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GOOD EVENING RESIDENTS, STAFF, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, AND, UM, I'LL GUESS FOR TONIGHT,
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UM, COME TO THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF DECEMBER EIGHT 20, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND DUE TO, UM, COVID-19, WHICH IS MARCH STARTING ON MARCH 4TH, $2, 2020, UH, GOVERNOR NUISANCE PROCLAIM, A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN CALIFORNIA.AND I BELIEVE AS OF TODAY, HE MADE, THIS IS MAYBE THE SECOND OR THE THIRD TIME THAT WE'LL CALL TO STAY AT HOME.
SO DUE TO THE ONGOING COBRA, EMERGENCY AND PURSUIT TO STATE AND LOCAL, UM, STATE AND COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTIVES, THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS WILL HAVE LIMITED SEATING AVAILABLE ON A FIRST TIME FOR SERVE BASIS FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND THE AAN PARTICIPATES IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN PERSON, ALL PERSON ATTENDING THE MEETINGS ARE REQUIRED TO WEAR A FACE MASK, COVERING AN OBSERVED SOCIAL DISTANCING PROTOCOLS.
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO WATCH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
AND IF YOU EXPERIENCE SYMPTOMS SUCH AS FEVER OR CHILLS, COUGH, SHORTNESS OF BREATH, OR DIFFICULT BREATHING FATIGUE OR SORE THROAT, THE CITY REQUESTS THAT YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING FROM HOME BY WATCHING THE MEETING LIVE VIA THE LINK SET FORTH ABOVE, AND ALSO BE MO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN LIEU OF ATTENDING THE MEETING IN PERSON MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH EMAIL OR JUST THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY TELEPHONE USING THE MESSAGE DESCRIBED ABOVE.
SO YOU CAN EITHER DO EMAILS, EMAIL THE MAN BEFORE 4:00 PM OF THE MEETING WILL ALSO BE HAVE TELEPHONE ASSESSMENT AND, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AND ADDRESSING THE, UH, COMMISSION, ANY PERSON WISHES TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA OR ON ANY OTHER MATTER WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION IS ASKED TO COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD THAT IS PROVIDED IN THE SPEAKER PODIUM AND SUBMIT THE CARD TO A PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, UH, PLANNING DIVISION STAFF MEMBER, SIT DOWN, FIND THE SPEAKER.
AND WHETHER YOU ARE SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM OR NON-AGENDA AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE TO SPEAK ON A NON-AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE HEARD DOING ORAL COMMUNICATIONS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTIONS OF THE AGENDA.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ARE LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES.
GENERALLY COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, UNLESS FURTHER TIME IS GRANTED BY THE CHAIRPERSON CHAIRPERSON MAY ALSO AT THIS AT HIS OR HER DISCRETION FOR THE LIMITS, THE TIME OF EACH SPEAKER IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THE BUSINESSES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS EFFECTIVELY CONDUCTED.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM TONIGHT, ANY TESTIMONY OR COMMENTS REGARDING MARRIAGE AT, FOR PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HEARD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT ITEM.
SO PLEASE JOIN ME WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE ALL BY PLEDGER REGIONS.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROLL CALL.
UM, SO LATER ON THIS EVENING, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THERE ARE GOING TO BE SEVEN ITEMS. ONE OF THEM ITEM THAT I LIKE TO, UM, ADDRESS IS THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT CITY THE ENTIRE CITY OF WEST COVINA, WHICH IS CITYWIDE IN THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS CONSISTS OF CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING SECTION OF THE WEST CAMINO MUNICIPAL CODE TO MODIFY STANDARDS FOR ASSESSING DRAWING UNITS.
BUT MOST CODE AMENDMENT IS EXEMPT FROM CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT SEQUEL.
SO BASICALLY IT'S AFFECTING EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN WEST COVINA.
SO PLEASE JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
UM, DUE TO THE COVID WE HAVE 280 DEATHS ALSO, SO PLEASE JOIN ME TO REMEMBER EVERYONE AND PLEASE TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND PLEASE JOIN ME WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
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PLEASE, UM, YES.HOLT'S RESIDENT COMMISSIONER HOCK HAS COMMISSIONER KENNEDY HERE.
YOU MENTIONED A RED HOLDS HERE AND CHAIR HANG.
[1. Regular meeting, November 24, 2020]
AND, BUT MOVING ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, IS THERE ANYONE, HOW MANY CHANGES TO THE MAIN DATE OF NOVEMBER 24? NONE.THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 24, 20, 20 APPROVED AS SUBMITTED, AND THEN WE'RE MOVING ON TO ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT AGENDA.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING ONE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, HMM, LET ME SEE.
[2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 20-07]
A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER.UM, IT'S 1208 SOUTH HOLLAND CROSS DRIVE, BUT, UH, I'LL BE PUTTING THIS ON HOLD OR MOVING THIS ITEM.
UM, IT WAS CONTINUED TO A DATE CERTAIN OF TODAY.
SO IF THERE ARE A, IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, UM, PEOPLE PRESENT, UM, TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM, IT'S BEST TO TAKE THEIR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
HOWEVER, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED TO A DATE UNCERTAIN BECAUSE THERE WERE CERTAIN DIRECTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, ASKED THE APPLICANT TO DO THAT WAS NOT DONE WITHIN THE GIVEN TIMEFRAME.
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR STAFF, UM, YOUR STAFF REPORT THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, WHO WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTING.
WE JUST HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT TO MAKE A MOTION JANUARY.
MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM THAT WAS SUGGESTED AND RED HAUTE.
I MEAN, DON, DON HO COMMISSIONER, DON HOLD HAS SECOND IT, SO WE'LL CALL PLEASE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RED HOLES IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLTZ.
VICE-CHAIR HOLDS SO WITHOUT, UH, UH, I SURE HOLT, UH, COMMISSIONER HOCK HAS MISSIONER HOC HAS THE MOTION BEFORE THE, UH, COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONER IS TO CONTINUE, UH, 1208 SOUTH HOLLAND CRUSHED TO A FUTURE DATE.
I, YOU MENTIONED OUR RED HOLES AND CHAIR HAIM MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
[3. CODE AMENDMENT NO. 19-06]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS, UM, THIS IS A CITY OF WEST COVINA, UM, CITYWIDE, THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT CONSISTS OF CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING SECTION.SO THE CITY OF WEST COMMUNION MUNICIPAL CODE TO MODIFY STANDARDS FOR DWELLING UNITS, THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT EQUAL AND WHO WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF CHAIR.
I WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, STARTED OFF WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFO WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THIS PROPOSED, UM, PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS.
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OKAY.ON, ON OCTOBER AND OCTOBER, 2019, GOVERNOR NEWSOME SIDE SB 13, AB 68, EIGHT, UM, AB SIX 70 AND AB EIGHT EIGHT ONE, WHICH PERTAINS TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS TO ALLOW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ON ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON ALL PROPERTIES DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL USES IN RESPONSE TO THIS, THESE BILL THAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNED, THE PLANNING COMMISSION INITIATED THE CODE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE OR AMEND THE CITY'S ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS SO THAT IT IS CONSISTENT OR TO STATE LAW ON DECEMBER 17, 2019, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN URGENCY ORDINANCE SO THAT THE CITY CAN GAIN CONTROL SOME LOCAL CONTROL PERTAINING TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN THE INTENT WAS TO ADOPT URGENCY ORDINANCE AND LATER ON, GO BACK AND REVISE THE ORDINANCE SO THAT, UH, SO THAT THE CITY CAN MAKE CHANGES ACCORDING TO COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY FROM, OR FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND THEN, UM, AFTER THE ORDINANCE, THE URGENCY ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED.
STAFF DID SEND A COPY OF THE URGENCY ORDINANCE TO THE STATE.
HOWEVER, THE STATE WAS NOT, UM, WAS NOT REVIEWING ORDINANCES FROM CITIES UNLESS THERE WERE COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND AT THAT TIME, THIS WEEK, A FEW RES A FEW RESIDENTS THAT WERE UNHAPPY WITH THE CITY'S CURRENT ORDINANCE CONTACTED THE STATE AND STAFF DID.
UM, STAFF DID SPEAK TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HOW'S, UM, COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, AND RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM THEM LAST MONTH.
AND SO THESE CHANGES TO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE ARE BASED ON COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE STATE PERTAINING TO THE CITY'S EXISTING ORDINANCE.
SO ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS DRAFT LANGUAGE ON SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
THESE CHANGES ARE, ARE CHANGES, SO THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE MADE SO THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW.
NAMELY FOR THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, THE STATE SAID THAT CITIES CAN NOT LIMIT THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
SO WE ARE REMOVING THE TWO BEDROOM LIMITS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
UM, AND ALSO THEY STATED THAT THERE IS, THERE ARE NO LIMITS ON HOW MANY SQUARE FEET, HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOT OR FEET AND 80 YOU CAN BE IF YOU'RE CONVERTING EXISTING FLOOR AREA INTO AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
IN ADDITION, ALL PROPERTIES ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE AT LEAST A ONE 800 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON, ON SITE.
UM, ANOTHER CHANGE, UM, THAT'S NOTLEY IS REGARDING RE ASSIGNING SEPARATE ADDRESSES.
OUR CURRENT CODE STATES THAT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE, ARE AN ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNITS.
AND A SEPARATE ADDRESS IS NOT ALLOWED FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
SO THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE SO THAT WE WILL, WE WILL ALLOW US A SEPARATE ADDRESS TO BE ASSIGNED TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
IT'S MAINLY SO THAT THE PER THE OCCUPANTS OF THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS ABLE TO RECEIVE MAIL BECAUSE IT IS ALLOWED TO BE RENTED OUT BY STATE LAW.
AND, BUT WE ARE STILL NOT ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE A SEPARATE UTILITY METER OR SHARED UTILITY OR, OR, AND THEY HAVE TO SHARE UTILITIES WITH THE PRIMARY USE SINCE IT IS STILL AN ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY USE.
UM, OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES ARE, WE ARE CLARIFYING THAT USE ARE ALLOWED ON ALL PROPERTIES DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL USES, AND IT, IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN PROPERTIES LIKE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AREA THAT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL, BUT DOES ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO IF IT'S DEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL USES, THEN AN ADU IS ALLOWED.
AND ACCORDING TO THE, THE CITY CANNOT REGULATE THE DESIGN OF THE ADU, WHICH MEANS THAT THEIR CURRENT CODE PERTAINING TO, TO THE WINDOWS AND DOORS BEING LOCATED AT LEAST 10
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FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE FRONT DOOR NOT BEING ALLOWED TO BE LOCATED FACING THE STREET IS NOT ALLOWED.SO THAT PORTION IS GOING TO BE STRICKEN OUT.
AND THE STATE ALSO SAID THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE PROPERTIES WITH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS TO HAVE WALLS OR FENCES.
ANOTHER, ANOTHER CHANGE IS THAT LENDERS ARE NOT REC ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO SIGN COVENANTS, JUST THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND WE ARE ALSO CLARIFYING THAT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ON THE SECOND STORY, HE REQUIRED AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT LIKE, UH, UM, OTHER TWO-STORY ADDITIONS IN ANY PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY.
ALSO 80 USER, NOT SUBJECT TO AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY ACT REQUIREMENTS WITH THIS, IT IS RECOMMENDED THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 DASH 60 63, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE ORDINANCE.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTIONS WHILE STUFF? I HAVE ONE QUESTION JUST BRIEFLY.
IT STATES THAT IS, ARE EXEMPT FROM THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY ACT REQUIREMENTS.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A FEDERAL LAW.
THE ADA AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY ACT REQUIREMENTS DO NOT APPLY TO 80 YEARS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT APPLY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
SO IF IT, IF IT DOESN'T, IF IT DOESN'T APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THEN IT'S ALSO NOT GOING TO APPLY TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FIRST BEFORE WE APPROVE LET'S.
UM, WE FIRST WE HAVE TO DON'T WE HAVE TO OPEN TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I GUESS WE JUST ASK SOME QUESTIONS FIRST.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS REGARDING THE SECOND STORY.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY CLARIFY? WE HAVE TO CLARIFY IN THE CODE OR SO IN MY CONVERSATION WITH THE STATE, OUR, UM, UH, WE, THEY STATED THAT WE ARE, IF THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS, IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WE ARE ALLOWED TO STILL REQUIRE, EDIT A DISCRETIONARY APPLICATION, WHICH IS, UH, AN ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT FOR THE CITY'S PURPOSES, MAINLY BECAUSE ALL SECOND STORY ADDITIONS TO, TO PROPERTIES REQUIRE THAT THAT SAME APPLICATION.
SO IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY SO THAT 80 USER NOT, NOT TREATED ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN AN ADDITION TO A HOUSE.
AND WE, IN ORDER TO REQUIRE THAT WE HAD, WE HAD TO SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT THAT APPLICATION IS REQUIRED.
AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE GOT IN THE SIZE 800, 800 OR SO IS THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IS THERE A MAXIMUM, THERE ARE SEVERAL MINIMUMS AND MAXIMUMS. SO, SO BASE.
SO BASICALLY IF IT'S, IF IT'S AN EXISTING AREA, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEBODY HAS A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND THEY WANT TO CONVERT THAT EXISTING HOUSE INTO AN ADU AND BUILD AND BUILD A NEW HOUSE, THEN THERE IS NO LIMITATION.
HOWEVER, IF LET'S SAY THEY HAVE AN EXISTING HOUSE AND THEY WANT TO BUILD A SEPARATE ADU STRUCTURE, THEN THAT'S DETACHED THE LIMITS.
THE LIMITATION IS 1,200 SQUARE FEET.
IF, IF, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD, UH, AN ADU THAT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH, UH, SOME OF THE STANDARDS THAT, UM, ARE THAT AS EXEMPT FROM SOME OF THE STANDARDS LISTED IN THE CODE, THEN THEY CAN BUILD UP TO 800 SQUARE FEET.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT, WHAT THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ITSELF? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I WILL, UH, SECOND VICE-CHAIR HOLTZ HIS MOTION, BUT OKAY.
BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT, LET'S OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE CARDS? SO THANK YOU.
PROGRESS OF, UM, CLARIFICATION ON THE UTILITIES.
WAS THAT NOT NECESSARILY ON DULY CREATED STANDALONE OR WAS THAT ONLY APPLYING TO EXISTING 2000 SQUARE
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FOOT HOUSE THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE CREATE A WHOLE NEW UTILITY FACE? SO THERE, THERE IS, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS PERTAINING TO UTILITIES.UM, ONE SECTION PERTAINS TO YOUR YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A, UM, A SEPARATE UTILITY.
IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO BE A PART OF EXISTING EXISTING HOUSE.
SO WHETHER IT WILL STAND ALONE OR WHETHER, YES, THE SECOND STORY, IT STILL HAS TO BE PART OF, PART OF THE EXISTING HOUSE.
AND THEN THERE IS ALSO US, UM, A SEPARATE, UM, SECTION IN THE CODE THAT PERTAINS TO UTILITY, UM, UTILITY METERS.
SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED.
UM, THE CITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO CREATE AN OUR EVENING UTILITY METER SECTIONS PENDING TO UTILITIES.
UM, ONE SECTION PERTAINS TO YOUR YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A, UM, A SEPARATE UTILITY.
IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO BE A PART OF EXISTING HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S STANDALONE OR WHETHER IT BE A SECOND STORY, IT HAS STILL HAS TO BE PART OF PART OF THE EXISTING HOUSE.
AND THERE IS ALSO US, UM, A SEPARATE, UM, SECTION IN THE CODE THAT PERTAINS TO UTILITY UTILITY METERS.
SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED.
UM, THE CITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO CREATE AN
ONE SECTION PERTAINS TO YOUR YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A SEPARATE UTILITY.
IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO BE A PART OF THE HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S STANDALONE OR YES, THAT STILL HAS TO BE A PART OF THE EXISTING.
THERE IS ALSO US, UM, A SEPARATE SECTION IN THE CODE THAT PERTAINS TO UTILITY METERS.
SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED ON THE CITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO CREATE A
IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO BE, YES.
SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A HANDLE ON THE TECHNICAL TONY METERS.
I THINK IN ANOTHER WORD IS THAT I DON'T THINK CITY CAN REQUIRE, UH, SOMEONE WHO'S DEVELOPING ADA USE TO HAVE A NEW METER, BUT IF THEY WANT TO, THEY COULD BASICALLY THE EXTRA COST.
ACTUALLY, IF I MAY SHARE, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE SEPARATE METERS.
OH, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ALLOWED.
UNDER THE ORDINANCE, THEY ARE ACCESSORY TO THE MAIN HOUSE AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE SEPARATE METERS.
NOW, IS THIS STATE CODE OR IS THIS WAS CAMINA OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY WE WOULD HAVE THAT IN THERE? THE IDEA IS THAT THEY ARE ACCESSORY TO THE DWELLING UNIT AND THEY ARE NOT SEPARATE DWELLING UNITS.
BUT THEN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PERMIT ONE, HOLD ON.
SO EARLIER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GIVING THEM THEIR ADDRESS AND NOT ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE AN ADDRESS, BUT THE STATE CAME BACK AND SAID THAT WE MUST GIVE THEM THE SECOND ADDRESS IF THEY WANT IT.
ACTUALLY, THE STATE, UM, SAID WE COULD, UM, NOT ALLOW SEPARATE ADDRESSES.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT A STAFF LEVEL, AND IT'S JUST NOT PRACTICAL.
IF I'M RENTING TO SOMEBODY THAT I GET THEIR MAIL AND HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR MAIL AND THEN GIVE IT TO MY TENANT.
SO WE, WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON THAT.
SO, UM, FROM A PRAGMATIC STANDPOINT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE THAT SEPARATE HOUSES OR SEPARATE UNITS HAVE SEPARATE ADDRESSES, BUT WE STILL WANT TO KEEP THE INTENT THAT THEY ARE ACCESSORY TO THE MAIN HOUSE.
SO OUR LOCAL CODE WILL PROHIBIT SEPARATE METERS.
IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE OF HAVING
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SEPARATE METER? WE THINK IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGE TO HAVING EVERYBODY UNDER ONE METER, BECAUSE THAT GIVES SOME INCENTIVE TO THE MAIN HOUSE TO MONITOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR ASSESSORY DWELLING UNITS.UM, THE COMMISSION IS FREE TO, UH, MAKE CHANGES, BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THEY NOT BE METERED SEPARATELY.
AND I'M SORRY, EARLIER WITH THE TECHNICAL ISSUES, ARE YOU, DO YOU WANT TO FINISH YOUR ANGIE? UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND KNOW IF WE'RE HAVE NONE OPPOSED OF LIKE, SO WE'RE JUST MOVE ON TO, SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW WE CAN OPEN, UM, COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS.
SO WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE CITY-WIDE CODE ORDINANCE? IF NOT.
UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION THEN SECOND MOTION ON A SECOND, WE CAN MARK.
BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS AND VOTE ON THIS SINCE WE'RE NOT HAVING A DISCUSSION SINCE THIS IS A PANDEMIC AND THIS IS THE SECOND, THIS IS THE FIRST THAT CALIFORNIA IS ORDERED.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE THIRD OR THE SECOND, UM, SHUT DOWN.
AND A LOT OF STAFFS ARE NOT HERE.
NOW, IF STAFF WANTS TO OPEN UP, WELL, THERE'LL BE A COST TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE WE APPROVED IT, IT'S GOING TO BE MOVED ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
I'M NOT QUITE FOLLOWING YOUR QUESTION.
I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION IS IF RESIDENTS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THIS CODE LATER ON, CAN THEY BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? ABSOLUTELY.
THERE, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER COUNCIL CHOOSES TO INITIATE A CODE AMENDMENT AT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, IT CAN BE REVISED.
SO PLANNING COMMISSIONS OR CITY COUNCILS, BUT IF UNDER THE MUNICIPAL CODE, THERE ARE ONLY TWO WAYS TO M TO START AN AMENDMENT.
AND THAT IS BY AN ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR AN ACTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CODE AMENDMENT 1906.
THE MOTION IS BY, UH, VICE-CHAIR HOLTZ.
AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RED HALTS.
UM, VICE-CHAIR HOLDS, UH, COMMISSIONER HOCK.
NO, UH, COMMISSIONER RED HOLTS AND SHARE HIM.
[Items 4 & 5]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS ON, UM, 1128 SOUTH CALIFORNIA AVENUE.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE USE OF ROOMING HOME ROAMING HOUSE WITHIN AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING ASSISTANT PLANNER.
CAMILIA MARTINEZ WILL BE PRESENTING THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU, CAMILLE AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS, UM, CUP 20 DASH OH THREE FOR A ROOMING HOUSE WITHIN AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
UH, SO FOR THIS CUP, THE LOCATION IS 1128 SOUTH CALIFORNIA AVENUE.
THE APPLICANT IS JAMES LEE FOR THE INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY.
UM, IT IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND THE LOT SIZE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS 8,204 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS, UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, THE SAME THEOLOGICAL, UM, INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY WAS, UM, GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN 1903 BACK OF APRIL OF 2019, UM, TO ALLOW THE USE OF THEIR THEOLOGICAL SCHOOL AT, UM, FIVE 40 EAST VINE AVENUE.
UH, THE APPLICANT NOW WISHES TO, UM,
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USE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF CALIFORNIA ON TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR ITS STUDENTS, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE NOW ASKING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FROM A ROOMING HOUSE FOR THE EXISTING, UM, 1,962 SQUARE FOOT, TWO STORY.SO THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE DEFINES ROOMING HOUSE AS A RESIDENCE OR A DWELLING OTHER THAN A HOTEL MOTEL OR REST HOME WHERE THEN EITHER THREE OR MORE ROOMS ARE RENTED OR HOUSING IS PROVIDED TO THREE OR MORE INDIVIDUALS UNDER THREE OR MORE SEPARATE WRITTEN OR ORAL RENTAL AGREEMENTS, LARGER AGREEMENTS LEASES, OR SUBLEASES, OR A COMBINATION THEREOF, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE OWNER AGENT OR RENTAL MANAGER RESIDES WITHIN THE RESIDENCE.
SO, UM, THE BUSINESS, OR WE CALL IT BUSINESS OPERATIONS, BUT THIS ROOMMATE HOUSE OPERATIONS WE'LL BE HAVING APPROXIMATELY, UM, EIGHT TO 10 STUDENTS WHEN THE SCHOOL YEAR IS IN SESSION.
UM, THEY, MAJORITY OF THE STUDENTS WILL BE GOING BACK TO THEIR NORMAL RESIDENTS, UM, DURING BREAKS AND THE SUMMER AND, UM, ANTICIPATED, UH, FIVE STUDENTS WOULD STAY, UM, OUT OF THE EIGHT TO 10, A CONDITION OF A PROLO HAS BEEN ADDED, UM, IN THE RESOLUTION REQUIRING ALL STUDENTS OR BE REQUIRING ALL RESIDENTS TO BE STUDENTS OR EMPLOYEES OF THE INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY AND NO OLD SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHICH IS LESS THAN 31 DAYS WILL BE ALLOWED.
SO FOR THIS, UH, ADDRESS OR FOR THIS UPP, THE EXISTING RESIDENCE IS A TWO-STORY HOME WITH A WRAPAROUND PORCH.
THE FLOOR FIRST FLOOR HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE, A FAMILY ROOM, A KITCHEN, A POWDER ROOM, A DINING AREA, AND A LIVING ROOM.
THE SECOND FLOOR HAS THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATHS AND OFFICE AND A STORAGE AREA.
UH, NO ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION IS BEING ADDED AS PART OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THE STUDENTS WILL BE LIVING WITHIN THE HOME AND WE'LL
THEREFORE, THE PARKING DEMAND FOR THE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL AREA WILL NOT BE AFFECTED.
THE EXISTING HOME HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE, AND IT ALSO HAS, UM, THREE AVAILABLE PARKING SPACES IN THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, TOTALLY END UP TO POTENTIALLY FIVE PARKING SPACES.
SHOULD THEY NEED IT? STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 DASH 23 WITH THE RESOLUTION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROJECT, I CAN ANSWER IT.
AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
DOES ANYONE HAVE, UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF CURRENTLY? I HAVE A QUESTION.
THIS IS A, THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A CUP.
DOES, DOES THE CUP HAVE A, IS IT HAVE A SUNSET DATE OR IS IT JUST, IT DOES NOT.
AND ON THE, THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T WANT A SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHICH WE DON'T ALLOW ANYWAY, RIGHT.
THE CITY, OTHER THAN SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, A NEIGHBOR I'M PLANNING, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE CONTROL THAT? SO IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THERE ARE, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU PICK A CATEGORY OF NOISE, THERE ARE CATEGORIES THAT, UH, THEY WOULD BE AGREEING TO AS PART OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT VIOLATION OR THEIR COP CORRECT POINT.
AND WHEN CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION, LET'S SAY WHAT HAPPENS TO THE, TO THE ROOMING HOUSE AT THAT POINT, THEY JUST STAY EMPTY.
UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A QUESTION TO ASK THE APPLICANT ACCORDING, I'M SORRY, IF I MAY, ACCORDING TO THE BUSINESS OPERATION PLAN, UH, THERE, THERE ARE SOME, MOST OF THE STUDENTS WILL GO BACK TO THEIR HOME TOWN.
UH, THERE ARE SOME STUDENTS THAT THAT MAY PLAN TO STAY.
SO IF THEY PLAN TO STAY, THEY ARE ABLE TO STAY BEHIND.
AND IF THERE ARE EMPTY ROOMS FROM THOSE STUDENTS THAT CHOOSE TO GO, GO BACK HOME, AND THOSE ROOMS COULD BE RENTED OUT, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RENT THEM OUT.
UM, THEY CAN ONLY THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN LIVE THERE ARE STUDENTS BASED ON THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL OR STUDENTS AND ARE, ARE ALSO, AND ALSO EMPLOYEES OF THE SCHOOL.
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THANK YOU.DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, IF NOT, WE'LL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING AND WHAT THE CANDIDATE LIKES TO COME UP? IS THE CANDIDATE HERE? WHAT CANDIDATE? UM, I MEAN THE, UM, THE APPLICANTS, I'M SORRY.
UH, SO WE ALSO HAVE SOME EYES ON ZOOM, WHAT SOUNDS OKAY.
UM, THERE ARE, UM, THERE, THERE IS AN APPLICANT PARTICIPATING THROUGH ZOOM AND ALSO ONE OF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
SO THE APPLICANTS THAT, THAT IS PRESENT, IF WE CAN HAVE HIM COME UP TO THE PODIUM, UM, UM, UH, I'M NOT THE APPLICANT, BUT I'M THE SENSITIVE FOR THE SCHOOL.
I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR, UH, OPERATIONAL FINANCE FOR THE SCHOOL.
SO, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR? UH, MY NAME IS PAUL.
UH, SO LAST YEAR, THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPROVED, UH, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR US TO OPERA USING THE, UH, CHURCH, UH, ADDRESS IS A FIVE 40 EAST BY AVENUE.
UH, SO, UH, THIS SCHOOL WAS FOUNDED IN 1982, UH, GRADUATE SCHOOL TO TRAIN, UH, THE PASTORS WORLDWIDE.
SO WE HAVE, UH, UH, MOST OF THE STUDENTS, UH, FROM, UH, AFRICA AND FROM ASIA.
SO, UH, AS THE STUFF REPO INDICATES, UH, DURING THE SCHOOL IS IN SESSION, UH, THEY WILL, UH, STATING, UH, THE, UH, THE ROOMING HOUSE.
UH, THE, IT WILL BE THE SECOND ONE.
SO THE HOUSE ITSELF AS, UH, THE ADDRESS IS, UH, 1128, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, I WOULD SAY HALF A MILE FROM THE, UH, THE SCHOOL ADDRESS, WHICH ALLOWED THEM TO USE THE BICYCLE OR JUST BY WALKING TO THE SCHOOL.
SO REALLY THERE'S A NO DEMAND FOR, UH, PARKING, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, ALL THIS SPECIFIC ADDRESS.
UH, THERE ARE ONLY TWO CARS, UH, AND, UH, THIS ADDRESS, UH, WE USE AS THE, UH, THE WOMAN'S STORM.
UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONLY FOUR STUDENTS, WE WOULD EXPECT, UH, MORE STUDENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE ARE ALL AWARE, THE PANDEMIC SITUATION AFFECTS OUR ENROLLMENT BECAUSE THE, UH, THAT, UH, UH, UH, CONCENTRATE GENERAL IN THEIR COUNTRIES WILL A WEDDING ISSUE.
UH, ANY VISA BY CA ASSURE YOU, UH, THEY'RE BEING LIVING THERE FOR SOME TIME AND THEY MAINTAIN VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STUDENTS.
UH, THEY ARE ALREADY A WELL ESTABLISHED LEADERS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES, SO THEY, UH, THEY ARE SPIRITUAL, MATURE, AND THEY ALSO KEEP VERY GOOD ETHIC, UH, IN ALL KINDS OF MANNERS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER.
AND, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, OUR, UH, SEMINARY PRESIDENT IS ALSO ON SOON AND, UH, HE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, WHERE IS THE SCHOOL YOU SAY IT'S HALF A MILE, OR WHERE IS IT? THE SCHOOL IS AT THE FIVE 40, UH, EAST OF BOND AVENUE.
UH, THE CROSS STREET OF GLENDORA AND BUYING.
IS IT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING OR IT'S A CHURCH BUILDING? UM, I THINK THE CHURCH WAS, UH, THE VERY FIRST CHURCH IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A LONG HISTORY AND THEY HAD, UH, MAYBE IN THE, UH, VERY PEAK TIME THEY HAD ABOUT A A THOUSAND OR 2000 CHURCH MEMBERS.
SO, UH, AS THE CHURCH ATTENDANCE, THEY DIMINISHED, UM, THE, UH, THE PRESBYTERY OF SAN GABRIEL, TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO WORK WITH THE SEMINARY.
SO THIS, UH, IT'S A BIG PROPERTY, UH, SO THIS PROPERTY CAN BE UTILIZED TO, TO DEVORE LOVED, UH, UH, TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY SENT, UH, THE COMMUNITY WELL, AND, UH, I ALSO WANT TO REPEAT YOU, UH, JUST RECENTLY, UM, WHEN THE PANDEMIC STARTED, WE ALSO STARTED A FULL PANTRY
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ON THAT PROPERTY.UH, HELPED ME OUT A LITTLE BIT.
HOW DOES THE SCHOOL WORK? ARE THEY LIKE A SEMESTER THEY GO TO SCHOOL OR CAN THEY COME IN AND OUT ANYTIME, OR IS IT JUST, IT STARTS IN SEPTEMBER AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S OVER IN JANUARY.
HOW DOES IT WORK? UH, THE SCHOOL LONG RUN BY A QUARTER SYSTEM, WE START, UH, THE, UH, THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER.
THEN WE END, UH, THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, WE RUN BY A QUOTA SYSTEM, UH, EACH QUARTER WE HAVE A 10 WEEKS.
SO, UM, WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT A ONE AND HALF MILES BREAK, UH, DURING THE THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS, BUT THEN WE'LL HAVE A TWO QUARTERS, UH, WINDOW AND A SPRING CLOUD THAT THOSE TWO QUARTERS ARE ONLY A WEEK APART, WHICH IS THE TOTAL LENGTH, UH, TOTAL ASSETS ABOUT 30, 30 WEEKS, 30 WEEKS.
BUT SOMETIME WE DO HAVE A SUMMER INTENSIVE CLASSES.
SO, UM, WE, BEFORE WE MOVING TO, UH, EL MONTE, UH, UH, WEST COVINA, WE WERE AT THE CITY OF EL MONTE.
UH, UH, WE USE THIS, UH, UH, THREE STORY AS A MIXED USE BUILDING.
SO AS I RECALL, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WITH THIS SCHOOL FOR LIKE 20 YEARS, WE ALWAYS HAVE STUDENTS, UH, IN THE BUILDING, BECAUSE EVEN DURING THE SUMMERTIME, UH, THE AIRFARE, THE AIR TICKET KIDS TOO EXPENSIVE.
SO THEY PROBABLY US A WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE YEARS AFTER THEY, UH, CONCLUDE THEIR, UH, EDUCATION, THEN THEY WILL GO.
AND YOU'RE AN, A STUDENT STUDENTS START LATER ON IN A YEAR, OR THEY ALL HAVE TO START AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, YOU MEAN THE STUDENT? WELL, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU SHOULD, IT STARTS IN SEPTEMBER.
SO YOU'VE GOT X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
CAN SOMEBODY ELSE START ON A PROGRAM MIDWAY? YEAH, WE DO.
WE DO, UH, ONGOING, UH, ADMISSIONS.
SO WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE STUDENTS ENROLL IN SEPTEMBER, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE A STUDENTS JOIN US, UH, IN JANUARY OR EVEN IN LABOR.
HOW BIG IS YOUR STAFF TO TEACHERS? UM, WE HAVE, UH, UH, TOTAL, UH, REGULAR EMPLOYEE, UH, UH, 12 TO 14, BUT, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF ADJUNCT FACULTY.
UH, SO WE, WE OFFER, UM, 30 TO 40, UH, CLASSES EACH QUARTER.
UH, ARE THERE STUDENTS, ARE THEY LIVING THERE NOW? OH, YEAH.
AND, UH, HOW DO THEY PAY RENT TO STAY THERE OR IS THAT PART OF THEIR, I GUESS THERE'S A TUITION TO ATTEND THE, THE SEMINARY, TH TH THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT SCHOOL.
UH, THE PLAYGROUND IS A LOT OF THEM FROM AFRICA AND ASIA.
THEY, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE TRAINED LEADERS, BUT THEY REALLY HAVE A VERY LIMITED INCOME.
SO WE, THE SCHOOL IS MORE LIKE A MISSION.
UH, UH, MISSION IS OUR TO GENERATE INCOME MORE THAN TO GENERATE, UH, INCOME FROM TUITION.
SO, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE ASK STUDENTS TO PAY FOR THE RENT, BUT THE SCHOOL, UH, UH, SUBSIDIZE A LOT FOR, UH, THE HOUSE FOR THE HOUSE, FOR THE HOUSE.
THERE'S A SCHOOL ON THE HOUSE.
AND WHAT ARE THE AGES OF THE STUDENTS? UH, THEY ARE, UH, FROM, UH, THIRTIES TO, UH, LATE FIFTIES.
SO THIS IS NOT LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
AND ALSO YOU HAVE TO LOCATION, IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT CLOSE BY EACH OTHER.
IS THAT ONE FOR WOMEN AND ONE FOR MEN? UH, WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, WE STARTED BECAUSE WE STARTED RENTING THE, UH, THE FIRST ONE, WHICH WILL BE PROBABLY THE NEXT, UH, PROJECT, UH, UH, 12, 12.
SO, UH, WHEN WE STARTED, IT WAS A MIX OF, UH, MEN AND WOMEN, BUT THEN WE'LL REALIZE, UH, BECAUSE THEY ARE FAR AWAY, THEY HAVE CULTURAL ISSUES AND THEY HAVE A, UH, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, UH, ISSUES WE, WE DID NOT EXPECT.
SO WE STARTED THIS SEPTEMBER, UH, UPON, UM, SUCCESSFULLY PURCHASED TWO HOUSES.
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SO WE SEPARATE, UH, ONE, UH, WE DESIGNATE ONE FOR MEN, ONE FOR WOMEN.DOES THE STAFF STAY IN THERE IN THESE ROOMS TOO, OR, UH, NOT FOR NOW, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS THIS UOP, UH, PROPOSE, UH, UH, IN THE FUTURE, UH, WE MAY HAVE, UH, ADJUNCT FACULTY, IF WE HAVE FACULTY FROM OVERSEAS, OR WE HAVE FACULTY WHO WON'T NEED, UH, THE, UH, HOUSING THAT PROBABLY BE AN OPTION FOR THEM.
AND YOU'RE SAYING NONE OF THEM DRIVE, UH, WELL, A FEW OF THEM.
UH, SO CURRENTLY AT THE 1128 TWO STUDENTS DRIVE AND THE, UH, AT THE OTHER HOUSE, ONE STUDENT DRIVES, BUT, UH, WE REALLY DID NOT EXPECT THEM TO DRIVE BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED THAT WE SET, SUBSIDIZE, ALLOW FOR THEIR HOUSING.
AND AS WE ARE AWARE, DRIVING IN CALIFORNIA, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY WILL COST THEM SOME MONEY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, APPARENTLY THERE IS A DEMAND BECAUSE IF THEY DO, UH, AS A CHRISTIAN LEADER, UH, THEY ATTEND THE LOCAL CHURCH SERVICES.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT FOR A PANDEMIC, THEN THE CHURCH WILL ASK THEM TO, UH, EITHER TEACH A SUNDAY SCHOOL OR LEADER WORSHIP, WHICH WILL REQUIRE THEM TO, UH, DRIVE.
BUT, UH, AS I RECALL FROM MANY YEARS, REALLY NOT MANY STUDENTS ONLY.
UM, PER AVERAGE, EACH ROOM, HOW MANY ARE YOU EXPECTING TO STAY IN ONE ROOM? UH, I'LL SAY MAXIMUM IS THREE FOR EACH ROOM.
UH, THERE, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE ROOM IS DIFFERENT.
UH, SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, AS A SINGLE HOUSE, UH, EACH HOUSE HAS ONE MASTER BATH.
CAN PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE A THREE OR EVEN FOUR IF WE USE THE BUNK BEDS, BUT THE OTHER ROOMS, UH, IS, UH, UH, THOSE, THOSE ROOMS ARE SMALL.
SO AVERAGE, WE EXPECT A THREE OR, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE THREE.
SO THE SIZE OF A 10 IS ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, THE STUDENT.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THERE.
UH, WHERE DO THEY GO AFTER THEY GRADUATE? I MEAN, WHAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH IS THERE'S A SEMINARIES THAT THEY GO TO FOR CATHOLIC CHURCH, OTHERS FOR THE FISHBOWL, OTHERS FOR THE LUTHERN, WHERE DO THEY GO BACK TO, AND, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE MISSIONARIES, UH, THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL GO BACK, MOSTLY GO BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRIES BECAUSE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE AGE, UH, THEIR THIRTIES FROM THIRTIES TO FIFTIES, WHICH MEANS BEFORE THEY COME TO THE STATES, THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR, UH, MINISTRY OR POSITION IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES.
AND WHAT, WHAT, WHERE DID THEY GO? I KNOW THEY GO BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY, BUT WHERE DID THEY GO INTO TO START TEACHING, OR THEY EITHER, UH, TEACH, UH, SOME OF THEM I TEACH AT A SEMINARY OR CHRISTIAN SCHOOL, UH, THEIR HOME COUNTRIES, OR SOME WILL SERVE IN THEIR LOCAL CHURCHES, OR THEY OPEN, UH, THEY START A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION TO HELP THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, VERY NEED, UH, NEED A, UM, COMMUNITY IN THEIR COMPANY.
WELL, IT'S NOT ONE, ONE LOCATION.
IF THEY GO OR ONE ORGANIZATION, THEY GO BACK TO, UH, NO, IT'S, UH, WE ARE, WE ARE PROTESTING.
SO WE ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE, UH, THE CATHOLIC MISSIONS AND, YEAH.
UM, IS THIS MULTI DENOMINATION? AND NOT THAT IT'S KIND OF IRRELEVANT, BUT I JUST HAD A CURIOSITY.
IDA, ARE YOU, ARE YOU PRESBYTERIAN BAPTIST? WHAT IS IT? MULTI-DENOMINATIONAL, UH, WE ARE SORRY.
WE ARE IN TODAY NOMINATE, UH, WE ARE IN THE NOMINATION NOW, SO, WHICH MEANS WE ACCEPT ANY STUDENTS, UH, FROM ANY CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION.
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UM, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE ELSE HAS NO QUESTIONS.SO WE'LL OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE ONE CARD.
AND IT'S SHIRLEY KENNAN A LONG TIME SINCE I'M SEEING MOST OF YOU.
I LIVE ABOUT OH SIX HOUSES, MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE ABOUT SIX HOUSES FROM THE, UH, 1200, BUT THE, UM, AGENDA ITEM FIVE.
UM, BUT, UH, AT FIRST, UH, WHEN I SAW THE NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER, UH, I WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE LOSING OUR
SO I TALKED TO MY NEIGHBORS AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE NEED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS.
AND SO I DID CALL, UM, JOANNE AND I TALKED WITH HER ABOUT IT.
AND THEN I DID CALL, UH, THE CHURCH OR RATHER THE SEMINARY AND SPOKE WITH ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND HE, UH, UM, UH, SHARED ME KNOW THAT WE WERE NOT LOSING OUR, OUR ONE STATUS, BUT THEN OUR NEIGHBORS BEGAN TO REALIZE THAT THE, THAT THEY, THEY DID HAVE HAD PEOPLE LIVING IN BOTH OF THE, THE HOMES FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
I THINK THE, UH, TWO HOUSES SOLD ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THEY'RE VERY, WELL-MANNERED MAINTAINED.
UH, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, JUST GOOD NEIGHBORS.
AND, UM, WE THOUGHT THAT THEY OWNED THE PROPERTY AND IT WASN'T UNTIL JUST RECENTLY.
SO, UH, THE NEIGHBORS, IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS BECOMING A ROOMING HOUSE, AS LONG AS WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, LOU LEE, UH, LOSE OUR R ONE STATUS.
UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, AND WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE BOARD MEMBER AT THE SEMINARY, HE DID TELL ME THAT THE AGES WOULD BE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR FORTIES, FIFTIES, SIXTIES, AND, UM, THAT THEY WOULD BE RETURNING TO THEIR OWN, UH, COUNTRY.
AND HE SAID, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OF THE STUDENTS THAT WILL BE COMING ARE FROM KOREA.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK SOME OF THE STUDENTS NOW ARE FROM AFRICA.
UM, THE QUESTION THAT HAS SURFACED WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, RECENTLY IS WHAT TYPE OF A DOCUMENT ARE THEY COMING TO THIS COUNTRY WITH? ARE THEY COMING WITH A VISA, A SHORT-TERM VISA? UH, IT, WE HAD A LITTLE HARD TIME, UH, UNDERSTANDING, UH, WHEN THE SEMESTER, UH, MAYBE THE FIRST YEAR, UM, WHEN THEY GO BACK HOME, IT APPEARS THAT A VISA WOULD HELP THEM MORE TO GET BACK HERE, BUT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, UH, CRITICAL THING, UH, CRITICAL, UH, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW LONG THE PROGRAM IS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL.
IF THIS IS A GRADUATE PROGRAM, IS IT JUST FOR A YEAR? AND THEN A NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE COME? UM, I NEED TO PUT MY GLASSES BACK ON.
UM, WELL THE DEGREE PROGRAM, I LOOKED AT THEIR, UM, SCHEDULE, THE STUDENT'S SCHEDULE, UM, FOR WHEN THEY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING.
AND I ALSO LOOKED AT THEIR, UM, IF ANYONE IS VERY INTERESTED, I HAD TAKEN A PICTURE OF THE HOUSES ALONG WITH THE, UM, NOTICE THE PUBLIC NOTICE.
UM, SO THEY'RE VERY, THEY'RE KEPT VERY OCCUPIED.
UM, AND, UH, DURING THE DAY THEY'RE AT THE SEMINARY, BUT THEN IN THE AFTERNOON, UH, THEY DO HAVE TO DO YARD WORK.
THEY DO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY AND I ASSUME DO THE CLEANING IN THE HOUSE AND
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EVERYTHING.UM, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE I HAD DOWN HERE.
THE BOARD MEMBER, THE BOARD MEMBER THAT I SPOKE WITH WAS JIM CONNOR.
AND, UH, SO THAT I THINK WAS ALL I NEEDED TO, UH, BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
WE ARE, UM, THE NEIGHBORS ARE VERY PLEASED AT THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM AS OUR NEIGHBORS.
BEFORE YOU LEAVE, WE'RE IN FAVOR OF IT.
SURELY BEFORE YOU LEAVE, LET ME EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VISA.
I BELIEVE THE STUDENTS ARE ON.
IS THAT FOR ME OR FOR HER? OKAY.
I BELIEVE I, UM, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VISA, UM, IN A CARL CAN COME UP AND EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU AS WELL.
YOU ALSO, TO THE NEIGHBOR, I BELIEVE THE STUDENTS, WHEN THEY COME TO SCHOOL IN THE U S THEY HAVE TO OBTAIN A VISA, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE IT'S AN F1 VISA AND IT'S ONLY GOOD IF THEY PAY TUITION AND THE SCHOOL HAVE TO ACCEPT THEM.
IF THE SCHOOL DIDN'T ACCEPT THEM, THEN THE RESELL WILL NOT BE ISSUED TO THEM.
AND NORMALLY THEY'RE GOOD FOR THE DURATION OF THE SCHOOL, BUT EVERY TERM THEY MUST PAY IT UP.
OTHERWISE IT'LL BE EXPIRED AND THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHEREVER, COME FROM, I THINK, WITHIN SO MANY MONTHS, WITHIN THREE MONTHS OR SO AFTER SCHOOL ENDS, THEY DO NEED TO GO BACK OR GET THE VISA.
WE KNEW AS FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT I WAS VOLUNTEERING FOR A PROGRAM.
AND I BELIEVE IN COLLEGES IS THE SAME.
THEY NEED SOME TYPE OF VISA IN ORDER TO GO TO COLLEGE IN THE COLLEGE, MUST ACCEPT THEM WITHOUT THEM SIGNING UP OR WITHOUT THE SCHOOL SIGNING OUT FOR THEM.
THEY CAN'T BE HERE AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND.
AND THEN WE'LL ASK CARLOS TO EXPLAIN THE VISA PROGRAM FOR, FOR, UM, THIS IS JUST THROUGH MY VOLUNTEER WORK.
I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE VISA, THERE WAS, UM, ONE LAST QUESTION AND YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME AT MY AGE.
UM, AND IT HAD TO DO WITH, WELL ANYWAY, WE WERE, WE LIKED THEM TO BE, WE, WE LIKED THEM AS OUR NEIGHBORS.
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN TO THE NEIGHBORS REGARDING THE VISA? THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE, UH, APPLICATION AND THE VISA.
UH, WE RUN FOUR PROGRAMS, THREE MASTER PROGRAM, AND ONE TACO PROGRAM.
UH, SO IN THE, UH, FOR THE MASTER PROGRAM, WE HAVE A MASTER OF ARTS IN, UH, THEOLOGICAL STUDIES, WHICH IS A TWO YEAR PROGRAM MASTER OF DIVINITY PROGRAM.
A THREE YEAR PROGRAM, AND A MASTER OF THEOLOGY IS A TWO YEAR PROGRAM.
MINISTRY USUALLY IT'S ABOUT TWO YEAR PROGRAM, UH, BUT FOR THE, UH, MASTER OF THEOLOGY AND, UH, DOCTOR OF MINISTRY PROGRAM, THOSE ARE, UH, A LITTLE HIGHER, UH, UH, WHY IS, UH, A HIGHER ACADEMIC TEACHING, UH, DEGREE.
SO, UH, THAT WILL REQUIRE THE STUDENTS WHO RIDE THE, UH, THESIS, UH, THAT MY, UH, GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE TIME TO WRITE A THESIS BECAUSE, UH, THEY GOT TO DO THE RESEARCH.
UM, AND THE DOCTOR OF MINISTRY WILL ALSO REQUIRE THEM TO WRITE A DISSERTATION.
NOW, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE VISA, UH, ALL STUDENTS COME, UH, WITH F ONE VISA, WHICH IS FOR STUDENT.
UH, SO ONCE THE VISA IS ISSUED, UH, NOW I'VE BEEN IN THIS FIELD FOR MANY YEARS.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UH, BEFORE NINE ONE, ONE, UH, THEY, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, HOMELAND SECURITY WAS OPT-IN NINE ONE ONE.
SO THEY REALLY, AFTER NINE ONE, ONE, THEY FELT THEY HAD A NO CONTROL.
IT HAPPENED BECAUSE SOME STUDENTS CAME USING A TOURIST VISA, ATTENDING A FLIGHT SCHOOL, ENDED UP CALLING NINE ONE ONE.
SO, UH, UH, EVER SINCE THEN WE HAVE HAD, UH, WE CALL THE SYSTEM CALLED A SERVICE SE BIS, WHICH WAS OUR HEADLINE PACKING, UH, MAYBE IN MARCH OR APRIL, UH, WHEN TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WANTED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
SO, UH, ONCE THE STUDENT IS HERE, AS LONG AS THE STUDENT MAINTAIN THE, UH, THE STATUS WHICH WE HAVE FOR CONTROL, BECAUSE WE,
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AS FAR AS THE STUDENT IS HERE, WE MONITOR THEIR ACADEMIC STUDIES AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY TAKE A FULL-TIME CLASSES.SO, UM, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, USUALLY THERE WILL BE HERE FOR TWO TO THREE YEARS, OR SOMETIME TWO OR YEARS, THE MAXIMUM, AND THEN THE VISA, THE F1 VISA IS ISSUES BY THE HOMELAND SECURITY.
THE VISA ACTUALLY IS ISSUED BY THE COUNSELOR GENERAL UNDER A STATE DEPARTMENT, BUT, UH, ONCE THEY ARE HERE, UH, AS LONG AS THEY ATTEND THE SCHOOL, A VISA IS GOOD, BUT IF THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY DURING THEIR SUMMER BREAK, UH, NOWADAYS UNDER, UH, CURRENT, UH, ADMINISTRATION, UH, I ACTUALLY OFTENTIMES SUGGEST THEM NOT TO TRAVEL UNTIL THEY COMPLETE THEIR STUDY, BECAUSE THERE IS CHANCE FOR THEM TO LOSE THE ENTRY TO THE STATES.
MAY I, MAY I SPEAK JUST BRIEFLY? YES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
WELL, WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL TO THE CITY FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, UM, UH, TO CONSIDER OUR APPLICATION FOR, UH, CFP FOR OUR STUDENT HOUSING, UH, APOLOGIZED FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO ATTEND THE HEARING IN PERSON, BUT I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS, UM, UH, OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE TO OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, FOR, FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
UH, REALLY, UH, WHEN WE MOVED INTO WEST COVINA, UM, TO, TO, UM, UH, CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AS A THEOLOGICAL SCHOOL, UH, WE HAD GREAT HOPES, NOT ONLY TO BE, UM, A SERVICE TO ALL THE STUDENTS WHO ARE COMING, BUT ALSO WE WERE HOPING, UH, THAT WE WILL SERVE, UH, THIS COMMUNITY AND, UH, OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
UM, A PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF WEST COVINA HAS DEMONSTRATED A GREAT EXAMPLE OF SERVING THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND, UM, CURRENTLY, UH, WITH THE PRESS PRESBYTERY, WHICH OWNS THE PROPERTY, ALSO EXTENDED THE INVITATION TO PARTNER WITH THE CHURCH BODY, FOR US TO CONTINUE TO CARRY ON, UH, THE WORK, UH, THE CHURCH HAS, HAS BEEN DOING FOR FOR MANY YEARS.
AND, UH, WE, WE ARE COMPETENT THAT WE WILL, UM, CONTINUE TO REMAIN AS GOOD NEIGHBORS, UH, TO, UH, TO, UM, MANY WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE MET SO FAR.
AND, UM, I ASSURE YOU THAT OUR STUDENTS WILL ALSO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THESE ARE MATURE LEADERS, AND, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, BY SUPPORTING THEIR EDUCATION, UH, YOU ARE ACTUALLY DOING WONDERFUL WORK FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SENT THESE PEOPLE.
UH, BUT ALSO WE HAVE THE PLANS TO, UM, SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.
I THINK THAT POOR PATRIOT PROGRAM IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF OUR DESIRE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK WE ALSO HAD A, UH, EVENT, UM, HOSTED BY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS OUR NEIGHBOR.
THEY HAD A CONCERT, UM, IN OUR, IN OUR WEST COVINA CAMPUS.
UH, SO THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF US WANTING TO REALLY, UH, WORK WITH THE CITY AND WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO, TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME ENCOURAGEMENT AND A BLESSING TO, UH, TO THE CITY.
AND, UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS, UH, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO, TO ME OR TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALREADY, UM, HAVE MET JIM CONNOR, WHO IS THE BOARD CHAIR.
UH, BUT ALSO I SENT OUT A, A LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TO, UH, TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN ON CALIFORNIA AVENUE.
AND YOU HAVE MY EMAIL ADDRESS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
AND ALSO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO BE BETTER NEIGHBORS, UH, WE'LL WORK VERY HARD TO BE SO, SO THANK YOU.
OH, UM, THIS, ANY OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT WOULD LIKES TO COME IN AND SPEAK FOR THE PROJECT IN FAVOR OF IF NONE PHLOEM, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP TO THE OPPOSING SIDE.
DO WE HAVE ANY RESIDENTS THAT SUPPOSE THIS PROJECT I WOULD LIKE TO COME UP IF NONE? UM, I GUESS THAT THERE'S NONE.
THERE'S NOTHING FOR YOU TO BE, BUT UNLESS
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YOU WANT TO COME UP AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD CARL, NO, IF NOT, THEN I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MEETING AND OPEN COMMISSION DISCUSSION.UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU OF NUMBER ONE FOR COMING FORWARD AND LETTING US KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS.
WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS GOING ON WELL, SO COMING FORWARD AND GIVING US THE INFORMATION, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, AND I WISH YOU A LOT OF LUCK.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADD? YEAH, I HAVE A FEW THINGS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THEY CAME BEFORE US LAST YEAR WITH THE CUP AND, UM, UM, UH, THE ONLY ISSUE I HAD WAS ALREADY ANSWERED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DOWNTIME, UM, IS IT GOING TO BE AN AIRBNB? SO, BUT WITH, UH, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS BE IN 30 AND 40 YEARS OLD, AIN'T GONNA BE NO CAKE PARTIES THERE.
AND, UH, UM, SO, UM, THE WALK, THOSE, THOSE ARE THE TWO HOUSES ARE THERE ON THE CORNER OF CALIFORNIA AND MORISSETTE.
AND JUST TO WALK UP TO THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCHES, A COUPLE OF BLOCKS, MAYBE A HALF MILE AT THE MOST.
SO, UM, I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY ISSUES AND I WISH YOU GUYS THE BEST OF LUCK.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING? I'M FINE WITH IT.
I LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING I'M SO GLAD THAT, UM, OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, SURELY MECHANIC, UH, BUCHANAN'S WHO COME OUT AND SUPPORTED THE, UH, THE PROJECT, WHICH IS WONDERFUL AND LIKE, UH, LIKE THEY HAVE GREAT PROGRAMS. UM, THESE ARE MASSIVE PROGRAMS. THEY'RE NOT HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR JUNIOR HIGH.
SO, UM, SO THAT'S A PLUS, UM, THEY'RE DOING THEIR MASTER PROGRAMS AND, UM, PHD PROGRAM.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.
UM, WE CAN, ANYONE WANT TO MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I LIKE TO ADD TO IT THE SECOND ITEM, NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS IDENTICAL, EXCEPT THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT HOUSE THERE.
MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THAT MOTION, UH, FOR BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND PLACE? I, IF I MAY, UM, SHARE IF THAT IS THE COMMISSION'S DIRECTION, WHICH I THINK IS APPROPRIATE, THE CHAIR SHOULD JUST OPEN THAT ITEM.
UM, GET THAT INTO THE RECORD, MAKE SURE THERE'S NOBODY SPEAKING, UM, ON THAT ITEM AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE THE ACTION, UH, SIMULTANEOUSLY.
SO WE'LL ADD ITEM NUMBER FIVE TO, UM, TO THAT ONE.
IT'D BE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 DASH 14, UH, LOCATED AT 12, 12 SOUTH CALIFORNIA AVENUE.
DO WE NEED TO DO THE, OR NO STAFF REPORT? OKAY.
ANYBODY WANTS TO DO IT? OH, OKAY.
DOES ANYONE WANTS TO HAVE A DISCUSSIONS? WE'LL HAVE A IN FAVOR OF IF NONE THEN WHO'S OPPOSED ANYONE, IF NONE, THEN WE'LL JUST ADD IT TO THE MOTION.
THE MOTION ON FOR BOTH ITEMS. OKAY.
SO FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS 20 DASH ZERO THREE AT 1128, SOUTH CALIFORNIA, AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2020 DASH 14 AT 1212 SOUTH CALIFORNIA.
AND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLTZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RED HOLTS.
AND, UM, WITHOUT I'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL, UH, VICE-CHAIR HOLDS, I MENTIONED OUR HOC AS COMMISSIONER KENNEDY, COMMISSIONER RED HOLDS AND CHAIRING THE MOTION FOR BOTH OF THOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE NEXT ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A CONDITIONAL
[6. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 20-08]
USE PERMIT AND SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW.UM, LOCATION IS 1432 SOUTH ALPINE DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE STORY.
I THOUGH IT WAS 5,946 SQUARE FOOT HOME EXCEEDING THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM.
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING AND ATTACH
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MIRANDA'S TO THE REAR OF, WITH A VIEWING DECK ON TOP AND, UM, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT, JOANNE OR CAMELIA MARTINA, BECAUSE WE'LL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS ITEM AS WELL.SO FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX, WE HAVE A NEW SINGLE STORY HOUSE EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE, WHICH IS WHY IT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THE LOT SIZE IS 19,840 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 0.4, SIX ACRES.
UM, NOT ONLY DOES IT REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IT ALSO REQUIRES A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW BECAUSE THE PROPOSALS IS VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
IT IS CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY ON ALL FOUR SIDES, UM, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, AND IT'S WITHIN AREA DISTRICT FOUR.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
I JUST HAVE IT TURNED JUST SO IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO EXPLAIN, UM, RIGHT HERE WE HAVE, UM, SOUTH ALPINE DRIVE WITH THE RED BORDER OF THE SITE.
THE GRAY IS THE DRIVEWAY, UH, GOING IN WITH THE ARROW AND A WALKWAY.
AND WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPING HERE IN GREEN, A THREE-CAR GARAGE OF 1,260 SQUARE FEET.
UH, SINGLE-STORY RESIDENCE OF 4,198 SQUARE FEET AND A PURPLE.
THEN WE HAVE THE LITTLE RED, UM, ARTICLE, I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW IT'S PRONOUNCED A PORCH AREA.
AND THEN TO THE REAR, WE HAVE THE VIEWING DECK AS WELL AS A VERANDA.
AND WE HAVE THE STAIRCASE THAT LEADS TO IT HERE IN PINK, WHICH THE LITTLE RED, IT'S A, IT'S A PORCH.
I'LL SHOW YOU AN ELEVATIONS TO EXPLAIN IT BETTER.
SO IN YELLOW, WE HAVE HERE IS THE THREE CAR GARAGE.
THEN WE HAVE THE FIVE BEDROOMS AND PURPLE AND WE HAVE FOUR BATHROOMS. AND THEN THIS LIGHT BLUE BATHROOM RIGHT HERE IN THE CORNER IS A POOL BATHROOM WITH EXTERIOR ACCESS ONLY.
AND IN GREEN WE HAVE AN OFFICE AND THEN ALSO THE VERANDA IN THE BACK, IT JUST HIGHLIGHTED.
SO IT'S EASIER TO SEE ON THE FLOOR PLAN.
WE HAVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE WITH THIS RED ARROW HERE AT THE BOTTOM, AND THEN A SECONDARY ENTRANCE LEADING INTO THE, UM, OFFICE AND THE GREEN SQUARE OFFICE PROVIDES EXTERIOR ACCESS IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO, AND FROM THE FRONT COURTYARD AREA THAT MAY GIVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE HOUSE.
HAVING TWO FRONT ENTRIES, A CONDITION OF APPROVAL HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE RESOLUTION, REQUIRING THE COURTYARD TO BE COMPLETELY ENCLOSED WITH THE THREE FOOT TALL WALL, THE REMOVAL OF ANY GATES AND EXTERIOR ACCESS TO THE COURTYARD AND THE EXTERIOR OFFICE STORE TO BE LIMITED TO A FRENCH DOOR OR A PATIO DOOR THAT IS ONLY LOCKABLE FROM THE INTERIOR AND CANNOT BE OPEN WITH THE KEY AS ALTERNATIVE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ALSO REQUIRE THAT THE PROPOSED EXTERIOR OFFICE DOORS BE REVISED OR CHANGED WINDOWS.
SHOULD YOU? YOU WISH HERE WE HAVE THE FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE WITH THIS.
UM, STONE IS THE PORTICO AND THE ROOF HEIGHTS RANGE BETWEEN 16 FEET TO 23 FEET.
IT IS STILL A SINGLE GOING TO A SINGLE STORY RESIDENCE.
THE PROPOSED HOME WILL FEATURE LARGE EXTERIOR WINDOWS, A STONE TILE FOR THE FRONT PORTICO AND THE ELDORADO STONE VENEER, UM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE BETTER IN THEIR RENDERINGS COMING UP HERE.
WE HAVE THE SIDE ELEVATION FACING THE SOUTH AND THE S THE OTHER SIDE ELEVATION FACE IN THE NORTH.
I HAVE HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, UH, THE VIEWING DECK PLATFORM, UM, JUST SO IT POPS OUT AND YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY ON THE ELEVATIONS PROPOSED REAR LARGE WINDOWS WON'T HAVE ANY PRIVACY IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS BECAUSE IT OVERLOOKS
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THE STREET DOWN THE HILL.UM, CAUSE IT IS ON TOP OF A HILLSIDE.
UM, THIS RENDERING IS ALSO PROPOSED HERE.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AS, UM, AN EXAMPLE, YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
CAN YOU USE THE POINTER TO SHOW ME WHERE THE DOOR IS FOR THE OFFICE? CAN YOU SEE MY LITTLE MOUSE RIGHT HERE? LET ME SEE IF I CAN USE THE POINTER.
SO I'M MOVING ON TO THE ANALYSIS SECTION, UM, WITH A THREE CAR GARAGE, THE MAIN RESIDENCE, THE VERANDA AND THE PORTICO.
UM, THE FDR IS GOING TO COME OUT TO 28, UM, TO 28%.
AND THE LOT COVERAGE IS GOING TO COME OUT TO 30% HERE WE HAVE AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS.
UM, WE DO DO A SURVEY OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS, AND THIS IS JUST AN IMAGE ILLUSTRATING WHICH RESIDENCES WE DID, SURVEY MEDIA.
UM, THE MAIN FLOOR AREA SHOW IS 19%.
THE MEDIAN IS AT 17 AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AT 30%.
ALTHOUGH THE PROPOSED HOME WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 51% LARGER THAN THE AVERAGE SIZE HOME WITHIN THE SURVEYED AREA.
THE HOUSE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE IS THE LARGEST HOUSE IN THE SURVEYED AREA WITH APPROXIMATELY 7,075 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA PROVIDED THAT THE PROPOSED HOME IS SINGLE STORY AND WOULD NOT BE OUT OF SCALE IN SIZE AND FLOOR AREA WITH THE ADJACENT TWO-STORY HOMES.
THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED HOUSE IS REASONABLE FOR THE SITE.
FOR SOME, WE DID MAIL OUT PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES AND WE RECEIVED TWO COMMENTS FROM THOSE, UM, ONE COMMENT, UH, ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT AND ONE LETTER RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU OR, UH, COPIES OF IT.
PLANNING IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2008 AND SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DESIGN REVIEW, 20 DASH 54.
UM, MS. WALLS WITH THE RESOLUTION, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ASK THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND SO AM I, SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY, THANK YOU.
DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH, I DO.
WELL, I'D LIKE IVY'S ON THE LINE, RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO.
I MEAN, WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM DOLORES WILSON THAT BROUGHT UP, WHICH COULD BE, UH, UH, I'D LIKE TO GET, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION.
IF SHE'S SEEN THIS AS FAR AS, OR SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT, SPEAK UP, THERE IS A DELAY IN THE BROADCAST.
SO LET ME SEE IVY ON THE LINE.
WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS HEARING HER DIONNE.
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FOR SOME REASON, UM, WE LOST AUDIO, UM, FROM IVY, BUT SHE'S WRITING ON THE CHAT.UM, PLEASE LET THE PLANNING COMMISSION KNOW THAT THE LETTER OF OPPOSITION RACES UP PRIVATE LEGAL MATTER.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY GETS INVOLVED WITH BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE LEGAL MATTER.
SO WE DON'T NEED THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT IT'S NOT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION RELEVANT TO IT.
BECAUSE IF, IF I CAN KIND OF SLIGHTLY EXPAND ON THAT BECAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY IS NOT A PARTY TO THE CITY HAS NO ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT.
IF THERE ARE ANY REMEDIES, THOSE REMEDIES WOULD BE THROUGH THE CIVIL COURTS.
SO AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED, IF IT COMPLIES WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES APPROPRIATE FINDINGS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD APPROVE THIS ITEM.
WELL, THAT'S MORE OR LESS A CIVIL THING BETWEEN THE TWO PEOPLE THAT IS CORRECT.
AND IF I MAY, UM, IN, IN THE LETTER AND OPPOSITION, THERE ARE, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO POINTS.
ONE OF THE POINT WAS BEING THE PRIVATE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS NOT WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PURVIEW.
AND ANOTHER POINT THAT THE, UH, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE LETTER IS THAT THE, THE PERSON WHO WRITE THE LIBERAL, THE LETTER BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED HOUSE IS TOO BIG.
SO THAT'S ONE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER.
IT WAS MR. WILSON ON, UPON THE, A PHONE LINE WE'VE RENTED THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
OH, YOU MEAN THE, THE LADY THAT WROTE THAT I WAS UNDER THE, FROM THE CONVERSATION, SHE WOULD NOT BE ON THE PHONE.
SO WE'RE GONNA, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, WITH THE OWNER, PLEASE COME UP IN, DISCUSS YOUR PROJECT WITH US.
I'M GLORIA AND MIGUEL ROMERO, WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, HOPEFULLY HOMEOWNERS.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF WEST PHOENIX FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, THREE CHILDREN WE HOPE OR THIS TO BE OUR DREAM HOME FOREVER HOME.
OUR KIDS ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE OUR HOMEWORK AND WE FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING BE IN ORDER AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, UH, ARE YOU PEOPLE WORKING ON THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT? REMODELING IT NOWHERE? NOT BECAUSE YOU LOOK FAMILIAR TO ME.
I KNOW ACTUALLY THAT OVER POTTER THAT LIVES IN THE PROPERTY WAS DIVIDED.
I DIDN'T, AND WE TOOK A DUB THE LOT AND SOMEBODY PURCHASED A HUNDRED LOOK FAMILIAR.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE WORKING ON IT.
I COULD SEE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT? DID YOU JUST, DID SHE DID TWO PEOPLE ON THE, WAS IT, WAS IT ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY OR DID BOTH NEIGHBORS OWN HALF OF IT? YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I THINK IT GOES WAY BACK AND, AND, UH, UH, UH, DELORES WAS PROBABLY PART OWNER BEFORE MR. AND MRS. WILSON AND, UH, AT THE NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE, UH, TOOK OVER IT AND THEY USE IT AS A TENNIS COURT.
SO THAT THAT'S THE ONLY LOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, HE RECENTLY DIED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, MAYBE TWO AND, UH, SOLD FEET, SOLD THE PROPERTY.
AND THE, IT WAS, IT WAS A ONE OWNER, BUT, UH, DIVIDED IT AS TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES.
THEY WANTED TO SELL OUR PROPERTY AND THE HOUSE SIX STORE TOGETHER, BUT THEY DECIDED TO SEPARATE THE TWO WE BOUGHT A LOT AND SOMEBODY ELSE PURCHASED THE HOUSE.
THAT'S THE ONE WE OWN WITH THE TENNIS COURTS.
IS THAT A TOUCH? THE ORIGINAL LOT? WAS IT ATTACHED TO THE RIGHT HAND OR THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE, IT'S NOT EVEN ATTACHED? I MEAN, NOT ATTACHED, BUT, UM, IS IT NEXT TO SEPARATE AND THE RIGHT HAND OR THE LEFT HAND? I HOPE THAT THE
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LEFT.SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S JUST A BARBED WIRE FENCE IN FRONT OF ME.
WELL, NOT BALLPARK, THERE'S A TENNIS COURT ON THERE.
UH, I DROVE BY THE, THE ADDRESS.
THERE'S JUST LIKE A, A MAILBOX OR SOMETHING OR SOMETHING THAT INDICATES THE ADDRESS, BUT THERE'S NOTHING YES.
AND THE TENNIS COURT IS ON, IS ON OUR PROPERTY OR PROPERTY? YES.
WELL, DON'T MOVE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR, OH, DEFINITELY.
I'M HAVING A LITTLE ISSUE WITH THE SEPARATE DOOR FOR THE OFFICE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT? YOU KNOW, W W WE, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE UP A LITTLE, UH, THE OFFICE SPACE AND JUST HAVE A LITTLE COURTYARD THERE TO MAYBE HAVE A CHAIR TO GO OUTSIDE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DRINK COFFEE OR, OR JUST HANG OUT ON, ON THE OUTSIDE.
UM, AND THAT WAS THE REASON TO PUT THOSE, THOSE, OR IS THERE THAT'S ON THE FRONT ELEVATION, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIKE TWO, TWO ENTRANCES TO THE, WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S A COURTYARD THAT SEPARATES IT IN THE LITTLE SIDE GATE, A LITTLE SIDE GATE THAT, THAT YOU CAN COME IN AND OUT OF, UH, IF YOU CHOOSE TO, BUT YEAH, IT'S IT IT'S UH, ARE YOU GOING TO RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF THAT? HUH? NO, MY WIFE, NO, I'M A CHIROPRACTOR, BUT NOW I WON'T BE RUNNING MY BUSINESS.
THERE'S A LITTLE COURTYARD SAYS, RIGHT.
UH, I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT IT.
HOW, HOW, UH, UH, MARRIED TO THAT IDEA? ARE YOU, WELL, WE WOULDN'T LIKE IT, BUT IF IT'S A DEAL BREAKER, WE'LL, WE'LL CHANGE IT.
I MEAN, I MEAN, IN THE OLD DAYS BEFORE, COVID, THIS IS NOT NORMAL, BUT WITH COVID, I HAD FAMILIES THAT WORK IN THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY, AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY GO TO WORK AND COME HOME AND TRYING TO SEPARATE THE FAMILY AND YOURSELF THAT YOU MIGHT BE INFECTED OR BRING STUFF BACK HOME.
SO HAVING A DOOR OR AN OFFICE, AT LEAST YOU CAN OPEN UP AND GO IN THERE AND NOT GO TO THE FAMILY INSTEAD OF STAYING IN A TRAILER HOME.
SO I THINK, I THINK I'M OKAY WITH IT.
AND IT KIND OF BLEND IN WITH ALL THE WINDOWS.
I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A FRENCH DOOR.
IT'LL LOOK BETTER WHEN IT'S REAL.
SO I'M GONNA, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAS, UM, QUESTIONS FOR THE OWNER? IF NOT, YEAH.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
THE VERANDA IN THE BACK IS THAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK AT? THE VERANDA IS A FANCY WORD FOR AN ATTACHED PATIO.
SO WE HAVE THE, THE DOORS THAT GOOGLE, UH, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, A 20 FOOT OPENING THAT THE FOUR PANELS THAT BE GOING TO A WALL, THEY TUCK INTO THE WALL, INDOOR OUTDOOR LIVING.
SO IT JUST OPENS THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE, UH, LIVING TO THE OUTSIDE, LOCKING THE VIEWS, RIGHT? OH, NO, NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I'M TALKING IT DOESN'T, IT, IT, I'M NOT, YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT ANYBODY'S BACKYARD FROM THERE.
I BELIEVE THE BACKYARD IS LIKE A GOOD 50, A HUNDRED FOOT DOWN.
WE CAN'T EVEN SEE THE ROOFTOPS FROM, FROM THE, OF THE PROPERTY IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE SITTING DOWN.
SO IT'S ABOVE, ABOVE THE, YEAH.
SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC AND IF, UM, ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, PLEASE COME UP.
DOES ANYONE HERE OPPOSED THE PROJECT, PLEASE COME UP.
SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE, IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA OPEN COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
I HAVE A VERY GOOD FRIEND WHO LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UH,
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GREAT.AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALWAYS KEPT UP NICE AND DESIGN IT, THE HOUSE, AS I SEE IT, THERE FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE OTHER HOUSES.
AND, UH, SO I I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT.
I THINK IT'S A VERY NICE HOUSE.
I HAVE THAT SAME FRIEND ACROSS THE STREET AND, UM, I WANT WANNA, EVEN WITH THIS LEGAL, UH, DOCUMENT HERE, I THINK YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE MUCH OF AN ISSUE.
AND, UM, UM, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK KNOW I WASN'T QUITE DONE YET, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL ASPECTS THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN.
WELL, UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOME.
I'M SURE IT WILL BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT AS TO WHAT IS THERE, UH, NOW AND THE LIST TO SAY THAT ALPINE AVENUE IS THE HOMES ARE GORGEOUS.
AND, UH, I HAVE THE SAME FRIEND ACROSS THE STREET AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, I LOVE THE DESIGN AND, UH, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'LL BE FINE THERE.
AND, UH, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT.
NO, I AGREED WITH, WITH, OH, GO AHEAD.
YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I JUST, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
I AGREED WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
IT FITS RIGHT INTO THE COMMUNITY OVER THERE, ON THAT STREET.
UM, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOME OVER THERE.
SO A LOT OF THE TIME, A LITTLE MODERN, A LITTLE COLONIAL, SO IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
AND, UM, ANYONE ELSE LIKES TO MAKE A MONEY, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, AND WE HAVE ONE MOTION.
ANYONE ELSE? SECOND, ALL SEC, COMMISSIONER KENNEDY A SECOND.
I'M SORRY, THE QUESTION, OR I JUST DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AS CONDITIONED, UM, IT, THEY WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME ALTERATIONS TO THEIR SITE PLAN, UM, BECAUSE OUR CONDITIONER APPROVAL STATES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE ANY GATES FOR EXTERIOR AXES.
LIKE THEY HAVE A LITTLE SMALL GATE RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN ALSO THAT IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO A FRENCH DOOR OR PATIO DOOR.
THAT'S ONLY LOCKABLE FROM THE INTERIOR AND CANNOT BE OPEN WITH THE KEY IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT CONDITION THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY ALTERNATE OPERATIONS TO IT OR CHANGES ANYONE OKAY WITH THE COMMISSION OR DO YOU, I MEAN CONDITIONS OR YOU OKAY WITH THE EXISTING PLAN RIGHT NOW? OKAY.
SO THE CONDITION WE'RE TALKING, WHICH ONE IS A NUMBER? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
BUT IF WE ARE OKAY WITH THE EXISTING CONDITION THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE CAN ALSO APPROVE IT AS IS.
THE CONDITIONER JUST BE REMOVED.
SO ANYONE ELSE HAS A MOTION? YEAH.
DAWN, YOU HAVE THE SAME MOTION.
SO WE HAVE IT AS IS, AND WE GOT A MOTION FROM, OH, AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM KENNEDY, SO WE'RE OKAY.
UH, THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 DASH ZERO EIGHT.
UM, COMMISSIONER HERC, EXCUSE ME.
MISSIONER RED HOLES AND CHAIR.
[7. PRECISE PLAN NO. 20-07]
SIX, WHICH IS, UM, JOLLY B ON ONE 47 NORTH BARRANCA.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PRECISE PLAN AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW
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THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 2,925 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANTS.BUT THE DRIVE THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR OUTDOOR SEATING AND WHO WILL BE PRESENTING CHAIR? I WILL BE PRESENTING THE STAFF REPORT.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, CHAIR IMPLANT.
UM, AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GO INTO, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT REGARDING THE APPLICATION AND PROJECT ITSELF.
THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH SOUTHEAST SIDE OF EASTLAND SET OF THE EASTLAND CENTER, JUST WEST OF BRANCA STREET AND NORTH OF EAST GARVEY AVENUE NORTH.
THE AREA THAT THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN IS CALLED THE CURB IN IT'S INCOME.
IT'S COMPRISED WITH THREE RESTAURANT BUILDINGS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
IN 2003, HE APPLICATION IS OR A PRECISE PLAN FOR THE SITE DEVELOPMENT AND ARCHITECTURE OF THE PROJECT.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT IS FOR THE OUTDOOR DINING.
THE PROPOSED THE PROJECT WILL DEMOLISH AN EXISTING KOREAN BARBECUE RESTAURANT, WHICH IS RIGHT ALONG THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, WHERE I'M POINTING THE ARROW AT ON THE PROJECTOR THAT THE PROPOSED NEW RESTAURANT, UM, WILL BE UP.
WE'LL BE OPERATING FROM 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM, AND THEY WILL HAVE 10 TO 12 EMPLOYEES AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, GO, GO OVER THE SITE PLAN.
THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT IS 2,925 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.
IT COMPLIES WITH ALL SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, PROVIDING A 30 FOOT SETBACK ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, ADJACENT TO FRANCA STREET AND AT 38 OH, SETBACK ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, ADJACENT TO WEST, UM, EAST GARVEY AVENUE, UH, NOON NORTH, THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INVOLVES TWO OUTDOOR DINING AREA.
THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN LIGHT BLUE.
ONE OUTDOOR DINING AREA IS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING AND IT, UM, IT HA IT'S PROPOSED TO HAVE TWO TABLES ON, SORRY.
UM, TWO TABLES WITH FOUR SEATS.
THE OTHER OUTDOOR DINING PATIO AREA IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE AND, UM, WOULD HAVE SIX TABLES AND 12 SEATS.
THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE WOULD WRAP AROUND THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
ALSO THE, THE SOUTH SIDE AND EXIT THROUGH THE, THE, UM, NORTHEAST OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO KEEP THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING AND ALSO SUPPLEMENTED WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO SCREEN A DRIVE-THROUGH ALONG GARVEY AVENUE, AND ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING TO SCREEN BETWEEN THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE AND THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA TO THE WEST, SO THAT THERE IS A BUFF LANDSCAPE BUFFER THERE, SO THAT THE PEOP UM, PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN OUTDOOR DINING ACTIVITIES, UM, DURING NON COVID RELATED TIMES, AND AFTER THE STAY AT HOME ORDER IS LIFTED, WILL NOT BE, WILL NOT BE, UM, SEEING THE VEHICLE QUEUED VEHICLES WHILE THEY'RE EATING THE SITE.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, UM, I GUESS THE AERIAL VIEW, AND ALSO THE EXTENDED SITE PLAN TO THE LEFT OF THE SITE IS ACCESSIBLE FROM EASTLAND CENTER DRIVE.
UM, AND THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE, UM,
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ENTRANCE TO THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE, UM, FOLLOWS THE ARROWS ON THE SITE PLAN.SO DRIVE THROUGH VEHICLES COMING FROM EASTLAND CENTER DRIVE WE'LL WE'LL DRIVE FORWARD PAST THE FIRST ROW, UM, DRIVE LANE, AND THEN GO IN FROM THE SECOND DRIVE LANE.
UM, AND THEN INTO THE DRIVE THROUGH THERE WOULD BE SIGNAGE THERE, SO THAT TOO, SO THAT VEHICLES WILL NOT BE DIRECTED AND WILL NOT BE QUEUING IN FRONT OF THE RESTAURANT, THE EXISTING RESTAURANTS ON THE SITES, UH, TRAFFIC AND DRIVE THROUGH QUEUING ANALYSIS WAS PREPARED.
AND ACCORDING, UM, TO THE DRIVE, THE QWEEN DRIVE THROUGH ANALYSIS.
AND ACCORDING TO THE SITE PLAN, THE, THE, THE, UM, THE VEHICLE Q UM, UH, FROM THE, I GUESS THE ORDER AND PICKUP LINE, UM, LANE WE'LL WE'LL HAVE SPACE FOR NINE CARS IN ACCORDING TO THE DRIVE-THROUGH QUEUING ANALYSIS THAT, UM, THAT THERE MAY BE SOME QUEUING SPILL OUTSIDE THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE DURING PEAK HOURS.
AND THEN LSS RECOMMENDS THAT EXTRA MOBILE ORDER TAKING POINTS BE, BE DONE DURING PEAK PERIODS, WHICH IS BASICALLY AN EMPLOYEE BEING OUTSIDE, HOLDING A TABLET, TAKING PEOPLE'S ORDERS, SO THAT IT'LL BE FAST SO THAT THEY CAN PREPARE THE ORDERS FASTER.
UM, A SECOND RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO, TO HAVE TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE DIRECT CUSTOMERS, UH, TO DESIGNATED SPOT PARKING SPACES OR SPOTS SO THAT IF, IF THE EMPLOYEES NEED EXTRA TIME TO GET THERE, UM, TO GET AN ORDER OUT THE WINDOW PICKUP AREA, UM, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO, RATHER THAN WAITING THERE, UM, THE VEHICLES WOULD BE ABLE TO PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE IN A DESIGNATED SPOT AND HAVE AN EMPLOYEE CAN BRING THEM THE ORDERS TO THEIR VEHICLES SO THAT THE QUEUING, UM, WILL NOT COLLECT ON THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE.
AND THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, UM, DURING PEAK HOURS TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE OUTSIDE MANAGING, MANAGING THE, THE, THE CIRCULATION, SO THAT, SO THAT SPACES WOULD NOT BE BLOCKED BY QUEUING VEHICLES AND ALSO SO THAT, UM, IT WILL NOT, VEHICLES WILL NOT BE STOPPED IN FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORING RESTAURANT BUILDINGS.
AS FAR AS PARKING IS CONCERNED, THE FLYNN CENTER HAS 3,450 PARKING SPACES.
THE CURB AREA ITSELF HAS 231 PARKING SPACES.
HOWEVER, THE PROJECT WILL ELIMINATE SIX PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE CURB AREA.
UH, BASED ON THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE, THE YOUTH ITSELF WILL REQUIRE 31 PARKING SPACES.
UM, WITH, UH, WITH THE REQUIRE 31 PARKING SPACES, THERE WOULD STILL BE 300, 3000, UM, THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACE FOR BOTH EASTLAND CENTER.
AND THE CURB ONE, 125 PARKING SPACES, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT THERE WOULD BE A SURPLUS SUR SURPLUS OF ONE 24 PARKING SPACES FOR THE EASTLAND AND 100 PARKING SPACES FOR THE CURB AREA ON THE PR PROJECTOR RIGHT NOW IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATION.
THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AS MEASURED FROM THE HIGHEST POINT TO THE LOWEST GRADE, UM, WOULD BE AT THE, UM, AREA WHERE THEY CALL IT RATHER, THEY'RE CALLING THE JOLLY BEE TOWER ON THE, ON THE SITE, ON THE SET OF PLANS, BUT IT'S AT 25 FEET, FIVE INCHES.
AND THE, BUT THE BUILDING ITSELF WOULD BE 20 FEET TO TWO INCHES.
AND THAT'S MEASURED FROM LEWIS' POINT TO THE TOP OF THE PAIR OF PITT THEY'RE.
THERE ARE, THEY ARE GOING TO BE HAVING PROPOSED ROOFTOP MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT OF THE PAIR OF PITS,
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THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT WILL, WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM OFF SITE.UM, THE, THE PARAPET WILL BE HIGHER THAN THE HEIGHT OF ANY MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF.
THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IS CONTEMPORARY.
THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IS MAINLY DRIVEN BY THE RESTAURANT'S BRANDING AND NEW CORPORATE DESIGN.
THE, THE PROPOSED MATERIALS WOULD INCLUDE, UH, LONGBOARD WOOD TILES ALONG THE SIDE, UH, DOOR TO CEILING, GLASS, WINDOWS, ALUMINUM PANELS, UM, CONCRETE PLASTER, AND STONE VENEER.
THE STONE VENEER IS MOSTLY ON THE, IS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THIS ELEVATION, HOWEVER, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OVER THAT ON THE FOLLOWING ELEVATION.
SO THE STONE VENEER WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM THIS SITE, FROM, UM, THE WEST AND EAST SIDE, RIGHT ALONG HERE.
UM, IN HERE ON THE EAST SIDE, STAFF DOES HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE MEDITERRANEAN ELEMENTS PRESENCE ON OTHER RESTAURANT BUILDING WITHIN THE CURB.
UM, AT THE VERY LEAST STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND HAS INCLUDED A CONDITION REQUIRING THE STONE VENEER BE CONTINUED ALONG, ALONG, UM, THE REAR ELEVATION, SO THAT IT'S SHOWN RIGHT ALONG HERE AS WELL.
AND ALSO TO CHANGE THE COLORS OF THE, THE COLOR OF THE WALL, UM, THE BUILDING WALL, SO THAT IT'S MORE CLOSELY MATCHES THE COLORS OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE ABOUT BROWNISH BROWNISH TONE, AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING HERE IS GRAY.
UM, HERE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SITE, THE, THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH, UM, OR THIS TO THE LEFT, THE TOP TOP LEFT, UM, IF TAKEN FROM THE STREETS ON, UM, EAST GARVEY AVENUE NORTH, AND THIS IS THE EXISTING, UM, KOREAN BARBECUE RESTAURANT BUILDING, THIS USED TO BE A ROMANO'S MACARONI GRILL BEFORE IT BECAME THE KOREAN BARBECUE.
CORRINA'S IT'S IT'S AN ITALIAN.
YES, IT WAS, IT WAS JOHNNY CORRINA'S.
AND THE, THE OTHER, THE RESTAURANT BUILDINGS ARE, THIS IS SHE PULL, UM, WETLAND, UM, RIGHT HERE.
AND IT'S THIS ONE THIS IS ALSO TAKEN FROM, FROM WHERE GARVEY EAST GARVEY AVENUE MEETS EASTLAND CENTER DRIVE IN THIS AUTOGRAPH ON THE MIDDLE TOP IS OF THE PARKING LOT WITH THE BUILDINGS ON THE BACKGROUND, LITTLE CLOSER LOOK OF THE BILL, UM, AT THE BUILDINGS ON THE PHOTOGRAPH TO THE, TO THE RIGHT, UH, CHIPOTLE LA ONO'S, HAWAIIAN BARBECUE.
AND THERE IN THIS BUILDING IS I BELIEVE ISLANDS.
AND I LOOKED AT, I WENT THROUGH THE ORIGINAL, UM, PRECISE PLAN APPLICATION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2003.
AND IT DOES, IT DOES INDICATE THAT INITIALLY WHEN, WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED AND REVIEWED BY THE FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN CITY COUNCIL, UM, THE, THE EXISTING OR THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS ALSO FOLLOWED EACH OF THE RESTAURANTS, UM, CORPORATE LOOK.
SO IT, UM, THE JOHNNY
UM, AND, AND, UH, THERE WAS, THERE WAS, UM, UH, ONO, HAWAIIAN, BARBECUE, AND ALSO ISLANDS FOLLOWED MORE OF, UH, UM, PACIFIC, UM, STYLE AND COLORS.
AND I BELIEVER CHIPOLTE LEI USED TO BE PANDA EXPRESS IN PICK UP STICKS, PICKUP STICKS.
IT WAS, IT WAS A CHINESE, UH, CHINESE RESTAURANT, UM,
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AMERICANIZED CHINESE RESTAURANT, FAST FOOD, UM, THAT ALSO FOLLOWED, UM, THE SAME CORPORATE DESIGN.THE HERE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS FOR THE OUTDOOR DINING PATIO AND TRASH ENCLOSURE.
OUTDOOR DINING PATIO WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY NINE FEET TALL, AND IT WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR, UM, LAT ROOF STYLE AND HAVE A METAL POLE, UM, POST THE, THE TRA THE PROPOSED TRASH ENCLOSURE.
UM, I THINK IF I GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, UM, IT WOULD BE LOCATED RIGHT ALONG HERE NEAR THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO THE EXISTING TRASH ENCLOSURE.
UM, IT IS ABOUT NINE FEET TALL AND WOULD ALSO, UM, BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN OF THE, THE TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT'S ALREADY ON SITE WITH THIS.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT, UM, RESOLUTIONS NUMBERS, 20 DASH 60 60 THROUGH 20 DASH 60 62, WHICH APPROVES THE PRECISE PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
DOES ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR JOANNE AND ALSO NOTE THAT WE DID RECEIVE TWO LETTERS OF, UM, SUPPORT, UH, FROM ONE FROM THE OWNERS OR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE BRANCA TOWERS ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEN ONE FROM THE, THE PROPERTY, ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF A PARCEL WITHIN THE EASTLAND WITHIN THE EASTLAND CENTER IS, IS, IS DAN RICHARDS, IS HE ON THE ZOOM LINE? UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND CHECK, UM, ANYBODY ON THE LINE.
I DON'T SEE HIM HIS NAME ON, ON THE LINE, JOLLY BEE PEOPLE.
SO TH WE DO HAVE THE, UM, JOLLIBEES THE APPLICANT'S TEAM ON PARTICIPATING VIA ZOOM MEETING.
UH, JOANNE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE DAN.
UH, HE GOES UNDER JUST DAN AND HE'S WEARING A GREEN SHIRT AND WAVING AT YOU RIGHT NOW.
LET ME GO AHEAD AND I DON'T SEE IT.
YEAH, HE, IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS ON THE LINE, THE LINE, BUT HE'S MUTED.
LET ME ASK HIM TO, LET ME OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UM, THE APPLICANT IS A ZIP AGAIN, NINA.
ADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS OF STAFF.
MY NAME'S NINA RAY WITH RSI GROUP OF THREE, ONE EIGHT SEVEN AIRWAY AVENUE, COSTA MESA, UH, REPRESENTING JOLLIBEE.
UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED ALL THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND, UM, ARE AGREEING WITH THE CONDITIONS UNLESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION LIKES THE BUILDING IS PRESENTED AND ELIMINATES THE CONDITIONS ABOUT RIPPING THE STONE AND CHANGING THE COLORS.
UH, IF THAT'S A DEAL BREAKER, WE WILL TAKE THAT CONDITION ALSO.
AND, UH, JUST AS A BACKGROUND, UM, JOLLIBEE CORPORATE, HERE'S ABOUT 44 STORES IN UNITED STATES.
AND IN 2019, THEY HAVE OPENED THEIR NORTHERN AMERICA HEADQUARTERS HERE IN WEST COVINA, ALSO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
UM, I HAVE A FEW TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE LINE, UH, THROUGH ZOOM.
SO I JUST LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM IN CASE WE NEED THEIR INPUT.
I HAVE THE GB ACRE AND JOHNNY FRANCISCO, WHO IS THE PLANNING AND DESIGN TEAM FROM JOLLIBEE.
WE ALSO HAVE JOSEPH DONI, WHO IS THE REAL ESTATE PERSON.
WE HAVE HUNTER STARKEY FROM KIMBERLY HORN, WHO IS THE CIVIL
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ENGINEER AND A VALGUS AND ARIEL FROM CHIPMAN DESIGN.SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER, IF NOT, I CAN BRING ANY OF MY TEAM MEMBERS TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND ALL THEIR SUPPORT DURING THE TIME WE HAVE FILED FOR THE APPLICATION TILL BEING HERE TONIGHT.
AND I THINK WE ARE NOT, UH, ITEMS SIX.
SO IF YOU HAD YOUR DRUTHERS, YOU WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
PRESENTED IF WE HAD A CHOICE, BUT IF IT'S A DEAL BREAKER, THEN WE WILL TAKE THE CONDITION IS NOTED IN, I THINK IT'S FIVE CHE.
WE SENT YOU AN A MESSAGE WE LOST YOU ON.
WAS THAT ALRIGHT? AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, ABOUT, I GUESS WE WERE GIVEN SOME CHOICES AS FAR AS MANAGING THE, THE DRIVE-THRU QUEUE.
THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE CUBING STUDY ABOUT THE PEAK HOURS OF A, WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE A STAFF OUTSIDE, UH, THAT WOULD BE TAKING THE ORDERS TO SPEED UP THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE.
IF THE ORDERS ARE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THEY HAVE DESIGNATED SPOTS THAT THEY CAN GO TO AND WAIT FOR THEIR ORDER WILL, UH, AND THERE WAS A THIRD RECOMMENDATION THAT JOANNE READ OUT, UH, THAT WOULD HELP THE, UH, STACKING.
AND WE ARE NOT STICKING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE RESTAURANT.
IT WOULD BE THE OTHER DRIVER VIAL, WHICH WOULD NOT BE BLOCKING ANY OF THE TRAFFIC GOING TO EITHER ISLANDS.
SHE FALSELY, AND, UH, HAWAIIAN RESTAURANTS.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOMEBODY OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WITH A, YOU KNOW, A TABLET OR SOMETHING TO TAKE THE ORDERS.
THEY DO IT AT RAISING CANES AND, YOU KNOW, AND
EVEN CHICK-FILET THOSE DRIVE-THROUGHS USE IT.
AND THOSE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
WHEREAS THEY'VE GOT LIKE 24 OR 28 CARS IN THE QUEUE SOMETIMES.
SO I THINK YOU'RE ONLY GOT UP TO NINE.
SO, BUT I THINK THE IDEA IS TO KEEP IT OFF FROM INTERFERING WITH THE OTHER.
AND ESPECIALLY WE ARE TALKED IN THE SHOPPING CENTER WHERE WE ARE NOT BLOCKING ANY DRIVE ISLES, AND THAT'S A PLUS TOO.
SO IT'S THE OLD, THE OLD OVERFLOW OR BE IN THE PARKING LOT, NOT OUT ON THE STREETS.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE ON, UM, QUESTIONS FOR THE OTHER APPLICANTS? THAT'S ON ZOOM RIGHT NOW.
UM, UM, UM, JOSEPH, DO YOU HAVE, WHAT DO YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? OH, HI, GOOD EVENING.
I JUST WANT TO SAY TO THE COMMISSION THAT, UM, BY THE WAY, I'M WATCHING YOU ON A 22ND LOOP DELAY ON VIDEO, BUT CAN SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, A CHAIRWOMAN, UH, SHEENA HANG AND COMMISSIONER DONALD HOLDS, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER GREG, UM, GLENN, AND A COMMISSIONER OR HERB RED HOLDS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
UH, IT WAS ALMOST, UH, MORE THAN A YEAR AGO WHEN I WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU, ALL OF YOU, UH, GRANTED US GRACIOUSLY THAT SIGN ON TOP OF THE BUILDING.
AND I WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE HERE AGAIN TO FULFILL A PROMISE THAT WE MADE TO YOU LAST, UH, LAST YEAR, THAT WHEN YOU ASKED ME PERSONALLY, UH, JOSEPH IS JOLLY BEE GOING TO BRING A, UH, ACTUAL STORE WITH FRIED CHICKEN IN WEST COVINA, BESIDES THE ONE THAT ALREADY EXISTS, THAT THE AMR AND, UH, UH, FURTHER AWAY.
SO WE, WE SAID, YES, WE WILL TRY OUR BEST TO GET ONE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.
AND WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH WITH THE HELP OF, UM, MR. DAN RICHARDS TO FIND THIS PROPERTY THAT'S LITERALLY IN FRONT OF THE CURRENT HEADQUARTERS, AND WE BELIEVE THIS WILL BRING VIBRANCY TO DISSENTER.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE TO ADDRESS ALL, UH, THE COMMISSIONER'S CONCERNS.
AND WE WILL ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE, THE PLANNING STAFF AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION AS REGARDS TO THE COMMENTS ON ITALIAN.
I, I WILL DISLIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, BEING
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A ONE QUARTER ITALIAN MYSELF AND IN THE PAST, HAVING AN ITALIAN GIRLFRIEND, THE TERM OR EX-GIRLFRIEND TO TERM, UH, ITALIAN CAN MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.AND WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW OVER THERE, UH, WOULD BE GRACIOUSLY CALLED THE ITALIAN BY SOME PEOPLE IN MILAN.
BUT, UH, UH, THE POINT BEING THAT WE STRIVE TO WHAT WE'RE STRIVING HERE IS TO CREATE THIS, THIS, UH, VIBRANT NEW SITE AND THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO ASK AGAIN, TO COMMISSION, DO A GRACIOUSLY ONCE AGAIN, GRANT US THIS CHANCE TO DO, UH, BE OF SERVICE THE WEST COVINA, AND TO BRING, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE PRIDE INTO WHAT WE WERE ALREADY, UH, UM, WHAT, WHAT WE ALREADY, UH, BRINGING IN THE CITY.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE HAVE BOTH OUR TECHNICAL TEAMS ON STANDBY, AS WELL AS MYSELF AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR GROUP TO GET MUCH CLOSER HEADQUARTERS REACH SITE.
UM, ANYONE ELSE QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER KENNEDY HAS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WHAT IS, UH, WHY IS THE COLOR GRAY A BIG DEAL IF THAT'S THEIR CORPORATE DOLLARS? WHY IS THAT AN ISSUE? I, IF THAT WAS THE MCDONALD'S THEY'D WANT THEIR YELLOW, OR THERE WAS A JACK IN THE BOX THEY'D WANT THE RED, I DON'T UNDERSTAND UNLESS IT'S, IT'S VISTA RICHARDS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AS AN ISSUE WITH IT.
I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE FOR STAFF.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY REMOVE THAT OF APPROVAL.
IF, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DESIRES, IT WAS JUST, IT WOULD JUST KIND OF BRIDGE, UM, THE EXISTING, THE PROPOSED BUILDING WITH EXISTING DESIGN.
BUT, UM, STAFF IS, UH, IS, IS OKAY WITH, WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN AS WELL.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS OKAY WITH REMOVING THAT CONDITION.
I THINK WHAT STAFF IS TRYING TO DO, WHAT JOANNE, AND THEN THE STAFF IS TRYING TO DO IS BRING US TO THE CURRENT AND EXISTING CONDITION OF THAT PLAZA.
AND IT, IT DOES HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A THEME.
LIKE, I, I NOT QUITE SURE IF IT'S A TIE IN OR WHAT, BUT THERE ARE BRICK BUILDINGS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO WE WANT TO BRIDGE THAT IN INCORPORATE AND MAKE THAT AREA SOMEWHAT LOOK SIMILAR IF WE CAN.
SO IS, UH, IS DAN RICHARDS? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU, MAN.
SO, UH, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE, UH, ON THE COLOR AND ALL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THAT CONDITION, J WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE COLOR TO BE, TO BE CHANGED ON THE BUILDING? I HAVE SOME, UH, PRETTY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT IT, ACTUALLY.
UM, COUPLE THINGS THAT I'LL SAY PRIOR TO ANSWERING THAT QUESTION, I KNOW THAT, UH, ALL OF, YOU KNOW, HOW BIG A JOLLY BEE IS, THEY ARE A MASSIVE COMPANY INTERNATIONAL AND SCALE.
UH, UH, THEIR NORTH AMERICAN HEADQUARTERS ARE LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET, THE TOP TWO FLOORS, UH, THE TOWER THERE, UH, I HAVE OVER MY CAREER, THOUSANDS OF TENANTS, UH, UH, AND, UH, VERY SELDOM DO I WORK WITH ANYBODY THAT I'VE FOUND TO BE MORE PROFESSIONAL, STRAIGHT FORWARD, UM, HONEST, UH, BEYOND, UH, MAY, UH, MEASURE ACCOMMODATING THEY'RE TERRIFIC PEOPLE.
UH, AND I SAY THAT, UM, I I'VE HAD A LOT OF TENANTS, THE CURVE, UH, JOANNE HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I APPRECIATE HER DOING THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE ESSENCE OF YOUR QUESTION AND HOW I WANT TO ANSWER IT WHEN WE, UH, BECAUSE I HAVE DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF RESTAURANT ROW KIND OF PROJECTS, THIS BEING ONE OF THEM.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THEM SUCCESSFUL IS THE UNIQUENESS OF A CORPORATE BRAND.
AND ALTHOUGH, I MEAN, WE HAVE THREE CURRENTLY, UH, VERY DISTINCT, VERY DIFFERENT TYPES OF ARCHITECTURE ISLANDS, OF COURSE, HAS THEIR ISLAND LOOK A WOOD PALM, THE, UH, VERY, UH, UH, ISLAND, THE LOOK, UH, CHIPOTLE A AND ONO ARE, UH, UH, OR TRADITIONAL LOOK THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN SHOPPING CENTERS THERE THEY'RE THERE, UM, BOTH, UM, SHARE A BUILDING.
SO THE CONSISTENCY THERE WE THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAD CREDOS,
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UM, AS OUR INITIAL TENANT THERE WHO BUILT A FANTASTIC BUILDING.I LOVE THE BUILDING, UH, BUT IT'S WILDLY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER TWO.
SO JOLLY B HAS A CORPORATE, UM, LOOK, UM, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.
THIS IS, UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO, UH, UH, JOSEPH, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I, UH, I'M GONNA SAY IT, UH, THIS IS A SHOWPIECE FOR THEM.
AND, UH, UH, THIS IS THEIR NORTH AMERICAN HEADQUARTERS.
UH, THEY WANT IT TO BE, UH, WHAT JOLLY B IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ACROSS UNITED STATES.
THEY'VE GOT A DOZEN OR SO STORES NOW, AND THEY JUST KEEP GROWING IN THE STATES 1600.
UH, SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, UH, I, I REALLY HATE TO SEE THE KRONOS BUILDING, GO TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
I LIKE IT SO MUCH, BUT, BUT I, THAT THAT'S PROGRESS THINGS CHANGE AND JOLLY.
B'S GOT A CORPORATE LOOK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.
AND SO I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT.
UH, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'VE TALKED TO MY OTHER TENANTS, BY THE WAY.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH IT AT ALL.
THEY THINK IT'S A GREAT THING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO FIRE UP THE CENTER AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD CENTER THERE, AS YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR A LONG TIME AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING.
THEY'RE EXPANDING THE TRASH ENCLOSURES, WHICH IS A GOOD THING WE NEED THAT DONE.
SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, UH, I AM ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE LOOK I RECOGNIZE IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT ALL DIFFERENT ANYWAY.
AND SO THIS IS JUST A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, UH, AND SO, UM, GOOD WITH IT.
UM, AND I WILL JUST KIND OF PUT THIS OUT THERE AS A LITTLE TEASER FOR YOU, BUT, UH, JOLLY BEE OWNS A NUMBER OF FRANCHISES AND WELL-KNOWN COFFEE BEAN.
UH, WHAT'S THE BURGER ONE, JOSEPH SMASHBURGER.
AND, UH, COFFEE BEAN, AND THEY HAVE A BAKERY, UH, AND, UH, ON A LONG-TERM BASIS.
UH, IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME TO SEE JOLLY, BE OCCUPYING OTHER SPACE WITHIN OUR CENTER.
UH, THEY, THEY ARE THE REAL DEAL THERE EXACTLY.
THERE'S A, UH, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY A HUGE FILIPINO FOLLOWING, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF BIG FOLLOWING IN GENERAL.
AND SO THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
IT'LL BE PRETTY POPULAR RESTAURANT.
YOU WILL ALLOW THEM, UH, TO, TO, UH, BUILD THEIR CORPORATE IDENTITY, UH, IN WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE THEIR CORPORATE SHOW PALACE.
UH, UH, WHEN YOU ARE IN THEIR CORPORATE BOARDROOM ON THE NINTH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, YOU LITERALLY LOOK RIGHT DOWN ON IT.
SO IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO THEM.
SO I HOPE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, GRANDPARENTS THAT REQUEST IN THEIR SUBMISSION.
THAT'S A LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE FULL FLAVOR OF HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
HEY, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CARDS.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY MORE THAN WE WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? IF NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND COMMISSIONER RED HOPE.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, WHEN I FIRST GOT THIS STAFF REPORT AND I LOOKED AT THE ELEVATIONS AND THE DRAWINGS AND ALL THAT, I WENT TO RIDE OVER TO CONDITION J IN THE REPORT.
AND I WROTE ONE WORD REMOVE BECAUSE IN THE REPORT, THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS CONTEMPORARY IN STYLE.
I, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THIS, THIS CURVE SHOPPING CENTER PREDATES MY FIRST APPEARANCE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
BY TWO YEARS, I CAME OUT HERE IN 2005, BUT I REMEMBER IN TWO, 2003, SPEAKING TO THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE CURVE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO SEE DAN RICHARDS IS STILL THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE HE DELIVERED ON WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DELIVER.
AND I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HOLD THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT, JOLLY B AND EXPECT
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THEM TO BUILD OR CHANGE THEIR LOOK, TO MATCH SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 18, 19 YEARS.AND HE MAKES A VALID POINT THAT THESE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A, SHOPE A SHOWPIECE FOR THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THAT AND I LOVE IT.
I JUST DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO ALTER THE COLOR OR REQUIRE THE, THE, THE STONE TO AROUND.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.
I WOULD APPROVE IT IN A HEARTBEAT AND REMOVE IT CONDITION.
WHEN WE WERE AT THE, UH, GRAND OPENING, I REMEMBER TALKING TO SOME OF THE OFFICERS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID IS THEY WANT TO GET A SHOWCASE STORE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE, UM, TO SHOWCASE THE, THE BUSINESS OFF.
AND I, I'VE BEEN KIND OF WONDERING LATELY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TAKING THEM SO LONG.
WELL, THEY'RE SHREWDER THAN I AM BECAUSE THEY WAITED AND GOT AN IDEAL PLACE RIGHT.
AND, UH, IT'S CORPORATE AND I APPROVE IT AND SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.
ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF WHAT I SUGGEST TO ALL? YEAH, I THINK SO.
IF I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN UPPER PARKING LOT WHERE THE MAKEUP ARM.
SO, UM, ME, I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO.
THERE'S NO SENSE OF CHANGING THE COAT.
THAT'S YOUR CORPORATE COLOR TO THE BABY, THAT'S IT? I AIN'T CHANGED IT FOR NOBODY.
SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU HERE.
I ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THAT PARTICULAR AREA, IT WAS, IT, IT WAS BUILT TO KIND OF LIKE INTO LINCOLN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SHOPPING CENTER, UM, TO SOMEWHAT LIKE TO BE LOOKING SIMILAR, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND STAFF POINT OF VIEW TO TRY TO KEEP THAT CONTINUE GOING.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS DESIGN LOOKS REALLY LOOKS REALLY, IT LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM THE EXISTING, UM, ON THE EXISTING BUILDING, IN THAT PARTICULAR CODEC OR THAT PARTICULAR SHOPPING CENTER.
SO I GUESS IF WE'RE, I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, UM, GREG COMMISSION, A WHOLE CASE HAS ANY THINGS TO ADD, IF NOT, WE CAN GO.
I FINALLY, UM, HAVE A REASON TO, UH, TO SPEAK AND HOPE I CAN BE HEARD, UH, CLEARLY SINCE I'M ON ZOOM, UM, THE, UM, NICOLE, I JUST WANT TO RE REITERATE WHAT, UH, MR. RENTALS, UM, SAID ABOUT, UM, CONDITIONED JAY, I JUST FLATLY JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT, UH, IN THE RESOLUTION, I WANT TO SEE THAT REMOVED.
I DO STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS IS A, AN ISSUE OF, UM, ADDRESSING OR A UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS REALLY IS A GOOD, UH, GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW PIECE FOR JOLLY BEE.
AND IT'S GOING TO REALLY REFLECT WELL FOR THEM TO, UM, UM, MAKE, MAKE A GOOD SHOWING OF THIS, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, IN, IN THE IMAGE THAT THEY'VE PRESENTED IN THEIR PROPOSAL.
UM, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, FLATLY IN FAVOR, REMOVING CONDITION J UM, I'M PERSONALLY REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I THINK THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, UH, WE HEARD EARLIER, IT JUST, THIS IS A KIND OF A PROMISE KEPT TO BRING THIS RESTAURANT IN AND I'M, UH, AND THANK YOU JOSEPH FOR COMING THROUGH WITH THAT.
AND I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED AND THRILLED ABOUT IT.
UM, AND I'M VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL SEEM, UM, MORE COMING FROM, UH, FROM JOLLY BEE WITH, UH, THE OTHER BRANDS.
YOU KNOW, IF I WERE TO PUT MY, UM, YOU KNOW, PLACE A, A VOTE FOR WHAT COMES NEXT AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE COFFEE BEAN AND TEA LEAF COME TO TOWN.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, THAT'S MY VOTE ON THAT.
SO LET'S JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS GOING TO PRESENT ITSELF WELL, AS A, AS A, AS A SHOWPIECE FOR JOLLY BEES, IF, IF THEY STICK TO THE DESIGN THAT THEY PROPOSE, UH, IT'S GREAT LOOKING.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S AN ISSUE OF CONTRAST OR NOT CONFORMING IN APPEARANCE TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORING DEVELOPMENTS.
YOU KNOW, LIKE MR. RANDALL SAID,
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THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUT IN QUITE SOME TIME AGO AND THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT IN, IN AND OF THEMSELVES AND IN ANY, AND EVERY OTHER ADJACENT, UH, YOU KNOW, STOREFRONT, UM, IS DIFFERENT.SO I DON'T REALLY THINK WE HAVE AN ISSUE THERE OF, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF PATTERN OF, OF CONFORMITY AND APPEARANCE.
I THINK THAT'S, DOESN'T EVEN, IT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.
SO, UM, SO I JUST STRONGLY URGE REMOVAL OF, UH, CONDITION J FROM THE RESOLUTION.
IF WE HAVE ANYTHING ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO ADD, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? LET ME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING, UH, VERY QUICKLY.
I JUST WANT TO, ONCE AGAIN, THANK JOLLY BEEF FOR CHOOSING WEST COVINA FOR THEIR NORTH AMERICAN HEADQUARTERS.
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU PUT THE, UH, NAME UP ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO PEOPLE GO ON EASTERN WEST AND KNOW THAT THAT BUILDING HAS AN IDENTITY TO IT.
AND, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CHOOSING WEST COVINA.
AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE ITEM.
ANYONE HAS A MOTION JUST MOVED MOTION TO APPROVE.
COMMISSIONER RED HOLT HAS MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND RED? CAN WE SHOW HIM, OKAY, THIS HAS THIS SECOND OF A SECOND.
SO IF HAWK HAS A CHANCE, COME ON.
SO, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, TO, OR PULL, REMOVE J TOO.
I WAS GOING TO NOTE THAT, UH, AND THAT WOULD BE TO REMOVE, UM, FROM THE PRECISE PLAN CONDITION FIVE J UM, THE BALANCE OF THE CONDITIONS WOULD REMAIN THE SAME.
WE HAVE A COMMISSION, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, RED HOLTZ, AND I BELIEVE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING THE SECOND TO A COMMISSIONER HOC HAS IF I READ THE ROOM CORRECTLY.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL DO A ROLL CALL, UH, COMMISSIONER, EXCUSE ME.
OUR MISSION ARE RED HOLES AND SHARING MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO, AND THIS ACTION IS FINAL UNLESS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 10 DAYS.
I'M ON THAT COFFEE BEAN WITH YOU, BY THE WAY, GREG.
I'M BUGGING JOSEPH RIGHT NOW ON IT, SO WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
SO WE HAVE A NON-HEARING ITEM.
ARE THERE ANY
EXCEPT FOR EIGHT, EXCEPT FOR, SO
[COMMISSION REPORTS/COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS]
WE'RE MOVING ON TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, EVERYTHING ON THAT.I MEAN, THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO, WE'RE NOT HAVING A NEXT MEETING.
NO, IT'S GOING TO BE CHRISTMAS, I THINK.
UNLIKE THANKSGIVING WEEKEND, I MEET ON THE TUESDAY.
SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK STAFF OR, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS IS A TOUGH YEAR, NEEDLESS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT OF REASONS, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU, WHEN I CALL, I GET MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND, UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH THIS STAFF AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE THIS STAFF HERE.
AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, DOING THE WORK, YOU KNOW, READING THE REPORTS AND DOING WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO, YOU KNOW, REACH A DECISION.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES A GOOD COMMISSION.
NO, WE'RE NOT UP HERE TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, YES.
SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, AND I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR AND ALL THAT TO A STAFF AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE COMMUNITY WHO'S EVER LISTENING TO US AND, UH, READY FOR ANOTHER GOOD YEAR.
I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD PROJECTS COMING TO US IN THE FIRST, FIRST QUARTER.
SO I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE THIS AND TO WATCH WEST COVINA CONTINUED TO BE A LEADER IN THIS AREA.
I WANT TO DUPLICATE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER
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OR RED HOLES, AND I WANT TO REALLY THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HELP AND ESPECIALLY TO MARK, WHO HAS TO STEP IN, UH, AND ASSUMED THE POSITION OF THE, UH, PLANNING CHAIR, IF YOU WILL, UH, WHICH WASN'T AN EASY JOB BESIDES TAKING ON HIS REGULAR ASSIGNMENT AND ALSO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UM, FOR MAKING IT EASY TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER AND, AND, UH, NO WISH ALL OF YOU, A VERY MERRY HOLIDAY AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR NEXT YEAR.SO I BLESS ALL OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU.
I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR'S.
THIS IS MOST LIKELY MY LAST BD.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
I'VE BEEN A COMMISSIONER, I THINK FOR 15 YEARS AND IT'S ACTUALLY TIME TO MOVE ON AND, UH, UM, AND I WISH EVERYBODY THE BEST OF LUCK.
I ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK MARK FOR STEPPING IN.
IT SAYS IT MUST HAVE BEEN TOUGH AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW TRANSITIONS FOR THEN THE LAST YEAR OR SO.
AND JOANNE HAS BEEN STICKING AROUND WITH THIS WHEN EVERYONE, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES FROM THE LAST YEAR OR SO, UM, AND ALL THE STAFF WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.
UM, I MISS LYDIA WHO WOULD USE TO SIT BACK HERE, BUT DUE TO COVID, SHE'S STILL WITH US, BUT UPSTAIRS SOMEWHERE.
UM, I ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, THAT ARE HERE AND THAT THIS IS A VOLUNTEER POSITION, PRETTY MUCH APPOINTED BY ALL CITY COUNCILS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO WORK WITH, UM, THEIR ITEMS IN ALSO TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
I REALLY LOVES TO THANK EVERYONE AND ALL THE RESIDENTS, ALL THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHO SERVE WITH US.
AND, UM, AND, AND THIS IS A DIFFICULT YEAR.
WE WENT FROM HAVING REGULAR SESSION MEETINGS TO LEARN HOW TO WORK WITH ZOOM.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE COMING BACK, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ZOOM BECAUSE EVEN TODAY, WE'RE NOT SURE WE'RE IN A REGULAR MEETING OR WE'RE GOING TO GO ZOOM.
SO EVERYONE STAY SAFE, HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAY AND, UM, WEAR YOUR MASK TO PROTECT EVERYBODY.
[8. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT]
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, DIRECTOR'S REPORT COMPLETELY, ALMOST FORGET ABOUT MARK.UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, ALL YOUR KIND WORDS.
UH, WE ENJOY WORKING WITH COMMISSIONERS AS WELL, AND I, I WILL GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO JOANNE.
SHE'S DONE A FABULOUS JOB IN THE FIVE OR SIX MONTHS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS ROLE.
SO I RE I REALLY WANT TO THANK HER, UM, WITH THAT.
YES, WE ARE CANCELING THE DECEMBER 22ND MEETING.
UM, SO HAPPY HOLIDAYS, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY.
SO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WILL BE ON JANUARY 12TH.
AT THIS POINT, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM, AND THAT IS A NON-HEARING ITEM DEALING WITH, UH, WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES.
SO KIND OF A CONTINUATION OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR THE SEAT AND ANY CITY
[9. CITY COUNCIL ACTION]
COUNCIL ACTIONS, NOTHING WHICH IS RELATIVE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS. UM, BUT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS HAVE, I'D BE HAPPY TO.Y YOU KNOW WHAT, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, THE PEOPLE FROM ENVISION TOYOTA SHOWED THEIR PROPOSED NEW DEALERSHIP THERE.
AND IS THAT, IS THAT BEEN SUBMITTED? ARE WE EVER GOING TO WHEN'S THAT GOING TO COME TO US? DO YOU THINK IT HAS NOT YET BEEN OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED, UM, AS OF LAST WEEK AND LAST IT HASN'T BEEN SUBMITTED, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COME TO US THEN.
UH, IT IS YOUR CORRECT, UH, COMMISSIONER RED HOLES.
THEY THEY'VE REALLY, UH, PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL, AND WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED FOR THE PROJECT TO COME IN, BUT, UM, NOTHING SUBMITTED YET.
AND SINCE THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO CONSIDER THIS MEANINGS, ADJOURN, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, ALL THE RESIDENTS AND ALL THE APPLICANTS AND ALL THE STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS GOOD EVENING, AND WE'RE ENDING AT NINE 27.