OTHER OKAY. IN FRONT OF ME TONIGHT, WE ARE HAVING TWO ISSUES. ONE OF THEM IS THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO. AND THAT'S, UM, THAT BASICALLY CALLS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE THE LAW OR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE EXCEEDED THE 25%, UM, WHICH IS IT, IT EXCEEDS 25%. IF YOU TAKE THE 5,000, UM, JUST 25% IS 6,250 SQUARE FEET. SO THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE IS, IS, IS LARGE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, HAVE, UH, BASICALLY, UM, I'LL COMMISSIONS, HOW TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THE OTHER IS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THEY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE EXISTING HOUSE RIGHT NOW IS 27 FEET IN ORDERS TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THE DEVELOPER, UM, WANTS, OR THE OWNER WANTS. IT'S 27 FEET THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING FOR INSTEAD OF THE STANDARD THAT WE HAVE. AND, UM, IF WE'RE CLOSING THE DISCUSSIONS ALREADY, WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT INTO CONSIDERATIONS AND WE ARE, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION, ONE TO APPROVE IT, ONE TO DENY IT OR TO, TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION SPACE ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE, WHETHER THEY NEED MORE INFORMATION, MORE TIME, WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I LIKE TO MAKE A DIFFERENT MOTION. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE OPTION TO, UH, UH, UH, UH, REDUCE A SQUARE FEET BY 200 SQUARE FEET FROM THE BACK AND REDUCE A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET FROM THE FRONT. SO WE FOLLOW OUR OBLIGATION AS A, AS A CITY TO APPROVE THE PROJECT IN ACCORDANCE TO THE LAW, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME PUT IN THE VOTER'S VOICES FIRST. AND I THINK SO MY MOTION IS TO, UH, APPROVE OPTION TWO, WHAT THE REDUCTION OF 200 SQUARE FEET FROM THE BACK AND THE AMOUNT OF REDUCTION OF A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET FROM THE FRONT. DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? IS THERE A SECOND? IF THERE'S NO. SECOND, IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, INTACT AND F IT'S, UH, ALLOWABLE TO BE GRANDFATHERED TO THE, TO BATCH THE EXISTING SUBS, UH, STRUCTURE THEN, AND THAT IT WOULD BE ALLOWED. WE'LL HAVE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION OR ANOTHER MOTION [01:50:05] SHE MOTIONS TO APPROVE, UM, AS IS. AND, UM, WHAT ELSE, IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE GRANDFATHERED, UH, TO BE APPROVED FOR, UH, UH, OPTION TWO AND BASICALLY SHE WANTS TO HEIGHTS TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN AT THE SAME, UH, HEIGHT. UM, DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION CHAIR? HANG JUST FOR CLARIFICATION OF THE RECORD. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? IS THERE A, THERE, THERE, THERE'S NOT A SECOND. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? UM, OKAY, WELL, THERE'LL BE AN ANOTHER MOTION. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND MOTION FOR THAT GOING ONCE? I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION. HOWEVER, I, I WOULD WANT TO HAVE DIRECTION BACK TO STAFF TO GO BACK TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE ABLE TO ONE, UM, HAVE A, HAVE SOME SORT OF CONDITION ON, ON GRANTING THIS, UM, SUCH THAT OUR, OUR STATEWIDE LAND USE POLICIES ARE NOT IMPACTED, UM, BY, BY VIRTUE OF US SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS WITH A CONDITION THAT THEY WOULD AGREE. THERE'S NO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO BE PLACED ON THERE. AND I, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVESTIGATE, UM, ONE THE, OR, OR TWO, EXCUSE ME, THE, THE APPLICABILITY OF THE REQUIRED EXPANSION OF, OF THE GARAGE AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL CHANGE THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S PART OF THE THAT'S PART OF THE CODE, BUT, UM, PERHAPS THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN, UH, WE CAN ADJUST IN THAT AGAIN, I'M, I'M THINKING OUT LOUD. SO I APOLOGIZE IF I, UH, IF I DON'T SOUND CLEAR. UM, OKAY. SO WE HAVE EMOTIONS TO CONTINUE AND EMOTION TO SECOND MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH W W WITH THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE, OR EXCUSE ME WITH, WITH THE DIRECTIONS TO STAFF, TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, TO SEE IF, IF, IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN WORK TO PUT THIS PROJECT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF, OF, OF STATE LAW WITH REGARD TO THE OVERALL ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT CAP, MEANING I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS, AS A COMMISSIONER HERE, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THE 6,200 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM THAT THIS APPLICANT WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UM, PRETTY MUCH AS A MATTER OF RIGHT. AND, AND, AND THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY BIG ISSUE WITH THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. HALINA CAN ROLL CALL PLEASE. UM, RIGHT. AND MISSIONARY FOR SARAH OR RENEE. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ. SO, WHICH, WHICH MOST SHOW ARE WE GOING OUT WITH THEM IN HERE A SECOND? WE HAVE HER MOTION AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE COMMISSIONED THIS COMMISSIONER AND THAT COMMISSIONER IS MOTION. SO WHICH ONE ARE WE GOING OFF? SO YOU HAD ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE. ALL COMMISSION. YES. AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, NICK, NICK LEWIS HAD SECOND THOUGHT WITH ADDITIONS ADD ON, SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS. SO THAT MEANS WE'LL BE, IT'LL BE HER MOTION. AND YOU AGREE WITH THE ADD-ONS OR YOUR MOTION. SO IT'D BE HER MOTION OR WOULD THAT, OR AGREEING WITH, ADD TO HER MOTION TO ADD TO THIS? YES. YEAH. YEAH. SO, YES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT TOO, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, UH, AND THAT WILL BE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. SO WE DON'T WANT TO, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE, UH, UH, A BURDEN TO THE HOMEOWNER. UH, BUT THEN WE BRING THEM BACK TO THE NEXT MINI AS WELL. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THOSE CLARIFICATION'S COMMISSIONER. I WILL START AGAIN, COMMISSIONER VISCERA AND I SHARE GUTIEREZ COMMISSIONER LEWIS. HI, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES FIVE. OH, YOU, UM, SHARE IF I MAY. YES. UM, THE NEXT, THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS GOING TO BE FEBRUARY 9TH. HOWEVER, [01:55:01] IF THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE TO MAKE REVISIONS TO HIS PLANS, THERE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TIME TO DO SO IF THE NEXT, SINCE THE NEXT MEETING IS FEBRUARY 9TH, HOWEVER, UM, AS FAR AS THE CONTINUATION IS CONCERNED, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT ITEM BE CONTINUED TO A DATE CERTAIN OF THE 23RD, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT AND STAFF MORE TIME, UM, TO, TO WORK TOGETHER, TO, TO COME UP WITH A BETTER PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO FOR EACH WEEK WE CONTINUE THIS TO FEBRUARY 23RD MISSIONARY. IF THE OLDER DOES THEIR MIND FOR WHAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND HE'S OKAY WITH IT, HE GAVE US A THUMBS UP. SO GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO FOR THE RECORD, THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION THAT THE DATE OF CONTINUANCES TO THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY. CORRECT? RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THE RECORDS SINCE THE ITEM IS CONTINUED TO A DATE, CERTAIN NOTIFICATION NEIGHBOR NOTIFICATION WILL NOT BE CENTEL. OKAY. THANK YOU. [3. PRECISE PLAN NO. 20-04] I'M SORRY. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, I DON'T NUMBER TWO, PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 20 DASH OH FOUR PROJECT PURSUITS TO PACIFIC PLAN. APPLICANT IS CHARLES CHIP RIDDLE. THE SECOND, THE THIRD OF INTIMATE HEALTH LOCATION IS 1115 SOUTH SUNSET AVENUE. BEQUEST IS IMPLEMENTATION OF PHASE ONE EXPANSION OF THE HOSPITAL, INCLUDING A TWO STORY MEDICAL OFFICE, BUILDING NEW EMERGENCY ROOM AND ICU DEPARTMENT AND NEW FOR LEVEL PARKING WITHIN THE 28.78 ACRE QUEEN OF VALLEY HOSPITAL, PACIFIC PLAN, UM, AREA. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM STAFF, UM, REPORTS IN WHO WILL BE DOING THE REPORT FOR US, JOANNE JOANNE, OUR PLANNING MANAGER WILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. I'LL GO AHEAD AND START OFF WITH A BIT OF BACKGROUND OR HISTORY REGARDING THE QUEEN OF THE VALLEY SPECIFIC PLAN AND THE QUEEN OF THE VALLEY SITE. THE, UM, THE FIRST QUEEN OF THE VALLEY SPECIFIC PANEL WAS INITIALLY ADOPTED IN 1987. THIS ALLOWED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BIRTHING, THE BIRTH CENTER, WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE YEAR 2000. THE NEW EXP THE NEW SPECIFIC PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER, 2019, WHICH ALLOWED FOR A 490 SQUARE, UM, 490,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT. LAST YEAR IN OCTOBER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED A PRECISE PLAN TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUNSET FIELD, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY A BASEBALL FIELD THAT WAS OWNED BY THE CITY INTO A PARKING LOT FOR THE HOT FOUR OR THE HOSPITAL TO ACCOMMODATE THE HOSPITAL. USE THE V UM, THE, THE PARKING LOT WAS A PART OF THE ADOPTED SPECIFIC PLAN AND WAS CONSISTENT WITH, WITH VA SPECIFIC PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER, 2019. THE PROJECT WOULD THE PROPO, UM, THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD BE FOR THE, UM, PHASE ONE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS TO, TO CONSTRUCT THE MEDICAL OFFICE, BUILDING A PARK IN A PARKING STRUCTURE. THIS PROJECT ALSO INVOLVES ADDITIONS TO THE ICU BUILDING, UM, THE HOSPITAL BUILDING FOR THE ICE FOR A NEW ICU AND EMERGENCY ROOM DEPARTMENT. THEY'LL, I'LL GO. THIS IS A PROJECT SITE PLAN. THE PARKING STRUCTURE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN IN THE SITE PLAN, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING IN BLUE AND THE EMERGENCY ROOM BUILDING IN, IN RED. [02:00:01] THE SITE FOR THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH BUILDING F IN BUILDING G WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD BE DEMOLISHED TO ACCOMMODATE THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, BUILDING, BUILDING. HE IS ALSO ON, ON SITE NEAR WHERE THE PROPOSED MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING IS LOCATED AND BUILDING. HE WOULD BE MOVED ON A TEMPORARY BASIS TO THIS AREA, RIGHT ALONG HERE, THERE RELOCATION OF BUILDING. HE IS NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR A MINOR SITE PLAN REVIEW, UM, SEPARATELY IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. UH, THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT STATES THAT, UM, AGAIN, BUILDING E IS NOT THE RELOCATION OF BUILDING IS NOT PART OF THE PROJECT. AT THAT TIME, THE, THE PLANS WERE SUBMITTED. THE PLANS FOR THE RELOCATION OF BUILDING. HE WAS NOT, WAS NOT YET READY B MEDICAL OFFICE. THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WOULD BE SET BACK 162 FEET IN 11 IN 11 INCHES FROM THE NEAREST PROPERTY LINE TO THE NORTH EAST, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE ORIGINAL SPECIFIC PLAN OR IN THE, IN THE NEWLY ADOPTED SPECIFIC PLAN. IT, THE, THE PLAN REQUIRES A TENT, AN EIGHT FOOT TALL WALL, UM, AND A 10 FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER FROM, FROM THE, FROM THE QUEEN OF THE VALLEY SITE TO THE, TO THE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO THE EAST IN THIS, THIS, UM, WAS SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR BY THE OWNERSHIP OF THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UM, AND IS BEING CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WOULD INCLUDE, BUT WILL NOT BE LIMITED TO OPERATING ROOMS, WAITING ROOMS, NURSES, STATIONS, EXAM ROOMS, LOUNGES, ALL OFFICES, SUPPLY ROOMS, AND SO FORTH. THE MAIN ENTRANCE WOULD THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WOULD BE, WOULD FACE NORTHEAST RIGHT ALONG HERE, UM, IN THE PATIENT, THE PATIENT DROP-OFF AREA, UM, WOULD BE RIGHT ALONG HERE WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS. THE ENTRANCE WOULD INCLUDE A TOILET TOTAL OF FOUR HANDICAP PARKING SPACES AND A TOTAL OF 22 SPACES WITHIN AN ENCLOSED AREA UNLOCKED C SURROUNDED BY ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. THE PROPOSED PARKING STRUCTURE WILL BE JUST NORTH OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, AND IT WOULD BE SEPARATED FROM THE MA THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING BY A WALKWAY, UM, WITH, WITH LANDSCAPING. ONE OF THE MITIGATION MEMBERS MEASURES IN THE, IN THE PROJECT EIR WHEN THE SPECIFIC PLAN WAS ADOPTED WAS TO REQUIRE ANY STRUCTURES OVER 45 FEET OR THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT THAT WERE WITHIN 100 FEET AWAY FROM THE ORANGE WOOD PARK SOCCER FIELD, WHICH IS RIGHT ALONG HERE, UM, TO REQUIRE A SHADE AND SHADOW ANALYSIS PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, THE PARKING STRUCTURE, IT IS THE PARKING STRUCTURE IS 116 FEET AND NINE INCHES AWAY FROM THE SOCCER FIELD. SO NO SHADE AND SHADOW STUDY WOULD BE REQUIRED. UM, THE STRUCTURE, THE PARKING STRUCTURE IS SETBACK 88 FEET, 10 INCHES FROM THE CLOSEST PROPERTY LINE WHO HAD ALONG HERE, THE FIRST LEVEL OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE WOULD HAVE 63 SPACES LEVELS TWO AND THREE WOULD INCLUDE 114 SPACES AND LEVELS FOUR WOULD INCLUDE 100, 107 PARKING SPACES FOR A TOTAL OF 398 PARKING SPACES FOR PROVIDED BY THE PARKING STRUCTURE. [02:05:03] SURFACE PARKING IS PROVIDED ADJACENT TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE, THE SITES FOR THE EMERGENCY ROOM BUILDING IN, UH, EVERY EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT IN ICU BUILDING INCLUDES, UM, AN EXISTING BUILDING WITH SURFACE PARKING, WHICH WOULD BE DEMOLISHED AS PART OF THE PROJECT TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW STRUCTURE. THE TWO STORY EMERGENCY ROOM BILL EMERGENCY AND ICU BUILDING WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE EXISTING EDUCATION ANNEX TO THE WEST OF THE MAIN HOSPITAL IN SOUTH OF ORANGE GROVE PARK. HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING FOR THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING THE LANDSCAPE CONCEPT FOR PHASE ONE WOULD INCLUDE TREES LOW ON ORNAMENTAL GRASSES, MID HEIGHT SHRUBS, TALL SHRUBS, AND SCREENS, GROUND COVERS, AND A MIXTURE OF SUCCULENT ACCENTS. THE, THE LANDSCAPING, UM, IS, IS PROPOSED PREDOMINANTLY ON THE PERIMETER OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING ON ITS SIDE, UM, ON THE NORTH. AND ALSO THERE IS ALSO GOING TO BE LANDSCAPING NEAR THE DRY NEAR THE DRIVEWAY ISLES. AND ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE HERE IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS. ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANTS, THE CONCEPT BEHIND THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS TO ESTABLISH A COHESIVE AND CONTEMPORARY DESIGN CHARACTER FOR THE CAMPUS THAT CREATES A DYNAMIC RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE EXISTING AND NEW BUILDINGS. ADDITIONALLY, THE, THE DESIGN SEEKS TO REPLACE OUTDATED AND OBSOLETE, OBSOLETE BUILDINGS WITH IT, WITH MODERN MORE MODERN FACILITIES, A DESIGN, THE DESIGN WOULD COMPLY WITH GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS AND WOULD MAXIMIZE ENERGY EFFICIENCY. HERE IS A COLORED RENDERING OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WITH, WITH THE PROPOSED COLORS AND BUILDING MATERIAL. SO THE, THE, THE, UM, MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WILL INCLUDE METAL PANELS AND IN COLOR COLORED CONCRETE, AND ALSO GLASS HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE PROPOSED PARKING STRUCTURE, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHTS FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE AS MEASURED FROM LOWEST GRADE TO THE HIGHEST POINT IS 45 FEET TALL. AND IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD MATCH THE METAL PANELS AND CON THE COLOR OF THE CONCRETE OF THE, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING HERE ARE HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING FOR, FOR THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND ICU LAMP. UM, IN ICU, THE THIRD WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 38 TREES, UM, EXISTING IN YOU, UH, WHICH WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PARKING LOT THAT THE LANDSCAPE CONCEPT FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PAIS WOULD INCLUDE, AGAIN, TREES, ORNAMENTAL, GRASSES, MID HEIGHT SHRUBS, TALL SHRUBS, SCREENS, GROUND COVER, AND SO FORTH HERE IS ELEVATION FOR THE ICE FOR THE ICU AND THE MEDICAL BUILDING. THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE TWO STORIES AND WITH A HEIGHT OF 40 FEET, 44 FEET TALL, I'M SORRY. JOANNE, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? THE, THE, UM, EMERGENCY ROOM AND ICU BUILDING WOULD BE TWO STORIES AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE 40 FEET, 44 FEET TALL IN HEIGHT AS MEASURED FROM LOWEST GRADE TO THE HIGHEST POINT. HERE ARE [02:10:01] THE, THE, UM, RENDERING AND ALSO THE MATERIAL IN COLOR BOARD FOR THE EXISTING OR FOR THE PROPOSED MEDICAL OFFICE OR EMERGENCY ROOM DEPARTMENT IN ICU. I'M SORRY, THE, AGAIN, IT'LL, IT'LL USE, IT'LL USE COLORED CONCRETE SIMILAR TO, TO THE PARKING, THE COLOR OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND THE, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. AND IT ALSO HAS SOME FEATURES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING HOSPITAL BUILDING AS WELL. YEAH, AS FAR AS SEQUENCE CONCERNED ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2019, THE CITY COUNCIL TERRIFIED THE QUEEN OF THE VALLEY HOSPITAL SPECIFIC PLAN PROGRAM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. THE COUNCIL FOUND THAT THE FINAL PROGRAM EIR WAS COMPLETE AND IT WAS PREPARED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT SEEK WELL LAST FOR THE PREPARATION OF THE AGENDA TO ASSERT TO A CERTIFIED EIR, TO DOCUMENT MINOR CHANGES IN THE PROJECT CHARACTERISTICS OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THE PROJECT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THIS CASE, AN ADDENDUM TO THE PROGRAM EIR WAS REPAIRED, AND IT WAS FOUND THAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED DAR AND WHAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN SINCE THE SPECIFIC PLAN ITSELF MENTIONED ALL THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION ON THE QUEEN OF THE VALLEY SITE IN FACES. AND EACH ONE OF THE, OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TODAY ARE, WERE DESCRIBED IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN. IT'S BE SPECIFIC. THE, THE ADDENDUM WAS PREPARED BY THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, WHICH IS A SOMA SO MUCH IS, IS PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY THROUGH ZOOM. SO IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ZUMIEZ, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ASSIST IN ANSWERING ANY, ANY ENVIRONMENTAL RELATED QUESTIONS. AFTER THE STAFF REPORT, THE CITY HAS DETERMINED THAT THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS RESULTING FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THE SEVERITY OF ANY PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS IN NON NEW MITIGATION MEASURES ARE REQUIRED. NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING WAS SENT TO 463 OWNERS AND OCCUPANTS WITHIN 300 FEET FROM THE SITE. IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER, AND IT IS ALSO POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE SITE B THE QUEEN, THE QUEEN OF THE VALLEY MATTERS HOSPITAL MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS NOW CURRENTLY EMINENT HEALTH. THEY HAD, THEY HAD CON UM, CONDUCTED SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN, UM, PRIOR TO THIS SPECIFIC PLAN BEING ADOPTED. AND THEY HAVE ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND CONDUCTED COMMUNITY MEETINGS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION WITH THIS STAFF MAKE FALSE POSITIVE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING PLUS PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO FOUR IN THE EIR AGENDA WITH REVISIONS TO PARAGRAPH TWO ON PAGE FOUR OF THE RESOLUTION. AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE CHANGE TO PAIR, UM, TO, TO THE, THIS PARTICULAR SECTION THAT THE STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT PURSUANT TO ALL THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BOTH ORAL AND DOCUMENTARY, AND FURTHER BASED ON THE FINDINGS ABOVE PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO FOUR IS APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM ATTACHED HERE TOO, AS EXHIBIT A, WHICH INCORPORATES THE APPLICABLE MITIGATION MEASURES FROM THE QUEEN OF THE VALLEY HOSPITAL SPECIFIC PLAN PROGRAM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. SO THE, THE MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM DOCUMENT WAS PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE MEDIC MITIGATION PROGRAM AND MODERATE MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM. AT PART OF THAT, THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL EIR HAD CERTAIN, CERTAIN MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT WAS APPLICABLE TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN. SO [02:15:01] IN ORDER TO, TO NOT REQUIRE THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE NOT APPLICABLE, THAT ARE IN THE ORIGINAL EAR, THAT ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS PROJECT, UM, IN ORDER TO SCREEN THAT OUT, THE, UH, NEW MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM WOULD HAVE TO BE ADOPTED AS WELL. OKAY. IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS I'M, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER, AND THE APPLICANT'S TEAM IS PARTICIPATING THROUGH ZOOM AS WELL. WELL, THANK YOU, JOANNE FOR THE REPORT. YEAH. AND I'M GOING TO OPEN UP TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US CURRENTLY, UM, BEFORE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. I, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT F AROUND FIVE 30, RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM, FROM ROBERT TORRES, WHICH I FORWARDED TO THE QUEEN OF THE, TO THE APPLICANTS. AND I ALSO PRINTED OUT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, AND I BELIEVE HE, HE WAS CONCERNED WITH, UM, OR HE IS REQUESTING THAT, THAT EMINENT CONSTRUCT A FENCE NEAR, NEAR THE PARK OR ALONG THE PARK PROPERTY LINE. UM, IN ADDITION TO THIS, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT STAFF DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL, UM, FROM THE OWNERSHIP OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING ON RESET. AND THAT EMAIL WAS MADE PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET, BECAUSE IT WAS SENT TO US PRIOR TO PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET DELIVERY. AND HE IS CONCERNED WITH A TREE THAT IS, UM, WHICH HAS THREE ROOTS THAT, UH, THAT IS BREAKING UP HIS, HIS PARKING LOT. AND HE WOULD LIKE ASSISTANCE FROM EMINENT TO REMOVE THAT TREE THAT IS ON EMINENCE PROPERTY WITH THAT I'M OPEN TO PLANNING COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. A QUICK QUESTION WITH REGARD TO BOTH OF THESE EMAIL REQUESTS, ARE THEY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT BEFORE US TODAY? I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A NEXUS BETWEEN THE, THE PROJECT AND THE REQUESTS FROM, FROM THE APPLICANT. HOWEVER, I WOULD, I WOULD, OR FROM THE REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER AND ALSO, AND ALSO FROM THE, THE RESIDENT REGARDING PUTTING IN A FENCE ALONG THE PARK PROPERTY. UM, BUT I WOULD DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR CLARIFICATION. UM, ALSO, JOANNE, CAN YOU POINT US ON THE SITE PLAN, WHICH AREA IS DEFENSE THAT HE'S REQUESTING FOR? IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ON THE WEST. UM, THIS, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE ALONG HERE IS, UM, IS THE PARK I BELIEVE IS A PARK THAT HE'S, UM, HE'S SPEAKING ABOUT AND IT WOULD BE AROUND THIS AREA. SO, OKAY. SO CURRENTLY WITHOUT THE FENCE, ANYONE CAN WALK FROM THE PARKS TO THE PARKING LOT AS WELL. I BELIEVE THERE'S A CHAIN. LIKE I, I BELIEVE THERE IS, UM, THERE IS A FENCE THERE IT'S JUST THAT I BELIEVE THE LETTER WAS SAYING THAT PEOPLE WERE CONSTANTLY BREAKING THE FENCE OR, OR, UM, OR REMOVING THE, THE, THE CURRENT BLOCK BLOCKAGE THAT'S ALREADY THERE. AND, AND GOING ON ONTO THE PARK SITE, DOES THE CHAIN LINK FENCE BELONG TO THE HOSPITAL APPARENTLY OR MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? IF MY, IF I MAY. UM, I AGREE WITH JOANNE'S, UH, ANALYSIS THAT THESE ARE NOT TIED TO THE PROPERTY OR THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU. UM, THE ONE IS AN EXISTING CONDITION OF A TREE AND PACT AND, UM, AND THE OTHER IS, IT APPEARS FROM THE EMAIL, FROM THE, UM, FROM THE NUMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT APPEARS TO BE A CITY FENCE. UM, BUT IN ANY EVENT, THE EMAIL SIMPLY, UH, ASKED THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER OR ASK US TO REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT CONSIDER A WROUGHT IRON FENCE, AND JOANNE HAS ACCORDINGLY, UH, FORWARDED THAT COMMUNICATION TO THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY, GO AHEAD. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, IT'S CALLED IN MOUNTIE, SORRY. I'M NOT SAYING IT RIGHT. AND MONTSE HELP. [02:20:01] UM, MY QUESTION IS, UM, IN THE FUTURE, IF LET'S JUST SAY THE COUNTY OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS TO GARNER MORE FUNDS TO ONE DAY, UH, OPEN UP A TRAUMA CENTER HERE IN WEST COVINA, SPECIFICALLY AT YOUR HOSPITAL, UM, WHAT WOULD THE CURRENT DESIGNS AND, AND ASPECTS OF A TRAUMA CENTER MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IF ONE DAY, UH, THE COUNTY WANTED TO COME BACK IN AND AWARD, UH, UH, EMERGENCY HEALTH AID AS A TRAUMA CENTER, THE QUESTION WAS REFERRED, UM, IS FOR EMINENT HEALTH, THE PLANNING, THE CHAIR, I SUGGEST THE SHARE SHOULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. OKAY. UM, I'LL SO OPEN, UM, WHICH IS OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, SO FOR THE AVE CARD GAME, I BELIEVE CHIP CHIP BRITTLE, UM, AND TONY BLAKELY IS ON, ON THE LINE. UM, AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER, UM, THERE ARE OTHER INDIVIDUALS SPEAKING FOR, IN THE APPLICANT'S TEAM, SO THEY ARE PARTICIPATING THROUGH ZOOM. OKAY. WE CAN'T SEE YOU. SO I GUESS WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? I DID ASK THE APPLICANTS TO UNMUTE THEMSELVES. SO IF THEY CAN DO THAT, PLEASE GO AHEAD. ASK THE APPLICANT AGAIN, RIGHT. HI, SORRY. UH, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU ALL, FOR, FOR CHOOSING OUR COMMUNITY TO EXPAND YOUR HOSPITAL. I THINK IT'S GONNA CREATE A LOT OF RESOURCES FOR OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO NEED HEALTHCARE. BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT IF IN THE FUTURE ONE DAY, UM, THE COUNTY OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS TO ONE DAY GARNER MORE FUNDS FOR WEST COVINA AND, AND, AND WANT TO NAME YOUR HOSPITAL AS A TRAUMA CENTER LIKE THEY DID FOR PROMOTE, UH, WHAT THE WORLD, THIS DESIGN MEET ANY QUALIFICATIONS OR MEET THE MINIMUM FOR, TO OPERATE AS A TRAUMA CENTER, IF ONE DAY NEED IT. THIS IS CHIPOTLE AND THE CHIEF SUPPORT SERVICES OFFICER AT M AND A HELL AND THE, UH, TRAUMA ONE CENTER, UH, DESIGNATION IS A VERY, UM, ONEROUS PROCESS, WHICH HAS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, EVERYTHING FROM HELIPORT TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. UH, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE NOT GOT ALL THOSE ELEMENTS INCORPORATED INTO THE NEW ED AND ICU. UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, AT THE TIME OF GOING OUT FOR THAT DESIGNATION. SO THERE'S MORE THAN JUST THE BUILDING, UH, CONFIGURATION AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARD OR ANYONE ON THE PHONE? SURE. HANG, UM, EXCUSE ME, CHAIR, HANG. UH, WE, WE HAVE, WE SHOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO, UH, SPEAK ON, ON THEIR APPLICATION. OKAY. OKAY. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN WE DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE COMPUTER AND OTHER SCREEN, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE. SO THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. WAS THERE ANOTHER QUESTION WE NEED TO ANSWER OR WE CAN ANSWER. AND FOR CLARIFICATION, WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON, ON YOUR APPLICATION BEFORE OPENING UP TO OTHER COMMENTS. OH, WELL I THINK, UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS, UM, WE'VE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO LOOK AT ALL THE, UM, NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO EXPAND OUR CAMPUS, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE SEE IN THE FUTURE FOR EXPANDING OUR EMERGENCY ROOM AND ICU. UM, WE CURRENTLY ARE, UH, HAVING AN ER THAT IS DESIGNED FOR A CAPACITANCE OF APPROXIMATELY 40,000, UH, VISITS. AND WE ARE LOGGING LAST YEAR UP [02:25:01] TO 80,000 ER VISITS, AND WE'RE DESIGNING A STATE-OF-THE-ART ER, UH, ED, UH, AN ASSOCIATED ICU, UM, FOR 120,000 VISITS WELLS, WHICH WILL SEE US INTO THE FUTURE. THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WILL HAVE A, UH, AGAIN, STATE OF THE ART CANCER CENTER AND ASSOCIATED, UH, SURGERY, INVENTORY SURGERY CENTER, AND THE, UM, ASSOCIATED, UH, WHAT WE CALL HOSPITAL-BASED PHYSICIAN CLINICS IN THAT SWITCH. YOU'RE ALL, UH, NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS ALL THE ASSOCIATED PARKING NETWORK, EXPANDING FOR THE CAPACITY CAPACITANCE FOR THESE BUILDINGS AND THESE SERVICES. IS THAT, WAS THAT IT? OKAY. THANK YOU. IS ANYONE ELSE WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTATIONS ON THEIR, ON BEHALF, ON THEIR BEHALF? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT'S IT, THEN WE'RE OPEN UP FOR SPEAKERS. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO SPEAK FOR THE HOSPITAL, SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE AGAINST. HE SAYS THE CARD THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE IS ANYONE ON THE PHONE, THAT'S IT. OKAY. SO THAT'S SAYING THEN WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, HO OBVIOUSLY I THINK WE ALL HOPE THAT THIS PANDEMIC IS PUT BEHIND US AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT, UH, UM, GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION, I WAS CURIOUS WHETHER OR NOT, UH, UM, YOU ALL HAD CONSIDERED THE, UH, THE IMPLICATIONS OF COVID-19 AND, AND ITS IMPACT ON YOUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND WHETHER OR NOT, UH, YOU GUYS HAD CONSIDERED, UH, ANY, UH, ANY ADDITIONS OR, OR MAKING ANY CHANGES TO YOUR PLANS, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN LIGHT OF THINGS THAT YOU'VE LEARNED, UH, GOING THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC. YES, WE HAVE. WE'VE UM, GONE BACK WITH THE ARCHITECTS MOST SPECIFICALLY WITH THE E R OR THE ED ICU, UH, DESIGN, AND REALLY LOOKED AT OUR SURGE CAPACITANCE. AND WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF THE SYSTEMS AS FAR AS, UM, WITH THE PANDEMIC PANDEMIC. WE LOOKED AT INCREASING OUR, WHAT WE CALL NEGATIVE AIR ROOMS, UH, FOR, UH, CONTAINING, UH, ANY TYPE OF THE PANDEMIC FLU SO THAT WE CAN, UH, CREATE WHAT WE CALL NEGATIVE AIR TO PROTECT THE OCCUPANTS THROUGHOUT THE ER. UH, WE LOOKED AT HOW WE GOING TO STAGE ANY OF THE SURGE CAPACITANCE TENTS. UH, WE DID HAVE A NUMBER OF LESSONS LEARNED, UH, WITH THE EXISTING ER AND ITS CAPACITY. THAT'S WE'VE REINCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN AND TAKING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, UH, TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, UH, LESSONS LEARNED THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC. SO IT HAS BEEN AN EYE-OPENER. EXCELLENT. THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY NEXT QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, THE NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS. I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW, HOW MANY OF THOSE ROOMS WILL BE, UH, IN THE, UH, I GUESS THE ICU AND, OR THE, UH, THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT EXPANSION. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO, UH, MET, UH, MET BY GARBA. ARE YOU ON, I KNOW WE, WE INCREASED PROBABLY ANOTHER, UM, I WOULD SAY A NOTHER 30%, 40% MORE OF, UM, UH, NEGATIVE AIR ROOMS. I CAN'T I'VE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THE DRAWINGS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I CAN'T COUNT THE NUMBERS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE DID INCREASE. UM, WE HAD SPECIFIC INPUT FROM OUR ER PHYSICIAN DIRECTOR OF THE ER AND THE, UH, UH, NURSING DIRECTOR FOR THAT, ER, [02:30:01] THEY'VE BEEN VERY, UH, CLOSELY INVOLVED AND VERY VOCAL ABOUT THE, UH, DESIGN INCREASES IN NEEDS, UH, FROM WHAT WE EXPERIENCED THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC OVER THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS AS A FOOTNOTE AND AS, AS A FOOTNOTE, UM, REGARDING THE FENCE, WE ARE, UH, UH, VERY COGNIZANT OF THE REQUEST BY THE ADJACENT OWNERS ABOUT THE TREES, UH, ENCROACHING, UH, THROUGH THE FENCE AND WE WILL ADDRESS THOSE, THOSE CONCERNS. THANK YOU. AND ALSO OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW MANY ICU ROOMS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AND WITH THE INCREASE OF 30%, HOW MANY ADDITIONALLY, APPROXIMATE THAT YOU THINK THAT WE'RE? WELL, WE HAVE, UH, A DESIGN FOR TWO MODULES OF 12 OR AN ADDITIONAL 24. ICU'S ABOVE THE ED ICU, UH, ED, UM, DEPARTMENT. AND I'VE GOT, UH, THE ARCHITECT. I SEE HE'S, UH, UN-MUTED HERE AND HE CAN RESPOND TO THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF ADDED NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS. ARE YOU AVAILABLE ME? HELLO? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU ALL RIGHT. YES. SO, UH, TIP, I THINK WHAT'D, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER CLOSE TO 30% IS WHAT IS TARGETED RIGHT NOW. AND WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, WORKING IT OUT WITH OSHPOD, UH, IN TERMS OF THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE FUTURE. WE NEED TO CONVERT MORE, BUT YES, WE HAVE 24 ROOMS AND, UH, CLOSE TO 30%, UH, THE DESIGNING FOR THE, UH, NEGATIVE PRESSURE. SO IT'S, IT'S ABOUT 24 ROOMS, TWO 34 ROOMS, NO, SORRY, YOU'D BE ADDING 24 ICU. SO CLOSE TO ONE THIRD OF THAT. UH, WE ARE DESIGNING FOR NEGATIVE PRESSURE SYLVIA HAVING AROUND EIGHT ROOMS, NEGATIVE PRESSURE, AND THE TOTAL 24 ROOMS OF ICU. SO THANK YOU LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS AND, AND SAY THAT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO OPEN UP FOR, UM, I, I'M NOT SURE IF, UM, UH, ARE THERE, WE, THE ANSWER, ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS, IF THEY HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS OR DID, UH, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE APPLICANTS, WHICH THEY WENT OVER READY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR ANY SPEAKER CARDS, WHETHER IT'S HERE ON THE PHONE OR EMAIL, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARD WHO LIKED TO COME UP TO SPEAK? THIS IS A FAST, UM, PUBLIC HEARING. YEP. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO IF THAT'S NO CARDS IS HERE, SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, OPEN FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS CURRENTLY. SO ANYONE WANTS TO GO FIRST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS HOSPITAL. ALL RIGHT. UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, LIKE I JUST CAN'T WAIT. SO, UH, THIS BECOMES A REALITY AND IT OPENS TO OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW OUR COMMUNITY IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF HAVING SUCH A RESOURCE LIKE THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT'S GOING TO A LOT TO THAT, MAN. THANK YOU, UH, TO THE, TO THE HOSPITAL STAFF AND NURSES AND EVERYONE WHO WORKS THERE AND, AND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM FOR WANTING TO DO THIS IN OUR CITY, IT'S AN TO BRING MUCH NEEDED SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S A MUCH APPRECIATIVE ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANYONE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS OR I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. SO HOLD ON ONE SEC. I ACTUALLY, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. WE GOT IT. WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO THERE, WE'RE DOING IT, UH, UH, DISCUSSIONS FIRST, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE [02:35:01] THE MEETING AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON THAT. SO FOR NOW, UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOSPITAL AND HOPEFULLY FOR, UM, THE HOSPITAL STAFF, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE CARD IN FRONT OF ME, SO I'M JUST LIKE, I'M GOING BLIND. OKAY. CHIP, CAN YOU HELP ME ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS ON THE PARKING LOT THAT IS TO THE WEST OF THE SITE PLAN CURRENTLY THE GREEN ONE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE SITE PLAN, IF IT'S COLOR GREEN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE ALL PRESENTATIONS CURRENTLY, THEY CAN. SO THE GREEN SECTIONS, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S FOUR STORY HIGH, BUT THEN PAST THE, THE DRAINAGE AREA, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE ON THAT SIDE. CAN I ASSUME THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE CAN SEE THE PARKING STRUCTURE? IS THAT CORRECT ASSUMPTION? THERE ARE SOME TREES ON THE BACK OF THE LOT, THE VERY BACK. UM, I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY COULD LOOK OVER THEIR FENCES AND MAYBE SEE THE VERY TOP OF IT. UM, REMEMBER THE, UM, THE HOSPITAL IS SIX STORIES, SO THEY WOULD DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIX STORY, UH, HOSPITAL, BUT THIS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY ONE THIRD, THAT HEIGHT. SO THE PARKING STRUCTURE, I MEAN, THE HOSPITAL LOOKS LIKE A HUGE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING WITH GLASS. SO IT'S SOMEWHAT, VERY PLEASANT TO LOOK AT. HOWEVER, THE PARKING STRUCTURES FOR THE RESIDENT WHO LIVES ON THAT SIDE, WHICH IS OVER THE DRAINAGE, IS THAT LA DWAYNE. AND WHAT IT'S CALLED, I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS. ZOE WASH, THE BIG WASH. UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE ARE SOME SCREENING FOR THAT PARKING STRUCTURES FOR THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE IT'S HARD, A BIG STRUCTURE THAT IS FOUR STORY HIGH CURRENTLY WHAT THE DRAWING, WHAT YOU HAVE AS A STRONG IS WHAT THE RESIDENT WILL BE SEEING. AND IS THERE ANY VENDORING THAT WE CAN SEE FROM WHAT'S THE RESIDENTS' PERSPECTIVE AS WELL? WOW. THE BUILDING FOR THE HOSPITAL. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE PARKING STRUCTURES FROM THE RESIDENTS POINT OF VIEW, IF THAT WAS ADDRESSED WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE SPECIFIC PLAN, BUT I'LL LET JOANNE OKAY. AND YOU PULLED UP THE STRUCTURE FOR THAT PARKING STRUCTURE, JOHN. OKAY. IS THIS THE ELEVATOR YOU WANT? DID YOU WANT THE ELEVATION? YES. THAT IS THE ELEVATION. YEAH, THERE IS SCREEN. I'M TRYING TO GO ON GOOGLE MAPS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT. OKAY. THERE IS CURRENTLY LIKE A TREE LINING THAT KIND OF SCREENED SOME OF THE APARTMENTS ALONG THE BACK WHILE SHE BRINGS IT UP. AYE, AYE, AYE. ALONG ONE SIDE, IT'S VERY TALL TREES ALONG THE SUNSET PARKWAY OR SORRY, SUNSET FIELDS WHERE THOSE USED TO BE. UM, THE ONES ON THE EASTERN PORTION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT SHE'LL SHOW YOU. I SEE THAT ALSO, THIS IS, UM, THIS WILL BE ADJUST TO CHARLES CHIP OR, UM, THE ARCHITECT THAT WAS EARLIER SPEAKING. UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO IS TO MAKE THAT BUILDING LOOK A LITTLE NICER? I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME BUILDING AND PARKING STRUCTURES THAT HAS PLANTERS, A WIND, SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY MAKE IT LOOKS LIKE NOT TOO BULKY AND MASSIVE. AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW TREES, UH, THAT WILL BE BEYOND THE PARKING STRUCTURE BECAUSE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES FROM THE PARKING STRUCTURE TO THE BACK OF OUR LOT. AND THERE ARE TREES ON ISLANDS, UM, THROUGHOUT THAT PARKING, WHICH WILL SOFTEN THAT SIDE OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE. WE HAVE A SCREENING ON THE, UH, SUNSET SIDE AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THOSE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TAKEN CONSIDERATION INTO SCREENING PART OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE. I, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK FROM THE RESIDENT TIME. I KNOW IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE WASH AND THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THREE OR 400 FEET AWAY, [02:40:01] UH, THOSE RESIDENCES, I KNOW THERE'S A FENCE ALONGSIDE A LOT OF THOSE HOUSES. UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PERSPECTIVE IS FROM THAT SIDE. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK. HMM. I SEE. I JUST HOPING THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD, SORRY. NOPE, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. UM, THE TREES THAT I'M SEEING CURRENTLY, IT'S VERY SPORADIC. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN ADD MORE TREE WITH MORE SCREENING AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WITH THE TREE, WILL YOU BE SEEING THE BIG, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW, IF YOU'RE FIVE FEET STANDING ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AT IT WITH A FULL FOOT STORY? I MEAN, A FOUR STORY HIGH BUILDING, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. SO YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING AND THERE WAS A PARK IN THE PAST. SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO SOFTEN THE PARKING STRUCTURE? THAT'S A WORD THAT YOU USED. I'M SORRY. I JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE EDITING SCREENING FOR THE APARTMENTS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY OR THE ONES ACROSS THE WASH. NO, THE PARKING STRUCTURE ITSELF, THE PARKING STRUCTURE ITSELF, IF YOU CAN SCREEN AND SOFTEN THE MASSIVE PARKING STRUCTURES FROM THE RESIDENTS POINT OF VIEW. YES. SO THIS IS A MYTH. UM, WE HAVE SOME SECTIONS THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY SHARE WITH THE CITY AND BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY EDGE. AND AS CHIP MENTIONED THAT, UH, TREES, UH, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE, UH, NOT STREAMLINED, BUT BECAUSE THE WAY THEY'RE PLACED, UH, DOES SCREEN THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND ALL THE EXPOSED STORY. THE TOTAL HEIGHT ON ONE SIDE IS 35 FEET AND THE OTHER SIDE OF DROPS DOWN. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIDE ANGLE, THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE A SECTION. UH, WE CAN EVEN, UH, HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING ADJACENT TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE TO PUT US OFF IN THAT AND WE HAVE EXPLORED THOSE OPTIONS. SO, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH JOANNE ON THAT. I REALLY LIKED THAT, UM, TO SEE IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT PORTION TO SOFTEN THE BUILDING STRUCTURES FROM WHERE ALL THE RESIDENTS' PERSPECTIVE, I'M JUST PICKING A POINT OF VIEW FROM THAT SIDE. I'M SORRY. I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SPEAKING AND WE'RE BOTH SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING AMID, UH, I'VE GOT A POINT SO WE CAN WORK ON THAT AND, UH, SHOW YOU THE SECTIONS. ALSO, WE CAN WORK WITH JAN AND SHOW THE SITE SECTIONS. OKAY. SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CREATE A PERSPECTIVE VIEW FOR US TO LOOK AT AS WELL. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER SHELBY WILLIAMS. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTIONS FOR SIMON? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD IN THE ADDENDUM OF THE EIR, THAT THEN WOULD BE, UM, DAILY, UH, TRIP GENERATION TRAFFIC OF ABOUT 2,500 TO 3000. IS THAT CORRECT? LEE ALIYAH FROM SOMAS IS ON THE LINE. SHE IS THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT. SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE PROJECT. YEAH. UM, HELLO, THIS IS AUDIO COOKIE WITH SO MUCH. CAN YOU POSSIBLY, UM, REPEAT YOUR QUESTION AGAIN? YES. UM, I THOUGHT I SIGNED THE AGENDA MID INDICATED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT PHASE ONE, THAT THERE WOULD POSSIBLY BE A GENERATION OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC OF 2,500 TO 3000. IS THAT CORRECT? UM, THERE WAS, AND ONE LOCATION, THERE WAS A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UH, TRIPS AND THE PREVIOUS, UM, PROJECT, WHICH WAS THE ENTIRE, UM, CAMPUS. SO THAT TRIP GENERATION WAS 3,625 DAILY TRIPS, WHICH INCLUDED 291, UH, A M PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND [02:45:01] PACES 6:00 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS. NOW, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT PAGE THREE DASH ONE 19 OF THE ICE AND THE PROJECT TRIP GENERATION, THE DAILY TRIP IS 2,579. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE YOU ANTICIPATING APPROXIMATELY OVER A MILLION TRIPS A YEAR FOR THE NEW SECTIONS OF THE HOSPITAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR, IF THE CALCULATION GIVES YOU THAT NUMBER, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER. BUT HOWEVER, AS I INDICATED EARLIER, IT'S DEFINITELY, UM, MORE THAN 1000 TRIPS LEFT PER DAY AND IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, THE PROGRAM HERE I ARE, HE LOOKS AT THE WORST CONDITION CASE CONDITION AND BASED ON THE REALITY OF WHAT'S PROPOSED NOW, UH, THE TRIPS ARE ACTUALLY LESS. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE TRIPS WILL PROBABLY BE SLIGHTLY LESS BECAUSE OF THE SIZES OF THE, UM, TWO NEW BUILDINGS. ALL RIGHT, BECAUSE THE SIZES ARE SMALLER THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. SO AS A RESULT, TRIPS ARE LESS AS WELL. THANK YOU. AND I'LL COMMISSIONER, UH, ONE QUESTION, UM, BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC MEMORIES AS A CITY STAFF QUESTION HAS A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, UH, DETERMINED ANY MORE STREETLIGHTS NEEDED FOR, BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING A PARKING STRUCTURE, THE WAY CARS, EXIT, UH, WOULD I INCREASE THE TRAFFIC FLOW THERE? AND IS THERE ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE DOING OR THE HOSPITAL WE SUPPORT SUPPORTING SOME OF THE, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO IMPROVEMENTS WHERE STREETLIGHTS AND SURROUNDING THAT AREA OR, OR HAVING TO, UH, INSTALL STREETLIGHTS BECAUSE, UM, PARKING STRUCTURE AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE EXITING FROM WHATEVER EXIT THERE'LL BE EXITING FROM THERE IS PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. UM, I THINK DARREN CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. NO, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER QUESTIONS FOR AMID THE ARCHITECT. UM, IF YOU CAN HELP ME ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ALONG THE PARK AREA, UM, THE HOSPITAL TAKE GREAT CARE TO SCREEN, UM, ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOSPITAL WITH, UH, A NICE BIG BLOCK WALL SO THAT, YOU KNOW, CREATE A GREAT SCREEN FOR THAT, UH, RESIDENT ON THAT SIDE, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE. HOWEVER, UM, ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS HAD A CONCERN REGARDING THE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN THE PARK AND THE HOSPITAL. CAN YOU ADDRESS BECAUSE BASED ON THE SITE PLAN, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE SOMEONE REALLY SMALL. SO THE CURRENT IS A TEAMING PLAN AND SIMILAR TO THE EARLIER DISCUSSION FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE, THERE ARE EXISTING TREES AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE TREES IN THE PARKING BETWEEN THE ED ICU EXPANSION, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE PLAYGROUND. UM, THE SIMILARLY TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE, WE CAN PROVIDE VIEWS FOR THAT. AND IF REQUIRED, UH, UM, PROBABLY THAT'S SOMETHING CHIP WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS IF WE NEED TO REQUIRE AND BUILD A NEW WALL. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THE EXISTING FANS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT CHIP. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT. I'M SORRY. SO THE CURRENT DESIGN, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I WILL HAVE TO VERIFY IT, BUT THE CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS QUITE TALL. I THINK IT'S 15 OR 20 FEET TALL, UH, THAT ADJOINS OUR PARKING LOT, OUR CURRENT PARKING LOT TO THE SOCCER FIELD IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS AT THE CITIES. AND MOST OF THAT, THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, THE SOCCER FIELD COMING ACROSS TOWARDS US. WE ASK, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT REPAIRED AND WE TRY AND MAINTAIN THAT BECAUSE WE [02:50:01] DON'T WANT THAT TRANSFER OF TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY. SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT JUST TO SEE HOW WE CAN SHORE UP THAT, UH, SECURITY. DOES THAT ANSWER, ANSWER THE QUESTION? IS THAT THE, THE FENCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, I HAVE A FENCE UP IN THE PROJECTOR. SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE FENCE THAT THIS IS THE SOCCER FIELD. UM, AND THEN THE FENCE IS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO CURRENTLY IT HAS THAT, UM, DOES ANY OF ALL FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAS ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PULL ON? WE'RE GONNA, UH, YOU'RE IN A HURRY. UM, OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE COMMISSION. UM, ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE, UM, COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND GO AHEAD. UM, BEFORE WE CLOSED THE COMMISSION ON DISCUSSIONS, I ACTUALLY LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING. THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT. UM, WE DON'T HAVE A HOSPITAL IN WEST COVINA SINCE THE QUEEN OF VALLEY BUILT IN 1960 SOMETHING LEAVE AT 62 OR 65, FORGOT THE DATE. EXACTLY. HOWEVER, IT'S A HUGE PROJECT. I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THAT THE HOSPITALS COMING INTO A CITY, IT ADDS, YOU KNOW, OUR POPULATION IS GROWING IT'S AGING AND WE NEEDED THE SERVICE. ESPECIALLY DURING THIS PANDEMIC, WE NEED MORE OF THE SERVICE. HOWEVER, I ALSO, UM, JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE SO MANY PAGES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I MEAN, I LOST COUNT AFTER A THOUSAND SOMETHING PAGES. AND I ACTUALLY, IF I MAY, UM, LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS SO THAT WE HAVE MORE TIMES TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT. IT'S SO QUICK, IT'S A LOT HUGE PACKAGE, EVEN THOUGH I GOT A TEENY LITTLE DISC THAT IS NO MORE THAN THREE INCHES TALL AND OPENING UP THAT FILE, IT WAS LIKE, WHOA, WHERE'S THE BOOK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME WITH IT. BUT ANYWAY, WE GOT A DISC AND A LOT TO GO THROUGH. SO I LIKE TO SEE IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS MORE LIKE TO SECOND THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE SESSIONS AND GO AHEAD. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PROJECT AS IS. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? AND DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR ANOTHER, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. UM, I, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, JUST BASED UPON THE MOTION THAT WAS PRESENTED, UM, GIVEN, GIVEN THE FACT THAT, UH, UH, GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION IN THE WORLD, WHAT IS THE, UH, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE BY WHICH YOU WOULD BREAK GROUND SUBSEQUENT? OKAY. APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT WOULD ANSWER THAT CHECK. SURE. SO, UH, ED ICU ASKED ACCESS TO GO TO, UH, HOT-SPOTS, WHICH IS STATE PLANNING OFFICE UP PLANNING AND DESIGN TO BE APPROVED. AND THAT SIMPLY TAKES SEVEN TO EIGHT MONTHS TO APPROVE THE PLAN IS TO SEND THAT TO OUR SPOT AT THE, AT THE END OF JANUARY. SO WE WOULDN'T BE BREAKING GROUND ON THE ACTUAL, UH, ED ICU UNTIL THE FALL, BUT WE WILL START TO MAKE READY WORK. AND, UH, LATE, LATE SUMMER, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS, WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE, UH, THAT MAKE READY TO WORK ON THAT PROJECT AND ACTUALLY IN, UH, APRIL. AND WE WILL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION ON THAT OWN, THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND THE MOB AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IN JULY. SO LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S WELL UNDERSTOOD. AND, AND IN THE INSTANCE OF TIMING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE ED ICU. WE ARE JUST SO COMPROMISED WITH DELIVERY CARE TO OUR COMMUNITY, WITH THE CURRENT, UH, ED CAPACITY. AGAIN, IT'S 22 BEDS. WE NEED TO, WE NEED THOSE 55 BEDS, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE EVERY MONTH WE DELAY RIGHT NOW, IT'S TIME MONEY. AND WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GIVING THE COMMUNITY, THE SERVICE THAT NEEDS. UM, PLUS WE HAVE OUR FINANCE, OUR BONDING FINANCE. SO WE'VE MADE COMMITMENT TO TIMELINES, UH, ON THAT AS WELL. [02:55:01] SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET THIS MOVING ALONG. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DELAYED, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS SO FAR, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A MAKE READY, UH, AS EARLY AS NEXT MONTH, UH, TO GET THE, WE HAVE EVERYTHING LINED UP TO GET THESE, THIS SUNSET PARKING LOT, UH, MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOB AND THE PARKING STRUCTURE. SO WE ARE ON A CRITICAL TIMELINE AND WE CAN STILL AFFORD ANY FURTHER DELAYS AS BETWEEN THE COVID PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND WE'RE READY TO MOVE. SO WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET AN EXPEDITED APPROVAL AS BEST WE COULD SURE. HANG MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THERE'S, UH, A MOTION THAT'S BEEN MADE. AND THERE'S BEEN A SECOND FOR CLARIFICATION. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THE MAKER OF THE MOTION WOULD ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UM, REGARDING THE CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE, TO PARAGRAPH TWO AND THE RESOLUTION TO SPECIFICALLY REFER TO THE, UM, UH, MITIGATION AND MONITORING REPORT. WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON OF THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION? SO JOANNE, IF, IF WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN, UM, THAT MIGHT HELP THE COMMISSIONERS. SO IT'S GOING TO BE PAGE FOUR OF THE, UH, PROPOSED RESOLUTION AND IT'S NUMBER TWO. AND THEN JOANNE, DO YOU HAVE THAT LANGUAGE AGAIN THAT YOU CAN, SO IT WOULD BE, UM, FOR TWO, IT WOULD BE THAT PURSUANT TO ALL OF EVIDENCE PRESENTED BOTH ORAL AND DOCUMENTARY, AND FURTHER BASED ON THE FINDINGS ABOVE PRECISE PLAN NUMBER 20 DASH ZERO FOUR IS APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM ATTACHED HERE TOO, AS EXHIBIT A, WHICH INCORPORATES THE APPLICABLE MITIGATION MEASURES FROM THE QUEEN OF THE VALLEY HOSPITAL SPECIFIC PLAN PROGRAM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. SO WHAT I JUST READ AS THE PROPOSED CHANGE. YEAH. AND THAT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION AS TO THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS, SUBJECT TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN AND THE, THE EIR. SO THAT'S JUST FOR CLARIFICATION OF THE RECORD. THAT'S CORRECT. THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS IN THE, IN THE INITIAL PROGRAM EIR THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE PART OF THAT MITIGATION MEASURE THAT WOULD NOT APPLY TO A ZWAN FOR THIS SPECIFIC PHASE OF THE PROJECT. SO THAT'S JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THE, THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE NOT APPLICABLE, UH, THAT HAS BEEN INDENTIFIED IN THEIR ORIGINAL PROGRAM. THE AR IS NOT, IS NOT GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR THIS CAUSE IT'S FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT APPLICABLE AT AN APPLICABLE MITIGATION MEASURE. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. UM, AND THEN DO WE HAVE A SECOND LOUIS OR DO YOU JUST NEED CLARIFICATION? SO I HAVE ONE MORE POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE CHAIRS MOTION. WHAT'S WHAT SPECIFIC, UH, QUESTIONS D OR WHAT SPECIFIC AREAS, OR ARE YOU SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONTINUANCE? UM, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE PROJECT IS A HUGE PROJECT AND, UM, BASICALLY IT'S A LOT OF DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND IF WE CAN CONTINUE THIS FOR ONE MORE SESSIONS, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THIS, BUT I DO NEED A MOTION. SO IF I'M GOING A SECOND, MR. GUTIERREZ IS WELL. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. UH, ONE, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND MOTIONS. UM, PAULINA, CAN YOU PLEASE ROLL CALL OR DO WE HAVE OTHER MOTIONS? NOPE, I THINK WE HAVE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LEWIS TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 21 DASH SIX ZERO SIX FOR COMMISSIONER PROCERA. AYE. [03:00:01] UH, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ. AYE. MISSIONER LEWIS. HI COMMISSIONER, UH, WILLIAMS, AYE, AND CHAIR HANG AYE. MOTION PASSES FIVE. THIS ACTION IS FINAL UNLESS LESS TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS. THANK YOU. UM, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS [4. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 20-15] CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 20 DASH 15 CATEGORY EXEMPTION. OH, THIS IS THE SOUTH HILLS ANIMAL HOSPITAL. UM, LOCATION IS 1424 SOUTH AZUSA AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE OPERATION OF BETTER VETERINARIAN HOSPITALS, SOUTH HILLS ANIMAL HOSPITAL. THE VETERAN HOSPITAL WILL BE LOCATED WITH AN EXISTING 2,304, FIVE SQUARE FOOT SPACE. AND, UM, SO, UM, STAFF WILL BE DOING THE REPORT. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? MARIA MACHADO WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE OUR INTERN, MARIA MACHADO'S FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UM, SO I HAVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 20 DASH 15 FOR SOUTH HILLS ANIMAL HOSPITAL. TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE SITE. THE SUBJECT SITE IS IDENTIFIED BY THAT RED BOX. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE USE OF A VETERINARY HOSPITAL WITHIN THAT UNIT. UH, THIS AREA IS ZONED AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. IT'S LOCATED IN THE SOUTH HILLS SHOPPING CENTER ON THE CORNER OF SOUTH AZUSA AVENUE AND EASTERN ROMA DRIVE. THE SURROUNDING USES ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE OVERALL LOT SIZE IS 393,366 SQUARE FEET. THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE EXISTING PROPOSED SITE MOVING ON TO THE SITE PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH THE BUILDING DIVISION TO COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIRED. ADA REGULATIONS. THE ADA PARKING THAT IS CALLED OUT ON THE PLANTS CURRENTLY REFLECTS HOW IT LOOKS PRESENTLY. THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN. THEIR MAIN ENTRANCE IS INDICATED BY THE RED ARROW THERE AT RECEPTION AND WAITING ROOM AREAS LOCATED. IT'S INDICATED WITH THE SCREEN BOX. THEY ARE PROPOSING THREE EXAM ROOMS INDICATED IN BLUE AND IN YELLOW IS THE RESTROOM. THE REST OF THE FLOOR PLAN CONTAINS GENERAL VETERINARY USES SUCH AS OR TREATMENT AREA. THE SOUTH HILLS ANIMAL HOSPITAL IS A FULL SERVICE VETERINARY HOSPITAL THAT WELCOMES BOTH EMERGENCY AND TREATMENT CASES, AS WELL AS PATIENT PET PATIENTS IN NEED OF ROUTINE CARE. THEY WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF FIVE EMPLOYEES WORKING AT ANY GIVEN TIME. THEIR BUSINESS HOURS WILL BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AND SATURDAY FROM EIGHT 30 TO 1:00 PM. AND THEY WILL BE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS. PLANNING. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2015. AND THIS DOES CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. AND, UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL COMMISSIONERS, IF NOT, WE'LL GONNA OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. AND AGAIN, I DO NOT HAVE A CARD IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IF YOU HAVE EMAIL VOICEMAIL, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS HERE ARE THE APPLICANTS HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP IN? OH, OKAY. THE APPLICANT IS NOT COMING UP. SO, UM, DOES, DO WE HAVE A CARD FOR POSING THIS PROJECT OR FOR THIS PROJECT SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ALONG PRETTY QUICKLY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, OPEN FULL COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. I'LL I'LL JUST QUICKLY COMMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD SUSPECT THAT, UH, THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT THIS HOSPITAL HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1982. UM, BASED UPON WHAT I'VE SEEN IT DOESN'T, I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY, UH, UM, OVERARCHING CONCERNS THAT I WOULD HAVE THAT THAT WOULD, UH, COMPEL ME TO, TO, UH, BE INCLINED TO DENY THIS. SO I, I WOULD, UH, I, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY JUST NEED A LARGER SITE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. UM, THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION. I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOTION TO APPROVE. I JUST WANT [03:05:01] TO SAY, UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON EXPANDING YOUR BUSINESS. AND I THINK, UH, IT'S, IT'S REMARKABLE TO SEE YOUR BUSINESS GROW LIKE THAT. AND I, AS, UH, LIKE MR. COMMISSIONER LEWIS STATED, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND, UH, I SEEN YOU GUYS FOR, FOR ARMY. I SEEN YOU GUYS, UH, THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND FOR YOU GUYS TO GROW LIKE THAT, IT'S REMARKABLE. AND HOPEFULLY YOU CONTINUE TO GROW AND ONE DAY BE A 24 HOUR CENTER. SO IF I CONGRATULATIONS. UM, OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS, PEERS, LIKE WE'RE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO ADD, AND WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE IT AND WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER LEWIS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND HERE? DO WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE? UH, WE GOT A SECOND FROM, UM, LIVIA PASSERA SO, UM, PAULINA, CAN YOU PLEASE ROLL CALL? AND WE HAVE EMOTIONS LOUIS IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VISCERA TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 21 DASH SIX ZERO TWO FIVE COMMISSIONER FOR SARAH. CAN I SHARE GUTIERREZ? I MENTIONED LEWIS. AYE. MY FUNERAL WILLIAMS. AYE, AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. FIVE-O ITS ACTION IS FINAL UNLESS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS AND CONGRATULATION. NOW WE'RE MOVING [5. SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW NO. 20-24] ON TO NON-HEARING ITEMS. WE HAVE, OH, WAIT, WE HAVE NUMBER OF NUMBER FOUR STAFF REPORT. YES. WHICH IS A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW NUMBER 20 DASH TWO FOUR CATEGORY EXEMPTION. THE APPLICANT IS ELEANOR MARIA'S RESERVE FOR SOUTH LARK ELLEN AVENUE. THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING CONVERT AN UNPERMITTED PATIO COVER INTO A 375 SQUARE FOOT FAMILY ROOM ADDITION LOCATED ON THE NORTH WEST SIDE OF THE EXISTING SINGLE STORY AND, UM, WHO WILL BE DOING THE REPORT. JOANNE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. SINCE THIS IS NOT AN NON-HEARING ITEM, THERE IS, THERE IS NO POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT OF THIS CALIBER NORMALLY WOULD NOT REQUIRE A PLANNING COMMISSION, A PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING, OR REVIEW BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ITSELF. THIS PROJECT REQUIRES SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW, WHICH IS TYPICALLY REVIEWED BY TWO PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS ON AN IT AGENDIZED SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW MEETING. THIS PROJECT WAS INITIALLY REVIEWED BY THE DESIGN REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE ON JULY 14, 2020 IN, AT THAT TIME, THE DESIGN CON DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHICH WAS BOTH WHAT'S COMPOSED OF AT THE TIME OF, UM, COMMISSIONER RED HOLDS AND COMMISSIONER HUCK HAS, AND THEY, THEY, THEY NANA MOSTLY VOTED TO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT, UM, TO NUMBER ONE, TO LOWER THE ROOF OF THE ADDITION TO MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, THE, AND NUMBER TWO, TO REMOVE THE EXISTING CON UM, CONCRETE MASONRY WALL, RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE WALL OF THE ADDITION, WHICH WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND ALSO TO, HOWEVER, AT THAT TIME, AT THAT TIME DURING THE DESIGN COMMISSION MEETING, THE APPLICANT REQUIRED, UM, THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP TO COMPLY WITH, WITH LOWERING THE HEIGHT OF THE ROUGH OF THE ADDITION. UM, SO HE, UM, SHE REQUESTED TO BE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. HOWEVER, SINCE THEN THE APPLICANT HAS EXPLORED THE POSSIBILITY OF COMPLYING WITH THIS RECOMMEND OR THIS DIRECTION BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE. HOWEVER, SHE, MS. REYES, WHICH IS THE APPLICANT STATED THAT SHE LOOKED INTO IT AND IT WOULD BE, UM, QUITE A FINANCIAL BURDEN THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CAUSE HER TO NOT, TO NOT GO THROUGH WITH THE PROJECT. UM, IF SHE HAD TO LOWER IT BECAUSE OF FINANCING, FINANCING ISSUES, THE APPLICANT DID MAKE CHANGES TO THE PLANS TO ATTEMPT TO IMPROVE THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE. SHE, THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE MASONRY WALL IN FRONT SO THAT THE ADDITION APPEARS MORE OF A PART OF THE F THE HOUSE AND THE, THE FRONT, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WOULD APPEAR MORE INVITING. SHE, SHE [03:10:01] INCLUDED A WINDOW ALONG THE FRONT ELEVATION IN THE DESIGN. UM, HOWEVER, THE, THE ROUGH OF THE ADDITION IS STILL REMAINS, UM, HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING HOUSE. IF THE PLANNING, UM, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF IS, IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THE APPLICANT IS PARTICIPATING THROUGH ZOOM. I'M SORRY, JOHN, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THIS, UM, OFF OF THE HOUSE ITSELF THAT YOU CAN PUT UP ON THE SCREEN? SHE ENDED UP HAVING CANCER, BUT HER NAME LOOKING AT THIS STREET VIEW, THIS IS THE EXISTING HOUSE. THIS IS THE PATIO IN QUESTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ENCLOSE. AND THIS IS THE, THE CMU WALL THAT THE SUB, THE PRE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE REQUESTED THAT THEY REMOVE. YOU PUT THAT UP AGAIN. I'M SORRY. YEAH. UM, THE STUFF, UM, COMMISSION OR COMMISSION HAS ANY, UM, QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF, IF NOT, I'M GOING TO REQUEST, UM, PUPPET COMMENTS, CINDY ONE FOR, FOR THE PROJECT OR AGAINST THE PROJECT. UM, ON THE PHONE EMAIL, DID WE GET ANY EMAIL? NO, NO CARDS ONCE ON THE PHONE. NO, ONE'S HAD EMAILS. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS OR ON ZOOM. OH, THE APPLICANTS DELICATES ON ZOOM. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO LET'S HEAR WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO SAY. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU. OH, HI, THERE I'M. I'M MRS. RAY. AND, UM, SO WE ARE, UH, WE'RE WOULD LIKE TO ENCLOSE OUR PATIO AND KEEP OUR EXISTING ROOF. AND WE DID AGREE MAKE, UM, ALL OF THE SUGGESTED, UM, UH, CHANGES THAT WERE, UM, PROVIDED BY THE PLANNING DIVISION. UM, WE, WE AGREED THAT, UM, ADDING, UM, THE EXTERIOR, UH, UM, WOOD TRIM AT OUR SIDING TO ENHANCE THE, THE CURB APPEAL OF THE HOME, UM, AND RUN THAT, UM, WOOD FIGHTING, UH, ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONT FACE OF THE HOUSE THAT, UM, FACES LARK ELLEN STREET. AND THAT ALONE IS GOING TO ADD ON, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR ME, BUT WE WERE WILLING TO DO THAT IF WE CAN MAINTAIN THE HEIGHT OF THE, OF THE PATIO, BECAUSE IF I HAVE TO TEAR THAT DOWN, THEN I HAVE TO HAVE IT DEMOLITION AND ALL OF THAT, UM, MATERIAL REPURCHASED AND REBUILT FROM SCRATCH. I JUST CAN'T SWING THAT, UH, FINANCIALLY WOULD JUST BE A HUGE COST FOR ME. AND THIS IS THE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FOOT, UM, UH, UH, ABOUT A FOOT ABOVE MY, THE MAIN HOUSE. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, OKAY. SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU GUYS, UH, CONSIDER WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR NEARLY A YEAR. UM, AND WE'VE HAD THREE DIFFERENT INSPECTORS HERE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS THAT HAD COME IN AND EACH ONE OF THEM HAD, UH, EXPRESSED THEIR OPINION ON THE BEST STRUCTURE AS IT IS, AND NONE OF THEM HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT, AND THESE INSPECTORS WERE PROVIDED OR COME BASED ON, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU GUYS TO, TO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE USE YOUR BEST JUDGMENT AND, AND REALLY JUST HELP US GET THROUGH THIS. [03:15:04] UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND HOPEFULLY TONIGHT WILL RESOLVE, UH, SOME OF THE, THE QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE. AND, UM, AGAIN, IS THERE, I'M SORRY, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE MS. RODRIGUEZ? UH, NO, NO, I JUST, UH, I'M JUST HOPING TO GET AN OKAY, SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED. WE'VE BEEN SITTING WITH THIS, UH, UH, PARTIAL, UM, CONSTRUCTED FOR NEARLY A YEAR, AND I'M HOPING, HOPING THAT WE CAN, UH, FIND A WAY TO GET AN APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN GET PERMITTED AND MOVE ON. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND SINCE EARLIER, WE JUMPED TO THE CONCLUSIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, ANY, ANY, UM, APPLICANTS OR ANY SPEAKERS. UM, WE STILL DON'T. SO, UM, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ELEANOR REYES? UM, WELL, I W I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LIKE EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THIS, UH, I HAVE LIVED IN THIS HOME FOR 19 YEARS, I'VE RAISED MY CHILDREN HERE. AND WHEN WE WENT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE ORIGINALLY WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, IT WAS THEIR OPINION, UH, THAT THE HOME, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR OPINION THAT, UH, I THINK HIS EXACT WORDS WERE, UH, AN EYESORE. AND I, I WAS VERY OFFENDED BECAUSE I DO TAKE PRIDE IN MY HOME. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S AN EYESORE. THERE'S PLENTY OF HOMES, OLDER HOMES IN WEST COVINA. AND AS OLD AS MY HOME, THAT TRULY ARE EYESORES, BUT WE LIVE ON A MAIN STREET, I'M ON A CORNER AND WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. AND, UM, WE LIVE A HALF A MILE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE HIGH SCHOOL IS POURING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND, UH, AND THE MANAGEMENT OF IT. AND WE WANT TO BE PART OF THAT. WE ARE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO IT, UH, WE, WE ARE PART OF THE STRUCTURE HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY. MY CHILDREN WENT TO SCHOOL HERE. THEY WENT TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL AND THEN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL AND MY HUSBAND AND I ARE 100% INVOLVED IN, IN THE BOOSTER CLUBS AND, YOU KNOW, RAISING MONEY FOR, FOR THE ORGANIZATION, FOR THE BASKETBALL ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY PLAY IN HOCKEY, ROLLER HOCKEY AT THE HOCKEY RINK. SO WE ARE VERY MUCH PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND JUST ARE LOOKING FOR A COMMUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS DECISION AS WELL WITH US, AND, AND TO LOOK UPON IT POSITIVELY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I APOLOGIZE IF, UM, ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS, UM, BEHAVE OR MAKE A STATEMENT SAYING THAT'S AN EYESORE. UM, I THOUGHT IT'S VERY CUTE WITH ALL THE PICKET FENCE AND, UM, WE WILL TRY OUR BEST TONIGHT TO HELP YOU OUT HERE. SO AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY YOU'RE WELCOME. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN FOR COMM, UM, COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS. SO, UM, JOANNE, LET ME UNDERSTAND THIS. SO THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE IS 1,058 OR SOMETHING SQUARE FEET, AND, UM, THE EXISTING HOUSE AND THE EXISTING PATIO THAT WAS BUILT, BUT NOT PERMITTED WAS UNDER FOUR SQUARE FOOT. AND THAT'S THE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CURRENTLY. UM, I'M SORRY, NOT 4,400 UNDER THREE 75. I'M SORRY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIG PROJECT, BIG HOUSES, AND I'M STILL STUCK IN THE THOUSANDS. SO WE'RE BACK TO THE HUNDREDS NOW. SO THE HOUSE ITSELF, THE EXISTING HOUSE RIGHT NOW IS 1058 SQUARE FEET. AND I'LL EXISTING PATIO. THAT WAS NOT, UM, PERMITTED AT THE TIME. YOU DON'T 19 YEARS AGO. SO IS, UM, 375 SQUARE FOOT. AND THAT 375 SQUARE FOOT IS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. IT'S SO HAPPENED TO BE BUILT MAYBE A FOOT OR TWO FOOT HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING BUILDING CURRENTLY. AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, THOUGH, WHEN I DROVE BY THE HOUSES OVER THERE, IT'S REALLY, IT SEEMS REALLY SHORT. AND THE ROOF PITCH IS REALLY LOW AS WELL. SO YOU CAN'T REALLY PUT A CENTRAL AIR IN THERE. SO AS YOU DRIVE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I DO SEE A LOT OF BIG CENTRAL AIR THAT IS ON TOP [03:20:01] OF THE ROOF FOR THE DUCKING AND EVERYTHING OUTSIDE. SO BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT ON YOUR HOUSE. I DIDN'T SEE THAT, BUT DESPITE ALL THAT, UM, I ALSO SEE THAT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A QUITE A BIG LOT. UM, HOWEVER, THE HOUSE IS SITUATED IN A QUITE UNIQUE, CENTRALLY, LOCATED LOT AS WELL. SO YOU WASTE A LOT OF LAND TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT, WHICH IS ON YOUR SIDE YARD. SO NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PLACES TO GO. HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO ADD IT, THAT SECTIONS, I HONESTLY, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. AND THE HOUSE ITSELF IT'S QUITE SMALL. AND IF THIS HELPS OUT, UH, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP OUT. SO THAT'S JUST THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE TO ADD IN, IF ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER LIKE TO PITCH, THEN I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. UM, I DID NOTICE THAT IT APPEARS YOU HAVE WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A REVERSE CORNER, LOT, THAT YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS LEADING FROM LARK, ELLEN, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER STREET THAT CROSSES. AND I NOTICED THAT WERE THE PATIO WAS LOCATED. IT IS HIGHLY VISIBLE. AND I HAVE TO ADMIT IN SEEING THE OTHER HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO FORTH. UM, I DID NOT SEE, UH, ADDITIONS OF THAT NATURE. AND IN LOOKING AT THE HANDOUT THAT THE CITY WAS GOING BY WHEN HE CAME TO RESIDENTIAL ADDITIONS, THEY ARE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN A PATIO COVER. AND I ADMIT, I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT YOUR CONTRACTOR, UM, DID NOT DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE YEAH, ORDINARILY SOMEONE IS DOING AN ADDITION. UM, IT IS NORMALLY EXPECTED THAT THE HOUSE, THE MAIN HOUSE WOULD DETERMINE THE ACTUAL HEIGHT OR THE HIGHEST POINT, OR AT LEAST ANY OTHER ADDITIONS SHOULD MATCH THAT HIGH. AND I SEE THAT THAT'S NOT BEING ACCOMPLISHED. AND ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PLANS THAT WE'RE GIVEN THE EXISTING HOUSE IS 12 FEET IN HIGH, AND THE AREA THAT'S BEING ADDED IS 14 FEET. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE CALLING OUT THAT THE ADDITION IS GOING TO HAVE A VAULTED CEILING. HOWEVER, UM, FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, IT CLEARLY LOOKS LIKE BRIGHT. THERE HAD BEEN A SEPARATE STRUCTURE, AND NOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THE ORIGINAL ROOF OF THE PATIO AND CONTINUE THE CONNECTION TO THE HOUSE. UM, AGAIN, THAT THE CONCERN THAT I SEE THERE IS, AGAIN, AS AN ADDITION, I WOULD HOPE THAT, UM, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT FOR A VALUE AS WELL AS FOR APPEARANCE, FOR JUST THE COMMON, UM, HARMONY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, WHY WE WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED. OKAY. UM, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. UH, HOLD ON. UM, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OVARY, I'M SORRY. UM, WE'RE INTO THE COMMISSIONS, UM, DISCUSSIONS. SO BRIAN COURTEOUS COMMISSIONER, BRIAN QTS IS GONNA, YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MS. REYES FOR ALL, ALL THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND, AND IF ANYONE MADE YOU FELT LIKE THAT, I'M SORRY, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, BUT, UH, DO KNOW THAT, UH, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE COMMUNITY SERVICE THAT YOU DO AND EVERYTHING YOU TOLD US TODAY. AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE COMING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE OF THE BURDEN IT'LL COST YOU TO TAKE, TAKE THAT DOWN AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THE STRUGGLES AND, AND, AND BECAUSE OF EVEN THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, AND THE STRUGGLES THAT OUR, OUR CITY, STATE AND NATION GROWING THROUGH, UH, UH, I'LL BE, I'LL BE PROUD TO SUPPORT THE MOTION TO PROCEED, BUT, UH, LATER ON, AND WHEN THAT PROCESS STARTS GREAT. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? SO WHO LIKES TO ADD ANYTHING? OKAY. IF NOT, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND? SORRY. I'M, I'M GOING TO CLOSE A COMMISSION DISCUSSION. SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT AND I BELIEVE DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LIVIA, ARPA, SARAH, UM, PAULINA, CAN YOU PLEASE, UM, WE'LL CALL PLACE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ AND A SECOND BY A COMMISSION FOR SARAH TO APPROVE SIP COMMITTEE FOR DESIGN, A REVIEWED 20 DASH 24. UM, COMMISSIONER SARAH GUTIEREZ COMMISSIONER LEWIS. NO COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. NO, UH, CHAIR HANG. AYE. [03:25:01] OKAY. MOTION PASSES THREE TO TWO. THIS ACTION IS FINAL UNLESS APPEAR TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR HEARING ITEMS. SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO, [COMMISSION REPORTS/COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS] UM, COMMISSION REPORT AND COMMENTS, COMMISSIONED REPORTS, COMMENTS, AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, UM, PAULINE AND THE STAFF HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON ACTUALLY PAULINA YES. ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, WE DO HAVE THE ELECTION FOR THE VICE CHAIR. UM, WE, OUR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR, OF THE ELECTION, UM, FOR THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WE, IT LOOKS LIKE WOULD BE FEBRUARY 23RD. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. AND, UH, AS CHAIRPERSON, I WILL POINT TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW. PHEW. I THINK I NEED A, SORRY. I NEED A CONSENSUS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT WE CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. NO, OBJECTION, OBJECTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. OKAY. AND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SHELLEY LOU WILLIAMS. YES. MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A FIRST AND WE HAVE A SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. UH, OR YOU JUST NEED A CONSENSUS AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL AND I CONSENT TO THAT AS WELL. SO, OKAY. THEN WE'LL MOVING ON AS, UM, TO A DESIGN REVIEW. SO WE DO NEED TO PICK UP TWO, UM, VOLUNTEERS AS PLANNING, COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, UM, UM, TO BE ON OUR DESIGN COMMITTEE. JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT PRIOR TO THIS ONE. AND, UM, SINCE ALL THE PLANNING, COMMISSION'S A NEW, WHAT I LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION IS, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S HOW WE CAN APPROACH IT, BUT, UM, NORMALLY WE NEED TO PLAN AND COMMISSION. WE NORMALLY PUT SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN HERE BEFORE VERSUS, AND THEN SOMEONE NEW, BUT SINCE ALL FOUR OF YOU ARE NEW, WHAT I LIKE TO SUGGEST IS THAT PERHAPS WE GET ALL BEYOND THE DESIGN COMMITTEE AND THEN WE'LL PICK ONE AND WE ROTATE EVERY OTHER, UM, EVERY OTHER MEETING, WE HAVE A NEW, UM, COMMISSIONERS ON UNTIL LIKE ONE OR TWO TIME, AND THEN WE'LL TALK, YOU GET USED TO IT. AND THEN WE PICK NEW TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS TO BE ON THE DESIGN REVIEW AS IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? I'M SORRY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE HANGING. I DON'T BELIEVE THE CODE ALLOWS FOR THAT. OKAY. WE NEED TWO MEMBERS TO BE DESIGNATED, TO BE APPOINTED BY YOU TO THE, UM, DESIGN REVIEW SUB COMMITTEE. AND THEN SOC I THINK ROTATION COULD CREATE SOME ISSUES IF, IF MATTERS, COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THERE MIGHT BE POTENTIAL BROWN ACT INDICATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO WE'RE JUST, UM, DOES ANYONE WANT TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE? I HAVE BRIAN GUTIERREZ AND, UH, NICK NUNEZ. NICK LEWIS. OKAY. SO WE HAVE TWO ON THE PLANNING, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING. THANK YOU GUYS. AND THEN YOU CAN, UH, PICK AN ALTERNATE AS WELL. OH. WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE AN ALTERNATE, BUT LIKE TO BE AN ALTERNATE. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, SHELBY. OKAY. UM, TARA, IF I MAY, YES. FOR CLARIFICATION, ALTHOUGH THERE IS, THERE IS NOT A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, DUE TO LACK OF ITEM ON FEBRUARY 9TH, THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING. CAUSE WE DO HAVE ITEMS FOR THIS, FOR THE PLANNING, PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGN REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, MOVING ON TO COMMUNITY [6. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT] DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT PAULINA WILL PRESENT. HEY, SO, UM, THE, THEY AGREED TO LEAVE THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF, WHICH IS WHAT MY MAIN CONCERN. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. I WAS MUTED. I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT I THINK THE WELCOME. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU OR NEW COMMISSIONERS AND CONTINUING TO WORK WITH OUR CHAIR, HANG, UM, OUR CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. UH, THIS IS WHERE WE [03:30:01] WOULD LET YOU KNOW OF ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FORWARDED ONTO THE CITY COUNCIL. UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS THIS EVENING TO REPORT ON OOPS, SINCE THERE IS NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO CONSIDER THIS MEETING AS ADJOURN AT 10 32. THANK YOU EVERYONE. AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.